May 12, 2024 • 35 mins
Welcome to another week of Black history convo. This weeks finds are Rodney Monroe, Thaddeus Tate, Friendship 9 and Freaknik. Let's talk!
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What's going on
everybody another Thursday
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Quincey Marino got Quincey Marino
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how's everything? Same
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same you know how that go
not just music podcast we back
again to inform educate
and let them know
the importance of black
and just the importance of life
and you know how we do
and this place
I'm always talking as I told you
I'm always going to talk about something black
gotta have a black history
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I love that stuff
I love touching
putting you all on
last couple episodes man
definitely the history
government people in government roles
election is coming
yes
so it's important
so it's good to talk about these
cases so we can
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have
knowledge and also
learn that we can do and make a difference
in
our cities where we're at
it doesn't matter where you're at I'm speaking from
where we are I'm from Charlotte
Hughes from Statesville
so you know it's a big
window of opportunity
to get into these things
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and help your city please do
do something to help your city
wherever you're at it's always something to do
to improve
what we have
I'm going to kind of pick up slightly
from where we were going
I was already speaking on Harvey Begant
I
spoke on the vlows
those are
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they are very known for
being black mayors first black mayors
of city Charlotte
I want to move on and also
give props
to somebody else
scroll down to his name
his name is Rodney Monroe
Rodney Monroe
Rodney Monroe is CMPD's
first black police chief
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he made history in Charlotte
in 2008 when he became
the Charlotte McLaren Police Department's
first black police chief Monroe was
appointed after
serving as police chief in Macon
Georgia and Richmond Virginia
he's not a
Charlotte native but again
he made it happen in the city of Charlotte
after serving in the position
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for seven years Monroe retired in 2015
Monroe retired
having protected and served
for nearly 40 years
I was going to ask was he still in there you read it
he did 40
a bid in his time
well
he did 40 years in all of his time
working as an officer
in his time as a CMPD
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chief he led the force
during a period of steady crime
reduction including the lowest number
of homicides on record
which is rare
and the city of Charlotte was known
for around that
time too a lot of bills you know
but again let's
keep moving let's keep moving I got another one I'm going to
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see here
next
is
Ray
Booton
which or Booton that might be
his name Booton or Booton
or Booton I think it is
going to be Ray Booton is the Charlotte's
first black police
officer
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Ray Booton was joined
okay
they ain't going to let me read this y'all are just trying to let me be
great
Ray Booton joined what is now
known as Charlotte Mecklenburg
Police Department in 1946
after serving in World War II
Booton was one of eight black
officers who joined the force and was one
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of the first black police
officers to ever walk
the beat in Charlotte
four years after joining the police department
he left and went to become a minister
which I wanted to you know
Booton died
in 2009 we laid a long time
Booton at the age of 89
Booton was
the last surviving member
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of those original eight officers
who joined the force
so
shout out to
him as well that's all I can say
I'm sticking within these government roles
y'all hear what I'm saying
something that's dealing with the government dealing with the city
there could be forces
you know you could be a force
even in police office if that's what you
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choose to be I'm not hating on nobody because there's some good
police officers out here not all y'all
dirty not all y'all bad
but again there's another
way to get yourself into the seat of
city council and to make a change
work you know
again but
but a lot of nowadays
a lot of the good officers you know
they try to push out of
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the branch unfortunately like you know with
the biggie remember dudes trying to sign
a biggie case and
they didn't want that to be disclosed
and they kicked can't fire him
it's a lot of shadiness going on
police force and
yeah definitely
and here's another
here's another situation
that I wanted to bring up me being
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that I live in Rock Hill South Carolina
I found this out
very recently and I wanted to bring this
up
of course
as feeling
as if in like okay where what happens
in the city of Rock
Hill I mean it's not much
South Carolina can't be that much going on down there
and actually a lot of stuff has actually
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happened a lot of historical
moments have taken place
in Rock Hill South Carolina so one
of them being they
call this the friendship nine
Rock Hill city and movement
of course a lot of us are doing city
and you know along the year especially in
the 60s but on this day
on January 31st 1961 a group
of nine students was arrested
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after staging
a sit in at a segregated
lunch counter at
McCrory's Five and Dime store on Main
Street in Rock Hill South Carolina
which is about maybe
less than five minutes from my house
the friendship nine refused to
bail out of jail instead
serving 30 days of hard
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labor to draw attention to the
cause of integration look how deep that
let's thank let's pause there for
a minute would you spend
30 days in jail for the cause
of black people
would you spend 30 days
would you spend 30 days
in jail for the
cause of black people
to make things better or to make
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a point for the situation
of who black people are
back then yeah back
then yeah back then I would
now probably not cause
most black people don't even believe in it themselves
like it's sad
you know what I'm saying you have to
that's a big that's a big sacrifice
nowadays you know like definitely
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yeah back then they were more
appreciative and it was I'm not
down in the community now but
we live bro we
we know you know what I'm
saying the morals and respect
just went down yeah yeah it's all
off yeah
the group was
the first the group
was the first group of students to ever
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refused to pay bail according to
the french of nuns website
check that out
the organization says the group
decided to do this
because it was costing a hundred dollars
or more to bail African American
students out of jail after getting arrested
for sitting at white
on the counters
I got one after you finish
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the decision to be taken
to jail was done both
to make a statement
and to save civil rights groups
money the organization
says the group has
since been named the friendship
nine or friendship nine
as eight of the
nine were students at friendship
junior college so
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again shout out to
the friendship nine
I'm gonna pull those names up and
find who they were exactly
who they were because I would love
to know and I'm gonna bring that and do
we're gonna have to pull that in a homosode or something like that
maybe in a single or in a
solo however but again
um
appreciate y'all taking those stances
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man to I can't
thank a lot of y'all enough
for doing those sit ins
give us those chances to where we can go
eat in these restaurants that
you know we never probably would ever been able to eat
at if y'all didn't go take a chance and just go do
it right and mess up the whole
situation and make a point and
put a stamp on it and make it
approval to the way we talk about it in history
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these days you know it's not talked
about enough but I'm talking about it now
right so I'm gonna
bring up something man cause I know we talking
about a lot of creations and
you know uh
a lot of things and this
is part of the black to a lot of things
that uh we see
now like today
um wasn't originally planned
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how the originators
made it created it they didn't want us to use
it in the wrong ways
um I know this is very
popular right now
um I wanted to bring up
a situation to freak-nique for people
that ain't saw that
so it was an
annual spring break festival in
Atlanta Georgia it was initially
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attended by students
enrolled at historical black
colleges and universities in Atlanta
University Center it began
in 1983 as a small picnic
in a public park near the
Atlanta University Center sponsored by
the DC Metro Club for
students who could not afford to
return home for spring break
so
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I read a little bit and I watched
the documentary um they created
this and what they would do is
a lot of people would you know
sell food sell items
and they would come up with money
you know I'm saying from selling these things
and people would associate get
together have a good time music
and stuff like that um
that's how
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freak-nique came about
fast forward
it became more of a destructive
thing uh they start you know
sexual
things started
attending the whole purpose
of giving kinda
went out the window the purpose of what
it was started for and created for
um you know went out the window
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and it became more
sexual activity driven
you know what I'm saying and more
destructive than
profiting so uh
I say that to say this
um I think the
original people
the people that created these things
should come out and
voice their opinions and
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make their story more known
and maybe it'll shed
another light on things that probably
are looked at that wasn't looked at
that way in the past um
I wanna ask you
do you think original
if they're alive they should come out and speak out
on things you know like
especially if it's not
represented in the way they attended
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it to be or should they just
turn the other cheek and just be
like well that's just how it was
like that's just how it go
we created it you know
they just took it around with it
you know should they support it or should
they be like no we didn't
intend for it to be like this
people have their own
entitled to their own things or what they
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feel
the freak nick stands for
yeah
sad to say the name stands for
a lot to be honest
it's
freak
loot
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think about it it's a thing
it's a thing of
of
it's always going to be
if you have
if you put a name on it that's what it's
gonna end up being whatever that name is
you know that's branded as
freak and originators the ones
where it started out just as an innocent
little picnic yeah came over
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with this name didn't even think about the
impact of the name how it would affect
it and I think
that's more probably the thing they probably
if they would come out
and speak up and talk about it yeah
it would be nice to know
but I think
that it's such a thing that it's been taken
downhill
and looked at it stamped the stamp of
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approval on it now is way different
than what they thought it was gonna be
I think they might want to keep their hands
off of it you know what I'm saying
I really think they want to keep their hands off of it
because it's nothing wrong
to say that we have
these things that we could look up
you know I'm gonna look it up now just to see
who
in the world
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but want to like
actually say that it was a thing of oh
I originated it
and what like
main freak me yeah
you couldn't come up with another
I mean it's a hard I mean but the way
the way they started out doing
was nothing freaky about it it has to be
somebody young
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but I know they were black though the ones
I seen a little documentary they were black
who created it
black kids college kids
the young yeah you know the word freak
that gives you that you gonna
you gonna know that
from the junk
that is the new
let's see a lot of the people
that the problem
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is now is they running into this thing
of uh
with it being in Atlanta
Atlanta has this
this thing that it's like
everybody
upholds what goes on in Atlanta
and it's a situation on
like okay if you was in Atlanta at that time
you understand what freak next up for
that's what I think really could really
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I think the name
kind of threw it out the name destroyed
it because
and that's another thing we talked about episodes
ago yeah
remember like how branding
how you brand something think be wise
like the
name the slogan of what you choose or something
down to that so Spelman
College so yeah it was
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it was conceived in March
1982 before I was born
on Spelman
College campus
in a DC Metro club meeting
headed by
then president
uh Shula Goodson
Shalit
no
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I don't even know how
but Goodson is the last name
it was sponsored by the club
which was composed by
students from Washington DC
Maryland and Virginia the DC Metro club
intended for it to be challenged
to the California club
for the largest end of
the school year party
Goodson suggested the name Freaknik
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then spelled
F-R-E-A-K
N-I-C
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yeah
they wanted to basically
be a freaky picnic
that's what that
that's basically why it's called freak nick
freaky picnic
freak nick
so that's how it became
so they was on some freaky stuff
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evidently so
but in that documentary
was trying to make it all innocent
are we just selling good with some college kids
they couldn't afford to go home
so we tried to do an event to make some money
but see that's why i'm saying you gotta tell the whole story
so they saying the name
freak nick
the name freak nick was inspired by
le freak by
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chic
le freak say chic
freak nick
a popular song and dance from 1978
first song in john a white
park in atlanta
basically having a good time
in april 1982 it was attended by
at most 150 students
okay look now i see the
because the song
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they probably made it in a party way
freak out
freak say chic
so they probably made it as a party way
but you see how it could get
thrown off just by the name
think about the people
as i said how people change
what those things the way the world
people change it not you know
the goal was
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that but then because
the group came in
certain people certain acts started coming in
and switched the face of it
to live crew yep
all them switched the whole face of it
so hey hey
you think about it
black the black community
has had
a bunch of different ways to do and go at
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a lot of this stuff i mean we don't
we're not the only ones that probably have
talked about freak nick but at the same
that this same token of talking about it
like no like a lot of people probably
didn't talk about that
didn't bring up the situation oh what did freak nick
mean to you what did it what was it
in the 80s okay then what did it
turn to by the 90s and that's the
thing and i think it stereotypes
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blacks because like i said i
told you my situation i just came
from a block party
yesterday and you know
police just nobody
was doing anything bad you know
everybody enjoying themselves and police
just came and harassed everybody big guns
and everything cleared it out
so i guess they're not used to black
folks just getting together
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having a peaceful good time
you know i'm saying they used to
some chaos going on
anytime even if somebody
gets a little loud they think it's trouble
like it might be screaming for
enjoyment but it's just
that fear now you know i'm saying
that yeah like we can't
do nothing right you know
right
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uh
but yeah
i just wanted to bring that in man cause
yeah it's
some history it is some history
one another
i have another black person i want
to talk about too real quick once i go back up
here to it uh
that is tate
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prominent black business man
was one of charlotte's most
prominent black business men
of his era tate started out
by opening his own barber shop
in the late 1800s
ooo weee
shout to the barbers
tate was also a founder of mecklenburg
investment company
um which built
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the first office building in the
queen city
uh for black businesses
tate's contributions to
the community continued
with the bravage street library
and a branch of the
ymca for black
people in charlotte
so shout out that
is tate um this is one thing
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this is one thing i'm a doggone say about
this now black folk
if nothing else we gonna have a dog on
barbershop
if nothing else
if you're running it in the house
it might be in the house running it
i pull up to you i got
the clippers that is tate
was i think that
i've heard of his name before too but again
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not just a case of saying
you think about it a business
man they didn't look at it as he was a barber
or anything
to that nature he just owned
his own barbershop
think about it that's some money
too man that's a good feel
at that time you know it was
everybody need a cut bro
a line or something
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at the time of the 1800s you talking
about
and people really didn't know how
it wasn't even into cutting
so you were making some money everybody
depended on barbers
charlotte got about a thousand barbershops now
a thousand of them
he came in at the right time
in the case of what blacks
have and have had
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over the years if nothing else
is opportunity to
become a better business man
this is basically what i'm basically getting into
with this the reason why i want to get to him
is business
in the black community
has taken a seat to
hard headedness
more so
a lot of us are hard headed
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to being business savvy
let me tell you let me give
an example of what i feel business savvy
what i feel is business savvy
meaning
finding creative language that nobody is doing
and
run it up
we all love to do the same thing
we love to do the same thing
we put a million
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bojangles in the same city
nothing new
everybody want to close a store
everybody want to sell shoes
everybody wants to open a sports store
open a motorcycle store
these are all things that
people want to open
in an area
or sell cars
so how your business gonna thrive you got
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the choices the same as yours
and some people don't even
don't even associate
well with their
business and they don't even know that this is the case
they just feel like oh i can do this
wait a minute
on the business side of it how good are you
really how good are you
at oh i can sell
cars but you might be good
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but like i said the competition
you competing with all these other
companies do the same thing
you gotta go in sports and it ain't even your product
it's just too much
competition nobody gets down
to yours and you have to try yours
and stand out
i think that comes down to
like i said
how much do you know
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like as a business man
like what give me
let me ask you a question how many
black businesses do you think there are
in states of North Carolina
i'ma be honest
i don't know what number
but a lot of places
that i personally have walked in
ran by
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white folks
either Chinese, Japanese, Asian
you know i classify them in the same
like Asians
Asian, White
those mainly
businesses that i've seen
you know
people running
but it probably is
i don't know
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but me walking in these places personally
that's all i see majority Asians
Chinese, Whites
running things
do you feel that a black person
the black
community walks in these stores
do you feel
that they really understand
let's
can i say something
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the employees would be the same
ethnicity as them
they have white cooks
the bakers would be white
the cake place
the Chinese people have
i ain't never seen
this place called P King
if you're in Statesville you know i'm talking about
P King restaurant downtown Statesville
i ain't never seen a black brother
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sister working there
there's always Chinese people in there
but i always come up there to get my number one
fried rice, onion rice
yeah but
but yeah
they don't never have no brother or sister in there
that's another thing
answer your question
this is what i feel
basically saying
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they know how to sell
to us
because we ain't going to think about it
we just going to go in there and eat
but you know that's the hardest
thing that i feel we suffer from
is taking
we take away from our own
we
we won't support the black businesses
we support it but we don't know how to
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start them
so for example i feel like
we could start a
a mom and pop
pop up restaurant right
because the case of
we know what we want
we can go to a restaurant, we know how we want that
restaurant to serve us right
but we won't even go take a chance
to start our own restaurant because we feel like oh it just costs
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too much to do that right
it really doesn't cost a whole lot
in the mentality of the right person it doesn't cost a whole lot
it cost a whole lot
to say that yeah i need a whole
lot of money to go get this but
you don't know who's
willing to help back you up
help you get your
business started if you don't take
chances and try those avenues
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there are so many investors out
here and in the case
of let's talk about it
businessmen, businesses
if you're a businessmen and this is why I basically
talk about especially along with getting your LLC's
right, if you take the
chance to
be and want
to be a businessmen right
the biggest thing you could do at being
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a businessmen is
finding people
like minded with you
that's ready to go
meaning
investors are great to have
but how do you know what investors to go
knock on when it comes to somebody to invest your business
and put money behind you
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to help you push your business
so you saying they gotta believe in what you're doing
over the money
over the money that somebody just invested money into
and then they gotta know that it's gonna make money
cause see the reason being is like I said
same as believing in it cause if you don't believe
it's gonna work then you're gonna be hesitant
to support that business
there you go
that's the part that I'm saying
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know when you gonna
jump into a business
jump in it with confidence
jump in it, learn it
learn it so well that
when they talk to you or ask you about it
once you give them the knowledge
and the what you want and what you need
they like oh yeah here you go
there you go
sometimes they don't even want a dollar back from you
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they just want to see it thrive
you know
and we don't think like that
we think it's gonna cost some money
that because we always are
stuck in the dollar
we done forgot about the dream
we done started thinking about the dollar
we don't even want to think about the dream no more
that's deep
that's my thing
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that's why most businessmen don't
I think most businessmen never get anywhere
because they lose a dream
because they gotten
sucked up into the dollar
keep digging for investors if you don't
having money before it's time to invest
so you see the dream and punching the clock working for somebody
you see they dream
you're working for their dream
that's what you're doing
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you're working for their dream
you're just basically taking care of yourself
that's it you're not taking care of your dream
unless you're putting something into your dream
but listen but once
debt goes
you lose debt what do you have
you don't have a home
you say you're working for their dream
you put your dreams on hold
all the way aside
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you put your dreams
all the way
aside it's easy to put your
dreams aside when you're
broke
it's easy to do
because you need the money
but the case of a businessman
a businessman ain't sitting up there just constantly
yeah a businessman wants to make money but at the same time
he loves the dream part
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of it too so he gonna make money and
chase that dream he gonna love the dream
you fall in love with the dream as they say fall in love with the dream
man fall in love with it with that
part of the dream and that's gonna motivate
you to get that money and put it into
that dream to continue to keep
going it won't slow down
in your mind you won't be like man
I ain't slowing down if I slow down this
ain't gonna happen and that's the case what usually
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just happens people slow down
and just stop due
to the case of how expensive
a dream can be
so an expensive
dream though
is always going to
it's gonna work out
it's gonna work out everybody ain't gonna be able to do it
but again the strongest
will survive that's the only thing I say
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only the strongest will survive only the strongest
gonna keep pushing only the strongest gonna keep showing
up only the strongest gonna keep whatever
happens even if it fails and keeps
failing like I was talking about a couple episodes
back failure get used to
failure get used
to it cause it's gonna happen
but the case is what you do when you
fail is going
to be the next part
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so we have successful businessmen
we have successful black businessmen that have
paved the way for us
shown us
given us let us see it
let us feel it let us touch it
we can do the same thing
just be creative in it
stop doing what Joe
Smoke doing down the street
y'all both trying to sell the same product
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do it better than he's
doing it make it taste better than what his
tastes better than cut better than
his cut let your material
your cloth your clothes be way different
than theirs I was about to get into that
the entertainment whatever it is like
everything is over saturated man everything
sounds alike looks alike
and
the interest is going out the window
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and that's why you see
folks canceling tours you see
them you know what I'm saying I don't really
see a lot of people selling
selling like that nowadays in
the entertainment we gonna talk about entertainment
you gotta be a name
you gotta be unique it's a couple
of them Nikki is selling cause she's
unique she has a you know what I'm saying
a lot of them are selling
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man certain ones
though like a lot of them ain't
over saturated
this is a saturated
situation period not even just
music people black people
find your inventive space
find your creative space
and learn to do something
that somebody has not done
that would take you a long way media
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everything that would take you a long
way
we're 30 minutes in
again
another Thursday coming to an end
Friday to morrow y'all
have a good weekend
those that are
traveling this weekend be safe
if not
if you're getting close to the
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summertime with these kids
April is getting
to a well excuse me
May
is coming to a close
but again
we have
a very short
one more week after this if I'm not mistaken
this will be going until last week of May
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June
summertime let's turn it up
a notch let's do some
black historians
on a different level
I got a couple ideas
but again
Father's Day is June too right?
it's a lot to
pull out
and a lot to express
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over the next coming months
Independence Day July
a lot of stuff coming up
a lot of stuff to push for history
that can be
for us Juneteenth
a lot of people just celebrate these things
and don't know the meaning
what they celebrate
Juneteenth is something I'm going to push this year
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I got a couple angles I'm going to knock out
it's very hard this year
I didn't have an angle on it the past couple years
but I actually have an angle on it this year
I'm gripping it the correct way
so yes definitely going to do that
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What's going on
everybody another Thursday
not just music
podcast my boy Duann
Quincey Marino got Quincey Marino
in the building as always
how's everything? Same
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same you know how that go
not just music podcast we back
again to inform educate
and let them know
the importance of black
and just the importance of life
and you know how we do
and this place
I'm always talking as I told you
I'm always going to talk about something black
gotta have a black history
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I love that stuff
I love touching
putting you all on
last couple episodes man
definitely the history
government people in government roles
election is coming
yes
so it's important
so it's good to talk about these
cases so we can
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have
knowledge and also
learn that we can do and make a difference
in
our cities where we're at
it doesn't matter where you're at I'm speaking from
where we are I'm from Charlotte
Hughes from Statesville
so you know it's a big
window of opportunity
to get into these things
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and help your city please do
do something to help your city
wherever you're at it's always something to do
to improve
what we have
I'm going to kind of pick up slightly
from where we were going
I was already speaking on Harvey Begant
I
spoke on the vlows
those are
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they are very known for
being black mayors first black mayors
of city Charlotte
I want to move on and also
give props
to somebody else
scroll down to his name
his name is Rodney Monroe
Rodney Monroe
Rodney Monroe is CMPD's
first black police chief
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he made history in Charlotte
in 2008 when he became
the Charlotte McLaren Police Department's
first black police chief Monroe was
appointed after
serving as police chief in Macon
Georgia and Richmond Virginia
he's not a
Charlotte native but again
he made it happen in the city of Charlotte
after serving in the position
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for seven years Monroe retired in 2015
Monroe retired
having protected and served
for nearly 40 years
I was going to ask was he still in there you read it
he did 40
a bid in his time
well
he did 40 years in all of his time
working as an officer
in his time as a CMPD
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chief he led the force
during a period of steady crime
reduction including the lowest number
of homicides on record
which is rare
and the city of Charlotte was known
for around that
time too a lot of bills you know
but again let's
keep moving let's keep moving I got another one I'm going to
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see here
next
is
Ray
Booton
which or Booton that might be
his name Booton or Booton
or Booton I think it is
going to be Ray Booton is the Charlotte's
first black police
officer
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Ray Booton was joined
okay
they ain't going to let me read this y'all are just trying to let me be
great
Ray Booton joined what is now
known as Charlotte Mecklenburg
Police Department in 1946
after serving in World War II
Booton was one of eight black
officers who joined the force and was one
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of the first black police
officers to ever walk
the beat in Charlotte
four years after joining the police department
he left and went to become a minister
which I wanted to you know
Booton died
in 2009 we laid a long time
Booton at the age of 89
Booton was
the last surviving member
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of those original eight officers
who joined the force
so
shout out to
him as well that's all I can say
I'm sticking within these government roles
y'all hear what I'm saying
something that's dealing with the government dealing with the city
there could be forces
you know you could be a force
even in police office if that's what you
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choose to be I'm not hating on nobody because there's some good
police officers out here not all y'all
dirty not all y'all bad
but again there's another
way to get yourself into the seat of
city council and to make a change
work you know
again but
but a lot of nowadays
a lot of the good officers you know
they try to push out of
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the branch unfortunately like you know with
the biggie remember dudes trying to sign
a biggie case and
they didn't want that to be disclosed
and they kicked can't fire him
it's a lot of shadiness going on
police force and
yeah definitely
and here's another
here's another situation
that I wanted to bring up me being
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that I live in Rock Hill South Carolina
I found this out
very recently and I wanted to bring this
up
of course
as feeling
as if in like okay where what happens
in the city of Rock
Hill I mean it's not much
South Carolina can't be that much going on down there
and actually a lot of stuff has actually
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happened a lot of historical
moments have taken place
in Rock Hill South Carolina so one
of them being they
call this the friendship nine
Rock Hill city and movement
of course a lot of us are doing city
and you know along the year especially in
the 60s but on this day
on January 31st 1961 a group
of nine students was arrested
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after staging
a sit in at a segregated
lunch counter at
McCrory's Five and Dime store on Main
Street in Rock Hill South Carolina
which is about maybe
less than five minutes from my house
the friendship nine refused to
bail out of jail instead
serving 30 days of hard
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labor to draw attention to the
cause of integration look how deep that
let's thank let's pause there for
a minute would you spend
30 days in jail for the cause
of black people
would you spend 30 days
would you spend 30 days
in jail for the
cause of black people
to make things better or to make
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a point for the situation
of who black people are
back then yeah back
then yeah back then I would
now probably not cause
most black people don't even believe in it themselves
like it's sad
you know what I'm saying you have to
that's a big that's a big sacrifice
nowadays you know like definitely
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yeah back then they were more
appreciative and it was I'm not
down in the community now but
we live bro we
we know you know what I'm
saying the morals and respect
just went down yeah yeah it's all
off yeah
the group was
the first the group
was the first group of students to ever
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refused to pay bail according to
the french of nuns website
check that out
the organization says the group
decided to do this
because it was costing a hundred dollars
or more to bail African American
students out of jail after getting arrested
for sitting at white
on the counters
I got one after you finish
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the decision to be taken
to jail was done both
to make a statement
and to save civil rights groups
money the organization
says the group has
since been named the friendship
nine or friendship nine
as eight of the
nine were students at friendship
junior college so
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again shout out to
the friendship nine
I'm gonna pull those names up and
find who they were exactly
who they were because I would love
to know and I'm gonna bring that and do
we're gonna have to pull that in a homosode or something like that
maybe in a single or in a
solo however but again
um
appreciate y'all taking those stances
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man to I can't
thank a lot of y'all enough
for doing those sit ins
give us those chances to where we can go
eat in these restaurants that
you know we never probably would ever been able to eat
at if y'all didn't go take a chance and just go do
it right and mess up the whole
situation and make a point and
put a stamp on it and make it
approval to the way we talk about it in history
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these days you know it's not talked
about enough but I'm talking about it now
right so I'm gonna
bring up something man cause I know we talking
about a lot of creations and
you know uh
a lot of things and this
is part of the black to a lot of things
that uh we see
now like today
um wasn't originally planned
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how the originators
made it created it they didn't want us to use
it in the wrong ways
um I know this is very
popular right now
um I wanted to bring up
a situation to freak-nique for people
that ain't saw that
so it was an
annual spring break festival in
Atlanta Georgia it was initially
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attended by students
enrolled at historical black
colleges and universities in Atlanta
University Center it began
in 1983 as a small picnic
in a public park near the
Atlanta University Center sponsored by
the DC Metro Club for
students who could not afford to
return home for spring break
so
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I read a little bit and I watched
the documentary um they created
this and what they would do is
a lot of people would you know
sell food sell items
and they would come up with money
you know I'm saying from selling these things
and people would associate get
together have a good time music
and stuff like that um
that's how
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freak-nique came about
fast forward
it became more of a destructive
thing uh they start you know
sexual
things started
attending the whole purpose
of giving kinda
went out the window the purpose of what
it was started for and created for
um you know went out the window
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and it became more
sexual activity driven
you know what I'm saying and more
destructive than
profiting so uh
I say that to say this
um I think the
original people
the people that created these things
should come out and
voice their opinions and
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make their story more known
and maybe it'll shed
another light on things that probably
are looked at that wasn't looked at
that way in the past um
I wanna ask you
do you think original
if they're alive they should come out and speak out
on things you know like
especially if it's not
represented in the way they attended
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it to be or should they just
turn the other cheek and just be
like well that's just how it was
like that's just how it go
we created it you know
they just took it around with it
you know should they support it or should
they be like no we didn't
intend for it to be like this
people have their own
entitled to their own things or what they
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feel
the freak nick stands for
yeah
sad to say the name stands for
a lot to be honest
it's
freak
loot
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think about it it's a thing
it's a thing of
of
it's always going to be
if you have
if you put a name on it that's what it's
gonna end up being whatever that name is
you know that's branded as
freak and originators the ones
where it started out just as an innocent
little picnic yeah came over
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with this name didn't even think about the
impact of the name how it would affect
it and I think
that's more probably the thing they probably
if they would come out
and speak up and talk about it yeah
it would be nice to know
but I think
that it's such a thing that it's been taken
downhill
and looked at it stamped the stamp of
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approval on it now is way different
than what they thought it was gonna be
I think they might want to keep their hands
off of it you know what I'm saying
I really think they want to keep their hands off of it
because it's nothing wrong
to say that we have
these things that we could look up
you know I'm gonna look it up now just to see
who
in the world
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but want to like
actually say that it was a thing of oh
I originated it
and what like
main freak me yeah
you couldn't come up with another
I mean it's a hard I mean but the way
the way they started out doing
was nothing freaky about it it has to be
somebody young
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but I know they were black though the ones
I seen a little documentary they were black
who created it
black kids college kids
the young yeah you know the word freak
that gives you that you gonna
you gonna know that
from the junk
that is the new
let's see a lot of the people
that the problem
(14:52):
is now is they running into this thing
of uh
with it being in Atlanta
Atlanta has this
this thing that it's like
everybody
upholds what goes on in Atlanta
and it's a situation on
like okay if you was in Atlanta at that time
you understand what freak next up for
that's what I think really could really
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I think the name
kind of threw it out the name destroyed
it because
and that's another thing we talked about episodes
ago yeah
remember like how branding
how you brand something think be wise
like the
name the slogan of what you choose or something
down to that so Spelman
College so yeah it was
(15:36):
it was conceived in March
1982 before I was born
on Spelman
College campus
in a DC Metro club meeting
headed by
then president
uh Shula Goodson
Shalit
no
(15:58):
I don't even know how
but Goodson is the last name
it was sponsored by the club
which was composed by
students from Washington DC
Maryland and Virginia the DC Metro club
intended for it to be challenged
to the California club
for the largest end of
the school year party
Goodson suggested the name Freaknik
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then spelled
F-R-E-A-K
N-I-C
as a
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(17:26):
up all platforms
yeah
they wanted to basically
be a freaky picnic
that's what that
that's basically why it's called freak nick
freaky picnic
freak nick
so that's how it became
so they was on some freaky stuff
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evidently so
but in that documentary
was trying to make it all innocent
are we just selling good with some college kids
they couldn't afford to go home
so we tried to do an event to make some money
but see that's why i'm saying you gotta tell the whole story
so they saying the name
freak nick
the name freak nick was inspired by
le freak by
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chic
le freak say chic
freak nick
a popular song and dance from 1978
first song in john a white
park in atlanta
basically having a good time
in april 1982 it was attended by
at most 150 students
okay look now i see the
because the song
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they probably made it in a party way
freak out
freak say chic
so they probably made it as a party way
but you see how it could get
thrown off just by the name
think about the people
as i said how people change
what those things the way the world
people change it not you know
the goal was
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that but then because
the group came in
certain people certain acts started coming in
and switched the face of it
to live crew yep
all them switched the whole face of it
so hey hey
you think about it
black the black community
has had
a bunch of different ways to do and go at
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a lot of this stuff i mean we don't
we're not the only ones that probably have
talked about freak nick but at the same
that this same token of talking about it
like no like a lot of people probably
didn't talk about that
didn't bring up the situation oh what did freak nick
mean to you what did it what was it
in the 80s okay then what did it
turn to by the 90s and that's the
thing and i think it stereotypes
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blacks because like i said i
told you my situation i just came
from a block party
yesterday and you know
police just nobody
was doing anything bad you know
everybody enjoying themselves and police
just came and harassed everybody big guns
and everything cleared it out
so i guess they're not used to black
folks just getting together
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having a peaceful good time
you know i'm saying they used to
some chaos going on
anytime even if somebody
gets a little loud they think it's trouble
like it might be screaming for
enjoyment but it's just
that fear now you know i'm saying
that yeah like we can't
do nothing right you know
right
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uh
but yeah
i just wanted to bring that in man cause
yeah it's
some history it is some history
one another
i have another black person i want
to talk about too real quick once i go back up
here to it uh
that is tate
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prominent black business man
was one of charlotte's most
prominent black business men
of his era tate started out
by opening his own barber shop
in the late 1800s
ooo weee
shout to the barbers
tate was also a founder of mecklenburg
investment company
um which built
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the first office building in the
queen city
uh for black businesses
tate's contributions to
the community continued
with the bravage street library
and a branch of the
ymca for black
people in charlotte
so shout out that
is tate um this is one thing
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this is one thing i'm a doggone say about
this now black folk
if nothing else we gonna have a dog on
barbershop
if nothing else
if you're running it in the house
it might be in the house running it
i pull up to you i got
the clippers that is tate
was i think that
i've heard of his name before too but again
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not just a case of saying
you think about it a business
man they didn't look at it as he was a barber
or anything
to that nature he just owned
his own barbershop
think about it that's some money
too man that's a good feel
at that time you know it was
everybody need a cut bro
a line or something
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at the time of the 1800s you talking
about
and people really didn't know how
it wasn't even into cutting
so you were making some money everybody
depended on barbers
charlotte got about a thousand barbershops now
a thousand of them
he came in at the right time
in the case of what blacks
have and have had
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over the years if nothing else
is opportunity to
become a better business man
this is basically what i'm basically getting into
with this the reason why i want to get to him
is business
in the black community
has taken a seat to
hard headedness
more so
a lot of us are hard headed
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to being business savvy
let me tell you let me give
an example of what i feel business savvy
what i feel is business savvy
meaning
finding creative language that nobody is doing
and
run it up
we all love to do the same thing
we love to do the same thing
we put a million
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bojangles in the same city
nothing new
everybody want to close a store
everybody want to sell shoes
everybody wants to open a sports store
open a motorcycle store
these are all things that
people want to open
in an area
or sell cars
so how your business gonna thrive you got
(23:38):
the choices the same as yours
and some people don't even
don't even associate
well with their
business and they don't even know that this is the case
they just feel like oh i can do this
wait a minute
on the business side of it how good are you
really how good are you
at oh i can sell
cars but you might be good
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but like i said the competition
you competing with all these other
companies do the same thing
you gotta go in sports and it ain't even your product
it's just too much
competition nobody gets down
to yours and you have to try yours
and stand out
i think that comes down to
like i said
how much do you know
(24:22):
like as a business man
like what give me
let me ask you a question how many
black businesses do you think there are
in states of North Carolina
i'ma be honest
i don't know what number
but a lot of places
that i personally have walked in
ran by
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white folks
either Chinese, Japanese, Asian
you know i classify them in the same
like Asians
Asian, White
those mainly
businesses that i've seen
you know
people running
but it probably is
i don't know
(25:06):
but me walking in these places personally
that's all i see majority Asians
Chinese, Whites
running things
do you feel that a black person
the black
community walks in these stores
do you feel
that they really understand
let's
can i say something
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the employees would be the same
ethnicity as them
they have white cooks
the bakers would be white
the cake place
the Chinese people have
i ain't never seen
this place called P King
if you're in Statesville you know i'm talking about
P King restaurant downtown Statesville
i ain't never seen a black brother
(25:50):
sister working there
there's always Chinese people in there
but i always come up there to get my number one
fried rice, onion rice
yeah but
but yeah
they don't never have no brother or sister in there
that's another thing
answer your question
this is what i feel
basically saying
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they know how to sell
to us
because we ain't going to think about it
we just going to go in there and eat
but you know that's the hardest
thing that i feel we suffer from
is taking
we take away from our own
we
we won't support the black businesses
we support it but we don't know how to
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start them
so for example i feel like
we could start a
a mom and pop
pop up restaurant right
because the case of
we know what we want
we can go to a restaurant, we know how we want that
restaurant to serve us right
but we won't even go take a chance
to start our own restaurant because we feel like oh it just costs
(26:56):
too much to do that right
it really doesn't cost a whole lot
in the mentality of the right person it doesn't cost a whole lot
it cost a whole lot
to say that yeah i need a whole
lot of money to go get this but
you don't know who's
willing to help back you up
help you get your
business started if you don't take
chances and try those avenues
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there are so many investors out
here and in the case
of let's talk about it
businessmen, businesses
if you're a businessmen and this is why I basically
talk about especially along with getting your LLC's
right, if you take the
chance to
be and want
to be a businessmen right
the biggest thing you could do at being
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a businessmen is
finding people
like minded with you
that's ready to go
meaning
investors are great to have
but how do you know what investors to go
knock on when it comes to somebody to invest your business
and put money behind you
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to help you push your business
so you saying they gotta believe in what you're doing
over the money
over the money that somebody just invested money into
and then they gotta know that it's gonna make money
cause see the reason being is like I said
same as believing in it cause if you don't believe
it's gonna work then you're gonna be hesitant
to support that business
there you go
that's the part that I'm saying
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know when you gonna
jump into a business
jump in it with confidence
jump in it, learn it
learn it so well that
when they talk to you or ask you about it
once you give them the knowledge
and the what you want and what you need
they like oh yeah here you go
there you go
sometimes they don't even want a dollar back from you
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they just want to see it thrive
you know
and we don't think like that
we think it's gonna cost some money
that because we always are
stuck in the dollar
we done forgot about the dream
we done started thinking about the dollar
we don't even want to think about the dream no more
that's deep
that's my thing
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that's why most businessmen don't
I think most businessmen never get anywhere
because they lose a dream
because they gotten
sucked up into the dollar
keep digging for investors if you don't
having money before it's time to invest
so you see the dream and punching the clock working for somebody
you see they dream
you're working for their dream
that's what you're doing
(29:30):
you're working for their dream
you're just basically taking care of yourself
that's it you're not taking care of your dream
unless you're putting something into your dream
but listen but once
debt goes
you lose debt what do you have
you don't have a home
you say you're working for their dream
you put your dreams on hold
all the way aside
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you put your dreams
all the way
aside it's easy to put your
dreams aside when you're
broke
it's easy to do
because you need the money
but the case of a businessman
a businessman ain't sitting up there just constantly
yeah a businessman wants to make money but at the same time
he loves the dream part
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of it too so he gonna make money and
chase that dream he gonna love the dream
you fall in love with the dream as they say fall in love with the dream
man fall in love with it with that
part of the dream and that's gonna motivate
you to get that money and put it into
that dream to continue to keep
going it won't slow down
in your mind you won't be like man
I ain't slowing down if I slow down this
ain't gonna happen and that's the case what usually
(30:36):
just happens people slow down
and just stop due
to the case of how expensive
a dream can be
so an expensive
dream though
is always going to
it's gonna work out
it's gonna work out everybody ain't gonna be able to do it
but again the strongest
will survive that's the only thing I say
(30:58):
only the strongest will survive only the strongest
gonna keep pushing only the strongest gonna keep showing
up only the strongest gonna keep whatever
happens even if it fails and keeps
failing like I was talking about a couple episodes
back failure get used to
failure get used
to it cause it's gonna happen
but the case is what you do when you
fail is going
to be the next part
(31:20):
so we have successful businessmen
we have successful black businessmen that have
paved the way for us
shown us
given us let us see it
let us feel it let us touch it
we can do the same thing
just be creative in it
stop doing what Joe
Smoke doing down the street
y'all both trying to sell the same product
(31:42):
do it better than he's
doing it make it taste better than what his
tastes better than cut better than
his cut let your material
your cloth your clothes be way different
than theirs I was about to get into that
the entertainment whatever it is like
everything is over saturated man everything
sounds alike looks alike
and
the interest is going out the window
(32:04):
and that's why you see
folks canceling tours you see
them you know what I'm saying I don't really
see a lot of people selling
selling like that nowadays in
the entertainment we gonna talk about entertainment
you gotta be a name
you gotta be unique it's a couple
of them Nikki is selling cause she's
unique she has a you know what I'm saying
a lot of them are selling
(32:26):
man certain ones
though like a lot of them ain't
over saturated
this is a saturated
situation period not even just
music people black people
find your inventive space
find your creative space
and learn to do something
that somebody has not done
that would take you a long way media
(32:48):
everything that would take you a long
way
we're 30 minutes in
again
another Thursday coming to an end
Friday to morrow y'all
have a good weekend
those that are
traveling this weekend be safe
if not
if you're getting close to the
(33:10):
summertime with these kids
April is getting
to a well excuse me
May
is coming to a close
but again
we have
a very short
one more week after this if I'm not mistaken
this will be going until last week of May
(33:32):
June
summertime let's turn it up
a notch let's do some
black historians
on a different level
I got a couple ideas
but again
Father's Day is June too right?
it's a lot to
pull out
and a lot to express
(33:54):
over the next coming months
Independence Day July
a lot of stuff coming up
a lot of stuff to push for history
that can be
for us Juneteenth
a lot of people just celebrate these things
and don't know the meaning
what they celebrate
Juneteenth is something I'm going to push this year
(34:16):
I got a couple angles I'm going to knock out
it's very hard this year
I didn't have an angle on it the past couple years
but I actually have an angle on it this year
I'm gripping it the correct way
so yes definitely going to do that
but again Not Just Music Podcast
y'all have a good weekend
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(34:38):
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again I'm Duann Barrino
Quincy Murdock in the building
y'all have a good weekend again lastly
y'all be easy
(35:00):
have a good one
what's going on it's your boy Duann Barrino
from Not Just Music Podcast
make sure you stay tuned for next week's
episode alright
peace
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