June 13, 2024 • 24 mins
In this weeks episode we talk about a few different aspects of Black History of Pine Grove School. Education was a very big thing for African American. Now education is looked at as little or none at all. The key objective is to move the culture forward. If we never talk about any of the history that has unfolded, how will we know how far we've come? So let's talk.
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Yo, it's your boy Quincy Murdock and you're now tuned in to another episode of Not Just
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Music Podcast where we keep it real and honest, always.
What's going on everybody?
Not Just Music Podcast, Dwarne Burrino, Quincy Murdock in the building as always.
How's everything sir?
Everything good.
We been hitting them, hitting them, hitting them, hitting them, hitting them with these
(00:28):
last episodes man.
I've been feeling it, you've been feeling it.
I hope the people are feeling it most and definitely, you know, we just here to spread
the word man and wake the people up.
They're asleep and it's something that's woken.
We encourage the woke ones to spread it also, the knowledge they have.
How you doing man?
Excellent.
No complaints here.
We want to be educated and give educated thoughts on black history.
(00:59):
2024 is definitely a year that we definitely need to understand that a lot is definitely
going on in the black community and the black community has failed the black community in
many ways.
Right.
One, I'm still digging into the case of, as I say, education.
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If we didn't lack education so much, we probably could be in a bigger space with each other.
Right.
We don't look at equality the correct way and I'm speaking of equality amongst our own
community.
(01:44):
One way, just look at how upset and how angry people are.
We're just the common people.
Let's say the common people, look at how upset the common people are with one another.
Right.
And this is, this again, I've already spoken on togetherness.
(02:07):
The reason why we lack the togetherness, I think it really starts with the children nowadays.
If we can't teach the children the correct way by the time they become adults, they're
in a different position, they're in a different space and mindset is all over the place.
But the reason being is that way is because they learn to be a certain way for their,
(02:29):
basically their entire lives.
So one reason I'm saying this is because, like I said, I've been sticking to the Rosenwald
schools.
The Rosenwald schools to me were one of the biggest pinnacle points in the South at helping
raise, educate and help the black child.
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I speak from a place of wanting black people to recognize the space that we were in then
versus now, always to show what they had versus what we have.
Again, we're one of the most blessed, we're in one of the most blessed situations considerably
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if we're going to weigh, compare this era to that era.
Yes.
Well, white people let their history be known though.
They let-
We don't let ours be known.
They roll it out on the red carpet.
Like teaching.
Like you say.
They roll it out on the red carpet in white America, bro.
We got the same choice and option.
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They roll it out like it's-
Don't get me wrong.
And it's not wrong for them to do it.
It's not wrong for them to do it.
Like it's not wrong for us to roll ours out on the red carpet.
You know?
Nope.
And we just choose to just say that we're not going to do that.
Oh, we ain't got no opportunity.
We want to stick on the bed.
And if one person has to say it, it's always going to come out of the person's mouth that's
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going through it.
So let me give you something.
Let's start off by saying it is not just Black History Month anymore.
Let's start there.
Let's start by saying it's something to talk about that has to do with black history all
of the time.
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It just gets, again, it gets mixed up and it can get easily swept under a rug and forgotten
about very quickly.
It's due to because it's not praised.
Now let's make sense of it.
Again, sticking to the Rosenwald schools, I found another one.
This one is called Pine Grove School.
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Built in 1923 is the last remaining Rosenwald school in Richland County.
Through funding secured from the South Carolina Community Competitive Grant Program, Richland
County Conservation Commission and Lowes Charitable and Educational Preservation Fund through
(05:17):
the Richland County Recreation Foundation and Commission has worked diligently to restore
the school to its original configuration and successfully created a historic community
gathering place.
In 2009, the school received its national register designation and just recently received a historic
(05:42):
preservation award from the Historic Columbia Foundation.
Now let's pause for a second just so I can always explain this.
If you don't know, the, let me make sure I say this the correct way, national register.
Again, that's what I'm basically speaking about episode after episode.
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Every historic landmark, if it's done the correct way, there is a marker that sits in
front of a building or a house or a something to the whatever the case of it is, is being
displayed and it explains and breaks down the details to what the situation or what
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it makes it history or why it is history.
Pay those attention, pay them attention.
Even if it's the case of you're riding by a place and you see one, get out and look at
it.
It's got nothing to do with black history.
You don't even know it.
I see a lot of them too.
You do.
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It's crazy how many- You think it was just a sign.
Yeah, you would think that it's just a sign.
Like it's just a sign, bro.
Bro, I done passed it for years.
These are gold, like you said.
40 years old, bro, and I'm just not making sense of those.
I'm ashamed of myself.
I am.
I am.
I'm 40.
Like the history, the history right in our face and we just ride right by it.
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And again, that's why a lot of this stuff is getting thrown under dirt now.
Bulldoze to the ground.
I'm glad we called it before it dies.
You know what I'm saying?
We got it in the craziest things.
You feel like that's the one thing that I wish we could finally get a hold of.
Just like what America does with their monuments and their figures and all of the stuff they
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feel should have this historical mark, they protect it with their life.
They do.
And it's not their fault.
Like I said, it's our fault.
We don't push them the same thing.
Thank you.
Because I thought that we don't do the same thing.
Just like with schools.
We got a lot to talk about and brag about as we been doing.
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If we don't say nothing, just like if we don't say nothing again.
If we don't say nothing, how are we ever going to get to that point where it'll be looked
at as gratified or that was gratification to look at that.
If nobody says this, bro, all they're going to talk about is the negative and black blacks.
That's all they're going to talk about.
If nobody says this and it takes somebody or a few to have to stand for something and
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get behind somebody that's probably pushing the same narrative for people to be like,
wow, okay, I see another light in it.
It's a different perspective of that race, that person, that human, that culture.
This is again, when will we be respected for being us?
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When we respect us.
Hear that?
When will we be respected for being us is when we respect us.
Nobody is going to force us to go talk about the topics that we talk about.
Again, y'all are quick to go look at, well, did they find anything else on Diddy?
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Let me go see if they found anything else on Diddy.
Y'all are going to look for that, but it won't even take the time to even look and see who
your great, great granddaddy was.
I'm sorry.
Or your great-grandma.
God.
Or your great-uncle.
Or your great-great-great-uncle.
Or anybody that follows your history, where'd you come from?
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You know what I'm saying?
Where did you come from?
A lot of the times, it's like I said, that was simple to find it.
The Rosenwald schools, we can talk about that all for the next month and we still wouldn't
be done.
You know what?
I don't even want to mention Diddy name.
I think Diddy get more, every time we mention his name, he's getting more power.
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So I don't even want to say Diddy no more.
Because honestly, that's all people would get from an episode if we pushed it, if we
put that out because it's so toxic that we forget what's important and misconstrued what's
important.
You take your mind off of something good, that's the whole entire point.
You're absolutely right.
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The more we roll into something to give something more power, we'll never get to the point of
where we're actually effective.
Just like the whole situation of schools.
And this is Rosenwald school, I know this is the case of, was to do something for the
black community and the nature of that.
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As we spoke on the last episode with the churches that help, right?
Now let me ask you this question.
With as many black communities as this in the world, in the US, and let's not even just
fine tune it, with all the communities that are in America today, right?
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Even if five neighborhoods from each city came together, and I'm talking, came together
in something in the situation of black, right?
Come together to create a situation, let's say this neighborhood is going to have fun
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night every single Friday.
Just nothing but black people.
They pull up to have fun night, not on nothing crazy, something that's educational, that's
built to help versus wreck us.
Meaning, you pull up and it ain't going to be like a whole bunch of alcohol, it ain't
going to be drugs, and that's what we need to get to.
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And I'm sorry to cut in, but I remember Tupac was doing something like that, where his creation
of Thug Life, for example.
And one of the things where we don't sell drugs, so we don't have drugs around when
kids are getting off the school bus destinations, we don't have drugs, we don't sell dope on
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the streets or nothing where the kids are.
It was all about, that structure he had was like a black structure, I think the old modern
had.
Tupac was ahead of his time.
So the way that he was educated, and he didn't want gang banging to be showing the kids,
it was all about kids.
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So like you say, the thing of it is, and a lot of black people say this, like, oh, we
just got together to have a good time.
The event that I had just came from.
But it was kids out there, it was smoking going on, it was drinking going on, it was
guns, people toting guns out there.
So if you really, why can't we eliminate all that and still have fun?
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Thank you.
Why can't we wait and smoke and drink when we get home to ourselves and stuff?
Why we gotta do it in public?
Because you know what?
Let's confuse the enemy, let's confuse the races that's out there, let's confuse them
and be like, they rolled through and they can't find no gun on us when we having fun.
So they just have to keep riding.
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We ain't breaking no laws, sir.
You know what I'm saying?
Ain't no alcohol out here, ain't no weed out here, ain't no guns out here.
We just listening to music, having fun.
See that, but the white people know how to do that.
They know how to eliminate the drugs and the alcohol when it's convenient to them and the
police.
So it ain't about a black or white thing, it's about a smart thing, being smart.
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You know what I'm saying?
And being accountable for who you are.
And knowing, being prepared.
That's what I think Tupac was pushing also.
Handle, be prepared for what you can control.
If this cop roll up on me, am I dirty?
Am I not dirty?
Am I clean?
That's the personal decision we all make, is what we do.
So my mentality, and this is mine, and I'm going to be honest, with most of the, like
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you just said, most of the black community, right?
We bring these kids around, right?
And I was already talking about educating them.
Think about that.
You got a gun out, you just sitting there with a gun out.
Or you sitting there, you smoking a blunt.
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Or smoking a cigarette.
Or drinking some alcohol, got an open container or whatever, right?
You out here just living your best crazy life, right?
A kid get a hold of that.
A kid just roll around, just say an alcohol bottle just sitting there opening.
He just roll up and grabbing it and start drinking it.
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You can create a habit right, starting from right there.
Bro, you ain't see where the kid took the edible brownie or some candy to school.
He thought it was candy.
And that it was due because the parents had it.
So what you think is not harmful might turn out to be harmful and hurt the generations
to come.
Our actions influences the generations to come.
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Like, long story short, that's what we saying.
Your actions destroy, and this is another thing, the people that's against it, when
you get around these people, don't encourage it.
Like, nah, put that smoke over there, that ain't good.
But now you have older generations that just want to blend in with the crowd.
And even though it's wrong, so that's where the problem is.
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So who are our kids looking up to?
If we have everybody wanting to fit in, nobody wanting to correct the wrong behavior, like
and who would the kids look?
So they looking at it as like, okay, this is cool.
Okay, I'm going to do it.
That's why it comes to people like us to stand for something.
You got to stand for something.
There ain't too many black people standing for something now.
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You know, ain't nobody want to stand for something.
Listen to what you just said.
Now if the community, I don't know, as I just pointed out with the school, if the communities
don't come together.
I got the solution.
Like, word.
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I got the solution, brother.
What you really, what you mean?
You got to-
No, like how I think I just, like what I just broke down, like how, you know, you should
eliminate the guns and no selling drugs on the corners because it's kids getting off
the bus stops right here.
You know what I'm saying?
And you know, we going to clean up our neighborhoods and our environments and stuff like that.
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So yeah, I think I got the vision.
And like I said, you know, like I'm talking to some people.
This is the part that I want, that's the part I want heard because a lot of times we got
to clean up our own.
We make these community events and we put these community events together and we just
out there doing all kinds of wrong things to the point where you can't even focus on
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the things that are doing, that's going on that could be considerably right.
And it's not, and it's not, and it's not, and my thing is it's not wrong for you to
do it on your own time.
Personally, I don't smoke or drink, but I don't judge nobody.
I never have because I don't like, I don't want them taking control of me to be honest.
I, it's just, I'm against it.
You know what I'm saying?
But if you're going to do it, do it on your own time.
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And then also don't do it in front of your kids.
Don't do it in front of these kids and, and don't sell drugs on the same corners and pollute.
You're killing your own people in your area, in your territory.
When you selling these drugs, like you have to think about it.
You're selling these drugs off a profit of just some small money that you going to run
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out of.
So it, so think about this.
If you love your black people that much, why would you kill your black people and give
them this poison?
If you love your black people, if we love black, as we say, we do look at yourself and
ask yourself, what are we doing to help our community, our people, and what are we doing
to destroy our black people in our community?
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Oh boy.
Once you start putting yourself, that accountability, you put them in people's hands.
You put these pieces together and start taking accountability that change the likes of what
you going to do.
Your likes, the likes of what you would do would totally change if you look at what considerably
is accountable.
Just like you said with kids, if a, if a, if a mom is sitting up, let me just go, let's
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go deeper.
If a parent period is sitting up here doing something that they're, I ain't even, let's
not even say what they ain't supposed to be doing.
Let's say period, but if you're just sitting up here doing something in front of your child,
if you think that your child ain't going to pick up what you're doing, you have been totally
mistaking yourself.
I wouldn't even dare smoke in front of my mom if I was a smoker.
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I wouldn't, I would have the respect not to even do that.
Some people don't feel, yeah, some people don't feel respect is, is, is should be given
anymore and that's like what I say with these schools.
And we need to clean that up, man.
Yeah, these schools respected what they put into a child, what the youth generation was
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about.
The morals was different.
They, they wasn't worried about what they selves was.
I mean, you know, smoking, I mean, we can't even afford to smoke.
We can't even afford to drink, you know, and even if it was a case of they could afford
to smoke and drink, look at the positions that they were putting their kids and their
families in at that time with all of the stuff in this, all of the struggles they were going
on.
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The benefits of it though, what, do the benefits outweigh the benefits, do the good benefits
outweigh the bad benefits of smoking and drinking.
You gonna spend a lot of money on it.
Yep.
It's gonna take all your money.
History has shown most devs, people were intoxicated, you know, with marijuana.
Most of them were high when they got in situations.
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Controlled substances.
Are arrested, made that one bad decision, quick decision.
They were, they were not in their right mind.
They were intoxicated.
They were, you know, with drugs or alcohol.
So look at the history, you know, that what is it, is it causing more harm than positive?
Ask yourself that.
I think it is causing more harm.
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It causes more harm.
Your body can only take with so much.
And again, the more, the more you put on yourself, the more you putting on your body, the easier
likely it is to that you're going to end up hurting or killing your own self.
And you just temporarily erasing the pain, you know?
You still gotta, you get to the root of the problem.
And that's the thing with black people.
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We gotta get to the root of really what the problem is, you know what I'm saying?
And stop covering up, like covering up the history, like how we want to reveal the good
things.
We gotta keep it real with our people on the bad things we need to correct too.
Because then it will grow and make the black community even better.
But you can't grow something if you don't point out the bad things of the, of the, or
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the bad things of those people or that individual or that race.
You have to be honest, you know what I'm saying?
Correction is only there to help.
You feel me?
And that's, that's why we are taking control of little by, I mean taking control of things
little by little.
They're gonna get it soon.
The only way it's gonna get done is if somebody keeps giving it in the nature of giving it
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in a way of, okay.
I think it's working.
What can you give, what can you give to your community?
Just as these schools where these people were trying to give something to have, what are
you giving to your community that's going to help the next generation be great or better
than this generation that we're in?
Or you know, let's give these, let's give these babies a chance at life that would be
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something meaningful.
Right.
Versus just this thing of just understanding the bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
We just gonna push bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, negative, negative, negative, negative.
Our basic, basic, basic, basic, basic.
Exactly.
And not sky's the limit, sky's the limit, sky's the limit.
You can be better than me, you can be better than me, you can do better than me, you can
do better than me, you can achieve it, you can achieve it, you can do anything you put
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your mind into.
I'm saying these words because that's what a lot of our black kids don't hear and our
black generations don't hear.
So we need to push those things, those words out more to our generation, man.
That's how I feel.
With all of the talk, with all of the straightforwardness, hopefully you all have a better understanding
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and mentality of what it is to educate.
Yes, we need to be educated in our older generations, yes.
But as well, we need to be on top of it for the next generation.
The only way they gonna get there is if we planting things in them to help them get there,
just like how they did with the Rosenwald schools.
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These were planted to help black children, to make them better, to give them a life better
than what the parents had or anything to that nature where it was the generation before
them.
That past generation was trying to make it better for the next generation.
Now that we've gotten to this now, in this term of generations, we've switched that total
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aspect, and it needs to go back to how it was in that light because these babies need
it.
They need to know what's right from wrong.
Y'all loving to teach that wrong, but when you gonna teach that right?
So for the case of we appreciate the black history that we've been absorbing, we appreciate
it.
Not even just y'all.
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We're educating ourselves as well.
That's something that we've been tuned in to doing and we're gonna continue to do that.
But again, we've come to another end of another great episode.
We hope that, again, that you learned it.
Nothing else.
I'm definitely gonna keep bringing it because I know if I'm learning, somebody else gotta
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be learning.
Facts.
So again, we appreciate y'all.
Y'all feel better coming off the tongue as well.
For real.
Talking this way.
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It's in me.
It ain't on me.
It's in me.
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All right.
Peace.
Yo, it's your boy Quincy Murdock and you're now tuned in to another episode of Not Just
(00:07):
Music Podcast where we keep it real and honest, always.
What's going on everybody?
Not Just Music Podcast, Dwarne Burrino, Quincy Murdock in the building as always.
How's everything sir?
Everything good.
We been hitting them, hitting them, hitting them, hitting them, hitting them with these
(00:28):
last episodes man.
I've been feeling it, you've been feeling it.
I hope the people are feeling it most and definitely, you know, we just here to spread
the word man and wake the people up.
They're asleep and it's something that's woken.
We encourage the woke ones to spread it also, the knowledge they have.
How you doing man?
Excellent.
No complaints here.
We want to be educated and give educated thoughts on black history.
(00:59):
2024 is definitely a year that we definitely need to understand that a lot is definitely
going on in the black community and the black community has failed the black community in
many ways.
Right.
One, I'm still digging into the case of, as I say, education.
(01:23):
If we didn't lack education so much, we probably could be in a bigger space with each other.
Right.
We don't look at equality the correct way and I'm speaking of equality amongst our own
community.
(01:44):
One way, just look at how upset and how angry people are.
We're just the common people.
Let's say the common people, look at how upset the common people are with one another.
Right.
And this is, this again, I've already spoken on togetherness.
(02:07):
The reason why we lack the togetherness, I think it really starts with the children nowadays.
If we can't teach the children the correct way by the time they become adults, they're
in a different position, they're in a different space and mindset is all over the place.
But the reason being is that way is because they learn to be a certain way for their,
(02:29):
basically their entire lives.
So one reason I'm saying this is because, like I said, I've been sticking to the Rosenwald
schools.
The Rosenwald schools to me were one of the biggest pinnacle points in the South at helping
raise, educate and help the black child.
(02:58):
I speak from a place of wanting black people to recognize the space that we were in then
versus now, always to show what they had versus what we have.
Again, we're one of the most blessed, we're in one of the most blessed situations considerably
(03:19):
if we're going to weigh, compare this era to that era.
Yes.
Well, white people let their history be known though.
They let-
We don't let ours be known.
They roll it out on the red carpet.
Like teaching.
Like you say.
They roll it out on the red carpet in white America, bro.
We got the same choice and option.
(03:40):
They roll it out like it's-
Don't get me wrong.
And it's not wrong for them to do it.
It's not wrong for them to do it.
Like it's not wrong for us to roll ours out on the red carpet.
You know?
Nope.
And we just choose to just say that we're not going to do that.
Oh, we ain't got no opportunity.
We want to stick on the bed.
And if one person has to say it, it's always going to come out of the person's mouth that's
(04:04):
going through it.
So let me give you something.
Let's start off by saying it is not just Black History Month anymore.
Let's start there.
Let's start by saying it's something to talk about that has to do with black history all
of the time.
(04:24):
It just gets, again, it gets mixed up and it can get easily swept under a rug and forgotten
about very quickly.
It's due to because it's not praised.
Now let's make sense of it.
Again, sticking to the Rosenwald schools, I found another one.
This one is called Pine Grove School.
(04:55):
Built in 1923 is the last remaining Rosenwald school in Richland County.
Through funding secured from the South Carolina Community Competitive Grant Program, Richland
County Conservation Commission and Lowes Charitable and Educational Preservation Fund through
(05:17):
the Richland County Recreation Foundation and Commission has worked diligently to restore
the school to its original configuration and successfully created a historic community
gathering place.
In 2009, the school received its national register designation and just recently received a historic
(05:42):
preservation award from the Historic Columbia Foundation.
Now let's pause for a second just so I can always explain this.
If you don't know, the, let me make sure I say this the correct way, national register.
Again, that's what I'm basically speaking about episode after episode.
(06:06):
Every historic landmark, if it's done the correct way, there is a marker that sits in
front of a building or a house or a something to the whatever the case of it is, is being
displayed and it explains and breaks down the details to what the situation or what
(06:29):
it makes it history or why it is history.
Pay those attention, pay them attention.
Even if it's the case of you're riding by a place and you see one, get out and look at
it.
It's got nothing to do with black history.
You don't even know it.
I see a lot of them too.
You do.
(06:50):
It's crazy how many- You think it was just a sign.
Yeah, you would think that it's just a sign.
Like it's just a sign, bro.
Bro, I done passed it for years.
These are gold, like you said.
40 years old, bro, and I'm just not making sense of those.
I'm ashamed of myself.
I am.
I am.
I'm 40.
Like the history, the history right in our face and we just ride right by it.
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And again, that's why a lot of this stuff is getting thrown under dirt now.
Bulldoze to the ground.
I'm glad we called it before it dies.
You know what I'm saying?
We got it in the craziest things.
You feel like that's the one thing that I wish we could finally get a hold of.
Just like what America does with their monuments and their figures and all of the stuff they
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feel should have this historical mark, they protect it with their life.
They do.
And it's not their fault.
Like I said, it's our fault.
We don't push them the same thing.
Thank you.
Because I thought that we don't do the same thing.
Just like with schools.
We got a lot to talk about and brag about as we been doing.
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If we don't say nothing, just like if we don't say nothing again.
If we don't say nothing, how are we ever going to get to that point where it'll be looked
at as gratified or that was gratification to look at that.
If nobody says this, bro, all they're going to talk about is the negative and black blacks.
That's all they're going to talk about.
If nobody says this and it takes somebody or a few to have to stand for something and
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get behind somebody that's probably pushing the same narrative for people to be like,
wow, okay, I see another light in it.
It's a different perspective of that race, that person, that human, that culture.
This is again, when will we be respected for being us?
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When we respect us.
Hear that?
When will we be respected for being us is when we respect us.
Nobody is going to force us to go talk about the topics that we talk about.
Again, y'all are quick to go look at, well, did they find anything else on Diddy?
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Let me go see if they found anything else on Diddy.
Y'all are going to look for that, but it won't even take the time to even look and see who
your great, great granddaddy was.
I'm sorry.
Or your great-grandma.
God.
Or your great-uncle.
Or your great-great-great-uncle.
Or anybody that follows your history, where'd you come from?
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You know what I'm saying?
Where did you come from?
A lot of the times, it's like I said, that was simple to find it.
The Rosenwald schools, we can talk about that all for the next month and we still wouldn't
be done.
You know what?
I don't even want to mention Diddy name.
I think Diddy get more, every time we mention his name, he's getting more power.
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So I don't even want to say Diddy no more.
Because honestly, that's all people would get from an episode if we pushed it, if we
put that out because it's so toxic that we forget what's important and misconstrued what's
important.
You take your mind off of something good, that's the whole entire point.
You're absolutely right.
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The more we roll into something to give something more power, we'll never get to the point of
where we're actually effective.
Just like the whole situation of schools.
And this is Rosenwald school, I know this is the case of, was to do something for the
black community and the nature of that.
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As we spoke on the last episode with the churches that help, right?
Now let me ask you this question.
With as many black communities as this in the world, in the US, and let's not even just
fine tune it, with all the communities that are in America today, right?
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Even if five neighborhoods from each city came together, and I'm talking, came together
in something in the situation of black, right?
Come together to create a situation, let's say this neighborhood is going to have fun
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night every single Friday.
Just nothing but black people.
They pull up to have fun night, not on nothing crazy, something that's educational, that's
built to help versus wreck us.
Meaning, you pull up and it ain't going to be like a whole bunch of alcohol, it ain't
going to be drugs, and that's what we need to get to.
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And I'm sorry to cut in, but I remember Tupac was doing something like that, where his creation
of Thug Life, for example.
And one of the things where we don't sell drugs, so we don't have drugs around when
kids are getting off the school bus destinations, we don't have drugs, we don't sell dope on
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the streets or nothing where the kids are.
It was all about, that structure he had was like a black structure, I think the old modern
had.
Tupac was ahead of his time.
So the way that he was educated, and he didn't want gang banging to be showing the kids,
it was all about kids.
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So like you say, the thing of it is, and a lot of black people say this, like, oh, we
just got together to have a good time.
The event that I had just came from.
But it was kids out there, it was smoking going on, it was drinking going on, it was
guns, people toting guns out there.
So if you really, why can't we eliminate all that and still have fun?
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Thank you.
Why can't we wait and smoke and drink when we get home to ourselves and stuff?
Why we gotta do it in public?
Because you know what?
Let's confuse the enemy, let's confuse the races that's out there, let's confuse them
and be like, they rolled through and they can't find no gun on us when we having fun.
So they just have to keep riding.
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We ain't breaking no laws, sir.
You know what I'm saying?
Ain't no alcohol out here, ain't no weed out here, ain't no guns out here.
We just listening to music, having fun.
See that, but the white people know how to do that.
They know how to eliminate the drugs and the alcohol when it's convenient to them and the
police.
So it ain't about a black or white thing, it's about a smart thing, being smart.
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You know what I'm saying?
And being accountable for who you are.
And knowing, being prepared.
That's what I think Tupac was pushing also.
Handle, be prepared for what you can control.
If this cop roll up on me, am I dirty?
Am I not dirty?
Am I clean?
That's the personal decision we all make, is what we do.
So my mentality, and this is mine, and I'm going to be honest, with most of the, like
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you just said, most of the black community, right?
We bring these kids around, right?
And I was already talking about educating them.
Think about that.
You got a gun out, you just sitting there with a gun out.
Or you sitting there, you smoking a blunt.
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Or smoking a cigarette.
Or drinking some alcohol, got an open container or whatever, right?
You out here just living your best crazy life, right?
A kid get a hold of that.
A kid just roll around, just say an alcohol bottle just sitting there opening.
He just roll up and grabbing it and start drinking it.
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You can create a habit right, starting from right there.
Bro, you ain't see where the kid took the edible brownie or some candy to school.
He thought it was candy.
And that it was due because the parents had it.
So what you think is not harmful might turn out to be harmful and hurt the generations
to come.
Our actions influences the generations to come.
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Like, long story short, that's what we saying.
Your actions destroy, and this is another thing, the people that's against it, when
you get around these people, don't encourage it.
Like, nah, put that smoke over there, that ain't good.
But now you have older generations that just want to blend in with the crowd.
And even though it's wrong, so that's where the problem is.
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So who are our kids looking up to?
If we have everybody wanting to fit in, nobody wanting to correct the wrong behavior, like
and who would the kids look?
So they looking at it as like, okay, this is cool.
Okay, I'm going to do it.
That's why it comes to people like us to stand for something.
You got to stand for something.
There ain't too many black people standing for something now.
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You know, ain't nobody want to stand for something.
Listen to what you just said.
Now if the community, I don't know, as I just pointed out with the school, if the communities
don't come together.
I got the solution.
Like, word.
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I got the solution, brother.
What you really, what you mean?
You got to-
No, like how I think I just, like what I just broke down, like how, you know, you should
eliminate the guns and no selling drugs on the corners because it's kids getting off
the bus stops right here.
You know what I'm saying?
And you know, we going to clean up our neighborhoods and our environments and stuff like that.
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So yeah, I think I got the vision.
And like I said, you know, like I'm talking to some people.
This is the part that I want, that's the part I want heard because a lot of times we got
to clean up our own.
We make these community events and we put these community events together and we just
out there doing all kinds of wrong things to the point where you can't even focus on
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the things that are doing, that's going on that could be considerably right.
And it's not, and it's not, and it's not, and my thing is it's not wrong for you to
do it on your own time.
Personally, I don't smoke or drink, but I don't judge nobody.
I never have because I don't like, I don't want them taking control of me to be honest.
I, it's just, I'm against it.
You know what I'm saying?
But if you're going to do it, do it on your own time.
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And then also don't do it in front of your kids.
Don't do it in front of these kids and, and don't sell drugs on the same corners and pollute.
You're killing your own people in your area, in your territory.
When you selling these drugs, like you have to think about it.
You're selling these drugs off a profit of just some small money that you going to run
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out of.
So it, so think about this.
If you love your black people that much, why would you kill your black people and give
them this poison?
If you love your black people, if we love black, as we say, we do look at yourself and
ask yourself, what are we doing to help our community, our people, and what are we doing
to destroy our black people in our community?
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Oh boy.
Once you start putting yourself, that accountability, you put them in people's hands.
You put these pieces together and start taking accountability that change the likes of what
you going to do.
Your likes, the likes of what you would do would totally change if you look at what considerably
is accountable.
Just like you said with kids, if a, if a, if a mom is sitting up, let me just go, let's
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go deeper.
If a parent period is sitting up here doing something that they're, I ain't even, let's
not even say what they ain't supposed to be doing.
Let's say period, but if you're just sitting up here doing something in front of your child,
if you think that your child ain't going to pick up what you're doing, you have been totally
mistaking yourself.
I wouldn't even dare smoke in front of my mom if I was a smoker.
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I wouldn't, I would have the respect not to even do that.
Some people don't feel, yeah, some people don't feel respect is, is, is should be given
anymore and that's like what I say with these schools.
And we need to clean that up, man.
Yeah, these schools respected what they put into a child, what the youth generation was
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about.
The morals was different.
They, they wasn't worried about what they selves was.
I mean, you know, smoking, I mean, we can't even afford to smoke.
We can't even afford to drink, you know, and even if it was a case of they could afford
to smoke and drink, look at the positions that they were putting their kids and their
families in at that time with all of the stuff in this, all of the struggles they were going
on.
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The benefits of it though, what, do the benefits outweigh the benefits, do the good benefits
outweigh the bad benefits of smoking and drinking.
You gonna spend a lot of money on it.
Yep.
It's gonna take all your money.
History has shown most devs, people were intoxicated, you know, with marijuana.
Most of them were high when they got in situations.
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Controlled substances.
Are arrested, made that one bad decision, quick decision.
They were, they were not in their right mind.
They were intoxicated.
They were, you know, with drugs or alcohol.
So look at the history, you know, that what is it, is it causing more harm than positive?
Ask yourself that.
I think it is causing more harm.
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It causes more harm.
Your body can only take with so much.
And again, the more, the more you put on yourself, the more you putting on your body, the easier
likely it is to that you're going to end up hurting or killing your own self.
And you just temporarily erasing the pain, you know?
You still gotta, you get to the root of the problem.
And that's the thing with black people.
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We gotta get to the root of really what the problem is, you know what I'm saying?
And stop covering up, like covering up the history, like how we want to reveal the good
things.
We gotta keep it real with our people on the bad things we need to correct too.
Because then it will grow and make the black community even better.
But you can't grow something if you don't point out the bad things of the, of the, or
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the bad things of those people or that individual or that race.
You have to be honest, you know what I'm saying?
Correction is only there to help.
You feel me?
And that's, that's why we are taking control of little by, I mean taking control of things
little by little.
They're gonna get it soon.
The only way it's gonna get done is if somebody keeps giving it in the nature of giving it
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in a way of, okay.
I think it's working.
What can you give, what can you give to your community?
Just as these schools where these people were trying to give something to have, what are
you giving to your community that's going to help the next generation be great or better
than this generation that we're in?
Or you know, let's give these, let's give these babies a chance at life that would be
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something meaningful.
Right.
Versus just this thing of just understanding the bad, bad, bad, bad, bad.
We just gonna push bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, negative, negative, negative, negative.
Our basic, basic, basic, basic, basic.
Exactly.
And not sky's the limit, sky's the limit, sky's the limit.
You can be better than me, you can be better than me, you can do better than me, you can
do better than me, you can achieve it, you can achieve it, you can do anything you put
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your mind into.
I'm saying these words because that's what a lot of our black kids don't hear and our
black generations don't hear.
So we need to push those things, those words out more to our generation, man.
That's how I feel.
With all of the talk, with all of the straightforwardness, hopefully you all have a better understanding
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and mentality of what it is to educate.
Yes, we need to be educated in our older generations, yes.
But as well, we need to be on top of it for the next generation.
The only way they gonna get there is if we planting things in them to help them get there,
just like how they did with the Rosenwald schools.
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These were planted to help black children, to make them better, to give them a life better
than what the parents had or anything to that nature where it was the generation before
them.
That past generation was trying to make it better for the next generation.
Now that we've gotten to this now, in this term of generations, we've switched that total
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aspect, and it needs to go back to how it was in that light because these babies need
it.
They need to know what's right from wrong.
Y'all loving to teach that wrong, but when you gonna teach that right?
So for the case of we appreciate the black history that we've been absorbing, we appreciate
it.
Not even just y'all.
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We're educating ourselves as well.
That's something that we've been tuned in to doing and we're gonna continue to do that.
But again, we've come to another end of another great episode.
We hope that, again, that you learned it.
Nothing else.
I'm definitely gonna keep bringing it because I know if I'm learning, somebody else gotta
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be learning.
Facts.
So again, we appreciate y'all.
Y'all feel better coming off the tongue as well.
For real.
Talking this way.
It's in me.
It's in me.
It ain't on me.
It's in me.
Yeah, it makes you feel better.
But again, we're Not Just Music Podcast.
Subscribe to our website.
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If you're really locked in with us, go there.
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if you come back again next Thursday at 8 o'clock.
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So again, I'm Duann Barrino.
Quincey Murdock in the building as always and we will see you next time.
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Duann Barrino from Not Just Music Podcast.
Make sure you stay tuned for next week's episode.
All right.
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