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What's good word? This is King Arthur and this is
not my brother's Keepers podcast, a true crime podcast
about black dudes who kill. And I have a special guest today
and it's more like a Co host because it's going to be on both
sides. It's going to be on my show and
it's going to be on hers. But I will let her introduce
herself and get it rolling now. Who are you now?

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This is your favorite country girl.
You know who it is representing the new ordination over here
with that Melanin Mayhem podcastbaby and today no one nation we
kicking it with the king baby, we're taking it to the king.
Yo, my brothers keep the podcast.
So make sure y'all show my boy some love.
You say y'all know I like you know, huh?

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Go ahead Boo. I said we good, let's go.
We back at it y'all honey? You know, I like a good old
historical case to illustrate mypoint that serial offending has
been going on since the beginning of time and today
we're going to take it back to the roaring for this honey.
I'm about to blow the dust off acase that happened some 8 four

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years ago and it's still just asrelevant today because this
week's was like the great granddaddy for the serial
offenders of today's time. And just like our perps, this
raping, killing motherfucker wasdescribed as a soft spoken
gentle. Never to think that somebody

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would do something like this. That should sound familiar.
You don't, huh? Well.
It's. Not spoken gentle ass.
He liked to also have sex with corpses, so there's that.
What the fuck? That sounds familiar.
We know a couple of strange birds like that.
This *** was perverted. So I'm gonna bring this *** to

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the front of the congregation. This sweetheart of a serial
killer with a taste of embalmed coochie.
I bring you this week's Melon and Mayhem makeup.
Mr. Jarvis cut out. Now, this was the 40s, so, you
know, we don't have a lot of background information, but
that's OK. We picked up on Jarvis when his

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story was getting good. You see, what we do know about
Jarvis is that he was a undertaker's assistant.
That's what they called the Funeral Home people back in the
day. So he was quite accustomed to
being around dead bodies all day, every day.
If you ask me, he was a little too familiar with these dead
bodies, if you know what I mean,Right?
You see Jarvis, apparently he know what to do with him, but

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what he was supposed to do with him, he wasn't doing right.
He was doing a little extracurricular activities,
right? He liked to put his meat inside
a dead body. Who the fuck do that?
Like for real King Arthur? The *** was crazy, right?
Man, he was, he was. He was worried about the wrong

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hole man. I'm saying, I guess if he could
get none in front of living, he ain't have to worry about nobody
fighting him back. You know what I'm saying?
He could do what he want to do because they weren't going to
give him no pushback, right? They weren't going to be pushing
back, man. You want.
A little fight in it. I don't get, I don't get it.
That's why I never understand rape.
Like bro, I wanted to fight backsexually, not physically, ***

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Not physically. Not physically.
I want us to enjoy this, you know what I'm saying?
We need to work up a sweat together pleasurably, you know
what I'm saying? Yeah, he sound like.
He, and most of all, I, need my *** to have a pulse.
I don't know about you, but I need a pulse.
You know, a heartbeat. Exactly.
Well, when the Funeral Home found out that old Jarvis was

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gonna did desecrate needs corpses, they fired that ass and
that's good on the part of the Funeral Home.
Glad that somebody was taking care of business Jarvis.
He decided that he was going to keep on doing what he knew how
to do, which was fuck with dead bodies only.
And at the time he decided that he was going to switch over and
he was going to make these bodies dead, right.

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That old Jarvis was a sick puppybaby.
Now this is the 40s, remember? And the nickname that they gave
this *** was the sex goo. I guess that was some cold shit
in 1941, right? Yeah, yeah.
So now. We just call you a nasty
bastard. Perverted motherfucker.

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You know I love a good motherfucker in some kind of
way, right? Jarvis's MO was the hunt.
These women that lived alone andrented out rooms and he would
pose as a renter and when they would let him in to come look at
the room, he'll put them hands on them.
And once they was subdued, he would strangle to death.
Strangle them to death and then rape them and then leave them
where they were. Now, this is the 40s now.

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So the only thing the police really had to the at their
discretion to use to help try tofind these perpetrators were
fingerprints. Well, Jarvis didn't leave no
goddamn fingerprints and he didn't drop a monogram
handkerchief talking about Jarvis Kotok on it, you know
what I'm saying? So that was really out of loss
as to who the fuck was choking the life at these damn women.

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Honey, let me tell you something.
According to his own testimony, he went about finding these
women again that were alone renting out these rooms or that
they wanted somebody to do some handyman work.
You know, we all need a good handyman around, right?
Yeah. He coming out like a maintenance
man. It's the Fortis, you know,
they're catching my side. You know how to go to do

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plumbing. Can you can you lay these floors
down for me? You know what I'm saying?
And he would be like, yeah, anything you want me to do, I
know how to do it. And then he would go in and do
what he actually do when he do what he do.
Again, a sick ass puppy. Now his first four victims were
black women. We had 65 year old Florence

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dancing. She lived on L Street.
Now this is I'm sorry, this is in Washington, DC, right?
Our nation's capital. He was riding a showing up.
So Miss Florence cop that cop them hands on April 12th, 1935
and again he strangled out and then raped them.
But you know, we're talking about about black women right
now. So there was an outcry in the

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black community, but you know, the white folks was like we'll
let y'all handle that. Whatever, you know what I'm
saying? It's just moving on, moving on.
So what is that? Sound like a me problem to me
then? And these are not young women
now. Florence was 65.
His next victim was 62. Late night.

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Lucy Kidwell, right? She caught them hands September
28th, 1949. It was a beautiful break 'cause
he did his first one in 1935, laid low for like 5 years and
then popped back out on him in September of 1940.
Same. No motto.
Come in, squeeze him out, fuck him out and dip out.

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We used to be laughing at this. His third victim, just a slight
bit younger, was 48 year old Maddie Stewart.
Same MO come up in a crib, strangle her out.
Raped her on November 28th, 1940.
So the *** did too. He was kind of back-to-back.

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You going to see that? There's a kind of a quick
progression because his neck, his next one was only three, two
months later when I ate a puller, 21 years old.
She was a little hottie, young thing, you know what I'm saying?
Sprite and whatever and she onlylived a couple of houses down
from what Maddie caught them hands.
He did up here on January 22nd, 1941.

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So at this point we got 4 black women who have all died the
exact same way. Same MO.
Police know about it, but it's only the black community members
that are actually trying to figure out who the fuck is going
around here killing these black women, right?
Well, Jobs figured out why I'm gonna keep playing around in my
own neighborhood. I'm going to get me some
different kind of coochie. And the next person who caught

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them hands was a white woman named Rose Abramis.
Now, Rose was 25 years old. She was also a little young
side, right? He got that white meat.
He had had enough dog meat. He was switching over to the
white meat side. And hey, switch UPS is fine if
that's what you do. But understand this switch up is
going to not bring some heat on you because they don't like it

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when the magnesium start coming up missing, right?
I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
So Rose, he kicked up March 8, 1941.
And the thing was there were witnesses.
Rose saw Jarvis on the street, walked up on him and was like,
hey, can you do some handiwork handyman work for me?
And Jarvis was like, of course, I think she wanted some floors
done or whatever, had a couple of plumbing issues that she

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needed took care of. So she brought him in her house,
walked him around and pointed the different things that she
needed him to fix in her house. And so Jarvis is chatting up and
she's married and all. He's like, so where's your
husband? And she was like, oh, he's at
work. He was like, oh big, that's a
suck. That's a good.
So once Jarvis knew that that was going to be alone for a
little bit, you know what he do?Put the paws on her.

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And the next thing you know, Rose is waking up with the cane.
I'm just saying. I'm just saying now he stayed in
his vein. Now King the King, take me to
the king. Then on June 15th, 1941 he
catches another snow Bunny. This time this woman was Jesse

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Stipe. Caught that quick squeeze stick
and go. Now at this point, 2 white women
in Washington DC have been fucked over by somebody.
They've got eyewitnesses that said that these women was around
a black man before they untimelydemise.
So you know, the police is like Oh no, no, no, no, no.
This is priority number one at this point.

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We must find who this black man is, right?
Well, funny thing is, it wouldn't be the DC police that
actually caught Jarvis. It would be the New York City
cops that that caught Jarvis because he decided to take that
thing on the road. He goes up to New York City
around August 1941, again renting a room.

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This time he rented a room from a white woman named Evelyn
Anderson, again from the Caucasus.
Click right this time this is where he would get caught.
But see, after he did Evelyn in,he robbed them and then he took
the shit that he took from her name, namely her jury, and went
upon that shit. And just like today, when you go

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in the pawn shop to go pawn something, you got to put your
name on something, right? Big red flag.
And Jarvis, I don't know if the elevator didn't go all the way
to the top considering his his proclivities for sexual nature,
maybe it didn't. But he put his full name on the
pawn ticket. So when Evelyn body was found,
they checked the pawn shops and what do you know, he goes some

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Evelyn shit because back in the 40s jewelry and stuff actually
had a serial number on it that could be traced.
You know what I'm saying, 'causeit wasn't a whole lot of that
stuff out of stuff. And they did that shit in like
no time flat. Evelyn got dead on August 24th.
Jarvis Ass was arrested on August 28th.
Please believe they had caught that ass.
Sir, you. Come with us.

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Bring yourself over here. Bring your horny ass on you
because we got some questions. We have questions that only you
can provide the answers to, right?
So this August 28th, 1941, they got Jarvis yoked up.
You know what I'm saying? And that we already said that
Jarvis was a soft spoken, gentleyoung man, you know what I'm
saying? So when he had a police station,

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he tried to play hard for a little bit, but they broke that
ass all the way down. After six hours worth of
questioning, Jarvis was confessing to all kind of shit.
Like all kinds of Jarvis is telling it all when.
I left. He didn't even give him that.
He literally told them what he did, which is crazy as fuck to

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me. Like you ain't gonna make up a
story. Stick with you.
I, I don't know this woman. I just read a rumor from this
woman. I, I didn't know.
But he didn't. He broke down and told it all.
But here's the kicker. He didn't just tell them about
Evelyn Anderson. This motherfucker was telling
them about all kind of shit thathe did while he was in New York.
Come to find that Jarvis been running bitches left, right,

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sideways. Everybody didn't get dead, you
know what I'm saying? So they found out that Jarvis
has assaulted 3 or 4 women in New York.
Well, in the course of his verbal diarrhea, he started
confessing to the shit he did inWashington DC and New York was
like, well wait a minute, hold. On look what they do.

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He asked for nothing, he asked for a lawyer.
And I don't know, in the 40s if that was even a thing for black
people, you know what I'm saying?
Could you literally go in there and be like, lawyer, please?
I'm gonna do my right to stay silent 'cause he didn't think
so. This *** told it off.
Slap the shit out. Of him.
But that's the crazy thing you gonna find out that they made

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sure to point out that they didn't do nothing to his ass.
Now Jarvis told them that, you know, Evelyn gave him that watch
as a gift. You know what I'm saying?
But come on, Jarvis. You know, in the 40s, white
women couldn't give nothing to a*** But a hard way to go that's.
It. Like that's it period.
Come on now, Emmett Till, come on, don't play, play, don't

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play. But again, he he's telling it
all. He's just spilling his good
singing this *** singing like the right.
You know what I'm saying? For whatever reason, New York
turns him over to DC because of federal case, which is what DC
was like. Oh, we should get this *** on a
fed charge. You know, fed Trump state every
time, right? And that that was not a pun man

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in the office right now. You know what I'm saying?
Every time this *** he heads back to Washington DC, same MO,
the police get him in the box, they questioning him and this
*** took them like they put him inside of a car and he took them

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to the locations where he had committed these crimes.
Who do that? Can you tell me on a show and
tell tour of his greatest hits? Like they just riding around DC?
Oh, I was over there at her house.
So yeah, I fucked her up over there.
And then he was describing in detail the insides of these

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women's houses. How you know that?
Jarvis did. He at least get a burger.
No, what he got, they took him back to the police station.
They wrote out the confession tosay the way he they claimed he
gave it to him and Jarvis signs it.
But now the police, they were slick too.
Now, they didn't want no issues with Jarvis's arrest, right?

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They didn't want nobody to be coming back at a later date
talking about Jarvis was coercedor beaten or something like
that, right? So guess what they do?
They took Jarvis to the doctor to have the doctor examine every
inch of his black ass to attest that he didn't have no bruises,
no marks of any kind on his body.

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A white doctor. A white doctor.
White, several white doctors. It was like the coroner and like
whatever the the the City Hospital doctor was like they
made sure that like there was a list of people that could
attest. We talked to him.
Hey, Jarvis, has anybody hit you?
No, ain't nobody hit me. Jarvis, has anybody forced you
to do something that you don't want to do?
No, anybody forced me to do anything.

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Jarvis, has anybody mistreated you in any way?
It was so crazy that there was this newspaper, black newspaper
that was actually talking to like the white police officers
and people in charge and they literally act told them that we
didn't have to rough him up. We didn't we didn't have to put
hands on him at all. He gave it up freely.
We. Didn't have to whoop this *** he
was a good one. Basically, I mean you have

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snitching of your own violation baby.
Ain't nobody did shit to you, Jarvis.
Jarvis, you got to learn how to be a better criminal, son.
You got to learn. So again, he's described in
detail everything that he's done, these women's houses, even
down to what they were wearing when he killed them, right?
Dude, you know this ain't going anywhere for you, right?

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Like you should have stayed silent or whatever.
Also, come to find out, in addition to the killations of
them six women in Washington, they also identified Jarvis as a
man that had assaulted some other women around DC, Right.
These women say they didn't die.They were.

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They were attacked, but they didn't die.
Same thing. They say that Jarvis came to
their house talking to them about renting a room and when
they let him in to see the room,he choked them out.
Fucked him up. He fucked with him too, but he
did. I don't know.
I ain't a man, so you know, I don't have a man meet.
But I would think you should be able to tell the difference
between living coochie and dead coochie.

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I mean. That's why I was thinking like
if you fucking a corpse bro. I mean, don't that hurt because
I know you raw dog with them corpses.
Oh my God, You just made me think about something so
terrible. Like, you know, when a person
dies, there is a release, right?Yeah, there's that, that, that
release. You a nasty motherfucker writer,

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You nasty, nasty. The smell.
Oh God. I know that Mortuary was like
man what the fuck is that smell?But at least I would think at
the Mortuary they had already gone through that final release,
you know what I'm saying? So maybe that was, you know,

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they've been washed, they didn'tbombed and whatever.
But these real life bodies, you in real time, you know what I'm
saying? So the minute their life leaves
their body, and I know this is only because I had an animal, I
had a dog that literally died inmy arms.
My dog got hit by bus and I was trying to run back to the house
and she died in my arms and she shitted in my hand.

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Little bit little yorkie. Oh, I cried.
Oh man, when I'm pissed down, ohman, that's the worst day ever.
It was crazy though, but it did.I mean I had heard that that
happened, but I literally saw itin real life, real time.
So I know that when the life force leaves the body, there is
a final release. And Sir, you want to You was

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turned on and aroused still. You know what them chicks that
stayed alive I'm I bet you he was flaccid.
He probably couldn't do nothing with him because they was alive.
Might have been now they, they didn't go into detail because
you know, this is the 40s and everybody is politically correct
and whatnot, but they did say that he attacked them, right?

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So after they had reported theircrimes, what they did was they
put Jarvis in the lineup and thewomen that lived, they had all
of the asses come in and all of them pointed Jarvis out one by
one. That was him.
That was him. That he go.
That *** right there, that's theone who did it.
Was a real lineup. They just grab 5 *** and say
which one of them *** is it? And here in the middle, I'm
gonna tell you right now, here in the middle now, which one of

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these *** did it? You know, in that part of the
story, we will never know. All we do know is that they was
like it was you. And once they pointed him out,
it was ready to it was ready to turn that *** water off.
Absolutely. And I'm going to tell you this,
in the 40s, shit move fast. All that stuff.
Now it takes 2-3 years for a motherfucker duck to go to

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trial. Oh, no, no, no.
Through the 40s, you didn't havethe luxury of waiting years.
Talk about speedy trials and dueprocess.
That shit went fast. And it absolutely went fast,
super fast with Jarvis because they had this *** and I'm
talking my *** with a hard ER. And they had not only put hands
on these women, these white women, because those were the

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ones that they was concerned about, trust and believe.
They weren't worried about them.So black women, they caught them
hands. They was concerned about them,
white women. And not only did you put your
hands on them, you put your penis in the bodies of these
dead white women. Oh, no, baby, they did that ass
quickly and expeditiously. So they don't want.
They don't want. To touch them.

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White women. After that, no, you don't want
to go behind nothing that they know some black has been in.
Oh no, now check this out. So this happened in August,
August 28th is when they arrested Jarvis.
The following month in September, they sent Jarvis for
a psych eval. Not only we're going to make
sure that you can't say that we put hands on you, you also not
going to be able to say that youhad content stand trial that

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never could have been had IQ of -1 They still was going to say
that he was competent to stay attrial.
We know that much right now. Of course, by this time reality
has set in for Jarvis and now hewant to take back.
Everybody been saying, I mean none of that.
They coerced me, they beat me. *** we got pictures.

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We ain't fuck with you. You said you, you on Ruffle
saying that we didn't bother youtoo late and just go fools head
to crazy. I found out they arrested
Jarvis. He was damn engaged to a woman
that lived on stain lock and two, I mean that he had killed

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this one like and she said with Jarvis, she had that he was nice
and gentle and offensive in any way.
But then she also thought, what kind of man?
Man. Ma'am, you think this nigga's a

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Sissy? They were not mine, but you.
You gonna be engaged and and marry this man?
That'll make sense. But it's the 40s.
I'm just saying. It's the 40s though.
But you know, I went as women, we didn't have a lot of rights.
We were still property. We needed a man to stick and
move anywhere, you know what I'msaying?
So maybe she was using Jarvis toget what she needed to get to in

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life. I'm willing to give Elsa the
benefit of the doubt, right? But kind of find out me Elsa was
wrong as fuck about that *** being scared of women because he
was scared. It was quite the opposite,
ma'am. This *** that was gentle and
attentive with you without killing your neighbors, Yeah
y'all talk about it like they what she said they talked about
it when the murders happened andhe was talking about how it was

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a sin and a shame before God, Sir.
Sir *** That's it. Like somebody who will steal
your shit and they help you lookfor it.
And they will. Happens all the time.
Well, in true *** fashion, how about Jarvis?
Also, he wasn't just fucking with Elsa, coming to find out he

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had another chick up the way. So this *** is a whole whore.
He got 2 live women but. He went home.
I guess he had picks and chooses.
I guess when the urge came up onhim, he just had to do what he
had to do when the urge came up on him, I don't know.

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But what I do know is Jarvis Kato went to trial on October
15th, 1941 in Washington, DCA grand jury had indicted him on
10 counts of rape, 4 counts of robbery and five counts of
murder. And the prosecution was seeking
the death penalty. But they only took him to trial
for one murder and that was for Jesse Strife.

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You see, back then they didn't feel like they needed to waste
tax dollars on a whole bunch of different trials.
We get your ass one time. You can't die but once to hell
with the rest of the victims. All we need is this one.
And the envelope is was like, hey, we went to why would you
kidding? We don't really care how you get
to the end point, right? But we all knew that Jarvis was

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going to be convicted because hewas on October 24th of 1941.
It took the jury a whole 18 minutes to reach their very, but
they verdict 18 minutes. 18 minutes and if you went to the
bathroom you would have missed the whole damn thing.
Shit, Jarvis Canto is headed to the electric chair.

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Now. Jaris did have a lawyer in all
this. His name was Mike Shake, and he
did, I guess, try to put up a defense.
He had a court appointed, you know what I'm saying?
Because Jarvis, he was indigent.He had no money.
It was a court appointed. But I don't think the defense
was as strong as it could have been because Mike Shea and his
family was getting death threatsfrom the hood wearing man Asians

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that was not pleased that a white man was defending a
murder, a murdering raping Negro.
Mike had to ask for police protection because they was
going to come fuck his ass, him and the wife and the children.
So I'm sure he was in the courtroom.
He gave a defense, but he ain't trying to stand up for the ***

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to actually get his ass off because, you know, saying Mike
didn't want to be off. Now, I would tell you one good
thing actually came out of all of this.
A wrongfully convicted black manwas freed.
There was a man named James Matthew Smith that had been
locked up for this, for FlorenceDance's murder.

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But since Jarvis confessed to her murder they let James out
and was like man how bad we saw her.
I should have you know, I knew they had picked up another *** I
knew they had picked up another *** I knew it.
Of course, but they let him out,send him on his way.
He had already did like five years, but they let him out.
They didn't. No, it's not like that.

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He didn't get no check from the state, from the government.
No, nothing like that. It was just your ass is free,
don't let us catch you no more, right?
Yeah, don't let us catch you doing not doing some shit no
more. Don't let us catch you not doing
some shit no more. Now, Jarvis Patel's death
sentence was carried out in 1943.
I don't know the exact date. I couldn't find it anywhere.

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But I do know that he did an electric slide right on in the
hill. Now, did he do it?
I think that there's a good chance that he did.
I mean, for me, it was the taking the cops to the homes of
those women who he supposedly killed.
I mean, if he didn't do it, he wouldn't have known exactly what
they stayed, right? There were so many articles

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written by black publications from the time that were up close
and personal with Jarvis. Like he they would go visit him
in the jail and take pictures and he being a bitch, posing and
shit, you know what I'm saying? Just a even spirited man.
So even in those black newspapers, they felt like
Jarvis was the one. So I'm gonna rock with them on
this. You know what I'm saying, Black.
People like, yeah, get that number.

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You we got put it on us. And I'm gonna tell you now why
this case is 84 years old. It's still relevant today,
especially now that boarding houses have become the rage.
I know so many women that have property that they rent out a
room in, you know what I'm saying?
Whether it's the whole house or whatever, and they're renting

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them out to strangers. But you got to be mindful that
all folks say, you know what I'msaying?
I'm just saying, what is the skin?
All skin folk ain't kid. Folk ain't had the same home, so
you got to make sure that you'redoing that due diligence, Ladies
and gentlemen, I have written out these rooms because you
can't get super comfortable and let your guard down.
You need to make sure that you got security cameras everywhere.

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I'm talking about in the plural sense because somebody needs to
be able to see and be seen at all times, if you know, right?
I'm just saying, y'all, serial murder has been a thing.
It's still a thing. And as long as there are humans
on this rock, there will always be a serial offender in the
shadows waiting for some unsuspecting victim.

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All I'm saying is y'all don't know how I say stay.
Stay vigilant and if you stay ready, you ain't got to get
ready. Don't become victim, you know
what I'm saying? Another notch of a serial
killer's belt. Because this shit is happening.
It happening since the beginningof time.
Y'all know? That's my whole point in my
podcast is to make sure that I am dispelling the myth that we

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believe there are crimes that black people don't commit.
We do all that shit. We do it all.
We. Do it all and that for my new
ordination fans and my new fans over at Not my brother's keeper.
It's the story a Jarvis cuts health, a serial murdering
murderer that murdered and a serial dead woman rapper that

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raped. Jarvis, as I'm sure I bet in
that interrogation room they probably still had a gun on him.
Are you serious right here, *** And, you know, they made it seem
like he was just very, you know,how to like to call us well
spoken. So he he he wasn't up in a thug
and I or nothing like that, you know what I'm saying?

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So they didn't feel that they needed to come all aggresses.
You know, they was it was good cop, good cop.
It wasn't a bad cop. You know, long as a cop was in
the room, the bad is implied. Hell yeah.
You know it. You know it.
I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
Now New Orleans. You got Phone King?

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We are often head down to New Orleans and we have a lady by
the name of Anita Johnson. She is.
Yeah. Yeah.
She New New Orleans. I'm trying to get down there
next month. Yeah.
We Anita Johnson has four kids. She has a a Ryan Johnson, a
Joshua Johnson, a Casey Johnson and a toy Johnson who becomes

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rich and famous. Oh, yeah.
But Anita, you know, she's older, so she was a crack baby
and been on crack a long time. And you would think that if your
child grows up and become something, she will stick your
ass and rehab and get you off that crack.
But no, no, there is more crack.How?
Much you supposed to do, you know you smoking with your Mama
straight Get your Mama you got if you got to flip a coin.

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We could afford more crack. We can afford more crack, right.
So as the kids are growing up, you know, she's in and off of
drugs. She's been arrested for these
for for crack cocaine, all this different stuff growing up,
right? But at the tender age of 14, I
told you Johnson, she meets a local rapper who in in my it it

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to me is still the best rapper alive.
Now y'all could mine is going tobe kind of a guess who, because
I'm not going to give you what they're called I'm going to give
you their names their their realname.
Now y'all can figure it out later.
You probably will figure it out by the end, but.
You see the wheels of Turkey. We're trying to figure out the

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best rapper live from New Orleans.
And so they met at 14. And of course, he met on the
side where he started talking tostart kicking it, kicking it
with him. He's growing up.
She gets pregnant. If she ends up having a
daughter, I'm gonna call her RC.Those are her initials, right?

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I know you talking about. I know you talking about and.
You know they got married, it lasted 2 years.
She going to accuse this rich man of cheating?
What man? *** don't broke. *** cheat.
Rich *** don't cheat bro. Rich.
What they don't do, that's a broke, that's broke.
Men do that. I'm saying what do rich *** do

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what they do? It's just called option.
They just go out and make money.I mean, I mean, she fell on my
lap. I mean, hey, what?
I mean, what do you want to do? But Atoya is tired of this shit
and she divorced his rich ass. So that child support is coming
pretty good because he is blown up and he is the biggest, right?

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He is the biggest, right. So around 2011, she, she finds
herself, she does a show with her friend Tamika, right?
You know, it's a reality show and it lasts for a couple of
seasons. But at this point, she has

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already married another guy by the name of Memphis, right?
Memphis, right, is a well known,well known producer from
Memphis. You know she's going to accuse
his rich ass of cheating too. What?
Lady, Why do you think these menare cheating on you?

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What are you doing? Because their penises are in
other vaginas other than hers. That's why they.
So during during this reality show, her mom is still on crack,
but they play it off on reality show as if she's got better and
she decides to purchase her mom a restaurant, right?

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But her mom ain't trying to cookno baked chicken.
She ain't trying to cook no match in.
The kitchen Whipping, whipping, whipping, whipping.
You know she never whipping she know you.
She went to whipping and she thought it was eggs up in this
motherfucker. She saw me whip them and she
thought I was back at it. Right now her brother Casey

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Johnson, now he is pissed at herex-husband who is the rapper.
That why he put us on. We knew him all our life.
He should have put us on. We shouldn't be struggling. ***
you can't rap. To this day this man still raps
and today this you still on Instagram.
Oh man, this is bullshit. Oh man, he could have put us on.

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Oh man, this that and the other right.
So back to the slums they go. Now a Toya Johnson has moved to
Atlanta. That's where she stays.
The rest of the family has took the ads back to the New Orleans
7th Ward. 7th Ward, right, right.
And Ryan and Joshua, on this fateful day, they're just

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telling a mom a we're gonna go smoke.
We gonna head over to Carl's house.
Do you want us to bring you backa little crack?
Because at Carl's house, sometimes she goes over there
and smokes crack there. Now it is kind of crazy to be
like a mom for go pick up some weed.
Do you want me to bring you somecrack back?
Because I'd have been like, mom,I'm not buying you no crack.

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I only got $10. I'm just going to buy A10 bag of
weed. We can't afford no crack this
night. So on July 31st, 2016, Ryan and
Joshua tell their mom ate from the head of the Carl's house.
We should go get us some weed. You know, I need to get high.
I'm broke. So they pulled up to the to the

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trap house and they go knock on the front door.
The man by the name of Antonio Andrew and Antonio Edwards comes
out. Hey, man, what the fuck didn't I
tell your bitch ass if you coming over to get this
motherfucking work, you need to take your ass around back,

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bitch. I ain't playing with you, ***
Aggressive. Yeah, man.
You fucking up, man? You making my spot hot?
You get this a crack house? It's always hot.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Come with the territory. Everybody know what you're doing
over here. Come on.
You got crackheads in front of your spot, but I gotta go
through the back door. They smoking on the porch.

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Now. Antoine Edwards.
His street name is Teezy, and Teezy is the biggest around in
the area. In the 7th Ward.
He got crack cocaine. Peeled quarter brick, half a
brick. Whole brick.
Hey, he got it all and he is moving that shit.
He got workers, he got these flunky ass *** coming over that

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that that are getting taxed because they sister is rich.
So anyway, on this night they don't go around back and he
comes to the door and say man, what I told you *** dog, I say
when you come over here, knock on the back doors.
Why the fuck are you coming to the front right now, Ryan?
Like man, what the fuck is the problem?

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*** it's midnight. Can't nobody see us out here,
man? We know everybody out this
muscle St. Lights, right?
Ain't no St. lights. Especially New Orleans.
I can imagine this is the darkest spot in New Orleans.
So he's like, hey, look man, don't be coming to my don't,

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don't, don't, don't be coming tomy house.
That bullshit. I told y'all take your ass
around back. Don't come to the front door.
And like, man, fuck that. I ain't come to the front door.
Oh, fuck me. You came from Amasha.
You saying fuck me? Fuck me, *** Your mom be over
smoking rocks over here, not mine.
Your Mama be over here doing tricks and shit for for a fix,

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not me, you know you. Can't talk about nobody, Mama,
even when it's true. Oh, that, that.
About my crackhead Mama. I know my Mama on crack.
I know my Mama smoke rocks you. You can even be talking about
Mama like that. Oh, really?
Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, he said.
Nine shots in the car. Damn.

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He has hit Ryan 6 times close range, he is hit Josh three
times close range and two he is on the run.
He is out of there. Now all of a sudden Anita gets a
phone call from Carl, the owner of the crack house because of

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course he's getting the drugs out because he know he is a has
a hot spot and you can't handle dead body in front of the crack
house. So Anita, who is 5 minutes away
makes it over there quick. Now Anita is high right now off
crack. So she was with a speed walk,

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probably even ran, probably flew.
She's a crackhead, crackhead. It's her kids she flew 'cause it
was her kids. We could say that, yeah.
I can go for it. I can go for it.
Oh man, that's hard. Oh, she gets to the scene.
She sees the car. It is 100 *** outside.

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She runs to the car, opens the door, grabs Ryan.
Ryan is dead already. She grabs Joshua.
Joshua says TZ did it, and she starts screaming.
Tony, Tony, you motherfucker, I know you did this.
You motherfucker. You got any more crack?

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So she is screaming, yelling Tony's name.
Tony. Tony, you motherfucker.
Tony, I'm gonna get you for this, you bitch.
Screaming Holland. Everything right?
So now the detectives and the police, they have finally
arrived. Yes, she beats the police.
This is New Orleans. Police ain't went into that
shit. We it's an active scene.
We ain't going we gonna let thatshit die down or let them ***

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just die one or the other. We gonna let them kill
themselves. We ain't got time for this shit.
So in eventually detective Kent arrives, right?
And when he arrives, he sees allthe shell casings on the
sidewalk and it's about a pick up by 8 or 9 cases, right?
And while he's there, he of course, he starts asking
approaching people and people are just walking off.
I mean, I don't know, I ain't see shit in the guy, ain't even

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from around here, man. I was just walking by and I.
Mean nobody, say nothing. We ain't seen nothing.
No, nothing. Man, we ain't seen shit.
We ain't seen nothing, right? So of course tease is in the
wind, but he's really not that far in the wind.
This is his shit. He he got a lot of people that
can hide him who just run off, right?
Run off into the dark, right? So the detectives, they get

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there, they get, they got no answers from anybody, right?
So, so he they clear the scene and they leave because they they
actually, they got nothing from nobody.
Nobody told him shit. And this is 2000. 16 It should
be cameras out there, but not really.

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Just like the streetlights, they've probably been broke.
Oh yeah, they definitely shooting at them and shit like
that. Don't need no extra eyes out
here. So the news has hit that the
famous or Toya Johnson's brothers have been killed on the
streets of New Orleans in the Seventh Ward.

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And this let's then this sets the social media on fire because
everybody knows who this lady is.
But she has to get down there because she's in Atlanta right
now. Right now.
The next day, a lady by the nameof Tori comes into the station
and says, hey, I know who did this.

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His name is teasing. I heard him bragging about how
he killed these people. And she came, she came to the,
she came to the, she came to thestation with the with another
guy, which is her husband. He said, yeah, man, that *** did
that shit. Yeah, man, that's my partner.

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I know he did that shit. He told me he did that shit.
He told me that, yeah, I killed them *** and I'm going to spin
the block and shoot up the funeral too.
He said he *** got to go runningup here talking me what they
what they is and what they ain'tgoing to do right.
And you know he take that too kindly because now this is two
people that said, yeah, he did this shit.

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I know this *** personally. TZ did it.
He the biggest *** over he's selling more dope than anything.
And now I mention these two motherfuckers right here, Tori
and her husband. They got criminal backgrounds
and you know how that go in court.
They can be like, you can't believe them *** They be high
themselves. They sell drugs themselves.
They did this, they did that right?
So of course he got to get, he needs some more witnesses.

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But eventually you have more witnesses coming in because
people want this *** off the street because they could be
next, right? So another lady comes in by the
name of Journey. Journey and her Mama came in.
They're like, yeah, man, the ***TZ he'd been, he'd been bragging

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all night about how he did this shit and bragging about how he
going to continue to this shit back about how he going he want
all these motherfuckers dead forwounding his operation because
he didn't close the shot. Not verbal diarrhea, Yeah.
He didn't close the shot, shot. Now the crazy part about when he
was telling people he was going to kill these *** and when he's
going to kill everybody, he's telling Tori's husband that he's

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going to kill him and shoot the funeral.
His girlfriend rolls up and say hey, man, fuck all that shit.
We getting out of here, we getting the fuck out of here.
We've been head to Atlanta. It's always a woman that got to.
Yeah, buddy, that's not what youwant to do.
Please don't fuck up the funeral.
Please. It's called bloody hell.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Oh, he is pissed. You don't fucked up all my

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money. You don't fucked up the church's
money. Well, actually you've covered
your own money by shooting two people in front of your spot.
Like which one of these things comes other?
Yeah, just stupid. Just stupid at all times stupid.
And then So what? They say you play stupid games,
you win stupid prizes. Oh, of course.

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And a lady by the name of Mashanda showed up and say,
yeah, I heard the shooting and Isaw that *** run down the
street. It's TZ.
TZ known the total Glock. And he let *** know I will kill
you. But at this point you got 4
witnesses have came in and say, yeah, it's that *** TZ.
Now a couple days go by and theyhave finally got enough

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witnesses and enough evidence toget a search warrant.
So they start kicking in trap door.
They start kicking in trap houses all over New Orleans,
everywhere. That *** say he would be right.
And after he kicked in, after the feds kicked in about six or
seven houses, they say fuck this.
Where this *** at? Y'all all be selling dope for

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this *** Y'all all be buying weed and cocaine from y'all all
taking his pills. Who got this nigga's contact
number? Because y'all are junkies.
How do y'all get in contact withthis *** They OfferUp this guy's
phone number, right? So they get so Detective Kent
gets teasy on the phone. He's like, hey, what's up?

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Who this *** is the police? Where you at?
He's like, *** I'm mad. Why I'm mad?
What the fuck you? What the fuck you want?
You like? Well, your name has been
implicated in the murder and youknow what I'm talking about,
son. Do you want to come down to the
station and talk to us about it?Yeah, I'll be down there.

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Where y'all want me? To be, I don't know, nothing.
No, I don't. Know.
My name, my name, I don't know. You probably.
You called me. I'm out of town.
I don't know what you're talkingabout.
No. I'm talking with my rounds.
So TZ like yeah, I'll be down there at 12/12/13.

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Homeboy. TZ is gone.
TZ has already made it. TZ has already made it to
Atlanta if you're not going to tell me.
Orleans, one of the six hour 8 hour drive.
You can get that quick. Yeah, yeah, it ain't that far.
It ain't that far 'cause if I drive to New Orleans, it'd take
me 5. That's five hours. 8 hours is

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maybe going it's yeah, I'm not even in New Orleans in the state
of Louisiana. I am Audi 5000.
Now this is alarming that he is here to Atlanta because Toya
Johnson stays in Atlanta and thepolice have already figured out
that he's in Atlanta with some cousins, right?

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And when when Toya gets the wordthat homeboys headed to Atlanta,
all of a sudden their ex rapper boyfriend, I mean husband, he's
got our security, our security, but not for Toya.
I mean God damn it, not for a Toya Johnson but for the baby

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because he don't give damn. But then his wife.
It's always going to be with me.So if the baby got security that
mean I got security too? Shit what you talking about?
Shit didn't pay. By leaving my side we got
security. Right, right.
So this happened in July, but inMarch of 2017, they finally have

(47:13):
caught up to TZ. They have surrounded the house
and they have kicked in the door, snatched up his cousin and
a homie and they told that they gave them a map to where the gun
was at. *** why do you still gotthis gun?
Why do you still got this gun? And after being threatened with
prosecution for embedding a fugitive because these these

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cousins got criminal charges already, Like there's my thing,
you can't hang around a bunch of*** with Crown because they
gonna do and say whatever the fuck they can to get out.
Right. You know, everybody took their
face in time and then they knew.*** fold, especially lined up
clothes. Oh yeah, because at this point
they telling you, *** was you inon this man?

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Hell no. He just showed up.
Oh, he just showed up and stayed, huh?
Yeah, I mean. OK, now you know what I'm
saying. You know, e-mail he could call.
Man, what you saying say? What?
So they finally catch TZ right? And they get his ass into the
interrogation room, right? And they asked him, do you want

(48:17):
to say anything? He's like, man, fuck y'all give
me a lawyer. He's like, OK, cool, we'll get
you a lawyer. They throw their ass in a county
jail for a couple days and then he is expedited back to New
Orleans where he stands. There.
Oh, yeah, Where he sits there and awaits trial.
And of course, he can't make bail because he just killed two

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people. And he has been charged with
second degree murder. Why second degree murder, you
say? Well, I don't think it was like,
ain't like he just went out there to kill these guys.
He was waiting to catch them. This all happened from a heated
argument, right? Oh, how much weed was they
buying? How much weed was they arguing

(48:59):
over $10 bag? Shut your mouth.
I know. Damn we not arguing about a
dime. It was a dime bag he was trying
to get and he wasn't trying to sell it to him because they did
not knock on the door they were supposed to knock on. *** crack
heads in the front. We smoke.
Was in the back. I know we not talking about no
pillows. Baby, if you don't get on up out

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of here. All of this for a dime bag, Stop
it. $10 I'm thinking he going out there by a brick.
No, it's $10. Come on, at least an ounce, you
mean to say? I mean, two people lost their
lives about a dime bag of weed. Lord, we got to do better.
We got to do better. One thing *** man.
One thing a *** got is audacity.*** you got the audacity to

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knock at my front door of my crack house. *** rules to be.
A dime bag. You want the crack?
You want some weed? To see why Ryan was like, hey
man, is you going to give us the$10 back or not?
*** ain't like we buying a quarter, *** Just give it to me
right here so I can go get high.Do you got any crack for my
Mama? At all.

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At all. He didn't have to open that.
He could have slid out the window a dime.
Look in the mailbox. It's pouring out there, I'm
sure. Right.
So in 2019 when he finally take go to trial, which I have no
idea why it took three years to go to trial.
Because this ain't the 1940s, but it was moving at a fast
pace. At trial, Mashunda got on the

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stand and said she gets weed from TZ all the time.
He's the biggest supplier aroundthat everybody gets his weed
now. Mashunda has already was pending
charges right? She had aggravated assault,
domestic violence, possession ofof controlled substance and a
pistol charge. This bitch was going to jail one
way or the other. Look this bitch they have a leg

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to stand on because after her testimony her ass still was
convicted of all the. Crimes.
Oh, she got a What I'm saying isI hope all that saying 'cause
she got sucked all the time, you.
Got the full ride, Bear. Stop it.
You turn snitch but nothing. Come on, there's no reason at

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all. No reason at all.
No, scratch my back. You don't get up out of here.
You supposed to bend? I ain't seen shit.
I don't know shit and I ain't doing shit.
Right. And then not only that, his
homie Tori's husband, Mr. Williams, he said, yeah, man, he
told me flat to my face, yeah, Ikilled them *** These *** are on
the stand, mention these are ***that's smoking crack, selling

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weed, whooping bitches and carrying pistols.
All understand *** you know you can never go back home, right?
We ain't selling you shit. We not selling you shit, you
snitch ass *** So he gets on to say, yeah, man, that's my boy,
but I love that *** man, what *** You sending me up the river?

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And he said yeah. When I was talking to him, his
girlfriend rolled up and said, man, let's get the fuck out of
here now, Mr. Williams tells gets on the sensei.
Everybody knew TZ did it. He let everybody know he did it
because he didn't give a fuck. He said you want that type of
fear. You want people to know that you
can't fuck around with me. And not to mention this is New

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Orleans. What's the chances of you
getting convicted of a murder when nobody talks?
The issue is the sister is famous and this made this high
profile. So we are coming to get your ass
because this is going to make uslook crazy if we don't, right?

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I mean, you got to think of why should a non the Gideon, I mean,
you know who at your door? So why would you even bring this
kind of smoke? Because this ain't just like no
regular hood shit. You know what I'm saying?
You just to another level because of who they related to
you, who they who who they are associated with.
Exactly, and this is and this goes for all the kingpins.

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Look at big me. He didn't get caught for drugs
until he killed somebody. The murder led the Fed straight
to his dough. Every kingpin, once they start
dropping bodies, it's a whole another story.
Well, you know what? You depend on what they drop.
I'm saying depending on what body they drop, because if

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again, you, you dropping local jokers, you could do that shit
for some gills. But you, you dropping people who
who know some people who know some people, you bring them
trouble, unnecessary trouble to your house.
Yeah, because look, the dude, you know, big meat, he got
jammed up. But you know, the person he
killed was Puff. Daddy's a fucking assistant.
Again, you don't fuck with people who got people who in

(53:47):
place man, when you can do some shit if you fuck with people.
Now homeboys trial on the last only lasted 3 days.
I'm like damn *** your trial lasted 3 days.
It took three years for a three day trial and you had 100.
Three years for three days at all the.
Trial lasted 3 days. They convicted this *** in two

(54:10):
hours. I don't know what they argued
for two hours for. You had all these snitches.
But then again. No, what?
They waited on lunch. That was been on lunch to be
delivered. We ain't leaving here till we
eat. You ain't lying man.
After 12/8 we, I ain't going back out there till you bring me
my damn Chick-fil-A *** extra. Sauce, we get a food.
Man, I told you sweet lemonade, *** This shouldn't got no sugar

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in it. Motherfucker, it's going to be
another *** and killed me. You keep playing with me.
So he was convicted of two counts of second degree murder
and was sentenced to life in prison.
In prison. And after this, of course, a

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Toya Johnson made statements, made posts about how this is
killing her mom, killing her mom.
And I guess it's kind of like speed up the crack because she's
still on crack on crack. I mean, she gotta read double
time. Not that that you need to read
on crack, but I'm just saying itwas already hard and then he's

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lost your boys and then you seenone of them died.
That's a lot. I ain't I ain't advocating to
smoke the crack, but if you're going to need a good reason to
smoke the crack, that's a good read.
Prayers out for the she getting that thing together.
You know what I'm saying? Traumatizing.
That's that's real traumatizing of it.
Damn. So Antonio TZ Edwards will

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forever be in in jail in Louisiana, and that's like the
worst place to be in jail at. Yeah, Angola.
I'm about to say right there, Angola, where they is making
these *** wash cars pick. Down fly.
Yeah, you ain't trying to go down.
You ain't trying to go to jail. I've got the Mississippi oil.

(56:02):
Fucking Mississippi oil. Fucking Louisiana.
You wouldn't Or Arizona. They got them there bullshit
too. Man, yeah, in a toy, Justin.
She did have another show with another lady, of course, Tamika.
And then she also wrote some books.

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And right now, if you check on social media now, she is still
grieving her brothers here and there and she's been married
again. And of course, ex ex baby daddy
is I mean, ex-husband is still the greatest rapper alive.
You know, you probably saw him do his thing in New Orleans a
couple weeks back for Mardi Gras.
I. Don't know he still.
I did the Super Bowl. I'm just.
Like we might not never get thatSuper Bowl out of him, not at

(56:49):
this point. He probably like fuck Super
Bowl. But yeah, that was it man.
Don't don't kill *** in front ofyour crack house.
How can that's like $10. Can we, can we as a a nation
agree to stop doing that? There should be a dollar amount
that it it, it's got to be at least $10 because.

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Yeah, at this point, like at $10, you get like a bunch of
shaking it back, you know? I'm saying they you like bro.
Come. On $10.10. $10.
You fucked the whole world up for $10.
And the and the crazy part aboutLuke, about the $10 a day,
everybody kept saying everybody come to get he's the biggest

(57:33):
supplier around. I would have let them get their
hand, but told them that you can't come back over here.
OK, over. Here you can't.
But you know what? People don't get away.
That's what it is people. You guys get in the way and and
and feel like people can't talk to them and and what?
I don't care. You can sit here and talk to me
crazy all you want as long as you don't put your mother fucker
hands on me. We fine, you know what I'm

(57:54):
saying here get dad's mouth withyou and we can do this thing all
day every day. You just want to be sure you
know what I'm saying go find youanother dope dealer, whatever.
But what I'm not going to do is just lose my whole everything,
my whole entire operation for $10.
I ain't going to do it for $100.I'm just saying this.
Can we do this for some real major money?

(58:15):
You know what I mean? We were moving bricks these the
birds fly S for the summer and they fucked up my operation that
kind of. Everything.
You know $10 ma'am, Why you evenanswering the door?
That's what I want to know. Why you answer?
You supposed to have people thatdo this?
You weren't supposed to be nowhere near around in the
situation. Mention that wasn't even his
fucking house, that was Carl's house.

(58:37):
What the fuck? Carl.
Carl was the owner of the house.Carl was the one who called the
Mama and said hey. Let Carl answer his own door.
Look, that's my thing. That's the point I'm not
getting. It was Carl's house.
Carl called Anita and told him to a your son is outside
arguing. I just heard gunshots.
He didn't even tell him that he they've been shot.

(58:59):
All he said was that he heard gunshots.
And at that point he's getting all the drugs out the house.
He go out there to revive shit. He got the fuck out of Dodge.
But then again, Carl, the owner of the crack house took the
stand too. You got Carl, Tory, Miss
Williams, Mashanda Journey, you got five people that work for

(59:19):
you on the stand, so I don't blame.
His. Man, but but he I know he was,
but well, he was fucking journey.
He said. Yeah, I know TZI know him real
good. Yeah, he probably was paying her
with powder. That's a mess.

(59:46):
I'm speechless. So what you got?
Heard about the story when it happened, you know what I'm
saying? But you know, didn't know the
back story of it all. And I'm just, it's good that
these people lost their lives for $10.
Like it's a life is worth way more than that.
I mean, you just, you fucked up the trajectory of the family.
I mean, there's always going to be a hole that somebody died,

(01:00:08):
you know what I mean? And we know you.
And it's the crazy part. I'm just like you when I heard
the story, I'm just thinking it gets caught or got caught up in
some random drive by shit. Then I go into the store.
He was much bigger. I'm like what?
But I really I really feel like he wasn't just gonna sell them
that 10 bag clean who they who they sister was and probably

(01:00:28):
wanted them to offer more. That's what I really think.
But it's a way to get to that. You know what I'm saying it it,
it's better to keep this as an associate because you never know
what opportunities might come inthe pipeline, you know what I
mean? But to to just do this, like
that's, that's showing your ass for no reason at all, like must

(01:00:52):
be having a bad day. I think this, I say once there's
got to be something more like this, some hoop pedial
cornflakes to make you jump off the porch for $10.
Yeah, that's just crazy. Like the back door I noticed.
I know this street was dark because you got crackheads in
the front, crackheads in the front, you got crackheads in the
front. Crackheads to go around the
back. If anything, the weed people you

(01:01:14):
you weed is good. It's fine.
You could come to the front doorfor this fight.
That's the crazy part. And not only did you have
crackheads that you even let them smoke in the house, in the
house. Is it was the regulations to
this thing they can. Get caught so they can go
full-fledged crackhead inside the house.

(01:01:37):
Even at the car, though, you remember News X City.
Even at the car, you had to follow the rules.
You got to come through certain doors and put your mother right
here and get shit out the slot. But maybe he was trying to get
his Nino Brown on. It was, you know, feeling
himself. I'm gonna sit your $5 ass down
for a while. Make change.
But look, people, this What? Why?

(01:01:57):
Damn, I forgot what I was about to say.
Oh, why? How do you think?
Why? How do you why?
Why did he associate himself with so many people that were
snitches? Because they all was doing
crime. You know what?
Because at the end of the day, St. motherfuckers who I have
doing different doing all the asses and snitches behind closed
doors snitches. I don't give a damn who it is

(01:02:21):
the hardest motherfucker who be on social media timeout fucker
snitches. Let them be in their box.
And these folks talk about this time that they feel to put on
their ass. They start singing like
motherfucking birds. All these *** that go to jail,
they go to jail. You got witness.
Come on now, come on now, confidential informant, all of
them. So if you end the life, you just

(01:02:42):
got to know that's that's some of the complications that come
with that life. The motherfuckers that you
fucking with will turn on your ass.
OK, well. Don't do St. shit.
All my other listeners now, all my other people that came up to
the show, we did a little interview too.
So I'm gonna interview too rightnow.

(01:03:02):
Alright? How did you get in true crime?
Man, I've always loved true crime.
Like I have the girl that sits around and I I got either a law
and order on or some ID channel.You know what I'm saying?
Like I'm almost you trying to dosomething.
What's up? Right.
You're trying to figure out how to kill me, No.

(01:03:22):
I I, I, I think I could do some things and get away with it.
You know, I ain't no killer, butdon't push me.
I I do believe I could pull it off, but I'm more I'm more now
about, I mean, besides loving and crime shows.
I don't know. I I like podcasts, listening to
podcasts and in listening to true crime podcasts.

(01:03:43):
It's just one a lot out there that sounded like that.
We're telling our stories and one of the podcasters podcast
that I listened to, they always had a commercial that was like,
hey, you should be a podcaster. What are you waiting on?
You should do it. You should do it.
And one day I was like, you knowwhat, you're absolutely right.
Let's do this shit. So to help my community, like

(01:04:05):
literally, we truly as black people have this myth that it's
just some shit that we don't do.You hear a crime on the news and
because it's embedded in US, first thing you think, oh, that
was somebody white? No, it quite well could have
been somebody black. You don't know who doing it.
You don't know who doing it but understand we are doing it too
and it fucks us up as who you going to trust?

(01:04:26):
I mean white man pull up on you,your guard is up but a brother
pull up on you skin folk you know what I'm saying?
You more willing to get in the time of day and that might be
the one that did last. Definitely.
What are some signs when you're listening to Truth Crime that
shit is just about to go left? When they say, man, wait till I

(01:04:51):
tell you this shit. Oh, y'all make up my favorite.
Y'all ain't gonna believe what I'm going to tell you, Yeah?
Mine, mine usually is. I'm keeping the baby and I'm
telling your wife who? Oh yeah, yeah, you out of there?

(01:05:11):
Well, OK, that's guys is when you hear somebody say I need to
tell you something. Yep.
She offended I left. Whatever that thing to tell you
is not going to end well. But you know what?
You know what, that you know what the common theme is now
when when a mother fucker is outthere, mostly a guy, I'm going
to tell your wife this is a man telling him this, I'm going to

(01:05:34):
tell. Everybody you gave me first.
I'm gonna tell everybody you like a little Dick on the side.
You know what? I, I, I, I, I, I believe that
there is some absolute truth to that.
You know, this is probably gonnaget me in trouble, but you know,

(01:05:55):
I don't care. Sometimes you, you, when you see
something come across the news or on social media and it just
appears like it came out of leftfield somewhere.
Like what? He kept his they kept
themselves. What?
Not that person. Yeah, yeah, like what was that
like couple maybe a couple months back it was a dude that

(01:06:17):
pulled up to this. He pulled up to this like bikini
car wash and of course he like white women because I lost all
the white women in bikinis with it wasn't appealing at all.
But he pulls up all he got underthe T-shirt.
He ain't got no pants on and he trying to get his challenger
washed. 1 is about to they finnawash his car and he was about to

(01:06:38):
raise hell up in that car. I mean that's that.
That motherfucking steering wheel was going to be sticky as
hell by the time he got done. The lady saw him said hey damn
you get your black ass up out ofhere.
They were white. They told me get his ass up out
of here and it blows up on social media, right?
This guy had just got married, just got married and had kids.

(01:06:59):
Kills himself from embarrassment.
I hate that because I really don't feel like that.
You ashamed of bro? I just drove off but the cameras
was recorded. You know what, it's a lot of
people who don't feel like theirtruth will be accepted because
they put so much stock in what other people feel or think about
them. I think when, if we as a

(01:07:20):
society, individuals can get to a point where you don't give a
fuck about what somebody else say, live in your truth,
whatever your truth may be, it'll take away some of that.
Because if you waiting on society to give you the green
light or to give you the nod that what what you doing that
cool with it, man, You'd be waiting your whole life because
I don't care what it is. Somebody got a problem with

(01:07:41):
somebody somewhere, fuck them. That's my motto.
Fuck them. Social media did that.
Social media did that. That's why people care so much
these days. Yeah, I don't know.
No. Then people go through 100
filters, they'll post a picture and you be like feeling sexy.
Might delete it later in the first comment you fat bitch.

(01:08:05):
Thank you. And Nick, moving on, still do
what the fuck I want to do. I understand everybody doesn't
have the I wish we could get to that point where more people
would put less stock in what other people think.
And even in your relationship, if you like to do some strange
shit, man, let's find you somebody who like to do that

(01:08:25):
same shit or that's accepting ofthat shit.
You know what I'm saying? Because there's a pot for every
lead there is. You just got to find the one.
Stop trying to put a goddamn square in a circle.
You got to find your square. Is somebody that heard that
right now was like how strange you trying to get?
I don't care what how strange you get, if you like to pluck a
chicken before you get your long, it's somebody you

(01:08:48):
remember. That movie Woo.
With some chickens on it that they like.
Shit, let's try you. Remember that movie Woo?
You remember that movie Woo whenHomeboy dressed up like a
chicken? He was like and he's like he
spread them the chicken skins onhis chest and want his
girlfriend to eat it all. She say why the fuck do I got to
dress up like a fucking chicken?You know those people, Furbies

(01:09:11):
is what they call them. It's somebody out there who like
that shit, you know, I don't care what it is.
You weren't the only one that's doing it like you.
They talk stories about like howback in, not even back in the
day, but I'm from the country, so cow tipping and pushing cows
and shit off, but motherfuckers was fucking livestock.
You know what I'm saying? It was a thing.
People did it you. You just acted like you didn't

(01:09:32):
know it when you heard them cowslike the screaming and hollering
in the midnight hour. Come on now, it's somebody just
like you do. Maybe it is you like to do.
You just got to find them. And with the Internet, it's
easier. Yeah, it was.
It was a man out here close to me in Tomball, TX.
He was. He said he would go outside and
this fucking donkey will run away from him.

(01:09:52):
Like all of a sudden, you know the donkey, they're not scared.
He was. Putting that meat too.
Man, let me put a camera out there with the donkey.
His goddamn ranch hand when the donkey's tied up at night out
there fucking the donkey. So now the don't Every time he
come out that damn donkey skid white man.
Saying, yeah, me a phone, the ones that, yeah, I like to put

(01:10:14):
that meat in a hole, period. You know what I'm saying?
Lot of don't care what type of hole it is, as long as it's a
hole. Just saying.
I'm just saying. What do you think has to happen
for black true crime to get pushed further ahead?

(01:10:34):
Because like, of course we all listen to sisters who kill love
them and went to the live show on Apple list.
They had them at 179. And I'm looking at the Apple
list, right? Those were the first.
Well, that was the only black true crime podcast on there on
the true crime part thing. And my thing was when I saw that

(01:10:56):
I'm like, well, take them off, take them completely off that
list cuz you're doing them a disservice cuz you got out of
them 179 cuz they're sitting. I just stopped right there at
them. 179, the 178 just in frontof them.
You got some of them that haven't released episodes in
years, in years. So how are you going to tell me,
Oh, this is a top rated, Top rated off what?
And this thing like the times I contacted because I contacted

(01:11:19):
Spotify, I contacted Apple and I'm like, bro, how about y'all
just make a blue a black true crime section?
But The thing is, if you make a black true crime section, the
white true crime shit or the true crime that they call it,
ain't nobody going to go there to search for that.
Go there to search for that. Their, their views, their
listeners, their plays will go completely down because now we

(01:11:42):
don't have to shuffle through 100 white ones to get to a black
one. They don't want that.
That's true. That's true.
I mean, there, there, there's absolute truth in that.
I think we just have to keep doing what we doing, supporting
our black podcasters and whatever it is that they do,
spreading the word to your cousins and and and putting us

(01:12:02):
in a group chat about all these different, you know, I might not
give a shout out to different podcasters because I feel like
we all can. It's enough at work out here for
all of us to eat. You know what I'm saying?
Each one needs to each one need to spread the word.
You know what? I know what I got.
Hey, I'm willing to share it. And I think much like all
everything else that we do as black people, shit, we got to

(01:12:23):
work 10 times harder, regardlessof the fact, you know what I
mean? You can't put stock in the
awards, you know what I mean? What?
I don't care if it's Grammys, Oscars, Spotify top 10.
They're never going to give us the shine that we need to.
They're always going to stack the Dick against us.

(01:12:43):
Right now, have any of your haveany story you ever told?
Have anybody ever contacted you from that family of a victim?
No, not at all. And it's crazy because I have
reached out on on social media to like family members of my

(01:13:06):
mayhem makers just to try to seeif, you know, we want to talk
about something or whatever. But no, I have not yes yet.
I guess I should knock on wood, had anybody want to come check
me, but you know. If you Oh yeah, I'm I'm I got a
listener. Damn.
I can't. I don't want to forget her name,
but she knows like she here, she's going to listen to this
episode. She's right now.

(01:13:27):
She was going back and forth with them.
I did this story over this guy named it was quite recent.
What his name again? Shannon Johnson right?
Shannon Johnson right He end up killing this dude named Timothy
right in the other day. I go through my messages his
racist ass sisters in my comments trying to dispel the
story. I'm not lady your your brother

(01:13:48):
was a racist and your screen name is Tracy Racy.
Bitch, please you your name is Tracy Racy.
That's your screen name you racist bitch.
She was upset that how I how I portrayed the story like bitch,
this is how the story played outand then I had a listener.
I don't want to mess up her name.

(01:14:10):
She said no, that guy is a racist.
I sold. I gave him EU Haul.
She said I used to work there. He used to come in with a bad
attitude and he did not like black people.
And she gave me all this contextof what he was doing.
And I'm like, lady, your brotherwas a racist and I'm just going
to assume you're one too. That shit ain't you Don't wake
up and say I'm a racist. You, you, you grow into that.
You like, you learn that shit. That's it, man.

(01:14:33):
Right, man? I ain't raised no racist.
Yeah, but his sister was upset. My listeners, they'll check me
from time to time if, if they don't agree with maybe the type
of story that I did. Like I had one that I was
talking about a guy that was wrongfully confused, convicted
of a crime that just was out of left field.

(01:14:55):
They just had to grab somebody. And I, I, you know, for mine,
it's a safe space. Whether you agree with me or
not. We can now talk it about
whatever, but I'm still going todo what I'm going to do.
You know what I mean? Because it's my part.
Thank you and and good night. Exactly, exactly.
They told me this is your picnic.
They can't nobody tell you what kind of sandwiches to bring.

(01:15:15):
Absolutely. And that's how I because I don't
put stock by what other people say.
I'm putting out a quality product.
My my heart is here. This shit happened.
It's real. I didn't, I didn't I, I told it
the way I wanted to tell it. But all of this shit I got
receipts for. So, you know, as long as we're
not lying on people, it is what it is.
Yeah, I actually did a show about this guy named Timothy

(01:15:38):
Shepherd and all his family. All of a sudden I look at my DMS
Shepherd, shepherd, shepherd, shepherd, shepherd, shepherd.
Like what the fuck is going on? His daughter, his daughter was
pissed. She was like, why?
I'm in school right now. I'm going to become a lawyer.
I'm going to get my daddy out ofthis.
And this is. And I'm like, girl, your daddy

(01:15:59):
chopped this lady up and threw it on a BBQ pit.
What are you going to? What?
What are you going to? What are you going to?
What the fuck are you going to fight with?
He barbecued this lady for threedays because he didn't want.
She didn't want. Oh, yeah, He cut up.
He brought her. OK.
I mean, my listeners have heard this stuff.
It ain't funny in a shepherd. My bad.

(01:16:23):
I I know y'all was pissed and y'all still gonna be pissed
because I know these people and they know how to get at me like
by phone but like again this is true crime.
I didn't pull this story to talkabout y'all but this how it
happened. But they was pissed anyway.
He's dating this chick. I can't remember her name.
I look I forget a lot of my story at this point.
I'm almost 200 in. But I'm trying to get like you.

(01:16:44):
I can pretty much though I used to like go back and listen to my
cases. Now they should just run
together. I just willing to see a name, a
little bit of details and then Ican go back into it.
Anyway, his chick, his daughter,I mean his girlfriend goes to
A&M. He's old bum ass *** right?
She comes in time one day because she's A&M on a
scholarship. She comes home and to break up

(01:17:06):
with his ass on spring break. But he was like, no, ain't no
breaking up with me. So he brings her back to his
house because she was living here in one time and she was it
was portrayed in the media that she was a very good student.
She was a stand up child in thisstand.
The other. But I also talked to some of her
classmates. That's why I like when I run

(01:17:26):
into people that know stuff. The classmates say, man, that
girl was raising hell and she was doing this doing that
everything under the sun. But she was smart, got a
scholarship texting him and she came home.
She like, I don't want to be up there no more because that ***
he was taking a little trip fromfrom Houston to texting with
it's about it's not far, maybe maybe less than a couple hours.
But he goes up to Texas A&M. He's fighting people on campus.

(01:17:48):
He's checking her. Why you answer your phone?
Oh, I thought you had class at 12.
Why you not in class? Like questioning her about her
daily life at college. Like he know anything about it.
Mention he's a grown man. She's 18, he's 26 and he had
been dating her two years. *** what?
So she comes home, they're supposed to go to.
I forgot which festival was happening in Houston.

(01:18:08):
She was supposed to meet up withsome friends, right?
And she told him, hey, I'm goingto ride over here with I'm going
to ride with him. Timothy Shepard.
I'm going to go back to his spot.
I'll be back later. I'm going to meet you like the
festival, right, man? He gets her there.
He chokes her out, chop her up, throws her in the garbage
disposal, throws some in the bag, throws some in the damn
tub, throws on the BBQ pit, BBQ pit and burns her ass for three
days. And he and then he didn't have

(01:18:29):
enough space to barbecue her allat one time.
So he goes on to his next door neighbor, knocks on her door,
his door borrows his a little smoky, but he has the bigger one
puts on the patio. Now he got two pits rolling and
he had these bitches smoking fortwo days, right?
And the next door neighbor was concerned.
He was like, hey bro, every timeI BBQ I'll invite you over and

(01:18:51):
you've been barbecuing for two days.
You ain't invaded me to this shit.
Oh no, man, I'm this is a catering gig.
What a three day catering gig? *** you ain't barely got a job.
So he barbecued him for three days, right and just gets rid of
the body, gets rid of everything.
He good, right. So her mother gets concerned
because the friends are telling me we saw her last with Timothy.

(01:19:12):
The mother didn't want him, her with Timothy, right, because the
*** was a bad actor in and out of jail, beating, scratching
everything to it. He's abusive and he's old age.
I don't do that in there for statutory a long time ago.
But the police show up and they get there and when they get to
the to his house, they even findpieces of meat all over the
place and he tells them no. I went hunting and I like

(01:19:35):
dismembered it in the sink. I mean not in the sink in the
tub in the bathroom. So it was meat over there.
It was meat in the garbage disposal.
It was 2 pits that was still hada had a crazy smell like he was
burning tires, but it's burning flesh.
But anyway they kicked his ass and he end up getting life.

(01:19:55):
He tried to play crazy. Crazy stick.
They, you know, telling me you ain't crazy.
Listeners, that ain't listen to it.
If y'all want to go look at thisstory, it's called Timothy
Shepherd. It's one of my early shows, but
yeah, yeah. We're going to take a look at
that newer nation. We got to go see who was
throwing it, even a grill. Yeah, man, he burnt it up, man,
he burnt it up. I mean, it took three days.

(01:20:16):
And like those grills that it's not, it's not like a, it's not
like how you cremate it. So.
You need a lot of heat to actually burn a body to nothing.
Yeah, that's why they was able to find like bones and shit like
that. Because after that, the parts
that he couldn't get rid of, he just threw in the dumpster.
So they find, they found her blood, they found bones, found

(01:20:38):
her teeth, they found all this stuff in the garbage disposal.
So like he was, he was burning some, he was throwing some down
the garbage disposal. I miss, Yep, I miss that.
Was somebody's child just desecrated?
Oh, just people throw the home, race away, just throw them out.
Just all these killers, just throw them out.

(01:20:59):
They need to go and be put somewhere in a place far away
from everybody else. Like that's just that's that's
diabolical. Diabolical.
What you got going next? I gotta get in the lab and edit
my own episode for this week's podcast.

(01:21:21):
Tuesday, I told you, be Monday where I have to get in and get
it. So it'll be a late night, but
please believe tomorrow the episode will post like it's
supposed to and they're gonna get a little extra extra when
they can hear this one between me and you.
I'm, I'm gonna send it over there so you can, so you can put
it on yours too. So you get double episode.
Absolutely. You know, I let the cat out the

(01:21:44):
bag. I didn't know it was supposed to
be a secret, you know, because they.
Was already telling me they was already telling me to, to get in
touch. I was like I said, I already
reached out. But then like, you know, listen,
I listen to so many different black podcasts, like I just have
to get in order, you know, I'd be like whichever ones had got
released next. I just go through there and when
I got to yours, I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna reach back out.

(01:22:04):
But yeah, but I've been reachingout to.
Somebody rocking with the cane. I'll be trying to reach out
because my listeners always knowwhat's going.
Let me know what's going on. Shout out to all of them.
Yeah, man, the goal for 25 is just to like, No, no, definitely

(01:22:25):
more listeners more. Listeners, more outreach.
We're going to get out here and get y'all some live stuff, you
know what I'm saying? Get some merch.
I hear for you peoples, they want to make sure that you know.
I get a live show, man, I'm cutting up.
Heading up, man, you never know.We've talked about some things,
you know what I'm saying? I think we can make some big

(01:22:48):
things pop out for 2025. Not to mention the weather
getting right. We want to be outdoors.
What y'all say? No one nation and not my
brother's keeper nation, which Iwant.
Y'all want us to bring y'all a host of live shows with a bunch
of your favorite podcasters giving you what you want?
I think it would be good with like 4-4 people.

(01:23:10):
Or is a nice round Number. Yeah, because I don't like
because like at one point I was doing like, I would do like my
whole episodes, right? But then I'll go to TikTok and I
compress that shit to 10 minutes.
So my thing is like, I could still do a whole show, but I
could definitely compress mine and get it still going because a
lot of my listeners look at minelike it's a comedy for some.

(01:23:34):
Reason she wasn't showing her, that's why they coming for your
neck. Yeah, some people don't be mad
about me telling me that Lady was a crackhead.
Crack is wet and we can't make fun of you.
That's a witness said. We even told y'all that crack
was wet. But you know, in 2025 crack, is
it really wack anymore? I mean with all the synthetic

(01:23:56):
drugs that's out here, I mean, can you even find somebody who
still smoked rock? Like it's like the Jerry curls.
Anybody still doing Jerry? Curls you fuck around and smoke
Rack you smoke around, think you're getting crack and it
might be a piece of chocolate. Something, I mean, I don't know,
crack dawn of the day. I haven't been a good crackhead

(01:24:17):
in a minute. I see a lot of meth heads and
and and whatnot, but I don't seeno crackheads, no.
You know what? Now that meth shit, that's
what's tripping me out. I didn't know it was so many
black people on meth, especiallyin fucking Florida.
Man, I keep trying to tell y'allwe do everything that I do.
I'm like when. They say, Mayor, I'm hearing
when I'll be hearing a rapper get caught with

(01:24:38):
methamphetamines. I'd be like what?
Because that's what we are. I never say crack.
You, you can, you can't. Do they even still anybody still
getting a charge for crack? Like I know cocaine, sure,
because what? It ain't even regular cocaine.
Now what? They got pink cocaine.
Man, that *** did your motherfucker hey.
Man, what do you think I'm saying?
What you think about? I think that when the chickens

(01:25:03):
come out on the roost, you get you fucked up It it it just
don't think that the shit you got away with back in in in in
the past won't come back and find your ass.
You know what is crazy though? Wendy Williams told him this
shit in the 90s. But it's always like that.
I mean, shit, look at R Kelly. We we all knew what was going

(01:25:24):
on. Oh man, I'm Aliyah.
But. Bro I cannot stand, I cannot
stand Aliyah's family. They are full of shit and the
reason why I said any full of shit is what the fuck are y'all
hiding? They clear they don't, they
don't say anything about R Kelly, they don't say anything
about Aaliyah. I'm like y'all don't put her
music on these on these platforms.

(01:25:46):
Like what are y'all doing? What are y'all holding on to?
Man, they put a little bit of itout, they released a little bit,
but they kept away from us for along time because that was my
girl. But it wasn't a secret what was
going on. And oh hell no I don't.
Unpopular opinion but I I mean even swap ain't no swindle.

(01:26:06):
Now I ain't speaking about the Alia, but for all of the
surviving R Kelly survivors, y'all was living in the and and
experiencing the finest of the finest.
If he wanted you to do what you wanted to do for all he needed
to do was pee on you from time to time, clearly you ain't mind
that shit. Some of y'all parents bought the
concert tickets and took backstage and you know what,
man? Shot the shit on, you know what

(01:26:28):
I'm saying? I don't get, I mean, that's not
just, it's a whole lot of celebrities.
I mean, Michael Jackson, you cango back to a whole lot of people
who've done accused a whole lot of shit.
I'm just saying, my daughter, I might take her to the concert,
but she ain't gonna go off with you know what by herself, you
know what I'm saying? Gonna come to your house and
spend the night. You know, it's just, I ain't
pipping my chair, not like that.I'm just, I'm just saying.

(01:26:50):
Here's the thing. Money got cut off.
When the money got cut off, that's when it was a problem for
me. It was a problem.
It should have been a problem from the gate, you know what I
mean? Or Kelly was giving people $1000
a week in the 90s. That was money.
Then you got it. That was.
Money downstairs. I don't know if you're going to

(01:27:10):
risk it for 60,000 these days. Mother fuckers risk it for $10.
Well, yeah, apparently, you know, apparently they, they risk
it. So I, I, I just, you know, I
think a little differently aboutthings sometimes.
And and and and for me, it's like if it's a problem, you
should have been screaming from day one when I found your phone

(01:27:32):
number in my baby phone. You know what I'm saying?
I went to the police, then in there put a stop to this shit.
Not six years later. You know when she don't age that
because you know, you got an agerange you like them from and now
she don't age that the programming.
We don't want to go because we your money is a line item in our
budget. I'm just saying it makes it
hard. Truly victimized who are true

(01:27:55):
victims who did not want to be in a situation and were forced
to be in a situation. I'm just saying, you out here
buying Birkin bags one of these is not the same.
At all. One.
One more question. Those twins, How, how, how, why
were they in that town? The ones that they just found

(01:28:16):
dead on that mountain. I don't know because the news
has been very vague. It just says that they were
visiting Atlanta, but where theywere found is not Atlanta.
I mean, there's a whole lot of places that ain't Atlanta but
are Atlanta. Where they were found is not
Atlanta. So I don't know how to fuck they
got out there because ain't no bus, ain't no ain't no nothing.

(01:28:38):
Somebody took them out there. Because I was like, my question
was like, damn. I was like, were they were they
known to go mountain hiking and trailing and shit like that?
I don't man. I went to, I went, I took my son
to a cave. I didn't even have shoes for
that shit. So I'm like, that's why I was
like, damn, they you were they walking trails or do they climb

(01:28:58):
mountains? I'm like, why are they at the
top of the mountain? And not only why they at the top
of the mountain. Where's the gun?
If it's a murder suicide, two people can't strangle each
other. You know, the and the truth,
sadly will probably never come out because ain't no cameras up

(01:29:20):
there. I mean, that's what we're
talking a real desolate place like you.
You have to not like, I don't know what the fuck they were
you. I got to get on, get some GPS
going to figure out. So that's not some place that
you just stumble across. You know what I'm saying is this
is not like a black, a young black person's tourist spot.
Like no, period, it's not Decatur you, you, you wanted
Linux or nothing like that. This this is completely and

(01:29:41):
totally off the beaten path. So they had some help being
alive and we probably will neverknow what happened.
And my heart just goes out to their family because who the
fuck and why? Twins, twins like both of them,
yes, both of them from me a mess, a mess, a mess.

(01:30:02):
But, you know, they'll come up with some surveillance cameras,
you know, they'll figure out where they were last in the
city. And it'll be like, you know,
have you seen this person? Hopefully, hopefully that's the
best we can hope for. Atlanta got a lot of cameras.
So if they touchdown in Hartsfield, we should be able to
track them all the way from the airport or bus or however they
got here to their hotel and thentry to figure out where they

(01:30:23):
went. But you know, it also depends on
which area has jurisdiction because in the mountains, I
don't know what county that is, but I bet they ain't ain't gonna
be too concerned about what had happened was because again they
called school side, clearly theygot concerned.
Oh, no, no, no, no. That that mean we ain't trying
to do no, we ain't trying to do nothing extra.

(01:30:44):
We're trying to close this shit.That part, it's closed already
because as far as we're concerned, you're it's a murder
suicide, even though we ain't got no gun.
I'm gonna I'm gonna title this episode 3430.
You know 3430 is right. 3430 Have I heard that?
What is that? Basically ESPN usually does

(01:31:06):
shows called 30 for 30, but you only get 30 for 30 for being the
best. It's always talk about like.
Yeah, we're the best. Yes, there's always like 30 for
30 is always like a historical event that happened in like
sports or whatever, but it'd be like unforgettable shit.
We just talk about the whole story.
So I was like, I was going to dothis 30 for 30.

(01:31:28):
So that's why I named it. I'm name it, 30 for 30.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah, all.
Right, I'll be on the lookout for 30 to 30 coming soon to your
streaming platform. Yeah, I'm, I'm go ahead and get
it over to you. I'm gonna download it, of
course, and then I'm sent to my drive and I'm send it to you so
you can upload it on yours if you want to, but you'll have it
in case you want to do somethingelse with it.

(01:31:50):
But listeners, y'all TuneIn to murder and mayhem every week.
You know me, I come. Melanin mayhem.
I mean, melanin and mayhem, yeah.
Melanin and mayhem. Look at him y'all.
Get him to our nation. Get him y'all.
Can get at me and talk. Y'all can get at me and talk
crazy in my in my DMS or comments.

(01:32:11):
It don't matter. Yeah, but me, I drop mine.
I'm gonna drop this episode on Wednesdays.
So you have a double dose of herthis week?
Thank you, King Arthur. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Next time I just popped. My chair in my first wet.

(01:32:32):
Until next time, peace. Peace.
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