Lolley

New Castle, Delaware 2018

Lolley has a secret...

Written by: King Arthur

Episode Transcript

(00:00):
I can feel a breeze with the palm trees within his beach.
We can have the sea. It's your sea, but uncomfortably
in my Galaxy, it's what you and me.
It's been a while. I was so searching and I got out
of there. What's good?

(00:26):
Well, this King Arthur, this is not My Brother's Keeper's
podcast, a true crime podcast about black dudes who killed.
What's good, gang? What's good?
Yeah. What is happening?
What's going on, gang? Yeah, yeah.
You brought back in that booth for.
Ain't got my laptop and my mic connected.

(00:47):
Yeah, we, you know, got a lot going on.
Got a lot going on. Shout out to the BTCC, to the
Red Rum, Melanin Mysteries and Melanin Mayhem.
And you can get a live show for Melanin Mysteries August 1st.
I mean, second, they have a virtual and they have it live in

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living color. And you can go to
themelaninmysteries.com and get your tickets game.
Yeah, go out there and support. And yeah, we will be an ATL
shouty in October 18th for a live show with me Not my
Brother's keeper Sipper Red Rum,your favorite girl.
If your favorite country girl with the Melanin Mayhem and

(01:29):
Willie and Tiffany at the Melanin Mysteries.
Yeah, it's going to be a trap. I'm not trap, but it's going to
be a sipping paint and true crime.
It's another name for it, but that's what it is.
Basically come out there and drink with the gang.
But anyway, we're headed to Delaware and let me tell you

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this one, you better put your thinking caps on A and look.
Listen dawg, can y'all answer the polls bear some of y'all
answer some of y'all answer the polls.
I'm start not gonna do that, butwhatever start answer answer the
pose bear. I don't do that media, but here

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when I do doing I need to answer, but whatever, it's all
you can't. There is a there is a lady by
the name of Isabelle Cooper and she has been dating a guy named
Delicious Lonian Barry. Now before y'all say I'm over
here messing up *** names, let me spell it out to you.

(02:34):
Get your get you a pen right now.
Get you a pen right now 'cause I'm telling you, you can't
pronounce his name. It is spelled his name is
spelled THESSALONIANS. What the fuck does that spell?
Bruh? What does that spell?

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All I know this last *** this *** last name is Barry and he
will be getting called Barry from the rest of this show
because I ain't got time to be trying to figure out that name.
And I'm pretty sure me y'all would rather hear me not trying
to figure out his name because II see BM then I see somebody his
*** can't What was it? You you need to start trying to

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pronounce name. But anyway, yeah, it is December
2017, and Isabel Cooper has toldBarry, I am pregnant.
I am pregnant. And your baby and your boy.

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Barry is happy. Yeah.
He is in love, gang. They are in love.
Now, that's not to say that thisthis is their first child.
This is their first child together.
Yeah 'cause you know, Isabel already has a daughter and God
damn Barry, he got 4 kids. So I mean a chick telling him to

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stay pregnant ain't nothing new gang.
He know how this role this thingis now.
And then I'm gonna stay or I'm not gonna go.
Now your boy, your boy Barry hasinformed his homie Walter Lolly.
He's a a bro, meaning the bill having a baby dog, right and

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he's like, oh man, that's cool, man.
I see you all expanded their family, man.
I'm have to get me one one day. You hurt me and and so he's
happy for the couple right. So now, Lolly, he had also been
living in Delaware and for quitesome time now, because him and
bear this is partner 8 spoon cone.

(04:45):
They get it out their mud together, right?
So they've been kicking the she's been growing now.
She's about now in May 2018. She is about 7.
She is seven months pregnant right now.
Barry and Cooper, I mean Barry and Isabel, her last name
Cooper. Barry and Isabel, they're on

(05:06):
their way to head over to a party on on Isabel's side, you
know, 'cause she's gonna hang with her favorite cousin.
His name is Andrew Charles. They grew up together and I mean
he, she was like a, she was a protected at him.
That is Ace Boon Cone. It was said that them two was
thick as thieves. Whenever he got in trouble, she
was there to handle that issue, right?

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And you know, they came and hungout after the party for about
couple of hours, 'cause you know, when you 7 months
pregnant, you was two things youtrying to do.
You trying to be on you 2 things.
You trying to be as off your feet and eat.
You trying to be off your feet and eat energy 107 months
pregnant. You ain't trying to be on your
foot. You ain't trying to be on your
feet. And you definitely trying to be

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not eating. You be trying to eat and beat
off your feet. I'm telling you right now, they
hang out at the minute. They hang out at the party for a
couple of hours. You know, yeah, basically leave
because hell, I'm pregnant and Ineed to get my rest on right.
So of course they leave her and her and him, Barry, and just two

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days later, Cooper, Barry and Lolly and some guy, his name,
some guy, look, this dude name was on nothing.
Some redacted male, some unknownguy decided to go to Delaware
Park Casino, right. But the unknown guy, he just

(06:37):
disappears from the whole story.Yeah, so he never even made it
to the, he never even made it tothe studio.
I mean, he never made it to the casino, right.
And so Isabel is going to drop off Lolly and Barry right now.

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They know they've been dressed up first, you know, they got on
some Air Force One, you know, sweatshirts and sweatpants, you
know, you know, real casual hot dudes.
How about how we get when we going somewhere?
Because, I mean, you ain't in Vegas.
I mean, Delaware do y'all? What kind of casino is this?
But anyway, they dressed up realcasual.
That's how I would be dressed. I probably Nike sweat suits and
some 90s or some Air Force One, you know, real comfortable right

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now. She didn't go because she like,
man, I am not gonna be it. No damn stinking ass casino.
I'm seven months pregnant and I can't drink and I ain't trying
to be sitting up in watch. Y'all gamble?
So she just drops Berry in Cooper, I mean Berry in Lolly
off, right? And they gamble for a couple

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hours, right? Right.
So a couple hours go by and theyhit up Isabel.
Isabel coming back to get him, right?
Isabel has rolled up and picked these two guys up right now she
is on her way to drop off to drop off Lolly.

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Right now Lolly and Barry have on matching outfits.
Did you hear me matching outfits?

(08:29):
Yes. Now I don't know if he went out
there and they was I don't know if he went out there.
They both went out there and said, hey, yeah, let's get this
red hoodie. Let's get this red pants and get
thin white Air Force ones or what?
Because I, I'm, I'm remember back in the day when George just
come out on Saturday, he used toget in the line and you go in
there, you by the George and yougrab sides, you grab this, you
grab that and he'll have a lot of people might walk out with

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the same shit, right? So basically we still do that on
the same shit, right? So they're all they've hopped in
the car and she's on her way to take Lolly home, right.
But all of a sudden, all of a sudden, bow, bow, bow shots are

(09:10):
fired in the vehicle, right? Isabel and Barry have been shot
in the back of the head. Now Lolly has brain matter and

(09:33):
blood all over his sweatshirt. He hops out the car, gets back
in the car, grabs his gun, takesoff the sweatshirt and leaves it
at the scene. What now he has rent across this

(09:54):
parking lot, He's hit gas station cameras, he's hit home
surveillance cameras, but he gets in the wind.
And it was never figured out howhe got to Georgia, but mentioned
this night some kind of way. He has made it from Delaware to
Georgia within a couple of days.Right now, back to the night in

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question around 2:30, around 2:30 AM, around 2:30 AM the new
the New Castle police report to a potential crash at 2:30 AM.
It is now May 24th, 2018. And when the police get there,

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they realize this two bodies unresponsive.
So when they call EMTSEMTS get there and they're like, hey,
man, this is they they, they pronounced me dead.
Seen. I mean, the DOA they already
did. It was slumped over.
They pulled him out. You could see either visibly see
they were bleeding from the head.
Now The thing is the reason why the police responded to a a

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potential crash is because the car had a little bit of damage
to it, but there was no other car.
There was no other court there. So I'm just guessing the court
just had some, I'm telling you, he had some some dents and
sweats on it. So they had this shit blocked
off from 2:30 to about 8 the next morning because they trying

(11:27):
to figure out what is going. This is a two way St. in this
town right here. They had and they had traffic
jam the fuck up, right. So the news finally came out
there reported that there was 2 bodies.
There was 2 bodies found, a man and a pregnant woman in the
head. Let them know that all of them

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are deceased and they are not releasing the names until the
families have been contacted. Right?
Right. OK cool, now at the scene.
I'm not the same later on that day, another story, another

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news. I mean, they, they eventually
released the names that it was buried and Isabella Cooper and
the unborn I the unborn child, Bella Rose Cooper or the three
dead victims. Right now the police have

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already said if you've know or seen anything around 10 AM to
about two we call and leave it. Give us a tip.
You can remain anonymous. We're trying to figure this out
right now. They already told the car back
and it's being processed. They're checking phone records.

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They're checking a cell towers. They check they checking gas
stations. They checking on casinos because
tips have been coming in that a,they were supposed to be heading
to casino. Then you had people calling us.
My AI just saw them to at a party couple days ago.
They seemed happy. I don't know who this could have
been. And then you also have people
saying I don't know what they was doing or where they was at,

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but they do. But they was like berries, have
a homeboy named Walter Lolly andthey kick it hard like.
So if anybody know what they wasdoing or where they was that it
would have been him, right? Cool.
So they are also camps in looking for Lolly because they
were like, hey, there's been a couple days they're looking for

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Lolly because they're like, hey,this is one of his best friends
and they have not contacted him and they talk every day.
So he's like figure out like why?
Why hasn't he came in lesson tips?
Why hasn't he came in and left some information?
Anything right? So boom, basically.

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So right now, everything is moving.
Slow boogie. Everything was slow boogie,
right? But you know, on June 9th,
Isabel Cooper and Bella Rose Cooper were buried.
Yeah, they were buried. And just ten days after that, on

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the 19th, Barry was buried. And now his family said now that
they are both buried, we can focus on who did this.
Right now it's July and friends and family wants to know why man
Walter Lily wasn't at either funeral.

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I mean, red flags like a motherhood.
Like where you at gang? Where you at?
You, you, you. And this guy hung out a lot.
Y'all kicked it. Y'all gamble.
Y'all did this, I did that. Where you at, gang?
Where are you at? Right.
So Barry, I'm not Barry. Lolly is nowhere to be found.

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Nowhere to be found. But people are getting really
suspicious because now they're starting to get some of the
things back in the DNA from the sweatshirt.
Nothing in the blood from the sweatshirt came from Lolly and
they found his fingerprints in the back seat.

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And he was also seen on camera at the casino with Barry.
And he was also seen on surveillance from a gas station
walking in the area from the around the crime scene.
But then not only that, an unknown male who was eventually

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with these three a little beforethis, who got out before the
casino has came and he has been talking.
He was like, hey man, I don't know what the hell happened.
But I do know this. It was me, Lolly, Barry and
Cooper. And I had kicked it with them
earlier, but they end up dropping me off.
And Lolly and Walter, I mean, Lolly and Barry was heading to

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the casino by themselves. Cooper wasn't going, you know,
she's pregnant. She probably was trying to be in
there. But they dropped me off before
all that. So all I know the last people I
saw with them was Lolly. Hey, man, don't put my name in
this shit. I ain't no fucking snitch.
OK, Now the, the, the, the US Marshals have finally said, I

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mean, the local, the local police have finally haven't been
able to find, have not been ableto locate Lolly.
And they eventually hold a pressconference and they name him as
the prime suspect and say, hey, we're looking for a water Lily.
If you know where this *** is at, you call us.
You get all the tips to line, you call the local PD, you call

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whoever, wherever you see this *** you call those police and
tell them who you seen, where you saw him at 'cause we need to
talk right now. This is an orgasm in just in
about about about 5 weeks later on September 13th, 2018, Federal

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agents have arrested you boy loudly in Decatur, GA and he sat
in jail until December until they transferred his ads back to
Delaware and he was charged withtwo two counts of felony murder,
possession of a firearm, brewingthe Commission of a felony.

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And he is being held on a $2,000,000 bond in Howard Young
correctional right now. They bring this guy into
interrogation, right? And they ask him, hey man,
what's the game? Where you been to your friends

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and died You wouldn't have no funerals die.
What's up? Like yeah man, they died.
I just couldn't take it, bro. I just couldn't I, I couldn't, I
couldn't go to that bro. It was just too hard for me,
dawg. It was just too hard for me.
And it was like, well, how closeto friends were y'all?
He's like, man, we was friends and shit, but I mean we wouldn't
like, you know, we didn't talk every day.

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There was just like we kicked itsometimes.
We drank smoke whenever we wouldn't gamble, you know, here
and there, none too major. And it was like, is that all you
guys say? Yeah, I mean, I realize y'all
don't have enough say. And I mean, I really don't feel
like talking right now. So I mean, like, he's like,
well, we we're charging you withmurder.
He's like, OK, well fuck you charging with murder and
whatever. I just take my day in court.

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I know what I did. I didn't do this stuff.
Y'all just trying to charge me with it.
You're trying to railroad another *** And they're like,
bro, ain't nobody trying to railroad you, Playboy.
Nobody, he was like me just taking back to my cell, man.
Get the fuck out of here, man. Y'all, y'all wanna talk
something real? Y'all come talk to me right now.
I ain't trying to hear this shit.
I'm not trying to hear this shit, right?

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So they take him back to his cell, right?
And couple days later, couple days later, not a couple days
later, couple weeks later, he isdrug back interrogation.

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And they like a lot. Mr. Lolly, we you, you got some
explaining to do Playboy. He was like, what?
What do you mean? You think it like, yeah, you
said that you and Barry wasn't good friends.
Y'all just kind of y'all just kick the shit here and there.

(19:49):
It's kind of like recreational type shit like it was like not
recreational casual like we drink sometime over here, we go
smoke over here sometime we justkick it sometime You will say
that like y'all just kicking when y'all got time.
But what we looking at is y'all a little more than just friends
Like like what? Who he what?

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Yeah y'all are a little more than friends bro.
What the what the fuck you trying to say to me dawg?
What do you mean I'm with me andhim more than friends?
Are we trying to call me gay or some shit?
Bitch, don't play with me, dawg.I'm not with their bullshit, ***
You gonna talk to me? You gonna talk to me like a
fucking man, right? And they said, well, just we
just gonna base this off your calls and we just gonna base all

(20:39):
this kind of little conversationall off your phone, right?
We just gonna base this on your phone?
We just gonna go, 'cause you know, the phone don't lie,
right? The phone don't lie.
And they said y'all seem to spend almost every day together.

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It's like, not really, but whatever.
Whatever you say, dog, is it? Oh, you don't, Oh, you don't
y'all? Y'all don't spend almost every
day together. He's like no I'm gonna spend,
we're gonna spend almost every fucking day together dog.
That dude got a woman at home, why the fuck gonna be with him
all day? He got a child on the way, why

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would I be with him all day? What kind of shit is this dog?
Hey look man, y'all look, I think I know what y'all trying
to do dog. You're trying to piss me off so
you have to try to kiss me in some bullshit.
But daddy ain't gonna work dog because that's not how I'm
rocking, right? He said y'all talked everyday
through text or on the phone. He's like dog, what's so bad

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about talking to somebody every day?
Texting every day. What's the problem, dawg?
Don't you text your people everyday?
The detective's like *** no, I did work.
I texted, man. I talked to my family and my
friends here and there. When we really get to kick it,
we kick it. But I can't be tied up talking
to them every day, seeing them every day, technical every day.

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It just don't happen like that game.
That's just not how I'm working,bro.
Nobody that works and and you'rein your you're in your mid 30s
nobody works and got friends. Y'all know as you grow y'all are
getting like further apart, not further apart like 'cause y'all
Kick It Out. Y'all just older now and y'all
got shit going on. But when y'all come back

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together y'all kicking it like it's like like no time is lost.
That's what happens when you grow up.
You 2 *** is hanging out every day, texting and calling every
day. It might I add y'all were
wearing the exact same clothes the day of the murder that I

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didn't even know this until we went through your text messages
that you purchased both outfits from the sweater to the shoes.
What the fuck is up with that? He like, OK, So what I bought, I
bought. I bought my boy some some

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clothes. So what?
You did what man? Thank you to my man.
Oh, my God, homeboy. I don't.
I ain't know about nobody. No, no outfit, dog, if you like.
There's not no wedding gang where you go by your groomsmen

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the whole outfit or you pick it out or you like.
Yeah, like this, like that, likethat.
You bought this man a whole outfit for you and him to go to
casino by yourself. Did you give your man a kid say
I man, fuck you bitch, fuck thisout of here, fuck y'all.
And he walks out right? And they told him well you will

(23:50):
be sitting there because we got enough evidence to put you under
the jail and they don't call himand they get rid of a child
right now Lolly has been talkingto his lawyer right?
And his lawyers tell him, hey, man, it's not looking good, bro.
It's not looking good, bro. So it is now 2020, right?

(24:16):
And his trial is set to sit in the middle of the year, right?
But in February of 20, it's February 25th of 2020, he
decides to plead guilty, but only the second degree murder.

(24:39):
But he used a Robinson plea, right?
A Robinson plea is basically permitting the acceptance of a
guilty plea in the absence of admitting, and I mean admission
of guilt, basically. Yeah, I'm guilty, but I ain't

(24:59):
gonna admit to that shit, bro. This shit sound like an alpha
plea. Matter of fact, I'm pretty sure
the same thing because I didn't did a lot of shows, I don't read
a lot of documents before and these two shits sound the same.
Please tell me what the difference is, Right.
So at that point he was sentenced.
I mean, well, a couple years, a couple months later he was

(25:20):
sentenced to 100 years, right? But he got 30 of them years
suspended. It takes him down to 70.
Oh man, he was he was he was right.
So of course he goes to prison, right.

(25:41):
But now your boys having afterthoughts like, hey, man, I
really should've did the alpha plea.
I probably just took the trial. I don't really understand what
that that what the Robinson pleais.
So on August 7th he is back in court, but this time it is
appeals court, right. And he's trying to say that his
counsel wasn't good, he didn't understand what the Robinson

(26:03):
plea was and he want to do over he want to take this to trial.
And the judge like, well, do youhave any evidence that you don't
understand this? He was like, yeah, man, he was
just telling me this that and the other.
It seemed to me like you're justtrying to close the case.
But the judge, they it was swiftly denied because the judge
they brought up to all the transcript, it was like right
here, right here. We asked you, did you understand

(26:24):
the Robinson plea? Yes, Sir.
Do you understand that by accepting this plea, you're
you're admitting guilt without admitting guilt to forgo a trial
and get straight to sentencing? And you said yes, Sir.
OK, well, right there, you're not a child.
You're almost 40 with a crazy looking beard.

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Look here, bro, this shit has been denied.
Take your ass back to jail, where you would be for a long
time. And yeah, Robinson is out here.
I mean that Robinson Lolly is out here and that's the end of
his story bro. But you know what?
I have not did this in a long time.

(27:08):
I can't even remember when I didlast but yeah I have.
I have not did this in a long time.
And like you probably a lot of y'all probably don't even ever
heard of this shit. But I used to do this little
segment called with and basically which is W what I
think happened right? Because something about this

(27:30):
story don't add up. Let me tell you something after
reading these documents. One, it never said who homeboy
was and told on Wally 2. It never explained how it got
from this *** in the back seat to him just shooting him in the
back of the head. But if y'all would let me

(27:52):
enlighten y'all, I think I know what happened.
I think back when I think back when your boy Barry told Lolly
that a Isabel is pregnant. I think that shit pissed Lolly
off. I think Lolly like Oh really?

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So y'all want to start a family now?
So you, you gonna play you play husband again?
You, you gonna try to be a family man now?
What about us? I mean, yeah, you were sleeping.
Whatever. You sleeping with me too, right?
He was like, hey, man, I'm glad you brought that up.

(28:37):
We gotta in this shit dog. And I'm like Lila now.
We in this shit dog. This is forever right now.
We can't do this. I mean, we can still kick it.
We can see that dog. But all that, all that, all
that, all that booty cat stuff, like Willie would say, it has to
stop, right? And I think that the more and

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more pregnant Isabelle got, the more it pissed Lolly off.
And I think that last night whenthey was at the fucking at the
fucking casino, I think Barry and fucking Lolly argued in the
casino 'cause I think a lot of like, hey bro, I'm gonna fucking

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tell her. I'm going to tell her what's
going on. And bears like, hey man, don't
do that shit, dawg. Don't do that shit.
And like, like now, fuck this and I'm gonna do that shit.
And you know why I think he did that?
Because look, Lolly took the pistol in the casino with him.
So I really think that Lolly planned on killing Barry

(29:44):
regardless that day, whether it's going to be in that casino
in the car. Now The thing is when when they
got through gambling or arguing,because I think they doing about
arguing that really, I don't think they did shit in that
casino, but argue and I'm serious.
I don't think they did shit, butI don't think they did nothing
in that casino but argue. So look, so eventually they end

(30:07):
up calling Isabel, right? Isabel comes, picks them up,
they get in the car and I think Isabel is driving, right?
No, no, no, I would assume Isabel is driving 'cause she
probably assumed these guys are drunk, so 'cause it never that's
nothing that would kept on. See this case was kind of weird.
Even in a document it said the unknown male, the unnamed or

(30:28):
redacted, whatever he would. He didn't even say who was
driving. And even in paper they said we
never could figure out who was driving.
But this is the part that tripped me out.
How the fuck y'all couldn't figure out who's driving?
It was 2 dead bodies in the front seat.
Who the fuck was in front of thefucking steering wheel?
Bro? It that I swear to God it never

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said nothing. It said they could never
determine who was driving. *** how?
I'm just gonna assume whoever's in the fucking driver's seat was
driving. But whatever.
I think they got in that car andLolly got in and tried to play
it cool. Barry got in and I think Barry
looked over. I mean, I think Lily looked over

(31:09):
at Barry like, you going to tellher or am I going to tell her?
And I think I think Lolly said, hey, Isabel, I got something to
tell you. And I think Barry turned around
and said hey man, don't start that bullshit if Bow punched him
in the mouth because that's why I didn't say this part in the

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story. They found Lolly's blood in the
car. What was he bleeding from?
Mentioned the car never was wrecked.
It was damaged but there was no wreck.
Somebody just thought it was an accident.
They passed by and they saw a car stalled in with damage on
it, but no wrecks was reported. It just assumed it was a crash.

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So I'm thinking Barry turned around, bow, bust him in his
mouth, bust his shit wide open, and that's when Lolly pulls out
the hammer. Bow, bow, put two in the back of
the head, right? I think that's how that
happened. He didn't want to be outed out
as gay and that's what happened.But she a lot of like, fuck

(32:19):
that. You gonna tell the world about
me, gang? Uh uh, but until next time, This
was another. This was a dive into this
segment in a long time. This is a episode of with WITH
what I think happened. I have not did this in over 100
some episodes, but until next time, peace.