Mac

2000 Slidell Louisiana

McKinley Phipps is a major artist signed to No Limit Records when he host a open miv night in Slidell. The event was meant to showcase new talent but ended in chaos with McKinley's hanging in a balance.

written by: King Arthur

commentary by: Willie of Melanin Mysteries Podcast

Episode Transcript

(00:02):
What's good word this is King Arthur and this is not my
brother's keepers podcast, a true crime podcast about black
dudes who killed. And today we are finally
recording with one of the guys that, well, not even one of the
guys, the only person that has been requested by the ladies to
come on the. Latest.

(00:24):
What is your name again? What's up?
What's up? This Willie, My Willie from Co
host Melanin Mystery. Me and my girl best friend,
actually, Tiffany. We tell true crime stories
involved in relationships, murder and crime.
Sometimes it's it's it's the ***murdering each other.

(00:46):
Sometimes they mock other people, but no, I'm saying
there's a lot of murder and it'sall black, so that's what we do.
Tiffany, she couldn't be in tonight, so she put all the
pressure on me. I actually talked to Tiffany
maybe 30 minutes ago and I say Tiffany still coming on and you
can tell me if she capping or not.
She said she got a last minute date so she couldn't make it.

(01:07):
A last minute date. A date, She said date, she said
date. Bro, I'm gonna let you.
I'm gonna. Tell me she got a date bro. ***
she ain't got no dating that Tiffany.
I'm not right now, right? I got to get her location. ***
she at home, she ain't got a little date.

(01:30):
Hey, with that being said, hey hop in the beautiful Tiffany's
DM let. Me tell you, you know how Tammy
is. The Tommy ain't got no job, man.
Tiffany ain't got no man. Hop in there.
Oh man. I've been that bitch man yes and
she she light skinned too man soy'all.

(01:50):
Light skin. I saw the long hair.
So she should be. She should be.
Yeah. She should have them lined up.
Yes, exactly. Now I got to read you something.
That's a listener sent to me earlier about William, and I
want you to respond. I want you to respond to it.
Oh, shoot, OK. You know, I, I like to respond.
Hey, look, you know, look, I'll hold back.

(02:10):
So let's let's clear. No, you good, you good, You good
on my man Look. OK OK, I just want to make sure
I know this PG13. Free for all over here.
No, Sir. Free for all.
We do exactly because OK, his listener said.
I like Willy, but he'd be talking too much shit to not
know how to pronounce them words.

(02:31):
Damn, that's like I do me like that, man.
Look, man, Alright *** I'll be trying.
I mean, I look, sometimes I get it sometimes I don't know.
I'm saying at least I got a sense of humor about this shit
though, you know? I don't get offended, man.
I do talk this right now. I didn't understand this

(02:54):
message, but I'm gonna read it to you.
I read it. Go ahead.
She. Said she says she said tell
Willie ass I hope when he get old his kids take care of him,
otherwise he's going to be in a nursing home.
Where did that come from? Man, probably I got some
biracial kids, man. You know, biracial kids fucked

(03:14):
up, man. Like I'm a firm believer, man.
I don't think races need to mix.It ain't meant like think about
it, because I mean. Messed with black women I got.
A wife, Yeah, I possibly hold. On shout out to my wife Nicole.
OK, let's check this out. Go if you miss a Pitbull with a
Labrador, right, you have a fucking face.

(03:36):
But the *** don't be dumb running away racing cars and
shit like that, right? It's the same thing with kids.
I fucked around and missed one like with a Puerto Rican man.
Yes, this is yeah my my yeah my baby.
I shout out to my kids or to my to biracial daughter.

(03:58):
I don't remember. You ain't fucked up bro.
Like real talk. Bro OK, look now there's one
listener she said, she said, oh,I stay right around the corner
from the park. It where you're hosting your
your picnic, right? Yeah, yeah.
And it was like, am I going? I'm like, hell yeah.
I'm going like, hey, we bring inthe do say and we want some of

(04:19):
them edibles will be talking about.
Oh, say let's look, look, look, hey, so look, we coming out with
so see me, I'm a I'm an entrepreneur, right, You know
what I'm saying? So I know everybody got their
own their own Jones. And so we got the weed edibles
and *** I have went in business with a couple do well.
We got crack edibles and fentanyl, you know, for the ***

(04:43):
that really got addictions and really want to get hired.
Hey. Man y'all take that crack when
when y'all get in the car don't take it on the pass.
No, but all just aside, we do got a we do got a a a what?
They call it a the mobile dispensary.
I said right, OK, good. Yeah, we got today.
It will be yes. And again, it's it's actually

(05:05):
it's a friend of mine. You know what I'm saying?
*** I grew up with named Darrell.
Yeah. So he will be there.
I mean, he will be there with the Adibos and look man, look,
come down. We're going to kick it.
Y'all like seriously, I, I look,I kick it.
I do. We could be definitely about to
have a good time. One more, one more thing before
we start. Yes Sir.
My listeners. They got a counter on you, bro.

(05:28):
What? They got a counter on you right
now. A counter what?
How many times I'll be fucking them names?
Yeah seriously, they going to count bro?
Come on man, I'll be trying man.*** I had an IP back in the day
man. I was saying shit.
I'm I'm surprised, didn't you miss that with biracial kids?

(05:56):
Have a chance? OK, well y'all let's get
started. What you know about the the No
Limit soldiers? Bro, let me tell you, no, I'm an
old *** So Oh yeah, we were on the same age.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was my error bro.
No limit *** Let me tell you a true story bro.
When bout it first came out, youknow what I'm saying?
It was a remember. I don't know if y'all had this

(06:18):
thing called Job Corps. Y'all have that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.
My brother went to Job Corps. I'm from Cleveland.
He went to the Job Corps Cincinnati, and somebody from
down South was down there and brought that.
The first time I heard about it that but before the shit even
ever came out right it was. Why?
Did you watch the movie soon? When he When?

(06:40):
He had the one on the that was. Real.
That was the first Toby. That was the first Toby movies,
man. Yes, and first time I heard
about it, man, I'm like like that.
It was the beat. The beat was like, damn, you
know what I'm saying? And then shown us like two
months later them *** take over,man Yeah.
No limit was slut shit. No Limit was the shit.

(07:01):
I ain't going to lie. I'm still waiting for Mercedes
album to come out. You know what I'm saying?
Remember Mercedes? Y'all remember?
Her she just completely disappeared bro.
She just, just she. Just her album.
Disappeared. *** her album nevercame out. *** she had bent over
that car head. *** ready and hershit never came out.
Her or Moby Dick? Neither one.

(07:21):
Neither one. Neither one, Yeah.
But yes, I'm definitely was a nolimit.
So so with that being said, whatwe doing today, brother?
What what is we doing, man? What is we doing?
Who we talking about? What do you?
Think about McKinley. We're going to talk about
McKinley. McKinley Phillips.
I mean Phillips. Now, the crazy part was until
you told me who that was, I had already heard him rap.

(07:44):
Because the song I heard him on was that if you want me, come
get me. How the fuck you going to take
me? I got the he's like murder,
murder, kill, killing shit, bad *** from the bricks throwing my
kicks. That was him the whole time.
I didn't know that. I know that was him.
But yeah, but look, the crazy part, I had put it in y'all, I,

(08:04):
I shared a story on it the otherday, not a story, but like on
Instagram and I and I tagged y'all and I guess it was Tiffany
who liked it. She didn't have a clue what I
was talking about really. But yeah, 'cause at first when I
read the story, I'm like, man, this thing got, I was like, I
don't know, this is real controversial.
You got planned. Then as I read it, read it, read
all, I know that the end of the day, I don't know what the fuck

(08:25):
happened. Somebody got shot.
That's it. Yeah, somebody got shot and that
*** got blamed for it. You know what I'm saying?
Let me tell you real quick, my favorite song from that *** the
Murder, Murder, Kill, Kill, thatone.
And Dad, what's the name of it? Oh, shit.

(08:46):
Dag, I can't particular name, but yeah, Mac was that
lyrically. Like, if you think about Mac,
would you know he used to be with no limit.
He was trying to be with no limit.
Here's what we wanted, the hot boys.
But then he left and signed withMaster P Yes, Matt.
Yeah, Matt. Matt was one of the most lyrical

(09:08):
ones out of everybody that was on that click.
Yup, Matt was one of the most like who was as he lyrical.
You know what I'm saying? That yes, Matt was the true bro
and AS. As I went through the story, I
could see where some of the shitstarted too.
So let's go ahead and get started.
What's up? Where are we in here?
We're going to get at it. So Michael, I mean, McKinley

(09:31):
Phillips was born in 19, I mean,1977, July 30th, right in New
Orleans, Third Ward. Look, man, I can't.
I love New Orleans, man. I just ain't going to ground
Mardi Gras because we went down there and we got total oh.
You had one of them, what they call them my man.
Or man was on was on Bourbon Street.
I don't know what we had. We had a little bit of
everything it. Wasn't like a little green

(09:53):
drink. Oh yeah, yeah, we have one of
those too. Man, it wasn't nothing but
goddamn titties and liquor out there.
Bro yes, and a lot of them was big and both so dude, I died in
New Orleans for a month and a half man for work and I end up
linking up with a a chick. You know I got a big story.

(10:13):
You are, you know I got. A story about Go ahead.
Man end up linking up with this chick down there.
Man, she that that she was the hair person at the hotel.
I was saying that man when I saybro man Oh my good man.
They show love dog. No, that's a person bro.

(10:34):
Let me see dog man, when I bro, and then they got they got that,
that that something that that they lingo like their their
their speed. Oh my goodness, man, yes, I was
like damn fine man. That girl was finding a frog

(10:55):
hair split four ways dog. I saw my wife and they went to
New Orleans, bro. They drove my car and I said hey
man, I don't want nobody drivingmy car, bro.
I end up seeing video everybody driving my car and drinking.
They speeding in this month, butthey drinking They they took a
million goddamn shots. They taking shots out of other
ladies Mouse. I'm like, what kind of shit?
Y'all was going down there booties.

(11:16):
The only thing about New Orleanswas #1 to be stinking because
they hold sources. Some fucking yeah.
And the only thing, another thing is *** like I don't
understand why you would why youlike I get it.
That's your whole time you stay in the city where you know,

(11:37):
eventually in a three-year period, it's a possibility that
you bout to get flooded the fuckout.
You know what I'm saying? Like I'm going over again.
Like I'm like, I'm gone, man, right?
Let me send this out to New Orleans.
I had a couple listen out there,Cortana.
We didn't mean to talk about thecity like that, but hey, this is
that Lady gang. But anyway, Humboldt was born in

(11:59):
New Orleans in the third Ward and he grew up very musically
inclined. And he he he actually started
documenting his raps around 13 or 14, right.
And he in the 1990 when he really started taking it like
serious, he was actually got a got produced by the one and only
Manny fresh. I can't remember what the name

(12:19):
of the song was but he and the song that the the topic of the
song was he was a 13 year old boy wishing he had a car because
he felt like he was tired of riding the bus.
But the whole video he's on the bus complaining about that
motherfucker now. Like why does a 13 year old need
a car so bad? Why?
He was a he was a YN before there was YN, you know what I'm

(12:41):
saying? Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. So eventually he joined this
group called Psycho Ward right? And this shit had 28 members.
Now I'm like *** look here the BTCC got 7 different groups.
I'm trying to still figure out how that money gets split.

(13:03):
I can only imagine how 28 people.
Yeah, they can. Look, that'd be the cause of
most breakups when that money, when it's time to split that
money. I already know who I'm accusing
for the money. I already know who I'm accusing.
God, now I'm accusing your ass. I will sue.

(13:29):
You go there, that's hilarious, Dog.
But that's how Wu Tang would think.
A Wu Tang here like 38 members about dog.
Dog it, I think the reason why Iwork with Wu Tang because you
know they grew up together, which sometimes it is a gift and
a curse. But 28 people that just got put
in one group, it's going to be like G.
It's going to be like G unit butleave game leave.

(13:50):
You know these people wouldn't roll that non president rhyme is
Yayo and yayo was in jail. Have time.
He come out and he'd been figured the whole time, but he
grew up with him. The *** came right.
I'm sorry. Oh man, the nigga's horrible.
*** tried the *** garbage. Yeah, he came right, you know
what I'm saying? Yeah.
Right. So the the the psych ward,
psycho Ward, which is a crazy name.

(14:11):
They went to New York to get a deal, right?
Mac said, man, I'll fuck that. I can't do that.
It's got 28 people on him. And so he said fuck that, which
I would say fuck that too, because not only did he go to
New York for it, they want them to move to New York.
And you know, if you move to NewYork, they're going to probably
give you a New York sound. You can't, you can't ain't no

(14:31):
look, I don't listen to shit that come out of New York.
Not even Jay-Z, bro. You don't like that shit is.
Whack. No man, like I mean, I mean
Jay-Z he cool, but like that's not the first.
He got some songs I listen to, but I ain't never said, hey man,
put that Jay-Z. So you're like DMS?
He alright, He alright man. The Best Song would be next.

(14:53):
I like is what these bitches want from a Nick 'cause I won't.
Know oh, that was my song deal with Tina.
Hey, look, hey, look, I was overthere to look.
Yep, got that one. Yep, that one right there.
About 3 Kim's What's Up game? Yes.
Hell no, man, no. So I didn't listen to New York
rap back in the day 'cause I thought everything was like,

(15:15):
like, you know, like, like The Who is a, like A Tribe Called
Quest, like that type of rap, you know what I'm saying?
It's smart, real. Her MOP that, that no MOP.
And I'm like, they, they said they're from New York.
I'm like what? And then I heard DMX.
I'm like, damn. And so then that's when I
started getting into not all NewYork, but like then that's what

(15:37):
I started getting. I think it's for some people,
it's like these different parts of your life.
Like before I was just into thishardcore.
Like exactly easy easy. That's why I still listen to
Tupac, because that when I listen to Tupac, that was on my
growing stages, that was on my 1318, always from Tupac.
Let me tell you a group that ***from from Flint, MI, that *** do

(15:59):
not talk about Top authority, bro, check out Top Authority and
take out the song called AnotherMurder.
Granted, you listen to it now you're like, oh, but you back
then, oh, them *** Yeah, Top authority.
Check that out. Oh yeah.
So look, when at the time he wasrapping with Psych Ward, his

(16:23):
name was Little Mack. But he drops the Little Mack and
just goes to straight Mack, right?
And when he declines the deal, he goes straight and he signs
with Master P, He signs with DefJam and then Master P, Right.
And at this point, Master P is hotter than Fisk grease.
Make them say bout it. Bout it.

(16:44):
You got silk mystical Miss, you got silk mystical Mia X, you got
C murder. You got hell.
Who was that one? Who's?
That Cain enabled, they had. Skulldugger, they had.
Shit man, they had a bump. Mr. Serve.
On He's about a pound. All that, bro.

(17:06):
Yeah, no limit was deep, bro. And let me tell you.
When he got in there, yeah. No, go ahead, go ahead, say what
you going to say by. The time he got in there, Snoop
was there too. Yeah, you're right.
You know what I'm saying, Snoop was.
There, that was 2000s two. I didn't like that 3/4.
Years I didn't I didn't like Snoop on no limit.
I think he was doing anything toget from undershooked.

(17:29):
No, and I get it. I respect it because he told his
story about it and you know how Masterpiece showed him love and
showed him how to operate a business and he don't want to
get him his money back. You know what I'm saying?
Because when he left when he broke, but I just didn't like
like him on I didn't like him all that him and Trey go
together. You know what I'm saying?
Him on them no limit beast, you know what I'm saying?
I really like, but what was I going to say?

(17:53):
Damn, bro, I forget what I'm about to say about the whole no
limit. Let me tell you when When I knew
no limit was going to be a problem.
When it got mystical. Oh ma'am, when they got
mystical. That's him.
That's that *** Now when we get the man right chair, Oh my God,
*** I'm like oh, it ain't my fault.
No, man, we. Really telling our age over here

(18:14):
bro. Me that my song.
Bro, we were really telling our age over here.
Yeah. So let's go ahead and move on
with this. So when he signs with No Limit,
he drops 2 albums and they're all produced by Beats by the
Pound. One of the best, best producers

(18:36):
ever. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, they and the
and the crazy part that was really beneficial for for cat
for no limit because it even worked out for cash money
because, you know, Manny fresh, he was the in house producer.
So you know, he can he collectedhe can collect the money off of
all of that. But the thing was, when Matt
chose to do his album World War Three, he chose to new to he

(19:01):
chose not to use beat by the pound at all, and that's kind of
when the conflict started. 'Cause I didn't know that part.
Oh. Yeah.
Oh yeah, 'cause after that, that's when Master P started
informing him about doing shows in the hood and stop hanging

(19:22):
around the hood, yes, because. Remember that?
Yes. The thing about it is like once
you get a little bit of money bro, you really can't go around
them. Same now you can kick with same
guys but they need to come more like where you're at because
when you go on to where they at bro you look like food and these
*** hungry. Hungry and Oh yeah, yeah, I

(19:43):
think I would think I was talking about to.
I think I was talking to Tiffanyabout that earlier about it'd be
so crazy that usually the *** who get make it and talk about
keeping the realists in the hood, they always getting killed
or fucked up in the same area they grew up here.
In the same area they live. Yeah, *** I'm going like, look,

(20:03):
it ain't nothing wrong with getting money and moving out.
I don't care. What I'm like, I'm like Leroy on
Friday, once I got my money then.
I was gone. I was gone.
Bro he said this shit with authority.
He meant that shit. No, I was talking to my son
about that. Yes, me and my son were talking
about that because he was talking about we talked about

(20:24):
John Morant and I'd be trying tobring that same hood mentality.
Like *** you got all this money and you trying to be gang, gang
like come on my *** calling thatdown.
The thing about it, the thing about John Morant these days, is
that it's too many videos. Back in the day you could go
hang in the hood, but now peopleare going to see you when you
walk. Everybody got their phone out.

(20:45):
John Marant, he's just not thinking it.
Hopefully don't get him killed, but those guys got to come to
him. He shouldn't go to them.
That's just that's that's working backwards. *** look, ***
they gave me a $10 raise. I left Cleveland $10.
I'm gone. Y'all fuck y'all I'll be.

(21:07):
I'm *** I don't even. I go to visit.
That's it. And that was all for $10 a hour
raise. Imagine I'm making millions ***
Right now, now, Mack, he is still with no limit.
But of course, Master P is letting you be your own boss.
So you can like, if you want to book your own shows under the
table, meet and greets and all this extra shit, cool, go do

(21:31):
that. OK, But Master P has forewarned
him the same way he forewarned his brother.
See Murder. Now, you want to hear about that
story? Let's go over to infamous one.
She just did that. Oh yeah.
All about that, yeah, right now P was like, hey bro, you making
too much money. Ain't no need to be in this

(21:52):
neighborhood. Ain't no being.
No need to be in these small venues because I can't protect
you over there. I can't protect you over there,
doll. You look like food, bro.
And then not to mention you taking, what, 1015 dudes with
you? Yeah, you liable every *** you
take. Yeah.
So on March 20th, the 2020 firstI put 20s, but I think it was

(22:15):
21st anyway on March 20, February. 20.
First, on February 21st of 2000,Mac decides how he's going to
have him open mic in Slidell, LA.
Now let me tell you something, Idon't drove through Louisiana a
lot of times and I'm going to tell you I would not stop in
Slidell, bro. Slidell work in the same itself.
Listen to the name Bro. Slidell yeah, that sound like a

(22:39):
that's that sound like a damn. Bro it smells broke.
Man sliding a. Bunch of broke *** And you, you
heard about Slidell, right? Yeah, that *** Right dog, he
sound like he steal from you dog.
Yeah, Slidell, in your house. *** yeah, Slidell seems like
yes, the *** would steal your wallet to help you look.
Who steal all your shit bro you got to you be looking for your

(23:01):
phone. You have somebody call this
ringing in this fucking. House.
What's that noise? Where'd that come from?
Slidell can't come back over here man.
So he has an open mic in Slidell, LA right at the club
called Club Mercedes right? Which is another red flag.
Bro. A club named Club Mercedes
don't. It sounds like a fucking hole in

(23:22):
the wall. Sound like a place you go to
after the club. Yes, *** you named any club that
named after something that here for a lot of *** Kayla Ford, you
ain't a good place to go. Come on man, it sound like it
was full of smoke and cheap beerbut he shows up for this meet
and greet slash open mic which Iguess he gonna have a bunch of

(23:43):
wack rappers come up and give him the best 16 or whatever.
But I'm pretty sure that's what it was and with him being a
local celebrity they was probably playing top dollar to
get in there. But this right here told me
everything I need to know about this whole function 1 You got
your daddy working the door. Why that that that told me
everything I need to know. We got real security, *** You

(24:06):
got pops, you got older, you gotpops working the door.
This thing ain't shaking nobody now.
I mean checking nobody. Bro you, you, you got your boy.
You, you got your boy. You got your daddy working the
dough and your mom. You got your Mama working
inside. She.
She. Probably in there frying fish
bro chicken dinners. No, I'm not taking.

(24:27):
I'm not taking my Mama anywhere where I got a problem.
And like you a rapper that like,yeah, of course you like, ain't
nobody going to do that to me. I'm just that, you know, I'm,
I'm riding deep. I got my guns.
Just that and the other. But *** I'm not.
Yeah, I ain't putting nobody in hard way though.
No, not at all. Hell no.
So they hope having this open mic, everybody drinking, they

(24:50):
say it's smoke all over the place.
So, you know, with the sound, with a name like Club Mercedes,
I'm pretty sure it was all weed smoke.
I'm pretty sure it was all weed smoking.
Somebody was smoking, cracking that bitch.
I don't got nobody's name because somebody said let me
tell you, *** be slipping, cracking.
You know, Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. *** slip some cracking

(25:11):
and I don't give a fuck what yousay.
Oh yeah, Now in attendance there's a guy named Baron
Victors Junior and of course he's there having a good time.
I I don't know if he rapped or not because I didn't read no
document said he rapped, but he was definitely in attendance
because you got Mac from no limit coming in town.
So I'm pretty sure of the sold out show having to open open mic

(25:32):
probably was towards these *** 100 couple $100 over the head
just to say they was wack because I'm that's how it goes.
It's all a Ponzi scheme. We're not signing you.
It was close, but no cigar. So Baron Victors was in
attendance, right? But Baron was also in attendance
with his cousin, the thing you took Tillerson, right?

(25:53):
Now they have been, people have been up there back and forth,
rapping back and forth for a couple hours now, right?
Everybody drinking, everybody smoking, everybody finding what
bits they want to leave with. Tonight, and I'm sure my first
Internet good Lord yo shit is not hidden.
And I'm sure I'm sure Mac had plenty.

(26:15):
Of froze up. On now at this time, all of a
sudden, all of a sudden while. What is wrong with my
connection? This is going to be a long ass
attic. All of a sudden, while they are
rapping, a fight breaks out in the crowd, right?

(26:41):
And the guy bearing victors, he has been bust upside the head
with some type of instrument. He'd been hit across his head
with some type. He'd been hit upside his head
with some type of instrument andhe falls to the ground.
And when he falls to the ground,some people are beating his ass

(27:02):
like Kuta Kinte He they are putting belt to ass.
He's getting stumped out, punched in everything right now.
His cousin Nathan Tillerson runsover there, pushes everybody.
Huh. It, it should be good.
I saw it said. I can't hear you.
I don't know what's going on, bro.

(27:22):
The volume went out. Yeah, it came on saying
Reconnect. Can you hear me now?
No, my *** can't hear you, dawg.Yep.
Hello. Go ahead.
Yeah, I hear you now. You hear me now?
Yes, Sir. I'm pretty sure it was.
I'm I'm sure it was still. Good.
But yeah, So what? What?

(27:45):
Why? So it's it's like an Internet is
listening bro. Are you are?
Look at the bars on your shit. See how far you are from your
router bro. Oh yeah, they moving, they
moving. They everything we got.
I'm pretty sure everything I recorded everything I recorded

(28:06):
everything I everything I recorded so we should be good.
We should be good. Everything everything I recorded
right. So what I was saying in case you
missed it, in case you missed it, somebody's rapping already,
right? But in the midst all that
rapping, Baron Victors, somebodyhas bust him across his head and
he has fell to the ground and hands his feet and put on his
ass. Yeah man, they give us *** the

(28:28):
worst case if he getting beat byoh man, they get he's better. #
he can beat. Better pound man A stomping his
ass out, and if he was in goddamn New York, it'd be
Timberlands all over his ass anyway.
His cousin Nathan Tillerson is in attendance too.
Nathan runs over there and he pulls everybody off of him,

(28:51):
right? He pulls everybody off of him
and then put it off. Bah Bah Bah Shots or.
Fights, that's always happened. *** shots are fire, of course,
because what the fuck is security now?
I'll put it like this. I'll put it like this.
Now this is what I know because I live in Houston.

(29:13):
You can. Everybody goes through metal
detectors unless you work for rap a lot.
Rap a lot is carrying guns in it.
I ain't been to one party. If I saw went to any party and I
saw a *** with a rap a lot shirt, they prison them.
If I go anywhere and I see a if I yes, if I see a rap a lot

(29:36):
shirt, I am out of there becausethem *** don't go through metal
detection. And I'm just going to say if
Matt, if this is Max event him nor any of them *** he was wit
went through any kind of security.
And get checked. So shots are fired.

(29:58):
And his father would check it. Shots.
Obscurity. Yeah.
Come on now. You know how this go.
You know how this go. So shots are fired, right?
Nathan runs. A Baron runs, but Baron falls at
the door and everybody says people start screaming and

(30:20):
yelling. Max shot him, Max shot him, Max
shot him. I'm like Matt.
Which I know Matt was like. Hold on.
He just hops and he he wait. Bitch.
Max runs out there and he just jumps into the SUV and bew off
the Baton Rouge, right. He makes it home now back at

(30:42):
Club Mercedes which he where he should have never been.
They didn't even say if his mom and daddy rolled with him.
They just say his ass got the fuck up out of there and made it
back to Baton Rouge because he didn't moved out of New Orleans.
Baton Rouge is a little smaller and it's probably a better place
to be, but it is dangerous. Yeah, left mom and daddy, the
left of mom and daddy. Man, look, he was.
And you know, you can't be associated with no negative
press. But this crazy part with rappers

(31:05):
that can be either they can go really good or really bad.
And now that I think it goes really bad.
Yeah, because these *** don't have as much money as they say
they got. So back at the scene, they are
talking to multiple people and you got a woman named Jocelyn
Hill who says she was sitting next to Baron for one minute she

(31:28):
was sitting next to Baron at thebar and the next thing she know
this *** was getting beat up andshot and they asked her who did
it. Yes, they say she say Mac, she
say Mac did it. She say Mac did it like Mac who?
I went and it's. Like he was the one Oh yeah,

(31:48):
they say, she say he was the onehosting the event right now.
Yoselyn who was the party promoters, a girlfriend.
She said she too saw Mac with a gun.
I'm like damn, y'all said that it was dark and cloudy but y'all

(32:11):
saw this fight and she said I saw fire coming from his hands.
So that is the second person sayhey, we saw Mac shooting.
Not to mention senior McKinley Phillips senior which is Mac's
dad. He said that I don't think
homeboy got shot in the club. I think he got shot outside the

(32:33):
club, which was confusing to me because I read some paperwork
that said he was shot outside and I read some paperwork say he
was shot inside, which makes perfect.
They had no way of like proving it, like even with blood
splatter. Well, I guess, no, I guess.
And that back in the day, they had cameras on those.
Shit, like they. Yeah.
And then we got to remember thisis 2000.
Ain't no ain't no thousand. He fell at the doorway.

(32:59):
Right now. It would be kind of confusing
for him to be getting jumped andwithin the span of a couple
minutes he is shot from a from a*** from outside to inside
because you got a *** shooting from outside to inside of the
club. *** what the hell is goingon?
Yeah, I really think if if somebody was shooting from the
outside in, you would hit more than one person.

(33:20):
True so so more more more. Most likely he got shot inside
the club. Yep.
Yep, Yep. So when he hits the floor,
everybody that came with Baron, they started picking up chairs
and shit, throwing them, they throwing chairs, beer bottle and
they saying Mack shot him. Mack shot him.

(33:42):
And all these witnesses are telling the police that it was
Mack who shot him. That's crazy.
Oh yeah. And a couple hours later, they
have showed up to Mack's house. Mack is at the house in one of
his mini hoes. He already got in the bed, went
to sleep 'cause he'd have made this drive, he'd been drinking

(34:05):
and smoking all night, he didn'tcollected his check and hell,
hey, it's another day because another day I don't got my
money. So what else you want me to do?
Police show up and they arrest this *** and they already have a
search warrant for his house. That quick.
That quick, bro. Let me tell you something,
Louisiana. They called that judge at the

(34:26):
how like little wake your punk ass up for the $9.
Louisiana ain't no place to play, bro.
Ain't nobody trying to be in. Ain't nobody trying to be in
Angola at all. First of all, *** who the fuck
want to be in them holiday jails?
Bro, you remember Angola was theone that'd be like, hey, are
prisoners washed the cars and all this other shit?
And remember when they released all the prisoners that was in

(34:48):
there for nonviolent crime with maybe like drug possession and
shit? The sheriff said that, well,
who's going to wash the cars now?
What, you can hire some people? What the fuck do you mean?
Slavery. It's slavery, bro.
It's slavery. The 13th amendment speaks about
that shit and all that. Everybody is free unless you get

(35:08):
convicted. Unless.
Unless you get convicted. Goddamn.
And then you are a slave, basically.
You know what I'm? Saying and you back at it and
you back at it like a crack at it.
Not in the county. We talking about prison?
No, we talk about prison, not the county.
Well, even the county. You get the oh man account, bro.
I got some stories about the county.
But yeah, when they get to Mac Miller's and when they get to

(35:32):
Mac's house, not Mac Miller, butwhen they get to Mac's house,
they of course ask him about hisshowcase, right?
He was like, man, it was an openmic fight broke out.
Hey, I live. And they're like, hey, why you
leave? You don't want hosting.
You don't want to stick around and see how how shit is going,
right? Why the fuck he was like, I have
to get out of there, huh? No.
Why would I stick around? Why would I say I mean shit they

(35:52):
shoot what the fuck? I'm standing right and mention
he's a headliner. He he's the big man in town.
He can't stick around for those shit like that.
So he made it back home, right, But and they already got an
arrest warrant and a search warrant.
They go through his crib, right?They find multiple rifles, A380

(36:13):
a nine. And he was like, yeah, I got
one. I got 1 gun in my glove
compartment in my SUV, which they all, they confiscated all
of them. Now The thing is, they said none
of these guns, none of these guns had been shot.
Was the one used at the place right they OK?

(36:34):
And so they couldn't they, they,they did not find a gun that was
used at at the at the party, right.
Yeah. So at this point, he's still a
*** So he got arrested for murder because you had multiple
witnesses saying that he was theshooter.

(36:54):
You had Nathan Tillerson, Baron's cousin, saying he looked
Mack right in his eyes before heshot him.
And I ain't going to say this *** lying.
But this *** lying, you look a *** in your eye right before you
shot your cousin. Why?
They could be going too far sometime man.

(37:15):
Like come on, why do you want tokick the?
Gun out his hand or nothing and.Then *** we we locked the eyes.
Yeah, I looked him right in his eyes.
I almost say, almost say he looked him right in the eyes
right before he shot him. I was like, man, this *** right
here full of shit. Yeah, So they get back back to

(37:35):
the station, right? And he tells her, man, I was
just having a showcase. He said, why would I bring guns
in this into this situation? I had my mom there, I had my dad
there. I had my partners there.
Why would I do something like this?
And it was like, we don't know why you would do this, but we
know multiple people pointed outsaying that it was you were the
shooter, right? So he stays in, he remains in

(37:59):
jail. They go ahead and lock him up
because he had nothing else to talk about him.
Like, well, fuck that. I'm, I'm gonna need a lawyer
right now. Less than 24 hours later, Master
P has sent the lawyer of the record company to the to the
Sheriff's Department in to SaintTermini Termini Sheriff's

(38:21):
Department office and they nameda guy named Thomas Williams,
saying that he admitted that he shot Victor.
And you said this is a no? Now.
No limit lawyer. Yeah, the No Limit lawyer went
down to the sheriff station and say we know who shot him.

(38:43):
Multiple people told us who shothim, and it was a guy by the
name of Thomas Williams. Now, the crazy part is that why
nobody said Thomas Williams shothim when they was asking him in
the heat of the moment. I know in the heat of the
moment, everybody saying, hey, everybody saying Mac, it was
Mac. They said it was Mac, right?

(39:06):
So nine days later, Thomas Williams shows up to the he
shows up to the same sheriff department, and he tells them
that, yeah, I shot him. He said a fight broke out.
I broke him up. And when I turned back around
from breaking up the fight, he says a guy charged at me.

(39:28):
And sooner. Sooner than I know.
I didn't pull my gun and I just shot 2.
Times so this is wait wait wait let me make sure I get this
right brother let me make sure I'm understanding what you
laying down right. You're telling me the dude went
in and told them that I would break into a fight and I shot 2

(39:50):
times? That's what that's that's that's
what he said told detectives or whoever.
Yup, he went down there to the station and told him that he
shot the guy. And the police wasn't hearing
none of that because Williams. Bullshit.
Williams claims he was 10 feet away right now.

(40:11):
Baron, I mean, Baron Victors, he's dead and gone.
He's buried already, right? And of course they want to
signal limit, but they said there's no way this could happen
because they found soot basically gunpowder on victors
and they saying no, ain't no wayyou shooting from 10 feet away
in a crowded club and there is soot on him.

(40:36):
So they disregarded everything he said.
So just. Who the fuck Amit?
I mean you got some people that is kind of little little Lulu
long sound little retard, but who the fuck goes in the MIT
that I kill somebody and y'all be like, Nah no, we ain't going
to do that. They were all about it, I think.

(40:57):
It was all about AI. Think it was all about a bag?
They they, it gotta be. Come on, who the fuck that *** I
ain't the *** Walk in and say yeah, I did it.
And they basically talk. Don't know you did it.
Yes, I did. Nah, I know you did it.
Who the fuck? Oh, yeah, that's that bullshit.
Oh yeah. Now, Tillerson, who had broke up

(41:19):
the fight the first time, then got the guys off him.
He goes back in there, he got interrogated twice.
He tell them, Nah, it was Mack'sentourage.
They start beating my cousin up.And then as the fight started,
after the fight, when we startedbreaking it up, they say Mack
walked up with the pistol, bow shot his ass couple times and

(41:39):
that's how it went. So, yeah.
So, you know, of course, at thispoint, you know, Master P is
also doing damage control because at the same time he got
this going on with Mac, he got the same type of shit going on

(42:00):
with his own brother. See Murder.
Yes, that's right. Yeah.
See, murder. We're going through that.
That murder case, Yeah. Not only that, not only that,
it's the same situation, same circumstance, same scenery that
Master P told them to stay the fuck away, away from there.

(42:20):
Small small venues. Like bro you making millions of
dollars why are you at this place that only fit 200 people?
Yeah, you. Probably got 100 haters up in
there. Yeah, and, and it's so So what I
read about that was it said Master P literally warned him on
several occasions. Like hey, look, I get it.

(42:42):
You want to make your own money and I'm not knocking that, but
*** don't make, you know, spot that like you going to he going
to hood spots these hole in the walls yeah, these is hole in the
walls. These the ones that be having
the those and the bitches. If they strip, they get bullet
holes. And you know what?
I'm. Saying Oh, yeah, oh.

(43:03):
Yeah. They let you burn them?
Yeah, tell them back to the spot.
Shit. They let you burn them?
Yeah, you can put it out right here.
Damn ass freak freaky ass *** No, I'm saying so that's what
I'm saying. So.
Freaky ass *** Yeah, and then you making making buku money,

(43:25):
this *** making buku money and you doing that shit.
Yeah, that's yeah. *** be. Yeah, I don't get it, but
whatever. Yeah, so Master P, he's dealing
with Mack, he's dealing with C murder.
Same circumstances, same thing He's been warning, warning them
both about. Right now they have charged Mack

(43:49):
with second degree murder. And the reason why they charged
him with second degree murder because they was like, this
could either be like a crime of passion or a crime of blood,
which that crime of blood shit got to be some Louisiana shit
because I've never heard of it. But that's what they're charging

(44:09):
him with. They think he's a flight with,
so they think he's a flight risk.
So he's being held the whole time without bond until a trial,
right. So he's sits there until trial
while No Limits continues to tour, drop multiple albums.
And my own money they still making.
They didn't even, they didn't even have time to come and sit

(44:32):
in court with this guy. But you know what though, I've
read an article which about Masterpiece said it was nothing
he he said and I I kind of respect this.
He was like look I get what he going through but you got to
understand I forewarned his *** like I told exactly don't do

(44:53):
this and you just basically was like fuck what I got to say and
you do it. So y'all can't expect me to sell
to itself. What I'm doing is support.
No, *** I told you that was going to happen and you did it
anyway. You you know what that is?
This is like when your kids growup because you know my twins is
20 and they love to let you knowman, I'm grown.
Oh, OK, you grown. Go ahead and do it.

(45:18):
I told you already. I didn't told you and then when
it goes back it then when it happens the way I told him.
Now you want dad to fix it? No man, I told you it's going to
go like this. You didn't listen.
What do you want me to do? I mean.
And that's the position you don't put Master P in.
No, I told you this. I told you this was going.
To happen like he did like. And then the crazy part is he

(45:40):
just went through this with his brother.
So I'll be, it's like I'm, I'm living it.
I'm I'm telling you this not because I, I'm, I'm just, I'm
hating and I'm trying to keep you away from money.
He's I want you to get your money.
And that's a beautiful thing. A lot of things that people do
before the deal to 360 deal where like every up, yes, like
get your money. All I'm saying is watch how you

(46:01):
get your money. You know what I'm saying?
Like. All all money and good money.
Exactly. He could have really if Master B
want to be like look you are obligated to me so you can't do
nothing. Like had some signs of contract
but you can't do shit unless. Because you know who forced
their hands more? You know, you know who will
force their hands more than anybody who NFL in the NBA. ***

(46:22):
you, you bet not get on that motorcycle.
You bet not. You bet not.
Go skull. You belong.
To me about Kelly Winslow. Bro, you belong to me.
Bro yes you belong to me me so Idid take everything that you do
and Master P didn't do that shitMaster P like look y'all can

(46:42):
make your money go ahead make that shit be careful man yeah
Matt was on some tribe bro he even said it now he even said he
he said he looked back at that shit and like damn, you know
what I'm saying? Because he he felt a certain way
because he felt like masterpieceshould have been there more for
him. But now that you know, you get
older and everything and you realize like that.

(47:04):
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh yeah. You realize Daddy was right.
You realize Daddy was right? Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I I can't remember telling about some of the bunch
of shit. They didn't want to believe it.
And then this, that and the other.
But now they. Well, they ain't older now
they're only 20. But now they're coming like,
well, then you know, this, that and the other.
This, that, the other. Yeah.
I told you it was going to go like that, but you. *** we were

(47:27):
some kids, so you know what I'm saying?
That was Oh yeah, *** said no, I'm saying we.
I thought I knew everything, youknow what I'm saying?
Yeah, that's the reason I'm talking with two biracial kids.
But anyway, go. Ahead.
Oh, look, your boy was held to trial, right?
He was held in just trial. They thought it was a flight
risk. No bun, none of that, right?

(47:49):
So, you know, the crazy part about the trial was that you had
people like the man you had Tillerson who got on the stand
after telling three different stories.
And they was like, 'cause Tillerson told them that he saw

(48:11):
Phelps shoot his cousin. Then he backed on and said he
don't know if that was him for the sure.
And then he said it was somebody's entourage.
That's crazy. So at this point, we we can't
listen to nothing. You say right, nothing.
And then you had then you had the lady at the bar, Yoland

(48:34):
James, who said I saw fire come from a hand.
But I'm not sure if it was Mack because Baron was sitting next
to me. He was sitting next to me.
We was taking shots. And then the next time I saw
him, he was on the floor. But in her first interview, she
tells them that, hey, I saw Mackpull it out and shoot him.

(48:57):
But she later said that she was coerced.
She said even though she tried to take back her statement that
the DA want to hear that shit. We taking your first statement
and not only they want to take our first statement.
She picked him out of the 24 pitcher lineup.
Yeah, they they were trying to stroke that *** They were trying
to. Stroke.
I don't man. I don't know who Mac fucked

(49:18):
over, but they weren't his ass in Louisiana.
That *** did some shit. He didn't hate somebody.
Fucking old gumbo. Oh man.
And then they end up talking. We end up talking to Phelps
junior, I mean senior, which is his dad.
His dad said all he heard was shots and he said I didn't see
my son nowhere around. My son couldn't have did this.
I heard shots and I saw the guy on the ground.

(49:39):
My son didn't do this. Now I can only imagine that.
I mean, I can see why he said his son don't do this.
First, his son is the cash cow. I'm pretty sure he's damn it's.
His son. Let's be honest, it's his.
Son, and it's his son. But I'm tell you right now, my
son, do the right thing. I might testify bro, because we

(50:01):
can't condone a bunch of bullshit.
Wait, hold on, wait. Hold on, Hold on.
You, you see, you testify. Get your son.
Bro there's no reason for my sonto get life because he just
don't want to tell the truth. It's.
Like this is my thing we. We didn't already raised our
son. We already raised our kids to do
right. Right.
If you clearly did it wrong and it's something you notice in

(50:23):
your child's character and it can be proven or you going to go
up there and say your son didn'tdo this.
No. They show you the evidence.
But but I I'm not going to testify against my son.
Well, I'm definitely not testifying, but I'm definitely
be like. I I get.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. OK.
I would. I've misunderstood y'all about
that. Hold on, *** Hold on.

(50:45):
No, I'm with you now. I will.
Be now my See now you don't know, but I have an episode
called wig one and wig 2 when meand my son went to court and one
of my listeners one day said, hey, did he do it?
And I had to tell him. But what I told him in court was
hey, it was complete opposite because I went in court and I

(51:05):
watched the ass. I beat the mom and the daughter.
They can't be by me. What 400 yards?
Look at man. I told that Lady, hey, don't
come around my house talking about no shit about no gun.
My sons are certified sharp shooters.
Bitch, we'll hit you from 400 yards.
Don't come over here with that bull. 100.

(51:26):
Yeah. Sniper.
O100O100. Sharpshooter Expert.
Expert level. We're knocking heads off.
That's why I told her you can. I told the judge, hey, she
cannot come over here talking about no gunplay.
You you mad at my son? Cool, don't be bringing up guns,
you won't be shot. You got it off air.
You gotta tell me the case. I gotta hear this shit when you

(51:46):
tell me this case. And what the fuck?
We have the same working. Oh no.
Oh man, what happened? Microphone dog?
What kind of shit is that? Bro, I came home one day and I
was about to record bro and I had just recorded with Renee.
I came home. They didn't hook this
motherfucker up. My youngest son hooked it up to
the PS5. He told my hey daddy, your
headphones failed, your mic failed.

(52:08):
It's in two pieces. But what you mean 2 pieces?
*** my son be using my microphone on his Xbox all the
time. At night I'll be hearing move,
duck, shoot. I'm like, *** yeah.
It makes my day to hear my sons in there crying, complaining and

(52:28):
hollering 'cause I know my moneyis well spent and then they're
getting their ass. Whooped my kid be getting.
My day, it makes my day to hear them getting their ass whooped
on that game. I'm like Wi-Fi.
Wi-Fi is really working out, Yeah, Mentioned bro.
Oh my God. It is PS It's three PS fives in

(52:54):
my house, everybody got a 72 inch 1 twin.
You, you *** 11 twin got the Xbox and the PS5.
This is the crazy part bro. This is the crazy part about
that chick. She did not want none of the
stuff back from my son. She just wanted him.

(53:16):
I told her and her mother. Y'all, you got to look hold on.
We're about to talk about we going to look.
We got to talk all for seconds. You got to tell me the whole ***
because we might yeah, the wholestory dog Yeah because yeah,
yeah. So let let, let go ahead, let
let's finish with this man. You got to tell me the whole
story, though, because yeah, this sounds.

(53:40):
So that one of my best. Dives in court and and and and
crazy chicks with Mamas. No, the crazy part was this is
the crazy part about that episode.
I didn't think nobody wanted to hear about my day in their life.
I told them about the day I had and dawg, they were like, they
said that was the funniest shit they ever heard in their life.

(54:02):
And it was like. And then I even gave him a Part
2 because then they took me to court.
Bro, it was crazy the whole time.
January and February was a wild month in 2025.
It was crazy. Yeah, Yeah, definitely.
Yeah, we definitely about to talk about that.
What was that? Oh, yeah, homeboy.
He's been held in. He has been held.
He he stayed in. He stayed in jail until trial.
Right now at trial. Not wait bro, wasn't he?

(54:25):
He was locked up with see Murder, right?
I didn't read that part. No document.
Yeah, he was locked up with See Murder for Him.
They got pictures together. OK.
Yeah. So he was locked up with C
murder. Yeah, yeah, he he was locked up
with C murder and. Was this the time his way for
for trial or just after the trial?
No, it was after. No, after they got convicted.

(54:46):
But go ahead. My bad.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't mean skip ahead, my bad.
Go ahead. I know you good, you good.
So three times to bring me some juice is this bitch ass ***
Well, I got to die. They be doing whatever they be
doing what they want to do. Bro I know, go ahead, my bad, I
apologize. So he is held to trial, right?
OK. In a couple in a couple years
later for some reason it takes forever to go to trial.

(55:09):
He goes to trial and understand you have Nathan Tillerson who
says hey man, this dude shot my cousin and then you have the DA
saying I'm not DA. You have been Max turn attorney
said, but you said 1. He shot your cousin two he
didn't shoot your cousin three one of his entourage shot your

(55:30):
cousin. *** which one is it? And then he also told him that
A, we have a guy named Michael Thomas who said that he shot
him. So do you really know who did
anything? And he was like a man.
It was somebody from his crew. I'm pretty sure it was him.
That's that's crazy bro. I'm pretty sure.

(55:51):
That's crazy. That's crazy as fuck.
My my my freedom is based off what you think, but that's my
life. Bro what?
What do you mean you think dog? Yeah, it was.
Yeah, and then Johann James, thepromoter's wife, I mean
girlfriend, she said. I saw a spark coming from his

(56:15):
hand. And I don't know who hand it
was. But I don't know if it was
really him. He was in the area and then
again, even on the stand, she said.
I went down there and gave them a second statement and told them
it wasn't him. I don't know who it was.
Now this is all I'm going to sayabout all this recanting.
Yeah, I think it was some money being spent.

(56:36):
It had to be yeah, because. Everybody is recanting this
story. Let me ask you like from from
what you from from, you know what you read?
And I actually just listened to a podcast about this is actually
they had a podcast that talked about this whole case.
I listened to it. What do you think?
Do you think that they were based off of what we just said?

(56:59):
So we we not we not about to go.You know, we're not about to go
past what we just talked about from based on what we just
talked about. You got people that originally
stated it was him, him, him. Now they're going back and
recounting you got old girls andhey, I went back and I told them
that it was not him and they still suck it.
Do you think they had like agenda to get this *** I don't I

(57:27):
don't, I don't think they had anagenda, but once we wrap this
up, I I, I was going to tell youmy my real thoughts and I want
to know your real thoughts because this shit got wild
because her, her, her her boyfriend Baker.
He was like he, he didn't, he said he didn't she see, he said

(57:50):
he didn't see Mac shoot nobody. But you got to remember, this is
the promoter. You know, if you were throwing
parties like this where people are getting shot and hurt, how's
that going to work for your business?
Yeah. Yeah, how can that work for your
business bro? I know a lot of promoters.
You don't want no bad business. Even if you were a small time
promoter you don't want no having.

(58:10):
You don't mean you don't want tohave no bad party?
You don't want nothing attached to your name that can.
Not like that. Money.
Hell no. A murder.
Yeah, not like that. You don't want no shit like that
attached to your name, no. Right.
So they had multiple witnesses from the party that came on
stand, I think it was 15 people.And they said he did it right.

(58:36):
But the people that he knew likethe promoter, his dad, the
promoter's girlfriend, they all recanted stories.
And Michael Thomas, his story just wasn't believable because
they said, how can you shoot from 10 point feet away in a
club and there's still soot, gunpowder on a guy in a crowded

(58:58):
club, I said. I'm not, I'm not understanding
that though, right. So maybe and then forgive me,
you know what I'm saying, You do.
I went to Cleveland, Cleveland public education.
So Nick, in my, you know what I'm saying, I told you I was on
the IP. So usually I have a, a, a a case
worker with me. But what I'm I'm not understand

(59:20):
what Jay mean by he was 10 feet away and he can have like what
does I'm I'm not understanding. Am I missing something?
They said with all the gunpowderthat was around Victor's
victor's body, the person had tobe at close range, arms length,
inches like he could have damnedto be point blank.
But 10 feet away is not that far.

(59:42):
It's not that far, but if you'rea crowded club shooting around
*** that's fighting, it should be gun pop like you might hit
somebody else. I I get OK, So what they're
trying to say is because of the amount, OK, I see what you said,
the amount they had to be extremely close, but 10 feet
ain't that far away. It's not.
It's not that far. And then you got a thing though,

(01:00:05):
*** like, look, let's be honest with you.
How many times like for me, I know if I'm doing something of
the job that I got required me to do a measurement, you know
what I'm saying? And a lot of it based I I'll be
fucking shit up. Like I'm like, Oh yeah, that's,
that's about 30 feet they give me like.
It's about 30 feet. Yeah, it don't be nothing.
So it's a possibility that old dude could have easily said 10

(01:00:27):
feet when they were closer than that.
Could have been, but you know, *** dumb they are.
Yeah. Look, I, I really think it was
money at play because they even stated during trial that it's a
coincidence that Michael Thomas only came forward after, after
Mac was arrested and Mac had already been in jail 9 days

(01:00:47):
before Michael even showed up. So they like, well, what took
you so long? Money.
Yeah, all money at play. Because my thing is this, the
security probably would have gotoff or at least got a, a
smaller, but he would have been less.
No, no, his his daddy was at thedoor taking the money.

(01:01:09):
Oh, I thought, oh, I thought youwhen you sit at the door, I'm
thinking the *** was patting ***down.
No $10. Look, the fact that he can put
none of his *** at the door toldme everything.
Can't trust him. He had to put his father in.

(01:01:30):
He knew them thinking was going to be pocketing that money.
Oh yeah. Oh, yeah.
So yeah. So they were just like, hey man,
his story not really making sense because if he knew that we
had questioned everybody at the scene and they was basically
saying that they didn't even talk to him till nine days
later, like they didn't even talk to him at the scene.
Why was he gone if he's security?

(01:01:50):
Yeah. Right.
So during trial in Louisiana youonly have to get majority to
convict. That and so for those who don't
know, so whenever you in trial just you know, for the people

(01:02:12):
that's not educated on criminal matters, when you are a go to
trial and you have a jury trial,usually if it's if you get 12
jurors, if 10 of the jurors say yes and two say no, what is it
called? My brother.
It's a mistrial. Exactly because everybody have

(01:02:32):
to agree. But in Louisiana, which is not
only state, the only state and America that says it's about the
majority. So if you got 12 jurors and
seven say yes and five say no, *** you was guilty, you guilty.

(01:02:53):
Bro. That's the craziest shit in the
world. They just a matter of fact,
because of this case, it got a lot of recognition and they're
just now trying. They're just now changing that.
Do you know though? They just changed that,
actually. They literally just changed
that. Do you know that?
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh. Yeah, yes, that's some boys that

(01:03:14):
that. That's just, that's just crazy.
It's just crazy to be it's supposed to be unanimous
decision and yet. Yeah, you try 7, so 7 people out
of 12 and that's enough for you to fuck me over and I'm in jail
for Oh yeah, that's crazy. Work.

(01:03:34):
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. That's crazy.
Yeah, that's crazy. All right, we are back.
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.
Well, y'all couldn't hear that. I've.
I've learned. I I don't it.
Was running through you, brother.
Hey, look. Hey, look.
Let me show you what's up, Rock.Let me show you what I got
right. Let me show you this what I get,

(01:03:54):
bro. This shit better than rock, bro.
Let me look. Look at this.
You see this? Oh, white bro bro, let me tell
you how much it is. I never heard of.
That you know how much it is. I I was just at the liquor
store. I will go definitely go purchase
some of that. And when I say 17 and I'm
telling you it's better than Ciroc, it's better than

(01:04:17):
Belvedere, it's better than GreyGoose or my Mama.
Like real talk. Yeah, but but *** that shit like
$3540 of the for 5th this shit. Yes, $17.00 bro.
Yeah, Alright, let's go ahead. What we talking about?

(01:04:37):
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
So like like Willie said on themin in Louisiana, majority can
convict you, which is fucking crazy.
It it needs to be united. Everybody got to agree.
You can't send me to jail forever because seven *** said

(01:04:58):
yeah and five said no, that's crazy.
So during the trial, when the jury goes back to the to
deliberation 6 back to six hours, they come back and they
want clarification because it was two things that the judge
told it was the judge gave the jury two options.

(01:05:20):
They said you can either convictfor a second degree murder,
which would give him life in prison, or you can convict for
manslaughter, which will give you 40 years in prison.
And all they wanted was clarification on the difference
between the two. Now, I can tell you the

(01:05:43):
difference between second degreeand manslaughter.
The thing with manslaughter is basically is that I didn't
intend to do it. Shit, man, pretty much
manslaughter was going to be that crime of passion.
Shit, Second degree goes be like, yeah I was shooting but I
ain't mean to. Wait, let back up, let back up.

(01:06:04):
So manslaughter would be. So they just wanted
clarifications on which one crime of passion, like it
happened in spur of the moment. All he saw, he saw blood.
Basically when he said crime of blood, basically he saw radio.
I got you like it was in the moment.
And he did a moment. So after a six hour

(01:06:25):
deliberation, they go back and within an hour they come back
and they convict him of second degree murder like and he was
sentenced to life in prison. Yeah, you do not want to see
that come across your your ballot.
We talk about a Louisiana prison*** hot.

(01:06:49):
So at this point you know it. Oh man.
Hell, the only place worse than Louisiana prison is Mexico.
You don't want to go to jail in Mexico.
All the Mexico I stayed on the resort even though I want to
meet some empanadas, some some some some fresh empanadas.

(01:07:10):
Yeah, because. Real Dominicans.
I kind of. Let me tell you I I wouldn't
because I I would be the neighbor.
That I got my ass. That's a resort.
But could be in the videos bro no.
Man, it was these white ladies that was like, hey.
Come with us, no. This pool party over here?
No. I'll say.

(01:07:31):
Hell no. No.
Man, duh. And and the crazy part was.
Oh, you wasn't. I went to this party and my
friends left without me. Oh, I was.

(01:07:53):
July I wasn't in July I was in Cancun and you, my wife Cancun
against. Rich.
Bro dog, my wife be like, hey, Iwant to do this together and I'm
like, I mean, do I need to pay for this or did you just telling

(01:08:14):
me some shit? You missed a vacation, bro.
She gave she going to be on 10. But yeah, yeah, I just like the
lady said they left her. I was that was crazy.
I'm like, I'm coming back with who I left with, but I chose not
to leave because I was. I don't know how many let.

(01:08:35):
Me see look fuck around when I was in Dr. I see please.
Damn, there's probably some ignorant shit.
I I see how women get raped likeI do.
Would you get that drunk? Like I see it because I it's
because it happened to me. I'm not justifying it.
Hear me out. No, I'm not justifying it.

(01:08:56):
I'm not saying it's right. Rape is horrible.
I'm just saying I see how women can get that drunk and wake up
like what the fuck? It's like I that happened to me.
Yes. Bro my wife now in Cancun, the

(01:09:16):
white lady says what? Hey does your husband like white
girls? What?
I'm like, yeah. Girl are you dog cause hunger?
Hunger had flew solo with a homegirl and say that her husband is

(01:09:39):
at the crib. Look, that would be that bitch's
last vacation. I tell.
Him this she better hope I neverfind that *** number.
Hey man, you only said nowhere. She don't know how to act.
So your boy of course he got convicted of second degree
murder and got sentenced to liferight.
And of course, once you get sentenced to life in prison for

(01:10:03):
a murder or whatever, you you get an automatic appeal and
matter of fact, you get 3. He exhausted all three.
Even though the victim wife cameout and said I don't think he
did this. And still to this the victim
wife came out and said, I don't think Mac did this.
She said his story never changed.

(01:10:24):
He didn't do this. I don't think he did this.
She said everybody want to understand had a different story
on trial from what they had the night of and it was fresh on
their mind. But in but one thing I do know,
like you can't ask a police about a shooting 10 minutes
after because they're they're still not in the right mind.

(01:10:47):
They were panicking. Yeah, adrenaline is rushing.
Everything is probably even moving slow.
So I I get what she's saying butfor us to have that many people
say hey, this happened and then back don't say it didn't happen.
*** Which one is it? Because we can't let him go if

(01:11:08):
y'all stories don't match and then they already know he was
backed by Master P and you know Master P and send down the.
Master P Head lawyer, friend of the best.
He said the best lawyers. I'm so I wouldn't be surprised.

(01:11:29):
We said multiple lawyers, but they only get kept mentioning 1.
So I don't know. I ain't gonna lie.
Master P Pilot only sent one because I told you, I told you
this was going to happen, right?So in jail, of course.
Yes, like you said, they got pictures together.
Like if I'm not and I'm not making this up, I believe that

(01:11:51):
they actually did like a song together while they was in jail.
Yeah, because Mack, he kept recording and he kept writing
and he actually released the album, I think it was 2013 with
Currency Fiend and a couple morepeople out of New Orleans.
I mean, not New Orleans out of Louisiana.

(01:12:13):
And that was. That was who.
In 28 years, in 2013 it was. It was a compilation.
He was on the way. It was it was I can't I can't
remember the name of it, but it was him currency theme and a
couple more up and coming Louisiana artist and he.
Gave him a couple verses. Yes.

(01:12:34):
OK, OK. Yeah.
So, you know, with the way rap is your boy, he kept a pillow.
He was like. Oh, look, real quick.
I'm sorry. Real quick.
I know they use, You do know that was like one of the first
cases where they actually use the rapper's lyrics against

(01:12:55):
them? That.
Yeah, that was one of the first cases, yeah.
Yeah, that was one of the first that outs outside.
That's it, yeah. Outside.
Before him, you only heard aboutit with Tupac.
Yep. So you have people like Killer

(01:13:17):
Mike telling people that it's unconstitutional to.
We know. Art against him.
But we know better. A lot of these *** telling if
Chief came tell me if Chief Q got arrested for murder.
No. And he told me, hey, this just
Art *** I ain't believe a fucking word he's saying.

(01:13:37):
Not a word. Look at young dirt.
He got to the point where these.Young *** like yeah, and then
these *** beast. No *** you just described.
A crime scene. Bro, that whole.
Man, at this point, once your shooter kills somebody, you got

(01:13:58):
to kill the. Shooter, you're going down.
You're going down. Are you go?
Are you going down now, Willie? How familiar are you with
Houston? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So have you? Ever heard that's the one?
That's the one *** that I heard it was real big and his wife

(01:14:22):
going through a divorce and I think then the *** set the shit
on fire. He said.
All on yes I saw that all on video like you see diggers with
big head things of gasoline. Peep this peep this shit right?

(01:14:47):
You got money. Let's say you you making
$1,000,000 No, I take that back.This *** saying he was making
over $100,000 a day, right? He said he made over $100,000 a
day, right? No, I'm not 100,000 not I'm
taking back not 100,000. It was a lot of money.
It was a lot of I don't think itwas 100,000 but when it came
down bro no, no, no. Let me tell you something dog,

(01:15:11):
if you ain't never been to Houston on the weekend, let
alone a Sunday, *** the party never stops in Turkey Lake Hood
headline you was in a Turkey head leg hood line for hours.
Now my wife didn't stand in the Turkey leg hood line for hours
because I paid to get her in line faster.

(01:15:33):
Because you can go on there and say, hey, no, we don't want to
do all this three hour wait. Shit, you can pay.
Is it really? Is it really good and?
Everything goes to the food but you've already I wouldn't handle
3 hours goddamn wait the Mexicans with like I said I
would pay for my wife to go away.
I always. Pay for my leg.

(01:15:54):
I won't eat that over waiting for three hours for a Turkey
leg. I always pay for my wife to skip
that laundry. Bro my wife waited, waited in no
lines. Bro, my wife and her friends
waited in no lines. We made sure that she was paid 8
and we who's sitting in line forthree hours and a lot of people
did because mentioned in line you had circulate hood, you had

(01:16:15):
the daiquiri hood. Everything, yeah.
Man, you had the hookah, man, you had edibles.
You had everybody out there so in line.
They ain't like anybody in line waiting.
Edibles. You already doing, you already
smoking. You don't take a edible.
You got you, you got a you got awhole car show, bro.
Homeboy had not only did he havea Turk like hood, but he had the

(01:16:35):
whole street like in front of infront of his spot.
He's had all his classic cars and.
Never gave you *** you. Had a car show too.
How much? Peep this Making all that money?
Guess how much you paid this arsonist.
Stop fucking lying. 15-15 hundred. *** for 1500, *** I'm

(01:16:59):
telling. And they toll on him.
He went to court today for a bill for he went in.
He, he went to court today for abill here for a, for a bond
hearing and they denied it $1500is what he paid them.
Bro, if you that if, if 1500 is what's going to risk you today
years *** I would have gave him 1000 because apparently they

(01:17:19):
don't know what they worth. Bro what?
Both of them. Got All right, Hold on.
We got hold on. Let's let's go ahead.
Yeah, yeah. We.
We get to talk. Go ahead.
Oh, Oh yeah, yeah. So it so homeboy, all his so
Matt, all his pills are exhausted right So once your 3

(01:17:39):
pills are exhausted, you pretty much got to ride out your time.
Now he was scheduled to be released in 2030, right And at
the earliest he could be paroledwas in 2024.
But after after after his case started getting some more motion

(01:18:02):
behind it and people saying thatyou can't use lyrics in that his
witnesses were unreliable. He actually went back up to the
parole board in 2021. It actually was, Yes, Parole and
he was released February 22nd. He was released. 2021 on parole.

(01:18:25):
Parole, but yeah, but let's be honest.
So. Yeah, because he had been
writing raps. If you listen to this, take the
time to do your research over the case that *** was innocent.
He got I'm, I'm, I really believe he was innocent.
He got dicked by the judicial system in Louisiana.

(01:18:48):
If you got the judicial system that don't give a fuck about ***
first of all, so they're not going to rush to try to right or
wrong. They not going to know what I'm
saying. I yes, they got 24.
And do I think he shot that *** They got 24 years out of them.
Yes, but the point is we have. Bro, I'm so glad you said that

(01:19:12):
because I was going to have bro evidence the *** did it.
They never, you know what I'm saying?
Yes. They that they they never found
a gun. Nobody, everybody kept everybody
kept recounting, counting, recounting, recanting stories.
You had the wife of him, I mean his girlfriend who was it's 20
years later now. But she said that she didn't

(01:19:34):
even believe him. Did it?
He did it. But my thing is you got to
remember how he grew up, how he said he needed this, how he had
the hustle, had to do this, do that.
And the other. I mean, like, it's not for a
fetch if yeah, who was out theregetting high?
They found mentioned. They found all the rifles at his
house, they found all the pistols at his house, and they
also found that pistol in the gun and.
Do the crime so you get to have 38 guns.

(01:19:56):
It don't make a difference none of what you at the end of the
day do I think he did it yet, but I don't think that yes, just
like OJ OJ did that shit. I definitely.
He did that shit twice. *** did that shit.
OJ did that shit bro let me tellyou something.
No almost cut somebody you is mad.

(01:20:21):
They got a series about the OJ. They actually, you saw the
picture, you saw the pitch, theyactually showed a picture.
Yeah, I saw that. I I saw it on.
There like this *** tried to decapitate her but look like
literally if you look they showed a picture and her neck
she fucking hanging back throat me just love me to throat me.

(01:20:47):
Yeah bro, you are. No, Anytime.
You throw the. Knife my *** that shit is.
Perfect. Anywhere.
Stabbing. Yeah, stabbing.
You can shoot a game anywhere. What was that stabbing?
You angry? You want them to know you.
Angry as fuck. So.
So he ain't no getting the pills.
The *** is out. He got a podcast now.

(01:21:08):
Yeah, he did. He was just on the podcast, him
and two other *** and they were just talking about oh, look,
check this out. I got a question for you out of
all the no limit rappers, right?Let's see what you know right
real quick. OK, check it out.
What no limit wrapper? I went to a reunion in.
Houston and started. Two weeks.

(01:21:30):
With Master P left, Master P went to Rough Riders, made beats
for Rough Riders, and then left Rough Riders and signed to
currency. Yes, my *** you know what you
talk about. Yes.
Yep, it got to be seen. Yep.

(01:21:52):
Thing. Yeah, that's not right.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh yeah. Look, I got you got to realize.
Bro I see when I'm in the gym. I'm the only.
One that *** the truth yes thingyou the only one you don't hear
from nobody so let me tell you the real quick the.
Only one that stayed active. One person that they shitted on,

(01:22:13):
but I'm not going to lie, I really fucking liked them
rapping. I did silk.
I fucked with silk my. Silk yeah, you see his and that
his son has ball in NC double. AI didn't know that.
Yeah, his son is on fuck what college his son is in Yeah, his

(01:22:35):
son is in in yeah, yeah. So basically you got some
cousins in NDW NCAA. So let me tell you masterpiece
son, and you got. My song from Silk.
Only if my man could talk. And I don't want to be here if I
don't got a my we have. Oh yeah.

(01:22:55):
Let me hit it. Nah, mine from Silk will Let me
hit it. Let me hit it.
OK, Let me hit. It right now Mack is out.
Mack is out doing good. He did a couple.
He did a couple album. I'm not albums.
He did a couple songs that he put out.
It ain't the same map from back in the day, you know what I'm
saying? So.

(01:23:19):
Well, I wonder why he's not on the.
I'm wondering why he wasn't on that show last year.
Or even on. They'll be in Houston on May
17th. I'm Matt.
Yeah, I went to reunion Dog. Did you Reunion But.
Let me tell you brother. Reunion.
But I tell you, I never seen so much camouflage in my life.
But *** you ain't got mystical because I didn't get.
Right. No, that was the whole thing.

(01:23:44):
Mystical, basically when he cameout, yes.
He only did a couple songs. Everybody's biggest song was
with him. So by the time he was his set, I
I feel like he could have just came out on everybody set.
Yes, he shouldn't have had a set.
He just kept coming out on everybody set.
Another one that was because he's the one magic.

(01:24:05):
Magic was the one that was on that.
But the mother *** 'cause I'm that one *** Yeah, yeah, yeah,
he was on that. But he died, you know.
What I'm saying, I smoke. Yep.
Dude, *** I don't think people really, really understand the
impact mystical head when it came to no liberty. *** Mystical

(01:24:27):
killed. Oh, man.
All right, anyway, we'll go ahead.
Yep. So.
They left the charge. This school is out by now.
Did they? Did they let that?
Because I know they dropped the charge.
Is he out? I didn't know they dropped the
charges. Because I didn't we talk about
the most recent. One wait, wait, We talk about I.
Don't know he's out because he's.

(01:24:48):
Yeah, they I. Didn't know that, I had no idea.
Recent one, the most recent one,they dropped the charges.
Yeah. But I didn't.
I did not see his name. *** it'sright.
You got to probably just separate yourself from that all
together and yeah, but did did this this this this is a man
some time time I had no. Real time for us to believe it

(01:25:08):
bro. Yes, *** mystical, you are a
lyrical genius, but you are a great.
You are great best so all right,so look, that was the episode
Mr. Mack Mack. Look, check them out the best
check them out. Go on Apple Music man, check out
Matt. Matt was the one the most

(01:25:28):
lyrical one out of no limit thatmurder murder, kill, killed.
That's one of the best songs on their mind.
Hands on man. That shit was the coldest word.
And like you said, like before you gave me the name, I had
already heard him rap, but I didn't know who that was you
talking about. Yeah, But yeah.

(01:25:49):
But when I start reaching the Murder kill, Kill was the first
song that came up that I, I think, hit the Billboard on the
top 200. I can't.
Remember, I can't remember, that's the one song that was the
one that came up, man. Good shit, bro.
We finally did it, bro. We finally gave a *** They want
it bro. Oh yeah.

(01:26:10):
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Oh yeah. This is wrapping up my BTC week
I recorded with everybody. You recorded with.
I got another recording on Saturday.
I'm like at this point, like I was I had for real.
Oh man, I have a big interview on Saturday, bro.
A big interview. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, this seriously

(01:26:33):
in my. Eyes.
Oh yeah, I'm happy. Because what bro?
Home girl had a big interview. Home girl had a very big.
Interview. It took me two.
Months to get out, to come through.
OK, OK. Bro, it took a while it took a
while but one thing I have learned about Instagram bro

(01:26:57):
sending people your D DM all in people anybody you think you
want to talk to and give them what they what they do how?
I'm trying to get a poor port mindset.
Yup. No, don't bitches, they find
this fun too. I know you talking about.
My *** man, I'm gonna sell a picture.

(01:27:18):
Me shirtless, my little bitch. I need y'all to do something.
Let me quit. If I get my head in trouble man.
Let me quit. Alright man.
So alright. So what we do now, man?
What we do now, man? Oh I appreciate you.

(01:27:40):
Appreciate you bro. So me and my bestie Tiffany, me
and my bestie, we got the one year anniversary coming up July
12th, July 12th we will be in Cleveland.
We will be celebrating our one year anniversary of Melody
Mysteries. Man, we are doing amazing.
God is good when I say that. I think the fans, we are being
blessed by the strange. Like it's amazing to see every

(01:28:03):
month that we're increasing, we be in Atlanta June.
Oh shit. Oh yeah.
For the infamous ones. Infamous ones.
OK, yeah, my girl case, she having her meet and greet.
We will be there on June. Whatever.
I don't know what it is, man. Don't give me the fucking line,

(01:28:25):
man. I hope I feel bad because you
know, this is like, OK, you know?
I felt with you, girl. You.
You. Know.
I think I know me, me either, yes.
So it's it's sometime in June. I'm not good with that.
We are going to be in Atlanta. And then look, hey, that BTCC,

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what's up? Oh, that's what I forgot the one
question I should have asked you.
What do you think? I think what we're doing, I
think what we are doing, I thinkwe we come together as a
collective and we are the, the, the collabs that we're doing and
we're really taking the opportunity to get our stories

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out there. I think what we're pushing it, I
think that we are just talking, we, we got advertiser people
need to hear our stories. I mean, granted, some of them
horrible, but we do they people need to hear our stories.
And I think that the best way todo it is what we're doing.
You know what I'm saying? Joining forces and really taking

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the talent that we got and just pushing that bitch to the
forefront. Bro, I'm being honest with you.
Oh yeah, Oh yeah, and I like I like, I told the Super at.
Rum. Yeah, let me tell.
I'm very optimistic about this because, you know, like, we

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don't see it. I kept on, I kept on telling him
I said my, my, my thing about a lot of the creators is it's a
lot of women, right? And like I told him, I could
never understand why a lot of the women don't reach out to
women because I shoot DMS to allthe women podcasters and they
kind of be like, yeah. What the fuck?

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Women are fucking caddy and petty dog, you know what I'm
saying? Women do not like other women
that they're like it takes like they're doing better than them.
No, they don't like competition.They do not like that shit.
Man. That *** You're the only two ***
at BTCC. This shit is probably
interesting as hell bro. *** it is 4 coochies in there.

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Wait, 1-2 coochie? It's 4 coochies though.
Just remember that. It's 4 coochie.
No, it's five. It's 5 coochies.
Renee K Britney and I forgot theold girl name.

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Damn, my bad. What's her name?
Huh. Yes, it's fine.
Coochie dog. *** We we in trouble going.
I know, right? Damn.
Bro, they is going to cuss you out in that group text, bro.

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Yeah, *** when I said I was. Beat your ass, I said.
I was going to sit there withouta mic.
I know Tiffany is going to have an issue with that.
I know Tiffany is going to have an issue with that because like
outside of Renee, Tiffany hit meup with some shit, but she's
kind of like, I don't know, Tiffany like, hey Jazz she

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likes. No Tiffany don't do that bro
that's my girl, that's my BFF. She do not go no because she
don't do that shit Dick you don't think has to have his
place. So when you said that shit.
Oh, yes, yes. I think tonight would have been
too much. Tonight would.
Have been too much. First she was like, hey, I'm
coming. And she was like, Oh no, I ain't

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coming. I got a date.
I let me quit, man. Oh, yeah.
So you could go tell everybody what we got.
Little lies and alibis. That's the one you need to join.
That's on podcast. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm bad.

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Let me back up. Love Lies in Alabaz is on
Facebook. We got the Melon 3 podcast that
is on Facebook and as it's also on Instagram, it's just hot
melanin mystery, just how it sound and if you know how to
spell we good to go. Then we got the we got the BTCC,
which is on Facebook. We got the DO, we got the IG.

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Right, Nang Gang. No.
Oh, oh, I know, right? But we the *** they do
everything. They do a lot of shit.
So I think yeah, we got the I GBTCC and then we got it on BTCC
on Facebook. Make sure you guys join.
I'm telling you we got a lot little bro tell you we got a lot

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of shit that's coming up like some some nice shit.
You got all you got 5125 of us right it's infamous ones it's
metal in the mayhem, it's metal in the mystery, it's my
brother's keeper and it's super rare room.
There's five podcasts that's coming together.
We doing big shit so make sure that you guys stay tuned.

(01:33:36):
Join those Facebook groups man. Y'all about to see what's about
to happen man. We're about to make it work man
yes. Hey, one more question, one more
question. What?
City which you mean, do you think?
Would be the best way to go. Well, the only reason I do OK.
So I'm just basing mine off where do you think the biggest

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show would be because I base I'mbasing my opinion off of what
I've seen with black true crime in Suzuki and both of them got
this one city, this one area. Yeah.
That gets the most love and whenI go through my SO.
Let me tell you the only reason I want to say this is because.
They are all. Thinking more or less the

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convenience, right? And that will be Atlanta.
It will have to yeah, I say Atlanta because Atlanta is the
biggest airport. Everybody flies to Atlanta you
get. So I I will have to say Atlanta.
Me personally, if it's not a lot, my second guess will
probably be Vegas for real. Bro it's the DMV bro.

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Did you talk about DC, Maryland and Virginia?
DMV, bro. Oh yeah, it's the fucking DMV.
OK. Yes, yes, yes, that's what.
Though. But you know what though, bro?
That was Chocolate City. Yeah, but that, that makes
sense. Chocolate.
City and that makes all my a lotof my listeners come from the

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DMV, you see. That.
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