The Most High

As a child, Marcus Wayne Chenault was raised in the strict teachings of the Baptist church, never questioning the faith that shaped his every move. But when he heads off to college, his world begins to shift. A chance friendship with a free-thinking spiritual adviser challenges everything he thought he believed, forcing Marcus to confront uncomfortable truths about religion, identity, and who he really is.

Written and produced: King Arthur

Episode Transcript

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Yeah. Somebody.

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What's good word? This is King Arthur, This is not
my brothers keepers podcast. A true crime podcast about black
dudes who kill What's good game.This is actually my second time
recording this. I had recorded the other day
with my boy Joe from this You Can't Make This Bullshit Up
podcast, so shout out to him bro.

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After got to like the halfway mark bro, it was all echo.
I was like what's up what's up, what's up what's up King Arthur
King like all echo. I couldn't get that shit off of
nothing, but I am. It took me a couple days to even
feel like recording 'cause I waslike, I was pissed bro.
I was mad. I was like, Dang, bro, it's like

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like I can record a whole new episode.
I can record back-to-back episodes, but re recording.
But that's the problem. That is the problem in like I
don't give a heads up, but I'm gonna go ahead and give you all
this warning this time all my Bible thumpers out there, they

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let themselves you gang. You can just turn off now,
because this is when you're trying to get gang but anyway,
'cause the one thing I don't look me in the past that gonna
never see how that game ever manlook anyway anyway we we yeah

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let's let's get the story going.I'm sure sure y'all been like
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yeah, thank you all for listening bro she'll be OK game
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You do what you got to do and then you got to episodes.
But there's only exclusive on Spotify game.
But yeah, let's get it. Let's get it cracking.
Yeah, there's a guy by the name of Marcus Wayne.
Should not. I'm gonna go call this fool

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Marcus because one, I can't pronounce this guy's last name
for nothing in the world. And he was the youngest of three
and he's a weirdo. Yeah.
He was born in 1951 in Winchester, KY.
His parents was Marcus in Helena.

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She'll know, but she know. But I can't pronounce that last
name, bro. Just take it.
His Mama name was Mark. I mean, his daddy name was Mark
and his Mama name was Hinder, right?
And they was devout Baptist in the church every week was it
Wednesdays, Sundays, 911 and one.

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Look who, man, Ain't nobody, ain't nobody got time for that
though. Ain't nobody got time for that.
Look at man. The best thing COVID did was
letting people stay home and watch that church from the house
because why 'cause you don't need to get in people.
Your your, your ties, bro. Stop giving them people.
If you stop paying ties, bro, I bet you them past the change

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their opinion on some of this stuff.
Yeah, they man, look, no, I ain't coming to pay my ties and
I ain't and I ain't linking no bank account to that church
either, so whatever. So yeah, this man brought me to
this church on time, bro, and the fucking pastor said don't

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want you go to a nice restaurant.
And they did, you fool, right? They deserve you, right, don't
you? Don't you get him a tip?
And I'm looking like, yeah, whatthey tip the pastor Mega?
Was the service Good. What the hell you talking about,
man? Look for a pastor.
Hate to see me coming, gang, I'mtelling you.

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But anyway people say Marcus wasa nice young man but his family
ended up moving out of Winchester to Dayton OH and when
he graduated from high school hewent to Ohio State where he was
started off studying pre law. But when he realized hell this
shit is hard he switched it to education.
And ain't nothing bad about thiswith we meet all teachers right?

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But I mean you these yesterday ain't got to get no education
these days. You can be communication and go
take that test to be a teacher you certified and you in that
game. Yeah, just got to make sure you
get in a good district that's paying some shit money.
Well, look, all the teachers I know is making bread, even
though I do be hearing Peaches tea saying oh, we don't make
enough. I'll be trying to figure out

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what the fuck is enough because I know my partners make some
bread. I got cut out.
I got I got a couple teachers. I got a cousin, 2 cousins and I
got 1-2 disposable and I ain't like hey, hey look man, if you
want to be in medication, you godo that.

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It's money there. So I don't know what people
complain about, but maybe ain't enough compared to what they say
they go through. I don't know, but I ain't gonna
knock one more money whatever. But anyway, when he was in
college, man, you know you were to college bro, you, you away
from your family and stuff like that.
So if you away from your family with your home time, you also is

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away from your church and all these colleges they all have
churches either they had yeah, they have churches like on
campus. I know Prairie had one camp.
I'm pretty sure all these big ones did too.
So everybody got cards gang and Uber wasn't around this time.
So to a ministry on campus is what's good right.
So he started going to that He started going to that church.

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You know, he started going, he started going to the church,
right? You know, still going off what
he was taught. You know, he, he was carrying
his Bible around everywhere. Bro, what the fuck is wrong with
you? Bro?
You look like you seem like a school shooter walking off that

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Bible in your hand. OK, Put it in your backpack
somewhere. Why are you caring about like
that? And not only was he carrying
that Bible everywhere with him, this me, this went for parties
and everything. Yeah, he he cared about
everywhere. Like, bro, don't come into my
Bob to my house. I mean, I'm a house.
Don't come to this club. Well, we don't come to 30

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Thursdays, wet Wednesdays, freaky Fridays, midday Mondays.
Don't bring that Bible, bro. We drinking, we smoking.
Why are you bringing that Bible,bro?
That Bible catch on fire walkingup in here.
Tell you, bro, don't do that. And not only was he carrying the
Bibles, he was also trying to quote scriptures while he was

(07:56):
dead, Bro, Ain't nobody got timefor this.
Nobody got nobody got time for this bro.
But anyway, as he's getting further and further away from
home life and adapting the college life, he eventually had
got some interest in the Hebrew Pentecostal Church of the Living

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God. And this is where you can find
Hebrew Israelites man Let me tell you something about the
Hebrew Israelites. Damn.
Because it's scammers though bro.
I have not met 1 yet. It was not scamming.
They all for to take you to the promised land.

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They all they all got multiple wives and not only got multiple
wives when you go to whatever they call that space they
worship at. I can't even think of the name
right now. Men in the front, women in the
back. Oh shit women have to be seen.
I heard gang you shut the hell up us me and appears talking.
You sit your ass in their back and shut up.
I don't care if my other wife dowalk up in here.

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Y'all don't speak. You sit over there, she sit
right there. Y'all are two separate family
gang. You both buddy.
Shut up though bro. How do y'all fall for this shit
bro? Every Hebrew Israelite I've met
bro is a scammer. Scammer doll.
Every single one. Every single one I've met, oh,

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10 for 10 scammers. That's what I'm saying, bro, you
don't. I'm just I'm telling people
don't listen episode you, you, you, you mad about it is ass on
you gay? And it was nice knowing you
'cause this just tell you what Idon't.
But anyway. And if ever cheating, bro talk,

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you got 2 wives or three, you still got room to cheat.
And then once he cheat, he brings home, he's gonna bring
her. She's gonna be No 4.
But whatever, whatever floats your boat.
Now the homie is running around universally acting weirder and
weirder 'cause he's in the foundthis his, his mind is open now.
Now he don't believe all the stuff that his mommy and daddy

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been saying right now mommy and daddy was wrong, right?
And people started like getting away from him, right?
But it was like, dude, we can't we, we're not rocking with you.
You went from this to that like day and night, brother, Cause
'cause the Christians in Hebrews, well, they go, they
definitely preaching two different things.
But not only that, he is just changing for the worst because

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he's not, he can't, he can't keep a girlfriend.
He's weird. He has a nappy Afro.
He has big ass bifocals and he's, I think he's short, right?
So he decides that eight, I'm gonna play his cute dog.
And the cute dog did not accept his monkey ass.
Yeah, all they did was sit him through the ringer, beat his ass
and told him he didn't make it. Well, I literally just need

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somebody to beat up all. But in March 73, Marcus O Clown
as visited another scammer namedHannibal E Israel.
You know, his government name isStefan Hallman and he was a
alleged spiritual healer and he had mixed Marcus head up like a

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blender. Marcus don't know which way is
up at this point. The crazy part because he he had
Marcus believe in that the Israelites of the Old Testaments
were black and the American slavery had been a punishment of
the sins and they're all black ministers, false shepherds.

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They got to go. They here got to be cut off.
Not tomorrow, *** Right now theygot to go.
You know, this makes probably sense.
Every is right when I tell you bro, I've heard these people
talk the foolishness dog. But so these two dudes, they met

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like 5 times, but yeah, Marcus met up with Israel 5 five times,
right? But they was always on the phone
talking about this and talking about that, right?
And of course, he's letting he, he's letting he let, he let Mark
Israel, let Marcus know, man, these ministers got a guy.
Gotta go. Hell, Jesse Jackson, everybody,

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all these muscles gotta go. All these false shippers, they
gotta go. I want all the heads cut off.
And he is telling him that this is what the Most high wants.
What? Your higher power wants you to
kill people huh? In your crazy part though, I'm

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telling you they still believe this.
They still believe this bro. Just talk to me.
Just me some Israelites, bro. They think they're better than
you. They think they're better than
you bro. Don't get them scammers.
No money. Tell on him.
Tell the telly fucking wives to work shit.
I don't give a damn. Tell one of bitches to work.

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How you gonna have 5 wives and you didn't all of the work?
No, it's if I got 5 out all of them working.
I'm not. But shit.
What? I mean shit, you got five of
them and one of me. Why am I doing this, right?
So anyway, your boy Marcus, he flies back home, right?
And he starts telling his own. He started telling his Mama

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about what he's been learning, right?
And I he's he's like his mind isopen and he can see it better
than what it is, right? His mom like bro, look, I ain't
trying to hear that shit. Yeah, I remember they brought up
Baptist. They were in church it all Week
2 times on Sunday, right. So she wasn't trying to hear

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that shit. She was trying to hear that shit
at all, right. So he goes try to spread the
word to his old man. His old man said look here Bear,
if you don't get out my face that bullshit, I'm gonna cut off
all your college allowance, right?
And he was like, daddy, this is what I believe this, that and
the other and this is what I believe and I'm not going to
change for y'all. I'm open to the world now I see

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what's going on and you y'all just got this shit on y'all the
way y'all believe in this white man's Bible and this and that
and I just say get the fuck out of my house.
So your, your boy went back to college, right?
But the funds have stopped. Yeah.
Your boys started dropping classes left and right and had

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to go get him a job, end up dropping out of school in
December. Yeah, yeah.
But he wasn't that far from fromcampus.
He's actually right off the campus.
Had a 22 that a student two-story apartment where he
would blast hit where he would hook up his speaker and get him

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a microphone and preach his preach his fairy tales over the
loudspeaker. And one day he was arrested.
Well, back in the day, didn't take much for no *** to get
arrested. So yeah, he got arrested, I
think told him turn that shit off.
He wasn't going forward. He wanted to get his word out.
And they locked his black ass up.
Disturbing the peace, disturbingthe white man peace, right.

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So anyway, after that, you know your boy has a a pure hatred at
this point for for for Christianity.
He don't care nothing about it. It all about Israelites.
And I know he's sitting up your money 'cause that's how they
work. That's how they work.

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You can't get none. I know his rebel like they
didn't cost you nothing, not a word, not nothing, nothing.
They always taking a trip somewhere or so up.
Supposed to take a trip somewhere.
They never go game. Never.
And at this point, you know, hityour boy, he went back to his
home and to visit his parents one more time.

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And while he's there, there's a break in at the family house.
Yeah, there's a break in at the family house.
Somebody has broke into the house and stole two of Marcus's
father's guns, 2 pistols. Right now, your boy Marcus, he

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like, hey, what? Me?
And he hopped on him up. He hopped on him.
He hopped in him a taxi that evening and he headed to a guy
on the bus to head to ATL Shouty.
And you know, he he was on that plane.
I mean, he was on that bus all night.

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He didn't make it to ATL till that morning, right?
And when he got there, he, he yielded him a taxi.
It's 7:30 in the morning, June 30th, 1974.
And he asked them, do you know what the Ebenezer Baptist Church
is? And it was like, yeah, I know
what I said. He say, do you know if Mr. and

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Missus King be there every Sunday?
He's like, yeah, everybody don'tmiss him.
His king there every Sunday. He's like, cool, what time it
starts? It ain't started yet.
It's OK, Cool. Can you take me to the Holiday
Inn? So he gets dropped off at the
Holiday Inn, right? And he's he's there for a couple
hours, right? And then while he's there,

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somebody orders room service, right?
Somebody orders room service, right?
And when the room service is delivered, a guy answers.
Now this guy was not Marcus. Who was it?
They never confirmed who it was.I'm gonna say it was a boyfriend

(17:55):
cause apparently people heard him and some guy and they're
talking for a couple of hours now know what kind of talking
they was doing. But when you see Marcus is
screams gay. Yeah, he probably but it seemed
like he was trying to hide it. They said he had he couldn't
keep a girlfriend. Of course he couldn't.
He didn't like him. He liked the men bar he liked

(18:16):
the men game. But anyway, at 9:30, your boy
calls for another taxi. And this taxi picks him up from
the hotel. And he asked him a take me to
Ebenezer Baptist Church. He's like cool bet.

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Homeboy drives him over there tothe church.
He pays for his fare. And then he walks into the
church and he sits in the back alone.
I mean, real Dylan Root Light. Yeah, aired me.
And then he was approached by one of the deacons and asked him
what he did. He want to join the men's adult

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Bible study class that was aboutto start.
He was like, cool, I'll join. And he goes in there and he
joins the class, right? He goes in there, sits with the
gang, joins the class, listens to stuff he's heard for years,
'cause he grew up as a Baptist, right?

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And you know, the class is over and they come back out.
They come back out. So the rest of it so so the real
church, so the so the main eventcan start the main church
places, right. And they got him in the a man
section right now mention I don't know what the fuck the a

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man section is. So I had to ask him.
I said, Hey bro, what is the a man section in the way he the
way it was told to me is those are the hype man.
He says the pastor is preaching in the Amen section is listening

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for cues for them to jump up, fan at him, throw the
handkerchief at him, dance to still get jiggy with it.
All this shit over there. I said what I say.
Hold up. There's cues for this.

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I said, dog, you should never told me that shit that you
should have never told me that. I mean, I figured it, but I had
never heard. I never heard of a man section.
No, never, never heard. But anyway, he's sitting at a
man section, right? And he's about four feet from

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the from the organ player, right?
And he sees Mr. Missus King, that's who came to see anyway,
right? That's who he came to see
anyway, right? So they are getting ready,
they're getting ready to play. They're getting ready to go into
some song, right? You know how they do they get

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anything to get ready and go into some song and you know,
he's just there for the he's he's there.
He came to praise the word and meet Mr. and Mrs. King.
And the choir is getting with itright now, right?
Like the choir is getting at it.You know, the choir is really

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getting at it right? And homeboy it is pissing him
off because this is what he believed in.
No more right? And they just going at it.
And eventually they stop singing, right?

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And they put their heads down toprey.
And when they put their heads down to prey, he said, I'm
taking this shit over bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.
He shoots Miss King and when herbody falls, he runs up, Bah,

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Bah, Bah, Bah, shoots into her body, Bah, Bah, Bah.
Now he's shooting into the congregation.
Yes, he's in shot Miss King, he's in shot Edward Boykins and
another churchgoer, right. And after he empties out his,
his two pistols, he runs out thedoor, right.

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But he didn't get far 'cause he was arrested there.
But yeah, they transferred. They transport Arab boy, I mean
Edward Boykins and Miss King to the hospital.
Where did I? Yeah, they died right there.

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And this family, the King family, has been going through.
It's been tragedy after tragedy,tragedy after tragedy.
Just six years prior, her son, Martin Luther King Junior, had
just been assassinated. A year after that, one of her

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sons drowned. Miss King was going through pure
hell. And this is the thanks I get now
your boy, he's been arrested. No, but of course, you know, he

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sits in jail. He's been he's been Miss King,
an Arab. It would broke into being buried
and gone. And eventually they end up
talking to your boy Marcus rightnow.
He tells them, hey, I was sent by the most high.
My job ain't done. Did not tell y'all the most high

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school of shit. He he he said the most high.
He said it was a list of 10 people that he would ready to
clap in The first one he was trying to kill was two weeks ago
was Jesse Jackson. Think about it.
He couldn't pinpoint where the hill Jesse Jackson was right?

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So he said he scratched that like, you know what, let's go to
the King family. They high profile, they they'll
be easier to target, easier to target seeing if they go to that
church every every every Sunday and preach right now.

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Now your boy, he's he, they end up talking to Israel, you know,
the guy who ministers him. And he was telling him that
Marcus is one of his best students he ever had.
And he said, all I did was open his eyes to this world.

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And we like, bro, you sent this dude on a crash dummy mission.
Why didn't you go? Right?
And not only that, they also insinuated that Israel might
have been the guy that was in the hotel room, but it was never

(25:36):
proven right. So when they're asking when,
whenever they're talking to Marcus, of course, they asked
him since that since what made him lose?
What? Why did he leave school?
He was like, well, my parents got off my allowance.
So I started doing a a bunch of odd jobs, right?
So I had to do stuff to keep my lights on, keep keep me and rent

(25:58):
free, Keep me down here close toIsrael.
What bro? Do you like this guy right?
Do you like this guy? So anyway, homeboy sister to try
right and he tries to plead insanity and I'm like, bro, the
only time he was insane is when you thought you could plead

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insane. But ain't nothing wrong with
you. You just said you wanted to kill
10 people. You said just Jackson with the
first bro. You said you mean you said that
with a clear mind. Ain't nothing wrong with you for
us nothing. So anyway, psychiatrist

(26:39):
diagnosed this guy with schizophrenia.
Bro I don't care he should represcribe that beforehand and
ain't nothing schizophrenia by this dude.
He's just a weirdo. He just got manipulated by damn
Hebrew Israelite. He sent him on the he let this
guy talk him into a a crash dummy mission that he wouldn't

(27:01):
do. He's sitting for telling you
these people gotta die, right? He's telling you he's a
spiritual healer. How The spiritual healer doing
this much damage? Bross.
Oxymoron. You a healer and you're doing
damage? Come on now.
Make it make sense, dog. That don't even make sense.

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You're telling me you you're speaking good unto him, but
you're sending him to destroy. Yeah.
OK. So he goes to trial and he's
found guilty. He's found guilty.
They give him life in fucking prison, right?
And after he gets life in prison, of course, he appeals

(27:45):
it, right? And it's upheld, right?
But in 1990, five, 1995, he is resentenced to his life in
parent, just life in prison. Right.

(28:05):
So he'll still get out, not get out.
Right. Because less than three months
later, your boy, at the age of 44, has a stroke and dies.
Oh, and I take that back. He was on death row.
And when he had that stroke, he was still in death row.

(28:27):
They hadn't moved yet. So he still end up dying on
death row. Yeah.
And at the funeral, he was preceded by his his siblings
saying that he was a good brother.
No, your brother was weird. Your brother was manipulated.
And another thing, when, when, when he was in jail and on trial

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and first got arrested, people started interviewing Israel Dog.
I looked at these interviews bro, I'm going to tell you right
now he was talking crazy. That's why it's hard to find
this shit. They don't want this shit
displayed nowhere. Homeboy didn't hit the homeboy

(29:07):
did not help Marx at all. All he was doing even those
interviews was trying to spread his word.
Bro you just talk the guy into killing people make it make
sense. But anyway homeboy is dead and
gone. I don't know what happened to
Israel or scamming ass, but you know, if you go listen to my

(29:30):
arm, go go jump on my Facebook discussion group.
Is that not my brother's? Keep it on Facebook if you want
add space. Not my brother's keeper at
Gmail. Brothers spell BRTHAZ.
You know, shout out to the BTCC that's smelling in mayhem,
Millennium murder and a sip of red rum.

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That's the gang right there. Shout out to my other two
partners, big near from killer talk and find the vine from
cocktails and crime. You know this all gang over
here. You know, even who is Jayden
Harlow from the missing found podcast?
She just got back on her shit. So you know it's up, gang.
And until next time, please.