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April 6, 2025 • 105 mins

Tyler, Texas

March 2022

Timothy Jones is paranoid out his mind to the point he thinks his roommate is setting him up. Worst comes to worst and her lets the mind gets the best of him.


written by King Arthur

special guest boo thang: Leslie

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(00:01):
What's good world this is King Arthur this is not my brother's
keepers podcast, a true crime podcast about black dudes who
kill. Now welcome back.
We back for another episode in just a couple of days because
shit, I had such a good turn outon the last episode because I
have been gone 2 weeks and I gotdeath threats and all kind of
warnings about how they can catch me outside or I mean crazy

(00:24):
right? But so today, since I didn't
know what to do, I found this story.
Now let me send apologies to thehost of A Sip of Red Rum,
because I definitely promised them a show.
And then I looked up on this show in Texas.

(00:45):
I'm like, damn, I need to hold this shit for them.
When I started to put something out beforehand and I was like,
I'm just gonna put it out and give them two episodes, right?
But I have a guest today and canyou please introduce yourself,
gang? It's me.
It's Leslie. I like, I don't know, I'm your

(01:05):
new best friend. I found you on Instagram.
You said to hop in the DMS and Ihop in the DMS like hey, I found
your podcast. And.
We've been chopping it up ever since.
How long have you been into TrueCrown?
I, I was thinking about it the other day, like when I was like

(01:29):
when we were talking and I had to think back to, I think I'm
gonna have to say it was 1988 since 1988.
And you want to know why? Because my favorite show was
America's Most Wanted. And I remember I used to watch
this shit like every Saturday with my family.
And I remember like the, the, itwas like 1800 crime 88 'cause
remember they changed the numberon the end after every year.

(01:51):
So for some reason 1800 crime 88is stuck in my head.
So I've been, I've been in true crime since then that then I
made my way to cops and stuff like that, you know, all the
TLC, Forensic Files, all the gambit of that.
And then during the pandemic I got into podcasts and true crime

(02:13):
podcasts. But that was like what, early
2000s? I didn't find you and everybody
else until like last year. Good shit.
Good shit. Yeah.
What about I say? So what other podcasts we listen
to? OK, so I made the way around.

(02:36):
You know, you start with sisterswho killed 'cause that's who
comes up on the chart 1st. And then I found infamous ones
and then I found crimes and cocktails and crimes and she
gave along with and she gave a long list of shout outs
Wednesday, right. Like it was like she was just
like starting the episode and she was like, OK, I know like I

(02:59):
run out of episodes. So if not, listen to and you
came up bitch, I can't Melanin mysteries.
Gang. Like, like all that whole little
circle. So then I was, I was locked in
with everybody from like first episodes.
So the way you guys all shout each other out is really how I

(03:21):
found it. Oh yeah.
Is there if you could pick me torecord with anybody, Any other
podcast? Who, who do you want me to
record with first? I I already told you, it's you
and Willie. Let's, let's practice saying it.

(03:45):
Let's practice saying it. Melanin.
Melanin. Melanin, yes.
So I think you and him would be hilarious because both of y'all
don't really have no sense. So I like that about y'all.
What are you drinking or smoking?

(04:08):
OK, I'm drinking in preparation.I'm not really a big drinker but
a raw for special. People tell us they're not big
drinkers though. For special occasions I do too
much, for special occasion I do too much.
So I went to the daiquiri factory that we have here and I

(04:29):
got the little, I don't know what is it?
It says a court. I got it's the hypnotic and
Peach. And then you said we were going
to do a shot, so I figured like I feel like your story is going
to be something hood, so I had to go and get the Hennessy just

(04:49):
for the one time, for the one time get.
The Hennessy. And then, you know, and keeping
with my job, you know, I have a little, you know, a little 20
times, you know. Well, that's what I got going

(05:17):
on. I'm drinking a Arizona mixed
with a little pink Amsterdam andsome OK tell I don't have any
Hennessy because usually I have my listeners.
I'd like a poor but not my brother's keeper.
Now if you want or a new listener but not my brother's
keeper is simply your favorite Ciroc pink Whitney and lemonade.
Me, I use the Ciroc lemonade. Now my wife says that she

(05:40):
doesn't like the not my brother's keeper, but we have 3
kids so she ain't never been bothered by little Not my
brothers keep playing my do you hear me game.
But anyway bro, this is going to.

(06:05):
We're going to make it. We're going to get through this.
She's going to be like, stop messing me on the damn show.
Listen, I told you I just all I want to know about your wife is
where the wigs come from. The amount of episodes you
complain about the wigs. I was like, these wigs must be
fire. I need to know.

(06:26):
Bro, when I tell you these wigs be like she goes in there and
they just see, they make them like she pick out the colors to
do this, to do that again, it's all made through.
It should be expensive bro. That's why we going to keep you

(06:47):
pushing out these episodes. Mama need Weeds.
We got to get you higher, higherfrom themselves, get you some
commercials. So look, do you listen to like
dateline or or 48 hours? Yes, I love Dateline 2020, 48

(07:08):
hours, all that stuff. Yeah, I I will always still
listen to them because those were like at first we just all
those is true crime, you know, but it's like, you know, black
true crime is like it really should be his own jar because I
don't really like I said it before, I don't really want to
look through 100 white ones. And then a lot of me
discontinued. So you know, like don't tell me

(07:28):
we could get this four part series was dropped in 2020 and
it's still at the top. Like how who listened to this
shit after the 1st 4 episodes wejust delete it?
Yeah, it was a lot of them that I had started like listening to
like the advertise and listen toit.
And then I was like, oh, it's only like one or two parts, and
then I'd be waiting for episodesand then they never come.
Again, they never come. I just move on.

(07:50):
I just move on. I don't know.
Oh yeah? Well.
I got y'all. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gang, gang, gang gang.
Gang, gang, gang gang. Oh well, let's let's let's get
this show started. I'm sure I got a couple
listeners looking at me like a *** when are you going to start?
Looks like no one is particularly Gordon.

(08:11):
She's already promised to catch me out in traffic so I'm on my
my head be on a swivel in these H town streets.
But. 'Cause you, 'cause you did too
much. You did too much last week.
You did too much last week. And you knew, man, you gave me
that. I I'll give you credit.
Whenever I go to Dallas, I'm gonna Doug the only ass.
I swear to God it'll be chicken.Chicken.

(08:32):
Give a disclaimer. Chicken waffles and Hennessy and
Dougie is what all I'm gonna do.I'm like, hey man, don't hate
me. Hate the paperwork.
And you know what's crazy? You know what's crazy?
I really wanted to say somethinglike on my show, but I know I
will get all kinds of backlash because the people who did the

(08:54):
show, even though we've named itdifferent and also did two
different perspectives, 'cause my my perspective is always from
the guy, never the woman. Since their group moves like a
cult. I'm just gonna let that shit
slide. Just let it go because for those
of us who are a little on the slow side, it took me a minute.

(09:18):
I listen to what you're talking about, right?
You not the only. One I listen back again and I
was like, wait, that's not the same.
And I realized because you were calling him by his last name,
the video you were calling him by his last name.
So that's what was I was like, wait, it's not.
It's not into the jail, raggedy ass.

(09:44):
Shaking ass. Need a tune up as PT Cruiser,
man. Look, I feel like this.
I'm gonna definitely take it. If I'm gonna do some shit like
that, I'm definitely gonna be driving in the car where they
can get me to 100 miles quick. That shit was shaking all the
way up to 40. I feel like a Honda, a Nissan
Altima. I feel like those are like the

(10:04):
good girl car crime cars, the PTCruiser.
Cruiser sound like you got the kids and bad wigs and then she
had both, but whatever of which.I blame you for making me go
down the rabbit hole and findingthe damn music videos and
listening to the damn interview.What the hell was even that

(10:27):
like? You know, it's crazy.
You know, it was crazy when I heard them talk about her being
on that other podcast. That's a legit podcast.
Like they're like pretty big in Dallas.
That podcast. They just, they just it's just
not true crime. They just, there's this more
like hood shit, rappers, dudes out of prison.

(10:48):
It's just some shit that I don'treally be into and let's say
interview somebody I know. But they have a nice fan base,
so I couldn't understand why. And they're black-owned, so I
couldn't understand why they just can say that podcast name.
They've been around for years. They have a lot of subscribers.
There's all their content is allvideo, but it is where it is.

(11:09):
Whatever, if you know. That's what it is, Yeah.
Those advertisements for PC cruises.
Ever. Man, look, what do I say?
Did I tell you what I was drinking yet?
No. Yes, I think you did.
I think I did, yeah. Look at the alcohol.
Must be already kicking in. Oh, oh, gang, gang.

(11:33):
You know how you're rocking, youknow how you're rocking.
But anyway, I'm, I'm gonna go ahead and give y'all what y'all
are here for. We're heading down to Texas,
Tejas to some of y'all, but we gonna be in East Texas, Tyler,
TX to be exact. And this is a small spot, a baby
about an hour and a half outsideof look, matter of fact, let me

(11:54):
take that back maybe 45 minutes to what I would have mentioned.
I'm from East Texas. I'm just not from Tyler.
I'm from actually nature's whichis outside of Palestine and
Palestine's a little ways out ofTyler, which takes you back to
Dallas and *** in Dallas and Tyler are almost the same Jerry
curl leather pants wearing *** That's what they that's just

(12:17):
what they do, man. Look, if I'm lying, anybody that
go to pair anybody, anybody that's been to Prairie
University in your first time meeting somebody from Dallas and
it was a guy they had a shag andthey had on leather pants or
shorts in the summer. Guarantee it.

(12:38):
Oh, OK, well, look, we heading to Tyler, TX man, and there's a
guy by the name of Timothy Jones.
He was in these streets, you know, like most of them is for
some reason. They they, they all want to be
St. into the streets. Come calling.
Even in Tyler, huh? Always man the streets is
everywhere cause a lot of times dude dudes from Dallas when they

(13:02):
get in some big shit they run toTyler cause Tyler is is smaller
and you can hide. I was like, it sounds so nice,
it's so lovely and like, I want to go to Tyler.
Nice *** out there. Oh, OK.
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
If he, if he, if he caught somebody in Dallas, he
definitely head in the Tyler or Palestine, TX.
OK. We don't want that then, OK.

(13:25):
Oh yeah, getting back in the car.
OK, running back in the car. It's a guy, it's a young man by
the name of Timothy Jones. He, he, he was out there in
these streets and now he, he kind of backing off these
streets, right? Because you know, he got two
kids with his ex, right? They got two kids and he moved
into this. I would say it was an apartment,

(13:48):
but I've been to college before and this was more like a fucking
dorm. Look, just a little reference,
just just to show you how this shit is set up.
Anybody that went to pair of youthat stayed in phase one and
phase two, you walk in the door,there's a common area.
Then you got a room to your left.
You got 2 rooms to your left, 2 rooms to the right.

(14:09):
OK, the the the middle part of the common area, you got this
room, that room, that room, thatroom, right?
Mention you go in there, you getlike a twin size or maybe you're
in a full size bed. Cool.
That's only person that can get in you and whoever you are
banging it at that time, right Timothy?
He moves into that one room right with his girlfriend.

(14:32):
Oh, that's the whole apartment. Just the room.
No, the room. Oh, oh.
So Timothy moves himself in thatroom, his baby Mama and their
two kids. Oh, who you say?
Yeah, bro, that ain't enough room for nobody.

(14:55):
Oh hey y'all, he raps. Come on.
Come on. Yeah, man, you know.
Not again. Yeah, man, come on.
He grinding out here? Not again.
He just want to be a plumber. Nah, man, he's saving up the

(15:16):
studio. He's saving up the studio time.
Oh, he a plumber, right? He laying?
Damn. Oh.
Man. OK, alright.
Do we have any of his music? Have we heard any of the music?
I heard no music. I'm just going off what he said,
she said. And I when I looked up court
documents and interrogations, I ain't heard a rap song yet, so

(15:38):
the *** could be lying, but thisis his story.
So anyway, him and the baby Mama, they in there and she's
telling him she's tired of this shit.
I'm tired of you being broke. I'm tired of living in this damn
room. I I'm tired of not having no
privacy. Because you got to remember
there are other tenants in this house.

(15:59):
Who's he? Got a?
Guy named a guy named Anthony Wilson and the guy that comes
around that he calls his cousin brother or whatever, you know
whatever this dumb shit they sayname OK Christian Polk, right?
So cool they be they all be there right now he's dating his
baby Mama, right? And sometime the baby mama's

(16:21):
sister come to visit and I'm like, visit the room.
Wait, so how many people we're at now?
Wait, OK, we got them two, the two kids that's 4, The roommate.
Anthony, that's 5 you got Christian at six and then
sometimes guests come over to visit them and she he all he
mentioned was his her sister. That takes us to seven.

(16:42):
And like, what if everybody got company over the same time?
I mean, everybody ain't hanging in the same room.
So I mean everybody gonna be in the same the common area.
The common area. But the common area ain't that
big. OK, it's too.
Hot fucking mess It's. It's too much going on already.
OK, so I'm ready. The sister is over there
sometimes, right? And she informs Timothy who

(17:04):
smokes weed and I actually thinkhe was selling weed actually,
because I wouldn't. I could never understand why
this guy was so fucking paranoidabout fucking Anthony.
So he she tells him, hey man, your boy, your boy Anthony.
When you go in the room, he always going in the room is I
think he's listening to what you're doing and saying and

(17:25):
stuff. And I'm like, unless you're
actually doing something, why would they should even fucking
matter? Why would he be listening?
I. Guess.
Yes, I'm blessing their closets are together because Timothy
smokes in the closet, which is Iguess he I guess he hot boxing.

(17:47):
I guess he hot boxing. He going to feel that small
swing closet full of smoke. I bet he being a whole coughing
up the stuff. Oh man.
Coffee in the closet. In the closet.

(18:08):
Yes, I'm sure, I'm sure Anthony heard him coughing up a lung was
like, hey man, you all right in there?
Or at least listen to make sure he don't fall the fuck out and
they have to go in right. So, so his ex baby Mama, I mean
his baby Mama puts this bug in his ear like hey, what?
A sister puts his bug and is like, hey, man, I think home
will be listening to your conversation and shit, 'cause

(18:30):
she was like every time you're in the room with your door
closed, he walks by the door andthen he goes in his room and
shit like that. She like, but look, you just
never know with women, right? But this is what she tells him.
And he goes into fuel fed panic because apparently Timothy has
burned some people in the streets and they want his head
top, they want his head cut off.They are saying he the police

(18:54):
and it's only one reason. Not, not a snitch.
It is only one reason for them to say you the police *** Only
one. What do you do?
What's the reason? The thing?
What was the reason? What?
Do the told on Playboy. What have you told who?
Who have you told on bro? Now the other guy Christian who
he calls his brother or his cousin or some other dumb shit.

(19:18):
He is 18. Well, when he was 18, he was
arrested for robbery, but he's hanging around Timothy.
I'm guessing he's hanging aroundjust to see when he can either
rob this guy or bang his cheek. He's on the round.
Two things. Or.
Smoke in the closet? Maybe grab a little session in
the closet. Bro if both of them do this look

(19:41):
if both them dudes are smoking in the closet I guarantee they
kissed each other. OK, no, because I'm OK.
I'm just saying, some people when we were in college, you
know, you're not necessarily supposed to be smoking in the
dorms and sometimes you have a little session in the closet.
Ain't nothing wrong with that. It's just a little hot box in

(20:01):
the closet among friends. Why do I just smoke outside in
the backyard? Because it's cold.
Oh wait, y'all in Texas? What?
My bad. No, this was in March of 2020,
March of 2022, So and Texas is already heating up.

(20:24):
So yeah, it would have been hot.It would have been hot.
So he's been living there a little while, right.
And the baby Mama say fuck this shit, I'm out of here.
I ain't got time to this. I need a real man.
And she left his ass and went back home to mommy.
But that was yeah, she she moving on the bigger and better

(20:46):
things. I I hope.
But like as soon as she packed her shit and walked out, a woman
by the name of Aetna Jones has moved right in.
God damn man, who would be slanging some serious.
Dick wait, who? Who?
Who? Now Aetna Jones is the new
girlfriend. Now they do have the same last

(21:07):
name but they never said they was married in nothing I read
but they could have same last name I don't know but she moved
in. Peep this with her two kids and
one on the way. What was it his that was on the
way? Yes, Sir.

(21:29):
He's OK. So he already had his girl and
his two kids living in a dorm room, and then he was apparently
cheating on top of everything else.
And then when she moved out, he moved his new baby Mama, two

(21:52):
kids back into the dorm room. That's my man.
Thank you for my. I man, my man.
I man my man, my man she she looked at the Xbox, she looked
at the baby Mama like another bitch is lost is another bitch
is game. No y'all both lost.
How you don't let his baby Mama stop you from finding your next

(22:16):
great love. You can't damn me.
Don't let don't, don't, don't let that man's wife stop you
from finding your man. OK, you gotta keep striving,
keep pushing so. Anyway, she moves in and he go

(22:39):
immediately gets to gets her to cooking, cleaning and whipping
her ass. You know you.
Got oh not that beats by Dre. No man beats.
By Dre. Like a motherfucker.
Let me know Me. I don't.
I don't beat up no woman. This is just a story.
Across the bitch head is where he lived, you know?

(23:01):
Oh man. Because he don't got no room.
It's the crampness like that cause irritation like dorm rooms
is not made for like multiple people and family and newborns
and stuff like I. Guess they was fucking in the
shower bro. Wait, where was the shower?
Was it the communal shower in the hall?
Definitely wasn't no shower in his room OK?

(23:24):
Continue. So, yeah, so she moves in with
her two kids and his baby that'son the way.
And she loved this man. She'll do anything for this man.
But at this point, your boy has had enough of Anthony.

(23:47):
He's like, hey, man, do you be listening to my conversation
some shit? *** you sound like you'd be
right up by my damn wall when I'm in there smoking and
drinking and doing what I do. He's like, man, you know, I'm
RoboCop, which why would you call yourself RoboCop?
And did not think you doing someshit like that behind my back.
That's like, now my ears are really like, *** what?

(24:08):
So, yeah, so they had this little disagreement and Timothy
let's it slide. Like, bro, don't be coming by my
door when I'm when I'm in my room, when I'm in my house with
my door closed, don't be walkingby my door and coming in your
car trying to hear what I'm doing.
Mind your fucking business. So one day he's in this smoking,

(24:29):
one day he's in a smoking, right?
And he has his music up loud, right?
He has his music up loud. Listen to some whack shit.
I think he's listening to some mammy cash, a bunch of shit, a
bunch of whack shit, bad wig, red ass, whatever PT cruising

(24:51):
his bitch, whatever. So I think, yeah, right.
I think he's in some, I think he's in some mammy cash or
whatever, you know, OK. And he turns.
That in the closet, OK. He's, yeah, he turns that white
shit down and he says he can hear Timothy on the phone, which

(25:11):
sounds like Jimmy the landlord saying he's in the closet right
now. And at that point this could
have been this *** just high as shit.
He walks up say hey man, I told you man, stop listening to my
motherfucking conversation. Mind your fucking business,
homeboy answered. Like look bro, I'm not by the

(25:34):
wall. I don't know what you got going
on. This is not me.
I I'm not listening to your conversation.
What the fuck you got going on Now?
Of course he ain't told him that*** want his head top and that
*** want his head in these streets.
So he's just paranoid. So of course he goes back to the
room and he's telling Aetna man,this dude is a bitch.
He knows it in the motherfucker.I need to hurry up and get my

(25:55):
shit together so we can move thefuck out.
And she's like, yes, be yeah, wewe do need our own shit.
And I'm like, and you chose to move in with this *** Dad, do
your situation got to be to moveinto a dorm room with two kids
and one on the way? But they upgrade into the senior
suite 'cause, you know, when youget to senior year, you get the

(26:16):
bigger joint, you know what I'm saying?
So yeah. They trying to get to the, they
trying to get to phase three of phase when you get to the senior
suite. You.
Got the bathroom in your room. All the people PV y'all know
exactly. Come on, talk about I earn these
phrase I got here. Yeah, I don't gotta wear flip

(26:36):
flops. A man wear flip points in the.
Shower your boot thing, you can just sneaky sneaky licky and he
can walk around your room butt ass because hell ain't nobody
going to see him. Yeah, his girlfriend, but he
hiding over here and. What you doing?
Man, look, so now at this point,they've been living together for

(27:04):
a couple of months, right? And your boy Timothy, he is
getting more and more paranoid. To this day, after all I've
read, I still don't know why these people are after him.
But he's outside, he's seeing cars pass by, he's seeing people
at night, he's, look, I don't even know what he's smoking at

(27:27):
this point. To be seeing all this shit
'cause we don't. We know, yeah.
Do we know if he's switch something?
Is he lacing something just. Hey, it's getting to the point
where I'm thinking he's getting to the point where I think he's
smoking embalming fluid. Why are you hallucinating bro?
He's tweaking. Too bad he's tweaking.

(27:48):
Too bad he's constantly seeing, he's constantly seeing people
outside. He's constantly saying his
suspicious cars running by, I mean around by the house when
Jimmy has company over. He thinks all of these people
are watching him like he he he is.
Does he have the OR does he havemental illness on the lobe that

(28:08):
we don't know about? All these *** go to jail, claim
mental illness but. What if it's real?
He could be real crazy. He could be.
Why? Mental illness never stop these
*** Why mental illness never stop these *** from fucking.
Because it don't never do that. I don't know why the voices

(28:28):
don't never tell you not to hunch.
I worked in the mental health field for 23 years.
It don't never tell them not to hunch if you tell them a whole
lot of other shit. You know what I forgot?
You and your Dick are two different people.
Like for some reason, like they might forget a lot of stuff, but

(28:48):
they don't forget that I'm. Going to tell you right now your
body and your Dick are two different people because R Kelly
already told us once. My mind is telling me no.
But your body, oh man, R Kelly. R Kelly's body was doing a

(29:10):
little too much. Me too.
Remember we had a whole catalog about being in the closet.
That was a long ass song. The closet.
Yeah, I never hung out in the closet, so maybe I don't
understand, but maybe some shit really be going down in the
closet that we don't know about.A little off topic, I don't

(29:31):
know. One more time my cousin got
jammed up. OK.
I guess this chicks either either her parents came home or
her boyfriend came on and he went from the closet to fuck
that to out the window. Boom, landed on his chest, laid
there for 5 minutes. I'm like what?

(29:51):
Yeah he didn't even land on his fucking feet.
I would've just waited. Let him fuck her.
Hopefully she they go to sleep and then go out the front door
'cause I ain't jumping out no window.
But what if you don't know if they have like squeaky closets
and stuff like that? The closet cause sweet the the
anything he has to take the chance while it presented to.

(30:13):
I mean I don't know why he did the belly flop but.
That's why you got to keep $40. Take her to A room.
Oh, what is the $40.00 for? Oh, I thought it was the, you
know, the naughty 40 I thought you were talking about for the.
Naughty 40, That's a new one. You need that.

(30:34):
I'm going to use that, man. Basically, you need the Naughty
40 now you need the naughty 40 plus another 40 for the room.
Hey, I'm saying like this *** only got $40.
You fucking in the back seat because now I can't even afford
the room. Make sure it's a PT Cruiser.

(30:58):
I got some room back there. Look at the man.
If you got to get her in the back of the PT Cruiser, you
gonna be standing on the outsideand she's on the inside.
Yeah, man, that's. No way to love.
OK, OK. OK.
OK. Let's get back into it.
OK. You know what?
They could flip in her van. She has and the Jones has a van.

(31:19):
So you know, she got three kids.I mean two kids, one on the way.
I guess you could count her as one of the kids because I mean.
He ain't doing shit. The thing about this apartment
is that the thing about this apartment is I'm just going to
say this dude, they do like no credit checks and nothing.
It was more like, hey, I got thecash right now.

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Let me move in because I mean it's like a four, four room dorm
and like people with like a little bit of credit or at least
a job or decent job, they're notmoving into no shit like this
unless they're like a teenager trying to get away from mommy
and dad, right? So anyway.
Alright. He's he's complaining to it.
And again, like, man, this dude's getting on my nerves,

(32:02):
man. I think he's watching me.
I think he's stalking me. I think he's listening to
everything I'm saying. And still, I don't know why he's
so paranoid. So anyway, homeboy start by go
buy him a gun right 'cause now he is scared.
I don't know what this guy's smoking for.
He is paranoid as. Shit, right?
So nobody else in the house is listening, just this one person.

(32:23):
Like nobody else in the house islistening.
Only Anthony Wilson is the only one that he says is listening to
his conversations. OK, but what are these
conversations? What are they coming?
What the hell will you be talking about that Anthony would
need to know so, so much about? What is he?
Exactly, because my whole thing is like when you run into like a

(32:43):
small person that's doing this shit or they ain't ran no credit
check, they did no background check.
They just let you move in, bro, as long as you got the cash,
they let you stay. I guarantee it.
So it ain't gonna be like no, I'm I'm did something get kicked
out right. So so on the night of.
Confused. Exactly, on the night of March

(33:05):
25th, 2022, they're just up at the house, you know, in the
house chilling. You know, Anthony has walked to
his room to go to bed, right. You know, of course, Anthony,
I'm not Anthony. Tim Timothy has moved his family
into their their apartment and they're getting ready to go to

(33:26):
sleep, right. But of course, before he gets
gets his family together, he gotto get him a little smoke in.
Yeah, he's gonna have the kids gonna go in there is them kids
gonna be high when they go to sleep too.
They don't get a good nap, right?
So. Contact.
They never hurt nobody. Right.
And I'm just gonna get to see, Imean, whatever he's smoking and

(33:49):
shit, I don't know what it mighthappen.
Shit. OK.
So maybe no contact, maybe they don't.
Even right so. Anyway, take that back.
So anyway, he's he he's in theresmoking, right?
And again, he's smoking in the fucking closet.
And this time he don't even haveno music on because he's putting

(34:09):
put the baby to bed, right? He says he hears Anthony like
grinding up against the window, like not the window the the
wall. Like if he has an ear I'm going
to say he had a fucking cup because they grind.
Say, was he like the cup he had the all the old?
School, I think it was a fuckingcup.

(34:30):
It had to be because he kept on saying he heard grinding on the
wall. So I'm saying it must have been
a cup, right? So at this point he's like, man,
fuck this shit. He grabs the hammer, he runs out
his room, close the door, boom, start kicking at apartment B

(34:50):
because he lives in C He's cake in that apartment B, right?
But his motherfucking don't Anthony.
Oh, I'm a busted bitch down right now.
It appears that the rest of his family asleep.
They don't hear none of this shit.
I'm going to say they hi how youdon't hear this shit because
he's kicking at this door, right?

(35:11):
And boom, he kicks it in and he pulls the gun out of Anthony.
Hey, man, I'm tired of you listening to my motherfucking
phone calls. I'm tired of you listening to my
motherfucking room trying to hear what I'm doing.
Mind your fucking business was like bro.
I'm in the closet when I'm in the closet.
You. Should my goddamn business.

(35:34):
When I'm in the closet, have my long time with my little Shorty,
you shouldn't be able to listen getting your rocks off.
When I'm giving her my 3 inches of fun, you need to mind.
This bro you need to make. Your business over here, man.
I got some shit going on over here.
And of course. You listening?

(35:54):
And you listening bro? I love her.
This is a private moment. A mess.
This is a mess. So of course, Anthony, like,
fuck you. Get out of my apartment.
Or in a teenager's mind, get outof my room.

(36:17):
Get out of my fucking room. Get out.
Of my room. Get out of my room.
So of course the struggle is on.They start fighting and
wrestling. Timothy has pulled out the
hammer. He's beating them across the
head. They're knocked over lamps and
then shuffled up the bed. Anthony is starting to get his
ass whipped because this guy gotthat old man strength.

(36:39):
Anthony is 26. This guy is 53 and he's showing
him. He's showing this young buck
that hey, don't let the size fool you.
Alright, So Anthony is not Anthony.
So Timothy is getting beat down by Anthony who was listening to
all his phone calls him making love or sex or just whether this
girl, whatever you want to call it, it's all the same shit.

(37:02):
I mean, I guess you kiss. I mean, I guess when you kiss
this making love like I guess, but you look at the back of head
so whatever anyway. Hey man, what what what?
Drake said. He's a beautiful outlook at
missionary. So you this only dog is started

(37:24):
to tell you a lot. Gang gang.
Gang. Gang.
Anyway, they're in there fighting and shit, right?
Apparently nobody hears this right?
It's a guy that stays in the other apartment, which I never
figured out who this guy was. You're right.
OK, Anyway, Anthony, who's been listening to all the shit he's

(37:46):
doing, he's he starts beating tempted ass and like, you got to
remember Timothy's high shit too.
So he might he might think he's getting beat up by four or five
people, right? So he pulls out, he he pulls out
the gun and Bah shoots him rightin the head.

(38:07):
Brain matter all over the wall. Oh man.
Blame. All over the wall, right and now
Anthony has fell down. He's on the ground bleed.
He didn't bleed everywhere. Now where Anthony?
I'm not Anthony now Timothy who just moved his family in.

(38:30):
He raps OK and don't have a car.He's like, man, fuck, let me use
my girl's phone to call somebodyhere to help me with this.
Yeah, He ain't got no phone, y'all.
He's. Using wait a minute.
You don't have a phone either. Hey man, you got big Dick, is

(38:56):
that? A fact.
A Why, you say? That was that in the court
documents? Was that in the court documents?
I mean what you call big. I don't know.
I, I don't think I've ever come across.
Damn. Damn Lee.
You gotta be something 'cause *** ain't got no money.

(39:17):
Yeah, he barely got a place to live.
He. Barely OK, and he had to borrow
her phone. He don't even have a place to
live. He has a look.
He don't even have a place to live.
He has a space to live. This is your space right here.
Oh man. So he calls up the gang, well

(39:37):
not the gang. He called up his homie
Christian. I'm not going to call him all
this, all this shit the whole time 'cause he got 4 fucking
names on here. Christian Nevon, Whitney, Polk,
*** please put these *** name down to three.
First middle stop all that otherhypnated shit.
Why this guy got four names? I'm calling it as Christian,

(39:59):
right? He got he got a double middle
name. I'm guessing or his or his or
his last name is hyphenated, butall the news reports and
everything, it was all one thinggoing across.
There was no hyphens or nothing.OK.
So this is who he call when he'sin the clutch, OK, because.
Christian, you got to remember Christian got in trouble in his

(40:19):
18 before robbery and he, he, hekind of beat that and got along
a little bit of probation. Is he kind of like off the
paperwork right now? And the police know him in
Tyler, TX very well, right? So he calls his boy Christian
right now this one Dumber gets Dumber.
Now he comes over right and say hey, I need to help me with
something. Chris, what do you want me to
help you with? Hey man, just come over here
bro, man, I got some shit that just popped off.

(40:40):
I need you to come over here right now.
Right now Christian gets over there like what's up?
He points at the body *** That'swhat's up.
Shit, Chris. I mean what the fuck happened
man? This pussy ass *** been
listening to my calls, he been listening to me talk, he'd be
listening to my every time I close my door, he's listening to
my door at my fucking closet. This pussy ass thing had goat

(41:04):
right? So he said.
So what you going to do man? We gotta get this mother fucker
up out of here, right? Mention.
What are some things you should have?
Tell me a couple things you think you should have when you
plan on moving the body. OK, you have to have like tarp

(41:25):
something to wrap it up in. OK, from what I've understand,
bodies are heavy as hell, so definitely need more than one
person to transport. And I'm thinking the top thing
is you need some form of transportation.
OK, Good, good, good, good. Those, those, those are some
good ones. There's never had none.
He had none of that. Oh oh wait wait, so did how this

(41:49):
friend get to the house? I might have walked.
They didn't say he disappeared. Maybe he flew.
I don't know. OK, so peep this.
Peep this so these fools realizethat dead weight is heavier than
live weight. Peep this.

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They didn't have any gloves and his head is bleeding everywhere.
So they go into the common area,which is the kitchen and living
room, grab some grocery bags, put it on his head, tie it up,
zip tie it, tie it as tight as they can get, Right.
OK. Then they go to his room and

(42:33):
they're here, man. Take these Nike socks, put them
on your hands. So now they both put Nike socks
on their hands and then they go back to the kitchen and get
grocery bags and time on each other's hands.
Bro dog, those are not gloves. But in the meantime, too, you've

(42:59):
already touched the plastic bagsthat you wrapped around his head
before you got the gloves. So your prints are already on
the they don't watch. They didn't watch for like the
clouds and stuff like that growing up, did they?
That's the point. Rappers are smart bro.
Too late. And I think sometimes when the

(43:20):
people use the socks on the stuff, you can still get like a
full fingerprint from the blood inside the soccer.
Yeah, look. Like this, if you ever bumped
your toe and you hurt your toe really bad, that blood is going
to go through your sock it. Really does it really does.
So yeah. So no.
Latex. No latex.

(43:42):
Yeah, he raw dogging all the waylike he ain't using no condom in
the bed or picking up bodies, but whatever.
OK, I'm. On OK, we we gonna get there.
We. We.
All of a. Sudden don't get it together.
All of a sudden Edna Jones wakesup because she say her dirty
asked me to take a shower. Hold up.
So you got in this damn bed withyour kids dirty bitch.

(44:02):
Whatever. So she.
Is just now waking up. She didn't hear the gunshot and
is just now waking up. No, that body, that body has
been on the ground for a couple of hours now because she woke up
at 3:00 AM. He could, he, he, he shot
Anthony around 1:00. And now it is now on March 26th

(44:25):
of 2022, homeboy went to bed a little bit before midnight on
the 25th of 2022, right? She wakes up and she says she
sees an unknown man with trash bags on his hand.
With, with, with, with her with,with her baby daddy, with her

(44:47):
baby daddy rapping Anthony in a fucking comforter.
Like it gets worse, bro. Blood is gonna soak.
That's the. Comfort.
A black comforter at that. Like it like it didn't even
matter, right? I wonder if it's like that
comforter that everybody has, you know, that Walmart one that
everybody. Came from look here look here no

(45:08):
seeing how people. Share from Walmart.
It it can look Tyler, the biggest store there is probably
going to be Walmart or the mall and everybody stops at Walmart.
Everybody's had a cover from Walmart.
If you say you haven't, you a damn lie.
So they wrap him up in that cheap ass thin ass comforter.
That and they might need more comforters, but they realize

(45:30):
this *** is heavier than what they thought.
As hell. So they pick him up, right,
mention they have, they have, they have smeared blood on their
door and his door and they take his, they take his ass out the
kitchen. They look mention they're
dripping blood the whole way. They're dripping blood the whole

(45:50):
way. They drip blood from his.
Room. They've drift blood from his
room, through the kitchen, out the back on the porch, onto the
carport. Then they throw him in the back
of his Ford Explorer. Oh yeah, they better steal his
shit. Oh, OK, so somebody does have a

(46:14):
car. Wait, we got a car?
Yeah, Anthony got a car. This.
Is progress, I mean RP Anthony No, but OK, they're getting
somewhere I guess. Yeah, but they have already put
fingerprints on everything on his on his apartment and on
Anthony's apartment, of course, right now.

(46:38):
And the walk sounds like, hey man, what the fuck is going on?
And in true abuse, the abuser fashion in Ike Turner fashion,
he tells her he's a. Bitch, bitch.
Bitch, mind your fucking business.
Matter of fact, since you want to be up all up in my business.
What? I need you to do is get that

(46:59):
motherfucking bleach, clean thatdoor, this door, clean that,
come clean this fucking porch because we got to be the fuck up
out of here. And you know what she did?
She should have went back to bed.
No, she went straight to cleaning.
She went straight to cleaning. They throw him in this fucking,

(47:25):
they throw him in this fucking Explorer and they're gone,
right? And they drive to this wooded
area where they struggle to get him out and look OK.
How far are we talking about? Put some distance.
I'm sorry, about 10 miles because they had, they had to
get him a four way from this house.

(47:45):
They had to get him to a wooded area, right?
They drove through this wooded area that's close to a lake.
Now, anybody that knows anythingabout lakes, you don't want to
drive up on the lake knows first.
Not only do you not want to drive forth face first, you
would probably want to do it in something that's 4x4 like my

(48:06):
truck where I can like if I get stuck, I can get all wheels
turning, not just two. So he risked it.
They drove right down there, They drove right down there,
pulled his body, they struggled to get his body out of this
Explorer and they threw him on the ground right and up in
Smokey Go, Humble was lit on fire.

(48:30):
Wait. OK, Anthony has been lit on
fire. OK.
OK. That's the progression.
OK. It would be progression if he
stayed lit Oh. What?
Oh. Well, they realize that they're

(48:52):
not, man. Yeah, well, I don't think they
had enough lighter fluid 'cause they didn't stop at any stores.
They. Didn't.
Oh, OK, So what did they use? I don't, I don't know, some sort
of, some type of incinerant. I just know it's black.

(49:13):
I mean I just know his ass was lit on fire OK threw out like
trash and then when they try to drive back up like when I told
you to need a 4 by 4 the fuckingcar get stuck.
They don't know about mudding and all that other stuff.
They should. They live in fucking Tyler.
That's damn near the country. I mean, it's now.

(49:34):
I'm gonna have some time with me.
No, it's not in the country. It's close enough, *** And when
you leave outside of Tyler ain'tnothing but country.
So you're not that far fetched. I'm pretty sure this spot was
the country. Anyway, they finally get the car
out right and OK. He goes to a place where most
*** go when there is some deep shit where you think he went.

(49:58):
Mexico 'cause isn't it close? Doesn't everybody go to Mexico?
He went to Mama house, he black.Oh, God damn.
Oh, see, I was. Oh, OK.
I was thinking big. I was thinking big.
I was thinking big, and that waswrong with me.
I was thinking big. I was trying to have high hopes.
I was. I watched too much TV.

(50:19):
OK. Oh yeah, I was thinking big.
OK, Mama said. Oh, oh, OK, OK.
He drive where's? Mama at again.
Mama's about she's on Alice Street of another about maybe
another 10-15 minutes away. He drives to Mommy's house and
parks the and parks the car on the back of parks the car behind

(50:41):
the house. OK.
Dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb, right?
Wait, he kept the car. He didn't get rid of the car.
No, this is he. He did it.
He did that for. You know is 'cause you know,
it's like hella tire prints at the body and stuff like that
cause of the mud and all that stuff is literally gonna make

(51:01):
its own like casing and stuff like that.
He's stupid bear he go. I mean, he drops the car to his
mom's house. He tells mom I am leave this car
in the back, I'll be back after a while, right?
So he walks OK to back where he was going, right?

(51:22):
But Christian, Christian knows what's up, and he is in the
wind. He got up out.
He got up out. Christian is in the wind.
Got up out. Christian is in the wind.
He's out of there right now. While all of this shit is going
on, Anna Jones has been. Cleaning her ass.

(51:49):
Up. It's blood all over his house
and she just been over there clean and clean and clean.
Like bitch, why aren't you just moving the fuck out, right?
Because she has a van, right? But this is the part of the
story that got lost. OK.
She was texting somebody to bring them her van.
I'm like who the fuck has your car?

(52:12):
So she was lending out. The van, I was thinking, I would
think that maybe they would takethe car and someone would follow
in the van, dump all that shit, light all that shit, and come
back in the van. No, somebody has a van.
I still don't know. I went through all kinds of
shit. I went through all type of
interrogation videos. I don't know who had the van.

(52:32):
She's calling somebody get a van, right?
But now it's about 7:00 in the morning, right?
Edna gets the phone call. Who?
Who you think called her? Who's calling Edna at 7:00 in
the morning? Babe, Mama.

(52:54):
The first baby Mama. Yes, Sir, Where is Timothy at?
Where is Timothy at? I've called this motherfucker
quite a few times. This motherfucking answering
where at Aetna said girl this *** didn't.
Fucked up big time this time now.

(53:17):
She started telling. She said I think he killed
somebody last night and they left and I saw the body out the
back door and she stole it all. The 1st baby Mama has plenty of
sense, she said. Girl if I was you I would call

(53:37):
the police on his black ass right now.
Tell it who? He who tells it first tells the
truth. That's what the people say.
Edna said no, I can't do that Edna.
Edna after Edna told her that she couldn't do that and that

(53:59):
she will let her know that let him know that she called she she
message, she she went over thereand she called her own people.
Yes, she called her people and told them that she told them

(54:23):
what just happened. She said, I woke up this
morning, Timothy and Christian was carrying a body out the back
door and he told me that I need to clean up all his blood and
everybody she called 'cause she called multiple family members

(54:43):
and they told her, hey, you needto call the police on this ***
But Edna was like, no, I can't do that.
Why you can't do that, Edna? This *** gotta go.
Why is she calling everybody with this foolishness?

(55:04):
I feel like she's just out here making hell out accomplices and
stuff like that and silent witnesses.
I don't want no parts that why is she calling me and telling me
this and not calling the police.I have no fucking idea but.
You know what? Fuck, you know what?
It's fuck Edna you really you know she doing too much but go

(55:28):
ahead. So Edna, so in the eventually
her and her kids and the one she's carrying her belly, they
leave and I'm guessing it's on feet because she never said she
got picked up, right? Wait, where's the van?
They still ain't found her van. Somebody has the van.
I swear I could never figure outwho had the van, but she was
definitely calling. Somebody to.

(55:50):
Bring her the van, right? But The thing is, The thing is
homeboy, homeboy showed up with all the bloody clothes in the
trash bag, right? And he was like, hey man, we got
to go, right? But mention she's already going
to leave on feet. She said, *** I don't got my van

(56:13):
and you not using my van when I get it.
So he leaves on feet, bloody clothes in bag on feet.
Your wife murder my. You're walking around with DID.
My murder get away by foot before, never behind.
The scenario never look not carrying the clothes with you
you got. To walk to get rid of the murder

(56:37):
evident. You all this *** had on he had
changed into all he took off allthe black clothes and had on a
fucking raincoat mentioned it wasn't raining a.
What now? A raincoat.
A yellow raincoat. OK.
So he, he, he's in the wind at this point and Edna's gone.

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But around early that morning, Jimmy, the landlord, who's
apparently is good friends with Anthony, he's been calling them
all fucking day. And now he's concerned.
And when he shows up, he see blood on the carport, blood on

(57:20):
the porch. And when he enters, he can tell
that Anthony's door has been kicked in.
There's blood on the rug, there's blood on the wall,
there's brain matter on the wall.
And there's also blood on Timothy's room.
And what he's realized these Timothy's room has been cleaned
the fuck out. Jimmy calls the police.

(57:42):
Police show up. They're like, hey man, who the
fuck lives here and here? He tells them who they are and
they are on have a all points bulletin looking for Timothy
Jones. OK I'm sorry to interrupt but I
thought Edna was supposed to be cleaning.
Why is there so much blood evidence if Edna's ass was

(58:04):
supposed to be in the house cleaning like the fuck she was
told to do? Hey.
Man, bitches don't listen, man. What the fuck was that in the
doing? She was on the phone calling
everybody telling everybody about the crime but she never
pick up. No broom, no mop, no bleach, no

(58:26):
nothing. They smell, no no nothing.
Just what the fuck was that in the doing?
Look that that that gas they used to light all the other shit
on fire. They should let the house on
fire. You know, I mean, I know it's
not Edna's fault, you know what I'm saying?
She didn't commit the murder andstuff like that.
That's my man. Thank you for my man.

(58:48):
But I mean, maybe it was revengefor, you know, the Beats by Dre.
She was like, I'm not going to finish it.
I'm gonna just call everybody and let him know what had
happened. And I'm not clean this stuff.
I'm gonna leave all the evidenceand fuck you.
Maybe. Maybe.
Go. Power.
I don't. I don't.
Maybe OK, so police get there they get the names of the people

(59:19):
that stay there and you know thethe landlord is pissed because
he don't know where this guy that who's been living for
years. You know where this guy that
he's been living for months and his blood in both his apartment.
So he don't know what the fuck is going on.
So now they got all points bulletin out for both of them,
right? And about 11:00 AM they a body

(59:39):
is found in the woods and it is Anthony Wilson and they send it
out for autopsy, right? And it's in a heavily wooded
area. This look down there in that
area, Tyler, Palestine. And they also is heavily wooded.
So you got to really be knowing what you're looking for.
But the fact that they found that body where they found it
is, is easily a common place where people go.

(01:00:02):
Because if he drove his truck down there and was able to pull
it out, that mean he's not the only one doing that shit, right?
And then it's like it's accessible and stuff like.
That exactly so they. Definitely didn't pick a.
Good spot. OK at at all.
So at this point they are looking for they are writing up
arrest warrants for a God damn Edna Jones.

(01:00:23):
Timothy Jones, Could he define? All the Joneses.
All the Joneses, Ollie Jones's. Yeah, and it never said it was
married. I always said baby Mama.
So maybe they got a courthouse wedding or whatever, but it
never said it was married. But they do have the same last
name, right? So eventually the next day,
because it's been all point bulletin looking for these two

(01:00:43):
fools. Not to mention, and they ain't
got no really rap sheet, but Timpsey definitely has one.
You know, when he sees his name on there, of course he's already
scared shitless because people already want his top.
You know, he goes down and turn himself in.
He like, hey man, I don't know what the fuck going on, right?
Whatever, whatever. But the US Marshals go and kick
Aetna's door in and go snatch her ass up from where she was
at. Now, before the police had
snatched up Timothy, they had already went to his mother's

(01:01:05):
house and asked him, hey, whose car is in the back?
She said, hey, look, I don't know who the fuck car is.
My son dropped that car off. And then I saw him earlier this
morning, but I ain't seen him since.
Stories I needed enough stories to know.
When their mothers are fed up bro.
They tell on your ass bro. Man I did so many stories bro.

(01:01:31):
When them when their mothers arefed up they tell on you bro.
I mean I'm telling too. Shit, fuck that, you *** even.
I mean, I feel like I'm telling.Too, Because why the hell are
you chill today I talk you. Better why you bring this
bullshit to my house. You like?
Come on, the mail. In the car, it was blood on the
outside, the car, the inside of the car.
And it was they could tell that it was multiple people in the

(01:01:52):
car because one of the bodies dead weight and they knew it was
going to be too heavy to carry, right.
So anyway, Timothy has turned himself in, right?
And they interrogate him. But the US Marshals, they go
pick up Edna right the very nextday.
So now both of these people are on interrogations now Timothy,
he's interrogation, he's telling.
Hey man, I don't know what the fuck y'all talking about me and
motherfucking answer. Who's just roommates?

(01:02:13):
I last time I saw him was Fridayand in my head I'm like, yeah,
last time you saw him alive was Friday.
You killed him Saturday, right? He's like, Nah man, I don't know
what was about homeboy. Homeboy.
I mean like, I mean he was always like walking around the
house. I never really fuck him like
that. We had a little drinking here
and there, but he told me he wasRoboCop.
I don't know what the fuck he meant by that.
I know what he meant by that. So I just, I just kept my

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distance. I mean how you keep yourself
distance, y'all in a 2000 squarefeet house.
He got that much distance? Like what?
There is no distance. There ain't no distance, no.
You heard him. You heard him listening to you
in the closet like you really, there really is no privacy.
Like you heard the cops scrapingon the wall.
That's. Not at all.
No privacy at all. That's a mess.

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Oh yeah, so interrogation he tell a man look, I don't know
what the fuck y'all talking about.
I ain't do shit. I saw him earlier that morning.
I haven't seen him, he said. So what did you do Saturday?
Is that when I'm going to? I went to the Barber, I got my
haircut. He said what's the name of the
Barber shop? He's like why I'm lying y'all my
homework cut at his house like how you got there?

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Yeah man. What's up with all the questions
man? The detective said.
Bro, you're sitting in homicide.I mean, I mean, what the fuck
that mean? I, he said.
He said this. Ain't parking enforcement.
We ain't over at the parking enforcement. *** this is
homicide this is this is homicide game.
Look man, look I don't know whatthe fuck y'all talking about

(01:03:38):
whatever the pussy ass *** and told y'all but I ain't did shit
I said so at an apartment we gotthere.
There's blood on your apartment and his apartment and he's
missing and you're missing. Matter of fact, your whole
family is missing. And before you get to telling us
this, that and the other, we've talked to a lot of people.

(01:03:58):
I mean, what the fuck that mean?You trying to scare me or some
shit? And they like, uh, we're not
trying to scare you. We just want to know how your
day went. Hey, look, man, I don't know
where that motherfucker at. I ain't seen him and say, well,
look, I'm gonna tell you like this.
You being charged with murder And at this point Timothy starts
crying like a bitch. Me.

(01:04:20):
No, we did cry. No.
We did cry, crying. He pushed the wall.
He said why me Buddha? Why me Lord?
Why me a lie? Whoever he prayed to.
But he was asking, did he? Cry down the wall like AR and B
video. Did he slide down the wall?
Dude started doing push ups. He started doing everything.

(01:04:44):
So he said OK, fuck it, I'm gonna tell you what happened,
man. I thought some people was
following me, man. I mean paranoid, man.
These people got money on my head, bro.
It's like the *** got their hands on my head.
They keep on saying I'm the cops, man.
So I'm. I'm just real worried about
what's going on, man. I don't know.
I didn't do shit, man, They saidso how did this man get shot?
OK, I'm gonna tell you what happened.

(01:05:06):
I was outside. No, I was inside.
I heard something outside. I look outside, it's a car out
there and I see somebody creeping by the cars.
He says he starts shooting, right?
Says at this point, Anthony, theone who got killed, ran into his

(01:05:28):
room. He says he thinks that Anthony
is setting him up to be killed, right?
So after he shoot at these imaginary people, he runs into
the room like man, what the fuckis up?
You trying to set me up? Shoots him in the head.
He said after he's in the head, he called his homeboy, Christian

(01:05:50):
Polk to help him move the body. That's how they got the body to
the the little wooded area. And he said, but hey man, it was
all accident. I thought this man was trying to
kill me, man, that's self-defense, right?
Said hell no, that's not self-defense.
That's fucking. Murder.
Wait a minute. Oh, geez.
OK, OK. I have some questions.

(01:06:16):
Go and ask away. OK, did we ever find out who
these said people are? Who are these people that are
quote UN quote on his top? Because what does he do?
I thought he was just a rapper like so.
Bro, that's the whole thing. He never.
Said he never said who was on his ass or why they wanted his
ass, but he was adamant people want his fucking head.

(01:06:41):
He apparently did something. I'm just going to say he ratted
on somebody. He either ratted on somebody or
ran off on the plug. But it sound like he just be in
the house in the closet smoking and listening to music and
moving in. If you want to call Mamie Kathy,
I mean, that's on you. He's our #1 fan.

(01:07:04):
Oh yeah. Listen, so we don't OK, alright,
I'm just stuck on who's the people like what is he doing?
Is he besides rap 'cause he's unemployed, he don't have a car,
he doesn't have this, he doesn'thave that.
So he's not working. He got get.
Dick done. He can't be moving that weight
because he has no money, so it'snot like drug people or like

(01:07:26):
looking after. When all this fail, you don't
work that big man. With all else fail.
You don't work that big Wait so.You think he'd be out here?
Oh, he'd be doing that. Naughty 40 and you?
You can remember baby mom moved.Out here selling Dick.
You got to remember baby Mama moved out, new chick moved right
in, and I don't know what selling point was, I guess he

(01:07:48):
said, hey, I got a room right here, a bed you can bring, yo-yo
2 and my little shoulder that's in your gut.
I'm just. Is that a selling?
Point for you, I'm listening Forme, No, I'm OK.
I'm OK with that. I'll.

(01:08:15):
Pass on that one. I'm OK.
You know, they there's a what isit a pot for every lid?
That's not my lid. I'm OK.
I don't do that, don't do that. But I'm just so confused.
OK, so maybe something else. OK, if you finish, maybe

(01:08:37):
something else will come out that I'll explain his craziness.
They have snatched both of them up right now.
After he finally confessed on what happened, they asked him,
well who helped to move the body'cause they said hey, we know
the body was heavy. And he went ahead and said he
said who's going to know? I told you this.
They said no one's going to knowbut us in the DA and then they
gave me. And us more documents.

(01:09:05):
The mother fucker said who's going to know?
They told him nobody but us in the DA, the court.
OK, dumbass, this is all public record once it's sealed,
Playboy. I mean once it's once it's like
done, it's court documents and it's all public gang.
I pay my taxes. They bet not holding for So
anyway, they come in, they fingerprint him, and they haul

(01:09:26):
them off right next they bring in Edna.
Come on, Edna. Edna.
No. Edna's going to come through in
this story. Edna's going to stand strong.
OK? Come on, Edna.
Edna gets in there, They said, how you been?
She said, I'm all right. I really want to know what I'm
down here for. And I'm like this.

(01:09:48):
Can you please take that bonnet off your head?
But whatever they say, what do you know?
A guy named Tim, he said, yeah, that's my man.
Thank you for my man. My man, my man.
They said, what do you know about Anthony Wilson, his
roommate? He said, I don't know.

(01:10:09):
I mean, I woke up at 3:00 in themorning and I look out my door
and I see Timothy in Christian Polk carrying a body outside the
door. God damn it and the folded.
I mean, it didn't last long at all.

(01:10:30):
They said. The lady detective got heated.
She said, So when you split, whydidn't you call the police to
tell us what the fuck was going on?
She said, I mean, I didn't know what was going on.
I just whether they said, did you think the man was dead?
I mean, you saw him carry a bodyout And she said, I mean, I

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figured he was dead. The motherfucker wasn't moving
and she said they said you couldhave stopped it, you could have
called once. They walked their ass out the
door. And she said well I was scared
to move because he already had agun on him and he had called me
a bitch and told me I need to clean this house before.

(01:11:13):
He get. What no *** say you better clean
had his motherfucker house cleanBefore I get back mention not
only clean my house, clean his house.
He did none of that. Look, I'm going to assume.

(01:11:35):
How much bleach do you really need to clean up brain matter on
one wall? A bloody ass mattress, a bloody
ass rug, blood on the door, in the living room, in the kitchen,
on the carport, and then back toyour house or space or whatever
you want to call. I'm going to call the storage at
this point, But I'm like, how much?

(01:11:55):
You need a lot of bleach. You need a man.
You need a cleaning crew. It would choose A1 man at this
point. I don't want them.
Damn kids. And I got to help mommy with
something. Kids got to help.
Me and then was on the phone. She was just on the phone.
She probably lit a cigarette. I just started calling telling
me child, you never guess what happened to me today.

(01:12:17):
I woke up at 3:00 in the morningto go to the bathroom and this
*** up here arriving have a goddamn body.
If I was Aetna, I would have played sleep till the next
morning when the lady turned. Around and went right back to
bed. What's going?

(01:12:39):
On hell you telling me some shit?
I don't know what the fuck is going on.
Like listen, she already slept through the goddamn gunshots, so
at this point might as well justturn around and be like I was
sleeping. She told I saw them they had
trash bags on her hand. Like at this point she didn't
know they had socks too. Of course, Timothy told they had
socks. So they had trash.

(01:13:01):
Bags on their hands now me, I'm like damn man, look, let me do
them bro. If you think you'll commit a
crime, just keep gloves on you. You even never know when
opportunity comes. You know a lot of these
robberies and shit, it's opportunity that's I mean keep
your gloves on you now I ain't telling you go rob nobody but
keep your gloves gang. Anyway, yeah, she said.
I'm conflicted on Edna. I'm conflicted on Edna.

(01:13:23):
It's. Like Edna said she saw wrap him,
wrap him in a blanket. A blanket and she said it was a
grocery bag around his head and they had grocery bags running
hand. These got to be the dumbest
people I ever met in my fucking life right now.
At this point they have arrestedher with for accessory tampering
with a witness and fail and failure to failure to report in

(01:13:49):
a crime. Some shit like that.
OK, but they but he, they got toremove one of those 'cause she
didn't tamper with something, 'cause she didn't clean the
goddamn thing. She cleaned something.
She, I think she ran out of bleach.
All right. I'm going to say she did clean
because she would have know whathappened if she didn't.

(01:14:09):
That pimping would have been strong.
I don't know because they sound.Strong over here.
OK. All right, poor Edna.
She didn't even do nothing. All she did was wake up to go to
the bathroom at 3:00 in the morning.
And now look. She woke up to go to the
bathroom, got called a bitch andwas told to clean.
Damn and. Now you arrested, getting

(01:14:34):
charged. Yeah, anyway, they arrest her
ass is eventually now she has a her case is actually still
pending, right? Currently.
Currently 2025 today her her case is still pending.

(01:14:58):
Crazy crazy work. Oh wow Christian Pokey might
ask. Well she got well not Christian
but her case is still pending and she still has a 250 a
$275,000 bond. Y'all go bond out here.
So how much she needs to get out, How much she need to get
out? She had a good math on that she.
Had a good 20K good, 20K good. 20 Oh, I don't got that yeah, I

(01:15:21):
don't right and. The reason was that I keep Bond
out stupid. I mean this is just.
Well, why was just Edna Peace beunto you and all those things.
Hope will you get time served atleast.
She's serving it. Oh yeah, so Timothy and Edna are
both in jail. Timothy got hit with a $275,000
bond too, right? But Christian Polk is in the

(01:15:45):
wind and they didn't catch his ass for a whole fucking year.
OK. Christian, they caught Christian
they caught Christian. Christian was out of there.
Christian was in Dallas, D town,Boogie.
Christian was in Dallas. Man, my last two stories have
been in Dallas. I'm pretty sure he agreed with
Shag. Well, how far away was that?
He didn't go far. Atlas is not that far from from,

(01:16:08):
from, from Tyler. But yeah, they called him a
year, a year later. And of course he didn't admit to
shit. He just went in there and pled
guilty and he was sentenced to 11 years.
And he all he was hit with was tampering with the with
evidence. 11 years, you're tampering.

(01:16:29):
Yup. Now your boy Timothy who was hit
with murder, he saw all the evidence against him, all the
people that was talking about what Aetna told him because it
was plenty. Not to mention his mother told

(01:16:50):
the police on his ass too. He said what fuck technician to
trial. I plead guilty your honor and he
was sentenced to 40 years in prison.
Now, Aetna has not been sentenced.
It is 25 now. This has.
Been going on for three years now.
Aetna, I would say she's going to get 11 years like she got to.

(01:17:11):
Get less than old boy because she ain't really do too much at
night. Really do too much.
Yeah, she already been in jail three years.
I think they still give it a 10 ball.
Like yeah, we got you less than him and she already did 3.
She get time, Sir, So that's. Like she'll get time served,
she'll get time service, but so.What's that like 7?

(01:17:32):
Well she already did 3 so yeah she might get 7 because she
didn't touch the body. All she did was clean up the
blood. Not to report, but she told
every fucking body else. She literally told everybody.
So if she had just made that oneextra call, like, OK, I'm gonna
call my mom and tell what happened.
I'm gonna call my home girl, my friends, And then like,
somewhere down the line, just make a little dime to the
police. Like, yo.

(01:17:52):
So let me tell you what happened.
I would have called the police once I see that and told that
*** drive off. Well, you know, she's like
traumatized and stuff like that.So she wasn't thinking like
that, but the people were telling her to call the police.
So like she should have just listened and maybe she just
doesn't 3 and gone or something like that, I don't know.

(01:18:13):
She didn't really do anything but be stupid.
I'm put like this. She been in a three.
She. Been there 3.
She been there 3. She might get 5 but but she's
going to get less than 10. She might get 7 or something.
She already been there three years.
This happened in March 29th of 2022 and it's almost that it was
already past that. So she's been there about 3

(01:18:33):
years. They got caught in 2 days.
Crazy. They really did.
It was not. It was quick.
None of this, none of this was thought out at all.
No spur the moment. Yeah.
Look man, you can't make life decisions off Tipperary
feelings, man. Or have a you.
Definitely can't make life decisions off shit.

(01:18:54):
You tweaking out of being high in the closet?
Like what did you do, Dollars? $40. 40 dollars make y'all up.
That's what people say. I didn't say that.
People say, oh man, So what, what, what that is.

(01:19:16):
So what do you think about what,what, what do you think about
this? What is your whole?
What do you think about this now?
What do you think what? What could have been done
differently? I so many things where do you
like where do you like where do you even start Like we glad the

(01:19:42):
1st baby Mama got. Some sense, right?
Like, OK, she finally left, right?
So it's like there was like a little bright spot in the story
and like, OK, bam, somebody got some sense.
And then like Edna comes along and like how do you move into
that situation with two plus bringing another one?

(01:20:05):
And where the fuck is the van? I could never like I watched
interrogation video. I still don't know where the
fuck the van is at. Yeah.
Like it's just everything's wrong, so I don't even know
where to start to go from the correction.
I think the first red flag was her moving into that dorm room

(01:20:29):
did that I. Mean there's that, but then can
we even before we go in and and get to the dorm room, you got
pregnant by somebody who has no car, no job.
He got a dorm room. Was that like she I like to
highlight like she had a job. So it was like, so maybe that

(01:20:52):
was a power couple. Maybe that was how they were a
power couple. She got the job and he got the
dorm. Room.
That's why I think he was selling drugs if he showed the
cat. Nope Nope.
But remember he always kept weedand why else they let you stay
there because you have to have some cash and he stayed there
for months. And we're talking about 2022.

(01:21:16):
Is weed legal in Texas? Hell no, ain't shit legal in
Texas, but carrying guns? Oh OK OK that would make sense.
What kind of weed was he smoking?
Indica sativa hybrid. Like what the fuck make you
tweak out in the closet like that?
Probably Reggie. I don't know.
No get you? Like the good get you tweaking?

(01:21:40):
Is Reggie still around? Is that still a thing?
It's always going to be a *** smoking bad weed.
I don't know, I'm up in the Northeast.
We got all types of shit. It it it it was you tell
everybody where exactly yet, butwhat state you in?

(01:22:02):
I'm in Connecticut. I'm Connecticut.
Hey y'all, no cap, this is like every listener that I have
spoken with from like the Northeast.
They've had, they got bread. Every single one have.
Told me. They've told me all kind of
stuff. I'm like, man, my, my list is
up, up north, no. No, it's not that we got bread,

(01:22:26):
it's how expensive to live up here.
Like you better get to the. Expensive.
Live out there, it's hell. Expensive but y'all get to
telling me different some like anyone's got some fucking money.
Because I don't know, See, I I'mmoney adjacent, money adjacent.
I haven't really got into the bag, but I sit next to the

(01:22:50):
people who have the bag and we love a generous fun.
We love a generous giver. We.
Love a generous giver bro. You know, I mean, I've achieved
moderate success and I just hangaround people that are a little
more, you know. She has success y'all don't
listen to that. OK, so I'm a bitch.

(01:23:15):
I'm. Broke yeah, yeah, that's the
best thing you can tell me. Broke So the next thing I want
to do is see where you stay and you know they love the movie in
and get green cards, you know. See why?
Why? You know what I thought that was
like? That was a me.
And you know. Why?

(01:23:36):
Why are you locating telling my business shop?
Bro, I'm gonna definitely have to bring her back so she can
give you all this story. That was crazy as shit, bro, It
was crazy. I was.
I was dying. We'll have to see if they want
me back. Like if they want me back, I'll
come back, OK? The show is over.

(01:23:58):
I'm just gonna ask you some morestuff that I've been like
reading. Sure.
Let's. Go Damn.
Marvin Sapp never would have made it.
I'm going to tell you Marvin Sack would have never made it
because in Texas these *** carryguns in churches, bro.

(01:24:19):
I'm going to send all kinds of shit to that *** You going like
who and what you want? 20, huh, *** Ain't you the rich
*** in here? What do you think about?
That I feel so conflicted because like during my times
never would have made it has taught me through like,
sometimes you know what I'm saying?
I'm like, yeah, Marvin. At church, I'm I.

(01:24:41):
Mean the music is. Good, I mean.
We forgave our Kelly. We still step in the name of
love. I mean, we just like his music.
Are we just disappointed? Are we like done with him or are
we just like a little disappointed?
I mean, I, I, I don't know othersongs, but never would have made
it. I mean, I don't listen to it.

(01:25:02):
I mean it's. Really the only one I know and I
never would have made a remix. OK, so I guess I don't have a
valid point. Look man, do y'all know how
y'all want to get back at that church?
Stop paying ties for a month. I bet you right now they'll
never invite that *** to nothingagain because he lost us all
kind of money 5O3C did. He get the Did he get the 40 Ki?

(01:25:25):
Don't know if he got the 40K butI know he left that bitch with a
check. That's a fact.
It's showing up for free. Just like when I said when Tyler
Perry showed up to that gay dude.
What's that dude in Dallas? Damn.
What's that fat ass oppressor that just had a heart attack
with the he got a gay son. He got a molested, molesting

(01:25:45):
son-in-law daughter and an illusional wife.
What's his name? The he got a big church in
Dallas. Yeah, yeah.
TD Jakes. You know, he had Tyler Perry
come to his church and Tyler Perry, they donated $1,000,000.
And I'm like Tyler Perry, you stupid motherfucker.
You could have donated, you could have busted that down OK

(01:26:08):
100K100K that's 10 churches. You could have busted down 50K
to 20 small churches and help them like people like in my moms
church who need like paved parking lots and ramps for for
the elderly. But no you give it to a that
makes millions like that's why I'm saying that's all the
bullshit. Not to mention he sleeps with P
Diddy. Not to mention that his

(01:26:29):
son-in-law and his and his daughter was over the youth
ministry and his daughter fucking the son-in-law was a a
registered fucking pedophile. But that's near the there are
over 3000 kids in the children'sministry.
Man get the fuck out of here. Fuck them churches.
I always tell people don't get them *** shit if I give you
money that means we get a one-on-one right here you going?

(01:26:51):
When I pay my money, *** you we talk one-on-one and how we
going. To do that, nobody told me
nothing. If you listen to any of my
episodes, I don't play the pastors I do not play.
The pastors, OK, I never play with passes, but I told you the
one that has pastors Tracy is the one that has sent.

(01:27:15):
Me. Oh man.
Tracy Burlington. Like that is like that, I don't
care. In pure Dick.
What podcast? Who tells that story?
Like everybody finds something even more disgusting about him.
Like, when you think you've heard it and he's gross, Like
you can listen to somebody else and then found something even

(01:27:37):
more disgusting about like, thatis like, he's like next level.
Yeah, one of my listeners. That one is crazy.
One of my listeners, when I was doing that story, she sent me a
lot of, well, I'm going to say it was Gordon.
You hear me mentioning Gordon all the time.
Gordon. She yells at me, cousin at me
with all this stuff. But yeah, she's one of the,
she's the 1st in their First off.
But her mother went to school with that guy.

(01:27:58):
So she sent me all kind of pictures of them in high school
and everything. And yeah, he was, he was fucking
a whole congregation. And like, why are you mentoring,
mentoring women? Like you cannot mentor women and
by yourself, it has to be another lady in there.
You can't just be coming on the bitches in church.
But apparently that's what it is.
So fucking Deacon. They number hype man.

(01:28:20):
Hell if you don't. Fucking Deacon.
In I don't even even get that. I don't mean.
That, that's a whole listen. You'd have to do a whole nother
episode about that because that shit, shit, that's a whole
nother world. Once the pastor kicks them
that's the only pastor I got right now but once the past
another pastor kills a man I won't be on their ass.
But look I'm a most definitely be on that church's ass because
God damn y'all got to hold these*** accountable.

(01:28:41):
Bro stop giving these motherfucking churches money
now. Why is it that this *** he
rolling up with whatever kind ofcar he got all his bills paid
this that and the other churchespill.
The church is getting bigger, yet I'm telling you, my life go
off. Everybody knew, but that's the
thing too. Everybody knew.
It wasn't like like hearing the stories and stuff like that.
Everybody knew and like a goat and he set the church on fire.

(01:29:04):
That's next level die about likewho?
I don't even know how that even comes across like did we know
what he did before he became a pastor?
He. Was swinging what?
Did he like now he was a cock Slinger?
When all those failed, you slingDick.
Alright, well, you know. OK, what about oh man, oh man,

(01:29:31):
raw rolled out because, you know, he owed us and get him a
little extends to keep him goinga little longer, but whatever a.
Mess. You can't be looking man, you
can't be taking Viagra and high blood pressure pills bro.
You are definitely going to killyourself.

(01:29:52):
You definitely going to stroke out.
You come to it, come to the point where you taking Viagra
and high blood press pill you like which one I'm going to take
because I'm trying to fuck this bitch for sure.
But fuck it, I take the Viagra. If I die, I die.
I think I always go with the Viagra, but we'll come back with
another story about, oh man, that I found out about a
grandparent that one should never find out about their
grandparent. Oh my God, I got to make sure

(01:30:14):
none of my family is both. Keep listening to me.
One thing a *** is going to do is save his Dick.
Like really cancer. Cancer.
I need my Dick to work. OK, So what about Pastor Ricky

(01:30:39):
Floyd in Memphis? That was at that at that club
when he got shot at 1:30 in the morning after he slapped that
woman. And they say the disagreement
was about something in the Bible, which is hard to believe
because at 1:30 in the morning at a club, I ain't talking about
no Bible. I mean, you want to pray?
What kind of prayer we talking about doing come and we
definitely do some neat things. I'm like really trying to think

(01:30:59):
about the last time I was at a club.
OK, so where I'm at, club left out at 2:00, right?
You know, the lights come on. You're not shocked.
He still looks good. You know what I'm?
Saying you're like, I still wantto take him home.
That way you make it to the parking lot, right?
Right. I mean, at no time does it come

(01:31:23):
up unless he's like one of thoseweirdos like, so you're going to
go to church in the morning and I'm like, why are you bringing
that up right now? He just really just dried
everything all up. I'm.
Here, man, I'm here for a fun time, not a long time.
You know damn well I ain't goingto church in the morning if we
do what we do. So the most conversation I

(01:31:45):
remember having at 1:30 as a former big back is like yo
where's the fucking waffles? We're giving a.
Powerful house up here. We used to go up here.
We go to like diners. You go to diners and they that's
the name of. It yeah, like.
Yeah, it's just the different diners, like different towns

(01:32:07):
have different diners. Yeah.
And you know, you could get, youknow, the diner, they got like
5000 things on the fucking menu.So you.
Yeah, you really? Something like a pancake or
something? Look up.
Yeah, so, but yeah, pancakes, I don't think like.
What they was talking about was getting angry like that, 'cause
he slapped and she lived there on fire.

(01:32:28):
Yeah, like you were slapping herin the name of Jesus.
Like what? Hey, like what was the like?
Was there a chopping little listen?
No. Tell us all about Christians.
I'm definitely not going to be at church tomorrow.
All praises Allah wait. Wait, like, but we have to delve

(01:32:49):
into that because if that's the story, is that is that her
defense? So like, who's gonna go on trial
for this? Is she on trial?
Is she? Already bonded out.
She already bonded out and they show video of him slapping her
and she popping his ass. So to me, it's clear, clear cut
of some defense. So the slap go the slap and then
the spot like so it doesn't. Matter in the video he was

(01:33:12):
driving off she was videotaping his license plate basically
telling telling people like thisy'all pastor this the *** y'all
got in the pulpit this who y'allpraising this who y'all saying
is the man of God this and the other.
He hops out the car. He walks up on her tomorrow
she's tomorrow. You better back up.
You better back up man. You better back the fuck up.
Hey man, you better not touch me.

(01:33:33):
You better not touch me. Slap lit his ass on fire.
Good riddance. Fuck that *** It's so.
Can he help yourself bro? But obviously he felt
comfortable slapping women. Oh, he's probably.
Beaten or is that? Man look, look man if it.
Because why do you feel even that comfortable?
And wait, what's there? Are we in again?
That was the the theater we in. That was Tennessee.

(01:33:55):
Tennessee. What's their gun laws?
I don't know what their gun lawsis, but it's definitely
dangerous out there. It's definitely dangerous out
there. What do you say?
It definitely gets a little squeaky, OK.
Like, say I listen, I was like, everything I learned about
Memphis, I learned on the first 48.
I do want to go out there. I do go out.

(01:34:17):
There, eat like some barbecue and shit man, but it ain't worth
it. Shit it.
Ain't worth it. Everything I learned about
Memphis and what is that Tulsa, OK I learned from the first 48,
I was like, OK, I'm good on that.
I'm good on that. So I, I, I mean, I don't know, I
guess wait for more of the storyto come out, unless that's just
it, that's just the story. I think to me, I think she

(01:34:39):
already beat it, 'cause I'm like, he slaps her, then he gets
shot. I mean like.
I mean, they gave her said don't.
Walk up on me, Yeah. Then he slapped the shit on her.
It wasn't no crazy, it wasn't nocrazy bond and stuff.
But you gotta. That's why I don't really be out
here messing with people. I don't really be out here
arguing with people like you just.

(01:35:00):
You can't argue with stupid. It's not worth it.
It's just not like he's dead andshe's, you know, facing charges
or whatever for quote UN quote argument over a Bible verse.
If that's the quote UN quote real story like that doesn't
even. Jezebel.
Everybody's life has messed up. Jezebel's were healers.

(01:35:24):
I mean. Who don't need a healer?
They, I mean, I don't know who doesn't need some healing.
I mean, I'm not known as I'm nota connoisseur of Coochie.
I don't know about the healing powers of Coochie.

(01:35:45):
Like, I don't be out here, you know, I mean, I hear the stories
and stuff, but. But why is the pastor out that
late on a Saturday night? Don't you got church in the
morning? Yeah.
But that's like 1:30. I've never had a 1:30 AM Bible
study. And why is he so angry?
Why is he the angry past? Like wouldn't isn't he supposed
to be trying to like, I don't know what is that like bring her

(01:36:06):
to God or whatever the case may be.
Like that's definitely not the way.
So maybe there's some God. Well, the only way we're going
to get more of the story is fromher.
And I don't know, I haven't heard a.
Lot. I was hurt.
I wouldn't say she didn't let the video do the talking.
The video was cutting. I guess at that point he just

(01:36:28):
let it and let people make assumptions and keep rolling.
Oh yeah, One more question before we go.
What do you think about them? Three teens that tried to kill
their mother because she turned off the Wi-Fi.
OK, yeah, I don't know. I think my mom was crazy.
OK, I'm my mom's only child, so I don't know.

(01:36:52):
She had me at 21. So now looking back, I think
maybe she was a slightly, you know, off.
I was scared of her. So I don't know, I, I loved her,
you know what I'm saying? But I felt like she always let
me know at any point in time shewould take my life.
Hey, look, man, that's a good mother, man.

(01:37:13):
They got to let you know I. Don't know how to.
I don't, I don't know if that's like a good thing or a bad
thing. Like I know in like today's
society that might not be it. But I knew she loved me, but I
also knew there was a limit to which she would Take Me Out this
bitch. So like I never really tested
her on those matters. So I don't really understand,

(01:37:35):
you know, thing over Wi-Fi like especially like fuck it, if you
that mad go to fucking walk downthe street and go to McDonald's.
Everybody got free Wi-Fi. Sit out somebody.
You can get free Wi-Fi anywhere.But also it's that young
thinking. OK, so you kill your mom, you
get Wi-Fi for like, what day of the month did this happen?

(01:37:56):
Like who's going to pay the Wi-Fi next month?
What if she don't have it on autopay?
Like how long they go to jail and.
So now you go, you go to prison and now you got to smuggle a
phone in and then you got to figure out, then you got to
smuggle in the Wi-Fi and then you also got to smuggle in
somebody to pay for the Wi-Fi. Like what?
What is it like? What is the alternate in case
you do killer? Like, I mean, what's up?

(01:38:16):
You get your phone for another day or two until you get jammed
up. So This is why I don't know,
maybe I'm wrong, but maybe you should like it gets a certain
age and you should like raise your kids and have them start
watching true crime because I feel like they should be able to
watch all the shit that like where you go wrong and why
you're stupid. I.
Always say that before you commit a crime, you should know

(01:38:38):
how much it's going to cost to beat it.
Like, because how are you? Like what was the logic behind
killing your mom behind Wi-Fi? Well that didn't kill it, but
they definitely whooped her ass.And see, and there's nothing you
like. You can't come back to my house
like I don't even like, you can't come back to my house.

(01:38:59):
How can I go sleep? Like, how can I?
How can I sleep? How can I best like how like,
like where's that that where is that line?
Because like, what do we just see?
That boy that came home from jail and his mom, my son, my
son, my son, and now. I don't know what they did to
him. And the other son is dead.

(01:39:21):
But I think I think he had an issue with the other son with
his younger brother cause younger brother was clear as
clear as they gay. I saw the pictures.
Homo was gay. OK.
I mean, you got that and then like ain't no telling what was
going on beforehand. These dudes, look, these dudes
go to jail like hey man, don't nobody love me.
My family just cut me off to just said no *** they cut you

(01:39:42):
off. They tired of you going in and
out of jail. How much money do you need me to
send? Stay out of fucking jail, bro.
Jail is not the place to be bro.So I can't say like these new
age kids is crazy because like kids been killing their parents
since forever. Like if you watch fruits, your
crime, you've seen all the stories of all colors, races,

(01:40:03):
nationality, like they use like,but it makes you think like
you've really got to be watchingout for these kids like they're
you can't really be taking the threats lightly and all that
kind of stuff like that. But at this point there's no way
they can come back in my house. Like there's just no.
No way. I don't know what the laws or
who I got to pay or if I got to pay child support to the state

(01:40:25):
or what. I don't know.
But them motherfuckers can't come back.
They got to go over Wi-Fi over aWi-Fi.
Imagine if I tell him know aboutsome other shit.
I'm about it here. Don't gonna kill.
Me did you hear that story I told about I can't remember his
name, but his dad told him that no, you can't spend at your
girlfriend house. He go get the Draco, he get the
9 he shoot his mother. I mean shoot his dad in the head

(01:40:47):
and his dad said I love you son.Wow, shot him anyway.
Went there, shot his stepmom Bowwhen they shot his brother, Bow
when shot the pregnant girlfriend, foul, foul.
His other little brother said here man, I give you all my
money he gave. He said I got $40.
He snatched the $40 out his hand.
Bow shot him too and kept going.It is what it is, man.

(01:41:08):
It is what is it and I can't even say it's a sign of the
times because shit people was doing that shit when it was just
a shotgun and you had to reload and shit like that, like that
family domestic violence, that whole I don't thank God.
It's just never been in me. Like I never snap.
I have never crashed out like that.

(01:41:29):
Also, I just never, you know, I don't like my toilet, you know,
next to my like bed. You know, I'm saying like that
whole idea just kind of like skis me out.
I have like. Exactly.
The idea of like prison and germs.
You laying laying down to sleep and he's taking a shit.
Can you imagine? And then the particles when he

(01:41:50):
like flushes or whatever, or she, she, 'cause you're a woman,
you're in jail. And then the periods in the
past. Oh my God.
Like, so these are the things that keep me from cash crashing
out. Like my OCD and germaphobia is
what really keeps me from crashing out because I just
can't. Like you're not going to trick
me out of my hot water and my shower and myself because you're

(01:42:15):
fucking my man. Like you can have him.
Like I'm not going to crash out behind no man and lose my hot
water and my soap and my dog andmy what's that?
That ASOS cashmere vanilla freaking lotion.
I'm not going to lose these things.
Nope. You'll get whatever they get
your ass up in there. But the people say that the jail

(01:42:36):
soap is like good for you happy or something.
Or is that a lie? I don't know, the people say.
Why should they worry about acnewhen you got to worry about a
dude on your ass? Well, I mean, I guess as long as
you ain't got no pimples on yourass, it might make it more
appealing, you know what I'm saying?
You got to get how you live. I couldn't be in jail, bro.

(01:42:59):
This I mean I man, ain't no way.I don't know, I can't crash out.
I know like crash out culture and being toxic and all that
stuff. It's like the wave, but I just,
I can't. I mean, I like you smell that.
Like I like that that, that smells like freedom.
Like, I love that I can. Go outside and see the sun like.

(01:43:21):
You know what I was like, like I've been looking at all the
like Tik Toks and all the apps and everybody being, you know,
and I'm like, I love you. Not going to like, you're not
going to make me think fucking hibachi on the bottom step of
the prison. Fucking well, it's fucking
better than going to Benihana. You're really not going to make
me think that's better. I.
Was watching on TikTok. This dude said this dude was

(01:43:43):
like let's make a prison gumbo. He had put like rice in a bowl.
Some sardines. Rice.
Sardines. Going gumbo.
I'm from the northeast and I know that.
I'm like. Bro.
I'm like, *** you wouldn't live with that gumbo when you added
that sardine. That that it.
Yeah, No, no. So I mean crazy I for him.

(01:44:08):
Well, alright, Peter, I. Enjoyed you coming into the
show, is there anything? Else you want to say I'm not I'm
not giving out my social media because I don't I'm.
Just. A regular person say, look, I'm
just a regular person. I don't do nothing, but I'm glad
I found you. I'm glad I have this community

(01:44:30):
of true crime. You definitely get me through my
day. I'm still not even done with all
your catalog, so it's even funnythat I'm here.
So I had a blast. I drank entirely too much.
Tell all your tell all your friends that you was on the
episode and TuneIn I will drop this at midnight I.
Will alright, I'll sit back and probably fringe listening to

(01:44:54):
myself, but I had a blast OK andalways gang gang like.
Gang, gang. And this is the end now.
My brother's keeper. Hey, I see y'all next time.
Peace.
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