Mr. Robot: A Neurodivergent Info Dump

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Well, hi there Ender. We, we have returned.
We have returned. Much to the detriment of others
I guess. Yeah, but we returned under new
management I. Was gonna say under duress.
We've returned under duress. No, not duress.

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We've we've come back with a rebrand, folks.
I think, I think this is long overdue.
We've been him on on this fucking name of this show.
I don't think either of us has technically loved it for quite
some time. I don't know if y'all remember

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what this was and how this started.
We will get into it afterwards. But allow me to introduce the
new name of the pod not neurotypical girls.
And this is going to make a lot more sense when I when we say
our tagline, Hi, my name is Nikki and that's Amanda.
Say hi Amanda. Hi Amanda, And we are just two

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neurodivergent best friends traveling the Neuroverse
together because we are living in a neurotypical world and we
are what? Not neurotypical girls.
See. See how it works now?
All flows, you know it all flows.
It's great, it's great, it's fucking wonderful.
This is a yippity yap sesh. So before we get into Amanda's
info dump, let's just like briefly remind the people how we

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got here, what this name was andthen why we changed it like 13,
why we've changed so much shit 13,000 times I.
Mean, what else can you expect from people who, you know, can't
make decision to save their life?
Yeah. It's not recommended, right?
Like the shit we do is just not recommended, duh.

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Because it creates no real brandrecognition when you continue to
change things. However, we are, we have always
said like, this is the messy beginnings of things, right?
Like we are nowhere even near the messy middle at this point
two years in. So like we're still, I consider
like us, the messy beginning, like figuring shit out.

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So this whole show started as ansegment on my personal podcast
that I had for two years. I found out that I had a DHDI
wanted to start incorporating that content into my show.
And I asked Amanda to jump in with me and do a few episodes.
And we ended up calling it the neurodivergent convergence as a

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segment in my show. And so when we started the solo
show and I felt like it was timeto let my original show go and
just completely switch to this, we just rolled with that name.
So we're like, well, that's whatwe called it before.
We're just going to keep it withthat, you know, and and then it
just sort of started to fall off.
We started calling it the NDC podcast because it's a fucking

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mouthful to say the neurodivergent convergence.
So it turned into the NDC podcast and then it was just
high wear podcast. So I feel like this was much
needed. How do you feel about it,
Amanda? Yeah, because we kind of didn't
feel because granted, not not that like not neurotypical girls

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is not as short and sweet sort of title, but neuro divergent
convergence podcast was a mouthful and that's why we
scored it. And then and then we kind of
just joked like, well, you can just you can make whatever you
want up for whatever NDC stands for.
We won't tell you what to do. We're not your mom.
So yeah, so that's a that that'sthat's where we were at.

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We kind of it's kind of like something that we just kind of
made-up. It's, it's kind of like when you
like, it's, it's like, it's almost like, you know, like
when, when movie like a movie companies will ship movies or
make movies under a false name. It just kind of felt like that's
like a want to do like work in progress stuff.
It just kind of felt like that sort of thing.

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Yeah. And I feel like our tagline came
very like, naturally after a while, right?
I don't even know how it, I don't even remember.
I don't either, it just sort of developed.
I think I just said it one day because I had a Madonna.
I had that Madonna song stuck inmy head, Material Girl, and I
just like adopted it to that andit stuck.

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But I feel like like how this actually happened was we had
gotten done recording, I think. And then I went and sat in my
chair and I was like, OK, I knowI'm extremely emotionally
unstable right now and you can tell me to sit down and shut the
fuck up if this is ridiculous and we should not do this.
But I feel like we should changethe name of the pod to Not

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Neurotypical Girls. No, I said, do you feel like we
should keep things as they are or do a rebrand to Not
Neurotypical girls and like lockin and really get serious about
this shit? And she was like, I fucking love
it. Let's go.
So when Amanda is like an immediate, yeah, let's do it,
then we just do it because Amanda is a very calculated in

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the best way, like analytical, like really thinks things
through, like takes time to likeassess the situation kind of
person. She's not a last minute, fly by
the seat of your pants gal like me.
So when she's down from jump, I'm like, cool, we're in, we're
locking in, we're doing this. So that's what happened.
And then we got to work on a logo and that was the whole

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thing. But we actually ended up coming
for a full circle on the logo idea because years ago, before
we launched this, Amanda had created this really fucking cool
space brain. And I don't know, I guess I was
just a dumb idiot and decide we weren't eating.

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It I think we just, I think thatwas the time we decided to go
with the Jeremy thing instead ofthe the space thing.
So I think we just went with theJeremy, which I like the Jeremy
thing too. I like the the Jeremy, I like
the fantasy. So we kind of just want more
fantasy than space, so. Yeah, yeah.
So we rolled with the whole Jeremy experience during like

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most of Season 2 I would say, and like mid season 1 into
season 2. And then we came up whatever,
for whatever stupid ass reason, again with the Dunkin' Donuts
style shit, 'cause we were really obsessed with Dunkin for
a while, Skeletons and the Dunkin' Donuts.
And like all of that, 'cause we were really feeling like shells

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of people. I was deep into working, you
were deep into working. Work was stressful, shit was
happening and we just sort of let it take its own turn, which
shouldn't have happened, but whatever.
And then just the longer shit went on with that theme.
I'm like, what does this even have to do with anything we do?
Like what does this even have todo with anything?

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So I think we both decided we'redone.
This is. This is not changing.
At least for a while. You know you always change our
mind. Yeah, we can make no changes.
We can make no changes. We can make no promises because
the second we say we're not going to do something is the
time we do it. But I'm incredibly happy with

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how everything came out in the wash.
I feel like it's a very full circle moment.
I feel like not neurotypical girls is like a way easier,
flowy thing to say. It makes sense with our tagline,
It makes sense with our content.The graphics are going to make
sense with our content. And our theme, the troll
traveling, the neuroverse thing,Spacey brain where our brains

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are Spacey, you know, so we wentwith a space theme and like, you
know, we had the whole May 4th launch, so Star Wars and like,
it's, it's kind of a thing, right?
It's kind of a thing. And I feel like it all makes a
little bit more fucking sense now.
So we are officially changing our name.
We are now the artist formerly known as the NDC Podcast.

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We're doing a rebrand. So hi, we are now not
neurotypical girls. And it works and I love it and
we're happy about it. So peep the cool ass graphic
that Amanda designed like 2 years ago or a year and a half
ago or whatever the fuck, however long it was.
And we just sort of played off that.

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So you can keep that. It should be up.
We already changed our Instagram.
I have not yet changed our Facebook.
I'll probably do that today, though by the time you're
hearing this it'll probably already be changed.
And weirdly enough, our Reddit handle, like our U slash our
username on Reddit was always not neurotypical girls.
I don't know why I ended up going with that.

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I think because I didn't want itto be like a like a dedicated
podcast page or whatever, just kind of wanted it to be.
Because we were like basically we joined Reddit because we
wanted to look at like the Reddit stories for yeah in like
the like our slash autism and orADHD or whatever and your
neurodivergency stuff. And so we didn't want it to.
We just basically didn't want toget the obvious that we were a

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podcast type of thing. Yeah, yeah.
Because a lot of times when you show up in those spaces and
you're, you have a podcast account or whatever, like
you're, you're a podcast, they will not interact with you with
and it won't let you in because they think kind of self promote,
right? So it wasn't like we weren't
trying to be sneaky about it, but we just didn't want to
overtly be a podcast page. And plus we don't really post
anything to that. It's just there for research.

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Purposes we don't have. We don't have a thread, we just
created an account. Right, so now all of our handles
are going to be changed to something along the lines of not
neurotypical girls. Our Instagram handle is at not
Neurotypical Girls, so I'm goingto try to make all of them the
same. And if I can't, you'll know next

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week and it'll be in the show notes anyway.
So that's the thing. That's what we're doing.
That's the catch up. That's the TLDR.
Except if it was long anyway because we're 2 minutes in.
So yeah, that's that's what's. We're not.
We're not going to summarize different.
We're not going to. Start No, that's why everything
looks different. That's why our name has changed.
You did not all of a sudden follow the wrong podcast or some

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shit. It's still us.
We're still here. We're just free branded.
So anyway, we've got a lot of yapping to do today.
So Amanda, what are you yapping at us about today?
So I told Iggy this yesterday that this is kind of like a last
minute decision of a last minutechange for what my info dump
was. So I was, and I've talked

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multiple times about like how I like Marvel and superheroes and
all that stuff. I like DC too, but more Marvel
stuff. So originally I was going to
talk about Marvel superheroes, like basically how I've loved
that sort of stuff since I was akid, like playing, you know,
like X-Men legends Robo UltimateAlliance or, you know, just, you
know, watching the cartoons and stuff.
But then yesterday I finished Mr. Robot.

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So which so I'm which Nikki has seen one episode of like I just
was when I was at her house. I watched one episode while I
was there and it was like a season 3 episode.
So it's like she and I'd like explain stuff as it was going
on. So Nikki will probably will not
be really contributing to this. So I apologize.
I'm gonna be talking at you. Well.
That's the point of the info. Yeah, it's your.

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Turn I know, but so this is likea very like niche things like
this is just something this is like my current like I wouldn't
say hyper fixation because like the show's over.
And so it's like the only thing I've been doing since I've
stopped watching it. It was like, I just read like
trivia, like the behind the scenes stuff of the show, like
how he filmed it or, you know, just like writing or that sort

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of stuff. And but I finished it yesterday.
So I mean it, the show's like 10years old at this point.
But if you ever want to watch the show or in the middle of
watching the show, there is going to be spoilers.
It's also because based on the show's topic, like themes, there
is going to be like heavy, heavysubject matter.

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I won't try to get too much intoit, but I will have to like talk
about sort of stuff when talkingabout the show in general.
But so this is like your last warning.
There will be spoilers. But like I said, it's not really
my fault because the show is 10 years old, so I don't want to
tell you. So basically the premise of the

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show starts out where this hacker named Elliot, who's
played by Rami Malek. And I'm sorry if I mispronounced
the name. If you ever, you know, if you
ever listen to this Rami Malek, I'm sorry, but he he's the same
guy that played Freddie Mercury in Bohemian Rhapsody.
If you don't know, yeah, if you don't know who that is by name

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and he's you know, been Night, night Museum, Twilight,
Oppenheimer, a lot of stuff. I also learned that he was in
Legend of Korra. Do you remember the which I was
looking up like his other roles and he remember the asshole
water Bender of like the opposite pro bending team.
He was like really high into himself.

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They were like, I think they're called the wolf bats.
If you don't remember. He he had his water.
He was a water Bender, but he had his water Bender taking away
by Amin or Amin for at the end of the season.
And then he's like, he's like, I'm nothing.
But then Cora was able to give him his water bending back and
he was like, really that was him.
That that was Rami Malek. Yeah, he was like that.

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He was like the guy that had like the groupies.
He was like the best pro Bender and he but he was I think it was
also a water Bender. Anyway, so the show starts like
he is a hacker who works at thiscompany called Allsafe, which is
like a cybersecurity firm. And they, their biggest client

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is this is this company called ECorp, which is basically like
how I explained to Nikki is likethey're kind of like Bank of
America meets Amazon and Google.Like they're all rolled into
one. They're like the biggest
conglomerate. Like in the show, they're the
biggest conglomerate. They own like 70% of like, I
don't know, it's the world or just the US.

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I'm going to say US just to be safe, like the US debt, like the
US loans basically. So if you, if you had a mortgage
or car loan or credit card, you most likely had it through E
Corp like in this world. That's why I like kind of like
added like they're kind of like Bank of America as well, like
U.S. bank, whatever, because they also sell stuff.

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They also have like energy initiatives.
They just basically have their their hands and and their
fingers and vending mini pies. So at the beginning, Elliott
finds himself seeing that these people are like this group
called F Society is wanting to hack E Corp and they tag him to

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come help him. And so he helps them, but then
also is like reluctant at some point and like, and so it
actually doesn't want to help them until they treat his best
friend Angela, until like the CTO, the chief technology
officer, treats his best friend like shit during a meeting.
And so like she tries to like basically they had this hat,

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they had this hack go through and Elliot has no idea he helped
stop the hack, but doesn't stop it completely.
Like he like there's this file like this kind of this piece of
malware and it has this note saying leave me here, like do
not delete me. And so he leaves it there and he
but then does stop the hack for like helps the server and gets E

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Corp back. And like, like I said, this is
like such a big company. They earn like $13 million an
hour type of thing. Like that's how big, Like that's
how they calculated it. I think it was 13 million.
It's either a minute or an hour.I'm going to say an hour.
I'm going to say $30 million an hour is how how much they make.
And so they basically just to like not beat around the Bush.

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It turns out that Elliott was the one that helped them with
the hack. He just did not remember because
he has dissociative identity disorder.
He has basically what used to becalled multiple personality
disorder. So in like the first episode, he
sees this guy on the subway and is not, does not know who it is.

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This guy's like, hey, you shouldcome help us, you know, with our
little group, we're gonna hack ECorp, we're gonna basically
erase everyone's debt. And so that's, that was another
thing he wanted because his friend Angela has been playing
or paying on her student loans for years, but still owed like
$200,000 on them. So once he was a, he also like

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hacks everyone in his life, likehe, he hacked his therapist, he
hacked his like his best friend,he hacked his best friend's
boyfriend. And so he just knows everyone,
everything about everybody and like, but he's also like, kind
of like a vigilante because likein the very first episode, he
hacked this guy who owned like abunch of coffee shops around New
York City, but turns out this guy was a pedophile.

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And so and helped run a site forChild P Word, you know?
And so, yeah. And so he was able to take him
down and call the police. And the guy was like, I'll pay
you money. He goes, he's like, that's the
problem. I don't give a shit about money.
And so he, he doesn't do this for money basically.
So anyway, so he in the first episode, he sees this guy on the

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subway and like, like on the subway who talks to him and he
kind of ignores him and doesn't,you know, he's just messing with
him. And then sees him across the
street when he's following his like, therapists and stuff,
'cause his therapist is also being cheated on, that sort of
thing. But then it turns out his this
guy that he's been seeing looks like his dad who died when he

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was 8. But then he also this is his
other personality called Mr. Robot, which is where the title
of the show comes from. So, and if you kind of like
rewatch it, like rewatch those scenes.
Like it just seems. Like everyone's ignoring this
guy. Like, obviously, like it's New
York City. If a guy's being acting weird on

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the subway, New York, New Yorkers are going to ignore them
anyway. So it's like, it's not unusual
to like see people ignore someone who looks like a
homeless guy, like bothering somebody.
But then there's other scenes where they're in the scene
together and it seems like people are talking to both of
them. And so, but it's, it's really
because like, like it seems likepeople are talking to Mr. Robot,

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who, like I said, looks like hisdad, his dead dad.
So it looks like he's talk, they're look talking on this
robot. But really what's happening is
that Mr. Robot took over the body.
Cause like, you know, and I willsay first and foremost, I don't
know that much about DID. Like I've been, you know, I like
reading about and stuff, but I and obviously the show is not

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going to be a perfect representation of Didi don't
think there's really anything that's perfect representation
DID. So just take it with a grain of
salt. This is just a very like
Hollywood version of DID so I'm just going based on they they
even like mentioned that this was DID they even like mentioned
that this is what he had until the very last episode episode of
the show that this is what he has so.

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But like, there's scenes. Where they're both in the scene
and Mr. they're talking to Mr. Robot.
But what it is, is like UC Elliot, Rami Maleek's character,
like in the background, like watching everything going on.
And so that's because Mr. Robot is the personality that took
over. And so Elliot is the one that is

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like watching everything as it'shappening.
Basically Mr. Robot is fronting.I think it's what they call it.
Like he's the altar that's fronting or take.
Like he's he's take he take over, took over the host body.
So. Long, convoluted like storyline,
but basically they get it to work.
They are able to hack E Corp andbasically shut them down to the

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point where because E Corp owns a lot of banks they like, it's
called the E Bank or something like that and.
No one can. Pay it's it's like a double
edged sword because while no oneis obligated to pay on their
loans because all their records were wiped like that also means

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if you paid off your loan like this one.
There's one scene where this lady's at the bank showing that
she had the teacher house, showing every statement she's
ever had, like every payment she's ever made to her mortgage,
saying that she paid this off, but they won't release like not
the deed, but they they were released.
Whatever you get, like the finalthing you need to like to prove

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that the house that you own is now officially completely 100%
yours. Like you no longer have a
mortgage on it because their records were wiped.
And so they have no way of verifying it like on their end,
even though she had obviously all, all her documentation.
So like, here's every single payment I've made on my fucking
house for, you know, 20 years and you you can't release like

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basically the deed back to me. And they're like, no, because we
have no proof on our end, Like, because obviously, like, that
Lady could have forged all that paperwork for all they know.
And so it is like a double edgedsword because like now this
lady's like official house documents are held hostage by
the bank because they can't makefor sure that she should own

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this house. I mean, they can't really take
the house away either 'cause it's like they have no way of
knowing. So but so like, but people's
like student loan debts are paid, like are wiped out, their
credit card bills are wiped out,everything, like everything's
wiped out, but the dollar is completely depleted.
Like the US dollar is completelyworthless.
So what does E Corp do? They make their own

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cryptocurrency called E Coin. And so, yeah.
And this show is obviously very like anarchist, very, I wouldn't
say far left, like politically, but it's very obvious that the
writer, the creator and writer who also directed all the

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episodes, he does not like Donald Trump at all.
Now, mind you, this show startedin 2015, so basically two years
before Trump became president in, you know, January of 2017.
So he would have been. Campaigning at the time, yeah.
So he wasn't even campaigning because obviously when they were

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filming this probably started filming this in 2014.
So Trump didn't start campaigning until 2015, I think.
I don't remember when he took that miraculous, you know,
descent down the escalator type of thing.
But I think that was 2015. But I don't remember what, what,
what day that was. And so when he announces his
candidacy, so he but even at thebeginning, like even in like in

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the first two seasons, it's justfunny because.
Basically. It's this group like E Corp,
like think of like the Elon Muskand the Jeff Bezos of the world.
And they're portrayed as the badguys, which is kind of funny
because like, you know, obviously.
And people are like, well, it's so funny that they like these
people write this sort of this sort of stuff, this sort of

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plots. But then they have like,
obviously they're owned by like Hollywood, who is also a bunch
of rich people that control everything.
It's like, yeah, but you can't really Like it's, it's, it's
like, I don't really want to getinto that.
It's kind of like, well, yeah, but it's kind of like it's kind
of like an Andor when he goes, Ihave to use the tool of my enemy
to, to make the rebellion succeed type of thing.

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But like even in like the show, the CTO of E Corp, the one that
treated like Elliott's friend like shit in that meeting, he.
He when they were like. Talking about Trump at one
point, like, and I think it was like right when like Trump
announced his candidacy like in the show and he goes, see, if I

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were ever to run for politics, I'd have him on my ticket.
And so like, like this maniacal,like evil corporate corporate
overlord saying like, yeah, I'd have him.
And then the other guy goes, well, he's a idiot.
Like he's he's, so they actuallytalk.
About Donald Trump in the show, Yeah, And they.
Like the bad guys meet at Mar a Lago.

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Like for their evil meetings, Yeah, in the show they eat at
they they meet at Mar a Lago in the show.
Wow. So, and the reason why I think
like I, I didn't, I wanted people to avoid spoilers is
like, 'cause you don't know thatElliott has like DID and
multiple personalities until like the 8th episode.
Cause like for an episode, you think, 'cause like, like I said,

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it builds up. His dad died because, and this
is also right, why you want to go against E Corp?
E Corp owned the plant that gavelike the nuclear power plant
that his dad was got cancer from.
They had a like they had a leak.Like I think he.
Worked at the power plant. He was an engineer.
Yeah, he was an engineer. And so he worked at the like,

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the plant that he like, had a leak and like 26 people died
from like, they got cancer, likeleukemia, like, and, and died
like really quickly, including Angela Elliott's best friend.
Her mom died as well. So that's why she also wants to
go against E Corp. And so so basically E Corp and
basically they covered it up. They covered up this leak.

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They shut down any lawsuit against them.
So at first when you, you find out like, 'cause Elliot, like,
remembers, like he has memory issues.
And so he remembers like he finds all these pictures of him
and his dad, who looks like Mr. Robot, and then finds out his
dad owned a shop, like a computer repair shop right

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before he died called Mr. Robot.And so, so and so he wears a
jacket with Mr. Robot on it and everything.
So he owned a repair truck with Mr. Robot.
So for like an episode, you think, did his dad not actually
die? And so like, and he's been kind
of like hiding out or something?Like, did he fake his cancer
diagnosis or something or get better and they just left?

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But then, no, you find out he did die 'cause he finds and he
finds out like he's like talkingto him at his dad's grave.
And he goes, I don't understand.Like, I thought you like,
aren't, aren't you dead? And then, like, Angela and his
sister Darlene come up and say, who are you talking to?
And so that's when he felt like,you find out, oh, this is his

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other personality. He's not.
He hasn't been there this whole time.
And so. He and so he found out his dad
did die. He before like before his dad
died, he created this like personality cause DID typically
comes from intense trauma and abuse to a child.

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Like you don't develop DID as anadult like you had.
I think it has to happen betweenlike before the age of 10 or 12
or something like that. Before your, yeah.
Before your your, before your personality completely forms.
Like. You can create another
personality as an adult, but youwouldn't have developed DID like

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you would have the onset of it as an adult like it has to.
You have to have developed. They had to have happened when
you were child. And so from my understanding of
it, like I said, my very. Blanket understanding.
Of it and you can I know like I've read that like the goal of
DID is the integration of the personalities.

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Like obviously that's that's notsomething you have to do, but it
just, you know, helps and like that's like the point like a lot
of them go through to therapy totry to integrate their
personalities. Is that what?
You found. I think I.
Have something here? This is from Cleveland Clinic.
Let me just move my microphone here 'cause it's on my other

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screen. It says.
What causes dissociative identity disorder?
DID causes may include stressfulexperiences, trauma, and abuse.
These events typically happen during childhood.
DID is a way for you to distanceor detach yourself from the
trauma. And yeah, and symptoms may

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trigger or happen suddenly afterremoving yourself from a
stressful or traumatic environment like moving homes,
close relatives or your children, reaching the age at
which you experience trauma, a recent traumatic or stressful
experience like a vehicle accident, an abuser passing
away, or experiencing life threatening illness.
So like his dad dying could haveno.

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Then we find out what, why, how we developed.
Oh, OK. Yeah, OK.
And basically risk factors for it would be physical or sexual
abuse, neglect, multiple medicalprocedures during childhood, war
or terrorism. So yeah, it's it's really.
From an. Extreme.
Seems like an extreme level of trauma as a child, yeah.

(29:36):
Like it's before basically your your personality forms develops.
So it yeah, before it come basically before you become like
a full concrete person, like personality wise, because
obviously our brains stop developing like this are
basically fully formed at like 25.
So it's not like it's before theage of 25.
It's usually before the age of 10 or 12 is.

(29:56):
Yeah, it says between. Ages of five and 10, yeah.
Yeah, so see, I'm not, I'm not too dumb.
I I did some I did some research.
I just. I just wanted to make.
Sure. So that like I didn't want to
like. Yeah, I wanted to be concrete.
It is more common than people. Think yeah, before because it is
more common than people think because like I think, I think I
read like like 2 to 3% of the population may have it.

(30:18):
And obviously a lot of people that have it don't realize they
have it like, because I think I saw that.
Actually, and like I said, I'm putting.
This all from memory because there was like a time like
there's like a month or two where that was like my
hyperfixation was like reading about DID and oh it isn't isn't.
Common, it's found in an estimated of one small US study

(30:39):
found that it affects an estimated 1.5% of people.
So 2%, yeah, yeah. And then hold on, It's there was
a question. Can someone have DID without
knowing? Yes, it's possible that someone
can have DID without knowing. While some people are aware of
their identities, many people don't know when a new identity
takes over. When a new identity steps in,

(30:59):
you may not remember some events.
Yeah, yeah, 'cause it causes. Gaps or amnesia, Yeah, because I
know that like some people will just attribute to it like, oh,
I'm just forgetful. Oh, I have amnesia or something
or like, but basically the pointis.
The brain. Like from my understanding is
that the person's brain wants tobe able to basically mask and

(31:24):
doesn't want people to know thatlike another person like took
over. So like if a new person like
takes over, they might act like the person and then everything.
And then they might write down like, I know a lot, a lot of
people that I've like looked at that like allegedly have, DID
cause some people do fake it, you know, for like some people
fake having Tourette's and stuffor whatever.

(31:46):
It's terrible. People suck.
But like what they'll do is thatthey'll a lot of them keep
journals and so they'll like write down like, OK, I talked to
so and so today. This is what happened.
This is what we talked about andstuff like that.
So that now the other person andthe other like other
personality, you know, that takes over.
They know that there's not like gaps.

(32:07):
Like then they basically they don't really found out type of
thing. It's kind of like a like a COVID
mechanism. It's also like a defense
mechanism, like a way to hide almost like that sounds like a
bad thing. I'm not saying it is.
It's like, it's almost like a way to make sure people don't
realize that. Something's not.
Right, in a sense anyway. So throughout like probably the

(32:32):
first 3 1/2 seasons, you think like his dad was abusive like in
a way like his dad wanted him tokeep he, he found out his dad
had cancer and he did not want Elliot to tell his mom, like
tell his mom or her sister so. According to.

(32:53):
Elliot's memory, he told his momhis dad got mad and pushed him
out his bedroom window which is on the 2nd floor which ended up
breaking his eyes. But.
You find out like from his sister Darlene, she goes, that's
not what happened. And he goes, what do you mean?

(33:13):
He goes, you try. You.
He she's like, you put me at, you shoved me in the closet like
she's like, we went, we were building a snowman who we called
Kevin McAllister after Home Alone.
They're building a snowman. And we went up to, we went up to
your room to get a camcorder or,or your camera to take a picture

(33:33):
to film it or whatever. And when we went up, dad was
coming up the stairs. You shoved me into the closet
and then you grabbed the bat andstarted like swinging and acting
weird and outburst and then you jumped out the window.
And so. But then you learn in like the

(33:56):
last like 3 episodes or like last like at least the last half
of the fourth season, which there's Four Seasons, so last
half of the fourth season which.Like.
Through like a very intense basically it's like I said, it's
very it's a very convoluted show.
Like you can already papers about it.
So basically this guy the Elliott had like, quote UN quote

(34:20):
helped in the first season. He's like a drug dealer.
His name's Fernando, Fernando Vera.
I'm just gonna call him Vera. And so Vera like kidnaps his
therapist because he, he wants, he finds out that this lady is
Elliott's therapist and kidnaps her because he wants to figure

(34:42):
out like how Elliott is the way he is, like why he does the way
like stuff he does cause Elliottbasically helped him break out
of prison. Because Elliott.
'S like it's, it's very hard to,I'm sorry.
I'm, I'm, I know I'm like going all over the place basically.
In season 1, Elliott had this neighbor named Shayla.
Shayla was Elliott's dealer. Elliott was taking morphine, but

(35:03):
he also took Supoxone or something like that, something
that like helped withdrawals. So he would, he would take a
very controlled amount of morphine, you know, to basically
help himself. He's very he's very depressed,
very lonely. So he would take exactly like 30
milligrams of morphine, but thenhe would also take the Supoxone
or whatever it's called to curb the withdrawal symptoms.

(35:25):
Well, Shayla's like quote UN quote boyfriends like slash
supplier. Was Vera?
And. He did not like that Elliott was
into Shayla and and they basically ended up killing
Shayla. And and like.
He went he went to jail and everything.
Like Elliott was able to hack him and like do the not for

(35:47):
killing Shayla but basically Vera got Shayla kidnapped.
And told. Elliott, I will let her go if
you break me out of prison. But then it turns out Shayla was
dead in the trunk the entire time, like with Elliot in the
car like, And then he found he didn't find out until after he
broke Vera out of prison. So Vera returns in Season 4

(36:11):
after being on the Dominican Republic this whole time.
Wants like. Knows Elliot has these skills,
like these hacker skills. And so.
Finds this lady that Elliot's talking to which is his
therapist. Kidnaps her, gets Elliott to
come to her house and basically has him do like a therapy

(36:32):
session. In what's called like a.
Bottle episode where the whole episode takes place in this like
room in her house 'cause her office is in her house, her
therapy office and. Basically.
Forces the therapist to figure out like the root of every like
why Elliott is the way he is. So basically in this very like

(36:54):
intense, like it's even, it's even presented as five acts.
And it, I looked it up and apparently like each act is like
a stage of grief, like like act 1, like, you know, acceptance,
like, so each act is a stage of grief, anger, you know,
bargaining, stuff like that. So we find out that like it like
in season 3, when he, like, whenhe learned that he jumped, he,

(37:16):
we learned that he jumped. And like I said, this is going
to be heavy subject matter. He we learned that he jumped
because his dad was sexually molesting him and he suppressed
it so much. And like, even like Mr. Robot
came out like in the in the episode, the two like Mr. Robot
kept popping out because Mr. Robot is actually what's called

(37:39):
a protector altar. He was trying to protect Elliot
from this truth. He was like, I, I, I, he's and
he was telling Krista and telling like him, like, you
can't do this. I've been trying, you know, I'm,
you can't let him know this information.
You can't do this. And so, but then they found out
that his, his dad had come up tobasically molest him and he

(38:03):
like, you know, he was with his sister.
I don't think he did the sister like did Darlene as well, 'cause
she makes no mention of it. She doesn't have the trauma.
He doesn't she, she, they had like a shitty childhood.
Like their mom was abusive too, like her mom put her cigarettes
out on Elliot and stuff like that.
And so yeah. And so the you find out like in

(38:23):
the last few episodes that when he was a kid, he stole his dad's
key to his bedroom. And like his dad had a key to
Elliot's bedroom. And so he's able to get the key
and he hid it like in like some City Museum, like where him and
Angela would, I think, I don't know if her mom worked there.
Like I don't know how they were breaking into the City Museum

(38:46):
and running around and everything.
But anyway, he hit the key to his bedroom.
And so that was him 'cause he was basically, he was mad at
himself. He goes, why didn't I do
anything? Like did I?
He's like, you didn't jump out the window.
That wasn't you fighting back. He's like you fought your your
younger self, your 8 year old self fought back by basically

(39:07):
taking away your dad's power andaccess to your room.
And so he basically he jumped out the window to get away from
his dad. And so that's why he jumped out
the window and his dad died likea few months later or a month
later or something like that from the cancer.
So he. And so it's just kind.
Of like basically Elliott has 4 personalities and we find out in

(39:33):
like the last two episodes of the series that the entire time
of the show we've been actually watching Elliot's, one of
Elliot's personalities which which they called the
mastermind. So Elliot has actually been
inside like, you know, inside the body, like basically trapped
in like this really happy loop that this personality like put

(39:56):
him in. He got like, and so like I said,
it's kind of hard to explain, but basically Mr. Robot being
the protector altar. So that's one he had that's one
personality. He had another personality of
his mother that took the the form of his mother, which was a
persecutor altar. So she was the one that like, in

(40:17):
his mind, like abused him, you know, like, and you can see it
like throughout the series. What looks like.
Her. Like.
Her talking to his younger self was actually his two
personalities communicating because his his other
personality was him as a child, and so his his child was
represented all his trauma. It's what he created to

(40:40):
basically miss like Mr. Robot was created first.
He was he's the protector alter.He basically he looks like his
dad because that's he made his dad what he wanted like a father
to be. So he formed the altar as like
this is what a father should be.He should protect me.
He should take the hits for me. He should that's what he did.
That's like if Elliot was in like a needed to be in a fight,

(41:03):
Mr. Robot took over and took thehits for him and you know, was
more aggressive. I would say more violent like he
was, but he was just more protective.
And so then after Miss robot created, then the persecutor
altar was created, which like I said, looked like his mom and
then right after that his child.So the child like basically took
all the abuse that Elliot himself could not handle.

(41:26):
And so basically right before the show started.
And so altars like from my understand, don't have to be
created just when the when the person's a child, like if they
have DID, they can create altarsand integrate altars and altars
can go away and what's called fragments or something
throughout their like whole lifebasically.
And so he like right before the show started, he created this

(41:48):
altar. Called the.
Mastermind. And so the mastermind is
basically at like a heightened version of Elliot himself.
He's like a super vigilante hacker, like is doesn't really
care that much that sort of stuff.
Basically he's just like almost like a superhero version of
himself. And that's like who we've been
watching this whole time becausewhat happened was the altar.

(42:13):
And we see the loop that he puts.
Like what's in Elliot's mind is that he put him like Elliot in a
loop of where he's happy. He's going to, he's going to
marry Angela because Angela unfortunately dies the very
beginning of Season 1 or Season 4.
And so Angela gets killed at thebeginning of season 4.
And he loved Angela like he theygrew up together, like since

(42:36):
like, you know, both their parents worked at the same place
or both their parents developed cancer.
Like her mom died of the same cancer his dad died of.
And so they grew up together since they were children.
And so he loved Angela, but Angela always was in terrible
relationships. And so he wanted to marry
Angela. So basically the mastermind put
Elliot, like the real Elliot in this happy loop, like this loop

(43:00):
of happiness where it's the day before his wedding, he is
packing up to move his, his, both his parents are alive.
Her parents are alive. Cause like in the show, his, his
mom was still alive. Like she was just in like a
home. Like I don't know what happened
to her like if she had a stroke or something, but she was like
in a home and but she died like at the towards the beginning of

(43:20):
season 4. And so but both his parents were
alive. They were not abusive.
He was an only child. Like which the only reason why
the mastermind did that, the mastermind did not give Darlene
his sister in like this loop of happiness was because Darlene
was the person who grounded him.Darlene was the person that

(43:40):
could basically make the really real Elliott come out type of
thing. So which cool, it makes sense
because like in the show, because you're like, why is like
Elliot always trying to avoid his sister?
Why is Elliot like always try being an ass to a sister?
It's because it's the mastermindpushing his sister away, like
because his sister is the one that like brings out the real

(44:03):
Elliot and basically it's her, his grounding force.
And so like his light basically.So in this loop, there's no
Darlene. He has a happy family.
His dad is still owns the Mr. Robot business.
His mom looks like a homemaker. They, his Angela and her parents
are alive and they're happy and they're about to get married.

(44:27):
But then like the loof restart always restarts like because
they were saying like, well, younever like the wedding never
happens. Like you just restart.
And so basically like reading the clues throughout the series
because even like one of the first episodes in season 1, like
when he's talking to like Angelain his mind, like he's going

(44:48):
through withdrawal from morphinecause Shayla couldn't get him
more or couldn't get the withdrawal like the supoxone and
preventing his withdrawal symptoms.
He was going through like real heavy withdrawal and having like
hallucinations everything. And then he sees Angela and she
goes and at first you think it'slike strange, like that's that's

(45:10):
like a really off handed comment.
She said she basically tells him, well, you're not Elliot.
You were just born a month ago. And so basically saying that the
mastermind personality was created like a month before the
show started. Wow.
So it's and like, so it's just like I said, I watched that like

(45:31):
just blew my mind. And so and there's like, I
didn't even go like this whole other aspect like.
I won't get like too. Much into it, it's basically
like the minister of state security for China, like is
trying to also get to E Corp, E Corp to fail and is also like
they run this hacker group called the Dark Army.

(45:52):
And this this then the the minister of security, he is, is
played by the actor BD Wong. His name, the act the
character's name is Sheng Zheng,but he he he goes by the name
White, like the hacker named White Rose.
And so he's also trying to get ECorp to fail.
He they also like make a dig at Trump where he's watching like

(46:18):
Trump make a speech at one of his rallies and he goes, we
should back that guy. We should get that guy in to the
presidency, you know, be interesting, you know.
And so I think at that point, Trump had won the election.
That's like a just AI don't knowif he won the election while
they were filming it, but at least when the show aired, Trump

(46:39):
had already won the election. So I just, there's just another
dig, like just just shows like how many bad guys wanted Trump
to be president. And like I said, having meetings
like even like they, they discovered like the top 1% of
the 1%, like almost like a deep state type of group, but they
call it the Deus, the Deus group.
Deus, the Deus group, which is like the 100 most powerful

(47:04):
people in the world having a, having a meeting.
And like in that meeting, you see the back of like, what looks
like Trump. Like.
Like. Like grabbing a burger from
someone to like eat a burger andlike, it's just, I was like, oh,
perfect. And this show ended.
When 2019. So OK.

(47:24):
Yeah, 20. It started in 2015, OK.
So, but that's very weird because I feel like it's a very
prophetic of the current situation.
I know, that's why that's. Why I was telling all the
billionaires? Behind him and his inauguration.
You know, like I was. Telling Nikki and Scott, I'm
like, I was like, I'm watching Mr. Robot and it's way more like
I feels like it's more relevant now than when it was created,

(47:47):
like when it was on air. And so, but Minister Shang like
runs this group and basically they control everything.
But Elliott and Darlene figure out a way because they help get
E Corp back online because they realized, hey, we kind of fucked
up. Everything's in shambles now.

(48:09):
We kind of, we kind of did a, a brash thing.
So they got E Corp back up, but they did it with like the
stipulate, like almost like a stipulation of, OK, well, we can
make them better. So like Elliott gets a job at E
Corp, he gets like all these terrible executives, like fired
'cause he hacks them, is able tosend like their information to

(48:29):
like the FBI and like HR or whatever and gets them out.
But basically they are able to hack.
They are able to, like the last season is basically them trying
to get information on the bank that all these people like, all
these 100 people keep their money and it's like a bank in

(48:50):
Cyprus and like an offshore bankaccount.
And they're able to steal all ofthese people's money like all
their, which I'm like, OK, firstof all, these guys are fucking
idiots to put all their money inone bank account, one bank.
Yeah. And so I'm.
Like obviously, so it's probablynot all their money, but like
obviously in the show, it's verysymbolic, ha ha.

(49:12):
And so diversify, bitches. Diversify, right?
Exactly. Diversify that portfolio and
then. And.
So they like, they're able to basically create like a, like a,
a way to steal all their money. They drained their bank accounts
and because E Corp established this E coin which the United
States government like. Like establishes.

(49:36):
Like a legitimate form of currency which made it as like
more like stronger than the dollar.
Oh, you. Mean like they did already this
time. Yeah, right.
And so and so they. Cause like E Corp was trying to
get the the at the time 'cause like the show take entirely

(49:56):
takes place during the year 2015.
Like it starts like like I thinkit wants to say February 2015.
And like the last season mainly takes place around Christmas
time of 2015. So it doesn't like the time does
not really move forward very much in the but so they E Corp

(50:17):
gets the United States government to do that.
But then because of that, that like bit in the ass, 'cause then
when they when Darlene and Elliot's drained their bank
accounts, they're able to. Basically.
Filter their money through many like E coin wallets to basically
make it untraceable DNA. Because.
It's like legitimate because because they legitimized it,

(50:38):
it's non refundable. So they they can't.
Get their money back after like basically pulling it through all
these little like virtual wallets and so at like towards
the end of the season, Darlene then is able to divvy up the

(50:58):
money to everyone with an E coinwallet, which is basically
almost everybody because like the dollar is like, you know
worthless. So everyone uses like E coin and
so is able to. Split the money.
Up evenly among everyone that had an E coin wallet and so like
she does it and she's like sitting in a park and she can
see everyone's like getting notifications on their phone and

(51:21):
they see that they all got a deposit and I looked it up.
I was like how much is the top one?
Obviously like this is our worldversus, you know, fake the you
know the TV world. I was like, how much are the top
100 people worth? And so I found out it's about 7
trillion, $7 trillion, the top 100 people.

(51:41):
And so I'm like, OK, say Darlenejust did it for the for
Americans 'cause like E Corp waslike a global company, but I
think it just mainly operate in America.
Like say they just divvied up toAmericans, say like 200 million
Americans. Like because like you, you
subtract children, you subtract people who don't have E coin
wallets. Say they they do that.

(52:02):
So I did 7 trillion / 200 million people.
So each person, according to my math, would have got $35,000
holy. Shite balls, Yeah, so that's
why. Everyone was like sucks at
first. I'm like, OK, well like how?
How much could it really be? And so that.
Ain't no nothing to sneak at. No, it's not.
'Cause I was like, I was thinking, OK, maybe a couple

(52:23):
thousand, but no, when the fact that like 100 people have enough
money to give 200 million people$35,000, like fucking
ridiculous. And so and I caught they're
like, oh, this is the biggest wealth redistribution in the in
the country. And now we just had that happen,

(52:45):
but in the reverse because now billionaires have another tax
cut and and they're doing it in the form of taking away
healthcare from 17 million people.
But. Thankfully.
The House did vote no on that bill yesterday.
Did they? Because.
Cause the Senate voted yes 'cause like Vance was the was
the tie breaking vote but then House shot it.

(53:07):
Down there was two O 7 to 216, Yeah, 'cause I think.
It like, I think I, I know like this like Tea Party Republicans
were like, no. Yeah 4 like 4 Republicans said
no, every Democrat said no and 9Republicans did a no vote which
I'm like I don't know what exactly constitutes a no vote or

(53:29):
why they are absentee vote. Yeah, that means just.
They just didn't vote. They just weren't there.
Like physically weren't there todo it.
Yeah. OK, so I'm like those nine
people better have had better have had a really fucking good
reason to not be there. Like really fucking good reason
to not be there. I'm sorry.
Like, you don't get to decide. You're just not going to vote on

(53:51):
something like this, right? So they have to vote in person.
They have to vote. In person, 'cause I think like
one of the votes that they did, I'm not sure if it was the
Senate or I well I think it was their house, but basically they
all they won the original vote like before it was put to the
Senate by like 1 vote or something and they almost didn't

(54:12):
get it because one guy oversleptlike one one of the one of the
Republican senator or congressman overslept.
So yeah, so basically instant. Fired.
You're done. Yeah, unfortunately.
They can do absentee voting 'cause they have to vote in
person. They can't just be like, Oh
yeah, this is what I vote. Like I, I'm pretty sure like

(54:34):
they. So if they're like in their
state or something or just didn't feel like showing up to
work. But.
I think it basically or they just didn't like, like I think
if they're there, they have to vote.
I don't know. I don't, I don't know.
Because it's like I feel like ifyou're just sitting there like,
well, I'm not going to vote. That just makes you look like a
coward. Just makes like you don't want
to take sides. That's what I mean.

(54:56):
Like, and then there's some people that can vote present,
yeah. Which is the same I'm here but
I'm not. Participating.
So it's like, no, that's literally.
Your job, that's only what people voted you into your
position for, was to, yeah. Exactly.
That's what I mean, like if Thisis why these people did that,
because they just didn't want totake a fucking side.
It's like that's what you're paid for, unfortunately.

(55:17):
Like you got to make a fucking decision.
We didn't pay you to sit there and go, Oh no, you know, like
you've got to make a fucking decision.
So I don't know bro but. But so basically you find out at
the end, like Ellie is able, like the, the personalities are
able 'cause even like throughoutthe fourth season, like the

(55:37):
mother and child altars are telling the father all 'cause
like, not only is the protector there to protect like the host,
like their like from their trauma and like, you know,
physically and stuff like that emotionally, but they're also
there to protect the other altars, for my understanding.
And so they're like in a boardroom meeting, like they're

(56:01):
always like whenever they're talk, like the three of them are
talking, but Elliot's not in thelike, Elliot is not in the room.
They're talking. They're like, you got to tell
him, you got to tell him about the other one.
And this is like before we find out about the mastermind like
personality, which has been, anda couple like even even like,
and there's been a couple thingswhere like Vera, the drug dealer

(56:22):
guy that kidnapped the therapist, he like, he had come
up and like saw Darlene. Like Darlene was outside
Elliot's apartment and I talked to her and, and Darlene told him
like, oh, this guy was looking for you like 2 months ago and
whatever. And Elliot's like, what?
And she goes, yeah, you know, hewas here, you know, he was

(56:43):
looking for you. I told you this.
And So what happened was, and again, Elliot talks to Mr. Robot
and Mr. Robot's like, I didn't talk to him.
And it's like, I didn't talk to him.
So what happened was the real Elliot came out for like that
brief moment, like broke free oflike the, the loop of happiness
and talked and talked to Darleneabout Vera and neither the

(57:07):
mastermind or Mr. Robot were aware of it.
So that's why like they were like really surprised when he
like showed up. They're like, I haven't seen you
in this long. He goes, what are you talking
about? I like, I came to your apartment
two months ago. And so, so basically like that's
what happened so. He created Mr. Robot like right
before, like during his childhood and to like protect

(57:31):
him, like to basically the father figure he wish he had.
And so basically it ends with like all the altars, all four of
them, including mastermind who looks like Elliot.
He create like he leaves. They all like basically meet up
in like this movie theater and the projector starts going and

(57:52):
it's all of Elliot's life. Basically.
It's kind of like an inside out when all the emotions are
watching Riley. Like you see like all like all
the emotions watching Riley likelive for life.
It's basically that like they finally all take a back seat and
Elliot finally comes out and it ends with Dart.
Like he's in the hospital after.Like I said, I didn't go too far

(58:13):
into like the White Rose and Chinese version, like part of it
like, but basically a nuclear hehelped.
He helped stop a nuclear plant meltdown, the same nuclear plant
that his dad worked at and. He is in the.
Hospital and then he like wakes up and it's Darlene saying hello
Elliot. And so like basically because
she knew that it wasn't Elliot this whole time, but she because

(58:34):
even like he when he, when the mastermind was talking to Elliot
or talking to Darlene, he goes, how did you know?
She's like, well, I mean it kindof at the beginning, cause like
at the beginning Elliot, like, you know, quote UN quote, Elliot
did not realize darling was a sister and he tried like tried
kissing her and she goes, what the fuck, dude?
She goes, I like, I'm your did you forget again?

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And he goes, what are you talking about?
He goes, I'm your sister. And so like, that's obviously
like that was like the mastermind not realizing, Oh
shit, this is my sister. And everything.
And then forgetting that like the protector altar looks like
his dad because forgetting that's his dad.
And so like, it just makes so much sense because I'm like, how
would Elliot forget that was hissister?
So and then like, so when he first wakes in the hospital,

(59:18):
it's still the mastermind. And she talks to him.
She goes, he's like, how? When did you find out?
He goes? Well, you know, during that part
she goes, but at that point I didn't care.
She's like, you were enough likeElliot and I just wanted to
spend time with you because we've grown apart and I just
wanted to be with you. And we were doing stuff
together. And she goes.
So I just kind of she's like, there was a couple times where

(59:40):
you where Elliot woke up and butthen you came back and and like
it showed like flashbacks of him, like being like just being
really mean to Darlene, like yelling at her, like not really
like hitting her, but like kind of like pushing her against like
the wall or something. And like, and at first you're
like, well, Elliot's really likespazzing out on his sister for
no fucking reason. No, it wasn't Elliot.

(01:00:00):
And so she goes, she's like, andso when he when the mastermind
and Mr. Robot and everything andall the other ones, they all
take a back seat and watch Elliot live his life.
Then he wakes up and then that'slike I said when she said like,
hello, Elliot, like you're, you're back.
Basically, it's been like a year.
Since you've really been out. So like that's how long Elliott

(01:00:22):
was like trapped in like his ownmind type of thing, like almost
like a mind palace type of thing.
So amazing show. I mean, I mean, anyone who's
listening to this, you know, sorry I spoiled it if you want
to watch it, but I gave you plenty of warning.
But even if even a knowing like I, I'm glad I didn't know that
this the the deal before watching it.

(01:00:46):
Like, I kind of had suspicion 'cause like I think like now if
I watched it now, like without, even without knowing all the
plot twists, I probably would have guessed that he had like,
you know, multiple personality disorder like at like earlier.
Because like more shows have been doing that or more like
movies have been doing that like, but back then like.

(01:01:06):
'Cause I I actually. Had watched the show a long time
ago, but kind of forgot like thelast couple seasons, I didn't
really remember what happened. And so I watched it.
When I watched it, that wasn't really done as much like Split
wasn't out then, like Moon nightwasn't out then, that sort of
stuff. So I think like I wouldn't have

(01:01:28):
got it. I, I probably would have got it
more now because I would have noticed like, well, that
person's not talking to that other person.
They're not even paying attention to him.
Like they're not even looking athim or acknowledging that he
talked. That's sort of I wouldn't like
noticed it now, but Yep, that was my info dump of of this
time. So I'll probably get into a more

(01:01:50):
lifelong clinical hyperfixation or info dump next time.
But this was my recent like literally just finished this.
I got to because I literally know nobody that has seen this
show and I got to talk about it type of moment.
Yeah, before we completely hop off this train, I did want I
popped over to Reddit. Apparently there is an R slash

(01:02:14):
Mr. Robot. So I popped over there and.
It's. This one.
Is got like 289 up votes so I feel like it's pretty well.
I mean, and there's not a ton ofpeople on this Reddit.
So. I feel like that's a decent one
to share, but and the comments all relatively agree with this.

(01:02:40):
And it says. DID representation in Mr. Robot
and this person says it's a candy coated bean, which I think
is a fucking awesome name. So I have dissociative identity
disorder and this series, especially this final season,
has been amazing representation for me.

(01:03:01):
They really did their research and while a lot of things were
obviously dramatized to make forinteresting, interesting
television, the core of everything they portrayed was
spot on. His DID and the creation of his
altars made sense and worked with his character.
The finale showed fairly realistic interactions between
system mates and Darlene understanding and loving both

(01:03:22):
versions of Elliot was seriouslyso heartwarming.
I was so happy with it. DID is different for everyone
but this was a good representation.
The only thing that stuck out tome was they used all real
archetypes for the other altars and then made-up the mastermind
archetype. But honestly, it's not like it's
that far fetched to imagine sucha type of an altar existing.

(01:03:45):
And then I get it. Says edit thanks for all the
awards. Oh my God.
And then a lot of comments of saying like they're like, they
all pretty well agree with him, like explaining that and his
sentiment or their sentiment. Sorry.
So yeah, I just, I was just curious to see like how many

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people who are in that communitywho do have DID, if they felt
like this was an accurate representation or not or a close
enough representation or not, orif it was like to.
It's. Kind of like we're dealing with
the Maddie Ziegler sing thing orwhatever we call that movie was

(01:04:31):
called Maddie Ziegia issue. Or if this was close enough to
feel like yeah I. 'Cause I 'cause I know like a
lot of times, 'cause like there was a couple Youtubers like back
in the day that I watched that like have DID and like one of
them has fully integrated. Like I don't think, I don't even
know if she makes videos anymore'cause she like was making it as

(01:04:54):
part of like her journey, like through therapy and trying.
I think her name was like multiplicity in me.
I think it was her YouTube name.And unfortunately there are,
like I said, there are bad actors.
People pretend and then obviously like, because some
people don't believe DID exists because I, I'm actually not sure
if it isn't like in the DSM 5, Like it's, it's something that's
very hard to diagnose. Like because it's just something

(01:05:21):
that you have like the person has to recognize.
OK, I don't I have like like arethe voices in my head because I
have schizophrenia or am I just do I do I act like differently
because I am bipolar or borderline personality?
Like how it's kind of hard to pinpoint it.
I think like as a therapist, because obviously I'm not

(01:05:42):
therapist, but like because it'sjust, it's because obviously
like as as bad as this is, say like it's it's it's also like,
is the person lying? Because some people, like I
said, have been outed like on TikTok or whatever for claiming
the FDID like having altars. But then they're like people
find out they don't because they're just acting.
And so just for attention basically.

(01:06:02):
Yeah. And like I've seen.
Videos titled like a chat with this altar, like come talk or
like switching on camera. Like switching on camera or
switching on? Camera and it's like that would
imply and maybe this does happenagain.
I don't understand. I don't understand it enough to
really make this judgement, I guess.
But that would imply that there was a switch that happened in an

(01:06:25):
awareness that happened in such a way that it gave them time to
curate a short form video and get it posted and have the
realization that they switched during a video and then like
integrate that and come to termswith that.
Like, I don't know, it's just not saying that every person who
does it is a bad actor, but it just feels a little, I don't
know, I feel like there's a different way to have this

(01:06:46):
conversation than to. Show.
Like to record yourself all the time and like show mid shifts.
Yeah, I know. I.
Know you're doing it for your own.
Research, right, But like I. Know like some people like at
least the one that I like I believe that has had it or has
or had it she said she like there was 1.

(01:07:09):
I think one of her authors was called Jake and he was more like
an intellectual type person. So what she would do is that if
she basically she just wanted toshow like Jake like her turning
into Jake type of thing. So what she would do is she
would turn on like documentaries, like nature stuff
that he would be interested in watching to like get him to come

(01:07:30):
out or like other times they would like another person I
watch, I can't remember their name, but like.
They like certain. Smells like if they had a
blanket, if they dress a certainway.
And so like, obviously, like I could be completely duped and
these people are just acting. I don't want to say they are.

(01:07:50):
It just it to me, it seems genuine.
But and I I'm also I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I'm a pretty
good judge of character. Like obviously people can act
and put on show and whatever, but it's it's it's just one of
those things that think of like think of like probably the most
well known quote UN quote case, like fictional case is Gollum

(01:08:13):
and Smeagol. Like obviously like obviously
Tolkien did not really under probably understand like it was
even if multiple, even if most personality disorder was even a
well unknown thing when he was writing that book.
Like obviously it's just it's it's obviously like the
dichotomy of good and bad and stuff like that.
But think of that like that's probably like the most.
But then like I know a lot of them that have like a lot of

(01:08:36):
people with the ID they hate movies like split, which always
like they're like all the every time someone with DID or like
personality disorder, like I think of the movie.
Oh, it's a movie Primal fear. I think it's another one.
Sorry, spoiler, but that movie'sfrom the 1990s.
So I don't feel too bad spoilingthat.

(01:08:56):
But like Primal Fear with EdwardNorton, he also plays someone
that has like another personality.
And so it's they like they're tired that like it makes them
look like they're always displayed as a bad guy.
And so like they always have like a.
They're always they. Always.
Have like a quote UN quote beastaltar, like a violent aggressive

(01:09:16):
altar. Whereas like Ellie didn't really
have that like yeah, he had likehe's he got angry sometimes, but
he didn't have like just outright villainous side to him,
like outright just monster. Because even like even when he
and Mr. Robot were like fightinglike he he was trying to like
there was like this one like part of part of taking down E

(01:09:39):
Corp by like the Chinese guy wasthat they blew up 71 buildings
of E Corp and when Elliot thought they were just blowing
up 1 are like trying to take down 1 and so he's trying to
save it. He goes there's people in there
and then the other one's like, yeah, but they it's like who
cares to take in the building? We they make we made sure they
evacuated and Elliot's like thatdoesn't matter.

(01:10:01):
But then it did turned out to benot for no reason because the
the the Chinese they just blew up 71 of the buildings and that
weren't evacuated like 71 like office buildings.
So like thousands of people died.
And so but Elliot like even thenlike like even though at the
time it seemed like Mr. Robot was kind of like the more evil
side of Elliot because he just seemed more direct, more

(01:10:23):
aggressive, more quote UN quote violent, where even he was like,
OK, let them blow up the building we got we got the
people out. Like, who cares if the
building's blown up? Like basically the building they
wanted to blow up had all the records of E Corp.
Like E Corp was trying to rebuild their database of all
the records that like the hackergroup wiped out.

(01:10:44):
And so they were then shipping all their paper records to this
one main building in New York. And that's what they were going
to blow up. They're going to make sure they
didn't have the paper records oflike the digital, basically the
backups for the digital files that they erased to basically
the crippled them even more. But even Mr. Robot, who is the

(01:11:05):
more like evil version of Elliotto just to put it into the
dichotomy, like even he was like, yeah, but we saved.
There's no, people aren't going to die.
And so like even he didn't have like an evil side to him.
So it's just so it's I think a lot.
I think that's why that one person really liked it.
Like, yeah, they had like what they said, like the the

(01:11:26):
stereotype, like they had the the persecutor, the like the
persecutor altar. But even she wasn't like 100%
evil type of thing. She said we got like she was
even, she was like, well, we have to tell him that he's
another personality. Like you have to tell him.
And then that Miss Robot's like,no, we can't tell him he's not
ready. And so like not basically not

(01:11:47):
ready mentally. And so even she was like not
wanting to completely ruin everything type of thing.
So but overall very good show. I mean, if you guys don't mind
spoilers and don't mind watchingthe movie or watching the show
even knowing everything, I stillrecommend it.
It's a very well made show. They even did like 1 episode.

(01:12:08):
The guy, the director, director,who is also the creator and
writer. He loves his one shots or
wonders where one episode looks like it was shot all as one
take. It wasn't obviously like they
did like sneaky little cuts hereand there, but it was all shot
as if it's one take. And so it's just, it's a very
well show. So even if even knowing the plot

(01:12:29):
and everything, it's just a verywell made show.
And I think everyone should watch it because it's great and
doesn't like not nowhere near enough people talk about it.
I'd never see I'd never hear of anyone who has seen it.
So I want to talk about it. And that was that was my input
up for this week. Yeah, I mean the one.
Episode I watched was actually really good, like I, I thought
it was good yeah. I don't know that it's something

(01:12:51):
that I will like watch independently, but I liked it.
Yeah. OK.
So are you, are you good? Are you satisfied?
Are you happy? Are we ready for fun?
And fuck are you? Yes.
Well, thanks. For.
That y'all that was. That was very interesting.
I I enjoy that topic. It was.

(01:13:14):
Something and it did kind of tieinto, you know, nerd emergency
type of thing as well. Yeah, Yeah.
Well, that's kind of the. I mean, we said that that was
kind of the goal. Sometimes they might have not
shit to do with it but I feel like.
A lot of the things we get. Into our community does seem to
get into or has some tie back toour community.
So I feel like it's. It it all.

(01:13:34):
Makes sense. We did it for a reason, you know
what I mean? Like we set it up this way for a
reason, right? So, but yeah, I think that was
great and I think we probably should have a more in depth
conversation about DID at some point where we really do get
into some serious research aboutit.
And. Try to do a more well informed

(01:13:55):
episode. Maybe we'll see if we can find
someone who's more of an expert on the topic to bring on.
When we do that episode, I do want to make sure that I'm
approaching that episode with like the utmost care because
like, it's definitely one of themore.
Complicated. It's definitely one of the more
complicated disorders, I think, yeah.
I just, I don't want people to feel any more villainized than

(01:14:18):
I'm sure society already makes them feel and already presents
them as because that's never ourour, our goal here.
So it's a topic I would like to cover, but probably not without
extensive research and maybe a guest on the show that has more
knowledge about it than we do. But all right, thanks for that
one, Aminder. That was wonderful.
So if you're not joining us after this section of the show,

(01:14:41):
if you're not here for fun and fuckery, which is valid, we
respect you and respect your time and your wishes, and that's
fine. But it really is much more fun
on the other side of this. So we encourage you to try it
once. It's it's fun if you if you
won't though all the new things are in the show notes.
I will make sure all the handlesmake sense and that you know
where to find us before I even hit upload on this episode, I'll

(01:15:06):
make sure all the the stuff has changed.
I will do all the due diligence before you even hit record.
It's actually even coming out late on the day of so all right
so you guys will know where to find us.
I hope y'all are on board with the changes.
This hopefully will be the last fucking time we do this for a
good God damn long while. So all right, here we go.

(01:15:29):
Let's hit the fun and the fuckery.
Here we are go. Someday I feel like we must make
a return to video because I thatI love that fucking yeah

(01:15:53):
transition so much. One day when we.
Have our shit a little bit more together.
I want to make the transition back, but today's not that day.
Today is not that. Day, sorry, we will do it
eventually. We have a gaming channel to get
awesome fucking I know. Yep, I have so much editing.

(01:16:13):
To do still anyway we made it tothe other side sorry wrong
button. I was kind of do this one and I
thought I was on it, but I I wasnot.
Although we missed that. We missed that too.

(01:16:34):
We missed Jeremy Jeremy's. I'm going to start playing that
when we do our Sims thing, I'm going to play it on The Sims
ones because I missed it. We worked.
I worked hard on that. That was great.
I like it too. OK, well, we have a mad Lib this
week. We do.
No. Sims this week.

(01:16:55):
Sims is next week. But also if.
You're in there if you're in thethe Merica's.
Happy Merica. Day tomorrow, it's also my son's
birthday, my oldest, so we're going to be doing murica things
tomorrow, trying to forget that this is a new dystopian

(01:17:17):
hellscape that we live in. I haven't heard anybody.
Like, I don't know if it's because people around here are
just tired or what, but like, I haven't heard, yeah, we're all
tired. Many.
I just haven't heard anyone put anyone put any like fireworks.
And usually like it's like usually leading up to like the
week of. Yeah, around here, we started
last fucking week. I know I was.
They were. There when I was there like, but

(01:17:39):
at least here like no one. I haven't really heard any
fireworks. So, well, lucky you we live in
the fucking boonies surrounded by Trump flags.
And. Yard signs so.
I. Expect it will be very God damn

(01:17:59):
loud over the next few days and my poor dog is going to lose her
shit. So.
My husband isn't quite fond of them either, although every year
that he's been home since. You know all.
Of that it's. Easier.
Thank God but he still is never a fan.
It's the the the screamy ones that go, the ones that go and

(01:18:21):
then boom. He hates that, hates that I hate
this like. I'd rather just hear the booms,
like I don't want to hear like the nails on a chalkboard,
shrieking noise, like banshee noises, yeah.
But anyway, let's do a fun. Let's let's do a.
Fun thing. I need words from you, ma'am.
OK, we have, we have our case. It's been a minute since we did

(01:18:43):
1. So we're still in our Unicorns,
Mermaids and Mad Libs book, and this one is going to be titled
An Encounter with Bigfoot. And I'm pumped for.
It So let's have a noun, please.Glockenspiel.
OK, I was like, oh. Glock, we're gonna It's really
is murk a time. Nope.

(01:19:03):
Block and spiel and you guys don't know what that is.
It's like a almost like a xylophone.
It's an instrument. More.
Marimba, not how we spell it. I'm sure, but that's what I'm
going to do a place. Satan's asshole.
Nice, because it's. That's what.
It feels like outside, 90° outside real.

(01:19:24):
Yeah, for. All our folks that deal with
apparently the easier system of things to measure by 90° is
what, in the 30s or something like that for them, I don't
know. Yeah, it's.
Got to be in. The 30s 'cause when you do
temperature in Celsius with kidslike 3738 is like, I think
normal. So we have to know, now hold on,

(01:19:48):
I have to know. Sorry, 90° not degrass.
Jesus Christ, Degrassi. What Degrassi Neil degrasse.
Yeah, it's 32, so 90° even is 32°C.
So it's in the 30s round here, folks.
For the people that don't live in Mirka.
Yeah, with like 90%. Humidity, so it's awful.

(01:20:11):
It's disgusting. It's a hot wet fucking blanket
outside. Just imagine trying to breathe
through a warm damp wash rag. That's what it feels like.
You ever tried to breathe? Through a warm, damp wash rag,
that's what it feels like. Basically, you know.
How like when you open up a, like you open up a a freshly
done dishwasher and your glassesfog up.

(01:20:32):
That's what happens when you walk outside, when you go from
air conditioning to outside. Like that's what happened to me
yesterday. My glasses fogged up and it was,
it was disrespectful, honestly. Yeah.
Gross. OK, I need a part of the body.
Please Buddha. Cheeks.
I I got it. Because I've been watching
somebody talking about the one big beautiful bill and he calls

(01:20:53):
it the big Booty Cheek bill. So.
I. Love OK A.
Noun please. Powdered wig.
Powdered. Wow bitch, I can't write words
today. Powdered wig.
OK. Adjective Fluffy.

(01:21:16):
I'm not fat. I'm.
Fluffy. Speaking of Fluffy, that's who
you didn't. You don't ever check the discord
Ray and Micah went to? Yeah, he told me.
Yeah, I'm. Palm.
I was so pumped for them. I'm like holy shit, he's like
the best. I would love to go to one of his

(01:21:36):
shows one day. It's like a bucket list thing.
But anyway, moving on. Adjective.
Mustachioed. What?
Mustachio, like when you have, when you have a mustache, it's
like, oh, he's a mustachioed man.
He has. He's a like a man with a
mustache. That's a real fucking word.
Yes, mustachioed is a real word.It sounds like it would.
Go in a sentence with Bungholio.Yeah, yeah, it means.

(01:22:00):
Someone it means like having a mustache.
You're a mustachioed. Sounds like some.
Beavis and Butthead shit. Yeah, and also tell Mustache ODE
it's something and. You can't say, oh, it's
something something you made-up.All words are made-up, Nikki.
OK, listen. Bitch I'm just saying it just it
sounds like some Beavis and butthead shit is all OK.

(01:22:23):
Part of the body. Plural, please schlongs.
Oh my God. Heck, this is gonna be.
Good. What's the next adjective I must
know? High octane.

(01:22:47):
OK, OK, you know it's going to be good when you're laughing
before it ever even gets red. OK, next adjective please.
Sorry kind. Of a boring one, but
ambidextrous. OK, it might.
Make sense anyway in this? OK.

(01:23:10):
Type of food Ballpark hot dog. OK, verb do.
I already know what it is. Verb bending an ING fucking.

(01:23:31):
Oh no, Nikki's. Dying.
Oh no. Oh, no.
Oh no. OK.
What kind of animal is it? Titmouse, which is neither a
tit, neither a boob or or a rodent.
OK, it's a bird. It's an actual bird name S.
Burb. It's burb.

(01:23:51):
OK, part of the body. Plural again.
Kneecaps. Oh no.
Not getting kneecapped? OK, another verb ending in ING.
Are we doing it again? No, just floundering.
No, we're doing it. Again, OK, I'm I'm vetoing it.
I'm sorry, I have to OK celebrity because I talked.

(01:24:13):
About him, Rami Malek. It's Rami.
Oh, this poor man. Yeah.
It's MA Malek. MALE.
K Rami Malek. Oh my God.
OK, OK, a noun. Mescaline.
Sure. Yeah, it's an.

(01:24:35):
LSD drug. Oh, Jesus.
Liquid gin and tonic. Oh.
Jesus Christ. And finally, a type of food.
I just did lemon because I made lemon cake.

(01:24:56):
OK. Oh, Jesus.
H Tap dancing Jesus, Hakeem, Christ, we can do this.
We're going to compose ourselves.
We're going to be a whole ass professional and adults.
And then it's. Going to fall apart.
OK, are we ready? Sure.
An encounter with Bigfoot beforethey vanished.

(01:25:19):
A well trained glockenspiel of explorers sent an SOS from the
snowy peaks of Satan's asshole. Claiming.
To have spotted big Moody cheeks.
Shit, this is what their powdered wig said.

(01:25:41):
And then in the following we have a very alarmed message to
read. Oh my God he's real.
I'm looking at Fluffy Foot rightnow and he's mustachioed.
I've never seen. Such human schlongs on a
creature so high off pain. Shut the fuck up.

(01:26:08):
OK, OK, OK, my kid in the background goes.
What? Oh no.
Close your ear holes. At.
At first he looked as ambidextrous as we all were, but
as we approached, he became coolas a ballpark hot dog, silently
fucking on us. Oh no, not fucked.

(01:26:32):
With a hot dog? Oh no, Silently.
Jesus Christ, OK. What's the matter?
I said Titmouse got your tongue,but we couldn't believe our
kneecaps he actually spoke. Now the creature.
Won't stop fucking on and on about Rami malek and mescaline

(01:26:53):
flavored gin and tonic. Help someone make this bee shut
his lemon hole. Lemon hole just.
Lemon hole just makes me think of what Like isn't that lemon
head like oh next out the ball? Yes.
Yes, that guy. For Adventure Time.
Oh, for. Fucks sake.

(01:27:14):
Oh dear God. OK, that was a good one.
We needed a good one. After my stinker last time it
wasn't as good. They can't all be good but that
was great. This this book is wonderful.
I hope we have to get another one just like this whenever it's
done. We need to get another good
crazy theme because they are making some funny ass stories.
Oh, not the yard. OK, except, oh, it's 352.

(01:27:37):
I made it a whole extra hour longer than I normally do for my
nap time. Holy shit.
OK, hold on. Let's let's let's hit the Julie.
Julie, do the thing. I'm afraid there are.
No more things to do and one more.
We did it. We did it.

(01:28:08):
We did it. Yeah, now.
We see most. We did it.
Yeah, OK, now we see. Most we did it, yeah.
Oh. Shit balls well.
That's the way the cookie. Crumbles, yeah.
That was good and I got shit to do.
Now I have to go change all our shit and get this uploaded.

(01:28:30):
Thank God we don't give a fuck about editing much anymore
unless we absolutely have to. It's actually quite nice because
the gaming channel is so edit heavy and takes me so fucking
long to do that. This is nice.
It's just like, hey, we said things, put it on the fucking
Internet, you know? So.
Yeah, thanks for hanging out with us all the way through the

(01:28:52):
end. As we said before, all the new
podcasty things will be in the show notes.
I hope you love the change and we will see you next week for
another episode. Of not.
Neurotypical girls I. Don't know if I love that.
Outro. But it's the thing I said, yeah,

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all right. And.
Workshop it you know, we'll workshop.
It we'll workshop it. All right.
I love you, lady. We will talk to you later.
OK. Love you.
Bye. Bye, goodbye.

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