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July 29, 2025 38 mins

Are you ready to transform the energy in your home? It might be simpler than you'd think. In our latest episode, we sit down with Dan Ubick, widely celebrated as DJ Constantine "Connie" Price. He explores the ways in which music shapes our environments and enriches our living spaces via the innovative Arthouse project.

This unscripted television series follows everyday individuals as they interact with local artists, explore studios, and discover original artwork that resonates with them—all while keeping within their budget. As Arthouse continues its crowdfunding campaign, Dan unveils the exclusive playlists he’s curated for donors and explains how listeners can get involved to make a tangible impact. 

For just $30, backers will gain access to the official Arthouse music playlist titled "Chill," curated by Dan himself to boost creativity and relaxation. But that’s just the start—contributing $25 will secure a limited edition show poster, while a $30 contribution also allows you to nominate an artist or town to be featured in future Arthouse episodes. For those feeling particularly generous, higher-tier contributions open the door to exceptional experiences, such as a private piano performance by the acclaimed Steinway artist Ric'key Pageot for $2,500, or the chance to receive an Associate Producer credit and an invitation to the wrap party for a $10,000 donation. All contributions are tax-deductible and will directly support the filming of the Arthouse pilot episode, slated for this summer in Chicago. 

A longtime composer, producer, and record collector, Dan's insights into how music enhances the creative experience are both enlightening and refreshing. In our conversation, he also shares anecdotes from his treasure hunts in record stores, showcasing his eclectic taste and continuous quest for hidden gems that ignite his creativity. His passion highlights the importance of accessibility in the arts, as he articulates how Arthouse aims to link everyday people with local artists and original works—creating an artistic community that thrives on inclusivity.

To learn more about Arthouse, support its mission, or nominate your favorite artist for future episodes, please visit Arthouse on Indiegogo

For more information, please visit https://notrealart.com/dan-ubick-arthouse-playlist

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Okay, as you know, it's thelast week of the month, and you know
what happens the last week ofthe month?
I drop an auditorial where Iget on my soapbox and talk about
something that's on my mind.
Well, today I've been soenjoying some music that I wanted

(01:52):
to talk about.
So you've heard about our ArtHouse project.
I can't stop talking about it.
I'm so excited.
We're doing a crowdfunding campaign.
Please, please, please go toarthouse tv show.com and contribute
to our Indiegogo campaign toraise the money we need to shoot
the pilot.
We have so many amazing perks,and actually, two of the coolest
perks we have are two music playlists.
The official music playlistfor Art House.

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One is for chill and create,which is a mellow vibe, so great
for chilling and creating.
And the other playlist is theget up playlist, which, of course,
you can't help yourself.
You got to get up and dance tothis playlist.
Each playlist is about threehours long, about 100 songs, 50 songs
each, but 100 songs, they're incredible.
And I've just been listeningto these playlists nonstop, basically

(02:34):
for the last month when I got them.
And you can have them too, fora $30 donation.
If you go to the arthouse tvshow.com Indiegogo crowdfunding page,
you can get these playlistsfor a $30 donation.
Which is a great valueconsidering how great this music
is.
You're getting three.
And so it's incredible.
I wanted to tell you about it today.
And then, then, you know, as Ithought about it, because usually

(02:56):
with auditorials, it's just meranting and raving like I'm doing
now.
But then I thought, well, waita minute, let's just do one better,
you know, let's change it up today.
Let's actually have a guest onwith me to talk about it.
And what better guest than theDJ himself who curated the music
for us?
DJ Constantine, AKA Danubek,friend of the show, friend of the
crew, colleague, confidant,partner in crime, the one and only

(03:20):
Dan Ubik, AKA DJ Constantine.
And so I called up Dan, Isaid, dan, I really would love for
you to curate the officialmusic playlist for our Art House
project that we can use for perks.
And he didn't hesitate.
He's like, I'm on it.
And within a matter of twodays, I had, well, maybe three days,
but I had two playlists thatwere just amazing.

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Like I said, three hours each,six hours of music, over 100 songs
total, and I just can't stop listening.
But, you know, Dan is justthat kind of guy.
I mean, he's a producer,composer, multi instrumentalist.
He grew up out here inSouthern California.
His father was a jazz bass player.
His mother, of course,listened to the Beatles at classic
music, and she's an artist, soshe'd make jewelry while she's listening

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to Bowie and Traffic and yesand Genesis and Zeppelin and on and
on and on.
And of course, Dan couldn'thelp himself.
And he followed in hisfather's footsteps as an artist,
as a musician, and now he has.
I mean, what doesn't he do?
I mean, he's a arranger andmulti instrumentalist, producer,
engineer, dj, plays all overtown, has a recording studio, records

(04:27):
artists, produce artists, andthen of course, he's also the host
of our podcast, the ConduitMusic Podcast.
So check that out when you geta chance.
So I wanted Dan to come on andtalk about these playlists that he
curated for Art House.
They're incredible.
I want you guys to get them,please go to arthouse tv show.com
and contribute $30 tax deductible.
$30 and get the playlist andwe'll get it over to you.

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It's incredible.
And if you're feelinggenerous, maybe you want to give
60, we'll send you both.
But you can't go wrong.
And I know you're going tolove It.
So, without further ado, let'sget into this conversation I had
with the one and only DJConstantine, AKA Dan Ub.

(05:14):
Dan Ubik.
Welcome to the show.
Thank you, Scott.
Good to be here.
Thanks for having me, man.
Man, you're.
You're like our returningchampion, you know, like, I, I love
it.
I, I don't even know how manytimes, because you and I have worked
on so many projects now overthe years that it's hard to kind
of keep track.
Like, okay, what was he okay,was he on the podcast or did he make
the podcast?
Did he host the podcast?

(05:34):
And you know what?
But you're back, you're backon the, on the show here today.
And I'm so grateful thatyou're here classing up the joint.
And people might be wondering,sort of like what hat you're wearing
right now, because you wear somany different hats both in your
daily professional life as a,as a world class musician and producer
and music engineer.

(05:54):
You might be wearing a hatthat, you know, because people know
you as the host of the Conduit podcast.
So they might say, wait aminute, is Dan back to talk about
some new episode of the Conduit?
But no, actually the hatyou're wearing today is that of DJ
Constantine, one of the manydimensions and the many facets of
your amazing artistic life.

(06:15):
And I'm so grateful that youwere able to come on and talk about
what DJ Constantine has beenup to lately, at least as it relates
to our little world here atCrew Studio.
And just to give the audiencea little bit of context here, some
of some people might befamiliar, but we've been developing
this show project called Art House.
And it's an unscriptedtelevision show about real people

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meeting real artists to buyreal art without breaking the bank.
Which is awesome, right?
And we're gonna go.
Art House is all about goingto, you know, kind of smaller communities.
You know, we're not going toNew York, LA or Miami.
We're going to Toledo, we'regoing to Topeka.
We're going to, to, toHachapia and town of pa. Yeah, exactly.
All the teas.

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It's exciting, this project.
And you know, because it's artcentric project and because we're
really doing our best to, youknow, democratize art and educate
people about art.
You know, not just how to buyart or, you know, meet artists or
art making, but, you know, aswe got into this and we thought,
you know, music is obviouslyart and, you know, we need.

(07:23):
We.
What is the Official music forArt house.
What, you know, what, what,you know, if somebody's watching
the show, what might the musicbe playing?
Or better yet, if somebody islike, wants to really kind of live
the brand, if you will, as thecool kids say, you know, what kind
of music should they belistening to?
And of course, we're doingthis crowdfunding campaign on Indiegogo,
and, you know, I want toencourage everybody to go check it

(07:44):
out and please give us ashuckle or two.
You know, one of the fun kindof perks was, you know, hey, let's
create this sort of officialart house music playlist.
And when I first thought ofthat, I thought, you know, the only
person in the world, as far asI'm concerned, that's qualified to
put this very idiosyncratic,important playlist together is, of

(08:08):
course, the one and only DJConstantine, AKA Dan Ubik.
So I called you up and I said,dan, what do you think?
And you said, hell, yeah, it's true.
I love putting playliststogether and inspiring playlists
together.
That's.
Well, that was.
Yeah, that was a very.
That was a very long ramble.
But I mean, the initial.
The initial ask of you was,hey, man, can you come up with some.

(08:31):
Some songs, some music, some.
Some.
Some sonics that people mightwant to listen to to get creative
and to kind of, you know, gettheir creative juices flowing?
Yeah.
And then.
And then, not only did you dothat, but then you pivoted and said,
hey, man, I'm going to do aplaylist for.
For, you know, when it's timeto dance, you know, like, get up
and groove, you know.

(08:52):
So you've created twoplaylists and the official Art House
Inspiration Chill and Createplaylist and the official Art House
Inspiration get up playlist.
And this.
These are basically threehours of music, each playlist, six
hours total, almost.
I mean, how do you do it, man?
I mean, this is some deep cuts here.
Oh, man.

(09:12):
Well, you know, I mean, I'msurrounded by musicians and DJs,
so we all kind of turn eachother onto stuff by going to see
each other, you know, you.
Oh, man, what was that onesong you played?
So I'm, you know, constantlyfinding out about new music, searching
on the web, listening to myfriends who are as musically obsessed
as I am.
But then I also have, like, mymom is a jeweler for the last 60

(09:35):
years.
She listens to music whileshe's doing making her jewelry and
is totally inspired by that.
My friend Megan Allsopp is.
She does all kinds ofbeautiful stained glass work up here
in the canyon and clay work,you know, with their kiln.
I have friends who just do artacross the spectrum, painters, you
know, every.
Every form of art there is.

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And so initially, initially Iwas thinking about music that doesn't
have words in it.
Most of it, just because thatcan be kind of distracting.
So kind of the Chill andCreate playlist that I made has a
lot of stuff that'sinstrumental, a lot of jazz, a lot
of bossa nova, samba music,and also music from different cultures

(10:19):
where maybe the listenerdoesn't speak Swahili or Portuguese
or French or whatever it might be.
So they're just listening tothe melody and listening to the uplifting
melodies by not being.
Being distracted by the words,which is kind of nice.
And then the ones I chose thatdo have words I felt are pretty uplifting
and positive words just tokind of put on while you're doing

(10:43):
your creating, while you'redoing your own art.
The get up and Dance playlistwas meant to be.
Yes.
You know, on this rollercoaster ride of a life us artists
all live.
You know, sometimes we getdown and we.
What songs would kind of bringpeople up out of their slump and
get them out of bed, get usout of bed, make us feel like, you

(11:03):
know what, I'm going to justjump up and get this day started,
maybe put it on my, you know,playlist on my phone and just go
for a walk and have this onand just start moving.
So I feel like there's a good balance.
One playlist for maybe whileyou're working, one playlist to get
out and walk and breathe andget inspired, you know, so those

(11:27):
are things I need all the time.
So I just felt like every songI put in there is something that
picks me up in both of those scenarios.
Yeah, well, that's the thing.
I mean, it really comesacross, at least for me, how intentional
you were about the curation ofthese artists and this music on both

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playlists.
I mean, there is like theamount of thought, of course you're,
you know, boy, do you haveyour 10,000 hours.
Probably more like 30,000hours at this point.
So it's not, you know, I knowyou put like good time, you put.
You put a fair amount of timeinto this stuff.
But, but, but, but based onthe, the.
My reading of it, I mean, itjust feels so thoughtful, so intentional

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that, that, you know, for aneophy like me, I think, my God,
how many hours did you spenddoing this?
But you're a pro, right?
So you Know you, you know,you, you cut that in half.
But, but it just is clear tome how thoughtful and considered
every song is.
Oh, thanks.
Well, you know, it's adifferent kind of discipline DJing

(12:31):
live when you're playing aparty because you're kind of reading
the room to see what's goingto fit.
You're also time sensitive.
This one's ending, I got tothrow on something else real quick.
Sometimes it's exactly whatyou had in mind, sometimes it's what
you could find that maybe works.
But with playlists like this,I really got to kind of dig in, find
a flow that works a and reallychoose songs that I felt like fit

(12:57):
in with the vibe of each ofthe two playlists.
So that was.
It's a super fun thing to dofor me because I just love so much
different kinds of music.
Well, and that's another big point.
I mean, because the word thatcomes to mind when I think about
these playlists is the word eclectic.
And there's just so manyamazing artists on here that I've
quite frankly never heard of.
Yeah.

(13:18):
And yet it all works, it allcomes together and you know, that's
the difference.
Like when you work with asubject matter expert, a real industry
pro like yourself, I mean, thelevels and layers to something that
you bring to it, you know,because of your depth of knowledge.
It's just so obvious on theseplaylists because, yeah, sure, there
are plenty of artists in musicthat I recognize that I was, you

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know, heard before, familiar.
But I'm going to say at leasthalf, if not two thirds to me was
all new.
And you know, I like to thinkof myself as being a fairly savvy
music listener, but indeed,you really surprised me and really
delighted me with some ofthese deep so called deep cuts or
whatever.
I so appreciate that.

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I mean, that's part of thedigging experience for me as a record
collector is really justfinding that new inspiring song I
didn't know about.
Like, I have a list in my whatI'm looking for, hoping to find copies
of list in my discogs.
But my favorite thing when I'mdigging for records is just seeing
something look looksinteresting that I know nothing about

(14:23):
throwing it on the turntablein the shop and just being like,
oh my God, what is that?
I never heard that.
Or just having a friend, youknow, any of the DJs I know around
town from Novena on KCRW andAnthony Valadez and Jeremy Soule
and all these people that I'mso grateful to know a bit.
Mario Caldado has turned me onto so much amazing Brazilian music.

(14:47):
I mean, it's just endless.
I'm so grateful to know somany people around and, you know,
you just find artists that youdidn't know about or you find a Monkees
song.
I'm looking at my playlisthere that's like, I like the Monkees.
I like Daydream Believer andall those big Monkees hits.
But my friend Andrew turned meonto this song, me and Magdalena.
And I think it's one of themost beautiful songs I've ever heard.

(15:09):
Like, I didn't know theMonkees did songs like that, you
know, and when I.
When he played it for me, Iwas like, holy crap.
It's like a Brian Wilson or aPaul McCartney John Lennon song.
It's just like that deep and beautiful.
So it's just like, you know,you just find those ones that you
never would have thought andthere it is all of a sudden.

(15:31):
So I hope people find hiddengems in here that inspire them and
make them feel great.
Well, and not only is the sortof song list curated with such great
thought and intention, butthen it's as a good DJ does, right?
It's organized in a way that is.
There's a logic, right, to thecure, to the actual, like, ordering

(15:54):
of the.
Of the music and.
And you just go on a journey.
You just take us on a journey.
Well, that's important to meas a dj, is playing songs where,
like, you don't want to playtoo many up really intense songs,
one after the other after theother after the other, because the
listener's just going to belike, it's just too much to take

(16:14):
in.
People need to breathe.
People need to cleanse, youknow, like, it's like a sushi dinner.
You have to eat ginger inbetween each one and kind of have
something new happen andsomething totally different.
You know, have a rock, have anupbeat one that's fun and kind of
makes you move around, andthen have a quiet one that kind of
soothes you for a second.
So the flow of it is veryimportant to me.

(16:37):
So I'm.
Thank you for noticing that.
Yeah.
Now, the flow is key.
The flow is key.
And this, by the way, what I'msaying and what we're talking about
or what I'm saying applies toboth playlists.
I mean, because they are verydifferent vibes, of course, but.
But the logic and theintelligence and the.
The deafness of your.

(16:58):
Of your.
Of your hand is apparent onboth playlists.
And, man, I mean, you definitely.
I can.
You know, it's interestingbecause if.
If I.
If I'm working, and it evendepends on, like, what kind of work
I might be doing, butgenerally speaking, if I'm doing
real deep work, I can't listento music with lyrics.

(17:21):
Yeah, same.
I just, you know, and by theway, sometimes I can't even listen
to jazz music when I'm workingbecause jazz is such a.
Like an intellectual.
For me, it's such anintellectual exercise as much as
anything.
Because you want to thinkabout the music, right?
A lot of it can be.
Yeah, well, a lot of it.
Right.
And.
And.
But.
But the Chill and Createplaylist that you have is so.

(17:44):
Is.
It's just so thoughtfully andcarefully and professionally sort
of put together that at leastfor me, man, I love listening to
it while I work.
I mean, it just really, reallysets the tone and creates the vibe
for me to do real work andenjoy the work that much more.

(18:04):
And it's not at all distracting.
The music.
It is nothing but sort ofcomplimentary and inspiring and supplemental,
you know?
Yes.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah.
Chill and Create, man.
Just throw it on.
It can be in the background.
A melody maybe will just inspire.
Oh, that was pretty.
What was that?
And then you dig in deeperwhen you have a minute.

(18:27):
But as you're sitting theredoing your creating, it can just
be a lovely kind of pillow foryou to rest on as you're creating
a good mood.
Well, and the same thingapplies to the get up playlist, because
every man that gets going.
I can't work to that.
I'm too busy dancing.
Good, good.
Get out and ride your bike.
Get out and walk in the mountains.

(18:49):
All these things that we're solucky to do out here in California
and so many places.
But, yeah, get out and breatheand remember how lucky we are to
have the day on this planet.
So of all the songs that youhave, and I mean, again, it's almost
six hours of music between thetwo playlists, but I think, based

(19:09):
on my calculations.
So about three hours each.
50 songs on each one, I think.
Or 51.
Yeah, yeah.
Baker's dozen of sorts.
I mean, this might not be afair question, but I'm just curious.
Like, like, like, do you knowwhat song on this list is, like,
the oldest song that you'veknown versus the newest song that

(19:31):
you've done?
And when I say known, I mean,like, discovered.
So, like, is there a song onhere that you discovered 20 years
ago, and is there a song onhere that you discovered last Week.
Yes, and.
Yes.
And there's songs from 40years ago, and there's songs that
were made this year on these.
Amazing.
What are the tracks?

(19:52):
What's the oldest song, thesong I've known about for the longest
time?
Well, there's a song calledSabor Ami by Edie Gourmet and Los
Panchos.
That's a famous old Mexicanfolk song.
I found out about it becauseLos Lobos did it on their first record
called the Band from east la.

(20:13):
So I heard their version firstand of course was like, this song
is just gorgeous.
What is.
What is this?
And found out they got it fromEdie Gourmet and Los Panchos.
So I've known about that onefor a long time.
Let's see.
Koomba by.
By orchestra.
Baobab.
I've known that one a long time.

(20:35):
Sporting Life by James Brownfrom his Black Caesar soundtrack.
You think James Brown.
It's going to be like somewild, funky, funky thing.
And it is funky, but it's alsokind of mellow and nice.
So there's a few I've known.
Bluebird by Paul McCartneyfrom Band on the Run.
Sure, yes.
Fire Dance by Gabor Szabo.
He's like one of my favoriteguitar players, this Hungarian guitar

(20:58):
player.
I've known that record foryears and years and years.
I love it.
Small Talk by Sly Stone, I'veKnown A Long Time.
Brighter later by Nick Drake.
So a lot of these I've knownfor a while and ones that I've recently
found out about, this Fundo deQuintal, the Pago Diando.

(21:19):
It's a batukada, like aBrazilian drum record that my friend
Bobby turned me onto.
High On a Rocky Ledge by Moondog.
I found out about from Jeremy Soule.
He's a huge Moondog fanatic.
Shout out, Jeremy.
Yeah, Jeremy's always gotgreat tunes.
He turns me on, too.
What else?
Let's see.

(21:40):
Cool down the Pace by Gregory Isaacs.
I always knew Night Nurse andthe other songs from that record,
but my son Leo got me intoCool down the Pace.
So those are.
Oh, we've got My Dog.
My Little Inspiration justcame in.
Yeah.
And then from the.
From the get up one.
Gosh.
The one that I recently foundout about is this Antonio Adolfo
y Brazuca Brazilian groupcalled Trans Amazonica.

(22:02):
That is just the coolestBrazilian song ever.
Let's see what else is on here.
Ooh, this Nina Simone recordcalled Silk and Soul that I found
out about a couple years agoand just found a copy on Vinyl for
not too expensive because it'spricey on Discogs.
I found it in the wild calledSome say that's a beautiful one with

(22:24):
Aretha Franklin's drummer onit, or Bernard Purdy, one I've known
about for a while, but it justcame out on 45.
Again is Tikla, my friend fromNew York who plays with the group
Antiballis, the Afrobeatgroup, but he also does all these
great reggae and rocksteady productions.
He has this mashup of kind ofJamaican and salsa influences.
Tikla versus Axelrod.

(22:44):
The song Mi Sancito, that's aremake of an old salsa song.
Then Stalag from King Tubby.
I mean, on and on and on.
I mean, there's just.
That's a famous old Jamaicanrhythm bomb bomb by Sister Nancy,
who's just playing it inTopanga in a couple weeks at the
Reggae on the Mountain festival.
Still sounds amazing.
Amazing Sister Nancy.

(23:06):
I mean, there's so many.
Like you said, there's 50songs on each of these.
Tighten up the.
You know, the old da da da dada da.
There's a version by AlEscobar and his orchestra that my
friend Clifton, DJ Clifton,shout out.
Amazing LA DJ turned me onto afew years back.
That's an old Fania 45.
That's killer.
Nancy Sinatra's Happy.

(23:26):
You think Nancy Sinatra, youthink of these Boots Were Made for
Walking.
But her version of her songHappy has some of the funkiest drums
on it ever.
I got into that a few years back.
There's so many.
There's so many good songs.
It is.
It is it.
Yes.
And I mean, you know, youcould go on and on and, like, you
know, I mean, like you said,there's 100.
100 songs on two lists here.

(23:47):
Totally.
It's incredible.
It truly is incredible.
And one has to wonder, youknow, how the sausage gets made sometimes.
Right?
I mean, at the end of the day,you know, obviously you were able
to kind of jump on this likeyou did because of the 10, 20, 30,000
hours of experience that youhave in this artist life that you

(24:09):
live.
You know, one of the things that.
That.
Yeah, and you kind of alreadymentioned sort of a list that you
might have that.
Of music that you're lookingfor, things that you.
You hope to acquire.
But when you walk into arecord shop, it's just like a kid
in a candy store.
I mean, how do you even start?
Like, is the view.

(24:29):
Is it.
Like, what do you have aprocess that you sort of are faithful
to no matter the Shop?
Or do you just sort of readthe room and kind of go where your
instincts take you?
Like.
Like, how do you.
And I'm guessing you'respending hours in some of these shops,
but, I mean, what is themethod to the madness?
How does the sausage get made?
How do you find those littlegolden nuggets buried in the haystack

(24:50):
there?
Oh, man.
Well, I hate to say this, it'stotally embarrassing, but every time
I walk into a record store.
Every time almost.
And it's not like because I'mgetting older and I have some kind
of prostate problem, but Ialways have to pee right as I get
into a record store.
Yes.
It's like I get so excited.
This is totally weird.
I'm admitting too much maybe,but I'm telling you, I walk in, I

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get.
There, it's like my kid playsa book, everybody poops, it's fine.
Luckily, it's not a poop.
I don't have to instantly poopwhen I get a record store.
Into a record store, but Ialmost always have to pee.
But yeah, anyway, so sideanecdote there.
But, yeah, I mean, I alwayshave, like, whatever.
I have, like, every year in myitunes playlist, I have songs that

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I'm just, like, loving that Idon't have on vinyl, what I've just
found out about.
So I'm kind of have ones thatare in my head at the time that I'm
always looking for in stores.
And then I just look, youknow, I just look and look and look.
And like I said before, it'salways kind of more fun to.
That's a label.
I know.
You know, that's.
It's probably going to be good.
Let me throw it on the turntable.
Oh, my God.

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How did I never know aboutthis one?
And there's one that I justdidn't even know about that I found,
you know, that was a buck or whatever.
So it's really.
Yeah.
I mean, time spent.
Lots of time spent.
But those are kind of my two things.
I have running lists in myhead on my phone, and then I just
like to kind of dig and seewhat I find, too.
And.
Good sign if you have to pee, maybe.

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Bad sign if you have to poop,Excellent sign if you get an erection.
You know.
That'S never how.
I don't have a sexual reactionto music yet.
Yeah, maybe.
Maybe Barry White and MarvinGaye, I guess.
Give it time.
Give it time.
Sexual healing and whatnot.
Exactly.
I. I've never had to indulgein a.

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In a way as you do, becauseI'm not a dj.
But, but I, but I do lovegoing into a record shop.
I mean, you know, for no other reason.
It's, it takes me back to myyouth because, you know, the cool
kids these days, well, thecool, really cool kids these days
love record shop.
But many kids these days arejust streaming music.
They, they don't necessarilyhave that experience of going and
finding the album or buyingthe album or throwing it on a turntable,

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but just the, the sheer volumeof music, the sheer volume of artists.
Has anybody ever quantified?
I mean, my God, how manyrecords have ever been recorded and
produced?
How many artists have everrecorded a song?
I mean, it must be countless.
I don't know that anybodyreally knows the answer to that.
Oh, it's countless.

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And it's like, you know, mostall of the DJs I know are pretty
humble people because as soonas you think you know everything,
you don't really know anything.
You know, it's like I, I knowa lot of Jamaican records, I know
a lot of Brazilian records,but then I hang out with so and so
and so and so.
I'm like, didn't know that one.

(27:41):
Didn't know, you know, like,it's, it's endless.
And certain parts of the globehere in the States, Jamaica, Brazil,
Africa, there's a lot ofplaces where you just, certain eras
were so prolific with goodmusic that it's like you could never
get to the bottom of it all.
Yeah, man, it's just anembarrassment of riches in that way.
Right.
But that is, that is the pot.

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The most positive thing Ifound about streaming is, you know,
no, they don't pay artists asmuch as they should be paid, but
it is kind of like the library.
Like I used to go to thelibrary and when you could check
out records back when I was akid, you know, right now that's streaming
for me.
Oh, what's that?

(28:23):
You know, how's that, what is that?
Like, I can check it out thereand if I really dig it, I go buy
it, you know?
Right, right.
But it saves you from kind oflike going and spending a bunch of,
you know, your hard earnedmoney on something, getting it home
and it's not great.
Yeah, well, but you know, you,you mentioned streaming and it's
like as an artist, right, youhave a love hate relationship, I'm
sure, with streaming and, butyou know, one of the downsides for

(28:47):
me, because I'm not looking atmy royalty check getting smaller
and smaller because of courseI don't get royalty checks because
I'm not a musician.
But the.
But, but, but as a music listener.
Yeah.
One of the things that I don'tlike about streaming, I mean.
Well, let's start with the positive.
One of the things I like aboutstreaming is that of course, it's
very convenient and easy to do.

(29:08):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Just let it play, let itshuffle, whatever.
But the downside of that is Imay or may not have somebody telling
me what the hell I'm listening to.
You know, one of the, one ofthe things that's great about listening
to a great DJ on KCRW or someother station or whatever is that
they're going to likely tellyou the artist and a little bit about

(29:29):
the music and the artist.
You're going to have context,you're going to be able to have some
knowledge and some history andsome learning around that artist,
around that song.
With streaming, it's just likestreaming, no breaks.
And you might hear a greattune and if you don't take time to
stop, you know, look at thesong, favorite it, hard it, whatever,
save it to your playlist,whatever, you may not know who that

(29:50):
was.
And if it, you know, if it'sfive minutes later and they moved
on to the next song, you may,you know, you may not be able to
figure out, well, who thatartist was.
And so, I don't know.
I mean, just being able tohave someone like you who, who understands
not just a great song and,and, and what, what somebody might
want to dance to, but to, toknow the artist and the history and

(30:10):
the, the origin story of thatmusic is just.
For me, it's priceless.
Absolutely.
There's so many positivesabout streaming and artists doing
playlists on Spotify or AppleMusic or whatever it might be.
That's amazing because you'reright, you get all that insight that
someone might have all oftheir 10,000 hours of experience

(30:31):
choosing these curatedplaylists for people to listen to.
I think that's amazing.
Really.
The only thing I don't likeabout streaming is that these CEOs
of the companies arebillionaires and they're not sharing
that money with all theseartists they're making money off
of.
That's really the only thing Idon't like about it.
The platform itself and whatit does is amazing.

(30:51):
Amazing.
It's amazing.
I just don't like.
Are you speaking of platforms,Speaking of platforms, what do you,
what do you tend to listen andstream from?
Do you.
Are you a. I have, my kidshave everything.
I just log into The AppleMusic one.
It's easy for me because Ihave an iPhone, so I use Apple Music.
I don't have Spotify.
Right.
Yeah.
I recently started listeningto Spotify because I've always been

(31:15):
Apple Music guy, really.
And then in recent months,really, I bit the bullet and signed
up for Spotify and they'veadded this new feature, it's the
DJ feature.
And of course it's an AIempowered kind of dj, but it actually
does a really interesting jobof serving up music that is both.

(31:42):
Well, it's all built on mykind of profile and listening history
or whatever, but then it'sable to play and insert and suggest
other music based on the profile.
And usually with the stream,with the referral kind of, if it's
Netflix, you know, say, oh,you, you watch this movie, so you
might like that movie.
I generally hate that, youknow, as a, as a rule.

(32:02):
But whatever AI that Spotifyis using for this DJ function, it
really is surprising.
Like it will break out some stuff.
It's like, wow, okay, now thatreally feels like something that
I do want to hear based on aprevious, you know, selection or
something.
And, and, and yet there's alsoa voice.
Like the DJ has a Persona anda voice and he'll talk to you and

(32:23):
he'll tell you a little bitabout the artist and it's, it's a,
it's a really weird thing, butit's also really kind of amazing.
Oh, that is cool.
Yeah, that is amazing.
I wonder if you could get theAustralian woman's voice that does
my Google Maps to be my dj.
She can mispronounce names in Spanish.

(32:45):
Yes, yes.
Yeah.
So I don't know, man, I don't know.
But it's incredible that youas a human and I think all these
AI tools on a certain level, Ithink puts a premium on the handmade,
the human made, the, you know,real handmade human made artwork
and music and so on and so forth.
But translating that humanknowledge that you have as a, as

(33:08):
a real working DJ of threedecades or whatever it is, I mean,
you know, that's what's bakedinto these playlists for art house
and that's that kind ofhumanity that you're bringing to
this, that you brought to this.
And man, I couldn't, I can'tthank you enough.
It's a wonderful, wonderfuljob there, man.

(33:29):
Musically obsessed recordcollector for three decades, DJing
maybe 15 years.
I finally started doing itabout that long ago.
All my friends were DJs andthey're like, dude, you have so many
records, you got a dj, you canmake money and buy more records.
So just full disclosure,there's folks who've been doing it

(33:51):
way long, but, yeah, I thinkabout 15 years now.
I've been doing it it, but somuch fun.
I love DJing for people, lovemaking curated cool playlists for
people.
So, so grateful to get to doit for you guys.
Well, I, and hopefully inspirewhen you.
Do it for us.
We love when you DJ our events.
You, you've done a few of ourevents and of course, we've worked
on several projects together.

(34:12):
And, and you, you, you bring,you bring the, you brought the juice
yet again, my friend.
The juice.
The juice.
Well, speaking of juice, Iknow you're a busy man, I know you've
got things to do, but.
But before we go, you know,you've had a chance to look at Art
House and think about Art House.
Obviously you've curated thisplaylist for Art House.

(34:33):
What do you, you know, as anartist, as somebody who's, you know,
we've worked together, youknow, why do you think Arthouse,
as a project, as a TV show,why do you think there's value in
it and there's a meaning to it?
Like, why, why do you find itto the extent that you find it, you
know, to be at a.
To be.

(34:53):
What's the word?
I want, you know, I don'tknow, a meaningful show.
Like, what, what resonateswith you about it?
The thing that resonates withme about it is, you know, we, in
our society, there's, youknow, we need doctors, we need lawyers,
and thank God for all them.
And people who, you know, doamazing things and are on different

(35:14):
pay scales than, you know,others are artists, for the most
part, are, you know, kind ofliving pretty month to month.
And I think pairing people andcommunities with local artists is
just about the coolest thingyou could do because it gives all
those.
It beautifies people's homes,it gives people, you know, just income

(35:38):
for doing their amazing craftthat takes years and years to do.
And I think the more we can,we can give people work to do these
beautifications, whether it bepaintings or sculptures or stained
glass or music is just aboutthe coolest thing you can do with
your money.

(35:59):
All of the amazing artists inyour community could really use some
support to keep doing thisbeautiful stuff that they do.
So thanks for doing this, Scott.
It's awesome.
Hey, man.
Hey.
Thank you.
Well, you're welcome.
And thank you.
And you know, my passion foryears and Years have always been
about really helping artiststell their stories and promote their
work.
And, you know, we want to dothat in novel and interesting ways,

(36:21):
but we also want to do it in away that has mass market appeal.
The so called art world's donea very good job of making art as
a positioning art, visual artin particular, as a luxury item that
should be collected and, youknow, for economic benefit or what
have you.
And the truth of the matter isthere are millions and millions of

(36:42):
independent working artistsand communities all over this country
that need support and need,you know, to be lifted up and celebrated
and elevated and, And.
And that's what, you know, ashow like Art House does, because
we're not, you know, we're.
We're going to Toledo, we'regoing to Topeka, you know, and, and
we're gonna talk to thoseartists there, you know, we're gonna

(37:03):
work with people there.
And, you know, you talk aboutthe earth without art is just meh.
You know, I believe that artisn't a luxury.
It's fundamental.
And whether it's music orvisual art, we need it in our lives.
Because at the end of the day,it's not an economic asset, it's
a spiritual asset.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a spiritual asset.
It lifts you up, lifts you upevery day, whether you're looking

(37:25):
at it or listening to it orholding it.
Buy a print, buy an lp, buy asmall sculpture, buy a small piece
of stained glass, whatever youcan afford, whatever is in your budget.
But artists all need supportand it's so cool to give it to them.
Right on, brother.
Let's keep this art beautiful.
Thank you for supporting our project.

(37:48):
Thank you for being you brother.
And just keep on keeping on.
You are so welcome.
And that's the plan.
Dan Ubig, DJ Constantine.
Thank you, brother.
Thank you.
You're so welcome, Scott.
Love you, bud.
Love you, man.
Peace.
See you soon.
Oh, yeah.

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