A Deep Dive into the Currents of College Protests and National Identity

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As we peel back the layers of college campus protests, Scott Lassenen  and Gitas Hajjo join me in a raw and eye-opening conversation that cuts to the heart of American values. We dissect the recent surge in demonstrations, contrasting them with the notorious Kent State incident, and question the true intentions behind the outrage. The authenticity of these uprisings is put under the microscope, particularly during an election year, when political maneuvering could be fanning the flames of discord. Our dialogue extends to the controversial reactions to these protests, advocating for a return to informed activism and a united political discourse. 

The sanctity of our national symbols comes into sharp focus in this episode. The three of us stand united in our disapproval of flag desecration and the deep divide it signifies, sparked by recent events of foreign flags hoisted in place of the American flag. We applaud the NYPD and Mayor Adams for their exemplary handling of such situations and engage in a profound discussion about patriotism, identity, and the respect owed to the emblems that represent our nation. Personal stories weave through our talk, as we grapple with the challenges of finding common ground amidst polarized opinions.

Finally, we take a moment to honor the disciplined spirit of our military and MMA warriors. Hajjo shares touching narratives of his brother's journey in the Navy and his passion for MMA, drawing parallels between the rigorous demands of both. We also spotlight leaders who put America's interests first, like Tulsi Gabbard who exemplifies the essence of effective leadership. Join us for an episode that navigates the tumultuous waves of protest culture and political division, and offers a beacon of hope for unity and resilience in the American psyche.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we're back , another episode of Not the
Press, and I've got two repeatoffenders here Scott Lawson and
Gitas Hajjo.
What are we going to be talkingabout today?
We're going to be talking aboutthe process, all the hate and
discontent and protests that aregoing on around our
universities.
Universities and, just as areminder, I think it was 50, 54

(00:29):
years ago today the protests atKent State University were four
students were shot, nine wereinjured due to anti-war protests
.
But there's a distinctdifference between those
protests and the protests thatare going on today, and I think
that's some of the stuff thatit's on a lot of Americans'
minds, you know, with Americanflags being tore down and
foreign flags being put up, thecall of death to, you know,

(00:56):
hundreds of thousands of peoplebecause of what they believe in.
So there's a lot of stuff totalk about with this, and I
think it's a heavy subject, butit has to be discussed and
people need to be discussingaround their dinner tables or
around a table like this, oraround a fire or with a beer in
hand.
Um, so we can sort this stuffout and make sure that we put

(01:17):
this stuff to rest and we try tofigure out a solution for it.
So with that, scott, we'regoing to go around the table and
we'll start.
What are your initial?
From October 7th until now, youknow what's your initial
thought with all the proteststhat have been going on with
this.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
So I haven't seen much of the protests, you know,
after the October 7th incidentwhen everything happened over in
Israel.
Haven't really seen much untiljust like the last you know few
weeks in the college campus.
So you know you really haven'tbeen following it much.
You, you know, see all thestuff in the news with, you know

(01:59):
the Israeli offensive in Gazaand stuff like that, but you
know nothing so much consideringprotest here in the United
States until everything has justpopped up within the last you
know few weeks at the collegecampuses.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Yeah, and you know what.
You know just to throw somefacts on there, just doing, you
know, a little digging on this,max on there, just doing a
little digging on this stuffthat I didn't know.
If you saw the list of collegesthat the protests have happened
and where they are stagedcurrently it's ridiculous right

(02:36):
now and I could go through thelist on here.
I will tell you it's long.
You know where protests havehappened and we're looking at
Columbia UCLA.
You know where protests havehappened and we're looking at
Columbia UCLA, city College inNew York City, gw, ut, austin
the list goes on when they'recurrently stage two happen.
The list is even longer.
They've already got it staged,they've already got it ready to

(02:57):
go and you know.
Just to be clear, there'snothing wrong with protest, is
good.
But when you have people thatdon't even know what they're
protesting about and calling fordeath to people, that's a
problem and it's just causing alot of bad shit to happen in our

(03:18):
country and Gitas.
What are your?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
feelings about the whole thing, the protesting, or
the whole thing, the protesting,or, well, the whole israeli
offensive well, no, I mean likewhat we're seeing on our college
campuses with both right nowlike scott I, I haven't watched
too much of the news and, quitefrankly, I don't believe any of

(03:40):
the bullshit that they put onthere anyways.
But I agree, I think these kidsare just so, uh, they're,
they're, they don't know whatthey're.
Uh, I'm generalizing.
I'm sure some have someposition, but I'd say I'd bet
the vast majority don't, and Ibelieve they're being influenced
by, influenced by outsidesources and, um, it's, it's what

(04:06):
we do now.
Yeah, as we, we cause chaosyeah and uh infighting within
our country and uh, no onereally understands why.
So here we are again, and guesswhat?
Election year.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
So more bullshit.
I mean that's more bullshit.
That's the whole, that's thetopper of it all, man.
And just to kind of recap ofwhat actually happened.
So October 7th happens 1,200people killed, over 1,200 people
, israelis murdered, 250hostages.

(04:44):
We're not here to talk about anyof that stuff.
In fact, there's so many factsthat are probably not provided
about any of that.
What happened, what led up toit, what happened directly after
that?
But the fact of the matter isyou had protests that started
the day after, before there wasanything that happened.
So October 7th happens Israeldid nothing yet and protests had

(05:09):
already started in this countryless than 24 hours later.
And that should be an alarm topeople, especially those
protests, those protests.
There's some quotes that I wrotedown that they were saying at
those particular protests Gloryto our martyrs, globalizing

(05:30):
Antifata from the river to thesea, and resistance is justified
.
And you know, one could saywell, you know that means this
or whatever.
It's like, dude, I mean, let'sthink about this.
Less than 24 hours after peoplegot murdered and you're saying
this stuff, that's hate, andwhat you're doing is you're
trying to make other people hateand there's no getting around

(05:53):
that and the fact that peoplecan't admit that there's
politicians that can't admitthat to this day is kind of
fucking disgusting, to be quitehonest.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
I just think it's all manufactured.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
It is manufactured, manufactured, but people are
dying because of it, though I Iknow it's crap, but if you go
back to the whole thing, I thinkthe whole thing's.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
When hamas went over the border I think, that's
bullshit.
And I mean look who are wekidding?
One of the most fortifiedborders in the world.
Some donkeys fly across theborder and start mass murdering
people.
You can't take a shit on theother side without the Israelis
know what's going on.
You're telling me all theseuntrained donkeys are all of a

(06:37):
sudden infiltrating Israel onmakeshift freaking.
That's bullshit.
The whole thing is bullshit.
I don't believe any of it.
And I I knew what I knew.
This netanyahu was on the outswith the israelis 100, sure?
Um, this was his way of gettingback, uh, in the good graces of

(06:59):
the israeli people.
So well, regardless of whathappened, but okay, so hang on,
so, so.
So that's my, that's my opinion.
Who?
knows who knows what's real,what's not.
I'm just saying.
It just all seems to add up tome.
I'm one of those people whohave always said if I had to
fight against terrorism, my viewis, you got to kill the

(07:22):
terrorists and their family, Idon't fuck around, so I've got
no issue if it's real.
No, I'm just saying, if it'sreal, guess what?
I don't have a problem with it,because you have to create the
terrorists.
Don't care about themselves,right, they're going to.
They feel like they'rejustified in what they're doing

(07:45):
and they're going to die.
Right, but they definitely careabout their families.
So you make a few examples andthat's basically what Israel is
doing.
In terms of the protests, thosepeople that are protesting are
influenced.
They don't understand what goeson in day-to-day lives of on
both sides.
Right, they've.

(08:06):
They've never been there, shit,I've never.
I've never been there.
You guys may never have beenthere I, I don't know but I know
at one time and multiple timesover history, they have lived in
peace, um, but anyways.
So I know I'm going off indifferent things.
I just say the whole thing isbullshit.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
That's kind of here and I don't know what's bullshit
and what's not bullshit withwhat actually happened there.
But I know what's not bullshitis protests are happening here.
It's anti-American protests andit's driving hatred and people
are getting hurt.
That's a fact.
That's happening here.
Rather, regardless of howanyone feels about what actually

(08:43):
happened October 7th untilright now, to this day, our
American flag has been tore downand multiple campuses put up
with a foreign flag, which, bythe way, is probably one of the
most disgusting things and showof the First Amendment.
If that's what you're going todisplay, that is probably the

(09:04):
most anti-American thing youcould do and you claim that as a
first amendment thing.
You can go suck my balls,because a lot of people died for
that.
I mean that a lot.
There's a lot of blood thatpaid for that flag to be up on
those flagpoles.
That's a fact.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Who's that's happening?
Who's letting that happen?

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Exactly, it doesn't matter.
I mean well, it does.
But what I'm saying is it'sfact that that's happening in
our country.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
You can't let that happen.
No, that's that's that's,that's insane.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
It's all on the universities and it's all
private property and they don'treally care.
The universities themselvesthey don't give a shit, you know
, don't really care.
The universities themselvesthey don't give a shit, you know
.
So it's crazy.
All of these encampments arebuilt up on the universities and
the police have no jurisdiction, supposedly to go in there
unless they're invited to comein.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
But all right, let me give you an example.
If my one of my kids was goingto a school where they're
allowing that bullshit, I would.
I would communicate to theschool that I'm pulling my kids
out, right, yeah, fuck off, ofcourse, yeah, right, and guess
what People need to do that andguess what they're ship.
They are a business, after all.
Oh, so that would change yourtune, real darn quick.
I mean I don't, I don't know itwould, because uh they need

(10:19):
students, they need, they needtuition.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, but when you look at the endowments that go
into these big universities,that are given to them by a lot
of very well-to-do people, Ithink the tuition that's paid is
a small dent, I think tuitionis only 10% of what Harvard has
in their coffers.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Everything else is a 90% endowment.
At Harvard and a lot of schoolsare like that.
Harvard and a lot of schoolsare like that.
The tuition means a tuition isbasically getting students there
as a method to get these stupidass messages that they're
putting out in the universitiesand that's already bought and
paid for.
You know a tuition is.
In my opinion, with the amountof money some of these colleges

(11:00):
have, the tuition doesn't theycould do without it.
They could absolutely leteveryone go there for free that
wanted to go there If theywanted to, you know they could
do that.
They can afford that.
We'll never know how much is intheir cofers at the end of the
day because it's hundreds ofmillions of dollars.
You know the students never seethat it goes into.
You know whatever they saytheir education is, but bottom

(11:21):
line is they're making moneybecause they're selling
influence.
That's what they do.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
They're selling influence and it's been that for
, however, I mean decades,probably centuries, when you
look at, like some of theuniversities that were in Europe
.
You know, two centuries ago,three centuries ago, but I mean
the whole thing.
You know, we have a pretty goodclip to play.
Can you play?

(11:48):
So you'll have to close out atOBS and then play flag one.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
City College police removed a Palestinian flag that
was hanging from the flagpole onthe main campus and an American
flag was once again raised onthat flagpole.
The deputy commissioner of theNYPD posted this video on social
media with a caption Anincredible scene and proud
moment as we have assisted CityCollege in restoring order on

(12:17):
campus, culminating in raisingold glory once again on their
campus flagpole.

Speaker 5 (12:24):
All shoved to the ground.
They were just put up thismorning after the encampment.
And then I want to show youthis flagpole.
You can see there's a groupsurrounding the flagpole.
They are trying to put on anAmerican flag after it was torn
down by protesters earlier thisafternoon.
Let's take a look at this video.
This is video we took around1.45 of protesters surrounding
this flagpole and replacing theAmerican flag with the
Palestinian flag.

(12:45):
They then formed a human chainblocking media out of the area,
shoving us and blocking ourcameras with signs.
Then Interim Chancellor LeeRoberts came out with Chapel
Hill police behind him as theywent to put back the American
flag, and that is when thingsreally escalated.
Protesters started throwingwater bottles and items at
police while police shoved themback.
Now we spoke with a couple ofprotesters before things

(13:06):
escalated and this is what theytold us about why they were out
here and their goals.

Speaker 6 (13:12):
We will not back down .
We will not be.
We will keep going and keepfighting until our demands are
met, and our demands are fordivestment from the state of
Israel, a boycott of Israeliproducts and full financial
transparency.
And this strong showing of thesupport shows how powerful our
movement is and that they can'tsuppress us, they can't
intimidate us and they cannotstop us.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
Now again, as you can see, things are a lot quieter.
Classes, though, have beencanceled.
For the rest of the day,However, I did see police
gathering, some riot gear, somemasks and some shields, as if
they're anticipating things tocontinue or to get chaotic again
.
We'll bring you the very latestright here on CBS 17.
Ivan Chapel Hill, Haley Fixler.
Cbs 17 News.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
Yeah, so now there is a good story it's going to.
I'll have Minx play here onesecond.
It's the follow-up to this, butthat's.
there's a lot of campuses thathappened on yeah and you know I
I get upset if someone burnsamerican flags.
But I understand protest, Iunderstand that people are

(14:15):
trying to express themselves.
I don't like that, but I I'mtelling you what bringing a flag
down and putting a foreign flagup, that's different.
Yep, that is crossing a linethat these people should be in
fucking prison for doing that.
That right, there is treason,that's 100% treason, and I don't

(14:40):
know how they cannot line thatup with treason because it is.
I don't know how they cannotline that up with treason
because it is.
And like I am floored thatthere's not more people visibly
agitated about this, becausethat is just pissing on everyone
that died for that flag and itreally sucks.
But I mean what?

(15:02):
What comments do you have,scott?
I mean you, you personally knowmany people that have died for
that flag and you know youfought for that flag and like
that.
That's just so disgusting tosee this that our youth are
being taught and influenced todo this.
It's crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Yeah, I'm agreeing with you, I don't like seeing it
burnt.
I understand, you know, part ofthe freedom of speech, the
whole thing.
I don't really agree with it.
But the pulling it down andthen putting a foreign flag up
just bugs the piss out of me.
I thought it was really cool tosee the New York PD take that
down, put the US flag back up.

(15:41):
But what was pretty interestingwas to see Mayor Adams in New
York, who's, you know, ahardcore Democrat and you know
sanctuary city and all this kindof bullshit, and he really, you
know, showed some muscle thereand you could see the disgust in
the statement that he made too,and that made me feel really

(16:01):
good to see something like that.
But you know, I just, you know,once things, the flag stuff
starts happening, it's just kindof like you know kind of view
that as a violent action in away, and it should be met with
violent action as well, you knowit's just you know, like one of
them fuck around and find outkind of type things.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
I feel, I feel the same way, you know, and, like
you just mentioned, um, you know, stop running flag, burning
flag, all bad things, but I meanI think we all get that.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
That's certain.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
The military it's like you know it's, you know
that you're expressed, butrunning a foreign flag up, a
foreign flag that representshaters that have killed us
before, like what the fuck man.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
Well, the amount of hate that's associated with that
flag is just, I mean you goback over the years, it's you
know, if you look at, that was asnippet, but the crowd and that
leaf eater, as you said, whowas speaking, I mean that
represents the weakest part ofour society.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, but what it does is like when you have the
world seeing that, oh, itemboldens no question victory,
but it's.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
It doesn't surprise me with those type of people,
the blue hairs, the red hairs,the freaking weird shit, you
know.
But, by the way, I told you, uh, one of the times I was on here
, like you know, I was in italylast year.
I'm driving by this buildingand I see this giant gay flag on
a building that covers up halfthe building, and I look, I

(17:34):
asked the driver where.
What building is that?
Oh, that's us embassy.
The gay flag was larger thanthe united states flag.
So this is this administration.
They perpetuate this kind ofnonsense, they embolden DEI.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
And these guys feel like they can do this shit and
there's no recourse.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
And there is none.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
Right, that's my point, so they can do it.
There's none.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
In fact, if you say something, you're probably going
to be the one that's offended,or that something happens.
Well, it's the administration.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
I mean really.
I mean, if there was a, ifTrump was president, the justice
system would be reacting awhole lot different to things
that have happened at the border, things that are happening like
here at all these collegecampuses.
This administration doesn'tcare.
Because this administration isnothing but to divide the people

(18:31):
, cause chaos and then getreelected and cause more of that
.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
It pains me to say this, but I would say that Bill
Clinton's administrationwouldn't have let that happen
either.
No, I agree, it's a differentworld now.
He's a corrupt.
That happen either no.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I agree yeah.
I mean it's a different world.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
He's a corrupt motherfucker.
Whatever People can saywhatever, but he wouldn't allow
that to happen.
No, no.
Well, with that said, thoughmakes, can you play the it's
called follow up UNC.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Oh, this is the good one.

Speaker 7 (19:06):
I just saw something on Twitter that I wanted to
share with you.
This is a thread by GuillermoEstrada, who's a student at the
University of North Carolina atChapel Hill.
The thread reads Today was asad yet empowering day at Chapel
Hill.
When I walked to class, I saw aPalestinian flag raised on our
quad flagpole and wasimmediately upset at the act

(19:27):
that these quote-unquoteprotesters had made.
I cannot say I am fullyeducated on the Israel-Palestine
conflict, but it upset me thatmy country's flag was
disrespected in order toadvocate for another.
Shortly after, ChancellorRoberts came with police
officers, to hang the flag onceagain, they were met with
profanity, middle fingers,thrown bottles, rocks and water.

(19:48):
When the flag was raised onceagain, the Greek community began
singing the national anthem.
As the Chancellor left, thequad erupted into chaos as
protesters began removing theflag once again, preparing to
destroy it.
My fraternity brother andothers ran over to hold it up in
order for it to not touch theground.
People began throwing waterbottles at us, rocks, sticks,

(20:09):
calling us profane names.
We stood for an hour defendingthe flag so many fight to
protect.
My parents started a new lifein the United States, a country
that has helped them flourishand raise two kids.
I grew up in a militarycommunity and saw firsthand the
sacrifices they make.
I will not stand for thedisrespect these quote-unquote
protesters cause for the sake ofanother country.

(20:31):
My last day on campus will bememorable in knowing that my
fraternity brothers and othersfought to keep the flag up, but
it will also be memorable inknowing that so many yearn to
disrespect it.
In response to the thread, Stevewrites we still have patriotic
youth out there.
This man is a hero, To whichGuillermo responds thank you for
your kind words.

(20:51):
However, I cannot considerourselves heroes, as all we did
is protect a symbol of thecommitment and sacrifice others
have made to protect ourfreedoms.
They are the true heroes.
Amen, Guillermo.
But heroes come in many formsand whether or not you're a hero
, you're definitely a patriot,and as long as we have folks
like you among us, this countrymight just be okay after all.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
Yeah, so that was from a YouTube channel, ward
Carroll, guillermo Estrada.
I've actually tried to reachout to him to see if we can get
a call in at some point.
Um, that's, that's kind of likethe light at the end of the
tunnel, though you know it thatthat's awesome.
Um, I'll bet you he's catchinga lot of hell, though.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I don't.
I think there's more of themthan not.
They're just not as loud.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
That's the problem.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I know, but that's always been the case.
Right, that's always been thecase.
They stepped up when theyneeded to.
Right, when it started gettingsilly, they stepped up.
Yeah, they did.
And again you look at thatcrowd and I was talking about
the red hairs and the blue hairs.
What's with all the fuckingmasks?

Speaker 1 (22:01):
They think they can't get identified.
Is that?

Speaker 3 (22:03):
what it is.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Yeah, fucking masks.
Uh, they, they think they can'tget identified.
Is that what it is?
I mean, or you know?

Speaker 3 (22:08):
I'm here to tell them these are, these are all the
fucking uh, the vaccine, thevaccine people.
It's the same people?
No, it's not that.
Yeah, some of the facialrecognition, some of them have
said that oh, you know that wedon't want to get covid and
stuff like that but but you know, it's obvious that they don't
want to be no, I, I know that,but I'm saying they were the
same ones that got all theboosters and all the shit.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
I'm just saying that means they're going to die
anyways.

Speaker 3 (22:27):
They probably don't want their parents to see them.
Their brains aren't workingright.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
But who can't tell?

Speaker 2 (22:35):
I could tell if my kid was running around like this
, I mean like these.
It's funny because I saw I'vegot a good friend out there and
one of the guys they grabbedlooked just like him and I had
to look at the clip again to seeit wasn't him, but you know, I
mean, it was a weird thing.

Speaker 3 (22:51):
I'm just thinking like when we were kids.
If that was happening, I thinkwe'd be, brawling.
Your parents would beat yourass.
Well, I think we'd be brawling.
I don't think we'd let thatshit happen.
I agree, I don, we'd bebrawling.
I think I don't think we'd letthat shit happen.
I agree, I don't think we'd bestanding there, and they know it
would be really bad.
Yeah, there's zero chance yeah,I don't see.
I don't see stuff like thathappening and we'd end it real

(23:14):
quick yeah, man, I mean, andthat's, that's sometimes we.

Speaker 1 (23:19):
We grew up in a different era I know, we grew up
in a the cold war era as kidswhere nationalism was a thing
and that was that would.
I mean we were brainwashed withthat.
I, I mean, I don't mind that,but uh yeah, we were brainwashed
into nationalism to.
You know, protect that flag inour country at all costs we just
wouldn't let it happen, wewouldn't let their brainwashed

(23:41):
in something a complete oppositeof what nationalism is, and
that and that's the issue.
They have people that hate ourcountry, and you know what.
We've talked about it already.
These kids don't even know whatthey're protesting and it's
like man.
For instance, intifada what,okay, asshole, you're out there

(24:05):
saying preaching intifada,intifada.
What does intifada mean, tellme?
I wish some of these reporterswould ask them that, because if
they can explain what intifadameans, they'd realize that
they're a big dumb ass forshouting that out.
You know what I mean, and it'sjust like what the hell are you
doing?

Speaker 3 (24:21):
I don't even know what it means To be honest.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Lucky for you, I have the definition right here
Intifada.
Where's it at?

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Sounds like some kind of food.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well, no, so intifada .
It is the Arabic word.
Intifada translate to uprisingor shaking off.
It has been used to describeperiods of intense Palestinian
protests against Israel, mainlyin the form of violent terrorism
.
The first intifada from 1987 to1990 and the second Intifada
from 2000 to 2005.

(24:52):
The main thing is violentterrorism.
That is what Intifada is, andwhen they start saying Intifada,
intifada, they have no ideawhat they're fucking calling for
.
And I hope they don't find out,but maybe they will, I don't
know.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
You kind of wish they , because now there's starting
to be a lot of these YouTubethings coming out from some of
the survivors of the attack andthings like that Some of the
hostages people that are heldhostage and they talk about the
brutalities of what happened tothem, and stuff like that.
Some of the hostages peoplethat are held hostage and they
talk about the brutalities ofwhat happened to them, and stuff
like that.
And that's the kind of stuffthey should be blasting in there
on these loudspeakers so thatthese people have to listen to

(25:35):
what they're protesting againstyou don't hear any of that,
though.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
No, you don't.
I mean, I haven't seen a darnthing about any of that.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Well, I've seen things on Instagram and stuff
like that advertising it, you'regoing to dig for it.
But the thing about it is is, ina way, I don't want to listen
to it and look at it, because inthe business, before you do,
like you know, site exploitationand some of that stuff, you
know you just can't forget whatyou see or what you hear, and I
just you know I don't want to godown that path or what you hear

(26:03):
and I just, you know, don'twant to go down that path.
I believe it's been brutalenough and I'll stay with that,
you know.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Did you look at that?
Did you see that video Jed senttoday?

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Yeah, you commented on it.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, so you know, our friend Jed sent a video.
I mean, it was somewhere inAfrica or Haiti, I'm not sure
which?

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Yeah, it might have been Haiti it might have been
Haiti.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
It might have been Haiti.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Could have been the barbecue guy.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yep, I mean, oh my God.
Yeah, I mean they stripped thisguy naked in front of everybody
.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Those guys don't play .

Speaker 1 (26:31):
No, dumped some kind of stuff off.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
We need to bring them over to get these.
No, we don't want them.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Well, there's enough of them here already.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
They should come over , that's true.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Look, look, man.
I mean the difference that usedto be, and I feel like we're
still there.
We just got to make sure wemaintain it.
The difference that Americanshave that's better, in my

(27:03):
opinion, from a lot of theseplaces in the world is we value
life.
Now, some of our politiciansmight, some of our rich elites
might.
They don't really give a fuck,but americans in general value
life.
Um other cultures they don'tnot at all not one bit.
And these little assholes thatare out there protesting um,
like that leaf eater that wasjust on, he has no idea what

(27:24):
he's talking about.
He has no idea the evil thatsome of these cultures I'm not
saying every culture is bad, butI'm saying within some cultures
there is some bad shit that haszero value for life.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
And he has no idea what he's talking about.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, the thing about it is is you know you, you take
a lot of these people that are.
You know different they're.
You know different they're.
You know LGBTQ community andthis and that and the other
thing, and if you throw theminto one of the environments,
you know they're dead.
They will be stoned.

(27:59):
But they don't get that youknow no.
Yeah, they don't understandthat.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I mean like man.
It's like we learn nothingabout the extremism from ISIS.
It's like the world learnednothing from them yeah.
Because what was happening to?
You know the LGBT, gay pluscommunity, whatever it's called
now?
They were getting thrown offbuildings.
Yeah, they were put in cages,caught on fire, like you name it

(28:27):
.
That happened and that happensstill today.
It's just there's no socialmedia there to catch it.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Well, everybody's memory is short, I mean when you
think about it, since all ofthis uprising has happened in
the last you know, two weeksthat it's really been intense.
What's going on at the border?

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Nothing, because all the focus has shifted to this,
you know, and everybody forgetsabout those things.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
So, everybody's got, you know, short memories when it
comes to tragedy throughout theworld.
You know and you know.
You look at 9-1-1 and whathappened there was horrible.
But I saw something on anotherpodcast that talked about how it
one-ups each time to whereinitially there was an attack at

(29:12):
the embassies and consulatesaround the world, and then you
had the first World Trade Centerbombing that wasn't successful,
and then you had 9-1-1.
And what's coming next is goingto be worse than that.
And you see these things thathappen just recently in Russia,
where they just slaughtered abunch of people at a consulate,
the Palestinians, all of thosepeople that were just out there

(29:32):
at a consulate 1,200 people.
Yeah, at a consulate just havinga good time, and some of those
people are being held hostagestill.
But all of that is forgottenstuff.
Now it's water under the bridgebecause you just go on to the
next event.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
That's in the press and you forget about it.
Yep, and it's a purposeful newscycle of two weeks, yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Well, this kind of goes back to what I was saying
before, Like there's just moreto the story.
This stuff just keeps onhappening.
Yeah, so I mean that's thebigger picture.
It's not specific to just theprotests.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
I'm just saying here's the thing that I know.
Scott knows exactly where I'mcoming from this but a lot of
people may not know this.
You know, we know what we knowbecause we see what we think is
right or wrong on social media.
Do you know what the percentageof the world is that doesn't

(30:33):
have?
They're not allowed to havephones with cameras.
There's very large swaths andthere's a reason why Because
there's some bad shit going onin those places and they don't
want to.
You know, like parts whateverthat part is in Africa that,
what's that?
The AQ runoff there.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
AQIM.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
No, not AQIM.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
Boko Haram.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Boko Haram and then the other one that's in
Mogadishu, oh yeah, I can'tremember, but anyways, there's
large sections of Africa.
You're not allowed to even havea phone with a camera, nothing,
and the whole like we're not.
We don't see that stuff and thebad shit that happens to people
.
And I'm telling you it exists,dude.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Like in Afghanistan when I was there, the Taliban is
one thing, but when it's AQ,taliban, so it's basically
Taliban supporting AQ, becausefor the most part, a lot of the
Taliban were just farmers.
They were just doing theirthing, they had the fight or
whatever, but then you had thehardcore guys that supported AQ.

(31:47):
Then you had AQ.
And when you go into thoseareas where there hadn't been
American presence forever, ormaybe even never, people weren't
allowed to have phones.
If you got caught with a phoneunless you were leadership, you
were.
You know something happened toyou.
You know, hands chopped off,head chopped off, whatever.
People don't know of that sideof the world because they don't

(32:08):
see it on social media.
You know what I mean.
And it exists.
That evil exists, man, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
A lot of them can't afford that shit either.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
No, no, they can't.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
You know it's.

Speaker 1 (32:19):
I mean it.
I mean we don't even know whathappens in North Korea.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
I mean we don't even know what happens in North Korea
.
Do we, somebody does?
They're just not telling us.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
I mean, there's a reason why they don't allow
their people to communicate withthe outside, and it's because,
oh, we don't know.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
We don't know China, china's the same way.
We have some ins and outs ofChina and some, you know, we
know a little bit.
But there's China is so big andsome of those little villages,
who the fuck knows what's goingon there, man, you know?
And there's places like thatall over the world where there
is a reason why they don't havephones and why things don't come
out of there.
You know.

(32:59):
But uh, you know, these littleassholes don't realize that,
they don't realize that there isactually evil people out there.
But you know what You're goingto protest on behalf of them.
Thanks, fuckface.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, there's horrible people out there,
that's for sure.
They just don't get it.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
No, no, and we talked about this before.
They don't even know what thefuck it is they're protesting
for and I've got a couple ofvideos for that.
Um, I think it's no idea.
No idea.
Number one or two?
One do two.
One for, yeah, number one,number one, no more here we go,
we're protesting.

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Thank you, we're protesting we're angry, we're
not going to take it anymore.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
There's just people to protest for protest's sake
and it's like what the fuck areyou doing, man?
And then the next one is myfavorite Three or 21?
21.
Dude, 21.
This one's my favorite.

Speaker 8 (34:05):
Oh shit, a new disturbing video showing, out of
control, ucla students takingturns beating a pinata with an
image of israeli prime ministernetanyahu.
But do these hamas sympathizingstudents really know what
they're marching for?

Speaker 2 (34:18):
when hamas invaded israel on the 7th of october?
What was your initial reactionto them?

Speaker 6 (34:23):
I don't't think they did the day.
I think so Honestly.
I think I need to be a bit moreclued up on everything that's
going on, so I feel like I'm notreally qualified to answer that
too well.
I mean, I'm not sure if I'veseen anything that shows that
that's actually happened oractually correct.
How can you be sick?
All right, Jessica.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
What happened there've?
Had no idea, oh, I don't know.
It's like, come on, man, not asurprise.
You understand that, the hatred, that would be like me going
and protest or anybodyprotesting against black people
and call them the n-word, likethat's the same thing, that
that's what Jewish people feelright now.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
They were just there for the $20, $25 gift card
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
It's.
It's a social event.
Yeah, oh dude, it's, it's, it'sridiculous.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Oh my gosh, and you know so.
I found a couple of groups thatactually um, there's a lot more
research to be done on this.
I know someone's doing research.
I only scraped the bottom ofthe barrel on this but there's a
place called see.
There's a couple sites hereyeah, crowds on Demand,
backstage Influenceable LLC.

(35:38):
And then they directly contactinfluencers to pay them money.
There are so many otherorganizations.
There are activistorganizations that hire actors,
that hire actors.
You know what I mean For forshit like this and like people.
The media is not covering thisenough.
They need to like people needto know that they're getting

(36:00):
bamboozled into thinking shitlike this and no one's covering
it.
And somebody, just like someonein big mainstream media, needs
to go after this and expose allthese assholes for doing this,
making money off this shit,getting people to and you know
what they're using the economythey're using how our poor
economy again, like that'sprobably one of the reasons why

(36:23):
they they're making a pooreconomy for people is so you can
influence them.
To do shit like they're gettingpeople that are poor, that have
no other fucking form of money,but to go protest for something
they don't even know whatthey're protesting about I think
a lot of these people are wellto do and uh, they're just
idiots, and they're out thereprotesting but.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
But going back to what you're saying about
organized protesting, again,this justice system that we have
is not going to go after people.
I mean there's a way to figureout who's who in the zoo and
remove those people from thespace and probably charge them
with sedition or something likethat.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
How many people from G6 got arrested?
I know, that's what I mean.
You know like they found them.
Oh yeah, they're going afterthem.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
They were going after them, but they, they don't give
a shit about stuff like thisand they very well.
Should you know what's, what'sthe difference?
It's a good question.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I think there's a big difference and no, I'm saying
there's a huge difference.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
But no, no, you're saying this is worse.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
I'm saying this is way worse yeah, that's.
That's because a lot of thepeople that they're going after
for j6.
We're going to protest.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
I agree, I'm just like yeah, I agree I just think
it's I think it's whack, butguess what republicans are weak.
This is the left.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Do you know what you just did?
You just said a word thatyou're not allowed to say in
this room, all right.
Well, guess what?
You get kicked in the nutslater, dude.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Well, I'm saying it because I'm saying it because
all right, whatever Certainpeople can do whatever they want
with no recourse.
All right, whatever Certainpeople can do whatever they want
with no recourse, and andothers don't have to worry about
shit, because the other side isweak as fuck and they don't do
anything, nope.
And so why not?

(38:17):
Well, I mean the, the get awaywith it whatever you want.
The thing is, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
Take it, dude, there's, there's, like it
doesn't matter, dude.
I think that we're in a hugecrossroad.
Not a crossroad.
It might even be a greatopportunity.
And I'm not talking a monetaryopportunity.
I'm talking about anopportunity to change the course
of what's going on, and it'sfor things like this podcast

(38:44):
we're sitting around right now.
Right now, we're in a timewhere anybody can turn their
phone on and put a message out.
The problem that exists ispeople are trained and
conditioned to like to see badshit.
That's how we are, as humansbad to like to see bad shit.

(39:07):
That's how we are, as humans,like.
If there's if, if you, if youwant to, if it's between puppies
and rainbows or someone gettingtheir head chopped off, what
are you going to watch?
You're going to watch someonegetting their head chopped off.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
No, I'm going to watch puppies and rainbows.

Speaker 1 (39:18):
But I mean, like the majority of people are going to
be and they might look away.
But yeah, they might look away.
But yeah, there's thatcuriosity is going to be there.
There's the curiosity.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I mean, you know, and my experience is different
because I've been on the otherside.
Right and I don't really careto see that again.
You know, I just I'm happy tosee, you know, dogs doing stupid
shit on social media because itputs a smile on my face where
other stuff just causes me tostart having anxiety and

(39:46):
different things going on in myhead and it's just like you know
but you're part of the 1% that.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
I've seen it in real life.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
What's the?
Uh?
I think it's.
I think it's Don Henley uh,evening use.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I don't even you don't?

Speaker 3 (39:59):
you don't want to talk about it, oh, all right.
Well, I'm not going to startsinging, but that's basically
the premise of the song.
I'm not even going to try it,but anyone who knows Don Henley,
Don Henley, hey Minx can youlook this up?

Speaker 1 (40:13):
You are the fact checker.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
You can play it right now.
Oh man, this goes back.
I like it.
It's like evening news, or Ithink that.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Yep, it just popped up, but but what I was saying
before we play this is um, we,we have a good opportunity.
It's just people got to figureout how to crack the nut on it.
Man, like get people to starttalking about this stuff and not
be afraid around a table likethis, or or instead of, you know
, posting their big ass onfucking tiktok.
Why don't you talk about somecool shit and then show your big
ass?
No one you know I mean.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Well, there's a few people that do, and I think
we're getting more of that.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
There needs to be a mass amount of more.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
I think regular news is just dying.
It's not real anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
And people know that Scripted People know that
Scripted.

Speaker 3 (41:04):
Yeah, so I mean this is just my opinion.
Like shows like this arebecoming more popular because
you're getting real opinionwithout any influence whatsoever
, yep, and I mean this is theway to be honest.
This is kind of how I get mynews, like I have a handful of

(41:24):
shows.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
I listen to.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
I'm the same way now and and um and and shows that
generally give you differentperspectives and have a diverse
group of uh uh guests right soyou're not getting the same shit
fed you, you know over and overagain, and then you can make
your opinion from from there,versus someone telling you how
to think.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
Right, that's the thing.
Yep, that's 100% it, man.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
But gee, our society is weak dog.
We live in a society of fuckinglemmings, bro.
They want to be told what to do.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
They are weak.
I'm going to say somethingthat's offensive to everybody in
this room.
That's our fault.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Well, it's our responsibility to at the very
least get our kids straight.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
And it's our fault.
I'm going to defend.
I'm not going to defend you,sorry.
I am going to defend Scott andKerry because what was going on
for 21 years?
We were all blindsided andsidetracked by war, which is the
most of the country was, and wehad a blind eye.

(42:36):
Our back turned to what wasreally happening here and now we
see where we're at and it'sbecause it's our fault.
We allowed this to happen, weallowed our society to do this,
because we were sidetracked withwar and you know, shame on the
people that put us through that,but ultimately it's our I mean

(42:57):
it's our fault.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
And people are asleep at the wheel.
Yeah, so while you guys are outthere doing real work, real
shit, everyone else was justcomfortable and asleep at the
wheel.
Yeah, so, while you guys areout there doing real work, real
shit, yeah, um, everyone elsewas just comfortable and asleep
at the wheel.
But I do feel like people arewaking up.
Oh, I do too.
I mean just look at loudoncounty, for example.
Right, we're almost there,we're almost a red man.

(43:18):
I mean it's seriously like it,it went.
I moved here because I wasliving in Montgomery County,
maryland, which turned into acomplete shit show.
I had friends that were copsand like man, you got to get out
of here.
I didn't know what was going on.
They're telling me like you gotto get the fuck out of here,
we're getting out of here.

(43:38):
And then I came here.
It was awesome for a while andthen slowly the cockroaches came
in and started taking over andthen finally people started
waking up.
But I think that's happeningeverywhere, and this protesting
shit, for example, and all theother bullshit that we've been
dealing with.
I think it's swinging thependulum the other way and it

(44:02):
doesn't have to swing too far.
It only has to swing a littlebit and that's enough.
I think it'll be enough.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
If it were, I would agree.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
That's the optimistic side of me.

Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, I mean, I would agree if one this wasn't an
election cycle, and I think, forthat reason alone, that these
protests are going tometastasize into something that
we've never even seen before,and I think this is the start of
it this summer, and it is goingto be rough, all right call

(44:34):
that thought for a moment.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
These people are not fans of biden, and you saw
chants so what does that mean?
Do they not vote at all?
Do they vote for Kennedy?
Do they vote for Trump, or theydon't vote at all?

Speaker 2 (44:53):
I would guess they're not voting at all.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
Okay, I would say, just based on the demographic
that I see out there, that'sprobably a good thing.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
The leaf eaters, because you know generally where
they're voting, right so ifthey're not voting, but then
again, does it matter, I think.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
One good thing, though, is you see all the
campus protests and stuff likethat, and all of the news cycles
focus around that, but none ofthe news cycles really take a
step or two back and see whatthe larger demographic of
America really thinks about thatstuff.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
That's right, Like why?
Why didn't the?

Speaker 3 (45:34):
news play this, I agree.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Like that Guillermo thing, man, I guess because it
goes no it it.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
It goes back to what you were saying.
I mean Because it goes back towhat you were saying.
Or you were saying one of youguys were saying because that
doesn't sell.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
No, it doesn't.
But you know, when I saymetastasize what is going to
happen, I usually bet my lefttesticle on this.
But I'm not going to do thatjust yet.
To do that just yet, someone'sgoing to die and it's going to

(46:08):
be a protest and it's going tobe at the hands of law
enforcement, and you know that'sgoing to happen.
And it's going to happenbecause someone's going to force
that to happen, and then it'sgoing to happen again, and then
we're going to be sideways, andthat's just how this is going to
happen.
I mean, it's this is theirplaybook, this is how they're
going to fuck the entireelection section.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
Who does that negatively affect?
Well, there's a person inoffice.
Think about it.
I don't think so, it I'm no, itit has to.
Who?

Speaker 1 (46:41):
are they going to blame in Trump's?

Speaker 3 (46:42):
fighting for his life .
You can't blame him.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
Yeah, but in a normal election you're correct.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Listen, forget about the normal election shit.
There's not going to be anormal election ever again,
probably.
We don't know what the fuck'sgoing on out there, all right.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
So let me ask you this, minx, will you pull up
whatever the treaty that's goingto be signed, I think May 27th,
with the WHO?
I can't remember what it'scalled.
I'm pretty sure you'll find it.
Just type in treaty May 27th,who treaty Where's it at here?

(47:19):
The pandemic agreement there wego.
Okay, so now there's lots ofinformation on this.
You have to pull up the wholething.
There's a lot of scholars andstuff talking about this.
We're signing it.
I mean, biden's pretty muchalready agreed and what's going
to happen is it gives the WHOand the handful of people that
are unelected carte blanche overevents that happen in other

(47:43):
countries and other nations andthey can basically control
things that happen.
And when you start bringing inunrest through protests and then
, like I said, a law enforcementofficer kills or allegedly
kills a protest or whatever, andthings start to roll downhill

(48:04):
from that, and then you havesomething by these assholes that
can completely affecteverything, depending on how the
pendulum's rolling, like yousaid, how that pendulum's
flowing, and and people don'tthey don't even know to look at
this yet, because, even thoughit's been going for the last two
years now, this treaty is goingto be signed.
No one even knows about it, andit's crazy, man.

(48:27):
And and the fact that someoneelse can control our country
after that treaty sign is isnuts.
It's just fucking batshit crazy.
Um, but look into it, man, likethat's a for real thing.
That's happening.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I again, I like that's a for real thing, that's
happening.
I again, I.
I believe that's why trump isso popular.
Oh, he would never let thathappen.
No, the problem is, will we geta fair election, a real
election?
We just don't know yeah, yepthat's the issue.
That's and look at, look at,look at all the.
I mean he's more popular nowthan ever, right?

(49:04):
So if he doesn't win thiselection, I mean we all have to
step back and wonder what thefuck's up.
I mean, he's got everyone thatwas on the fence before, people
who were unsure and the ones whovoted for him prior are even
more emphatic about voting forhim this time, right.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
Well, there's so many things that have happened
because you figure the economy'stanked, the border has tanked
and this has happened, inflationand all these types of things.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
It's chaos and it's affected everybody.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
But then you look at how Trump is being prosecuted
all of a sudden multiple timesfor multiple things, back to
back to back, and everybody seesthat a lot of that stuff is BS
and everybody sees that if itcan happen to him, it can happen
to me.
It will.
And he's fighting through allof that and it has, and he's

(50:01):
fighting through all of that,and I think that's why so many
people have moved towards theTrump side is because of that.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
I think in particular African Americans and I'll tell
you in general, Hispanic people, who are generally conservative
anyways and who arehard-working, generally very
good family.
Yes, people, um, and just, youknow, I don't, I like so unless

(50:35):
they're paid I, I just, I justthink there's just so much
bullshit behind the scenes wejust don thoughts about, but we
just don't know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
I mean, even look at the border, with the amount of
people that have come across,have gone to all these different
places in the United States.
They're given cell phones,they're given money, they're on
free medical, they're on this orthat, the other thing.
That's all being given to themby the US government.
And then you look at all of ourcitizens that have been here,
yes, since they were born and,and they're in shit.

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They're, they don't getanything, even though they're
living in poverty, even thoughthey've got mental health crises
.
How?
about all the veterans and theand I was getting to the
veterans.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Next, the va is a complete fucking show.
Yep so um.
And meanwhile these people, wegot Chinese motherfuckers coming
across the border getting likestand the fuck by.
It's a it's a show, yeah, um,but that's fine.
I don't see anyone protestingon that shit.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
No, because we've got this new protest, that's taken
everybody's mind off of her.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Everything else like that, like this.
It's taken everybody's mind offof everything else.
I'm telling you, this thing isgoing to go on.
It's going to go on.
Something's going to make itcontinually go on and it'll be
an act of violence.
It was something and then, ifit doesn't go on, it's going to
stem to something else.
I'm telling you, man, peopleneed to expect we're in for a
fucking ride this summer, man,and it's a dangerous one.

(52:03):
It's a dangerous one, and thefact of the matter is, is you
got these assholes that arepulling the strings, that are
making this stuff happen?
It's like, man, I mean, I wish,I wish we were in the time of
Genghis Khan, cause I'll tellyou what those motherfuckers
wouldn't stand a chance.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
Do you think it's going to be where they're
burning down the cities andlighting shit on fire?

Speaker 1 (52:26):
that type of protesting I would not put it
past them.
Really, I think it's sounexpected their playbook.
Could we have ever imaginedwhat happened the last cycle?

Speaker 3 (52:35):
No, no, no, and we let it happen and we're still
trying to figure our way throughthat one.
I say all you got to do isshoot some motherfuckers and
then the rest of them willdisperse.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
But that's what that's it.
It kind of feels to me thatthat people are trying to push
the direction of that, and so areal good thing is we might have
talked about this before, but Idon't think Scott and I have.
If you watched a moviecontagion and then you think
back of what happened with COVIDand you look back when Cajun
contagion was made at, which wastwo or three years before, um,

(53:10):
it's like holy shit, that's,that's almost exactly Wow.
Um, and then you know theObama's made that, uh, that
movie recently, last year.
Um, basically about howeverything's going to go to shit
.
And then this movie, civil war,comes out.
Um, it's like I feel likepeople are trying to push us in
a direction for when people aregoing to be taking weapons and

(53:34):
going to the streets and thenthat's just going to make the
entire fucking world collapse.
Um, you know it, it sounds likea horrible conspiracy theory.
The problem is, I don't thinkit's in the realm of possible
that it could happen, and that'scrazy to me.
I never would have thought this20 years ago.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
When you push, a society, it's like what the fuck
?
When you just push people andpush people, and push people and
they feel like that's theironly choice, then yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
And we're being pushed that way.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
But I think they want that.
They want chaos, the blackcommunity has already been
pushed to that point.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
And they don't even talk about it.
Well, they won't talk about it.
You go to any inner city If youtalk to Josh Howard and you ask
him about life in the hood,they've been at war, their own
war.
People are dying.
They've been at war and it'sbecause those fuckheads put them
there, man.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
So it's really interesting.
We'll never have a leader thatstands up and says, hey, white
people, black people, hispanicpeople, asian people, uh, middle
eastern, wherever you're fromyou're, if you're an american,
you're an american.
We need to stand together andfight against all this crazy

(54:55):
shit.
We are, we are one.
They will never do that.
You know why?
Because they want chaos, yeah,and they and they want
infighting, and that's how theyhave control.
So no one's going to do it andit just it doesn't.
Every motherfucker, pardon me,goes up every election and says

(55:18):
oh, I'm going to unify, no,you're not.
No, no, you're not, you're not.
And we know you're not, you'renot and we know you're not.
True story every time.
And and they all say they allsay the same thing.
Oh, I'm gonna work with theother side, no fuck off?

Speaker 1 (55:33):
no, you're not no, you're not.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
No, you're not.
You're gonna make it worse thanit was.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
They do it every time what I can't go over was, you
know, with Biden.
The dude ran for election threedifferent times before this and
he was a liar.
Everyone knew him to be a liarall three times and all of a
sudden he's not a liar.
It's like what?

Speaker 3 (55:55):
No, no.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
He's been a liar his whole life.
He wasn't Trump, but I meanpeople that voted for.
I mean I know some people thatwill never vote for Trump and
they will only vote for Biden.
They're pretty sensible people,but they are 100% bot.
Biden's a good dude.

Speaker 3 (56:15):
Are they sensible?
Yeah, are they, and, by the way, I wouldn't be friends with
them.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
They're family.
Why?

Speaker 3 (56:23):
No, no, no, I don't have a choice.
No, I do.
I have family that I had.
I had family that was I had todisown.
Well, I'm not going to want to,I'm not going to do it.
You know what I can't.
I am not going to socializewith people who have no sense

(56:46):
and listen.
There's different ways to lookat this.
On the one hand, everyone has aright to have their own opinion
, but when you like, okay, let'stake us for example.
We can take a look at, say,trump, for example.
We can point out his negativeside Absolutely and be pragmatic
about the whole thing.
They, they're fucking hardcoreone way to me, they're, they're.

(57:11):
I don't want to associate withpeople like that if you can't
have a conversation and and likeand respect someone else's
point of view and give a fairfucking point of view right.
Yeah.
Not just a lopsided bullshitperspective.
Then I don't want to talk toyou, I don't want to socialize

(57:32):
with you.
I have life's too short, don'tneed it, don't want it, fuck off
.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Well, I've learned not to talk about politics
around our family.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
Well, I just disowned him.
Yeah, I can around our familywell, I just disowned them.

Speaker 1 (57:44):
Yeah, I can't do that .
I won't do that.
Well, I, I won't do thatbecause you know why and I I
respect your decision on that.
I'm just saying like I feellike that is what when I say
they, I don't know who they are,but it's somebody, it's some
group out there that's fuckingpulling the strings.
That's what they want you to do.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
I understand that, but my view is I say fuck them
but if they're so dumb that theyare manipulated like that, then
I I can't socialize withsomeone so ignorant I, I, I mean
, like I said I, I, that's myperspective.
Yeah, like uh man, I could tellyou so many stories, and you
and you you what the hell wasthat voice minks?

Speaker 1 (58:21):
You set it up Well you should make it like you say
like three, two, one, like witha sexy minks voice, not that
thing.
That guy sounds like a tool.
Well, that was our hour.
That was that hour went byquick pretty quick.
Yeah yeah.
That was a good conversationand, like this conversation has

(58:44):
to keep on going, man, I want todo well.
I mean, we got a lot of shitcoming up in the last next
couple weeks um I want to keepdoing these, though, like just
if we, if we don't get um, ifthere's no guests lined up or
something, just saying fuck it,let's just record, pull up the
news, watch some bullshit andpick it apart and point out how
the the media is just a bunch ofassholes trying to make all

(59:07):
this shit go south.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
You know what I want to talk about.
I want to talk about thepotential VP for Trump.
Yeah, I want to like.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
I hope it's Tulsi.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
I do too.
I think very highly of her forlots of reasons.
I do too.
I think very highly of her forlots of reasons, and even before
, even when she was a Dem, Ialways thought she spoke
sensibly to me.
That's just a stupid label,right.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
You know we could get her on the phone and it would
cost us $750 for 15 minutes.
First, off.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
She's smart as fuck.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
She served in the military.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
she's very well spoken I watched the the value
thing with her.
She was amazing, um, awesome.
She's hot, beautiful surfer.
She, she's too good looking tobe a damn.
Does gummies.
She's like a normal listensunny and loretta always I think
she, you know, she's like mostof us, right, like we're, not

(01:00:06):
like uh and our we're, we'rejust for common sense.
Yeah, like, right.
I mean I hate the labels, rightshe?

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
saw the dark side and was like fuck you.
Well, they're over the top yeah, they're over there.
She's not.
I'm not gonna be a part of that.
Yeah, fuck you.
And then he kicked her out ohno, they disparaged her in every
possible way.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
But, you know, I think she'd be an amazing
running mate and, quite frankly,whomever that is is probably
going to win the next eightyears.

Speaker 2 (01:00:37):
Well, that's the thing is, you know that person
has to be.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
The next president.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Right, but I mean, that's what you really need to
be looking at.
Is you know, the that nomin,that VP nominee, has to be
locked on, to take that next.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
And I think Tulsi's it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
I'd be willing to.
I, I, it's, I'm.
I'm really pleased to hear youguys say that, because I've said
this for a while and a lot ofpeople disagreed with me and I
think people are kind of comingaround to it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
I'll tell you what.
So if Tulsi was not on theticket with Trump and it was
someone else I would vote forRFK.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Well, it's not going to be Kristi Noem, now, that's
for sure.
No, she's killing, fuckingpuppies.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
She's kind of killed herself.
What the fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Yeah, what the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
I'm a dog lover man, I am too I have a really hard
time shooting a dog.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
I'll tell you, even if he's stupid, I'm not going to
shoot a dog.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
The only thing that changes my vote from RFK is if
Tulsi's on the ticket with Trump.
That changes my vote.
Hands down.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
If I thought RFK had a shot in hell, he'd get my vote
.
And so here's the interestingthing about us Everyone has
their idea, they hear ourperspectives, but the fact of
the matter is we're prettyfucking moderate.
Yes, I mean, we, we don't like,we are like, we're, we're,

(01:02:05):
we're, we're, we're acceptingaccepting of everyone.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
But there's some nonsense that goes on that just
needs to be checked I think Iconsider if you really think
about what an old democrat wasyeah, clinton, that I mean even
before that.
Yeah, yeah, sure, like becauseyou're, they were the blue
collar guys um, I feel like I'man old democrat with
conservative values, I thinknationalistic values yeah, right

(01:02:34):
, it's conservative, yeah, yeahI mean, that's how it should be
right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
Yeah, well and live and let live yeah, at the end of
end of the day, I think yourjob as an American is to vote
for the person who you thinkwill do the best for the country
.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
And not off of what your political ideology is or
for what this person is going toquote do because he said he's
going to do that, do because hesaid he's going to do that.
I mean, I really if everybodyjust voted their heart and said
I think this person is the rightperson for america and and and
gets rid of all that otherbullshit, that's you know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
On the peripheral, then I think we'd be okay, but
nobody can do that no, there'stoo, much money involved, and
they vote based on the letternext to their name yeah, they
don't and they don't even knowwhere that person, what they
stand for and what their viewsare on things and what they've
done.
Well, what they haven't done,they go.

(01:03:32):
Oh R D, do you know?

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Yeah, yeah, I have the last election here.
We go to the high school hereand that's where our precinct is
, and you go up, they hand youexample ballots.
So there's the Republican,there's the Democrat.
The Democrat's is just a bluecard and it says check this name

(01:03:55):
.
No information, nothing aboutthat person.
The Republican one's always,you know, qr code.
This is what they're about.
This is the policies theysupport.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
And it's like man, this is just, it's blatant.
This is just blatant.
They know.
All you got to do is tell themwho to vote for.
Yeah, and it's like all ofthese liberals.

(01:04:17):
Man, I got to get kicked in theballs now too.

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
That's what I got.
To get kicked in the balls now,too it's like five times.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
But hang on, hang on.
But all of them claim to belike these intellectuals and
stuff.
It's like dude, you areallowing someone to think for
you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
I just told you I don't socialize with them for
those reasons.
You understand now.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Look, I have a cousin .
This is typical Lib.
Right here, they tell you thatthey're all for everyone and all
this shit.
Meanwhile, she sends herdaughter to private school
because she doesn't want her tobe in any particular element.
That's the hypocrisy of thelibs.
What the fuck does that mean?
What the fuck does that mean?

(01:04:55):
Like I mean, honestly, I was.
I'm blessed that I grew up in asuch an eclectic, uh
environment where I was with somany different people from all
types.
Like that made me a betterperson.
Yeah, you know, if you putsomeone in a box, you only know

(01:05:15):
what's in that box.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
That's awful yeah, I grew up in a small town of, you
know, 12 000 people and we had ahandful of Puerto Ricans, we
had, I think, two black familiesin town and all the rest were,
you know, white Europeans, youknow.
And I joined the Marine Corpsright out of high school and I
got to tell you it's like thebest thing I've done in my life,
because it just opened you knowmy eyes to like everything else

(01:05:41):
, and the Marine Corps is likewe don't give a shit.
you know what color you are,where you came from, what your
education is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
All we need to do to do is like take that Hill.
I mean it's mission focused andthey could give a shit about
everything else, can I?

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
count on you, you can count on me.
Let's go and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
I love that and that's you know so my, my
brother my brother served in themilitary.
I didn't.
He was in the Navy.
John, yeah, I think he spentmost of the time in the brig.
That's a whole other story.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
He's probably a good dude then.
Oh, he's a good dude.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
He's the MMA guy, I think.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
I told you about.
Oh shit, yeah, I was going tosay if you spent time in the
brig back then he's probably agood dude.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Actually we should get him on the phone he is a
trip Dude, let's do a podcast on.
July 1st for the Mike Tysonfight and then we'll get him on
the phone.
Oh so, if you watched back notthese days, but let's say 10
years ago and back, maybe noteven 10 years ago front row for

(01:06:42):
every fight, Wow For every fight, Wow For every fight, Like he'd
call me.
Hey, you see me Sitting next toJenna Jameson.
What the?
And Tito Ortiz sitting with BigNog and Little Nog and his best
friends Junior Dos Santos, ifyou know who that is.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
You have to listen to uh, we did a, a podcast and we
called um, so it was actually um, josh was here and uh, gerald
was here, and then mike, and wecalled this guy george lockhart,
who was a Marine, who's a radiorecon guy and he's a trainer

(01:07:23):
for, like, tyson Fury.

Speaker 3 (01:07:26):
I knew, I knew that name.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Yes, conor McGregor, yeah, just about everybody.
And some of the stories hetells us, man, oh my.

Speaker 3 (01:07:35):
God.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Oh I bet, I bet Jeez dude, he could go for hours.
He was telling us how he was onRogan and then he said yeah,
man, if you watch it, there'slike an hour where they won't
put the camera on me.
It's because I'm passed outdrunk on a table.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
That's great.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Yeah, that's a good dude.
He's going to try and come up.
Actually he's in New Zealandand then he's going to Ireland
and then this fall he'll be back.

Speaker 3 (01:08:15):
But be uh, this fall he'll be back, but he says he's
going to come up and uh hop onhere with us is he?

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
is he kiwi?
No, no, he was on the UltimateFighter and he did UFC for a
while but then he just went into.
He started his own business fortraining and diet and he's the
best.
He is literally the best, likehe is the number one dude for

(01:08:42):
all athletes in the world.
And, um, because he's got itdown to a science man and when,
when we talk about on thepodcast, when we publish that
one, he talks about all theseformulas he has and stuff, and
then josh howard's like what thefuck?
He's like man, slow down.
I'm trying to write this shitdown, but he's in the wrong time

(01:09:04):
frame, like if he would havebeen, you know, when he was
fighting.
Yeah, he is a straight I saythis in a good way a knuckle
dragger Savage, but smart asfuck.
He does not feel pain.
He is a warrior, a, a warriorat heart, a true warrior all

(01:09:27):
those guys are warriors mybrother would tell me he's like
the public doesn't understandhow tough these guys are.

Speaker 3 (01:09:35):
Um, they are, they, they.
Their tolerance for pain iswell beyond any normal human
being.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Yeah, it's ridiculous .

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Their skill levels off the charts.
Their endurance is off thecharts and and mentally so
strong.
You know, if you're going to dothat shit, I mean your head's
gotta be right.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Oh yeah, we used to pay George to eat random things,
Um like like what.
I'm about to tell you and he'ddo it for like 10 bucks, Like
you know, the milk challengewhen you drink milk.
Yeah Well, this kid did it.
He lost, he puked, puked in acup and we paid George to drink

(01:10:15):
the cup.
Oh fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
Yeah, 10 bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Yeah, oh he ate, not only a dead bird, a dead bird on
the side of the road in iraq 10bucks, I don't know how I think
50 cents, I think he got like75 or something like that for it
.
Um, but yeah, scorpions, youname it dude, like he just uh

(01:10:38):
all right yeah, he's that dude,but he's also superiorly
intelligent too.
You know what I mean.
Like not in like common sensetype stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
I mean, if he's drinking vomit.
I mean how smart can you be?

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Well, I, mean, is it going to kill?

Speaker 3 (01:10:56):
him.
It's going to probably make himvomit.
I mean all we know is, if heneeded $10, I would have given
him $10.
Yeah, but this was in Iraq,dude.
I mean, you had $10 to give himto drink vomit.
If he really needed it, youprobably would have given it to
him.
Anyways, nobody had any money?

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
No, and if he had $10 , man, all I'm saying is I don't
know the whole story behindthat.
It might have been he neededCopenhagen and he had to do what
he had to do.
And I'm going to tell you, in atime of war, and you don't have
Copenhagen, I'm going to drinkthat vomit, all right, all right
.
All right, I'm sorry, there's alot of people.
I, I, you know I can definitelyrelate that, but, but, but like

(01:11:37):
this, he is absolutely unrealand he has taken everything he's
put his mind to.
He has done and like to thebest, the best level, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
So this week, I mean, I think I'm in town, I think we
do a.
How long are you here for Scott?

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Till after Memorial Day.

Speaker 3 (01:11:57):
Oh, so you're here for a minute.
Oh yeah.
We should do an episode on whotrump's vp candidate should be,
and and and why.
Because no one knows like.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
Let's see if we can get tulsi gabbard on the phone I
I that would be amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
Let's try it.
I'd love to get her here, Iwant to I want to see her in
person.
I've looked at all her surfpictures, mike um.
So you know, you know, look,I'm not gonna say she's not
gonna say anything anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
but you know, look, I'm not going to say anything.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
She's not going to say anything anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:12:25):
No, no, but we're ridiculous, but I'll tell you.
So I have this.
I have been fortunate in mylife that I've worked for some
really, really smart ladies andI just have.
Oh she raised her damn prices.

(01:12:48):
Oh, what's it now?
How?

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
much.
It's double now.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
Okay, I'll pay for it Last week.
I'll pay for it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
I just, I just I mean to get her on.
It's worth $1,500.

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Oh, I, I, I, I do it.
So, so I just I for 15 minutes.
Oh, I'd do it.
So I just I want to see hersucceed.
She has earned it.
She just needs a chance.
I want to see her succeed.
She's not killing dogs.

(01:13:21):
She's not a fucking lunaticlike Hillary.

Speaker 2 (01:13:23):
Well, she's always been an America first person.
You know she served her country.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
How many years in the military and how many terms you
know Congress, yeah, and anyonewho could just take a step back
and go hey, you know what, Ineed to kind of shift my.
I need to kind of shift my myfocus here because of all these
things that I'm experiencing,versus just being blind and just
going with the like.

(01:13:47):
To me, that's important, likeyou're wise, right, if you can
say, oh, wait a minute.
Okay, everything that I thoughtwas the case is not.
Maybe I need to take a stepback.

Speaker 4 (01:14:00):
That's the type of person you need in leadership
Someone who can say hey maybeI'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:14:02):
Maybe I need to take a step back.
That that's the type of personyou need in leadership.

Speaker 1 (01:14:05):
Yeah, someone who can say hey, I maybe I'm wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
Yeah, maybe I was wrong, you know, I let's, let's,
let's take a look at this overhere.
All right Look cause no one, noone's right all the time and
you know, uh and times and like,reevaluate shit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Fuck, I got to do it every day.

Speaker 3 (01:14:24):
I'm working this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:26):
I got a plan.
I got a plan for this.
Yeah, let's shoot for Thursday.
Thursday Does Thursday work foryou?
Scott Mink says Thursday workedfor you.
Thursday.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
Yeah, I'm really important, so I got to check my
schedule.
Friday Friday, dude, you can'tmess with my friday yeah, friday
is his date night with reneeoften, uh, you can bring her
here for a date.
I mean, dude, you have no idea,you're getting crazy now I'm
not sure about friday, becauseuh boccio's in town.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
What but he's?
He's gonna be be, he'straveling with the mayor and
he's going to be in DC and hemight have a few hours free.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
If you're going to go see him, I'd love to go see him
too.
Okay, that'd be badass.
So I got to tell you the lasttime I saw him, I was in a golf
cart and the wheels came off.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
It was awesome, oh Jesus.
I it was awesome, oh Jesus.
I told you when I bumped intothem that time in San Francisco.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
Oh yes.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Yeah, like they literally came off.

Speaker 1 (01:15:28):
Oh yeah.
So we were at our friend BillyBenedict's wedding, oh Jesus,
and we got drunk.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Say no more.

Speaker 1 (01:15:38):
It was at a country club and it was by Modesto, so
it was a real mountainy or hillyarea and me and this guy, nick
Baccio, were in a golf cartcruising around and there was
this T looking over it was likea par 3 looking over the green
and we just took that golf cartand went, let's do it.

(01:15:58):
Wheels popped off, we ran Uh-oh, and I think Billy's parents
had to pay for the golf cart orsomething.
It was a good night.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
It was a good night, it was fun.
All right, we're going to this.

Speaker 1 (01:16:18):
Yeah, it's soccer time.
Thank you guys for comingtonight.
I'm going to.
That was a good conversation.
It was an awesome conversation,as always, and you guys know
you're always invited here nomatter when, and we'll think of
a conversation.
But I am seriously going towork on trying to convince Tulsi
Gabbard, for $1,500, to come onhere and we will have some

(01:16:39):
great questions for her.
I think it'll be awesome.
Yeah, it'll be awesome.
Yeah, it'll be money In.
Yes, in, let's do it.
Yeah, that's a wrap.
Thanks again, guys.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
All righty.