Veteran Voices: The Healing Power of Unity and Remembrance with Dan "Santa Six" Stinson

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, we're back , not the press Repeat offender
today, mr Dan Stenson.
He is a brother, a friend,someone that I dearly respect, a
lot, and we're going to betalking about some of his
nonprofit stuff and from therelet's just go with that.
Dan, how are you doing today?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I'm doing outstanding .
Thank you for having me here.
It's really great to be here.
I was wondering when you'regoing to ask me to come back.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
I'm glad to have you here.
I do have to.
I forget this every time.
Also joining us is our Manx.
Manx, will you please say hello.
I need a number 10.
Hello.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Okay, I like that.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
That was.
That was a 9.5.
You're almost there.
We're almost at the 10 status.
So, anyways, dan, thank you forcoming.
Dude, it's always a pleasure tohave you here and I want you to
be a repeat offender all thetime, because you've got great
stories and you're a good humanbeing, and that's what we like.
So, and you're a good humanbeing and that's what we like.

(01:05):
So, with that said, you have anonprofit that you have started
and then one that you areplanning to start, and I'd like
to talk to you about this.
And just let you run with it,man.
Just let you go with what it isyou're doing and your plans for
the future with the next one.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
All right, I'll throw it out there right now.
This is an unabashed andunashamed plug for the future
with the next one.
All right, I'll throw it outthere right now.
This is an unabashed andunashamed plug for the nonprofit
, because that's what nonprofitsare about.
Right, it started actually.
I was raised a Roman Catholicand I lost that for a while and
I became a Baptist and I wentback to Roman Catholicism and

(01:45):
what I'm really about is notnecessarily organized religion.
I'm more about the wholeconcept of God and about peace.
And in my life, as you have andmany of us have, I've been a
not good person and I've hurt alot of people in my life.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Did you just say?
I've always been a good personand I've hurt a lot of people in
my life.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Did you just say?
I've always been a good person.
I'm just joking.
No, I'm not a good person.
No, I have done some bad things.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
We have and maybe we did good things that we thought
were good things in the name ofgood, but they were actually bad
things for other people.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
It's kind of irrelevant.
And then the way I look at itis if I do something, that is
good, um, because I'm doing it.
That's just the way it is.
Uh, anywho, after a huge movingevent and a god event and that
was the evacuation ofafghanistan in 2021, I realized

(02:43):
that there were Jewishorganizations, rabbis in New
York donating $1.5 million to meto evacuate Muslims out of
Afghanistan into a Muslim nationthrough a Christian nonprofit.
Yeah, and I'm like, seriously,and so all of that, and the
crown prince of the UAE wasletting me allow.

(03:04):
So all of that, and the crownprince of the UAE was letting me
allow.
He was allowing the Christiansto have Christian services in
the camp in Abu Dhabi and he wasallowing Christmas to be
celebrated, right.
So it's like there's only oneGod.
Truly, is one God right?
And if people say they'reatheists or they don't believe

(03:26):
in God for whatever reason, cool, rock on man.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
You know, you can believe in a rock, you can
believe in nothing, you canbelieve in a light bulb I don't
give a flying rat fuck but ifyou look at the beauty of the
world, you look at the beauty ofthe human body, you look at the
beauty of birth, there is a God, yeah, but there's one God In
my mind.
There's one God.
So we started a nonprofit andthe nonprofit is called One God

(03:52):
Foundation and if you look it uponline, it's the number one
godfoundationorg, because someother asshole took the whole one
, God Wait no.
It's one, the number one, uh-huhone, god.
Wait, no, it's one, the numberone, uh-huh, god, god Foundation
.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Foundationorg org.
Okay, you know, when I publishthis I will make sure that that
is scrolling across the bottom,because I'm high speed like that
.
Cool, it's going to be amazing.
I might even have likefireworks and shit like boom.
That'd be pretty badass.
I don't know if I can do that,but I'll try.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
So when we started I took the Celtic symbol.
It's right up there there it isand we put the O in the middle
for one for the one.
God, Okay, you put the O in themiddle for one for the one.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
God.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Okay, serendipitously , I met a Marine, another combat
veteran, and him and his entireunit had that logo, that Irish
Celtic thing, tattooed on theirbody and he's the only one left
from his Marine unit.
Wow, they either died in combator took their own lives.
That's heavy man, yeah, and hewas actually out here visiting

(05:06):
and we went down to Arlingtonand saw one of his brothers and
I saw Lex, my dad.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
So you know you just, you just reminded me of
something that we have beendoing every year and we did not
do it this year, and I'm reallydisappointed in myself is for
Lex.
We had every year we honor himby doing the Lex challenge and
by doing his workout, and we didnot do it this year, and I'm

(05:37):
really pissed off.
What's up with Sean, is he okay?

Speaker 2 (05:40):
What's that, sean?
Sean, yeah, he's fine, I shouldnot even ask him this what's
that, sean?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Sean, yeah, he's fine .
I should not even ask him this.
No, he's fine.
Uh, you know, we're actuallygoing up to his.
Uh, what is the crawfish thingon the 12th?
Yeah, he's fine.
He's traveling all over theplace and yeah, but, but, uh, no
one got together this year andit's just like, oh, this is how
it happens, so next year wecannot let it happen like this.

(06:09):
That thing that we startedwhere we do Lex's workout on the
memorial and on his birthday.
We have to do it, we have to doit and I cannot.
I'm really disappointed inmyself for not sticking to that
and I don't know why it slippedmy mind this year.
I just don't know why Life goeson.
She's happy.

(06:29):
Minx, I'm going to need you tokick me in the balls repeatedly
later, but softly not hard.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
She smiled.
She's like I'm all about that.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Just little taps, little taps, no hard kicks.
But don't make it like nice,Make it a little painful.
I got to pay for this, Okay.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
And you enjoy it.
So, anyway.
So we started in one Godfoundation and if you look at it
, it's the Celtic symbol, right?
It's part of the Trinity.
Not even thinking about it.
I'm like there's three legs tothis, like a three-legged stool,
like a milking stool, right.
Three legs, and the first legis helping the oppressed around

(07:10):
the world.
It goes back to Afghanistan.
It goes back to the Christiansin Nigeria who were being
slaughtered by ISIS.
It goes to we did help somepeople in the Ukraine.
We helped some people in Gaza.
I'm helping some people now inHaiti, some missionaries
Wherever people are oppressedaround the world, even if it's
here in America, even thoughthere's so many freaking
organizations that help peoplein America, we'll still step in

(07:33):
where we have to step in.
So that's the first leg.
The second one is veterans andhelping veterans in whatever
they need, and that's such a youknow everybody's like wave the
flag, I'll help veterans, andshit like that.
There's nothing more I can dothat other groups aren't doing,
except for this.
I experienced IV ketaminetherapy.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Oh, I was going to ask you about this.
Yes, so I'm going to have morequestions after this little part
of this segment.
All right, but yes.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
So I'll wait for you to rock on on that shit.
But so that's one of them is myability or the ability of the
foundation to sponsor a veteran,to go to get this treatment, to
help them, and I can elaborateon that.
And then the third aspect of itis anti-human trafficking.
During the evacuation ofAfghanistan, I found that many

(08:32):
US non-governmentalorganizations, nonprofits, were
actually trafficking minorchildren.
Whether they knew it or not,they were doing it and they had
the biggest hearts in the world.
Some of them like, oh, I'mhelping these poor children, but
they didn't realize they wereactually trafficking these

(08:52):
children because they're stupid.
I mean, they got great heartsand all, but they just didn't
get it.
Dan.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I have slowly been doing accumulating research on
this.
I have slowly been doingaccumulating research on this.
I don't have any of it preparedright now, but I am going to
have probably like a five part,five different episodes on this,
with the human trafficking andchild trafficking in the United
States.

(09:20):
Trafficking in the UnitedStates, because it's something
that everybody is turning a.
No one is giving a rat's fuckabout it and it's happening
right in front of us.
Yeah, and it's.
It is so disappointing whenwe've got our leaders no,
they're not leaders, they'rejust politicians, they're not

(09:41):
even leaders Getting money tosave children in other countries
.
But yet we've got how many tensof thousands of kids that go
missing in our own country andthey, they just get swiped past
and it just really pisses me offand it's like you know what
motherfuckers?
How about caring for the kidsthat are in our country?

(10:02):
You haven't done a damn thingand I'll bet, I'll bet the money
that's been put towards that inour own country, compared to
the money that's been puttowards other countries, is very
, very small in comparison.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Oh yeah, and that fucking pisses me off to digress
off of that really quick and goback to what you're saying.
Sorry, the Pentagon just found$300 million to send to the
Ukraine.
They found $300 million.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Nobody knows where the fuck that's going, so $300
million.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
We found that $300 million to go to buy weapons for
the Ukraine.
How about $300 million to getbetter housing for veterans?
Oh, excuse me, better housingfor military members.
$300 million to help with childcare for military members.
$300 million to helpdeployments or our equipment to

(10:58):
go on out and fight.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Or how about even though I am not big on people
that give excuses and that giveup on life, that are homeless,
but you know what?
How about, instead of shovelingmoney to Ukraine, don't shovel
money into a bullshit programhere either but find a solution

(11:20):
with that money to get our ownhomeless off the streets and get
them recovered Somehow, someway, some form.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I got one of those.
Actually it's part of ournon-profit.
So we have a small what do youcall it homestead?
My wife likes to call it a farm.
I call it a homestead becausethat's what it is, because I
started when I moved up fromTexas up to Virginia to
facilitate a customer up here.

(11:48):
I had a contract with mycompany and I just don't like
people, so I wasn't going tolive east of Haymarket, so I
found a place west of Haymarket,north of Virginia.
Why Explain this?
Why I don't like people?

Speaker 1 (12:05):
No, no, the east and west line.
I need to know this becauseyou're not the first person I've
heard this from Starfare Gap.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
But why Well?
You start losing trees, youstart getting more townhomes,
you start getting more hoes.
So when you get Karen andadtelling you how to live your
life and you can't put anamerican flag up or you know,
stand there in your robe withyour combat boots, smoking a
cigar, pissing off your porch.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I know I can't even walk around my house naked
without people complaining.
This is bullshit.
But that's you, manx.
Do you complain to the hoaabout me walking around naked?

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I saw it on her LinkedIn channel or Instagram.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
But no, you're right.
No, I see where you're goingand the reason why I bring that
up is somebody we know.
I cannot say exactly how weknow this person, but they're
involved with our family somehow.
And she told us she's like look, I am so-and-so, thank you.

(13:14):
I just threw my other fake pen.
I got one more.
I got these little boogieboards all over the place.
Man, these things are awesomeBecause it erases the evidence.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Erase boom, I was write myself porn.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
yeah, so you can draw cock and balls on there, all
you want.
All I'm gonna do is hit thatbutton and it's like bam you
thought you had me, but youdon't, so hot down anyways, um,
this woman was like.
She's like, I was born andraised in loudon county and then
she looked at us and she waslike Western Loudoun County, I'm

(13:47):
not one of these Eastern peopleand that's when I knew I was
like you're my people, you're mypeople, I know what you're
saying.
I know exactly what you'resaying and we were right.
We were right, she's goodpeople.
But anyways, yeah, there'sdefinitely a thing, because when
you have civilization andhousing coming up, there's greed
and there's a bunch of assholesaround here.

(14:08):
There's a shit ton of assholesand all they want to do is just
take money from people, takeadvantage of people and don't
get me wrong, there are somevery good people around here too
, but the vast majority on thisside of our county can't say I
want to hang out with them.
Some of them are just not myhanging out type.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Even rural Northern Virginia, falkier County, which
is where I am, lord Falkier.
Falkier County, which was themost difficult thing when I
first moved up here for Texasand I went to the DMV and
they're like what county do youlive in?
And I couldn't say it to thelady.
Fuck you Fuck, fuck you, county.
And I'm like I did not know howto say it.

(14:50):
I just stood there.
I'm like F F Q.
She's like what.
I'm like ma'am, and I spelledit, I wrote it on.
It'd be like cussing at her andshe laughed.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Whenever I hear Falkier County, I think of that
movie Shrek, shrek, yeah,because there's Lord.

Speaker 2 (15:11):
Falkier the little guy.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah, lord Falkier.
Yeah, but he was a little pricktoo Both of them.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
So when I came up from Texas and I drove up 81 and
I came this way on 66, I wasjust looking and I saw it's so
beautiful there, right Trees andshit like that, and I'm like,
oh, this is really awesome.
And at the time it was 2007.
I had just left HelmandProvince after a year in Helmand

(15:45):
and working with the Gurkhasand the Brits and stuff like
that.
So it was a very the Gurkhasare little badasses.
They were amazing.
They were some of the bestcombatants I've ever fought with
.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Have you ever watched ?
Not to get off topic here, butthere was this.
I can't remember the name ofthis dude, but he's a.
He's a Gurkha, and then he wentSAS and then he did.
He's one of the guys, I think,that summited all seven of the

(16:18):
highest peaks on earth.
I could be, I might be.
I might be mixing my stories upPeople don't judge me.
I've had a lot of tequila butthere's a guy though makes I
need a, I need a fact checkerhere.
There's this dude who was a.
I believe he's from India orPakistan, probably.
India gonna be India?

(16:39):
Yeah, india, he went.
He was one of the first ones toactually go into SAS as a
Gurkha, and then he did adocumentary about climbing
mountains.
I don't know if he's one of theguys that summited all seven of
them, but can you look this guyup, because he's a little
badass man.
He's a bad motherfucker All thebadasses they are.
I remember talking to some.

(17:00):
They had that knife, the littleGurkha knife.
Yeah, kukri, yeah, I saw someguys get presented with one and
I was extremely jealous.
I was like they didn't like meand I didn't get one.
But they only present it topeople that they know I got it.
Someday I'll have a gherkinknife, but those dudes are

(17:21):
little badasses, man.
They are.
They are badasses.
And did you find the dude I'mtalking about?

Speaker 2 (17:30):
There was one Gurkha.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
He's from Nepal.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Nepal, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
He's from Nepal, yeah .

Speaker 2 (17:35):
There was one Gurkha, a legendary man, and he fought
and then whipped out his kukriand like, slaughtered like 100
and something.
Taliban, wow, some crap likethat.
They're warriors, man.
They're amazing guys.
They're warriors, truly, areamazing men.
Yeah, so in Helmand Province,at Camp Bastion.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Yeah, oh, wait, wait, wait, minx, you got to get on
the microphone your mile per jobGet your sexy voice on that
microphone, minx, come on, itswings over to you.
Nermal Purja, nermal.
No idea if I pronounce it right, is it Nermal?

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Oh, he's SBS.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, that's him, that's the guy.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, there's aNetflix documentary on this guy.
He's a bad motherfucker manFour Peaks, but he has, like
he's, significant 2003.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Sbs in 2009.
Minx is scrolling way toofucking fast for me.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Minx is a reader.
She reads faster than mostpeople.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
The first Gurkha to join the British unit the.
Sbs.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Yeah, yep, yeah, you got to watch the documentary on
him.
Man, I feel like this is a dudethat I'd like to go drink with,
but definitely would not wantto drink with me, because he'd
be like oh my God, you're afucking soap scum on my shower
shoe.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
No, they're the most humble, awesome guys I've ever
met.
They're really, really awesome.
Men, what were those?

Speaker 1 (19:13):
dudes in um in iraq, the guys that were like jumbo
the jumbo guys, there's lordfarquhar, yeah, lord farquhar.
No, remember the guys at thegates um, I, I.
They're not gurkhas, maybe theywere, but they were.

(19:35):
They were from africa and jumbothe jumbo guys.
You say jumbo to them.
Uh, they were from uh n.
I don't know, maybe Somalia Imean Jumbo is said in Somalia
and all across Kenya, but theywere the guys that are gates in
Iraq forever, the Jumbo guys.

(19:57):
They're always like Jumbo andin the back of my head I'm
hearing the happy African musicand Jumbo Racist, like that.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
No, no, I'm hearing the happy African music and I go
oh, racist like that.
No, no, that's not racist, comeon, I was in Iraq for the
invasion, before the invasionand the invasion, and I was done
.
I went back to Afghanistan.
Oh, and for the record, Ibelieve that Iraq was a waste of
resources and time and we nevershould have been there.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Well, and I could say the same, I agree, I could say
the same thing for Afghanistanin hindsight.

Speaker 2 (20:32):
Now, afghanistan could have been solved quickly.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Oh, yeah, it could have it didn't.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
And when we got our jackpot, we should have been
done.
We should have Like we're outof here, we're have been done.
We should have Like we're outof here, we're done.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
No, we should have.
We fucked the goat.
We fucked the goat on both ofthem.
And you know what?
One of the things I'll say aboutthe comparison for me between
Iraq and Afghanistan and I'llnever forget telling the minks
this, because I was used to, youknow, being in smelly shitholes

(21:10):
in Iraq for a long time Everyplace smelled like shit.
It just did Big city, smallcity, village, whatever it
smelled like shit.
I go to northern Afghanistanand I remember going through a
city it was Kunduz and Iremember driving Like I'm in the
back of this DMG and I'msmelling bread.

(21:31):
I'm like, wait a minute, itsmells good here.
I smell bread.
It doesn't smell like shit, ohmy God.
And then the other.
So, granted, later in life inAfghanistan, I slowly figured
out that there was shiteverywhere in Afghanistan.
However, the thing that was thedifference that I noticed, even
with the fighters, um, thepride in Afghanistan was much

(21:55):
different than the pride in Iraq, definitely, and everything
they did, everything the Afghansdid, the pride was different,
and that's something I admireand respect.
Don't get me wrong.
Iraq, there's tons of greatthings, but that was definitely
something that I noticed betweenthe two and spending a lot of
time in both places and,honestly, I never visited a

(22:20):
beautiful place in Iraq Not once, and I was everywhere.
Beautiful place in Iraq?
Not once, and I was everywhere.
Um, and Afghanistan.
I visited hundreds of placesthat were absolutely beautiful.
Yeah, mountains, rivers, eventhe deserts.
There's some beauty there.
Yeah, um, it was just war torn.

(22:40):
So, uh, I mean, I mean, I wishsomeday that, uh, the american
public would be able to go andvisit there in a safe
environment to really see thebeauty and the history of
afghanistan I want to go back Ido too, man.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Like my big goal, like my dream is to go back to
afghanistan it's just so likeit's amazing.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
There I I feel like other than you know, roadside
bombs and shit, you knowwhatever okay I'll pass on that
shit but?
but what I'm saying is like, uh,the countryside, or you're up
in the mountains and it's soserene even in the winter the
snow top mountains.
Or if you're in the, the middleof the desert somewhere down in

(23:25):
southern afghanistan, there'sbeauty there too.
They work with the correctcrevasses and, um, the caves,
and it's just amazing to me, man, the fact that there's some old
motherfucker in the middle ofthe desert that can grow roses
all year around.
I love my rose gardens yes,yeah and the afghans are great

(23:50):
at agriculture.
Man, there was this old guy wehad in our little place.
We stayed um in the middle ofthe desert and we had a rose
garden and his job was to keepthe like.
All he did, his passion, was tokeep those roses alive and keep
them beautiful, and that's whathe lived for.
And Afghans, that's how theyare.

(24:13):
They take their pride inwhatever it is they do.
They do it the best they can.
That's their job.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
I love it so 2002, afghanistan, I was working, was
a contractor for a department ofdefense.
My boss was a special forcescolonel, uh, that I known back

(24:38):
in bosnia.
He's a vietnam veteran.
They called him, uh, blade invietnam sf group right because
he played through knives.
Yeah, whatever, he's fuckingsilly.
He was a Vietnam veteran.
They called him Blade inVietnam SF group right Blade
Because he could throw knives.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, whatever, he was fucking silly.
He was a vampire slayer, wasn'the?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
He'd be throwing knives everywhere.
He had like three Silver Stars,Distinguished Service Cross,
blah, blah blah.
He actually had the Nobel PeacePrize for his work in the Sinai
Desert.
Great guy, His name was.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
Bob, how did he get the Nobel Peace Prize?
His name was Blade.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
Part of the UN Peacekeeping Force in the Sinai.
All the commanders there gotthe Nobel Peace Prize.
Wow, so he had the Nobel PeacePrize.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
You know before you continue.
This is just a thought.
So you know how.
When a Marine or someone in theArmy maybe anybody in the
military they get theirretirement medal Right when
they're retiring, it's a medalfor their complete service,

(25:43):
right?
It shouldn't be a medal for thelast six months, it should be a
medal for the last 30 years.
This is what you deserve, thismedal.
I look at the Nobel Peace Prizeas that and I feel like if
you're slaughtering people andyour name's Blade, you probably
shouldn't have a Nobel PeacePrize.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I don't know was a.
He was a really amazing man andthat's why he's with group,
that's why he was sf right greatguy.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
For the record, I'm not saying he's amazing, I'm not
amazing.
I'm just saying no.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Peace prize maybe not , I don't know he was uh of
stature, kind of small and thin,non-assuming, if you will, in
in the way that you know you andI are both was he was he
borderline midget, negativeghost rider uh.
But he wasn't like one of usmeat-eating, freaking jarheads,

(26:39):
right?
Great guy, great guy uh.
Bob's past.
He actually got a lung cancer.
He never smoked a cigarette inhis entire life.
It's from agent orange.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
He passed Uh how many people do you think that we
know?
I'm sorry to keep interrupting,no, no, um, but I've had
multiple glasses of tequila andI apologize.
Um, how many people do you knowthat we'll see in our lifetime?
Because you mentioned AgentOrange, yeah, none of us have

(27:13):
been affected by anything thatwe had ingested or inhaled,
whether it's Afghanistan or Iraq.
When do you think we're goingto start seeing that?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Oh, I see it now, One of my employees I just hired.
He's a Marine ReadyReconnaissance Marine.
Actually, he came on board.
We hired him like seven yearsago.
What's his name?

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Joe, joe, tell me his name.
Actually, write his last name.
I'll write his name because,yeah, they'll say it on.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah, oh, I know that guy.
Yes, I do.
All right, cool.
So, yeah, he comes on board.
He's on board like within amonth and he calls me, he goes
boss.
I gotta talk to you like, yeah,bro, what's up, he goes.
I have cancer, he had a lymph.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Lymph node thing.
Yeah, yeah, whatever it was.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
And it came from this whole shit that he was involved
in.
Here's my old.
This is how we run our company,because I'm a veteran, I have a
.
You know, profit isn't thebiggest thing for me.
It's us right.
So I turn to my wife.
I'm like, hey, you know thisguy.

(28:29):
You know we just hired my boy.
He told me he's been diagnosedwith cancer.
So can you please get in touchwith our insurance company?
She goes okay, what do you wantme to do?
I'm like whatever the fuck wehave to do to make sure that
he's covered, no matter what,his family's covered, no matter
what.
And I'm not like saying it likeI'm a big dick or and I'm a
great and all, but it was like Ifelt responsible for this.

(28:53):
So here's.
So you're asking, you're notresponsible.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
No, no, he's our brother.
Yeah, no, but what I'm sayingis is yeah, no, but what I'm
saying is, the assholes that areat the top are responsible for
all this bullshit.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Check, roger that, motherfuckers, he's our brother.
Yes, we got to take care of himand if I hire him, if he works
for me, then I'm responsible.
He's my family.
So we changed our entiremedical coverage to hook him up
and his family, which was great.
I don't want to accolades that,it's just that's what you've

(29:29):
got to do to help people.
So to go back to your question,how many of our guys now are
going to start popping up?
I think a lot of them, and it'sreally going to happen quickly,
I think so too, it's going tobe covered up.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah, it's going to be hidden under other stuff.
So think so too I'm a little.
It's going to be covered up.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah, it's going to be hidden under other stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
So check this out.
We had which I need to link youup with these people.
So recently we had Jordan Reedand Brant McCartney on the
podcast and Jordan Reed's an NFLplayer, former NFL player,
brant McCartney his brothercommitted suicide, naval Academy
grad.
A lot of different things goingon, but they started a thing

(30:14):
it's called the 38 Challenge andbasically it's a workout.
You just incorporate the number38.
The whole purpose is to bringawareness to mental I don't want
to say mental illness.
It could be PTS, it could beCTE, it could be the number of
the things with veterans andspecifically NFL players.

(30:37):
Before the podcast I waslooking at, I was trying to find
statistics for suicides withveterans after the Afghan
withdrawal and I'm going to tellyou, to this date I have not

(31:03):
found such statistics Really,and it's because they're not In
this day and age, in thispolitical climate, we're not
going to find them.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Well, how could, if I may, how could you record and
say it's relative, post theAfghan?

Speaker 1 (31:23):
Well in my mind why I think it's got to be higher,
why I think it's got to behigher some moral injury well,
yes, yeah, because how manydudes and and so how many?
How many men and women thathave served um dudes and

(31:45):
dudettes, dudes, and so how manymen and women that have served
Dudes and dudettes, dudes andnot dudes and minks?
Anyways, she just gave me thebad look, damn it, because dudes
and not dudes is sexual, butdude just do that.
But what I'm saying is like,after the Afghan withdrawal and

(32:09):
how that went down, how manyveterans are out there thinking
you know what?
What I sacrificed, what Iwatched my friend sacrifice, was
for absolutely nothing.
Boom, and that has to be true.
I don't see how that cannot betrue, because I think about this

(32:33):
, okay, and most people thathave served in Afghanistan think
about this, yeah, and I justfeel like you know what the rate
of suicide has got.
There's no way possible.
It has not gone up after thatevent and the fact that our

(32:56):
government would cover that upit doesn't surprise me.
But it's kind of shitty, man,because I don't know if we'll
ever know the truth.
I don't know if we'll ever knowthe truth of how many people
have committed suicide and takentheir own life because of
failed policy.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Well, it's not something people want to watch,
right?
So it's not something that themainstream media puts out.
What they put out is DonaldTrump this, or Biden's crap in
his pants or falling off amotorcycle or a bicycle, or you
know that.
That's what they put out.
So that's what america looks at, because america only looks at
social media for like 30 seconds.
Boom, boom, boom.

(33:34):
That's my news.
That's everything um moralinjury.
There's a guy his name name isretired Lieutenant Colonel Scott
Mann.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
I know that name.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
Okay, cool SF guy right.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Scott Mann.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
He has a really good elegy of a gosh.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
I can't remember.
Minks, can you pull LieutenantColonel Scott Mann up?
I've got to see if I know thisguy Good guy.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Operation Pineapple Express.
He helped with the evacuationin Afghanistan.
I don't remember Scott being onthe ground, but he did a lot of
things.
He might have been there.
There's a lot of people there Ididn't cross paths with At the
time.
However calm, he does a play,it's really good.
He wrote a book.
I like Scott, I respect him andthe concept of the moral injury

(34:27):
which is what you're getting at20 years, 20 years.
I know guys whose kids theyretired and they served in
Afghanistan.
They retired and their kidsserved in Afghanistan.
Then what happens in Afghanistan?
Yeah Right.
And then what happens inAfghanistan?
The current administration sayswe're going to depart on 9-11,

(34:51):
if anybody remembers whathappened on 9-11.
And they give it to the guyswho actually committed 9-11.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
It's ridiculous, yeah , it's disheartening.
And you know what?
Um, I used to make the joke,you know, whenever we were in a
compound or something inAfghanistan, of, like man, I
need to carve.
I need to carve my name in herebecause my son will come back
here and see it.
Yeah, no joke.
Yeah, I mean, a lot of peoplemade that joke.

(35:22):
I'm sure they might find thelittle dick cards I stoned
around everywhere.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Yeah, the moral injury aspect of it is.
So we did so much and this iswhat I try to tell veterans when
I speak to them is your servicewas not in vain and what you
did was not in vain.
Never, never, could be.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I agree with that.
You served for your family.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
You served for the country.
You serve for your family.
You serve for the country.
You serve for your brother andsister in combat.
That's most important.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, you're serving for the person on the right and
left of you.
I mean, that's hands down, andI agree 100%.
Like me, personally, I willnever I will always be proud of
the way I've served you know,whatever we've done.

(36:11):
But I can't help think that youknow, you and I we came up in a
different world within thesewars that were small unit
leadership type worlds, yeah,and those worlds are different,
wars that were small unitleadership type worlds, and
those worlds are different.
Those worlds are a little bitdifferent because when you don't

(36:35):
have a tight-knit groups andteams, it's easier for your mind
to go in other places.
Indeed, and that's why I thinkit's absolutely absurd that the
statistics of suicides from whenthe withdrawal happened until
now is not provided.

(36:56):
I think that's in my mind.
That's a cover up.
In my mind, that's a cover up.
It's a political cover up.
I don't know if that's true ornot.
You know what I mean.
I'm not going to stake my claimon that, I'm not going to die
on that hill, but in my mind,that's where it rests.
It's a political cover-upbecause they don't want people
to know the truth about thatpolitically, and that's

(37:19):
horseshit, that's a disserviceto the veterans out there, and
it's people not holdingthemselves as politicians and
leaders not holding themselvesaccountable for mistakes that
were made, and it's teachingother leaders, future leaders,
to not hold themselvesaccountable for mistakes that
will be made.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
I appreciate the fact that you separate politicians
and leaders, because politiciansare not leaders.
They are no fucking leaders.
They're representatives of whowe are.
They're not our leaders.
I don't even're no fuckingrepresentatives of who we are.
They're not our leaders.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I don't even think they're representatives of who
we are.
They're representatives fromthemselves and themselves, only
the vast majority.
And I'll say this before we gotoo far down the pipe of
politicians.
I'm going to tell you I do notlike politicians A lot of them,
I'm not even going to say a lotof them.
There are some that start withnoble intent and they always end
with corruption.

(38:06):
And there are some that startwith corruption and end with
corruption, and that's how italways is.
The noble intent sometimes doesstart there, but then it just
sucks them in.
The corruption sucks them inbecause that's what you have to
do to hold power and it'sfucking horseshit.
It's horseshit.
And you know, the people don'treally have a voice and we
should.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
There's a guy who ran .
He's actually Loudoun Countyfella.

Speaker 1 (38:33):
What's his name?

Speaker 2 (38:35):
I don't know if I should say his name Hung Cao.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Oh yeah, you know Hung.
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm going to tryto get him here.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
I'll call him up, he'd Be great.
He ran for Congress, ran forSenate, and he was shot down.

Speaker 1 (38:48):
No, I'm going to Dan.
I'm going to tell you, when hewas running, I kept the.
So when you're going in to vote, they give you a.
I don't know what it's called,but it's a fake ballot basically
.
Yeah, up until the election.
Hung Kao I can't even like.

(39:11):
His marketing campaign wasamazing Text messages every day.
I mean like he was putting hisinformation out.
You knew what he was about.
You could very easily find whathis policies were this, that
and the other.
It was very simple to find andhe made that very.
Whoever was working hismarketing did a brilliant job.

(39:33):
Even when you're walking up andand to our district here to to
go vote, there was a QR code andyou all you do to hit that QR
code and says this is what Ilike, whatever, blah, blah, blah
, blah.
You want to know what hisopponent had.
Put your check mark here andthat was it.

(39:55):
And that tells me something youknow.
That tells me something thatyou know what they knew.
He wasn't going to win and itwasn't because people weren't
going to vote for him.
Hands down, just put your checkmark here.
You don't have to know what mypolicies are, just put it right

(40:17):
here.
And I kept those.
I have them upstairs, man.
I have them, and I kept themfor that reason, because I was
amazed.
I was like, look at this, thisdude's laying it all out, this
is what I'm about.
And then this motherfucker I'mnot gonna say her name, but uh,
yeah, she's still there.
Um, yeah, just put your check.

(40:38):
Just make sure you check itright here by my name.
That was it, and it's like fuckyou, dude.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Do you remember when nancy pelosi was speaker of the
house and there was a bill goingthrough and it was like 3 000
pages of this bill and peoplewere wondering what's in it?
And she says, no, we just haveto pass it and then we will find
out what's in it, which is putyour check right here.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Yeah, man, oh, right now, Before I say this, I'm
going to say real clearly Idon't agree with everything that
MTG says, but what she didyesterday I absolutely agree
with.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
Oh pulling the thing to pull the Speaker of the House
out.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
They didn't even have 72 hours.
They had I think it was like 30some odd hours to go over 1,000
pages over a bill.
That's over a trillion dollarsand that's bullshit, man.
If people don't think thatwe're getting thrown under butt,

(41:44):
under the bus with that bill,they are sadly mistaken.
They are sadly mistaken.
And and if they, if peoplethink just for a second that
what they're presenting to youthat, oh, this is what this is
going to do, that that's what'sgoing to actually do and all the
hidden stuff behind it sadlymistaken man I'd submit this
seven.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
If one is in a relationship where there's a
male or female, male or male,female, female, I don't give a
fuck.
But if you're in a relationshipand there's a partnership and
you have a budget that you liveby based upon the income that
you earn and one of your membersin your partnership just spends

(42:25):
the hell out of it and theydon't tell you right, it's like
yeah, I've committed you to this, this, this and this.
We have $1 million worth of debt.
Holy crap.
We only make $500 a year, yeah,and we still have this, this,
this, and they keep that up.
Would you actually continue inthat relationship If you

(42:48):
couldn't see what they werespending it on?
And they continue to spend in afashion.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Well, it depends on, like, for me, it would depend on
how good she looked, what shewas buying, see, like the minks.
I mean, if she was like threeminutes, she put us like $5
million in debt and I'd be like,all right, okay, I'll go to
jail for a couple of years.

(43:14):
I got this babe, I got this,let's do this.
But, um, I'm not taking thataway from what you're saying
Cause I, I, I'm not taking thataway from what you're saying
because I agree, 100%, 100%.
And like, what's going on, it'sgoing to affect everything that
we do, everything our kids do.
There are things in bills thatget put right underneath our

(43:35):
noses.
We never even know about.
That we're paying for, and it'slike man, I don't want to.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Our kids will pay for it.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Yeah, don't want my, my hard-earned money.
I do not want it going to thisbullshit period so do you
remember when uh, what's thatguy's name?

Speaker 2 (43:57):
trump was in office and every day there was like a
ticker on the bottom of themainstream media news outlets
about how much the national debtwas that Trump was putting in?
And then the other one was howmany deaths there were in COVID
Every day, every hour, everysecond.

(44:19):
That updated by state.
But they can't even count thevotes in America effectively for
like six months, but they cancount how many deaths there were
due to COVID, which is likebullshit.
But everything that Trump didwas ripped across like here's
our debt.
He put us this much in debt,this much in debt.

(44:41):
We don't hear anything aboutthis current administration, how
much they're putting us in debt.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
Well, I mean, trump didn't do himself any favors by
so he's from Brooklyn.
Well, I mean, here's the thing,the way our society is right
now, like it or not like it,touchy-feely man and um, if you

(45:09):
can project something andproject, uh, something bad about
someone to get people to hatesomebody, then that's, that's
the easy way to do things nowand that's.
You know, trump didn't dohimself any favors by.
If he would have just shut hisfucking mouth, if he would have
just did that, things would be alot better.

(45:30):
I don't, I mean, I'm going tosay this right now.
People that I know will hate mefor this, but I don't care,
because it's what I believe.
Do I think Trump has betterpolicies?
Absolutely.
Do I think he's the best thingto get elected right now?
Fuck no.
It'll rip our country right inhalf like we've never seen it

(45:52):
before.
Do I think Biden?
Yeah, and do I think Bidenshould be elected?
Fuck no.
That's like a capital, fuck no.
So who's that?
Leave us know what I mean.
Um, but well, I've investedhighly and deeply and depends so
but, but seriously, we've been,we've, we have all been put

(46:15):
into a position where we shouldnot have to be, as american
people and american citizens andour politicians have put us
there.
They have all put us there bygetting people to hate each
other, by creating divide.
This political divide that wehave in our country right now is
something that has never beenseen before, ever Correct, and

(46:38):
it's bullshit, man.
It's absolutely horseshit andthat's not how we take care of
problems.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
We will never so what do you think about?
Um don can you pull up likewhat do you need a, an id card,
to do in the united states ofamerica?
Oh yeah, and what you know how?

Speaker 1 (46:56):
racist.
Yeah, you know how I'm gonnatell you.
I had this conversation withjosh the other day, the guy I
was telling you about, and hedidn't see it this way until I
explained it to him.
He's like look man, people aretalking about systematic racism.
Some people say it exists, Somepeople say it doesn't exist.

(47:16):
The people that are saying itexists, they're pointing people
in the wrong direction, becauseit absolutely 100% exists, but
they're pointing people in thewrong direction of where it
exists.
What systematic racism is isthis you don't have to have an
ID to vote, but you got to havean ID to have a gun.

(47:38):
If people don't think thatthat's systematic racism,
they're fucking high, Becausewhat they're saying is you know
what minority.
You don't need an ID to vote,but guess what?
You ain't getting no fuckinggun.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Ah, Supreme Court just said that's not the case.
But that's what they're tryingto do though.
Yeah, but illegal immigrantsnow are protected under the
Second Amendment, they can haveweapons.
Yeah, but illegal immigrantsnow are protected under the
Second Amendment, they can haveweapons.
So they say for an ID, you haveto have an ID to rent a car,
you have to have an ID to get ona plane, you have to have an ID
to vote.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
No.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
I'm sorry not to vote To buy a gun to buy alcohol.
So the list of things what youdon't need an ID for.
You't need an ID.
You need an ID card to get alibrary card at a Loudoun County
library.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
My ID card, which is a driver's license from the
state of Virginia, is crackedand broken and I put Scott's
tape over it because I don'tcare to go to the DMV and deal
with their shit.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Rigger's tape.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
So I can't rent a car because of that.
So I throw out all sorts ofother IDs.
I'm like, hey, here's an ID,here's an ID, here's a
state-issued ID orgovernment-issued ID, they don't
matter.
I'm like, really, so I can'trent a car, here's my American
Express Black.
I can't rent a car.

Speaker 1 (49:05):
No yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
But I could go vote.
I don't need an ID.
It's fucking nuts dude.
Do you remember in Iraq duringthe elections?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Yeah, the little fingerprint shit.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, so there was no in Iraq.
There was no like you call inyour vote.
No, there was rack.
There was no like you call inyour vote.
There was no like I can voteearly.
There was no internet vote, ifyou recall, they all stood in
line and they walked up and theyshowed their ids and they voted
and we stuck their littlefucking finger, or their this

(49:37):
finger, into a purple ink andthen they moved along yeah, I'm
starting to think that that wasall fucking bullshit.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
Now, after seeing our stuff.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Yeah.
So America says that's the wayyou do a true democracy.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
Yeah, you know the election stuff.
Here's what we need to do, dan,because if I go down this road,
the revolution no, no, no, no,I'm not.
You know what?
Americans don't need to beagainst Americans.
No, you know, like, what weneed to do is we need to unfuck
ourselves and we need to tellthese politicians fuck off.

(50:19):
And we need to get more peoplespeaking out about it.
Don't be scared.
That's the problem is, peopleare scared, and why are they?
They have every reason to bescared because they're either
going to be canceled, the IRS iscoming after them, they're
going to be put in jail, the FBIis going to plant fucking child
porn on their computer, who thefuck knows?
Because all the corruption.
But you know what?

(50:40):
If, if?
Strength in numbers, if peoplejust start speaking up and
saying, no, fuck you, man, Idon't want to be divided, I love
being an American, I love everyAmerican, and you know what?
Anyone, any immigrant thatcomes here legally, I'm going to
love them too, but there has tobe a process for that too,
legally.
Legally that's what I'm sayingLegally, if people just stand,

(51:07):
stand and all that makes sense.
All that makes sense, insteadof like taking sides with this
and doing stuff that doesn'tmake sense just because you have
to take sides.
Fuck that.
That's so dumb.
It's so fucking dumb.
Man, like this whole covid shitdude, all the stuff that's
coming out with COVID of how allthe conspiracy theories are
actually.
We're actually right.
The FDA is coming out andapologizing Now this, that and

(51:29):
the other.
It's like you motherfuckers.
How many people do you cancelfor that?
How many people lost their jobs?
How many people lost theirlives Because you and the media
said this person was spreadingbad shit?
And here it is.
It's the truth, truth andapology doesn't do a damn thing,
man how many military memberswere told they have?

Speaker 2 (51:50):
to leave the service and then the military comes back
, dod comes back.
Knows uh, yeah, sorry, uh, ifyou want to come back in, you
can come back in, however comma.
And then they they make theseparameters of coming back in
like they're gifting you to comeback in.
Fuck off man.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Exactly, man.
I'll tell you, like all this,my intent is not to go down this
rabbit hole, because I'm goingto tell you Dan Minx will tell
you I'm pretty passionate onthis rabbit hole.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
You are.
I think you should stop and goback to the nonprofit, please.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Okay, the minx has spoken Very well.
But what I was trying to say wasthis is there is going to be a
time where I do want to diveinto these sensibly and I'd like
to have you back.
When we do do that, and I'dlike to have a lot of people
back to dive into that, I'llwear my tri-corner hat, yeah

(52:47):
Well, the thing is is likediscourse you have to have
discourse, okay.
So I know where your beliefsreside, I know where mine reside
and I know a lot of my friendsthat their beliefs reside on the
other side of that.
Friends, that their beliefsreside on the other side of that

(53:09):
, and we should not be afraidany of us to sit in a room and
talk about that, and you knowwhat.
Maybe it gets a little heated.
Okay, that's cool, but justlisten to each other, because
maybe there's a learning, maybethere's a learning point there,
maybe there's something that Idon't know and I never thought
about, maybe there's something Iguarantee there's something
they didn't think about.
But it's all about perspectives,man.

(53:29):
It's about okay, this is myperspective of what's going on
here and this is the reason why.
What is your perspective?
And talking about that, ifpeople don't do that, we're
fucking hosed man.
We're hosed, we're hosed andwe're going to go to the point
of no return on it.
That's just the way it's goingto be.
We've got to tackle it likethat, man.

(53:49):
And let's just be honest, man,mainstream media is not going to
do that.
All they're going to do is dotheir agenda to make money and
they're never going to Becauseit's about money.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
It's 100% about money , but let's talk about this
nonprofit.
So nonprofit, one GodFoundation, yes, one God
Foundation.
So you told me, before we getto that, though, ketamine, yeah,
we had talked about a ketamine,and so I know the guys for the
38 Challenge and I think they'recalled what is it?

(54:24):
Brain Lab?
Brain Lab, yeah, brain Lab iswhat they're starting.
Yeah, but they are looking intotreatments, much like that.
That's why I think you shouldlink up with them and I can put
you guys together.
That would be awesome, but I'minterested to know in any way.

(54:45):
Here's what.
I'm not interested when itcomes to vets anybody with brain
injury, specifically vetsbecause I hold that close to my
heart, just like you do.
I am not interested in going tothe VA and the VA giving you
drugs and keeping you on thosedrugs for the rest of your life,
because that's what they do.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
So the VA system is now going to the point where
they're going to talk aboutpsilocybin and the use of MDMA
to treat PTS post-traumaticstress and some people call it
post-traumatic stress disorderor disease, and I don't believe
it is either a disorder nordisease.
I think it is more of anillness PTSI illness and so so

(55:33):
what?

Speaker 1 (55:33):
what makes you feel the the VA like if I were to go
to the local office?
Let's just say I live inKentucky somewhere and I go to
the local VA and I have PTS andyou know I'm diagnosed with that
.
What is going to prevent themfrom sending me to big med and

(55:53):
and getting prescriptions outthe wazoo for the rest of my
life?
Because that's what's beenhappening and it's been
dangerously happening, and it'sall due to pharma, big pharma,
bullshit.
And I'll tell you, dan, like thewhole tons of friends, you have
tons of friends too that thishas happened to or is happening,

(56:14):
where they get you on a drugand then that drug somehow later
down the road is fucked up andnow, oh shit, man, we've got, we
got to change it and now we gotto put you on this one, and
then 30 years later, you've beenon drugs for 30 fucking years.
It's affected your body in abillion different ways adversely

(56:35):
, whether that's putting onweight, depression, this, that
and the other Like what.
How do we combat that with theVA?
How do we make that not happenanymore with the VA?

Speaker 2 (56:53):
Yeah, so I would have to step out of the entire VA
system as it is.
In a perfect world, the VAwould allow veterans to obtain
medical care like they do theillegal immigrants that come
across the border.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
By their own choice right, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
So it's like hey man, I can't make it to the VA
clinic that's in Martinsburg.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
I can't, because it's like six months for me to get
there.
I'm going to end up scatteringmy gray matter all over the
inside of my fucking car.
So can I please go to thisplace here?
No, you can't.
You got to wait and see somekid who's just gone internship
through whatever.
However, comma, this illegalimmigrant can come in and get
all these things and go out, orsomeone else can go in.

(57:40):
So I think the VA has to change.
The VA started, if you know,from World War I.
It started as a way to helpveterans, but it has to evolve,
it has to change.
But with most US governmentsystems, most US government
organizations, they become sobig that they're self-producing

(58:01):
and corrupt, yeah.
So what has to happen is theyhave to step back.
Someone has to be in charge ofthe va and say you know what?
What we need to do here is weneed to like break it all down
and say what's the best thingfor the veterans?
Not the best thing to keep thissystem moving and make my six

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hundred thousand dollars a yearas a VA director of VA.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
Well, dan, what would you say about this idea?
Maybe it exists, maybe they'vetalked about it, and I'm a dumb
ass.
Why couldn't they?
Why couldn't they move the VAfrom being federal to state?
Like, look, if you were aveteran and you live in virginia
, you file with the virginia vabecause it's smaller.

(58:52):
The elections mean more locally, corruption's not going to be
as bad.
It'll exist.
It's not going to be as bad.
But but when it's federal,that's when the corruption
happens, that's when all youhave all these assholes that are
big pharma coming in and saying, oh shit, man, yep, look, I

(59:13):
have given you this.
However many millions ofdollars for your campaign, you
better fucking pass this bill.
If you do that at the statelevel, you're kind of taking
some of that shit away, becauseBig Pharma can't control all.
They cannot control all 50states.
There's going to be some statesthat stand up and say, oh fuck,
no, no, fuck you, we're notdoing that.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Well, I hadn't thought of that in that aspect,
and I not for nothing don'tagree because we're veterans of
the United States of America Now, veterans of the state of
vagina or the state of Marylandor state of wherever right.
Oh sorry, virginia.
So I think it's a federalresponsibility.
However, I do feel the federalresponsibility should look at

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the VA and say you've grown toobig and we need to neck it down.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
And maybe give some back to the state, maybe federal
funding comes.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
But something's got to get done.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
All right, so we'll go back, if I could step back a
heartbeat to.
I suffered from PTS for a longtime.
I suffered from PTS for a longtime.
I've done 40 plus years withinthe US military and as a
contractor to both DOD and OGA,doing stuff all over the world,

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and it's impacted me.
It has.
It's just been whatever.
I've been blown up a coupletimes.
I've been this, I've been that.
I haven't been shot, but Ihaven't been stabbed and thanks,
it's not a wooden table.
I'll probably get shot tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
No, there's wood in there, man.
Oh, is it Okay cool.
It's just like 90 pounds ofepoxy too.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
Acrylic epoxy on top of it, 90 gallons.
Yeah, so I have suffered and Ido suffer PTS.
And for me I grew up in aviolent life Every solution to

(01:01:21):
any problem I ever had in mylife as a child and growing up
as an adolescent teenager in mymiddle adult life solutions were
violence, straight up.
That was it.
Everything was solved byviolence.
It worked.
For me it worked outstanding.
And in the Marine Corps theypaid me to do that and then the
government paid me Dan, smashthose big like they make the

(01:01:46):
Hulk.
And then as a contractor iteven worked even better because
I made better money and I couldlike do better shit.
However, comma, it was notconducive to a mental stability,
got it.
So I was a not stableindividual.
I went to counseling.

(01:02:07):
In fact, haji Lala pointed metowards a counselor and I got
evaluated by this one guy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Right, because Haji we need to have him on here, by
the way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yep, my brother Haji.
So I went to this one guy andbecause you know where we used
to work, it was like you couldonly go to certain psychiatrists
.
Because here's the other thingin the military and when one
works as a contractor or for thegovernment, if one says, hey, I
need help because I'm having amental issue, you're

(01:02:37):
automatically red flagged, yeah,as someone unstable you can
deploy, you can't do shit.
But what you're doing is like Ithink I need a little bit of
help.
Right, so I'm still effective,but you put me in this situation
, yep, so help me out.
I got a rock in my shoe.

(01:02:58):
Help me, take the rock out ofmy shoe.
If you don't, I'll keep goingwith this rock in my shoe, but
it's going to hurt me more andmore and more and then it's
ultimately going to hurteverybody yeah, so what they say
?
well, once you identify that,they're like oh, that guy's a
problem, that gal's a problem,whatever.
Right, like, no, motherfucker,I'm not the problem, the problem

(01:03:18):
is of rock.
Help me get the rock that youput in my shoe.
Yep, help me get that out, anyAnyhoo.
So we have approved in theplace we used to work, approved
psychiatrists that we could gosee on a list.
So I went and saw this guy andit takes a lot for us to open up

(01:03:39):
to someone.
So I open up this freaking guybecause Haji said do it, and
he's my brother and we've beenthrough a lot together.
And he says you know, hey, yougot to go do this.
So I went and I talked to thisguy, I opened up to him.
He's like okay, and he had metake this test.
Right, fucking whatever test,right, I take this test.

(01:04:02):
He has me come back and heevaluates me Severe PTS, severe
depression, severe, this severe,that blah, blah, blah, anger
issues and whatever, what.
No, I'm like, dude, I'll throwyou right the fuck out that
window.
Anger issues.
You know, you figure that outafter a couple pieces of paper

(01:04:23):
and this, that, and he goes.
Actually, that's your response,is why I would do that.
Anyway, I say, okay, where dowe start counseling?
He goes no, I don't docounseling, I just do
evaluations.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
So you've got to find someone else.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
So now I have to open up to another person.
Yeah, that's bullshit AfterI've already spread my legs to
this guy, I've got to do itagain to someone else, right?
Not a good thing.
That's not how it's supposed towork.
Well, yeah, it's how it shouldnot work, right?
So, years later, I'm stillsuffering.
I'm still a very volatile,angry person and a friend of

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mine calls me up and goes man,I'm doing this IV ketamine
therapy treatment.
Another veteran, you got to trythis.
I'm like, yeah, fuck that right.
I don't do drugs.
I'm not, you know, doing that.
I did it a long time ago youhad your shot with it I did.
I had a great time uh, prior to,so prior to my polygraphs.
So, um, I'm not doing that, youknow, I just don't do.

(01:05:30):
I know what it does to you.
He goes no, you gotta try this.
Blah, blah, blah.
So I go to, uh, uh, california,the left coast, and I see
someone and I go through an, anIV ketamine therapy treatment.
There are certain triggers thatI know that I can actually

(01:05:53):
activate those triggers.

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Right, it's just easy for me.
I can say things, I can dothings Activate triggers that
make me want to like, poppeople's heads off like
dandelions.
If you ever played that game,my mama had a baby and his head
popped off right and you pop offdandelions.
Anyway, that's how I would feeland I could get myself that
point.

(01:06:15):
So I did this iv ketaminetherapy treatment and it's a
true intake.
It's like a true clinical thing.
You meet an MD, an LCSWlicensed clinical social worker.
You do all of the paperwork.
It's legit man, it's not one ofthose.
Here's a like the VA gives younasal spray.

(01:06:38):
It's not that you don't evenknow what you're squirting up
your nose Yep.
And it's not the pills thatthey give you in lockup where
you can crush up.
Lockup, did I say lockup In theclink?
It's not those pills they giveyou, it's nothing like that.
This is a true, it's an IVthing, amazing shite.

(01:07:03):
I went in for this treatmentand uh, it's, it's not a trip,
it's not like an lsd trip, it'snot something weird, like
there's no timothy leary shit.
Uh, afterwards I came out of it.
I felt kind of at peace.

(01:07:25):
I actually tried to activatethe trigger that would make me
angry four hours after thetreatment, because I'm an
analyst and an anal-sist.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
I say that too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
It didn't activate and then the next day I tried to
do it again, pull the triggerup, and it didn't happen.
I'm like holy moly.
So I went through threetreatments of this.
While I was out there inCalifornia I called my spouse
and we were like at loggerheadsman and I called my spouse up

(01:08:02):
and she said this is the manthat I want in my life.
This is a man that I've beenmissing, not the violent.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
The man she had originally met.
Yeah, I've never been.
To be clear, I've never beenviolent to my wife.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
I never uh struck a woman or a child, I'll take it
out on, uh, grown adult malesbecause that's, you know, that's
like the challenge.
I'd be cool and shit, um, inwhatever fashion, but I've never
, ever hurt someone like that.

(01:08:42):
But she said this is the guy Iwant.
Where have you been?
So I've done four treatments ofIV ketamine therapy.
Our nonprofit is actuallyopening a clinic here in
Virginia, yes, and what we wishto do is sponsor veterans to go

(01:09:02):
to these clinics.
So we figure, now that it'sgoing to open in Virginia, it's
going to be a whole lot lessexpensive.
If I've sent you to Californiaor another place, I figured it
costs about 10 grand per veteran.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
And it's a week.
So what we're going to do issend a veteran out there, no
cost to the vet, right, we'llput you up, give you housing,
feed you, transportation.
You go through the ketamine.
You go through acupuncture.
You go through I know everybody, but TJ would think it's weird
you go through yoga.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
You know what Yoga?
I'm kind of a believer now.
Everybody but TJ would thinkit's weird.
You go through yoga.
You know what Yoga?
I'm kind of a believer now.
Yep, yoga, even though I can'tdo it and I don't do it, I am a
believer.
I want to do goat yoga, by theway.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
I got goats.
I got goats and lambs.
Man, you got to speak in themicrophone.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Can we come to the hom Yoga Goats and lambs?
Man, you got to speak in themicrophone.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Can we come to the homestead and do Goat Yoga?
Please come to the homestead.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
We got a yogi?
We do.
We got a yogi Bearer?
No, she's a yogi.
Our neighbor is a yogainstructor.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
Yeah, and then we can have the animals just climbing
on us.
It would be amazing.
Yeah, be amazing.
Yeah, that's yeah, and I'lltake video of it.
We have chickens too.
We have a cow.
I don't think you want that toclimb on you cow yoga.
Oh, I will do the cow yoga.
We have a calf.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
It just dropped actually now, if a cow stood on
my back, would it kill me?

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
yeah, it would kill you really.
Yeah, it's pretty heavy okay.

Speaker 1 (01:10:32):
So how could we, how could we work cow yoga into this
?
I feel like this could be amoney maker you need to get the
little mini highland cows.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
No, he's got a calf but I don't want to do calf yoga
.
Maybe I do yoga on top of thecow if she'll stay still yeah
look here karma, so one of themost badass individuals I've
ever known in my entire life wasthis guy named tj that pussy.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
I was just and, uh, I'm gonna send this to him.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
He was an amazing warrior, an amazing man, he
still is, he hasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
No, he has not changed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
He did change.
So the TJ that was the angryalmost 275 pound.
Rip your head off, tj.
Oh no, I mean he's not likethat, down to call sign hippie.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Yeah, like he's still , though.
I mean he's still jumping outof airplanes and being TJ.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
That's TJ.
Yeah, that's TJ.
Yeah, that's TJ.
However, tj was a really PTSguy, right?
Yeah, tj's going to be going.
Dude, you got to do yoga, man,I'm like what.
So the only guy I knew who everdid like wore yoga pants and
yoga shoes on on missions anddude.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
so right when, right when, uh, tj well, I think it
probably was a couple yearsafter tj made his transition
into hippieism.
Um, I was, I was in the marketto buy a new car and he was
trying to convince me to get aSubaru Crosstrek and I was like,

(01:12:17):
oh, I mean, tj's a tough dude,he's telling me to get a.

Speaker 2 (01:12:21):
It's like a lesbian vehicle.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yeah yeah.
So here I'm thinking.
I even went and asked the minks.
I went and looked at them and Iwas like man, women drive these
cars.
Why is he telling me to get aSubaru Crosstrek?
Oh, tj, you bastard, I'msending this to you.

(01:12:44):
You are going to hear thispodcast and hear your name in
vain.
Damn you, tj, I didn't get thatSubaru.
Damn you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
On the objective in his yoga pants and yoga shoes.
So anyway, so the nonprofitfrom the veteran side, that's
what we want to do.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Man, I tell you what like that is good medicine.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
That's not prescription drugs, big pharma.
Don't ever let big pharma get ahold of this either.
Fuck them.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
So the other thing we do and I've done this, I've got
to throw this one out there sowe do this thing called Toast to
the Fallen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
I have a little bit of video I will put at the end
of this, of the Toast to theFallen that I saw you guys do,
but I just have to interrupt you, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Cool, following that, I saw you guys do, but, uh, I
just have to interrupt.
You go ahead, cool.
So in 2014, um, as a veteran,right?
Uh, you hear, on memorial day,people come up the if you buy
this car, you get 300 off and afree balloon, or you buy this
mattress and you get a hot dogor some crap like that.
Right, like the, thecapitalizing, monetizing

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Memorial Day.
And then they say to us asveterans like, hey, man, thank
you for your service.
And I would respond like youknow, I'm not dead, right.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Yeah, there are those that have been thanked.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
You've got to save your thank yous until the day
after the birth of our belovedCorps, which is when you can say
thank you to me.
So I got pissed In 2014,.
I was, at that time, nationalpresident of a veterans
motorcycle club called the Menof War Motorcycle Club.

(01:14:34):
Great, great club, great guys,great mission.
So I bought a dog tag machineand I told my guys in the
chapter here in Virginia we'regoing to memorialize all the
veterans who have fallen.
So we went to at the time inWarrington, virginia, it was a

(01:14:57):
place called McMahon's it's nowcalled O'Brien's and we hooked
them up.
It's an Irish pub, right.
We got all these vendors toshow up and do their 10x10
pop-ups and stuff like that.
I didn't want any of their money, just be there, sell whatever
T-shirts and what have you.
And what I did was I put it onFacebook and other social media

(01:15:20):
that if you had ever lost aveteran, whether you be a spouse
or a brother or sister, itdoesn't really matter and it
don't have to be in combat.
If you ever lost someone whoserved in the military, send me,
fill out this form and send itto me.
Name rank you know, typicallike a dog tag, and I would make
a dog tag.
And if you come to my event,come see me and I'll make dog

(01:15:45):
tags.
Sean came out.
We made them for Lex, we madethem for all the guys, right?

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
I love that man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Yeah, from ground, and I'd have people sit with me
at the table as I'd make the dogtags.
So it's, it's one of thosemachines where you're like it's
from China, they don't makeAmerican ones, you know.
So I'm like, well, they do.
It's cost $8,000.

(01:16:10):
It's computerized.
This is like spin the dial,make it, and I'd have you sit
with me.
I'm like, tell me about thisguy that you lost, who's your
brother.
I don't want to hear hismilitary record, I want to hear
about them.
I want to hear about theirlaugh.
I want to hear about you knowthe goofy shit they did, how

(01:16:30):
they sang stupid songs, or so.
I'd feel your emotions.
It'd come through me into themachine and I'd pound out the
tag and I'd give you one.
I'm like this is for you tomemorialize this day, and I'd
make another one and I'm goingto hang it from the combat cross
that I'd make.
And then, every 30 minutes orso, I'd stop the music.

(01:16:53):
I'd tell everybody take yourcovers off, charge your glasses,
and I'd read the names off.
Yeah, I love that, and then I'dtoast it to Valhalla I love it
man.
So here's something thathappened to me.
This is what makes it soemotional, so gripping for me.
This one girl comes up and shegoes will you make a dog tag for

(01:17:14):
my dad?
I'm like, sure, darling, sitdown.
I gave her the piece of paperand she started filling it out.
She fills it out.
I'm like, sit with me.
So I go to make the tag.
I'm like, tell me about yourdad.
She goes my mom was pregnantwith me.
Wow, my dad went to Vietnam andhe was killed.

(01:17:35):
I'm like, well, this is going tobe difficult.
I said, tell me what yourmother told me about your dad.
So she did, and I made two dogtags, and I made her one, and I
took the other one and said I'mgoing to call his name out, I'm
going to hang.
Have a guy hang it on thecombat cross for you.
She goes okay.
30 minutes later I stopped themusic, I stand up, I grab the

(01:17:58):
mic, tell everybody to chargeyour glasses.
We actually had the Fireballgirls, fireball shots and shit.
I got them from the distributorthe Jaeger girls.
Yeah, I would have done Jaeger,but Fireball was like a
disgusting drink that we wouldhave.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
I mean Jaeger's not that great.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
Let's just be honest here, two of them together like
burn it, cool it Anyway.
So this girl's standing overhere outside the barrier.
I'm getting ready to read thename.
She goes can you read this?
When you read my dad's name,I'm like, come on over here.
So the brothers, my club, hadher come around.
I put her under my arm.
I brothers, my club, had hercome around.

(01:18:37):
I put her under my arm.
I'm like, yeah, honey.
So she gives me this piece ofpaper.
I'm like, all right, cool.
So I'm going through the namesand reading the list of the dead
, I get to her dad's name and Iread it.
And then I stop and I go hey,everybody, this young lady here,
her father went to Vietnam andshe was in her mother's belly
when her father was killed inVietnam.
I just read his name and shegave me this piece of paper to

(01:19:02):
read.
I want you to pay attention towhat she has.
I don't know what it is, butshe gave this to me.
All right, I open it up and Ilook at it and I turn to her and
I go number one, I fucking hateyou for what you're about to do
to me, what you have done.
And she curls up under my armand I'm like number two any of

(01:19:25):
you people who laugh at me, forwhen I start crying I'll meet
you in the parking lot.
Because this is a letter thatthis young lady wrote to her
father when she was 10 years oldand she understood.
And she wrote to her daddy Wow,that she never knew was killed
in Vietnam, dear Daddy, and Iread this letter for this young

(01:19:53):
girl and there's about100-something bikers and
veterans and all of them arelike oh man, smokes, smokes, get
in my eyes.
And I just hugged this girl andshe was.
The emotion was just so amazing.
And I've done it.
Last year I did it at thePentagon parking lot.

(01:20:14):
I'm going to do it again at thePentagon parking lot this year
for Memorial Day weekend and Idid Gold Star Moms and Gold Star
Wives guys who've come up to meand said my brother took his
life on this date, will you makea dog tag?
And on those I always put a 22at the bottom of the dog tag and

(01:20:38):
I sound it off.
It's a passion of mine to neverforget them, always say their
name.
So it's a toast to the fallen.
It's part of the One GodFoundation and we do it all
through donations.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Dude, I feel like every little thing that we're a
part, like we just did the wholefire engine pull and what did
we do after that?
We did the 38 challenge and wedid the cycle for survival.
I feel like any of these thingsthat we do, we need to tell you

(01:21:16):
to see if we can get you in todo your thing there, too.
A lot of the thing like thecycle for survival is to raise
money for cancer, and their bigthing is they raise millions of
dollars for this fund for cancerresearch.

(01:21:39):
Their big thing is to figureout how to fix cancer.
But there's also a lot ofstories that you hear there
about people that didn't make it, and I think this type of stuff
would gravitate with them,Because everyone that goes there
they understand what life isand when it's taken away, how

(01:22:04):
important that is, and I thinksomething like this figuring out
how to incorporate that intothese type of events and
whenever Carrie and I or theMinx and I are involved with
that, we'll definitely try topull you in on that.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Do you know, when I was still cops at the office, I
had cancer.
I heard a rumor, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:22:31):
I heard a rumor, lyle came.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Farrell, lyle.
I love her by the by.
I miss rumor Lyle came, farrellLyle.
I love her by the by.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
I miss her.

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
She's an awesome awesome person.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
I really miss her.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
Very professional, she's so cool.
And she caught me because myspouse had bought me all these
jade things, right, like a jadeelephant, this, that, and I had
them in the office.
And she comes in, she goes, shegoes.
Oh, one of those.
And I was working one day, Iwas doing the scheduling and the
whole bit and I'm like, oh,this is cool, he's, my wife

(01:23:04):
bought this and this and this.
She says it, it will help mewith my cancer.
And I didn't mean to say it andshe said what did you say?
Say, I'm like she goes, did yousay.
And she shut the door in myoffice.
I'm like, oh, I am so screwedBecause if anybody knows feral,

(01:23:25):
you do not want to be feral likea cat, you do not want to be in
a room with her when she'spissed.
And she was upset and sheshowed such emotion which I
wasn't prepared for or used to.
You know, I'm like, yeah, I havecancer, I've stage 3 cancer,

(01:23:47):
and she was just super likeupset with me I hadn't told
people.
I'm like, well, you knownothing, I got cancer.
You ain't got fucking cancer, Igot cancer, so let me deal with
it.
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
yeah, again, that's who we are right, but still, I
mean, my fucking people don'tunderstand.
People don't understand like I.
That's not something I wouldwant people to know either.

Speaker 2 (01:24:09):
Yeah, so yeah, so for gosh, I've been, like I said,
uh, blown up, stabbed, hadassassinated, almost
assassinated, a milliondifferent one things.
The worst part things I'veassociated were getting shot at

(01:24:31):
by snipers because you neverknow, or when it's know, when
you get a shot at right ormortar attacks or rocket attacks
right Because you just like bebopping along going to Burger
King and next thing, you know,you get in strife.

Speaker 1 (01:24:48):
You know, I always thought I was like no, I never
wanted that to happen.
But I always thought like if Iget hit with a mortar or a
rocket, I think it's my time togo and it would happen nothing
there's nothing I can do aboutit.
It's just nothing.
Yep, and I mean I can run forcover.
I could do, but if I get, if Idie for a minute, but with like

(01:25:10):
an ied or something, oh, oh, Igot a cool story about like
rocket attack.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
but that's some.
So then I was diagnosed withcancer.
I'm like huh, Like, where'dthat come from?

Speaker 1 (01:25:26):
Yeah, I'm not actually prepared for that I've
got to go do a checkup here soon, like I did a blood work last
week, I think it was.
Yeah, I did blood work lastweek, did think it was.
Yeah, I did blood work lastweek.
Did I tell you that?
Anyways, blood pressure washigh, yeah, high blood pressure.
I've never had high bloodpressure, but whatever.
But I'm waiting.

(01:25:48):
I'm nervous because I know that, like we were talking about
before with, like Agent Orangeand everything we were exposed
to, I'm just waiting.
I'm just like I know it'scoming down the pipe, something
All I can do is just be healthyand just be like you know what.
I'm going to just fucking beatthis, but I'm just, you know,

(01:26:11):
hopefully that never happens,but it's something to be nervous
about, especially if you werein Iraq and Afghanistan for
20-some odd years, you know whatI mean, as we were, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
You got to pick up something, whatever it might be.

Speaker 1 (01:26:29):
I mean, I never really got sick.
I had a toothache once.
Oh yeah, they wanted to send meto some Afghan dentist.
I was like, just give me anantibiotic.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
Is that at work?

Speaker 1 (01:26:43):
Yeah, I was like look , I'm telling you what the
problem is.
I have a tooth infection, Giveme an antibiotic, but we need to
send you to a dentist out intown.
No, I'm not going to a dentistout in town.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
You don't go to the dentist in the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
Well, they try to rip me off.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
I can relate to that.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
They try to rip me off.
I was going, you know what?
I started liking the dentistand then the bitch started
trying to rip me off.
So I was like, nope, I'm done.
This is why I don't come to youpeople.
You try to rip me off.
If my teeth rot, I will replacethem.
There's technology now.

(01:27:28):
I will put fake ones in thereand be perfectly happy.
Look it, I've got some greatchiclets.

Speaker 2 (01:27:39):
They pulled a couple of my teeth out and I got like
holes in my head.
It's a bitch eating grapes orthings that like get stuck in
the holes, you know like.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
I will tell you my story off mic because I do not
want this to be out in the ether, but you'll get a kick out of
it all right, cool, yeah, youprobably didn't even know what's
happening because it was rightunder your nose no, actually.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Um, I'm fully aware of that one and, uh, we'll just
go with that because your smilewas so much brighter.
So, on the on the non-profitthe last, last part of the
nonprofit anti-human trafficking.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
Yes, so this is something that the human
trafficking thing, andespecially with children right
now.
The more you dig into it, themore you find and the more you
see how people just don't give afuck and it's so sad, it's like
why do we not give a fuck aboutthis?

Speaker 2 (01:28:44):
Do you think they don't care?
Or do you think they don'tunderstand?

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
I think the way we have been not programmed,
conditioned with media anddevices, is we have an attention
span of something important forabout three days, and I don't
know the statistics on that, butyou think something's important
for three days or whatever itis, and then you're off to the

(01:29:11):
next important thing, becausethat's what media, you know,
media and everybody else wantsyou to think and no one keeps on
it.
So you, you, you find this ohshit, this kid was abducted.
I'm pissed, blah, blah, blah.
Three days later you're like,oh, you forget about it.
And it's like dude, there's gotto be people out there that
keep pressing this, they keepputting this idea out there.

(01:29:34):
But the problem is is the media?
They don't do it, they roll offit.
Do you know?
I put a post up two weeks ago Iwas doing this thing called
headlines, before theirheadlines, and basically it's
just a one page, the front pageof a newspaper article, and it's
supposed to be 10 years in thefuture, and it's supposed to be
10 years in the future.

(01:29:55):
Satire, complete satire,nothing political in it, and I
put as the front headline youknow, 10 years later, epstein's
list still has not been releasedthe hate messages I got about
that, no kidding.
And it's like I was called aNazi, I was called a fascist and

(01:30:21):
it's like if there should besomething that brings people
together, it should be thisEverybody should care that.
There's some people, there'selites, there are people getting
away with trafficking humansand children.
People like, how could you notbe on the same page with this?

(01:30:42):
But again, the fucking mediadrives the narrative on
everything and those were themessages I was getting sent on
that and it's just like what thefuck is wrong with this man.
So, yeah, it takes really strongpeople people like you and some
of our friends that we knowthat go out there and do stuff

(01:31:03):
and recover kids all the time tokeep on it.
And you know what I?
I have the notion to just sayyou know what?
Fuck the public.
They're never going to care,because it's not that they're
bad people or anything, it'sjust their attention is going to
be brought away from it becauseof the way we've all been

(01:31:24):
conditioned with media.
And if people are reallypassionate, then you know what
that's.
My job with a platform on apodcast is to say, hey, if you
want to stay passionate aboutthis, here's this organization.
Contact them and roll with it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:43):
So for us, right.
So there's a lot oforganizations out there that
will do the door kicking andyeah, I'm going to save these
kids and, whether it be just forthe media or just whatever,
right, there's some really solidguys, especially from the
community, who go out there andthey help children, like
Veterans for Child Rescue.
It is a great organization.

(01:32:06):
And then there's others that doit to see what new Netflix
movie they could fucking makeright, okay cool.
So here's what I found.
The SEALs do that a lot newNetflix movie they could fucking
make right, okay, cool.
So here's what I found.
The SEALs do that a lot.
Hair gel, flip-flops.
So here's what I found inworking with the survivor
community.

(01:32:27):
Ah so I got involved inanti-human trafficking through a
complete ignorance.
And the ignorance for me wasI'm going to save people, I'm
going to help them and get themout of a war-torn environment.
Then I find out that US NGOs,nonprofits, are trafficking

(01:32:55):
minors and whether they know itor not I can't prove it.
I'm not going to speculatebecause it wasn't my gig man,
not my monkey, not my circus.
But when I identified it I'mlike hey, dude or ma'am, do you
know exactly what you're doing?
You can't take a child fromthis country and give them to a
person in another country,collect money for that.
That's, that's humantrafficking.

(01:33:17):
Like, oh, they got a betterlife.
I'm like you're a fucking moron, so that perhaps you're doing
it from a, from a really goodplace.
I'm not sure.
But the aftercare was my thing.
Like do you take, do youresearch where that child went
and do you keep in touch withthat family?
Do you keep in touch with thechild and are you prepared to

(01:33:41):
rescue that child from thefamily that you gave it to?
And you're like, no, once it'sdone, it's done.
I'm like, oh my gosh.
So my thing was there's plentyof organizations are out there.
Like I'm going to kick, kick inthe door and save 30 kids or
what have you.
You know, make belief, but mything is the aftercare aspect.

(01:34:03):
Whether it be someone who'strafficked as a child or
trafficked as an adult,trafficked by a family member or
a church, or they got intoprostitution, whatever, it's the
same thread.
So, if you look at One God,we're helping people from
oppressed societies, we'regiving them a sense of purpose

(01:34:27):
when they leave there, and we'retaking veterans who are all
screwed up and we're giving thema sense of purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
You're putting the puzzle pieces back together for
them and then survivors.
It's the same way.
It's like getting their lifeback together.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Giving them a sense of purpose.

Speaker 1 (01:34:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
So we bring them someplace.
So our goal is to have for allthree of those.
Our goal is and we're kind ofdoing what the veterans kind of
do we have a young lady thatwe're sponsoring at our home
right now who's uh pregnant andshe's giving up her child and
the whole bit part of our churchand we're taking care of her.
She's a sweetheart and, uh,we're gonna help her along her

(01:35:09):
way as well as a refugee thatwe're helping veterans will help
all fucking day long.
You know that's the point, butI need to give them purpose.
Yeah, I understand this purpose, because here's my God moment
in 20, after Lex was killed,2016.
So Lex was killed in 2016.

(01:35:29):
It was late 2016,.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
Yep, my dad passed in the beginning of 2016.
Lex was killed December 2016.
In 2017, 2018, I had just gonethrough my cancer treatment.
I was cancer-free and I wasriding into work one morning on
my bike my motorcycle, not abicycle Schwinn.

(01:35:55):
Bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
yeah, so I was riding in, and this is how I used to
commune with God.

Speaker 2 (01:36:01):
I'd ride in the sun's coming up 66 East, blast in on
my bike, say my prayers and Istart talking to God.
So I have a wonderful life.
I have a company that's makinggood money, I'm doing a really
good job and I'm responsible forsome great individuals doing

(01:36:25):
wonderful things for America.
I got a farm or homestead,children, grandchildren.
If someone looked at my lifefrom the outside, they're like
dude, that is so perfect.
I was a hollow fucking shell.
I was one of them.
Easter egg bunnies, chocolateon the outside it was absolutely

(01:36:45):
zero inside.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
I hate those Easter egg bunnies too.
They're so disappointing.

Speaker 2 (01:36:51):
I like Cadbury eggs myself.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
I mean, I do too, but the hollow.
Sorry to sidetrack, but Hollow.

Speaker 2 (01:36:58):
Part of that, exactly , and that's what I was.
That's what I felt.
I was hollow, hollow.
I had no sense of purpose.
So, as I rode my motorcycle inthe east, heading towards our
office, and I communed with God,god, I said I'm done, I give up

(01:37:20):
and I give myself to you andyou need to take over, because
I'm fucking done.
I'll park this bike on the sideof the road and I'll strip
naked and I'll walk on the pointof south of america, which
would be scary for everybodyaround me, and I would walk down
there and I'll tell youwhatever.

Speaker 1 (01:37:37):
I'm so happy you didn't do that Dan.

Speaker 2 (01:37:40):
Actually, I think everybody from Manassas to South
America is happy about that too, but I had no sense of purpose.
Yeah, and I said give me a task,Tell me what you want me to do,
because I give myself to you orI'm throwing myself on her next
.
Uh, 18 wheeler.

(01:38:00):
I see, it's like I was lookingon 66 East in the morning rush
hour for an 18 wheeler and therewasn't one.
Because I was honestly going tojust like slide my bike, lay it
underneath one and just I'mdone.
Yeah, so I had a perfect life,but going to just like slide my
bike, lay it underneath one andjust I'm done.

(01:38:21):
So I had a perfect life, but Ihad no purpose.
I was that Easter egg bunny andI heard a voice in my head and
it wasn't like kill the neighbor, it wasn't a dog, it was a son
of Sam crap.
And it told me I would go backto the Middle East.
I was raised in an army ofthousands, I would fight evil.
I would not come back.

(01:38:43):
Huh, right, I'm like say againall after.
Say again your last, please.
Yeah, and so exact same thing.
I went to the office, I sawRick and I told Rick very
religious, and Rick and I Iprayed he goes, brother, you
just gotta do what god says.
I'm like does he understandexactly how much it costs to
raise an army, because I do.

(01:39:05):
I've raised armies in foreigncountries.
This is what I do.
It's wicked, expensive and, uh,I don't have that kind of cash
man it's a lot of money, a lotof dinero right there I did my
whole day at work.
I rode home.
I told my wife we prayed.
She got emotional.
I'm like, what am I supposed todo?

(01:39:26):
She goes you'll do what godsays.
You ask and you'll do what godsays.
I'm like, all right, rock on.
I'm like, but I'm thinking thatmaybe there was a general
driving next to me in the carand that message was for him and
it bounced off his window andhit me instead.
You know, because I'm like, butI'm thinking that maybe there
was a general driving next to mein the car and that message was
for him and it bounced off hiswindow and hit me instead.

Speaker 1 (01:39:42):
Because I don't think , jc.
Maybe it happens every day withsome of our politicians.
It just bounces and misses themyeah.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
But I'm thinking that's a lot of money to raise
an army and I don't think Godgets it.
I'm just a stupid Marine, youknow I can't do this shit.
So she said stop uh questioninggod when you asked him for
guidance.
So it was 2018 and then 2021happened that was it that was.

(01:40:14):
I went back to the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
I was given two C-17s .
I raised an army of thousands.
Yeah, we fought evil, and theDan that went to the Middle East
did not come back.

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
Isn't that cool.
That's the word of God.
That's pretty badass man.
Yeah, you were interpreting itthe wrong way when you, indeed,
but the way it translated and,like throughout period, the
period of time was exactly howit played out that's pretty
badass.

Speaker 2 (01:40:48):
That's what god wanted, not what I.
You know I was trying to likeput my own spin on it, right.
So the one god foundation andwhat we try to do is say there
has to be a purpose in your life, whether you be 100 man yeah,
whether you be a veteran orrefugee or, uh, someone who was

(01:41:10):
trafficked will give you thatpurpose.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
Well, I mean think about somebody at work like Minx
, who's giving me a horriblelook right now At our work.
No, like at her work, anybody'swork.
Like if you're a manager orsome level where you've got a
team or people underneath you.
You have to give your peoplepurpose.

(01:41:38):
If they don't, they fail.
And the minx tells me a lot ofstuff that she observes from her
work.
Where that happens, people losepurpose and they start to not

(01:42:00):
do what they're supposed to door whatever.
But it's in every aspect of life.
You know what I mean.
Like I fail with my son a lotwith purpose.
You know.
Like I need to.
I have to spend more time withhim, like just taking him
outside and giving him morepurpose, away from playing video
games and watching TV.

(01:42:20):
It's those little types ofthings of purpose.
And then there's the largerthings of purpose, like the
purpose of what you're sayinglife, like a reason to live, a
reason to be here, a reason toprovide for your family or
whatever.
But I think serving purpose goesin every aspect of life, from

(01:42:43):
the time you wake up until thetime you go to bed.
There's little things there allover the place to provide
purpose and provide directionfor people, like our dog, like I
shit you not, I am not sayingthis to be funny or anything but

(01:43:06):
our dog Jersey.
She's old, she's got cancer,she's I don't know how many
things have been amputated offof her Still happy and she still
has purpose in her life.
Like, every morning, she getsup, she's in pain all day long

(01:43:30):
but she plays with her otherlittle dog and that's her
purpose.
But as soon as that purpose isgone, you know, I think that's
going to be the time where theminx and I are going to be like
I think it might be time.
You know, she's, she's, she'sgoing to know she doesn't have a
purpose, you know, and that'sgoing to be horrible for her,

(01:43:50):
you know.
And human beings are the sameway they got, and human beings
are the same way, they've got tohave purpose in everything they
do, everything they do.
It was amazing, but I'll talk toyou offline about some of that
stuff.
But, dude, I think we're goingto, if you don't mind, we need

(01:44:14):
to have you back.
But, dude, I think we're goingto, if you don't mind, we need
to have you back.
But we've got to be, we've gotto go to a birthday.
What the hell is it tomorrow?
A brunch walk into CherryBlossoms or something like that.
Oh that's awesome, yeah, whichmeans we have to end it tonight.
Yeah, yeah, this has been agreat like like.

(01:44:38):
This has been an awesomeconversation.
I wish my compadre was here, as, uh, his name's mike.
He wasn't here the last timeyou were here, um, but he's
normally the co-host, um, youknow, it was just him and mike
block and then, um, yeah,melissa and vivian, um, but he's
they're're leaving for Tampaearly in the morning so he
couldn't be here tonight, but hewould have thoroughly enjoyed

(01:45:01):
this conversation and I can'twait to play it back for him
once I get it edited.
So that was an awesomeconversation.
I can't wait to have you backand, if you don't mind, I will
put all your information, allyour websites, any links,
anything like that.
They'll be at the bottom.

(01:45:22):
If you're watching this onYouTube, it'll be at the bottom
in the comments, and just lookon my website on this episode,
and I will have Dan Stenson's,all of his information as far as
his non-profits, anything thatyou want to know to contact him
about anything that we spokeabout tonight.

(01:45:42):
It'll be on there and I hope tohave you back.
Man, it was awesome, it wasamazing.
I won't give you this finger.
I actually bit the.
I dipped this in hot sauce andbit it off that was good man.

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