November 17, 2024 • 11 mins
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What really lies behind the intrigue of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)? Dive into the revelations from the groundbreaking November UAP hearing as we explore Immaculate Constellation, a clandestine program that uses cutting-edge intelligence operations to track these mysterious occurrences. We'll unravel the potential connections between UAPs and non-human intelligence, questioning whether the government might have recovered alien materials. Noteworthy figures like Luis Elizondo lend their voices to this compelling narrative, offering hints that challenge conventional thinking and spark curiosity.
The excitement and unease of venturing into unknown territories are palpable as we discuss the vast array of questions and possibilities these hearings have opened up. As you listen, consider the implications of these findings on our understanding of advanced technology and extraterrestrial life. We emphasize the importance of curiosity, urging listeners to conduct independent research and engage in meaningful dialogue about these profound discoveries. Remember, no matter what the future reveals, we'll navigate this new frontier together, ensuring a journey as enlightening as it is intriguing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey everyone, thanks for joining us for this deep
dive.
You know that November UAPhearing.
A lot of you have been askingfor this.
Well, buckle up because we'regoing deep.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, this hearing, it really did bring a lot of
stuff out into the open, stuffthat people have only been
talking about, you know, inprivate.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It feels like we're kind of finally moving past that
whole like oh it's just sciencefiction thing.
You know, this hearing put itright out there, the weird stuff
the government trying to figureit out.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, what it all means for us, right, and one of
the biggest things that came outof it, I think, is this special
access program.
They were talking aboutimmaculate constellation.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Okay wait, intelligence operation.
Like are we talking like spystuff here?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, basically.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
They were using everything they had to gather
data on UAPs.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
What kind of stuff Like?
Give me an example.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I mean we're talking radar data, satellite images,
eyewitness accounts.
They were even trying to pickup any signals these things
might be sending out.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Really Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh yeah, they were really interested in anything
that might be linked to likenon-human intelligence or what
they call reproduction vehicles.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Reproduction vehicles .
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know like self-replicating craft.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Whoa, hold on Self-replicating.
Okay, Now that is like nextlevel, so it sounds like they
were taking this seriously.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Oh, absolutely, but they weren't exactly advertising
it were they.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's what I don't get Like all this secrecy why?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, it came out in the hearing that there were
people trying to control theflow of information.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Really.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Almost like they wanted to keep it all under
wraps.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
What are they so afraid of?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's the million-dollar question, isn't
it?
I mean, think about it.
Yeah, what if some of theseUAPs actually are proof of alien
life?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I know right, that changes everything.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It really does.
It turns everything we thoughtwe knew about our place in the
universe upside down.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's like a total paradigm shift.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay, so let's talk about some of those sightings.
The hearing went into detailabout some pretty wild
encounters, right?
What were some of the ones thatstood out to you?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, there was that incident in the C&T comm region.
A bunch of people saw thisformation of metallic orbs over
the ocean.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Metallic orbs.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Uh-huh.
But these weren't just lightsin the sky.
They were moving in the superprecise way, almost like they
were creating a shape.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What kind of shape?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Like a giant cube.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
A cube made of metallic orbs.
Yeah, okay, that is straight upsci-fi.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, it really is, and the witnesses were all
saying these things were movingin ways that no normal aircraft
could.
They'd break formation, ziparound at incredible speeds and
then reform in an instant.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I can't even imagine seeing that in person.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
To actually witness something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And that's just one example.
There was another one in theIndo-Pacom region.
This thing was moving so fast.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Witnesses said it was oval-shaped.
Okay, and it was tracked goingover the open ocean at an insane
speed.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Okay, so we've got high speeds, strange movements,
what else?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Oh, there's the Orcom incident.
You remember that one.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Refresh my memory.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So this UAP shows up and it's acting like a fighter
jet.
They even got it on radar.
It was coming in supersonicspeeds.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
A UAP approaching a fighter jet.
Was it like trying to attack orsomething?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's hard to say what its intentions were, but the
pilot of the fighter jet saidhe'd never seen anything like it
.
It was pulling off maneuversthat should have been impossible
.
Wow, yeah, it really makes youthink we're not just talking
about lights in the sky anymore.
We're talking about things thatcan do things we can't even
dream of doing.
And the thing is, these weren'tjust like one-offs.
The hearing brought up a bunchof similar encounters happening
(03:30):
all over the world.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
A lot of them were in like really sensitive airspace
or around military bases.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So it's not just random then.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It doesn't seem like it.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's like they're checking us out.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right, like they're interested in what we can do.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean, if they can fly.
You know come say hi.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, why all the sneaking around?
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It is weird.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Maybe they're just being cautious, you think, I
don't know.
Maybe they're watching usbefore they decide what to do
next.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Or maybe they just play by a different set of rules
, could be.
You know, I always thought ifwe ever met aliens it'd be this
big, huge thing.
Yeah, like in the movies.
Yeah, you First contact, andall that Right, but this is way
more like subtle.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, more mysterious ?
Yeah, definitely.
And then there's the wholething with how governments have
handled this.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Oh, don't even get me started.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The hearing made it pretty clear that they've been
keeping a lot of this quiet.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, from everyone, like even Congress.
So why all the secrecy?
Seriously, what's the point?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
They didn't really give us a straight answer, but
it definitely sounded likethere's some kind of struggle
going on within the governmentitself.
Like what do you mean?
Like some people want to keepeverything hidden and other
people want to be more openabout it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
You know it makes you wonder if there are people in
the government who know way morethan they're letting on.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh, I'm sure there are.
I mean if programs likeImmaculate.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Constellation existed , right.
Who knows what else is outthere, right.
And then you got Luis Elizondooh yeah, elizondo, the guy who
blew the whistle on thePentagon's UFO program.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Exactly.
He testified at the hearing too.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, he said that, based on what he saw while he
was working on AATIP, there's agood chance.
The government has recoveredmaterials from UAPs.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Are we talking like alien artifacts here?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
He didn't say aliens specifically.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But he did say that, whatever this stuff is, it's not
like anything we've ever seenbefore.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, now that is interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It is.
I mean, think about it.
If the government actually haspieces of a UAP that changes
everything it really does.
So why haven't they told usabout it?
Good question, and what arethey doing with it?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I know right, Are they trying to figure out how it
works?
Build their own versions?
Maybe it's a whole new level oftechnology.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Right Technology that we didn't even create ourselves
.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So what are the implications of that I mean for
the world, for humanity, that.
So what are the implications ofthat I mean for the world, for
humanity?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's a huge question.
We're talking about ethicsgeopolitics.
It gets complicated fast.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
This is a lot to take in.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I know we went from weird lights in the sky to
possible alien tech prettyquickly.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But the hearing didn't stop there.
They also talked about signals,intelligence.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Oh right, Like intercepting communications and
stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What did they say about that?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, basically, they said that other countries are
picking up signals to signalsthat seem to be connected to
UAPs.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So it's not just us, nope.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's a global thing.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Huh, that's kind of a relief actually to know we're
not the only ones dealing withthis.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I know Right, but it also makes you wonder if some of
these other countries are aheadof us in figuring this stuff
out.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Maybe we need to be workingtogether on this.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think that's a great idea Pool our resources,
share what we know.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, two heads are better than one.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Right, especially when you're dealing with
something this big.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Exactly.
Now here's another thing theybrought up the whole question of
what happens if we actuallyannounce to the world that
aliens exist.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh, wow, yeah what would that do to people Right,
it could change everything.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Totally how we see ourselves, our place in the
universe, our religions even.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's a huge deal, and the hearing talked about both
the good and the bad that couldcome from it.
Like what?
Well, on the one hand, it couldbring us all together, you know
, like facing a common challenge.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, I could see that, but on the other hand, it
could also cause a lot of fearand chaos.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh yeah, for sure Some people would freak out.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Right, there could be riots, wars, who knows?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So it's like a double edged sword.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Exactly A chance for amazing progress, but also a
risk of total disaster.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
This is heavy stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It is.
We're talking about a whole newunderstanding of reality, and
we don't know what that meansyet.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I mean this is huge right.
This isn't just about someweird lights in the sky anymore.
This is like questioningeverything we thought we knew
About, like our place in theuniverse.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I think you're right.
This hearing was like a line inthe sand.
Yeah, you know, it brought thewhole UAP thing out into the
open and made everyone thinkabout the possibility that we're
not alone.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And it also brought up a lot of questions about what
the government knows and whythey've been so quiet about it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, Transparency was a big part of the hearing.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
A lot of people were talking about the need to be
more open, both within thegovernment and with the public.
I get why they might not wantto tell everyone everything,
especially if it's about youknow, aliens and stuff but at
the same time, don't you thinkall that secrecy is just making
things worse?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's tricky.
You have to find the rightbalance.
The hearing talked about therisks of telling everyone you
know, like people panicking orsociety falling apart, but they
also talked about how importantit is for people to trust the
government and for thegovernment to be honest with
people.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It feels like we're at this point where we have to
choose, you know, do we stickwith the old way of doing things
, keeping everything secret andpretending nothing's happening,
or do we face this new reality,even if it's scary?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's the challenge, isn't it?
How do we move forward?
How do we deal with the unknown?
How do we make sure we're doingthe right thing?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
There was this one part of the hearing that really
got to me.
This pilot was testifying andhe said something like we can't
be afraid of the truth, nomatter how weird or scary it is.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, I remember that that was a good one, and it's
so true.
This isn't about being afraid.
It's about learning andunderstanding.
It's about growing as a species.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well said, so what happens now?
Where do we go from here?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I think the hearing showed us that this is just the
start.
You know, there's so much moreto learn, so much more data to
look at, so many more people totalk to, and as a society, we
need to start having someserious conversations about what
this all means and how we'regoing to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's like we've opened this door and on the
other side is this whole newworld, a world where anything
seems possible.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's exciting, right, but also a little bit
terrifying.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Definitely, I think the key is to be curious, but
also to be careful.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Absolutely Well.
This has been a pretty amazingdeep dive.
I feel like my brain is aboutto explode.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Mine too.
I've learned so much.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's been great talking about this with you.
You too.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And to everyone listening out there if you're
feeling a little overwhelmed byall this, don't worry.
It's okay to take some time tothink about it.
Do your own research, figureout what you believe and
remember we're all in thistogether.
Whatever happens next, we'llface it together.
Thanks for joining us for thisdeep dive and until next time,
keep looking up.
Hey everyone, thanks for joining us for this deep
dive.
You know that November UAPhearing.
A lot of you have been askingfor this.
Well, buckle up because we'regoing deep.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, this hearing, it really did bring a lot of
stuff out into the open, stuffthat people have only been
talking about, you know, inprivate.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It feels like we're kind of finally moving past that
whole like oh it's just sciencefiction thing.
You know, this hearing put itright out there, the weird stuff
the government trying to figureit out.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Yeah, what it all means for us, right, and one of
the biggest things that came outof it, I think, is this special
access program.
They were talking aboutimmaculate constellation.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Okay wait, intelligence operation.
Like are we talking like spystuff here?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, basically.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
They were using everything they had to gather
data on UAPs.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
What kind of stuff Like?
Give me an example.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I mean we're talking radar data, satellite images,
eyewitness accounts.
They were even trying to pickup any signals these things
might be sending out.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Really Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Oh yeah, they were really interested in anything
that might be linked to likenon-human intelligence or what
they call reproduction vehicles.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
Reproduction vehicles .
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You know like self-replicating craft.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Whoa, hold on Self-replicating.
Okay, Now that is like nextlevel, so it sounds like they
were taking this seriously.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Oh, absolutely, but they weren't exactly advertising
it were they.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That's what I don't get Like all this secrecy why?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, it came out in the hearing that there were
people trying to control theflow of information.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Really.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Almost like they wanted to keep it all under
wraps.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
What are they so afraid of?
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's the million-dollar question, isn't
it?
I mean, think about it.
Yeah, what if some of theseUAPs actually are proof of alien
life?
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I know right, that changes everything.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
It really does.
It turns everything we thoughtwe knew about our place in the
universe upside down.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
It's like a total paradigm shift.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay, so let's talk about some of those sightings.
The hearing went into detailabout some pretty wild
encounters, right?
What were some of the ones thatstood out to you?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Well, there was that incident in the C&T comm region.
A bunch of people saw thisformation of metallic orbs over
the ocean.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Metallic orbs.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Uh-huh.
But these weren't just lightsin the sky.
They were moving in the superprecise way, almost like they
were creating a shape.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
What kind of shape?
Speaker 2 (02:13):
Like a giant cube.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
A cube made of metallic orbs.
Yeah, okay, that is straight upsci-fi.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
Yeah, it really is, and the witnesses were all
saying these things were movingin ways that no normal aircraft
could.
They'd break formation, ziparound at incredible speeds and
then reform in an instant.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
I can't even imagine seeing that in person.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
To actually witness something like that.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
And that's just one example.
There was another one in theIndo-Pacom region.
This thing was moving so fast.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Witnesses said it was oval-shaped.
Okay, and it was tracked goingover the open ocean at an insane
speed.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Okay, so we've got high speeds, strange movements,
what else?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Oh, there's the Orcom incident.
You remember that one.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Refresh my memory.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
So this UAP shows up and it's acting like a fighter
jet.
They even got it on radar.
It was coming in supersonicspeeds.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
A UAP approaching a fighter jet.
Was it like trying to attack orsomething?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
It's hard to say what its intentions were, but the
pilot of the fighter jet saidhe'd never seen anything like it
.
It was pulling off maneuversthat should have been impossible
.
Wow, yeah, it really makes youthink we're not just talking
about lights in the sky anymore.
We're talking about things thatcan do things we can't even
dream of doing.
And the thing is, these weren'tjust like one-offs.
The hearing brought up a bunchof similar encounters happening
(03:30):
all over the world.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
A lot of them were in like really sensitive airspace
or around military bases.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
So it's not just random then.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
It doesn't seem like it.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
It's like they're checking us out.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right, like they're interested in what we can do.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I mean, if they can fly.
You know come say hi.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, why all the sneaking around?
It's weird.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It is weird.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
Maybe they're just being cautious, you think, I
don't know.
Maybe they're watching usbefore they decide what to do
next.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Or maybe they just play by a different set of rules
, could be.
You know, I always thought ifwe ever met aliens it'd be this
big, huge thing.
Yeah, like in the movies.
Yeah, you First contact, andall that Right, but this is way
more like subtle.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Yeah, more mysterious ?
Yeah, definitely.
And then there's the wholething with how governments have
handled this.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Oh, don't even get me started.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
The hearing made it pretty clear that they've been
keeping a lot of this quiet.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Yeah, from everyone, like even Congress.
So why all the secrecy?
Seriously, what's the point?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
They didn't really give us a straight answer, but
it definitely sounded likethere's some kind of struggle
going on within the governmentitself.
Like what do you mean?
Like some people want to keepeverything hidden and other
people want to be more openabout it.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
You know it makes you wonder if there are people in
the government who know way morethan they're letting on.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh, I'm sure there are.
I mean if programs likeImmaculate.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Constellation existed , right.
Who knows what else is outthere, right.
And then you got Luis Elizondooh yeah, elizondo, the guy who
blew the whistle on thePentagon's UFO program.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Exactly.
He testified at the hearing too.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
What did he say?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Well, he said that, based on what he saw while he
was working on AATIP, there's agood chance.
The government has recoveredmaterials from UAPs.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Are we talking like alien artifacts here?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
He didn't say aliens specifically.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
But he did say that, whatever this stuff is, it's not
like anything we've ever seenbefore.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Okay, now that is interesting.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
It is.
I mean, think about it.
If the government actually haspieces of a UAP that changes
everything it really does.
So why haven't they told usabout it?
Good question, and what arethey doing with it?
Speaker 1 (05:41):
I know right, Are they trying to figure out how it
works?
Build their own versions?
Maybe it's a whole new level oftechnology.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
Right Technology that we didn't even create ourselves
.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
So what are the implications of that I mean for
the world, for humanity, that.
So what are the implications ofthat I mean for the world, for
humanity?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's a huge question.
We're talking about ethicsgeopolitics.
It gets complicated fast.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
This is a lot to take in.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I know we went from weird lights in the sky to
possible alien tech prettyquickly.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
But the hearing didn't stop there.
They also talked about signals,intelligence.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Oh right, Like intercepting communications and
stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What did they say about that?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Well, basically, they said that other countries are
picking up signals to signalsthat seem to be connected to
UAPs.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
So it's not just us, nope.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
It's a global thing.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
Huh, that's kind of a relief actually to know we're
not the only ones dealing withthis.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I know Right, but it also makes you wonder if some of
these other countries are aheadof us in figuring this stuff
out.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Maybe we need to be workingtogether on this.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think that's a great idea Pool our resources,
share what we know.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah, two heads are better than one.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Right, especially when you're dealing with
something this big.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Exactly.
Now here's another thing theybrought up the whole question of
what happens if we actuallyannounce to the world that
aliens exist.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Oh, wow, yeah what would that do to people Right,
it could change everything.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Totally how we see ourselves, our place in the
universe, our religions even.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's a huge deal, and the hearing talked about both
the good and the bad that couldcome from it.
Like what?
Well, on the one hand, it couldbring us all together, you know
, like facing a common challenge.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Yeah, I could see that, but on the other hand, it
could also cause a lot of fearand chaos.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
Oh yeah, for sure Some people would freak out.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Right, there could be riots, wars, who knows?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
So it's like a double edged sword.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Exactly A chance for amazing progress, but also a
risk of total disaster.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
This is heavy stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It is.
We're talking about a whole newunderstanding of reality, and
we don't know what that meansyet.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
I mean this is huge right.
This isn't just about someweird lights in the sky anymore.
This is like questioningeverything we thought we knew
About, like our place in theuniverse.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
I think you're right.
This hearing was like a line inthe sand.
Yeah, you know, it brought thewhole UAP thing out into the
open and made everyone thinkabout the possibility that we're
not alone.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
And it also brought up a lot of questions about what
the government knows and whythey've been so quiet about it.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Yeah, Transparency was a big part of the hearing.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
A lot of people were talking about the need to be
more open, both within thegovernment and with the public.
I get why they might not wantto tell everyone everything,
especially if it's about youknow, aliens and stuff but at
the same time, don't you thinkall that secrecy is just making
things worse?
Speaker 2 (08:25):
It's tricky.
You have to find the rightbalance.
The hearing talked about therisks of telling everyone you
know, like people panicking orsociety falling apart, but they
also talked about how importantit is for people to trust the
government and for thegovernment to be honest with
people.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It feels like we're at this point where we have to
choose, you know, do we stickwith the old way of doing things
, keeping everything secret andpretending nothing's happening,
or do we face this new reality,even if it's scary?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
That's the challenge, isn't it?
How do we move forward?
How do we deal with the unknown?
How do we make sure we're doingthe right thing?
Speaker 1 (08:56):
There was this one part of the hearing that really
got to me.
This pilot was testifying andhe said something like we can't
be afraid of the truth, nomatter how weird or scary it is.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, I remember that that was a good one, and it's
so true.
This isn't about being afraid.
It's about learning andunderstanding.
It's about growing as a species.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well said, so what happens now?
Where do we go from here?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
I think the hearing showed us that this is just the
start.
You know, there's so much moreto learn, so much more data to
look at, so many more people totalk to, and as a society, we
need to start having someserious conversations about what
this all means and how we'regoing to deal with it.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
It's like we've opened this door and on the
other side is this whole newworld, a world where anything
seems possible.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's exciting, right, but also a little bit
terrifying.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Definitely, I think the key is to be curious, but
also to be careful.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Absolutely Well.
This has been a pretty amazingdeep dive.
I feel like my brain is aboutto explode.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Mine too.
I've learned so much.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's been great talking about this with you.
You too.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
And to everyone listening out there if you're
feeling a little overwhelmed byall this, don't worry.
It's okay to take some time tothink about it.
Do your own research, figureout what you believe and
remember we're all in thistogether.
Whatever happens next, we'llface it together.
Thanks for joining us for thisdeep dive and until next time,
keep looking up.
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