#11. Guests- Jessica Vargas, Jeremy Arroyo & Aaron Vactor: The Epstein List.

The Epstein list, different types of yoga, and we attempt to call some famous people.

Episode Transcript

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And ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another another
Savage edition of It's Not AboutYou with Marianne, myself, Jamal
Harrington. Speaking of Marianne, Marianne
is not on the she's not here with us yet.
She has to get surgery. And for those of you who
actually pay attention to the podcast, you know why.
So I won't really get into it until she decides to pop in or

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what have you. But today we have a really great
show we got. First of all, let me introduce a
very funny comedian out of Silver Springs, Maryland,
Maryland. Maryland.
How? How the Southerners pronounce
it. Our very funny friend Aaron
Vector. Yeah, glad to be here.

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You can hear me clearly. Right.
You are here and also another guest of ours Very, very I I
read his Facebook posts and he'she's very, I like the I like
those types of people who can bevery witty online, even though
he may or may not be a comic. But we got Jeremy Arroyo in the
scene here. And also Speaking of while I'm

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introducing everybody, this person here just popped in
another one of our guests are more than just a guest.
She's actually the very, very brilliant Jessica Vargas, so
it's good to have a lady here. I'm sorry you're in the sausage
fest of dudes, but I needed. I needed a woman to to keep us

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straight since Marianne is not with us at the moment.
OK, I got you. Thank you for bringing having me
on. Thank you.
Thank you for clicking on the link.
So, so guys, so. Raise your hand if you are not
on that SP that Epstein list. Raise your hand if you weren't
on it. Raise your hand.

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Raise your hand if you're safe from being questioned.
Why were you on that? Oh wait no no.
I've prank called like 5 people from that list so I'm not safe.
Let me ask you guys this, for those of you I I went through
that I was at work yesterday bored out of my ass and I
thought to myself. Hey.

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Let's let's let's dig into this Epstein list for those.
Now, I'm assuming you all saw it, because let me tell you
something, Google was doing me no favors.
They. Almost.
It was almost as if they're. Trying to keep this list secret,
but I I dug and dug and dug for this list and did any name
surprise you on that list? David Blaine or.

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Names surprise you names. I have to say, Stephen Hawkins.
OK. And what's her name?
The the model. Sarah Wang.
No. She's Naomi Campbell.

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Naomi oh. That surprised the shit out of
me. Well.
Her. And Cate Blanchett, Those two
surprised me. I of all people, I'm just like.
And I think I'm in trouble here because like about a year.
Oh shit. The thing for my fake glasses
just fell off one of them. That's not good.

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That's God saying don't say this.
I have on his list the black book that actually got put out
like in one of our our hey prankcall these people chats.
And one of the rules is don't share phone numbers.
But man some of the numbers in there were it was like David
Copperfield was in there. But Vera Wang, I'm like he she's
obviously not going to the island.
These are just his contacts, butpretty messed up stuff to see

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and I would call them like why are you on the list?
They're like, all right, sorry, do the show.
I'm so sorry. I mean, it's it, it was just one
of those things where it was just like, I mean, I saw Donald
Trump's name on there and then it was, I mean it was just like,

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I don't know. I mean, I I do know what to make
of it. There's a lot of perverts out
there. I mean, there's a ton of
perverts out there. I mean Leonardo Dicaprio's name
being there. It almost makes sense because I
think if you're like 23, he justdismisses you like you're you're
too young, you're too old for him if you're like in your if
you're past 25. So that kind of makes sense to

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see his name on there. It sucks that his name is just,
that is on there. But yeah, it was just, you know,
it was the who's who's of. Of pervertiveness.
You know, I've been actually following this since a long time
ago. And Donald Trump lives next door

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to Upside right. And he had a girl that the one
that is actually, you know, caused the whole drama of suing,
you know, Galene Maxwell and getting this list out.
He says that she, he hit on one of her like, you know, I guess

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girls. And he stopped talking to him
all of a sudden and you know, hejust cut ties with him.
I feel like with Trump they he knew, but he didn't want to be
involved. I don't think Trump was
involved. I just know that he knows, of
course. I think everybody around the

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circle knows they're not idiots.Of course, House, you see all
these paintings of young, you know, women and you know decor
that are like, you know, really,you know, disgusting stuff of
young women and. Clay Blanchett on Titanic.

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Yep. Yeah.
Oh yeah, I know you Drew. I mean.
Michael Jackson, Michael Jackson.
Has a trip to me too. I mean, oh man, just the.
I mean, again, I'm not surprisedhis name is not on there.
But at the same time, it's like to what association did you have

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with them? I mean, just just tell me like,
you tripped over his dog while walking him in the neighborhood
or something and you're like, oh, hi, I'm, I'm Michael
Jackson. Oh, you must be that Epstein
person that Bill Clinton is talking about.
Like give me that. My buddy just posted.
We just were talking about Michael Jackson and I was

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telling him how when he was, he was a little old right at this
off the wall. I might be dating myself a
little bit here, but I was a younger kid in the hotel with
them. And, you know, you know,
everyone was excited because, you know that everyone loves
Michael Jackson. Of course I had to tell him, you
know, I was in the same hotel, but I was kind of disappointed,
you know, that I wasn't, you know, he didn't pick me.

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You know, I went up to the hotelroom.
You know what I'm saying? You know, with all the payouts,
I don't know. That might have been a bad joke,
but. You're you're mad.
Because we get that that collegefund at that price.
Hello, That's all I'm saying. Michael Jackson, I I mean, it

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doesn't help his case though, like.
Well, it it doesn't help now because he's dead and he can't
speak on this. Oh, you're kind of in and out.

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Yeah, but Michael. Michael Jackson, just what's
what's that other actor's name? Kevin Spacey.
Bill Cosby Oh. Kevin Spacey.
Yeah, I he was dropped with withhis charges, but I mean, he was

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known to, you know be with little boys.
Yeah, I mean that. That has been documented.
You know, I've been reading a lot of horrible shit about
Prince Andrew, about how he had groped people.
Surprise, surprise. I mean, I guess when your name,

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you know, has royalty, you know,you could get it.
You could do whatever you want except for beyond, you know
Epstein's list it's then. Yeah.
I went through almost every namein that list to see like, OK,
who do I recognize and the amount of politicians that were

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involved. I mean it's again this is the
The Who. I mean, I'll put it to you this
way. Santa Claus is not coming over
these people's houses next for Christmas this coming year, I
mean. Jamal, can I just say This is
why I know you're an intellectual, because I would
not have known those politicianshave just been like, look at
those. Those they're those they.

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They are. Yeah, and I'm not talking about,
and I'm not talking about, like,the usual apology.
I'm not talking about, like the Bill Clintons.
I mean, I had to Google some of these people, like Ed Tuttle
from Seattle. You know, I didn't know.
I I thought he was somebody else.
And I was like, oh, OK, And his name is on this now.
Is it safe to say that now and again, I could be wrong about

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this, that some of these people are innocent?
Are there any innocent people onthis list?
Again, a lot of this is by association, so.
I. Oprah was been Oprah's with with
with them. Sorry.

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Can I bring up a huge no, no, no, you can cut me off all all.
I'm not here. I'm here to just interrupt you
guys, actually. So get me, do you.
I don't want to drop names, but I think I can at this point,
can't I? Sure you can.
Yeah, someone dropped the original His Black Book like,
months ago. I'm talking, oh, months.

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This must have been six years ago into one of our group chats.
And I I saved it real quick at work.
I I was a Section 8 case manager, so I saved it at my
government job and I was like, uh, oh, should have saved that.
But nothing happened. And I'm talking about it now.
Nothing happened. Oh, fuck.
But Bobby Slayton. You know Bobby Slayton, the

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comedian, He's a older comedian,very dirty.
Like I think he does how to blind people, They smell the
paper. Old comedian from the 80s, he's
on the list. And I I think a lot of these
people might have just been people he just hired for stuff.
Like he hired Stephen Hawking for event, he hired Vera Wang to
get purses for the little whores, stuff like that.

(11:08):
OK, Stephen Hawking. Thing.
Stephen Hawking had. Go ahead.
He had. There was a a redacted statement
where he had sex with two other women, basically.
It's pronounced retarded. I'm sorry, I heard this podcast.

(11:30):
I thought that was OK. Oh, no, that's OK That's OK.
Trust me. We're not.
It's not like we're going to edit it out.
You could say the word retard. We're not.
We're, we're adults here. But the thing about my yeah, the
fact that, well, in in his case,I mean.
Yeah, I mean, you're Stephen Hawkins.

(11:51):
You're old like come. On man, you're not, you're not
going to roll your wheelchair into a club and bitch is going
to be diving all over your lap. I mean, that's just let me.
Stephen Hawkins had to pay for that, yeah.
So I mean it. This is basically a list.
You guys can hear me OK, right. Yes, Sir.
This is a lap. This is a list, basically, of

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the rich and powerful. I mean, let's let's face it, you
know, men who are in power taking advantage of that.
You know that actual idea, you know?
We can get there. We don't there's.
Probably, yeah. There's probably many more guys
on that list. There's, there's.
There's about 180 people left. Yeah, yeah.

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And it's it's going to get it. And it's going to be like over
months, you know? Yeah, I was actually reading the
list and I read through it. I got to about maybe I guess 20
names and I kind of, I mean after Bill Clinton, I kind of,
you know, as soon as I read BillClinton, all I could think about
was, you know, Hillary thinking,you know, did you say something

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ordeal. But.
So they're dropping them like week to week, like fargos.
We're not getting all the names.This sucks.
Yeah. I don't.
I don't know. But it's.
Fucking. News.
But then they drop. And then Katt Williams came with
his thing today, so that threw me all off.

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So I've been, you know, I'm justtrying to catch up with
everything right now. There's just too much.
I've been watching that and we've been watching Katt
Williams interview and reading names of potential pedophiles.
So, I mean, I've been pretty much kind of trying to keep and
and The thing is, it's like likeyou guys were just saying are
they going to drop like 20 of these?

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Like are they going to just do 20 a week?
Because let me tell you something, the first the first
list that I saw that I read was I was exhausted.
I mean, I had to. I took lunch early today.
I'm on my phone looking through the list, trying to Google,
trying to Google who these people are and shit I.
Also, you Googled it? All right, all right, all right,

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we're back. All right, all right.
So I'm not as dumb. So I, David Copperfield was on
that list. And if David Blaine was not on
that list, and I'm saying it nowbefore I get sniped and my
blinds are shut, so I'm. Good.
Oh, so are you. This almost feels like it's a
it's a death pool. Whose name is going to be on it
that we have? Well, no, but I mean, wait, hold
on. David Copperfield was on the

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list, but David Blaine was on the list.
They don't seem like they're going and doing stuff.
They seem like they can. They they really don't.
That seems like he's just like hiring Leonardo.
I don't know. But fuck man, What do you
believe? OK, so let me tell you the
story. OK?
Leonardo DiCaprio was heard by awoman while he was on the phone

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while he she was doing her thingand he mentioned Leonardo
DiCaprio and that was the story that he was never visited to the
island or any did or met up withthem that we know of.
The Prince Andrew. OK, Jamal, you're you're reading

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on him how sick he is. So he's like the queen bee of
the family. Like he's royalties, like you
know, go go get my fetch my stuff and I want all my dolls.
Like his whole bed was covered with dolls and they had to be
neatly and like, yeah, yeah, hishousekeepers confided and said,

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hey, yeah, he had ton a ton of dolls and he would play with
dolls. He would act like a girl, wear
gold clothes. He was weird.
So a lot of the housekeepers hasopened their mouths about Chris,
you know, Prince Andrew. So that's the story with the 2
girls defray. She's the one that had, you

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know, the threesome with Andrew,and that's when he had a doll
sitting in the middle between them, one grabbing the one
girl's boob in the end, him grabbing the other girl's boobs.
So yeah, Prince Andrew is a sickman and I don't know who else is
sicker, but Chris Tucker was also on that list.

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Now they brought, they're bringing out everybody who has
been on that Jeffrey Epstein Netflix video documentary.
They all the names were already dropped because of the call log
on the, you know the the airlinelogs and it was all Bill Clinton
and some Oprah, Oprah and Chris Tucker.

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But they went to events. So whoever went to Pedophile
Island, I mean that captain, he knows everything.
Can. I give you a.
Bigger bomb and also just real quick about David Blaine.
They just said he was there. They they said he was there just

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to perform his magic. That's it just he was there
performing magic. We.
Have Chris Tucker, he seems. Terrible joke, I'm sorry.
No, but David Blaine, I think you're right that he said he saw
well. He was, yeah.
I saw Chris Tucker on the list, too.
That's. Yeah, Chris Tucker was on the

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pilot, was on the airplane, you know, he got to sign in to fly.
So his he and he took a picture.I saw.
I think I saw him on the list aswell.
I had a bomb. I had a.
Picture that has a picture with him and and being Bill Clinton.
And I and I think I think that'skind of like if you look at

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Chris Tucker's career it was getting ready to like really
explode and then he had like kind of like that that that
meltdown, you know what I mean? Like it kind of like halted for
a second. I wonder if that had anything to
to to do with. That I mean, I thought because
there was a while where he mean he wasn't doing much of anything

(18:10):
and I thought it was because he was going through some tax
trouble. So I mean unless that is.
Well, he well, well, the thing was they wanted him to do movies
with a lot more cursing, a lot being a lot more vulgar.
And his excuse was that he didn't want to do it because he
had kids. OK, I've heard that too.

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I've heard also, yeah, I've heard that with all the money
he's got, he was just, you know,scheduling and being away from
his family and all that. I have heard that too.
But I've also heard that because, you know, sometimes
you'll see a movie star rise andthen all of a sudden it's like,
where's he been? Like, remember when Wesley
Snipes was just doing B movies, Nicolas Cage to win B movies?

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Because they owed. They owed a lot of money to the
government. I would have watched B movie if
they were in it. You know so.
Well, they were, they were goingto make the next Friday, right,
with Chris Tucker and he refusedto do it because he didn't want
promote. With the next The next Friday,
the next next Friday. Or the Friday after the after.

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The So the next Friday after next?
Yeah, but I think he recognized one Friday and it's the first
one. Yeah, well, he didn't want to.
He didn't want to represent himself that way again.
And so I know that's that was one reason that kind of, I mean
it kind of stalled his career. I didn't really hear.
We kind of seen him fall off after that.
Yeah, that it was. It was another guy after.

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Yeah, he only did one Friday, soit's Friday at the next.
Week MM Epps, Mike Epps. He was in the other.
He was in the other remaining Fridays.
Was it Miss Vargas we didn't getintroduced?
Oh, I'm Jessica. Yes, I had Jay.
Yes, let me write that down. Or you can call me Jesse.

(20:01):
What do you prefer? Jess.
All right. Jeez, that was none of them.
All right. Background check.
Hey. And my background is yoga Bikram
sign and I practice yoga and I teach yoga behinds.
My wife, she had a she taught yoga for a couple years and

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then. Oh.
Didn't doesn't anymore. But she paid off her loan with
yoga, so that was. Cool.
Yeah, yeah. So do you do hot yoga, Jess?
I've taken hot yoga, but I don'tteach it.
It's. Yoga.
It's like a $16,000 certificate.Oh, wow.
Yeah. Yeah, the basics like four or

(20:43):
five, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, I did the basics.
I was like waiting to get rippedoff.
It's like $50. Yeah, I I I love the hot yoga.
I love it. Too.
You know, I was scared because Ithought I would be really
sensitive to the heat. So I always just taught regular
yoga and then I went to LifetimeFitness and I took my first hot

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yoga and nothing really changed.It's just really hot.
And and then I just became obsessed with it.
I I I'd love. I went like almost twice a day
in the morning and then at nightlike I was obsessed.
Comics, Comics doing yoga blows my.
Mind, when you're stiff like me,you got to get into the heat.

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Yeah, just be careful because ifyou if you're too stiff.
If you're too tight, I. Don't get it.
No, if you're too. If you're too tight, you could
overstretch. Just be careful.

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So I went to one with my wife. It was like a OH coupon.
And so this guy, he was pretty young and just like a
skateboarder or no, a surfboarder guy.
And he actually came around and we were like, bent over some
weird, like, triangle thingy. And he started rubbing shoulders
like our shoulders for a second like it was a massagio guy.

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And I thought it'd be weird. No, I was like, no, no, no,
please come back. Please come back.
It was so awesome. Massage yoga.
I recommend it. You know the searchers are they
have to ask you. You know, do you prefer to be
touched or not? Or you know or adjust it?
I he. I guess I consented when I
signed. I liked it.

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I asked for more. I didn't get more.
Yeah. I would like I'd be like.
I'd be like getting one too. Do they have sex?
Yoga. Is that a thing?
There's all kinds of yoga there's There's sex yoga,
there's naked yoga. There's goat yoga.
There's, there's. I've heard of goat yoga, all

(22:52):
right. Sex.
The puppy yoga. All right, back to your story.
Go ahead, Sir. OK, I'm ready to be educated on
this. Sex and goat.
Yoga. I don't know.
It's weird. The goats just stand on you.
Sex yoga doesn't make sense. Yeah, the goats just lean on
you. Oh really?
That's all the goat does. Yeah.
So you're you're in a position and you're bowing down and they

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just like step over you just to deepen your stretch.
OK, so there is a goat in. OK, so there's a goat involved.
OK. Yeah, but they don't do
anything. They stand on you.
You don't fuck it or nothing. They do a little bit.
Well, no, they do they. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they push down
on you. Like on your calves?
No. Like, like, let's say like

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you're in a a extended child's foods.
Like you're bowing down to make a prayer.
They get on your back and they push you down.
So do they like? Lure it with like, I don't know,
goat kibble or something for it to, like, walk on your back or
is it just like. The goat knows what to.
Do I guess they train them? I.

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Don't know you don't shower for three days.
And the goat just knows, OK, They just they start licking.
You. This guy's is a nasty.
Mountain. I'm going to climb it like we do
on the floor, OK? OK, so I'm sorry.
We're going to go on the dark side.

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Sex yoga. Please tell me that involves
more than one person other than my just myself and.
Involves with other people. Is it like?
Is it like? Kamasutra.
But, like, sex? Is that what?
Oh. Yeah.
Is it single people in the classlike the old HBO real sex?

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Or is it just couple like? Or is it with the instructor and
then just like in and out like the guy teased me with the
shoulder rub? So it's not a personal and
you're with the other people, soyou have separate maths, you
know? I don't know.
Up to 88 couples, 4 couples. Whatever and I like this.

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I've been. Doing yoga so wrong.
I've been doing this. No, I'm just saying, like I've
been stretching at the gym by myself and it's just like, you
mean to tell, hey, you, come over here, let's, let's.
But just be careful, just, but just be careful because just not
all you know are good looking people, but you know you're not

(25:24):
there to look at other people, but there is, there is a
blindfold. Sex.
Yoga. That would be so.
So I I I missed a a quick section of that.
A. Key importance.
So with sex yoga? Yeah, I may not.

(25:45):
See. I I may not see the partner
who's stretching me. Is that what you're telling me?
No, no, that's that's that's blind sex yoga.
That's a whole. No.
Blind section and and then you said something about Michael
Jordan being there the GOAT, right.
You said there's. No, no.
OK. You you completely missed that

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part. No, no.
An actual goat. Yeah.
You're just going to have to. You're going to have to like.
I got it. I thought.
I got it. I got it's.
Joelle, can I ask you a question?
Yes, you may, Sir. Oh thank fuck, did the office
party pay you? Yes.

(26:27):
And am I allowed to ask how muchor is that rude?
It's, it's. It's.
You decline, I understand declining.
I just want to know if it was worth.
It I will say this, I'll declineto answer that question, but I
will say this, I shouldn't have done it.
Shouldn't. All right.
Well. Yeah, I should not have done.

(26:49):
It but that was my question. The thing is, it was.
It was. I mean, as a comedian, I don't
get bent out of shape with audiences.
Not OK. It was bad.
Oh, it was bad. And it's because it wasn't the

(27:10):
right barometer. It wasn't the right oh.
I heard I heard the right story.Can I tell you something real
quick? Sure, they've asked me a bunch
of times. They they offered me $1000 once.
I said fuck you no eat shit, no,fuck your ass right now, you
fucking bitch. See, I can't say that.
OK? So no.
See how this isn't funny And I'mgetting in a lot of trouble
already? Go away because 3 rules.

(27:32):
The audience should be a bunch of strangers.
Sorry mom, lots of strangers in the right environment.
It should be like dark. All these open mics I see with
the lights up sell you at an artgallery to sell the art, keep it
up, lights off. And there's.
I mean, I know they're sober shows, but there should be boos,
those three things. And so I've heard that that just

(27:55):
sounded horrible. But if they paid you and it was
over $100, I think it was worth it with the was it over $100?
Yes. All right.
Thank you. OK, cool.
The thing the thing about, yeah,I I don't think that I, so I had
an opener go up before me and hedid his best.

(28:19):
God, he did his best. And then I went up and when I
was done with, now my set had tobe a clean set, which I'm very
good at doing. But you did 12 minutes right?
Was it only 12 or something? Short Yeah, it was about 12
minutes. And after the show, one of my Co
worker, well, the show after I got up, after I was done, one of
my Co workers came up to me and he said, have you ever done a

(28:42):
show where everybody was completely sober during it?
And I was like, yeah, but they actually enjoyed it.
He thought they should have beenbooze, you know, But I don't
think that was the case at all. It's just I work in a place
where there's different mixed cultures, mixed religions, mixed

(29:05):
everything. So it was just like, I mean a
lot of my there's some Co workers that got the jokes and
like the jokes and even, you know, made references to them
the next day. But at the same time it's like I
don't think a lot of them has ever been to like a comedy show
or you know, it was just it. It's hard to.
I mean my bosses, they love stand up comedy.

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So I felt like they were the only ones that were laughing.
My Co workers was like can't canwe just skip to the raffle?
I think that's a win, though. If your bosses were laughing, I
mean, if they weren't laughing, I think it would have been a
problem. Yeah, but at the same time as
so, like I I told myself and Thething is, when I was offered to

(29:49):
be the entertainment I had in myhead, just I was like, no, like,
we've learned from this, you know?
But the reason why I did it is because I always get this
question, hey, when's the next time they're going to be
performing? And most of the time I'm out of
the city, I'm out of the state performing elsewhere.
So I don't really perform much in New York as far as a regular

(30:11):
show. And if I was to do that, I would
not, I would. I would book a show on my own
and lined it up and then have them come to that, which I think
is what they would much rather do than see me at an office
party telling super clean jokes.I mean PG.
It's not even me, but I'm telling these PG rated no

(30:33):
cursing. I'm out of my element.
And I'm just like, OK, when whenI saw that, you know that when I
hit that 11 minute and 32nd mark, I was just thanking God
that I was going to be flying out to Seattle like the next
week and do like a bunch of shows out there that I knew that
people would have enjoyed. But at the same time, if I was

(30:57):
to ask next year or well this coming season to do it, I'm.
I would just decline or I would just get a comic that I know
that would love to do it and just be like, hey.
Can I tell you you you talked meinto it last episode you
honestly, I went from going no to yes with how you explained it

(31:19):
honestly. And you know what?
One thing about this podcast is and and a lot of people will
tell you I've been known to be wrong a bunches of times.
A lot of people listen to this. Wow, I'm.
Joking, I'm just. Joking.
Oh, see, you can poke one of ourselves.
I knew here. I think that's that's ironic

(31:43):
though, like because that's kindof how I started comedy, you
know, You know, me being my background is as a teacher, but
I started at, we started alumni.So I started getting, you know,
I was the host of this alumni show for people coming back and
you know, for the, for the, for the little dinner or whatever.

(32:05):
And so I've been doing that for so many years.
You know, I had built up this kind of like tolerance for, you
know, making people laugh at this certain setting and then I
just took it over to some open mics and that's just kind of how
it how it began. So, you know, that can kind of
work both ways. But I I wasn't necessarily in
front of the people at my job though too in the same right.

(32:27):
So just the administration. Well, two things were ironic is
no one listens to my podcast either.
And I am the criminal gross battles.
I fucking miss gross battles so much.
So sorry to dig, man. It's.
Nothing I. Just miss talking to comics,
that's basically it. Oh, wow.
I mean, yeah, I mean it's I I love talking to comics too.

(32:49):
I kind of felt like that was that was pretty much my entire
like, last week. That's all it was, was just in
the face of comics. And then wake up, smoke my weed,
drink my my my, my coffee, drinkall the beer that I had leftover
from last July and. They have those little towels

(33:10):
that the milfs put on their stoves that say like don't talk
to me till I have my coffee. We need to do ones that say
don't talk to me till you suck my Dick and I just had my weed
or something. Well, for me, it's beer.
Because I'll drink a beer. I'll have a coffee at 8:00, and
then I'll drink a beer at like 9:30.
That's kind of like my schedule.So you've been drinking your
beer since July? Oh yeah, that too.

(33:33):
Hold on, so so the last time I was in Seattle was in July,
around my birthday, and we had aparty over at Marianne's house.
Marianne was nice enough to throw a party for me, so we
invited a lot of close friends and family.
My brother came, my brother cameleft, came back and bought 3
cases of additional 3 cases of which I'm just like, fuck, we

(33:59):
only invited like 14 people, buthe bought like 3 cases and and
it was yeah, so and I was still going to be there for like
another like 4 days. So that's a lot of beer for.
I'm like, hey, take some beer with you And Marianne and her

(34:19):
husband, they don't drink. So rather than me try to stuff
beer in my backpack and try to smuggle it across to the east,
to the East Coast, they were like, you could leave it here
since you're coming back, no one's going to touch it.
And let me tell you something. And I counted.
Actually, I didn't. But it looks like not one beer,

(34:39):
not one wine bottle that was left there was touched.
So me. So when I I land me and my buddy
Jonathan, we go to like, the store.
And I'm like, I don't need to buy beer if we still have beer
there. But I bought like, hard liquor
and I've just been. It's just been one of the
greatest trips and just a great trip I need.

(35:03):
I need more more of those times.But yeah, when I saw that there
was beer there, I put a bunch ofthem in the refrigerator and
then next thing I know, it's Thursday night, I'm drinking
before doing like two other openmics.
So what do? You drink.
I mainly wheat beers, but I drink a lot.
Of white beer. Yes, I love wheat.

(35:25):
Beers. I'm a Heffer Bison fanatic, bro.
There's this wheat. Beer for the wife?
It's it's it's called Widmere. I drink a lot of that.
Whenever I'm in Seattle, I drinka lot of Rainiers.
A lot of. I mean, I have a rule.
Whenever I'm traveling and I'm drinking, I don't drink
commercial beer. I drink local brews.

(35:46):
So if I'm in Texas, I know for afact it's Shiner.
All day, every day. I love Shiner, but what I'm
going to try to do now is because being that I've been
doing a lot of drinking since, Imean well last week, I'm kind of
taking a a a good break from from it, which is going to be

(36:07):
hard because it's still footballseason minus, yeah, minus my
Giants, but it's still football season.
More reason to drink, but they were mentioning that they
they're going to start doing like a January, a dry January
where you don't drink or you cando a drama dry where you

(36:33):
partially. Drink.
Well. I drink a lot.
Like I think I drink hard liquor, like.
I mean, I could get a fifth and drink it in two days.
Now I don't know if it's becauseI'm stressed out at work, which
is not really the case because Idon't.

(36:55):
I I I I kind of feel like OK, it's my way of unwinding.
But you know I'll, I'll sit hereprobably write the episode of of
of this podcast or book shows orI feel like I got to keep.
I mean, I live in a city where Ican't sit still, so I feel like
I always have to be doing something.
Even if I'm sitting here, I would have like, my I have my
favorite glass sitting over hereand I put rocks in it and then

(37:16):
I'll pour like Brandy or or something.
But I, you know, one thing that I love about the Ant, like the
the last day of the days before Christmas and the days leading
up to the new year is I do a lotof like, just what do I need to

(37:36):
do to be a better person next year?
What do I need to do health wise?
And I think at this point I needto start not just saying these
things, but actually doing them.I don't have New Year's
resolutions. I think those are gay, but well,
actually, I don't. I don't say I have New Year's
resolutions. I don't tell people what my New
Year's resolutions are because in the world of social media,

(37:59):
everyone is trying to, like, prove you wrong and everyone.
Hates each. Other.
So I don't, I don't post none ofthat on Facebook, but what I did
was I wrote down. I was.
I was going to ask you if you right.
There you guys. I'll even show you guys this.
Anything said before the words like.

(38:21):
These right here are little post.
Its nice for 300 and. 40. Nine things that I wrote.
Wow. On these posters that I folded
them up, these are things that Iplan on achieving.
This is probably honestly doing the math and all the things that

(38:43):
I see that I need to do. This will probably take me 3
years to do. Oh, I thought you were doing a
year. I'm like, well, you have like a
month off. Well, no.
Like I just started page one right now, which was to like
case in point, like write 2 jokes, but I don't have But
before I could get to the next thing, I have to sit there and
write at least 2 jokes. But it can't be like, oh, here's

(39:06):
a premise or anything like that.It's got to be something that
it's like, OK, this is somethingI'm going to do at an open mic
at some point. Yeah, yeah.
You want, you want to be sorry to interrupt you?
No. No, that's it.
See. That lots of shit, No.
But you want to start off, like with with the items that you

(39:27):
know you're going to clear eventually.
But I'm proud of you. It it took me a month and a half
to come up with all of that. And the things are, I mean it's
just, you know, I it's just things that I feel like like in

(39:47):
order to be a like, I mean some of us are comedians here.
I kind of feel like what can I do together?
Some saying that. Some of us are comedians, some
of us are just funny individuals.
I have an album. Wait, you have an album?
Yo type up, type up Groaners, Jeremy Arroyo, oh.

(40:11):
OK, I'll definitely do that and we'll definitely promote that.
But, but yeah, I kind of feel like some of these things on the
list are things that are supposed to make me a better
comedian as far as like whether it's writing, whether it's going
to open minds, whether it's, I mean a lot of it is stand up
comedy related, like whether it's booking shows, whatever.
But some of it is just like, youknow, kind of like, you know,

(40:34):
take down to smell the roses, gowalk in the park or something or
you know, do something that I otherwise don't do.
So I I do my best. I want to do.
I want to be a better, I want tobe better at everything this
year and I'm pretty sure everybody on this on the show
feels the same way as far as wanting to better themselves.

(40:54):
But I'm always one of those guysthat's just like I don't want to
hear your resolutions. I don't care.
It's always the same thing that ends up ending on like the 2nd
of February and you're just likeoh it's a long year.
I'm, I I will say this, it it itit makes me laugh when people at
around that time with towards the end of the year where
they're like fuck 2023 and it's like, OK, OK.

(41:18):
Let's, let's. Hold on a second.
Hold the phone. Yeah.
So let's talk about my 2023 for just a quick moment.
I was involved in an accident December 20, December 12th,
2022, which put me in a lot of pain well into March.
Now I travel to, I travel to Oregon, did a couple, did three

(41:45):
comedy shows with a good friend of mine.
I let's see, Still in pain. Still in pain.
Going through legal issues. Broke up with my.
Broke up with a girl. Yeah, I was seeing somebody.
Yeah, broke up with her. I.
Remember. This.
So, yeah, broke up with her. Well, actually, she broke up

(42:06):
with me. We broke up with each other
actually. She made, she sent me a message.
I didn't respond, so I was like,it's over.
So you know, I guess technicallywe're still dating.
But it it's it was never like understood, like hey, I'm not
seeing you anymore. She hasn't contacted me.
I haven't contacted her. So I kind of feel like it's

(42:28):
over. We're even.
Let's see. We go into July, my birthday,
hanging out with Marianne and doing a bunch of shows.
That was always fun. And then, oh, got a job while I
was in Seattle, Got the job August 14th.
And I think from there, even though it was very stressful,

(42:51):
I'm still happy because I'm in aI'm in a new situation and now
you know, I'm doing comedy on the road with my buddy Jonathan
Ziegel. And I met.
I met Aaron Vector. Met that guy.
He. Came out of leadership.
For us in Norfolk. So I kind of felt like with
everything that I do comedy wise, going to these different

(43:13):
places, we've been to mobile. AL for the first time twice in
one year wasn't a black Comedy Festival.
I'm back in it. So my my year, my 2023 was full
of ups and downs, but you know what I kind of felt like with
all that said, I am happy that Icould go into another year and

(43:36):
and and and and sort of fix things that need in my life that
needs to be fixed and and whatnot.
But I went. I I ended my year with a bang.
I did 6 shows in five days in Seattle.
I I don't think I could ever. I mean, I can't ask for a better
ending, but we always aim to please.
So as far as I mean I it's my favorite part of the year.

(43:58):
Again, the the day between Christmas and New Year's because
it gives me a chance to reflect and to focus on the next year.
Awesome, man. I I thought.
I remember we spoke and you saidthat you wanted to give up
comedy. I say that all the time, and

(44:22):
every time I do, Every time I do, you want to know what
happens? I kid you not.
I wish. I wish I could say that right
now. So this could happen every time
I think about quitting comedy, which is when was the last time
I thought about quitting comedy?Like an hour ago before that.
Before that, I was on stage thinking about quitting comedy.

(44:43):
I was. I did an open mic at one of my
favorite open mics in Renton, WAcalled the Local 907.
They asked me if I wanted. They always asked me if I wanted
to host anytime I'm in town. And I thought about saying no
because I'm like, I hate hostingopen mics.
It's like me shaking 25 hands because it's I got to be there.
I got to shake hands. I got to remember names.

(45:04):
I got to pronounce names. I got to sit through a show of,
well, I will say this, this particular one that I sat
through was actually was really good, was really good.
And I said yes, because, you know it's my boy James Taylor
and the fact that he even reached out to me, we go back.
I mean we go way back, but nonetheless, I don't like

(45:27):
hosting open mics, but that openmic I'll host if I'm ever there
again. And they need somebody.
But every time I think about like legitimately quitting open
an open stand up comedy, I'll get an e-mail about somebody
wanting to give me some stage time doing a spot somewhere.
I'll always I get that e-mail and then it's like, well, fuck,

(45:48):
I was going to quit like tomorrow.
But now I got to stay doing thisracket because I I I picked up
the phone because of a producer or I responded to an e-mail
like, wow, I was going to quit, but OK.
But every time, even ask Marianne, every time we think
about quitting, the phone rings and.
It's like, yeah. You can do it in July.

(46:11):
Yeah, July 17th. Shit all.
Right. I'm July 15th and our story is
very similar. I have the same like I I mean I
don't want to kill this my guy but but I.
Have so many questions right now.
I, I, I. Go ahead.
Go ahead, run it. Go ahead, run it.
Go ahead. Run it.
I need to hear your story, my friend.

(46:31):
Well, well, well, I I love IPA beers.
I'm a big, I'm a big. I was a big.
I'm a big whiskey, whiskey, vodka guy.
I actually put it down over the last year because I felt like it
was getting in the way of of my stand up.
So I don't indulge. I definitely don't do it in the

(46:53):
day of a show. I will afterwards, but.
If I'm sorry, Aaron, if I may, yeah.
In Norfolk, you drove us from from our Hotel Northampton and
those guys gave us so much alcohol.
I have to say this, I give you props on your.

(47:13):
I mean, they were literally justgiving us burden.
And Aaron? Being the responsible one was
just like, I mean, he was partaking, but not enough to get
us into a car accident on the way back.
No doubt. I.
I, I And then I drove home. And and then he drove home.

(47:35):
Which one? How far is it from Hampton to?
That was about two hours, about maybe, maybe two hours.
So, but but like I said, I've tried to stop too.
And like, you know, out of the blue, someone have called me and
that's how I end up producing that show that went up to your
spot in New York and then also taking me to a spot here in DC

(47:57):
that's sold out. You know, meeting a lot of big
comedian comedians up there likeJared Walters, Anika McClain, a
couple other people who performed on the show, even even
bigger names than those couple other people's.
They weren't even the headliners.
But my brain is slipping. And then it kind of just worked

(48:20):
the same way. Every time I want to stop,
something else happens, you know?
So you know. But also it's weird.
It's weird and my birthday July 15th too so.
There's been times where I'll take time off.
Happy. Birthday there's.
There'll. Be times where I would want to
take time off from comedy or I'mtoo busy to do comedy and it's

(48:43):
just like, I miss it so much that I start just getting like,
cranky. I don't.
I don't know if you get that. Like, I'll just be like, you
know, I could be at work or something and I'll just like
just somebody laughing that's not laughing at me, which I
guess I'm used. I should be used to that by now.
But when I hear like other people, I'm like, I should, I

(49:05):
should get on stage. I need to be on a stage and I
get like just antsy. And then when I get back up
because it's like, oh, I got this new joke that I'm dying to
try and I've been working on forlike a week.
I'm just, it's like it's like mychild.
It's like my children, you know?I'm like a child, Papa.
I get that. I get that thing that.

(49:26):
Works, I get it. Like like Jessica, when you get
like, this new sweet ass yoga move and you want to show it to
like the people that you're. You're.
Oh yeah. You know, like guys, I call this
the pretzel and you, Yeah. Do whatever.
I call this the pretzel. Call it the twist this.

(49:47):
Pretzel. Oh, shit.
Hold on. Go on, Jessica.
Yeah, I was going to say I I Jamal's right.
Like I get obsessed with like something I can't do.
I just go home and practice and just practice at home a lot and
and actually helped a lot with the my, would you call it

(50:09):
anxiety, Puerto Rican temper anxiety.
You're Puerto Rican. I'm Puerto Rican.
Yeah, I am. My name is Jeremy Arroyo.
Arroyo. Where are you from?
Uh huh Arroyo? Where am I from?
I just said Puerto Rico. What time were you born there?

(50:30):
Or were you? Oh no, my grandpa is 100% I'm.
Your grandpa. But.
For blood. I know.
I love that. After your story, I have a lot
of questions for Jamal. So I'm sorry to interrupt.
I'm so sorry. I just sorry.
How? To PR PR.
I'm done. No, I'm good.
I'm I'm. I'm done now, but I get, I get

(50:53):
it like you get angsty. Like I I get angsty because I
want to start my YouTube video again and articulate this time.
So yeah, I get that. Is that a New Year's goal that
you have? It is something that I've been
wanting to do. I guess it could be in years.

(51:16):
You know, whatever you call it. I don't believe in New Year's
resolutions. I just believe.
In actions. And you know, whatever you want
to do is just, you know, fuckinggo after it.
That's it. Yeah.
Nope. You're absolutely right.
Yeah, and even if you want to quit, just you get a phone call,

(51:37):
right? Yeah, right.
Yeah. Because because somebody,
somebody cares and somebody's thinking about you and you know,
it's it's almost, yeah, it's almost like, in a way, winning
the lottery. OK.
I get it. Sorry, Aaron.

(51:59):
What up? Oh, it is.
No, I was just. I was just fading a little bit.
Oh. There it is.
All right. The fading is over.
Jamal, I have so many questions.OK, hopefully I have the right
answers. Why did you pick me to do this
right here? Oh, OK.

(52:19):
Fair question. You know what?
Oh, really? Goodbye.
Sometimes on this podcast we have a lot of comedians and
entertainers, but sometimes I just want to talk to a regular
person. Oh, fuck you, bro.
Are you serious? Wow.
Why did you get serious again, right?
Who? Me once, God damn it.

(52:42):
All right. You know, I I we get I get tired
of asking the same question. About fuck.
Hold on. I just stood up.
I'm just. Going to He's the standing
ovation. You fuck you.
Man. God damn it.
Instead of talking to funny Jag offs, I wanted to talk to
regular Jag offs. Hilarious.

(53:06):
I won't say. That so one of the main.
Reasons why I wanted to join theshow.
Aside from that, I I really meanthat.
It's just like I read a lot of your Facebook stuff and you're,
you're, you're funny, believe. I mean, your stuff is hilarious.
So I like getting. I like getting people on there
that can think for themselves. Just going to tell you
something. So what I do on Facebook is I

(53:28):
troll everyone's post and if someone's cool about it, they're
the coolest person ever, Which Jamal was cool about it And then
I'm like, oh, they're cool. Some people are like, you're a
fucking piece. Then I just unfund them, you
know, I have too many friends. And so here, here's where we
are. It's it's it's weird because
it's just like, again, social media to me.
I mean, I don't take it that serious.

(53:49):
Like, I've had people make fun of me on social media and then
they're like, DM me just be like, hey, I'm just breaking
your balls. And it's like.
That's not cool. That's weird.
That's pussy shit. But I mean, be that as a man,
I'm not. I'm not really.
I don't really take myself seriously on Facebook at all.
Like, I'm not one of those guys.First of all.
I'm not one of those guys that Idon't put my family business out

(54:12):
there. I know a lot of people do, and
they think that I don't know if they do it so they can get pity.
But I see a lot of it and it's just like, you know, man the
fuck up, you know what I'm saying?
Like, if I have a beef with Jessica on this podcast,
whatever. I'm not going to, like, air out
my dirty laundry on social mediabecause you and I, we have some
mutual friends, but it's nobody's business.

(54:32):
I could talk to any one of you guys privately, just be like hey
look can we talk about this? Can we make sense of this?
Can we be friends or can we We could be either friends or walk
away as enemies, whatever. But I I don't, you know, I don't
take, I don't take social media seriously.
So when I see guys like you and and trust me, I got a lot of

(54:54):
friends like you on Facebook. I know what you mean.
And you guys are you guys are incredibly witty, but also, you
guys don't give a fuck about what anybody else thinks.
See, you were trying to find thecool ones, and you're a cool
one. That's why I know Jess.
Well, she gets a Puerto Rican pass.
APRP. We call it a.

(55:15):
We can roll our Rs. Because we're a pull.
Isn't that? Please do that.
Please. All right, no.
But I worked for The Onion for awhile.
I did, You know, comedy dynamics, the Giant Ass.
I have an album with them calledGroaners.
So I I want to explain this. So when I start, I did a lot of

(55:37):
puns because in in my little town we did a thing where they
gave everyone kazoos. Someone's wrestling like a
fucking thing. It's not me.
I I think Alf Al fell down or whatever his name was.
So they gave everyone kazoos andyou were allowed to blow them at
bad jokes. So we would write bad puns just

(55:58):
to walk the OK, you're gonna have to edit that out in posts.
Is he OK? Aaron, are you OK over there?
Yeah, yeah, I'm good. Wow.
What's up are? You.
Being. Chased.
Yeah, well, if you're running oh, you can hear something.

(56:18):
Oh. It sounds like you're running
through something like you're you're just like, I don't want
to fuck up the podcast. So oh.
Hold on, let me let me solve that real quick.
I'll solve it. I'll be.
I'll be in two. Seconds.
I mean, you're not even breathing heavy.
What are you really? Doing.

(56:39):
I forgot what I was. Talking about.
Carry on, Mr. Royo. Oh no.
Comedy dynamics Like the the thing.
The fucking. Droners, yeah.
Oh, so I started doing puns for that kazoo show just to get
kazoos, to make them, like, buzzat me harder, you know?
And then I started doing like clubs and people that pay 30
bucks don't want to hear puns. They get really pissed off at

(57:02):
puns, kind of, you know. So I heard.
What's his face? Jim Florentine.
I'm into prank calls, Dial trolls.
I don't think I'm allowed to call Jack Nicholson anymore.
I'll go to prison, but I'll haveto send you a couple calls to
throw in the end of this. So.
Is that like Crank yankers? No, that's that.

(57:23):
That's fake. That's fake.
That's fake stuff. That's fake stuff.
I called Jack Nicholson and justtold him a joke like, that's
that's just real, you know, I called Dick Van Dyke and told
him a joke from my ACT. I called Dick Van Dyke and he,
well, I called him from shit. I called him from.
I don't want to say that. I called him from.

(57:45):
Yeah, a a lady's phone. And he was like, oh, you're
here. It was late.
It was like 10:00 PM. He's like, why don't you.
Oh, it's Ricky Lake's phone. Yeah.
He's like, why don't you come inside?
Well, so I guess it was 7:00 PM at that point.
And I'm like, no, my name is Jeremy, I'm a comedian.
I have a joke. Dick Van Dyke had a cousin who
wanted to be an actor too, but couldn't get work because of his

(58:06):
name caught car lesbian. And he was like, oh Jesus.
And he hung up on me. And that is your Dick Van Dyke
story. Sure.
But SO I noticed that people, SoI called the Comedy Store.
Well, not the literal one, but the you can just call places.

(58:28):
Here's the biggest thing that you guys take from this.
Tell someone what you want to doand you can do it because I told
this place. Hey, well, also Jim Florentine,
he found an old notebook and he just read it in the studio with
nothing. Do you remember that?
Do you remember that? No, no, no.
I've heard of it, but. Oh, got it.

(58:49):
Oh, he he's like, Oh dear. Oh, like this would fucking kill
in front of an audience if they knew that they could Boo.
So I I used the kazoo thing and I made it.
So hey, let's let them Boo. And so that's what Gooner's is.
It's out on all that bullshit onthe big bullshit with everyone.
I'm on a weird al, so motherfucker and me and Marianne

(59:12):
have cancer. I was excited to talk to her,
damn it. Yeah, I mean, I hope she comes
on. I know she told me her procedure
was supposed to be like 4 hours long, but I did see a picture of
her. So I think she's, I think she's
done with the procedure. So she knows we're recording.
I hope she pops in and tells us about it.

(59:33):
But you said you just had certain recent surgery as well,
right? Yeah, I I know.
Well, this is live. Look at this.
Yeah, boom. They took my.
Wait, how do I do this? Look, they took a boom.
Go look at the fat. That's from the beer.
I had a stage one in the kidney,so it didn't.

(59:55):
It just started making it. So I have to drink less.
Bud Light. So did they?
Did they? So it worked out then everything
worked out fine. Yes, I'm, I'm fine now.
I just walk with a cane and God,God bless, my grandpa has
cancer. He's not doing treatment.
My dad has cancer in his throat.He's doing so 3 generations.

(01:00:18):
Like, fuck that shit. You know?
So, so weird. Yeah, the weirdest thing.
I love you. Yeah, I'm so cool.
You're Puerto Rican. Tell me a Puerto Rican story,
please. Well, I just recently learned
that there were two divisions ofPuerto Rico.
There is a an A tribe that they call themselves Bombays and

(01:00:47):
yeah, to be a part of it, it's like kind of like you know the
50s where you had the greasers and the non greasers.
Right. The soda Soda pop.
What was it? Oh, the oh, what was it?
The Outsiders the. Outsiders.
Yeah, yeah, Cherry pop. Oh, I want to leave my daughter
that. That'll never happen.

(01:01:08):
Yeah, that was a good movie. No, I recently read a story
that, you know some people were divided in that way and and you
had a they had a special ritual dance that that you come up

(01:01:29):
with. They came up with then that
basically Puerto Rico was divided at one point.
But yeah, and let's see, I was born in bonsai in 19 something
and came to the states. I grew up in the country.

(01:01:55):
And. Like Jamal here, except he grew
up in the country. Country.
I was country and yeah, I went to the same.
I graduated with the same peoplethat I went to kindergarten with
and then yeah, Lake City. Now my where my parents still

(01:02:17):
stay. Yeah, it's it's like 4 high
schools now. It's crazy.
My my nephew is the first class of one of the new schools and it
was walkable from my neighborhood and I was like,
man, I had to you know, I ride my bike 5 miles to to school.
Oh. Gosh, yeah, I I took the bus

(01:02:42):
well into my senior. Year.
Me too. You want to talk about
embarrassing? No, it's not it.
It's not embarrassing. I had.
To I had to take it to 16. I had I had the same driver from
kindergarten all the way to high.
School. Oh, wow.
Yes, that's kind of cute, though.
Yes, it is cute because she played nothing but rock like

(01:03:05):
70's rock. Oh, well, that's lucky.
We had a a assistant driver thatwe drove crazy.
So she knew what I knew her like.
It was crazy. Like, like you were just my, you
know, kindergarten and middle school and high school and and
eventually that got too cool to ride the bus, so.

(01:03:27):
So you like the So you So you love the Is it Mafungo?
Mafungo. Oh.
Yeah, I did. I sure did.
I had blessed parents, blessed mom that could cook mafungos
para Lau. I had a.

(01:03:49):
Puerto Rican mom so much. Yes.
And it's and it's really irritating because I, you know I
I graduated with a culinary artsdegree.
You know. Yeah.
I would ask my mom, hey, you know hey, how do you make this
And watching her and she's like oh just a little bit of this and
I'm like I go buy ingredients and I cannot do she's a.

(01:04:13):
Genius I hate. Just dab of this, a little bit
of this and I'm like no I. Got another ingredient?
We need to be best friends. Oh my God, you're like, you're
like a if my sister wasn't a a Can't say that word.
Not that we're censored, but it's just a bad word.
And hey, Brittany, you're being a bitch recently.

(01:04:34):
Can you stop it? So are so as everyone.
So, so where are the So everyonehere is from.
Like. Puerto Rico, no.
But where do you guys perform at?
So what areas generally like where do you come out of?

(01:04:57):
From Ponce, we moved to Clear Lake and Lake City.
My immediate, my immediate filename.
Family's here and then I have family scattered in the US and
then Puerto Rico. So comedy comedy wise, are you?
Are you? She's not a comedian.
She's not. OK, I'm not.

(01:05:18):
I'm not a comedian. I'm I'm just a good friend.
OK, cool, cool. No, no, I didn't.
That's what I was. He thought I wasn't a comedian.
And then he's like, oh, you're from The Onion and you have an
album on Comedy Academics and you have that podcast and you
talk to Jack. You talked to Jack Nicholson
every other day. I was 1000% now you're a

(01:05:39):
comedian, 1000% is it? It's off the table with you.
No, we me and Jamal go way back like 2000.
Two Miss Ross battles. 2000. Something Well I didn't so Jamal
I I he's here's here's how I goton here is I I just trolled the

(01:06:00):
fuck out of everyone Back when Iwas a big comedian I had a
bajillion people and so I just started like talking shit and if
someone's cool about it I like love them more and then they
show up more on my feed and if they're a Dick I'm like they're
like you're a fucking Dick. I'm like, wow, you didn't
understand the joke and you justunfollow them.

(01:06:20):
Then they get offended that you unfollowed and I was like, well,
fuck you and you know. But what?
Well, one thing I had I like, This is for me, honestly, like,
let me just tell a quick story because like when I sent Jamal,
Jamal sent out a thing on Facebook and he was like, if

(01:06:41):
you're interested in doing the show or send me your tape.
I'm a stooge. And.
And So what? No, but what's funny is that,
like, so I send him my tape and he and he, he calls me back.
He's like, dude, all right, I watched your tape, man.
I'm not really sure if you're funny yet, but let me just look

(01:07:03):
at this a couple times to make sure.
And now? But it was cool though.
I appreciated the honesty. Like, I'm like, I was just happy
for the feedback, you know what I'm saying?
Like like like the man took it out of his date.
It's like, actually contact me, you know what I'm saying?
And was like, yo, wait, hold on.He's like, look, I'm going to

(01:07:23):
listen to you a few more times, just.
To make sure. I'm not too fucked up and I
didn't drink too much whiskey too much.
Beer. This is the.
Thing. This is the thing.
Hold on. This is the thing.
Yeah, I took it. Hold on.
Hey Jamal, can you make a a phone call?
Can you make a phone call if I gave you a phone number?

(01:07:48):
Really, who am I calling? Jack Nicholson.
He's too. You know what?
He is too old. I don't even think he knows.
No, he's not. I I I call him all the time.
It's either his daughter or he answers.
OK, you know what? Yeah, Microphone.

(01:08:10):
But you have to do it on speakerthough.
OK, I will. Oh.
Hold on, you have to edit it. You have to edit this out of the
podcast. Yeah, we don't do edits in the
podcast, so. How do I give you the number?
I'm sorry, how do I give you thenumber?
Use the chat. Oh, OK.

(01:08:33):
Where the fuck is that? All right.
I just want to. Oh, I'll bear.
Are you married? Jess kids.
No, because. Don't stop talking.
Stop talking to her. All right here, all right?
This motherfucker thinks I'm nobody and this is bullshit, all

(01:08:53):
right? Am I really are?
You sure that? Here, here's my question.
Are you sure I'm not? Oh wow.
OK, I see it. No, Harry.
So here's what you do with this number.
You're not calling for an interview.
You are someone important that needs to talk to Jack or call
him John. It's usually the daughter or the
maid. He's usually busy or not busy or

(01:09:14):
he just answers. Every time I've talked to him he
just answers and he's he's in the right.
I think I literally talked to him so much.
I got him out of his funk and got him back out of his.
I'm not. I'm not fucking around, man.
You need to follow dial trolls. OK, so with that being said, I I

(01:09:35):
guess, well, this will be a first.
Well, you don't have the prank call.
I mean, you can just say hi, youknow?
Well, I don't want a. Prank call because I respect the
man at his work. Well, right.
You just say, hey, I love you. Well, the first time I prank
called, and it wasn't a prank. I just said hey, I loved you as
the Joker. He was like, all right, cool,
you know. OK, Jeremy here.

(01:09:56):
Here's what I'll do. I'll.
I shall call him. I'm pretty sure you just sent me
the number. Oh, I did.
That's it. Don't you better delete that out
of the SO. Jeremy, Jeremy, where do you
perform out of in? The Midwest, Let's call it that.
I used to live in Chicago and itgot real expensive after I got

(01:10:16):
fired from my law firm job. OK all.
Right, so I'm going. To South side.
I did perform in the South Side once, man, at a club.
It was so cool. Oh man, it was a beautiful.
It was a A. Super all Black club and it was
so annoying because it was jazz acts and between they did 2

(01:10:40):
comedians and I was so new. I was like first gear new and we
it was super South side like 95.What are they down there?
I don't even remember. It was like 10 years ago and the
the band stayed on stage like some little shit and they were
like, I would tell a joke and itwouldn't go over and they were

(01:11:01):
just. Like boop boop on the base.
It fucking. Sucks.
But yeah, I had AI went to school in University, Nebraska.
That's. Close to Chicago?
Yeah, yeah, 1000%. My roommate was from from the
South side all. Right.
Call. Call Jack.
Call Jack. Call Jack.

(01:11:21):
All right, Call Jack. It's ringing.
It's Beverly Hills, CA. This is hilarious.
She's probably his daughter. She's going to.
Be Nicholson's. She always does that.
What if Jack answers? Sometimes he answers, and it's
so fun to talk to. Him.
Hello May. I help you.
Hi. Yes.
Is Jack available? Oh my.

(01:11:45):
Say, Colin. Oh, this is a a good friend of
his. Oh OK, I have to announce the
name when I call this. House.
Oh, that's fine. Let him know Jamal Harrington is
on the line. Jamal.
Harrington. Yes, ma'am.
OK, hold. On.
Please this this can't be happening.

(01:12:08):
Oh, what's happening, dude? Dude, if if you go to my
Facebook and go to my reels, I'mpretty.
Yeah, can you tell him he's one of the He is such a great joker
in the Batman movies. Just tell him that.
He'll know exactly what I mean when I say that.
OK. And and the phone?
Number. Yeah, 917-924-0061 I'll.

(01:12:38):
Send him the. Message.
Thank you very much. You've been a great help.
You've just made our day. OK, you're.
Welcome, bye, bye. Bye, bye and now you're about to
get 10,000 prank calls from being live on the podcast.
No here I I can prove this to you right now.
I believe you're right. That was correct.
I mean, that was. Come on.

(01:13:02):
No, no. Let me do something real quick.
I want to show you something. Let me make sure it's.
Wait. Do you see my reels on my?
We was this close to getting Jack Nicholson on his Damn.
Podcast that was. Getting sued at the same time,
but we're this. Close.
No, we don't. Get sued because you tell him.
Say, hey, we're on the line. All you have to do is every do

(01:13:25):
you say, hey, we're on the line,all right.
I think Queen Latifah just hanging up on me.
I'm just trying to get her fucking phone number.
She has a beautiful ring. Oh my God, when you call her Her
voicemail. Goes, please leave a call.

(01:13:52):
So, so yeah, we were this close to getting Jack.
I mean, that's wow. I don't know.
It's kind of intimidating. I have to think off the top of
my head, but now I don't know how I feel about having Jack
Nicholson's number. Well, he also had.
He has your number too as well now.
Jamal. Hey, that's cool.
He. Can call me?
I don't give a shit. We have a.

(01:14:14):
Here's the thing, me and Jack Nicholson have a lot to talk
about. He is responsible for a lot of
things in my childhood. So no doubt, no doubt.
No doubt. He is a superstar.
He he, I mean, I I just. I just hope he's not on the
list. You know what?
No, I'm sorry. Oh, no way.

(01:14:34):
Wow if. He's on that list.
My my heart would rip. Don't get me wrong.
I have the usual suspects on. Oh, hey, hey I.
Found it. Hey, hey, hold on.
I found it. I found it.
Let me text you this number. It's Queen Latifah's number.
You ready? Oh, I am not calling Queen
Latifah, no. No, no.
Here's the thing. She won't answer.

(01:14:56):
She won't answer. But you have to hear your
voicemail, OK? You have to hear your voice.
Back I. Have to hear her voicemail OK,
you you're sending this via. I'm just so mad you thought, I'm
you're just a piece of shit thattrolled me on fucking Facebook
and you're like, well. Hey.
I don't. I don't even like to be on
Modest. But now I'm kind of pissed right

(01:15:16):
here. Call.
Coon Latifah. Maybe it's my answer.
Oh. Man, you could put that up.
Well, no. I love.
I love Jamal. But God damn Uncle Sam.
I thought he was like, oh, I heard about you.
We're so cool. But no, I'm just a piece of
shit. But now listen to this.
No, but listen to her voicemail.It's the coolest thing you'll

(01:15:37):
ever hear. Then I'll get out of here
because I have cancer so well. No, I it's cured.
But I'm getting so tired. Queen Jamal, I love you.
I love you so much. OK, so this must be Queen
Latifah's number here. Yes, yes, yes.
But here's the thing, she. Pop it up.
She never answers, so if you cancall from a block number but
listen to her voicemail, she sings, OK, so.

(01:15:59):
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to play that right now on
speaker. Her mailbox is full because
she's getting too many damn offers.

(01:16:22):
I I've called her every day for the last I.
Don't know. Have you ever Have you ever
spoken to her before? Yeah, my friend called her once.
He said that her, her, her brother was like kidnapped.
It was really weird. But like, yeah, we prank.
We used to prank call celebrities a lot and then one

(01:16:43):
guy on YouTube just basically just snitched.
So we just kind of stopped, you know?
Do you have do you have a list of celebrities, A new list, a
revamped list maybe of celebrities you would like to
talk to or prank call? I have a huge list of that of

(01:17:04):
prank. You can talk to Andy Dick
anytime you want, basically. Wait, yo, let me see if he's You
want to see if Andy Dick? Oh, well, he is a fun one too.
Let's see if Andy's up here. All right then.
Then I'll get out of here because my wife will be happy.
Because I I thought, you see, here's the thing, I thought I
was like, he's either going to be mad at me for trolling him,

(01:17:27):
but I actually like you. Because here's the thing, yeah,
we're fate. Like fate.
But this is. I love your shit, man.
I really like it. Well, I appreciate it.
I I really do. Oh.
I really enjoyed having you on because now I got two
celebrities numbers who. Yeah, don't.
Don't abuse that. Because if you contact them

(01:17:48):
twice, here's the law, you can prank call them and you can't
play it for one more year. If you contact them twice and
they don't want it, it's stalking, so be careful.
OK, I'll just let him know that I I wrote a movie and I wanted
to play the old guy. Oh, well, yeah, you can.
This is how this is how do the rest of this podcast.

(01:18:13):
Right here, Here. Call Andy Dick.
All right, My wife's bitching about how hot it is in the
house, so I have to go to the mode.
What do I do? All right, go to Cool save.
Let's go to 65. Let's go.
I'm going to turn on the 63°, just just for spite.
All right. Here.
Call Andy Dick. So.

(01:18:35):
It's Andy Dick. All right.
Wow. I like.
I like that you bring this podcast to a new.
I'm just fucking mad for spite because you thought it was a
fucking nobody trolling. You.
No, I man, I must be doing it wrong because I can't even get
it's. It's my fault because I do.
I just, we've been friends for awhile.

(01:18:56):
But I will be trolling people that I and but here's the thing
and I'm like, oh, your kids ugly.
And they're like, yeah, he is And I'm like, oh, you're really
funny. It's like, wow, you fucking
suck. And then I blocked them.
You know, 'cause I had too many.I had 5000.
And it's like, no, it's we're done here.
And then I switched my thing to a, a following thing.
So I can just. I just want to unfollow everyone

(01:19:19):
and just see like. I'm.
And you didn't call him? I'm about to hold on one.
OK, so I. Got He has a funny voicemail, so
there's no way it's not him. The person you have dialed is
not able to receive calls at this time.
Really. Yeah, dialed the right number,
Yeah. I dialed the right number.

(01:19:41):
So bad. Maybe he's get maybe a lot of
people are calling him because of the whole Phil Hartman thing
and they're blaming him for it. I'd change my number too, like a
bunch of times. That's a that's a long one to
go. Call Jack Nicholson one more
time before I get off here. I just.

(01:20:03):
I feel like. Man, if you call they they're
just they're just trolling you. I'm trying to see if anyone's
funny here. You still have the Jack
Nicholson number. Am I now on the phone anymore?

(01:20:30):
OK, so did you want me call it again?
Get. I mean hit him up, man.
Oh here we go. Oh have a funny idea.
I mean oh here's the funny one. Shit.

(01:20:52):
I don't have to go in a minute. But here's I just you guys.
I know he thinks he I'm, he's a piece of shit, but sometimes you
hit some. Where does he go?
All right, that number right there is Tiffany Haddish.

(01:21:16):
Yo, my internet's cutting out. So.
I don't know. I had a really good in here book
to call. Hello.
I can't hear shit. What's going on?
Is this my? Fault.
Oh, hello. Yep.

(01:21:37):
Did he mute me, you son of a bitch?
No, I muted myself. So.
This last number you sent me wasTiffany Haddish's number.
Yes, she answers. Let's see what her voicemail
sounds like. Oh, she did Joe Koi's.
He's got a really funny one. I like Joe Koi.

(01:21:59):
He's really funny. Yeah, he's.
Oh my God, he's amazingly talented.
I love him. He's a.
So funny, my mom asked me if I wanted to go to this concert.
I'm like, I'm just going to texthim and see if I can go to the
show. OK, let's see.
Tiffany Haddish, I think if she answers, I'm going to be nice.
Well, you don't have to prank them.

(01:22:20):
I'm just giving you the number. So when I when I call people,
I'm like, I I have prank called.Oh my God, I have prank called
Jack Nichols said like four times.
It's pretty messed up. I will.
I'll e-mail you, e-mail [e-mail] after this.

(01:22:44):
I'll send you those and you can put them on this.
And let's get this podcast pumped up.
You know, you guys have a couple100 listeners, right?
Sure. And like, what city?
Sure, why not. I mean that that that that we're
trying to, we're trying to reach, we're trying to eclipse
that number all. Right call.

(01:23:04):
Call that number. I'll definitely, I'll I'll
definitely call her, you know Tiffany Haddish, she's actually,
you know. She's.
Really climbed the ladder and and and rub double S with some
really good comics. She's she's talented herself.

(01:23:24):
I know her stories. You know, I like hearing comics
that kind of like, I was just listening to that whole Katt
Williams thing today. Two hours and like 46 minutes of
this stuff. I'm not fully finished with it.
I'm like halfway. Through I can't get through the
whole thing. The whole thing about Steve
Harvey and Cedric the Entertainer, I'm like, please,

(01:23:45):
God, don't let this be true. But why would Kat lie about, you
know, and on top of that, some people who've actually done some
investigating? Well, Kat, Kat said that he got
a seasoned assist from Disney. But here's The thing is Cat in
the Hat is Doctor Seuss and Pixar and Universe Universal.

(01:24:10):
So that's a lie. I.
Don't know. I kind of feel like, I mean it.
The story sounds so crazy it. I mean, Disney will sue you just
to sue you. And they can and they can win.
Does these nuts Hold on? I'm trying to find out that you

(01:24:31):
guys have to hear this. Have to hear this.
Wait, did you call Jack Nicholson back?
I did not the I had already. I left a message with his
caretaker. I mean, let's face it, you know,
he's retired. I I mean, he's retired.

(01:24:52):
He's not. He's not coming.
Back, he's. Here's The thing is, he used to
not come. He used to not come out for like
4 or five years. And then I started calling him
and talking to him. And then he started like, like,
yeah, I think, I I think I savedhis life, honestly, trying to

(01:25:16):
find you Joe. Joe Coy's voicemail It's the
funniest thing you've ever heard.
Are you going to play it? No, I'm trying to.
He's. I'm calling him on the other
line in my right ear. Yeah.
It's so he says, like you have just reached some bald ass

(01:25:37):
bitch. Fuck you leave a message,
motherfucker. And I don't know how to play it
on this show. I'm not the lady, OK?
I I give up. I give up.
Fuck this. Fuck this whole show.
God damn it. Oh, you know who's a fun one?
All right, never mind. I guess I got to go.
How are you guys doing? Thanks for having me.

(01:25:59):
Well, do you do you want to plugsomething before you head on
out? Just dial trolls.
Dial trolls wait. And.
What was the name? What was the name of that comedy
album you were talking about? Groaners.
Yeah, we told the audience. They're allowed to Boo at the
puns. Were they able to find groaners?
Everywhere. You know, Spotify, Apple,

(01:26:22):
whatever. All right, I wish.
Check that out. I love you.
Thank you for having me, man. No problem.
Thanks for being a part of the show.
Jeremy Arroyo, everybody. Thank you.
All right, Jeremy, Good to meet you in Puerto Rican, Lady.
Bye. Love you guys.

(01:26:44):
Bye. See.
You guys. All right.
Let me see as I'm looking at thetime here.
I still think we we still got. How are you doing, Jessica?
You hanging in there? I'm good.
I'm good snacking. What about you, Aaron?

(01:27:08):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm still here.
I'm, I'm just like I said, I'm, you know, I'm, I was going to
run. I'm going to run out a little
later. But I told you I'm going to,
I'm. I dedicated myself to you Jamal,
and I'm going to have to give you you know ready to close it
out and then I got a little because I'm trying to start a

(01:27:29):
little, you know, some showcasing down here in DC So.
So I can definitely bring you down here and get you, get you,
you know some play down here in the city return that favor so.
Oh, well, I I do appreciate that.
See, that's how Comics network, yo.
Yeah. Are you are you in DC right now?

(01:27:49):
Yeah, yeah. Well, no, I'm in.
I'm in Silver Springs right now.My buddy's down there.
Can you guys hear me? When I can?
You hear me? Oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we can hear. You.
I can hear you. This is your video.
You can hear me right. Now, OK.
OK. So you guys can hear me good.
Yes. OK, so yeah, so I, I, I we've

(01:28:10):
been running an open mic. You know, we had some really,
you know, dope comedians come through, you know, guys doing
some things and now we're tryingto, we just got a call from
somebody today to try to move itinto a more prominent spot.
So you know what, we can really probably try to bring some
people in, be a nice event, you know?

(01:28:33):
So yeah, so just trying to just trying to run with it, that's
all. I'm just going to run down there
and meet the owner and then comeright back.
Like I said, I got to do surgerynext week, so I'll be down for
probably about a week. So that's why I haven't really
like tried to book any kind of or try to like go into anything
right now, just because I know Igot to go through this process.

(01:28:56):
But. Where do you live?
At Aaron, I live in Silver Spring, MD, which is right out,
literally right outside of DC. Oh, you live in that pretty
water area? No, that's the Virginia side I
think you're talking about. You talking about like when
you're when you see the monumentand all that?

(01:29:18):
No, not the monument. Maryland.
Baltimore. Right there by the Raven City.
No, Baltimore is. Baltimore and DC are kind of
like two different cities. Baltimore is more like New York.
Ish. Ish.
I don't, I don't see, I don't see the compliment in that

(01:29:40):
statement. Well I would say it's you know
it's it's it's kind of got its own identity more than than and
it's more relates to I would saylike as going towards Philly,
New York you know in that statement let's put it that way
and DC kind of has its own kind of like we're very distinct

(01:30:05):
because we've just been around so many politics coming up.
We got so many we're so individualized as people at one
point you know we were you know we are minority culture that was
very wealthy. So we are very we're we're very
different on this side in regards to how that moves like

(01:30:26):
like like guys, like guys seen their families be successful.
You know, I would say that in that way, but don't get me wrong
now, you know all the parrot, all the things that happened to
every other city has happened toour city as well.
And and you know that's where you talk about what do you call

(01:30:47):
that again where where you know where people are moving in, what
do they call that again, the whole movement you're not
talking about. Gentrification are you?
Gentrification so but but it wasa push by a whole idea of course
of crack things like that. So you know, all those things
play a part in where we're at right now.

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But I just think we have our area definitely has its own
identity, but I think a lot of guys are individualized.
We're not like like we don't have gang culture here, you know
what I mean? Like, like like people were like
you might have had some St. gangs, but you didn't.
You don't really have like, you know, gang culture or anything

(01:31:33):
like that. Like, we don't, we don't fall
into any of that. Like guys are trying to be their
own boss here, you know what I mean?
It's just kind of different fromwhere you go around to other
areas. And I'm just talking from a
minority perspective. But as far as the whole area,
we're very wealthy in the whole area.
It's called the DMV now. It's District, Maryland and

(01:31:55):
Virginia all together tied up. And you can you can basically
like I can travel to Virginia inin in 20 minutes.
I can go DC 5 minutes. So we're all tied up in this
blue in between 495 which goes which loops around the whole
area. So but yeah so but as far as the

(01:32:16):
comedy goes a lot of guys are, are are stepping up me, you know
a lot of guys came from here. Dave Chappelle came from Silver
Spring East from Silver Spring. This is my other guy who played
on Living Color. He's here right now at the
Baltimore Comedy Factory. God this.
Kenny guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's he's
there a lot. He's, yeah, he's he's.

(01:32:38):
Around that area a lot. Yeah, so he's from Silver
Spring. I want to say there was there's
one more too that I'm missing out.
Oh, Martin Lawrence is from thisarea.
So there's a lot of guys who made it from this area in in
regards to comedy, but you know you, I think Katt Williams.

(01:33:01):
Did Katt Williams call in the mouth?
No, I'm just. I'm just joking with that.
I just know that that Internet was buzzing and in my mind I'm
like, either Katt Williams is a genius or, you know, or ain't
nobody really messing with him, you know what I mean?
Like, you know, he's just kind of, you know, he's a lone

(01:33:23):
soldier or something, you know, but.
It yeah. Either way he came to Houston
2002 one and I I was like AI went to.
I was sitting front row and I was hoping not to get picked on,
you know, because yeah, like thepick on the front row.
But he was funny. And the basketball player I came

(01:33:51):
from North Carolina. He was a rookie that came to the
think. Charlotte Hornets.
Anyway, no, no, actually not theCharlotte Hornet.
He he went to Carolina. Yeah, he went to get.

(01:34:12):
No, he went to Carolina. And yeah, I saw him there with
that that Victoria model, the one that was on shape
Chappelle's shape. Dave Chappelle's piss on you
video. Oh, OK.
That that, that, that, that. Yeah.

(01:34:35):
I know who you're talking about,but I don't.
I forgot her name, though. I know you're talking.
About it starts with AV. Oh, I know you don't got the
light brown eyes. Yeah, she she was popular.
She. She.
Was on her way to being a superstar and.
Something like she was dating that that basketball player.

(01:34:58):
But he he came up big. I forgot his name.
Damn. But they were there and I was
like, oh and that's you know what's his name.
And he turned around and not hishead.
But yeah, I thought Katt Williams was always funny.
There's he there's there's nothing really against them

(01:35:19):
Other. I mean he was in Norbit.
I love Norbit. Norbit's one of my favorite
movies. I I I love him in the Boondocks,
'cause I love the voice, a pimp named Slick Bat.
I mean, I don't. I was watching his the interview
on Club Shay Shay today and it was just like, I mean he talked

(01:35:43):
aside from him shitting on, well, telling his truths with,
you know, subject, the entertainer entertainer and
Steve Harvey. I mean there was some things
that he had said that was that kind of you know about the about
how like his work ethic and stand up comedy where he has

(01:36:04):
been the, you know it it it sounds like it's a you know I've
heard some of these stories likelike this before.
Where? You know all comics want to do.
All people, all comics, no matter what level you are, just
want to be comics and the thingsthat they go through and the
things that they sacrifice to get to where they want to be.

(01:36:27):
And I respected his story because I know, I mean me and
Aaron probably know a handful ofpeople just like that.
Just just and and it was and andand you know, it spoke to me.
You know him just being the bestthat he could be in one city

(01:36:49):
going to another. I believe he went from Ohio to
Florida, Florida to Oklahoma, Oklahoma to Sacramento, CA,
Sacramento to Oakland, Oakland down to LA And you know, in his
mind, I guess it, you know, he felt OK, I'm, I'm, I'm funny

(01:37:10):
here or OK my goal, you know, hewas talking about black and
white audiences and not for nothing when he said that, I
kind of felt seen because I do well in white audiences, but in
all black audiences, I'm a man without a country sometimes.
You know what I'm saying? And that's what I'm trying to
learn, how to, you know, the audience to crack.

(01:37:34):
But you know how it is when white people but you know we
love Kevin Hart. They loved him first and then
black people was like, yeah, since he's our skin color, we're
going to, you know, we like him because you know he's one of us.
But you know, I could, I could relate to what he was saying as
far as the black and white audience says.
Because I go through that all the time.

(01:37:56):
Yeah. Oh, no doubt.
I mean, that's a that's a balancing act.
I'm trying to, you know, figure it out too.
It's funny because like honestly, like I grew up like I,
you know, I mean, I might not look like, you know, much.
I was a ball player. You know, I I I I'm a
scholarship athlete, football and basketball.

(01:38:18):
I lost all my scholarships because I sold drugs.
I faced 10 to 20 coming out of high school.
So and it's funny like now I find myself doing better in
crowds, I would say that are predominantly white, honestly.

(01:38:39):
But it's like me also trying to tap into myself as well.
And I don't know if that's like sometimes you got to just like
kind of beat you. Because I I understand you.
Like when he said, let's put it back on what he said.
He's like, I have to switch certain things up for each
crowd. So I do feel like when I deal

(01:39:02):
with a certain type of crowd, I may have to curse more or I may
have to be a certain way more inthis instance.
But then when I get around another crowd, I feel like I can
I can go to certain levels and certain things I can do
differently. Why not talk to certain crowds
as well? So sometimes you got to, I feel

(01:39:26):
like sometimes you got to be quick hidden and sometimes you
can you you can get that time when people are a little more
patient with your actual deliveries.
Does that make sense? Yeah, no, it actually does.
No, it does. I mean the thing, you know, when
I look at my ACT. Well, I guess you know what, I'm

(01:39:48):
sorry, Jamal. Let's take it back to what you
just said, because sometimes in some crowds.
Right. People only respect you when
you're respected by others and so if you come in with respect
then they give you all that love.
But if you ain't got no respect.They ready to chop you down a

(01:40:13):
little further on the first instance, They don't even let it
get off. You know, but but you know what,
though? My thing is, see, The thing is,
I think I, I mean, I consider myself a professional.
So you know, whenever I write jokes, whenever I write jokes, I

(01:40:36):
never ask myself, is this for a black audience or is this for a
white audience? Because if I tell this joke and
and and it and it appears to be a black joke and I'm in a room
full of white people and they laugh, then it's just, hey, it's
a human race joke. You know what I'm saying?
And and and a lot of my act. Yes, I do.
I talk about race a bit, but what I don't do is I try not to

(01:41:00):
alienate a certain. Group.
Like, I don't have. So actually I wrote one joke
about a Puerto Rican, and I toldit and and I told it to the lady
and I wrote it down as I'm telling it to her because as I'm
the more I'm learning about her,the the more I'm just like,
you're not Puerto Rican, you know?

(01:41:21):
I'm just like right now. This is the list of stuff.
But she's Puerto Rican as fuck. How do I know?
Because she looks like she's 65.But she's actually, no, she
looks 40, but she's like 60. You know what I'm saying?
So it's just like and and it's almost like, you know, whenever
you go to like the Brazilian DayParade, you see like everybody's

(01:41:42):
all tight, no matter how old they are.
You know what I'm saying? It blows my mind.
I'm like, oh, you're 80, but I still, you know, will give you
the time of day. But.
So. But I don't.
Yeah, I try. I So whenever I'm writing jokes,
I try not to because you're supposed to read your audience

(01:42:03):
anyway. If I have a joke that somebody's
not a group of people's not going to get, I just won't tell
it because it doesn't make sense.
I'm just wasting my time. No, I actually make fun of
myself a lot because like, even like like the other day I came
out like right off the spot at when I was up for new comic of
the year here. My first joke I came out with

(01:42:24):
was, I know what you guys are saying, a black man with a man
bun. And right off the top, this
black dude was like, uh huh. I was like, see what I'm saying?
See what I'm saying? So that was the first that was.
The first thing I thought when you knocked on my hotel door to
pick us up. Exactly.

(01:42:45):
A black. And I was like, you can't trust
it. You can't trust it.
And then I went into, well, there's a lot of things I don't
trust either. You know what I'm saying?
So I was like, you know, I had these nice flowing dreads and
everything. You know what I'm saying?
But, you know, police brutality,that's already high enough.
I didn't want to contribute to that.
You know what I'm saying? Then then I went on to say,

(01:43:06):
well, you know, I just want to sell cocaine and get back to my
family peacefully. You know what I'm saying?
Like, like, so that's kind of how I went into that whole
thing. Like it's it's a balancing act,
right? Just back and forth with me.
But it's all about really makingfun of my experiences coming up.
Because I did. I have, I have some, I've been

(01:43:27):
in the hood in my whole family'shood and I've also been a part
of success where I've been actually had, you know, bunch of
friends who don't look like me, so.
So. It's it's a beautiful thing, but
trying to find that balance in between is, is, is is kind of
like that that groove, you know?So, so Speaking of the hood,

(01:43:51):
tell me what is it like? OK.
I've had my show, oh God. I've had my show of living in a
hood. I I.
Yeah, yeah. Now I could.
Like I said, you know, it's a beautiful thing.
It's a beautiful thing. But like I said it, you know,

(01:44:13):
you know it's it's always this weird balance because you know
people, people I was always I became different once I left to
them, I became different. I I was no longer earned.
You know they used to call me earn in the hood.
Then I come back to them. Now they making fun of me.

(01:44:34):
Oh you're Aaron. You know they'll they'll even
like say my name you know you're.
You're Aaron, the comedian. You think you're fucking funny?
Exactly. You're Aaron.
Oh, you can read now, you know, like, yes, motherfucker, I can
read. You know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, but you don't realize all the pressure and

(01:44:54):
all, you know, the anger and hate until you leave something.
Until you leave something. You don't realize that because
they used to call me Blind Mellow Yellow.
That was a that was a signified hood name.
Blind Mellow Yellow. I'm blind Glasses.
I'm real chill and I'm yellow. My skin's a lot lighter than

(01:45:16):
most, so I was like, The Who, The dude who gave me that.
The dude who gave me that is a genius.
Yeah, he's. A superstar.
You know what? It's the lighting.
It's the way that this light is positioned.
So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm light skinned.
But yeah, it's just, you know, the light I don't have.

(01:45:38):
There's only one bulb in this 4Ttype.
Yeah. If it was brighter, I would, you
know, I mean I I. Got a antenna?
Like. Radiating off of me right now,
so, but I'm just saying like I made fun of that.
Like that guy was a superstar. That guy who gave that dude gave
everybody a name. You know the the the guy who

(01:46:00):
everyone looked up to the dope, he gave everybody their names.
You know some were were a lot more tractors than that one.
Some people still to this day hate, hate their life because of
the name you gave them you know.So it's it's those ideas I like
to talk about versus me being out here and growing up in the

(01:46:22):
burbs, you know, having that opportunity as well.
So just having that bouncing act, man, and not trying to be
hard, having to get rid of that mistake of feeling like I got to
see this macho guy, you know, that's what it is.
You feel like you got to be tough.
I love life. I love life when.

(01:46:47):
When you say you got to be toughor you're not talking about like
in the comedy game. Are you just talking about are
you guys here? It sounds like you're sounds
like you're slumping a floor. Is that me?
Are you at a club? It's tough.

(01:47:10):
I don't. Know where it's coming from.
OK. It's probably, I mean.
I don't even have, I'm not even using my headphones, so I don't
even know why I had those in. But I I mean, I'm just talking
about, you know, we people grow up so tough and they feel like
they got to have these egos and it's so hard to get rid of like
I had to. I had to shed all those things,

(01:47:31):
man. I I I remember coming home from
school and I actually, I got ridof all my clothes.
Like I wore the same clothes because I just didn't want to
have anything to do with material.
All I did is I had to reread books just so I could because I
was a ball player. All they did was give you, you
know, when you're a ball player they just give you stuff and

(01:47:52):
it's life is easy, you know, and, and, and and I had to come
home and I had to change my old folks.
I had to read books of, you know, enlightening books of of
just how to be a good person andand appreciate everything that's
around you, type what like spiritual things, you know?
And I actually went to Ethiopia and got baptized, you know?

(01:48:14):
Yeah, Yeah. So, like, I had to go through
all these changes, man, just to just to come back to being a
regular, like a regular person, because I.
Had such. My mind had been such so fooled
by society. How?
How do you spell How do you spell Ethiopia?
Never mind, I'll just. I'll finagle it.

(01:48:37):
EUT no it whenever you get baptized you just your your mind
just clears up. You know.
And. It's it's cleansed.
You know what I said, though? When I went, I actually went and
I I I actually came back and I said, you know what?

(01:48:59):
I'm an American. I'm, I'm a black from the
Americas. And I recognize that.
And I was like, I got to come home and just teach my I'm not.
I don't. I'm not really meant to be here
either. I felt like I and when I got
there I felt like I was trying to leave something and create
something that I wasn't. Yeah, that's crazy.

(01:49:19):
That sent me back to where I am from, and I'm still in the same
high school right now, teaching and coaching and in the same
neighborhood that I grew up in. Yeah, you look like a basketball
player. Like you look like you can rip
it up in the days. Yeah, I was.

(01:49:39):
I was that and football player too.
And football. Oh, my receiver.
I actually played a little bit of everything.
Running back too. That's why I'm getting surgery
too, you know, this week. But my dad played in NFL.
That that that. Was good for the.
For the Redskins, for the. Where they?

(01:50:03):
Were the Redskins? Yeah, yeah, now.
To the now, to the commanders. Yes, What is?
Well, what's what's your dad's? Name Ted.
Ted Vachter. Yeah, it was old, old school.
He was don't. There's no money involved with
him. Don't worry about that.
Like he had. He had to hustle.
He had to hustle. He had.

(01:50:24):
So this is the thing with him. He had, he played, you know you
lived off your name back then. So they would give you the house
and things like that. That was your credit.
But then you had to try to survive that.
So he would sell suits on the side.
And it was ironic. When I came home from school, I
sold suits out on one of the, like, 8th streets, which is one

(01:50:46):
of the dangerous parts of DC. And my dad would ride by and
he'd be like, get the hell off that street, son, you know, what
the hell are you doing? You know what I mean?
I would be selling linen suits and doing, you know, doing my
thing. And he was sold.
But that was when I was going through that, you know, that
transition. He didn't realize how much I had
to give up just so I could get back to being normal because I

(01:51:08):
wanted to live his dream. You know, I want to be what he
did. And so, and you know, and I know
plenty of people who don't come back from that, they're still
struggling to this day, you know, with, you know, alcohol,
not finishing the degree. I got a master's degree, You
know what I'm saying? You know, that was my goal too,

(01:51:29):
because he had one. So he doesn't, you know, he
doesn't know the impact he's hadon me.
But I had to change so much justto get here.
Is your, Is your pops around now?
Yes, he is. So I'm very blessed.
He's a yeah, he's a, he's a, he's a golf instructor, you
know, like I play golf, you knowwhat I'm saying?

(01:51:52):
Like you know just a lot of things he's taught me man that I
can't I can't replace and and I didn't know.
I I always I honestly growing upI took it for you know I took a
like I took it for granted. They say right because I I
assumed he was supposed to be there and walk me through
everything like everybody. I say yo you need this you need

(01:52:14):
that. But he was walking me but I
didn't He just did. He just wasn't holding my hand.
He allowed me to make my mistakes, you know, he meant he
allowed me to do all those things and and and I appreciate
that. I can appreciate that now
because you know, my other brother hasn't necessarily
recovered so well. But I did and so that was that

(01:52:39):
was your opportunity to, you know, you got to kind of find
yourself and comedy is one of those things I chose because it
was it's become therapy for me. Comedy aloud.
Yeah, comedy. So I I put out five hip hop
albums too. I produced 5 albums and and and
I've been on some people, artists like Raheem Divan.

(01:52:59):
I was on his first album before he before he broke out.
I don't know if you guys know him.
Yeah, yeah, I was on his Urban Avenue 31, which was like before
he became mega *. So I did those and I had to take
them down, actually, because I got a job where I got worried.

(01:53:21):
You know what I'm saying? I got you.
I got you, Jay. I'm not going to run the spot,
but I was a hip hop artist first, so I made beats rhymed,
spent that doing that. A lot of time doing that.
That was part of my. How old are you?
I am somewhere like 40-4, something like that.
So we were actually the same area. 49.

(01:53:46):
Stop lying. Blocking on 50. 50 is good.
It's a good age, I mean. It's a great time.
Yeah, you lived through the seven.
You were a little bit of part ofthe 70s.
You grew up in the 80s. One, 1000%.
That was the New York style thatwas with, you know, scratching

(01:54:08):
was. Oh yeah, I had two turntables, I
wrote. I I carried my records around
forever. Yep, Yep.
I knew friends that were in contests in New York actually
back in the. Days sample beats I like.
I had everything. MPC all that, yeah.
Yeah, they they would go to, youknow, it's like juice.

(01:54:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got the juice now.
No doubt All that. All that with the two turn with
two turntables and a mic. That's old school.
It ain't the news. I wasn't part of the news,
that's for sure. Two turntables and a mic.
That's it. So underground, all that, you
know speaking your speaking yourmind in a productive way.

(01:54:54):
I'm part of that Karas One movement.
You know all that. You know the originals.
I'm not part of the these newer cats, the.
Original I I that was my first love was hit New York East Coast
hip hop yeah back in my. That changed a lot of us.

(01:55:15):
Yeah. And Houston, that Houston came
out with their first RAP or R&B whatever station in 92 and.
I think I was, what, 8th grade? And and then the N.W.A stop and
then Snoop Dogg and yeah. And so I went to, that's what

(01:55:38):
happened. So I went to school out on the
West Coast, right near Sacramento.
And that's when I got, I was listening to like too short Eazy
E all there and just getting that whole West Coast, you know,
And yeah, it was it just, it just, it just ran me for a

(01:55:59):
while. It ran me for a good.
It ran me for a good 10/10/15 years.
I'm sure I still make beats right now.
So, Jamal, you growing up in polashes, I mean, what did you
listen? To I mean, I didn't really grow
up in polashes. I always spent like maybe 3 1/2
years there. Yeah, it was, Yeah, it was.

(01:56:24):
It was roughly 3 1/2 years. But being down in Texas at that
age, I mean, I'm not a country music fan in the slightest.
Never was back in that back then.
So that's for the most part, allyou heard was country music or
we had what was that, 97.9, the box over there?

(01:56:44):
Yeah, so we used to listen to that.
So me coming up, it was like it was, you know, like Coolio's
Gangsters Paradise, you know, was my favorite.
That was probably the song of a decade, in my opinion.
Yeah. That's a.
Movie The movie. By the way, that song is as good

(01:57:05):
as that movie is terrible. I know.
That movie was so trash, but that.
Song was that Song was legendary.
That song was #1 for God knows. I mean, it was almost like me
and my brother would be in the car and we'd be listening to
like the top ten. And it was it.

(01:57:27):
We would not only would we say, oh, Gangster's Paradise, we
would sing the song. We knew it so well.
It's very rare that I would listen to songs on the radio
that many times and know the words of it.
My memory is not even that good,you know?
But yeah, it's, you know, Gangster's Paradise.
But The thing is, I didn't listen to a lot of music on the

(01:57:48):
radio aside from Gangster's Paradise.
But we would go CD shopping, we would get CDs, and then we would
just, you know, put them in our Walkmans or whatever.
I would listen to other people'sCDs, listening to who they were
listening to, and I would kind of like fall in love with, you

(01:58:08):
know, I mean, again, back then it was Doctor Dre, it was Snoop
Dogg. Those guys were big back in my
day, you know? No, I don't think anybody in
Texas that listened to rap musiclisten to anybody on the East
Coast. No, Jay-Z.
There was no Jay-Z, no Naughty By Nature like he said.

(01:58:30):
We did, and I know I did. He's he back when Jay-Z was good
and from one album or two and then you know he was only good
with you know being and a collation with.
It I think one time, I think onetime I heard somebody with a

(01:58:50):
Busta Rhymes CD and I think yeah, so it that Eminem came
out, you know I think my my junior year in high school, so I
mean a lot. Of a lot of music.
Came out, but I find that after I had graduated from high
school. And you.

(01:59:12):
And so you're younger than me. I think so.
I'm class of 99. Oh, you are?
Yeah 'cause Eminem came in on when I was like 19 or 20.
OK, yeah, I was. I was born in 81.
All right, I think you were. Born in You were born in 19,

(01:59:33):
yeah. Yeah, yeah, that age right
there. I don't know.
I kind of feel. But you know what, Like as I'm
looking at you right now, because you're very young, I
feel older than you looking at you.
I feel like, you know, I should be like, well, Jessica, here's
some, you know, brotherly advice.

(01:59:54):
Like, I kind of feel like, well,Jessica, you know, you should
know better than to do that. You know, Like, I don't know,
but. It's.
Yeah, I always. I always, and I mean, and I know
you've made references to me, toyou being older than me, but in
my mind I always feel like, well, I'm older than you.
But. Then again, you know.

(02:00:16):
I feel like you are, you know, mentally than me.
No, I I I kind of feel like, no,not not I far bit from me to
think that any I'm smarter than any woman for that.
Matter. No, no, no, no, no.
Not smarter, just more knowledgeable.
See, I got to. I got to stop you there too.

(02:00:38):
I kind of feel like, no, I don'tthink it's knowledgeable.
It's just I've been through a lot and I've always told myself,
well, never again or in a different situation, just as how
I would you know, do it. I I've made a lot of mistakes in
my life. But you know, your species
mature like lightning speed. I had this argument with my
sister actually, because, you know, I have a niece, my

(02:00:59):
sister's, you know, it's a womanand my sister's pretty
intelligent, you know, she's very, you know, she's not, she's
not an idiot, she's not dumb. And she was always like book
smart. But you know, I'm like, I told
her one day that, you know, she was asking me, she asked me if I
wanted to have kids and what would I want to have first.
And I told her I think I would have AI would want to have a
girl 1st. And I told her if I was to have

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a daughter first because, like having like daughters I guess is
just like having cats. They could take care of
themselves, you know, like. They don't.
They will. Show you how to program your
phone at age 6. Like, you know.
And and my niece, she's very she's very I mean she's
intelligent. She pretends that she's not but

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she's a very smart girl and and and and on top of that though
aside from that like I look at her character, she's very she's
very sweet. She's very loving.
She shares even though like, howmany only child do you know
share. You know what I'm saying?
I'm just like, holy shit, you'resharing.
Where did you learn this from? But like, she'll offer me

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something and I'll just be like,well, thank you.
And I'll say, you know, thank you for sharing That's very nice
of you And and it's nothing to her, you know, like here here's
some chips, you know, Like, I know, I know.
Like I know. Single children that are just
like you have to, they're. They don't even think about.
You. But I digress.
I told her that, you know, I'd like to have a daughter because

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I feel like having a daughter would be girls are
self-sufficient and she's like no that's not true.
Like you'll be surprised how many times I have to do this
with and my niece is 8 years old.
It's like I don't expect her to build a rocket ship at age 10.
I just want her to know that shecan build 1 if she wanted to at

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age 10. But no, it's.
You will find out some things what we go through as a kid to,
you know, adulthood. I I can imagine.
I I can imagine just. No, you will imagine.
You will be. You will imagine because you'll
see your knees grow. So Jamal, I gotta take it, but
I'm sorry. I was having some technical

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difficulty. I was like, where you?
Listening to Where you From? No, I heard, I heard.
No, I just. I was having some difficulty
either so where where. So you're originally from
something with AP? No, I was born in Trinidad,
Trinidad in the West Indies likeyou know, I'm, I'm Caribbean,

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you could say that. Yes, actually, yes, I am for
sure. You know from Trinidad to New
York, just like how all the Caribbeans do it.
You know, you got to go see New York and then 30 years you got
to go down South like in Atlantaor Jacksonville to a lower
extent or Miami that's like the Caribbean.

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It's almost like 1/2 circle. You know I I did spend a lot of
time in Texas. I used to live in six different
cities in Texas. But I like that.
So that's where you get the ideathough, I think.
Does that help you with the idea?
Like, look, I'm moving. I'm not going to just sit in one
spot, I'm going to. Well, actually my mom did a lot

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of moving and I had no choice but to follow her because she's
the one who knew how to count money and buy food.
So I had to follow her. But as an adult, you know, I
when I graduated from Palacios, I was given an opportunity to go
back to New York. And then I I stayed there for a
little while. Then I moved down to Miami.

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And after that I moved back up to New York, NY, to Seattle,
spent eight years there, and then came back to New York.
But I've been. I've lived all over this
country. I mean from Portland, ME to, I
mean I've lived all the only place, that only place that I
could probably say that I've never been to, that I would like

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to visit one day is like the Southwest, like New Mexico,
Arizona. I would like to visit like
around that area. I've never been there before and
you know. These are things.
That I I plan on, you know, withcomedy.
Because I want to perform. In every state there's a lot of
places that I would like to perform and and do that and but

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yeah I'm I'm I'm kind of I guessyou could call me a mutt because
I feel like I have I could go toany city and just blend in.
I could go to Austin TX and blend in.
I could go to any city in Texas and blend in or I could you know
go to places like you know you know like Philly, Boston, NY of

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course and just and just fit in.So I always, I'm, I'm one of
those guys. I like to travel and learn other
people culture, whether it's like regional culture or
whatever, and just kind of understand it, blend in or you
know, make the decision if I would ever want to visit there
or not. But yeah, no, that's again,

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that's the joy of travel. That's the joy of being a comic.
It's just the traveling. It's fun sometimes.
No, but. That.
Yeah, that's that back. That's the same background I
have. Like I've been to every place in
the United States. You know, I've traveled all
throughout the Caribbean, You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, like I said, I already told you, I've been to

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Ethiopia. Those are, I think we have those
similar things, man, that really, you know, line up, you
know, I find that really interesting as you speak.
You know, I can see those thingsin me as well, so.
Yeah, I mean, I've been doing this for 12 years and I keep
asking myself, what could I do what?

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What do I need to do though, climb that ladder?
Raise the bar. Yeah.
And I think this year I'm going to, I'm going to raise it a tad.
I'm going to, I'm going to raiseit a little bit.
You know, I just got to, I just got to, you know, just keep

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evolving. I got to keep evolving, keep.
Bragging brother. Yeah, like, I don't want to be.
Trying to follow on your footsteps right behind.
Keep bragging I. I I want to be.
I think my goal is to be as a comic is whenever people talk
about comedy, I just want to be mentioned like the top.
I mean, I know the long shot. I just want to be mentioned in
the conversation. You'll you'll definitely will

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the universal always. Guides you so.
That's right. I believe that too.
That's dope, man. I appreciate that From you, man.
Like, honestly, that's that. Like, I love the.
From what I say, that's the mostbeautiful thing about you.
Is that you're not letting this thing dictate you.
You're dictating that, this movement on your, you know, and

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you're taking people with you, so that, like, that's something.
That's something. That you talk about universal,
you talk about those things of like that, like people just
ain't doing that, man. I mean, Katt Williams said
something when I was listening today.
And it was just he was like, like, I book.

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I try to book everybody that I think is funny.
You know what I'm saying? You Lauren, was it Waller Smith
who was on the show that we did in in Hampton.
Like she was very funny and I'm and I'm glad she came down.
I like to When I travel, I like to book different types of of of
comedians. You know, I want a white comic.

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I want a black comic. I want a black girl.
I want a white girl. I I try to mix it in.
And what he was saying was he he's like I booked people that I
think are funnier than me. I know for sure I've booked
people funnier than me. I have no problem with that.
Anything that makes the show great, you know, and and but
also what I want to be, what I want is I want to be on good

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shows. That Norfolk or the Hampton show
that we did was incredible. Everybody played their position.
Everybody did well. You actually hosted last minute.
Usually comics fuck up when whenthey when.
Oh man, I got a host. They, they, they they can't
process it in their head becausethey're like, I got to be here
the whole time. He had to pinch.

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It for me while I work the door and then put myself on another
part of the lineup. So and and it was great.
It it worked out. So it's just like you know, yes,
whenever I'm traveling somewhereI I am like hey send me your
clip and your clip. To be honest with you Aaron, I
was the 4th clip that I saw thatwas actually professional.

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I was getting, I wasn't getting good quality videos and some of
the angles were just like, I'm like, OK, I'm not going to sit
through 8 minutes of me watchingyour back do comedy.
I just can't. So this is, you know, and this
is something that even Jonathan was talking about because he
produces as well. But you know when you when you
have to book a room outside of your state, outside of your

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comfort zone and and try to put comics around it and get.
I mean it's it's a lot. You know it it it it's it's
stressful because you got to hope that you know everyone's on
board and and and this. But when it's all played out,
when it's all, when I see my my dream, my focus, my goal,

(02:10:35):
everything that I put into it, when I see it flourish and you
know it, it's almost like, OK, this is one of these, you know,
this is another thing that I could put in my my comedy.
Arsenal. Like nothing when just go when
you do your yoga, like you you have an audience right.

(02:10:57):
You you actually do have an audience because you have people
that you trained that you know you're on the the mat or
whatever and you're. I mean, it's kind of like that.
Do you know, like what you're going to do, what kind of
positions you're going to do or do you look at the audience and
you're like, there's a lot of geriatrics in here.
I can't overextend them. Like what?
What do you do? Well, I used to be one of those

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people that would have a mindsetof be like, OK, today's going to
be a power strengthening, tough yoga class.
And then I go into class and I feel people's energy if it
sounds weird and see who is new or who are more regulars.
And yeah, I I tried to do it my way, but then when I would get

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to class, it would just turn. So I I just went with the
audience and that just yeah. It's funny because when I was in
yoga class, right, I had this hip injury and automatically the
yoga instructor came up to me and they were like, I can tell
your right side and. You like your left side like you

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read me off the top. Yeah, you change my.
Position. Make it easier.
Like, do it. Do it.
This way you'll be more effective.
Like don't hurt yourself and that's what you're talking
about. You can't injure yourself in
those yoga classes. Yeah, I tell people ahead of
time like this will injure you. If you've never done this pose
before like you are have haven't, then you know ease your

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way into it by doing it this way.
So I already explained, you knoweach pose and I always explain
what the benefit is for that pose and not just sit there and
just do a pose. There's no, there's none.
Yeah, you need like some like comedy, like picture behind you
like, you know, just with the yoga, you know what I mean?

(02:12:47):
You got, you know, you need somekind of, like staple, you know,
just OK my. Fault I need a background.
That's another just. All right, sorry.
My jokes are really not that funny, but.
Well, I mean, I there's no stagehere.

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I know, I know. I'm just joking.
It was just, I was just joking, OK?
But like I said, man, I appreciate you guys, man.
You know, I appreciate you bringing me on everything, man.
I was like, I got to stick it out with my boy.
What what you should do? Please plug your stuff, please.

(02:13:29):
Oh like I said just because I'm going through the census we're
we do you know I'll do a open mic every Thursday here in
Silver Spring. It's going to probably move to
DCI want to keep you posted on that my my Instagram is AVAC

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moment and then my Facebook is Air laugh out loud comedy.
I just was up for newcomer of the year.
I just performed the Magoobi's one of the biggest second
biggest club on the East Coast. What else?
I do have a couple shows coming up but I I they're not really

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defined yet because I like I said I'm I got to go through a
little process real quick with the surgery.
So I've kind of put some things on hold, but just come to my
Facebook page or my Instagram and that will take you where you
need to be. So I do got some good things
coming up for 2024. I'm very excited and I'm going
to Charleston with my man Jamal Harrington, hopefully.

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Yeah, we're. Doing We're in West Virginia.
Yeah. Yeah.
So we do have that going on too.So yes, I will be there in West
Virginia. I still got to make that flyer,
but yeah, once I get my lazy assfrom being jet lagged, I'm going
to get on that sometime this week.
Our lovely Jessica Vargas. Where can we find you doing yoga

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or helping people get their minds right?
Well, I can do do normally do a zoom class for a set of people,
so. So let me ask you this.
Now do you erase all of your zoom videos or is there a way

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that some? I haven't recorded 1 yet.
I don't want to embarrass people, but I do want to record.
Actually I was going to ask for permission just so I want to get
a a different angle since I moved and I have another set
camera where it moves with you and yeah, and articulate this

(02:15:46):
time instead of, you know, just doing my own thing with Last MO
music on. So yeah, I I like music.
So music and and yoga flew with.Me.
That I made my own mixes, you know, So actually I had a DJ who

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was depressed at the time. He made mixes of electronic and
no words and he got a girlfriend.
Then he was not depressed anymore and his music sucked.
I was like, dude, seriously, youneed to go back to being
depressed. I find it.

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I find it. And you know what?
Most of the jokes that I write, it's while I'm like upset or
depressed or mad. And I hate that.
I do that. I hate that.
I'm just like, why can't I writea joke while I'm happy?
Because comedy comes from a darkplace in my heart and soul.

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And I'm like, oh, here's and and, but then when I write the
joke, after being angry after wanting to scorch the planet,
it's like, oh, here's this, you know, gem that I came up with
while I was angry. And then I'm like, I'm happy
again. But sometimes I'm just like,
man, I miss that misery. Yeah.

(02:17:14):
I get you. I get you.
I get you. I've been there now.
I could use a toxic relationshipright now just to like, write
out like 20 minutes of new material.
There's so many apps that. Are out there that you could
possibly? Like, I am just one bad decision
away on like a dating app for just like someone just being

(02:17:37):
like, you should quit comedy andI'm like, well, comedy was here
before you and it's going to be here.
After you Hilarious. And I just wrote a new hour of
new material because of you. And that's specifically them.
Just like I could just write when I'm angry, but you know,
everything is looking up for me.It's kind of hard for me to to

(02:17:58):
kind of right now because I'm. Happy.
I'm happy. You guys can hear me right?
Yes, we can. As a matter of fact, yes we can.
But this has been our broadcast time.
I would like to thank the very funny Jeremy Arroyo that was

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here, the Puerto Rican Jeremy Arroyo, Aaron Vector, my new
brother, my new half brother. Thank.
You and of course Tesco. It's always great to have you on
and for you to talk about. I like the way you talk about
yoga because every time you do, I feel this close of just

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joining a yoga cult. I mean, you're not cult.
It's it's a cult. Yeah, a yoga class.
And get get my back straightenedout because I can only smoke so
much. I think yoga and weed.
Oh God. Yeah, definitely that.
But you got an accident, so you need to line yourself up.

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Yeah, I I I do. I'm actually another thing that
I've just did was I've rejoined my gym.
So that's right. I'm going to.
That's right, ladies. I'm going to be a beefcake.
And and and honestly just provides the just a nice balance
right in the recipe to to keep it.

(02:19:27):
All to keep a It's a recipe for life.
Yes, right. That's right, The guns are out.
Snakes sneaks out. And so and I have a 12 year old
girl's arm gun. Down gun.
Down this is a 12 year old girl.Like, I'm surprised my niece can

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climb this, but yeah. You said you went, you started
going to a gym, so. Well I didn't start yet.
I just paid like my my account balance and then because because
after like 3 months like they cut you off.
And then you got, so I paid it off and then I'm just like, OK,
I'm going to go jogging and I'm going to lift some weights 6

(02:20:13):
months from now. I mean, I don't know how much,
you know, I could show myself, but I'm going to be buffing
stuff. So but yes, with all with that
being said ladies and gentlemen,like I said, oh, as Marianne
always say, make good choices. Unfortunately, she wasn't here
to to correct me if I was right on that.
But I know I am Marianne also she, she just, she had a cancer

(02:20:40):
and she just went and got a procedure done and I saw a
Facebook photo after it. So she's fine.
She's well, she was going to popin, but I think she's probably
tired from it. So we'll see her next week and
she's she's she's she's swell. And also I I I don't know why

(02:21:02):
I'm saying this now but we got anew member of our podcast.
He's our new Co host. Unfortunately he couldn't make
it because you know some of us have a dating life.
So you know we're going to let that slide and but he's a good
guy the good old Jonathan Zeigel.
So we're going to officially make his announcement on the

(02:21:22):
show tomorrow. Well, our next recording, but
unless he's not dating. Because you.
Know. Hey Jamal, I'm telling you, you
got to make Jess a part of this because she does these little,
she makes these little like makes these little sounds and
just go perfectly with everything.
What's the nose? She knows she has a home here.

(02:21:45):
This is This isn't her first rodeo.
It's like a staple. It's like a staple.
Like it's hilarious. But I will say this, this is the
first time. I mean, if we had everybody, we
would have probably had seven people.
This is the first time I've actually had more than four
people. And I'm the and I'm, I don't
want to say I'm by myself, but you know, kind of when Marianne

(02:22:06):
told me that she wasn't able to make it, I'm like, OK, that's OK
We have like three other people on the show outside of me that
will probably, you know, hold the Fort.
And so far you guys did really good.
I mean I'm looking at you know the list yoga calling Jack
Nicholson and you know and I gotand I got you guys on the show.

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So we'll, you know, we'll definitely hit you guys up
whenever we need you again. And my usual ending I'm usually
witty when it comes to this. Oh, I.
Already know it? I I was going to say something.
Well, if you if you think that this if you're kosher with this

(02:22:52):
Epstein list then yeah it's it'sit's just remember it's not
about you. And.
OK.