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Episode Transcript

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All right, ladies and gentlemen,hello.
Welcome to another episode of It's Not About You starring
Marianne Riley hailing from Sumner, WA, and myself, Mr.
Jamal Harrington hailing from the great city of Brooklyn, NY.
Guys, this is you know what's funny?

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This is our 8th episode. I kind of felt like we've been
here longer since the rebrandingand all that.
This is actually, this is actually episode eight.
Wow. And and of course we've done way
more episodes than this, but we're talking about since the
rebranding, we're on 8 episodes and what don't we have a lot, We

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have a lot to talk about it. But Marianne, how are you?
I'm actually doing. I'm doing OK.
I mean, honestly, no, honestly, no.
I'm, I'm and all for all intentsand purposes you would think I
was doing fantastic. I'm bummed out and I think that
that's kind of normal, that seasonal thing.

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We're getting close to Christmas.
And when you start getting older, I mean you start thinking
about Christmas is a holiday where you think about how things
used to be, where you used to have all that family, the big
family that you would go get together with and have.
You know, it's just a great big party.

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And then now it's like you look back at all the people that
you've lost. You know, I saw a memory on
Facebook today and it actually that I I had on Facebook that
reminded me of you because thirteen years ago today, Boo
Boo Bear died. Wow.

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Was it 13? Wow.
Has it been that long? Yeah, it was.
Is it 13? No, 1111, sorry, it was on the
13th, but it was 11 years ago. OK.
I mean, still that. Wow.
OK. And so one neighbor made me

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think, wow, we've known each other that long.
Yeah, hell, longer than that, probably.
Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely.
And then I was trying to see if we have, I have a spot in here
and go back to my memories. I'm trying to find it because
yeah, I mean and that's one of those things that, let's see how

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do I find those things nowadays?Gosh, I remember.
I remember finding him too. Oh my God.
And it was just like breaking the news to you was so fucking
hard. I was like, because I remember
like, I I and I was like, he's not breathing, not moving.
And I was like, it was like, OK,A, there's that B, how fucked up

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would it have been if I, and I'mnot trying to make a joke out of
it because I know that I know hemeant a lot to you because he
got you through a lot of stuff. I remember you telling me all
the stuff that he had got you through the debts that you have
went through, that your dog had kind of helped you through.
And that's and that's what dogs do you know Dogs are a great

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companion and and and and the one thing that I that I living
with dogs when I was living in Seattle I could say this much.
I mean say what you will about your pet.
Whatever. There's been many days where I
will come home and as soon as I saw that dog whatever happened

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at work whatever happened how how bad my day was you forgot
about it instantaneously. And I would take I would put on
the the put put the leash on andwe go out for a walk and and and
that was the one of the biggest stress relievers so and and and

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so I get where whenever when youtold me like you know hey you
know I believe you said when your mom died your dog got you
through the hard you know the hardships of that.
Planning the funeral. And I was just read the memory
and I can't. It was 11 years ago today, And

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so the year before that, my uncle had passed away.
And so my mom, we took him with us to the Funeral Home to plan
my uncle's funeral. And she almost rubbed him bald
because she was like, petting him so hard or just like petting
him like, you know, And then when when she died the next

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year, I almost rubbed him bald, planning her funeral, you know,
And it was just, you know, it's weird, I think, back on it
because one of the timing of theyear is so horrible to lose
something, a beloved friend, family member or, you know, or,
you know, even our furry children.

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And it's also one of those things that I realized when I'm
sitting here thinking that I'm like, that's the last pet that
I've ever had. I haven't had a pets a pet
since. Yeah.
And I I never thought I would besomebody who wouldn't have pets
because I was always. I mean, I grew up around

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animals. I've always had animals.
So to not have a pet is so weirdthat it's been that long.
I I don't think that I I realized that I would be pet
free for all these years. It's just weird.
But yeah, And so I mean, but it I thought and thought about it,

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I was like, my gosh, like we've known each other since like
2010. Sounds Yeah, that sounds about
right, actually. That was actually the year I
moved to Seattle. Was was that was around that
time? Yeah.
And and I remember, yeah, it was2010 when around when I moved

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there, I started comedy in 2011.So, you know, it's and of course
it's like, you know, you're breaking in a new industry in a
new city and you don't. I mean, and The thing is, I
didn't know the rules. I learned the rules as I went

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along with, you know, going along.
And luckily for me, I was able to, you know, have people
actually take me under their wing, show me some things, show
me some places to go. So, you know, it was funny.
Somebody was asking me the otherday.
There was just like, what's it like being a comedian?

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And even today I was talking to Jonathan Zeigl Zegel.
Sorry, I always pronounced his name wrong.
But you know, we were talking today and we were just talking
about like, like the cool thing that I also enjoy about being a
comic. Aside from the stage stuff and
the fame that we get and the love from the fans that we get,

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it's actually having real conversations with comedians.
Oh yeah. That's I after work.
Today I had spoke with my and Jonathan is one of literally one
of the like, he's a pro. He's very, very pro ish, very
humbled, very funny. And you know, we do a lot of

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road work together. Like you're going to meet him in
a couple of weeks. Fantastic guy actually, because
he's telling me that he's actually going to be going to
Portland, he's going to be flying out to the West Coast
early. So he's like, I want to hang out
in Portland. So I'm like, well, I'm like,
hey, I know some people in Portland that if you're trying

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to get on some shows, this guy, this guy, this guy and whatnot,
and he's going to take the bus from Portland up to Tacoma and
I'm going to go meet him at the,I'm assuming, I don't think I've
ever seen a Greyhound bus station in Tacoma.
Oh yeah. I know where it is.
OK, there's one there. OK.
So I told him, you know, I wouldpick him up.
So that was what he was going todo.
He was going to try, like to kind of get the whole Pacific

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Northwest field to it. But so today we were talking and
then we were drifting off and just having a conversation about
like, what we expect of ourselves and how much fun we
had doing shows together. And he was telling me his
favorite shows that he did whilewe were on the road together.
And it and it was just like, I mean these were like you know I

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can't have this conversation with a regular person, regular
person with like someone who's not a comedian, you know.
And it felt really good to have this conversation because I'm
like you know what not only is he in my eyes a brother in what
we do or a Co worker he gets thebusiness.
You know and and you know we talked about the mobile show

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that we did. We talked about the Hampton show
that we did. We've all, we're talking about
more shows that we're going to do.
And it's just the fact that I I told him, I'm like, you know,
it's very rare that when I mean there's some people even in
Seattle that I can travel with and be like, oh, we're good.

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You know, I've traveled with Justin so many times.
It's almost like it's not like we have to relearn each other's
routine, you know? It's not like I there's no
awkwardness when you know me andJustin or even when me and
Tyrone are going to, you know, this weekend.

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I like hanging out with comics where it's like I don't have to
learn your your, you know, I could say, hey, Justin, want to
go out for a drink? Most likely he's going to say
sure, why not? You know what I'm saying?
Or yeah, where do you want to go?
I kind of get him, you know whatI'm saying?
I get he. And he's a great travel.
He's a great travel buddy, you know, great travel.
And there's a lot of people in Seattle that are great.

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Derek Sheen, great travel buddy.You know what I'm saying?
I at first I was nervous when wedid a show in Austin and I was
very nervous because I'm like, Imean, we, I've seen Derek Sheen
in the scene, but it's like whenyou see people at comedy clubs
and open mics, it's like, yeah, you know, but then it's like,
OK, we're about to, you know, not not to say that we've shared

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a hotel room together, but it's like, dude, we're about to stay,
you know, we're about to. You and I are about to have
separate hotel rooms. What's your vibe like?
What's my vibe like? And The thing is, like, when we
go out, I like to make sure thatthe comics that I'm with, hey,
are you OK? Are you safe?
Are you good? OK, good.
Let's go grab lunch. Let's go do whatever we want.

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And even Jonathan was like, hey,while we're in Seattle, like,
what are we going to do? I'm like, bro, you're a guest.
We we could do an open mic. Thursday night, you're going to
meet Marianne and her husband. And you know what?
They're going to? They're an extension of my
family. Just like how you're an
extension of my family. So it's almost like you're going
to meet a distant relative that you've never met before.

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You know what I'm saying? And he's and he was like, oh,
that's great. He's really looking forward to
meeting you, really looking forward to meeting Romeo.
And I'm just like, yeah, just, you know, and and The thing is,
like I said, I would never bringsomebody who was even
questionable to the house. I'd be like, hey, look, I'll put
you in a hole. You can go to a hotel, you know

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what I'm saying? But at the same time, I got to
also keep in mind and again, like, you know, great travel
buddy, great guy, very respectable.
And again, he's. All about you say great travel,
buddy. You've mentioned that a couple
of times. What makes somebody a a good
travel companion? Like if you're not sure in the
same hotel room with them for people.

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I mean, if they don't travel with strangers.
So when we went to to Norfolk, VA, like me, him, Alex Elkin,
who was the headliner that night.
So I got this big room where I was like, oh, like, it was a big
enough room where Jonathan had his own part of the hotel room

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where you can even shut the doorand he has his own privacy, you
know what I'm saying? So we're like, OK, there's that.
But what makes a great travel buddy is somebody who me
personally, take the talent away.
I'm not worried about the talentwhen I'm traveling with you.
I'm my concern is, how are you with the, like after the show?

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How are you with the fans? We stayed at this venue till
3:00 in the morning drinking bourbon because everybody else
that was there stayed, wanted togive us, you know, was giving us
bourbon. And and Jonathan was very
sociable, you know, he was very and and as a matter of fact,
today he was telling me he was like, did you know that I'm

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still like, I chat with one of the guys from the Norfolk show,
not, not not the comedian, but the fans.
He was like, yeah, I was like wewould send each other like
crazy, like, you know, like Instagram photos of ourselves,
like making funny faces or whatever.
But he says he still talks with them.
And I'm like, oh, that's actually not bad.

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I was like, because you want to make a connection with the fans
one way or another. And he did.
He made a real connection with one where he was like, he kept
referring to the audience as kids.
He was like, man, it was great hanging out with those kids
because like every time I turnedaround, somebody was handing me
a shot of something while I'm signing T-shirts, you know, And

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So what makes a great travel buddy?
It's it's just like #1, I think it's important that you have to
gel, you know, I'm not saying you have to have the same
interests because I know that meand Derek Sheen and I use Derek
as an example because I know we're totally different people,
very different people. But at the same time, as a

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producer, I could. I'm not one of those guys that's
like, I don't want to do this because you know, if Derek Sheen
was like, hey, I want to go to aBBQ pit joint, like, what do you
what do you say to that? And I'm like, yes, because I
want the people that I'm traveling with.
I'm very easy going. So I want the people that I'm

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traveling with to to have fun when we're in insert city, you
know, I don't want to be like, hey, you have to be in your
hotel room at this time. You have a show tomorrow.
You're on my. I am not even.
I'm not even militant like that.You know what I'm saying?
Because, again, I want people tofeel comfortable when they're
around me. I want people to feel
comfortable when they're around my friends, my fans.

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So guys like Justin, when I bring him to Texas, you know,
yes, Justin, who breaks a lot ofballs, but you know, it's all in
good fun, you know what I'm saying?
Derek Sheen, I remember when we did the show in Austin and we
stayed at Yola Lou's house. When we did the show, she was
actually on the show also. You know, everybody just got a

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lot. It was great.
That was great because we all know each other.
We all get along. And it wasn't a question of just
like who do we think we are? No, we're all, we all have a
plan. We all are trying to do the
same. We're all trying to make the
show great, right? And then whatever happens

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afterwards, you know, I've never, I have.
I don't think I've ever done a show where I'll call it a road
gig where I was like, wow, I could never bring you on the
road again. Not one single person from
Kermit Appeal to Adam Pozzi. Every everybody has always been

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respectable. So at the same time, you don't
want to bring somebody who is not humble, who's full of
himself, who feels like they're entitled.
None of these guys that I've mentioned has ever, has ever
exhibited that. Even when I do shows at the
Renton Civic Theatre, there havebeen sometimes where I'll get

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like the look like this guy. I wouldn't be offended if you
never brought him back, you knowwhat I'm saying?
So it's just like, and when, when, when venue managers say
that, I feel like I have to listen because it's like, wow,
if they didn't. And mind you, they're very easy
going and they're, you know, very fun and and it takes a lot

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for them to to tell me, wow, that, OK, yeah, that guy should
never come back again. Again, I would never tell you
how to book your shows, but. Right.
And I've heard. About a couple of people.
Yeah, I I've actually had that from a Yeah, from actually,
yeah, I I have a list. Believe it or not it's a very

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short list but I've I've had some some you know Bill who's a
very again it takes it doesn't it takes a lot to pull Bill's
strings. You know what I'm saying Because
again he's an easy going guy andhe also breaks balls too But if
you're being if you're not beinga professional and he notices

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that it's like hey and again it's mind you I have to respect
that it's not my place it's not my house.
So if you're telling me, hey, I don't want to see this guy
unless he's buying a ticket to aplay, then OK, I'll put him on
that list. Because I also have to respect
the venue that I'm doing a show at, you know, Right.

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Oh, absolutely, Absolutely. Yeah.
So. It's I mean that's your gig for
a long the long haul. You have to look at, you know,
making sure that you're you're maintaining those relationships
with the it's like you're, you know, that symbiotic
relationship. You can't fuck that up for
somebody's ego that you've booked one time and maybe they

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you know. And I think that that's
something that younger comics orinexperienced comics don't think
about, is that if you make the venue look bad or you make the
producer look bad, you will not get booked again.
You won't. I don't care how good you are.
I do not care how funny you are if you make the producer look
bad and you make the venue look bad.

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If you insult the venue, you insult the producer, you're not
getting booked. Again, not for.
That and it's funny because it reminds me of a story.
I kind of hate telling this story, but I'm going to tell the
story as like a like a tell. I I had booked the show in
Charlotte, NC a little a little a town about I would say maybe

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25 minutes north of it's called it, it it gosh, it'll come to
me, but it's a little small townnorth of Charlotte.
Very, very beautiful venue. I love the venue and I booked a
comic to the to headline it. When my best friends from high
school drove from Raleigh, NC toto the venue, very long drop.

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I think it was like over 2 hours, but nonetheless.
Did you know? Did you know the comic that you
booked? Had you seen them?
I've. Worked with him a handful of
times and I thought in my you know, we've hung out and whatnot
and I knew he had a problem, butI never let it bother me.
But nonetheless, we. As in substance.

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A drinking problem? Yeah.
Find out that. So I am again me being the I'm
not only am IA producer but I'm kind of like the mother.
Well the father Rooster. I want to make sure everybody
knows where to be at what time to be there and know their know
their place and their position. So yeah, So what I did, so to

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the comics that I booked that were from New York, one of my
guest spotters made a mistake inhis flight and wasn't able to
make it, which was fine. He's kind of young.
He's never really been on the road.
So I gave him grace. I gave him a ton of grace.
But when I got to my hotel, which I booked, I booked 3

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rooms, even for the even for theguest spotter, a good friend of
mine. Well, actually one of my best
friends along with Jonathan, we're doing a lot of shows
together and whatnot. He, he called me up very
frustrated. Very mad.
Hey, look, I fucked up on the booking on my flight.
I'm. I'm not going to make it.
I'm like, OK, don't worry about it.

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When I land. And my buddy picked me up from
the hotel to have lunch while I'm trying to call the headliner
to see if he made it. OK, I got no answer.
I spent our entire lunch slash dinner trying to call this
comedian. And my buddy was like, that's
kind of strange that you're trying to call a comedian and

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they won't pick up. Like, you know, you would think
that as a producer, if I call you up, chances are I'm probably
going to put you on the show or check up on you.
One of the two things, you know,So we spent maybe six hours
trying to get in contact with this comedian because I know
that based on what he told me, he had already landed and he

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should have been at the hotel. The room that I had booked, I
was supposed to feature. So basically do like 20 minutes
and it looked like he wasn't going to show up.
I started adding comedians that showed up to the show that had
sent me their video. That didn't make the cut, but

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they came through anyway. You know, they're like, hey, I
know I didn't make the cut. Is it cool if I come through?
Yeah, sure. I started putting comedians up
and then when I went on and did my 20 minutes, I had to do more
that I wasn't prepared for. I was not happy with my set.

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I was very, very because in my mind, I'm thinking, oh, what if
he waltzed in during my set? I could just put him up.
But and and I, and I always wantto give the comedian the benefit
of the doubt. He never showed up.
I did 50 minutes when I should have gotten off 20 minutes

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before because I was exhausted. I've never been so exhausted
featuring Slash doing the headlining set.
So I was super exhausted to be honest with you.
The other comics did fine. They were fantastic, I did not
think and I could. I could easily admit this.
I was kind of embarrassed. I was embarrassed that my buddy,

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who this was his first time seeing me, heck, his parents
have seen me perform before. I thought it was a lackluster
and he deserved better, especially from me.
He enjoyed the show, had a greattime, but he would.
He also at the end of the show felt my frustration.
He was like, you're pissed at your guy, aren't you?

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And I'm like, I'm glad you of all people understood that my
set was bad. I I I was not happy with my set.
Once I saw that, I went over 20 minutes and I knew that I had to
keep going just to fill in the time.
Like I said, I started adding comics.
Anybody that had a pulse that had held a microphone before

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their asses were getting on the stage.
You know, so just out of curiosity, what happened to the
comic that I mean, he used the ticket, right?
So here's the thing. Never contacted me to let me
know that he never had any intentions of making the show.
A week and a half later, he sentme a Facebook message that only

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said hey and I never responded to it.
Wow. I I never responded to it
because, number one, I deserve better than a fucking hey.
Yep. I'm not going to.
I am not going to be. I not only did I not.

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Ask you got a $3 hooker. You are not a fucking you know a
booty call that they send a message of Midnight's aid WYD.
Hey, not even, mind you, not even an explanation on what
happened. Nor did I ask, because I didn't.
I didn't give a fuck. I was like, dude, the damage is
already done now. Wow.

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You. I mean, the money lost, Yeah.
And the thing and the well, actually I surprisingly I made
out like a bandit that in that show because I didn't have to
pay him but also with one one ofthe younger comics that couldn't
make the show he actually compensated me for the hotel
room that he that I booked for him that he wasn't able to stay

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in my a young comic to have the wherewithal to do that but the
headliner could not not even a not even a hey, I apologize this
is what happened. I I ghosted him.
And now, now here's the thing. When you book a comic, how often
do you call reach out to them before the show to make sure

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that they're still? 02 days before the day of I
always say if there's anything, any changes or any concerns you
may have, you have my number. Fucking call me.
Do you use like a booking agreement with them?
In this case, no, because I didn't.

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Because I've worked with him a handful of times and he seems
rather legit. Again, I've I've worked with a
lot of Seattle comics that I have brought out to like the
South and I I never. Comic.
I'm sorry, no, he was a York comic.
No, no, he was a New York. He was a comic who lives in New
York. Now, again, with that being

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said, I've never had an issue with a Seattle comic being like,
oh, I can't, you know, no, it's like I am there.
Just give me the the, just give me the hotel name and address.
I'm there. I've never had this issue.
And mind you, I've booked a lot of comics out of New York, I

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mean out of Seattle to come to Texas, to come to other places.
And again, I have a relationshipwith you guys.
I never think that. I mean, again, barring something
traumatic or a tragedy. But in this case, it wasn't that
he never, even from what I understood, never even booked
his flight. So, and this is a comic that I

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respected, a comic who was very talented and me and some other
comics even from the Pacific Northwest that live here know
who he is. And they're like, oh, you did
trust me. He did you a favor.
And he's burning bridges all over the place.
Burning bridges all over the place.
So I don't, I don't any comic who brings his name up to me

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like, oh, I know what comic you could book.
And they say his name. I'm like, oh, that guy is dead
to me. November 5th.
Ask him about November 5th, 2023.
Ask him about that day. Yeah, he's dead to me.
So I don't. And again, as talented he is.
Oh yeah, it's that recent. So, you know, and and and The

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funny thing is Jonathan knows. So sometimes Jonathan will be
like, well, what about him? And I'm like, Jonathan, you know
how I feel about this. Don't, don't ever bring his.
He's dead to me. Don't ever bring his name up
again. Ever, ever.
Like, imagine. Here's the thing.
Imagine Ralph Porter but being Aand him being a douche bag.

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That's kind of what it's like. That sucks.
He's he's that good of a comedian where I have to turn my
back on you. And I never like doing that to a
comedian. I never.
But if you're going to be unprofessional and you're not
going to communicate because communication is, it's the it's

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a big thing you got to communicate.
If you're not even willing to dothat, I do nothing for.
You is everything. I mean, you like I saw one time
That said, if you're not sick about talking about it, you're
not talking about it enough. And in some cases that's
absolutely true. You should absolutely have that

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communication. If you're booking for a show,
you know, it's usually the otherway around where the Booker will
cancel the show and not tell you.
And that's why they always say, hey, call the venue the day
before, make sure that it's still going on.

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You don't even necessarily call the book or you call the venue
to make sure, hey, have they putup posters?
Have they promoted it? Have they, Are they ready for
this show? Are you guys, you know, are you
guys, have you gotten excitementabout this?
Have you gotten positive feedback?
And if you're getting crickets, yeah, you might want to rethink
about that show. But.

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Here's the thing, though, We hadticket sales.
There was a lot of people in that audience, a lot of couples.
And it was like, bro, you know, and and mind you, actually out
of the people that were there, there was six people that were
from New York that just wanted to see comics from New York
perform, you know, And it was just like, wow.

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And you got me, you know I was like you got me times 2 1/2 but
now it's like you know and and these are the things that I
think about because it's like again, mind you it wasn't like
he called me and told me what happened.
It wasn't like he had an he. I mean would I even care if he
had explained himself? I don't know I I I probably

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would be less dreadful about it.But it's like dude you basically
no called. No, showed me on the show that
the headline and I said that personally.
Oh yeah, he straight up goes to you and that's what's BS.
Like, not even that. One of my friends showed me

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something that he posted on Facebook.
And I was like, I went, I typed in his name and I was like, oh,
he deleted me. Cool.
I'm like, my, I'm like, all right, that's cool.
That's the right move to make when you do something
unprofessional and you block theperson that you did it to, Yeah,

(31:47):
no, that that that shows that shows maturity and humility, so.
Shows you know you fucked up. And and and and this person does
Bringer shows and I produce realfucking shows.
So at the end of the day, who has it bad?
You know, I would never do a bringer show.

(32:09):
I would never have a comic have to pay to do my show.
No, just you know, all I ask is that you promote it and have fun
while you're here. I don't.
Aside from that, yeah, it's likebro, This is why you're not
where you're at. Because unprofessionalism and I
take that shit to heart again, being a stand up comic, it's

(32:32):
it's not just. I mean if you're young and dumb,
I get it. You'll get a pass for the most
part. But you're a fucking adult.
You got you got to treat this like you would treat any other
job because you're getting paid.You can't.
If you're a headliner, you know that shit.
You know what's up. Yeah, you can't know.

(32:52):
Could you imagine if you just nocalled no showed at A at a job.
Yeah. Like, hey, I we don't mind that
you didn't come into work yesterday, but it would be nice
if you would have told us that morning that you were unable to
come to work. So at least we know what's up
with you. You can't just should you
imagine just not showing up to work for like a couple of days.

(33:16):
It's like, no, that that number one that shows.
I could never do that with my current job.
I could never not tell my boss or send an e-mail to a handful
of people like, hey, I'm not coming in and then you guys act
accordingly. But if I don't show up to work,

(33:36):
not only is it a disrespect to myself, it's a disrespecting.
It's disrespectful to my hiring manager who I actually see four
times a week. You know, it's it's it shows
that I'm being ungrateful to theperson that hired me after I
gave him that whole song and dance.
How much of a good worker I am and how much I communicate and

(34:00):
and all this and I I don't, I know, call no show on your ass
and and and and and you have no clue what's going on with me.
You know if you had, even if youhad somebody who is insanely,
insanely good, there's still like, I don't care how funny you

(34:20):
are. It's the business side of things
that people have to that trips them up.
Why aren't you know you're if you're not professional, you're
not a headliner. You're not a headliner.
If you're not professional, if you don't know how to, you know.
If you made a booking agreement with somebody, if you already

(34:42):
agreed to do a show with them and then blow them off, you're
not. You're not in any way shape or
form a real headliner. Because I don't.
It's not just about being funny.It's the business side of this
thing. I always say this, I don't care
how funny you are. How are you off the stage now?

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Mind you, your job is to be funny on stage.
But if nobody gets along with you in the green room after the
show, then it's like you what you do is you throw the vibe
off. You know what I'm saying?
Case in point when when we did ashow in in Virginia and Alex

(35:23):
headline and Alex. I've worked with Alex a handful
of times. Another great Rd. guy, You know,
really, really good Rd. guy. I introduced him, you know, to
the comics that were the regional comics that were there.
And he was very, I mean, again, you could not have asked for a

(35:43):
more professional human being who was just like any questions
that the young comics asked him.He was just like being very.
He was like being a. He was just answering questions
and just being very helpful. Hey, have you ever been in a
situation where XY and Z, man, he has no problem.

(36:07):
He was very and a lot of the thethe people.
He was great with the with the audience, and he was great with
the other comedians. That's what I like to do.
I like to build a vibe. And with Alex being being Alex,
I never had to sit well. Alex, you need to be more
professional. Alex is probably #1.

(36:29):
He's very funny. I've never seen him bomb.
I've never seen him do bad. He's very, very hilarious.
But when I hang out with him offstage, he's just, he is a joy to
be around. It's just like, bro, I will
like, I'll take. He's one of the guys that I
would actually take a bullet for.

(36:50):
I know not a lot of comics wouldsay that about him, but he's his
family has been nice. I met his family, I met his
kids, I met his wife a couple oftimes.
Dude, the guy is all about his business.
And again, that's that kind of professionalism that I look for.
If he was funny but not professional, I would be like,

(37:12):
you know what, OK, he's just a guy that I just can't book
again. Yeah, you know, and and and it's
not just. It's not just that whenever I
book a show, I got to make sure that I am booking comedians that
I feel will get along. Oh, oh, absolutely, Absolutely.
That's a huge thing. And it's funny that you said

(37:34):
that you would take a bullet from him for him, because I'm
telling you, I've seen his comedy and I could see that.
You'd have to do that. I could see.
Right. True.
That is true, yeah. So I think that that's
appropriate that you would say that about him and you're like,
yeah, here's the thing. When people ask me about his
comedy, like, what's his comedy like?

(37:56):
I'm like, well, it's conservative, but you know what?
It it's very conservative. But here's the thing though,
it's funny. And that is the name of the
game. He's, he's very conservative,
but he's also funny and you know, and and I've told this, I
told this to his face. I was like, look bro, I remember

(38:16):
we had the issue where we bookedhim at the Renton Civic Theatre
and I had some comics. Send me some eight.
Mel bad press about him. Eight Mel.
OK yeah, we could call it that. Like why why are you booking
this guy? And they would send me clips and
so I, I, I I called him, I called him on the phone.

(38:39):
I said hey, I am getting calls about XYZ proud boy, this and
all that. I'm going to give you the
opportunity to explain yourself.And you know what he did?
And he was kind of and in a way he was kind of like, look, I get
it, you're a producer and whatnot.

(39:01):
If you need to take me off your show, then I understand.
And I was like, OK, first of all, I am not taking you off the
show because nobody dictates whoI fucking book and who I don't.
But I did tell him this. If I don't care if you are part
of the Proud Boys, if you're going to have members of the
Proud Boys show up to my show, have them leave in an orderly

(39:23):
fashion when the show was over. That's all I ask.
Because you know what? Last time I checked, their money
spends green just like everybodyelse.
You are going to have your own. But But here's the thing,
though, I've been told that he'sa racist.
And you know what? I've never gotten that from him.
Yeah, like if I'm a if I'm a if he's a racist, whether I'm

(39:46):
paying him to do a comedy show, you wouldn't want to.
He wouldn't want to have anything to do with me.
I think that a lot of our very liberal, ultra Uber liberal
Seattleites think everybody, anybody who's conservatives are

(40:08):
a racist and you know, they werestirring the pot a lot, like are
what are you basing this off of?Have you personally sat down and
had conversations with this individual or is this something
that you've heard through the Grapevine?
Have you heard this from, you know, like?
Oh my gosh. Other people.
And like you said, you know, we do deal with comedians and so we

(40:31):
deal with a lot of egos. And so as you know, ego stands
for, everything gets overblown, OK?
And I see you. You're like, yeah.
Because that's because that's what it that's what it was.
Mind you, even I've known Alex years before I even booked him

(40:55):
on my first show. So.
But I've never, I've never gotten that racist feel to it.
So the way that I look at it, when whenever people would send
me these emails, I asked the same question you asked.
What is this based on? Because I've hung out with him

(41:18):
before. He's had conversations with me
before, even last year. Well, actually earlier this year
he he sent me a message asking me if I wanted to come out to
Oregon and do a show for him. And I'm thinking like he could
have called anybody else. Yeah.
But he called me to do a weekendwith him.

(41:38):
It I don't know too many races that want to hit.
And now with that being said, that was the I met his, I saw
his wife again, I saw his children, So respectable.
I'm like, wow, I don't if he's aracist, why am I having
breakfast with his family at a hotel that we're staying at?
Why are we buying weed together at a dispensary?

(42:01):
Like, why is he putting me in his vehicle?
He he didn't have to do that. So I think what it is at the end
of the day is work. So I kind of feel like maybe
there's some envy there. And see, that's what my kind of
point is, is that if you know that, Connie, if you've got

(42:21):
somebody who is actually really funny, but people don't agree
with their their style or the things that they say, they're
going to latch on to something that they feel is negative, and
then they're going to exaggerateit.
And I've seen other people do that same shit.
I've seen other people do that too, where they had they had

(42:44):
ears from other people and they would bad mouth a comic, but
because they were respected and they were funny, the people
would listen to them and not book people.
See, I don't believe in that. I think I've.
Seen it? Yeah, I I I do judge people by

(43:05):
their actions. And you know, again, everything
that I've learned about and and and know about Alex, Like I
said, just being with him in Oregon, being with him.
Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
Being with him in Hampton this guy is just again he's a comics
comic he's a great hang and and everybody who had who met him.

(43:30):
I mean we had a we had a woman on the show.
We had two black guys on the show.
We had a Jew on the show. I mean it was a very the the
lineup was very it was a very yeah so and and it wasn't like
Alex was damn we got too many black people on the show.
We got too woman. He was like, everybody do your

(43:51):
job so Alex can do his. And it was a great show.
I mean it was so great and and and and my and again Alex was a
professional. So with that being said, I don't
whenever a comic tells me, oh, this comic is this, this comic

(44:12):
is that I'm like I that comic has to give me the benefit of
the doubt. If a comic tells me, well, Mary
Ann is this, well, I know Mary Ann.
So the fact that you tell me that she's this or that, what
does that have to do? Why are you telling, First of
all, why are you telling me this?
You know, we have a podcast together.
Are you trying to drive a wedge between us?

(44:33):
I know Mary Ann's not racist. Have you met her fucking
husband? I know, right?
I actually had somebody at work try and pull that shit on me and
I already saw what direction it was going because I was pointing
out as you guys, everybody knowsI'm a safety professional.
Well, this person was not wearing some of their safety

(44:54):
gear. And I called him out on it and
then not I, you know, I just said, hey, you know, you need to
have da da, da, da da, need to have your safety glasses, need
to have your hearing protection.Da, da, da. 5 minutes later,
exact same person I saw not wearing any of that stuff.
And when I said, hey, we just had this conversation, Where's

(45:19):
your safety? Why are you going to call me?
Why are you saying something to me?
Why aren't you saying something to all these others?
See this person? Why are you saying something to
me? And I was like, oh, you've got
to be. And I said because you're the
person who's right here. And so the next day I went out
and I was, I saw him and I went to go tell him, hey, where you

(45:42):
were standing, the work you're doing, you guys on the side, you
don't need to wear the gloves all the time like we did on the
other side. And he goes, yeah, that's not
the point. I was trying to figure out why
you calling Mia, why you were signaling me out.
And I looked at him and I knew exactly where this was going.
I knew exactly. And I said, I just took a step
back and I pulled up a picture of Romeo.
I said, I'd like you to. I said I'd like to introduce you

(46:05):
to my husband. What did she come in here?
And I showed him a picture of Romeo.
And then he was like, well, you're well, it was because you
didn't say something. True.
There was managers standing there.
And I'm like, but so we were talking kind of going back to
that ego thing on the comedy thing.

(46:28):
Did I tell you that I found out that one of these bookers who
booked like 8 different clubs? OK, I recently found out that
this person would not book me for a few years because I didn't
recognize him once twice. I didn't recognize him twice.

(46:52):
And because of that he was so petty as to not ever book me and
admitted to putting women on booking women who weren't ready
because they had to fill the quota and people wanted women on
shows and all that stuff. And I was like, but you wouldn't
fucking book me. Why not?

(47:13):
You've been? Doing this longer than most of
the women that have graced that stage, Yeah.
Yeah. You know I don't.
The thing is, my I. That's fucking petty though,
because I didn't recognize him and I'm like thinking, yeah,
fucker, you put on 40 lbs. Sorry, I didn't recognize.

(47:35):
You. Oh Lord, I'm so glad you're not
saying his name either. You're such a professional.
I love it. But yeah, no, no, it's that's
that's that's kind of that's kind of sad.
I As far as booking, booking women, that's.
True. It's it's true.
That's how petty comedians can be.

(47:57):
And it's and it sucks that it has to it has to come to that
kind of pettiness where where it's like, oh, that you
recognition. It's like first of all, it
almost sounds like, I know because I know producers like
that Oh, where it's like, oh, ifthey don't notice me, I'm the
Booker. I'm the one that they should be
talking to. It's like, you know, and it's

(48:19):
almost like you're being a gatekeeper.
And we have a lot of that here in New York.
We have so much gatekeeping in New York.
It is so fucking it's it's terrible.
It makes it that much harder to get any better.
Now I I'm actually my Co workersand it's funny because I said

(48:40):
this today I was like if I wanted to do a if I wanted to do
a bringer show like I could easily get my Co workers to come
to a club to a bar to do a bringer show where I won't get
paid but and and they keep and they ask me all hey When's your
next show? When's your next show in New

(49:01):
York. We would love to come see you
that's all I keep. Oh we hear you're a comedian.
I like stand up comedy who's your influence or when's your
next show or I have a outside sales Rep who constantly asks me
when's your next show. Oh you're going to mobile when
are you going to do what Excuse me when are you going to do 1
here. And I and and I thought to

(49:22):
myself I'm not going to do, I'm not going to go to a stand up
comedy club here in New York, bring 20 of my Co workers so
they could watch a show that I'mon and I don't get any kind of
compensation for it. Yeah, no shit.

(49:44):
I I found a nice venue not too far from my job where I could
book that out and they could seea show and I would be like hey
you know what you don't have to pay full price we'll we'll
discount your tickets we just want you there and and I could
easily have, if the date is works out for them, 20 people at

(50:07):
that place on top of whoever. So why would I give a comedy
club free money only to get a residency that's only going to
last me how long A month? Yeah.
That's rather you know and it's just like oh wow, I could bring
7810 people. No, I'm not doing and I know I

(50:30):
could but I won't do it because I gained nothing from it.
And what I'm doing also with these Bringer shows is instead
of me being a part of the solution, I am being more part
of the problem And I'm I am making this OK, I have not done
I've done one Bringer show and Iwas like, you know what?

(50:51):
I am better than this. That's right.
I am a 12 year comedy veteran. I am better than a bringer show.
So I will not. I will not bring 10 people.
Who's going to pay $25? I.
Mean. That that's, that's what, That's
$250 right off the bat on top ofA2 drink minimum.

(51:16):
And you're going to tell and you're going to tell me that I'm
going to get a videotape of my set.
I got two clips that I have fromLAUGHS Comedy Club that got me
into two comedy festivals. I don't need a free, I don't
need the tape. I can go to Seattle, knock on

(51:38):
any comedy club door and be like, hey, I just need a 5
minute guest set. I just want to videotape me
doing this for a. And nine times out of 10,
they'll just be like, oh, you just want 5 minutes?
OK, no problem. That's it.
Here in New York, it's like pulling teeth to get on some of
these good stages or I won't kiss anybody's ass because

(51:58):
again, I'm a 12 year vet. I'm not going to go pay to do an
open mic. And I saw Leah Mansfield.
Actually, she again, in my opinion she's a very funny
comedian. Also, she posted something that
was like, why am I paying? Why are you paying to do open
mics? Why are these clubs and bars

(52:20):
paying to do? And we have a lot of them here.
And my thing is this, I am not going to pay some guy who's been
doing comedy for two months or two years 5 bucks to do 5
minutes. Because why?
I'm like if anything, you shouldbe paying me to do your fucking
show. I'm hilarious.

(52:40):
Do they have any? Does any?
Other entertainer have to do that.
It's funny because I like to. I love hearing.
Well, this weeds out the ones who are serious about it.
And no, we're paying your phone bill.
We get it. We're paying your fucking light

(53:01):
bill. We get it.
No. What?
The fuck do they care? What the fuck do they care?
Because you're living into some very funny people who may not
have the finances. And quite frankly, how many
people do you know when they first start out is worth anybody
paying to go see? Almost nobody.
There you go, 2 zeros right there.

(53:21):
Yeah. And The thing is, you sucked
when you started. I sucked when I started.
We all did because we had to learn to with.
That's why they call it doing the grind, OK?
And you aren't shit for the first five years, typically.
There's some people. There's always exceptions to the
rules, but the reality is, is that those first five years

(53:45):
you're still learning, you're still like trying to find your
voice and get your cadence and so to and it's a disservice it
it absolutely slanders comedy completely, but.
Not for nothing. I will buy a drink to support
the venue. Yes I will.

(54:08):
I will buy some. I'll buy food.
I will do anything to support the venue, but if I'm putting
cash in hand to some snot nose punk who is not even remotely as
funny as half the people that showed up, then I I call
shenanigans. I'm like.

(54:29):
Absolutely so. Like so and and not now.
Not for nothing. Couple not last Friday I went to
an open mic. I paid 5 bucks.
There was three people in the audience and there was only one
other comedian besides myself and the host that was there and

(54:51):
everybody was supposed to do 5 minutes.
I said, well, since you don't have anybody here, I'm going to
do 15 because I got some new stuff that I want to work on.
I was in front of three teachersand they were there before I
even showed up and they weren't even drunk.

(55:12):
They were talking to me during my set, which I didn't even
mind. I'm like, look, you're not
disrupting anything, There's only there's only five of us
here. But the thing was, I paid 5
bucks just to hear new joke, just to tell you how a new joke
sounds in front of three women. And I was like, you know what?

(55:35):
And then they're oh, well, it's usually, I'm not interested in
what it usually is. It's not packed to fucking
night, OK? It's not packed tonight.
There's it's not even halfway full.
And it's just like, that's why Idon't like doing open mics.
I don't like them because nobodyagain, Snoot Seattle.

(55:57):
You could do an open mic on a Wednesday or a Monday,
Motherfucker. Show up.
Yeah. They are there.
They they're they're supportive.Whatever it's it's it's very
different because it's funny like I I told Jonathan, I'm like
look we're going to do an open mic Thursday.
When we get there I'll look to see what open mic is going on

(56:19):
and we will go there and we will.
We will do that. It'll be like a warm up for the
show that we do the Friday and that we're going to do the
Friday and Saturday. But it's like and and The thing
is, I will say this, whenever I'm in Seattle or the Pacific
Northwest, I the one thing that I take pride in is actually
doing an open mic there. I'm like, I feel, I'm like, you

(56:43):
know what? I'm going to do an open mic.
I That's the one thing that I miss about comedy in Seattle,
comedy in Portland, comedy in Olympia, comedy in Tacoma is I
could go there, do, and they'll be something that resembles an
audience. I'm not saying it has to be
fully packed or whatever, but I just need enough where if I tell
these jokes to even 10 people inan audience, I'm going to get 10

(57:06):
different reactions or the same reaction that's favorable.
But here it's like people are doing open mics and there's
nobody in the fucking audience. It's like, what's what's the
point? What's the point?
There's so much and and and Silas said this a while back
when we had him on the show herein New York, there's other
things that people could be doing.
Who wants to be in an open, Who wants to be at a comedy club on

(57:28):
a Thursday at 5:00 watching a bunch of wannabe comics be
trying to be comics? I don't even want that for
myself. Like, who's trying to do that
work or where you go to a show and there's no real audience
members and half your and 90% ofyour audience is comedians.

(57:51):
Who wants that? Oh, it's horrid you.
I'm not. I'm not saying.
I'm not saying it. I mean, yes, it sounds like I'm
shitting on the whole game here,which I kind of am.
But it's like, think about it, like it's it's it's you're not
really benefiting yourself because it's like and I feel and
lately because I'll be on the train, I write all the time.

(58:12):
I've been writing jokes for the past month now because I'm
trying to get new material. I want to bring something back
to Seattle where it's like, OK, yes, you guys have heard these.
Now here's these that I know that I know are are really good.
The only problem is it's hard toit's I don't feel like I'm
learning anything. When I come to these again, when

(58:35):
I say open mics, to open mics where there's nobody there, I
don't feel like I'm learning something.
So if I go to like mobile or anywhere outside of New York, I
usually go there a day early so I could go to an open mic and
see what that audience is like. Hey, let me let me go throw this
out here and see, you know, see if this audience would like it.

(58:56):
Because even if you don't like it and the joke is shitty, at
least I'm learning something. I'm like, OK, they didn't like
this. Maybe I need to make some
changes or make it make it funnier, of course.
But I can't do that when I'm in a room full of majority
comedians, or if there's nobody in the audience or there's like
8 people and five of them are comedians.

(59:17):
I can't do that. You know it's headed.
Speaking of shows, you got ropedinto doing a show.
I saw your post. You got to talk about that.
You've got to talk about what happened.
So at my job that I love so much, I find out that we are
doing a holiday party at my job and it's the first annual one,

(59:42):
which I'm just like, wow, you guys didn't do anything like
before that. But and the and The thing is
like, the holiday party actuallystarts after our after work.
So it's like we get off at 4:30,but this party's going to start
at 5:00. So they're like, hey, you want
to stay. And you know, and they got the

(01:00:02):
budget. They got the budget from court.
I'm like, wow, I found out they're going to pay you.
So that is that has been discussed.
So, and also what I decided to do is, I've also decided that I
am going to have a comic come inand open for me I was.

(01:00:24):
Going to say if you don't have at least one or two other
comics, you better. Get some because so warm meaning
how somebody. Can warm up.
Yeah. So I don't know.
We talked about like as far as the entertainment goes, they
gave me what the time frame was going to be.
So I'm like, OK and it's not bad.
They're like 20 minutes. I'm like, that's perfect.

(01:00:46):
That is perfect. So I actually called Jonathan to
see if he was able to do it, to come and do like at least, you
know, like 8 minutes or what have you.
But I am actually going to get it.
I asked them before I got off work.
I said hey, is it cool if I invite a fellow comedian to the

(01:01:07):
party to as entertainment to open for me?
And they were like Oh yes, he could come in as long as he
comes in and he knows that he's the entertainment we'll even
feed him. So we're like great.
He's going to, he's going to getwhoever is going to do this,
decides to do this is going to meet my Co workers that are
going to have some great food because they're getting catered

(01:01:29):
and then there's like raffles and all that.
So I was asked moments after we found out that we're having this
party and I said yes, I will, I will attend it now.
I'm also the entertainment. They asked me if I wanted to do
a stand up comedy show and as some of you guys saw on
Facebook, in my head I shouted no.

(01:01:49):
Like no I was. Don't do it.
No. What?
My body didn't listen, didn't hear me shout out.
No. So therefore I am actually going
to do this. I I knew that I had to be clean.

(01:02:11):
But everybody that's there, theylove stand up comedy.
They love it. They don't even care that if I
get dirty. But we do have a couple of women
that work and that work you know, that work with us and I
there and we have a, you know, acouple of religious people that
are there as well. So I want to be above reproach,

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you know, I mean they know how vicious I can be.
They hear me over the phone. So they they they know how
vicious as a person that I couldbe when I'm with my customers.
But at the same time, it I and you know, they were like, look,
we don't care if you're dirty. We don't care.
But you know there's certain people that are here that we

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don't want that, you know, we don't want to offend.
So if you could keep it clean, which I can and I'm more than.
And they allowed me to bring in another comedian to open, which
I'm very, very happy that they're going to do that.
And so yeah, and I in my 12 years of doing stand up comedy,

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I could count on a fucked up carpenter's hand how many times
I've done a corporate gig. I think this is going to be my
third corporate gig actually. I love them.
They're hard. But so here's how.
What day are you doing your gig?It's December 19th, which is on
a Tuesday. Next week, next Tuesday.
OK. OK.

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So right before Christmas. So and and the one thing is
you're working with somebody else that you know that you can
tell hey you want to keep this PG not just you want this rated
G clean, right. You want radio clean and and
that's fine because you guys I mean that's especially I mean 8

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minutes is not. I mean how anybody can do 8
minutes clean, 12 minutes clean.Yeah.
After 12 years of doing comedy, it's it's always one of those
things that do they have a good sound system.
You know what I know I have an idea on where we're going to do

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this at. So the acoustics is is I work.
Here's The funny thing I'm on the second floor of our of our
building and there is 1/2. There's only like there's I
could pace around my work on my floor.
There's there's so much space, so there's not really too many

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deaths. And there's only two people that
work like in the the main floor,the the 2nd floor.
I know we got two people downstairs working the cashier
and whatnot that does the same thing that we do, But
nonetheless it's like if they doit the way that I think we're
going to do it. I don't need a microphone.
Good acoustics. Perfect.
So here's how comfortable are you?

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I? To me, that microphone is my
clutch. Like, that's my.
That's like my It is a huge crutch for me.
Not clutch crutch, but it reallyfucking threw me.
I did a corporate gig where I didn't have a microphone.

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Oh my good God, it really threw me.
It really threw me not having it.
You know, it's funny that you say that.
I did when I was in Milwaukee for the for Oktoberfest.
I was with my buddy Ryan Gibbonsand we there was a magic show
that a very, very talented guy and funny Luka Andrews does.

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And I drunk off my ass. Anyway, I just jokingly said,
hey, don't you need some? Shouldn't you get somebody like,
open up for you? And Luka was like, yeah, would
you? You know what?
I was just thinking that would you mind doing that?
And I was like kind of half joking But then and then he was

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like, yeah, I usually have Ryan do it but yeah you're a
comedian. Yeah.
You you should. I wouldn't mind you doing it.
And The funny thing is I didn't have a microphone.
I thought I was going to have a we had the the wireless headset
like Janet Jackson has whenever she does her thing.
So I'm I'm I'm on a podium. I look like I'm about to I look

(01:06:36):
like like a mayor of a town that's complete that about
that's about to tell you why ourprime is so high And and I keep
and The thing is I kept toying with the fucking thing on the
side of my mouth while I'm telling jokes because I'm so
used to having a mic of course like holding the mic and being
able to do this. I am telling jokes in front of

(01:06:57):
like all these people that are here to see a magic show and I'm
just like you know telling thesejokes.
I keep I keep doing this while I'm but yeah, a mic I I I'm at a
point now where it's like I could do comedy and if I don't
need a microphone I could just, I talk with my hands a lot.

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So that's kind of good. Also there's only it's very rare
that you'll see me keep the microphone stand in front of me
with the mic on it and I just you know talk like you know hey
whatever. But I've, I've actually, I've
taken the practice of taking themic off the stand, putting those
stand behind me and just you know.

(01:07:42):
But that part right there, that's part of the the cadence
for doing your show. You walk up, you take your
microphone out, you take the micstand, set it aside.
You're used to being able to take your microphone and always
have it in, you know, So like even if you change hands or
something, you always have that microphone in front of you.

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Your hand is always up to your face.
You're always used to that. It's that talking without, like,
how the fuck do I do this? You know?
It was so unnerving that first round.
I'm not used to it. And I think that it takes a
different kind of it takes practice, it takes, you know, it
takes a like when I do my trainings and and I educate, you

(01:08:27):
know, I do a lot of training forsafety and I don't have a
microphone. I have just myself, my hands.
I I I don't know. So it's but it's a different
kind of feel to it to get up on on stage and talk to people, try

(01:08:50):
and tell my jokes. I'm so used to telling jokes
with a microphone that, like, you would have to give me almost
a fucking pencil just to pretend, you know, and I'll have
to. Explain to you guys.
How to use my straw? Because I used to have a
microphone and I don't know how to have a tell jokes without
something in my face. You know, when I when I do show,

(01:09:13):
I I remember I did a show and the microphone battery died.
So what I did was, you know, what I try to do is whenever
there's like a microphone malfunction or what have you, I
mean it's like, OK, that's the elephant in the room.
I try not to make like a big deal out of it.
I just know that I'm going to have to enunciate louder until.

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So what I usually do is if I don't have a microphone, I just
pretend that the collective audience is one person and I'm
just having a conversation with them, you know?
I mean it's it's pretty much thesame thing except for you're not
holding a mic. So I find myself if I'm not
holding a mic, I talk with my hands a lot and and not for

(01:09:57):
nothing. It's kind of freeing not having
a microphone or standing in front of a mic stand, it's it's
kind of, I kind of feel like it's a bit liberating.
Yeah, I could see where it wouldbe liberating once you got used

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to it. Yeah.
Once you got used to it, but I guess you know, like that first
time you ever have that microphone and you put it up to
your face, the very first time you got on stage, it felt like a
snake about to bite you. Like, you know, but then to not

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have one, it's it's just kind of, I don't know.
Well, it's it's just security blanket.
It is. You know, I mean, that is, it's
a tool that you need. Like for me, if I see a stage
and there's not a stool there, I'm like, OK, what are we
putting our stuff on? What do we put our drinks on?

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Even if I have to walk up myselfand put one there, you know
during my set, yeah, it's like Ineed, I need a stool.
You know I I need a stool more than I need a microphone to be
honest with you like. But of course the mic it it

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enunciate, you know it it basically you know the sound of
your voice. I don't even like the sound of
my voice behind the microphone. If I'm if I'm being quite
honest, I do not the sound of myvoice behind the microphone.
I don't, but you know, it sets the tone.
Having the microphone and havinga stool up there really sets the
tone for what's about to happen.And I think that it makes a

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difference, but it it makes it gets the audience ready, it gets
them mentally ready. They see that microphone, they
see the stool, they see you go up.
They see you set your your drinkor down on a stool it like and

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then it gives you a second to try to to take command of the
stage, even if that stage is a milk crate, you know.
Yeah. It it really does.
So yeah. Oh, I I wanted Sorry.
This seems like like out of out of the blue it seemed like a

(01:12:28):
good time to talk about this. So looking at our outline, and I
forgot to tell you so this is something that I'm really
excited about. OK.
I spoke with a future guest and I'm very excited.
She is. She's very much looking forward

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to being on the show with us fortwo.
Hours. The sex the sex therapist.
Yeah, yes, the sexual addiction therapist.
I'm already horny. I am already sprung.
So she said that weekends work best.
What? We're going to figure out the
logistics of sitting down and talking to her, right.

(01:13:10):
But what I really want to do here's, here's what my plan is.
This one here we are going to, I'm going to actually put out
the money and get it boosted. I will boost it on Facebook.
OK, yeah, I'm going to spend themoney to do that because I think
that it's something that is veryinteresting.

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And not a lot of people have theopportunity to say that they get
to talk to a sex therapist, a sexual addictions therapist.
The other thing that I want to do is I want to start asking,
like I want to promote it and start asking people what kind of
questions? If you were going to ask a
sexual addictions therapist a question, what kind of questions

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do you think we should ask? How do I turn it off?
And as you said though, is that there's a lot of questions.
There's a lot of questions. And how how funny is it going to
be? Like, not just not funny, Ha ha.
But like, it's going to be very entertaining to be able to ask

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this woman questions. Like, like, remember?
Did you ever watch Talk Sex withSue?
No. Oh, my God.
I used to catch my oldest son sneaking out at like 11:00 at
night to turn on the TV to watchthis show.
Right. She was this old lady.
Ah, she was this old lady, Old lady.
And she would talk about dildos and vibrators and butt plugs and

(01:14:40):
you name it. And she would talk very frank
about sex. Like, she's very, very open and
honest. Well, that's kind of like my
cousin Heidi, only she's younger.
I mean, so she she will talk, you know, like I I I'd like to
have conversations with her and go, you know, what are some of
the conversations. What is it like when you have
conversations with people and they talk about things like you

(01:15:05):
know the words. It's funny because we had a
conversation once and she said words that are in her vocabulary
at work very often include vibrator, dildo, and I'm like,
that's funny. Me as a comedian?
Me too. So you guys basically kind of

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kind of aligns kind of. Right.
And and it's so funny because I always talk to people.
I I said it all the time. When I was younger, my I had
actually considered being a sex therapist because I figured, why
not everybody tells me their sexlife.
Anyways, I should get paid for it.

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And then I realized that you know how the mechanic always has
vehicles that never run? And if you ever go to a maid's
house, that bitch's house is filthy?
And then I was like, I love sex way too much to ever give it up.
Like, I mean, imagine what it'd be like people telling you their
horrible sex life. Like, not.

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I mean, not just horrible, but like, some really heinous shit
that you're trying to help them through.
It would color what you do. Like years and years ago, I
actually ended up and I've talked about this before about
how I used to work a phone sex line and how that fucked with my

(01:16:34):
head when I would have sex because like I couldn't come
home and talk to the husband about, you know, I couldn't come
home and do sexy talk because I was like, EW, EW, EW, this is so
creepy, right? Imagine if you, and that's just
over the phone, you don't get tosee these people.
You don't have to have a deep conversations with you're like

(01:16:55):
until, you know, you talk to himfor about 3 to 5 minutes until
they're like, thanks. And then, you know, that was it.
Imagine sitting face to face with these, you know, some of
these people, right. I'm just saying, I think that
it's going to be an interesting,I think it's going to be an
interesting show. Indeed I think it will be too.

(01:17:17):
So the way that I, if you know when she's definitely available
will book her, Oh my God, will book her no questions asked.
We will definitely we will definitely make that work.
I would like to do this as earlyin the year as possible because
it's it's it is it's very interesting and it also it also

(01:17:44):
transitioned to this topic that you had shared with us.
And so when when it's funny, I remember when I saw your initial
message and I read it, I was like OK, anything that you
usually send, I'm like OK, yeah we could talk about it because I

(01:18:08):
like interesting. I'm all about interesting.
So the next day I just I I came home from work and I just, I
clicked on it because I was going to work on the outline and
I clicked on it and I and I had to read the, the, the out, the,
the title of the of the. Actually I'll go back to it
right now read the title of the of the of the article.

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And I read the article three times yesterday and the more
that I read it, I was like, holyshit, we are actually going to
talk about this. Well, hold on, let me let me
tell you where I found this article.
OK. Because I think it bears talking
about I get I, you know after 50I became a member of AARP

(01:18:55):
right. I get my 10% discount at
Denny's. What you know.
So and they send emails all the time about like we have
different topics and you know like fraud, looking up, old
people look out for fraud. How to protect yourself, How to
stay active, How to stay healthy, How to blah blah blah

(01:19:16):
blah blah And this one here. And I almost always just delete
the e-mail. Like I almost always, this one
stopped me in my tracks and I said this one.
This one definitely spoke to you, huh?
Oh my God. Well I had to read it because
the title and this was the e-mail.
The title on the e-mail. And then when I opened the

(01:19:38):
e-mail, I had to search to find the article.
And that's what kind of pissed me off because I had to search
through all this other bullshit,like, where's the fucking
article, you know? And the article says spice it up
with sex toys for older adults. And I went, I'm an older adult,

(01:19:58):
What are you talking of? What are you speaking to me?
And so then I was like, Oh my God, we've got to talk about
this on the show. And I didn't even read the
article yet. I have not even read it yet.
That was bad. I read now it's fun that you
said AARP because when I clickedon the link I always ask my I

(01:20:22):
always like to know where is thesource coming from and when I
saw AARPI was like, oh, you got to be fucking kidding me.
I read the article today. You sent this to me, I think
like 3 days ago. Yeah.
And I just kind of, I looked at the, the headline.
I was like, all right. And so I'm like, I'm working on

(01:20:45):
the article. I mean, I'm working on the
outline. And I was like, well, of course
I got to read this so I could get a, you know, so we can get a
better understanding. And I read this article three
times because I'm 41 years old, going to be 42.
I'm not quite 50 yet, but I I'm pretty sure that I am going to

(01:21:05):
be in this category at some point if I if I live to be 50.
Here's here's the the I I I did read probably the 1st 2
paragraphs and this is the one that stopped me like Oh my God
and and this is brilliant and itsaid lightweight, ergonomic and
easy to operate. The sex toy industry is coming

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up with ways to help the over 50crowd find pleasure at a time in
life that can be challenging in bed.
Tell me more, AARP. Tell me more.
And that is one of the bullets on the South.
Right. I was like, tell me more
lightweight ergonomic. Like I'm a safety professional.

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That's my language. Ergonomic.
Ergonomic. Or however they want to fuck.
Yes, tell me more. AARP.
You know, Speaking of that, as Iwas reading the article,
something that struck me was, was this statement one of the
biggest hurdles giving yourself permission to use the sex toys?

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And this is according to MarilynJerome, who's an MD at a
Washington, DC gynecologist whose practice consists
primarily of older women. Jerome recalls being thrilled
when a single woman in her 80s felt compelled talking to her
about how she still feels sexualbut had been taught masturbation

(01:22:36):
is wrong. She advised her patient to get a
vibrator. I fucking love this.
That at 80 years old, the woman still wants to knock it out.
She wants to just bang the bottom of that pussy out.
I love that. I love that.
And and you know what? I don't even need to.
Quite frequently we don't even need to bang the bottom out.
All we need is a little you knowand you know, because it it gets

(01:22:59):
really dry, so you just have a little extra moisture.
But something else ergonomic. We don't want to give ourselves
carpal tunnel using a vibrator. I mean, they thought of
everything. You know, 80 years old, you
would think. At least I would think that
there is no sex drive there at 80.

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Like you're not even you're not thinking about when you're going
to get banged or when you're going to have, I mean, but I
will say this though, I have a handful of friends who works in
nursing homes and this is what they say.
There have been times where theywould have to.

(01:23:41):
Where they're they're having sex, like group sex.
It's all kind of shit. I'm like, get the fuck out of
here. They're like, I'm not even
kidding. Let me let me ask you something.
Do you honestly think that in 30years your mind is going to be

(01:24:03):
any different about sex? The See.
And that's the thing. IA Pardon me.
Well, 30 years, I'll be what, 70?
I don't know. I'm telling you, as a woman
who's 54, I think about sex the same amount and want it just as

(01:24:25):
much as I did when I was 34. Oh, OK.
I can guarantee you I do. And the mind is willing.
The mind is. I'm just happy that I could even
have sex at my age now. Oh my God, you're only 40.
I know, But sometimes I'm like, oh, wow.
I could, you know, I got this. I can still, you know, get it up

(01:24:49):
and, you know, plow through the plow through the landing strips.
Why do you think Why do you think that Viagra is such a huge
I I this is the first time I gotto tell you, this is the first
time that I've ever heard about like sex toys for old.

(01:25:11):
I would sell the shit out of this.
Let me tell you something. I'm ready to almost give up my
job and go fucking door to door to all these fucking old folks
homes. Have we talked to you about the
vibrator, the the Super B2000? It's wonderful.
It's lightweight, ergonomic, andpart of what makes it so
lightweight is that it's rechargeable.

(01:25:33):
You just plug that sucker in next to your night stand next to
your cell phone. I'm so in in Doctor Jerome's
lobby there's a display case featuring 8 vibrators made of
medically medical grade siliconethat are attractive, easy to use

(01:25:58):
and comes with a charger, USB port and a carry in case.
She also stocks dilators that, with lubricant stretch out the
vagina and relaxes the vaginal muscles to help to help prepare
for comfortable penetrative. Sex.

(01:26:19):
OK, here's here's what I need toknow about this.
OK, I got to I got to tell you again, I have like, I've
considered myself pretty up. No, I've never heard of a
dilator. Why the hell?
But I can get it. I can understand.

(01:26:40):
Basically what they're saying isis old pussy is tight pussy, and
I'm telling you that. I hope to never, never know
that. Here's what I'm going to tell
you was a woman was getting older.
Yay. But here's what you know.
I remember having a conversationwith a friend of mine years ago.

(01:27:06):
A friend, AKA Riggs And about I said I did not know this because
I'm not going to go into all thenitty gritty details.
So I'm just going to say that I had a period of time in my life
where I was almost abstinent foreight months or eight years.

(01:27:26):
Not by choice, but it was enforced abstinence because I
was an idiot. But anyways, one of the things
that I was sitting there talkingto my friend Riggs about who's
another comedian and I was like Riggs, dude did you know that
like much like like a, a vagina is like a stomach if you don't
feed it it shrinks. And so he was telling me a story

(01:27:51):
about how he would he got with this.
It was this got to be one of thefunniest stories ever He and I'm
like because he's such a whore. I mean, he was, he was such a
whore. And he was telling me about the
story about how after one of hisshows this, these three women
who came out to see the show basically told them they wanted
him to knock the bottom out of one of their girlfriends who

(01:28:13):
hadn't had any in like 12 years.And he was like, I'm up for the
challenge. And so the two friends literally
like whacked down the Bush and make sure you're like they were
in there. I mean they were true.
They were ride or die bitches for real because they went in

(01:28:35):
there and hacked away, made surethat they got it all nice and
groomed and pretty looking and all that other stuff.
I'm like, yeah, yeah, for real. And then they were sitting, I
think like with their backs turned on on the edge of the bed
talking to each other as he's just banging it out.
I'm thinking that there had to been some alcohol involved with

(01:28:56):
these women. But anyways.
There's got to be alcohol involved with any any party
involved in this. Right.
And so he was telling me, he goes, he goes, it was so rough.
He goes, he goes, I almost couldn't penetrate because she
had shrunk so much. Yeah.
And so I was like much again, use it or lose it.

(01:29:21):
Use it or lose it. That was always after having
that conversation with him. In my own experience I was like
use it or lose it Ladies, I'm telling you, if you don't the
caves may close and never to be opened again.
But now they're telling me that they actually have a ring that
you can slide up in there and itcomes pre looped.

(01:29:43):
What? No more spitting on it fellas.
No more just spinning. Oh man, here's what I hear from
God. Bless AARP.
Yeah. Oh my God.
They knew what they were doing. I've been told by many elderly

(01:30:06):
people that and and and these are people that are like like 49
and up, that the older you get, the better it gets.
I mean, married I, I, I've had conversations with married
couples well into their 50s thatthey're just like, oh, he still

(01:30:29):
chases me around the living roomlike we were in our 30s.
Like like really just just he's got the strength and the speed
to chase you, to chase you in the living room.
And when I get old, yeah. And.
And The thing is, it's like whenI hear these stories and and

(01:30:50):
mind you, first of all, when it comes to sex, old, older women,
older men, they are more mature with the conversation than even
I am with the subject. You know they would because
whenever they speak about sex, especially when they're married,
it's like, oh, you know, I know I was.

(01:31:13):
I know I was going to love him forever.
He's he's my one and only. But the sex with him gets better
and better every time. Like, we we spruce it up.
You're 55 years old. How's how Like what?
Give me examples because again, I want, I want to be able to
pound poon well into my 70s, OK?As a matter of fact, I want, I

(01:31:37):
want to be a chalk line on a woman because I died.
Because I was up in there. Like, I want her to have chalk
all over her. Like, what happened to you?
Oh, I was this was part of a dead person's chalk line.
I got to go home and shower. Like, want to keep doing that
until then. But yeah, I hear these stories

(01:32:01):
where they're just like, oh, yeah, we're still long and
strong. And now, mind you, they, I mean,
you know, they would have to usesupplements like Viagra or
whatever, which is, you know, I'm all for it.
I mean you got to, you got to dowhat you can to, you know, keep
your woman happy. But but I find it hard to
believe. And again I won't know until,

(01:32:24):
you know, I get to live that long that that 80 year old
vagina is. I mean, I don't know.
Again, I hope to never know, butat some point I may have to.
But it's like, wow, really. And And again, when I talk about

(01:32:46):
it, I sound like a child. I sound immature and I don't
know what the fuck I'm talking about, even though I've done it
a bunch of times. But when I hear the elderly
people talk about it, they, I mean it's like and and forget
the fact that they're talking about it, they don't even get,
they're just like it's it's a casual conversation.

(01:33:07):
They don't even give a shit thatyou think that they're weird,
that they're still knocking it out at that age.
You know what I'm willing to bet?
I am willing to bet? That you could talk to your
parents right now. Somebody else could talk to your
parents. You wouldn't want to.
And they could. They would talk to you like it
was nothing. I mean, the reason why that's
one of the beautiful things about getting older.

(01:33:28):
Oh, and This is why sex is so much better.
You're way, way less inhibited. You are way more in tune with
your own body and you're way more vocal.
You're way more vocal as far as being able to tell your partner,
especially if you're in a committed relationship, what you
do and don't like and what you do and don't want.

(01:33:49):
And, you know, like, I, I have to say that to me.
I'm looking forward to having sex all up into my 70s and 80s
because I know that I'm with somebody who I'm already.
So I've never been more comfortable with in my life.
And I'm telling you, that is amazing When you find somebody

(01:34:09):
that you were so, like, you got all your flappy, Dappy areas,
like, you know, flopping and youlook like you've got fucking
chicken wings and you're up there and you're like, whoa, try
to hang on. You know what?
And they still are, like, knocking out.
Like you are so beautiful and I'm like, you're so fucking
blind. Keep knocking it out man.

(01:34:30):
You know. OK, so something that you might
have been able to do half ass itwas.
Look, when you was younger and in your 20s you could knock it
out for hours but it wasn't verygood.
Now you might be able to knock it out for 5 minutes, but holy
shit that 5 minutes is amazing. Like rock your world.

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Amazing. Interesting.
There's nothing better than being completely told,
especially for women because women were so self-conscious.
We're so conscious of what we look like and you know, Oh my
God, what am I doing? How am I?
You know, it's that it is something that you aren't.

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You're you aren't fully in the moment, you aren't in the like
in the sensation of feeling everything, but you get caught
up in your head. Instead of being able to tone,
turn out that voice inside your head.
Just tune it out and enjoy the sensation and the feeling and

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stop worrying about what you look like, because they don't
care either. In fact, at when you get in your
50s, you walk over and turn the fucking light on so you can see
what you're doing instead of keeping the light off because
you don't want nobody to see you.

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I like the lights off. I don't know why but I right.
But when you're younger, you do you leave the lights off because
it's the ambiance is sexy. At our age, we're like, turn the
fucking light on. I can't see anything.
I can't you. Know.
Could you just imagine You're about to do it.

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Lights are off and just like oh whoa whoa whoa, put the light
on. Like, what the fuck?
Oh yeah, Oh yeah. And and and guys they want to
see. I've it's always the guys who
want to have light on there and women are like no, dude, enough.
I don't let you see me. Yeah, right.
Right. No, no.
Nowadays you're like I I need you to be able to see me because

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I don't need you to take something north and go South.
Yeah. And then all of a sudden I'm
like Happy New Year, you know what I'm saying?
We do not have one of those simulator rings up in my my
booty hole with the free loop. And I'll no, that is not no, no,
no, no, no. We are the wrong we need to go

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north. Go north, young man.
Yeah, boy oh man. Sex at fifty.
Wow. Oh boy.
And and older, yeah, that's just, yeah, I read that article
and it was just like, I'm like really?
People are people are getting all freaky at that age and you

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giving out these little safety sex toys and you know?
Sex is like actually a long timeago I'd actually read this and I
was reading a scientific articleand it was talking about the
science of sex. Is that it literally is a use it
or lose it. The less sex that you have, the

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less you want it, and your body becomes accustomed to not having
it and you have less desire. So if you want to have be more
sexually active, you actually have more sex because your body
will actually I don't want to say kind of crazy, but you know

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but that's also one of the reasons why when they when
they've they've had and I've known this has happened a few
times where they've had in church where the pastors have
challenged the married couples to have sex every single day for
30 days. And then when they came back
afterwards and they were talkingabout it, there was a lot of
deeper intimacy and a lot of more connection.

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That especially if if as a couples you've gotten older and
you start kind of drifting apartby having that sex every day for
30 days. It re vitalizes your
relationship and it it does makeyou feel much deeper bond with
that person because that physical connection like that

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the the deep one of the deepest bonds is skin on skin But and
and that's you know moms with their babies, they put the baby,
you know your your skin is your largest organ And so when you
have that skin on skin contact and which is why couples hold
hands and you know you hold eachother's faces and stuff.
I mean that's part of that skin on skin contact.

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But to take it to that next level where you're both, you
know, naked and you feel each other's skin and then there's a
bang at the end. That orgasm.
You know, that's stupid, you know, But it it is, it is very

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healthy. So why wouldn't you want to do
that into your 50s, sixties, seventies 80s, man, As long as
you can get that shit up. Make it happen.
You know, it's funny. When I was a kid, like I would

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say like when I was like betweenlike 15 and 20, I always thought
about, Oh yeah, I totally want to be with the older woman.
You know, you always here talks about like how they, they teach
you how to do things better and what not.
And I actually dated a woman whowas like way older than me when

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my, when I was like in my mid 20s, way older than me.
And we did it. And it was almost like, as
intimate and as hot and as passionate as it was.
And I kind of felt like if I wasfucking up in the bed, she
would, like, gently teach me, you know?

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I remember one time, OK, I mightas well.
God, I can't believe I'm OK. So one day I was performing
cunnilingus and I was fucking itup, Like she had to like
literally grab my head and like like like grab my head from her

(01:41:18):
lap and like looked at me and she's like, look, I'm going to
show you how to do this so you can get it right, mind you, like
my I'm like, OK, you. Look like a glazed doughnut, OK?
I have a drool coming out the side of my mouth.
OK And and it was like, from there on out, I was like on

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point, You know, I wasn't reallygood at it.
It was like a first. Yeah.
She was like the first person I've ever done that to.
And I was, I was bad. It was awful.
And she had to like, show me howto do it.
Show me like what spots they hitand all that.
And and I could, you know, I felt like her thigh, like

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kicking me in, like the like, I'm like, oh, I must be doing
it. All right, cool.
You know, so it was just like, you know, you older older women
know what they want and they andand for the most part now The
thing is if you can't fuck, they're like, what about I got

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to waste their time with you. They're just like oh, you're
just a young kid who's just nothing but just talk and you
can't even like, Nope. They need somebody who can like
bring the heat. You know what I'm saying?
And it's it's yeah, like these alot of these old ones that are
trying to like, I'm on a young cat that knows how to handle
himself in bed. Well, I don't have to train or
teach often. But yeah, when it came to that,

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she definitely schooled me on how to pleasure the area if
I've. Yeah.
And that's just it, though. It's just that I think that that
there's definitely a there's I think maybe that's one of the
reasons why older women some of these older women are attracted

(01:43:11):
to these younger guys, these younger boys is you know to kind
of which I've never understood that at all.
I'm like, to me that's just likegot to be the grossest thing
that these women and then why are they teachers that are
getting fired for fucking these little boys, you know that are
they're, they're 12/12. I mean, because it's

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unprofessional. It's like your your job is to
teach, not to bang children. Oh, they're teaching them, but
that's not what they need to learn.
Yeah, they're not learning what.They're not learning their
social. They're learning social studies,
but not, you know, not the textbook stuff.
They need to learn some math andEnglish.

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Yeah, I don't believe that. You know, like, I mean, me
growing up, most of my teachers were unattractive.
I can't even think of a single teacher that I when I went to
school that I always thought like, oh I would totally bang
her. I can't think of 1.
My teachers kept my boners like at Bay.

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Lucky you, huh? Yeah, I I could say I had one
college professor that was she was she was an attorney super
hot. I would have killed to be one of
her paralegals. Super hot.
And sometimes when they're hot, they're that hot you you could
pay attention, learn a lot. I was always trying to be, like,

(01:44:40):
impressive during the conversations about, like, legal
terms. Like, yeah, I read the book.
Yeah. But, you know, I found out she
was married and I'm like, oh, and and her husband went hunting
a lot. So, you know, you know how that
goes. He's got guns.
That's funny. So we are I I was kind of

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jumping topics here. I wanted to get your your
thoughts on this one because I, I work in the construction field
everybody knows I'm I'm in the construction, I'm safety blah
blah blah blah. And we did a the company did a
town hall meeting. Now mind you this is AI work for
a fairly large company. They have, they employ like

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36,000 employees. So they they're they're a large
company and one of the things that blew me away was they were
talking about homeowners. And this is an interesting
statistic that they they they research showed that 71% of

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homeowners listen to country music.
Believe it or not, country musicis the most popular genre of
music in this country. A lot of people think it's rap,
it's not rap, and it's not hip hop.
It is country music. I believe that.

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I can believe that. And I started thinking about it.
And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I listen, I know that there's a
few people that don't that absolutely abhor it, but I think
that there's probably, I mean obviously there's way more
people that do listen to it thendon't.
And I think that there's also that that that crossover from

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country to Top 40 and I've listened to like there's
actually radio stations that combine the two country and top
40s and they're very popular because, you know, So what I
guess what I'm saying is I'm nota weirdo.
I I am eclectic. I like my all my different kinds

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of music, and I'm not the only one.
Here's a Here's a stat for you. Over 150 million Americans
listen to country music on a regular basis.
They still get their music across a number of channels.
Music streaming is the third most popular listened main
option for country music fans and radio and video being more

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common. Interesting.
So with that being said, 42% themost, I mean it is the most
popular genre in the US. Well it says the most popular
genre in the US is rock and indie music with 45% of
respondents who listen to the radio or digital music content

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saying that they listen to country and pop. 42% of them
respectively listen to country music.
So I remember when I was a Boy Scout and we would drive from
our our clubhouse to wherever wewere going at summer camp in the

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on the drive there it was non-stop country music and I was
I was not a when I was in juniorhigh was not a country fan at
all. I did disliked it wholeheartedly
and I tried my best to to give myself a concussion so I could
go to sleep and not listen to, not listen to it.

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But as I get older and again, I I go down to Texas a lot, I go
down to the South a lot and I hear it and I'm just like, you
know what? I get it, you know, I hate it a
lot less now than I did when I was, you know, 13.
But you know, the other day I I played a song by Hootie and the

(01:48:50):
Blowfish and I was kind of like,OK, you know, I don't feel like
killing myself. I feel kind of good.
So but nothing, nothing, a lot of, I mean, I don't listen to
it. I don't, I don't really care for
it. But when I do listen to it, or
if I ever am stuck in somebody'scar and they're playing it, I'm

(01:49:12):
actually more into it now than Iwas again, you know, 20s, some
odd years, 30s, some odd years ago.
I I I've learned to kind of likeunderstand it and and I get it,
you know, I mean, not for nothing.
It's like compare country music to rap music.

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Like it's apples and oranges, right?
You know, compare country music to rock music, to me, apples and
oranges, you know. So it's just like, you know, I
don't. I am not.
If I'm at a bar and someone putsa country song in a jukebox,
chances are they're probably a shit kicker.

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And it's like, it makes sense, but it but it makes sense.
You know, if I go to a bar and Iplay a hip hop song, a rap song,
it makes sense. Oh, of course, you know, of
course the darky, you know, playthat song.
That makes sense. You know what I'm saying?
So it's just like with country music, it's, you know, you got

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the writer singing a song about his morning, you know, or
singing a song about a breakup. And like getting into details,
you know, it's it's actually a lot more calm to listen to most
country music than it is, you know, I listen to rock'n'roll
music, I listen to heavy metal. I'm at.

(01:50:39):
I'm at my job. I got my phone sitting on my
desk and it's playing music frommy Spotify on a random I do not.
I will say this, I don't have country music on my playlist at
all. Now name the one popular.
You know what? I can't.
I was watching football and theyhad, they were interviewing, oh,

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what's the. Oh God, it'll come to me.
He's one of, like, the greatest country stars of all time.
And he did. I'm sorry.
Garth Brooks. That's it.
Garth Brooks. See, that's how much.
And if you were to ask me to name one Garth Brooks song, I

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couldn't. I I couldn't.
I don't. He could be singing a song right
now and I wouldn't even know it's him.
I couldn't sing. I don't know a line of Garth
Brooks song. I don't know a line of Florida,
Georgia Line song. I know who these people are you
know. But if you were to ask me, hey,
what is Florida Georgia Lions biggest hit see this couldn't

(01:51:47):
tell you. I would have to use a lifeline
and call one of my southern friends and be like, hey, you
know what's what, what's what's Florida Georgia Lions.
They would be more surprised that I even got Florida Georgia
Line the name right and not likeGeorgia Florida Line and and
fuck their names, like they would be surprised that I knew.

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You know, I've heard of Travis Tritt and what Clint Black and
I've heard of all these these things.
Of course, Dolly Parton, you know, I cannot name you one
fucking country song. I can't name it.
That's the one genre I am like completely.

(01:52:28):
Oh wait, hold on. Brooks and Dunn, Hard Working
Man. I know that title.
OK. Yeah, I know that because I
because I fit that description. So I sing that on the way to
work. You know what I'm saying?
I'm a hard, hard working man. I think I like that.
I like that song, actually, but that's like the only only

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country song as a black man fromthe East Coast knows.
OK, so first of all, I think youprobably know more country songs
than you think, Jolene. OK, I know.
OK, yes. I don't know the words.

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I know the chorus. But yeah, Jolene.
Yes, I've. I've heard that song.
Iconic song, iconic and there isprobably but bunch more.
I'm surprised that you mentionedClint Black.
He hasn't been relevant since 1990.
Yeah, but. But I was living in Texas.

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Oh, no, 1990. No, I was actually on the East
Coast in 1990. But, you know, it's just like
even when I was living in the South, like if I was, if I heard
a country song, it was like a car passing by.
Like I would never. I mean I was still listening to
rap music like in the in the in the mid 90s even.

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And I'm in a Southern, in a southern state where country
music was like, it's like it's like big.
So you'll see, you know in the lunchroom a bunch of guys
talking about like the latest song that came out and it's a
country song. And again, way over my head, I

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don't know. Is Hootie and the Blowfish
considered country? Hootie.
No. Darius Rucker?
Yes. OK, OK, because I know some of
their songs. And actually, it's funny that
you say that, because actually Hootie and the Blowfish is
getting back together. They're doing a tour.
That I have heard again. Which?

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Is awesome. I would love to go see them.
I'm going to try and figure out how to win tickets for that,
because that's awesome. All right, We are just about.
At that time, OK, well usually that around this time we talk

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about the shows or movies or what have we that we are binge
watching Marianne Sherwood, our lovely audience which you have
been binge watching these days. Oh my Lord, I am so boring.
I actually, I've had some alone time.
Oh, don't say that too loud. I know, I know.

(01:55:31):
And so I was watching Doctor Pimple Popper, one of my guilty
pleasures. And although I do have to say
that I it did 'cause me to freakout a bit.
You don't say. Well, the reason why is because

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one of the episodes that I watched actually showed the
surgery that I'm going to have next month.
OK, that's definitely much needed to much needed
information to know, yes. Yeah.
So the surgery that I'm going tohave where they're going to so
where they're going to go to remove the cancer and they go in

(01:56:21):
and they numb the area and then what they do is they shave off
like layers, take a scalpel and cut off a layer.
Oh, wow. OK.
And then they take it and freezeit and then slice it even
thinner and and then they put itunder a microscope and check to

(01:56:45):
see if all the cancer and they repeat the process until the
cancer is gone. OK.
And then they have to sew me back up.
And that's the part that like, like if they have any problems
finding enough tissue, they haveto do a skin graft.

(01:57:05):
So And all I could say about that was please God, please God,
don't let them skin graft the hair off my ass 'cause I don't
need to have a furry nose to boot, you know, like I got rid
of the fucking cancer, but I gotthis big old patch of fur.
Hey, small price to pay. That goes back to that old age

(01:57:26):
shit where you you lose the hairoff the top of your head.
But now in my great S, like, I Itake off my pants and you would
think that I had a furry. Like I just put on furry
underwear. Like, when did you buy those?
Fuck you, you know? So yes, that's what I was binge
watching. Wow, I've so last.

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I believe Monday, Andre Brauer died.
The guy from Brooklyn 99. He's been in a lot of good
movies like Glory, City of Angels.
I've actually been binge watching a lot of movies he's
been in. He was also in a show that I

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used to be able to watch, but I can't watch it now because no
one is streaming it. And that's Homicide, life on the
streets. He was a detective Pembleton,
great actor. He was such a great.
The thing is, like every time I watch a movie and I saw his name
in the credits, he you knew thatat least the scene that he was

(01:58:32):
in was going to be good. He he made, he made a lot of
movies good. He even had a small scene in the
striking distance. But I've never, I've not
watched, I've never watched a show, an episode of Brooklyn 99.
Now a part of me is kind of like, you know what to pay
homage. Maybe check it out.

(01:58:53):
Maybe watch that along with if Icould get or buy Homicide life
on the streets. I saw only one season of that
show and I fucking fell in love with it.
But yeah, it's he died. He was only 61 years old,
actually before we were on. I was watching Primal, I was

(01:59:14):
watching Primal Fear. I'm like 20 minutes in and he's
in that movie and I love Primal Fear.
I love that movie and he's really good in it too.
So I've been watching basically sort of binge watching a lot of
Andre Braugher movies and he's, I don't think he's ever really
carried a movie. He's always been like the the

(01:59:34):
good supporting actor. I watched City of Angels, which
I I I'm not a fan of that movie because the ending breaks my
heart. But it's such a good movie.
At the same time that there's some movies that I just
struggled even up to this day watching.
And I'm like, oh, this is such ahard watch for me.

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But at the end of the day, it's Meg Ryan, so you kind of don't
care. But it's City of Angels is
actually a pretty good movie. Nicolas Cage, Meg Ryan, It's a
good movie. It's just a movie that I could
watch once and be like, OK, the next two decades, I'll be fine.
But he's so good in that movie too that I'm like, you know
what, I'll give it another watchand I'll start just watching a

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bunch of Andre Barr movies because he's so good.
So I've been watching that and I've round out the first season
of Billions. Billions.
I haven't heard that one. Show show.
It's a show on Showtime, Paul Giamatti, Damian Lewis.
It is a phenomenal movie. It went, I believe, five years,

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five or six years. Really good if you're into like
money, a bit of espionage, a bitof backstabbing here and there.
It's a really Paul Giamatti. Not for nothing.
He's good at everything he does.There is nothing I believe this
man can do that is less than stellar.

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Everything that I've even bad movies.
It's like, well, he kind of elevates the shitty movies and
he rarely does shitty movies. Like he is spot on.
He's great in the show and so iseverybody else that's on the
show. There's even a comic on this Dan
Soder, New York comic. He's on the show, but the show's
really good. So yeah, Brilliance is a good

(02:01:26):
show. I highly recommend that.
So, And that's pretty much what I've been binge watching.
Looking forward to next year of all the shows that are coming
out, so I can binge watch that as well.
But ladies and gentlemen, that has been our show we would like
to thank Romeo for. Oh wait, he wasn't on here, was
he? Well, before we recorded, he

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gave you that nice husbandly kiss, so I had to see it.
Luckily for the audience, you didn't have to go through what I
just went through. So.
But it's love. It's all about love.
They love each other. This is what I mean.
This is what it looks like. Ladies and gentlemen, be for
those of you who are lucky to have that kind of love, consider
yourself lucky. You know the rest of us single

(02:02:11):
guys. And it's because I'm not trying
hard enough. I got to.
I got to put myself out there again.
But that's another story for another time.
So, ladies and gentlemen, that has been our broadcast.
And as Marianne always say, makegood choices.
Please do that. That's what this that's what
this world is all about. And guess if you have problems
having sex at age 50 and over, God damn it.

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Remember, it's not about me. And it's not about you either.
Enjoy. Take care, folks.
We'll see you next week.