Grammys Shammy

Time after time, we know who should win, and time after time we watch in disappointment...this time we sound off. 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Cause ain't nothing but a cheap bang baby to blow
down cheese.
So we crazy death broke.
It's the label that pays manunfaithful, so please don't try
to fade this butter.
Back to the lecture at hand.
Back to the lecture at hand,our legend at hand, and this

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story that I'm going to startoff with is one that is very
near and dear to my heart.
If you know me, you know it's acold world.
Simply put, the real is back.
The Ville is back.
The year was 2013.
And for those of y'all that arenot a J Cole fan, he came out

(00:50):
with, probably to date.
To date, that was his bestcommercial album, my favorite
album, a classic in all respects, but an album that I felt truly
still to this day encompasseswho we are as people, but more
so as spoke to who I was,anybody that know me, I am down

(01:11):
for L from a man, jesus Christ.
And here comes my man, my man,j Jermaine Cole board center.
That album.
I ran through that album somuch you couldn't tell me
nothing.
That album had crooked smile.

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You know trouble, power, trip,ville, maddock or Illmatic.
I'm sorry, what else did theyhave on it?
That album was just a straightclassic, the one with 50 cent
New York Times.
That album, to this day, stillspeaks volumes to me.
Now, as an older man about toreach this new height or this

(01:54):
new decade, shout out becauseI'm trying to be statistics Born
center At the end of the day,that's what we all are.
We try to do good, but at theend of the day, we are born and
made into sin.
Put up if you are afraid toadmit that you are spiritual,
divine beings created by themost high Jesus, yahweh.

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That's on y'all.
But I'm going to say I loveborn center, and one of the
things that the Bible says isthat the comparison is the thief
of joy.
So, if comparison is the thiefof joy, why the hell am I

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watching the Grammys?
Because in 2013, to seeMacklemore win over born center,
jermaine Cole, I was hot.
I was hot.
Y'all couldn't tell me nothingin this world.
That was the best album ever.
So what did J Cole do thefollowing year?
He waited a day, not a week,not a month a day after the

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Grammys cut off, to drop forwhat?
Forest Hills Drive.
And that would have been tough.
It would have been tough forhim to win because he would have
had to beat Kendrick Lamar.
Good kid Mass City BushHumboldt.
He was robbed in 2013.
Just sit there, play it back,but I'll be right there tonight.

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Yeah, on my way up, I'll beright there.
I'll be right there tonight.
Tlc what song came out of theTLC movie?

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Why can't I not speak right now?
But anyways, you see, we talkabout the Grammys and my disdain
for the Grammys is that we allknow who should win, but guess
what?
They never win.
Not to mention, one of myfavorite artists, scissor, did
not win.
We all know that control was amasterpiece.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
And to say that she lost.
Who did she lose to?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
It's probably Taylor Swift this year.
No, no.
If y'all could tell me who wasControl?
Oh no, it was definitely TaylorSwift.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Let me see If y'all could tell me what album?
Of the year lost to control.
I'ma tell you, at the end ofthe day, I don't give a damn.
Like I said originally,comparison is the thief of joy,
and we need to stop supportingthe Grammys.
There is a thing that we liketo do in this country 2018,

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because I remember I was incollege.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
2018 was the year that she was nominated for
Grammy of the Year.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Grammy of the Year.
You mean album of the year 2018.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
She, she, she, she, she Okay.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
I'ma look it up While you're looking for that.
My point is that, for a societywho's trying to move away from
comparison and to basically putup all these people in the
spotlight and say hey, oh, okay,it was Bruno Mars for 20K Magic

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what the fuck.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
It was a good album but like control.
I feel like control was likespecific to like a group of
people.
No, it wasn't.
You don't think so?

Speaker 1 (05:49):
No, I know, I think it was.
I think the way.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
So Snow Allegra, so I think, control was specific
Boony.
Law.
Daisy, can I talk, or are yougoing to be interrupting me the
whole time?
I'm trying to explain my point.
Go get to point.
I'm trying to get there.
Control, I feel like,personally, was for a specific
group of people and the peoplewho are a part of the recording
academy are not going to be asaffected by an album like that

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as there are about 24K Magic.
Like white people do cocaine,bruno Mars do cocaine, they
enjoy that album.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
But people have said that for years I don't really
care about the color of thecontent of their skin or
whatever, but I never said ithad anything to do with her skin
.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
I said it has something to do with, like, the
subject matter of the album.
What was control talk about?
Let's talk about it.
What does?

Speaker 1 (06:35):
it talk about.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Just a black woman going through life Like and
somebody on the recordingacademy.
There's barely any black womenon the recording academy women
for that matter as well.
They're not going to beconnected to that music.
So I feel like CISA.
I personally believe that CISAhad the best album, but I could
see why 24K Magic one butwhatever.

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So basically, what we'retalking about is the Grammys and
people snubbing, and Daisy justis anti Grammys.
He's against it.
He has boycotted the Grammysand I sat there and watched the
whole show.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I haven't watched the Grammys in a long time and the
shoe the few moments that Iwatched this year.
I regret it because it was awaste of time.
I will tell you the only reasonwhy I watch it is because you
didn't want to move into theother room.
Otherwise I would have notwatched the Grammys this year.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Yes, I was in the other room watching it.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah, oh, when you came in there because you didn't
want to move.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, the only, that's the only TV in this house
that has cable, so that's why Iwas watching it, because that's
the only room that has cable.
The only part that I did notwatch was the Billy Joe part.
Skip that, but everything elseI watched, and I will say that
for a complete show it was fair.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
I don't think even all from what I heard.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I mean fair, like it was cool, Like I mean did the
people I wanted to win win, butit was?

Speaker 1 (07:54):
it was a family.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
No, this is a one of Grammy for show and she wanted
for the right song.
But the album the album was thenumber one album of the year
and I mean I was going to runthrough the show just like talk
about some of the things and,you know, get your points, and
that was that was the last thingthat happened.
So we can either talk aboutthat now and get it out the way.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Yeah, go for it.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Or OK, what you want to do.
You want to talk about thescissor now, or let's go through
the video.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Go through this show.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
OK, so the beginning of the show, or like at least
the first thing that I give afuck about, because there was
somebody who performed I thinkit was Dua Lipa I couldn't, I
don't know yeah exactly Couldn'ttell you too much about her.
I know she has a song we'remaking this down but who don't
have a song Right.
At this point, Tracy Chapmanperformed.
This is a black queer woman andbasically what happened is like

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this country music star who'slike really popular Luke Holmes,
he got the song.
I remember the white guy wastrying to put us on a hurricane.
We was.
We was somewhere song ishurricane.
I don't, you'll have to listento it, but I can't say but me
and Yemi do have a deep countrymusic back, which is really
funny yeah.
All I have to say is we weresomewhere and some man that was

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driving us was talking about.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Luke Holmes when we were in North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
And he was like, oh yeah, you got to listen to this
song.
It was called Hurricane.
I was like, oh, this thing isactually spitting Luke Holmes.
So basically he did like acover of this Black Queer
woman's song and it went up.
So I was like, damn, likethat's crazy, that, like you
know, country music and thepeople who listen to it are
literally being moved by byBlackness, but that's, you know

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a common theme Country musicstarted in the black.
Everything originated with us.
But that was just somethingthat I thought was interested
and I wanted to point out andhave dialogue behind Something
else Taylor Swift wins album ofthe year for her fourth album
For not her fourth album, butfor the fourth time she's won
album of the year.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
I just have this to say y'all are delusional Dulu-lu
.
I really am.
I'm not buying Taylor Swift andI'm not biased.
I love, I love music, I lovemusic.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
If it was good, if I like, but also, I don't even be
in the space to listen to TaylorSwift, but it doesn't matter
the fact that it matters is inthe last year, up until up until
the Grammys.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
I have heard people say that she is a pen.
Her pen is great.
Her pen has always been reallygood.
She's always been a really goodsongwriter, but I've heard her
tour was so good.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
And she's a better performer than Beyonce.
I've never heard that, I heardthat.
I've never heard that.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
I heard that Performer.
I've never heard that this iswhat I heard.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
I don't know who you be around, but I have never
heard that this is what I heardfrom the Swifties.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Y'all are delusional.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Dulu-lu.
I've heard that America ispushing Taylor Swift on us.
You see they doing this shitwith the Grammys.
Next week they going to do itwith the Super Bowl.
Can I talk?

Speaker 1 (10:50):
Oh sorry, we just go over and talk One another, but,
like you said, you go out, youcontinue.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
That's it, that was it, that's it they pushing there
on us.
Ok, I don't like forcement,though no forcement or anything
on me.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
So I've heard she a better performer than Beyonce.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
That she is more musically talented than Lady
Gaga.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
I couldn't care about either one of them.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
I've also heard that from a creative standpoint from
her performance it rivals thatof, again, queen Yonsei.
I don't know why you guys keepputting up, putting up again.
You know we talked about onthis podcast how I had a
discussion with a Swiftie inRiley, north Carolina.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Yeah, intense conversation and.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I was like y'all not going to sway me, there's no.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I was just sitting there like and it was literally
people in there like TaylorSwift, taylor Swift and I'm just
like this is Beyonce.
This is the award show.
They said during the breaks.
People was lining up to takepictures of Beyonce.
Nobody is lining up to takepictures of Taylor Swift.
Beyonce is the celebritycelebrity.
Yes, yes Lines.
They announced Beyonce andJay-Z was coming to the awards.

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Beyonce did not say a word, shejust sat there and they making
a big deal Any time she didn'tdrop out, no, she was on tour,
she was on tour.
She came late.
She was wearing this big ass,tim Tim, what's?
They call him Dumb, dumb'sDibbado Tim's from.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
Tim Dibbado.
Yes from from very hot.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
parents Big ass cowboy hat didn't say one word
as many times as they could putBeyonce on the camera.
They put that camera on her.
It's crazy.
I have to agree with you.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
It's crazy.
Beyonce and Taylor.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Swift not at the same level.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
They're not the same level musically to me, but
either way I was, I was justdoing.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
I get what y'all trying to push on us, and, and
all I have to say is, kanye wasright.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
All I have to say is was there even.
I'm trying to remember what wasup for album of the year,
because I felt like I was likewow but I'll get to a point
later on that I have to sayabout the Grammys and music as a
state of the culture.
Now, but yeah, let's continueon.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Miley Cyrus, one for wreck, best single, something.
She won for something and Iactually enjoyed the song
Flowers.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I like the song.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's just about and we was talking about whether
it's a song about like you're ina relationship and someone
isn't, you know, like gettingyou flowers they're not like you
know, living up to, like thestandard of a relationship or if
it's just about likecelebrating yourself, and I
think it's two fold like Idefinitely said it was two fold.
Get yourself.
Get yourself flowers, the fuck.
Like I don't need nobody elsegiving me praises.

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And I think it came becauselike she was not getting the
praise that she felt like shewas deserving of, because this
was literally her first yeargetting a Grammy.
Her man cheated on her and alsothat so like she was married to
like an actor or somethingengaged whatever she was in a
relationship with somebody andhe did something he was not
supposed to do.
That you're, that you do whenyou're committed in your

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relationship, correct, and it'sjust.
But my, there was a line inthere that I was like Beach, you
better go to fuck off.
And I said I needed to hear butmy Lee Cyrus makes good music.
I never doubted she did in theclub with my J's on.
No, but even before that, it'sthe right, right, right, and I

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feel like you yelling, so Idon't know.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I'm not yelling.
Okay, maybe you're gonna tellme I'm yelling.
I'm the one with the headphonesin.
Yummy, just came from the gym,so if you're wondering why she
has more energy.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think that's what it is.
Yeah, because that's exactlywhat I drink a Celsius, because
I was about to fall asleep man,them Celsius boy, I tell you,
don't check Celsius.
I was in a fall in asleep atlike 230.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
So Chuck knows I will say that that's the one thing
I've learned since I starteddrinking Celsius, because I used
to chug them and when I chugthem I would be jumping.
I feel like I was on crackcocaine.
I'm not gonna lie to you.
But what are you looking up thelyric?

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yeah, but I mean she not really saying too much, but
I think it's just she's sayingshe not saying too much like too
lyrical or too deep, but sheliterally just saying, like I
can, I can buy myself flowers,write my name in the sand, talk
to myself for.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
I was just the parents you don't understand.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
And she was given like the song was given Tina
Turner, like we literally listento flowers and then we listen
to what's love got to do with it, and there's no got to do it.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's nuance.
So what's a heart that?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
can be broke.
I'm all of like started to cry,but then I remember that I can
buy myself flowers.
So like I don't need you forreal, I don't need you for real,
anybody for real, to be honestwith you, yeah the idea that we
need somebody is an archaicthoughts never think that I need
anybody but, it's more so likea like, a want or but also a lot

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of people struggle with beingby themselves.
It's a thing in this country,but you know I can take myself
to, I know I love being bymyself.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
You know I'm gonna be gone.
I be in this crib chilling.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
No, I do.
I do like my alone time.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I definitely do.
I could care less sometimes ifI ever see people.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
But that's another that's another so
congratulations to Miley.
You've been at girl since wewas watching you on Disney
Channel and we're not upsetabout that.
We're not upset about that.
What we're upset about is CZAnot getting her stuff.
But on the other side, she gotone, she got three, she got
three, I think, but one was theone that mattered, the album of
the year.
Which was that album?

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Good, the complete project, itdoesn't matter, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
For me, what was the name of the album?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
SOS, sos.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, that's what I said.
Was the album good?

Speaker 2 (16:31):
for me, I think that, this being her sophomore album,
five years after the firstalbum, the sophomore, what they
call it, the sophomore droughtor the sophomore drop it did not
affect her at all.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
If anything, she surpassed what people thought
she was going to do Because ofthe, the algorithm.
Now though, I guess, I mean, Ithink she just had songs.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
People like like I might kill my ex.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
I don't, I don't.
I feel like the album.
I'm gonna be very honest Peoplelike that People, like that
language.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I feel like.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
I feel like SOS that feeling very mid and I don't
really coincide to talk, senseit.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
I don't, I don't talk .

Speaker 1 (17:07):
You notice, I don't really talk bad about any of the
people I've ever dated.
I don't really coincide withnone of that.
Yeah so that album was kind ofvery mid for me.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
But I mean, she wasn't.
If anything she was.
Yeah, I don't even think withthat song she was talking about,
about her ex.
She was just saying like I wantyou to feel how I feel but the
album is mid and I'm just, I'mgoing through heartbreak Like
sure.
Then I want revenge.
That's what she was saying onthe album, but it was.
It was just like a loverelation, all of her.

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But no, I feel like the firstalbum was more about like self.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
this one was more about like and so I like love
and like relation.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
you know, I feel like yes, because she's had a the
first album was definitely moreabout like self and just like
you and being with you, becauseshe was in that time.
Yeah, I like just talking aboutlike 20 somethings and broken
clocks and garden.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
We talked about this enough, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
Oh, and we could keep going, because one thing about
me I don't play with is SZAVictoria Monet.
That's what I was going to say.
I was going to say all that tosay like, even though there was
no, there was not a highlight inthe moment that we were looking
for out of album of the year,victoria Monet won Best New
Artist.
Okay.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
I would have gave it to Coco, but I guess she's not a
new artist.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Neither one of them are, and the thing about it is,
when Victoria Monet was givingher speech, she said I've been
in the game for 12 years.
I've been in here for 15 years.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Well, no, she said when she started to get well,
she said it's been a nine yearjourney to be popular, but it
took her 12 years to finally pop, or something like that.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
But yeah, and she said 15.
I don't know where you got thenumber 12 from.
She said 15.

Speaker 1 (18:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
So I've been pursuing this goal this moment for 15
years.
Do you feel like that is likeserendipitous Not really
serendipitous, but do you feellike if you work 15 years?

Speaker 1 (19:04):
for a goal.
What does serendipity mean?

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Serendipity just means like the event was
perfectly formed to happen,gotcha.
You know like it's a fullcircle moment.
A full circle moment is whensomething is serendipitous.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I'm following you now it starts one place and
it comes to another, but it's afull circle moment.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, I hear you Great.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Okay, so do you feel like that's something that
should be like?
Oh my goodness, you know, likethis grand thing.
Or is this like y'all shouldhave been gave me this shit?
It should have took 15 yearsfor me to get this like to get
this award.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
So when you're talking about recognition from
the masses, I don't give a fuck.
How long it takes, like you,know it doesn't matter to me,
because I feel like artists,like people who are in these
industries, who are in thesespaces.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Give a fuck about.
Think about any other.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
Think about any other profession, right, in any other
profession, like, accoladesusually come with what more
money usually come with apromotion.
Music is the only time whereyour accolades comes with oh, I
have to be certified andrecognized by other people.
You know what I'm saying.
Even if we want to make thisvery simplistic, like in sports,
the awards that they give youafter the season are over are

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more consolation prize insteadof winning the championship.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Right.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
So at that point it's very simple to me.
I have, I have what a lot ofpeople don't have, and that's
attention and status, and I'mgood.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Yeah, people love measure of success and I think
that's really what it is likepeople.
How people define their ownsuccess is backwards, not
backwards, but that's literallythe thing.
What is success?
How do you measure success?
What's successful for you?
Like Victoria Monez, shouldnever feel validated by the
Grammys, but somehow some wayshe was up there.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
Yeah, like some of their crime.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Yeah, like it's an accomplishment, of course, but
for me personally, I would havebeen up there like it's about
damn time.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
It's not a, it's not an accomplishment.
To be quite honest, it's not anaccomplishment, it's validation
and I feel like you don't needvalidation.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
No, it's not validation.
No, I'm saying it's notvalidation like oh, thank you.
It's validation like oh yeah,these people think this of me.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
It's not.
What did I say?
Comparison is the thief of joy.
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
So I would keep saying but I don't think they're
comparing themselves, I justthink go ahead.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
No, you can go ahead.
Finish your point.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
No, I don't think that they're comparing
themselves to the next artist.
I really just think it'svalidation.
Okay, this is something thatI've worked so hard, for it's
not about comparing yourself.
People are recognizing it.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
But it's not about comparing yourself to the next
artist.
The Grammys is literallyrecognition for your work, right
?
Which is so dumb when you're inan artistry, when you could
literally look, yeah to acrowded stadium.
Yeah, and that's that success,50,000 people and see success,
and then that should make youcry more than oh, let me get

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this little award from anAcademy of People we don't even
know.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
America, let me deconstruct who think they know
music.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Let me deconstruct this for you real quick.
Go ahead we saying this littlepiece of gold, arguably,
arguably maybe, let's say, atmost is $1000, right, cza?
Who are some of the people thatwant Taylor Swift?
They probably made that off of10 people on their show.
So what's more impactful?
This little immaterial thingthat can't talk back to me, or a

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whole human being where Icreated a moment in their life?
So what's more impactful?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's like when you chase the money right.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
At the end of the day , what's really given back to
you, right?
Because at the end of the daythey all kind of said the same
thing.
What I'm kind of cool withspeeches Y'all could dead that
for me.
Again, I did not watch it, butfrom what I heard, everybody was
kind of doing and I hate to sayit, but everybody is in this
phase where it's really cool tobe weird for weirdness sake and

(23:01):
I'm like just be basic andregular, Like when.
Billie Eilish was talking, I waslike go sit down, shorty.
Even when Victoria Mene wastalking, I was like you don't
got to be doing this.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
And she was the only one they told to wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
And I was like for me , I'll be like, thank God, if I
was to ever win an Academy award, I'll be like, thank God, thank
my people.
Y'all have a good night.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
That's it I would do a little bit more, Like I was
thinking about it, because myfriend texted me and he was like
.
He was like you gonna be at theGrammys.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
And.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
I was like you know.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I would.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
Hey, I would love to Like that's, you know whatever,
just not for anybody else'svalidation, just for me, for
real.
If I get up there, I'm gonna belike my mom came to this
country with a toddler and adream Nigga, we made it, some
ships, it would be somethingalong those lines.

(23:58):
Like it would never be, like Ican't believe it.
No, I'm up.
I worked for this shit, likeyou know, but I mean, I think
about it a little bit different.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
So yes, I hear you, and probably this is the debate
we're probably getting into morenow, because I have a problem
with all award shows.
Yeah, I really do Like I hateall of them, like yummy was
talking about, like Grammyparties.
Don't, don't send me, don'tinvite me.
I'm not wasting my time, I'mnot putting any of my energy or
efforts.
Yes, you understand, I might bea little slighted and jaded

(24:26):
because of seeing your favoriteartists, music that moved you
but it goes deeper than thatbecause, like we, we're we're
thinking about this thing oflike recognition, and the
recognition is for me, is thatlike when you know you create
good work and you enjoy theprocess and you see the fruits
of your labor and it amounts tosuccess because all these people

(24:50):
have literally taken time outof their lives, poured their
heart and souls to theseprojects.
For us as a society to say,okay, let's measure it up to see
what blah blah blah think isbullshit to me.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
You know, but I'm saying like artists some artists
, not all of them, because thereare artists who boycott the
Grammys or who don't give aboutthe Grammys.
I think for them it's.
I feel yes, I agree with you Ifeel like the validation or the
success for artists should comefrom the way that they, in their
music, impacts people, asopposed to the accolades that

(25:25):
they get from it, becausesomebody saying somebody saying
like your music changed my lifeor inspired me or, you know,
kept me from doing somethingthat I shouldn't have did or
whatever.
I think that makes more of adifference than, like I just

(25:47):
want to Grammy.
I was nominated for a Grammy.
It's cool that you have beenappreciated, because I feel like
even Grammys, like even gettingto the point where you can win
a Grammy or be nominated for aGrammy, comes from the fans.
Like if nobody is messing withyour music, then of course
you'll never get those accolades.
But I think I think we shouldmove on from that and talk about
Burnaboy performance Whack, ooh, whack.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Oh, I was so sorry.
Sorry to your ears, I feel likeit was all over the place.
It was just all over the place,like.
I feel like yeah, let me sayone thing.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Okay, go ahead Before we get started.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Yeah, and I know some people might be hot, but if
anybody feels like I am beingtoo harsh, I need you to shut
the hell up.
Do you want to know why?
Because I am a burner, BunaStan.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Stan.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
The way his music has impacted my life is damn near
spiritual.
Mm Yemi knows this, but therewas a year where I played bank
on it every single day, mm-hmm,every single day, to the top of
my lungs.
I was singing bank on itbecause, guess what, you can't
trust your motherfuckingneighbor.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
You got to bank on yourself.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Bank on your motherfucking self.
The way I was singing that outin 2022, y'all niggas wouldn't
have seen me.
Probably why I got such a bighead on my shoulders?
Because, at the end of the day,2022, 2022.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I was about to say that what year?

Speaker 1 (27:15):
is that 2020, 2022.
Right, your boy was up but nowI say all those things Since I
saw him before last last MadisonSquare Garden for One Night in
Space, which I feel likemight've been one of his last
performances that he truly didhis little one, two Like I'm not

(27:35):
famous, but I'm famous.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Right.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
Since he's blown up into Superstardom.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Trash, trash.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
And we've seen him almost three times now.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Since then yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Live.
Yeah, terrible, and the wayhe's.
You know, let me not do thisbecause at the end of the day,
he's still a fan.
I'm still a fan.
I still love this man.
He still makes great music.
His music was very impactfulfor my life.
But for you to have Afro beatson the grand stage and it seemed

(28:08):
like I'm just listening to anR&B song or a rap song, like on
any other radio.
Why Shumbo?
But that don't even make itShumbo, like what you didn't
have other.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
You could.
Why is saying Shumbo whenyou're trying to say why?

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Keene.
I meant Keene, keene.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Keene.
What's the reason?

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Keene, no, no, outside, no, outside, huh no.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
He should have just did last last.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
So let me get my own opinion.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Let me get my own opinion.
Let me get my own opinion so wecan move on.
I just feel like it was sloppy.
I feel like it was all over theplace.
I just feel like why, sittingon top of the world Like the
drums at the beginning, but also, on the other hand, like seeing
my culture represented on themain stage for everybody to see,
I love it.
Like I literally grew up withpeople, like making fun of my

(28:56):
culture, making fun of my name,not feeling like I could be 100%
.
You know Sukurot, becausepeople didn't understand it,
like even the reason why I go bySukis, because niggas never
took the time to like learn myname for real.
To see that celebrated amazing,but that was like six seconds
of the performance.
And then you brought on Brandy,and then you brought on 21

(29:16):
Savage.
It just felt like so much andit felt like they were trying to
pander to the people in a way.
That's like look at Africans,look at Nigerians, where we're
cool and we're just like you andwhere we can integrate into
American society.
They said Afro beats and youbrought out Brandy and fucking

(29:40):
21 Savage.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
You could have even did.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Last Last.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like Last Last, literally One of the worst
performance ever.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
It was just all over the place.
It was literally just all overthe place.
You got these people inAshua'bi and then you got
Muffak's Wine Timbs.
I get the message, but youmissed the mark with Nigerians.
If you feel like you hit themark with your Americans, great,
I'm glad that you were able toshowcase that.
But Nigerians that I've seen,we was confused and we literally

(30:08):
have not talked about a sensebecause it did nothing for us.
One thing I do want to say isthat Tyler, tyler, tyler, one
for Afro beat song of the yearTho-A-Way For water, yeah,
tho-a-way.
What about that is Afro beatsTho-A-Way, tho-a-way, tiktok.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
You see how they want to gentrify our music.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's the TikTok effect.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
And hence why I said I hate to say it, hence why I
said SOS was not, it was mid.
Because if it wasn't for TikTok, would it have been that good
Cause?
You know, you had everybodysinging snooze.
I can.
You know all the TikToks I'veseen.
And then you know they had awhat was it?
Shirt?
Everybody was doing the partwhere.
Give me all of you, give me allof you.

(30:52):
Y'all know the song.
I don't Y'all know all the song?

Speaker 2 (30:55):
But TikTok.
But in my head it's the TikTokeffect.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
Good for her girl, but show, I mean who See how
they and I'm not even mad.
I'm very happy that we aregetting the exposure.
Like, I'm glad that like youguys are understanding who
Thames is, wizkid, who thesepeople are.
Wizkid has been around sincethe early 2000s, so it's crazy
that you're on, we aren'tforeign.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Like yeah, we are foreign, but we're not foreign
Like we're not aliens, we're not, you know, like we are
literally people just like y'alland it's music Like Felicuti
and Afro beats is in everythingand it's something that should
be celebrated, and Africanpeople are something that should
be celebrated and not just likeothered.

(31:39):
So it's great to see, but water.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Water.
Make me sweat.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Make me hot, so so generic, make me lose my breath.
You know what you need to dosit down and drink some water.
Anyway, how do you say this?
Underwhelmed, underwhelmed.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Underwhelmed.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Y'all didn't even try for real.
Like did y'all even try?
Like last year when last lastdidn't win, I was, we were hurt
again.
You see my point?
Yeah, I need to stop.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
That's why I say these things.
Y'all think I'm big and y'allmight be like, damn, did you go?
Take it easy?
No, I'm okay, because I'm ofthe product of I used to.
I used to get up for the BETAwards, sit on the sit in the
BET Awards all three of that andthey used to put on a show.
Not only did I not care who won, but it was a wonderful time.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
It was just a great time to be black.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
That's the one thing I will tell y'all.
I'm mad that we sold BET tosome white dude and now you
wonder why the production for BThas gone worse.
But Watching BT and the SoulTrain Awards you could tell,
besides the awards, the actuallike impact that it made on the

(32:57):
community, because peopleactually took time to actually
have these wonderful thought-outperformances.
Like it was so fun Seeing.
Every time you see a tribute,that was so fun to me, like I
still remember very vividly,like the Michael Jackson tribute
where Chris Brown was out hereDancing his ass off and then he
ends up just balling and crying.
Or we had the tribute of oh,who was it?

(33:21):
Patty?
Oh, no, glad it's night, gladit's night and everybody came
out.
I was like this.
Or we had I mean, I could go onfor days and days.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
We all watch the BET Awards.
Why you have to like you ain'twatch the BET Awards.
You know what happened, butwhat I'm saying is that like?
We've lost, we lost, we losingrecipes y'all.
We don't even know when to beto what they just happened.
They just come out, they on TVand you know, and the experience
, is trash Of Americacommercializing experiences.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
The reason why we at this place, why everybody feel
like, oh, I want all theseexperience and there, all these
places are curating these verycookie cutter experiences and
they're leading no impact, isbecause nobody wants to put
thought, nobody wants to thinkabout what it takes to curate a
really good event.
And you see that with the damnawards it's.
They probably took four monthsto plan it out.

(34:10):
Four months to plan it out.
They probably picked a venue.
I'm tell you because I'm tellyou right now because I've heard
it these big-ass venues,because me and yummy, where I,
afro tech, and they was talkingabout how they took six months
to plan it.
I'm not saying anything, afrotech.
I'm not saying that it wasn't agreat event, but I'm saying is
that they don't put as much timeas y'all think they do.
Why?
Because you have to paysomebody for that.

(34:30):
So if you got to pay somebodyalmost a year time for an event
that might be one night.
You're not gonna do that.
You're gonna try to consolidatethat into a finite amount of
time and we see in thebyproducts of that.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Yeah.
So I mean just let's let'scelebrate ourselves, but also
the BT award.
Like BT Instagram.
Like put out a post talkingabout come where you're
celebrated, y'all be givingwhite people awards.
So like y'all be nominatedJustin Bieber and Sam Smith and
Bruno Mars for awards.
So please don't act like youhave ever been really for black
people.
Bt is not even black owned.
So, anyway, one thing I didwant to talk about was like Jay

(35:04):
Z won like the Dr Dre award, andlike in his speech he was
basically talking about how it'sreally fucked the Grammys.
But you showed up to theGrammys and accepted an award
and he was just like that though.
Yeah.
And then the biggest part ofhis speech is that he said
Beyonce has the most Grammysever and has never won album of

(35:25):
the year.
What's in the world?
Hey, we bad at somebody.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
We bad at a black man standing up for his black queen
.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
No, no, no, we're not mad at that.
No, no, no no.
I rock with you on that oneHope stand up for show.
We're not mad at that.
What we mad at is the fact thatBeyonce, beyonce, beyonce has
never won album of the year, andshe didn't even win it for.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Renaissance.
Can we please say this rightnow?
How the hell, did you not winalbum of the year for
Renaissance you?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
know white people, y'all love gay people.
White people love gay people,which is partially the reason
why I think they gave VictoriaMoneta the award, because she
went on her press run and saidthat she was bisexual.
White people, y'all love gaypeople, but you only love gay
people that are white, just likey'all.
Y'all don't like blackqueerness, because if you did,

(36:13):
renaissance woulda won, ain't noway Renaissance should not have
won, and we can wrap thisepisode up right now Ain't no
way I did.
You and I we're not even Beyoncefans and we were swindled by
the community to go see Beyoncein New Orleans.
Do you know?
That was supposed to be herlast show, so that means that we
watched all of our friendsPractically everybody in our

(36:36):
community go see Beyonce, wherethey saw Beyonce and we said you
know what?
We gotta do it.
Literally, this was a moment,this was a moment in a movement
Beyonce, beyonce, beyonce.
Not Luther Van Dros, butBeyonce shoulda won album of the
year.
And you telling me, my wife, asJay-Z, has 32 to 34 I can't

(37:00):
remember what the number was,the actual number was, but y'all
don't want to give me the albumof the year ever.
Fuck y'all.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Try to tell y'all man , this shit don't make no sense.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
That make no sense.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Like you said, and when we saw Beyonce and
Renaissance, the experience ofRenaissance was a 10.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Okay, I'll tell you that, the experience of
Renaissance- Okay, because I'mabout to say we gave it a
different rating, and that'sbecause we're not Beyonce fans.
I gave it a different ratingbecause we walked through.
We had a great time.
We had a great time On thefloor.
Yeah, we was on the floor.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Dancing.
I won't break my soul, yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
No, our section was not muted, but it's okay.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
But anyways, we had a wonderful time.
You know what I've said.
I had the little heated fan,whatever.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Doing all the dumb stuff, enjoying the we had a
great time, but.
Jumbo, jumbo.
How does that not win album ofthe year?

Speaker 2 (37:55):
I'm sorry that's lemonade.
They said shoulda won album ofthe year, self-entitled.
Beyonce dropped an albumrandomly, like it was like
midnight or some shit like that.
I didn't do no promo, didn't donothing.
Visuals.
The other album, lemonade, wasall visuals.
Every song had a video.
I dropped the album.

(38:15):
I didn't do no promo.
Number one All visuals.
Number one Renaissance.
Sold out dates World tour,american tour.
People over here in I gotdressed up for the show.
We caught a flight on a.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Tuesday we caught a flight on a Tuesday, but a hotel
uh-huh and then we enjoyed NewOrleans for one, maybe two days,
not even 50 hours.
We was not, we were not evenbaby.
Maybe 36 hours.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Yeah, we got there like on a Tuesday, like Early
afternoon.
The concert was on Wednesday.
We were at.
We were gone Thursday by theend of the workday.
So yeah, we was.
We literally just went to seeBeyonce.
I don't know no other artistthat's doing that for nobody.
I'm not, I'm not.

(39:10):
There's no other artist in theworld that will have people
traveling the way we did, andAlso, people was going to one
show, then they was going toanother.
I had to reschedule notreschedule, but I had to Change
my birthday plans around Beyoncebecause Beyonce decided that
she wanted to come to Chicago mybirthday weekend and I knew not

(39:33):
one of my friends was not gonnago see Beyonce just because it
was my birthday and I was okaywith that.
I was okay with that.
I said you know what?
Y'all go see Beyonce, I'm gonnago do my thing.
Y'all go see Beyonce, I'm gonnado my thing.
And I was not even mad aboutthem.
I was not even mad about that.
But this is not the Beyonceepisode, this is the Grammys
episode.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
So what's next?

Speaker 2 (39:57):
SZA one best R&B song .
She says you don't reallyunderstand.
I came a really far away, sinceit was one of those people that
was writing for folks too.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
SZA has been writing for folks for a long time.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
SZA been writing for folks.
Mooney Long been writing forfolks.
Victoria Monet was Ryan forfolks and I'm so glad that
Victoria Monet got her award.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Okay, let me ask you this for very honesty and very
candidly Was Victoria Monet'salbum worthy of winning a Grammy
?

Speaker 2 (40:21):
That song was on my mama.
I didn't listen to the album, Idon't, I only listen to the
song.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
You did not listen to the album.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
But I'm not disagreeing with.
I'm not.
I'm not arguing, sorry, I'm ona, I'm arguing, sza.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Okay, so that's fine.
You're not arguing about thealbum, you're not arguing about
the song, but do you think itwas a like I, I'm I Hate to say
this, okay, because it's gonnasound like oh, we always do this
with black people, but I'mgonna come from this standpoint.
I'm gonna come from thisstandpoint.

(40:56):
We had Arguably people like,say, whitney Houston, tony
Braxton, babyface, beyonce, ladyGaga.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
Get to the point, lady antebellum.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
I know I want to give him a full picture.
Whiz kid burner boy.
I.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Don't think whiskey has any Grammys.

Speaker 1 (41:24):
That's very upsetting .

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, at least for essence.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, no.
I know they got one for essence.

Speaker 1 (41:30):
So let me look, let me confirm, let me go from where
y'all so well, doing yourtalking so I'm gonna keep doing
you and I'm gonna keep TaylorSwift's right.
The reason why I'm saying thisis because no, he got it for
brown skin girl.
The reason why I'm saying thisis that we gave somebody an
album or a Grammy, for I putthat on my mama.

(41:53):
I'm a hood, I love fly, I lookgood.
I'm not saying it's a bad song.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Yeah, they want the best global music performance.
Essence.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
I'm not saying that it's a bad song and I honestly
honestly, I'm very happy thatVictoria Monet won a Grammy.
They were just nominated in awin.
So when we look at the caliberand quality of our music over
the years, we have to announceit, we have to address it.
Music is really becoming very,very Digestible and diluted and
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
Yeah you know when I was a hard hill.
Yeah, when I was at Afro Tech, Iwent to a session and it was a
session that was like All right,I made this story quick.
It was a session with likefeels and they're just talking
about music and the moderatordon't know his name, but he was
just saying like music now haslike no substance and he feels

(42:48):
like not there's, there's a lackof substance, not that there's
no substance, but there's a lackof substance in music now and
because of that, we have seenthe rise in Afro beats, because
Afro beats is music that peoplefeel like has substance.
I'm like it's not really a lotof storytelling, it's just
different and it's not like theshit that people have been
hearing, because I sell a cookie.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
It's not.
It's not that, john.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
No, I mean there's, no, there's.
I mean, like the subject, thesubject matter in most songs Are
the same as in like Americansongs, but it's just a different
sound and I feel like thesubstance is in the production.
Yeah the substance is in likethe feel right.
It's different, it's not likethis, but he's saying, like this
music is becoming so saturatedwith people who aren't, you know
, actual artists, who aren'tactually trying to perfect their

(43:31):
craft, that it's.
It's moving people in thedirection of something new,
which is Afro beats, in which iswhy people are gravitating
towards that, only that that washis take.
I don't know if it's true ornot.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
I'm saying about reggaeton people listen.
You know I took some espagnolback in the day, but I say all
those things because I'm notgetting mad at who's winning the
Grammys, but I am getting madat the cow as an R&B thug and I
listen to all.
Think about this y'all, I toldy'all about me and yummy's yeah,

(44:02):
me, and yummy's Me and yummy'scountry music bag.
So there's this artist name,there's this artist name I Don't
know, it's that sort of beBreland, breland, right, and he
was on this talk show so I'llmake this really short, short
and sweet, but he was talkingabout the roots of Country music
and why he does country musicis because he's trying to

(44:23):
reinvigorate the black artiststo jump into Country music.
So I say those things becausethink about this one of my
favorite country music song,rascal flags.
Think about the imagery of thisForever, real, long lost.
So Roll brought me back to whereyou are, the lovers that broke

(44:47):
my heart.
They were like northern stars,and bring me all my way Into
your this much I know that.
God bless the lonely roll.
Oh, look, that's fire.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
Was that country a gospel?

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Actually, you might be able to get you a contract
with that.
I was, I was in, I was intothat.
You see what I'm saying,starstress, I was quiet.
You see what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's the.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
It's the idea that music means something.
Right, there's a lot of songsthat we talk about mumble rap,
but when mumble rap startsinvading things that are
supposed to hit and touch yoursoul.
Like Victoria Monet is an R&Bsinger, I don't care if it's
alternative, but like that's her, where's the rhythm and blues

(45:59):
shorty?
Like what's where's the whereis the storytelling, like that's
what I'm talking about.
I put that on my mama.
Look, we all know that.
You a celebrity.
Of course you look good.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no the album, the song she
said was an ode to Her daughter,because she just had her
daughter and she was goingthrough postpartum.
And it's really just like whenit's when they say you get it
from your mama, I must say youfuck right, buddy.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
I.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Don't know the words, for I was doing that.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I hear that, but also like that's a weird ass need to
say when you have a child, likeyeah, you got your body for me,
but Side track.
What I'm trying to say is thatyou notice how you have to tell
the story to the song.
You feel like you shouldalready know it back in the day,
they would drop the song and itwould just leave it for you to
interpret and then you wouldhave the music video.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
The music video went along.
Yes, yes, but that this nowmusic videos.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
But now, this day and age, what do they do?
They drop the song and then,when you are interviewed, they
add they have to literally askyou because we don't know.
You ain't such it.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
We don't know what you talking about.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
I'm trying to say friends, friends, don't hate me
for my take, but think about it,digested, really.
Think about the music youlisten to.
That's why I tell you I'm R&Bthug, but in this R&B thug cuz I
know y'all been listening tothis motherfucking 7th playlist
and I shut.
I salute y'all for that.
Okay, I really salute y'all,but notice who I'm putting on
these lists.
These are story tellers, one ofthe one of my favorite songs

(47:34):
that I put out there.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Tracy Chapman.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
That's why she got that Grammy for a fast car that
one of my favorite songs that Iput on there today is called
small talk and she started offnormally.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
I Take my time, so we're.
So, basically, what you'resaying is that we're, we're,
we're missing story tellers.
Yes, and you know, one thing Iwill say is so we'll make sure
that we listen to the song smalltalk so we can hear the way

(48:06):
it's supposed to.
I will say this I See you, cocoJones, snooze SZA.
That's that song writing 100%that's real R&B.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
She literally said I can't lose.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah.
Not even that before that Itested five for you.
I do that three, four timesagain.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
I hope you never have to go through that, though.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Yeah, but she's saying I love you so much that I
will do whatever it is for you.

Speaker 1 (48:36):
But we don't want to put our women.
I will hide your bodies.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
I've been scheming, hide your bodies Long as you
thinking about me ain't noproblem.
I don't got nobody just withyou right now.
So the truth I look betterunder you.
This is like.
I don't want old-school lovesongs and that's what they use.
Niggas used to be bagging andbitches used to say I will come
in, I will come and kill anybodyfor you.
Yes, I can love you better thanshe can look.

(48:59):
This is what people used toactually Sitting here why you
don't love me okay.
So yeah, you're right and then Isee you.
What is she saying?
I see you Like real love shitand that's why this is the music

(49:24):
that people are fucking with.
I'm not saying all my mama onmy hood, it's not a good song.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
That's why we see it all braille Friday.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Okay screaming.
All I'm saying is that she saidwhat a coco Jones say.
She said Some some way, somehow.
Like we keep running into eachother, like I deleted every
message that you send, try toget out of it and I just keep
that's what I hate, that don'ty'all hate that.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
That one person that you know you probably shouldn't
be with in this space of time,but you keep running into them.
You keep on trying to live yourlife because you know why.
Y'all part of ways, but somehowy'all keep still being around
each other.
Is I need you?
Okay, I need to stop something.

(50:09):
The way you okay, just give me,but anyways.
But that's pretty much all Ihad to say about the Grammys,
like fuck y'all, but thank youfor getting some parts right.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
I really don't want to talk about anything else,
because nothing else was reallyimportant.
Billy Eilish I don't know she'scool to me, but her hair just
always looks oily, I'm justtired of people being weird.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
For weird this sake.
I'm gonna keep saying it cuz.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Personality, but her parents was.
Her parents were at the showand they look like normal white
people to do, and her brothertoo.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
You rock with it, but at the end of the day let's
just be okay with beingourselves.
We ain't got to be unique.
Yeah, some people are naturallyunique.

Speaker 2 (50:48):
Yeah, let them be let them be unique.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
But those of us, we could be regular degular, that's
it.
Okay, so what is the?

Speaker 2 (50:57):
Well you know, thank you so much for listening to us
talk about the Grammys and ratand rave about the Grammys.
Really, at the end, the daygifts is a her flowers give um.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
I've been giving them .
That's the thing.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
Don't give it to them at the Grammys.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
You got to give it to every time flowers, every time
somebody asked me, they saywhat's cuz I have?
I'm a really, I'm a reallyintentional person.
My song of the decade and I andthis is the crazy thing I've
already started looking for mysong of the decade for 30.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Oh wow, you're maybe like a playlist, not just one
song, but my song for my 20s WasGod bless him.
Yeah, that's it.
That's it, Prince.
We agree, we better ask friends.
I did later every message thatyou said Try and move on with
somebody less like you.
Don't know how we ended up inthe red.
Feel myself reading yourcomments again.

(51:42):
Hey, then we end up in eachother's heads.
It all makes sense because yougot to feel it.
That's all that I need in mylife, babe.
We'll have to review that,because that's one of them ones
I'm a big fan of.
The old school R&B song.
We have tried and failed andtried and failed, but I can't

(52:03):
let you go.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
And you see why I circling the box is circling the
Shits being about you Shits.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
That's all I was saying.
And she said I literallydistanced myself from you, I
deleted everything, but somehowI just ended up back with you.
But we're moving on.
Yes, so let's move on to thingsI send Deji on Twitter, and
it's actually related to theGrammys.
It's actually related to theGrammys Things I send Deji on
Twitter.
The tweet is this Deji.
What's up it says you know whatsong really deserved a Grammy?

Speaker 1 (52:37):
What song?

Speaker 2 (52:38):
Closer.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Closer by whom?

Speaker 2 (52:42):
Oh, Locks Day, oh yeah, I want you every night and
every day.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
That's how crazy the year's been.
No wait, I thought you meant oh, closer, or yeah.
I think you know Shaw.

Speaker 2 (52:57):
It's just like an anti-M, it's an anti-Gramm.
Yeah, whatever you say.
Yeah, every part of Grammys.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
Yeah, no, that went crazy on TikTok, so that was
very that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
If it was not going to be water, it should have been
that, and that's actuallyAfrobeat skinny.
But it was all Nigerians in theSouth African and the South
Africans one.
So I feel like Closer was agood song because white people
were singing that song.
You could play that in the clubnow.
I mean, they're going to go upfor water too.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
No, that song was fire.
It's Afrobeat, afrobeat.
I was playing it.
How does it go?
I was playing it so much Damn.
I haven't played that in a longtime.
But yeah, that definitelyshould have won.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
You can still play that now.
People are still going to go up.
You can play water too, butwater is going to get everybody
to move.
Closer is I feel like they bothgoing to get everybody to move,
but I just feel like Closer was.
That's not Closer, closer wedon't underwrite that song.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I want to love you every day.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Closer.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Okay, what is?
We just did get ourintellectual.
What's the next one?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
No, we didn't just do get our intellectual.
That was things I said in DJ onTwitter.
The get our intellectualquestion of the day is this If
you have a side hustle, is itokay for people to know A side
hustle that you're trying topush?
Is it okay for you to have anine to five and is it okay for
people to know you have a nineto five?

Speaker 1 (54:28):
So, to cover this conversation, we're not going to
go too much into it, but justsay people know you for one
thing, and because they know youfor one thing, you don't want
people to know you for anotherthing.
Yeah, so what I would saysimply is yes, because, as a man
in society, I'm speaking from aman's perspective.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
Okay, I was about to say because I didn't say
anything about you Speaking froma man, specifically speaking
from a black man's perspective.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I don't run, I'm not from the cloth where people
provide for us, so I always feellike the need to make sure that
I can provide for whoever isgoing to be in my life, but even
more so that you just got to besure you're able to stand on
your own two feet.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
You know what?

Speaker 1 (55:10):
I'm saying I think that's a very important skill
that more and more people arelosing, Because you know like if
you were, if you a stripper.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
Do you want the people at the strip club to know
that you a teacher?
Probably not.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Does it matter?

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Well, I feel like this one lady was is a teacher
and she got fired or let go orsomething like that because she
had only fans.
But that's that's that I wassued because there's nothing in
my contract that says no, shegot in trouble because she was
promoting the only fans in thein the, or?
No, no, it was a mom who whowas getting, who was not allowed
to come and pick up her kidsfrom school anymore because she

(55:46):
was promoting her only fans inthe carpool pickup lane, or
something like that, or in ourcar or something like that,
somehow some way.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Okay, so that's different right, Is it though?

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Yes, because at the end, if you live a double life,
can people know that you got aregular?

Speaker 1 (55:58):
life, because in America we have not gone to the
point where we have basicallyuntabooed like sex, yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
So until we get to that point, then which we
probably never will right, eventhough like.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
So everything is sexualized?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Oh my God so many people have only fans but no,
and everything is sexualized inthis country.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
So the reason why I'm saying those things is that I
think, as long as you got to dowhat you got to do to survive in
this country, one of the mainthings that people forget is
that nobody's going to pay mybills.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Okay, and I'm not, and nobody's gonna play somebody
else's bills Exactly, unlessthey get some naughty.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
So if that's the case , I'm not paying nobody's bills.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
If that is the case, regardless of what you do for me
, If that is the case, then Icould probably pay you and I got
to make these dollars.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
I don't even pay my own bills.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Why don't we be with somebody else's bills?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
I know I told you how I'm going to be once we get off
the job Struggling.
No, my phone will not be payingme.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
We'll have to talk about that a different day.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
But you know how.
About you?
That's the real question.
How do you feel about it?

Speaker 2 (57:01):
I feel like what you hiding for, like it's okay to
have a nine.
I know like a couple of peoplewho are like aspiring rappers or
trying to push you know theirrap career, who also have nine
to five.
Like how you gonna pay for,like where do you think people
are thinking your money comesfrom?
Like you can't be like I don'tthink it gives you more street
credit to be like a scammer orto have people believe that
you're a scammer and you'rerapping at the same time, or you

(57:23):
just make your money fromrapping, because we know for a
fact that if you're not likeactually getting booked every
weekend for shows, you'reprobably not making too much
money off of being a rapper.
Like it's okay to have a nineto five and be pursuing your,
your side hustle, like we areand fully you know.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Yeah, because I definitely when I first started
but when I heard that someonelike not wanting people to know
that they have a whole job andthey are pursuing other
endeavors, I laughed becausethat shit was funny to me and I
thought, it'd be a great intointellectual get a question but
I get it, though, because I usedto think about it the opposite
way, because when I was firststarted working and I first

(58:01):
started doing podcasting, I waslike, yeah, I don't want y'all
motherfuckers to fire me becausey'all might try to go back to
HR and say some shit if I eversaid something about my job and
that's my thing.
So yeah, I will always say that.
But I think you got to be ableto celebrate yourself,

(58:23):
especially if you know youmaking money and you're doing a
positive thing.
You know yummy is a DJ.
I have my many side hustles.
You know I'm back in thestreets cleaning shoes, but it's
all product of who we are.
At the end of the day, you gotto figure out a way to hustle in
this country and ain't no shamein your game.
That's what.
What's the movie called withLisa, whatever name is Lisa Ray?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Yes, players.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah, sometimes I'd be good at this.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
You did that one, you did that one.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
She said don't let this money make you make the
money.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Don't let it make you make the money.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Don't let this money make you amen, and that's it.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
And on that note, and that's it.
Thank you so much for listeningto this episode.
Let a make make the memories,make the the impact.
Don't let the impact make you,don't let.
Don't let the Grammy make you,because you did.
You did what you needed to doalready before the Grammy.
And that's for any celebritylistening to this, because, of

(59:28):
course, yes, they listen tonothing but a G thing podcast,
and so do you.
And if you have not found us onother social media, I'm a
dropper right now.
We are nothing capital B,capital A, capital G, capital T.
On Instagram and Twitter, weare nothing, spelled all the way
out.
We are nothing but a G capital,a capital G thing, spelled all

(59:48):
the way out.
On Tic Tac, I'm sorry, nothingbut a G thing, the regular way
we spell it was taken, taken,took, him taken was have been
took.
I am Sukie G's on socialmedia's s UK IG, double easy,
because I make everything that Ido or try look twice as easy,
and that's on Instagram andTwitter.
On Tic Toc, I am DJ Sukie G's,so the same thing, but just a DJ

(01:00:11):
in front of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Yeah.
So what yummy forgot to tellyou is that, oh yeah, we added a
Tic Toc, so go follow that page.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
That's what I just said, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Well, you know, look at me.
Not listening to me, so you'rea younger sibling Shumbull, you
could follow me.
Go off, sis.
You could follow me everywhereat the same thing, which is the
R and B or no, I'm sorry, r andB and that's R and B.

(01:00:40):
Thug underscore D, e, j, I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
That's the last last episode you said your name was
damn Daisy with us because thegreen tea shot episode, whatever
.
But just yeah, it's.
It's the R and B thug,underscore Daisy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Yes, it's the R B.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Thank you so much for listening.
And fuck the Grammys, beyonce.
Had the album of the year been,had that and if you get me to
come out.
Kanye was right.
Exactly and what you don't beashamed of having a job with him
, and comparison is a thief ofjoy.
I'd rather have a nigga withmoney than a broke nigga trying

(01:01:17):
to sell a job.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Yeah, we ain't mad at you.
Get your dollars, folk.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
I'm going to drop a 16 to.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
to be quite honest with you, I would love to drop a
16, but I also would just loveto sing a quick eight.
You know what I'm saying?
Give me with some auto tune,but I'm gonna shut the hell up.
But it's been lovely and y'allkeep it easy.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Beyonce, I'll be right back.
Thanks for watching.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Thanks for watching.