Grimy Behavior

I am who I am and who I am not, I will never be. And who I am is a lazy a** ni***
-Deji 

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Because ain't nothing but a cheap bang baby To blow
them G's.
So we crazy Death grown againstthe label that pays man
Unfaithful.
So please don't try to fakethis.
But I'm back to the lecture athand.
Back to the lecture, or legend,at hand.
For those of you who have beenlistening or just been a part of

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the life of Daegi, y'all knowone thing about me, and now one
thing is that I will be myselfin all spaces.
Now some of y'all have knownthat to be a funny, charismatic
outgoing guy.
But there's also the flip sidewhere there is a little bit of

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assholishness, a little bit of ajerk face and, honestly, just
completely obtuse of my ownchoosing.
I'm not saying I'm perfect.
I'm a human being, I'mimperfectly perfect.
But we go through our trialsand tribulations and in today's
episode I'm a breakdown orscenario in my life, fairly

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recent, where I've been thisperson, been that person, but
now mugs want to come at me.
So for those of y'all who have,say, a favorite chore or
there's always something in yourown house when you live with
your people or when you livewith others you have always been

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designated to do, regardless.
I am one of those people whereI have made a stance early on in
my childhood that I would notwash dishes.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
What.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yes, as a younging I said, I never got the point of
washing dishes.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
I personally.
There's dirty dishes.
That's the point.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
That doesn't mean anything to me and you use them.
That does not mean anything tome.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
So I'm very confused on this, because that does not
mean so.
At a young age, you decidedthat you weren't going to wash
dishes Because I did not see thevalidity.
And washing dirty dishes thatyou have.
You have dirtied.
The validity is there, like Isaid.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
What the hell?
There are certain things as anindividual, you just say I'm not
going to do, it's not for me.
It was never a sexist thing, itwas never.
None of that.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
It has to be, it has to be, it has to be rooted in
that.
No, it does not, it's a lot ofchores how.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Because I do the laundry.
It's your clothes I do.
I used to do everybody'slaundry, remember?
No, I don't remember.
I literally used to be in thebasement sorting through clothes
, with mom doing laundry,folding laundry, please, please.
I used to clean, I used toclean the bathroom, I used to
mop.
You used the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
So I used to be you used the bathroom.
I used to be you supposed toclean it.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I used to be very domesticated in this house for
shared spaces.
Yeah, he knows this.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
But you don't want to wash the dishes that you use.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
But for me, the one thing I could never get.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
The kitchen is the most shared space.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
I could never wrap my head around the kitchen is the
most shared space.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's the washing of dishes.
And not only is it the mostshared space, it's the most used
space by everybody in the house.
Everybody goes into it.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
You saying all this here, all this wahala, is it
wahala?
I say that because you knowit's Ramadan season.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
And typically people doing Ramadan, they don't
necessarily have the bandwidthto deal with bullshit.
Yeah, yours, especially,specifically yours, my mama.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Oh no, Specifically your bullshit Specifically my
mama.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
As y'all heard, I haven't really done.
I haven't literally washed thedishes consistently after I've
used in a plate Arguablyprobably since I was 9 or 10.
Wow, I always leave it thereand you know what Magically you
get washed.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
I don't know if it's, it's not magic, it's somebody
else doing it for you, it'smagic.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
It's crazy when y'all just decide to leave in and see
how far they give you an itch,you take a mile.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Now purpose None of that sounds like a responsible
thing to do.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
Now I preface that, Like I said, it's Ramadan, my
mama is fasting and I knowduring these times she's a
little bit more testy.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Irritable.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Irritable.
Her balance is already not thathigh, so during a point where
she can't eat while the sun isup, it's going to be through the
roof.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
And instead of being somebody who compromises or
realizes all the things thatyou're saying, instead of making
their life a little bit easier,what do you do?
I don't do nothing but live mylife.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
So I say that because the other day my mom came home
I wasn't even out here, I was atthe gym came back from the gym,
Me and you are going to haveproblems.
I said, mom, I just got back.
Why did you wish you yelled atme before?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Well, first of all, let me tell you what?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Because you weren't home.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
I was home, I was in my room getting ready to go out
and my mom the first thing shedoes when she comes in the house
is she starts calling my dad.
She's like come look at this,come look at this Coolant, like
he's supposed to do somethingand they can know he can't say
shit to us.
Are we waiting for you to sayone thing to us?
Because we got words for you.
You can open your mouth and sayanything.

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I bet you I'll shut you downand make you look stupid crazy.
So she calling him, I'm likewhat the nigga going to do.
Then she start calling me fromupstairs.
Mind you, I'm in my roomgetting ready, so I didn't have
no shirt on and I can't walkaround the house naked or with
no shirt on.
I can do no pants, but I can'tdo no shirt.
So I was just like in my roomgetting ready.

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She's yelling my name and Ialready know what she's upset
about, because I came downstairsearlier, after Deji left,
before my parents came home, andI saw that there was dishes in
the sink and I knew it was goingto be a problem.
But one thing about me I'm notclean up after.
No grown ass man, I'm not cleanup after Deji, I'm not clean up
after my father.
I'm not doing that.
I'm not clean up after no grownass man, especially when they
are fully capable of cleaning upthemselves.

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So I just looked at the dishesand I went to my room.
I already knew it was going tobe some shit.
She started yelling my name.
Then she come into my roomtalking about some.
You didn't hear me calling you.
I responded yes, I'm not goingto run downstairs.
So you can ask me who left thesedishes in the sink?
Well, you know who left thedishes in the sink?
It's no, it's no, it's no.
You know confusion, quorums orwhatever the fuck the people say

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.
You know that Deji cooked andleft the dishes in the sink
Because anytime I cook, I washthe dishes after myself, because
I just, you know that's whatyou do, that's just what
responsible people do, peoplewith reason.
That's what they do, becausewhen you use dishes, you should
wash them.
But this is his story to tell.
So I'm just letting him youknow I'm just interjecting with
what happened before Deji camehome so he can continue with

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where he left off.
So yeah, she's like.
I'm like girl.
You're doing all this yellingabout there being dishes in the
sink, asking who left the disheswhen you knew it was Deji.
She like then she walked awayBecause I'm like, yeah, you need
to save that.
She's like I told you not totell me that I'm yelling.
I'm like no girl, if you'reyelling, I'm going to tell you
you're yelling.
It's not disrespectful, it'sjust, it's just reason, because
you're yelling about somethingwe all know that was Deji's

(07:15):
fault 100%.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
So I walk in the door .
You know I had a really hardworkout.
I'm tired.
It's been a long week Exhausted.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
From working out, not from not not eating, because
you're doing your religiouspurposes For a work week.
Ok, I'm just saying so I comein.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
my mom said me and you are going to have problems
yelling at the top.
I said, hold on, I might justwalk through the door, come out
of there.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Hello, how are you?
How's your day?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
And I said how are you doing Whatever?
And I said why are you yelling?
I just got in the house.
She said you're not going tolike me, me and you, we go to
fights.
I said I was like calm down.
I said calm down.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
Ain't nobody trying to fight you.
I think that's the greatequalizer, like now that we're
older and we're still at ourparents' houses.
I think the great equalizer isthat we know they're not about
to like, they're not about Imean, they might try to put
their hands on us now, butthey're really too old for that
and honestly, so are we.
Yeah, so then, if she?
Because one time my dad triedto threaten me and said that he
was going to slap me and I saidI wish you would.

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I'll slap the shit out you back.
I just want to just give me areason we could be in this bitch
boxed for real.
I wasn't serious he wasn'tserious, though I didn't even
sound confident coming out ofhis mouth.
But like, if you was, I was too.
So then that happened.

Speaker 1 (08:26):
We could get to rumbling.
So that happened and she was,we was going and she was like me
they're going to have to callthe police.
I called the police on you.
I said here call 911.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's what I said.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
She's a bad.
I called 911 because you don'tcall the police or your son she
said oh you know, she You're notsupposed to be living here,
yeah.
And then you say you don't wantto live here.
I said, mom, what would you doif I wasn't here?
So my problem is I be knowing Ido stuff wrong and instead of
Doing the right thing.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
Instead of just doing the right thing, you try to
make it Somebody.
Just try to gaslight people.
I don't gaslight.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
I ease over because I'd be like you know we still
good.
I said we still alive.
You all right, I love you too.
You know I do that.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
And then my mom don't like that because she would be
like she wants him to be upsetby the things that she's saying
she knows that's her, like shedoesn't have too many ways to
attack because she can'tphysically beat him up, but with
her words she can strike.
And if someone is literallylaughing at you or they're just
making a joke out of thesituation, correct and that was
my problem yeah.
But, like I said, your problemis that you left the dishes in

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the sink.
And now you're trying to reasonthat when you were a kid, you
just decided at the young agethat you were never just going
to wash dishes again.
Because did I wash dishes whenI was a young?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
child.
No, exactly so I've nothingthat's changed.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
If it did, if it started it out of lessons and it
continues, that doesn't make itright and I even tell this
nigga, this nigga would, just,by this justification, this
nigga will say when he was younghe was killing rodents and now
he is serial killer, it's OKbecause they allowed him to do
it when he was younger.
That's your justification.
It's the same situation, it'sjust different circumstances.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
So why have I tell you all this story?
Because today's episode isabout being unapologetically
yourself.
We had a scenario in the lastrecent, or actually in the last
week a national championshipgame with Caitlin Clark and
Angel Reese and we could even gobefore then if we want to talk
about LSU.
Both women one white, one black, one other culture, one another

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culture were both beingunapologetically themselves.
And that's the crazy thing thatpeople don't understand,
because they don't understandthe women's game.
For somebody who's beenwatching women's basketball damn
near since I've been 17, 16,because my sister played the
sport y'all just didn'tunderstand that women could be
like this, they could have thiscompetitive edge, they could

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have this bravado, this zeal,just like the men do.
It just looks different becauseof how it's packaged.
Caitlin Clark she was runningup the numbers, going crazy in
the NCAA tournament, talking allthis stuff.
Y'all were saying Copa Mantali,but she still was being
unapologetically.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Mamba.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Unapologetically herself.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Who's Cobra?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Cobra Mamba, you right, I said Mamba.
And then Angel Reese she justgiving you.
Honestly, I don't know what thehood they talking about.
I don't know if Angel Reese isreally giving me ghetto hood or
whatever they've been saying.
To me she just seemed like anormal black girl who is in her
bag from a basketball standpointand she understands her

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blackness and she's reveling inthat and she actually is very
proud to be black and she showsit every single time.
She is doing everything.
Even her poses are feminine.
You know what I'm saying.
She understands that balancebetween being an athlete and
being a woman right, as anybodyshould.
And my problem is that otherpeople are trying to dictate to

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these women how they need to act, and I'm telling y'all right
now.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
you tell somebody, Well, they're only telling one
person how they should react.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
I guess you're right.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
The whole buzz or the whole controversy with the
situation is that Angel Reesewas taunting and I say that with
quotation marks Caitlin Clarkat the end of the game, even
though they lost.
So, or because they lost, shewas taunting them.
If the roles were reversed, itwouldn't have been none of this

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dialogue, none of this discourse, but because Angel Reese and
her team full of black women wonand beat a team full of white
girls, with a couple ofsprinkles of black women and
ambiguity, the conversation isdifferent.
I'm really here to talk aboutbeing unapologetic yourself.

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One thing that we need torealize is that this younger
generation of people becauseAngel Reese is a sophomore, so
she may be 2019, maybe 21, fresh, 21.
These are kids and they're notfrom the same generation of us
where we have to berespectability, politics and all
this stuff they gonna saywhatever the fuck they want and

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you're not gonna.
The consequences is not thesame for them, because this is
their world.
Yeah, I was about to say Beforeus I wish I could.
That's why I say y'all justlucky that I wasn't really good
at basketball, because if I wasreally good at basketball, I
would have been just like thatand I was very unapologetic when
I was young.
I was very unapologetic when Iwas young, to the point to where

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the white people because it waswhite people the white people
around me worked so hard to makeme not be the way that.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
I was Like they physically?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
you could physically see them like seizing and having
, like you know, like thedissonance of just trying to
control me, but I'm just like a16, 17 year old, which is not
even.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
not even.
That's what it was.
I was definitely unapologeticAt young girl, because we can go
back to when you were in fifthgrade.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh yeah, I mean since I was coming into my own and
since I started being able tolike, pick up on like life and
social and social conversationsand social cues, I've always
just been unapologeticallymyself and people have had a
problem with it.
And the difference between meand Angel Reese is that she can
do her big one because werealize that, like

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respectability, politics onlyaffects us Because either way,
if you fit into this box of whatthe white people want, they're
still going to tell you you'renot good enough because you
black.
So you might as well getoutside that fucking box, do
what you want to do, be who youare and just live your life.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Be who you are for your life there, there, there.
So I mean I agree with youright and not to focus.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
That's why I love Chicago shit.
Like, even though we're fromthe suburbs 100.
And that's not like our, it'sour experience.
Like nobody will ever tell melike we don't, we're not from
Chicago.
Like, regardless of like whatyou know, where the lines are
and how people you know defineChicago and suburbs and whatever
the fuck I'm, I'm completelyokay with saying that I'm from

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streamwood, but I'm alsocompletely okay with being like
I'm from Chicago and I loveChicago shit.
Like, when I go to certainplaces and I go to certain
events and I know it's going tobe a good ass Chicago time, I'm
okay with that.
Like I love Chicago girls.
So like I love, I loveeverything about you know what
it is to be Chicago.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Be from Chicago, whether it's Southside, westside
.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
You know I don't really pick a side.
If you from up North, you knowthat's where we from and if you
from over East.
You know that's, that's, it'son Chicago, that's your own
Chicago too.
I love a.
I got my Miska Moscow too,Because if Lotto can go to East
shore and film a music video,that was in the East shore.

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Yes, this is South shore, SouthEast.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
East.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
East side.
Chicago is South shore, got you.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Like right by Indiana ?
Yeah, I know where that was.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
If Lotto can go there and feel comfortable.
I got quotation marks Then youknow anybody can during the day
I just I just, and that's awhite woman.
So y'all, this white woman justwalked through Lotto is white,
she is.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
Lotto is mixed.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
That's why woman.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Okay, well, she's definitely mixed what you eat.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
So injuries, you know ?
I just I feel like DG is likehe said.
He is just very unapologetic inthe way that he refuses to wash
dishes that he used and isleaving the responsibility of
washing the dishes to somebodyelse, just because he and and
and, as much as a progressiveperson that he likes to be, he's
a fully leaning into misogynybecause he knows that a woman is

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not going to leave dishes.
You're a liar.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
You're a liar.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
You're a liar Then give the actual reason to why
you don't wash the dishes.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
I told you.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I just, I just that's not like a bullshit reason to
just.
It might be unbeknownst to you.
Unbeknownst to you.
You like the?

Speaker 1 (16:55):
massage where unbeknownst yes, unbeknownst.
I didn't say that I don't Ipronounce words correctly.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
You're the one who unbeknownst to you.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, there we go, unbeknownst to you.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
You might have that internalized massage.
New are in you, it's okay.
It's literally benefit off thefact that you're a male, whether
you identify with it or not.
So the fact because if I leftthem dishes in the sink, mom
would fully come upstairs andbeat my ass, or I wouldn't even
do that because I know how towash my dishes.
But I'm just saying theconversation would have been
different.
The fact that she just calledyou, out your name and washed

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the dishes is just regular, butthe fact that I would not even
think of that or the fact thatsomebody could say you're a girl
, you should be doing this, butthat's not the conversation that
you got.
You literally just got told allof the things that you got told
and somebody else washed thedishes 100%.
So it's, like I said,underlying something that you

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can't control, something thatyou're unaware of, but you fully
benefit off the fact thatyou're a man.
That's not the reason why Iknow, that's not the reason why
you think, but I'm just lettingyou know the obvious.
Oh yeah, I could get that theunconscious bias?
There's no bias in thesituation with the unconscious.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yeah, just reality of the situation Be learned
behavior.
Yeah, that's what I was goingto say.
I mean yes, but I think even ingeneral right, the dishes is a
small thing, because that'sactionable, but the personality
traits that I've been grantedand I've just learned to lean
into, because that's who I am,is kind of like the crux of the

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conversation we're having.
Like, if I look at my wholeentire life, I'm still the same
person in my values that I am.
That I was when I was a youngerkid.
It's just a little bit morerefined and I have situational
awareness.
So for me, like you said,similar to you, my problem was
that I've always been a prettyoutspoken and if you tell me to

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shut up, I'ma just keep talking.
Black boy into black man, right,it doesn't really matter what
era of my life.
If a teacher has told me to stoptalking because you're trying
to teach something in the classand I already got it and I feel
like you could speed up theclass, I've done that and the
what is funny, how, like atfirst, the biggest obstacles in

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your life are usually the peoplewho don't think that you will
amount to much.
And that's what I've realized,right, when I was a young black
boy and all these teachers wereover here separating me from all
my friends.
I would have my own individualdesk, right by the teacher, or
away from them, or I'd be closerto the teacher and at the end
of the day, it was just for themto police me, right?
Which we've talked about beforeon this episode, on this

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podcast, about how teachers kindof will police you because
they're trying to force you tobe something you're not, and all
those same teachers who didn'tknow that you would amount to
much.
Guess where the fuck they atand guess where the fuck we at.
Still there.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
We always have this conversation, though we
literally like it's sounfortunate because we've spoken
about, I think that like theeducational system, as flawed as
it is, literally has thepotential to like bring it's
where you spend the most of yourdays as a kid, like you
literally spend the most of yourdays for most of the years in
this schooling system so theyhave the potential to really

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shift your life in one way oranother and I feel like it is on
teachers to really take thatresponsibility to do that.
I mean, regardless of theresources like you know, we're
literally seeing it with AbbaElementary.
They're giving us a like, atake, if you will, on like the
schooling system from like howthey don't have the resources
and stuff, like that but like weactually see that there are

(20:35):
teachers who are doing theirbest to make a difference.
I mean at the elementary schoollevel and I can't really speak
to my elementary school teachersbecause that was so long ago
but like, when I think about myex, when I think about like, the
bulk of like, or thetransformative period in my
education in my education it washigh school- and I think about
those interactions that I hadwith those teachers.
Them teachers didn't do whatthey needed to do, but that's

(20:56):
because it's.
So we always talk, we literallyalways talk about them, but I
think it's so important becauseteachers have so much power that
they don't.
They may not feel like theyhave because they're so limited
in their resources, but I think,like your attitude, is the
biggest it could do.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
a little could go so far especially in high school,
as somebody who is actively so.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
I love a good teacher though.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, as somebody who A good teacher, I love a good
teacher 100% as somebody who isactively like a participant in
the community and trying to giveback to younger generations.
I think the one thing that I'vetaken away from my interactions
when I was that age is thatnobody encouraged me and allowed
me to be myself, and that comesfrom a point of one internal

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confidence and like security inyour insecurities.
Right, because what you see islike a lot of teachers will
project their, a lot of peoplewho aren't in authority to
figure will project theirinsecurities on how a person
should behave onto said child,or yeah, because that's what it
is.
We're children all the way upuntil high school, and so we get
honestly up into college 2018.

(22:05):
I mean, but even in collegeyou're still a kid, so that's my
thing.
What I've realized is that,like, if I look back, a lot of
people was trying to tell me howto act, but nobody was trying
to teach me how to be me right,which is an individual journey,
yes.
But then I look at somebodylike my older brother, or our
older brother, tunde, and histhing was never like I'm not

(22:27):
going to change who you are, I'mjust going to see, I'm going to
learn you, I'm going to figureyou out, and then I'm going to
best point out how you shouldshape your life based on what
God has given you as your skillset and your gifts.
So somebody who took theapproach of like okay, there's
nothing wrong with this person,there's nothing wrong with this
individual, how do I continue tosew into this person?

(22:50):
How do I continue to invest?
How do I continue to allow thisperson to flourish as they are?
Don't get me wrong.
You learn lessons the wrong way,but your personality and your
quirkiness is what makes you you, and what I'm saying is not the
journeys and trials andtribulations, but anybody and I
say this anybody who has evertried to tell me how to be me.

(23:11):
I shut that down real fuckingquick, because what you're not
going to do is tell me how to beme.
I don't care if you have ourbest interests at heart.
I don't even care if you feellike there's something wrong for
me from a character standpoint.
The only person who could checkme is God, and probably to me

(23:32):
and me Probably you.
Those are the people.
Besides that, anybody who'sever tried to tell me about
myself I'm like you wasn't withme shooting in the gym.
So me being unapologetic is meknowing that, hey, I've put the
work in, I've really analyzedmyself as a human being and I
can speak boldly and I can speakconfidently Because I know who

(23:54):
I am.
I know my intention.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
That's a good thing.
Like you did the work for showCorrect, you went to the therapy
, you did the self-healing, youdid the inner.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
I also did the apologizing.
I went on a world tour ofapologies that's what people
really don't know because I'd betalking like I'm high and
mighty, but I was obviously likeno, I'm sorry for the way I
talked to you during the seasonof my life.
I'm sorry for what I did.
You apologized to.
Tunde, of course I did.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah, what did you do to him?

Speaker 1 (24:16):
No, I didn't apologize.
Oh, I didn't apologize to Tunde.
I didn't do anything I was goingto say you didn't do nothing to
him, but I did have toapologize to a number of folks
because of how high I treatedthe situation.
But that's part of it, right?
Yeah, you know making amends,but also I'm not big up on that.
So, like People are going toforgive you or they're not
Exactly, and my thing is that,like now that I'm at the stage,

(24:37):
the beauty of beingunapologetically yourself is the
way you get to love on yourself.
So unintentionally, right theboundaries that like I have with
people, but also myself, andlearning who I am every day and
my tendencies even faster, isreally accelerated A lot of my,
my season of growth, right, or,as Yamu was saying, I've been in
my bag lately.

(24:57):
I don't even feel like I'mreally, really in that bitch.
I feel like the hand is just atthe cusp.
I'm still.
I'm still holding the handle.
I'm not really in the bag yet.
But you know that will come.
But now I'm going to ask youright, because you talked about
your experiences being a blackgirl in the schooling system.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
No, that's what we always, we always end up getting
on that it just has so much ofan influence on your life we
really start to realize.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
You spend so much time there.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
You're literally until you graduate from, whether
it's high school or college.
If you go get your, you areliterally a student for the
majority of your life, 100%,until you're not.
And we're always learningYou're always a student.
If you're not student in school, you're the student of the game
.
You're never not learning.
I love learning.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
I just don't love like the schooling system
education system Kind of it'skind of getting ridiculous with
how much it costs.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
And they killing the killing, the shooting babies in
the schools.
So what's the question?

Speaker 1 (25:53):
So the question for me is that, like, besides
schooling, right Like, what I'venoticed for you is that your
extracurricular activities kindof helped you to kind of shape
who you are, but also, like,accept who you are.
Right Like I'm not, that's notwhat I'm trying to say.
They allowed you to beunapologetically yourself, right
Like, I think when you joinedDelta, a lot of your qualities

(26:16):
came out Right Like you being anatural born leader, being very
organized, routine, thesisterhood, the things that you
wanted to be.
I felt like you literally gotposition and that came out of
you.
So, like, how did that feelLike?
What did that look like for you?
What was that journey like?

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I mean at the time, like when I like joined, when I,
when I became a duly initiatedmember into Delta, sigma, theta
Sorority Incorporated, like younever realized how much of an
impact it's going to have on you, especially since I didn't have
any prior knowledge of thesisterhood before I got to
college.
And even like going through theprocess and just like learning
all of the things, like I think,like it really just taught me

(26:55):
that like you just have to be onyour shit as a black woman,
like you literally just have tobe on your shit Anything you do.
Like there's really no excusethat you can make because the
work has to get done at the endof the day.
Like I literally, by the time Igot to my senior year was was
running, fully running thechapter by myself and you know,
putting on programs like doingthe business, doing school, and
then bringing in a line of eightinitiates, my Niels, all by

(27:18):
myself.
Of course, I had the support ofmy alumni chapter, but when it
came down to Delta chapter andanything that needed to be done
for Delta chapter at theUniversity of Iowa that year
2018, when I was a graduatingsenior, not knowing what the
fuck I was going to do for therest of my life because I was
leaving.
This part of my, this chapterwas ending for me as it was

(27:38):
beginning for other people.
Every part of that process wasme.
I signed my name on eightapplications.
You know everything, sorry.
So all of that like and that's,and really, what that taught me
is that, like, anything that Iwant to do, I have the full
capacity to do.
Like, even now, people, how doyou balance doing this and this
and this?
Because I've done it under apressure cooker, which is

(28:01):
literally just like you havethis.
These are the deadlines you needto make and you have, you know,
people have done this with allof the support that they need.
So one thing I realized is,yeah, definitely use your
resources and, you know, fall on, fall on your people when you
can, but also realize that, likenobody is going to do the work
If you don't do it, it's justnot going to get done.
It needs to get done becauseother people depend on you.
Like there were literally girlswho wanted to share this, this

(28:23):
same experience that I cherishso much and that I was
cherishing when I was there.
They want to share thisexperience with me and also with
the, with the, with the massesof Delta, sigma, theta.
So it's really on you to ensurethat they have that, that
experience.
But, yeah, so it just it justspawned from that.
Also, it's just really fun.

(28:43):
I realized that, like, being insituations like that are where I
thrive the best, like I, I likebeing busy, I like I like
having something to do, notbecause I'm avoiding, you know,
downtime and boredom, because Idefinitely sit in that all the
time as well, but I just wouldprefer to be like hands on, you
know, like in, in in thesituation, and then that's how

(29:05):
you know, like the music stuff,like the DJing stuff, and like
becoming like this, this, thissocial light, or you know what
we're working towards.
All the things that we're doingright now is all just because
this is the shit that we like todo 100%.
So, in all of it, and and reallyworking towards being your own
boss, so you, so no one can tellyou that you have to act a
certain type of way, is isreally, is really that, and

(29:27):
that's what I'm saying.
Like I really wish that I wasbetter at basketball, because if
I was, or that I took it moreserious, because if I was just
like Angel Reese, y'all wouldn'tbe able to tell me shit,
because one thing about it I'mtalking all this shit and I'm
being, you know, be able toarticulate it I'm backing it up
because I'm doing the work, likemy team literally won the
national championship.
So, regardless of what you haveto say about my attitude and

(29:51):
the way that I run, the way thatI run things over here, I'm
putting action behind it.
So that's really all it is.
So, yeah, I've just like turnedthe like negative connotation
of being unapologetically meinto like a positive and just
like using it for my benefit,but it was never a negative.
It was never a negative to me.
It was just like that is howthe people around me made it

(30:12):
seem, so I turned it into apositive and I've just now I'm
being very loud about what I do,if it's like, if it's the
professional part of me yes, Iam a mid, mid senior level
professional working in tech.
I, you know, I, I'm, I'mmanaged, I make money.

(30:32):
Then, monday through, I do thatMonday through Friday, then
Friday, excuse me.
Then Friday through Sunday, I'mDJing and I'm being loud, I'm,
you know, I'm making my presenceknown, whether it's by speaking
on the mic, whether it'splaying this dope ass music that
people want to listen to, andI'm just like enjoying being a
part of the scene.
I'm going to do that too.
So, anywhere that you, that you, that you in you excel, but I

(30:55):
just want to know what any ofthat has to do with you not
washing dishes that you use.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, I mean that's you going back.
Why are you settling back?

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Because, this is the theme of the episode.
The theme of the episode isbeing unapologetic, but we're
being.
I'm talking about beingunapologetic in a positive way.
You were talking about beingunapologetic.
That's just an example.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
There's plenty of times where I've been
unapologetic in a positive way.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Of course, no one's saying that you're not, you want
to bring up the one bad thing.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
we all can't be perfect what I say because we
have these conversationsperfectly perfect.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yes, yes, you are a ghetto intellectual.
Yeah 100% but every every weekyou do the same thing and expect
, excuse me, a different outcome.
Not even expected to foroutcome I don't expect.
The outcome is always the sameand I feel like we know.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
I'm just waiting for Bob to be like you know what?
This is.
Just my son, if this is the onething that she's never.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
She's never going to do that.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
If this is the one thing that he does that I don't
like, cool, so be it.
That's all it is.
She's never gonna do that.
Mom has a lot of things.
You have a lot of things that Ihave to learn to accept because
I love you.
You, that's the thing.
It's not love if you can'taccept me.
For me, that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Yeah, I'm going to say that they don't love me.

Speaker 1 (32:09):
for me, people are the podcast.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Okay, this nigga acting like he just has a
natural BO or like he walks, hewalks, he walks.
They don't love me for me, hewalks slow, like these are
things yes, these are thingsthat we can accept you for
things that we can't change.
You know you snore when yousleep.
You know things that you can'tchange, even though that can be
changed.
You don't wash the dishesbecause you feel like you don't

(32:32):
have to.
That's something you can justget up.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
So, first of all, first of all, first of all, what
Yemi is not going to tell youis that in this house, our
father has never washed thedishes.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
And never, never washed the plates.
So if that's my learned behaviorthat's like if our mom is away,
he will cook.
He will leave the whole fuckingdishes at the same.
He will cook and fully leavethe dishes in the sink, expect
it.
That's what I said.
That's why I was like, why areyou calling this man Like?
What the fuck he going to do?
Honestly, if anything, ifyou're feeling exhausted and
you're feeling tired becauseyou're fasting and you know it's
taking a lot out of you, thatnigga is doing the same thing

(33:02):
too.
But he could also get up in themorning because she wakes up a
little bit earlier than he getsup to come downstairs and cook
and cook for them.
I'm like he can be doing thatshit Like that.
Nigga don't ever pick up aspoon, he don't pick up a knife.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
I'm like you must got a good, because I don't even
know if you deserve it.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
But and that's the real team, you know, and that's
why I said if anybody gotsomething to say to me, they can
say it to me, because I gotwords for them.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Of course.
So it's interesting and I lovethe fact that, like you, leaning
in to who you areunapologetically has kind of
amplified everything that youwant it to be, which I think is
a super, super, super, superimportant point, right, like a
lot of times, people think thatbeing unapologetically
themselves, and I'm gonna saythat means you get the right to

(33:47):
act.
Rude ghetto, and this is justme being honest, but it
basically is all the shittycharacteristics of a human being
.
That's what you think.
It means, right,unapologetically Living out who
you are and your truth for meMeans that you gain an alignment
and in that alignment you findout who you be and you end up

(34:10):
becoming.
This is my whole thing,remember you may.
I said what my Ted talk is,right, my Ted talk, if I ever
get the chance to be on it wouldbe what would it look like if I
never experienced trauma andwhat would the who is that
individual and who is thatperson?
Right, it's funny, when youstart leaning in to who you are
Unapologetically, how all thethings you always envision for

(34:33):
yourself start to happen.
Who that glow, who, thepersonality, who, the networking
, oh, the success in your career.
All these things happen becauseyou said.
You know what.
I'm tired of people dictatingwho I need to be.

Speaker 2 (34:47):
I dictate who I need to be, and I'm a good thing you
get, for you get further along,like letting go of like what you
know, how you feel, like howsociety feels, like you should
act in the situation.
I feel like me, and one thingthat I know a lot of people do
is like don't like never go upto someone and just like have a
Conversation with them.
And even sometimes, when you doit, I'd be like, oh my goodness
, but like, sometimes, likeyou'll walk up and have a
conversation with someone andthat could literally be, or just

(35:09):
like talking to the next personthat you feel like you you
shouldn't be talking to, orwhatever.
That can Literally be theconnection that you need.
So I've been that's one thing.
I've been seeing a lot of likeI'll talk to, I'll talk to
certain people who like People,I'll talk to anybody really, and
you never know what kind ofconnection that's gonna get you.
But yeah, is there?
Is there anything else that youwanted to say about?

Speaker 1 (35:30):
we didn't even talk about unapologetic.
So now I have a beautiful story, right.
So, like, like yummy said,middle, middle management,
senior level, right, we're bothkind of in the same space in our
career right now, which is abeautiful thing to see, right?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
I'm a little ahead of you though that's fine.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
You, you, you've had the, you've had the, that,
you've had the bank of knowledgeand experience to help you
along the way.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
So amen so for that you should honestly I'm just
talking shit, because youliterally left me at the TSA and
and you upgraded your seat andand you would have done the same
exact thing.
Well, we don't know, becauseI'm not in the situation.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Well, and you never will, because guess what?
Your upgrade gonna happen andyou're gonna be in the same.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Position that I am and hopefully my soul house,
come through.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Amen At a good church .
Hey, man, amen.
So I'm saying these thingsbecause I'm realizing right like
the early part of my career.
I will tell y'all it was thebiggest struggle of my life
because I I felt like being mewas enough, if that makes sense,

(36:38):
not from a work standpoint, butI felt like, off the strength
of who I am as a person, peoplewould connect and vibe with me.
No and that was a tough lesson Ihad to learn in corporate
America.
I wasn't in there.
I wasn't in corporate Americato make any friends, or I wasn't
doing any of that, yeah.
But what I realized is that,like these niggas don't give a

(36:58):
fuck about you, so why shouldyou give a fuck about?

Speaker 2 (37:00):
these.
Yeah, they really don't careabout you right and that was the
realization.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
But then life hit me.
In my second I would just thebeginning part of my career is
treacherous and I'm still at thebeginning.
You know I'm saying cuz careerstypically last 30 to 40 years,
but I'll be damned if I stay.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
I'm still working in corporate America, and I'm 60,
I'm gonna be sick, so what?

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I will say now is that that, unapologetically,
being myself at this new phasein my life has really
Exponentially grown when it'scome to corporate America.
And that's the point I actuallywanted to get to, because you
ever thought, talked about itfrom a personal aspect, and I
love the testimony because weneed that.
But we need practicalapplication.
Right on this podcast, you cometo us for the last, you come

(37:44):
for the funny, but we also giveyou a lot of practical sense,
right?
So we both being in corporateAmerica you heard, at the level
of the level we are in ourcareers, right, and it's not
like we're doing anything bigand we could, we could Still,
but it's it's, it's doingsomething, right.
I'm in corporate America, I'm ayoung professional or I'm in the
middle of my career.
I'm trying to elevate.

(38:04):
What does it look like from aday-to-day perspective to be
Unapologetically black in thesespaces when majority of the
company is white?
And if they're on a diversityand inclusive Initiative, the
majority of my counterparts arewhite women?
Right, because that's reallywhat it means.
That's what it really means.
Yeah, do you.
And I don't mean we're gonnahire more black people, it means

(38:26):
we're gonna hire more whitewomen, or?

Speaker 2 (38:29):
or diversity in general.
I'm just like diver wheneverthey really say that they really
just mean white women or quotedlanguage.
That's just more calledcorporate game.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
You know I'm saying what does that look like?
You know I'm saying like I'mtrying to get that, because what
I've noticed in my career andmy experience now is that, like
at this tech company, right,what I've learned is how to be
professional but make it soundcreatively, like myself right.
Like it's not that boring guyslike, well, this is the
statement, blah, blah, blah.
I'll be like, okay, so this iswhat the finances, looking like

(38:59):
this this month, right in thismonth's finance, I'll break it
out like blah, blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
And even how I I I.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
That's one thing I struggle with too is like I can
talk Like you know, we talk allthe time on this podcast and we
make and and we make, you know,big ideas sound regular.
But like, when I get into my,my workspace and I'm trying to
like have conversations abouthow things work, it's very hard

(39:28):
for me to communicate thatwithout like Speaking about it.
The way that I would just havea regular conversation, like I
could just, you know, like tryto explain something to somebody
and not using like Blackvernacular or just speaking like
it's regular conversation,because, one, they're not gonna
get it to, it's gonna soundawkward in this space and and
and.
Three, you want to keep a levelof professionalism.
But if I'm just having aconversation with you, I could

(39:51):
like fully break down a concept,a statistical concept, to you
in regular language, but likehaving to be able to switch that
it's just very hard to do,especially since I don't work in
a traditional Corporate setting.
Like I work in my house, so Ican come downstairs and have a
conversation with you about someother shit, and then I gotta go
back upstairs and I go backupstairs and like you know, cop
back, cop back.
Cold switch is very it's veryhard to navigate and remote work

(40:13):
is definitely hard.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
Yeah, sometimes I do get caught up using.
I'm like, yeah, it's giving.
You probably say that all timeon the cost.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I definitely, I say one, I say on hundred, yeah, I
say that all the time.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I say a hundred yeah, I say that all the time, yeah,
and now I've changed it from ahundred to a hundred percent,
yes, so it's more of a further.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
So like it's simple things like that.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
But also I have made, like I know this has been like
a really big topic, right, likebefore I didn't really
understand, like the definitionof presenting myself as Like a
black man in America, right,because what they used to say is
like that hair, blah, blah,blah me.
I work from home, I'm on everycall.

(40:56):
I got, I got my hoodie, I gotmy hoodie on, I got the hood
going back.
If I got a hat, as I'm wearingit like a black man would, right
.
So I'm not, I'm not, I'm notreally hiding that, no more.
If I got braids in fresh braids, when they asked me I get a
haircut, I'd be like, no, I got,I got my stuff rebrated.
Today, if they see my, you know, and I do, I I've got never

(41:17):
asked.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I will fully like you're a woman, that makes sense
.
I'm a black man, black woman.
I'm a black man in finance,with braids like that's.
That's.
I'm a black woman in analytics.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
No, no, no, no, but that's not what I'm saying.
That it's just.
It's just typical Finance isvery clean cut.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Like you have a typical.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
This is the new generation, but that's all we
saying exactly so me doing thatI was.
I was in a meeting yesterdayand there was another black dude
.
He had on a pink Duraq.
I said I love to see it.
I love to see it, my nigga.
I said don't let me get a,because I will wear the Duraq
and I have my shit tied to theside just to be like hey, a is
so.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
I guess.
So as long as it's not like animportant meeting, if it's just
like a regular one.
It was a weekly sync, but it'sjust funny because like you're
starting to see the generationis changing.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Yeah, You're starting to, but he's older than I am,
and that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
You have to say like it is a little bit, but like
don't try to press anything toohard.
You know, like, stay within yourboundaries.
Like, do what you do.
You're a big one Like.
I fully will have aconversation about what I did on
the weekend with my manager andhe loves he loves to hear it
because he understands that,like, people have a life outside
of, but that that was one ofthe things I did too.
Yeah, like, hopefully, justtalk about like what, like in
detail.

(42:27):
Yeah, I DJ this, I did this, Idid this, you know.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
You know you should have fun because as a employer
and I say that in corporateAmerica you don't want your
employer you're gonna want youremployee to only rely and focus
on you, because otherwise thatjust leads for a very dismal
life.
Like I was talking to Tundeabout this, I said it's crazy
how, when I started pursuinglike other things work, work

(42:52):
outside of my corporate job howmy work performance got better,
right, how my ability to focusgot better, because it's like I
got to get this work donebecause I want to hop to what I
want to work on.
I got other shit to do.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
I got other shit to do and I want to.
I want to keep this job so Ican fund the other shit that I
want to do Like that's thebiggest thing.
I'm like you want me to do this?
Okay, 100%.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
But then you start seeing that in your performance
reviews, the amount of work youget, even the, the, the enmity
that they give you, and that'swhat really did it for me.
If you give me autonomy I usethe wrong word, autonomy is the
word If you give me enoughautonomy, I'll go crazy because
I already know how to make theright decisions.
I just need to know that you'renot gonna be on my back because
at that point it's you doingthe job, it's not me doing the

(43:34):
job.
So I say all those thingsbecause I think while while
you're in corporate America, oneof the biggest things I learned
is that, like, we used to be socut, like so guarded as black
people and we still have to beto a degree right.
But certain things I'm gonnatell you that I got a shoe
hustle on the side and I makebread doing that, because you

(43:56):
know what I might get yourbusiness on, god, you know what
I'm saying.
I just don't want to make money.
But that's just the aspect oflike in the generation of
hustlers.
I mean we in the generation ofhustlers.
But I got to be unapologeticmyself.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
We are the generation of.
I feel like our generation isthe generation of hustlers and
the generation after us isdefinitely the unapologetic.
Like what do you mean?
I can't do this, I'm gonna dowhatever the fuck I want to do.
Like just being very, notobtuse, because obtuse is like
kind of negative connotation toit, but just being just like
being like very in your shit,like I'm gonna be, I'm no, I'm
focused on me and making surethat I'm living the life that I

(44:30):
want to live, because thegenerations before were focused
on everybody else.
So, yeah, I believe that.
I think that that ties in verywell.
You know, like Angel Reeseliterally just put on a show of
like no, I'm gonna do what Iwant to do.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
I'm gonna be black.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
I'm gonna just make it make sense, like why would?
Why would we want to go, likethe losers aren't supposed to go
to, to see?
The president, regardless ofhow you feel about you know this
being a win for black, forwhite, for women's sports in
general.
We all are aware that it is awin for women's sports in
general, but if you lost thegame, you don't need to be.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Loser, loser, that's all it is.
That's is we got the dub.
You supposed to sell, yousupposed to rub it in a face?

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Not to that extreme, I mean.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
I'm just not like that in general, I'm trying to
tell you I'm so tired because Iplay sports.
I'm glad I'm not good at sports.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Because if I was, if I was, if I was dunking on holes
and and you know, you know,scoring 30, 40 points a game,
y'all would they, would,literally they would have to
tell the town I'm so tired of it.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
It would be everybody against me, what the like?
I'm trying to understand wherethis idea of sportsmanship and I
would sell shirts, Suki againsteverybody.
That's why I'm, I'm, I would beso.
I'm so confused where this ideaof sportsmanship came from.
Because, because it doesn'tmake sense to me, right,

(45:48):
Sportsmanship when y'all beengoing at it for 60, 70 minutes,
and especially when it comes tosports like football, hockey,
like you really trying to hurtme and now you telling me I got
to pick, I got to ask forsportsmanship, like no.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Right, that's especially a sport like that,
where the goal is to knock thisnigga down.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
Right, and I'm like y'all are.
Y'all are arbitrarily pickingwhat.
What is the core of it not?
And this is not it.
This is a glad.
These are gladiator sports.
If you want to do them, youwould do them.
Now we got to wrap it upbecause that's.
That was a lovely segment.
No, it was honestly I wantedy'all to hear that, because
there's value in beingunapologetically yourself, and
the value is that you understandthat you are the only person

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that you need in order to besuccessful.
You are the catalyst to yoursuccess.

Speaker 2 (46:34):
And anybody who's willing to help you on this
success journey.
You don't have to you don't gotto do it alone, because that's
what we that's what I mentionedbefore too Like I had a, I had a
team and anywhere, anywhere,anywhere you feel like you see
me succeeding and I'm and I'mstill getting there.
I haven't reached the pinnacleof my success yet, but anywhere
you feel like you see mesucceeding.
I've had people that helped mealong the journey.
Of course, I did a bulk of thework, but I'll never say that I

(46:58):
didn't have, like the support ofmy, my alumni chapter, my
advisors when I was in college,you know, doing Delta stuff,
like my brothers as it pertainsto like professional stuff, my
DJ mentors, my friends, all ofthe people that have supported
me who come to, who come to myevents, my, my friends that make
flyers for me.
Like anybody, it's a team.
It all takes the effort of theteam.
Any, any part of my life whereyou see that I'm succeeding and

(47:20):
I've had, I've had successfulmoments, it's all been because
of me.
But in, in addition to thepeople, that I have you.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
You, you go farther when you have a team, exactly.
And the one thing I'll sayabout the Caitlin Clark and
Angel Resituation is that whenLSU won, I love the support
platonically of all black menjust celebrating the excellence

(47:48):
that was black women.
It's high time that that is thenorm.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
All I have to say is this I went to school at the
University of Iowa.
I didn't give a fuck about themgirls at Iowa.
I didn't give a fuck.
I wanted them to lose to SouthCarolina.
I really wanted them to loseSouth Carolina.
And I tell you why because Iowadoes not support black people.
And I'm going to tell you thisright now the board of
resurgence resurgence, whateverthe fuck the people is are

(48:16):
literally halting funding to alldiversity programs at public
schools and reviewing it to seeif it's worth the money that
they are giving.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
That's what they do first.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
That's what they're doing first.
They're doing that right now.
Once they do the old, once theydo the new programs, they will
definitely start reviewing.
And if they decide to takefunding away from the new
programs, they're definitelygoing to look into the funding
that they're giving old programs.
That includes your BSU,whatever program your school got
, whether it's and I'mspecifically speaking very

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selfishly about Delta, sigma,theta, sorority, incorporated,
because some of the funding thatwe did get from the things that
we did on campus, off campus,was from our student government.
So if they decide that theywant to take that money away,
I'm going to have a problem withthat for sure.
So fuck Iowa, fuck theUniversity of Iowa.
I hope y'all don't get no moneyfrom this sporting event, and
that's really why I was rootingfor y'all to lose.

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Y'all didn't do nothing for me.
Anything that I got from theUniversity of Iowa came from me.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
On the straight field and I still owe y'all money.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
They talking about a lot of y'all owe.
I saw a tweet that said a lotof y'all owe Iowa apology.
I said I owe them student loansand they not getting either
from me.
I owe them student loans too.
They not getting that shit fromme either.
What you mean?
I owe them an apology, I owethem money and they not getting
that from me.
Salome could call me today andI'm going to her Girl.
Fuck you.
Find that money in thebasketball program.

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I know you got it.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Y'all ask you ask me to give you this money back and
I know you got it.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
They definitely do, but we don't got it.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
We just make more money than me with the NIL deals
.
Bro man, what it is to be acollege athlete, but you got 16,
15, 17.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
I don't know how she is, she's tall as hell for a
woman.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
She's six foot, Is she?
That's what they said.
They said Kaleen Clark six footand her hands are massive.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
No, yeah, she do got big ass hands.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Yeah.
But they said, yeah, she'sshorty, tall.
She don't look tall, though,because she always bending down
and she's a shooter.
So, shooters it's somethingweird about shooters they never
look as tall as they do becauseSteph Curry don't look tall and
he's six feet too.
No, he's like six, three,that's what they said.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
That's what they said they be lying on them reports.
Yeah, of course people got tostop lying on that shit for real
, On God, but yeah so congratsto LSU.
I really wanted it to be SouthCarolina at the end, but shorty
didn't know how to take jumpshots.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
That's how I was.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
And that's the thing she did.
She waved off the bitch.
I'm like I would have tookthree dribbles in and just got
me a little.
You know, popping pool, poppingpool she made one.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
She made one in the last couple of minutes too.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
That's why I was like it was a very important shot,
but if you would have been doingthat from the beginning of the
game, it would have been adifferent game.
It was a sports podcast.
So we're not going to betalking about this too much
longer, but we just wanted totalk about more of the
ramifications.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Yeah, the unapologetic girl that
presidents were.
By writing it, the first ladywould like y'all said this is
you lost.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
You a loser.
Stay home, see you next yearand this is my problem right.
When black people win, y'allwant to make it about part of
participation for everybody.
When white people win.
You want to be celebrated.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Celebrate their greatness.
Why can't we just celebrateLSU's greatness?

Speaker 2 (51:11):
and let that be it.
Right, you know what?
We're going to go to the ObamaHouse.
I'm ready to go to Obama Housetoo.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Honestly, I'm so tired of y'all making sports
political.
Like, what is this?
Yeah, everybody and Iunderstand.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
And stop looking at black athletes to be the voices
of black.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
Andrew makes his 19.
She shouldn't have this muchweight on her shoulders.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
Stop telling her what she shouldn't say to girls.
It's the child.
It's a lot of have fun.
It's a lot of have a moment,because when I was 18, 17, I was
far from politically correct.
Yes, that's when I made themost of my mistakes.
Yes, she's your TikTok dancingman.
She be dancing in the game.
That's a child.
After she block a shot, she bedoing a TikTok dance.
That's a kid.

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My heart is.

Speaker 1 (51:52):
She's doing what all of y'all are envious of, and
she's having fun, and that's whythe people on Twitter telling
her she needs to calm down aresick.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
She's having fun Because you didn't get to live
that life and you feel like yourway is right.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
That's jealousy.
Live your life now.
Yeah, literally have fun living, who be, who you are For your
brother.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
And just like that, let's move on to the next
segment Ghetto intellectual.
Let's go with it.
Ghetto intellectual questionfor today.
Yeah, let's do that Ghettointellectual.
I was thinking that we could dothings like Sendage on Twitter
first you could do both, wecould do both.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
We usually typically do yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
But the ghetto intellectual question today and
speaking of sports and all thethings that we've been speaking
to do you think thatsportsmanship was a man made
concept by the white man?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
It has to be.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
It has to be, it has to be because they started
integrating sports and theystarted seeing that black people
was whooping all asses.
Just in our essence, we arevery prideful.
Y'all can, y'all can, y'all canbeat us with them hoses out in
them streets.
But when you pick up thisbaseball and boom this, bitch
out this thing, often a runaround this stadium and act like
a real nigga.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
When I start dunking all y'all because we could jump
harder to y'all, I see y'allhave to make rules like invented
the three point line.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Now I'm not going to say anything about it, but we
know why they invented the threepoint line.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Right, that's really why Caitlin Clark got her points
.
Tell that bitch not to shoot.
She was jacking up some of thewildest shots I see she shot
five for 17 in one game.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Stop shooting threes.
That's not.
That's not.
That's not you being a volumescore, that's literally you
being the only score on the team.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
They literally make every.
That's why I didn't likebasketball when I was playing it
, because our coach relied onthe skill of one person.
All of our, all of our playshad an option to go to one
shooter.
It's very easy to scout forthat, yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
It's very easy to scout.
It doesn't make you a goodcoach either.

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Especially if you let this bitch throw up 30 shots a
game.
Yes, she's going to score 40points a game because you let
her throw up 30 shots.
Mathematically, you would hopethat at least 50% of them go in.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
And even if they don't 40%, that's still 30% of
30% of your okay.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
We all know math, but yeah, as long as it's not 10%
out of 40 shots.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Then you really got to sit on the bench, you got to
stop.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
20%, that's eight bucks Beyond the arc, you got to
go inside Exactly.
I mean, like, even if you madeeight shots to that's 16, 16
points, that's a solid game.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
That's what I said, even if she shoots 30% at
another, at another eight, oradd another eight to that.
No, no, add another four tothat.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
I'm sorry you good 20 points a game that's decent.
Anybody can win a game with 20points.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
Shoot 40%, give us an extra 20.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
That's it so, to get into, the answer is yes,
sportsmanship was created bywhite people.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
It had to be Like what Otherwise they would like
how else do you love it?
A playing field, because if Irun through you as a grown man,
I have every right to be likeyeah, fuck boy, you're my son.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
What's really good.
What you?

Speaker 1 (54:49):
going to do.
You're too little, too small,too small.
Or if I dunk on you, yes, youshould feel demoralized,
demoralized.
Sportsmanship is a thing thatthey made.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
Yeah, so that's when they started giving out
technical files.
I bet you, the first personnever get a technical file was a
black man.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
That's a good thing to Google.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
Who was the first person ever get a technical file
First player to ever get, okay,and at what point did they
start charging people fortechnical files?
I bet you, the first person toget a fee from the NBA for
getting a technical file wasalso a black man.
So yeah, that was the guy thatgot into a literal question.
I'm going to jump right intothings.
I send Deji on Twitter justbecause you know we've been

(55:28):
talking a lot which, so, for thesake of not talking too much
longer, we're going to get rightinto this Things.
I send Deji on Twitter when Ifind the tweet.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
So all I see here is that it looks like Carl Malone
has had the most technical files.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
No, that's not what we asked.
But I'm sorry, rashid Wallace.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
But a technical file.
They said this these sourcesare wrong because they're saying
it was invented in 1999.
I feel like it was sooner thanthat.
A technical file was invented1999.
Oh, like in the year, it had tobe in the 80s or 90s, when it
had to be in the 80s because ofthe bad boys pistons, but I
don't know.
I'm going to have to look.
I'm going to have to look atthis very controversial take.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
You know we listen to a lot of music over here on the
nothing but a G thing podcast.
Deji is the R&B thug and I justDJ in real life.
So very controversial take.
Who would win in a versussummer Walker or CISA?
This tweet says, not going tolie, summer Walker beating CISA
in a versus.
Let's be for real.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
So, CISA has 20 songs 20 songs versus 20 songs.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
Who's winning?
You can do features you can do.
You can do your own songs.
You can do EP things.
Who's winning?
Summer Walker or CISA?
I'll tell you after you say whoyou say and I say who I say.
I'll tell you what the peoplesay.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
So if I had to go, based off a body of work,
control.
She has the better album, cisahas the better album.
Control is a classic Grammyaward winning should have been.
So then CISA like no, becauseSOS is a lot of single lines,

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but she did that because shemarketed it on TikTok, so it was
more a commercially successfulalbum, but it's a lot of one
lighters.
It's not a good album aboutlyrics.
Yeah, it's not a good albumholistically.
It is a good album, but it'snot a good album and
holistically in storytelling andall that stuff.
But she did that on control.
But SZA, we got session 32,summer walker.

(57:40):
I mean summer walker, session32, we got riot.
We got clear, we got settlingit's Her, we got her.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Pop.
We could do it like thispopularity notarized SZA for
lyrics and song quality, summer,summer.
But the people voted.
They said SZA because Ipersonally, like, like I said, I
do what I do.
It like like I broke it down asit pertains to popularity, sza.
As it pertains to lyrics, inlike full circle moments, summer

(58:16):
walker Me.
Who am I bumping more?

Speaker 1 (58:19):
full circle moments for me would be SZA hands down.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Like moments, like songs.
Moments like you just said,there's like lyrics in the songs
that you fuck with, but like asit like a, like a full body of
work.
Yeah full body of work?
Yes, but like SZA, just droppedthis album, which is why people
are, like you know, giving itso much of its credit, and I
believe that she next year cometo Grammys if SZA's not walking
up to that stage multiple times.

(58:44):
You really think that's why Isaid that good.
I think that its commercialsuccess does not.
I think a good album does notmake a Good, actual, solid album
, does not?
We talked about this beforewith Taylor Swift and Beyonce.
A good album does not make youa Award-winner.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
You know, but I'm saying is it a good album?

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I only listen to it a full, like once.
But, I just like.
I just like the one song that Ilike.
And the one song that I likegives it enough power to like,
do whatever needs to.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
Do not because I'm trying to compare, but Jasmine
Sullivan's hotels.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Yeah, she got their words for that, though.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Complete body of work , wonderful story time.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
In the beginning of the end.
Everything is cohesive, itflows.
That's a good, that is a goodalbum and she received her
awards for that.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
That's a clock, that's an album you keep like
yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
And I feel like it probably would have did better
if the name wasn't called hotels, like that's what brought
people's attention.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
I Listen to her regardless to be honest, but
like the time, because we messwith Jasmine but other people.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
The time it came out, it was really relatable,
especially since the state ofdating is just trash right now.
But yeah, so I send a Twitterto be very honest with you.
You know summer Walker is mygirl, this is also my world.
But I just you know somethingabout like body Deep, the list,

(59:59):
that the list for me insane,constant bullshit, reciprocate,
yeah, circus, like still over itto like, even though y'all
didn't give it the praise thatit need, like switch on a nigga,
like a Lot of the songs justhit for me on that second album,
like in the only song that Ireally listen to now on on
snooze is snooze, on SOS snooze.

(01:00:21):
I can play that shit like 15times a day and never get sick
of it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Who's love language shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Like her singles that came out like I heard shirt
Good days.
I hate you.
These are songs that like havebeen out so long that we forget
that they were on the album.
But yeah, thank you forlistening to another episode of
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I'm back to the lecture and hey.