Prompted by Terry Crews' retelling of his experiences with infidelity on Club Shay Shay, we examine the nuances of cheaters laying their cards on the table. Are they seeking redemption, or looking for a way to ease their guilt? On this episode Chad dives into the motivation of cheaters, being a creator in the digital age of AI, and Donald Trump's new sneakers.
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
Alright, hi, this is another banana key.
I brought a magic wand todaybecause I wore this shirt.
We're going to start having thebook here.
This is the last hardcover bookI have with an action with this
on it.
I've taken this off of all ofthem.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay, why.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I just think it looks better without it.
It's a long story.
I mean, that's it.
That's the short story, it's along story.
That's the truth, okay, yeah,that's not the point of this
moment, though, this moment,alright, so I'm gonna jump right
in and I'm going to.
We're going to start with thereel that's going to come out of
this one.
So, cheaters, when you tellyour partner that you have
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cheated, why do you do that?
Cheaters, who confess to theircheating why do you confess?
Why do you tell your personthat you've cheated on them?
I'm asking that questionbecause I was watching Terry
Crews on Club Shea Shea and thishas now become a Club Shea Shea
(01:15):
review podcast.
It really has it's kind offunny.
That's what the whole podcastingsphere has become.
But I was watching Terry Crewson Club Shea Shea and as usual
it is a fantastic interview.
Shannon Sharp is great at thisand I think part of being great
at this is just he gets theright guess at the right time.
Who has something to say and hegets out of the way, like he
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gives them the right rope tokeep going and he gets out of
the way and he lets them go andthey don't feel judged.
But I'm asking cheaters.
I'm asking why and by cheatersI mean anyone who has cheated,
which is basically everybodythose of you who tell your
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person, who reveal to yourperson later, not because they
caught you in something, notbecause they went through your
shit and found something, notbecause they heard it through
the grapevine, not because afriend told them, not because
they had a feeling, whatever.
The people who confess to yourcheating, the people who mess
around with somebody, go on atrip and do some shit, mess with
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the coworker, you know, go on asite for a production and have
a girlfriend or a boyfriend onsite, whatever it is when you
come clean, quote unquote.
Why do you do that, I'm asking?
Okay, terry Cruz goes on club.
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She's a.
From the beginning of theinterview, like literally from
the first five minutes of thisinterview, terry Cruz is making
a point to tell Shannon Sharpthat his wife of I believe he
says 34 years has been TerryCruz 55.
So they got.
They got married when he was inhis early twenties, like 21, 22
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.
He's telling Shannon Sharp overand over again how this woman
has been like a saint to him.
She's been by his side, behindhim through this entire ride.
Every time he talks about anopportunity, going to the NFL,
getting his first acting job,getting his TV hosting jobs,
whatever he says we, we, we, we,we it's all about we, us, it's
us, me and this woman.
This is my person, my partner.
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He never says her name but hekeeps saying this is my person.
She's been down for me from thebeginning and I'm going to be
honest when guys tell storieslike this, guys specifically,
and they make a point to speakto how their lady has been down
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for them through, you know, oh,we were broke together.
Oh, we moved from here to heretogether.
Oh, I couldn't give heranything.
I couldn't offer her anythingbut my love, and she stayed by
my side and I made.
I had to.
You know, we spent 15 yearsbeing broke and I wouldn't get a
job because I had to focus onmy dream and she stayed by me.
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She stayed by me.
She stayed by me.
And I know when guys aretelling that story guys,
specifically, they think this iswhy I niggas stuck in telling
stories they think that they aresaying something complimentary
of that person.
They think that they think thatthey're saying, oh, how much I
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appreciate this woman, that shewould stay by my side.
She knew I was the only one forher.
In my opinion, they areportraying a person who was
without options.
They are portraying a personwho did not, at some point
during the course of thatjourney, think there's another
life I could be living, onewhere I chase my own dreams, one
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where I don't have to be poorwith this other person to chase
his dreams, and then when hegoes and does an interview, he's
not even going to say my name,like there's another path for me
outside of this person.
That's the.
That's the story that's notbeing told.
The story that's being told isI never would be able to stand
this high if I didn't have thisperson to hold my backup as I
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was moving forward toward it.
I and I and I don't think TerryCruz is trying to be an asshole.
I don't think that at all.
I think he's.
I think he seems like a reallynice person, but he doesn't
understand.
I don't think he understandshow it comes across as he's
telling the story Okay, but thisis my point of view.
The reason why those storiesoften don't come across the way
that I think people want them tois because, especially when
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it's a Hollywood story, there'sa beat that's coming that is so
predictable and it's sopredictable in the way this
person is being so grandizing oftheir partner, is being so over
the top, flowery, complimentary, um, calling her things that
are in some ways, not very human.
Like you know, he doesn't usethe term saint, but he presents
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her as a person who has justbeen such a pure and and um
potent supporter of his from thebeginning right.
There's a turning point thatcomes in each one of these
stories and you know it's coming, and it's the part where that
guy cheats on his wife and hetells us that part.
You know it's fucking coming.
You always know it.
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Every single one of thesefucking Hollywood stories,
sports stories, big time CEOstories, like whenever it starts
off with my wife, is soincredible.
We've been together so long.
She's held me down through allthese things.
You know that what's reallycoming.
The thing that she really heldyou down through is when you
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cheated, which he shares.
Okay, and generally the part ofthe story as it is in this
particular interview, where theperson divulges they're cheating
.
It comes with like it comeswith this, almost this tone of
like no-transcript, this tone oflike self-awareness, purity,
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groundedness, wisdom.
This is it's shared as almostsomething that that person went
through, like something thathappened to them.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's shared, as if likeit's shared.
Like the person got cancer andshe stayed with him through his
cancer but it was like no, hejust got some ass.
So he's sharing Whoa, that wasa voice crack, that was some.
(07:37):
That's all you know, I reallymean this shit.
He is sharing this story.
Now I'm nervous about my voicecracking again.
He's sharing, that was crazy.
He's sharing Like, oh my God, Ijust like I just ah, okay, he's
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telling this story and it'slike with the seriousness of a
heart attack, like it's likeShannon is like Shannon is like
nodding with his eyes closed,like yeah, man, that's really
deep bro, that's really thiswoman who held you down through
so much, bro, like yeah, I can'tbelieve, can't believe, can't
believe.
And he gets to the part, and hegets to this part that I know is
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supposed to be like theprofound point on the story,
right, which is that he himselfhad to unburden by telling her
what he had done, because andagain, it's like all this
unclely, parable wisdom, it'slike I didn't want to live a
double life.
I wanted to feel like onesingular person.
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I didn't want to have to, youknow, be one person here and one
person there, and whatever andwhatever.
And you know, I think she hadsuspicions, but she couldn't,
she didn't know anything forsure and I just didn't.
I just wanted to be clear, Ididn't want to live a double
life.
So I, it's so much, it's I, I,I, I, I, I.
And this is why I'm asking thequestion cheaters.
I am asking you, terry Crewsperson.
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He keeps talking about why hedid it for himself.
I needed to be unburdened, Ididn't want to live a double
life, so I told my wife what Idid, and since then we've been
closer than ever.
It is shared as a success story.
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It is shared as like I madethis sacrifice to unburden my
own pain and strain of livingwith this guilt by giving, by
sharing it with my wife, and nowwe are better than ever.
Right, it leaves and I'm I'mgenderifying it because,
oftentimes at least, when thestories come to light in this
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way, that is the man sitting inthis seat and a woman sitting in
this other seat, but it's notalways that.
Obviously, women are the twoways that cheating can happen in
combination.
Women cheat to women.
That's right, morgan.
Women can fucking cheat to damnit.
What was that thing?
You said that one time.
You're like women can be lazyslobs too.
(10:10):
Oh yeah, but okay, let me getback to the point, because I
really want to nail this shit.
I'm listening to that right inmy, in my, in my relationships
of recent adulthood, like as anadult adult like I have been
faithful Before.
(10:30):
That was a cheater straight upand I relate to and have felt
that twisting guilt, thatfeeling of you're never really
comfortable in your seat becauseyou're being a duplicitous
person, you're kind of, you'rekeeping stories straight, you're
always making up lies.
Like it sucks.
(10:50):
It's a really bad time.
It's obviously a bad time foryour partner because I do think
people can tell when someone isbeing dishonest with them.
I do think there's like we havea feeling sometimes, but it
also sucks for you as the persondoing the thing.
You think it's fun, like you'rechasing a high, of course, like
you want some ass, but alsolike you don't get to be clear,
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you don't get to be solid, youdon't.
There's something that happensthat is good.
When you feel completely clearand solid on your feet, you move
about the earth in a differentway, with a different sort of
confidence.
When you don't have that, youmove about the earth as a
slithering salamander andreleasing yourself of that
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feeling by telling your partnerwhat you did.
It's not like that feeling justgoes away.
You are now giving it toanother person.
Now the two of you have afucking secret.
Now the two of you have shame.
Now the two of you feel some.
Your partner now takes on somefeeling of probably, of guilt
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and anger and sadness and hurtand jealousy, maybe, and
distrust and all these otherfeelings that come with having
that shared with you.
You're not like I'm annoyed byI know I'm genderifying it, I'm
not even gonna do it, fuck it.
I'm annoyed by cheating peoplewho feel who want to take a
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victory lap when they tellsomebody, when they tell on
themselves to somebody.
Like I'm annoyed by people whowant to take a victory lap for
being honest in general, butparticularly when your honesty
is throwing a bag of shit tosomebody else to catch, and
that's what I saw here.
So it's like it's a triplewhammy and it's not about Terry
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Crews.
In fact, when we do the real,we're going to obviously show
Shannon and Terry Crews at thetop.
Then we're going to show onlywhite cheaters for the rest of
the video.
Okay, dead ass though, becausethat's what we're going to do.
But my point is how many timescan you slap somebody up Like
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you get?
You go outside, you get someass right.
That's a initial violation.
You went and indulged becauseof whatever you did it.
You were and you wereuntruthful about it.
That's number one.
That's first whammy.
Second whammy you take a 30pound bag of shit which is this
thing that you did and you tossit to your partner and now they
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have to hold it, or y'all got tohold it together, right.
So now they are also burdenedby what you've done.
Now you guys have to repair andfind trust again, or leave each
other, or whatever the fuck'sgoing to happen next.
Y'all got to do that togetherand your partner now has to deal
with it.
Then the third whammy, and thisis the one that I do think dudes
do more often than ladies.
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Then you go on TV and tellpeople about it, like, then you
go, try to take your victory lapfor being truthful, because
look how me and my wife, whostood by me through all these
things Look at this other thingshe stood by me through Not
being broke, not not having jobs, not moving around the country,
not chasing my own dreams, buton top of all that, this thing
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that I did to her.
She also stood by me throughthat, and that is somehow
supposed to be complimentary ofher.
That doesn't, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
It's not working, it doesn't,it's not.
And if I don't, if it's notworking for me, then it's not
working Like it's.
It's um, it's selfish.
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It's selfish, it's ego, it's.
It's like it's like it's likeit's there's an entitlement to
feeling clear, there's anentitlement to feeling
unburdened.
That is extremely selfish.
(15:01):
It's like if someone's gonnahave to hold the pain of this,
it ain't gonna be me.
What were his words exactly?
His words were um, I was tiredof what, what?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
did he say, oh, he was tired of, I didn't want to
live in a lie anymore?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I didn't want to live in a lie anymore.
Okay, okay, I mean like so.
So then, what?
So then you like, instead ofliving in a lie, instead you are
going to pull your wife intoyour circle of shame.
I don't, it's just, it's not.
It's not the act of like.
It is telling someone youcheated on them.
It's not the act of like,bravery and honesty that I think
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we have made ourselves think itis.
It's not the act of like,selflessness and giving and
caring about your partner Like.
It is about the person.
It is about the cheater, it isabout you.
Okay, that's pretty good.
Josh broke the rules while wewere listening to music break.
He, he, he asked a poignantquestion that's going to make us
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backtrack.
Morgan is forgiving us.
She's giving us 90 seconds.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And then 96 has already started.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Okay, sorry, sorry.
So we have 60 seconds, josh.
What was the question?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So in the reverse, would you rather know that
someone cheated on you or notknow someone cheated on you?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Here is my truth, here is my absolute truth about
knowing things that are going tomake me feel bad.
If I can truly actually neverknow, like, truly like, if it's
never going to hit my doorstepand that includes having to deal
with it in small ways, likeother people being weird or like
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, like if you could truly washit out of my life, I would
rather not know, and I and Iknow like, trust me, that's hard
for me to say and actuallystand on, but like, I think I
like, if you're going to do it,keep it all the way out of my
life.
Like, if you can keep itcompletely out of my life.
(17:02):
How many seconds do we have?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
27.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, what's your answer to that question?
I?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
what's it called?
I think I would rather.
That's a good question.
I wasn't expecting to come backto me.
You say my show, you say myshow.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Josh, you're 10 seconds.
How much time?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
we got 12.
Okay, I'd rather know, becauseI'm a glutton for punishment.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
What would you rather have?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I would rather know, because I would just I wouldn't
be able to deal with likesomething feeling amiss and not
knowing, like that would botherme.
So it's just like I don't carewhat it is like, tell me the
thing, and then I'd probablyregret knowing, but I wouldn't
be able to live the other wayeither.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's an excellent segue actually.
So, okay, it's an excellentsegue.
Okay, I have been annoyingMorgan because I keep bringing
up artificial intelligence andhow we can use it for the show.
Correct, yes, she says.
Yes, that's hilarious, why?
Okay, so what me and Morgan areabout to do is we're going to
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have like a team.
I don't think it's going to belike a lot of emotions.
I think I want to just likedump our brains out on this real
quick, okay, so, first of all,why is that so annoying to you?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Well, no, no, no, I'm not annoyed by, like the AI
thing.
The thing that like justdoesn't work is trying to use it
for the reels as if, likethat's going to make things
easier, when, when we alreadytried that and the way that we
do the reels is really likespecific and based off of like
(18:37):
how your brain works, that likeit's AI doesn't know you, so
like maybe eventually it wouldget there, but it's not.
It's not helpful for me withthe reels.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Okay, two things.
One is completely unrelated,which is we should.
For the next segment, can weset up TikTok live on my phone?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Oh, yeah, and just put it.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I don't know I can put it on the tripod or
something, yeah, but okay, mythought on that is like here's,
here's something that I need tojust say out loud to you, which
is like and I'm going to getbetter about prefacing these
things there are some thingsthat I am just bringing up as
like reminders of long termthinking for us, and there are
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obviously some things that areurgent.
This one feels more like a overtime, as we have more resources
and more whatever like this isprobably something we will want
to like, bake into our like,bake into our strategy.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I mean because I already use it for the podcast,
like with some of thedescriptions and the titles and
the timestamps, Cool.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, great, and like , as I'm playing with it and
stuff, I'm trying to figure outwhere the ways that we can
implement it and also like thetools are changing really fast.
That's the other thing.
So, like, even if there was nota tool that will work for us
three months ago, blah, blah,blah, there might be a tool that
works for us three months fromnow.
Okay, now I do want to talkabout emotions and AI.
Wait that?
(19:58):
That?
That concludes our team, unlessyou have anything else to say
about it.
Okay, cool.
So all right, let's talk aboutartificial intelligence.
So I watched the Tyler Perrydocumentary.
This is only related to TylerPerry in that he I think he's
like the first.
He's an interesting person as astudio head because he also has
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a brand as a creative that hestands in front of.
And in fact, now that I'mthinking about this, people
recently have been asking me whoare you pattern matching to?
Who do you wanna be like?
And I've recently been sayinglike I wanna be like a way
cooler, more creative blackversion of Gary Vee.
But I think there are somethings I wanna take from Tyler
(20:48):
Perry's basket as well, but whenyou say the name Tyler Perry,
it comes with such a connotationthat it really no matter how
the person thinks of Tyler Perrylike, it evokes a strong
feeling in them.
Some people it evokes a strongfeeling of distaste.
Some people think Tyler Perryis selling something that's not
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good to black people and sellingit en masse to black people and
making it without the help ofenough black people.
Other people business a lot ofbusiness people see Tyler Perry
as like a major North Starsuccess story of what a creative
can do with the right type ofbusiness sense and drive and
hunger.
I see both of those things.
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I the both of those affect myTyler Perry sensibilities.
I'm not gonna over talk theTyler Perry thing, but he
recently said that he is haltingor slowing his $800 million
studio expansion because he hasbeen learning with the AI tools
and I imagine he has people onhis teams who are learning with
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the AI tools.
He's finding ways that he'sgonna be able to shoot, for
example, giant scenes and giantscenery in backdrops by using AI
scripts.
Everywhere I turn right nowsomebody wants to talk to me
about artificial intelligence,whether it's talk to me about
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how I need to be using it andhow I should be thinking about
what it can do for us, or mymore artistic friends wanna talk
like there's a fear, there's asadness, there's like a as Leon
put it yesterday.
He was like this feels like aget down or lay down moment.
Like I gotta, like we aswriters, as creatives, whatever
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we gotta either learn how to usethis thing or we're gonna be
toast.
Like that's what the feeling isright now and what I personally
feel is every second that Ispend being sad about AI and
(22:58):
what it might do to creativepeople it puts.
I personally, you know what'sboring talking to people about
how much they should be learningto use AI.
Like that's easy, it's beensaid, we know it.
We know what we know it.
Let's talk about what it'sgonna take to open up ourselves,
to even be able and willing todo that.
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For me, the answer is it'stwofold.
One thing is just fuckingurgency Like.
One thing is like I got a lotof shit to get done all the time
and if robots can help me forcheap, like I am in the class of
people that need that help forthe low, and I'm also in the
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class of people who, if whatthey give me back is does not
meet my standard the robots,then like I'm either going to
tweak it until it meets thestandard or I'm not gonna give
it to you all, like I'm notgonna start pumping out bullshit
that robots give me.
Also and I wanna be super clearabout this I don't know if I'm
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ever like, when it actuallycomes to writing as product,
like writing my books, writingmy, even my captions, right,
like I like to think that mywriting is too much a personal
appendage of me, that I don'tknow if I'm ever gonna trust AI
to like be predictive on how Icommunicate in writing.
Like writing is feels like myconnection to you all.
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That is like so sturdy that Idon't really want any other.
I don't want anything else inthe middle there.
So there's urgency.
And then there's another part,which is like survival in
evolution.
Dude, I don't think I'm gonnahave a stomach to watch another
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technological evolution andrevolution happen where, in fact
, the tools are available.
This is how I feel about socialmedia right now, where the
tools are so easy, like so easyto access and cheap and
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available to all of us.
I don't think I'm gonna be ableto stomach watching white
people rise to the top of thatagain and I just watch.
And I just watch because I'm sofucking sad about being.
I'm so sad because I'm such anartist and like I just aren't
supposed to be made by peopleLike I just don't think I can do
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it, I don't think I can stomachthat.
I feel too competitive as aperson in that particular way.
I don't think I can just Ican't watch Hollywood as it is,
have a complete revolution withthis technology and the
leadership of it.
Look exactly like Hollywoodlooked when you needed a fucking
$800 million studio lot to goshoot some shit.
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I just can't, I just don'tthink I can take it.
And you know what?
I can take it if I try and itstill happens.
I can take it like if Iactually put my foot in it and
it doesn't work out.
Morgan, well, actually I called.
Why are you laughing?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You're just the one, you and that wand.
I wish the podcast people couldsee the fucking wand.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Well then they should watch on YouTube Live and they
should watch our reels, becauseit's gonna be in there Do?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
you like it?
No, it's fun, okay, I thinkit's really fun.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I feel like Mickey Mouse in the Sorcerer's
Apprentice.
Okay, so I called my friend I'mgonna call him my executive
advisor the other day because Ithink that's the title that he
feels good about.
I called him the other day.
I said hey, I made this like82nd or 72nd video.
(26:54):
I put into the thingamabob ordid I already talk about this on
the show.
I put into the to the.
You mean the image.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yes, it was a video generate.
I talked about it already.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, I said make me, I wanna see a video where a
black man with dreadlockstransforms into a jellyfish.
That's what I asked it for andit gave me this video.
That was like weird as shit.
But I called my friend to sayto him.
I said what do you think isgonna happen?
How do you think my audiencewill respond if I put this video
(27:28):
out, if I put this on myInstagram?
And it's honestly so funny that, like the way I now think about
my Instagram, I'm like treatingit as if it is like a giant
football stadium full of people,basically.
But I was like how do you thinkit will feel if I give this to
the people on my Instagram?
And he's like I don't know.
(27:49):
But he said it's worth testingby asking them how are they
going to feel?
So I went to, I go to stories.
I say, hey, I'm experimentingwith AI.
How will you guys feel if Istart sharing some of the stuff
I'm experimenting with on myInstagram?
And I wanna say, like 85% ofthe people said, or I said do
you want me to share what I'mexperimenting with on my
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Instagram?
That 85% of the people said yes.
So I said great, I sat down andI wrote out this long ass
caption about it and I put itout there and what I told myself
was as long as I'm being honestwith people and super open
about how I'm using these tools,I think people will feel safe
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to come along for the ride.
And then Morgan sent me todaysomething that was reassuring in
that vein, which was Morgan,can you read me that thing that
you sent me?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It was a new study by Yahoo and publicist media shows
that transparency will go along way towards closing the gap
between consumers andadvertisers when it comes to AI.
The study Trust ThroughTransparency the future of AI
and advertising pulled that1,200 consumers and over 350 US
advertisers, finding that 77% ofadvertisers UAI positively, but
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only 38% of consumers sharethat sentiment.
The brands can build trustthrough transparency.
The study showed that AIgenerated ads with noticed
disclosures increases brandperceptions and caused a 47%
lift in ad appeal, a 73% rise inad trustworthiness and a 96%
increase in overall trust forthe company.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So here's what I took that to mean.
I actually can read, I readthat and I understood it and I'm
like it's so nice to be able toread something and understand.
What I took that to mean isthis and it's going to be basic
and it's going to be such aalready know.
But let me just say it out loudto make the point Advertisers
(29:53):
people who spend literallymillions of dollars to create
content that will help drive youall to click things, buy things
, go to things, attend thingsthose people are excited about
these tools that will allow themto make those things a lot
cheaper.
To cut out people like thepeople sitting in this room, who
(30:15):
will usually charge themthousands of dollars or, in some
cases, hundreds of thousanddollars to produce those things.
They are happy that they willnot necessarily have to work
with us human beings anymore tomake that shit.
They will have some person onstaff who is like the AI content
generator, chief of chief of AIcontent generation.
They'll have two or threepeople underneath them who
(30:37):
really understand well how toput a script into an AI
generator that returns what youwant.
They'll tweak, tweak, tweak,tweak until they get it how they
want it and they'll shoot itoff.
They'll send out a hundred ofthose things and the ones that
are returning or that arematriculating enough people from
their audience to the productthey want to sell, those ones,
they will continue to spendmoney to advertise, to, like,
(30:58):
push into the advertisingchannels such as Instagram,
twitter, youtube, tiktok, etc.
That's almost the exact samething we're doing with the reels
, except with robots making thecontent.
The advertisers, of course, areexcited about that.
On the other side, the consumerless so, and I actually want to
(31:24):
spend like two seconds righthere thinking about why is the
consumer less so?
Like?
Why is the consumer lesscomfortable, less trusting of
the advertisers, to use thosetools in that way?
I think one is that, like youknow, this is going to be a
(31:46):
weird example, but I think it'sgoing to make sense.
I don't think there's anyreason today.
This is smart.
I like Chad.
This is a good one.
This wand is giving mebrilliance.
Okay, I don't think there's anyreason why we actually have to
have human beings working atMcDonald's anymore.
I think the reason I'm notsaying any moral reason.
(32:09):
I'm saying I don't thinkMcDonald's has a reason why they
need human beings handing you abag with your Happy Meal in it.
I think the reason why that isthe case is because human beings
want to see that another humanbeing was a part of the process
of like.
We are trusting that ifsomething terrible or gross or
poisonous is happening in thatrestaurant that a human will see
(32:31):
it, will notice it and will belike I cannot serve this to you.
This is I can't.
I just saw a Roach walk acrossthis.
I cannot morally hand this toanother human being and with
robots we do not have that trust.
I think the same is so for ourcontent.
I think people want to believethat if there is a nefarious,
(32:53):
even if it tests well, even ifit's good enough to make us buy
something, we want to believethat a human being somewhere in
the creative process, in themarketing channel process, in
the distribution process,someone will halt the breaks and
be like, wait a second, that'spoison, like, don't distribute
that.
And when the robots take overthe creativity process, we don't
(33:16):
have that anymore.
Disney likely, I think likely tobe bought by Apple or Amazon If
and when that happens.
I saw I was listening tosomething two days ago that said
Wall Street is poking at Disneybecause they're like if Disney
wants to be taken serious as atech company, then they need to
dot, dot, dot, they need toembrace AI.
Disney's not supposed to be atech company.
(33:38):
Disney is supposed to be acreative factory, but it is a
tech company now and it wants tobe, I think, bought by tech
companies.
And those tech companies, themoment that they have the
handles on Disney, are going tosay how can we make this process
as seamless as possible andstick some robots in where we
have human beings sitting there,and at that point the robots
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will truly be the ones speakingand talking directly to your
children, and there won't be ahuman being saying is this okay
for kids to watch?
And that's already happening inlarge part.
But we like the idea thatthere's a person somewhere
around there who can, like aperson somewhere who will be
like this one is dangerous forkids.
(34:23):
I know the data saying it's OK,but something here just doesn't
feel right.
And so where that leaves mewith AI is it feels inevitable.
It feels inevitable that somecomputer is going to run a
thousand different versions ofteletubbies, distribute them all
(34:45):
instantly and measure how manyof your kids' eyeballs are
staring at the screen and howmany of them are leaving.
That's already.
I want to tell you all that'salready happening.
But because I know that'sinevitable, like I want to get
on the right side of the control, switch on this thing.
Like that's, that's what I want.
(35:05):
I don't, I'm not going to trustanother swath of 10 white
billionaires deciding, like,what we're going to do with AI.
Like I want to see some othertypes of people with their hands
on the controls.
All right, that's it.
I am about to embark on, I'mabout to embark on a journey
(35:26):
into the abyss.
Ok, ok, ok.
I am about to embark on achallenge to myself to respond
to every comment on my Instagramfrom the last two months.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Every comment every comment.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I love this challenge .
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I know you do?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I love this challenge .
This is so good for manyreasons.
Okay, both business wise andentertainment wise.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Value will be there the entertainment by behind.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Okay, um, let's take all right, morgan.
What do you predict will be theoutcome of this journey?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Um, I predict that you'll get in maybe like 10
Online spats, like going backand forth, and maybe like get
somewhat of a cult's followinglike.
Well, people like willappreciate your, your
willingness to like try tochange people's minds.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Maybe, interesting or you'll change one person's mind
cult sounds fun.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I like it.
Okay, all right, josh.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
You're gonna get a lot more Listeners and people
tuning in and you're gonna get alot more people following you
from it.
I think that's that's that'smostly why I'm excited that
you're gonna do this.
And then, secondly, yeah, Ijust look forward to seeing the
mess that happens.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
How do you think it will affect me emotionally?
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Um a lot Cuz you're sensitive.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
What ways in particular?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
um, you're gonna be.
It's a god.
I think it'll make you reallyhappy at times.
I think it'll be making reallysad at times.
No, I doubt it'll make you thatAngry.
I think it'll make you feelfeel very hyped to get in front
of the mic.
Sometimes I think we're gonnaget a full cornucopia of Chad.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
That's what I predict .
Okay, morgan John, how do youthink it will affect me?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I think it's gonna be very draining for you and we'll
make you probably a little sad,because Josh is right, you are
sensitive, but in the best way,but um, but then I think also,
maybe you'll make a friend, likeyou'll make a couple friends.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Okay, I mean I don't be in there like that.
I mean on it.
I mean, do you look at mycomments?
Yeah on a scale of, like youknow, kind and harmless, to like
totally eviscerating and meanhow far does it go on the scale?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I would say like you got five.
Okay, yeah, no one's are likehe has weird, he's a weird face.
Nobody's like saying no one'sattacking you like as a person.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, it's all about your like opinions.
At least I think I haven't seenanything.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I I've been feeling pretty excited about embarking
on this journey because I I likethe interaction on the stories,
with the questions, and I Seehow they have like I can.
I feel I feel like a communitybuilding and I'm like okay, now,
now that these people who likeme are talking to me, I want to
(38:35):
go talk to the people who aremean, but I know they're not all
mean like Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I mean it's just like disagreeing with you right.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I think, yeah, I think, and I think what I have
noticed when I, when I peak, islike it never seems like anyone
is saying anything.
I'm, with a few exceptions,with a finger bots.
It never looks like anyonesaying anything.
That is completely off base.
I think the way that peoplecommunicate disagreement on the
internet is really tragic.
(39:05):
Like the tone is so tragic.
It's like, you know, it's likefor the one that's about by
racial average, by racial peoplein advertisements.
It's like someone will jump inand be like well, who the fuck
cares what white people think?
And I'm like, okay, well, ifyou put it like that, I guess
that's the end of theconversation.
Like I guess there's nothingelse to talk about here, but I
(39:27):
I'm interested to see what itfeels a little bit like product
development, you know, likegoing in and like talking to
your users, kind of, and like Ido help it, I hope it will grow,
help us grow faster, I hope.
I hope it will make more peoplefollow and tune in.
It should.
I think it will.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I think it has to.
I love I, even from people Iknow.
I love when I get a like on mycomment.
Like, if I like comment onsomeone's thing and then they
like it, it's like oh, like yousaw it, like you know, like you
see me.
It even means more coming fromlike someone you don't know or
someone you might admire.
Um, so you going further thanthat and commenting back is
(40:10):
gonna be Nice for people.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
When you say you think I'll make a friend.
Yeah, what sort of friend, doyou mean Morgan?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Like a regular, like a, like an online friend.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Interesting a pen that's very Gen?
Z of you.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
There are online friends.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yes, okay, um, did the AI guy get back to us?
No, what the fuck.
I think.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I don't know, maybe he's just one of our data.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, bastard, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I'm not data.
I gave him my data somehow,probably yeah, damn.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, okay, fair enough.
Um, all right, I got fiveminutes here.
Morgan, which one of thesethings do you want to talk about
?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
The Trump sneakers.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
All right, the Trump sneakers so crazy.
Donald Trump, what do you doagain?
Hold on Sneakers, cuz he didsome other crazy shit recently.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
He on Fox News talking toRaymond Arroyo.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
No, raymond Arroyo is the Trump wasn't on the news.
They were just talking abouthis sneakers.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Oh, yeah, raymond Arroyo, I'm sorry, this is
excellent reporting by me.
Raymond Arroyo Arroyo on FoxNews Said to said of Donald
Trump that black people, heresonates with us because we
love his sneakers.
Yes, um, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
You want to play that clip?
Speaker 1 (41:34):
No, I don't because, because, because we only have a
couple minutes and this is, thisis and it's, it's.
It was like a While ago.
At this point, like people haveprobably heard it, here's what
I want to say, because I alsoheard Donald Trump say to a
large group he was at like theblack conservative Something or
other group, and he was sayinghow like he's been persecuted
(41:55):
and he knows that we Feel him onthat because we've been
persecuted.
I was out last night andSomeone asked me a question
about how, how black people areable to, how, being black and
being afraid, like fear, howlike fear of things that can
(42:19):
happen to us as black people inreal life.
How does that affect our work?
And, being honest, I thought itwas a I Don't know what the
right word is.
Without being overly blunt, Idon't want to offend this person
, but I thought it was a badquestion.
I think any question about thattakes a group of 30 million
(42:42):
people and Ames to try to likeblock us all in as one thing is
a bad question.
Like human beings Relate tofear differently, like some
people, fear makes them feelbolder.
Some people fear makes themfeel Sheepish.
Some people fear makes themfeel excited or exhilarated,
like.
We all have different responsesto fear, so I can't say how
(43:04):
fear affects black people atwork this kind of dumb-ass shit
about sneakers and, like I am atthe current moment, I think
honestly, from being in dialoguewith so many White people who
(43:26):
have come over to my platformfrom other stuff I've worked on,
I'll just say Frustrated it'snot even the word.
I'm, I'm, I'm actually.
I am noticing how little nuancethere is in the way that people
distinguish Between us, likehow little nuance there is in
(43:51):
the understanding of how manydifferent types of black people
there are.
There are three extremelydifferent types of black people
in this room right now and I andI think to the eye that is
Unintelligent, ignorant and notdiscerning.
You look to just like I Don'tthink anybody in here has on
like super fancy new sneakers.
You know what I mean.
(44:11):
You look to like paint us allwith one brush.
Somebody asked me on, somebodyasked me on Instagram.
Do you see yourself ending upwith a black woman, a white
woman or neither, and Even likea question like that?
It's so.
It's like so beside the pointof my humanity and of like that
(44:34):
woman's humanity.
If you know what I mean.
It's like I Don't know I'msingle, like I don't know who
the fuck I'm gonna end up with.
Like and I'm and I'm not like.
Um, you're asking me to try topredict a decision Using
extremely primary colors andbasic building blocks, and
that's because, like you don'tsee me as anything with detail,
(44:57):
like you don't see me assomething that is, um, that is
nuance and subtle and and likechanging and shifting and all
these other things, um, so thatsneaker shit, like that's the
extremely dumb shit that is justlike a part of everyday life
for us, which is the thing wherethey're like oh man and I know
(45:21):
I'm generalizing too, but likeit happens all the time.
It's like Morgan, I think we'vetalked about this.
It's like, oh, you're gonnalove my friend Trampilla quan.
Like You're gonna loveTrampilla quan so much he's
really, um, he's so smart, Imean, he's really articulate,
like he's kind of like you, likehe's he's just so cool, you
know, like he's just you'regonna love him 99 times out of
(45:44):
100.
Also, by the way, when you meetthat person, they suck.
They always suck like that up.
That other black friend isalways a terrible hang like.
So, actually, I just want to,because I y'all can hear me.
I Will not like your otherblack friend.
Don't introduce us, not connectus.
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I will not hang up, I will notpick up the phone, I will not
text back, I won't like them.
Okay, that's it.
Thank you, this has beennothing anarchy.
We'll see y'all on Tuesday atnoon.
And what do we want them to doanything?
Oh, I have a creative workshopfor aspiring writers, podcasters
(46:27):
, tv writers, anybody who has acreative project that feels
stuck and wants to get theirthing Unstuck.
I have a creative workshop onWednesday, march 6, next week.
You can find you can sign up atthe link on my Instagram.
It's in my bio.
See y'all in the comments.
Goodbye.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
You.
Alright, hi, this is another banana key.
I brought a magic wand todaybecause I wore this shirt.
We're going to start having thebook here.
This is the last hardcover bookI have with an action with this
on it.
I've taken this off of all ofthem.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay, why.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
I just think it looks better without it.
It's a long story.
I mean, that's it.
That's the short story, it's along story.
That's the truth, okay, yeah,that's not the point of this
moment, though, this moment,alright, so I'm gonna jump right
in and I'm going to.
We're going to start with thereel that's going to come out of
this one.
So, cheaters, when you tellyour partner that you have
(00:51):
cheated, why do you do that?
Cheaters, who confess to theircheating why do you confess?
Why do you tell your personthat you've cheated on them?
I'm asking that questionbecause I was watching Terry
Crews on Club Shea Shea and thishas now become a Club Shea Shea
(01:15):
review podcast.
It really has it's kind offunny.
That's what the whole podcastingsphere has become.
But I was watching Terry Crewson Club Shea Shea and as usual
it is a fantastic interview.
Shannon Sharp is great at thisand I think part of being great
at this is just he gets theright guess at the right time.
Who has something to say and hegets out of the way, like he
(01:38):
gives them the right rope tokeep going and he gets out of
the way and he lets them go andthey don't feel judged.
But I'm asking cheaters.
I'm asking why and by cheatersI mean anyone who has cheated,
which is basically everybodythose of you who tell your
(02:02):
person, who reveal to yourperson later, not because they
caught you in something, notbecause they went through your
shit and found something, notbecause they heard it through
the grapevine, not because afriend told them, not because
they had a feeling, whatever.
The people who confess to yourcheating, the people who mess
around with somebody, go on atrip and do some shit, mess with
(02:25):
the coworker, you know, go on asite for a production and have
a girlfriend or a boyfriend onsite, whatever it is when you
come clean, quote unquote.
Why do you do that, I'm asking?
Okay, terry Cruz goes on club.
(02:46):
She's a.
From the beginning of theinterview, like literally from
the first five minutes of thisinterview, terry Cruz is making
a point to tell Shannon Sharpthat his wife of I believe he
says 34 years has been TerryCruz 55.
So they got.
They got married when he was inhis early twenties, like 21, 22
(03:08):
.
He's telling Shannon Sharp overand over again how this woman
has been like a saint to him.
She's been by his side, behindhim through this entire ride.
Every time he talks about anopportunity, going to the NFL,
getting his first acting job,getting his TV hosting jobs,
whatever he says we, we, we, we,we it's all about we, us, it's
us, me and this woman.
This is my person, my partner.
(03:30):
He never says her name but hekeeps saying this is my person.
She's been down for me from thebeginning and I'm going to be
honest when guys tell storieslike this, guys specifically,
and they make a point to speakto how their lady has been down
(03:50):
for them through, you know, oh,we were broke together.
Oh, we moved from here to heretogether.
Oh, I couldn't give heranything.
I couldn't offer her anythingbut my love, and she stayed by
my side and I made.
I had to.
You know, we spent 15 yearsbeing broke and I wouldn't get a
job because I had to focus onmy dream and she stayed by me.
(04:10):
She stayed by me.
She stayed by me.
And I know when guys aretelling that story guys,
specifically, they think this iswhy I niggas stuck in telling
stories they think that they aresaying something complimentary
of that person.
They think that they think thatthey're saying, oh, how much I
(04:32):
appreciate this woman, that shewould stay by my side.
She knew I was the only one forher.
In my opinion, they areportraying a person who was
without options.
They are portraying a personwho did not, at some point
during the course of thatjourney, think there's another
life I could be living, onewhere I chase my own dreams, one
(04:56):
where I don't have to be poorwith this other person to chase
his dreams, and then when hegoes and does an interview, he's
not even going to say my name,like there's another path for me
outside of this person.
That's the.
That's the story that's notbeing told.
The story that's being told isI never would be able to stand
this high if I didn't have thisperson to hold my backup as I
(05:20):
was moving forward toward it.
I and I and I don't think TerryCruz is trying to be an asshole.
I don't think that at all.
I think he's.
I think he seems like a reallynice person, but he doesn't
understand.
I don't think he understandshow it comes across as he's
telling the story Okay, but thisis my point of view.
The reason why those storiesoften don't come across the way
that I think people want them tois because, especially when
(05:43):
it's a Hollywood story, there'sa beat that's coming that is so
predictable and it's sopredictable in the way this
person is being so grandizing oftheir partner, is being so over
the top, flowery, complimentary, um, calling her things that
are in some ways, not very human.
Like you know, he doesn't usethe term saint, but he presents
(06:05):
her as a person who has justbeen such a pure and and um
potent supporter of his from thebeginning right.
There's a turning point thatcomes in each one of these
stories and you know it's coming, and it's the part where that
guy cheats on his wife and hetells us that part.
You know it's fucking coming.
You always know it.
(06:26):
Every single one of thesefucking Hollywood stories,
sports stories, big time CEOstories, like whenever it starts
off with my wife, is soincredible.
We've been together so long.
She's held me down through allthese things.
You know that what's reallycoming.
The thing that she really heldyou down through is when you
(06:47):
cheated, which he shares.
Okay, and generally the part ofthe story as it is in this
particular interview, where theperson divulges they're cheating
.
It comes with like it comeswith this, almost this tone of
like no-transcript, this tone oflike self-awareness, purity,
(07:13):
groundedness, wisdom.
This is it's shared as almostsomething that that person went
through, like something thathappened to them.
You know what I'm saying?
Like it's shared, as if likeit's shared.
Like the person got cancer andshe stayed with him through his
cancer but it was like no, hejust got some ass.
So he's sharing Whoa, that wasa voice crack, that was some.
(07:37):
That's all you know, I reallymean this shit.
He is sharing this story.
Now I'm nervous about my voicecracking again.
He's sharing, that was crazy.
He's sharing Like, oh my God, Ijust like I just ah, okay, he's
(08:01):
telling this story and it'slike with the seriousness of a
heart attack, like it's likeShannon is like Shannon is like
nodding with his eyes closed,like yeah, man, that's really
deep bro, that's really thiswoman who held you down through
so much, bro, like yeah, I can'tbelieve, can't believe, can't
believe.
And he gets to the part, and hegets to this part that I know is
(08:22):
supposed to be like theprofound point on the story,
right, which is that he himselfhad to unburden by telling her
what he had done, because andagain, it's like all this
unclely, parable wisdom, it'slike I didn't want to live a
double life.
I wanted to feel like onesingular person.
(08:43):
I didn't want to have to, youknow, be one person here and one
person there, and whatever andwhatever.
And you know, I think she hadsuspicions, but she couldn't,
she didn't know anything forsure and I just didn't.
I just wanted to be clear, Ididn't want to live a double
life.
So I, it's so much, it's I, I,I, I, I, I.
And this is why I'm asking thequestion cheaters.
I am asking you, terry Crewsperson.
(09:06):
He keeps talking about why hedid it for himself.
I needed to be unburdened, Ididn't want to live a double
life, so I told my wife what Idid, and since then we've been
closer than ever.
It is shared as a success story.
(09:27):
It is shared as like I madethis sacrifice to unburden my
own pain and strain of livingwith this guilt by giving, by
sharing it with my wife, and nowwe are better than ever.
Right, it leaves and I'm I'mgenderifying it because,
oftentimes at least, when thestories come to light in this
(09:50):
way, that is the man sitting inthis seat and a woman sitting in
this other seat, but it's notalways that.
Obviously, women are the twoways that cheating can happen in
combination.
Women cheat to women.
That's right, morgan.
Women can fucking cheat to damnit.
What was that thing?
You said that one time.
You're like women can be lazyslobs too.
(10:10):
Oh yeah, but okay, let me getback to the point, because I
really want to nail this shit.
I'm listening to that right inmy, in my, in my relationships
of recent adulthood, like as anadult adult like I have been
faithful Before.
(10:30):
That was a cheater straight upand I relate to and have felt
that twisting guilt, thatfeeling of you're never really
comfortable in your seat becauseyou're being a duplicitous
person, you're kind of, you'rekeeping stories straight, you're
always making up lies.
Like it sucks.
(10:50):
It's a really bad time.
It's obviously a bad time foryour partner because I do think
people can tell when someone isbeing dishonest with them.
I do think there's like we havea feeling sometimes, but it
also sucks for you as the persondoing the thing.
You think it's fun, like you'rechasing a high, of course, like
you want some ass, but alsolike you don't get to be clear,
(11:13):
you don't get to be solid, youdon't.
There's something that happensthat is good.
When you feel completely clearand solid on your feet, you move
about the earth in a differentway, with a different sort of
confidence.
When you don't have that, youmove about the earth as a
slithering salamander andreleasing yourself of that
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feeling by telling your partnerwhat you did.
It's not like that feeling justgoes away.
You are now giving it toanother person.
Now the two of you have afucking secret.
Now the two of you have shame.
Now the two of you feel some.
Your partner now takes on somefeeling of probably, of guilt
(11:55):
and anger and sadness and hurtand jealousy, maybe, and
distrust and all these otherfeelings that come with having
that shared with you.
You're not like I'm annoyed byI know I'm genderifying it, I'm
not even gonna do it, fuck it.
I'm annoyed by cheating peoplewho feel who want to take a
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victory lap when they tellsomebody, when they tell on
themselves to somebody.
Like I'm annoyed by people whowant to take a victory lap for
being honest in general, butparticularly when your honesty
is throwing a bag of shit tosomebody else to catch, and
that's what I saw here.
So it's like it's a triplewhammy and it's not about Terry
(12:48):
Crews.
In fact, when we do the real,we're going to obviously show
Shannon and Terry Crews at thetop.
Then we're going to show onlywhite cheaters for the rest of
the video.
Okay, dead ass though, becausethat's what we're going to do.
But my point is how many timescan you slap somebody up Like
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you get?
You go outside, you get someass right.
That's a initial violation.
You went and indulged becauseof whatever you did it.
You were and you wereuntruthful about it.
That's number one.
That's first whammy.
Second whammy you take a 30pound bag of shit which is this
thing that you did and you tossit to your partner and now they
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have to hold it, or y'all got tohold it together, right.
So now they are also burdenedby what you've done.
Now you guys have to repair andfind trust again, or leave each
other, or whatever the fuck'sgoing to happen next.
Y'all got to do that togetherand your partner now has to deal
with it.
Then the third whammy, and thisis the one that I do think dudes
do more often than ladies.
(13:54):
Then you go on TV and tellpeople about it, like, then you
go, try to take your victory lapfor being truthful, because
look how me and my wife, whostood by me through all these
things Look at this other thingshe stood by me through Not
being broke, not not having jobs, not moving around the country,
not chasing my own dreams, buton top of all that, this thing
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that I did to her.
She also stood by me throughthat, and that is somehow
supposed to be complimentary ofher.
That doesn't, it doesn't.
No, it doesn't.
It's not working, it doesn't,it's not.
And if I don't, if it's notworking for me, then it's not
working Like it's.
It's um, it's selfish.
(14:41):
It's selfish, it's ego, it's.
It's like it's like it's likeit's there's an entitlement to
feeling clear, there's anentitlement to feeling
unburdened.
That is extremely selfish.
(15:01):
It's like if someone's gonnahave to hold the pain of this,
it ain't gonna be me.
What were his words exactly?
His words were um, I was tiredof what, what?
Speaker 2 (15:14):
did he say, oh, he was tired of, I didn't want to
live in a lie anymore?
Speaker 1 (15:18):
I didn't want to live in a lie anymore.
Okay, okay, I mean like so.
So then, what?
So then you like, instead ofliving in a lie, instead you are
going to pull your wife intoyour circle of shame.
I don't, it's just, it's not.
It's not the act of like.
It is telling someone youcheated on them.
It's not the act of like,bravery and honesty that I think
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we have made ourselves think itis.
It's not the act of like,selflessness and giving and
caring about your partner Like.
It is about the person.
It is about the cheater, it isabout you.
Okay, that's pretty good.
Josh broke the rules while wewere listening to music break.
He, he, he asked a poignantquestion that's going to make us
(16:05):
backtrack.
Morgan is forgiving us.
She's giving us 90 seconds.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And then 96 has already started.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Okay, sorry, sorry.
So we have 60 seconds, josh.
What was the question?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
So in the reverse, would you rather know that
someone cheated on you or notknow someone cheated on you?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Here is my truth, here is my absolute truth about
knowing things that are going tomake me feel bad.
If I can truly actually neverknow, like, truly like, if it's
never going to hit my doorstepand that includes having to deal
with it in small ways, likeother people being weird or like
(16:42):
, like if you could truly washit out of my life, I would
rather not know, and I and Iknow like, trust me, that's hard
for me to say and actuallystand on, but like, I think I
like, if you're going to do it,keep it all the way out of my
life.
Like, if you can keep itcompletely out of my life.
(17:02):
How many seconds do we have?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
27.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Okay, what's your answer to that question?
I?
Speaker 3 (17:06):
what's it called?
I think I would rather.
That's a good question.
I wasn't expecting to come backto me.
You say my show, you say myshow.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Josh, you're 10 seconds.
How much time?
Speaker 3 (17:17):
we got 12.
Okay, I'd rather know, becauseI'm a glutton for punishment.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
What would you rather have?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I would rather know, because I would just I wouldn't
be able to deal with likesomething feeling amiss and not
knowing, like that would botherme.
So it's just like I don't carewhat it is like, tell me the
thing, and then I'd probablyregret knowing, but I wouldn't
be able to live the other wayeither.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's an excellent segue actually.
So, okay, it's an excellentsegue.
Okay, I have been annoyingMorgan because I keep bringing
up artificial intelligence andhow we can use it for the show.
Correct, yes, she says.
Yes, that's hilarious, why?
Okay, so what me and Morgan areabout to do is we're going to
(18:03):
have like a team.
I don't think it's going to belike a lot of emotions.
I think I want to just likedump our brains out on this real
quick, okay, so, first of all,why is that so annoying to you?
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Well, no, no, no, I'm not annoyed by, like the AI
thing.
The thing that like justdoesn't work is trying to use it
for the reels as if, likethat's going to make things
easier, when, when we alreadytried that and the way that we
do the reels is really likespecific and based off of like
(18:37):
how your brain works, that likeit's AI doesn't know you, so
like maybe eventually it wouldget there, but it's not.
It's not helpful for me withthe reels.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Okay, two things.
One is completely unrelated,which is we should.
For the next segment, can weset up TikTok live on my phone?
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Oh, yeah, and just put it.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I don't know I can put it on the tripod or
something, yeah, but okay, mythought on that is like here's,
here's something that I need tojust say out loud to you, which
is like and I'm going to getbetter about prefacing these
things there are some thingsthat I am just bringing up as
like reminders of long termthinking for us, and there are
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obviously some things that areurgent.
This one feels more like a overtime, as we have more resources
and more whatever like this isprobably something we will want
to like, bake into our like,bake into our strategy.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
I mean because I already use it for the podcast,
like with some of thedescriptions and the titles and
the timestamps, Cool.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Yeah, great, and like , as I'm playing with it and
stuff, I'm trying to figure outwhere the ways that we can
implement it and also like thetools are changing really fast.
That's the other thing.
So, like, even if there was nota tool that will work for us
three months ago, blah, blah,blah, there might be a tool that
works for us three months fromnow.
Okay, now I do want to talkabout emotions and AI.
Wait that?
(19:58):
That?
That concludes our team, unlessyou have anything else to say
about it.
Okay, cool.
So all right, let's talk aboutartificial intelligence.
So I watched the Tyler Perrydocumentary.
This is only related to TylerPerry in that he I think he's
like the first.
He's an interesting person as astudio head because he also has
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a brand as a creative that hestands in front of.
And in fact, now that I'mthinking about this, people
recently have been asking me whoare you pattern matching to?
Who do you wanna be like?
And I've recently been sayinglike I wanna be like a way
cooler, more creative blackversion of Gary Vee.
But I think there are somethings I wanna take from Tyler
(20:48):
Perry's basket as well, but whenyou say the name Tyler Perry,
it comes with such a connotationthat it really no matter how
the person thinks of Tyler Perrylike, it evokes a strong
feeling in them.
Some people it evokes a strongfeeling of distaste.
Some people think Tyler Perryis selling something that's not
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good to black people and sellingit en masse to black people and
making it without the help ofenough black people.
Other people business a lot ofbusiness people see Tyler Perry
as like a major North Starsuccess story of what a creative
can do with the right type ofbusiness sense and drive and
hunger.
I see both of those things.
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I the both of those affect myTyler Perry sensibilities.
I'm not gonna over talk theTyler Perry thing, but he
recently said that he is haltingor slowing his $800 million
studio expansion because he hasbeen learning with the AI tools
and I imagine he has people onhis teams who are learning with
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the AI tools.
He's finding ways that he'sgonna be able to shoot, for
example, giant scenes and giantscenery in backdrops by using AI
scripts.
Everywhere I turn right nowsomebody wants to talk to me
about artificial intelligence,whether it's talk to me about
(22:16):
how I need to be using it andhow I should be thinking about
what it can do for us, or mymore artistic friends wanna talk
like there's a fear, there's asadness, there's like a as Leon
put it yesterday.
He was like this feels like aget down or lay down moment.
Like I gotta, like we aswriters, as creatives, whatever
(22:36):
we gotta either learn how to usethis thing or we're gonna be
toast.
Like that's what the feeling isright now and what I personally
feel is every second that Ispend being sad about AI and
(22:58):
what it might do to creativepeople it puts.
I personally, you know what'sboring talking to people about
how much they should be learningto use AI.
Like that's easy, it's beensaid, we know it.
We know what we know it.
Let's talk about what it'sgonna take to open up ourselves,
to even be able and willing todo that.
(23:19):
For me, the answer is it'stwofold.
One thing is just fuckingurgency Like.
One thing is like I got a lotof shit to get done all the time
and if robots can help me forcheap, like I am in the class of
people that need that help forthe low, and I'm also in the
(23:39):
class of people who, if whatthey give me back is does not
meet my standard the robots,then like I'm either going to
tweak it until it meets thestandard or I'm not gonna give
it to you all, like I'm notgonna start pumping out bullshit
that robots give me.
Also and I wanna be super clearabout this I don't know if I'm
(23:59):
ever like, when it actuallycomes to writing as product,
like writing my books, writingmy, even my captions, right,
like I like to think that mywriting is too much a personal
appendage of me, that I don'tknow if I'm ever gonna trust AI
to like be predictive on how Icommunicate in writing.
Like writing is feels like myconnection to you all.
(24:22):
That is like so sturdy that Idon't really want any other.
I don't want anything else inthe middle there.
So there's urgency.
And then there's another part,which is like survival in
evolution.
Dude, I don't think I'm gonnahave a stomach to watch another
(24:50):
technological evolution andrevolution happen where, in fact
, the tools are available.
This is how I feel about socialmedia right now, where the
tools are so easy, like so easyto access and cheap and
(25:11):
available to all of us.
I don't think I'm gonna be ableto stomach watching white
people rise to the top of thatagain and I just watch.
And I just watch because I'm sofucking sad about being.
I'm so sad because I'm such anartist and like I just aren't
supposed to be made by peopleLike I just don't think I can do
(25:32):
it, I don't think I can stomachthat.
I feel too competitive as aperson in that particular way.
I don't think I can just Ican't watch Hollywood as it is,
have a complete revolution withthis technology and the
leadership of it.
Look exactly like Hollywoodlooked when you needed a fucking
$800 million studio lot to goshoot some shit.
(25:54):
I just can't, I just don'tthink I can take it.
And you know what?
I can take it if I try and itstill happens.
I can take it like if Iactually put my foot in it and
it doesn't work out.
Morgan, well, actually I called.
Why are you laughing?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You're just the one, you and that wand.
I wish the podcast people couldsee the fucking wand.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Well then they should watch on YouTube Live and they
should watch our reels, becauseit's gonna be in there Do?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
you like it?
No, it's fun, okay, I thinkit's really fun.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I feel like Mickey Mouse in the Sorcerer's
Apprentice.
Okay, so I called my friend I'mgonna call him my executive
advisor the other day because Ithink that's the title that he
feels good about.
I called him the other day.
I said hey, I made this like82nd or 72nd video.
(26:54):
I put into the thingamabob ordid I already talk about this on
the show.
I put into the to the.
You mean the image.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yes, it was a video generate.
I talked about it already.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, I said make me, I wanna see a video where a
black man with dreadlockstransforms into a jellyfish.
That's what I asked it for andit gave me this video.
That was like weird as shit.
But I called my friend to sayto him.
I said what do you think isgonna happen?
How do you think my audiencewill respond if I put this video
(27:28):
out, if I put this on myInstagram?
And it's honestly so funny that, like the way I now think about
my Instagram, I'm like treatingit as if it is like a giant
football stadium full of people,basically.
But I was like how do you thinkit will feel if I give this to
the people on my Instagram?
And he's like I don't know.
(27:49):
But he said it's worth testingby asking them how are they
going to feel?
So I went to, I go to stories.
I say, hey, I'm experimentingwith AI.
How will you guys feel if Istart sharing some of the stuff
I'm experimenting with on myInstagram?
And I wanna say, like 85% ofthe people said, or I said do
you want me to share what I'mexperimenting with on my
(28:11):
Instagram?
That 85% of the people said yes.
So I said great, I sat down andI wrote out this long ass
caption about it and I put itout there and what I told myself
was as long as I'm being honestwith people and super open
about how I'm using these tools,I think people will feel safe
(28:36):
to come along for the ride.
And then Morgan sent me todaysomething that was reassuring in
that vein, which was Morgan,can you read me that thing that
you sent me?
Speaker 2 (28:48):
It was a new study by Yahoo and publicist media shows
that transparency will go along way towards closing the gap
between consumers andadvertisers when it comes to AI.
The study Trust ThroughTransparency the future of AI
and advertising pulled that1,200 consumers and over 350 US
advertisers, finding that 77% ofadvertisers UAI positively, but
(29:11):
only 38% of consumers sharethat sentiment.
The brands can build trustthrough transparency.
The study showed that AIgenerated ads with noticed
disclosures increases brandperceptions and caused a 47%
lift in ad appeal, a 73% rise inad trustworthiness and a 96%
increase in overall trust forthe company.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
So here's what I took that to mean.
I actually can read, I readthat and I understood it and I'm
like it's so nice to be able toread something and understand.
What I took that to mean isthis and it's going to be basic
and it's going to be such aalready know.
But let me just say it out loudto make the point Advertisers
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people who spend literallymillions of dollars to create
content that will help drive youall to click things, buy things
, go to things, attend thingsthose people are excited about
these tools that will allow themto make those things a lot
cheaper.
To cut out people like thepeople sitting in this room, who
(30:15):
will usually charge themthousands of dollars or, in some
cases, hundreds of thousanddollars to produce those things.
They are happy that they willnot necessarily have to work
with us human beings anymore tomake that shit.
They will have some person onstaff who is like the AI content
generator, chief of chief of AIcontent generation.
They'll have two or threepeople underneath them who
(30:37):
really understand well how toput a script into an AI
generator that returns what youwant.
They'll tweak, tweak, tweak,tweak until they get it how they
want it and they'll shoot itoff.
They'll send out a hundred ofthose things and the ones that
are returning or that arematriculating enough people from
their audience to the productthey want to sell, those ones,
they will continue to spendmoney to advertise, to, like,
(30:58):
push into the advertisingchannels such as Instagram,
twitter, youtube, tiktok, etc.
That's almost the exact samething we're doing with the reels
, except with robots making thecontent.
The advertisers, of course, areexcited about that.
On the other side, the consumerless so, and I actually want to
(31:24):
spend like two seconds righthere thinking about why is the
consumer less so?
Like?
Why is the consumer lesscomfortable, less trusting of
the advertisers, to use thosetools in that way?
I think one is that, like youknow, this is going to be a
(31:46):
weird example, but I think it'sgoing to make sense.
I don't think there's anyreason today.
This is smart.
I like Chad.
This is a good one.
This wand is giving mebrilliance.
Okay, I don't think there's anyreason why we actually have to
have human beings working atMcDonald's anymore.
I think the reason I'm notsaying any moral reason.
(32:09):
I'm saying I don't thinkMcDonald's has a reason why they
need human beings handing you abag with your Happy Meal in it.
I think the reason why that isthe case is because human beings
want to see that another humanbeing was a part of the process
of like.
We are trusting that ifsomething terrible or gross or
poisonous is happening in thatrestaurant that a human will see
(32:31):
it, will notice it and will belike I cannot serve this to you.
This is I can't.
I just saw a Roach walk acrossthis.
I cannot morally hand this toanother human being and with
robots we do not have that trust.
I think the same is so for ourcontent.
I think people want to believethat if there is a nefarious,
(32:53):
even if it tests well, even ifit's good enough to make us buy
something, we want to believethat a human being somewhere in
the creative process, in themarketing channel process, in
the distribution process,someone will halt the breaks and
be like, wait a second, that'spoison, like, don't distribute
that.
And when the robots take overthe creativity process, we don't
(33:16):
have that anymore.
Disney likely, I think likely tobe bought by Apple or Amazon If
and when that happens.
I saw I was listening tosomething two days ago that said
Wall Street is poking at Disneybecause they're like if Disney
wants to be taken serious as atech company, then they need to
dot, dot, dot, they need toembrace AI.
Disney's not supposed to be atech company.
(33:38):
Disney is supposed to be acreative factory, but it is a
tech company now and it wants tobe, I think, bought by tech
companies.
And those tech companies, themoment that they have the
handles on Disney, are going tosay how can we make this process
as seamless as possible andstick some robots in where we
have human beings sitting there,and at that point the robots
(34:01):
will truly be the ones speakingand talking directly to your
children, and there won't be ahuman being saying is this okay
for kids to watch?
And that's already happening inlarge part.
But we like the idea thatthere's a person somewhere
around there who can, like aperson somewhere who will be
like this one is dangerous forkids.
(34:23):
I know the data saying it's OK,but something here just doesn't
feel right.
And so where that leaves mewith AI is it feels inevitable.
It feels inevitable that somecomputer is going to run a
thousand different versions ofteletubbies, distribute them all
(34:45):
instantly and measure how manyof your kids' eyeballs are
staring at the screen and howmany of them are leaving.
That's already.
I want to tell you all that'salready happening.
But because I know that'sinevitable, like I want to get
on the right side of the control, switch on this thing.
Like that's, that's what I want.
(35:05):
I don't, I'm not going to trustanother swath of 10 white
billionaires deciding, like,what we're going to do with AI.
Like I want to see some othertypes of people with their hands
on the controls.
All right, that's it.
I am about to embark on, I'mabout to embark on a journey
(35:26):
into the abyss.
Ok, ok, ok.
I am about to embark on achallenge to myself to respond
to every comment on my Instagramfrom the last two months.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Every comment every comment.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I love this challenge .
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I know you do?
Speaker 3 (35:48):
I love this challenge .
This is so good for manyreasons.
Okay, both business wise andentertainment wise.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Value will be there the entertainment by behind.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Okay, um, let's take all right, morgan.
What do you predict will be theoutcome of this journey?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Um, I predict that you'll get in maybe like 10
Online spats, like going backand forth, and maybe like get
somewhat of a cult's followinglike.
Well, people like willappreciate your, your
willingness to like try tochange people's minds.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Maybe, interesting or you'll change one person's mind
cult sounds fun.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
I like it.
Okay, all right, josh.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
You're gonna get a lot more Listeners and people
tuning in and you're gonna get alot more people following you
from it.
I think that's that's that'smostly why I'm excited that
you're gonna do this.
And then, secondly, yeah, Ijust look forward to seeing the
mess that happens.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
How do you think it will affect me emotionally?
Speaker 3 (36:55):
Um a lot Cuz you're sensitive.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
What ways in particular?
Speaker 3 (37:01):
um, you're gonna be.
It's a god.
I think it'll make you reallyhappy at times.
I think it'll be making reallysad at times.
No, I doubt it'll make you thatAngry.
I think it'll make you feelfeel very hyped to get in front
of the mic.
Sometimes I think we're gonnaget a full cornucopia of Chad.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
That's what I predict .
Okay, morgan John, how do youthink it will affect me?
Speaker 2 (37:21):
I think it's gonna be very draining for you and we'll
make you probably a little sad,because Josh is right, you are
sensitive, but in the best way,but um, but then I think also,
maybe you'll make a friend, likeyou'll make a couple friends.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Okay, I mean I don't be in there like that.
I mean on it.
I mean, do you look at mycomments?
Yeah on a scale of, like youknow, kind and harmless, to like
totally eviscerating and meanhow far does it go on the scale?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I would say like you got five.
Okay, yeah, no one's are likehe has weird, he's a weird face.
Nobody's like saying no one'sattacking you like as a person.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, it's all about your like opinions.
At least I think I haven't seenanything.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I I've been feeling pretty excited about embarking
on this journey because I I likethe interaction on the stories,
with the questions, and I Seehow they have like I can.
I feel I feel like a communitybuilding and I'm like okay, now,
now that these people who likeme are talking to me, I want to
(38:35):
go talk to the people who aremean, but I know they're not all
mean like Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
I mean it's just like disagreeing with you right.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
I think, yeah, I think, and I think what I have
noticed when I, when I peak, islike it never seems like anyone
is saying anything.
I'm, with a few exceptions,with a finger bots.
It never looks like anyonesaying anything.
That is completely off base.
I think the way that peoplecommunicate disagreement on the
internet is really tragic.
(39:05):
Like the tone is so tragic.
It's like, you know, it's likefor the one that's about by
racial average, by racial peoplein advertisements.
It's like someone will jump inand be like well, who the fuck
cares what white people think?
And I'm like, okay, well, ifyou put it like that, I guess
that's the end of theconversation.
Like I guess there's nothingelse to talk about here, but I
(39:27):
I'm interested to see what itfeels a little bit like product
development, you know, likegoing in and like talking to
your users, kind of, and like Ido help it, I hope it will grow,
help us grow faster, I hope.
I hope it will make more peoplefollow and tune in.
It should.
I think it will.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
I think it has to.
I love I, even from people Iknow.
I love when I get a like on mycomment.
Like, if I like comment onsomeone's thing and then they
like it, it's like oh, like yousaw it, like you know, like you
see me.
It even means more coming fromlike someone you don't know or
someone you might admire.
Um, so you going further thanthat and commenting back is
(40:10):
gonna be Nice for people.
Speaker 1 (40:14):
When you say you think I'll make a friend.
Yeah, what sort of friend, doyou mean Morgan?
Speaker 2 (40:20):
Like a regular, like a, like an online friend.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Interesting a pen that's very Gen?
Z of you.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
There are online friends.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
Yes, okay, um, did the AI guy get back to us?
No, what the fuck.
I think.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I don't know, maybe he's just one of our data.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Yeah, bastard, that's fine.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I'm not data.
I gave him my data somehow,probably yeah, damn.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Well, okay, fair enough.
Um, all right, I got fiveminutes here.
Morgan, which one of thesethings do you want to talk about
?
Speaker 2 (40:51):
The Trump sneakers.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
All right, the Trump sneakers so crazy.
Donald Trump, what do you doagain?
Hold on Sneakers, cuz he didsome other crazy shit recently.
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
He on Fox News talking toRaymond Arroyo.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
No, raymond Arroyo is the Trump wasn't on the news.
They were just talking abouthis sneakers.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
Oh, yeah, raymond Arroyo, I'm sorry, this is
excellent reporting by me.
Raymond Arroyo Arroyo on FoxNews Said to said of Donald
Trump that black people, heresonates with us because we
love his sneakers.
Yes, um, okay, so.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
You want to play that clip?
Speaker 1 (41:34):
No, I don't because, because, because we only have a
couple minutes and this is, thisis and it's, it's.
It was like a While ago.
At this point, like people haveprobably heard it, here's what
I want to say, because I alsoheard Donald Trump say to a
large group he was at like theblack conservative Something or
other group, and he was sayinghow like he's been persecuted
(41:55):
and he knows that we Feel him onthat because we've been
persecuted.
I was out last night andSomeone asked me a question
about how, how black people areable to, how, being black and
being afraid, like fear, howlike fear of things that can
(42:19):
happen to us as black people inreal life.
How does that affect our work?
And, being honest, I thought itwas a I Don't know what the
right word is.
Without being overly blunt, Idon't want to offend this person
, but I thought it was a badquestion.
I think any question about thattakes a group of 30 million
(42:42):
people and Ames to try to likeblock us all in as one thing is
a bad question.
Like human beings Relate tofear differently, like some
people, fear makes them feelbolder.
Some people fear makes themfeel Sheepish.
Some people fear makes themfeel excited or exhilarated,
like.
We all have different responsesto fear, so I can't say how
(43:04):
fear affects black people atwork this kind of dumb-ass shit
about sneakers and, like I am atthe current moment, I think
honestly, from being in dialoguewith so many White people who
(43:26):
have come over to my platformfrom other stuff I've worked on,
I'll just say Frustrated it'snot even the word.
I'm, I'm, I'm actually.
I am noticing how little nuancethere is in the way that people
distinguish Between us, likehow little nuance there is in
(43:51):
the understanding of how manydifferent types of black people
there are.
There are three extremelydifferent types of black people
in this room right now and I andI think to the eye that is
Unintelligent, ignorant and notdiscerning.
You look to just like I Don'tthink anybody in here has on
like super fancy new sneakers.
You know what I mean.
(44:11):
You look to like paint us allwith one brush.
Somebody asked me on, somebodyasked me on Instagram.
Do you see yourself ending upwith a black woman, a white
woman or neither, and Even likea question like that?
It's so.
It's like so beside the pointof my humanity and of like that
(44:34):
woman's humanity.
If you know what I mean.
It's like I Don't know I'msingle, like I don't know who
the fuck I'm gonna end up with.
Like and I'm and I'm not like.
Um, you're asking me to try topredict a decision Using
extremely primary colors andbasic building blocks, and
that's because, like you don'tsee me as anything with detail,
(44:57):
like you don't see me assomething that is, um, that is
nuance and subtle and and likechanging and shifting and all
these other things, um, so thatsneaker shit, like that's the
extremely dumb shit that is justlike a part of everyday life
for us, which is the thing wherethey're like oh man and I know
(45:21):
I'm generalizing too, but likeit happens all the time.
It's like Morgan, I think we'vetalked about this.
It's like, oh, you're gonnalove my friend Trampilla quan.
Like You're gonna loveTrampilla quan so much he's
really, um, he's so smart, Imean, he's really articulate,
like he's kind of like you, likehe's he's just so cool, you
know, like he's just you'regonna love him 99 times out of
(45:44):
100.
Also, by the way, when you meetthat person, they suck.
They always suck like that up.
That other black friend isalways a terrible hang like.
So, actually, I just want to,because I y'all can hear me.
I Will not like your otherblack friend.
Don't introduce us, not connectus.
(46:06):
I will not hang up, I will notpick up the phone, I will not
text back, I won't like them.
Okay, that's it.
Thank you, this has beennothing anarchy.
We'll see y'all on Tuesday atnoon.
And what do we want them to doanything?
Oh, I have a creative workshopfor aspiring writers, podcasters
(46:27):
, tv writers, anybody who has acreative project that feels
stuck and wants to get theirthing Unstuck.
I have a creative workshop onWednesday, march 6, next week.
You can find you can sign up atthe link on my Instagram.
It's in my bio.
See y'all in the comments.
Goodbye.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
You.
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