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June 18, 2025 43 mins

Content Warning: This episode contains detailed descriptions of a deadly building fire. Listener discretion is advised.

Due to the unexpected passing of Kate's mom, we're upcycling our first Patreon bonus episode so we don't leave you without content for a week. More ruinous content will come your way soon, but we appreciate your understanding and support during this tough time. 

We didn't know much about this tragedy before we researched it for the show, and it was even worse than we remembered. We hope it's educational (and entertaining) for you.

You can find pictures referenced by Kate here. Slide 3 is the floor plan of 9th floor of the Asch building.

This is a list of the victims

And here's more about the elevator operator, Joseph Zito, who made as many trips as he could despite being stabbed with shears by panicked workers attempting to escape the fire. When the elevator cables snapped, Joseph was trapped at the bottom of the shaft with a broken leg, nearly drowning in water from the firehoses until he was rescued.

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