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August 19, 2025 56 mins

In this classroom-deep-dive episode of NTN Unpacked, host Mark Stolan reconnects with Jackie Blightman and My Lam, the dynamic math teaching duo from Quimby Oak Middle School’s Lobo School of Innovation (LSI). Together, they pull back the curtain on what it’s really like to run a high-functioning Problem-Based Learning (PrBL) math program - one that balances rigorous skill mastery with authentic student engagement. LSI’s longtime coach Elena Bell also joins Mark to break down how LSI’s approach is both revolutionary and inspiring for all types of math learners that walk through Jackie and My’s classroom.

From co-teaching collaboration to “funnel” and “non-funnel” problem design, Jackie and My share how they transform abstract math standards into meaningful, real-life problems - complete with messy middles, strategic nudges, and a focus on oral and written communication. You’ll hear stories about how the team has learned to fail forward, why struggle is the best teacher for both educator and student, and how they’ve evolved projects over time to maximize student voice and choice.

You’ll hear reflections on:

  • The key differences between PBL and PrBL - and when to use each

  • Strategies for supporting students who “aren’t math people”

  • Designing high-leverage problems that still meet standards

  • How AI can help teachers design richer, more personalized projects

  • The value of failure, iteration, and transparency in the classroom

Whether you’re a math educator curious about PrBL, a PBL teacher looking to adapt your practice, or simply someone who loves hearing how learning comes alive, this episode is packed with insight, humor, and practical takeaways you can use tomorrow.

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