Ancient Wisdom and Modern Connections: Moor Science, Freemasonry, and Personal Growth with Dr. Paul Dyer, Brother Jelani, and Brother Sharif

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
all right, we're on, we're on, we we're going to go
back into it.
Short introduction Thank youguys for coming out this evening
.
I really appreciate you.
We got Jelani on the check in,brother Jelani.
We got Brother Sharif, anil Bey, dr Paul Dyer on.
I'm going to cut the mic rightnow, jelani Bey, excuse me,
because in the background youhave some background noise and

(00:44):
then when you talk I just turnit right back on.
So a quick introduction we'regoing to start off with Dr Paul
Dyer.
You know and you know we'llstart with there.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
We'll start with Dr Paul Dyer.
So real quick.
So I just released my new booktoday.
It just came out from thepublisher.
That is the Shadow Sins of theBlack Warrior.
I did 15 years in the militaryspecial ops.
I've been traveling as a Masonfor 35 years.

(01:19):
I have four PhDs Neuroscienceand physics is part of that.
I love studying science.
I've been a martial artist for50 years now and I just love
studying human existence andhuman condition and human life

(01:41):
form.
And I'll leave it at that.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
All right, all right, brother Jelani.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Islam to my moors.
My name is Jelani DelisaAbdullah Kalfani Bay.
I've been a moor scientist for22 years.
I've been a traveling man for27 years.
I've been a traveling man for27 years.
I've been a martial artist for56 years.
Love knowledge, love to tolearn and constantly seek unity.

(02:20):
That's about it in a shortnutshell.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Let's go with Brother Sharif real quick.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
My name is Brother Sharif Al-Ail Bay.
I'm your brother, member of theMore Science of American,
incorporated under theleadership of Brother R Jones
Bay and his sister, brother AHopkins Bay.
I serve as the National PressSecretary for the More Science
of American Incorporated underHopkins Bay.
I serve as the national presssecretary for the more science
of American incorporated underthat leadership.
I'm the local.
I'm a grand sheik of a localtemple, syracuse, new York.
I'm a martial artist, lifelongmartial artist since age five.

(02:58):
We also too I just finished,just finished With a Qigong
class.
We teach ongoing medical Qigongcourses and we do medical
Qigong treatments.
As far as the Freemasonry I wasinitiated, passed and raised

(03:23):
Scottish Rite Back in 97.
Yeah, scottish Rite.
And in 2001, became a member ofthe got healed over in Egyptian
Rite R, memphis Mizrahi.

(03:45):
I'm currently a member of theAreopagus of a particular
jurisdiction of the right ofMemphis Mizrahi and I hold a
charter for Beit Elamex Simlaj.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Hmm, I had no idea.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Also here you go.
Uncus Lodge 161.
Odd Fellows.
International Order of OddFellows.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
All right, all right, before we go back to you,
brother Sharif, do you have anyparticular books out right now
that anyone can check out, orany achievements that you've
just accomplished?
I know we were on the phone andyou was telling me something
about something you created,your initiative and things like
that.
I don't know if you want toexpound on that.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Oh well, yeah, I'm currently the past master of
Jaffa's Mobile Lodge number oneand the founder of Jaffa's
Mobile Lodge number one.
Like I said I was, I've been a.
I've been a Mason for 27 yearsand when I got into more science
in 2002 and I started hearingthe things that Moores was
saying about Freemasonry andknowing different being a

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Scottish Rite and York RiteMason, I couldn't really correct
them because, you know, Icouldn't really speak about the
rituals and stuff.
But what I did encounter wascoming into Moores Science
there's a lot of things in morescience that I learned in
Freemasonry and then thecomments that were being made
that I couldn't comment on, alot of them were out of

(05:35):
ignorance and out of fairy talesand hearsay.
So after so many years ofhearing these things both sides,
you know black sovereigncitizens from the Masons and you
know all kind of crazy ritualsfrom from the Moors and that
kind of thing there, and youknow white establishment

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allegiance and all this garbage.
I says you know what?
It's time for me to start totry to mesh the two together.
So what we did was we founded alodge is all Moorish Americans.
It's time for me to start totry to mesh the two together.
So what we did was we founded alodge that's all Moorish
Americans, so that MoorishAmericans can come into
Freemasonry, learn whatFreemasons know and, at the same

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time, see the similarities ofthe jurisdiction they're already
in, and then, vice versa, asthey come in, the Freemasons
will learn more aboutnationality and birthright by
just being exposed to thebrothers' small talk and their
demonstration.
So I'm the founder of that.
I'm the founder of King BlackTiger Fist Style Kempo.

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I was awarded the Soki Shipfrom the Black Dragon Soki Ship
Council 2019.
My Shidoshi is Ron Van Cleef,the Black Dragon In that
particular system.
I'm a Gelshi Shihan, 7th DegreeBlack Belt.

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I also hold a 3rd Level.
I'm a Gyoshi Shihan, seventhdegree black belt.
I also hold a third level blacksash in Pai Long Kung Fu, first
degree in Shaolin Su Kenpo,first degree in Mushaburu
Jujitsu, and that's about it.
National Grand Sheik for theMorse Holy Temple of Science of

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the World.
Pre and sundry Morse ScienceTemple of America.
I was ordained Grand Sheik,divine minister in the embryo
Morse Science Temple May 26,2006.
That's about it.
I'm not good on accolades andgoing down the line, but you
know I've been around for alittle while.
Islam.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
All right, islam been around for a little while.
It's long.
All right, it's long now.
Uh, brother sharif, um, let'sgo into your.
You know, uh, dr paul dyer, youmentioned your books and stuff,
like that, right, you justmentioned.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
The reason why I mentioned the recent book is
because when we talk about theshadow sins the last book's
title is the Shadow Sins of aBlack Warrior it goes right into
what we talk about, whatmasonry is all about.
We carry a lot of knowledge andinformation Wherever we go.

(08:17):
It holds into which we call ourknowledge nugget In our brains
and we carry that Into battle.
We carry that in the peacefulworld.
We carry that everywhere we go.
The more knowledge you gain,the more peace you gain.
But you can also it's the moreweapons you have.

(08:42):
So the book is A non-fictional,fictional.
So there's history involved init.
So you know we talk aboutmasonry.
I studied in New York masonryfor many years because I worked

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in the Knights of Malta, in theUnited Nations, in the
sovereignty of Malta right, theKnights of Malta and I worked
for the UN, and so when peopletalk about masonry, is it just
titles and things?
Is it just titles and things?

(09:27):
No, these people around theworld are still working as a
unit.
That started back in 1633.
When the Byzantine Empire haddestroyed one of the libraries.

(09:49):
You know what I mean.
So we are not withoutinformation if you go seeking
and that's where the travelingcomes in.
When we talk about traveling,that means go seek your
information, not just standstill.

(10:12):
And you're right, ron, when yousaid that some lodges that
lodge wasn't for you, and Sharifsaid it Not every lodge is
going to teach you theinformation.
That's why when you go out andtravel and you go knock on
different doors Masonic doors,they're not going to be the

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thing and when you travel aroundthe world, they're going to
give you things you say, man,holy, like this is blowing my
mind, like the first time I wasin Lebanon Lebanon most people
don't know that's in Syria.
Syria, right, we call it theMiddle East.

(10:53):
No, it's just the East.
There are lodges in the East,people who have information that
we seek out, that carry theknowledge that's been passed
down for centuries.
So what are you willing to seek,what are you willing to learn

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and what vessel are you tryingto carry it in?
That's what being you know.
I call myself a lifelongmartial artist.
Right, we do that because weare lifelong learners.
A Masonic person is a lifelonglearner.
We are an open vessel.
We will carry that informationas long as we have breath within

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our lungs and we will pass iton to those who we deem worthy.
We just don't spout it outanywhere.
So if that makes sense.
So that's why I write, I read,I do all these things it's
because I want to pass on myfruit of labor.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Got you, got you Now the benefits of masonry.
I want to go with Jelani Bayright now break down the
benefits of masonry how you seeit and then we'll go back to Dr
Paul Dyer.
Dr Paul Dyer last time wastalking about the three knocks

(12:26):
and the pituitary gland andeverything like that.
So I want to go into that aswell, after we build with
Brother Jelani Bay real quick.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
OK, well see, my experience with Freemasonry is a
universal brotherhood.
In my travels I've experiencedsome remarkable things, masons,
but on a universal level.
With Freemasonry.

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You know, with the properknowledge and the way you carry
yourself, you will never meet astranger.
You'll never meet a unfriendly,unhelping hand.
I've been in situations where Iwas in dire need and because I
knew what I knew otherwise,complete strangers came to my

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rescue.
They were very cordial and werevery brotherly.
I was just recently at an IHOPand I guess they must have saw
the back of my land transport,the automobile, and they just
walked up to my table, gave me$20 and said you have a good day
, brother.

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Getting on from a can of paint,I got lost.
In New Jersey I seen a sisterpumping gas.
She had the light on the back.
Couldn't talk to her, but I'malso a past patron, so she had
the light on her license plate.
I approached her, told her oursituation.
10 minutes later there's 15dudes in the parking lot, don't

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know him from Adam, passing outbusiness cards and wanting
telephone numbers.
There's very few organizationsthat you can get that experience
.
So I think the most importantbenefit of masonry is that
universal brotherhood.
You know, now you have somepeople who are disagreeable in

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the ranks.
You know that carry pettysquabbles from our elders of the
past.
We have that in more sciencetoo, but for the most part that
universal brotherly love.
That's what I've experienced inFreemasonry and that's what I

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think the benefits of it are,you know?
Yeah, seriously, islam, I hear.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Islam.

Speaker 4 (15:20):
Okay, before we go back to Dr Paul Dyer, I want to
talk to Sharif Anil Bey aboutthings that he's accomplished
recently and books that he hasout.
I mean, I've got a number ofbooks out.
You can you know I don't wantto really go into all of that
stuff you can go to Amazoncom.
Everything I have is there.
You can type in the search barbooks by Sharif and I obey.
You'll see them right Outsideof the course.

(15:42):
Mean, we're doing.
We're doing a number of things Ium have, um, I have two in a
real qigong.
We have a qigong series calledreal qigong that are
instructionals that come there.
They're're five-hourinstructional intensives with
supplemental PDFs, of course,and then ongoing consultation

(16:04):
with you, and we're teachingreal Qigong and demystifying it
at the same time, so to speak.
Right now we have two coursesavailable.
One is called BioenergeticAnatomy, which is the one I
highly suggest people start with.
I've also done another one onthe six healing sounds.
We have the more coming out aswell.

(16:26):
As some of you know, I've doneover a decade of research on
alchemical history and tech andits rediscovery.
I have to put that in airquotes and its rediscovery, you
know, via David Hudson inArizona, and I've done a number

(16:50):
of presentations on the famedphilosopher's stone, or in other
wordsatomic gold, and as aresult, we have a product, a
real, um, monoatomic goldproduct, real one, and so we
make that available as well.
Uh, that's it, bro, that's itall right.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
And where can they find the monoatomic gold?

Speaker 4 (17:15):
uh just contact me directly.
Uh contact me on instagram umat uh sharif bay.
Contact me on.
Contact me on Instagram atSharif Bay.
Contact me on Facebook SharifAnayil Bay.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
Islam brother.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Sharif.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yes sir, islam your brother.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
Hey man, Islam Sifu, how you doing, brother?
Forgive my ignorance, but whatare the physical benefits of
your product?
What are things that I couldlook forward to in using the
product?

Speaker 4 (17:40):
Oh well, okay, Well, oh, wow.
Well, to begin with to toanswer the question, to answer
that very short, you know, youknow, pragmatically I have to
kind of speak to what itactually is.
Okay, so, monoatomic gold andthis actually gives me an
opportunity to kind of correctsome things, because there's a

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lot of people out there withOrmus products.
They say Ormus, o-r-m-u-s orO-R-M-E-S.
Let's start with that.
Ormus is not really a word.
Ormus is an acronym, figuredOrbitally rearranged monatomic
elements.
That's what Ormus is.
An acronym Orbitaly Rearrangedmonatomic elements.
That's what orms is.
Okay, monatomic referred.

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The term monatomic refers toSomething that has Orbitally
rearranged Electrons around thenucleus Of an atom.
So when they say I've heardsome people in their products
I'm not trying to hate, but wewant responsible information
I've heard people say, yeah, thegold is monoatomic size.

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No, that means they don'tunderstand what monoatomic means
.
They're talking about a colloid.
In other words, as in colloidalgold or colloidal silver, right
, monoatomic gold is pure gold.
But it is no longer a metal.
It is alchemically transformed.
It is alchemy people.

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It is transmutation ofsomething.
And what it is, it's thetransmutation of metal gold into
pure gold.
That's non-metal.
And I'll just say this reallyquick.
In the process of transformingmetal gold into monatomic gold,
there's a specific process thatcauses the nucleus of the gold

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atoms to rotate very fast, andas it does so it elongates like
a cat's iris.
When this happens, theelectrons form on both ends.
It's called a Dr Dyer knowsthis it's called a dumbbell atom
.
And then the nucleus flexes sothat the electrons form what
they call a Cooper-Perry.
When that happens, themetal-to-metal bonds between the

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atoms of the gold fall apart.
That's why it's calledmonatomic, because the electrons
are all rotating the exact samedirection.
That's why, and when thathappens, the metal-to-metal
bonds fall apart.
You have pure gold, but it is apowder, a white powder or a
pinkish powder or a red powder.
That's what it is.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
This was fascinating.
So when we talk about Masonicstuff, we're actually talking
about alchemy.

Speaker 4 (20:21):
Yes, we are.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
We're talking about transformation.
We're talking about matter.
We're talking about protons,we're talking about neutrons,
we're talking about electrons,we're talking about positive and
negative.
We all have been talking aboutthe molecular structure of man.
That's when we, when we startto study how to transform man,

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we're actually talking about themolecular structure of man.
Right?
So that is also in the study ofthe order, right?
Yes, it is so if you don'tunderstand what you're
transforming, you stay what youcall a raw material.

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You don't transform yourselfinto that higher positive change
.
So the study, the engineeringof alchemy, it's engineering.
We're always looking for thatspiritual horizon with the

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matter of man.
I mean, everyone has seen theLeonardo da Vinci drawing, but
that comes way before theteachings in Egyptian hermetic
sciences.
You know when we're talkingabout one of the oldest.
So if we think about in 633 CE,when the people who were trying

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to conquer and do all thisdestruction, they were trying to
destroy the libraries, right,one of the oldest libraries that
we've known is Al Corwin.
That's one of the oldestlibraries we know about, the
libraries that Alexander did inAlexandria.

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Why do you think they weretrying to destroy these
libraries?
They were trying to destroy thetransformation of man into the
spiritual being, which is wherethe things in the teaching
there's always has been teaching.
That's been passed on down.
We write it down, but it hasalways been passed on from the

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word to the ear.
Now, like we said, there'salways going to be some people
who are trying to manipulate andharm and deter and the evil
factions of the world, but thereis still the true word out
there and it has to be protectedbecause people are manipulative

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.
So it's there, it's there, ithas always been there in the
teachings.
So when you're traveling, gotravel, go learn.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I like that, I like that, I like that, I like that.
Jelani.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, dear brother, dyer man, you, you
know, you, you, you, you wentso deep.
Um, that's one of theshortcomings of modern day
Freemasonry, especially amongAsiatics.
Unfortunately, in among theranks there's still so much
superficiality.
You know where you know, a lotof us just mimic words and

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there's not really enoughteachers to actually break down
the operative side ofFreemasonry.
You know, and get into thealchemic and metaphysical
principles of the compass in thesquare, how that goes, how far
that, how deep that goes.
You know the bloodlines of thevarious personalities that we

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read about.
You know in the various rituals, especially in the Memphis rite
, you know they get into some inprobably was a very a lodge

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that lacked in true Masonicknowledge, lacked the ability to
make good men better, not justin your emotions but in your
knowledge.
You know you're supposed to beelevated from the mundane to the
metaphysical, to the alchemic,to the next world.

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You still got a lot of peoplewho have so much dogma in them.
When you talk like this, you'retalking spookism, islam.
I yield, let the other doctorsget down.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
All right, all right.
So now anyone have anything tosay about that?
Say behind that, or to add onyeah, real brief, like there was
something I wanted to touch onabout.
You know what I get out of, forinstance, out of Freemasonry.
My purpose for joining wasn'tsocial or political, it was

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research.
You know, and again, you knowyou get out of Freemasonry what
you put into it.
That's just like with anything.
What I came into it for washigher knowledge, and that's
what I came in for was forhigher knowledge.
I belonged.
Before I became a Freemason.
I had already been a part ofother organizations that deal

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with what people would callhigher knowledge, and so I was
just a seeker of truth.
That was it.
You know I could say thisjoining the Morris Science
Temple of America tied it alltogether for me.
You know what I mean it reallydid of America.
Tied it all together for me.
You know what I mean it reallydid.
It tied it all together andmade it, including the work that

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I've done with the Rite ofMemphis Mizrahi.
The Morris Science Temple ofAmerica Incorporated, made it
all really, truly workable forme.
It really did what the doctorjust said and Brother Jelani
just said in response to what Ihad mentioned about the

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monatomic gold and the art oftransmutation.
Yeah, as Jelani just said, thecraft is to make good men better
.
Prophet Noble Jurali and morescientists of America said right
, you need strong men and womenwho think their condition can be
better.
Prophet Noble Jirali, in MoreScience of America, said right,
he would need strong men andwomen who think their condition
can be better.
If you think your condition canbe better and then you want to
embark on the journey east to doso, then you are engaging in

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the alchemical art oftransmutation, at the very least
on a moral and social level,right, you know.
And the whole art oftransmutation, we very least on
a moral and social level, right,you know.
And and the whole autotransmutation we could see in
blue lodge, right as um, thecomparison between the rough
ashlar and the perfect ashlar.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
There you go gotcha, gotcha so one of the one of the
things when we talk about theseeking of the truth, because
it's the same thing I got intoBecause I want to.
I'm a seek of knowledge andthat's why I got into my
sciences and I got into mysciences.

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It's not because I was good atscience.
I actually got into sciencesBecause I was not good at
science.
I got into math Not because Iwas good at science.
I actually got into sciencesbecause I was not good at
science.
I got into math not because Iwas good at math.
I got into math because I wasnot good at math.
So I said to myself, if I'm notgood at something, that means
something can be hidden from meand I wouldn't know what it was.

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Something can be hidden in anequation and I wouldn't know
what it was.
Something can be hidden in anequation and I wouldn't know
what it was.
Something can be hidden inscience and I wouldn't know what
it was.
So I started to study mysciences and it became fun for
me.
So then, as I started to justbe around people, even though I

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was in a lodge, and it was nicebrotherhood, and it was nice
doing all the little fun things,it was the reading and then
traveling to other countriesbecause I was still in the
military and then I would go offon my own on my down times,
like when I was in Syria.
I would go off into a building,into a mosque and talk to

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people.
I would go wherever I was in inother eastern, middle eastern
countries and go talk to people.
If I was in turkey, go talk tomaybe one of the gregorian monks
and talk to them.
But then when I was in, likeworking with working with people
from the UN, and know thatpeople that were there didn't

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wear the pins and the lights andstuff it was the words they
said gave the information of whothey were and then knowing the
business that they were in, likethe science application
international, that's a Masonicorder that most of those people
are in.

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The leaders are all part of anorder and they do crazy things
for things around the world.
Look them up the scienceapplication international
corporation around the world.
Look them up the ScienceApplication International
Corporation.
They do so many things thatthey have so many hands in on a

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scientific level that peopledon't even know who they are,
but they're in everything, justlike the Knights of Malta, the
sovereignty of Knights of Malta.
They're in everything aroundthe world but people pay no mind
to them.
Because in the United Stateshere's the problem there's very

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few people in the United Statesthat travel outside the United
States.
They'll give an excuse like I'mnot comfortable.
They'll give an excuse I don'thave the money.
They'll give an excuse I don'thave the money.
They'll give an excuse becauseof so many things and the reason
why I call an excuse.
Because they'll go spend moneyon a coach purse, they'll go

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spend money on a playstationgame, they'll go spend money on
300 sneakers, but they won't gotravel outside of the united
states.
That that kind of disturbs me,because you're not looking for
information, you're looking tobe stuck in your base metal
state.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Nice, all right.
Anyone want to add to that?
Well said, well said Well saidWell said.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Well said, well said.
In the United States, you knowthere's a conspiracy to stifle
any type of really trueknowledge.
You know that's their main goalto keep us deaf, dumb and blind
.
It wasn't until I got into thevarious sciences more science

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and Masonic science that Irealized that people were
communicating with me in waysthat they for some reason
thought I was able to handle,but it went right over my head.
You know, right down into thevarious ways to identify a more.
You know, during my Navy days Iknew nothing about birthright
and nationality, nor did I knowanything about the Masonic order

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.
But I'm what they callslew-footed, I'm duck-footed.
So I remember standing in frontof a Filipino guy and he kept
looking at my feet and doingsomething weird.
And he looked at his friend andthen looked at me again and it
did something weird but it justwent right over my head.

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You know that's because I hadno knowledge of it.
You know, you don't.
You can't expound on anythingif you can't recognize it.
Like when you get a new car,you think you got the baddest
thing going, until you drive offthe lot and you realize
everybody else got it.
That's the same thing with thisscience.
There's a group of people thatknow.

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And you're not privy to thosepeople unless you know or come
into the knowledge or becomeaware of it.
And that's one of the goals forthe Masonic order is to get you
at a starting point.
But it's up to you to continueto dig, dig, dig, dig.

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I got into Masonic sciencebecause them cats over there
with the black suit they looklike they knew something
everybody else didn't.
They moved differently and Ifound myself wanting to move
like them, find out what theyknew.
Then, when I got in and thencertain people would tell me
well, excuse me, brother, I gotto talk to this brother here.

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You know, you know you're notthis or you're not that.
I dedicated myself after thatthat I would never be excused
again.
So if you're a Royal Archmason,I got that knowledge.
If you're a nice Templar, I gotthat knowledge.
If you're a Shrine, I got thatknowledge.
If you're a Sublime Prince, Igot that knowledge.
You're an Eastern Star, on andon and on.

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But then through other friends Istarted digging in even deeper
and going into the bloodlines,you know, and finding out
there's more Moorish stuff indoggone Masonic teachings.
And then when we startedtalking about, like Brother
Sharif said smooth ashlar torough ashlar, rough ashlar to

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smooth ashlar.
Now we're getting into anotherscience alchemy.
Smooth ashlar to a rough ashlar, rough ashlar to smooth ashlar.
Now we get into another sciencealchemy rearranging molecules.
You know rhetoric.
People think that's justtalking trash.

(34:37):
But that's the actual scienceof manipulating people with your
speech, like politicians do.
But if you don't take theinitiative to go into the
different material that'spresented to us, then you'd be
just as lost as a neophyte thatknows how to remember stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
That's all Okay.
So my question to you right nowis this right to the panel?
Is so, brother Jelani, you werejust speaking about persuasive
speaking.
Persuasive speaking, right.
So you learn this in the lodge.
If I knew that first of all,where do you learn this?
Because, in what specific lodge?

(35:16):
Because, like I said before,the lodge that I went into, the
reason why I went back out and Idecided I didn't want to get
into masonry is because thatlodge just wasn't for me and I
just thought that I figured Iknew enough at that point.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
I think we said this before and Shreve said this
before and he really said thisbefore and Shreve said this
before and he really said this.
I'm embarrassed by the McDonaldMasonic Lodges, just like I'm
embarrassed by the McDojos, justlike I'm embarrassed by the

(36:00):
many unhealthy people who don'tknow they're unhealthy and they
try to present in a healthymanner instead of just admitting
to themselves.
They just don't know.

(36:20):
Because that's the beginning ofhealth, that's the beginning of
the beginning, that is theOmega Right, and so you will
never know what lives you walkinto, unless you are in tune

(36:43):
with your feelings.
And saying this does not feelright.
And you did that.
So good for you.
But what I'm sad about is thatyou you were not able to go
someplace else to learn is thatyou were not able to go
someplace else to learn, but youdid.

(37:03):
You went into the more science.
So you it's not like you didn'tstop your learning, so it's
really okay.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Yes, sir, yes sir, yes, sir, yes sir.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Because you could have walked into a different
dojo too.
You could have walked into adifferent martial arts studio
and be like, what are they doing?
And you could have been like,ok, I guess I paid my X dollars
and I'll stay here.
And you were like, no, thisisn't for me.
And you could have stayed therefor many years.

(37:36):
You could have stayed there formany years, many years.
Just trust me, I'm old schooland I've walked into.
I've been asked to do seminarsand dojos and I've walked in and
I've looked at the seniorinstructor and I'm like I should
shut you down right now.
And I've looked at the seniorinstructor and I will never

(38:00):
ridicule someone in front oftheir peers or their disciples,
but I brought three seniorinstructors to the back room and
gave them a what for like, gavethem a ribbing, really, and
saying like this you know I'mnot gonna.
No, you need to get your acttogether, because this is

(38:23):
unhealthy.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
Gotcha, gotcha, okay.
So my question is what lodgeshould I go into if I'm
interested, if I want to learnpersuasive, uh, um, speaking, if
I want to learn things, that isthat's going to help me, like,
truly build myself up.
And, uh, you know, it's notlike the McDonald's lodges, as

(38:49):
you said.
Oh wait, hold on one second, gonow, you got it.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yeah, that's very, very hard to say, dear brother,
because, um, what I touched onwas the several liberal arts and
, as you know, um, our ancestorscreated those seven liberal
arts and um so, and taught those, those liberal arts to the

(39:21):
world on various levels, beatingpeople where they are.
What I did was not onlymemorize the seven liberal arts,
but I investigated each one andtried to take it to each level.
So it's an individual thing.
The information excuse me, theinformation in speculative

(39:45):
masonry is universal.
You learn the same exact thingin every Blue Lodge, scottish
Rite and York Rite.
You know, I can't speak for theMidsom Rites.
I'm almost there when I go intothat.
And, brother Sharif, I'd lovespeak for the Mitzvah rights,
when I'm almost there when I gointo that.
And, brother Sharif, I'd loveto get some more information on
that if you, if you couldexpound upon it later.

(40:05):
But the information isuniversal.
It's up to you to really startsearching.
You know, take it to that nextlevel because there's layers to
it.
There's layers to everything,there's degrees to everything.
First, you memorize the words.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
I actually think I have an answer, Jelani.
I think I have an answer, Ithink I really do have an answer
and because I don't want to belike you know the headstone to
all this.
But I think if people have aquestion like you know the
headstone to all this, but Ithink if people have a question
like you do, I think if theytell us where they are because

(40:50):
people have the same question,like churches and I've done this
with Marsh Art Studios If youtell me where you are, you tell
me where you live.
I can, because if I because agood lodge doesn't mind being
contacted you talk to who weneed to talk to ask them certain

(41:12):
questions.
If they get offended, that'snot the lodge, if that makes
sense, right?
So if I it's like contacting,if I can contact a lodge and I
talk to the person sitting inthe east and they're getting
upset because I'm asking a wholebunch of questions, that's not

(41:34):
the lodge.
Just like a dojo.
If I contact the headmaster ata dojo and I'm asking a whole
bunch of questions, that's notthe dojo.
If I contact the headmaster ata dojo and I'm asking him a
whole bunch of questions, that'snot the dojo.
If I contact a church and I'masking the minister a whole
bunch of questions and they'regetting all uppity and all like
this.
That's the wrong church.

(41:55):
So I think if people have thesame question we do, we can
narrow it down to vicinity andgo from there, Because people
have those questions and they'reunsure and they need someone to
trust.
So I think if they just contactthe show, we can at least start
them out and do the researchfor them.
I don't mind doing that.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
OK, so now I just real quick, before before we go
to Brother Sharif, I'm going toask the panel is it okay for me
to then now put in like a, likea call in feature, because I'm
getting emails right, but it'shard for me to keep up with all
the emails, with all thequestions and stuff like that?
It's like, oh, and whoeverreached out?

(42:37):
I saw the email.
I'm sorry I didn't get back toyou.
The call-in feature is coming,it's coming.
So then you can call in and youcan ask whatever questions you
want to ask.
I will have a call-in segment,all right?
Okay, boom, there we go,brother Sharif.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
So this is what I have to say about that.
Regarding the seven liberalarts.
First and foremost, the sevenliberal arts are part of
compulsory education in the West.
There ain't no secret to that.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, it's a part of compulsoryeducation.
So now, this is from myperspective and my experiences.

(43:20):
I can't speak for any of theLodge.
Right, what is the significance, what is the Masonic
significance to the sevenliberal arts?
See, and that's the question.
Right, just the seven liberalarts standing alone by
themselves is a part ofcompulsory education.
Everybody gets that.
You know, or can.

(43:42):
You don't need to go to a lawschool to study the seven
liberal arts.
That's correct.
But there's a specificmethodology, see, it's not the
possessing of the thing, it'sthe knowing of its use.
So there's a specificmethodology in Freemasonry as it

(44:05):
relates to the several liberalarts.
That makes it special withinthe craft, right?
So here's an example, but I'mgoing to give the example out of
the Moorish Science Temple ofAmerica.
Right, as it relates tomethodology.
So we have, like, for instance,freemasonry.

(44:26):
The degrees and stages inFreemasonry offer the seeker
opportunity.
It offers opportunity.
That's it right.
When you look at, for instance,the Matrix Reloaded after Neo
meets Seraph and they fight, andthen Seraph takes him through

(44:49):
the door and you're in thathallway with all these green
doors.
Think of that as the degrees ofFreemasonry.
You have differentopportunities to travel
different places.
Right, so Right.
But you have to do thetraveling In the more science,
and here's the example I'm goingto use to illustrate what I
mean by methodology.
In the more science temple ofAmerica, we say we honor all

(45:11):
true and divine prophets Jesus,muhammad, buddha and Confucius.
Well, where do you seeConfucianism, teachings or
teachings of Confucius?
See, you got to put the work in.
You got to go look.
See what I'm saying.
But first and foremost, you'vegot to be familiar with what
Confucius taught, to know whatto look for.

(45:33):
You got to really put work in.
That said, I'll help everybodyout.
In the Holy Quran, the morescience temple of America, you
go to page 35, which is chapter24, the obedience of children
towards their father.
When you look at the lastinstruction where it says so
shall their hoary heads go downto the grave in peace, and thine
own children, in reverence ofthy example, shall repay thy

(45:57):
piety with filial love.
Oh well, anybody that'sfamiliar with Confucius and the
Work he did automatically See it.
Wow, the Confucian Socialstructure.
Confucius provided For Chinatheir Social structure, right
and in the east.
The young take care of the old,and guess what?

(46:19):
It's called Filial piety.
There you go.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Islamism See All right.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
And that's why in China, when they say love to
father, it's a different soundin the word love, in the word
love, because it resonates in adifferent area of the body than
it does when you say love to amate.

(46:51):
The sound is different Becauseit resonates differently,
because the frequency isdifferently, because the alchemy
is differently, because thefrequency is differently,
because the alchemy isdifferently, because the
transformations differently.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Gotcha Got it All right.
Now any anyone want to expand,or you know, add on to that.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
I hope I was clear enough, right?
I hope I was clear enough indemonstrating what I meant by
methodology.
Everybody has seven liberalarts and there's nothing secret
about that, but it's how it'sapproached.
What is the?
What is it?
I'll just I just throw this.
It's a rhetorical question.

(47:42):
I'll just leave it open ended.
What do the seven liberal artshave to do With the craft of
Freemasonry?

Speaker 2 (47:56):
There you go.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Because, like I said, you can go to Yale and study
several liberal arts.
You can go to any college andstudy several liberal arts,
right?
What makes it so special inFreemasonry?
What?
What is it in Freemasonry?
You know what?
Does that really mean?
What?
What is rhetoric really mean tothe speculative Freemason?

(48:21):
Does it mean the same thing assomebody studying grammar or
studying linguistics or studyinglanguage studies in another
university?
Now we know the short answer tothat is no, it doesn't mean the

(48:41):
same thing.
So the question now is well,what does it mean to the
Freemasons?
And I would venture to say thatthere's a lot of Freemasons
that just don't really knowbecause they haven't done the
work to take it that far.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
And I would actually also say doing the work means
you don't want to do the work.
Doing the work means you don'twant to do the work and you had
asked me this one time before,brother Ron.
When we talk about specialsoldiers and things like that,
how does someone really getprepared?

(49:17):
In being a special soldier,you've got to put in the work.
There's nobody's body differentthan another body.
There's no one People don'tknow how to put in the work has
being exhausted.
They're like oh, I've done this, I'm done Right, it's so.

(49:45):
I, because I still get soconfused about how people get
lost with a map or how peopleget lost with Google Maps we are
not training ourselves toexhaust ourselves, to keep
asking ourselves who am I andthen where do I want to go?
We keep wanting to be pulled bythe nose ring like we're

(50:07):
plowing a field.
That is not what knowledge is.
If you want to gain knowledge,you definitely have to plow your
own way.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Yep, you do that's right.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
That is correct.
And our Grand Governor, BrotherSharif, to I'm not a Grand
Governor.
I thought you was the Anyway goahead.

(50:44):
No, but the several liberal artsin speculative Freemasonry is
because the idea of speculativeFreemasonry is to improve man,
his well-being, his inner fiber.
Knowledge of those sevenliberal arts, not just

(51:07):
memorizing the words but digginginto each art, is supposed to
empower the speculative Masonwith knowledge to build a higher
levels of character and degreesof being.

(51:28):
You know, not justunderstanding what the word
arithmetic means, but nowstarting to measure life
numerically.
Measure life numerically, diginto formulas that equate to

(51:50):
reality, geometry.
You know to start looking atlife in angles.
I know, when I see a flagpole,you know that reminds me of a
plum.
I go right to masonry becauseit measures upright things and

(52:15):
it reminds me to stand uprightas a man, see so and on and on
and on.
So the several liberal arts toa Mason are foundational
principles to help them to starton their way To higher learning
Islam.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
I yield oh, I like that, I like that.
So I want you to expound alittle bit on digging into the
seven liberal arts.
You can give me like a briefexample of of any one of the
seven liberal arts and how todig into it.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
Well, first of all, find out the definition of, find
out what that thing means, youknow, and then go from there.
Find out what that thing means,you know, and then go from
there.
You know.
Well, rhetoric is the controlto control masses with your
speech.
All right, how?

(53:26):
What part of grammar must youuse to trigger in the minds and
hearts of people who you areaddressing ideology that you
wish them to develop?
You know, you have scholarsthat do that.
Um well, politicians especially, you know, and you have
psychologists that do the samething.
This is why we have microexpressions and body language
and stuff like that.
You know, to get keys and cluesto how to manipulate someone.
I don't want to use the wordmanipulate, but to control the

(53:50):
ideology of a mass of peoplesimply by using words to do so.
In other words, you use a wordand then watch their body
language, watch their microexpressions, which help you
navigate which words best fit.
You know the people who you areaddressing.

(54:11):
I like that I like.
That's how you dig in.
You go beyond just the doggoneword Right?
That word has deeper, deeper,richer meaning.
All, all of them do, all of theseveral seven liberal arts do
that's.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
That's a good one.
Right there, mike, mikey, fever, invoke, invoke, that's a good
word.
That's a better word thanmanipulate.
Yes, yes, I agree for sure.
Um, brother, sharif bay, yes,uh, can you you don't have to go
too deep in detail but out ofthe seven liberal arts, give me

(54:48):
a example of how to dig deepinto the seven liberal arts.
You can give me one of theliberal arts.

Speaker 4 (54:54):
Listen, I want to stick on rhetoric.
I like that one, right?
You know another way to say,another way to describe rhetoric
.
Right, in the general sense, ispersuasion.
Right, it's persuasion.
So for me, right, for me, youknow, freemasonry, okay,

(55:19):
freemasonry is a beautifulsystem of morality, veiled in
allegory and revealed in symbol.
Right, revealed in symbol, okay.
So that means that the thingsthat we see that includes the
words are symbols of a realthing.

(55:42):
They're not the real thing.
You see what I'm saying.
So it's just like.
I'll give you a quick example.
Right, if you've got a pet dogor a pet cat, you know darn well
, for the most part, the cat orthe dog does not understand the
words coming out of your mouth.
So how are you able to speak tothe cat and the dog and they
understand you?

(56:02):
The science of rhetoric, fromthe Masonic perspective, it's
not what you're saying, it's howyou're saying it.
So you're not manipulatingwords per se, or it's not really
so much the word, it's thevibration that carries the
persuasion that you use the wordas a vehicle to get across.

(56:26):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Yes sir.
Back to Dr Paul Dyer, anythingfrom the seven liberal arts.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
The science guy.
It's going to be the basis ofgeometry, the geometric geometry
to measure of, the study of thealignment of.

(57:03):
So it goes back to.
We can attach that to rhetorichow does your words align with
what you're saying?
How do they measure with whereyou're going?
That's geometry.
It's not just numbers.

(57:26):
It's things you're doing, it'ssteps you're taking.
It's a process.
What is your process?
What is your geometric process?
I can't.
I'll say this with a strongconviction.

(57:50):
I hate the Bulls, but thattriangle offense was geometric,
so I would have to say geometry,okay, was geometric, so I would
have to say geometry, okay.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Brother Ron.

Speaker 1 (58:10):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
In another school of thought that you are quite
familiar with.
Rhetoric from the Masonicperspective is literally
magnetic.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
In another school of thought, Listen, I was thinking
about all of that.
While y' thinking about all ofthat, why y'all were building on
that.
That's what it is.
I said, oh, wait a minute.
Yeah, that's what it is.
So now you know where my mindis.
Somebody has some other kind ofknowledge.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
No one has a monopoly on truth.
Even Prophet Noble Jali saidabout the Moorish Science Temple
of America.
He said this is part of thegreat program.
The magnum opus is the magnumopus and nobody has a monopoly
on it.
Right, it, right.

(59:03):
You see which?
If, if we're studying right andwe have the right heart, then
we can see the commonalities.
You see what I'm saying?
Right, so I'm not, but?
But I'm not gonna offendsomebody, let's say in a five
percent nation, and try to beatthem over the head with a
compass in the square.
I'll just speak his languageright, yeah I'll just speak his

(59:27):
language.

Speaker 1 (59:27):
Right, yeah, I'll just speak his language.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Simple as that Treat like that Meet them where they
are.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Right, right.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Anything else.
Brothers, you know, I reallyhope people understand that for
someone to gain what they seek,they must first ask what they
don't know.
For someone to gain what theyseek, they must first ask what
they don't know.
But if you have, if you'reunable to humble yourself to ask

(01:00:04):
a question, then you willremain where you are.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Okay, okay, all right , now we got some comments here.
You know, sometimes you knowyou get comments, you go go.
What the hell is that?
But I'm realizing this is theinternet.
This is the internet, so yougotta relax.
Uh, so, um.

(01:00:37):
So we should do a show on thedetriments of free masonry,
especially for Asiatic men.
Let's do it.
I mean, can anyone answer that?
Do it, what's the detriment?

Speaker 4 (01:00:59):
Well, this is what I'll say and I'm going to you
should do a show on thedetriments of free masonry,
especially for Asiatic men.
So here we go.
Go first of all.
Free masonry is an institution,right, it not?
It's an institution.
So it's just like what I toldum the audience that day years
ago when, in 2016, it was a bigaudience at sanetta's event

(01:01:21):
where, uh, polite debated, uh,the one jewish guy and, and
during the intermission he hadme and brother reggie standing
up and brother reggie, basicallyhe wanted to promo the debate
we're about to have and in inthe debate, or in the in the
promo, brother reggie speaksfirst and he's like yeah, you

(01:01:42):
know the moors, they dress niceand they got feathers on, they
got suits and blah, blah, blah,blah, blah.
But you know, religion did thisand religion did that, and
religion did the third andreligion did the other.
So I got up and I knew I was infront of a hostile crowd and
there was almost a thousandpeople there.
So I said this.
I said show of hands.
How many of you all think gunskill people?
Nobody's handling up.

(01:02:02):
Then I said all right, show ofhands.
How many of you all thinkpeople kill people, everybody's
handling.
I said, all right, we've gotintelligent people here.
I said so you guys understandthat?
Right?
They were like yeah.
I said all right, well, checkthis out.
If you all think religion killspeople, then you think guns
kill people and spoons makepeople fat.
And I dropped the mic andwalked away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Spoons make people fat and I dropped the mic and
walked away.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
You know?
So Sharif really hit it on thehead.
If you're going to blame anorganization for any detriment,
then where do you stop?
Not where do you start.
Where do you stop?
Not where do you start?
Where do you stop?
That's a fact, that's a fact.

(01:02:52):
And where?
So that means everything is toblame someplace else other than
thyself.
Right, like, the reason why Ican't run up the hills is
because the hill's too big.
Like.

(01:03:15):
That's the question.
The detriment of me running upthe hills is because the hill's
too big.
Right, it sounds absurd.
Right, it sounds absurd.
Right.
My question is for this person,and I think it's Lorenzo, I
apologize, my question is foryou.

(01:03:35):
Can you explain why you believethat an organization can be a
detriment other than yourself?
Because then maybe we canunderstand where this person is
coming from and then we canunderstand, maybe, where the
question alluded to, becauseright now, the question is so

(01:04:00):
out of pocket, right, right outof pocket.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
Right, I don't take offense to the question.
I personally think that it's asincere question.
I'm just concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
I'm concerned for the person.
I'm concerned for Lorenzo,because that means him asking
this question even afterlistening to this program means
that there's a lot of blaminggoing on instead of
self-reflection.
Mm-hmm, Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Oh wait, hold on a second Jelani Yep, yep, Go ahead
, you got it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
That's what I was talking about earlier.
You know, brother Lorenzo Ill,inadvertently he's gotten some
information that makes him thinkthat Freemasonry, especially
for Asiatics, is detrimental.
And that's kind of crazy,because it was Asiatics,
conscious morals, who broughtthis science to the world.

(01:05:12):
There is no race on it, there'sno nationality on it, because
it's one of the oldest sciencesof the world, even in its
operative state, you know, tothe speculative state.
So it's like Asiatics createdit.
So how would it be a detrimentto Asiatics?

(01:05:34):
That's because the rhetoric isthat the science belongs to the
European and the Europeancontrols the narrative of
Freemasonry and that if you areFreemason then you are in league
with these evil Europeans whoare taking over the world.

(01:05:59):
See, that's from the moral side, on the ignorant level.
That's what Jaffa's MobileLodge was all about to bridge
that gap and to give a generalknowledge, at least on a mundane
level, and then elevate Islam.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
Islam.
So the brother said, dealingwith the seven laws of Tahiti,
there would be, there would haveto be a have to be, polarity.
So anything with the benefitwould be in reverse.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Or my inverse, would have a detriment, inverse,
inverse.
I want to speak to that.
Real brief but real quick.
Before I say it, before I speakto that, let me preface.
Let me say this right, I'm aninitiated Freemason, you know I
am.
I'm a member of the MoreScience Temple of America.
Two different organizations,two different types of
organization.

(01:06:49):
See, we're instructed asmembers of the More Science
Temple of America to protectthat organization and protect
that movement.
I don't got to protectFreemasonry, it's fraternity.
I will never play myself tryingto defend Freemasonry.
I just got to put that outthere.

(01:07:09):
I ain't got to do that.
See what I'm saying.
I will never do such a thingbecause there's no need.
This is just from myperspective.
There's no need Now what thebrother said with the seven laws
to laws to who there would behave to be polarity.
The polarity is not determinedby the institution, dear brother

(01:07:31):
.
The polarity is determined byliving people, not the
institution.
You know, that's like trying to, that's like.
Here we go.
I got a spoon.
Yeah, there's an inverse to it.
Try to eat with it like thisthough.
Yeah, there's an inverse to it.
Try to eat with it like this,though.

Speaker 3 (01:07:52):
See the determinant factor in polarity is the holder
of the spoon, not the spoon.
Islam Islamism, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
Islam, islam.
Anyone else want to saysomething?
Expound before we cut out.
No, yes, sir.
One thing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
To what people say Test the waters for yourself.
If you don't like what thewaters are doing, you can walk.
There's no, you don't getjumped in the Freemasonry.
You see what I mean, just likethe military lodges.

Speaker 4 (01:08:39):
the military lodges may beg to differ.

Speaker 3 (01:08:42):
Oh really, I've never been in a military lodge.
I can't speak on it.
But I, I, I, I, I really I'venever been in a military lodge.
I can't speak on it, I.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
I.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
I yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
When I got raised it was a L-O-O-O-O-O N-N-N Cripple
G weekend.
It was long.
I swear that weekend was 144hours.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
I know that's right.
But see you know what, BrotherDye, you touched on something
All right.
Even the institution of masonryhas been so watered down.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Yeah, yeah, you see what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:25):
Something all right, even the institution of masonry
has been so watered down.
Yeah, yeah, you see what I mean, because when I came in, I know
I counted at least 50 cars inthe parking lot and some of them
were doubled and tripled up andI think every last one of them
showed me love.
That was a long night.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Yeah, my line was 12.
We started out with 32 with mytoe and we end up raising 12 and
it was long.

Speaker 3 (01:10:02):
It was long you have to understand something back
then.
It's the same thing in martialarts.
We used to think we was gettingpunished by getting put on our
knuckles and doing knucklepush-ups right.
We had no idea that we werestrengthening our wrist for a
good punch that's right andputting pads on our knuckles to

(01:10:23):
cushion them from administeringa blow.
See what I mean.
But usually we got instructionwhile we were on those knuckles
Because the pain helped toassimilate the information you
were going through something.
Nowadays it's not that intense.

Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Okay, okay, okay, I don't know what he's.
Maybe Dr Paul Dyer, youunderstand that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
After I finished advanced instructional training,
sergeant told me yeah, they'regoing to try you, that's 100.
Yeah, so when he got raised inthe military lodge, everyone who
was in the military who was ifyou're wearing your symbol or

(01:11:18):
light or whatever, they weregoing to try you.
They were definitely going totry you and pull that light off
of you and to see if you weregoing to be steadfast in your,
your education.
But otherwise they they coulddefinitely bring you back to in
the apprentice.
So it was a very strong like tobe raised in the military lives

(01:11:42):
.
It was very strong.
You definitely had to know yourcraft verbatim, verbatim, and I
still know mine's verbatim.

Speaker 3 (01:11:52):
It's long.
It's the same thing with backin the beginning.
If you see my Facebook, you seeI got a lot of light on the
back.
It's an exercise, see, it goesright back to what Elder Sheree
and I'm not you know.
I don't know we had thisconversation before, but brother
sharif um was saying um, it'san exercise that you initiate,

(01:12:21):
correct?
Because if I have all my lighton there from Blue House all the
way to doggone 32nd, I'mopening myself up for
examination.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
So I must constantly study man, this sounds so
familiar, doesn't it?
This sounds yo, if you're partof a large five percent and you
hear this pie yeah, yeah, yeahyeah oh yeah, one of the guards.

(01:12:57):
Okay, yep, dropper juice makingdollars born yes, yes yes, sir,
yes sir, yeah one.
I got one guard there when wegot, uh, lorenzo blunt l, he
said I'm a part of large fivepercent.
I also studied with the clockof destiny.
That's peace, that's peace,that's peace.
But man, man, this was, thiswas fire.
Anybody else, anybody else,they take your stuff too.

Speaker 3 (01:13:20):
You know they take your stuff a brother.
Brother, stop you.
You know, and you know you goton.
We used to wear belt bucklesback in the day, and medallions
and rings and everything.
And you step up there and somebrother, yo man, what's that?
And you got the wrong answerfor it.
They start going shopping,brother, you know what I'm
saying.
And a lot of times they'll takewhat they can and give it to

(01:13:42):
your master.
They'll ask you where's yourlodge at?
Where's your lodge at, where'syour lodge at?
Yeah, and then they'll tell youhey, bro, this brother can't
handle this.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
They may not ask it that way.
They may not ask it that way,they may not say where's your
lodge?

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
at oh yeah, but it's cloudy so I didn't know.

Speaker 4 (01:13:59):
They'll say how old is your mother.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yeah, I didn't want to do that on that note, thank
you guys for showing up thisevening and building and making
knowledge born, as the guardswould say.
I really appreciated thispodcast right here.
This is very thorough threemasons and a five percenter

(01:14:24):
right.
Four live.
Three Masons and a 5% right fourlive as a matter of fact, three
Masons and a 5% more if youwant to put that together.
So thank y'all for showing upthis evening again, feel free to
always plug your social medias.

(01:14:47):
Everything you don't wantpeople to follow you or find you
.
Plug all of that.
I don't mind Super chat, share,subscribe, etc.
Catch y'all on the next one.
See y'all tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
The next one.
See y'all tomorrow, peace,peace.

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