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Speaker 1 (00:11):
What's going on,
everybody?
It's Marlboro LMT, the people'sfitness professional aka soul
brother number one, reportingfor duty.
I am here with King L aka Crypt.
Jesus Cosmo L, your host sheet.
I hope I said that, right,brotherka, jesus Cosmo L,
yahoshi.
I hope I said that rightbrother, oh my God.
Islam.
Right now.
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They're about to have adiscussion.
I'm going to play thebackground.
This is between the twobrothers and the moderator.
I am out of here.
Peace to y'all.
Brother Cosmo L, take it away.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Peace and love, peace
and love.
Welcome to this special editionof NYP where we have this
dialogue between our brothers,morris, brothers from various
tribes, to iron out nationhoodbusiness.
When I posted this on my wall,I put nationhood over tribalism
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and I pray that this is whatcomes out of this.
It's a very sensitive topicbecause there's a lot of history
involved with this, and so thisshow is needed because, without
addressing it in a public forumand giving clarity to all sides
, it can fracture the movement,it can fracture the community.
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This may be foreign to somethat aren't associated with this
culture and or what some mightcall subculture, but we're gonna
have this dialogue, thisdiscourse, today.
So, uh, I want to greet mybrothers, uh, brothers rivers
ill, brothers, bishop ill.
Uh, peace to you all, islam,and uh, welcome on onto the
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platform peace and love peace.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Thank you for having
me.
It's long, it's, long it's long.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
So we're going to go
right into it, because I know
everybody's wondering why are weeven having this show?
How did this show come about?
Yeah, and who you all are.
So before we begin, let's takeabout, you know, two to three
minutes to just introduceyourselves, give a little
background of who you are andwhat you're doing, and then we
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can go into why the show evencame about.
We'll start with Brother BishopL Islam.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Islam.
As-salamu alaykum, washingtonEast, I'm your host, bishop L
Day.
My affiliation was More Signs,temple 101.
Peace and blessings be upon myelders, Victor Taylor L, grand
Sheik Bayon Bay and Grand SheikSherifut.
Out of North Carolina, I'mcurrently in North Carolina
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Republic.
I'm an activist.
I do a lot of things in thecommunity for the youth.
I have my own homeschool, Ihave my own business, I'm doing
subcontracting.
I'm on the Human Rights Board,international Review Board for
the youth, on the city councilboard in my city, raleigh, north
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Carolina.
I just do a lot of things inthe community.
I come from the struggle and theexperience of the street life
so I can correlate with mybrothers and sisters.
I am also a community courtadvocate so I go in the
courtroom legally to advocatefor children that have
behavioral problems, havebehavior problems.
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I'm certified by the state ofnorth carolina.
I'm not to get on legal lease,but you know things of that
nature.
If I could benefit them, theycan come to my program.
You know I can help them getout of trouble.
You know you can do away withthe charges they've been,
they're being charged with.
But uh, that's me.
I'm still active in mycommunity.
Um, peace, love and light.
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I slag a leg on to all mybrothers um and fraternal
greetings to my moore's rightbrothers peace and love.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Peace and love and uh
, brother riversdale okay, uh,
yeah, I'm uh, my honorable name,you know, brother riversdale um
, also known throughout manycircles by my righteous
attributes from the 5% Nation ofKing El Ala, called a lot of
controversy for the L and Icould even say quite popular
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public relationship with theMortar Science Temple for years
now, before I even became acardholder or an actual temple
member.
So it's mostly been under myDBA, which is Crypt Jesus you
feel what I'm saying which has astory within itself.
I guess we'll end up gettinginto and just keeping in light
what you said.
I ended up here today because Ican't even sing a lot to
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Brother, even though he's theone that's here to speak, but it
seemed from what I was told itwas several posts made with some
differences voiced about, youknow, the products I sell, the
use of the term Crip and Blueand the information that I sell
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you know with my products.
So that's how I ended up here.
I've been doing my thing withwhat I call the Black Illuminati
and the TV started about fiveyears ago.
So with that it's been a lot ofinformation that I teach Comes
from out the Morissette Temple Ihave.
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You know what I mean.
So I think there's somepushback to.
You know they call it mixing itor whatever, I don't know.
So that's you know.
I it mixing it or whatever, Idon't know.
So that's you know.
I've been called.
You know on the chopping block,kind of I'm in court today, so
that's why I'm here islam, islam.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
so, uh, yes, there
were some.
So you, you are the, uh, youproduce music.
Both of you all, uh, producemusic, produce hip-hop, and uh,
they're under the name Brotherof Crip Jesus.
You also are an author thatwrote the Blue Bible and other
books, and because of the nameCrip Jesus and the Blue Bible,
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it has drawn a little bit ofheat from some in the Morris
community.
I can attest to the fact therewas a post that was put up about
Morris on the West Coast,following the Crip Jesus, so to
speak, and then, because of thenature of tribalism, those who
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were not affiliated with Cripshad some issue with that.
And then it culminated in someposts and some go back between
you and Brother Bishop Ill.
I was called into it and youknow I was tagged in one of the
posts and eventually itculminated in making this
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dialogue public.
And so before we go well, let'sjust get into the subject.
Within the Moorish Americancommunity, you have people
coming from diverse walks oflife, from the prison bows to
the heads of courts, to the ismsand schisms of the Christian
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churches, from gang life,ex-drug users, ex-prostitutes.
Just like with any society,people come from all walks of
life.
And so when you have a diversemembership like this and in
relationship to tribalism, wherewe come from on the West Coast
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and on the East Coast, tribalismplays a large role for us
growing up in the communitiesand there's a lot of loyalties
placed on that, and so when wecome to the Moorish community, a
lot of emphasis is placed onour nationhood and solving the
divisions that arise fromtribalism and that arise from,
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in some regards, willie Lynch,from whether it be light, dark,
tall, short man, woman and inthis case, blood or crip or any
other type of rivalry out there.
So I want to go to you, brotherBishop Ill, to explain and go
into what were some of thereservations that you had with
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Brother Crip Jesus and what madeyou speak up on the post that
was floating around on the postthat was floating around it's
long.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
So I've been hearing
about the brother.
You know the good works he done, one of my brothers out of
Florida.
You know they mentioned like Iran into Crip Jesus whether it
was online or in person.
I guess they had a build orwhatnot and I guess they
demonstrated.
So he is like what I was toldCrip Jesus wanted to send me his
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book.
So he sent the brother the book.
The brother sent it to me.
I got it, you know, honorable,very informative.
But then I started seeing otherposters.
Like you know, this is CripMorris, movement XYZ.
I had a couple Moabs ask me aquestion likerip Morris,
movement XYZ.
I had a couple more abs ask mea question.
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Like yo Mo, we mixing, what'sthis about?
So I go live, responded on apublic platform.
You know I made the post.
I'm like we're not following aMorris Crip.
What the F are y'all doing?
This is stupidity.
I said it did more duediligence but I the post already
out there, so that's why we'rehere now.
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So you know I dropped the post.
You know a lot of more was awareof the post and they started
engaging in common and xyz, andyou know the brother got up
there trying to defend himselfand you know it transpired and
it kind of got nasty in thebeginning.
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I ain't going to hold you, meand the brother, we went back
and forth.
I mean at that time we was ongame time.
I can say that I mean like anEast-West type thing.
I mean we just back and forth,but the conversation that's kind
of between me and him and howthat went, but we kind of dumb
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it down.
So you know that's why we'rehere now.
I mean I still have myquestions for the brother.
As far as you know the prophet,jesus Christian in front of his
name, and you know the blue god,the, you know.
I just want insight of you knowit looked like a a crypt
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situation.
I'm just being real.
I mean the blue god, the bluetain and um crypt jesus.
And you know dealing with myelders and how I was taught I
couldn't put blood Muhammad oryou know what I mean blood
Confucius, or I couldn't come ina temple with a red flag on,
and you know you leave thatstuff at the door when you come
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in.
As a Muslim, you're a Muslim,whether they're Hoover, crip,
blood, gd, whatever.
When we offer Salat, we'reMuslims, we're only submissive
to the great God Allah.
When we offer salat, we'reMuslims.
We're only submissive to thegreat God of law.
So you know, I can't tell thebrother what to do or how to go
about it, because he has freewill.
So that's still my Moorishbrother.
So now you know, I just wanthim to enlighten me on his
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behalf how he feels about usingCrip Jesus.
And you know the blue God, jesus.
And you know the blue God.
And you know more insight aboutthat.
You know, because I'd bechastised by my elder if I came
in on some blood Muhammad.
Or you know what is the blueBible about which?
I know what that's about.
It's a wonderful, like I said,but homies on the outside that
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are more than like blue Bible,they might not read it just
because of the title.
And you know they might notread it just because of the
title.
And you know that might beignorant, but I'm like blue
Bible, I ain't reading that.
I had most like yo.
You need to come out with thered Bible Like I'm not doing
that either.
You feel me Like I'm not ablood Muhammad.
You know the prophet told us tohonor all four divine prophets
Jesus, muhammad, buddha,confucius and the many more that
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are the martyrs.
So you know, that's where I lieat with that situation.
You know, give the brother thefloor to.
You know, give me insight, Imean, what comes behind it.
You know things of that nature.
You know and I ain't here tobelittle, because that's my
Morris brothers Islam we livelove, truth, peace, freedom.
So we're going to stand on thatat the end of the day, islam,
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Islam Brother Brevisel, we giveyou some time to go into.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I mean, what is?
We all have our strategies onhow we begin to teach and how we
process the science.
So what's the science?
What's the science on how youdemonstrate and what is it?
And what's the science, what'sthe science on how you
demonstrating and and what is itand what's the intention behind
it?
What do you help, help, hope togain from it and and what are
you gaining from it?
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And how did it start?
How did it actually come aboutthat you decided to use that
name islam?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
islam.
I want to thank you for givingme this opportunity and honors
to the brother because, uh, youknow, as a Prince, as his title
you know, inquires, uh, it wouldnot be of truth to see
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something like that, havequestions about it and just be
like, oh well, you know, that'sjust his style.
You know, I don't agree withthat neither.
So I'm glad that we're havingthis discussion as opposed to, I
know, a lot of people just turna blind eye or may even say, oh
, I support it but don'tactually support it, because
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I've seen that when the back andforth were going on, I
respected the fact that he saidto people well, hey, y'all,
that's speaking up for him.
Do y'all have a copy of thebook?
Because I got a copy of thebook I'm speaking from.
You know what I'm saying.
So I respect that.
For me, it was not a plan, itwas not a mission, it was not
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even a thing.
You know, it's my reality.
The name Crypt Jesus was notsomething I came up with, like
Jesus means justice, it wasgiven to me.
Like I said, I started off thisjourney in prison.
At that time, just hearing theword more wouldn't necessarily
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shook me out of my boots.
I was taught that I was giventhat word when I was a kid you
understand what I'm saying by myfather watching Martin Lawrence
Black Knights and they keptcalling him more over and over.
He said you know what thatmeans.
Now he gave me an incorrectdefinition, but he still gave me
a definition.
He said it means black people,meaning my whole entire life.
Anyone I saw looked like me.
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I thought we were all Moors.
That wasn't a big old thing tome.
Okay.
Now when I joined the 5% Nationin prison, this kept coming up
over and over.
When I got to the understandingdegree the 1 through 14, it
says do you know why did we lethalf original man Columbus
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discover this part of the earth?
I found I'm a studier.
I knew that that was the Ninobrothers, a group of Moors.
When they said we tookJerusalem from the devil, I knew
I was Saladin the Moors.
When it talks about being arighteous, it was all these
different things.
So when I read in the plusdegrees, they had an article
called Saladin the Moors.
Right, when it talks aboutbeing a righteous, it was all
these different things.
So when I read in the PlusDegrees, they had an article
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called Gods in the Ghettotalking about Noble Jurali.
So the point of me bringing allthat up is this is in prison,
this is in an environment whereI'm not only crip but like
that's part of my survival,that's part of kind of all I
know, that's part of like mywhole makeup.
So even when I was releasedfrom prison and came back to la
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and you know I didn't have mamato go to, I didn't have any of
these things, you know, I meanit's not about a sad story, but
just my situation was I wasstill around crips.
You know I'm saying, and evenwhen I went to the temple, you
know when, just to support orjust to find out and learn
different information, it was inthe Crip hood.
You know what I mean.
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This is not things that I wasproud of.
This wasn't things that I said,okay, I'm going to get a blue
fez on purpose, or none of that.
It was me living my life, youknow, and what I see is, the
more I evolve, it's what I'mevolving into.
It seems to be a pressure fromeach pocket of the group about
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you know what mixes with what.
What I mean by that is when Istarted doing the music, one of
my first music videos.
Crips need jesus too.
Yeah, we're crips and all ofthat.
I mean, that's, that's ourreality.
But we have a moroccan flag allthrough the video.
You get what I'm saying.
Now what I'm getting is, likecertain people who are like, hey
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, I own more science, don'tmention you, you know Moors or
Novodron Lee, or don't wear afez or any of that unless it has
to do with this religion.
Then I get the five percenters.
That's like hey, don't mentionGod or the mathematics or any of
that unless it's under thisumbrella or whatever.
That's not how it was given tome.
I can't help that when I gotPeace Guide and all of that, it
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was all taught to me.
It was taught to me by someCrips.
I can't help that when I wasfirst hearing about the Moors or
Yacoub al-Mansur or thesedifferent wars, it was in prison
, it was in the Crips, it was inthe Crip hood.
So this name was given to me inDetroit, like I talk about in
the book.
And when the name was given andI returned back to LA with it,
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it wasn't like, hey, let's havea mission, let's use it to sell
books, or nothing like that.
I got hands and feet put on me,and not for the name itself.
The name was used by me andother fiber centers like a
nickname.
But once I didn't want to be howI used to be.
Once I wanted to dress a littledifferent or talk about
different things more.
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It was never like I so much,just out of nowhere, as I
evolved right as I, as you cantell, I've been around the
temple more as I'm throwing thisand that in the video, it just
became an issue on all sides.
You know from the fiber centers, just like we see you around
the moors a lot from the.
You know from from the streets,it's like you know, uh, what's
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this new thing you're on.
And then from the moors, not somuch, but just certain moors,
like you said, may notunderstand what's going on.
It's like, uh, what's that?
I don't recognize that.
But the thing is, the science isso real.
You know where I come from theyhad presumed a lot of us in
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they had presumed a lot of us inour neighborhood has presumed
moral science was a blood thing.
In LA the moral science templehas a history of having a large
relationship with thoseorganizations that helped form
that side.
So some would presume that.
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But then, like I talk about inthe book, some of the first
pioneers of the blue side, likeDaneepu Kareem Bey, a
high-ranking Sikh in the morescience-tip of America.
So once these type of pieces ofinformation were given to me and
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it was obvious I had a certainstyle with the way I speak and
even a certain reality to myselfwith my relationship with Crips
or being around Crip Mac andbeing on no Jumper and all these
things.
It became obvious that it waskind of a job I had, you know,
just like me, and you spoke onthe phone, brother, if you know
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me, to know me is to know peace.
I'm not.
I have my side to me, don't getme wrong, but I'm just saying
it becomes obvious.
My goal is not like I'm finna,turn out, I'm finna, mix this
together.
There's nobody who studied mybook or my work.
In the last five years I've beendoing this that turned crip or,
you know, became a criphistorian, another that even my
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book itself I think I'll talkabout that type of stuff maybe
two chapters, three chapters,like you know.
I mean that's just the reality,that we can't turn our eye from
the reality if we're sayingwe're Moors and the Negro, black
and colored.
Our people don't know who orwhat they are.
We have to realize that, fastforward, 100 years later, that
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NBC now stands for Nations,bloods and Crips.
They're the same.
It's the same thing as Negroes,blacks and colors.
It's just the game version, youknow, and that's what this book
deals with.
Why is it blue instead of red?
I mean, why is it orange orpurple?
Right, it's through my lens,you feel me.
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And chapter one, I'm tellingthe Crips, it's the Moore wrote
the constitution for you.
Chapter two, I'm telling theCrips hey, we used to call each
other blood.
We were T Rogers.
Chapter three I'm telling so,really, any part of the book
where the Crips are evenmentioned, it's a storytelling
to call each other blood With TRogers, chapter 3, I'm telling
you.
So, really, any part of thebook where the Crips aren't even
mentioned, it's thestorytelling of me or us
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connecting with them.
It's the red flag, islam.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Islam.
So from what I'm getting isthat there's a lot more depth to
the name and that your goal isto build bridges in order for
Crips to be able to seethemselves in the Morris
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movement and in the Moorishhistory, and also by bringing up
T Rogers and mentioning thatCrips used to call themselves
Bloods.
That, in essence, what you'retrying to do, whether on purpose
or organically, is just expressyourself through your lens,
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while putting out positiveinformation about the Moorish
community and trying to bringsome correlation between that
and the identity of theneighborhood that you came from.
So now, that being said,brother Bishop Eel, brother
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Yehoshi had mentioned that youknow, as we step into this
nationality and we do proclaimourselves more that we tend to
leave certain things Well before.
I say that the main thing Ikept hearing from you was
evolution, evolution.
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You know you're still in anevolutionary process.
You're not where you want to beexactly we all evolve when we
first come in and that you'restill in an evolution and in
that evolutionary period.
This is what's coming outthrough your lens after being
impacted by the information, andbecause you are, uh, someone
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who is vocal and does music,this is how you expressing it.
So, uh, brother, bishop Bill,what?
What I would ask you is how doyou uh respond to him being in
this evolutionary place with it?
Um, because I do know that weall come in.
Not everybody jumps right intothe.
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You got some people jump intothe lessons and they I, they
ideas, I want to be a sheep, youknow, I want to be a grand
sheep or I want to be an adapt,and so they, they, their whole
persona changes Right.
But then you do have peoplethat are in that evolutionary
period.
You know they may have one footin, one foot out and they can't
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make that transition to whatwhat you know some might look at
the highest level ofparticipation in the movement,
the patient in the movement.
Uh, how do you respond to, uh,what the brother's saying?
And, uh, for people like thebrother that's still in an
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evolutionary period, and evenyourself, you know in an
evolutionary period, uh, of, of,of the movement, and then to
end up, you know, beingcriticized because you may not
be considered what some in themovement think you should be at
that particular point in timeIslam.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Islam.
Understanding his story, nowthat he broke it down, now I
mean I can say is gratitude andrespect, because you have to
elevate.
You know what I mean.
So the ones that don'tunderstand that it might took
him going to prison and beinglocked up and bumping shoulders
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with certain gods or Moors orMuslims, or you know it's
different names to the differentbodies.
But you know he's growing, he'sgraduating, so I don't see no
problem with that.
You know evolution is evolution.
You're gonna grow.
You're either gonna grow oryou're gonna die, you know I
mean.
So now that he's breaking itdown, now I will want him to go
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more to debts of what we we cancarry upon ourselves and what we
can't, because you're going tohave the oh you added crypto
Jesus, or oh you playinggangbanging on religion, or X, y
, z, and ones might not know.
That's the path we had to taketo get to where we at.
And even if you study theprophet, the prophet told you a
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lot of his powerhouses are goingto come outside of the temple.
That's going to be the streets,the ones that went through the
gladiator schools, prison, andyou know that's hand-in-hand
combat.
You got to.
You live in prison.
Anybody that did Tom closecustody or medium?
Know you probably got to sleepwith one eye open.
There's a war constantly goingon.
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So to walk the path that hewalked and myself and other
brothers just tuning in.
There's nothing wrong withgrowth I have no problem with
growth but we have to payattention to how we carry out
things because you know, I go tothe mosque with the sunni
muslims, I deal with the shiamuslims.
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You know I rotate.
I got brothers in differentsocieties but I know they would
eat this up.
They're, they're pushing bothof us out right now.
I know how they get the holymoly, you know.
Oh, don't add this to muhammad.
And you know why you put cripin front of jesus.
Or you know muslims make fivesalats a day, you know.
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But we have to continue to grow.
And I don't know who his eldersare.
You know.
I don't know if they teach himislam and islamism or our islam,
or how Muslims carry themselves.
You know titles is titles.
You know I came through the fold.
I went through the chambers X,y, z, everybody knows that.
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I stepped back because of theactivities I was dealing with.
The prophet said don't getcaught in the alleyway with your
fans on.
I took my fans off, I went anddid my thing.
So it ain't like the brothersdon't know what's going on.
The brothers elevated.
There's nothing wrong withelevating, but you have to be
careful of what you put out,because people are going to
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prosecute you.
It's just simple as that.
Oh, he say he's Crip Jesus.
Oh, he think he's Jesus.
Oh he a blue Jesus.
Oh you know, xyz.
I mean they're gonna come foryou.
I mean they're gonna criticizeyou.
They're gonna use religioustexts against you, not knowing
that the jesus spoke about inthe bible.
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He was with the murderers, theprostitutes.
He said ye, that have notsinned cast the first stone.
Oh, watch your mouth before youtalk about the next one.
Don't start throwing rocks, thewest start throwing bricks back
.
So you know, we know thestructure of chicago and the l
rookies and xyz.
And you know we're.
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We're really one empire, it'sone nation state, we're all
together.
Once we realize this, you knowblood's in the crypts.
If you check the history of whyit started, it wasn't to kill
or to sell drugs or just toprotect your community and
children.
When our people were beingsprayed with water holes, we had
to situate something to havesome type of defense because the
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religious society wasn't comingin defending us and our
community at that time.
That's just how we felt.
Now I mean, you got a lot ofbrothers that's not going to the
hood right now.
Islam brother, you know aboutyour nationality because they
scared they're not built likethat.
I mean, let's just be real.
So you got to give honors tobrother like him and myself.
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That a step in a society wherethey're still killing, they're
still dealing, they're stillprostitute, the ghost neighbor,
our people.
Because if you check your 101it says our purpose is to uplift
fallen humanity.
Fallen humanity is outside,it's not inside the mosque, it's
not inside the temple, it'soutside.
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That's called missionary work.
So I'm not knocking the brotherfor what he doing and how, the
way he went about it.
I think the brother should getmore in tune to the rules and
regulations.
Or you know the brother's goingto elevate.
I mean he's an intelligentbrother.
We done built.
I mean the ones that's making acomment just talking crazy,
(30:25):
whatever I mean.
But we done built.
I mean the ones that's making acomment just talking crazy,
whatever I mean.
But we done built.
And if you go check thebackground of both of us just
see the layout that we put putdown.
So this call was for unitunification.
It wasn't the start of warbetween the bloods and the crips
, the east versus the west.
It was to give y'all moreunderstanding, because a lot of
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y'all are judgmental oh, he's ablood or he's a crip, or he
can't be a Moor, or he can't bea Muslim.
We know you cannot serve twomasters.
You're only supposed to besubmissive to the will of Allah.
Whether you're a blood, you'rea crip, you don't submit to the
will of man, period.
Man can't give you life, he canbring you death, but I mean
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Allah is going to the last one.
On the judgment day Nobody'sgoing to be there to vouch for
you, not your homies, not yourfriends, not your daughters, not
your grand sheep.
Your sins will be weighed on ascale before the great God of
law.
So no, you can't serve twomasters.
But who said that you can't beaffiliated with an organization?
A lot of y'all affiliate withorganizations.
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You might work for anincorporation.
That means you're a member ofthat society.
You might be a travelingbrother, you're a member of that
society.
A lot of y'all affiliate withthings and y'all pinpoint what
you're going to affiliate withand what you can't.
It doesn't work like that.
Blood and Chris was neverestablished to poison, to kill
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or to destroy the community.
It was infiltrated just likeevery single organization in the
United States.
The MSTFA got it infiltrated.
There's an FBI file on that.
The nation is long done beinginfiltrated.
There's rats file on that.
The nation is being infiltrated.
There's rats, snitches, cats,dogs all over the nation.
Y'all not going to be able tostop it.
(32:13):
The thing is to build your selfcharacteristics.
We're about to sell.
That's what I start doing.
Yeah, I got online.
I made my post.
That's why we're here.
But if we're not building tounify or dealing with the five
principle of love, truth, peace,freedom and justice, what we
doing you want me to kill himbecause he's a crip and they got
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jesus in front of his name, butwe got our people islam islam.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Uh, not to cut your
wisdom, but I want to tap into
something that you said.
Number one I do want to pointout something which is pretty
interesting because to me youall are like two sides of this
same coin, because you know whenyou're growing up in the
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neighborhood, even if you're nota part of the.
Well, first let me say thislet's tap into what you said.
I think most people havereservations with the term crip
and the term blood because it'sassociated and known now as a
criminal organization and as agang.
(33:24):
But if you know the history ofthe Crips and the Bloods then
you understand it didn't startout that way and that's very
important that you pointed thatout, because they started out as
community organizations toprotect the community.
And I'm not going to go into allof that.
Ones can research that on theirown.
(33:45):
But it's a reason why Bloodscall themselves a nation, right.
It's the reason that Crips havea constitution, right.
It's the reason Crips cameafter the Black Panther Party.
And so one of the things that Iknow, and I want the brother of
River Zeal to go into, is thatknowing that history and even
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yourself knowing that history,it makes it uh, and once there
are a lot of people don't knowthat history, even people that's
involved in the set today, theydon't know that history.
So when you have a brother,brothers like yourselves that
are conscious of this history,and you're using a term like
Crip or even Prince and it'sfunny because you got Crip Jesus
(34:33):
and you got Prince YehoshuaYehoshua means Jesus and Jesus
is Jesus, and Prince is a titlethat is used on the ill-rooking
or you know, before it was aBlack, black peace stone side.
It's not limited to that, butfor those that know, it is
associated with that and thatparticular demonstration.
(34:56):
So it's very interesting andironic.
But the thing I want to pointout is that both of you brothers
, when you use the words, it'snot about being associated with
criminality, it's about raisingthe vibration of these groups
(35:17):
into knowing that they didn'tcome from criminality and that
they did stem from somethingthat was positive and that was
actually good for the communityand that, if one's know the
history and they tap into thatroot, that now it becomes an
ability to transmute the wholeexistence of these hood
(35:42):
associations and to transmutethose names and to be associated
with something greater.
And we look at the BMF episodeand how they associated even the
term more itself withcriminality, to the point where
people see more now theyassociated with criminality.
(36:04):
But there's always two sides tothe coin and what you all are
representing is not thatcriminality but a way to buy by
spreading knowledge and knowingthe history to transmute those
terms.
So, brother Riversdale, I wantto speak.
Speaker 2 (36:21):
I do represent that
criminality.
I'm not going to let thesepeople punch me.
Okay, my mom smoked crack.
I dropped out of high school.
I did 15 years in prison andfor y'all to accept me, y'all
want me to hide that.
Y'all want me to not mentionthat.
Y'all want me to act like itnever happened.
And y'all want me to turn oneveryone I met along that path,
(36:43):
everyone that helped me get tothis point.
Y'all want me to turn on themand say I'm a more now, I'm
better than you.
Don't speak to me and that'sfoul.
And what this writing, this book, has proven to me is a lot of
y'all that I looked up to arenot who y'all claim to be.
Y'all are elitists.
That's the sickness that runsthroughout many temples of all
(37:05):
type of organizations, andthat's why I'm glad I allowed
being the best planner.
I didn't get to thisinformation just out the blue.
I had to go through the fivepercent first.
I mean I had to take an oath to, even against the five percent
themselves, to always reveal thetruth of any organization I'm a
part of.
I was taught that 85% of anyorganization I join will always
(37:28):
be just followers.
So the truth of the matter is alot of people who would meet me
and love me would hear thatword and get turned off.
That's the truth.
Because if it was, Mexican.
Jesus, filipino Jesus, hawaiianJesus.
Oh, and he's talking about some, some, some Asian stuff, oh
(37:51):
yeah yeah, yeah, that matcheswhat I believe.
I don't know nothing about that.
Ain't that that nifty hustlestuff?
Oh, we don't need them to bemore.
Let them die, let them drown.
Keep them away from me.
Like the brother Prince said,I'm scared of them.
You think I'm not scared when Igo amongst my homies?
My homies ain't going to donothing to y'all, unless they
(38:14):
want to rob you.
I mean, most of y'all probablynever even had something happen
to y'all by one of my homies.
Let's be honest, you just goingto throw me in a pot with
everybody in the world.
No, you just going to throw mein a pot with everybody in the
world.
No, so my organization probablydone than any of these people
just hearing rumors of theorganization.
I'm not talking about Crick,because I don't represent all
Crick, but let's just grow withthat Crick even itself.
(38:35):
I've had nephews murdered bybuds.
I've had my brother's been shotby buds.
I've been chasing.
I'm not getting up here sayingget that red Moroccan flag out
my face, get that red fez up.
I'm going to grab mine rightnow.
Y'all can see millions ofpictures.
I ran through Crip Hoods withMoroccan flags and there wasn't
no tension.
(38:55):
The Crip stood right there withme smiled at do y'all not want
that Islam?
That's what I'm gettingconfused at, islam.
If somebody's in the commentssaying, oh, get that out of here
, we don't mix that with that.
If it wasn't mixed for you, whyare you married?
If I got five brothers righthere?
Because Prince Jehoshua said mybook made to him he's not a
(39:18):
crip, so it's.
It's goofy for anybody to evensay that if you ask me, it's for
them.
No, the book made to him and ittalked about bloods, stones.
It probably mentioned a page ortwo of words with crip
information see what it is.
They say don't judge a book byit's cover.
But I'm learning in the lastcouple years.
(39:39):
Everybody I know judges booksby they covers.
I've heard people lie and makeup what the book is about.
Oh, that's Blue Bible.
It's a Crip book.
That ain't.
No, it's not.
As a matter of fact, chapterone, where it's talking about my
Crip experience, it revealsthat I Knew nothing of what Crip
even meant.
Me being born in it, born andraised in it, never knew what it
(40:01):
meant Until I met Danifu KareemBey.
I see dudes in the comics.
That's cocky.
That think they know what itmeans, because they don't.
It's not community revolutionand progress.
That's right.
Everybody want to act like theyknow everything.
That's what's really going on.
See this Google age.
And it ain't got nothing to dowith just youngsters.
A lot of our older ones isdoing it.
They think they know everything.
(40:23):
We're not talking aboutintelligence, no more.
You could have went to 10colleges and may not know what's
in this book, because this isdealing with information that's
not in the books and that's afact.
Is there some jealousy there?
Oh the more can't have noinformation I can't have.
No, it's not no book talkingabout the need for Korean Bay,
about the need for kareem bayand california there's not.
(40:44):
There's not too many bookstalking about jeff for the
connection with gaddafi and howwe were in california prisons
learned about gaddafi thanks tojeff for bringing the more stuff
to the streets.
There's no disrespect to thetemple wars, but I'm saying
there's wars in the streets.
Brought some information thatgot some dudes in the streets.
There's dudes in temples rightnow that joined because ofh shh.
Don't talk about that aroundthe other Moors.
(41:05):
That's what it's become.
It's like religion.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Islam.
Let me interject there.
And I do want to clarify when Isay represent, I don't mean
don't come from that background,because we all come from that
background.
What I mean is we're notputting fezzes on blue or
otherwise, and what I mean iswe're not putting fezzes on blue
or otherwise and doing crime.
You know, publicly and outthere, because it's a high
(41:29):
vibration, like you say, it's tobring the information to the
people.
You can't, you can bring themto the water, you can't make
them drink, but I mean actuallyrepresenting it now, you know,
and doing things that would beabhorrent, you know, to the
actual movement itself.
What I see you all doing isspreading knowledge and even in
(41:54):
the music, you know, the musicthat's out there is teaching
hatred, slander, lewdness,murder, theft and everything
that harms it's talking about,you know, actively being
involved in actual things thatyou know we're trying to get our
people out of.
So I appreciate you, you know,going into that, because we all
have backgrounds that we comefrom and we all elevate and at
(42:18):
least do our best to elevate, tomove from the negative parts of
our background, to elevate, tomove from the negative parts of
our background while being ableto keep the positive parts of
our background as much as we can, and that looks different for
everybody.
Before I go to you, brotherBishop Hill, I do want to say
you know, back in the day andit's tapping into something that
(42:40):
he said when coming from theneighborhoods, that I and you
know I came from Long Beach, butyou know which obviously you
know is, is, is, is blue, butthen I moved to the jungles and
stayed there for 20 years.
It was because of me being aMoor that I came into contact
with Brother T Rogers.
I came into contact withBrother T Rogers and when there
(43:03):
was friction between thosecoming from other neighborhoods
into the jungles, then a meetingwas held and Brother T Rogers
made the peace and said no, ifthese people are all, if they
mores, then it don't matter thatthe tribalism, we moving out of
the tribalism into somethinghigher.
And so you know, peace in this,in this neighborhood right here
(43:33):
.
So um, but when I came in, alot of, a lot of uh Crips didn't
want to be Moors because of thered feds and the red flag and
association with uh Jeff Fortand the P stones, until uh, one
of the pioneers in spreadingthat information to get ones to
see that it wasn't about that,that the root of it was noble
Jew Ali.
But yeah, each nation, eachtribe, is going to get knowledge
(43:56):
from where they get knowledgefrom and they're going to try to
help elevate their tribe.
And so in that transition, youknow, a lot of things become
associated with one thing oranother.
Eventually, brothers andsisters understood.
And now in California today,well, in some, in some areas, it
still is associated, but forthe most part, people know it's.
It's bigger than that right.
(44:18):
Some of the signs and symbolsthat we have get used sometimes
and then get and people only getit from the ones that's using
it but never know the root.
And so I want to bring it toyou first and then back to you,
brother.
Uh, uh, uh, riversdale, crip,jesus and Prince Yahoshi, uh,
what is the?
How do you go about making surethat brothers and sisters from
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you know, coming from thebackground that you come from,
that brothers and sisters knowthe root and the difference
between the root and thebranches that may come from the
root?
Speaker 2 (45:00):
You want me to go?
Speaker 3 (45:00):
first you just went,
so I'm gonna let the brother go
and then we're gonna come rightback to you islam, grand sheik,
um.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
A lot of brothers I
have took to take their shahada,
you know, and a lot of themcome from different walks of
life, crypt, blood, black kingson different societies.
I break down the science tothem.
But all of this coordinatesback to what the prophet wrote
down to us.
You know what I mean.
The East Coast, you bang thefive.
The five stand for love, truth,peace, freedom and justice.
(45:36):
You have sun and represent thesix point stars.
We know what that get into,whether they want to call it
gangbanger.
We never created the term gang.
That is a federal term.
So I try to go into thecommunity and break these things
down.
We're the same people.
We're being eaten by the samebeast when that cop pull you
over.
You're not a blood, you're nota crip, you're not a more.
(45:58):
You're considered as a negrotown.
You got your license,registration, I mean everything,
got insurance on your car.
So we're being dealt with asthe same.
It's the same program.
It don't change.
But you know, like you said, wecome from different tribes and
different backgrounds.
If I grew up in a Damuneighborhood, nine times out of
(46:18):
ten I'm going to be Damu.
If you grew up in Beverly Hills.
That's the lifestyle you live.
If you grew up in Beverly Hills, that's the lifestyle you live.
So that's probably the peopleyou have to deal with.
You know, I respect that.
The brother ran around the CripHill with the Moroccan flag.
It ain't too many people doingthat.
I mean I go in the communityand tell people I'm a Moor.
I mean I kind of popped it offin North Carolina for setting a
(46:42):
trend for that.
I mean I got Crips, bloods, gds.
We all came together and wepracticed Islam.
And some people might say, oh,you're not a member or you're
not a Muslim.
But Allah didn't give you theauthority to say who and what,
when, where and how, and it's inthe Quran.
You can't tell another Muslimthat he's not a Muslim, or you
(47:04):
just say that he's not Muslim,he's not a Muslim or he's not
practicing Islam.
So we all go through ourstruggles.
We have trials and tribulations.
That's why we got to wherewe're at now.
Some of my homies are dead.
Like he said, some of my homiesgot killed by Crips.
Some of my homies got killed byCrips.
Some of my homies got killed byBloods.
You know what I mean.
(47:25):
Some of my homies got killed bycivilians.
There's some of my homies.
That's in the feds now.
But you know, allah took methrough my path for a reason.
I can reach the people in mycommunity, crip Jesus can reach
the people in his community.
You can't come in there and doit.
You're not from here.
You can't come in there and doit.
You're not from here.
(47:45):
You know what I mean.
You don't have no ties here.
You can't come over here andteach our people.
I tell students all the timedon't come from another state
trying to establish somethinghere.
You're not even out here.
You ain't even stepped on thesoil.
Like he said, I read in a book.
By the cover, you got tattooson your face.
In the al-quran it tells youyou should have tattoos and I'm
(48:07):
sorry it already happened beforeI got into all this.
I have a story that happened tome before I got into all of
this.
So you have to keep striving toelevate.
And when you went, when yourpeople see that you was in the
streets busting your gun dearTom, you was a shaitan, a devil
running around the streets, andthe great God of Allah can
(48:30):
change you and your ways thenyou set an example, because now
everybody else around you likeman?
Who is the great God thatchanged him?
Man, how do I get on thisBrother?
What's the thing?
Who's Noah, drew, ali?
Hey brother, teach me, teach meabout stuff that they don't
(48:50):
teach us in school Credit,estates, dba, things of that
nature.
We're not dumb.
You think we're dumb because welook like this.
I know about credit trade lines, foreign exchange, stock market
, market, xyz.
There we go judging a book by acover.
I mean, open a book and read it.
(49:11):
Most people are reallyilliterate.
They don't read, they don'thave an understanding.
They're very judgmental.
That's why a lot of our peoplebe like you know what?
I don't want to be a part ofthat because I always got
something to say.
But you won't come to ourcommunity and tell them y'all,
not mores, we're better than you.
Yeah, now, I mean, we don'taccept that way of life here.
(49:31):
Xyz.
Jesus in the bible dealt withprostitutes.
He dealt with murderers.
I mean that's prophesizing theone that can go in a community
which is a risk of dying.
I mean because you got haterseverywhere.
But when brothers they likeevery day and go in the hood,
(49:55):
the ghetto, to drop the Jews onour youth.
I slide through my hood all thetime, brothers out there on
crack everything.
I make sure they have water andeverything and keep them
pushing.
I don't put it on the internetfor what?
But I don't see these othermoors out here, or you know
everybody that got something tosay You're not active in the
community, you're scared, sodon't hide behind the prophet.
(50:18):
The prophet said keep me outfront.
He didn't say hide behind me.
So a lot of people be hidingbehind the teachings.
I'm willing to die behind thescience.
That's a fact and that's thequestion you got to ask the rest
of these people are you ready?
Are you willing to die behindthe dean?
Speaker 3 (50:37):
it's line we're gonna
say we go, that's, that's,
that's profound.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
Right there, brother,
uh riversdale listen, if I was
an ex-alcoholic, no one wouldsay anything about me saying,
hey, ex-alcoholic friends, lookwhat I learned.
If I was an ex-crackhead they'dbe like that's right, stand
around them, other crackheads,and lift them up.
But the truth is the brotherjust said something so cold.
(51:02):
A lot of these people arehiding behind moral science,
hiding behind the prophet.
A lot of them are hiding theirhatred for other brothers and
sisters and it comes out as oh,f that Crippin' Blood and Paru
and all that stuff.
You know how many people youjust said F, mm, and you know
(51:22):
that they're aware of that.
We're not going to play dumb uphere tonight.
This is a way to gangbang.
It is, bro, and I'm here totell y'all moore's comedic five
percent, whoever's watchingy'all conscious community, black
conscious community.
Y'all the y'all worse thangangbangers, can we?
(51:42):
get a bomb on that.
I could probably walk aroundthe corner to the blood hood and
say I'm a little whoopty whoop.
They might let me slide as longas I don't do no, nothing crazy
, but the way y'all act, the wayy'all turned y'all neck and
nose is crazy.
How y'all going to cleananybody up if y'all act like
that?
So I don't even believe a lotof these people are cleaning
people up.
A lot of these people arejoining these groups To meet
(52:04):
other people.
Oh, you like me, you like me.
Oh, cool, it's social groups.
Yeah, we better than them.
Huh, yeah, the prophet.
Yeah, yeah, the prophet.
Let's trade money together.
Let's not go help nobody,though.
You know all these people thatwe argue about the internet all
day.
They didn't have the internet.
They really went outside andtalked to people, and I don't
think they went outside and gotthousands and thousands of
(52:26):
people to follow them by arguingall day or by talking about who
they going to leave out.
A lot of people are fake, and Iain't scared to say it and I'm
not going to take my energy all,oh, excuse me, no, don't, I'm
just trying to.
I'm not trying to nothing, I'mthe streets, I'm the one y'all
rejected.
(52:46):
This is what happens when youreject groups of people for 50,
60 years.
They become marginalized.
Speaker 3 (52:52):
It's long it's like,
yeah, real quick.
So now go ahead, go aheadbrother, marginalized group.
Speaker 2 (52:58):
Grab a piece of
information and you mad about it
.
I'm from the marginalizedgroups in la.
I'm not from the establishedcloak.
I didn't turn my back on themoral science.
I wasn't born intorighteousness and fell off.
I was, I wasn't, I wasn't.
I didn't fall from heaven.
I rose from hell.
And y'all telling me, don'trise, nobody up with me.
(53:20):
Well, I, I got news for you.
It's more coming, so get ready.
Speaker 3 (53:25):
Islam.
Islam and when I was on thefirst show here on NYP and he
was asking me about Los Angelesback in the day and I told him
about the term, what we callbody banging, and body banging
is when different Moorish bodiesget together and do what the
streets do they body bang, theyhave rivalries, they have people
(53:50):
that that they like toostracize or marginalize from
the community based on theirbackground, so on and so forth.
So I'm glad you brought that upthat a lot of times with people
who are sent here to uplift orwho are supposed to be joining
the more science temple ofAmerica to be uplift and fall in
community.
Uplift and fall in humanity areoften the ones who take an
(54:16):
elitist persona and that makepeople who actually come up from
the neighborhoods not want tobe involved.
Because one thing is you knowfake people.
You come from the hood, youknow what a hater is, you know
what a fake person is.
You know and you're going tomeet these in the more science
(54:39):
temple of America.
You got haters, you got fakepeople.
But the prophet said we got tolearn how to love.
Learn how to love instead ofhate, because we coming in with
the hate, we coming in with theshackles and crutches of unrest,
of mental slavery that we comein.
(55:00):
So you're going to find peopleon different levels along the
way.
So sometimes you might comeinto a temple, the one that
might be hating they might onlybe two, three weeks in, you know
and so, yeah, they still gothate on them because they knew.
You know, you have people that.
(55:22):
But then you also have peoplethat's been there for 10 years
that have never got that hate upout of them and, especially if
they are grand chic, they passthat hate down to their
followers and you got some ofthese grand chics online.
That's all they do is hate.
Now they call it something else, but when you look at their
(55:43):
students, their students do thesame thing.
They hate.
So, and I think that theoriginal post that brought this
(56:04):
about, I don it where I said,when you argue and go back and
forth and, in essence, hate oneach other inside your own
movement, you should expectothers outside of the movement
to do the same thing, becauseyou're establishing that culture
.
They see what you're doing andthey see that, hey, this is how
it goes, and they see that, hey,this is how it goes.
So it's important to understandthat not everybody is on the
(56:27):
same level, when it's people whoare new to the demonstration
(56:49):
and just getting the knowledge,and they and understanding that.
You know you don't justproclaim your nationality and
become super more overnight, norshould you have to cut off your
relations from where you comefrom, because those are the
people that you duty bound touplift.
You know islam.
You want to say something, andthen I'm going to go back to
Brother Yehoshi.
Speaker 2 (57:07):
Because it seems to
be a constant theme of you know,
you're just getting here oryou're just.
I want you to understand too.
There is information Allthroughout this book that's left
out of formal teachings due tothis whole thing with the
streets.
There's not too much.
More is literally going to getthis talking about Jeff Ford or
(57:28):
any of that.
Let's just be honest, bro.
So I understand.
Oh, you hear that.
But no, there's informationLike, don't be that cocky Y'all,
there's a lot of informationhere that's not available due to
this type of attitude.
You get what I'm saying.
It's that the science aboutDonnie Foo, kareem Baines, you
get it that's not readilyavailable.
(57:50):
You get what I'm saying.
These things are tucked underthe load.
Okay, so it's got to do withthe encryption, even though it's
going to Jet Force in Chicago.
Well, that's kind of bad, youknow so, okay, well, hey, hey,
I'm not saying this is my ownthing.
This is a book.
This is not a curriculum.
This is not no, so you know, Imean what it is is.
(58:10):
I'm really kind of shocked andsurprised at the level of
pushback from our people.
I didn't think we had I, Ididn't think we were that far
behind, like, like the left,like for people who carry these
names and dress up and put allthese oils on to just go
straight into ready to hurt youmode, just at the mention of a
word that's scary to me.
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We got a lot of work to do, alot of work to do.
I didn't say I was locked upfor hurting children or nothing
like that.
All I said was I grew up in LA,it was a crib.
People in these comments theyready to hurt me, people who I
know probably never met.
Some crips.
It's ridiculous.
Off the TV I seen Snoop before.
Ooh, I just want to.
Ah, it's crazy.
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So we got a lot of work to do.
A lot of people want to berighteous.
Speaker 3 (58:57):
Ain't there yet.
Islam brother, Bishop here thebishop here.
Speaker 4 (59:08):
Yeah, like the
brother said, like it's very
disturbing.
I ain't gonna lie to you andyou know a lot of stuff that
took place with some of theseelders and sheik.
That's why I stepped away fromthe more science of america.
And it wasn't for the prophetor uh, how he set up the temple,
it was the administration.
I mean y'all so judgmental,even in the comments, like you
know what I mean.
Like just become a member andyou know what I mean.
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That's just what it is.
Hey, bro, life is bigger thanthat.
You know what I mean.
Some of us got children.
We grinding, we get to a bag.
If something wasn't happening tome right now, half of y'all
wouldn't drop a dime.
So I mean you just got to bereal about what's going on in
the reality.
And even dealing with theprophet some of his own moors
has something to do with himbeing murdered.
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I mean it's just a lot ofthings that's not being talked
about or being put on the table.
You did what I'm saying likeyou.
Still, you have negroes in theMoorish society.
That's what it is.
A lot of y'all trying to pointthe finger at us and we're the
young Moors that the prophet wastalking about.
He said we're coming in andy'all going to have to get to
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the back.
And I promise you ain't got nochoice but to get to the back
because your knowledge and whatyou know is outdated.
We're in a new society now.
Like the brother said, it'scrazy how far we are behind.
You know what I mean.
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We've been supposed to havecolleges and hospitals and
herbal medicine centers and X, y, z, and be one of the fastest
growing ancient nation here inAmerica.
And it's so wild If you look atall these different
nationalities that come here.
They building on our landChinese stores, one in every
city Now I mean the Jamaicanshere.
The Asians here I mean theAfricans.
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They come with the braidingstore, now I mean they're coming
with international trades andeconomics.
These are the things we'resupposed to be building on
unified, instead of hating oneach other.
If there's a million mores inAmerica right now and I want you
to hear me, this iseconomically If it's one million
mores in America right now, weestablish a trust bank account,
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we drop $1 a month.
That's a million dollarsmonthly.
You dig what I'm saying, butthese are the conversations I
want to talk about.
Our people love drama.
Oh look at him, get him outdoing that.
Oh he on that crip or he bloodin there.
You mad because you can't do it, because you ain't survive.
Only the strong survive.
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You ain't never been in.
You ain't never had hot lead gothrough your body.
I done been shot five times.
Praise Allah that I'm stillhere.
So I done felt the pain.
I done been through the fire.
I done studied the differentlessons the 120th degree, the
depth chambers, the comedicscience, the Hebrew-Israelite,
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the 66 chapters in the Bible,the credit situation,
international trade, trustestates, will testaments.
I'm on my spirituality,kudalini grounding XYZ.
I'm really a nerd.
I love information, I lovebuilding, I love the science,
but people are so judgmental.
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He got tattoos on his face.
Face, or he probably killedsomebody, or he did this, or
he's a bad guy.
I got four daughters and oneson.
They love me to death.
I give them the world.
So the worldly love doesn'tmean nothing to me, because the
prophet said we live the fiveprinciple love, truth, peace,
freedom and If people continueto play with you, turn around
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and drop the world on them.
I studied a prophet.
He told us that he's going tokeep the Albions here long
enough so we can take the seat.
Y'all not hearing what he'ssaying?
Go get a European education.
Learn how to be the senator,house of representative to
change the laws, so we can takeback and make this the republic.
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Most people don't see it thatway.
They're too busy bashing eachother.
Know what I mean?
The titles, the titles, thetitles, the titles.
Know what I mean?
A grand chief is nothing but aservant to his people.
A chief is a servant to hispeople.
A chief is a servant to hispeople.
A CEO is a servant to hisconsumers.
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Period.
Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
Islam, islam.
So let me ask y'all what do youwant?
As you're speaking to thepeople, you see it's more zone
here.
You know you didn't expresspeople.
You see it's more zone here.
You know you didn't expressyour your, you know, cause this,
this show, was about being ableto give y'all y'all have your
own voice on your own platformsand everything.
(01:03:54):
But since this issue came up toactually deal with it, you know
, in terms of the Morriscommunity and the pushback that
you get from the Morriscommunity and just being men and
just being what you do you knowwhat I'm saying Doing what you
do to feed your families and todemonstrate and to move in
science how you see fit.
You know what.
What do you want?
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What do you want to come fromthis dialogue and what do you
want?
I mean, you're already kind ofexpressing it, but to kind of
sum it up a little bit, what doyou want to come from this
dialogue and what do you want?
I mean you already kind ofexpressing it, but to kind of
sum it up a little bit, what doyou want?
The Moors, whether they be agrand sheik or just a Moor, what
do you want them to be?
What do you want the takeawaysto be from this dialogue?
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And you know how do you, how doyou think that they could be
more productive?
And how they deal with peoplethat come from backgrounds that
they may not come from and theydon't understand or that they
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think is, you know, they may notwant to be associated with.
What is their job in that case?
What is their role?
How should Morris be looking atone another, regardless of the
backgrounds that they come from?
Because, at the end of the day,whether you come in a year ago,
five years ago, 10 years ago,the goal is nationhood.
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But nationhood don't mean thatyou lose and nation history
don't mean that you lose yourindividual history and your
individual self.
You got different layers ofself.
You got the self mental,physical and spiritual, and
(01:05:41):
Brother Nye McBarr wrote a goodbook called the Community of
Self.
So some people think, when youcome into the community of self
or when you come into the nationof self, so some people think,
when you come into the communityof self or when you come into
the nation of self, that you'resupposed to lose the self that
you already are.
And so what do you want peopleto understand about individuals
coming in with their backgrounds, who they are and how it
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relates to the national self andhow they can do a better job at
dealing with people that youknow they don't.
They think maybe it's not ontheir level.
Because that's what it's boileddown to a ball down exactly it
boiled down to ego I'm glad youget.
Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
That's exactly what
it is, you know that's what it
boiled down, so I'll let you.
Speaker 3 (01:06:24):
You got something.
It's that's exactly what it is.
You know that's what it boileddown, so I'll let you you got
something to say.
Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
It's the elitism,
it's like racism.
Basically it's the wholeclassism thing, like, oh, you're
from down there, you're one ofthem.
So here's the funny thing aboutthat right Is, no matter how
much they judge it, right, sheik, it's happening and it's not
new.
This is not an episode aboutsome random guy calling himself
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Crip G.
This is recognized, you canGoogle this.
This is AI, right?
So are we so cocky now thatthis is just me doing this?
Right, this is a divinemovement, right?
So everything involved in it isdivine.
So why the word Crip movement?
Right, so everything involvedin it is divine.
So why the word crip?
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See, we get stuck on the break.
It's like we start gangbangingthe letter community revolution.
No, come on y'all.
It's the sounds, the vibration,right, crip, check this out.
Let's go to the book, because Ikeep getting all excited and
talking.
Let's read.
That's the problem with theinternet we don't read, we just
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yell at each other.
Right, page 8 of the Blue Bible.
Pop Smoke, king Vine and PNBRock were all murdered by Crips.
So for all, y'all in thecomments keep saying let's leave
that stuff alone.
No, this needs to be talkedabout.
Get your head out the sand.
You're scared to save yourpeople.
But there's some people herethat's not.
So let's talk about it, becausethis is going on back to back
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to back.
Your kids know about it, yourgrandkids know about it.
Your cousin, your aunt, theyworry about it, but you ducking
it.
As long as I don't talk aboutit, it's just going to go away.
No long as I don't talk aboutit, it's just gonna go away.
No, pop smoke, king von and pnbrock were all murdered by crips
after joining the five percentnation.
The first man I taught hadtupac killer tattooed on his
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fingers.
Death is the spirit of crip.
The word itself isetymologically crypt.
So why would I lie?
Let this spread like?
Why would check this out?
A crypt is a room where a tombis placed.
This is a proper description ofmy neighborhood.
Everyone there is caught in acycle of death.
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Still, the fact remains.
As I showed and proved, allahis seen and heard in all worlds,
including the world of crypt.
Now, a crypt is not like a holein the ground, dead.
This is where you place a tombthat you're hoping to come back
alive.
You're expecting a resurrection, like Tales from the Crypt.
This is the ancestors in themausoleum.
Right, you're waiting for aresurrection, a crypt, a
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sepulcher, if you will.
This is where Jesus is supposedto be placed, right?
No one even peeps the science inmy name because y'all
gangbangers, they ain't evenrealize it.
But y'all claim y'all holy,y'all claim y'all high
scientists.
But there's only one man I met,dr Inky, that heard my name and
said oh, crip, like yeah, ohwow.
But all the high scientists,they say Crip, what cause?
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How do y'all even know?
Where did y'all out of townpeople even learn that Crip
meant that In the dictionary?
Crip mean what I'm saying righthere.
It's a place where you put adead person.
But y'all so caught up in thetelevision, in the rap songs, oh
, why you saying Crip the bluechucks and Snoop Dogg, that's
y'all doing that to yourself.
You should have heard cryptJesus and thought of a tomb and
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somebody resurrected out of it.
Hold on.
In 1974, raymond Washington wasincarcerated, placed in a tomb
and the bloods coalition began.
Two years prior, one ofWashington's homies Created the
constitution for the crypts.
His name is Donifu Kareem Bay.
Kareem Bay, hmm, kareem Bay.
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I heard legends about him inprison but could never confirm
if he or the Constitution werereal.
I personally confirmed hisexistence and that of the
original Crip Constitution byway of the Master Teacher, cosmo
L of the Morissette Temple ofAmerica.
According to Kareem Bay, cripswith the S mean originally See I
put originally.
So it's not about all thesedeaf and bad vibrations we
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placed on these words later.
Just like people took thesix-point star and made a
gangbanging, people took thefive-point star and made a
gangbanging, people took thefans and made a gang.
Anybody can take anything anddo that.
But what is it essentially?
And it's rude, cripton is rude,it's.
What is it essentially in itsroot?
Crypt in its root is not what wemake it up to be.
It represents dead waiting tobe awakened.
Regardless of what y'all get onthis live and say what you
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think it means, it don't meanthat.
It means what it was made tomean.
I thought we was the etymologykings and queens.
It's like all the science goout the window when it's time to
persecute somebody.
So nah, bro, crypt mean what itmean.
It's the dead waiting to beresurrected.
And it was already written.
But our brain dead Negro, blackand colored selves didn't even
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hear what was being said, thatall through North America it was
brain dead, negro, blacks andcolors waiting for this Jesus,
this justice, and what?
Y'all mad because I'm giving itto him.
I'm asking for help.
I can't do it myself.
Oh, we don't want to do it.
That's the crip stuff.
Well, I didn't have hands andfeet put on me for it.
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I'll do it again, again, again,again.
You know why?
Because, like the brother said,who else gonna do it?
So then it meant communityrevolutionary, inter-party
services, right, a wholedifferent meaning.
Now, why did I have to gothrough all of that to learn
truth?
Because it's written in y'all.
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Okay, so in the Holy Quran ofthe Morissette Temple of America
, chapter 13, verse 14, doeseverybody know everything?
It's written.
I pray you, I pray he's beggingJesus.
I pray you, brothers, let me gointo your dismal crypts and I
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will pass the hardest of yourtests.
Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
Islam, islam.
I'm going to stop right there.
Y'all know I'm out here inHawaii and I'm off grid.
I got about seven more, exactlyseven, seven more energy in my
battery right now.
So, brother, bishop, we'regoing to let you get the last
word.
If we need to come back for apart two, then we can do that,
(01:12:40):
but let me give you two or threeminutes to wrap it up, or let's
make it two and then we go backto you two and then we'll close
it out and hopefully ourviewers have taken what you
brothers are saying and havetaken it to heart.
So, brother, bishop, islam,islam.
Speaker 4 (01:13:04):
I would like to quote
what Yahshua Hamashima said and
he said and that's what onesneed to look at they self.
This building is reallyrevolving around self.
I mean the elevation of thehigher self and the lower self
must die.
If you really go back and readthe more uh quran, questionnaire
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101, study the questions, don'tjust read and recite it.
Who made you allah?
Can you see him?
Know where's the nearest part?
You can meet him in your heart.
So really tap in.
The prophet told us to beourself.
The prophet didn't tell me tocome in here and act all holy.
I'm islamo.
What you got going on and yehe-haw, we not doing that.
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I'm being myself.
I'm speaking my truth and mylanguage.
I'm going to reach societiesand places that a lot can't do.
Don't get mad at me because I'mgoing to change my environment.
I was a product of myenvironment, killing product of
my environment.
Killing, stealing, dying, lying, x, y, z.
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I come from that environment.
So he a help to that and notagainst me.
You get what I'm saying.
The prophet didn't establishthe more sized temple of America
for you to criticize and judgeyour people.
He made it a home where youwould come in and feel cellular
and welcome.
That's why a lot of our peopleare still in the church.
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They feel welcome.
I mean, hey brother, come on,get the word started calling for
me hurry up and then go with.
That being said, let's nationbuild.
I mean, that's that's wherewe're losing at.
We need to nation build.
Get out of egoistic.
I mean my elders better thanyours.
We represent the prophet,moorish, american.
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That's the nationhood.
Tribalism is always going to beconnected to it.
But you got to start fromsomewhere.
I started from being Damu, goingthrough the 5% nation, learning
about it.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I wouldn't know about the Moorsor the 5% Nation or the Black
Panther Party if I wasn't blood.
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So we had to learn a timeline.
We had to learn what happenedin 66 and 64 and 55 in the 30s
and how the cinnamon war cameabout.
We had to have this on top ofour dome.
So that was my groundwork andthen I began to graduate and
elevate.
So stop being equalistic withyour people.
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The prophet told you to meetthem where they're at.
You can't go get your peopleand think they're going to be
holy outside.
They've been tarnished, they'vebeen tempered with X, y, z.
They have to be cleansed.
That's why we do every day it'sa spiritual cleanse before you
offer salat to the most highIslam.
Peace blessed be upon you all.
Speaker 3 (01:16:01):
Islam.
I came over to the car andplugged in my phone, so that
gave me a little bit more juice.
Brother Rivers Hill.
Last words.
Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Yeah, basically I
created a space.
When I created it, I did Usedto be like hey, but it's been
years now.
I'm not begging for anybody tocome to this house I'm building.
I'm trying to figure out whyy'all Acting like the KKK now,
yeah, people are threatening thereligious people, the holy
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people, the brothers and sistersare threatening to burn down
the house.
Why, I don't know, because it'sblue.
I don't get it.
You know what I mean.
I don't get it.
You know we're not botheringnobody.
My book doesn't say this is theremix of the Holy Quran.
None of that.
You know what I mean and Idon't get it.
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And, like I said I said before,I'll say it again it's a lot of
information here that's notpopular, that's not dealt with.
It's not only about Crip andBlood.
That's what this conversationwas about.
I think the first three chaptersdeal with that.
After that it's all dealingwith all types of stuff.
But to act like hey, you'redealing with all of yourself,
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but cut that part out, doesn'tmake no sense to me.
You know what I mean.
To me, it just proves that weas a people have more of a
problem with ourselves than we'dlike to admit.
You know what I mean, even if,with ourselves, we like to admit
you know.
I mean, even if you, speakingto choose, your problem is this
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group or that group, it's stillyourself and we got to get past
that.
It's just because it's in thename of blood and crip or and
more.
It doesn't make a difference ifyou are one group of asiatics
generalizing and throwing awhole nother group of asiatics
men, women and children down thetoilet, for whatever reason.
You need to start from scratchAll these big words and all that
.
You need to learn to loveinstead of hate, first and
foremost.
Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Islam and I want to
end with and I mentioned this on
the NYP broadcast.
There's a chapter in the Circle7, the Holy Quran, where and
you brought it up earlier Jesusis sitting with the thieves and
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the corsesons.
And the people who wasfollowers of Jesus came up to
him and, I'm paraphrasing saidoh Rabana, master of the wise,
today will be an evil day foryou because the people see that
you're sitting with the thievesand courtesans and you're around
these people and they will shunyou.
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Now they're going to shun youas they shun an Aspen.
The thing that he said, which Ithink is applicable.
He said a wise man nevercensors himself for the sake of
reputation or fame.
A wise man never censorshimself for the sake of
reputation and fame.
Allah has given us all ourportion and we know this from
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the holy instructions of unity,in which measure he seemeth good
unto himself.
Holy instructions of unity inwhich measure he seemeth good
unto himself.
The banging and the ego startswhen we don't understand the
measure.
But just because we don'tunderstand the measure, maybe
the measure is not for us, youknow.
(01:19:26):
So I appreciate you, brothers,coming on and having this
discussion, because there arethose that would love to divide
our community in general and theMorris American community in
particular.
Over these lines, I think youall have done a fine job of
expressing not only what yourgoals are and what your ideas
are about what you're doing, butthe sentiment of where the
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temple and mores in general needto improve.
They need to get out of theirego, they need to read a book
before they judge you and ifthere is an issue, then get with
the person that you got theissue with.
Talk to them.
Then get with the person thatyou got the issue with.
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Talk to them, get to know whatthey're about, instead of just
putting things out there andmaybe causing trouble, because
the shaitan is the mischiefmaker and we are the peacemakers
.
So with that Islam.
Oh, one more thing before we go, I have a little bit more.
Tell people where they can findyour book and or your music,
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brother Jesus and your host.
Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Yeah, you can look me
up online.
You know, crip Jesus, I'm allover the place as far as the
music and all that.
As far as the book, it's not onAmazon.
So you go to my website,blackilluminaticom.
I'll try to leave a link.
It's not a simpleT-H-E-B-L-A-C-K-I,
l-l-u-m-i-n-a-t-i,blackilluminaticom.
Also, I'm a big endorsement of.
(01:20:59):
I don't believe in all thistechnology separating us.
You can reach out to me directon the business line 213
667-1094.
We got merch other books.
I also got my other book, theBlack Indian War.
So I'm not just the everybodytalking about the Morris Crips
and all this crap.
Y'all make it up on me.
I'm not the Morris Crip leader,I'm a regular fan.
That's the one book I gotcalled the Blue Bible.
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I also have books dealing withstraight raw history, the Black
Indian War and other things.
So tap in with me.
Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
We got merch, and all
that at Black Illuminati.
Speaker 4 (01:21:34):
Brother Yahoshi,
islam, peace and love.
You can reach me on Facebook asmy name is up here.
It's Prince Yahoshi.
I do music as well.
Prince Yahoshi, that's my stagename, so I'm on all platforms
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Spotify, apple, whatever.
I's my name, I use for theindustry, all that, so that's
how you can look me up.
Like I said, I'm on allplatforms Peace and love, and
that's how you spell it up thereP-R-I-N-C-E-Y-E-H-O-S-H-I.
If you don't spell it right,you're going to get that Mario
(01:22:23):
character.
That's not me.
It's long and also I loveeverybody that tuned in.
I love everybody that tuned in.
There's no hate in my heart.
You got love instead of hate.
Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
And with that
appreciate the viewers and we
appreciate the Ron Brown Bay forallowing us to use his platform
NYP talk show.
Much appreciation and see younext time.
Peace and love.
Thanks for watching.