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Speaker 1 (00:10):
all right, peace.
What's going on?
Everybody?
It's ron brown lmt, thepeople's fitness professional,
and soon we'll be the people'schamps.
We keep that on the low, though, but yo, but yo, maggie Fever
in the building.
What's going on, maggie?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Yo Crip Jesus, I got
something for you, man Well
really.
Crip, Jesus right, she sellsseashells by the seashell.
It's time to see some more.
Yo what's good?
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Remember that, Hell
yeah you know about that Time to
see some more what's good?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Remember that CJ Mack
Hell, yeah, you know about that
.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yo, so I want to
build on.
I mean, the last time we spoke,man, the way you were kind of
like building upon the Crip Icall it Crip culture I thought
if I put it out there like thatyou would be like I don't know
if it's a culture, because ofthe way you were talking, saying
on the last podcast, the wayyou were I don't want to say you
were kind of like you were.
(01:15):
You were kind of trying to notadvocate for Crippen.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, my thing is, my
name is Crip Jesus and I think
a lot of people get so wrappedup in this white jesus version
they forget the actual story.
Remember, in the story he wastelling his people like bro,
y'all messing up, it's gonna beover.
Like, if y'all don't get right,it's gonna be a rap for y'all,
like, straight up, like, andthey killed, they wanted to kill
him because of it.
You know I'm saying so.
(01:40):
This whole thing, like my name,represents some type of
glamorization.
The Crip is crazy and I'm soglad we're here to clear that up
.
You know I mean, I represent,especially coming from the guy
perspective.
You know saying the nation.
I'm bringing the truth, I'mbeing a grave digger.
You know what I'm saying.
This is the Crips.
A Crip is where a tomb isplaced.
You know what I'm saying.
(02:01):
Like I say page 80 of the BlueBible.
Etymologically, forget what yousay.
It mean, like somebody told meit stands for this.
No, etymologically the sound ofit Crypt.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
That's used for the
crypt, you get what.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
I'm saying it tells
from the crypt that's used for
the dead bro.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So Hold on, I see
what he's dropping.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
It ain't even two
minutes.
It's two minutes, bro, you'redropping signs.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Man Yo Chugga.
We coming to the West man.
Ron and I are going to take aflight out there.
We're going to come chill.
Oh, let's get it, man.
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
For sure, for sure we
have to.
So now, Lord knows.
Ok, I don't know what thatcomment's about, but it straight
from PA.
That's what's up, pa in thebuilding.
Live out there.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
What up PA?
Shout out to Allentown, shoutout to Redding, shout out to
Philly.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Word.
So now let's go into it.
So now crip culture.
Right, when I put that outthere and I say that, what comes
to mind for you?
Speaker 3 (03:14):
For me, like just the
science I deal with, is the
fact that I know with fellowbuilders it may be like you know
, let's be antagonistic and sayCrip, it's not a culture and
it's a death style.
But me, I look at itscientifically and if we look at
mathematically, culturecomposes of the elements coat
and then the chair on there as athe elements coat and then the
chur on there as a forgot, whatthat's called.
But you know, you add on to theword like the suffix or
whatever.
So if the root word of his coat, you feel I'm saying uh.
And if you look at the, eventhe history of how it works, the
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big homie and raymondwashington, and it's like a cult
following, right, so, uh, thecrip culture.
There is a crip culture.
Now the problem is that the wayof life in today's mathematics
is culture.
So that's, you know, it's worthbuying.
So the way of life being livedby the crips, the brain dead, is
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not the culture that crip wasfounded on.
And I'll prove it to you, themost popular thing for conscious
community, or even the guys, tosay about Crip, they like to
break it down and say communityrevolution and progress.
And I'm here to let everybodyknow that's not what it stands
for.
Okay, okay, hold on.
So that goes to show the braindeadness here, right?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Okay Now can you
explain that, Because people
have been saying that for years.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
For years, for years.
Biggest argument.
So page eight, blue Bible I'llbreak down Was that page seven?
I'll break down how.
I believe it meant that too,and I learned that from my
father.
All right, so you can tell methat wasn't true, right?
My dad told me y'all don't evenknow what the hell that shit
mean it.
(04:45):
My dad told me y'all don't evenknow what the hell that shit
mean.
It mean community revolution,progress.
Old man born in 61.
But my father was born in 61.
That means when they made thathe was eight years old.
So he don't know everything.
He's even a generation behindthem.
That's how deep this goes.
Raymond Washington was already16, 17, 18 when he was eight.
You dig what I'm saying.
So even he's going secondhand.
Not saying he's wrong, but I'mgonna just show you what I mean.
(05:07):
He got that next generation.
That was the next generation.
But this is what happened.
Crip originally did not evenmean an acronym.
There was no breakdown to it.
According to now, I wasn'tthere, but according to danifu
kareem bay notice the name ofthe land that don't sound like a
crip name, right?
So this is a moorish sciencechic.
Who was name of the land?
That don't sound like a Cripname, right, so this is a
Moorish science sheik, who wasone of the founders of Crip.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Hold on.
Hold on hold on.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Hold on.
That's too much right there,that's too deep right there, man
Hold on hold on.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
You just said a Moorish sciencesheik started the Crips.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
you just said Amoris
Science Sheik started the Crips
he wasn't a Sheik then, so hewas a kid, just like Raymond
Washington.
He was in his teens, late teens, but LA was one of the biggest
hot spots for the Panthers atthat time.
La is the reason they createdSWAT Special Weapons.
You know what I mean.
(06:06):
Because, uh, in tactic response, because they had a shootout
with the lapd for over fourhours due to bunchy carter.
That's why you say I have a lotof crip historians.
Start with bunchy carter.
It was his influence as the headof the black panther chapter in
LA that set the tone for theblack leather jacket having the
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gun saying F the police.
That culture in LA comes fromhim, it comes from Black
Panthers, but it comes fromspecifically his version of the
Black Panthers.
You see what I'm saying.
And he dealt with the gangs ofLA.
He was from Slauson Boys, so hehas a connection with that
first wave of 6-0s.
A lot of them were under himdirectly.
(06:48):
You know what I'm saying.
He was from Slauson Boys, buthe also dealt with the NOI as
well, so he knew lessons.
So he was God.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Tamika in a building.
Yo Yo, I got a connection toTamika because she is from my
hood.
What's up, tamika?
I like seeing her on thecheck-in Harlem, harlem, harlem
in the building.
So she said what is his nameagain.
(07:19):
Can you repeat that?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Oh, danifu Kareem Bey
.
Tap in with me for a copy ofthe blue bible.
You have his name and many morethe blue bible, danifu kareem
bay.
But no, he got his own booksand stuff too as well.
Like, indeed, he got.
I think he got a joint called uh, it's for sure, youtube.
I don't know if it's a book aswell.
I want to say baby panther.
So here's how it goes.
(07:43):
He's the connection between cripand panthers, really bunchy
carter, because we bunchy couldfeel like this when bunchy car
was alive, there was no suchthing as crip.
So that's kind of unfair to dothat to him because we don't
know if he would have been aliveand said no, I get this crap
you got.
I'm saying so.
I don't like doing that topeople playing with their legacy
like that.
If I'm saying so, uh, I wanted.
(08:03):
Was he a crippled?
I don't want to give a fuckname.
I forgot his name, but brotherbay, this is in 1972.
Okay, according to him this isnot me, I wasn't there.
According to him, they even gotinterviews I could send you.
According to him, he said thatwhat they have formulated as as
teenagers and maybe some otherbrothers with 1918 there, but
(08:25):
y'all young men right by by 72,which is the third year in,
they're already having majorinternal conflict.
Now, mind you and this ischapter two of the blue bible it
talks about how the first cripscalled each other blood I heard
about that yeah, so there is nocrip in blood.
This is all the vision of thedevil.
(08:46):
It's the same thing as how wegot like five percent nge,
whoop-de-boop guys, the muslimsand you start looking back and
seeing where the divisions comein, right, yeah, so what happens
is you know, I'm not doing thatjust to, I'm not playing with
the nation.
I'm bringing a parallel eachcoasts, because that's what I
represent, that's the crypt,jesus, you know, I mean it's the
whole.
I'm bringing a parallel of eachcoasts because that's what I
represent.
That's the crypt.
You know what I mean, it's thewhole.
So I'm giving the duality herehow this was taken.
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Inequality born in 69, whenFather Allah was returned.
That's when Bunchy Carter wasreturned and Crips started.
That's also the year whenMuammar Gaddafi did the
rebellion and took over Libya Abloodless coup.
And all three of them things,if you ask me, have a direct
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effect on me and what Irepresent, even in the Blue
Bible, because I talk about howall of that came to a
cross-section when you had theBlack Peacestones formulating,
getting money, and formulatingwith Gaddafi bringing that to LA
.
No one wants to talk about howthat was in LA before he's
(09:52):
getting deep, he's breaking itdown mathematically.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
I love it.
Now I want to take it back tothe origins.
Yeah, so, danifu Karim.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
Bey said when he born
the constitution in.
I want to take it back to theorigins.
Yeah, so Danifu Karimbe saidwhen he born the Constitution in
1972, the acronym he came withwas Community.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Revolutionary
Interparty Services.
That explains the structure andwhy it's so democratic and
loose.
It was interparty services.
One more time let's repeat thatand this is in the Blue Bible.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
It's in the blue
bible, yeah.
So I'm telling people like andit ain't no, just no crypt book.
This is.
This is information included inthere.
But I talk about how.
In chapter one I talk about myown brain deadness, how, uh, you
know prison, all those things.
Fortunately for me, this is alldue to the blessings of my arm,
leg, leg, arm, head.
You know I mean, uh, I didn'tcome out with a buck fifty, I
(10:46):
came out with more knowledge.
I came out with informationthat even the people around me
didn't necessarily get, becausemaybe someone saw something in
me and pulled me to the side.
You know what I mean.
Someone saw something in me andpulled me to the side.
He got me Because on the WestCoast a lot of these
organizations don't have as muchroots.
(11:06):
You get more of a mixture.
So that was a blessing to me.
I was able to get informationfrom everybody.
They may see I'm down withhistory.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, something they probablywouldn't do on the East Coast.
Some Blackstones see me quoting120 in California.
They like that.
Oh, wow, you a real father.
Father, let me tell you ourstuff.
That's just how it is out here,you know I mean because it's
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not any of us film it's a lot ofgangs.
So, um, from that came the the70s, and you see this on both
coasts and all around thecountry.
The 70s, for our people, was avery confusing time.
Yeah, time of blaxploitation.
(11:49):
Yes, it was a time of extremepride Like we don't know today.
We can't imagine our women allwalking around with afros.
That would be like we might cry.
You know what I'm saying.
So it's a time even hard for usto understand.
It's the guy ciphers, though,you know.
And during that time, what Ithink a lot of people like to
talk about in the abstract, butthey don't like to bring it home
(12:10):
and realize these are ouruncles, these are, this is real
shit.
In the 70s is the time of theinfiltration.
If I'm not mistaken, they had aprogram called the ghetto inform
, the gip.
This was released by trump.
When trump did the ciapaperwork release thing, this
came out.
It started cia releasedinformation every 50 years.
So in 1972, 50 years directlybehind 2022, when he first did
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that joint uh, in 1972 theystarted the gip.
The ghetto informant programjust goes along with co-intelRO.
Now they use fancy wordsCOINTELPRO.
What's counterintelligence?
Well, I'm not trying to fightfake intelligence, I'm trying to
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fight real intelligence.
Right?
So counterintelligence isartificial intelligence, it's AI
.
You just think AI means robotor digital shit.
No, that's real life AI in realtime.
So, what they did was we hadcommunity revolutionary
inter-party services, and thesedudes had this vision to
recreate this what they can of,like the Black Panthers.
(13:15):
This is going to be the newthing, though, right, and the
brothers?
They're trying to turn out todo this.
We're all hip youngsters thatcall each other blood.
See how the devil works.
Blood and crip.
What's the difference betweenblood and crip?
They dress the same, they lookthe same, they talk the same,
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they fight over the same blocks,they have sex with the same
women, they go to the same jails, they make the same dumbass
music.
They wear the same chucks, justdifferent color.
It's just a science of colorism.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
That's it.
Vibration Yep, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
Now they make fun of
us and say we don't fight for
colors over here.
Oh, y'all don't.
What the fuck was the PuertoRican thing?
The guys had all the seeds.
That was the first division.
They started breaking it.
You see what I'm saying.
They played this gameeverywhere, man.
They played this gameeverywhere.
And you see, in other stateswhere dudes came in as drug
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out-of-town drug dealers thatwas Asians and started gangs.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Happened in LA too.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Talk about it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Wait, okay, hold on.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Hold on, you just
made a Ron.
He just gave everybody a wholehistory lesson.
If he knew what they weretalking about from Cointelpro
for infiltration of what wasgoing on with Libya.
From Jeff Fort when they weretrying to hire him to do like
those terrorist attacks.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
But when he did this
in LA you just said drug dealers
were agents.
You mean like agents as in likethey were agents, because they
were drug dealing or they wereagents as in no, we're working
for the government, so this iswhat happens.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They gave them carte
blanche to sell drugs in the
community.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
In 1969 in Los
Angeles, because I'm going to
rock with you.
I can't speak for everybody,but we're going to give names.
Now in Los Angeles, I'm goingto rock with you.
I can't speak for everybody,but we're going to give names.
Now we're going to stop beingbusted.
Today.
It's going to be legendary.
In 1969, butchie Carter got LAon lock.
We're going to act like peopledidn't get high.
But you couldn't come in frontof a school and advertise drugs
to kids and throw after schoolparties and have sex with all
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the little homegirls and all.
You couldn't do that.
Don't forget.
Behind this high and mighty gangname is a bunch of little kids
getting turned out by grownups.
That shit don't come into the70s.
So these gangs didn't startlike that, because the whole
concept of the gang the bloodand didn't exist.
Right, these were same people.
It was a blood blood.
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These were crips talking toeach other because the whole
world said, hey, what up?
Young blood.
I hear that from people incoming from london.
This is black lingo.
They took our lingo and made itdevilish me.
Same thing what they do withthe music.
Same thing they were doing withthe music in the 70s with the
blaxploitation and all that.
So they was fucking with thevibrations then right, and what
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they came with was why do pyrosay p funk?
Why is the vision of an oghomie somebody from the 70s,
with the afro and the low low?
this is where the vibrationcomes from right so when they
start playing with the vibration70s, I can get off.
The subject from what Igathered in my research is let's
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start with la, then i'm'm goingto go to Philly and New York.
So in LA, in 69, when they gotrid of Bunchy Carter, who's the?
They, the Illuminati, the whitemen?
No, let's be specific.
These were not white men.
They were getting orders fromthe white men.
But it was actually a group ofbrothers named US United Slaves.
You know, that's somegovernment shit.
What type of niggas cometogether and say we're united
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slaves, related by RobertKarenga, the inventor of you
guessed it, I know.
You told me yeah, he's stillalive.
You know, it is with you.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
You meant Quan.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
We met him.
Well, not we, we didn't reallymeet him.
He was on the remember the Zoomcall and all of that I'm going
to be fair was on the.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
Remember the zoom
call and all of that, remember.
I'm gonna be fair.
I'm gonna be fair.
I say what I say in the bookbecause the book is coming from
the perspective of what it wastold me.
The prison, but you know, Idon't know.
But I even said it's in thebook too.
I ain't putting nothing on, Isaid it said in the prison.
Like california prison is likenah, they don't fuck rob corinne
.
Like like people that's pushingthe whole bgf black panther
type paradigm and all that likelike not.
So they see him as a governmentagent that was used to run a
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group of brothers that wasbasically used to go against
them and create like a gang typeand uh antagonistic environment
with the panthers.
That was there.
Like we did with the otherblack power group that want to
do it a different way and wehave fights with y'all.
In the midst of of theseconflicts, bunchy Carter ends up
dead.
See what I'm saying.
So we don't know if theyslipped one of theirs in to do
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it, do it and make it look.
You know what I mean.
I'll even give Robert Correathis much.
I've heard this said hey, heain't know what was going on.
He was just rocking with the.
Okay, whatever the point is, inthe midst of those conflicts,
the same way the blood andcryptine plays out, bunch of car
ends up dead.
They might say it was a usmember that did it.
All we know is it happened at acollege and they claim it was
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them.
Getting into it after he diesis a shootout on 41st and
central between the lapd andthethers and it lasted for four
hours.
This is why they ended upcreating SWAT.
They went around and arrestedall the members.
Supposedly I don't know howmany members it was, but I know
that one night allegedly it waslike over 70 arrests, so all the
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hitters.
This is what led to the bigvoid and the coming up of the
other organizations andeventually Crip being the most
popular.
From that comes Donifu Karimbe,who wasn't called that at that
time, comes up with theCommunity Revolutionary
Interparty Services Constitution.
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Now that's where my researchgoes.
This is why I said the 70s iswhere it gets mixed up, because
the 70s comes the drug dealerera and when I read information
from Panthers in the East, Ican't say I read this in Panther
books from the West, becausethe Panther books in the West
during that era kind of dealmore with, like George Jackson
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and what's called like the BGF.
The black gorilla family wouldbe like the big homies of that
era, right?
So here's what's funny.
The government got rid of themstrategically, one by one in the
prisons, put cases on them, getthem in there, bam.
But while they would be in theshoe, which is segregated
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housing units, away fromeverybody, because they had so
much knowledge, they want themon the main line.
Whatever crips or bloods wouldbe brought to the shoe, they
would teach them.
That's what led to the creationof bloodline united blood
nation cco and blue note crip.
And all these are like prisongangs or secret societies, other
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gangs levels or whatever.
They speak swahili, they havedifferent alliances, whatever
that the united blood nationsounds familiar.
Yeah because, like I said in thebook, they ended up no, no,
they west coast, but they endedup.
They they call it getting cutwhen they initiate you.
They started spreading to outthe prisons so they started like
letting rappers join and alltype of shit.
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So I talk about that in thebook, how it was a dude I knew
that was you being.
They should be bringingpictures of celebrities to my
cell.
We used to be laughing likewhat the hell they took it to
that level.
But the point is to go back towhat I was saying in the 70s.
It's like the Crips are goinginto the prisons, they're
getting beat up, they're havingto fight real hard to even exist
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.
It's a lot of crazy, you know.
It's a lot of mixture going on.
And in the midst of all of that, what I read and reading and
studying Philly and New York isthis is when the BLA came on the
rise, which was like secondwave of what was left for the
black Panthers.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
And the black BLA,
black liberation army liberation
army.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Yeah, and from what I
gathered from them, their main
conflict was in these ghettosthat we're talking about, where
these gangs were.
But it wasn't the gangbangersthey was conflicting with.
They said they was conflictingwith the people who were like in
big homie status and wereselling drugs, which a lot of
them, you know it wasn't asmixed yet, it wasn't like gang
drug dealers yet.
So it was like the drug dealersstill had their own separate
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world.
You know what I mean.
So it may be like a big homieor a dude who's like big homie
of the neighborhood, but he'snot as per se a crip or blood
whatever.
You know what I mean.
You know it wasn't like how itis now, so set in stone.
So you have people like 2DReese.
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Rest in peace, 2d Reese.
2d Reese frequented the Roland30 areas which we call Harlem
out here.
So I guess that'd be likeHarlem, california, I guess.
But it's like 2D Reese wasn'tnecessarily a crip, but the
crips in that area looked up tothem with protecting them.
So this is like things arechanging now.
The gangs are growing, the drugdealers are kind of becoming
the center of attention becausethe revolutionary dudes are
getting pulled away.
But from what I gather from theBLA, they're saying the
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government was sponsoring thesepeople.
Now I want to ask you something.
Before a bunch of rap songscame out saying my amigo, my
amigo, my amigo, wouldn't itseem kind of suspicious?
A predominantly blackneighborhood, not how we got
them now, where they're notpredominantly black, but we just
act like they are A reallypredominantly black neighborhood
, that's like 85% black.
Some Mexicans over here givingyou 20 pounds of dope at a time
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yeah, is over here giving you 20pounds of dope at a time.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
I think that's kind
of weird Talk about it, talk
about it.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
You know what?
Speaker 3 (22:41):
I'm saying, if
anybody watching, then I can say
the name.
I remember his name because myreal name is Brandon.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
His name is Blandon,
I heard of him.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Blandon, that was
Freeway Rick, oh yeah yeah, it
was CIA.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
Oliver North in them
right when they was fighting the
Contras and all that.
Oliver North walked up to no,no, he didn't, but it was proxy
but I'm saying it was D'Amico.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
So what.
I'm saying is not exaggeratingD'Amico dudes, be government
sometimes hmm, hmm, he's onpoint.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Yo Jesus, you on fire
, bro, the government sometimes.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
He's on point.
Yo Jesus, you on fire, bro, youfeel me we go lower level with
it.
You're talking about the Migos'grandsons.
Nah, we ain't talking aboutyour homie up the street we
talking about.
This is the beginning of thething.
It ain't even popular to dodrugs in the hood this time.
Here comes some Spanish dude.
I got all the dope in the world.
Sure I know they're gonna buyall this shit.
No, nobody knew they're gonnabuy all this shit.
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The demand wasn't even therelike that.
They set this in place bruhfacts and I got that from
reading bla publications andbooks.
That was like their main issue,because you know they're.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
They're like in the
70s and the 80s right, and they,
they didn't they interfere withwhat was going on in queens
with the seven crowns and all ofthat see that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I didn't get that
though, like the.
Uh, I just got it in in generalterms.
I didn't get like it wasactually seven.
But you build it makes sensebecause we have to be realistic
with ourselves.
If I'm the hustler and thesedudes, they're not police,
they're saying F the pigs.
But you got to get what I'msaying.
(24:25):
We kind of missed thattransition in our brain.
We just go straight fromrevolutionary hood Like no,
there was a time period wherewhat will become the hood leader
dude was despised by thepolitical leader dude of the
neighborhood.
So that's going to take us backto the 70s with the crip
culture, the first crips toenter prison.
They was whipping their ass,the BGF, they was making them
(24:46):
turn BGF.
You feel me?
The CCO came about as a resultof them not being able to
exterminate all the crips andthey just kept coming more and
more and more and more and more.
You feel what I'm saying.
So it's like they startlearning from them and kind of
evolving into that.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So they started
learning from the Black
guerrilla families, which isyeah, that's how they learned
Swahili.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That's why a lot of
the TCOs and BNCs are Muslim.
That's why they say let's holdUss her Oos Salama that come
from the BGF.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
So do you know
anything else about the BGF you?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
say do I know about?
Yeah, like just basic history.
Well, yeah, I talk about thatin the Blue Bible too.
They were started by thebrother George Jackson, who was,
you know, with the Panthers, soit became basically like the
prison division.
You know what I mean?
He was the author of blood inmy eye.
(25:43):
I know when I was in prison youcouldn't even have to be a
blood in my eye or they lockedyou.
Uh, that's how deep it was anduh, yeah, when I was around they
just represented.
You know, they was non-tolerantwith all the goofy shit.
Like, looking at how it is now,I hate that the bgf had to get
that.
They had to disappear becausethey were extremely non-tolerant
of everything we complainedabout.
And they're like all that sexyred, my booty brown, they'll
come beat your ass for evensaying some weird shit like that
.
You can't say the N-word, theydon't play none of that.
(26:08):
So you know not to throw thenation back in, but I just
really, because you look at likethe vision that I had growing
up, like in the 90s, when it'slike oh yeah, the east coast,
they, you know, they big sellingdope and all that, but the guys
at the same time.
(26:28):
You know this false image thatwas the same thing, like, like
y'all probably look at the westcoast, like, oh yeah, they all
gangbanging where checks andsell crap.
You know, I'm saying, and it'slike even that stereotype, in
that image, if you ask me, theyput the drugs, they started
(26:49):
introducing the drug dealers andall of that and the
blaxploitation, all that 70s,80s is when they came with crack
and just full-fledged and thepolice started actually getting
in dudes' cars and going toother hoods and shooting at them
.
So the Bloods did it.
I'm pretty sure on y'all's sideit was these guys, the Gods did
it.
(27:09):
Now the Gods, all this crazystuff.
They start going that far withit, right, like the movie In Too
Deep, right Like this ain'tnothing.
When they start going that farwith it, they were introducing
drugs and gang, the gang culturethat we see today then.
So everything I just saidbefore this is to show y'all
(27:31):
this is that's where it camefrom.
Now, this is the 80s, is whatyou see today, where it's just
death, kill, murder and you seethat in every hood around
America.
You see, they all say, yeah, inthe 80s it changed around here,
right, this is when Crip got.
But then you have the 90s.
This is the part a lot of Blackpeople don't want to admit
(27:51):
because it makes them feel weak,like I ain't that influential,
yes, them feel weak, like Iain't that influential, yes, in
the 90s the main drug andtogether was hip-hop.
They infiltrated and made it.
We already know, yo keep going.
Yeah, they infiltrated and madeit to where the culture or
whatever your gang or crew orwhatever became molded by this.
(28:12):
See, this is what it was.
I was talking to og thismorning and the guy was telling
me how you know, because I wastelling, because you know it'd
be three generations we.
So we got, we got the guy's sonhe younger than me, but I'm in
between and we were talkingabout how the way hip-hop is,
you know, I was like we'resaying words that's uh, you know
(28:36):
, uh, non-traditional ornon-appropriate, right, so I'm
normalized we're talking about.
And he was talking about how,in the beginning, you had to go
to swap meet or go to abootlegger from underground to
even get hip-hop music rightbecause it was that, you know.
(28:57):
And then not just like therawness of it, just also it
wasn't on the labels and allthat, right.
So what happens is when theybring out the hip hop and all of
that in the 80s, right, yougotta look at what was going on
at the time.
So they was taking what was inthe streets, bringing it.
Okay, man, we're gonna get ourpiece, we're gonna water it down
, commercialize it, mix it.
Okay, man, we're going to getour piece of it, we're going to
water it down, commercialize it,mix it.
(29:18):
Run DMC with Aerosmith, allthat corny shit.
But then it came out later onAfrican Band Biden and all that.
I ain't got to sit here andbite my lips.
So they made, they infiltratedeven the guys.
You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, come be a god,
you get your cheeks busted
though compromising behavior.
So just to clarify basicallyyou're saying you're saying
Africa Bambaataa basicallyinfluenced people to come into
his operation, if you want tocall it that.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I'm saying basically
that the reason the vision of
crip culture is so weirded out.
Now, the same time I break downthe Blue Bible, because I break
down my adventure, I waslearning more about the guys
than I was learning about.
You know what I mean.
So what I realized was thatthese infiltrations went on
around the nation at the sametime.
Okay, you see what I'm saying.
(30:22):
So at the same time that theguys were spreading, and it was
undeniable, they had all powerboroughs on lock.
The devil don't create nothing,so the devil come and try to use
that.
He gets one of us to say, hey,tell the younger ones if they
want to be god, god and be zuluand all that.
You know, they gotta comethrough there.
That chamber, so on the westcoast, is hey, let them know if
(30:46):
they want to be, you know, likethe bgf and the big old swole
and manly.
And this is the west coastthing, right where you're gonna
swole, you ain't scared of thepolice, you got your gun and you
got your jury, man, kings, godsand the person.
They got to come through here.
They got to get socked on.
Let the big homie do what hewant.
We got drugs.
Yeah, I'm saying in the 90s itwas the same thing.
You would go try to become arapper or man.
(31:14):
You know I ain't going to youlike doing drugs and all that,
but it's like some rap click orsomething, you know what.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
I'm saying I never
heard of anything like that.
What you mean, we're talkingabout off-camera.
Probably I know what you'retalking about.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
I don't know what
you're talking about, though.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
I never heard that
Like on the East Coast.
It may be like a rap click.
There was a time in the 90s,I'm saying, when hip-hop became
the drug right.
You could join a rap clique andthey'll teach you the lingo,
you may even start talking mathmax and all that, but they're
getting you high.
They got you on dope.
Next thing you know you in jail.
You feel what I'm saying.
So then on the west coast, thesame thing being, by the time it
came in the 90s, it's like tojust even be down or with the
(31:51):
rappers or with the crews.
Now you gang Like Tupac.
Nothing I'm saying isfar-fetched.
Next thing, you know you'reTupac.
You came out here to do somemusic.
Now you gangbanging All that.
This became the new drug world,the new drug world.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Selling influence a
package.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
The whole UI of the
shit.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Now, let me ask you
this.
Let me ask you this Do youthink that COINTELPRO?
Speaker 3 (32:21):
made that happen.
I know COINTELPRO made ithappen because it's called
COINTELPRO.
So the program we had beforewas counterintelligence.
It was.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
AI'd.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
They ain't like us
getting money, they ain't like
us owning all our own stores,they ain't like us doing all
that.
So they gave us AI in the music.
So in the 90s the music wasliterally beats that make you
attack Bruh, fuck that nigga.
Murder, murder, death, death,death, kill, kill, bone, duh,
bone, duh, murder, death, kill,kill, kill your mama.
All that, bro.
It was in the 90s.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
So I see what you're
saying, before you go any
further.
He's saying basically thisinfiltrated people like James
Brown, who own their masters,and Ray Charles and them.
They exploit their weakness.
They're like I see what you'redoing with your music.
You uplift people with themessage, so I'm going to use
what you love to destroy you,you know what I'm saying every
time when we loved the books,they made the bible yep, exactly
when we loved our littleorganizations, they made the
Bible, yep.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
When we loved our
little organizations, blackbird,
they made the gangs.
When we loved getting high ondifferent herbs see, it sounds
bad now, but there was a timewhen all that stuff was pure.
Grandma and them used to chew alittle of this, smoke a little
of that, sniff a little of that,go right in and get everything
done.
They infiltrated that.
We used to smoke the weed.
We used to buy a little fivedollar nickel sack and be good
(33:40):
all day.
They infiltrated that.
Now we need $30 to $40 for twohours.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Capitalism Smoking
like four splits back to back.
Back there, one drink would bestraight.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
What people don't
want to realize is they went
around the country and theydidn't care if y'all said y'all
was guys.
Y'all said y'all was nations.
Y'all said y'all was gangs.
Y'all said y'all was whatever.
They wanted in on everything.
They studied each version andtried to get into each one and
tried to infiltrate each one.
(34:12):
You see, this in the 90s I'mtrying to explain, though, that
people don't want to bite, I'mworking my way to was in the 90s
.
The infiltration was direct,through the music.
They were literally telling youwhat to do, and I did that
because I wanted to.
No, you didn't.
They told what they told me todo.
So bad the 90s that a lot of usdon't even remember.
We sit back and look at thevideos.
(34:33):
That shit really said.
Shit really said that.
How many of y'all watched theBiggie video when the girl
walked in the bathroom andpulled the joint out?
You're like, damn, I didn'teven realize that.
Yeah, ai, bro.
Oh, yeah, yeah, thank you.
(34:53):
Back then we were so straightwe couldn't even see this shit.
That's how straight we were.
I didn't see that.
What you?
Speaker 2 (35:00):
talking about Right.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
I didn't even accept
that.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
Yeah, we were too
young to even figure that out.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
We was growing around
this too.
You remember how them G's usedto talk about Prince and all
that.
No, he's not gay Bro, it's idolworship.
They knew exactly what they wasdoing and they said all that.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Yo hold on, Hold on.
This dude is dropping crazyheavy bombs.
Yo, because yo you rememberthat, Like when Prince used to
wear the weird ass pants withthe ass cheeks out Androgynous.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, that was like
the ushering in the gay shit,
the androgynous feature, becausewho was doing that before you
had Boy George doing that?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
you're right about that.
That was like the 80s, rightthey?
Speaker 2 (35:48):
get Bowie in them.
Yeah, that was the 80s yeah man, that was right.
Cameo wearing that red thing,like what was that about, bro?
Speaker 3 (35:58):
yeah, you're right
about that word out yeah, when
you look at punk rock and allthat, you see they had their
agenda going already then.
But let's get back to this.
What I'm saying about the 90sis not just because I'm saying,
oh yeah, look what they were.
If you go back to the signsthat's been revealed by
(36:19):
different artists, they claimthat the meeting that was had
when it was decided on to letrap become like gangster rap and
let it go full-fledged, superexaggerated, with the violence
and the sexual and all thevulgarities.
They claimed it was a meetingin 91 between some top music
execs, artists and prison heads.
(36:39):
Right, meaning that the musicafter that was actually created
to endorse and encourage, uh,prison population.
Now we can, we can, we can talkfor hours about is that true or
not.
We can get to the point oflet's go with that narrative and
see how that mean that thatmeant that the gangs, because
(37:01):
they're directly in the prisonsat that point.
Right, because in the 70s whenthey started doing all the
prison industrial complex andbuilding all the extra prisons.
So after 20 years from later,now the gangs are mainly in the
prisons.
Now this is the soundtrack.
Where that soundtrack come from?
Did they create that?
No, go back to when they hadthe tapes at the bootlegs, in
the swap meets and all that, themixtapes.
(37:21):
Yeah, they studied this.
Oh, this is, this is theirsoundtrack.
Okay, now we're gonna tell themwhat to wear, we're gonna tell
them what to do, we're gonnatell them how to feel with the
music.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
that's a fact.
Commercialism commercialized,everything was commercialized
and he was getting dudes likedoing free endorsements, like
when Run DMC did the whole myAdidas.
That was free advertisement.
Their stocks went up.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Yeah, now Adidas,
make you real.
Speaker 1 (37:47):
Right.
But now he's taking everythingfrom knowledge to born.
It's starting with the Crips.
Now, when he said the 90s, nowwe were going down the timeline,
the Crips.
When he said the 90s, we weregoing down the timeline with
Crippin.
Then he broke all that down,went through the 70s, 80s and
now the 90s.
Now the 90s, colors came out.
(38:09):
Colors.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
That was the 80s,
wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (38:13):
It was the 80s but
the 90s for us, oh yeah that was
the late 80s.
Speaker 1 (38:16):
That was the late 80s
.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
My uncles did a beat
on there, that was the late 80s
For our age group.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
that was for us, ron
in the 90s, For sure it was a
90s thing, though.
It was like the end of the 80swhen it came out Like 88, 96,
when the whole no 96, when thewhole blood thing hit the East
Coast like heavy.
No, it was 93.
Not 93, but I'm talking likewhen they made it popular, like
with the whole cut.
Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
I remember Channel 11, at 8 pmthey would have movies that
(38:47):
night and I remember they playedColors for everybody.
They'd say there's a gayepidemic, so we're, and Channel
11 played that movie the wholeweek was Colors.
Everybody's come out andstarted talking about it.
You seen Colors, it's a net.
And from there on that gameRemember Banging on Wax came out
after that, my favorite albumthat's not front row.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
Even Banging on Wax.
That's more cool.
They were actually teachingpeople this is what it is.
You know what I'm saying?
Regardless of whether it is orwhat it's not, they created the
program and said this is what itis.
And then even for us it's likeoh, this is what it is to be in
New York.
Okay, you got to dress likethis, do this.
It's all AI.
You feel me?
It's all artificialintelligence used to shape us.
(39:32):
And then, what's sad, they'reunder influence.
A lot of times, you starttrying to be like what the ai is
saying.
It is well, this is what cripis supposed to be.
Okay, that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1 (39:40):
I saw it in the movie
right, remember that time when
uh everybody was like uh cripwalking you know what the
biggest sin to cripping was?
Speaker 3 (39:50):
who?
Who took it all the way awayfrom any god body?
Ism any, any, any about?
Anything about revolutionaryinterparty services?
Anything about havingyour-party services?
Anything about having your armson 40 inches.
Anything about being the mosthealthy you can be.
Anything about smashing on thepoleings and defending yourself,
Snoop Dogg.
Speaker 2 (40:09):
The devil.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
You said Snoop Dogg
the devil.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Oh boy, oh boy, King
L is on fire tonight.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Bro, Snoop Dogg, the
devil, King L is on fire tonight
bro, Before we go into BlueTang, let's talk about that for
a hot second.
The devil Snoop.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Dogg.
Why would you say that?
Because he single-handedly madeCrip like something I don't
even understand.
He made it like him by himselfand his influence through Death
Row attracted so much attention,mind you.
That's where big you evil assgot his start Death Row.
I'm not saying he wasn't from6-0 before that, but that's how
(40:52):
he got into the mix with theartists and all of that.
You heard of Whack 100?
Yeah for sure.
That's how he got in.
He had no reason to be around.
He was a good friend.
I'm not being metaphorical, I'mnot exaggerating none of that.
The Devils.
This is where it starts.
(41:13):
This is when it became.
Crippin means to be skinny andbe a pimp what the fuck?
And talk with this weird toneand be extra I don't know like
have your head in the sky andhey, doggy, and smoke all this
weed and be high all day andskinny with tattoos and it's
(41:37):
like all that whole concept ofcrypt.
I don't know when.
It was ever like.
I remember growing up it wasall about being super buff ball
head, like you know, with thewith the goatee clean cut.
I don't remember it being thathe came with that shit to the
music.
Okay, everybody else thatpushed it after him was up under
(42:00):
him, right, right, even Nipsey.
When he first came out, what did?
They call him?
The new Snoop Dogg.
Yeah, that's how they sold him.
It's the new Snoop Dogg y'all.
Oh yeah, look, he's skinny likehim.
He look like he be pimping too.
Huh, okay, yeah, bro, like itmade a joke, it made all about
(42:24):
rap.
And then the rap started beingthe standard and the teacher and
the ruler for the streets ingeneral, but especially for the
gangs.
It was like the ruler for thestreets in general, but
especially for the gangs.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
It was like the Bible
for the gangs.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
I mean, it became
like the.
Speaker 1 (42:39):
Bible of all the
groups who were popularized
around that time.
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, what I say to
gangs is because when you have
gangs, you got all these largegroup of people trying to be on
one accord.
They can't all know each other,so a lot of times the music
kind of binds them, especiallyif they got an artist that's
from they hood.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
For sure.
Speaker 3 (43:02):
He represents them of
the whole country, then so if
you're from 6-0 or whateverNipsey, if you're from whatever
blood and this guy or whateverit's like.
See, here's the sad part aboutit is all that's good if it's
used how, when it came from,with the panthers or jet fort
(43:22):
and all of that.
There's nothing wrong withunity.
There's nothing wrong withdefending yourself, there's
nothing wrong with masculinity,there's nothing wrong with being
in uniform.
The problem is, we createdthose things and they were so
powerful that the devil said Ican't even fight, that I'm going
to just join it and infiltrate.
And he did such a good job thateverything we're into now is
(43:46):
the opposite.
You know what I'm saying.
So it's like Even the things wecomplain about, we steadily
maintain we complain aboutsomething as simple as weak
lyrics in the music, but we makethe music.
You know what I'm saying.
We hear the women complainabout, you know, b-ass, niggas
and all that, but they raisethese dudes.
(44:07):
You know, when I date a babymama, I be like why you letting
your son do this and that?
So it's like I see a lot ofthings that we perpetuate, that
we complain about, you know, andI I blame a lot of that on
music and I people think I givetoo much credit to music.
But no, I don't think so.
I think music is sitting aroundit's, it's in the air, it's in
the ethers, it's in your brainall day.
Your neighbor's playing it,you're playing it.
(44:28):
It has a big effect on how youthink, how you move.
That's why they put so muchmoney and attention into it,
because that's where the idolworshiping goes.
Who do we idol worship more inour Black communities?
I'll wait.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, celebrities
athletes, Music celebrities.
Speaker 3 (44:45):
You can be a
celebrity, but the music
celebrities.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Yeah, the music Most
definitely, for sure.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Now I want to take it
into Blu-Tang Blu, blue tang,
blue tang.
How did that come about?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
because of what we
talk about.
So, uh, when I, you know I wasfresh out of prison trying to be
part of the ai, so you know,let's rap whatever right you
know.
I said give me a girlfriend,just light skin and get some
guns.
Go to new york and act like Isell drugs and, you know,
kidding with the guys and allthis bullshit.
So once I actually did all ofit, I said this is some bullshit
(45:19):
.
I got to see Islam as I traveled.
You know people really livingit out, big families, some of
them multiple earths, you knowwhat I mean.
Seeds, all that.
I said, okay, got to live inthe snow, you know what I mean.
It made me want to be more of aman than you know the homie and
all that.
I've seen the value in family,really standing your square and
(45:41):
it.
It didn't work to where it waslike I just got to switch up.
I mean maybe I could have, butit became more like I had a
mission.
So when I got back to level, Icalled a case in pennsylvania
and I came back to level a lotand my name was kind of hot.
So I was, you know, around likeCrip Mac and all the little no
jumper type people and all that.
And there was an interview andI was involved in it and I don't
(46:05):
know God, I didn't want to talkabout eating booty and you know
when the first time, somebodysocked me and said you're from
40s now and all this stupid assshit.
So you know, my thing is thisthough, guys ain't no disrespect
to nobody, but I just feel likea lot of dudes are lame and
they don't have a lot of life totalk about, so all they talk
about is like that's all theyever really did, like they
(46:27):
really.
You know what I mean.
I'm up there talking about theMorris Science Temple and the
guys getting turned out ofprison with the guys and
pressing my PO and getting offparole without having to go
through the process like otherpeople because the Morris
Science, I'm talking about thistype of stuff.
So from that interview Istarted getting calls from like
(46:48):
people, like in the consciouscommunity and stuff.
You know what I mean.
So that led me down that road.
So I wasn't even reallytripping off the music, no more,
god, like I was dropping a songhere and there and my whole
thing then was to take all theattention I had from the lower
and from the 85, introduce themto the 5.
So you know I wasn't preachingthe songs.
I might throw a new outfit on.
(47:08):
You know what I mean.
Dress this line, make it.
Go around the homies, that'shis line.
Making go around the homies andsay y'all know the guy, that's
like.
You know.
I mean I just would put it.
You know I mean I'll mix it inthere, like how I kind of took
it, took it uh, leave from apage of the wu-tang.
They.
I never felt like it was neverpreachy.
They knew how to blend it inthere to where, if you're a
street person and you listen tothem enough, you just start,
ended up like realizing whatthey're saying after a while, to
(47:30):
a degree or whatever you know.
I mean I like it more like that.
It was more organic.
So, uh, as I was attempting todo that and doing it to my
degree, I'm on.
I was on what's called a crumbtv.
Uh, in the crumb tv, consciouscommunity brother I don't know
(47:50):
people hitting me up, but anywayuh, conscious community brother
and uh, he had a relationshipwith killer priest and what
makes?
that is killer priest.
We know of the wu-tang.
You know the wu-tang ain't.
No, just you know.
You know, hey, how you doingbackpack type of guys.
You know what I mean.
He's really outside for real,for real, like we're gonna put
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you to that.
But so it was funny to end upwith killer priest because to me
he's the most like righteous ofall of them.
He's the most like, you know,into the studies.
You got the right name likepriest.
You know what I'm saying.
So I'm like, wow, and this is adude who when I was in prison
it was, you know, feeling sometype of way right after my mom's
passed and all of that and Iwas getting on that wave of
studying hard.
He was one of the dudes we usedto listen to along with Nas.
(48:34):
He was deep like that, bro,he'll speak on the Anunnaki and
the false Hebrews and all that.
He might go for minutes,minutes in on it.
Like damn, you listen to hissong, you can go study, you go
look at his song.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
That's a fact.
Speaker 3 (48:50):
For Crum to bring me
over there to build with them.
That was an honor.
And then, like one day, they dothe music promotions.
I think Crum submitted one ofmy songs and they was like what
is this?
It was a crib, jesus, move out.
So it just grew from there.
So, after kind of just you know, looking, listening, observing
and respecting, doing theknowledge, observing and
(49:18):
respecting doing the knowledge,I kind of realized that the type
of brain I had, the reason Iwasn't able to translate fully
into the music, I feel wasbecause there's a formula,
there's a method that goes withthis.
It's not just as simple as thisis what I want to talk about.
You know, I mean a certain typeof sound, a certain type of
frequencies, a certain type ofso.
You know I mean so sonicallyyeah, guys, sonically it wasn't
there.
It was like I might be sayingsome stuff, but sonically it
still was ratchet.
So I was like I gotta kind ofget into it.
(49:41):
So as I got into it he made mepart of his clique.
He got a royal priesthood so Iwas working with them.
This is just kind of like thefirst thing out there, out that
camp, you know, I mean I workreal fast.
So I kind of was like the firstone, kind of like I mean they
got other joints look me wrong,like shout out to ty phoenix.
She got crown lows, kai zodiac.
(50:01):
But I'm saying as far as usworking together, it's like a
royal priesthood, killer, priest, presents type of thing.
So just in honor of that energy, you know, it just hit me like
I was doing that song withPlanet Asia.
I got a song with Planet Asiacalled God Body-ism and on there
I said I'm like met it fromWu-Tang, west Coast, crip Jesus,
they call me Blue-Tang andeverybody laughed at that part.
(50:22):
So I was like, all right,that's, I got to run with that,
at least for the project.
Speaker 1 (50:26):
You know what I'm
saying Right far as using the
Woo symbol, that was okay fromKiller Priest and all of that.
You don't have to go through norigmarole about that.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Tap in you know, what
I'm saying.
All I know is it was okay.
I mean, I don't think theyfinna go to nobody's door and
rip a shirt off their back ornothing like that.
You know what I'm saying?
Tap in before it do.
Speaker 1 (50:54):
This shit make me
exclusive.
Yeah, move it up, bring it upagain July 11.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Let me turn the
background out.
Hold on, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (51:22):
All right, how many
tracks?
Speaker 3 (51:24):
You know, the same
year that Morris conquered.
That's a fact.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
Oh yeah, that's a
fact.
Speaker 3 (51:28):
That's dope.
Speaker 1 (51:29):
That's dope.
That's dope.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
Thank God for
7-Eleven.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
God ruled the devil.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (51:37):
I'm saying Indeed.
So how many tracks is on thatjoint?
Speaker 3 (51:41):
Say that again.
Speaker 1 (51:42):
How many tracks on it
?
Speaker 3 (51:44):
This is going to be
my first time going double digit
, so it's either going to be 10or 11.
Probably 10.
I think I'm going to keep itold school, a side, b side, 5
and 5.
You know what?
I'm going to keep it old school, a-side, b-side, five and five.
You know what?
I'm saying that's dope.
I'm going to have CDs and allthat.
We're going hard with this.
This is going to be physical ashell.
You know what?
Speaker 2 (52:00):
I mean Back to the
essence, huh.
Speaker 3 (52:03):
CDs, all that.
I don't know if y'all seen theWu-Tang channel lately.
I don't know what's going onover there man.
Speaker 1 (52:16):
They called Avalanche
the Architect, or some shit in
Canada.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
I think he hacked the
page, though.
You see this.
He just dropped like 10 jointsWeird.
If they allowed this, then theblue tank has to have dropped
immediately.
Speaker 2 (52:28):
They were going
through a transition when they
had that new silver ring.
Speaker 3 (52:30):
They had to get
hacked, bro.
When you get off this, live go,look, you're going to be crying
, laughing.
This had to be hacked, bro.
When you get off this, live go,look, you're going to be crying
, laughing Like this had to behacked.
Speaker 1 (52:38):
I see Into the
Wu-Tang.
Hold on, you said the Wu-Tangchannel right.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
No Wu-Tang Clan on
YouTube.
Speaker 1 (52:47):
Yeah, videos.
Oh, I see Avalanche.
I got to check this out.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
Ron, we was raised
off Killer Army bro.
We was raised off Killer Army.
We know Killer Army.
He hacked the channel.
He said he from Killer Army.
I said we was raised off KillerArmy and all that.
We can't allow that man.
Speaker 3 (53:05):
That dude going to
get an issue.
We might have to go to Canadaand holler at him.
Hey, wu-tang, I'm glad I'm onNYP Talks List.
They might actually hear thisWu-Tang tap in, even though I'm
with y'all already.
We're killing all that.
But you know, we were on theWest Coast, y'all might got to
tap in.
I just was hollering at Shaheemand them, though, but the whole
Wu-Tang tap in.
We don't know what happened.
Somebody stole RZA phone Withthem, white girls, whatever,
(53:32):
y'all got going on.
Man Holler at the real guys.
Wu-tang.
I'm going over there and whoopsome ass up in Canada.
They on that final tour withthem white girls.
Somebody left their phone inthe wrong room and let them do
Avalanche to Architect Hack thegoddamn channel.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Yo, on that note,
thank you for coming out this
evening.
Really appreciate you.
God man, this was, this was,this was a crowd right here, man
, we got it, we got it.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
We got to throw back
this joint a few times yeah,
dude, bro, that's me a lot of alot of information.
Man dropped a lot of gems.
Man tap in with me y'all.
Speaker 3 (54:06):
I also got another
one called the black indian wars
.
I got a website.
I'm gonna give y'all a link ify'all put it down there for me.
I got the website, the blackilluminaticom I could tap in.
We got the books.
You know I'm saying we got goodcontent.
You know I mean merch and more,everything to keep it high
vibrational.
You know I'm saying we coinedthe term high vibrational
hip-hop so we ain't tripping offwhat y'all got.
(54:26):
It's just we.
This is high vibrationalhip-hop.
Right, you feel I'm saying bluetank.
And to the brother that saidcome on now, cypher, my name is
King LLL.
Okay, this is a rap name, justlike Method man or Ghost Face
Killer or any of that.
Don't pick on me because I'mfrom LA.
We just gave you our history.
You know what I'm saying nah,nah, nah that might be
(54:50):
COINTELPRO bro cause.
look, I want to say this though25 years later they can hands
off it.
Now the COINTELPRO has becomeAI.
Now I'll prove it to you.
A dude will go online and seeone person post something that
they made up theyself and sayyou know, they saying this, they
ain't saying nothing.
Your cousin posted that thismorning.
(55:11):
What do you mean they saying?
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Exactly.
Speaker 3 (55:15):
Exactly it would be
ai in they self.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Now, you know, man yo
, on that note, we are out of
here.
Peace to everybody, peace.