Diddy vs Cassie, Bad Boy History, Brooklyn Bridge and Knicks

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
peace world.
How you doing.
It's your brother, mikey fever.
Nyp talk show hip-hop edition.
We got clip in the building.
We got shawny other brother alittle later what up, what up,
what up happy tuesday.
Good morning, good eveningwherever, whichever part of
where you're at, welcome, man.
Missed you.
Fellas.
What's good, man?
Forget my life, forget my life,hold on right.

(00:31):
Yeah, you're good, you're good,you're good.
What's going?
What's going on, fellas.
What up, what up?

Speaker 2 (00:36):
we here, man it's a lot to talk about definitely a
lot, a lot to talk about.
We need to discuss Trev, trev,I want to start off with New
York fans wowing on other teamsOn.
Paces.
Why are we wowing?

(00:57):
I'm not a New York Knicks fan,but why are we wowing?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
I've seen the videos.
Man, New Yorkers are crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
It's the excitement, yo Huh, what'd you say, trav?

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I mean, new York never knows how to act.
These are Swiss rolls.
I'm just letting y'all know.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Yo, that's even worse .
That's the chocolate with thecream in the middle.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
Whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yo, speaking of which funny stuff.
Did you see that Fat Joan Jadaclip when he's like yo, I'm a
cereal eater, let's eat it.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
I ain't going to lie, I'm going to keep it 100.
When I was a kid, you couldn'ttell me nothing about Grey's
Papaya.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
It was the greatest hot dog on planet Earth to me,
hey hold on, we ain't, we ain'tgonna, we ain't gonna make
eating hot dogs like come on now, bro, like some yo, some things
be getting out of control likepause wow yeah like, hey, yo you
know what, ain't doing nofavors, though, like why you

(02:03):
call them like, why they callingthem glizzies, like that ain't
doing no favors, though, likewhy you call them like, why they
calling them glizzies, likethat ain't doing it no favor.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
That's a DC term, so that glizzy term started in DC.
That's the name really for hotdogs.
That's what they call a hot dogin DC.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
So I thought that was a young time that ain't doing
no favors yo, that's just DCslang, DC slang really.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
When they say I'm going to get a hot dog, they
would say I'm going to go get aglizzy.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
I don't like that I love DC.
Don't get it twisted.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I love DC, but I don't like that though.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
I don't like that.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Back to your point.
Real quick, cliff.
Let me tell you papayas, beforeI got married, saved my life.
$2?
That's what I'm trying to tellyou $2.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
We all come from the ghetto.
Why we act like pause?
Franks and Beans ain't hold usdown growing up.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
It holds me down now.
It holds me down now.
That's what I'm saying.
Never leaving that alone, neverleaving that alone.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
He said some things don't make it to the past man I
used to go to Gray's Papaya.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
That's when the hot dogs was 50 cents, 96th Street.
You get a limited toppings.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Sauerkraut and mustard.
For me, sauerkraut and mustard,yeah sauerkraut.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I used to get the sauerkraut and mustard.

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Onions and mustard they closed a joint on 86th
Street though right they movedit, they moved it they moved it
to a different location Papayacan't move, but Grey's Papaya is
still there.
Gotta take a trip up there thatpapaya world gave me, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, yeah, you know it's New Yorkers.
We know how we do.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the one on the famous one
that's right on the cornerGrey's Papaya.
I think it's opened back up.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
Word.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
I like them better than Papaya King.
Papaya King got better drinks.
You still want to join onFordham right?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
No no no, no.
Papaya King is on Fordham, butthe original one Grey's Papaya,
so I think 70-something Streetright?

Speaker 1 (04:02):
No disrespect, I'm not eating nothing from the
Bronx, bro, you're bugging theBronx got some fire.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
You're bugging, you're bugging.
I know what he's talking aboutYou're bugging.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
I live around.
I used to live around thecorner from the gyro.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
You can't come to my house.
No more people.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
The Bronx got some fire.
Yeah, yeah, you can't come here.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Yeah, Check you at the door.
Yo, the bar's got the best beefpatties in New York City.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Talk about it, man.
If you're talking about, likeyou know a little more.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Gyro King, gyro King, gyro King is fire and we top
two on chopped cheese and we toptwo on chopped cheese.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Yeah, yeah, because Brooklyn chopped cheese can hit
Top two on that.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Nah, you got to go to Court Street man.
Nah, you got to go to CourtStreet man.
You got to go to Court StreetDeli.
I mean, you get to Smith StreetDeli, you get the best job.
John Cheese ain't here.
You got to go to a specificdeli.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
What's he talking about?
I got to find the one deli inBrooklyn.
Go to any deli.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
If you block in Harlem, you'll find a fire, john
Cheese, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
I give it that man.
I give it that man.
That's the hustler's diet rightthere, $7 you straight.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I'm just mad that they gentrified our sandwich
though B-Lake.
That joint was literally $4 $4for the whole hero chop cheese.
Now that joint is $8, $9 B-Lakethat's a wrath, while we on
food.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
I mean, I know this ain't on topic, really, but
while we on food did y'all seethe crazy craze that's going on
right now?
I mean, I know this ain't ontopic, but we on food Did y'all
see the crazy craze that's goingon right now with Deli Boys?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yeah, they're going crazy on this block.
They're going crazy Yo 134thand 7th.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
This store's been there forever.
I don't know how long you canliterally you was able to walk
in there at 2, 3 in the morningget a whole meal.
Now it's a line.
I'm like yo, I hate that,because in two weeks that line's
going to disappear and it'sgoing to be like Deli Boy's is

(05:55):
done.
That's old news.
I'm like yo, this is crazy.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
The problem that I have is that the prices are
going to go up because of therush.
The prices is going to go upbecause of the rush Quick spike.

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Quick spike in prices , because of quick spike in
customers.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
I wouldn't have been able to listen.
Did he go through it?
Right now?
It seems like everybody.
Just, I'm going to be honestwith you.
I don't believe nothing.
Cassie told him.
I believe somebody told him.
I think she was with it thewhole time.
I think she played her handvery smart.

(06:31):
I think she was a part of thatwhole scheme.
I think she figured out a wayto get a come up and get away
from Diddy at the same time.
But she was engaging with a lotof that herself and she was
participating in it willingly.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
She did get a lot of come up on that too, no
disrespect, like, as you said,she was a willing participant
and I get it, you know, for awoman to endorse so much.
We know about StockholmSyndrome and feeling hopeless
and all that.
But with the text messages, thetext messages basically show

(07:04):
that she was was, as you said, awilling participant.
You had options to run out ofthere, but you fell in love with
that lifestyle.
You stood there, listen she washe was.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
She was laughing and torturing kim porter per kim
porter's friends, when puffy wasdoing the same thing to kim
porter.
So I don't have no remorse foryou if you was.
You wasn't standing by womenwhen you allowed another woman
to get beat up like this and gettreated like this, so I so.
So I can't.
For me personally, I can'tstand with you.

(07:35):
I don't think no woman shouldbe tortured like that or
tormented like that, but at thesame time, not at.
You played the game.
You entered the world First off.
You was with Ryan Leslie beforeDiddy and you moved on to him.
It wasn't like the relationshipwas bad.
You moved on to him because youthought Puff was going to put

(07:56):
you in a better situationcareer-wise.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
She got enamored.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So because you went to Puff career-wise, and then
they go with you.
First off, you wasn't talented,you just looked bad.
Good, we're just going to keepit all the way above.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
I've never seen the.
Where was that at?

Speaker 1 (08:16):
That's that bad boy magic, that's that bad boy magic
.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
She's supposed to be the Rihanna of bad boy.
Let's just put that out there.
I feel like she's supposed tobe the Rihanna of Bad Boy.
Let's just put that out there.
I feel like she's supposed tobe the Rihanna of Bad Boy.
She's very pretty right.
Now here's my thing.
Who was her manager?
Because, like you said, shecame in the game with Ryan
Leslie as her manager.
I'm pretty sure he was going toproduce a lot of stuff for her

(08:41):
and he was her boyfriend.
She signed a 10-album deal withBad Boy.
How did that happen?
Who was negotiating that dealand who said yo, 10 albums.
This is not an NFL team fam,that's a lifetime contract.
You got here Now I can seewhere she probably got caught up

(09:05):
, because that's his thing.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
He isolated her.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
He like him light.
You know what I'm saying.
I don't see grooming, I justsee like, alright, I got me a
nice young thing before anybodytry to get her, because Puff is
one of those sniper dudes.
Sean said it.
I've seen him spend half a milon her in Paris.

(09:32):
I don't know how you do that,but it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
But you're spending everybody's royalty checks.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
This was the locks check.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
They were supposed to get I right.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
They locked that.
This was the locks check theywas supposed to get.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
I was just about to say that the locks money.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Buff ain't paid for nothing in his life.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
He ain't paid for anything, man.
Oh, this is that, mason.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Method check, that's that.
Tell me what you want from me.
Check residual check, that's af***ing hypnotized check.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
That's that fucking, that's a hypnotized check.
That's that total budget.
That's that total budget.

Speaker 2 (10:13):
This Biggie's record right here.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
You heard, that's what happened to Sammy.
That's what happened to littleSammy.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Oh shoot yo.
Word.
That's ridiculous Because I'mhearing some of the wording from
the trial and it's like a lotis going on.
The acts are so egregious whereshe would take semen that a man
ejaculated on her and Puffwould ask her to wipe it on him.
I'm like what the hell is that?

(10:43):
I?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
don't believe that.
I don't believe that, I don'tbelieve that.
I think that was just tooconjugal.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
You think?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
she's freestyling I just don't believe it.
Listen, I'm not taking Puffer.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Don't get me twisted.
He's a freak, nasty dude, butsome things I just think they
had to make it so outrageous.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Make it believable.
My thing with this whole caseis where's the crime?
Because all I keep hearingabout is sexual acts somebody's
sex life right yeah, I don'thear about nothing.
That's like a rico or anything.
That's crazy like I.
You got caught with the gunswith the serial number scratch
door.
I was those guns used in anycrime yeah, all the crime.

(11:26):
You just get caught with legalguns.
All right, that's one thing,but I think everybody got
illegal guns on the low.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
But the judge, just the judge just said today like
listen, I hear what y'alltalking about, but I don't hear
nothing about coercion.
I don't hear nothing abouttrafficking.
All I'm really hearing this isa judge telling like the feds,
like yo where is the traffickingand coercion?

(11:54):
Because all we really hearingis HBO and then I'm like what is
my thing?
Is you got done?
First of all, I'm going to saythis Gene needs to shut the hell
up.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
Gene deal.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
You don't talk on every platform about Puff.
For the last three years yousat in everybody's couch and
said puff did this?
Puff did that?
He was in court.
He went to the court yesterdayto ask him are you going?
To testify.
He said no, I ain't going tosay nothing.
He done been speaking this long.

(12:35):
And then Dawn goes up there andsays, oh, I saw him beat Cassie
.
Okay, cool, you was just on theLove album.
How, what are you like?
Where are we going with this?
Like this is somewhere wherewe're at.
Here's my thing.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
I'm with you, trav.
I agree with you a thousandpercent.
My thing is we, in this digitalera where everybody got cell
phones with cameras and video,you mean to tell me none of
y'all was able to sneak nofootage of him wiling Exactly?

Speaker 4 (13:14):
None of y'all.
Maybe he snagged them phonesbro.
Shut them doors.
Snagged them phones man.
Pay you for them.
Phones man With all the moneyhe, you suppose celebrities talk
about.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
You mean to tell me y'all can't pay for another
phone tucked away, hmm.
I'm just saying you pay forthat phone.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
You pay for that phone that had the footage on it
.
Yo, let me get that.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
You know, what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Can I add one thing, though Most celebrities usually
have two cell phones, two orthree, depending on what they,
you ain't pulling all three no.
I'm saying if you take one, youain't trying to get multiple
angles what I'm saying is if hetake one phone you got the back
of the phone tucked away.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Like what I got this Yo can I add to this, though
that was wild.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
Yo let me say something, though I'm getting
this footage.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
I agree with what Trev, you know all three are
saying, because to me I'm not alegal expert, but just listening
to the case, it just soundedlike a domestic issue, a toxic
relationship, where one personfelt like they relied on another
person to provide a lifestylefor them, where she got tired of
it, and that his sex, he has alarger than life sexual appetite

(14:20):
he has.
He's very creative with hissexual escapades.
So that's what it sounds liketo me and I believe that he's
going to walk.
The only thing that is going tohappen, only thing that's going
to happen to him, is it maytarnish his image, that's it.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
I don't, you know, I'm going with the two week rule
.
I'm always go with the two weekrule.
All right, this is very much so.
Entertaining this pup to me iswhat Ike Turner who else was it?
It was Ike Turner that wasbeating on.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
Tina.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
Who else?
Who was Ike Turner and who elsewas another abuser?
He's like he's reincarnated.
He's Ike Turner and Rick Jamesreincarnated.
Rick James literally had chickslocked in the closet sniffing
coke for days.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
That's trafficking and coercion.
That's sad.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
That's the truth, though, rick James really had,
and he had his kids in the midstof the action before they was
even teenage.
They wasn't even Justin's age.
This is facts.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
This is Hollywood.
This is what they do when youget to a certain point.
How many times have we heardabout these mansion parties
where all this Hugh Hefner,let's keep it all the way above?

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yes, pedophile.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
This is the same thing Hugh Hefner was doing Puff
, just thought he was the blackHugh Hefner.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
No, this is Now.
Let's get into it.
Let's stay here real quickbefore we move on, Because the
CEO of Abercrombie Fitch got thesame exact charges the same
exact charges the day Puff'strial started.
The same day, they were tryingto figure out a way For
Abercrombie Fitch's CEO Tofigure out how he can be

(16:09):
Mentally unstable To stand trialfor the same Exact thing.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Can we keep it real though?

Speaker 3 (16:17):
We already know what it is.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
You don't have the complexion For the collection.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
I got me a little lighter to get to my benefits.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yep, that's all it is .

Speaker 4 (16:27):
I mean your fit thing .
That was kind of in your facetoo, because how you say it, to
even work in this shop you can'thave no beard, you can't.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
You know, you got to look a certain way.
I mean you working in thebasement on some real like Peter
Pan type you gotta wear sandalseven if you work in the
stockroom and all that.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
That's crazy over there.

Speaker 3 (16:50):
Let's not forget, huff was dating Cassie.
Now, if you're telling me thatI've been sex trafficking my
wife, when I take her out of thecountry, when I took her to
Miami for her birthday, thenlock me up.
But this was her girlfriend.
This wasn't no random chick and, of course, if I got the money

(17:14):
and I got the funds and theresources, if you got a good box
, I'm flying you in.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
But here's the thing she was sleeping with Puff While
she married the new dude Yep.

Speaker 3 (17:30):
Man listen.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
So what?

Speaker 4 (17:32):
So was you really scared For your life, or was you
hooked, or was you hooked Causelike, cause like yo.
When you think about it, man,if that's, if that's what you
want, right, if you want thatlimelight you've seen enough
horror stories of what it takesto get there that's just first

(17:53):
things first.
So you don't get too manypasses Like when you know, god
forbid, something terriblehappens to you but that's going
to happen to you on the road tosuccess if you taking that route
, so you're accepting that.
So when it now happens, youknow I don't think you have too

(18:15):
much of a leg to stand on whenyou speak out about it.
And then, furthermore, youwaited a long time.
Like you waited until this wasthe flavor of the you know,
because this is the flavor ofthe time.
Now, this is how a lot time.
Like you waited until this wasthe flavor of the you know,
because this is the flavor ofthe time.
Now, this is how a lot of youknow people getting rich, a lot
of females getting rich likethis.
It's the flavor of the nation.
So now is the time that you outto speak on it.

(18:36):
It just seems weird.
And you got 20 million out ofit.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
They thought she got more, though we, everybody
probably just telling us 20 msno, she, that's the truth, but
you gotta tell.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
You gotta tell the truth in court yeah the thing
about it.
I was reading the whole casesince it basically started a lot
of the, a lot of the info,because they they definitely
ain't televising it.
But one of the things she saidwas when she got to 20, she was
like they asked her what did youexpect, you know, with the book

(19:10):
?
So she's like yo, I expectedhim to read it so he could see
what he did.
Then they asked her well, howwas you going to get him to read
the book?
Like, how would you send it tohim?
She said I was sending it tohis lawyers.
When Puff said I think one ofthe things was he ignored the
whole book and was like whateverthat's when the lawsuit came

(19:32):
and was like yo, I want thisamount of money or I'm putting
this out.
That's what happened.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
He ignored her.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
He was on something.
I got a key to the city.
The love album is out.
I'm about to go on my UK tourAfter your book.
She said okay, you want to playwith me?
I want $20 million.
I want $30 million and settledfor $20 million.
Right Now, think about this.
His first offer was like yo,I'll give you $30 million, I'm

(20:02):
talking about to the cost.
I'll give you $30 million, I'mtalking about to the cost.
I'll give you $30 million forbail and I put up a house that's
worth $18 million.
They said no.
He came back and said alright,I throw an extra $20 on top of
that $30 and you still get thehouse.
I swear to God, I think he'sgoing to beat this case if you

(20:23):
can give away, if you have 80million like a good 50 million,
just to the side, listen, Idon't think he's going to be
tarnished after this.
I think we already know what'sup Like people are like get to
the trafficking and coercionpart so we can really see where
we're going with this.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Because right now, we already knew he was a freak
nasty before this came in.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Domestic violence that you see in the Bronx,
harlem and New York all day longGirls been screaming.
I'd rather cry in a Bentleythan a Honda.
I'd rather oh, now you knowwhat I'm saying.
Now, all of a sudden, he apedophile, he this, he that, but
y'all taking the money.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
They talking about?
Yo, oh, oh, oh, cassie.
He wanted dudes to pee.
She asked dudes to pee on herSame thing with Carisha.
Shorty asked dudes, she saidshe liked golden showers.
People be forgetting.
These are the type of chicksthat puff like these are the
type of chicks that drink likethese are the type of chicks
that yeah, this is regular freakoff.

(21:31):
It's called the freak off.
What you think is happening atthe freak off?

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Drugs, alcohol and People get peed on.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
This is a regular Spanish party.
This is a regular Spanishbirthday party to me.
When the kids go to sleep,bring out your beer, Turn the
music up.
Nah yo yo, Trevor's wild.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
I want to add to this is that we're all waiting for
the rest of this case to bedissected, and all to hear
coercion and Rico Message to mybrothers out here, man, when you
reach a certain Forget beingrich.
Conduct yourselves out herewise, be smart with what you do.
Practice self-restraint.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I mean technically he was doing all this behind the
scenes.
He wasn't out in public with it, so technically he was watching
what he was doing.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
No, of course, but it's just that you never know,
because listen man Can't trusthim.
What doesn't come out in thewash comes out in the rinse.
Be mindful of what you do outhere man.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Every downfall of every black man I'm starting to
see in this entertainmentbusiness is a female.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Hey, you see me shooting for Smokey Like this
though.
And you see, he's shooting forSmokey, like y'all shooting and
hit Smokey, oh, hot Sauce somechick just said the basketball
player Hot Sauce raped at 16.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
Like they got like.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Tori Tori.
Like who is Hot Sauce?
Like I know who Hot Sauce is,but I don't care.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Yeah, I don't care about Ray.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
I don't care about him.
No, we're on the same page.
We're on the same page.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
With the whole Diddy and Cassie thing.
I just want to get to the realcrimes.
I don't care If he beat thecase.
His image is still tarnished.
Just go away.
You got enough bread to go you.
Good you in your 50s, Justchill, Relax.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
Before we get to the next topic, if you go to
somebody's house and in theirbackyard is a 50-foot bed, what
do you expect going on at thishouse here?

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Weirdo-like behavior, depending on the individual.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
That's like going to the Playboy Mansion and not
wanting to go to the grotto.
I want to see the bed in thebackyard.
I want to see why you have thisbig-ass fence and then you got
trees covering the fence.
I want to see what happensafter the kids go to sleep,
after you put love to sleep.
Turn the music up and let's.

(24:02):
I want to see the party.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
I left the party at 1030.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
I'm not leaving the party, I'm coming to the party.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
Yo, what lane I think he take.
You brought up a reallyinteresting point.
When you say his reputation Tobe tarnished, there's a really
good chance that he beat thiscase, and we've seen Puff Switch
marketing schemes.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
No, yeah, we've seen.

Speaker 4 (24:26):
Puff switch marketing schemes.
No, yeah, we've seen him beatcases, for sure, but we've seen
him change marketing schemes.
Actually, we've seen him beat acase and change a marketing
scheme all at once with the Seancase and then with Bad Boy for
Life.
So we've seen.
So I'm trying to figure out out.
Well, what's the next step?

(24:46):
Because he did the gospel thingalready, right, so what will
you think he does next?
I want to see therapy lessons.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
He's gonna put himself in therapy, redemption
in all types of redemption,therapy and and all of that to
re-change his whole entire image.
He's going to put out theapology thing he's going to stop
messing with If he gets free,if he beats this case, he's
going to do a whole revamp ofwho he is.
But the thing is, his publicbusiness ventures won't be

(25:22):
broadcasting like that.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
No, no, no, those is not going on the front line, no
more.
I like that game plan you puttogether, though, cliff, that
sound like exactly somethingPaul for do.
Make the therapy kind of public, turn that joint into a reality
show, or something like that.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
He's going to have to start crying, Literally, he's
going to have to really startcrying.
He's going to have to gothrough an apology tour for all
women.
He's going to have to thehip-hop thing of Bad Boy.
He's going to have to changethat whole Bad Boy thing.
He's going to have to give thatto somebody and they come with
some new thing.
Come up with good child.
Good Girl, Good Girl Records.
He's going to have to changeeverything because it's

(26:07):
Tarnished.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
I don't think it's Tarnished.
No, I don't want to say thatit's not Tarnished.
I think the Bad Boy era reallyis over.
That's over.
That's gone.
We know that he was alreadytransitioning prior to let's not
forget, because he was all love, love, love.
It was all about love.
He already went there with thetransition.

(26:31):
What happened?

Speaker 1 (26:33):
was, you just had hearts bro.

Speaker 3 (26:36):
What was that what?

Speaker 2 (26:37):
the fuck.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
You just had hearts come up to your screen, bro.
What kind of magic.
Okay, okay, that's a step upright there.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
Listen, I don't know, but I think what happened was
Puff was already in the midst oftransitioning, just like he did
when he went from Puff to Diddyand all that with the Sean case
.
What happened was the case gotcaught up with the whole love
triangle literally, so hecouldn't transition too quick

(27:13):
enough for them to be like nah,love ain't do that, huff did
that.
So I think now if he reachedhis case, he literally had to
sit down.
There can't be no Justinrunning around, harlem shaking.
No Christian.
He was from.
No, what's up Christian.
He was from Harlem, who'ssitting there.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Mount Vernon.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
They need to just sit down and really buy an island
and name it.
Don't even name it Love IslandLike redemption.
Nah, that's too high.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yo yo.
I want to add something realquick Before Shawnee goes right.
I want to add something becauseshe's got a message.
Let's make this clear, nyp.
We're not this panel right here, because I got a message.
We do not condone or advocatedomestic violence.
Some people think, no, we'renot advocating.
We all have children here.

(28:06):
We're not advocating domesticviolence.
We're not advocating whathappened to Cassie was right in
any way, in any form or fashion.
The only thing that we'resaying is different perspective
and accountability.
Whether you're a victim or theperson inflicting the pain,
there are two participants.
If you sit there and allowsomebody to violate you and

(28:27):
disrespect you, you're viewed asa willing participant.
Yes, I know the psychology ofStockholm syndrome.
I feel bad for this person.
I'm depending upon them.
Whatever internal issues thatyou may have, you have to work
on that.
That's not the person'sresponsibility to help make you
feel whole.
Ok, cassie, I hope you're doingmuch better.

(28:49):
You're pregnant, you know.
Congrats to you and your family, but the evidence shows that
you were a willing participantat one point.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
You understand, so we're sorry about that sell
short with somebody you do toget ahead and evil.
Like don't do that.
Like when you got people that'sin show business that will put
on makeup and let other peoplewrite songs for them and then
let other people lip sync thesong and then they just be in
the video.
These is people that you can'tjust trust.

(29:20):
Like that it's a very goodbrand.
Like don't get it twisted.
It's a very good brand, justlike Nike.
You just you know, just likeNorth Face.
Great brand.
Good that you recognize thebrands, that's excellent.
But it's always best to lookbeyond the brand man, especially
when it comes to entertainmentand entertainers.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
It's called the entertainment industry, not
America's Next Best Talent.
I keep telling people this allthe time.
This is an industry.
It's an industry full of snakes.
It's an industry full of sharks.
It's an industry full of wolves.
Women are wolves too, Snakesand sharks in this industry.
Don't let them because a manhas the money that they can't

(30:07):
get attacked by a wolf or ashark.
That's a female.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Talk about it.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
Now let me ask you something.
If Cassie was white.
How do you think this casewould go before we?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
If she was white, she would have came up with her
money and moved out the way.
Yeah, this would have beenawful.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
This wouldn't even went to trial At all.
It wouldn't even went to trial,you would have gave $150,000.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I feel like they're doing this to all of our Black
entertainers at this point.
I'm not saying our Blackentertainers are innocent, I'm
not saying they are.
I'm saying that we get thebiggest headlines, of course.
Of course we tear each otherdown on Front Street instead of
ripping, tearing each other upbehind closed doors Like we

(30:56):
supposed to be jeep.
Checking each other behindclosed doors Like nah, I'm not
allowed to be shorty up in frontof me dog.
Like I don't care, likewhatever y'all do when I'm not
around, ain't my business.
But while I'm in the public andyou standing right here, you
got stories talking about he'ssmacking up in public.
They would smack no female upin front of me.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
Like that's not happening.
We're going to have beef.
I don't care how much power yougot in this industry.
That right there is a violation, because what if that's your
mom's dog that I'm smacking up?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Or your daughter or something.
Or your daughter or something.
Right, you get what I'm sayingMm-hmm, Mm-hmm.
Exactly when the men at?
The men I ain't talking aboutthe dudes with bread, because
that don't make you a man.
Where's the men at?
That's like.
Nah, we ain't doing that.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Not that we was just talking about that, though, like
, that's not a part of that.
Morality is the desk.
I think that's the major lessonin this right morality is not a
part of the limelight and, infact, morality may be the
darkness surrounding thelimelight.
You know, I'm saying it's afact and then, and then it's
like, you know, if people tendto back this person, to back

(32:07):
that person when they all wrong,how about that?
Like, how about that, you know?

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I feel like security Should be on trial.
The maids that stood aroundShould be on trial.
The person who went to go getthe liquor and the drugs Should
be on trial.
Her friends that talked to Indagoing back If she had any
friends that talked to her goingback Should be on trial.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
All of y'all should be on trial Her friends that
talked to Inda going back.
If she had any friends thattalked to her going back, she'd
be on trial as well.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
All of y'all should be on trial, because y'all
create, all of y'all help createthis monster.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Create this situation .
A lot of silence, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Because it wouldn't happen if nobody agreed to it.
Like we're not doing that Ifnobody agreed to it.
Like we're not doing that ifpeople was, if the morality was
like I don't care if I'm yourmaid or your servant or this,
you can fire me all you want.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
I'm not doing that because the moment you allow
this to happen, you're creatingthe monster.
I'm gonna be real with you alot, a lot of those high-end
hotels they have like immigrantsfor, like you know, maids and
so on and so forth barely speakenglish.
They're not saying nothing.
Bro, um, yo, I worked there, Iworked at hotel one in brooklyn,
right, and um, they, you know,they have like a revolving door

(33:21):
of people in that situation andthey have to work 12, 13, 14
hours a day, right, and if youmiss a day, then that's it,
they'll put somebody else rightin that spot.
Then you just world up, thenyou just out of the spot.
So in certain people, incertain situations, I understand
it's gonna keep their mouthshut.
But then there's other peoplein other situations that's like,

(33:41):
yeah, you, you probably couldhave stood on one foot you know
what I'm saying, could havestood on one leg and said
something no, but then again,you know, bought that footage
out of that, out of that hotel,didn't?
he wasn't that?
Wasn't that one of the things?
So maybe somebody did, wasgonna say something, and then he
bought the footage, like fromunderneath that person, like nah

(34:03):
, that's a dub but yo let me saythis oh god, no, no, brother,
go on.

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Also this was a fact that one of the police officers
that came and investigated Iguess when she had, when we went
during the hallway incident.
They called police, she saidand a police officer came.
They called police, she said,and a police officer came and

(34:35):
what he did was when he saw thefootage, he taped it on his
phone, he recorded it while theywas looking at it on his phone
and showed it to his wife, Likeso it was already out prior to
Puff, even really knowing that.
You know it was a public thing.
I didn't know that either.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I've heard stories of Puff beating on women since the
Uptown Record days.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I heard Puff beating on.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Perfect segue into the next topic, the bad boy
history, Puff beat he get busy.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Anyway, you saw what he was going to do to Homeboy
from Power on Halloween.
Yeah, we forgot about that one.
Like Puck, don't be.
You're slapping the shit out ofDrake.
You're fighting J Cole.
He don't play.
They say he get busy.

Speaker 4 (35:25):
Hey, you know what you know what you know what your
man Al B Shaw he been touringYo.
You know what you know, whatyou know what Yo I, your man Al
B Shaw, he been touring the news.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
His mom just passed away too, God bless, God bless.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Rest in peace to his mother.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
I mean, like been a condolence he been running
around and he was saying andit's made me think about how he
lost his family to Puff.
Right, it's made me think abouthow he lost his family to Puff,
right, it's made me think aboutthat.
We see how much of a villainPuff is.
If he wanted, he'd find a wayto get it.
And, um, he took that man'sfamily.
Then that man ended up in acoma.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
That man said he put him in a coma yes, I think it's
more to that, though, because Ithink Albus Shaw had her first
because he was the light skin.
He was that dude then, right.
And unfortunately, his lifedimmed right and I think when
Puff became Puff, when he becamePuff Daddy, when he was doing

(36:25):
the remixes with Jodeci and Mary, that's when Puff became that
dude and I think at the time, ifI'm not mistaken, puff and Kim
were still young, so I don'tthink he took her specifically
from him, purposely, from AlBishoff, I think it just

(36:47):
happened.
And then I think Puff reallycared about her and she cared
about him, because there's noway that you have, let's just
say, christian, you got thetwins and she's always been.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
I don't know man, we see how dangerous I mean.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Misa was dead in Alpo before he died, so we don't
know the type of shit she reallyis.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
We know how dangerous a man can be.
She often warns him about himtoo.
Like yo stay away.
You know, there's things thatyou know that kind of like.
To me it's like you know, ifyou're looking at it on the long
haul, if you take a step backand look at it On the long haul,
if you take a step back andlook at it, maybe a history of
this right, I wouldn't say thatshe's the first.

(37:34):
You don't just go all out likethat on one person.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
So I'm just saying like there's a history of that.
There's a history of him sayingI want that woman and him
eliminating the competition.
There's a history of that too.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
That's a fact.
I heard about that too, yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Yeah, there's a history of these things.
So like I'm not you know I'mnot trying to be a bit of a
conspirator, you know I'm nottrying to, you know, but I just
just looking at it I can see ahistory of that, but there's no
history of trafficking in allthat histo from what I see.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
I don't see traffic in all right racketeering.
I don't see none.
I don't see none of it, I justsee I don't see none of it but
all it is a bunch of control.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
He's, he's just over, he has a.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
He's just a controlling person he's a bad
boy, he got a resource as weknow, because I'm gonna juggle
to them.
Spit my segue into the historyof bad boy as we know.
Let's, I'm going to juggle themtoday.
I'm going to spit my segwayinto the history of Bad Boy.
As we know, puff was wild whenhe was in Howard.

Speaker 3 (38:36):
He sure was.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
He was wild when he was in Howard.
Since we get into the historyof Bad Boy.
He was wild when he was inHoward when he linked up with my
man, andre Harrell a realHarlem native Not on that play
for you A real Harlem Native whodon't have Uptown Records with
Heavy D.
I want to fucking get it.

(39:00):
They never like to give Heavy Dhis credit for basically
co-starting Uptown with AndreHarrell.
Puff was an intern, travelingback and forth from Howard to
New York you know what I'msaying Making his rounds, like

(39:21):
Shawnee said, when he was doingall those remixes and making
things hot.
He really got his burn when hefinally got Mary J Blige to pop
pop crazy hot.
He really got his burn when hefinally, you know, got Mary J
Blige to pop pop crazy, becausehe was really when he was doing
that intern or Uptown, he wasstill doing background videos,
background dancing videos forStacey Latisor.

Speaker 1 (39:45):
We forgot about Dougie Fresh.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Dougie Fresh, Stacey Latisor.
He was basically an intern forJodeci.
He really didn't do much forJodeci.

Speaker 4 (39:57):
He dressed Jodeci or something like that Real quick,
they dressed like him.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Puff was the one dressing with the big clothes,
with the boots.

Speaker 4 (40:07):
Hey, because he dressed like him.
I want them to dress like howyou dress right now with the
boots.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
Yeah, because he dressed like somebody said that
Right and they said I want themto dress like how you dress
right now.
And it just so happened, itkicked the mold.
Boys to men too.
Dressed boys to men too.
Oh, and let's not forget aboutOutKast.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
I thought someone was doing that with Boyz II Men,
michael Bivens and them.

Speaker 4 (40:27):
Yeah, I thought Michael Bivens was in that Puff
dressed boys to me and that atleast in Motown, philly, that's
Puff's doing and that's likethey most famous joint.
You know what I'm saying, youasked me at least from that time
.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Puff had a hand in OutKast too.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
Yeah, for sure, I've been playing listening to
Cadillac music.

Speaker 3 (40:54):
That video when Andre had the, he had the jersey and
he In one part of the video hewas shirtless.
That part that was Puff he hada hand in.

Speaker 2 (41:02):
TLC too.
Of course he had a hand in TLCtoo, but you know that's never
told.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Oh, real quick Let me say this While we're on the
history of Bad Boy, my fourthclip.
But if you watch Martin, theDevon L Hill episode with Jodeci
on it, Huff is in that, In thecrowd he's in the crowd when

(41:28):
Martin is going hysterical withthe laughing and shit Puff is in
that scene.
You got to look real closely.
But Puff is in that sceneBecause he was, I guess he was.
You know he probably was a roadmanager or babysitter for Joe.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Puff took all the elements from Uptown to create a
bad boy right, so he took to me.
I feel like he took a littlebit of his swag from Father MC.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Yeah.
He just made a little street.
He just added the street to Bad.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Boy, a little bit more extra street to it.
But I feel like a lot of hisswag was Father MC Mary J Blige
was basically it wasn't hisartist, but it was his artist,
right, like he basically moldedMary to be what Mary was, jodeci
, when you do the counterparts.
So when he got bad boy, when hegot fired from Andre Harrell

(42:21):
for being too much or beingextra, as Puff is, biggie was an
uptown artist.
Sure was Right, he was anuptown artist.
He was a bad boy artist.
He was an uptown artist.
Sure was Right, he was anuptown bad boy artist.
He was an uptown artist Becausewhen he signed Biggie, he signed
Biggie to Uptown.

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Yeah, that super cat video.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
So when he finally got his situation with Clive
Davis another one of thesesupposed you know people who
taught Puff this whole freak-offthing from what the word is
right I'm not going to say it'strue because I don't know Clive
Davis personally, but that'swhat the word is.
First artist was Craig Mack,right.

(43:03):
Biggie was the second artist.
Biggie was the first artist,but Craig Mack was the first
real artist legit signed to BadBoy right.
The only reason why Craig Mackwas the first real artist legit
signed to Bad Boy right.
The only reason why Craig Mackain't really get another album,
was because him and Big wasbeefing and Big was the hot
artist and they were tradingshots.

(43:23):
Yeah, a lot of shots, right, youknow Puff discovered the hitman
with D-Dot, the rest of themand Arne Rivera and Lance Arne
Rivera, um, a bunch of them, um.
And then you know, he startedputting out artists Craig Mack,
biggie, total.
He followed the exact blueprintof Uptown Records.

(43:46):
It was just the newer versionof it, right, because Jodeci was
kind of like they were stillpopping, but they was fading.
Blueprint of Uptown Records itwas just the newer version of it
, right, because Jodeci was kindof like they were still popping
, but they was fading Because ofwhatever you know, they had
drug issues and all of that, sothey was fading.
Mary was doing her own thing,but you've already seen her with
Pops, so we already considerher somewhat like a bad boy
artist as well.
Anyway, yeah.

(44:07):
Right Faith was there in thebackground the whole time.
He was doing background vocalson all these Mary albums that
nobody wants to talk about.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
They had the same similar style.
They do.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Similar styles.
Faith was there the whole time.
Then he found the girl group.
If you look at Total, it wasthe female Jodeci.
They were doing the look as faras the look.
They basically no, no, no,Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Exactly, they did have it.

Speaker 2 (44:40):
Right Big was the franchise player of the label
right Until Mase.
Until that boy Mase got signedand he was a threat to bid
Because a lot of people don'tknow Mo Money, mo Problems was a
Mase record.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
Yeah, you can tell the sound and everything.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
It was a Mase record.
Mase came on the scene Granted,I'm not going to take nothing
away from Biggie and say Masewas a better rapper than Biggie
or nothing like that, but let'sbe real when Mase hit the scene
with the 112 remix that was it.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
He was out of it.
Come if you want to Come if youwant to.

Speaker 4 (45:18):
With the Vansons.

Speaker 2 (45:19):
Yeah, then he did the Kissing you remix.
Then he wrote all these recordson no Way Out Been around the
world.
And aye, aye, aye, you knowwhat I'm saying.
He wrote this.
It was Mason and Lox, right, soJadon just wrote Puff's Victory
Verse.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
He wrote Benjamin's.
Yeah, he wrote the Benjamin's.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
I thought Cam wrote the Benjamin's.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
No, Cam wrote the.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
Benjamins no, cam wrote a little season of Cam
record.

Speaker 4 (45:54):
I know that part, but Cam is claiming credit for the.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
He wrote some other songs, but he ain't writing
nothing on no Way Out.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
See, you got to understand that Puff was.
You know, while we're adding tothe history of bad boy, you got
to understand this puff wasmore a visionary than anything,
because did what he added tolike when you look at uptown
records?
Right, it was, they wasn'tgoing to go.

(46:26):
But so far Puff was that personwho looked at Bad Boy and added
the street element to it.
Right, yes, he did.
He added the high-end fashionto hip-hop.
You know what I'm saying?
Because Andre Hiller was fly,but Andre Hiller was like dapper

(46:46):
, damn fly.
But Andre Herrera was like that, but damn fly.
Puff went and just skyrocketedbecause he gave people a look
and made you want to say I wantto look like that.
So when he went from the baggyjeans with the boots, with
Jodeci, then you go into theVansons with Mace, you go clean.

(47:09):
You took a Brooklyn dude,remember, big with Supercat had
a bandana over his eyes and ahockey jersey.
He went from that to a Versaceshirt and silk pants and wingtip
shoes.

(47:31):
You take a drug dealer hard toroll.
Nicky Barnes your pops.
You add that to music.
Puff was a different type ofdude when it came to fashion.
He told you how to make thebeat.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
The blueprint that wasn't on most hip-hop labels at
the time.
He had a production teamsimilar to Motown.
We got a team of in-houseproducers that's making all of
our hits.
We're not going to go grab aTimberland.
We're not going to go grab this.
I got all of the hitmen here.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
Matter of fact, all that, like you said, started in
Howard, because D-Dot went toHoward, exactly, and D-Dot
didn't go to.
He went to Howard for likeengineering, like scientific
engineering, some wild something.
You'd be like what I thoughtyou was just a regular, not D

(48:34):
you know what I'm saying.
So all that started, and thenlet's not forget the off-branch
of Cole, from Martin Cole, from.
Martin is also a party promoterwho started at Howard.
Him and Puff would go back andforth with who got the best
parties.
So that's just awful.

Speaker 2 (48:51):
Bad Boy was all a Howard connection from all those
kids, all those kids at thattime that was in Howard, that
was linked up together.
They was all from New York.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
And they just made it happen.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Yep and public all this with no money, said yo, I'm
about to do this in a hallwayand said who wants to be down?
Biggie got a $60,000 check fam.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
That was the check to sign the bad boy $60,000.
That was it.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Yeah, $60,000.
He got signed $60,000.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
That was like a million in 93, though.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
But you see, how you said, that's the history of bad
boy from Howard University anddealing with Uptown.
He was making his connectionsand he was a party promoter too
as well.
Remember that situation thattook place at City University,
city College.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
They tried to blame that on him and it really wasn't
him.
That was more or less to thepeople who got attendees, that
was trying to get in and it wasovercapacity.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
And one fact to add for you, Trev when you saw Big
with that hockey jerseyabandoned over the eyes, that
was when he was rolling withThug Life.
He was supposed to be part ofThug Life, but that's another
story.
Right there, Am I correct?

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
I know that one.
Yeah, biggie was supposed to beBiggie.
Just look at what Big did.
Look at how Puff created thatLike.
Puff made him confident, likefat, black and ugly.
However, stay coogee down,coogee down to the socks.
You made him a confident man.

(50:23):
You know what I'm saying?
We're going to throw someVersace shirts on you.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
I'm going to keep it a buck.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
I think Puff didn't like Pac because Pac was in
Big's ear, mm-hmm.
True, I think a lot of chickslove Pop though, and that's
another thing when you'redealing with ego.
And, to be fair, huff wasn't alooker back then for us.
You know he didn't have thatswag he was skinny with the big

(50:56):
teeth Right.
Pop chicks loved him, ghettosmart.
He was so skinny with the bigteeth, right, pac Chicks loved
him, ghetto smart.
What was it?
He a poet.
They loved Pac Like he was here.
You couldn't walk in a room ifChicks wasn't on him.
That's how you know.
That's how Pac was.
And I think out of everybody,puff was jealous of Pac.

(51:18):
You know, I don't think he wasjealous of no, albie Shaw, none
of them.
But I think when it came to Pac, especially when Pac went out
to LA and he got the Californialove and they were just on him.
And you know I met the girlthat they said Pac raped her.
I met her because my man usedto date her from Brooklyn and.

(51:45):
Pac can't do no shit like that.
He had so much where he had somuch respect for women.
You just know, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
So that's a piece of Pac she from Brooklyn, so she
was the toy.
Well, she was the chick thatwas used by, you know, hen.
So that's the pizza pot.
You know, that's just the wayit is.
She from Brooklyn, so she wasthe toy.
Well, she was the chick thatwas used by, you know, henchmen
and all of them.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Yeah, of course she was a group, she was a.
Whatever was going on with her,you know, God bless her.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
She was the set you up chick.
Yeah, she was a wolf.

Speaker 1 (52:19):
She was running with wolves.
Exactly so with the history ofBad Boy.
You said that you know wherePuff got his start from Uptown
Records when he got that bigcheck.
Was it Clyde Davis that gavehim that big check from Arister?
Yes, it was from Arister.
It was like 70 mil, he said.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Something crazy and he only gave Big $60,000.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Yeah damn, talk about robbery, bro.
Talk about robbery bro Talkabout robbery.
Talk about robbery.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
He gave every artist on the label the wild small
check, quiet as kept and kepttheir royalties.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Wasn't Black Rob there?
I believe Black Rob was thereright after Biggie right.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Black Rob was there for a while, but Black Rob was
still in and out the streets.
He was still doing robberies.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
But you know Rob said it himself that right before he
passed he said yo, puff treatedhim well.
He said yo before when hebasically was disappearing and
we didn't know where Black Robwas at and we realized he was
sick.
Rob was like yo every time Iasked for money.
You know Puff sent it Probablybecause it was like yo every

(53:19):
time I asked for money.
You know Puff sent it Probablybecause it was his.
But Rob did say that when heneeded money he had half-court.
Puff like yo, I need money forthis.
This is the medical bills.
Puff sent it like without aproblem.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
I believe that, but of course you're going to send
it.
You're still collectingroyalties off of me.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah, off whoa, all right.
So being that, you know we'repressed for time right before we
go any further, because we gotto do this bad boy history part,
so we got to go really deep onthat, yeah, I'm going to go deep
into that let's talk aboutwhat's yo the Brooklyn Bridge
situation.
Did you guys hear?

Speaker 2 (53:54):
about that.
I blame that on the on thepeople that own the boat I'm not
blaming supposed to know thelength of pause, you supposed to
know the height and length ofthat of those things on the boat
when you, when you, when yougoing under the brooklyn bridge?
To begin with, that's a given.
That's like trucks, when trucksis driving on the road yeah,
you gotta clear that'd be onthese overpass.

(54:16):
They're there for a reason.
A truck of a certain heightcan't go under those.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
Yeah, but I think they said that boat lost power,
so that's why he wasn't able toturn.
That's why he hit the BrooklynBridge and then hit the
bystanders on under the bridge,because he lost power.
Unfortunately, two people died,rest in peace, and others were
injured.
First of all, you couldn't getme to climb all the way at the

(54:43):
top.
That's number one.
That's number one, yo, I madeit.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Y'all do that.

Speaker 3 (54:50):
I'll be here, matter of fact, I'm going to get the
garbage.
I'm going to get the garbageNumber one, who sleeps in?

Speaker 2 (54:58):
this boat.
I'm gonna get you guys numberone.
I'm not.
I mean, I've been on boats,we've all done it we all did the
boat parties in New York.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
I never did that, I'm sorry you never did the boat
parties in the city.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
I don't listen.
Let me tell you something Iain't going on.
No boats, man, nah, never, I'mnot cruising.
Let me tell you something Iain't going on.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
No boat man.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
Ain't even cruising?
Nah, never, I'm not cruisingAtlantic Ocean.
Get me off.
I'm going to be honest with you.
I need to get off.
I need to walk on some grass,some land, some concrete.
You're not just going to haveme sailing.
Nah, I'm good, I'm good, Idon't.
Nah, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Cruisers.
You'll be all right.
This ain't the Titanic days.
You'll be all right on thecruise I don't know.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (55:44):
Not Carnival Cruise, not Carnival Cruise.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Nowadays they got all that Like they really be not
trying to Nah, I believe you.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
I believe you.
No, nah, nah.

Speaker 4 (55:57):
Nah man.
No, it was like the MexicanNavy, it's like a Mexican.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Navy seat.

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Navy boat Like a pirate ship though.
Where y'all going?
Who y'all going to fight Long?

Speaker 1 (56:14):
John.

Speaker 4 (56:14):
Silver.
What's that about?
When I seen it?
I'm like yo.
I was over here after this.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Long John Silver.
What's that about?
That was wild when I seen it.
I'm like yo.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
I was over here after the ice.
Ice is looking for y'all.
Y'all sit here just on the boat.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
He went wow.
They said we in the water, youcan't.
The laws are not applicable inthe water.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
First off, New York is chaos.
Yo, it's always chaos in NewYork, for no reason too.
You know why it's chaos in NewYork it's too many people here.
Yo, it's too many.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
Yo I was watching a video Yo people with yo.
I ain't gonna lie, that's ascary situation because you know
people just be down therechilling.
That's beautiful down there now.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
It is.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
It's beautiful.
That park is lovely.
They got the Luke's Lobsterdown there.
They got the carousel for thebabies.
It's beautiful down there.
You just got folk just enjoyingtheir day.
And then here come this shit Yothat's crazy yo.
You like is this my day Like isthis really?

(57:15):
Like that's New York.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, it is yo.

Speaker 4 (57:19):
That's the town.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
And then the.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
Thing is like like Cliff, I'm all the way with you
on that, though, right, becauseit's like how you ain't know the
height requirement, like what's.

Speaker 1 (57:29):
Like what's really going on here, bro.
I think they were just partying, I think they were just twisted
.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
I think they were, but technically there's
regulations in the water Ofwhere we at Regulations that's
supposed to automatically Beforethis boat even dock off.
This is too tall.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
That's supposed to be investigated.
Y'all gotta go the way y'allcame.
Y'all gotta go back past theStatue of Liberty.
Y'all gotta go back up that way.
He's trying to cut corners.
I ain't doing all that backpast the Statue of Liberty.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Y'all got to go back up that way, bro.
Where was y'all Trying to cutcorners?
I ain't doing all that.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
The Brooklyn Bridge ain't as high as the GWB, so
that's number one.
You can't do that.
That don't make sense.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
And the Brooklyn Bridge is one of the oldest
structures we have in our citybro, you cannot be running into
her like that bro, you know whatI mean.
People die making her bro.
You can't just be running intoher like you don't care which
one.
Y'all need to take that back towhere I said they from again,
when they, where they Mexico.
Yeah, they gotta go back, bro.
They gotta take that back.

(58:37):
They gotta take that shit back.
But what was it even doing?
that's my question it was likeno, bro, it's a naval ship.
It's a naval ship where werethey headed?
What was you doing on pier 26?

Speaker 3 (58:53):
that's what happens.
That's what happens when youshow off and you trip or you
yell it to the bus and you missyour step.
That's all that happened.
Y'all was showing off.
You thought you couldn't getcaught.
Rest in peace to the people whodied.
But for the people who got hurt, you shouldn't have been
showing off.
I told you, if you do that,you're going to fall.

(59:15):
And what happened?
You bust your ass.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
You know what?
With that being said, we'reabout to be out Shouts to my
Mexican people.
Man, Rest in peace to those twothat lost their lives.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Rest in peace to them .

Speaker 1 (59:25):
bro, Check that captain out.
There we go with them heartsagain B you know what?

Speaker 4 (59:30):
I'm saying Do the thumbs up Joy, Do that real
quick.
It's the other hand.
It.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Do that real quick.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
I don't know it's the other hand, I don't know it's
not working on mine.
See, there it go, there it go.
He got it with his right hand.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
And all that, yo no more hard, do that?

Speaker 1 (59:47):
That's that ditty on the courtroom.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
The return of brother love.
Oh ayo, that was ice cold yowhen he hit a nine, when he hit
her with the.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
You seen that In the courtroom With the heart in the
courtroom.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
That was ice cold bro but let me say this Kid Cudi's
supposed to come down and hitthe fan I want to know what he
going to say, because I justwant to know what he going to
say, because I just want to knowwhat type of car got blown up.
They said that see, cassiespoke about the car being blown

(01:00:28):
up, but she didn't necessarilysay he did it.
The car was blown up, but shedidn't say the car did it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
He mentioned it on that play album.
If you go back and listen tothe play album, listen to the
last night.
At the end of the record wherehe talking on the phone, he said
yeah, fucker, I made me blowhomeboy car up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
He sent him a direct shot yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
I know what off the grid means.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Let me tell you something he was trying to get
out the way.
No, what off the grid means?
Let me tell you something hewas trying to get off the grid.
He was trying to get out theway.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
No, this off the grid means cut your phones off and
we're coming to the backyardwhere the bet is at.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
We off the grid, yo, we out on that one.
With that being said, thank you, my brothers.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
Shout out to the Knicks, charlie, I know your
team.
You should have worn Nick's hat.
I know a team with the lastname with the word city is going
to be in the championship, soshout out to the Knicks.
I bought a bunch of Nick hats.

Speaker 4 (01:01:31):
Minnesota up by three right now.
So we're going to see Yo,that's going to be a dog of a
series right now.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
I don't got a horse in that race, nah, I don't got a
horse in that race.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
It's going to be a dog of a series right now.
I don't got a horse in thatrace.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Nah, I don't got a horse in that race.
It's going to be a dog of aseries with the Knicks and the
Pacers too.

Speaker 4 (01:01:44):
Yeah it is Nah, nah, nah, For real it is.
Ayo, your man, just let me getmy little sports joint off real
quick.
You know, your man, Halliburtonsitting homeboy tickets right.
He gave him his, you know,because Halliburton's dad got
into that, you know face-offwith Giannis.
Yeah, so he got you know anhonorable being is what I want

(01:02:04):
to call it.
So Hallie gave that kid histicket.
It's like yo, you know you comeout.
They're going to show him loveor whatever.
Whatever, I think that's cool.
I think that's cool, but Ithink it's going to get a little
grittier.
I even told my homie my homiebeen a lifetime Pacer fan.
I told him yo, you be carefulout there wearing that Pacers
hat.
Yo yeah, bro, don't come to thecity with that, don't come out

(01:02:26):
there.
Yo, yeah, stay.
And he out by Edenwood Styleswhat up bro?
Yeah, you good out thereManhattan 34th Street, all of
that, all that, dead bro, youdon't got that blue and orange
on you.
Come down there with that blueand gold.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Yo, you're going to go back home stripped bro, and
I'm real talking serious thisyear, man.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
Listen, we beating up Boston fans, beating up Boston
fans, word up, it's getting backto the 90s, man, yeah, yo, but
Boston was beating us up too outthere.
So now you're taking it out onIndiana Pacer fans.
It's just like that, that's all.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
But then I got this yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Yeah, but I got this.
I got this behind me, I gotthis behind me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I got Terry.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
Harper.
Oh man, listen, man, listen,man, I got Terry Harper back
there versus Natalie Zimmerman,man, listen, cross-seas things
is a little bit different, man.
They the headline, that's theheadline, they the headline.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
Terry.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
Harper is the champ.
You understand, terry, harperbeen the champ in three
different weight classes, okay,you know, oh, super fire, and so
this is.
This fight is in her hometown,in the football stadium out
there.
It's so loud it's gonna be.
It's gonna be a wash, though,because um that's gonna be a

(01:03:55):
wash, because if you see nataliezimmerman, know the blonde hair
over here.
If you look at her she don'tlook like she's 42 years old but
she every bit of it, and stillboxing.
I think female athletes arekind of amazing, bro.
She started about eight yearsago when she was 32.
No, 10 years ago she was 32.

(01:04:16):
She's 42 years old.
She in that ring Going hard too.
She there to hit and get hit.
She not there to be evasive,she there to hit and get hit.
On the other hand, terry Harperis just there to hit, like
she's just there to hit the hand.
Speed is tremendous, theaccuracy is Stupendous, the

(01:04:40):
stamina is all the way.
You're 99, she's the champ.
Um, yeah, that's that's this.
Her fight to win in herhometown is something she says
she always wanted since shestarted her career.
So I'm very happy for terryharper, the other two
individuals on this car.
This is it's mad fights on thiscar.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
But I should look like beyonce mungs a little bit
I'm like tina about the fight.

Speaker 4 (01:05:04):
I'm saying a little bit.
You know I'm saying then we got, we got my man, maxie hughes,
over this way and then we gotarchie sharp over this way and
that's gonna be a dog fight.
Um, it's gonna be a dog fight.
I think archie is gonna cometrying to look good and trying
to be evasive and bounce fromcorner to corner like he

(01:05:26):
normally does, and maxie hughesgonna wait on him and wait on
him and wait on him and catchhim slipping when he's tired.
This is uh, uh.
This is uh, archie sharp'sfirst 12 rounder.
I'm not too positive if he'sgoing to know how to maintain
his stamina Because, like I said, he likes to use a lot of
stamina.
He likes the first five rounds.

(01:05:48):
He's running from corner tocorner, bouncing from side to
side.
Maxie, this is maybe like his12th, maybe like his fourth 12th
rounder.
So he's conditioned.
He's had the experience.
He's also had the big fights.
He's got the big fights underhis belt.
He got robbed in the GeorgeCamposa fight.
William Zepeda beat theabsolute dog nonsense out of him

(01:06:12):
.
No, I'm not going to lie aboutit.
They got him out of there infour rounds.
But this is a differentsituation.
This is if you're listening andyou're trying to get on the
bulk man.
You might want to findsomething with Terry Harper and
Maxie Hughes.
You might want to look at maybean Ove on the Terry Harper
fight and maybe a point to theHughes fight.
Take the Hughes on Moneyline,something like that.

(01:06:34):
Maybe take Terry Harper on thepoints Should be free money.
Man Should be free money.
Man should be free money.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
I meet you at the window next tuesday looking,
looking at that, my brothers, yo, we got to come back with that.
And yeah, both you know I'msaying you gotta come out with
some more bad boy history.
Oh, I'm gonna give you somemore 20 oh yeah, oh yeah, clip
was coming back with the sportsand trev you gotta come back.
No more swiss cakes, man, trev,you got to come back.

Speaker 4 (01:06:59):
No more Swiss cakes, man.
All right, yo, you got to comeback with the hearts and the
thumbs up Need a chocolatedongle.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Need a thing in the middle.
All right, we're going to GracePapaya next week, all right?

Speaker 4 (01:07:10):
Trev, yo Trev going to come back with a middle
finger joint, Should I?

Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
keep playing with him .
I don't know how this happened.
To be honest with you, we'regoing to get some Grace Papaya
next time.
That's what you want to ask for.
Yeah, that's the iPhone Saladpie and mustard on my glizzy
paws.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
All right, All right.
All right then, brothers Peace.
Yeah, we out.
All right, peace AYP.

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