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What invisible forces divide people of African descent, and how can we overcome them? The Black Roundtable tackles these questions with profound insights on diplomacy and pan-African unity.Diplomacy emerges not as a formal political process, but as the essential "glue" binding Black communities worldwide. As our guests eloquently explain, true diplomatic skill isn't needed when everyone agrees—it's critical for navigating disagreements while preserving unity. This perspective transforms how we approach conflict within our communities and offers a pathway beyond the psychological borders established during colonization.The conversation unfolds historical realities often overlooked, including how the Berlin Conference carved arbitrary lines through Africa that persist today not just on maps, but in minds and hearts. We discover how government initiatives like COINTELPRO and National Security Council Memorandum 46 deliberately targeted pan-African unity, recognizing its revolutionary potential. Yet despite these divisive forces, our guests share powerful examples of cross-cultural Black cooperation throughout history.Most compelling are the revelations about cultural continuities that exist across African diasporic communities. From shared cooking techniques and storytelling traditions to identical nonverbal communication patterns, these connections reveal a unified cultural matrix that has survived centuries of separation. The discussion illuminates how Caribbean musical traditions like extemporaneous calypso performance connect directly to American freestyle rap battles—proof that our cultural bonds run deeper than our political differences.The Black Roundtable offers a revolutionary perspective: pan-Africanism isn't merely an ideology but a practical initiative requiring diplomatic skills and cultural understanding. By focusing on our commona

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Speaker 1 (00:17):
Peace, world, peace, world.
It's your brother, mikey Fever.
Nyp Talk Show Tonight.
We got the gods from the BlackRoundtable Victorious.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
LA Law.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
And tonight's facial guest Dwayne, it's going down.
My brothers, salute to you guys.
Man, you guys been keeping itreal, doing the work and I love
it, man I got.
You guys are very informative.
You're real about this movementand the g code and everything

(00:51):
else.
Proceed forward, man.
Peace to ayb films, more peace.
I've been to you in thebuilding.
Let's get a crack at man.
Yes, sir, tonight's show isdiplomacy and pan-africanism, so
let's get into diplomacy.
From the breakdown that youhave, diplomacy is an art and
practice of conductingnegotiations between nations or

(01:13):
groups, typically aimed atmaintaining peaceful relations
and resolving conflicts.
It involves communication,dialogue and sometimes even
compromise to achieve mutuallyagreeable outcomes.
In simple terms, it's aboutbuilding relationships and
finding common ground betweendifferent parties.

(01:35):
So let's get into that.
Can you break that down for us,brother?

Speaker 4 (01:39):
That's a I'm going to just say real quick.
That's a very important aspectthat we bring people who have,
you know, not necessarily, Iwould say, the status or a job
as a diplomat, but the mindsetand the understanding of what
diplomacy is and diplomacywithin their heart.
We got different ethnicitiesamongst black, so we need people

(02:09):
that are the diplomats fromamong these groups, not the
diplomats chosen by the UN oryou know some other political
party, but the diplomats whoglue our people together and
bring the differences, kind ofneutralize the differences and
bring us together across theselines that, as you see, we've
written, the Berlin Conferenceand other cultural divides have
created amongst us.
Yeah, psychological, physical,political, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Yeah I like the way he put that um diplomat is like
glue.
It's like a person who'sneutral and has the ability to
matters like glue.
It's like a person who'sneutral and has the ability to
come in a spirit of peace, toattract people to the bigger

(02:50):
movement is the spirit of peace.
Once we can come together, gelthe glue, bring us together.
That's the movement.
That's what people don't get.
The movement ain't theobjective of fighting against
all the stuff that's coming atus.
The movement is really ourunity.
Find the best ideals amongourselves to work together to

(03:13):
resolve our issues.
That's what a diplomat can bringpeople to the table the name of
the movement says it itself theroundtable.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
It's like yo, there's no breaks right there, it's a
safe ring and it's so beautiful,man, what you guys are doing.
You know the whole philosophybehind it.
I respect it, man.
You want to add on to that,brother Dwayne?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
not for when you agree.
Diplomacy is how you handle thedisagreements, and I think our
movements suffer because wedon't understand the importance
of diplomacy.
Diplomacy is about when we havedisagreements, when we have
conflicts how can we resolvethem in such a way that we still
have that unity and we stillhave that connection.
And you mentioned before aboutthe peaceful aspect of diplomacy
as well.
When we start talking about howwe manage nations and run
nation states, diplomacy isabout how nations can handle

(04:06):
these disagreements withouthaving to go to war or without
having to go to an armedconflict.
So I think it's important tounderstand we need diplomacy,
not for when we agree, butdiplomacy is how we handle
disagreements in such a way thatwe can still build unity and
the cohesiveness even with thosedisagreements.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
That's a fact.
Yo, you guys, you rocking it.
Brother Neat, you want to addto that?
Oh, he's went off camera, allright, so he.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yo, that was accidental.
I was trying to hit the mic.
The only thing I can add iseverything I'm hearing is right
and exact.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
If I try to add something, it'll just be a
flavor of the whole pot becausey'all hitting on it I took the
words really up out of my mindand what's so deep, before we go
into the next portion of this,is that we got people from
different walks of life, fromdifferent nationalities, ethnic
groups, and this part right hereis so, it's so pivotal.
Pan-africanism right is theunification of black people

(05:05):
unity, unity of thought, unityof action.
This includes a culturalcontinuity which extends for
politics and internationalrelations, the first stage of
this unity being a vastintelligence network to inform
this unification, a intelligencenetwork which is consistently
upgrading and updating itself bythe moment.

(05:27):
If black original people makeup the earth's largest group,
then this intelligence networkwould be the most vast and
expensive network on the planetearth when it is activated and
implemented damn yo, activatedand implemented, damn.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
That's what I'm thinking about.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
It's going to shift the universe, it's going to
shift everything, man.
Yeah, man, it shifts the energyBecause the unity pan means.
I asked a guy the other nightlast night I think it was.
He was telling me about theshow and you know pan-Africanism
, you know, I've read andstudied, I've followed some
pan-african activists who werethorough and I have a little

(06:10):
knowledge of the movement.
But I asked him because I goand ask him the word and what
the word means, because the wordrepresents an ideal and the
principle.
So we've got to do theethnomagic to the word.
They told me that panrepresented God or force.
The nature of our mind iscollective consciousness, the
underworld, a mentor.
So a mentor is a place where wecome together and gather.

(06:33):
We go there at night, we gatherevery night, our body travels,
our astral body travels to amentor.
So it's an unconscious state ofthe mind, a subconscious state
of the mind, that thesubconscious state of the mind,
that where we're working there,it manifests in the conscious
world and in the physical world.
And that's why you come backfrom resting, you come back with

(06:57):
more information, rest,rejuvenation, downloading, some
playoff stuff.
So Pan is a place where we cometogether, energy-wise,
spiritually, man to move forward.
That moves us forward rightthere.
It kind of corrects a lot ofthings that's going on, because
a lot of times we're not gettingour message across clearly or

(07:20):
obviously something is wrongwith our delivery.
So we got to work on the waywe're delivering it.
Man, that's a big part of anymovement particularly if we
don't come together globally.
It's communication, thediplomatic communication is
going to be important.
It's our energy.
We're moving our energy forward, and that's what they hate.

(07:43):
It ain't really physical.
The war ain't physical orpolitical or none of that.
It's the spiritual energy.
So we're getting there.
This is a good step in movingtowards um coming, you know,
globally united, and that's theforce of transforming things.
The underworld subconsciousrepresents pluto.

(08:03):
Pluto represents transformation, transform from one state to
the other.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
So and he's dropping signs, high signs, for your
those ain't catching up.
And this is bigger than just amovement.
It's like it's very informative, a lot of information and
education.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
Okay, to add on to that mag like this is yes, you
know, I think that we've seenand we've heard a lot of
representations of saidPan-Africanism and I don't think
they're all the bestrepresentations and definitions
of Pan-Africanism.
And if we're going to, you know, if we're going to deal with it

(08:39):
and get the best results, weneed to have the best
definitions and the bestexamples of Pan-Africanist work,
of where different brothersfrom here and brothers from
across the continent, brothersfrom the Caribbean, brothers
from Europe, have gottentogether and been successful
doing this cross-cultural,cross-ethnic work, you know,

(09:01):
have been successful, have hadvictories, because a lot of
times we see, you know, havebeen successful, have had
victories because a lot of times, we see, you know, what we're
beginning to see now is a lot ofoh, fba versus continental
African and black Americanversus Caribbean, and it's not.
I've seen other examples.
I've seen many examples of ourpeople.

(09:23):
Okay, let's say, for instance,robert F Williams.
He went to Cuba.
Sadash Akur went to Cuba.
A lot of BLA people went toCuba and were welcomed.
You know what I mean.
I hate to say this name, but Ihave to bring this up to.
Eldridge Cleaver went toAlgeria.
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.

(09:45):
Um, what's the brother, uh, whopassed away, who was from
california.
He, I believe.
He went to the congo and he didum, what is his name?
Um, uh, uh, uh, geronimo pratt.
He went to the congo and he wasable to do a lot of
pan-africanist work.
Kwame Ture and the APRP wereall throughout Africa and the

(10:06):
Caribbean doing this type ofwork, but it's because they had
knowledge of these differentcultures not only knowledge, but
appreciation and relations forthese different cultures and
then, most importantly, theyknew about the hidden hand that
divided us and they made surethat that hidden hand that
divided us and they made surethat that hidden hand could not
operate.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
That's a fact.
Yo, you gotta hit that, yougotta hit that.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
You see, because, like we know, in boxing, that
hidden hand, the hand you don'tsee, is the one that knocks you
out.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's a fact, so sucker punch.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Talk about it.
We had things like Cointelprothat disabled movements and
stuff like that.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yes, sir, and also.
I'm going to throw this in andthen I'm going to let Brother
Dwayne add on, because I know hegot some jewels for us, yeah of
course.
What is it?
National Security CouncilMemorandum 46 speaks
specifically about dividingblacks from the continent from
blacks who are here in America.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Talk about it.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Yeah, so I just want to put that out there.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Yeah, dwayne, what you got for us, bro, that's deep
.
He hits memorandums, Go ahead.
Yeah, that's deep.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
He hits memorandums Go ahead.
I'm going to start by sayingthat when we think about
Pan-Africanism, we have tounderstand Pan-Africanism has
always been an aspect of thestruggles for freedom of Black
people globally, and one of thethings I'm thinking about is
when we go to the HaitianRevolution, for example.
It was the Jamaican DuttyBookman that actually started
the Haitian Revolution.
It was a Jamaican Dutty Bookmanthat actually started the

(11:46):
Haitian revolution.
And we see that throughout ourhistory that Africans were
willing to go elsewhere and tosupport historicals.
We talk about Kwame Ture beingfrom Trinidad and his role in
the Black Power movement in theUnited States, and there's many
examples of that.
Before we went live, we talkedabout me being from Ghana.
Ghana's got a deep, deepAfricanism.

(12:09):
I could point to the Guyanesegovernment actually supporting
liberation struggles throughoutthe continent, including South
Africa, and Kwame Nkrumah.
A lot of people don't knowKwame Nkrumah actually was
providing support for theanti-colonial struggle in Ghana.
So these were allinterconnected liberation
struggles.
And what's important tounderstand about this?
The enemies of our peopleunderstand the power of our
global unity, so they've madeconsistent efforts to shut this
down, to create division, and wesee that again going back to

(12:32):
the 1960s, where Kwame Nkrumahis the CIA that took Kwame
Nkrumah out because they weretrying to stop the unification
of the African continent.
And as the CIA is working totake out Kwame Nkrumah, as
they're putting pressure onSekou Touré and these other
African leaders on the continentwho are preaching
Pan-Africanism, what's the FBIdoing in the United States?
At the same time?
What are they doing?
The National Party, nationIslam Civil Rights Movement, the

(12:54):
Black Power Movement, blackLiberation Army Republic of New
Africa.
So at the same time, we seethat government forces are
trying to suppress the BlackLiberation struggle in the
United States.
Same thing's happening on thecontinent.
That's why they overthrewNkrumah, you know.
That's why there was multipleattempts to overthrow Seko Ture,
and we were talking about KwameTure.
You know Kwame Ture.

(13:15):
That's exactly where he wentwhen he, you know, left the
United States and went to theAfrican continent.
There's a reason why he went toGuinea because you know Seko
Ture talking aboutPan-Africanism.
So we see continuous pressureagainst people who are preaching
the unification of Africanpeople.
Same thing in the Caribbean.
When there was a revolution inGrenada and Maurice Bishop came
to power, one of the things thathe mentioned when he came to
the United States was heactually read a document in

(13:37):
which the United Statesgovernment pointed out that they
were concerned about therevolution in Grenada because
their concern was that if Blackpeople in the United States saw
a revolutionary Black governmentin the Caribbean, it can
inspire similar uprising andrebellions among Black Americans
.
So there's also been thatconcern as well that if Black
people see one nation or onegroup of Black people having a

(13:59):
successful revolutionaryuprising, it's going to
influence and inspire morerevolution.
So there's been numerousreasons why we see this type of
international pressure being putup against the movements.
And that's what's so dangerousabout certain groups now who are
trying to instill that divisionamong the people.
You know, for example, like theFBA ADOS because they're
falling into the hands of whatthe enemies of African people

(14:20):
have always done.
They've always been trying tothat division.
They've always been trying toisolate and target certain
leaders Talking earlier at thebeginning of the show about
Ibrahim Touré and the pressurehe's undergone.
So we're seeing in real timethat these tactics still exist,
that the same enemies, when theysee African leaders rising up,
engaging in revolutionarystruggle and talking about unity
, the objective is to isolateand to neutralize these leaders.

(14:43):
And again, that's whyPan-Africanism is so important,
because if we don't have thatunity, we're going to continue
to get picked off one by one.
When Haiti had the revolution,the United States, france and
Britain all came together tosuppress the Haitian revolution.
Grenadian revolution was thesame thing.
United States government roseup and tried to suppress that

(15:03):
revolution.
And again, I even mentioned theUnited States the Black
liberation struggle in theUnited States being suppressed.
So if we continue to try to dothis in an isolated way, it's
just going to make us easiertargets to be picked off by our
enemies.
Because the international,global, western colonial powers,
they all move in unison theUnited States, france, britain,
all these colonial powers, theywork together.

(15:24):
They might have theirdisagreements, they might even
go to war with each other, butat the end of the day they all
come together to assert theircommon interests.
So for us as a people, that'swhy we need to really put aside
our differences and cometogether and unify to protect
our interests yo, bro, piece ofthe comment section.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Peace to you know, peace to all those that's
watching.
And yo, when I say these BRTbrothers are no joke, they're
not here kicking no rhetoric.
These brothers are thorough intheir research and information.
Yo, get on board.
You want to add on to that,nehemiah?
Oh, they keep cutting out, butyou know.

(16:07):
But now for real, you guys, man, it's like yo, it's like it's
so chilling to hear what youguys are saying, because you
hear people online talking aboutthis.
You know some will push it froma religious perspective and
whatsoever, but you guys arecoming just raw, like yo, the
information tears in your face.
You get what I'm saying andenough of that us just crying,

(16:28):
you know.
You know what are we doing.
We got the keys.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Let's get it on, nehemiah you know, let me add to
this real quick, real quick.
Let me add to this Revolutionmeans to turn around, re means
to reverse it, to change it, tochange the polarity of it.
So, revolution, the wordrevolution, means to change the
negative polarity into apositive palladium.
We have to change our approachto revolution.

(16:55):
It hasn't been working,obviously.
This is why the roundtable wascreated.
Brothers and sisters aregravitating to this with
solutions.
As you already see, the energyis already transformed, as you
already see, the energy'salready transformed.
The revolution is the unity andthe fact that we're changing our
energy and our approach todealing with your enemies.

(17:18):
See, the devil is reputable.
I tell brothers this all thetime.
Man, this is not what they canthink about me.
It's what Mr Whitey thinks,what he's saying and what he's
thinking because he's reputableand he's saying and what he's
thinking because he's reputableand he's a worthy opponent.
But our unity makes us championwithout an opponent, because
that's what he fears the most.

(17:38):
His greatest trick is to try todivide us, come to separate us,
and if we know that, then it'snot on him anymore.
So at the Roundtable, we knowthat.
So we're building a coalitionof pan-Africanists who can't be
bought, sold or compromised,because part of the movement is

(18:00):
niggas selling out too.
The worst part we haven'tmentioned.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Talk about it.
Yo, yo, they have to go.
Let's just keep it real, man,you sell out we weed them out,
naturally by changing thepolarity.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
They already did.
I remember when I first gotknowledge years ago, I used to
be angry.
You know, you find out, he thedevil and all this shit that
happened to you.
You be salty man, I was saltyfor a while, that's okay.
But I realized that the anger,you know, I transformed that
anger and I think that consciousbrothers, good-hearted people,

(18:41):
women, we have to transform thatenergy, that anger, into
righteousness.
That's what zeal is, and I'veseen a lot of zeal in the
community lately and I'm reallyglad to see that that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
So we want to talk about the goals of diplomacy,
and they say there are four keygoals of diplomacy.
Number one promote nationalinterests.
Number two maintaininternational stability.
Three resolve conflictspeacefully.
Four to find cultural commondenominators amongst different
cultures and societies.

(19:16):
Diplomats strive to advancetheir organization's, country or
groups objective throughnegotiation and cooperation,
while also working to preventdisputes and establish peaceful
resolutions when conflict arises.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
And that kind of speaks to what Brother Duane
said.
It's easy to say that you'reunified when there's no conflict
, but when the conflict comes,or when the pressure comes and
presses, if something cracks dueto the cracker who cracks a lot
of our unity uh, how tough wasyour unity, how strong was your

(19:57):
entity?
If it just cracks under lowpressure?
that's a fact but if it's ableto withhold and upstand
underneath this pressure, thenyou have a very substantive
unity and this is what we wantto strive to bring into
existence.
This can only happen by uslearning about each other.
You know, really learning EastAfricans, west Africans having

(20:18):
conversations, jamaicans andso-called foundational Americans
having discussions and reallyappreciating each other's
culture.
You know, that has to happen.
Happen because, like I'll saythis again like I said I think I
said it on the first show theone person who talks to all of
us, who some, some of us don'tall talk to each other, is the

(20:40):
white man.
Now, that puts him at anadvantage, the fact that we
don't all talk to each other,but he talks to all of us and he
knows most of the history andthe culture.
So he's at an advantage andwe're at a disadvantage.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Yo, it's so beautiful man you could tell this is so
articulated in a way that youcould tell it pulls from the
errors that our people made inthe past with these groups, when
we had Cointelpro involved,creating this dismantling.
They didn't know the game.
So it's just like watching thisreading this.
It shows that you know youlearn from all of that.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
And right now we set the foundation that this won't
happen anymore.
You don't lie, you don't lie.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
You keep getting burned.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
You don't lie.
See, that's what I want tobring to the roundtable
Solutions.
We're going to have to waste alot of breath on talking about
the problem all the time.
A lot of our problems is wekeep focusing on the problem and
not the solution.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
I see a more in here talking Brother, I understand
where you're coming from andwhat you're saying as far as
nationality and the word.
But to the popular, as you, theword.
But to the popular, as you putit, opinion, to what's known,
the European doesn't care whatyou call yourself.
I hate to say that to you.
Those who are bigoted will justcall you another.
I'm not going to say that onhere, but I respect where you're

(22:03):
coming from.
Nehemiah, you want to add tothat?
I don't know what his questionwas, he said, beautiful,
unconscious moors coiningourselves, black or African or
Puerto Rican, neither exists.
We Moroccan subjects to therules, taxation yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Mr Whitey called you Sam Jones nigga.

Speaker 4 (22:27):
Well, you know we want to deal with, we want to be
diplomatic and we appreciatethe brother coming in, listening
and watching.
What we're dealing with a lot,you know, I'm going to say this
real quick is some of thesubconscious agents that keep us
from coming together, becauseall of these things are not
visible.
A lot of them are invisible andsubconscious and deterrence.

(22:47):
You see what I'm saying.
Them are invisible andsubconscious and deterrence.
You see what I'm saying.
So we want to make sure thatthe moors are able to talk, to,
say, a brother here from fromguyana, and they're able to have
a space and a place where thisum negotiation and this
diplomacy can happen and get toknow each other better and
appreciate each other.
This is what we want to do.
Then we can have all the otherconversations about you know who

(23:08):
, you, who, they are, thedifferences.
But let's start with the bestpart and then the poor part will
almost become invisible.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, take the best part.
The best part is our unity, theworst part is our differences.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
Talk about it, talk about it.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
And we're the original people.
All of us, even the yellow,brown and red are original.
Graphic is the only one thatain't original.
So really, we're all onenationality.
We want to just cut through thechain.
We want to build a day.
We're the Asiatic originalpeople of the planet Earth.

(23:45):
Asia is our body.
The body is just like the Earth.
It has all the essentialnutrients and everything to keep
our body moving with energy.
And planet Attic is our mind.
It's the highest self.
So we're the original people.
We all won.
We all won nationality.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Talk about it.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
For the Morris brother.
That's in the comments.
We don't want to focus too faron where the brother where he's
trying to take it, because thisis diplomacy and pan-Africanism,
but so he can understand wherewe're at and what we're talking
about so he can understand wherehe can fall in.
Could you read the fourdirectives one more time, just

(24:22):
for the brother in the commentand after that I'm going to go
into it and then I'm not becausewe don't want, because we don't
want to make this antagonistic,but nor do we want anyone to
come on.
And if you have a question,cool, but in the roundtable and
I know it said it before but I'mgoing to say this and then
we're going to go to the floor,then we're going to go to the
commentary and keep it moving.

(24:44):
In the roundtable, weunderstand, everybody has their
respected places.
There's a seat for you at thetable.
The table is not for me to tryto convert you.
It's to meet you where you areand as I meet you where we are.
The work that we do isinitiative-based to show our

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unity and just in these fourthere's talking about a way that
we unify through.
We unify through, not unify at.
We unify through ourdifficulties, we unify through
our areas where we don'tmisunderstand each other.

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We move through it and throughthat we're carrying on an
initiative, an initiative tohelp our people, regardless of
whatever ideology, regardless ofwhatever nationality.
When we're talking about theoriginal people and we're
talking about a round table,that's 360 degrees right there

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and you're a circle seven.
Brother, you know what I'msaying, so you already know what
this round table is about.
So we're going to go back intothe four just so people can hear
it again, so you can reallyunderstand.
This is just the start.
Could you read those four?
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Before I go in just like Brother Malcolm said, you
know when you come to that table.
He said something similar tothat nature Leave your politics
and religion at the door.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
So I'm going to go to the four points again of
diplomacy Promote nationalinterests.
Promote national interests tomaintain international stability
.
Three resolve conflictspeacefully.
And four, to find culturalcommon denominators amongst
different cultures and societies.

(26:41):
We'll stop right there when wecontinue going.
Diplomats strive to advancetheir organization's, country or
group's objectives throughnegotiations and cooperations,
while also working to preventdisputes and establish peace of
resolution when conflict arises.
And you just get it through theright cover.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Okay, that's why we're here.
It's very important to resolveconflict resolution.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
you have to have poise, poise.
The round table is people thathave poise.
The only way you can resolveconflict resolution is through
poise.
Those are the people thatgravitate and have a seat at the
round table.
We're taking this away fromlabels and titles into
characteristic aspects withinyour divine nature.
You bring that qualify.

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You don't, you're not welcomingto the round table, you don't
have a seat.
You have to bring your bestpart, your best version.
You have to bring good ideals,a good attitude, cheerful spirit
and man, man that's.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
All we need is unity.
Man People, put aside yourideals and your ideologies and
just focus on one thing that'saffecting all of us, but we
can't talk to one another.
Another prime example is thatthe European could travel to any

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parts of Africa without needingany kind of paperwork.
That's what I'm talking about.
But you can't even come intohis land.
That's what I'm talking about.
We're free to travel in yours.
So you know that's something tothink about so let's get into
these questions, my brothers, mybrothers, what are the first
steps to remove the invisiblelines of the Berlin conference
which are designed to divide usinto controllable cults in

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sections, and this is?

Speaker 4 (28:39):
perfect, Anybody could jump in there.
I don't want to Go ahead.
Lord, You're the best knowerabout the Berlin Conference.
I would say just from myexperience first studying the
Berlin Conference and reallygetting a good understanding of

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what it was designed to do.
I believe it was the 1880s,which is roughly 20-something
years after slavery, so we knowthat they saw slavery ended and
then they said well, man, we gotto find another place where we
can take and use what we learnedfrom enslaving these Negroes.

(29:21):
You know what I mean.
And that place happened to beAfrica and the system happened
to be colonialism.
You know, and really, lookingat that and remember, these
lines are not carved into theground but they're carved into
our heads.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Talk about it, you know.

Speaker 4 (29:38):
Yeah, and they're carved into our hearts and
they're carved into ourpsychology, and even groups that
used to get along and worktogether do not work together
now because of these lines,these colonial lines, you know,
which have now becomepsychological and which have now
become political, and many ofthese groups were turned against

(29:59):
each other purposely tofacilitate them being able to
come in and steal what theresources.
That's why I say it's sobeautiful that these three
countries Mali, I think it's,chad, and then Burkina Faso have
come together and aredemonstrating to the African
world and to the Black world.

(30:19):
This is what your unity can do,and these are things that you
could not do individually, butthis is what your unity can do.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Give you things that you wanted but could not get
individually.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
That's a good fact.
You want to add on to that,Brother Dwayne?

Speaker 3 (30:39):
Yeah, I would say.
Going back to the questionabout how do we go about
removing the borders isdifficult because what we have
to think about is for so manydecades now we had the
decolonization process where wehave what we call independent
African states, even though inreality they're not actually
independent.
They don't really control muchof their politics or their

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resources.
The problem is because we'vehad decades of these neocolonial
structures on the continent.
It's going to take a verycomplex process to break that
down because you have to thinkwe've had decades of, you know,
these neo-colonial structures onthe continent.
It's going to take a very, uh,complex process to break that
down because you have to thinkabout the politics and the
sociology involved in that that.
You have to essentiallyrestructure the entire uh
politics and entire culture ofthe continent to break these

(31:22):
down because, as I said, youknow they've been here for
several decades now.
So it's almost part of theculture, part of the politics
and part of the psyche of thelocal population.
So you know especially whatyou're having to do on the
continent.
You're having to restrain howAfrican people really think
about these borders.
You're having to even restrainhow we think about nationality,
because one of the things thatwe need to keep in mind when we
talk about these nations inAfrica, nations like Nigeria,

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tanzania, ghana these werethings that we had to create
because of colonialism.
Tanzania, ghana these werethings that we had to create
because of colonialism.
So the colonizers came to theborders, forced these different
groups within these borders, butthey didn't give us a national
identity.
So, when we talk about Ghana,ghana is something that Kwame
Nkrumah had to create through anationalist movement.
Julius Nyerere, first presidentof Tanzania, he always said
Tanzania was something hecreated in his lifetime.

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So because of that, he said hewas an African first, because
Tanzania was something he had tocreate out of the borders that
the colonizers drew up beforethe borders got there.
So what I'm getting at is, as Isaid, we need to restructure how
we even think about thepolitics and the culture on the
continent, that, on thecontinent African people.
We need to stop seeingourselves as these nationalities

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that were drawn up bycolonialism, that we had to
create out of that process.
We need to stop, you know,seeing ourselves based on these
different ethnic groups andthese different things that we
used to divide ourselves, andreally start seeing ourselves as
a collective people as onepeople.
Until we create that shift,until we create that change
there's really, these bordersare going to remain in place
because right now the worldconformed to how we think about

(32:50):
politics and how we think aboutour identities.
So we need to shift thepolitics and the identities
before we can even have aconversation about how to get
rid of these borders.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Gotcha, I like that, I like that brother.
Yo, they cooking tonight, bro,you guys don't.
Second question is why do wecontinue?
Oh, you might want to saysomething, brother.
My bad, Nah, I was just sayingmic drop.

Speaker 5 (33:14):
You know, that was.
Look that's how you went to thenext question.
I was like ooh.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
You better move to the next one, I ain't got
nothing on that one.
You're really not playing man.
The second question is why dowe continue to confirm these
political boundaries, which havenow become physical and
psychological?

Speaker 5 (33:37):
I would say, in some type of way, through this white
supremacy system, we feel likewe benefit from that mental side
.
You know, when you think aboutit, what families came into
power and we're now rulers inareas due to colonialism.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
What families you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (34:04):
It's hard to detect somebody for some bread that
they just ran up into, justbecause they happen to be right
place, right time and the wrongperson.
Hey, you had a right placeright time, the wrong person.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
That was thought out years ago.

Speaker 5 (34:19):
Hey so when we're saying these things.
This is why you will have thosewho will say oh yeah, we need
to oust Ibrahim Toure, andyou'll be like hold on, brother,
you ain't even in Burkina Fasowhen you at.
Oh, you living in France?
Oh, all right, okay.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
You know why.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
It's destabilizing your nation because you had to
get the village and take it fromall these countries that you
call LDCs.
You know, lesser developedcountries and people are waking
up.
Now your resources, yourso-called resources, are at
danger, right now in jeopardy.
So you know, the unity isputting fear in them.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
And we have to also put into context that even now,
when you think about this powerdynamic and how the world power
dynamic, especially now, we'reactually seeing the prophecy of
the trilateral commission unfoldright before our eyes.
All right, and so you're seeingthe European sector, the

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American sector, the Asiansector fight and they all need
Africa to do what all needAfrica to do, what Fund that
fight.
So Africa is never going to bea part of that plan and be
thought of or seen as an equal,especially in this new dynamic
of world government power.
Africa was never seen as anequal due to its overthrowing

(35:44):
Constantly through antiquity.
So not only are you dealingwith the mental side of our own
people, who are empowered forbeing a puppet for this
colonialism, neo-colonialism,and you know these different
strategies to distract, todiscourage and to bring about

(36:06):
disunity amongst all African,new African people, black people
, and to bring about disunityamongst all African, new African
people, black people andwhatever else nationalities that
we have.
We have a million of them.
Literally we're the mostdiverse, genetically diverse
people on the planet Earth.
So when we get to talking toeach other about what you're
going to claim or whatgovernment you're going to be

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under, this very same thing washappening in the colonial Africa
, to those who were empowered bythis white supremacy world
domination.
They were going to others,displacing them from their land,
going to them, making them oh,you're going to have to succumb
and agree to my religion, you'regoing to have to succumb and
agree to whatever my culturalidentity is.

(36:52):
So even in some of the thingsthat we're doing over here is
like the brother made theconnection Slavery was abolished
and then they took thisresearch from over here and
placed it in other areas of theworld.
They took that research thatthey did over there and they
brought it back and brought itback over here.

(37:17):
So when we see what is thispower trip?
The power trip in itself is toput borders in our mind so that
we can't get to those areas thatbring us to principle unity.
And that's what we're seeing inthose imaginary lines that some

(37:41):
warlords was carving out on apiece of paper.
And one thing that we also andI'm going to drop my hat right
here, like the pastor say, butone thing that we definitely
have to pay attention to is whatwas said earlier these nations
argue, but when somethingthreatens, whatever grouping

(38:03):
they're in, they all cometogether and get principle-based
unity shown through aninitiative, and that's how you
have the carving up of Africa.
That's how you have thetransatlantic slave trade,
that's how you have anOttoman-Arab Arabic slave trade.
This is how you have us beingdashed and split into the eight

(38:27):
directions of the planet Earth.
You know, because they all cametogether and while we, what did
what?
Separated, separated.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
They have treaties and all that.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Come on, you go to Africa.
You see the next state over,they speak in French.
The next state over, they'respeaking Spanish.
The next state over isPortuguese.
Next place over you know allkind of languages, you know all
kind of languages.
So yeah, and I rest my headright there, powerful bro

(39:04):
Borders in our head, borders,false ideal of concept.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Talk about it, man.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
It don't take a lot of intelligence.
We know all that.
We can know that we didn't namethat shit, or they pushed the
border up.
The Dutch came in.
You know who set up the states.
It's a willingness man that hasto take place.
We have to do something new,something that's never been done
before.
That's what intelligent peopledo.

(39:32):
They don't focus on what'salready been done.
They focus on something that'snever been done.
That's better, that's a higherprobability of a statistic,
that's a higher chance of morepotential to manifest itself
again.
We're waking up collectivelybut you know we're going to be

(39:53):
at the forefront of healing.
You know, I think coming to theright cycle cipher to the brown
table or Japan, africanism,black unity in general, global
unity that's healing.
That's healing more thananything.
You're damaged, you know.

(40:15):
We gotta come out of these names.
We gotta come out of Babylon,man.
We gotta come out of all thisstuff, Because people got dual
agendas and that's.
You gotta come out ofBabylonendas.
You got to come out of Babylon.
You got to come out of thenames.
You have to come out.
If you don't follow the G-codethat's been given to us by the
divine order, you'll never getto the round table, You'll never

(40:36):
get to unity.
Talk about that.
It's a challenge for blackpeople too.
It ain't just for white peopledoing.
It's what we're unwilling to do.
It's our unwillingness to dothe will of the most high.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Yo, it's so beautiful what all you said.
Again, I'm just like somotivated by this, and it's also
a line that Jay said in thattrack with Jay Electronica where
he said no civilization isconquered from the outside
unless it's destroyed fromwithin.
That's what happened to us.
You get what I'm saying, you'resaying, and it went without

(41:08):
knowledge of self, and I wantthe public to know.
Knowledge of self is not onlylimited to the 5% of the nation.
In Islam, it's for all originalpeople.
It's to know your culture, yourreal culture, not what's
depicted for you.
It's knowing yourself, knowingyour history.
From there you're liberated.
You get what I'm saying and theunity, but without the unity

(41:29):
we're all lost, and that's whyI'm happy the Black Roundtable
is here to bring that to light.
The third question is whobenefits from these barriers?
And I know we touched on that,but who really benefits from
that?

Speaker 4 (41:43):
various and I know we touched on that.
But what really benefits fromthat?
Well, we can look at all of thedifferent raw resources that
are taken out of the continentand because it's looked at as a
place which they steal rawresources pennies on the dollar

(42:04):
is the continent, most of thecontinent, is not able to get to
a point where it produces itsown products, where it's able to
eat its own food, because theland is being used for someone
else to take the minerals out,or the land is being used, you
know, for some militaryoperation, so that what we need
to use it for, we cannot use it.
And we can look at all the youknow France, we can look at
Britain, we can look at America,we can look at all the world,

(42:26):
even China, specifically, evenCanada.
Now, who's there having theirway with the people whom own the
land, who have cultivated theland for millions of years, have
to eat, man, they're not eatingwell, and the things they need
to advance and, you know, moveforward as well as us here in
America.

(42:46):
We're not able to get to thosethings because someone else is
using them at their behest toproduce the results they want.
So we can't use it to producethe results we want.
You know, and you know I'mgoing to say this and I'm a mic
drop the largest contingentwithin the?
U the UN, is the Africancontingent.

(43:07):
However, they do not have aseat at the Defense Council.
No, and if they're the largestseat, they probably end up
putting they're not going totell us this, but the most
energy, the most money and theybring the most credibility to
the UN.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
You see, mic drop, Anybody else want to add to that
?
We good.
All right, so let's go to thefourth question.
These false formations andbarriers established roughly 25
to 30 years after slavery is thecolonialization, a larger

(43:47):
extension, expansion of thetransatlantic slave trade, as
well as the European serfdomSerfdom.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
Yes, yes, because what is lining up is showing you
that the whole purpose for thedisplacement was to lower the
population, was to destroy thecivilizations and destroy the
ranks, destroy the defense, todestroy the intelligence, the

(44:20):
messaging, intelligence, themessaging, uh, and then come in
for the resources.
You know, uh, we could go intoevery time.
There's some type of scribethat comes into africa and he
writes down what he's seen andwhat he saw, and he goes back to
wherever the hell he came from.
There's more people that comewith him, hey, and they just

(44:43):
ain't trying to see.
They trying to see, is it true?
So they could take what theyheard, dude said was there.
So this is happening inantiquities.
Well, let's not even go toantiquities, let's just go to
the 1500s.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
There we go.

Speaker 5 (44:56):
Let's just go to the 1400s, let's go to the 1300s.
All of these things that arehappening.
This is a, this is a mass warand the end result was to get
the resources.
You see that with the Silk Road, you see that with the
rapidness of the Eritrean SeaBrother Mag put me on that,

(45:20):
messed my head up Everybody wantto talk about boats but nobody
talks about trading.
And if we don't talk abouttrading and our resources and
economics economics not meaninglegal legal tender, some cotton
dollars and some little metalshingle, shingle last coins
we're talking about resources,how you keep them and how you

(45:42):
manage them and how you multiplythem.
If we keep our eyes on See,they say keep your eyes on the
money and got your ass off theresource, keep your eyes on the
resource, keep your eyes on theresource, because right now
they're giving everybody allkind of buku dollars, but are
they giving the resource?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
That's infinity right there.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
That's what the battle was about.
The battle was always about theresource Because if the battle
was just about some race shit,and that was it.
Well then, why would they paythis ethnic group in this
kingdom to knock off thatkingdom?
And then, as they knock offthat kingdom and put them into
slavery, hell, the same dudesthey just put on the boat, the
same ones that put them on theboat, is going to be on the boat

(46:23):
in a couple days from now.
They all going to be on thegoddamn boat, you know.
And then now they got to sit onthe boat and figure out how
they're going to work through.
You put me in this situation.
Now they got to figure out howthey're going to get up out of
this.
And then now the resentmentgrows, the mental side grows,
and then also, what grows is usnot talking to each other.

(46:45):
That's not dealing with eachother, but we just dealt with
somebody that paid us to knockeach other off.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Distrust man.
That's the same with Wintel Pro, what they call that again.
Willie Lynch, Gene Roberts, FBI.
There it is.

Speaker 5 (47:00):
And then, while we're not talking to each other, the
resources are getting stolen.
Or then, when someone's tryingto make a side deal, you know,
just for the extracts of theresources, I think what was it?
The IMF or somebody said fiveyears ago that they was going to
, you know, a blue, coolpercentage I can't remember, but
it was a stupid number and theysaid that they was going to be

(47:21):
extracting more minerals.
I guess they knew what time wascoming and they said hurry up.
You know so.
It's always the resource youknow.
Think about where them tiresfrom Firestone was coming from.
You know what I'm saying.
Think about what's in your cellphone and how that's made, you

(47:42):
know.
Think about all of these thingsthat's still making the world
spin today.
Think about even you want tothink about the so-called Middle
East for oil.
Think about Africa when itcomes to the oil.
Oil's so good.
You got people, that's.
You talk about being in thetrenches, these dudes in the
trenches, and they just stole aboat.
And they on the way to rob aRoyal Debt Seal.

(48:04):
They on the way to rob aBritish Petroleum.
You want to talk about blooddiamonds, but we want to.
We don't want to talk aboutblood diamonds, but we want to
talk about you.
Know how I look?
Ice dripping like a faucet andthen look how they got you
buying your own shit back.
It's always the resources.
It's always the resources.

(48:24):
It's always the resources.
Look in your computer.
Look at all of the things thatmake this life in the West so
comfortable for us.
Ask yourself, huh, where didshit come from?
We may just be playing the hand.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Talk about it Investing in our own demise.
It's our own demise.
Talk about it Investing in ourown demise.
Wow that's real right there.
So the fifth question, man,what are Africa's common
denominators?
Amongst Africans, many cultureCommon denominators which do not

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have colonial roots anddemonstrate a continuity and a
oneness within African culture.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
Pardon, and I would like to direct that question to
my brother Dwayne, because I'msure he has some good input.
Yeah, Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 (49:21):
Yeah, so I'm actually going to start by speaking
about Kwame Ture.
When you read his autobiographyReady for Revolution, he talks
about that, even though he'sfrom Trinidad, when he came to
the United States, particularlythe South, he said he felt at
home, he felt like he's back inTrinidad.
Then he went to Guinea.
Same thing in Guinea.
He feels like he's back at homein Trinidad.
Why I mention that is because,as a Guyanese living in the

(49:43):
United States, I have the sameexperience that when I'm, you
know, especially in thatSouthern Black American culture,
I'm right at home, especiallywhen you get to the Gullah
Geechee the Gullah GeecheeCreole that sounds like West
Indian Creole.
That's a fact, particularly forme.
When I went to Ghana the firsttime, you know the sister I was
staying with.

(50:03):
She was introducing me to thelocal culture and I was shocked
because, like, for example, sheintroduced me to local dances,
pulled up videos of Caribbeancarnival and sustained dance,
and we didn't, we didn't evenknow it was a connection until I
got to Ghana.
And here's the other thing thatwhen I went to Ghana, I started
talking about you know thenames in Ghana because we still
have Akan names in Ghana.

(50:24):
We still have, you know, peoplein Kwame, Mufi, Wesi.
These are Akan names.
So when I go to Ghana, it's thesame people with the same names
, interacting with each otherfrom different parts of the
world, from different countries,we start seeing these cultural

(50:47):
connections and these culturalsimilarities that we don't even
know are there because we're notreally interacting with each
other, not really engaging andhaving these conversations.
So, you know, for me, assomebody who's been doing this
work for a long time, beenbuilding with Black people from
all across the world, we starttalking about culture and we're
going to find some things aboutour culture that are similar and
then we we keep digging evendeeper and we start realizing
that you know, culturally as apeople, we have more that's

(51:08):
similar, that than that'sdissimilar.
We have more that unites usthan divides us.
And I'll mention um sheikhantaria, the senegalese scholar.
He actually, on this very topic, called the cultural unity of
black africa and what he'stalking about it's the same
thing that I'm talking about.
That when we really startdigging into our cultures,
regardless of where we'relocated in this world, it's one

(51:28):
culture, it's the same culture.
And I've said from myexperience coming from the
Caribbean, you know, buildingbrothers and sisters here in the
States, going to West Africa,building with brothers and
sisters in West Africa.
It's one culture and the morewe have these conversations.
The more we interact with eachother, the more we really build
on our cultural connections.
We start seeing these thingsNow.
I'll give one final example,Again coming from a Caribbean

(51:51):
West Indian culture.
We have what we call theCalypso music.
You know Kaiso I'm from WestAfrica.
Why I mention it is withinKaiso there's a tradition of
extemporaneous singing.
There's a tradition ofextemporaneous singing.
So what extemporaneous is?
And we have extemporaneouscompetitions where your brothers
and sisters will get on stageand just start essentially
freestyling these lyrics fromoff the dome.

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And it's a competition.
It's like a back and forth.
You're just up there singing,freestyling it.
It's the same thing here.
That's the dozens, that'sfreestyle battle, rap.
So that's what I mean.
When you start reallyinteracting with the cultures
and seeing these connections,you'll see that how unified we
are as a people.
But you know to.
To do this, we really need to,like I said, start building
these connections, startinteracting with each other as a

(52:35):
people, and that's why I know Iuse the example of kaisa,
because a lot of brothers andsisters from west indies will
know that's an aspect of our,but they won't necessarily see
that connection with rap musicin the States.
And it's the same thing here.
You know how many people whoare at fans in the States even
know anything about West Indianmusic like that about?
You know not just Kaiso, butdancehall, reggae music, even
though that was a big influencein the early development of hip

(52:56):
hop?
How many people really knowabout these connections?
So that's why we really, as apeople, need to not just have
these conversations from apolitical standpoint, but talk
to each other about a culture,study each other's cultures, and
we really are getting theseconnections when we do that.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Bro, bro, yo for real the BRT, the Black.
Run Tape, you guys are no joke,bro, it's so.
The collective it's acollection, because people yo,
growing up in new york, I alwaysknew we was always one, just
different languages, you know.
But the culture, I go to yourhouse.
I'm like I got that in my houseand I'm not talking about stuff
here.
I'm talking about, like certainspices, how we cook, how we

(53:39):
interact, um, even down to themusic, like the music was always
storytelling.
You go back to like af, talkabout the griots.
He's telling a story.
It's passed down.
You have to understand.
You got to feel the rhythm.
We are so rich in culture but Idon't know why the division.
But here's how deep it is.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
It's not just the food, it's not just the music,
it's even nonverbal things.
I remember years ago I cameacross an article by a guinness
couple.
They came to the united statesand they noticed that all black
people in the united stateswould subject when they're
frustrated and that's about tothem because, like you know,
this is what black people doback home.
It's the universal sign amongblack people that you're

(54:17):
frustrated or you're irritated.
But why they did this paper iswhen they started asking white
people in America what thatmeant.
The white people didn't know.
So that's a nonverbal means ofcommunication that we understand
among ourselves that thesewhite people didn't know about.
So in this research paper theseGuineans start trying to
investigate well, where doesthis come from?
And in their research theyfound out that this is a West

(54:38):
African practice.
This is something that WestAfricans do, that Black, black
americans, um, obviously theseancestral roots.
So that's how deep it is, thateven just non-verbal forms of
communication that we don't eventhink about as a people,
because it's just naturally partof our culture.
It's something that uniquely,uh, connects us and unifies us
in ways that other peopleoutside of our culture just
don't hold.

Speaker 1 (54:59):
Hold on a second brother.
So whatever that, fba Freeman,this person is an idiot.
You missed the whole show andI'm not going to engage with
this person as much becauseyou're a fool, I'm going to ban
you right now.

Speaker 5 (55:12):
He doesn't want to be seen.
That's all.
You know how people are.
Sometimes they want that extralove in life and don't know how
to say hey, bro, I like whaty'all doing and I just want to
shout out.
So they go and try to troll andsomething and thought they
could throw off the energy.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
That's the problem, exactly.

Speaker 5 (55:31):
And that's what divides us.
That's the sellout right there.
And I'm going to say this theydon't know how to be a part, so
they try to rip it apart.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
If our opponents are playing team ball, a team sport,
and you're trying to winagainst a team, as an individual
you're not going to even scoreat all.
You're going to get totallyshut down.
Because you're playingindividual ball, you might get a
highlight.
Maybe possibly they D you down.
You ain't getting nothing.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
And that's what we're trying to do Just a mascot.
It's looking ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
So if we want to be able to play in this team.
Sport of internationalism gotto get out of individualist
start.
Just saying it's the only way.

Speaker 5 (56:17):
And to answer the question, people keep trying to
look for this definition ofPan-Af, pan Africanism.
It was already broke down, butwe'll give you.
You got pan.
You know we gave you thespiritual, we did the high
science, but we'll give it toyou because we know you still
looking.
Pan means all.
And then when you got Africa,all right, and people say, oh,

(56:39):
that's the white man, okay, butlet's go back to what they said.
It meant Going back to theopening of the soul, right?
Well, we, the originals,whether you believe you are
African or not, in whateverlanguage that is, and you
believe you're the originalperson and that everything
that's making this world goround came from the original

(57:01):
person, that we they even saythat we gave the world what.
so so and so you see that car,that's the soul, that's the soul
you're, you ain't.
You can come and say ah brother, I'm not that I'm the original,
fuck it, I'm the last of themohican.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Okay, cool, your original your original, though
your original, okay.
Let's go back'm the last of theMohican, okay cool.

Speaker 5 (57:24):
You original, though you original.
Okay, let's go back to theopening of the soul.
So that's why we look at Africaas the throne land.
The white man looks at Africaas the throne land.
The white man will tell youit's his homeland.
He will tell you that hemutated out of Africa.
He will tell you that he wentto a place where his nose it got

(57:45):
small.
Dad was so cold he couldn'tbreathe at all, so his nose got
small.
He would tell you that the wayhe went it wasn't warm, so the
blood had to slow down.
And when it slowed down it madehis bones weak.
It took away the melanin of thepigment in his skin.
He would use this very samething to tell you why he can go

(58:07):
to Africa.

Speaker 1 (58:09):
Exactly who's going to have more of an impact?

Speaker 4 (58:13):
The diplomat or the micro-nationalist, the person?
That's shrinking, or the personthat's expanding.

Speaker 5 (58:20):
Hey, people don't even know the silo exists.
If you stay in the silo, theonly people that know about it.
You don't even know you're inthe silo.
You don't even know the siloexists If you stay in the silo
the only people that know aboutthe silo.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
You don't even know, you in the silo.
Come on man.

Speaker 5 (58:28):
And the people don't even know you exist.
You don't even know what existsoutside the silo.
So Pan-Africanism is adiplomatic initiative.
We keep trying to say ideology,ideology, pan-africanism is the
initiative.
We're scattered all across theworld.
Ideology, ideology,pan-africanism is the initiative
.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
We're scattered all across the world.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
Reach out and touch somebody's hand.
Come on, you want to touch thehand of the capitalists, you
want to touch the hand of thosethat are selling poison through
our music and our entertainmentand you want to coon and buffoon
and sell out for that of that.
But then, when it comes to usjust talking about ideology and
linking all of our ideologies,not as an individual, but

(59:09):
looking at your piece as a pieceto the puzzle and me looking at
my piece as a piece to thepuzzle, and I'm able to say hey,
I ain't going to buck againstyou.
Let's see how this you know.
Let's see what adds up.
And I may not got the piecethat links with you, but if I
look in my life and I see that Ihave friendships of all walks
of life, reading my problem book, I'm able to say hold on, let

(59:33):
me go ahead and go into mynetwork.
so we're talking about making anetwork and if you come in here
being divisive, trying to getyour sense of dissension, you're
not welcome, you're not welcome, you're not welcome, and I
agree with the principles ofwhat the Black Roundtable
represents with its diplomacy.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
We do need that, and I'm all about peace and love.
But you know what Brothers likeyou that came up here with that
ignorant comment are the onesthat got.
X taken out, or the ones who areprobably behind the death of
the father of the 5% nation,because it's always crabbing a
book and you know what?
Who got this Eileen's taken out?
I'm all about peace, butbrothers like that you have to

(01:00:12):
be dealt with.
I'm sorry to put it like that,Cause those are threats.
It's always going to be athreat.
Amongst there's always a Judasand let me tell you it, Let me
tell you it's not the time ofplace.
We'll get dealt with.

Speaker 4 (01:00:23):
And we are not.
We are not denying thefoundational black American
identity.
We that's a reality, that's alineage.
We're not doing that.
That's not what we're doing.
What we're saying is that wewant to sit at a table where
there's black people from allwalks of life that can give you
different perspectives on thesame problem.
You see what I'm saying.

(01:00:44):
We're all dealing with the sameproblems, but we need multiple
perspectives on how to deal withit, on how this person dealt
with it over in Ghana, how thisperson dealt with it in Guyana,
because we're dealing with aninternational entity and you
can't deal with an internationalentity if you're thinking
you're a blockhead.
You're just thinking about yourblock.
That ain't gonna work.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
With that being said, my brothers, we about to wrap,
we about to be out of here.
Brothers, I appreciate y'all somuch.
Much.
Love and respect for y'all.
All of you guys are great, youknow, very insightful,
knowledgeable and firm brothers.
Man, nothing but peace and loveto the black round table.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
Peace and love y'all check out the way omawali's
books.
I'm gonna say that check outthe way omawali's book.
We do more than just talking.
You're talking to people whoactually know each other, who
actually did initiativestogether.
You know, ain't no jokes, youknow, and we don't want no
problems either, but if it is,we're gonna put a solution to it

(01:01:42):
and we're gonna to solve it ina just and righteous manner good
and I'm going to say we are notgoing to let these hidden hands
sneak up and punch us andsucker punch us.

Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
We see the hidden hand, even if the hidden hand is
black of course it'll getchopped off.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
It'll get chopped off and people'll get chopped off.
People don't forget to comment,like, share, subscribe.
We're all about peace and lovehere.
Black Roundtable is for thefuture.
It's for the babies.
These brothers check them out.
They're doing a lot of greatwork and they got a lot of
information.
We got to have a part two to gothrough the rest of these
questions.
This is so educational and soformal for me and I appreciate

(01:02:23):
you guys.
Peace and love, man.

Speaker 4 (01:02:26):
Peace, Almighty.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Peace.

Speaker 4 (01:02:36):
Peace, thank you.
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