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Start with the flag, not the folklore. We dig into why territorial sovereignty sits at the center of nationality, jurisdiction, and every claim that follows—and why a personal declaration or a stack of papers won’t dissolve U.S. authority. With clear examples and evidentiary standards, we break down how conquest, cession treaties, and the law of succession moved sovereignty over this land, and how that shift legally bound inhabitants through acquisition of nationality by subjugation.

Together we unpack the Sankofa framework: consanguinity and culture endure, but political and legal force only return when sovereignty is restored. That’s why a temple-issued card is culturally meaningful yet not a passport, why a court in a foreign system can’t confer Moorish nationality, and why “nation within a nation” requires a treaty, territory, and operating institutions. We distinguish citizen (domestic) from national (foreign context), walk through the limits of Article III claims about consular courts, and show how passports and consular jurisdiction derive from treaties and legislation, not social media templates.

We also address myths around birth certificates, statelessness, and “status correction,” and explain why expatriation is the wrong tool—reversion to sovereignty is the right process for reviving statehood and independence. If a flag embodies sovereignty, unity, territoriality, and diplomatic presence, the task ahead is to rebuild the institutions that make those elements real. No parroting, no shortcuts—just foundations that can stand before international jurists and genuine governance.

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SPEAKER_03 (00:10):
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It's Ron Brown LMT, the People'sFitness Professional, Reporting
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SPEAKER_01 (00:30):
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SPEAKER_00 (01:13):
Right.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13):
Peace, peace.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16):
Part two to addressing the misconceptions at
large within the Moorishmovement using evidentiary
standards.
This is the uh the octopus ofterritorial sovereignty.
The topic is territorialsovereignty.
Territorial sovereignty is thehead of the octopus.

(01:38):
Elements of telet of territorialsovereignty are acquisition of
territory, loss of sovereignty,land boundary cession treaties,
territorial jurisdiction, law ofsuccession, change of
sovereignty of a people and theUnited States Constitution,
acquisition of nationalitythrough subjugation and cession,

(02:00):
change of sovereignty and itseffects of the nationality of
the inhabitants.

SPEAKER_02 (02:06):
And these these are these are international law
principles as uh territorialsovereignty is the primary uh
core principle that are that areinterconnected with these these
these other principles that wethat that affect us as a as a
people that that we have toaddress.

(02:28):
So this is um, I had Israel dothis, and then then he uh was in
black and white and did in acolor so that we can give you
know the people's uh a snapshotof these international law
principles that affect us asdealing with our conquest
matters, you know.
So this is um, we just want togive to people.

(02:51):
We've actually done a lesson onthis, uh, on uh was a magnet
crystal pyramid, uh, then was onanother platform.
And so we're gonna be we'll dothis on this platform too.
Um, uh Ron, we're gonnadefinitely need two hours for
this one.
Let me do this one, all right?
So usually let us know when youwant us to do this this
particular lesson.

SPEAKER_03 (03:13):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (03:16):
All right, next we have the Sankofa bird.
Sankofa bird is a symbol, is acultural symbol for of Ghana,
and it means to look back andget uh look back and correct
what was wrong, or give back,look back and get what was left
uh behind.
And we have the Sankofa birdstanding on nationality.

(03:39):
Nationality is interrelated tothe following principles.
So these are elements ofnationality at the top, national
sovereignty to the left,self-determination,
self-governance, nationalconsciousness, national
self-consciousness, nationalpride, national culture,
national character.

(03:59):
And on the right side, we havesovereign identity of the state,
the state's identity,constitutional identity,
constitutional name, nationalname, national identity, and
constitutional self-governance.
And also the Sankofa bird, asyou see, has a fair zone, uh a

(04:20):
Moorish cultural attire, and uhlooking back to get the Moorish
nationality, which was leftbehind and forgotten.
Alright.
On the left side we havenational self-consciousness,

(04:44):
national consciousness, nationalpride, national culture,
national character, nationalcoat of arms, national seal,
national flag, self-governance.
On the right side, nationalsovereignty, constitutional
self-governance, constitutionalname, diplomatic protection,

(05:04):
treaty protection, consularrelations, self-determination,
national name, and nationalidentity.
To the far left, we have theconsanguineus aspect of

(05:26):
nationality.
Consanguinity, ancestry,parentage, descent, genealogy,
pedigree, lineage.
Then we have the social culturalaspect of nationality.
Language, dress, hairdress,ceremonies, holidays, rituals,

(05:49):
festivals, dance.
Then we have the politicalframework of nationality.
Involves defining the nationalidentity of the people, the
constitution, the political, thepeople of.
The political phrase, a term thepeople of.

(06:14):
To the far right, we have legalframework of nationality.
Involves the creation ofnationality laws and the
execution of the nationalitylaws.
Four uh, four primary elementsof nationality and
internationality.
Legal bond, rights and duties.

SPEAKER_02 (06:35):
And international and international law.

SPEAKER_00 (06:45):
Legal bond, rights and duties, states jurisdiction,
and diplomatic protection.

SPEAKER_02 (06:56):
All right, so here the the quote, this the
consequences aspect ofnationality and the social
cultural aspect of nationalityare protected within the
political and legal framework ofnationality.
Sovereignty is the legal andpolitical framework that

(07:18):
recognizes, institutionalizes,and formalizes the nationality
of the people.
When the sovereignty is lost,the national, the national, the
political and legal frameworkfor a nation's nationality is
also lost or dormant.
So therefore, it doesn't havethe legal force anymore.

(07:43):
Meaning that I am German.
So it doesn't mean that Germanhas a legal bond to Germany.

(08:03):
Why?
Because the sovereignty is lost.
One cannot have a legal bond toa state whose sovereignty is
lost.
So, but the the course, theconsequences aspect is there,
but the protection is lost.
As I said before, the the theconsequences aspect and the
social culture aspect isprotected within the political

(08:24):
and legal framework.
For example, you the thesynagogue, synagogue's
constitution.
That means that it's being thelanguage that's being protected
within the synagogue's nationalconstitution.

(08:44):
That's the political framework.
And then you would havelegislation, national holidays,
national dress, and so forth.
So through it's so now it'sprotected through the legal
framework, through the creationof laws that protect the culture
of the people.
But when the sovereignty islost, the protection is lost.

(09:06):
So our Moorish nationality,because our sovereignty has been
lost and yet to be restored, ourMoorish nationality does not
have the legal and politicalforce because the sovereignty is
lost.
So it doesn't mean that we havea legal bond to Morocco.
Why?
Because the sovereignty has beenlost and yet to be restored.

(09:30):
And so Jouali, 112 years ago,laid the footprint to restore
our legal bond, our politicaland legal frameworks of our
Moors nationality.
Jouali, what he did, what he didwhen he displayed the Moors

(09:54):
flag, the elements of a flag,sovereignty, national identity,
territoriality, diplomaticpresence.
So Jwali did express sovereigntywhen he what?
Reintroduced us to our mother,the Moors flag.
Because embodied in the Moorsflag is the Moors nationality,

(10:21):
the Moors sovereignty, thepre-existing Moors national
unity, pre-existingterritoriality.
Embodied in the all four ofthese columns are embodied in
the Moors flag.
So we have she's dormant now.
Our sovereignty is dormant.
She can't protect us now, butDuali laid the framework, he

(10:44):
laid the footprints to restorethe protection.
It's not, has yet to be restoreddue to elements of people not
coming to understand what heactually did.
But you know, it's been saidthat Juwali did not say
sovereignty.
That may be true, but when hedisplayed what he did, I'm
talking about the act, the actof displaying the Moore's flag

(11:10):
is just an expression of umrestoring a people's sovereignty
because the flag representssovereignty.
Like how would one could say, Imean, one says because they lack
knowledge.
That's my bad.
One says because they lackknowledge.
So that's how.
The how that one says that Dualithen talks sovereignty is

(11:33):
because they lack knowledge ofwhat a flag is.
That's all that is.
A German flag represents Germansovereignty, Chinese flag,
Chinese sovereignty, Russianflag, Russian sovereignty, more
flag, more sovereignty.
In this case, our pre-existing,but it's still more sovereignty.
So once they come to understandthe elements of a flag,

(11:56):
sovereignty, national unity,territoriality, international
diplomatic protection,diplomatic presence, that's all
that is.
So it's still a lack of study.
That's how they come to say.
Because anyone who understandsany any jurist, any
international jurist, anyinternational law professor, any

(12:17):
ambassador, any any councilgeneral, and any um uh uh uh
counsel, any president, anyprime minister, they know what I
know.
They know what a flag is.
So if you say, well, and youshow them the flag, well, this
Juali, you know, 112 years ago,you know, he went to introduce

(12:38):
us to our flag, but he didn'ttalk sovereignty.
They're gonna they're gonna lookat the they're gonna look at you
like you're a fool.
How are you gonna say that Jualididn't talk sovereignty when he
displayed the flag?
It doesn't go.
I mean, what it is that you lackknowledge, that's all that is.
I'm not insulting anybody, I'mnot insulting, you lack
knowledge.

(12:59):
That's all that is.
All right, we continue.

SPEAKER_00 (13:15):
Misconception at large.
Once you claim your Moorishnationality, you cease to be a
United States citizen.

SPEAKER_02 (14:03):
All right, so once you claim your Moorish
nationality, you cease to be aUnited States citizen.
All right.
Um, this is why we show theoctopus.
The octopus.
United States territorialsovereignty, as you saw, that
was at the head of the octopus.

(14:24):
Territory sovereignty is a coreprinciple in international law.
United States has territorialsovereignty over our land.
France transferred, Franceconquered our land and surveyed
our land under Louis XIV,Louisiana territory.

(14:46):
France transferred Frenchterritorial sovereignty to the
United States through the 1818or Louisiana Purchase Treaty in
1803.
United States of Mexico, whichwas Spain's territorial
sovereignty and transferred tothe United States of Mexico.
United States of Mexicotransferred Mexican territorial

(15:07):
sovereignty to the United Statesthrough the Guadalupe Peace
Treaty in 1854.
Spain transferred Spanishterritorial sovereignty to the
United States over East Floridaand West Florida through the
1818 treaty.
Great Britain transferredterritory sovereignty through

(15:28):
the through the 13th to therespective 13 states along the
Atlantic Sea Coast in the 17article through Article I of the
1783 Defender Peace Treatybetween Great Britain and the
United States.
Here's what Tadic Majesty,that's which was King George III
at the time, relinquished,acknowledged, reckonled the

(15:49):
United States viz, viz.
all 13, viz.
V-I-Z means Latin for namely,all 13 and name to be free,
sovereign, and independentstates as he treats with them.
So he and relinquishes.
So King George III isrelinquishing the territory to
each of the 13 statesrespectively.
That's how the United Statesgained territorial sovereignty.

(16:10):
And as though one of theelements of territory
sovereignty is not only do they,not only the state, the
secession state gains theterritory gains gains
jurisdiction or control overdefined the transfer territory,
but also over the inhabitants.

(16:33):
So now you have there's aprocess.
United States forced us.
The process of a state forcing apeople of a foreign state,
meaning the conquering state,forcing a pop conquered
population of a state thatthey're subjugating, is known in

(16:54):
international law as acquisitionof nationality due subjugation,
which means that United States,we would forced us into their
legal system and placed us intoa new citizenship framework.
You declaring who you are, I'm amore doesn't remove the

(17:16):
subjugation.
You having more paperworkdoesn't remove the United States
subjugation over you, ourpeople.
Why?
So you have a legal bond now.
So so um, yeah.
Um I'm no longer a United,you're so that means I'm no

(17:36):
longer United States citizen,which means that you're no
longer in this legal system ofthe United States.
Yes, you are.

(18:23):
So once again, the our Moorishnationality does not have the
political and legal force as theGerman nationality, French
nationality, Senegalesenationality, Russian
nationality, Iraqi nationality.
Why?
One, their sovereignty isintact, our sovereignty has yet
to be restored.

unknown (18:43):
Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 (18:44):
I understand this is it's because it's wrestling
against the misconceptions.
As I'm speaking, themisconceptions are taking
precedence in your mind.
I got you.
The misconceptions.
So I gotta, and it's gonna takesome time, all right?
You know, because you've beentaught that it does, that this
process, not knowing that wehave to restore our mother.

(19:06):
Our mother has yet to berestored.
Our mother is still in thehospital, she's in a coma.
She's I mean that oursovereignty is still lost.
We have to revive her so that wecan what?
Come under back under herprotection.
I mean, Ron, as I said to youand Mike, as I said to you

(19:30):
before, is that we have to raisethe level of our people so that
we can resonate withinternational, international law
professors, we can resonate withinternational law uh
international law jurists, wecan resonate with you know uh
councils and consul generals andambassadors.
I want to resonate with them.

(19:51):
I want to prepare the people, Iwant to elevate the people to be
able to dance with them.
That should be our aim.
We need the we mean we'redeveloping a curriculum so that
we can resonate, we can raisethe level of this Moorish
movement, the informational baselevel.

(20:14):
It's been too low.
It's in quicksand.
You cannot restore, rebuild,re-establish reversion to
sovereignty and quicksand, meanmisconceptions upon
misconceptions.
We can move, we can move on.

SPEAKER_00 (20:41):
Another misconception at large.
All right.

SPEAKER_02 (20:58):
This is uh the the United States continuing their
redefining and reclassifying usthat France and Spain and
Portugal and Great Britain didby redefining and classifying
our people as black, nickelcolor.
We are Moors by consequentity,nothing changes that.

(21:19):
That's your blood, that's yourancestry.
But the you say to correct thedehumanize and dehumanize and
the subjugation status of nickelcolor, black, all that would
mean, all that means is thatthat you are subjugated.
You're still meaning saying ifyou have you put on record in

(21:43):
the United States courts, solet's let's deal with the power,
let's deal with jurisdictionnow.
United States courts don't havethe authority to address matters
dealing with Moors nationality.
That deals with that's thatpower is invested in the cotton
more and an organized governmentstructure.

(22:04):
That's more sovereignty.
So you so all right, so whatdoes it mean in international
law?
What does it mean ininternational law?
All right, so the so the Frenchcourts, the French courts, so
Chinese, Chinese nationals aregoing to French courts to have

(22:29):
the French courts, you know,decide on their nationality or
recognize their nationality.
The French courts don't havethat power.
So, but what does it what wouldit mean in international law?
You're going to a foreign powerthat's still subjugation.

(22:52):
You you you're asking a foreignpower, foreign United States
courts, foreign power foreign tothe United States, going into
the United States court anddeclare their Moorish
nationality.
You're declaring your Moorishnationality in United States
courts.

(23:14):
Chinese are declaring theirChinese nationality in French
courts.
What does that mean?
What does that act mean ininternational law for foreign
power?
Our mother has that power.

(23:35):
That's more sovereignty.
You're talking about the UnitedStates courts exercising more
sovereignty.
So we just it's just like onceagain, it's just a lack of
knowledge.
What Juali did, and one of theelements of reversion to

(23:58):
sovereignty is restoring a morea conscious Moorish population.
So the Moorish, the Moorishnationality card that is given
at the that more science templesgive, that doesn't, that
doesn't, once again, it doesn'thave the the political and legal
force of more of nationalitybecause our sovereignty has been

(24:23):
lost.
But it is an it is an a key, isan element, a key element.
That that identification card isa key element for reversion of
sovereignty.
What it means is that it's andkeeping in and developing a
national registry, becauseyou're talking about you have to
have you develop a nationalregistry of conscious moors.

(24:44):
And so those who are carryingthe card, you know, are those
who are conscious and belong tothat body positive.
It's an element of reversion tosovereignty, but it doesn't have
the political and legal force ofnationality because the
sovereignty is had to yet to berestored.
So it just serves as an element,you know, it's important now.

(25:07):
I'm not minimizing importance.
I'm just wanting that it doesn'thave the political and legal
force of nationality.

SPEAKER_03 (25:14):
Okay, it doesn't have the political and legal
force of nationality.
Do you I would say it's becausethere's not enough conscious
Moors who are actively trying torestore the national uh the uh
nationality.

SPEAKER_02 (25:30):
That means exactly.
I mean the mean with it thebecause is yes, the because is
the sovereignty has yet to berestored.
That's the the because would bethe sovereignty has yet to be
restored.
And then you say your so the thereason why the sovereignty is
yet to be restored is what youjust said.

unknown (25:45):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (25:46):
That's that's you just gave the reason why the
sovereignty has yet to berestored.

SPEAKER_03 (25:50):
Right, right.

SPEAKER_02 (25:51):
So how do we that's not that's not why this doesn't
have that's not why it doesn'thave the legal and political
force, it doesn't have the uhMorris nationality doesn't have
the legal and political forcebecause the sovereignty has yet
to be restored.
The reason why the sovereigntyhas to be restored is what you
it's what you said.

unknown (26:08):
Right.

SPEAKER_02 (26:08):
So talk about the chain, they're talking about the
chain of logic and the chain oflogic.

SPEAKER_03 (26:14):
Right.
So now how do we get everyone onthe same page?
That's the biggest problem.
You you're doing it, you're partof doing it.

SPEAKER_02 (26:21):
You're you're part of doing it.
New York, New York.
I'm I just try to, uh as I know,I just try to keep it, I try to
try to keep it practical.
You are part of doing it.
Your platform, you're not youjust one of many, but I'm saying
you're this is the how.
You mean having us on, clearingup this, you know, you doing you

(26:45):
having other people on, but wehave to, we they need to have
this knowledge though.
The others that are on need tohave this knowledge, but I'm
saying you're doing it, Ron.
You're part of doing it.
Yeah, the fact that you calledme six months ago.
I'm I'm that I'm just lettingyou know that you're part of
doing it.

SPEAKER_00 (27:04):
Being active, keeping the keeping the torch
lit.

SPEAKER_02 (27:07):
Yeah, exactly.
I'm I don't, I mean, I'm justtrying to make it as plain
because as opposed to making itall that, because it ain't all
that.
It's just you being active andyou working with us and others.
Now we gotta we gotta get theothers that's on this platform
to be in working together withproper concepts.
We have other connections.
This ain't no more.
We on we we have a largernetwork, we have a network of

(27:29):
other conscious and unconsciousboards, educational umbrella of
proper concepts.

SPEAKER_00 (27:35):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 (27:38):
That's what's needed.
I try to make it practical, bro.
Well, because it is just that.
Because if you try to whathappen, what happened, Ron?
If you try to make it socomplicated, then they end up
not doing anything.
Yeah, you know, oh that's somuch, that's too much.
You know what I mean?
No, you know, you don't want to,no, no, no, no, you know, just

(28:01):
kiss it.
You want to kiss it.
And I I know that fromexperience.
I know that from teaching.
I know that from experience ofwhat I'm saying to be true.
You gotta keep it, you gottakeep it simple.
You gotta give them like asimple task, you know.

(28:21):
Uh, yeah, take this stick andthen move it to this table.
You know what I mean?
And you say, I'm just I know Imay it may sound overs I'm
oversimplifying, but I'm just tomake the point.
Take this stick and talk, takeit to this table.
So now, oh they now took thestick and put it on that table.
Now you give them another task.

(28:43):
That's that's all I'm saying.
I just try to keep it, justtrying to make it, you know, so
you're part of it, of helping.
You and we're working together,Ron.
And we're connected with othernetworks.
That will you part of thenetwork, Ron.

(29:04):
And you have a network of what10, 20 that you bring on that
what uh that are part oforganizations.
Remember, and you're growing.
Look at what the I'm not lookingat the effect of you and Mike,
Micah having and how you'reincreasing, you know, with
Spotify and other net otheroutreach you, you know, your

(29:26):
networks you're connecting to.
You're doing it, brother.
I appreciate you.
You and my um Mikey.
We can go to the next one.

unknown (29:39):
All right.

SPEAKER_00 (29:41):
Another misconception at large,
individual citizens or nationalscan make a proclamation.

SPEAKER_02 (29:47):
That is a that is a big misconception.
That that that clearly meansthat they don't know the meaning
of proclamation.
They never looked up the word,they never looked up the word,
they heard it from somebodyelse, like a Paul Parrot.
They never looked the word upthemselves.
If they just simply look theword up on the on a um on a

(30:11):
computer that they hold everyday called a cell phone, just
google the word proclamation.
No, that's all.
I'm just trying to, I gotta doit like this, Israel.
Keep it simple, but hey, justGoogle the word proclamation.
You won't need to say Abdullahsaid, Israel said, Ron said

(30:32):
anything.
Just Google the wordproclamation, and you're gonna
see that it's gonna be a head ofstate, a mayor.
You know, uh a president, uh aking, it'll be a head of state,
not individual citizens.
Just Google the wordproclamation.

SPEAKER_03 (30:50):
A proclamation is an official public announcement,
often in the form of documentssigned by a government official,
like a oh government official,uh signed by office signed by a
government official, ain't thatsomething?

SPEAKER_02 (31:05):
It is a regular citizen, it's a government
official, and all we did wasjust look the word up.
Ain't that something?
Just by looking the word up,isn't that something?

SPEAKER_00 (31:19):
Yeah, so it's simple.

SPEAKER_02 (31:21):
That's this is why I can sing you say that it's not a
lot.
It's foundational.
What it is is that they havethey listen to somebody on
YouTube or Facebook or whateverit is, right?
They ain't looking the words upthemselves, or in reality.

(31:43):
Don't don't my brothers andsisters, don't view us as no
gods, please.
Don't view us, check us, factcheck us, don't view us.
We ain't no challenge us, yeah.
But do do you don't do your dealdo due diligence?

unknown (31:56):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (31:57):
So thank you, Ron.
But you know, we wanted thepeople to look it up.
But thank you, Ron.
Appreciate you.

SPEAKER_00 (32:10):
All right, another misconception at large.
Only a national can lean aperson, place, or a thing, not a
citizen.

SPEAKER_02 (32:18):
All right, this is one of the uh we dealt with this
two weeks ago, and and lookingat national and citizen from a
universal perspective.
All right, so we have so we'llwe'll start with let me start
with citizen.
From a from a universalperspective, citizen is
domestic.
The mock the the Bonaki, theBonake citizen, Russian citizen,

(32:42):
German citizen.
So I the example I gave, whereaswhereas national is is has a
broader meaning in theinternational arena.
So for let me give an example.
A Russian citizen in Russiawould not be classified as a

(33:03):
Russian national in Russia.
A Russian in China will beclassified as a Russian
national.
We got they won't say Russiancitizens, we got Russian, we
got, we don't, they won't sayRussian citizens, and some may
say that, but Russian is butit's pro is but it's appropriate

(33:24):
because the Russian national hasa broader, I'm explaining,
Russian nationals in China,Russian citizens in Russia.
I'm giving the application.
German nationals in France,German citizens in Germany.

(33:48):
Citizen is domestic.
That's why you wouldn't, it'sdomestic.
So you wouldn't say what uhGerman citizens in France,
because the citizen is domestic,it's German nationals.
Nationals not nationals, notdomestic.
That's all nationals notdomestic, citizen is domestic.

(34:11):
Look it up, look it upthemselves.
Oh, they are they going by theEuropean freedman group stuff.
I'm going, I'm talkinginternational law.
I'm talking governmentstructure.
I'm talking governmentstructured sovereignty.
I'm talking, yeah, I'm comingfrom that that these European
freedmen goes ain't never teachon, never teach on, never teach
on.

(34:34):
Now look how fundamental thisis.
Not even all that.
It's a lot of the misconceptionsfollowing the European Freeman
groups.
They don't teach nationality,they don't teach sovereignty,
they don't teach anything thatwe've taught on this platform,

(34:55):
none.

SPEAKER_00 (35:05):
Misconception at large.
The current war we are in isnationals versus citizens.

SPEAKER_02 (35:12):
All right, so and the reason why Israel phrasing,
even though it would be the sameanswer for, but this is a
misconception, though.
So he has to he has to lay outall the misconceptions, which he
did.
So the current war.
So once again, citizen isdomestic.
National is finds up a broadermeaning in international arena.

(35:35):
It's not a versus, it's thatcitizen is domestic.
You're talking jurisdictionhere.
Citizens domestic, national iswould be used in a a foreign, so
so national, foreign, citizen,domestic.
As I said before, you would notuse citizen for a Chinese,

(36:00):
Chinese national in France.
They would classify it asChinese nationals in France.
You would not say Chinesenationals, you would not
classify Chinese who are inChina as Chinese nationals.
So it's not a versus it's justunderstanding that citizen is

(36:24):
domestic, and national refers tothat which is if they're
foreign.
It has a much broader meaning inthe international arena.
Just want to just make it plain,keep it simple.

SPEAKER_00 (36:37):
Proper concepts.
Another misconception at large.
Big one.
Moors do not need a driver'slicense to navigate an
automobile on the roadway unlessthey are conducting business.
Driving.

SPEAKER_02 (36:57):
So I know I know uh my 33 years of being Moore's
conscious and involvement, thishas been a lot of time,
resources have been uh in this.
I'm gonna address it though, butuh in in this area, not
community outreach.

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I've seen individual Moors whospent a lot of time in this, not
community outreach now.
They don't care a jack about nocommunity outreach.
So so that's addressed.
Moors need a driver's license tonavigate.
Moors do not need Moors do notneed a driver's license to

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navigate an autobill, bill, ballbill on the road roadways unless
they are conducting all right,business.
All right, so you have let methere's conscious Moors who and
they are right that we aredriving, traveling on our
ancestors' roads, that they'recorrect, but let's go back to

(38:03):
the octopus.
Let's go back to octopus.
Go back to it, you not let's goback to the octopus.
All right, you see theirterritorial sovereignty?
Well, United States gained titleover our land as the because a
treaty, the French treaty, theLouisiana Purchase Treaty, with

(38:23):
the survey, the the uh underLouis XIV, he commissioned
surveyors to survey out theboundaries of the conquest.
So when the treaty wastransferred, when territorial
sovereignty was transferred tothe United States through the
Louisiana Purchase Treaty, aswell as the survey title or

(38:46):
survey.
So United States gainedterritorial sovereignty.
So yes, this is our ancestralstate roads, but we have United
States has through not throughconquest on the United States
part, United States gainedgained territory sovereignty
from the conquering power ofFrance and Spain and Great

(39:07):
Britain.

unknown (39:08):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (39:10):
So yes, this is our land, but we don't have we've
lost our sovereignty.
This this is why on the maps,this is why on the maps.
It reads, all right, and um noone in no one in the year 1662
was saying United States.
I was I was born in the UnitedStates, I'm from the United
States, I'm going to UnitedStates, I live in the United

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States.
No one in the world was sayingthat in 1662.
Why not?
All right, we got it.
In 1662, United States didn'tdidn't exist.
Yeah, we have a we have aquestion.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (39:49):
Do Moors have to expatriate expatriate uh US
citizenship in order to becomeMoors natural national.

SPEAKER_02 (39:59):
No, let me explain.
No, expatriate.
Let's let me explain.
So once again, it's just lookingthe words up.
It's expatriate, that's not theproper application for us.
Which means expatriate meansthat you're going back to your

(40:23):
sort a sovereignty which isalready intact.
Like, how you gonna repatriateto Morocco when she is the
sovereignty is not intact?
That's not the properapplication.
The proper application isreversion to sovereignty.

(40:47):
Reversion to sovereignty is aninternational legal process by
which a people who lost theirsovereignty, process of
regaining their sovereignty andrestore and reviving their
statehood and independence.
That's the proper application,not expatriate, because our

(41:08):
sovereignty has been lost.
So when you're talking aboutloss of sovereignty, expatriate
is not the proper application oflaw, it's reversion to
sovereignty.
So it's giving them the properapplication, reversion to
sovereignty based on ourcondition.
So what is so what what is thecondition?

(41:30):
What is the status?
All right, so expatriate wouldall right, so let's continue
with expatriate.
That that that would mean, allright, so you have a a a German,
a German citizen in Germany, allright, so comes over to say

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United States uh jurisdictionand uh qualifies for citizenship
through number of years ofresidency and so forth.
And so therefore, they gothrough the United States that
they've become a naturalizedcitizen, which means they
renounce their allegiance, theyrenounce their allegiance to
Germany and what uh pledgeallegiance to the United States.

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They want to expatriate.
Remember, Germany's Germany'ssovereignty is still intact.
So they want to patriate toGermany, which they would have
to file, you know, there's aprocess, process going through
the State Department, all right,fill out paperwork, um, involved

(42:34):
with that.
You'll just you look that up,the process.
And I so they but thesovereignty is still intact.
But our sovereignty is not.
So that would not be the properapplication.
I don't anything you need toadd, want to add to that,
Israel?
I just want to make sure I'm aclear cut with this.

(42:54):
It's just understanding theproper application, what what
what what our status is, whatour status is, how did we how
did we become citizens, or howwere we brought into the legal
framework of the United States?
What was our status prior tothat?
What was our status prior tothat?
All right, so Duali pointdisplaying the Morse flag

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indicates that we were of apre-existing state.
We believe that we belong to astate foreign to the United
States.
Why don't we no longer thatwe're not what?
Governing, being governed, youknow, governing under that Morse
flag anymore, legislating, youknow, uh executing laws, Moore's

(43:38):
passports, Moors embassies, youknow, Moorish consulates, you
know, Moors ambassadors, Moore'sconsulate generals, where where
that was the once the case.
Why don't we function like thatnow?
Because we lost our sovereigntydue to Spanish, Portuguese,
French, Dutch, Argonne, Castile,uh England conquest and

(43:59):
colonization and subjugation.
That was our that was our that'sour original status.
We lost our sovereignty.
We've been France conquered,France, we was under subjugation
of France and England, and thatso the United States had
maintained our subjugation forover 200 years.
The United States forced us intotheir legal system under the

(44:20):
acquisition of national duesubjugation and placed us into a
new citizen framework.
To reverse that, to reverse thatact of subjugation, Jouali began
the process 112 years ago.
It has yet to be completed.
That is known as reversion ofsovereignty.
Jwali displaying the Moore'sflag, restoring the uh restoring
our Morse national consciousnessto our Moore's flag, our Morse

(44:42):
fast, our Morse turban, ourMorse Bay and eel, our more uh
regalia, more scimitar.
So now we can look at theEuropean Schreiners.
Oh man, these EuropeanSchweiners and European mystics,
man, they they they renamed andreclassified our Morse fans as
the Schwartz fans.

(45:02):
Because we're now what?
We're now what Morse conscious,right?
Could you Ali set the stage towe get to restore our Morse
consciousness?
Yet we have not restored ourMorse sovereignty, though he
laid the footprint, and that'sbecause what Ron said.
Because of what Ron said earlieris that because you don't
because of those who are inthose different orders don't
lack this knowledge.

(45:31):
I'm just trying to make itplain.
It ain't all that is that theylack the knowledge of these
words and the process andapplication of the law.
We go to the next one.

SPEAKER_00 (45:55):
All right, another misconception at large
Americans are recognized asgovernment.
All right.

SPEAKER_03 (46:03):
So I've never heard that.

SPEAKER_02 (46:06):
Moorish Americans are recognized, I've heard it as
government.
So we look, we we will look atwhat China's a government,
France is a government, Iraq's agovernment, German's a
government.
So Moorish Americans arerecognized as government.

(46:27):
Well that well, Moorish Americanis not the name of a governing
entity.
So, and then you say government,you know, that that would mean
that they are operating,legislating, executing, and have
judicial power.
They have Moorish judicialpower, Moorish executive power.

(46:51):
They're not that that means theyhave a defined territory.
They're not filed within, youknow, so let's so let's look at
this.
They're not filed, you know, ourauthority.
That our authority is ourpre-existing Moorish
sovereignty.
Our authority is is isinherited, not in Illinois.

(47:14):
Our authority is not in IllinoisHeritage Vine Statute.
Our authority is not in UnitedStates codes, our authority is
not vested in United Statesstatutes, our authority is not
invested, not vested in UnitedStates Constitution.
Our authority is not vested inthe Kentucky State Constitution.
Our authority is not invested inKentucky State Constitution

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laws, our authority is notinvested in Illinois state
constitution, our authority isnot invested in Hurd's Hermitary
by statute.
Our authority is not vested inany religious corporation act
from Illinois.
That's not our authority.
You said as a as a government,you remember so we're talking
self-government, self-authority,self-rule, self-determination.

(48:04):
So if they show you somethingthat reads our authority from
Illinois, that's all I need tosee.
That's that's I'm I'm notlooking at the the the evidence
that there is not.

(48:25):
Does Germany have to file withBurkino Fossil to function as a
government?
Like Germany has to filepaperwork.
Yeah, yeah, yo Germany, yo, yo,Ron, Germany filed paperwork.
Did you know, Ron, that Germanyfiled some paperwork and Burkino
Faso, you know, so they can berecognized as a government.

(48:47):
You didn't know that?
You didn't know that Germanyfiled some Germany, don't tell a
jerk told a German Germany'susing Germany using it, Germany
is using French laws.
Germany's using French laws.
According to French laws,Germany, German government,
according to French laws, we'rerecognized as a government.

(49:19):
I'ma continue saying this, mybrothers and sisters.
It's not a lot, it's themisconceptions.
You're in quicksand.
You're not grounded infoundational knowledge,
foundational principles, corefoundational principles.

(49:40):
How do I know this?
How am I gonna dance and answerthese and break this?
Because of going, I'm showingyou what foundational core
principles.
I think we nail that.
All right, thank you, Von, forthis uh extra time.
I greatly appreciate you,brother, you and Mikey.

SPEAKER_00 (50:05):
Moors can create a nation within a nation.
All right, this is my thingright here.

SPEAKER_02 (50:09):
All right, Moors can create a nation within a nation.
So see how I want y'all to see.
I'm gonna do this.
Just hear me out, y'all.
Nation, see, I'm doing thisnation within a nation.
All right, so what would thatlook like?
A nation within a nation.
So so that um, so Russia througha treaty uh is granting through

(50:35):
through a treaty, Russia is uhgoing to allow negotiate a
treaty with Germany and give adefy portion of Russia to
Germany, and Germany say nationwithin a nation.

(50:55):
You said nation within a nation.
That means within a nation'sborder with the preposition.
See what I'm doing.
Display follow me, y'all.
Follow me language, language,the preposition within.
I'm using grammar, my brothersand sisters.
Nation within a nation, within.

(51:15):
So let's follow me.
Let's visualize this.
We have a box.
We have a box.
I want y'all to place a smallerbox within a larger box.
That's a visual, that's followme.
And what that means, the the thepreposition within, we have a

(51:36):
red box.
We have the so we have the redbox, is the biggest, bigger,
bigger box.
We're gonna place the blue boxwithin the red box.
So you say the blue box iswithin the red box.
We're talking this.
This is grammar, it'sprepositions.

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Understanding prepositions, thisis spatial.
This is spatial prepositions.
Follow me, my brothers andsisters.
So the blue box is within thered box.
That means it's within theboundaries of the red box.
So that means that the red boxhas to give authority to

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negotiate a treaty for one thatred for the for the blue box to
be within the set up within theboundaries of the red box
government structure.
How would that be done?
Do a treaty.
That's to be done because you'retalking with the foreign state,
another so nation within anation that has to be done.

(52:42):
We're talking about within anation.
Wizard that wizards that existof filing paperwork in Illinois
does constitutes that.
Under the Hearns V by Statute ofIllinois, the Religious

(53:06):
Corporation Act of Illinois,Hearns vive Statute.
Illinois was was one of theIllinois was one of the five
states that was that was thatwas developed in the Northwest
Territory, governed by theNorthwest ordinance for a while
until they set up aconstitutional convention.

(53:28):
All right.
So they negotiated a treaty withthe United States, whereby you
remember the United States isexercising territorial
sovereignty.

(53:48):
So the United States gave them aportion.
I'm just saying it's that thesejust look at the principles.
So they now have self-governing,self-governing of power,
legislative, executive, judicialpower.
They can what set up embassies,set up embassies in France and

(54:11):
Germany and China, Bikino Fasoand Senegalese, Senegal?
They can send ambassadors.
So don't ask.
My thing is, once they say that,don't ask them.
Do this.
All what is the name?
What is the name of yourambassador in Russia?

(54:35):
What is the name of yourambassador in Germany?
Where is your embassy in Chinalocated?
Don't ask them that they setnothing up.
Just ask him.
As if they had.
Yes, and then that ask thequestion according to the
elements.

(54:57):
And that's gonna be no, no, no,no, no, no, no.
But the conscious boys can't dothis because they don't know the
fundamentals.
Once again, it's not a lot, it'sfundamentals, it's arithmetic.
It's arithmetic.
I mean found it's foundational.
When I say arithmetic, it'sfoundational.

(55:20):
Foundational to algebra.
Arithmetic is foundational toalgebra.
All right, we go to the nextone.

SPEAKER_00 (55:34):
Another misconception at large.
Our mothers sold us intosubjugation of the United States
by signing the birth certificateas the informant.

SPEAKER_02 (55:44):
That is not true.
I know that this has been goingaround for over about 50, 40,
50, 60, 70 years.
This is a misconception.
Right.
In international, let's go tointernational law.
Let's go back to the let's goback to the um the octopus.

(56:05):
To explain this, I gotta go tothe octopus.
All right, so we haveterritorial sovereignty, which
is a core principle ininternational law.
We see here acquisition ofterritory.
We have loss of sovereignty,land boundary cession treaties,
territorial jurisdiction, law ofsecession, change of sovereignty

(56:27):
of a people and the UnitedStates Constitution, acquisition
of nationality due sub duesubjugation and session.
We have change of sovereigntyand its effects on the
nationality of the inhabitants.
Oh, here we go.
Change of sovereignty and thisand its effects on the
nationality of the inhabitants,which means that a conquering

(56:49):
power, a conquering state hassubjugated a state.
So we have change, there's a sothere's a so that state loses
her sovereignty.
So you have a change ofsovereignty.
And what effects would that haveon the inhabitant nationality of

(57:10):
the inhabitants?
What one of the elements ofterritorial sovereignty is that
the conquering state candetermine the status of the
conquered people of theterritory that they conquered.
They didn't sign anything, theydidn't sign anything, they
didn't sign a lick of paperwork.

(57:38):
So that the answer lies inunderstanding the elements here
that's that it's in thetentacles of territorial
sovereignty.
You explain it using this, theseelements.
Nothing you sign.
That meaning that if you rescindall that today, yesterday, you

(58:00):
still subjugated on the UnitedStates because our sovereignty,
United States, our sovereigntyhas been lost.
Our mother, our mother is stillin the hospital, our protector,
our nourisher is in the hospitalin a coma.
We must waken our mother.
Juali began the process 112years ago to waken our mother

(58:25):
out of a coma.
It's because of why what Ronsaid 15 minutes ago that these
consumers lack this knowledge.
It's why it's taken so long andwe have not restored our more
sovereignty.
We lack this knowledge.
We are operating and functioningquicksand.

unknown (58:44):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (58:44):
Status correction.
Correct your status.
I don't hear anything.
Correct your status.
Your individual purpose visit.
Individual, individual stuff,individual.
I hear individual pot,individual pot, individual pot,
individual pot, individual pot,individual.

(59:06):
They never talk, no unity, theynever talk no community
outreach.
They never talk.
It's individual, individual.
I got mine, satisfied, birthcertificate.

SPEAKER_03 (59:16):
You know what I mean?
I'm gonna go to the questions inthe chat.
So uh does the Pan AmericanPrivate International Law Code
of 1928 give protections toMoorish Americans within the
Americas?

SPEAKER_02 (59:31):
Does the Pan American Private International
Law Code of 1928 give protectionto Moorish Americans within the
Americas?
All right, our mother, allright, just keep in mind again.
I'm gonna go back to this.
Our mother is in the hospital.

(59:51):
Our mother is our protector.
She can't protect us right nowbecause she has yet to be
awakened out of her over200-year period of a coma.
That's our protector.
I mean, that does the UnitedStates, United States has

(01:00:16):
jurisdiction over us.
United States has territorialsovereignty.
Because United States hasterritorial sovereignty that
they gain through treaties withFrance and Spain and Portugal,
United States, Mexico.
United States that gives UnitedStates under under international
law, subjugation and conquest,the right to govern the affairs

(01:00:38):
and also determine.
The status of the inhabitants.
We have to restore our mother.
Juali had it right.
Juali had it right.
They don't understand what hedid.
Duali didn't total sovereignty.

(01:00:59):
That means they don't understandwhat I said earlier at onset.
They don't understand that a matthat a flag embodies what?
A nation's sovereignty.
That is a grave misconception,right there.
Not with that lack of knowledge.
They're in leadership position.
We got people in leadershippositions who lack this
knowledge of what a flagrepresents.

(01:01:20):
I'm talking about what Jualidid.
You cannot, no one on thisplanet can challenge me on what
Juwali did display the mostflag.
That that is cannot, that'sirresputable.
He did display the most flag.
That is a fact fact.

SPEAKER_03 (01:01:40):
Okay, I want to, I want to, he's he's uh saying it
again.
Uh being that the Pan-Americanprivate international law code
of 1928 deals with nationalityand territorial sovereignty,
give protections to American, uhMoorish Americans within
America.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:58):
All right, let me let me say this again.
Because we lost our sovereignty,I on I understand, I understand
about the Declaration of theRights of the Child, Principle
Three, every child a right to aname and nationality.
I understand United NationsHuman Rights Proclamation 1948,
Article 15, Section 1, everyright, everyone has a right to a

(01:02:19):
name and nationality.
I'm clear on that.
But it's only when you're whenyou're talking about Moorish
nationality.
The Moorish nationality can onlybe defined and be under within a
Moorish political legalframework.

(01:02:43):
No international governing bodycan do that for us.
We're talking about Moorishnationality.
When I I didn't say nationality,I said Moorish nationality.
I didn't say French nationality,I didn't say you have a right to
a French nationality.
I didn't say French, I saidMoorish nationality.
Yes, now it doesn't all right.

(01:03:07):
Hear me out that what Von putup, the uh 1928 Pan-American
does not have power over Chinadefining Chinese nationality,
does not have power orjurisdiction over France

(01:03:31):
defining the French nationality.
It does not have jurisdictionover Russia defining Russian
nationality, nor does it havejurisdiction over defining
Moorish nationality.
Now we're talking, now we'retalking specific.

(01:03:56):
As nationality is the corefoundation of sovereignty.
So now, so now you're talkingnow because now you're talking,
we're talking the political.

(01:04:29):
That that can determine to tellthe French government to the how
to define the Frenchnationality.
Now what it does, now what itdoes now, because there are
international human rights laws.

(01:04:52):
So the French government doesnot have arbitrary power because
of the French internationalbecause of international law.
But now we're talking heredefining now.
We're talking defining theFrench nationality.
We're talking placing the Frenchnationality within the French
political legal framework.

(01:05:12):
No international instrument youcan show me can say can dictate
that to France or China, BurkinaFaso, Russia, Germany.
Because that's an indicatethat's a product of Russian
sovereignty, French sovereignty,German sovereignty.
We couldn't be no Bokanabisovereignty, syndicalist
sovereignty.

(01:05:37):
I understand that we're talkingMoorish nationality.
All right, I want to go.
You want to get a Germannationality?
That's fine.
A French nationality, that'sfine.
But you're talking Moorishnationality.
So a sovereignty that has notbeen restored.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:01):
Okay, did the Moors play a part of setting up this
government?

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:05):
You see talk that did the new name talking about
the United States government.
No.
Let me explain.
I said no.
That's that, and then I'm gonnagive my findings.
So did and we and we then weaddressed this in part one.

unknown (01:06:18):
Part one, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:19):
This was addressed in part one, so I don't know.
Should how much what do how manyslides we have?
Because we did address this umthoroughly.
Um we did address this Ron inpart one.
Okay, I mean, I don't want tobecause I don't want to spend a
whole lot of time doingsomething we've already done.
In fact, we did it by three orfour times, right?

(01:06:41):
Because it's like three or fourquestions, yeah, related
questions, right, uh, Israel?
Yeah.
That's related to that question,and we we addressed it uh
extensively in part one.

SPEAKER_04 (01:06:55):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:06:55):
Yeah, so we don't want to, because this is part
two, so we don't want to spend alot of time talking about what
we already addressed in partone.
I mean, I remember we addressedit extensively three or four
different times.
Now, if I had done it like youknow, just you know, maybe in
one 30 seconds, but it wasaddressed extensively three or
four times in part one.

(01:07:17):
Because I'd rather them go topart one so they can actually
see, you know, and then hear themore in more detail about it and
the findings that I that we thatwe laid out, you know, so we can
let's go to let's continue here.

unknown (01:07:30):
All right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:31):
So the question that's on the screen now,
brother Ryan, uh, is actuallythe next misconception that
we're gonna address.

SPEAKER_03 (01:07:37):
All right, cool.

SPEAKER_00 (01:07:38):
Misconception at large, more is our part and
parcel of the United States.

SPEAKER_02 (01:07:43):
All right, so we have part and parcel referring
to land, partial land, part ofthe United States.
Now, more is that we aresubjugated on the United States.
So if there, so if I mean, sothere is a part of that meaning

(01:08:07):
that the United States forced usinto their legal framework.
So I can't say that we're notpart of the United States.
The question is, how did webecome part of the United
States?
Through the international lawprocess known as acquisition of
national due subjugation.
What does that mean?
United States forced us, we werealready subjugated under the

(01:08:30):
United States.
United States forced us into thelegal system and through
legislation placed us into a newcitizenship framework that is
not United States laws, that isinternational law.
United States appliedinternational law of acquisition

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of nationality of subjugationmeans bringing a forcing a
conquered population into theirlegal system.
So we're part, I'm explainingthe part.
How did we become a part?
So, yes, part, yes, throughsubjugation, but not as we the

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people.
We are not we the people of theUnited States, we are not the
sovereign body of the UnitedStates Constitution.
We are not, we are not thenational sovereign body of the
United States within the UnitedStates Constitution.
We are the people of the land.
We are the original people ofthe land, but we are not the

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people of the United States.
Hear me out.
United States is not the land.
All right, coming out.
We are the people of the landand not the people of the United
States.
Don't they mean the same thing?
No, they don't.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
But go back to the go back tothe octopus.

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Let's go back to the octopus.
Oh no, no, no, no.
We're talking about the originalpeople of the land.
The people of the United States.
All right.
So how did the United Statesgain become the use in a

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geographical sense?
Remember, no one, go back, let'sgo back in.
In in 1662, no one was saying,born in the United States, going
to the United States, I'm fromthe United States, I live in the
United States, I'm in the UnitedStates.
No one in the world was sayingthat in 1662.
United States had not beenformed.

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How did that come?
What is the international lawprocess by which people have
come to say, born in the UnitedStates, I'm in the United
States, I'm from the UnitedStates, I live in the United
States.
What if the international law,if we're going to be looking at
it right now, international lawprocessing?
What is that?
All right, let's go tointernational law.
So I said before, Franceconquered, France surveyed, do

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conquest, all right, under LouisXIV, named the the conquered,
the survey land of land namedthe survey, conquered survey
moorish land, Louisianaterritory.
France, France ceded to Spain in1662 through the Treaty of
Fontaineu.
So now you say, I'm I'm inSpain.

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So 1763, people say, I'm inSpain.
Because what France cedes what?
Territorial sovereignty to Spainthrough the Treaty of Fontaineu.
All right.
So Spain retrofeed cedes it tothe United States, to France in
1801.
France sells it and thereforecedes the title through the

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Louisiana Purchase.
You have Great Britain.
Great Britain in 1783.
Article 1.
His Patenti Majesty recognizesthe United States to be the
United States bids all 13 andnames to be free, sovereign, and
independent states that hetreats with them and he
relinquishes to all the 13debates respectively.

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So now you have uh so now that'sthere's an there's a new map,
1784 map, United States.
Along the Atlanta Seaco, yousaid you said United States,
right?
But it uh but a 1760 map saysGreat Britain, 1770, 1770 map,
Great Britain, but 1784 map,United States, 17, 17, 17, 8, 17

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um 81 map, it says Spain orFrance.
But 1784 map, 1704 map, where itsays what it once says France,
New France, New England'sterritory, and now says United
States in 1784.
I mean 1704.
United, so now because of theterritorial sovereignty

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transfer, the United States isused in a geographical sense.
But that doesn't, but that's sothat's how the United States
acquired the territory.
But we are the people of theland.

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We are not, we the people of theUnited States.
We are not the we are not thenational body, the sovereign
body within the United StatesConstitution.
We are not the people of theUnited States.
We are the we are the originalautochthonous native Aboriginal
people of the land.

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Once again, misconceptions.
And I want to thank Israel fordeciding to do this lesson and
laying out these misconceptions.

SPEAKER_00 (01:14:07):
So another misconception at large, Moors
can create their own passport.
All right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:12):
At large, that means Moors don't understand
government.
Moors don't understandsovereign.
This is the whole point.
All right, so here we go.
Passport.
All right.
Done through legislation.
French passport, Germanpassport, Russian passport,
German passport.
Done through German let Germanpassport is what?

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Through legislation.
All right.
So the German passport iscontrol owned by Germany, right?
And and how the passport isissued, termination date, that's
done through German, German,German parliament.
So outside of we've regainingour sovereignty, what passport
you creating?

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Passport?
Hold on.
So you got so you're gonna whata Morse passport?
You got a Morse passport?
You in Russia with a Morsepassport?
You in you in Germany with aMorse passport?
You in France with a Morsepassport?
You in Bikino Fossil with aMorse passport?
You in Senegalese with a Morsepassport?

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You haven't reverse me havingrecovered Lost Morse
sovereignty.
We use we set up embassies andportalists and send ambassadors,
and they don't understandgovernment.
I've heard this for 33 years, 33years.

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They lack in foundationalknowledge of government and
sovereignty and nationality,jurisprudence.
They don't have a jurisprudencemind.
They have what a parrot mind.
They're parroting, it's too muchparroting, no studying.
It's no, there's no study, it'sparroting.

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You got a lot of parroting goingon.
I'm being hard because I loveus, I love our people, I love
our people.
We're getting not gonna say it,we're getting our you know what
kicked.
We cannot continue to pass alongthese misconceptions and pass
these misconceptions to ourchildren.

(01:16:31):
We're getting our you know whatkicked.
We're sinking in quicksand.
We're singing, we're sinking inthe misconception, quicksand.

SPEAKER_00 (01:16:44):
All we gotta do is stop.

SPEAKER_02 (01:16:45):
Because you want to sell a package, you want to sell
a package.
Abdullah don't know what he'stalking about.
I got a passport for a thousanddollars.
Five, I'm not making nothing up.
Whenever I say, I'm notexaggerating, my brothers.
I'm not, I'm not exaggerating.
I'm telling you, I've seenpeople sell pack for ten
thousand, fifteen thousand, fivethousand, seven thousand.

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I'm serious.
Um, they're gonna say, Abdullah,get your hands out of my pocket,
Malcolm.
They got something to sell you,yeah.
And then what when it don'twork, they ain't gonna they're

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not answering their phones,they're not gonna answer their
phones, they will not answertheir phones, they will not
answer their phones.
Give them five thousand, give itto them, give them ten thousand.
They ain't gonna answer theirphones, and you're gonna call me
Abdullah! We teaching, weteaching found, we teach a

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foundation.
This is I'm telling you, thiscan move this movement big time.
Proper concepts.
How far are we going in 112years?
How far have we gone in 112years?

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I'm not teaching them, I'm notteaching misconceptions.
I'm not I'm not in thepopularity content.
I don't care about you knowpeople liking me.

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And I I and what I'm saying isthat you're interfering with
their money exchanging.
That's all.
Because they these peopleselling selling are selling
selling these processes andselling these, you know, selling
this paperwork thousands,thousands of dollars.
All right, now uh uh now we havea um to my stick to the stick to

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the prophet's teachings, Moslem.
I I am thank you, brother.
I am I am sure sticking to theprophet's teachings.
Ain't that something?
I am sure, I sure am.
I am sticking, I've not verywell I've I am sticking to the
prophet's teaching.
Thank you.
I sure am Juwali displayed theMoore's flag was behind you, was

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behind you, uh Israel.
He displayed that.
That's a fact.
The elements of a flag,sovereignty, territoriality,
national unity, diplomaticpresence.
He displayed that Moore's flag.
That's his teachings.
The fact that he displayed hisMoors, the Moors flag, restoring

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our Moors consciousness to thewhat?
Our pre-existing sovereignty,our pre-existing national unity,
our pre-existing diplomaticpresence, our pre-existing
territoriality.
I am sticking to the prophet'steachings.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:11):
Thank you.
So he was implying that Iwasn't.

SPEAKER_03 (01:20:16):
I think he was talking about somebody else in
the chat.
All right, good.

SPEAKER_00 (01:20:28):
I think we have about 10 more slides left.
All right, we got time.
Yeah, we got time.
Yeah, we got time.
Yeah, that's right.
Another misconception at large.
Article 3, section two of theUnited States Constitution
authorizes Moors to establishMorocco consulate courts in the
United States.

SPEAKER_01 (01:20:49):
Yeah, Picola just handed me this picture of
Jouale.

SPEAKER_02 (01:20:56):
Yeah, I mean, I'm in Chicago now at the home office
um 912 South Commercial Avenue,Chicago, Illinois.
And uh, I think we're gonna bedoing another live Sunday after
this.
Yeah, we're gonna pretend uhprophetic tea talk.
We'll be doing in uh live.

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Yes.
All right, my on my face on myFacebook page, Abdulla Bay's
Facebook page.

SPEAKER_03 (01:21:22):
Another live after this one?

SPEAKER_02 (01:21:24):
Yeah, my on my Facebook page, Abdullah Bay
Facebook page.
Yeah, yes.
I've been I've been I've doneabout four, five, six live.
In fact, I did one earlier,walking down the street.
Uh Yusuf had me, you know, onhis yeah, I was on a casual
phone conversation and he put meon live.
Yeah.
So um a misconception here.

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All right, so uh article three,section two of the United States
Constitution authorizes Moors toestablish Moroccan consular
courts in the United States, andthe United States.
All right, so Article ArticleThree, Section Two of the United

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States Constitution.
All right, the consular courtsare established by treaties.
So the French there's no there'sno constitution that authorizes
another foreign power toestablish consular courts.

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Consulate courts are establishedby treaty.
The authorization is throughtreaty, not through
constitution.
They negotiate set up consularcourts through treaty.
It's not through it's not withinthat's a that's a that's a grave

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misconception.
Article three, section two ofthe United States Constitution,
and there are there are severalclauses within the section now.
If you're talking about a UnitedStates Consulate Court, that
would be article article articletwo.

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Article two would be not articlethree.
All right.
Article three, section one, andarticle three, section two.
So you're talking about theUnited States judicial power
rested in the Supreme Court inArticle III, section one.

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Article three, section two dealswith the type of cases that the
courts, United States courts canhear.
And uh state, so that's ArticleIII, section two, and six or
seven, eight, nine clauses, butit doesn't invest the the United

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States Supreme Court power toauthorize constant courts.
That is Article III, not eventhe United States constant
courts.
Article two of the United StatesConstitution for United States
constant courts, not for aforeign court, not for a Chinese
constant court, not for a Frenchconstant court, not for a German

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constant court.
So absolutely not.
That is this is a bravemisconception.
So look at Article 2 of theUnited States Constitution
regarding United States constantcourts.
But once it's establishedthrough, once again, the
authorization is through treaty.
So it means a treaty has to benegotiated first, a treaty with

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Siam and United States, whichhas been done.
Treaty with Siam between Siamand United States, which has
extraterritorialityjurisdiction.
That authorization is whatestablished through treaty
first.
And then what so now when thatis done through treaty for

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United States to set up a UnitedStates constant courts in Siam,
all right, so now Article 2 ofthe United States Constitution
now kicks in, where now it'll beit'll be governed.
The United States ConsulateCourt in Siam will be governed
under Article II of the UnitedStates Constitution, not Article
III of Section Two.

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Article II or Article I, ArticleII, executive power or Article I
of United States legislativepower, but not Article II.
Article III, Section Two willnot have authority uh over the
United States Consulate Courtsin Siam.
It'll be Article I Article II ofthe United States courts, United

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States Constitution.
Look it up, my brothers andsisters.
Well back, I'm gonna post thisuh tomorrow.
We'll post that that informationtomorrow.

SPEAKER_04 (01:26:10):
This is good, man.

SPEAKER_00 (01:26:14):
Another misconception at large.
Nationals are sovereigns, sothey don't follow the same laws,
rules, regulations, etc., ascitizens.
All right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:26:24):
There are different types of sovereignties.
The word sovereignty has takenon different meanings over the
period of uh centuries, for aperiod of four centuries.
There are different types ofsovereignty.
You have a most ancientsovereignty that's going back
over 10,000 years, thatsovereignty dealing with divine

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sovereignty, where that theauthority comes from the
divinity.
That is the most that's thesovereignty that the Pope is
operating on.
You know what I mean?
So it's called ecclesiasticallaw or religious law.
But the most ancient part of thesovereignty is divine dealt from
the divine sovereignty.
Then you have another type ofsovereignty where the

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sovereignty is vested in a royalhouse, house of Windsor, House
of Hanover, uh, house of Ottomanor Osman, the Osmond House, and
it's and it's spot and it's whatthrough secession.
All right, so that's throughthat.
So you have that type ofsovereignty that's vested in the
house or or or king or or queen,and that's through secession.

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And you have a another type ofsovereignty, a most the most
modern type of sovereignty isknown as popular sovereignty,
where the sovereignty is vestedin the people.
So the phrase, the politicalphrase, we the people, or the
people, refers to the mostmodern type of sovereignty,
popular sovereignty.

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So we have so now you saynationals are sovereigns.
So they so they're so they whatthey are kings or they're
emperors, so that so they sosovereignty is vested, so
within, so they have a royalhouse.
So that these Moors claiming tobe sovereigns, they have a they

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have a royal house, prevycouncil, royal house.
So but yet, hold on.
So but they raising the Moorsflag though.
They say, I am sovereign.
You're raising the Moors flag,and you say, I am sovereign.

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That's a that refers to apre-existent sovereignty.
So all the all of y'all aresovereign, but that's the
European freedman group crap.
That's the European freedmangroup crap that's been out there
for a while.

SPEAKER_03 (01:28:57):
Is it is the freeman group and the patriarch group
the same group?

SPEAKER_02 (01:29:00):
Yes, yes.
The patriot freedom, yes,patriot, freedom, yes, yes.
Someone called them freemen, youknow, right?
Back like 30 years ago, theywere freemen.
And then the word patriot cameout a little later, yeah,
patriot groups, yeah, same samegroup.
Yeah, that they got that fromthem.
Remember, they don't teachnationality though.
They don't that that those thatthat that that four columns,

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they don't teach that.
They don't teach the fourcolumns I had, you know, the
consequences aspect ofnationality, the the social
culture aspect, the politicalframework, the legal framework,
they don't teach that.
They don't teach the truth ofMorse history.

SPEAKER_03 (01:29:33):
No, of course not.
So, uh the brother Yashra, whathappened to the slide?
Okay, here we go.
Uh the brother, what happened tothe slide?

SPEAKER_00 (01:29:48):
Oh, my hand.
Yeah, what thing went out.

SPEAKER_02 (01:29:53):
You say what?
Everything went out.
He said everything went out.
You still you're breaking upstill.
Are you better?
Oh, good, good.
You focus.
Yeah, put the step.
Waiting for the slides to comeback up.

(01:30:15):
So I touched that uh this isclearing up a lot of
misconceptions, my brothers andsisters.
Please look at part one that wasdone two weeks ago.
We did part one addressingmisconceptions of the in this
moorish movement at large withusing evidentiary standards.
We're using evidentiarystandards and foundational

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principles.
Israel.
He's frozen.
Hey Ryan, he's frozen.
He's yeah, he's frozen.

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All right.
Come on back in.
Alright.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:07):
Alright, alright.
So let's let's move right along.
I mean, we could conclude nowand then come back.
Ah wait, this take give give onemore chance.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:16):
One more chance.
Wow, man.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:18):
How many more slides does he have?

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:19):
We got things seven more.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:21):
Seven more.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:24):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:24):
Damn.
Let's go to let's go to thequestions.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:28):
Let's go to some questions.
Let's go ahead.
Let's go to some questions.

SPEAKER_03 (01:31:30):
So we can.
All right.
Uh the 14th to 15th amendmentsputs us in slavery by giving us
granted privileges, calling usblack when we were already
declared free under the nationalconstitution of 17 uh uh
seventy-four.
That's not a question.

SPEAKER_02 (01:31:51):
All right, one, we were not declared free under the
Constitution, NationalConstitution of 1774.
We once again, the remedy to oursubjugation is the international
law legal process known asreversion to sovereignty.
To declare, to be declared freeis to restore our mother.

(01:32:16):
To be declared free is to goback to our original status, our
original condition ofself-governance, more statehood.
That is to be declared free.
If we're still being subjugatedon the if the United States is
still dictating to us, and yousay United States, and the

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United States starts bangingbanners everywhere, United
States exists, you know, and youmean that we're not the free a
people is to revert, is torestore them to their original
status and condition beforeslavery, before conquest, before
subjugation, before captivity,before bondage.

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That is freeing a people, thatis declaring a people free,
restoring their more state, ourmore statehood, restoring us to
self-authority, self-rule,self-determination, solidarity,
self-governance, reversion tosovereignty, restoring us to
independence, we're stillreviving our more statehood.

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We don't know what constitutesfreedom.
We have to know your originalstatus, our indemnity.
We talk about insurance now.
We restoring a dignity, meaningmaking a person whole.
We have not been made whole.

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Have the elements been restoredof freedom?
Why are we still having theseclasses?
Oh, you know what, Ryan?
You know what?
We're free, Ryan.
You don't you're wasting yourtime, Ryan.
Ryan, you wasting your timehaving this platform this
platform, because we're freealready.

SPEAKER_01 (01:34:25):
My lord, increase me in knowledge.
All right, another one.

SPEAKER_02 (01:34:36):
Moores must go, you can read it.

SPEAKER_00 (01:34:38):
Yeah, sometimes another next misconception at
large, Moores must challenge thejudge's jurisdiction in court by
requesting the delegation ofauthority order.

SPEAKER_02 (01:34:48):
All right, so let's go to the um let's go to the
1783, 1787 um peace treatybetween um his impure majesty,
Emperor Morocco, and the UnitedStates.
All right.
So let's so what does that doesthe treaty read that?
Does the treaty of the peace andfriendship treaty read that?

(01:35:17):
So what so in fact the thetreaty, as I mentioned last and
week part one, that the treatyof peace and friendship between
his impure majesty, EmperorMorocco, and the United States
in 1787 conveys a private rightsof action.
I mean, doesn't convey a privaterights of action, conveys a
non-private rights of action,which means that it's delicate

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the power is delegated to aMoors consul or a United States
council for United Statescitizens, but a Moorsh council.
So does the treaty all right,does the treaty read what what
does the treaty read Moors mustchallenge the United States
judges to jurisdiction and courtby requesting where's that

(01:36:04):
where's where's that in thetreaty?
Show me that, show me thatsubstantial language in the
treaty.
It's not all that.
Show me the substantive languagein the treaty.
That's it.
Show it to me.

(01:36:24):
Give me the article, so type putin the chat.
Type the article, type articlein the chat of the of the
treaty, 1786 or 1836 treaty.
So type in the chat.
Sound simple sounds simple howcut and dry am with it.

(01:36:46):
All right, go to it, go to thenext one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:36:49):
Another misconception at large.
The etymological meaning of theword education means to train
like animals.
All right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:37:00):
All right, you have the the the root word du cad.
You have the prefix e you havethe suffix a-t-i-o-n.
We're gonna start there.
I mean how's I'm not gonnastart.
That's how you start.
You said that it means that, sowe're gonna see that.

(01:37:20):
All right, so du c means lead, emeans out, a t-a-ti-o-en, which
is a suffix now ending, meansprocess of, state of, or
condition of.
Where's animal training in theetymology?
Lead out.

(01:37:43):
Where's where why how does one Ibased on the etymology, lead out
the process or conditional stateof leading out?
How does one derive that itmeans animal training?
How did that come about?
That someone derived that thethey from the etymology that it
means animal training.

(01:38:04):
We gotta start there.
That's the starting point.
Then you give me something elsethat's connotative.
So now, how does how is it thatthe connotative meaning takes
precedent over the mother?
What is that called?
Cultural identity theft, uhsubjugation, uh cultural

(01:38:26):
genocide, or I mean what what sothat's really pretty, that's
really what it is.
I mean, that's I I'm giving theetymology of the word.
They can look it up themselves.
Look up the etymology of theword education.
They don't need to say Abdullahsaid anything.

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Where does animal training comein and the meaning?
The true meaning.
Yeah, not meaning, not meaning,but true meaning meaning refers
deals with semantics, truemeaning we deals with some
etymology.
So we go to the next one.

SPEAKER_00 (01:39:10):
Another misconception at large, Moors
can create allodial titlesbecause they are indigenous to
the land.

SPEAKER_02 (01:39:16):
All right, because United States, just go back to
the the the uh octopus, becauseUnited States is exercising
territorial sovereignty over ourland through the that they came
from France and United States ofMexico, from Russia, from uh uh

(01:39:37):
from Spain, from England slashGreat Britain.
As long as United States hasterritorial sovereignty, which
means that United, that thatthat element is United States
has control over the territoryas well as the inhabitants.
You're gonna do what?

(01:39:57):
What what you're gonna createwhat?
Where you're gonna create what?
Do you know this was inoperation, my brothers and
sisters?
Change of sovereignty and itseffects on the nationality of
the inhabitants, acquisition ofnationality due to subjugation
to session, change ofsovereignty of the pe of a

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people and the United StatesConstitution, law of secession,
territorial jurisdiction, landboundary cession treaties, loss
of sovereignty, acquisition ofterritory.
That's what we're dealing withhere on our land.
And United States has it underlaw of secession.
So we're talking about law ofsecession, where whereby France

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or Spain, the predecessor state,transfers territory sovereignty
to the secession state under thelaw of secession.
And then so gain what?
So if so if if the if the thestatus of the inhabitants is not
determined in the treaty, theUnited States can determine the

(01:41:04):
status, because the UnitedStates is now gained territory
sovereignty.
That's why what that's is whythe United States can what have
that's why they have thesedifferent maps.
United States, yeah, UnitedStates, yeah, United States on
the map.
So United States is used in thegeographical sense because
United States what gainedterritorial sovereignty.

(01:41:25):
That's why you're gonna createwhat?
Why the United States hasterritorial sovereignty?
All right, where you get thatfrom?
European freemans, patriots,patriots told y'all that did the
patriots teach that the oh didthis European patriots teach you
this?
Was this on this on this um onthis uh octopus?

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Did they teach y'all the the thethe the the consequenic aspect
of nationality, the culturalaspect of nationality, the
political framework of nationalof nationality, the legal
framework of nationality?
Did they teach y'all about thesemisconceptions and how to
analyze them?
Did they teach y'all what I havein Moses May Street part one,
Moses May Street Part two, thenLamasonic copy square in the

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connection management of timekeeping?
No.
They have tips, they have nottaught y'all foundational
anything.
They haven't taught y'all anyfoundational anything.

(01:42:29):
They certainly have taught y'allabout nationality.
We go to the next one.
Y'all gonna be further, y'allgonna be further in dick
quicksand.

SPEAKER_00 (01:42:46):
Another misconception at large.
People who are labeled as Negro,black uh negro colored and black
are considered to be stateless.

SPEAKER_02 (01:42:54):
That is not true.
You already addressed this, butnow just a quick all right.
Once again, more is classifiedas niggle colored black,
redefined as niggas coloredblack, main that by France,
Spain, Great Britain, and thatmaintained that redefining
status been maintained by theUnited States for over 200

(01:43:17):
years, are been forced into theUnited States legal system.
They're not stateless, they'resubjugated on the United States.
That's not they're notstateless, they are tied to a
state through subjugation.
Stateless means they would notbe tied to the state a state at

(01:43:38):
all.
But they are tied to the UnitedStates through subjugation.
Do not United States not throughUnited States process, through
international law process knownas acquisition of nationality
through subjugation.
United States applied thatinternational law process
through through the 14thAmendment, through forcing us

(01:44:01):
into their legal system andplacing us into a new
citizenship framework.
So, no, we're not sub they'renot subjugated.
I mean stateless.
They are tied to the UnitedStates through subjugation.

(01:44:24):
Or in unconscious mores.

SPEAKER_04 (01:44:26):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:44:28):
All right.
Another misconception at large,the word confederacy, as
mentioned in the articles ofconfederation, refers to the
Hadanasani Confederacy.

SPEAKER_02 (01:44:37):
All right, so let's go to both instruments.
So we're gonna so I want y'allto later on look at both
instruments.
Show me the substantive languagein the instrument.
I'm but I'm my brothers andsisters, I'll have a subtitle
evidentiary standards, usingevidentiary standards.
It's not complicated, it's notall that.

(01:44:59):
Go to the instruments.
Does the instrument read what hewas on here?
Does the instrument read that?
Does the honor does the aircoreconfederation constitution or
and or how does the signs howdoes the signing constitution
and the articles ofconfederation does it do they
read what's that that does theyread the word confederacy as

(01:45:23):
mentioned in the articles ofconfederation refers?
Does it read that?
Does show me the identify thearticle in the hard night shiny
constitution that reads justthat it's just that simple, my
brothers and sisters.
It ain't all that, it's not allthat.
Go to the instrument, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 (01:45:46):
Source.

SPEAKER_03 (01:45:53):
Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_02 (01:45:56):
Just go to the instrument.
That's all show me in theinstrument.
Well, don't do me no Freddy'sstare.
Don't give me no Sammy, don't dono Sammy Davis Jr.
Just go to the instrument.
What?
He threw me off with that.
That was the first time.
Tap dancing.
Freddy stare, you know, Sammytap dancers, you know what I

(01:46:18):
mean?
Just don't tap dance around it.
Straight to the point with it.
To the point.
That's yeah, that's yeah,straight to the point.

unknown (01:46:25):
Yep.

SPEAKER_00 (01:46:27):
All right.
Next one, uh, anothermisconception at large.
Article four section two is thecitizenship clause distinct from
the 14th amendment.

SPEAKER_02 (01:46:39):
Article 4 section two is the citizenship clause
distinct from the fourth toremember?

unknown (01:46:45):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:46:46):
Is that they're asking uh Article 2 is the is
the United States Constitution.
Yeah, Article 4, Section 2 ofthe United States Constitution,
is the citizenship clausedistinct from the fourth to
remember?
Yeah, is that a misconception?

SPEAKER_00 (01:47:03):
Yes, misconception, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:47:05):
What do they think they mean by that, yeah?
Because I've never I've neverheard that before, but what I'm
talking about.

SPEAKER_00 (01:47:14):
I don't know how to the citizenship clause distinct
from the 14th amendment.
Um article four, section twospeaks on the uh the citizens of
the of each state shall beguaranteed, uh was it the
privileges or what or theimmunities or whatnot of the six
of the several states.

(01:47:35):
And uh the misconception is thatthat's supposed that's
supposedly that clause is acitizenship clause.
But article four, when you getinto article four, that's
dealing with uh the admittanceof new states.

SPEAKER_02 (01:47:48):
So the admission of new states, right?
Article four.
Is that article section three oris Article 4?

SPEAKER_00 (01:47:55):
This this is saying Article 4, Section 2.

SPEAKER_02 (01:47:59):
But that dealing with the admission of new
states.
Yeah, I don't know how toanswer.
I mean, I don't know how tobecause I I don't know how to
address this one.
That this is distinct from thefour to remember because I mean
it will be distinct from thefourth because it's two
different.
This is uh that's this is uhthis was agreed upon uh article

(01:48:20):
four section by the states, umand the northwest ordinance.
Yes, so yes, it will bedistinct.
Is that what we asking?

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:30):
Yes, but I still don't so it wasn't it wasn't to
bring in citizens, it was tobring in states, to bring in the
state as a whole, right?

SPEAKER_02 (01:48:39):
All right, all right, yes, yes.
So I got you.
All right, I didn't see.
I still all right.
I want to just click clear it upfor the people, brother.

SPEAKER_00 (01:48:50):
Okay, so let me find the uh all right.
So article four, section tworeads the citizens of each state
shall be entitled to allprivileges and immunities of
citizens in the several states.
So what it's saying is that thecitizens of each state, like one

(01:49:10):
state, like the citizens ofKentucky, right, shall be
entitled to the to allprivileges and immunities of the
citizens of New York,California, Philadelphia, you
know, all the rest of the statesthat exist.

SPEAKER_02 (01:49:25):
All right, yeah, yeah, I got you.
All right, I understand that.
So that's even that's even thoseum uh Article 4, Section Four,
uh the uh United States shallguarantee a Republican former
equal footing, that's the equalfooting clause.
Equal footing clause, articlefour section four, uh the United
States shall guarantee aRepublican former government,
all states in the Union.
That's an equal footing clause.

(01:49:46):
That was that was one of theagreed upon that they were
discussing when they wereironing out the Northwest
ordinance, and that that tobring in that was part to bring
in new states, all right.
They have to guarantee that thatthat they would be on equal
footing with the 13 parentoriginal states.

(01:50:07):
That would that's tied to that.
That that principle was related,yeah.
Yeah, all right.

SPEAKER_00 (01:50:15):
Okay, but distinct from the 14th are still uh yeah,
they're actually it is the 14thamendment is dealing with uh
naturalization and all right,yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:50:25):
So, yes, it's distinct from the 14th
amendment.
Absolutely, absolutely.
Now I understand where you'recoming from.

SPEAKER_00 (01:50:29):
I got you, but like the claim is that Article 4,
Section 2 is like uh, I guessthat was the citizenship clause
before the 14th Amendment.

SPEAKER_02 (01:50:38):
All right, I got you.
That's the claim.
All right, I still we'll we'llwe'll we'll you know what we're
gonna come, we'll come back toyou and I will discuss that and
then we'll um we're gonna comeback to that to give it, you
know, give them a much clearer,you know, explanation as far as
this that's concerned.
So we're let's move on.

SPEAKER_00 (01:50:57):
So another mixed misconception at large of the
Continental Congress wasestablished by the indigenous
people of the continent.
Kind of really already clearedthat up in the yeah, we already
cleared that up.
All right, so yeah, that thatwas it, right?
That's it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:51:11):
That was it.
All right, good, man.
Thank you, Von, for this extratime, man.
I greatly appreciate you, man,for that.
Uh, you see, we needed it.
We got two.

SPEAKER_03 (01:51:22):
Well, well, I'm gonna just let you know every
anytime you come up here, yeah.
You know, you got the two hours,so that's that's gonna be all
right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:51:30):
So now we know all right, we you know, we know, all
right.
That's good.

SPEAKER_03 (01:51:33):
Yeah, much peace, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:51:34):
Yeah, much peace.
Yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_03 (01:51:37):
Indeed, on that note, thank you, brothers, for
coming out this evening.
Thanks for all of the viewers.
I really appreciate y'all.
Um, uh, don't forget to like,comment, share, subscribe.
I'm getting a commercial maderight now, so I don't have to
say this.
I'm just gonna so I'm justletting y'all brothers know
every 15 to 20 minutes.
I'm gonna click on thecommercial just to let you know.

(01:51:59):
You know, we we need we need theuh no, you need to do that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:02):
No, that's fine.
You need to do the commercial,absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:06):
So again, thank you guys for coming out this
evening, and we'll see you, Iguess, next month, right?
That next month, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52:13):
Next uh next month, the second, second, second
Wednesday of November.
Yep, second Wednesday November.

SPEAKER_03 (01:52:18):
The Moors would be up here.
Peace out to everybody in thechat, and we are out of here.
Peace.

SPEAKER_01 (01:52:25):
Peace.
Peace.
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