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Speaker 1 (00:11):
what's going on?
Everybody out there is ronbrown lmt, the people's fitness
professional, aka soul brothernumber one, reporting for duty,
and I am your host.
You already know what I do here.
You already know me.
You know my face.
We got Prince Yehoshi.
Did I pronounce it right thistime?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yes, you did.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Ah, I got it.
Finally, prince Yehoshi in thebuilding Royal Moorish family.
Now we had some technicaldifficulties.
You know, stream yard is.
Sometimes it gets a littlecomplicated because you got to
go through this app here, whatis it called?
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Chrome, and this, that and thethird.
So we'll only have 45 minutesto get as much information as we
can possibly get from thebrother.
Hopefully he'll come back on,because this brother is.
When you're younger than me, I'msmiling.
You know what I'm saying,because I love to see the
younger people and you know seewhat they're doing, because they
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are the future.
You know what I'm saying.
Not saying that I'm that mucholder than you, but I am older
than you.
You know what I'm saying.
So you know I'm saying.
So you know, I like to see theyounger generation and to see
where things are going with theyounger generation.
Uh, especially in the consciouscommunity, so to speak.
Uh, a fellow, more um and uh,prisha, your whole, your hoshi.
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Let's talk about yourbackground, the beginning.
Let's start from yourbackground, the beginning.
Where are you from?
Speaker 2 (01:48):
well, I was born in
ohio, um moved around a little
bit in detroit, but I uh residein probably north carolina.
That's where I'm at with it.
Okay, so I'm always be amidwest baby.
So no man but my stompinggrounds.
As far as the Morris activity,I'm Godbody 2 on Universal King
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of Law, you know what I mean.
I hold different titles becauseI went through the different
mystery schools.
I don't get in the dip and dabwhatever, et cetera, et cetera,
but North Carolina Republic ismy stomping grounds.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Okay, so you started
in Ohio.
You went where after that?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I was born in Ohio so
that's my birthplace, 17th
Avenue, columbus, ohio, eastside.
I mean north end.
My background, you know, that'swhere my family reside.
I'm a Midwest baby, like myfamily's in the Midwest Detroit,
chicago, some is out west.
We migrated from Greene County,georgia, basically the Cherokee
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tribe, grandfather's DixJackson, which is Chief
Lightfoot, moved me down southto get away from, I guess, the
lifestyle of my family.
You know some of my family wasin the Kingpins and really went
on.
Game time was really more orless getting to that bag and you
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know what that comes with.
You know et cetera, et cetera.
So she moved us down south andyou know I came down here and I
started moving around, but Idon't think it made it any
better because you know I did mything down here too.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
So when you got to
North Carolina, how old were you
?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
I was like 12, 13.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
12, 13.
Okay, that age right there, 12,13, that's when you start
really getting into stuff.
You know what I mean.
You start wilding out a littlebit.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
I wasn't used to
things.
Everything was like slow motion.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Like when I'm from
the liquor stores.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
The stores stay open
until 3, 4 o'clock in the
morning.
You come down here.
They shut down at 9, 10.
So a lot of stuff.
I'm like what the fuck is this?
What's going on?
Like country roads, dirt roads,trailer parks, cows, pigs I
mean I was born in the city soI'm not used to seeing a pig
block the roadway or cow justsitting there and you gotta wait
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till he move, and I mean it waskind of different okay.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So when you got there
in north Carolina, what was the
transition like?
Like, how long did it, you know, take you to get accustomed to
the new environment?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Accustomed.
It took a couple of years, tobe honest, because you know,
with my accent, where I camefrom, being light skinnedinned,
it still was the dark versuslight-skinned, what they call it
the Willie Lentz syndrome.
So a lot of my fist fights waswith darker-skinned people, went
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through a lot, going throughschool, started gangbanging and
all that.
So I kind of jumped off theporch young but, like I said,
with my family up in the Midwestit wasn't no gang banging, it
was more like street gangs anddrug cartels and shit like that.
So you still ain't believingratting and telling.
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You know what I mean?
It still was principles and andthings you had a custom to.
But down south is like um, Ithink they first started getting
their taste of new yorkgangbanging.
So you know that was the trendwhere I was at.
I think I was like me and mysiblings, like the only bloods
in our in our community.
Everything else was cri and GD.
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So at that time it was colorbanging.
So we had to bang out every day.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Wait, hold on, let's.
Let's not go there yet.
We're going to get there, wedefinitely we we going to get
there now.
Check this out.
So now you're 12.
Okay, now you got out here.
You got, I mean not out here,but to North Carolina with your
mom and dad, right?
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Nah, just my mom.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
Your mom All right,
so you're out here.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
My step-pop.
She's Gambian, Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Your step-pop's
Gambian Okay, came out to North
Carolina and now, when you gotout there, so were your family
involved in church?
Was it Muslim?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
So my mother was a
Christian.
Um, I want to say she's achristian now, more or less.
She says she's more spiritual.
My step pops was muslim.
He's actually like one of theprinces from guinea, I mean, um
bojang, that's my step pops.
So you know I used to watch himoffers a lot and things of that
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nature.
But you know, I I used to watchhim offer salat and things of
that nature.
But you know, I always used topay attention.
They used to go back and forthabout faith, but I used to
wonder why he prayed five timesa day and X, y and Z.
But even when my mom had me inthe church, I was kind of
rebellious.
I ain't listening to this shit,I ain't trying to hear, none of
this.
You feel me Like?
This ain't for me, it's just.
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I don't know it.
Just.
This ain't me.
Let me like this born.
I even had the pastor said Iwas the devil because I wouldn't
sit down and be still andlisten to hymns all day.
So he said it had to besomething wrong with me or I had
the devil in me.
So I had like a split christianMuslim.
They were still married.
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They loved each other.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Mm, mm, mm.
Okay, so you grew up in a housewith two parents.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
I wouldn't say that I
mean my stepfather was there,
but I was at an age where my dadleft at five.
I was rebellious.
Like he was my dad yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
He was like tell me
what to do, then you're like I'm
gonna do me.
And he used to like, and I Isalute him, I still call him my
step pops to this day because wegrow to love each other and
understand each other.
But I mean, I always telleverybody my father was a law
got you, got you okay.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So now grow up, and
growing up in that household,
praying five times a day, wouldyou say that kind of like
attracted you to islam um beingthat you come like right now.
You're like Moorish and thingslike that.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I would say yes,
because I was curious of what he
was doing.
So as I got a little older Istarted digging for myself, even
in my teenager years, even whenI was told to leave it alone,
and X, y, z, even dealing withmy grandparents' roots.
Some of my grandparents theypractice hoodoo so, but they use
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the church literature.
So I was used to be confusedabout that, like why are we Papa
Legbra and who's St John and StMary?
I understand that theyconverted Papa Legbra to St John
due to what took place back inthe day.
You couldn't practice that,they'd kill you, right?
So they took their literatureand transferred the names.
You think they're praying toSaint John, but they really
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praying to Papa Labra.
It's a lot of things that I seenas a child.
So it's like with mygrandparents, but dealing with
Islam.
My step pops opened that doorbut it still was a different way
of Islam, even to this day.
I don't think he was Sunni, Ithink he was a Shiite.
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So that's dealing with the Ali.
You know what I mean the Houseof Ali side.
So I seen they was like moremilitant.
You know it was.
You know what I mean.
They really stood on principlesand was what this shit said.
That's just what if it was, ifit was that, it was that right,
right indeed.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
So now attracted to
islam.
Mom, step pop, gambian prayingfive times a day, possibly
shiite mom, christian.
Now all of this is going on inthe household.
12, 13.
What was your introduction?
(10:15):
Because you spoke about ganglife, right east coast bloods or
new york bloods.
What year was it?
What year did you become Blood,as they say?
Come home right.
How did that happen?
What was the process?
And you know, I don't know ifyou could go into any, I don't
(10:37):
really want to go into this.
I mean, I guess you can right,because that was a long time ago
.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
You know I can't
really go into the initiation
and things of that nature butyou know they say when you can't
hold down a move, you know dayone.
But technicality, it was 2006.
You know, I came home to thebrotherhood.
A lot of this shit ain't asecret, even with the knowledge
and information.
It's all over the Internet.
(11:02):
So if down moves, get madbecause I said what I said.
I mean get mad because some ofyour homies leaked out the
information in the hole and wentin his own camps.
So I mean, that's just thefacts.
But I came home in 06.
My big homie was from NewJersey and I love my big homie
because he taught me blackhistory.
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That's where I knew about theBlack Panther Party and things
of that nature we had.
My big homie was from NewJersey and I love my big homie
because he taught me blackhistory.
That's where I knew about theBlack Panther Party and things
of that nature.
We had to learn that history.
Sad story my big homie diedthree, four months later.
Rob Markman Wow, it kind ofturned me cold-hearted of
trusting niggas and I'm going tosay it just like that.
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He was killed by his own littlehomie.
I don't want to go into allthat because there was a case
behind it.
They caught who did it.
There's a transcript X, y, z.
But these are niggas.
I ran with that.
I called my brothers and theykilled our big bro.
That taught us the right way.
Know what I mean.
So I started looking at shitdifferently.
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Like damn, you be standing nextto a nigga that say y'all part
of the same situation and hedone put a bullet in the back of
your head.
You know what I mean.
This is me in my youth years.
So I'm starting to look at shitway different.
You know what I mean.
And it kind of turned mecold-hearted.
You know what I mean.
And it kind of turned me coldhearted.
Not giving a fuck, it is whatit is with anybody.
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And that's when I startedturning up.
That's when I started catchingmy criminal cases.
I was on anybody killer, fuckit, it is what it is.
If that's just what it was,that's just what it was.
But that took place and itstill crush me to this day
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because he's the one thatinitiated me into the Black
Panther situation.
The more science he opened thatdoor he really did.
He used to come to my crib andeverything.
You know what I mean.
Like just before, all theinternet shit and niggas come
home over the internet.
And at the time the ones on theEast Coast know you had to get
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triple O's put on your back.
So I still got my triple O's onmy right shoulder.
My dog calls you had to get itbranded.
This ain't no motherfuckingsecret, it's already out there.
You dig what I'm saying?
So a lot of these new domos,it's just y'all motherfuckers
get a cakewalk, slap aroundwoot-de-woot.
You might get initiated throughthe internet.
I ain't getting that way.
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You know what I'm saying.
I went through the blood, sweatand tears for this shit.
I look at it different.
The generation now is given tothe YNN and it's a different
foundation.
We lived off the brotherly loveover our depression and
destruction.
Love, truth, peace, freedom andjustice.
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That was the breakdown of theFive Point Star.
I started going back andlooking at the literature with
the more science I'm like, ohsnap, these co-exist with each
other.
So it's a lot of principles.
I know out West you got somethat Turk banged.
I think it's like three setsthat banged the FOB.
Over here on the East Coastones argue about the NYB or the
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UBN.
You banged the FOB.
But you have to ask yourselfwhere the FOB come from, whether
it come from the Nation ofIslam, god body, or the more
scientific of America, it stillfrom the Nation of Islam, god
body, or the more sanctimoniousof America, it's still love,
truth, peace, freedom andjustice.
So you know a lot of theseprinciples I apply to myself by
our own literature.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Indeed, indeed,
indeed.
So now you become a part of aset.
Right, you know, you came home,your big homie dies, boom,
you're off the porch.
Obviously, you get intoactivities, things happen.
(15:01):
How did you pick up more withscience?
Well, you just basically saidthrough the teachings, right
Through the literature, right,but how did you get this far in
debt?
Speaker 2 (15:13):
so check this, um.
So let's get through.
I used to play high schoolbasketball.
I played for nightdale nights,I mean.
I was on the varsity teamall-american, I played ball, I
mean, but I still did my thing.
I banged in the streets.
Um, I got into a situation.
I mean, I ain't gonna, I stilldid my thing.
I banged in the streets.
I got into a situation.
I ain't going to lie, I did mytime already.
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We did a robbery.
That's what happened.
We committed a robbery as apiece of man.
It was all over.
The news made the internet.
I think I was 17 at the timeGot fucked around, got sent down
and sent to prison.
I got sent to a youth spreadcalled the High Rise.
Anybody from North Carolinaknow the High Rise is a
gladiator school in NorthCarolina.
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It's 16 floors.
It ain't nothing but babydemons in there.
If you don't survive, thatmeans you wasn't like that.
A lot of niggas getting punkedand getting their shit pushed
back.
You know what I mean.
Every time I came off the 16thfloor I'm blowing something.
I ain't give a fuck.
I had to do my time.
I could do it in a hole.
Every time they brought me down, I blew something.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
Well, hey, hey, hey,
listen, just for y'all who are
on that pause, let's chill outright now.
So blowing something basicallymean, you know, Yep, buck 50.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Buck 50.
Yeah, yup, buck 50.
You know what I mean, yeah.
So, um, I mean all of that's inmy jacket.
The streets might not have it,but the police they got.
I'm STG, level 3, which thatmeans you're a high risk
Security in the community.
That's not broken down either.
But, uh, when I came home Iwasn't allowed to play Ball, no
more.
That shit broke my heart, youknow what I mean.
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Then I couldn't allowed to playball, no more.
That shit broke my heart.
I mean, then I couldn't go backto high school.
They sent me to an alternativeschool.
I got sent to a school calledPuzzle Pieces, and this is where
the science kick in, right.
So this is my elder to this day.
I mean, who crowned me RoyalChief of Information of the
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Washington Empire, dw, among you, the United, the United
Washington, which you weresupposed to have our elder up
here, crown Prince Alim Elba,the other couple of weeks ago.
But my teacher was Philip LedeElba.
He was my teacher, like my realteacher in school, wow.
So he asked me a question.
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So he put these coins on thetable, he put a penny, a nickel,
a dime and a quarter and heasked me.
He said tell me what's wrongwith this?
I'm like I don't know.
He said I want you to look atit.
You don't see the differencebetween the color.
I said, yeah, want you to lookat it.
You don't see the differencebetween the color.
I said yeah, abraham Lincoln'sturned the other way.
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He said, yeah, that was aMoorish man.
You know what I mean?
We're copper-toned people.
Everything else is silver.
So he started going into theliterature of we are Moors and
that's when he started breakingdown the dollar bill and the
pyramid on the back against theeagle and the 13 arrows and you
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know nationality andunderstanding who your tribe is.
And he used to teach us this onthe low.
He couldn't teach this likeopenly, but me and my brother
not my biological brother, but abrother I grew up with he used
to teach us this every day likeLike here, slide this
information, check this out.
X, y, z, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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At that time I was learning, butI was still banging, so you
know what I mean.
Like, if my brother was up here, he'd tell you I got kicked out
of off-turning school because Iwas damn near recruiting the
whole school.
At one point we had the wholeschool on lock.
Everybody was rocking.
I mean the whole school.
You wasn't rocking, you was alame, simple as that.
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And I got a letter one day wheremy mom told me she's like you
can't go back to school.
I'm like what you talking about?
She's like they done kickedyour ass off turning school.
How the fuck you do that?
So I'm like what you talkingabout?
I ain't doing that.
I ain't getting no fights, Iain't had nothing going on.
I just had influence over thestudents in the school.
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She said they kicked you overthe school because they said you
down there you got more controlof the students than the
teachers.
So I'm like how can you kick meout of the school for that?
She's like they don't play byyour rules, you play by theirs.
So you know, once that tookplace, I got kicked out.
That's when I got pushed allthe way to the streets, like she
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sent my little brother back toNew York with his pops.
She's like you a bad influence,xyz.
So I'm like, fuck it, I'm goingto get into what I get into.
So you know, I started livingthe street life.
I created a lot of enemies, butI created a lot of allies.
I was in the streets beefingwith grown men.
I mean they was like 30, 35years old.
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I mean trying to pull up on me.
I made a name for myself andthey trying to figure out who
this Montana guy is.
They pull up to a hood.
All my little homies, probably17, 16, 15 years old, they think
I'm a grown man by the shitthat I'm out here doing.
They're like where your bighomie at?
They're like shit, he up thestreet.
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They called me.
At that time I had a littleflip phone.
I pull up.
They're like man, you ain'tfucking Montana, where's your
big homie at?
Like nigga, I am Montana.
They're like how old are you?
I'm like nigga, I'm 17 and ahalf.
They're like nigga, ain't noway we out here beefing with you
.
You're a little kid.
I'm like it is what it is.
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So I just went through a lotdealing with that side.
You know what I mean.
I done been shot several times.
I done gave my licks back.
You know what I mean.
It's just it's a lot that tookplace.
I done been in mentalinstitutions.
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They got something calledDorpheor Dicks.
I went there for mentalproblems, whatever.
I don't think nothing was wrongwith me.
I think I was just lashing out.
I didn't give a fuck, nobodycould tell me anything, so I
just lashing.
I got placed in a mentalinstitution.
Now it's a park that's where JCole does all his music events
at.
They tore the mental place down.
So it's like I done been inmental institution.
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I think my last bid was crazy.
That's when I start changing mylife after my last bid.
But I'm having children in theprocess.
So my first child is I ain'tget to see her like that.
I still don't see her to thisday because her mama's bitter.
But my second child her mamahad her when she was young.
We was in the streets, whatever,but I caught a charge.
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I caught several charges.
They're called stack charges.
So they hit me with so manycharges I ain't know.
When I was coming home I wasfacing well, um, 60 years, um, I
got all my black and whites ifanybody want to check that too,
you know I mean.
So, um, as I'm sitting, theycharged me with a double, double
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shooting.
Uh, homicide.
Uh saw with a deadly weaponintended to kill three times
armed robbery Anything in thearea that got hit.
They charged me with it whetherI did it or not.
So with that.
That's how I started learningthe law.
So when they sat me down, I'mlike the lawyer kept coming back
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with pleas.
I'm like, nigga, you work forthem.
Nigga, you keep bringing methese stupid ass pleas.
You work for them.
What you keep bringing, are youfighting for me or are you
fighting for them?
Because right now you bringingme the dumbest pleas in the
world?
So I've never been a dummy.
I always do my own duediligence.
So you know.
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They got jailhouse lawyers.
So I went to go see thejailhouse lawyer.
He was like do X, y, z, this ishow you get in the law library.
You can start studying thisshit for yourself.
So he gave me the sauce.
I filed my motion.
Boom, got him removed, startrepresenting myself.
I got six months in the lawlibrary.
I started doing my thing.
The county reappoint him backto my case.
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So I'm like okay, since youwant to be my attorney, nigga,
you work for me.
I already done broke down thewhole motherfucking case.
You ain't even got to do nowork here, I got it for you.
Here's the general statutes onthis.
I need a motion to discovery.
If they ready to go to trial, Ineed you to file a speedy trial
motion.
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They got 180 days or violatesthe constitution.
I need all my constitutionalrights.
So after the 180 days they bringme to court, they drop majority
of the charges and they chargeme.
He like, listen, we can beatthe case, but the court system
so fucked up.
They they're going to makesomething stick.
I don't care what you say, youcan get a jury or whatever.
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They're going to make somethingstick.
You either take the plea oryou're going to be walking the
line.
So I'm like, if I take the plea, what is it?
So at that time I sat for likethree to four years it's time
served already with the chargethey want me to plead to.
So I'm like, fuck it.
I got to get home to my baby.
You know what I mean.
I don't know what the hellgoing on.
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Xyz Boom.
At the time I am banging.
I ain't getting no letter frommy homies.
Nobody ain't sending no bread,none of that shit.
You know what I mean?
I tell the little homies allthe the time you get involved in
this shit, don't think nobodygonna make sure you straight.
A lot of this shit is justfucked up.
So, long story short, I comehome post-release.
Do that start getting involvedin the community.
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Now, I mean, I start being anactivist.
That's when I uh, like a yearlater, this was like 2000, shit,
it's not too long.
This was like maybe seven yearsago I became a community court
advocate.
Speaker 1 (25:13):
Okay, how did you get
involved with that?
Speaker 2 (25:18):
So I met the devil
and I ain't going to knock her.
She didn't want to put me in agame.
I never knocked Diana Powellfor what door she got me through
, but she's still the devil.
Diana Powell for what door shegot me through?
But she's still the devil.
And she know I tell her to thisday, even if she watching this,
she know the devil shit she dobehind the scenes.
But I was with Justice ServeIncorporated.
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It's a justice servicenonprofit for youth.
So they advocate for youth.
You know what I mean Not to goto jail or prison or detention.
They basically come to theprogram and get help, mentoring,
things of that nature.
Long story short, she liked thework I do and liked the
influence I had on the youth.
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Plus, I had a little name inthe street so they already knew
who I was.
So if they listen to you to godo some bad shit, why won't they
listen to you to go dosomething good?
So I eventually became thepresident over the nonprofit.
So becoming a president activearound in North Carolina, I
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helped pass the Senate Bill 261,second chance act.
Me and our non-profits helpedpass that through the house of
senators, the house ofrepresentatives.
We helped pass that bill inNorth Carolina the second chance
act.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Okay, where is this
exactly?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
in North Carolina
this is in Wake County, north
Carolina, but the second chanceact is for the whole state,
right.
So Justice County North.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Carolina, but the
Second Chance Act is for the
whole state Right.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
So Justice Serve
North Carolina, that is in North
Carolina.
Raleigh, that's theheadquarters, raleigh, north
Carolina, wake County.
So, long story short, I becamea community activist.
I had to go through training.
I was trained by.
I had to get trained by the DA.
I had to get trained by thechief judge.
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I had to get trained by thechief probation officer.
Everybody the hell rankedinside the courtroom.
I had to get training from them.
The only reason I had to gettraining?
Because you're not allowed topractice legal lease.
So you can advocate but youcan't tell them.
If, like, say, the judge isabout to give them time and you
know that it's not right, I'mnot allowed to say nothing.
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All I can do is go in andadvocate.
Hey, that's a good brother, youknow, let him come home.
X Y Z.
So it was a time we was meetingChuck Carwell he's no longer the
public defender chief.
We was building and we had asession and I asked it was the
DA to judge the chief publicdefender?
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And my question is I said y'allmake all this money in the
courthouse, right?
Traffic tickets often charges,people being charged with things
of this nature.
I said can you tell me wherethe money's going to and how we
got homeless people on thestreets.
When I tell you I got pulledout that class so quick and
pulled to the side, he said youtoo smart for your own good,
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like I suggest you be quiet andcome back in here and just
listen and learn.
So I'm like damn.
When he said that, I said thisshit getting wicked.
You know what I mean?
Because now they got a moneyflow but they can't tell me
where the money flow going to.
Right, Exactly.
So I still kept doing my thing.
I was getting checks sent to methrough the nonprofit.
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That's how I fell off withDonna Powell.
I had $5,000 checks, $10,000,$15,000 checks.
They got to send it through thenonprofit.
The nonprofit got to push it,distribute it down.
All this money getting sent in,I ain't getting nothing.
So eventually the lady like youget that check I sent you.
I'm like no, she's like well,we been sent you a check.
(29:05):
So I'm like what check?
So she sent me the.
She showed me the informationthat she sent it to my director
Director pocketing all the money.
So after that I kind of spazzedout.
I'm like you got me out herespending my money, putting all
this work in and you're gettingfunding for what I'm doing.
So that's when I backed out.
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I still was connected with myelder.
So you know, once I backed allthe way out I kind of went to
the more science side.
Like I already know that I'mCherokee, I know my lineage.
I mean, my grandmother alwayskept me on game.
But my elder tapped back inwith me.
He said listen, I think you'reready to step up as the Royal
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Chief of Information.
So he crowned me Royal Chief ofInformation dealing with the
Unitary Washington.
So, Dr Lim, he was aware of thesituation.
He, like anybody, got anyquestions or concerns.
You're a representation of me.
But me and the Empress Tiara ofthe Washington Empire, DW
(30:09):
Monaghan, that's my bloodrelative, Even dealing with the
Turner John, Henry Turner Jr,the Louisiana Purchase, I mean,
this is my bloodline, so thisain't no appointment or any
things of that nature.
These are things that I'mfinding out as I get more in
depth and with the more science,more in-depth and with the more
(30:35):
science.
So, um, my uh, original grandchic of the more science, temple
of america, los angeles templeone-on-one, which is the body uh
that cosmo l was a part of now.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
You know what's so
interesting, though?
Like, because yo, this wholetime now, now we, you, you're
cognizant of of the time, right?
So I guess you're moving withspeed now the time, right, so I
guess you're moving with speedNow.
The thing about it is, though,it sounds like some amazing shit
you're doing here, because it'slike you're over here, they're
sending you checks, you'remaking moves, and then now you
(31:05):
end up with a lean base you knowwhat I'm saying organization or
nation, and then now you'reover here with the with, with,
uh, cosmo L's faction of theMoria, science, like bro, like
what do you do?
What are you up all day?
Like, how are you moving around?
Speaker 2 (31:24):
So um, it's a lot.
It's a lot to take on.
I wear many hats.
Like I said, I'm God body too.
I'm universal King a lot.
I mean, one of my elders isKnowledge Devon.
The brother that gave meuniversal King a lot is Shai 120
(31:44):
.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Oh you talking about
Shai 120 from New York.
Yes, shai 120, shot 120?
, 120?
, shot 120.
I got pictures with him.
Hold on hold on Shot 120, theOG right.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
Yeah, I don't want to
get into the situation because
they got a whole some more otherstuff going on.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
already know.
I already know, I already knowOkay, cool, so Shot 120,.
Yeah, I already know, I alreadyknow, I already know Okay, cool
, so shot 120.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Boom, I can trace my
bloodline from Becca all the way
to B-I-L-L-A.
To Father Allah.
You know what I mean, like Iknow my lineage when it comes to
that too.
So, like I said, I sat in manymystery schools.
I had many teachers, so that'swhy I don't get into the back
(32:31):
and forth.
I mean even being a student ofMalachi York.
I mean my daughters of the Yorkfamily.
I mean like one of his bloodgreat nieces is in the room with
me right now.
I mean so it's like I'm tappedin.
You know, washington and theWabi's was supposed to connect
at one point.
Anyway, my daughter, she ispart of the York family, with
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all the little bullshit they gotgoing on and how he was blah,
blah, blah.
It ain't that for me.
It's the information that Idigested and I apply it to this
day.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Okay, okay.
So now you're moving around,you getting these, you're not
getting checks.
You're not getting checks right, so you're back away from this
situation.
What's the next move?
Speaker 2 (33:20):
so I started getting
to a bag.
You know I got my cdls.
You know I've been doing, uh,construction work since I was
like 18.
So I started off being acarpenter.
I did roofing.
I even started my own detailingcompany where that took off and
my partner took off to Atlanta.
Like I told you, my backgroundis deep.
(33:42):
It'd take years I ain't goingto say years, but it's 45 and
going to cover it.
So right now I'm a constructiondriver.
So I do striping on the highwayso I keep your highway safe.
I put reflectivities nowthroughout the whole state of
North Carolina on yellow whitelines, turning signals,
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reflectors so you can see on thehighway what lane is.
What I do, that that's what Ido for a living.
So you know I've always been ahardworking man.
I mean it was times when I wasin the streets, you know was a
dope boy, fast money X, y, z.
You know we'd get into that atanother time.
(34:26):
You know the lifestyle.
That was my Ohio lifestyle,because I did come down to NC
when I was like 12, 13, but Istill bounced back to Ohio in my
teen years and got to that bag.
I mean because you know moneywas calling.
So it's now.
It's like I started chasing myown bag.
I don't wait on nobody to giveme nothing.
I mean, the only one that'sgoing to take care of your
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family is you, and if you takecare of your family as a man,
you're just a coward.
To take care of your family isyou, and if you take care of
your family as a man, you'rejust a coward.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
That's a fact.
That's a fact, that's a fact.
All right, so now you bouncefrom this organization.
You get your CDL, you get intothis.
Now, what organization?
Okay, how did you get?
How did you become a part ofthe ancient the Moorish?
How do you become a part of theancient the Moorish?
How do you say it?
The free?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
ancient free Moorish
rights, the Moorish rights, yeah
.
So to talk about that, I caughta lot of backlash because I
left the Moorish Science Templeof America.
I got tired of the back andforth.
You know what I mean?
The Braswell Bay, the ArjoneBay, who's the real grand,
supreme, grand Sheik?
I don't give a shit Me either.
(35:33):
Why?
I say because the prophetbrought what he brought and that
information belongs to all ofus and it's not just for anybody
.
I mean, this is mine, it's notyours.
The prophet said this is for meand don't do that.
Hey bro, you in the way.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
We don't care.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
We don't care, so so
you really, you really in the
way of our people building now.
I mean like, like I said, my,my, my grand sheik was bayon bay
.
My grand governor was victorteller, my second um cousin.
I am an adept of the morescience temple.
I went through the adeptchambers, I, I had the
(36:11):
literature.
I have the authority toestablish my what do they call
it?
My sub-temple.
I have all that.
You can check the files inNorth Carolina.
I'm not registered as a 501c3.
I have a 508c1a.
I can set up the 805ILC.
Been there, done all that.
(36:31):
So when I seen all thebacklashing back and forth and
arguing on the internet I'm nothere to argue with Moors on the
internet I'm going to ask youquestions that I know you can't
answer.
Know what I mean.
So with the Moors rights, Istarted seeing them brothers
being unity and I always studiedmasonry throughout my entire
life.
Most of my family areFreemasons, I mean my uncle.
(36:55):
He's 33 and a third Lodge 42,arlington Ohio.
But you know they couldn't giveout certain information.
It's not a secret society, it'sjust a society that holds
secret information for peoplethat is allowed to have it.
What is the difference betweenthat and the ADEPT chamber?
You're not releasing theinformation out the ADEP chamber
, you're being secretive.
I'm not the prophet saying allthis belong to us and the veil
(37:17):
has been revealed.
So with the Moores rights, Ihad to go see for myself.
And the Avatar clip, hazel Bay.
He says if you're going topractice masonry, why not
practice your own?
I mean, who masonry are youpracticing?
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So if I'm going to practicemasonry and I'm already a Master
Moore, why not go with theMorris Rice?
So I became a member, I believeearly May or April I became a
member, I got initiated.
So you know I went to Maryland,you know, seeing what was going
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on with the brothers.
I got a lot of brothers thatwant to get on board, but I told
them to wait, hold on, let mego put my head in first, because
I'm not going to send you to godo something that I ain't going
to do.
I mean, if it's right, it'sright.
If it's wrong, it's wrong.
We're going to step all the wayback.
I mean because we already dealwith the mystics and things of
that nature.
We've got the science.
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Dr Malachi York brought us awhole lot of that.
So going up there and buildingwith brothers some of the
brothers that's there, are partof the temple.
Some of the brothers are SunniMuslims, some of them are
Christians.
Whatever your religion is,leave it at your household.
Whatever you practice behindclosed doors, that's your
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business.
I should have my business inyour home anyway, and how you
run your household anyway,that's your house, not mine.
Certain things, certain thingsjust stuff at the threshold.
So just going out there andbuild with these brothers and
seeing the pure love andlearning more, it's a learning
(39:01):
experience.
When I come to a certainorganization, I come to learn,
not to take over or dictate.
So if I can come somewhere andyou can teach me, this is where
I need to be.
So me taking the classes andjust sitting in, I'm learning.
You know what I mean.
I'm learning the higher S's ofmyself and the different tools
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and the different applicationsof how to be a better me.
It doesn't matter if I have allthis information in my head and
I can break this down, but youcan teach me how to be a better
man.
Masonry is about buildingcharacter.
It's not about elites andIlluminati.
Yeah, you got signs and symbolsand certain people got power
(39:42):
when they can move certainthings around.
I joined the Morris Rikes tobetter my characteristics and my
craft.
If I'm going to be a part of aMasonic order, it's going to be
the Moorish rites.
I could have joined a PHA.
I had worship masters thatsigned my application where
they'll walk me to the thirddegree.
You know what I mean.
So when I seen the Moorishrites I'm like Moorish rites,
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ancient free.
Oh, I got to see what this is.
So I did my own due diligence,I did my background on who
Clifford Hazel Bay was.
I mean, I understand he came outfor Scottish rights, but ones
have to understand that theMoors are the fathers and the
founding fathers of masonrybecause we, the one that gave
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them the science of civilizationperiod.
Everything comes from thescience of civilization period.
Everything comes from thescience of us.
So why?
Why are you not going to acceptwhat belongs to you?
Can't know and this is not tobe racist can't know?
You're in pain.
Tell me that I'm, you'reaccepted and you're not.
I'm accepted by blood.
What do you?
So it's a beautiful thing andyou know you got good and bad
(40:54):
and everything.
Don't get it mixed and screwed.
It might be some bad MoorsFreemasons.
It might be some good ones.
It might be some good TempleMoors, it might be some bad ones
.
It's good Damus in the streetsand it's bad Damus.
It's bad Crips and it's goodCrips.
Know Good Damu's in his streetsand his bad Damu's, his bad
Crips and his good Crips.
Know what I mean.
Don't judge a man by what he is.
Judge him by his character.
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Our man carry his self and youknow them brothers.
They just pour into me, theylove on me.
You know it's a brotherhood.
It's organized.
You know they constantly haveclasses that help us build and
dealing with mental health andphysical health.
You know, going to the craft Idon't see this done in other
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organizations, and I'm talkingabout Monday through Friday
there's a class.
You get it for free.
They're not making you pay forthese classes, you're getting it
for free.
You know what I mean.
So it's like it's a beautifulthing, I mean.
You know what I mean.
So it's like it's a beautifulthing, I mean that sounds good.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
I like that.
I like that before we, beforewe go, we got a couple minutes
break down the Royal Moorishfamily yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 2 (42:05):
So I am one of the
founders of the Royal Moorish
family.
It's basically with differentMorris all around the nations I
build with the different streetMorris.
You got some Morris HDD, someblood, some script, some Zane,
anything.
This is not to overthrow theprophet or be a religious
movement.
(42:26):
We're Royal Morris family.
It's more or less like abrotherhood, we standing on
business about our brothers.
These are brothers that gotfamily.
We got children.
You know what I mean.
We take care of business.
There's no illegal activities.
We don't allow punks or rats orthings of that nature inside
our society.
You know what I mean.
This is not to be a new gangmovement.
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It's none of that.
It's brothers that respect themoral science and it's basically
it was established because someof you moral science temple
pushed us out.
Oh, you can't do this, youcan't X, y, z.
We're still going to go in thecommunity and enlighten our
brothers with the moral sciences.
We're still going to drop the120 degrees on our brothers so
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they have knowledge of self.
We got sisters.
That's a part of the situation.
You never know who is RMFbecause we're in different
organizations.
You got brothers.
That's RMF.
That's in the Moorish Rites.
You got brothers that's RMFthat's in the Temple.
You got brothers that's RMFthat's in the Masjid.
You got some brothers that areChristians, but these are our
brothers and, at the end of theday, whatever you practice in
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your household, as long as youare submissive to the will of
Allah, god, yahweh, elohim,whoever you call them, it's
peace and love.
Brother, you're my brother.
At the end of the day, we're atwar with the Benita and the
Beaks.
We're in a big belly of theBeaks.
So now I mean, we stand on love, truth, peace, freedom and
justice, and if you violate thefour, you will get to five,
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that's just point blank periodCheck.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
Now that's peace,
brother.
I understand it was thoroughfrom start to now.
The Royal Moorish family I wantto know a little bit more about
the Royal Moorish familybecause that sounds very
interesting.
Meeting the brothers where theyare and bringing brothers
together, that's peace.
On that note, thank you forcoming out this evening.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
You will see more of
Prince Yehoshi and anything you
want to say before we cut out,brother, just peace.
Blessings be upon everybody.
Be who you want to be.
Don't be what people want youto be or dictate you to be.
Be yourself.
The prophet said to be yourself.
Don't get caught up indictatorship or leadership.
I only submit to the will ofAllah, and Allah is the only one
(44:45):
that can give me guidance.
We are our brothers and sisters, people, and the first thing we
should do is love each other,and I'll leave out with that on
that note, thank y'all forchecking us out this evening.
Speaker 1 (44:59):
We're out of here.
Peace, peace.