April 13, 2025 • 58 mins
Who was Master Fard Muhammad, and why is his history so often described as "mysterious"? What exactly is the Mother Plane that many mistake for UFOs? Are the prophets of the Nation of Islam truly deceased, or do they live on to fulfill divine prophecy?
Minister Eric Muhammad cuts through misconceptions surrounding Nation of Islam teachings in this riveting conversation with host Ron Brown. With remarkable clarity, Minister Muhammad reveals the detailed history of Master Farad Muhammad, born in Mecca in 1877 and specially prepared for his mission to "raise the Black man from death to life." Far from mysterious, Minister Muhammad explains that Master Farad's history has been thoroughly documented but deliberately mystified by those unwilling to accept it.
The discussion ventures into extraordinary territory as Minister Muhammad describes the Mother Plane – a massive half-mile square aircraft housing 1,500 smaller planes equipped with powerful bombs. These aren't alien spacecraft but advanced technology created by Black scientists and piloted by specially trained Black men. "These planes are flown by your brothers and mine," he states emphatically, challenging popular UFO narratives.
Perhaps most thought-provoking is Minister Muhammad's assertion that Black people are the original "makers of Earth and universe." He questions how a people who created planetary systems and celestial bodies could be portrayed as having achieved nothing significant until white civilization emerged. Drawing from Supreme Wisdom teachings, he articulates why both Master Farad Muhammad and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad must still be alive to fulfill prophecies that remain incomplete.
Whether you're familiar with Nation of Islam teachings or encountering these concepts for the first time, this conversation offers rare insight into a be
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
What's going on?
Everybody out there, it's RonBrown LMP, the People's Fitness
Professional.
Thank you guys for coming outviewing.
We have no viewers right now,but you know, sometimes our
people come late to the party.
They come about.
What do they call it?
Color people time.
(00:42):
Yes, sir, cpt brother, that'swhat we called it.
Cpt.
That's what happens.
Usually people get on the livelike 30 minutes after it started
.
So it's all good.
Thank you for coming out thisevening.
Eric Muhammad, minister EricMuhammad, you've been on the
show quite some time.
I really appreciate yoursupport.
(01:03):
You're like the star of thisshow here.
Whenever you come on, peoplewant to hear what Minister Eric
Muhammad has to say.
So here we have him.
We have him today to talk abouta few things, things that I
don't quite understand, aboutthe teachings of the Nation of
Islam, and you know I want toyou know, talk about him.
I want to first start off withWD Farad and his contribution to
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the Nation of Islam.
Did he create the teachings?
What do you know about him andhis mysterious?
He has a mystique about him andthere aren't many pictures of
him and his history is kind ofmysterious.
Can you break down what youknow about his history, peace
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have been peace.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
As far as Master Farad Muhammad's history, there
is very, very clear and very,very clear and very, very
detailed history of Master FaradMuhammad.
That is from himself, throughhis messenger, the most
honorable Elijah Muhammad.
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But whenever his history isspoken of, it's always spoken of
in terms of the words that youuse mystique, mysterious and so
forth.
This is because the history ofMaster Farad Muhammad that is in
the Bible and in the Holy Quranand in the detailed teaching of
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that history from himselfthrough the Most Honorable
Elijah Muhammad, is not acceptedas history.
It's viewed as mythology, it'sviewed as something made up.
One of the things that peoplewho disbelieve in the teachings
of the Most Honorable ElijahMuhammad like to say is well,
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that's your religious beliefsystem.
A man tells us of his historyand he gives it to us in
significant detail and he pointsit out to us in the Bible and
in the Holy Quran.
And because we don't want toaccept it, we invent another
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history that is not detailed,that does not have clarity, and
we call the invented historyfrom ourselves mystery, mystique
, mysterious.
Master Farad Muhammad gave ushis history.
There's a book that has beenput together by Messenger Elijah
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Muhammad, propagation Society,mips, and the title of that book
is the True History of MasterFarad Muhammad.
A whole book on it, and yetwe're saying it's mysterious.
We're saying it's mysteriousbecause we don't want to accept
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the history that has been taughtto us.
Master Farad Muhammad is not amystery man.
Master Farad Muhammad was not amodel, so he didn't come here
to do photo shoots.
You know what I mean.
There's no photo album ofMaster Farad Muhammad.
He didn't come here to do photoshoots.
You know what I mean.
There's no photo album ofMaster Farad Muhammad.
He didn't come here to make aphoto album.
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Master Farad Muhammad came hereto raise the black man from
death to life, and so, yes, weonly have one picture of him.
We didn't even need that one.
Yes, we only have one pictureof him.
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We didn't even need that one.
Bottom line is Master FaradMuhammad, as the most honorable
Elijah Muhammad teaches us, wasborn in was a white woman.
His father was going to havehim to come to search for us and
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to do a work among us, and sohe went up into the hills the
messenger teaches us to get awhite woman to prepare her to
give birth to his son so that hewould look something like the
white man, because he wouldn'tbe able to be successful in a
solid white country if he cameas a solid black man.
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The messenger also teaches usthat in order for him to give
justice to both peoples, blackand white, he had to be made
part of both black and white.
And so you find Master FaradMuhammad's history again in both
the Bible and in the Holy Quran.
Master Farad Muhammad isprophesied in both books, by
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several of the prophets of theBible and also by prophet
Muhammad in the Holy Quran.
There's much more that could besaid, but that would be a
lecture and we only have an hour.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Right, indeed, indeed .
So as far as his, his history,can you just give me a brief
history Like where is he from,uh, and where did he like, did
he pass on that whole thing?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
OK, Master Farad Mohammed was born in Mecca,
arabia, on February the 26th1877.
Like I said, he was speciallyprepared to do the work among us
that has resulted in thesupreme wisdom among us.
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When Master Farad Muhammad wasonly six years old, he saw
himself pushing the DuPonts andthe DuPonts and the Kennedys, or
the DuPont's and theRothschild's, whoever were the
real rich of that particulartime.
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There's two families that arementioned and I know one of them
was the DuPont's, but the otherI can't remember exactly.
But he saw himself at the ageof six pushing these two very
rich families into a lake offire.
And these two very richfamilies really represent the
wealth and power of the whiterace.
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It's not just those twofamilies.
All right.
Now, when he was a young boy,his father would take him to buy
, as the messenger said inSavior's Day 1973 lecture, he
would buy him words of wisdomfrom this great one and that
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great one and he would pay highprices for it to give to his son
, to his son and as he said inthe God tribe of Shabazz, if you
put that in YouTube, thatlecture will come up.
As it says in the God tribe ofShabazz, we know those of us,
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who have supreme wisdom, thathistory is written every 25,000
years.
Yes, sir, the Most HonorableElijah Muhammad teaches us,
whenever our history lasts for25,000 years, what has
transpired is put away in a bookin a vault in Mecca, and no one
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is able to get access to thatbook unless, as they say, he's a
wonder man.
The most honorable ElijahMuhammad said he used those
words unless he's a wonder manwho is going to bring about a
universal change in civilization.
The point that I'm making isthis we are taught that no God
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coming after a previous God isable to pattern his new
civilization after the wisdom ofthe previous God, and so if you
are the God of one cycle, youdon't get to peep into the
25,000 year cycle of what wasdone before you, unless you are
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someone who is to bring about auniversal change in civilization
.
The point I'm making with thatis Master Farad Muhammad, unlike
most gods, was given access tothat vault and to the cycles
previous to the present cyclethat we are living in now.
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The messenger teaches thatMaster Farad Muhammad could
recite by heart the history ofthe Black Nation 150,000 years.
That's six Qurans and thetypical average.
God only knows his own cycle.
You follow me?
(10:15):
Yes, sir.
And so Master Farad Muhammad isunlike most of the gods who have
come before him, unlike most ofthe gods who have come before
him, and he is the greatest andthe wisest of all of the gods
that came before him, because hewas produced by the longing in
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us to produce a God from us whowould do two things One who
would be greater in wisdom andbe able to remove the
civilization of Yaqub, but two,to perfect the creation that the
first God brought intoexistence Master Farad Muhammad.
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In his person, we come to thehead of everything, and this is
why he's called the everlastingfather and this is why none of
the scientists could see intothe civilization that he would
bring into existence.
And so their writings in Bibleand Quran take us up to the end
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of Yaqub's world and a smallglimpse into the new world that
will be brought in by MasterFarad Muhammad, but not into it
in any depth because they, likethe scripture says, no eye has
seen, no ear has heard, nor hasheart been able to conceive.
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So, master Farad Muhammad,being born in Mecca and being
the greatest and the wisest ofall the gods that came before
him, having the power to removethe white man's world, yaqub's
world, and bring in a new world.
The white man's world,ya'aqob's world, and bring in a
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new world, wanted to, as thescripture teaches, find that
lost sheep before destroying thewolves, because that lost sheep
is not responsible for theevils and the sins that they
were born and shaped in.
And so Master Farad Muhammadcame to do two things kill the
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white man, save the black man.
Kill the white man, save theblack man.
And, like I say very often in mylectures, the reason I am a
member of the Nation of Islamand a follower of the most
honorable Elijah Muhammad asopposed to being a Moor, as
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opposed to being a Black Panther, as opposed to being a
Garveyism I taste Afrocentricity, I taste Black militants and
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taste all of these Blackconscious ideologies and
philosophies.
And I just happen to like thetaste of the teachings of the
most honorable Elijah Muhammadbest, and so I represent that.
No, the reason I'm with Elijahis because Elijah is with Farad.
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Marcus Garvey can't kill thewhite man.
Noble Drew Ali can't kill thewhite man.
Nobody else can kill the whiteman.
So it's not about whether I likea teaching or dislike a
teaching, because I'm going totell you straight up I like the
teaching of Noble Drew Ali and Ilike the teaching of Marcus
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Garvey and I definitely like theidea of picking up weapons and
killing white folks.
But the bottom line is, MasterFarad Mohammed has the power to
kill the white man and I don'tcare what kind of black teaching
you have, if you can't killwhite folks, what's the use of
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it?
Period, no teaching is going todo anything without killing the
white man.
Yes, sir, you were going to say.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes, this is a question my chat asked, but this
is a question that I had inmind.
So, killing the?
Okay, so, farad, you're sayingWD Farad or Master Farad
Muhammad, has the power to killthe white man.
Okay, so are we talkingfiguratively or are we talking
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literally?
Killing the white manfiguratively, won we talking uh?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
figuratively or are we talking literally?
Killing the white manfiguratively won't solve our
problem.
The white man has to be deadand gone in order for our
problem to be solved.
He's got to go.
The lessons teach it.
The lessons teach it, 39 and 40of the one through 40.
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They teach it.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's clear oh my God, okay, okay, I was good, you did
it.
You did it already.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
We don't have to go there.
All right to mikey fever.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I saw you agreeing peace to mikey fever yeah, yeah,
ben, uh, it's uh, yeah, yeah,yeah, we got to talk a bit, uh,
so, um, now, moving on to motherplane, you have so you the
mother plane.
Can you explain the motherplane?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
yes, okay.
Now it's one thing to sayMaster Farad Mohammed has the
power to kill the white man.
It's another thing to be ableto explain how.
If he has the power to kill thewhite man, why does he have the
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power?
How does he have the power?
What is the power he has tokill the white man?
Now we're talking about thatmother plane.
The most honorable ElijahMuhammad teaches us that the
mother plane was built for thepurpose of destroying this world
.
It is a plane, not a ship.
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It's not a spaceship.
It was built right here on theearth, on the island of Nippon.
It was built by black, brown,red and yellow scientists.
Different ones built differentparts of it in isolation from
each other.
None of them knew what theother was building.
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Even those that were buildingit didn't know what they were
building.
They just had the assignment tobuild that particular part of
the plane that they built.
The plane that they built.
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Now it's a plane.
All of this verbiage about spaceno, this is a human built
planet, like a satellite.
It's a human built planet,built right here on the earth,
but it is built with atechnology that is almost
unimaginable.
The technology of this plane.
It's a half mile by a half milesquare.
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It's like an aircraft carrier.
Okay, that flies what I meanwhen I say it's like an aircraft
carrier.
This particular plane, half mileby half mile square, has other
planes that lodge in it, and sothese 1,500 small planes because
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that's the number of the bombsthat they carry are equipped
with drills and timers, and theexplosives of these bombs are
30% more powerful than any bombsthe white man has.
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The white man's bombs use 70%dynamite.
These bombs use 100% dynamite.
They have drills and timers.
The timers are set for thedrills to dig into the earth.
When they hit the earth,they're set to drill one mile
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deep into the earth and whenthey drill one mile, the timer
causes the bomb to explode andit brings up a mountain one mile
high.
So we're talking 1,500 planeswith three bombs each.
That's 4,500 bombs.
Three bombs each, that's 4,500bombs, 100% dynamite.
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All of these bombs, themessenger teaches us, will fall
on land.
None of them will land in water.
Three of the planes will bekept.
So we're talking about threethousand, no, four thousand four
hundred and ninety seven planesTimes three bombs each, all of
them going to be dropped onAmerica, and the other three
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planes using those other ninebombs are going to be dropped on
Europe.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Okay, Now how does this come about?
Like, where can people findthis literature or this
information?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well, we do have.
There is a book put togethercalled the Mother Plane that
also can be purchased fromMessenger Elijah Muhammad
Propagation Society.
I'll send you the link, okay,okay.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I think I can put it in here now.
I'm not sure.
I don't want to mess this videoup, so I don't want to start
playing with this laptop.
I'm not a 12-year-old kid, soI'm not as good with this
technology as they are.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Right, right.
So who came up with thisconcept and are there actual
facts of these planes' existence?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh, absolutely.
The messenger teaches us thisplane is not a secret.
It can be seen twice a week.
There have been so manysightings of it.
It's ridiculous.
It's no longer a question andit hasn't really been a question
for decades.
There is no question of thisplane's existence.
Too many people have seen it.
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There are too many eyewitnessdescriptions of it.
They all match each other andthe devil does not want us to
know that what the messengerteaches us is the truth.
Why would he admit that whatthe nation of Islam teaches is
the truth?
So he refers to them asunidentified flying objects or
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unidentified aerial phenomena.
He makes it mysterious, andI'll give you another proof.
I don't say it will be accepted, but I'll give you another
proof.
Whenever the white man istalking about ancient
civilization, advancedcivilization in the past,
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civilization, that beats hismeaning.
When you look back in history,you don't find him as advanced
in civilization as thisparticular civilization that
he's talking about.
Have you ever noticed?
He always describes them as amysterious people.
Yes, think about it.
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He always says that it was amysterious people, and then he
always says that it's also amystery as to how and why that
civilization disappeared.
You can tell that it's a Blackcivilization as soon as he
starts mystifying it.
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If it was a white civilization,he comes right out and gives
you all the details of it, butwhen he finds an ancient
civilization advanced beyond hisown, he always mystifies it.
Well, now we have planes thatare built with a technology from
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an advanced civilization, andso what does he do when he
describes them?
He mystifies them.
But there are so manyeyewitness testimonies to both
the larger plane and the smallerplanes.
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I mean people from the devil'smilitary.
Some of his best educated andbest trained pilots have given
eyewitness testimony to theseplanes and described them in
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some detail.
So again, there's no doubt thatthese planes exist, but they
are not from outer space.
There are no aliens flyingthese planes.
These planes are flown by yourbrothers and mine.
They are pilots that aretrained from the age of six.
That's when they start.
They train from the age of sixto fly these planes.
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Now who thinks I'm saying to you, six-year-old kids are flying
planes.
I'm saying that their trainingto fly the planes begins at the
age of six.
That's all I'm saying, not thatthey're flying unidentified
objects in the sky when they'resix years old.
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That's not what I'm saying atall.
I'm saying their trainingbegins at the age of six.
If you're doing something ofgreat significance and import,
it's not something that you canstart at the age of 20 and be
doing at the age of 21.
We got to start you early.
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This is why your best boxers,your best wrestlers, your best
martial artists, you starttraining them as children.
I used to box and I also used towrestle, and I never could make
a lot of headway in on eitherof the teams the boxing team or
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the wrestling team becauseeverybody I was competing
against have been boxing sincethey were in the wombs of their
mothers.
Almost you can't start late andthink you're going to reach a
level of proficiency as thosethat started when they were very
, very, very, very young in age,and so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Exactly yeah.
Yeah, I was getting ready tosay I started martial arts when
I was nine.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
See.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And like now, I'm 44 and I'm still able to move
really smooth and you know, withspeed, you know people talk
about over 40, you start slowingdown.
I feel like I don't.
I don't feel like it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know what I mean yes, sir, now, and I'll say this
, someone who just joined, uh, amartial arts uh, what do you
call a school?
Someone who just startedstudying martial arts at the age
of 40 and now they're 44, theycan't even say hi to you, they
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can't even say martial arts toyou, because you started at nine
.
Someone who starts at nine to44, that's 33 years.
Someone who starts at, say, 9to 44 that's 33 years.
Someone who starts at 20 and atthe age of 53, is still not
going to be as good as you,right, because you started at
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nine, right?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
yep, I understand movement and like kinesiology in
general, and, oh, absolutely so.
Uh, you know, and then my bodyis just like what do you call
lack of better term primed forfor for movement, like moving in
multi-planar directions, andyou know, and my whole my brain
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is just different.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Exactly, exactly.
Well, these young men aretrained from the age of six.
What they are taught at six,and then at seven, and then at
eight, nine, and when they gofrom this to that, I don't know.
The messenger didn't teach us,but their training starts at the
age of six.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Now, where do they train?
And is that still going on now?
And who are these?
Uh, um, asiatics or africanpeople, however you want to put
it.
When it comes to our people,when I'm talking to our people,
I, like you, don't know whichname to give.
Give them black, give them more, give them African-American.
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What are we giving?
So what are these brothers andsisters?
Is that still going on now?
Where is the training based?
And you know, can you give memore context there?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
No further details are available, nor would it be
wise for there to be furtherdetails available.
If the white man knew wherethey were training, he'd bomb it
If the white.
The white man desires to attackthese planes as we speak, the
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only reason he hasn't launchedan attack against any of these
planes is because he can't do so.
They fly at speeds and theyhave maneuverability that does
not allow the white man toattack them, and this is what
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scares him.
They are so fast and somaneuverable that they are able
to do flights over the whiteman's most sensitive military
installations and there'snothing he can do about it.
The white man reports thatthese planes hover over, fly
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over his most sensitive militaryinstallations, and he can't as
much as shoot a spit ball atthem.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay, so you're saying that these are our people
.
You can't give any informationabout where they train and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Oh, absolutely not.
If I could, the white man wouldknow and he would attack them.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Okay, so would you say that these, these planes
existed during ancient times andthat's what possibly help build
the pyramids?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
The pyramids have nothing to do with these planes,
but the plane and itstechnology is not new.
The Most Honorable ElijahMuhammad teaches us that these
same planes are the types ofplanes that were used to bring
up mountains on the earth.
So it's not a brand newtechnology by any stretch of the
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imagination.
And again, let's just go backto the very, very first thing
that we learn.
Well, some of us don't learnthat first.
Some of us get math andalphabets first, but the student
enrollment.
Who is the original man?
The original man is the Asiaticblack man, the what Maker.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
The maker, the maker.
Yep, mm, hmm, the maker, themaker.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yep, ok, we don't need to go to anything else.
The maker of what?
The earth, the planet Earth.
We're talking about a peoplewho have science that brought
the sun into existence, thatbrought the moon into existence.
We are the makers of the earthand the universe.
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How much more easy is it tomake a plane we literally
created, brought into existence?
Lesson number one, number nineplanets are something grown or
made from the beginning.
Well, who grew them?
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Who made them?
That would be us.
So if we grow and or make asphere, we call this sphere
Earth.
It weighs six sextillion tons.
I mean, just check the science.
Here's a ball of liquid, solidand gas that weighs six
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sextillion tons.
It's 24,896 miles around.
Miles around.
It's spinning, spinning so fastthat it's spinning at the rate
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of 1,037 and a third miles perhour, while it's flying through
space at 67,000 miles per hour.
You want to talk aboutengineering, you want to talk
about aeronautic technology, andwhile it's doing all of that,
it's producing life Billions ofhuman beings, untold billions of
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animals, insects, water life.
It's an ecosystem.
It's doing all of that whilespinning at 1,037 and a third,
flying at 67,000 miles per hour,tilting in and out so that all
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areas of it, get the properamount of sunshine and seasons.
It's a.
It's an indescribable miracleof engineering.
So if you can do that andthat's just one planet, what
about the other eight?
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What about the billions ofstars that we put out there in
space?
If you can do all of that, it'seasy to build a plane that's.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
That's no problem right right now, that which
which you just built on is isactually a whole another lecture
actually.
Uh, because you know, being amaking, an owner, creamer,
planet earth, father,civilization and god in the
universe, people look at thatdegree and they just go making
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it of your own universe, yourfamily, and you know they don't
look at it like literally.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
And I think it's because they're probably
misinformed or they don'tunderstand the power within
themselves.
Right, they can't fathom.
How can we create this?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Exactly, yeah, exactly, but we did, and there's
no evidence that we didn't.
There's no evidence anyone elsedid.
We have no idea who and what weare, because the white man has
reduced us to such a low level.
We just can't see ourselves inthat exalted state, just can't
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see ourselves in that exaltedstate.
We see the white man in anexalted state, though, and I
just don't understand.
Well, I really do, but yeah, Ido, yeah, I, I really do, I.
I wish I would stop saying that, but it just, it's all in the
lessons.
It's aggravating as hell,brother.
I mean, you see the white mansending vehicles so far out into
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space that he's exploring.
How far has he gotten now?
Hasn't he gotten as far asSaturn, maybe beyond Saturn?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I'm not sure, but I know.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I mean, he's gotten way out there.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
And he's just the white man out there.
Yeah, and he's just the whiteman.
And we somehow think that wehave been here so many more
millions of years than he is andall we've ever done is pick
berries and build mud huts,until the white man just woke up
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and did all of these wonderful,technologically advanced things
Anything the white man has beenable to do and keep in mind.
The white man's technologicaladvances experienced an extreme
explosion After the mosthonorable Elijah Muhammad was
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arrested and they got all thatsupreme wisdom from him.
They learned a lot from theliterature that they took from
the Most Honorable ElijahMuhammad in 1942.
And if you look at theirtechnological advancement pre-42
compared to post-42, you'll seethat there was an absolute
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explosion.
And so for us to believe thatthe white man has achieved all
that he has achieved in just6,000 years, if we give his
whole time on the planet.
And yet we've been heremillions of years.
Even the white man says we'vebeen here millions of years,
we've been here millions ofyears and think we never did
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anything.
The white man can't build apyramid today, brother.
The white man can't build apyramid today.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
He doesn't know how so now, as far as the nation of
Islam, how is it taught themother plane, ufos and aliens,
you know, let's say you knowthat doesn't belong to the
faction that you belong to, forlack of a better term faction,
the faction that you belong to,for lack of a better term
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faction, the faction that youbelong to, like as far as, like
you know, farrakhan and thingslike that, did they leave the
get rid of these teachings, or?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I have been gone from Farrakhan's organization for so
long that I assume that theystill teach the same thing about
the mother plane.
But I can't say for certain.
I assume they do, especiallysince Farrakhan has been
teaching for so many years.
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The plane follows him around toprotect him, which is
ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Oh, he said the plane follows him around to protect
him, which is ridiculous.
Oh, he said the plane followshim around to protect him, which
is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
It's beyond absurd.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And he taught that when you were around there.
Yes, Okay.
So now as far as the motherplane, what is taught to the
Nation of Islam that this motherplane is going to pull us into
the plane at some point anddestroy Earth?
How is it taught?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I have no teaching that the mother plane is going
to pull us anywhere.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
The mother plane the messenger teaches was built not
for the purpose of taking us oncruises.
It wasn't built as a passengerplane, but it was built for the
purpose of destroying this world.
Now we do have to be taken to azone of safety, but the only
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teaching I know of as far asbeing taken to this zone of
safety is a teaching that dealswith us being on the ground.
There'll be men on each cornerand they'll be directing us
which direction to go in.
They'll ask us who are you with, and if you say you with the
devils, they'll escort you thisway.
If you say you with the Muslims, they're going to escort you
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another way and you'll be takento a zone of safety.
But as far as being beamed uplike Scotty no, I know of no
such teaching as that at allOkay and the teachings?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
they don't mention anything about aliens at all.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
No, not at all.
Now, the teaching does mentionthat there is life on other
planets, but as far as aliensfrom other planets visiting this
planet, no sir, absolutely not.
No one can survive on any otherplanet than the planet that
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produces them.
You can't eat anything onanother planet.
It will kill you.
You can't drink anything onanother planet.
It will kill you.
You can't even breathe theatmosphere on another planet.
It will kill you.
You can't survive without thatthat comes from the planet that
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produced you.
You can't.
These other planets are intheir own sphere, they're in
their own lane and that's theway it has to happen.
You know, interplanetary alieninvasions and integration and
all of that.
That's like trying to put blackants in the same mound with red
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ants.
It just can't happen, okaygotcha now.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Um, for the rest of the podcast today I want to talk
about Master Farah Muhammad.
It's just like the lessons WDFarah Muhammad.
You know, master Farah Muhammadand Honorable Elijah Muhammad,
when you brothers talk about,they're not dead, they're still
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alive, and things like that.
Can you explain that?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yes, the best way to explain it is to take it from
the supreme wisdom.
Now the one to 40.
To 40.
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Nostradamus, lesson number twowho made Holy Quran or Bible?
How long ago Will you tell us?
Why does Islam renew ourhistory every 25,000 years?
Right, the Holy Quran or Bibleis made by the original people.
Who is Allah, the Supreme being?
The Black man from Asia?
Right, it goes on further tosay that the Black man makes
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history to equal his homecircumference, which is
approximately 25,000 miles Nowwe know that the history that we
write of the Black nation iswritten in advance.
We don't make history.
And then, after 25,000 yearsNow, and it gets so detailed
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that we even know in advance thename of any great and
significant individual who'sgonna do something in that
history.
So the knowledge of socialengineering I'm just using that
term, okay, the knowledge ofsocial science I'll use that
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term being able to predict whata society is going to do, our
knowledge of that is so advancedthat we can tell you what's
going to happen for the next25,000 years.
Now there's a point to all ofthis.
Now, this history, the truth ofit, you can find it in the Bible
(44:07):
, you can find it in the HolyQuran, but it's written in
symbolic language, and thereason that that becomes
significant is you can't makethe scientists' writings of
history lies.
(44:29):
They don't write lies, lies,they don't write lies.
The mathematics that they useto make their predictions is
impeccable, and so whatever theysay is going to happen, trust
and believe it is going tohappen, because the mathematical
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calculations that predict itare right and exact.
It says that in the lesson, too, right, the nation of Islam is
all wise and does everythingright and exact.
And so to understand thehistory of Master Farad Muhammad
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, to understand the history ofthe most honorable Elijah
Muhammad, you must go to thewritings of the scientists who
saw the messenger and saw MasterFarad Muhammad thousands of
years before they were even born, and wrote what they would do,
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when they would do it, how theywould do it, wrote their
beginning and end so to speak.
That is Now.
There is nothing in thescripture of the Bible or of the
Holy Quran that points toeither one of them being dead,
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nothing.
There is much in both Bible andHoly Quran that is yet to be
fulfilled, not just by one, butby both.
And so if either one of them isdead or both of them are dead
and all has not yet beenfulfilled, then why are we
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calling lesson number twosupreme wisdom?
For what?
Why are we calling the blackman all wise?
Why are we saying we doeverything right and exact when
we wrote a history of what thesemen would do and then they died
before they did it?
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Cut it out.
Either you accept the supremewisdom as true or you don't.
You can't have it both ways.
You just can't have it bothways.
Elijah Muhammad has not doneall that the scientists wrote he
would do.
Master Farad Muhammad has notdone all that the scientists
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wrote that he would do.
Now they wrote lies.
Or there is more for them to do, and if they're dead they can't
do it, or they are still aliveand will yet do it.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
OK, can you explain what the scientists described
they would do?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
First and foremost they would, or Master Farad
Mohammed, through the mosthonorable bully, elijah Muhammad
, would bring down America.
The messenger said.
You must remember it was notJehovah that destroyed Pharaoh,
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he made Moses to do it.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
And so, like Brother Minister Kevin Ali, who taught
today was mentioning we aregiven the history of Elijah
Muhammad as if it was Moses4,000 years ago.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
We are given the history of Master Farad Muhammad
as if it was some some spooknamed Jehovah 4,000 years ago.
When you're reading about Moses, you are literally reading
about Elijah Muhammad.
When you are reading aboutJehovah, you are literally
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reading about Master FaradMuhammad.
And so what the Bible saysJehovah did is really what Farad
would do.
What the Bible says Moses didis really what Elijah Muhammad
would do, and this is what wemust understand.
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So if Moses was made by Jehovahto be the one to destroy
Pharaoh, that means ElijahMuhammad is the one that will
destroy America, and not MasterFarad Muhammad.
Now, language let's not gethooked up on language.
The most honorable ElijahMuhammad can't do nothing
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without Master Farad Muhammad.
Whatever the most honorableElijah Muhammad can't do nothing
without Master Farad Muhammad.
Whatever the most honorableElijah Muhammad does, is really
Master Farad Muhammad doing itthrough him.
Understand.
So Moses is the one thatbrought Pharaoh down, not
Jehovah.
That means that Elijah would bethe one to bring America down
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and not Master Farad Muhammad.
Also, master Farad Muhammad isthe God who would bring about
that universal government ofpeace wherein we all can live in
peace together.
Well, where's that government?
We don't have that yet Nobody'sliving in peace right now, and
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so there's still yet work to do.
There is guidance that ispredicted in the Bible and also
in the Quran that will come inthese last days to guide the
people in the new world.
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The Bible will not be the bookof guidance in the hereafter.
The Holy Quran that we havepresently will not be the book
of guidance for the hereafter,and that's why, with respect to
that guidance that will come, itsays no eye has seen, no ear
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has heard, nor has heart beenable to conceive.
And so the messenger teaches us,in message to the black man,
that there's two other bookscoming, one for us and one for
the Orthodox Muslim world.
Well, if they're both dead,where are these books coming
from?
What they do, give them tosomebody, what they died and
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left them in their will, andwhoever they left it to in their
will, is going to come andbring these books and lead us.
Cut it out.
Bottom line.
There is too much to be donethat the scientists wrote those
two men would do.
If they don't do it, then wemust stop talking about the
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supreme wisdom in the terms thatwe talk about it, because it
ain't right, it ain't exactabout it, because it ain't right
.
It ain't exact, and so we must,we must, we.
Maybe we're pretty wise, but wesure as hell ain't all wise.
So I choose to stick to thesupreme wisdom, being just that
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supreme with respect to wisdom.
So whatever that wisdom saysabout Elijah Muhammad, that's
what I stick to.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Whatever that wisdom says about Master Farad Muhammad
, that's what I stick to okay,now, in the Moorish paradigm, or
the Moorish world, if you will,uh Mos, especially like uh
people, like you know, high intheir studies, they talk about
the reincarnation, or thetransfer, the transformation of,
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uh, the same spirits, so tospeak.
So if you were here, oh, youdidn't know that, oh, ok, ok.
So I'm thinking that it'spretty much the same concept
with when we talk about inrespect to Master Farah Muhammad
and Elijah Muhammad, andreincarnating again through
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another person.
Is that, is that the concept?
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Absolutely not.
Let's let's look at what themost honorable Elijah Muhammad
teaches us.
The spirit is not independentof the flesh.
It is the flesh that producesthe spirit.
No two fleshes are exactly thesame, are exactly the same, you
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know.
That's why you got fingerprints, DNA, various things like that.
No two snowflakes are the same.
You know.
There's diversity in everythingin creation.
The point that I'm making toyou is this no one human being
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whose flesh produces spirit canhave that same spirit that his
flesh produces, produced byanother flesh of another human
being.
Therefore, reincarnation isabsolutely impossible.
You can't be reincarnated insomeone else because another
human being has a specificallyunique flesh that is going to
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produce a specifically uniquespirit right now, paul, I'm
going to cut you.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
but when you say in my mind is almost the same
concept, when you speak on, whenyou say Moses is pretty much
Elijah, no, I'm not saying thatthe Moses of 4000 years ago is
Elijah Muhammad.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Today is written as the Moses of 4,000 years ago is
really talking about ElijahMuhammad.
Not that Moses has beenreincarnated into the messenger,
not that, nothing like that.
I'm saying that when ElijahMuhammad's history is written in
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the Bible, it's not written asElijah Muhammad from
Sandersville, georgia, it'swritten as Moses from Egypt.
I'm saying, when the Bible istalking about Master Farad
Muhammad, it doesn't talk aboutMaster Farad Muhammad as Farad
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Muhammad.
Farad Muhammad as FaradMuhammad.
Mecca, arabia, 1930.
He's talked about, but he'stalked about as Jehovah in Egypt
.
Okay, gotcha, so a futureperson is described by using a
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past person to describe them.
But the two persons, past andfuture, are two absolutely
different people.
But you can use one person.
You understand what I'm saying.
Like the movie Malcolm X,everybody comes on and says,
yeah, I am Malcolm X, you know,you think so, and so is going to
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be the next Malcolm X.
It doesn't mean that they'regoing to be a reincarnation of
Malcolm X.
What it means is they're goingto be a person of the same
spirit of revolution as Malcolm.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Right, well, actually that's what the moorish science
teaches, okay, so just just tojust to clarify, uh, and I think
they, uh, the moors, also talkabout a reincarnation, depending
on who you're talking talkingto as well.
Uh, so yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
That's the indians teaching, bleeding in.
They're getting too close tothe ind.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
So you know, I think, the nexttime we build I think you need
about an hour and a half, Idon't know if you have time for
that, just let me know.
Okay, okay.
Well, that wraps it up todayTonight's discussion.
I really appreciate you comingon and clarifying some things.
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I want to expound on some othersubjects next time you come up.
I have a lot of questions.
I'm reading, I'm building andyou know I want to get into
supreme wisdom a little bit nexttime.
All right.
Thank you for coming out thisevening.
I really appreciate you,minister Eric Muhammad.
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Right, thank you for coming outthis evening.
I really appreciate you,minister Eric Muhammad, thanks
for everyone in the chat.
Thanks for any viewers on nowand later.
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Thank you for coming out thisevening.
Eric Muhammad, minister EricMuhammad, you've been on the
show quite some time.
I really appreciate yoursupport.
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You're like the star of thisshow here.
Whenever you come on, peoplewant to hear what Minister Eric
Muhammad has to say.
So here we have him.
We have him today to talk abouta few things, things that I
don't quite understand, aboutthe teachings of the Nation of
Islam, and you know I want toyou know, talk about him.
I want to first start off withWD Farad and his contribution to
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the Nation of Islam.
Did he create the teachings?
What do you know about him andhis mysterious?
He has a mystique about him andthere aren't many pictures of
him and his history is kind ofmysterious.
Can you break down what youknow about his history, peace
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have been peace.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
As far as Master Farad Muhammad's history, there
is very, very clear and very,very clear and very, very
detailed history of Master FaradMuhammad.
That is from himself, throughhis messenger, the most
honorable Elijah Muhammad.
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But whenever his history isspoken of, it's always spoken of
in terms of the words that youuse mystique, mysterious and so
forth.
This is because the history ofMaster Farad Muhammad that is in
the Bible and in the Holy Quranand in the detailed teaching of
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that history from himselfthrough the Most Honorable
Elijah Muhammad, is not acceptedas history.
It's viewed as mythology, it'sviewed as something made up.
One of the things that peoplewho disbelieve in the teachings
of the Most Honorable ElijahMuhammad like to say is well,
(03:01):
that's your religious beliefsystem.
A man tells us of his historyand he gives it to us in
significant detail and he pointsit out to us in the Bible and
in the Holy Quran.
And because we don't want toaccept it, we invent another
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history that is not detailed,that does not have clarity, and
we call the invented historyfrom ourselves mystery, mystique
, mysterious.
Master Farad Muhammad gave ushis history.
There's a book that has beenput together by Messenger Elijah
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Muhammad, propagation Society,mips, and the title of that book
is the True History of MasterFarad Muhammad.
A whole book on it, and yetwe're saying it's mysterious.
We're saying it's mysteriousbecause we don't want to accept
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the history that has been taughtto us.
Master Farad Muhammad is not amystery man.
Master Farad Muhammad was not amodel, so he didn't come here
to do photo shoots.
You know what I mean.
There's no photo album ofMaster Farad Muhammad.
He didn't come here to do photoshoots.
You know what I mean.
There's no photo album ofMaster Farad Muhammad.
He didn't come here to make aphoto album.
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Master Farad Muhammad came hereto raise the black man from
death to life, and so, yes, weonly have one picture of him.
We didn't even need that one.
Yes, we only have one pictureof him.
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We didn't even need that one.
Bottom line is Master FaradMuhammad, as the most honorable
Elijah Muhammad teaches us, wasborn in was a white woman.
His father was going to havehim to come to search for us and
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to do a work among us, and sohe went up into the hills the
messenger teaches us to get awhite woman to prepare her to
give birth to his son so that hewould look something like the
white man, because he wouldn'tbe able to be successful in a
solid white country if he cameas a solid black man.
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The messenger also teaches usthat in order for him to give
justice to both peoples, blackand white, he had to be made
part of both black and white.
And so you find Master FaradMuhammad's history again in both
the Bible and in the Holy Quran.
Master Farad Muhammad isprophesied in both books, by
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several of the prophets of theBible and also by prophet
Muhammad in the Holy Quran.
There's much more that could besaid, but that would be a
lecture and we only have an hour.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Right, indeed, indeed .
So as far as his, his history,can you just give me a brief
history Like where is he from,uh, and where did he like, did
he pass on that whole thing?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
OK, Master Farad Mohammed was born in Mecca,
arabia, on February the 26th1877.
Like I said, he was speciallyprepared to do the work among us
that has resulted in thesupreme wisdom among us.
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When Master Farad Muhammad wasonly six years old, he saw
himself pushing the DuPonts andthe DuPonts and the Kennedys, or
the DuPont's and theRothschild's, whoever were the
real rich of that particulartime.
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There's two families that arementioned and I know one of them
was the DuPont's, but the otherI can't remember exactly.
But he saw himself at the ageof six pushing these two very
rich families into a lake offire.
And these two very richfamilies really represent the
wealth and power of the whiterace.
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It's not just those twofamilies.
All right.
Now, when he was a young boy,his father would take him to buy
, as the messenger said inSavior's Day 1973 lecture, he
would buy him words of wisdomfrom this great one and that
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great one and he would pay highprices for it to give to his son
, to his son and as he said inthe God tribe of Shabazz, if you
put that in YouTube, thatlecture will come up.
As it says in the God tribe ofShabazz, we know those of us,
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who have supreme wisdom, thathistory is written every 25,000
years.
Yes, sir, the Most HonorableElijah Muhammad teaches us,
whenever our history lasts for25,000 years, what has
transpired is put away in a bookin a vault in Mecca, and no one
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is able to get access to thatbook unless, as they say, he's a
wonder man.
The most honorable ElijahMuhammad said he used those
words unless he's a wonder manwho is going to bring about a
universal change in civilization.
The point that I'm making isthis we are taught that no God
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coming after a previous God isable to pattern his new
civilization after the wisdom ofthe previous God, and so if you
are the God of one cycle, youdon't get to peep into the
25,000 year cycle of what wasdone before you, unless you are
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someone who is to bring about auniversal change in civilization
.
The point I'm making with thatis Master Farad Muhammad, unlike
most gods, was given access tothat vault and to the cycles
previous to the present cyclethat we are living in now.
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The messenger teaches thatMaster Farad Muhammad could
recite by heart the history ofthe Black Nation 150,000 years.
That's six Qurans and thetypical average.
God only knows his own cycle.
You follow me?
(10:15):
Yes, sir.
And so Master Farad Muhammad isunlike most of the gods who have
come before him, unlike most ofthe gods who have come before
him, and he is the greatest andthe wisest of all of the gods
that came before him, because hewas produced by the longing in
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us to produce a God from us whowould do two things One who
would be greater in wisdom andbe able to remove the
civilization of Yaqub, but two,to perfect the creation that the
first God brought intoexistence Master Farad Muhammad.
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In his person, we come to thehead of everything, and this is
why he's called the everlastingfather and this is why none of
the scientists could see intothe civilization that he would
bring into existence.
And so their writings in Bibleand Quran take us up to the end
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of Yaqub's world and a smallglimpse into the new world that
will be brought in by MasterFarad Muhammad, but not into it
in any depth because they, likethe scripture says, no eye has
seen, no ear has heard, nor hasheart been able to conceive.
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So, master Farad Muhammad,being born in Mecca and being
the greatest and the wisest ofall the gods that came before
him, having the power to removethe white man's world, yaqub's
world, and bring in a new world.
The white man's world,ya'aqob's world, and bring in a
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new world, wanted to, as thescripture teaches, find that
lost sheep before destroying thewolves, because that lost sheep
is not responsible for theevils and the sins that they
were born and shaped in.
And so Master Farad Muhammadcame to do two things kill the
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white man, save the black man.
Kill the white man, save theblack man.
And, like I say very often in mylectures, the reason I am a
member of the Nation of Islamand a follower of the most
honorable Elijah Muhammad asopposed to being a Moor, as
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opposed to being a Black Panther, as opposed to being a
Garveyism I taste Afrocentricity, I taste Black militants and
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taste all of these Blackconscious ideologies and
philosophies.
And I just happen to like thetaste of the teachings of the
most honorable Elijah Muhammadbest, and so I represent that.
No, the reason I'm with Elijahis because Elijah is with Farad.
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Marcus Garvey can't kill thewhite man.
Noble Drew Ali can't kill thewhite man.
Nobody else can kill the whiteman.
So it's not about whether I likea teaching or dislike a
teaching, because I'm going totell you straight up I like the
teaching of Noble Drew Ali and Ilike the teaching of Marcus
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Garvey and I definitely like theidea of picking up weapons and
killing white folks.
But the bottom line is, MasterFarad Mohammed has the power to
kill the white man and I don'tcare what kind of black teaching
you have, if you can't killwhite folks, what's the use of
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it?
Period, no teaching is going todo anything without killing the
white man.
Yes, sir, you were going to say.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
Yes, this is a question my chat asked, but this
is a question that I had inmind.
So, killing the?
Okay, so, farad, you're sayingWD Farad or Master Farad
Muhammad, has the power to killthe white man.
Okay, so are we talkingfiguratively or are we talking
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literally?
Killing the white manfiguratively, won we talking uh?
Speaker 2 (14:46):
figuratively or are we talking literally?
Killing the white manfiguratively won't solve our
problem.
The white man has to be deadand gone in order for our
problem to be solved.
He's got to go.
The lessons teach it.
The lessons teach it, 39 and 40of the one through 40.
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They teach it.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It's clear oh my God, okay, okay, I was good, you did
it.
You did it already.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
We don't have to go there.
All right to mikey fever.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
I saw you agreeing peace to mikey fever yeah, yeah,
ben, uh, it's uh, yeah, yeah,yeah, we got to talk a bit, uh,
so, um, now, moving on to motherplane, you have so you the
mother plane.
Can you explain the motherplane?
Speaker 2 (15:44):
yes, okay.
Now it's one thing to sayMaster Farad Mohammed has the
power to kill the white man.
It's another thing to be ableto explain how.
If he has the power to kill thewhite man, why does he have the
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power?
How does he have the power?
What is the power he has tokill the white man?
Now we're talking about thatmother plane.
The most honorable ElijahMuhammad teaches us that the
mother plane was built for thepurpose of destroying this world
.
It is a plane, not a ship.
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It's not a spaceship.
It was built right here on theearth, on the island of Nippon.
It was built by black, brown,red and yellow scientists.
Different ones built differentparts of it in isolation from
each other.
None of them knew what theother was building.
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Even those that were buildingit didn't know what they were
building.
They just had the assignment tobuild that particular part of
the plane that they built.
The plane that they built.
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Now it's a plane.
All of this verbiage about spaceno, this is a human built
planet, like a satellite.
It's a human built planet,built right here on the earth,
but it is built with atechnology that is almost
unimaginable.
The technology of this plane.
It's a half mile by a half milesquare.
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It's like an aircraft carrier.
Okay, that flies what I meanwhen I say it's like an aircraft
carrier.
This particular plane, half mileby half mile square, has other
planes that lodge in it, and sothese 1,500 small planes because
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that's the number of the bombsthat they carry are equipped
with drills and timers, and theexplosives of these bombs are
30% more powerful than any bombsthe white man has.
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The white man's bombs use 70%dynamite.
These bombs use 100% dynamite.
They have drills and timers.
The timers are set for thedrills to dig into the earth.
When they hit the earth,they're set to drill one mile
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deep into the earth and whenthey drill one mile, the timer
causes the bomb to explode andit brings up a mountain one mile
high.
So we're talking 1,500 planeswith three bombs each.
That's 4,500 bombs.
Three bombs each, that's 4,500bombs, 100% dynamite.
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All of these bombs, themessenger teaches us, will fall
on land.
None of them will land in water.
Three of the planes will bekept.
So we're talking about threethousand, no, four thousand four
hundred and ninety seven planesTimes three bombs each, all of
them going to be dropped onAmerica, and the other three
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planes using those other ninebombs are going to be dropped on
Europe.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Okay, Now how does this come about?
Like, where can people findthis literature or this
information?
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well, we do have.
There is a book put togethercalled the Mother Plane that
also can be purchased fromMessenger Elijah Muhammad
Propagation Society.
I'll send you the link, okay,okay.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
I think I can put it in here now.
I'm not sure.
I don't want to mess this videoup, so I don't want to start
playing with this laptop.
I'm not a 12-year-old kid, soI'm not as good with this
technology as they are.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Right, right.
So who came up with thisconcept and are there actual
facts of these planes' existence?
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Oh, absolutely.
The messenger teaches us thisplane is not a secret.
It can be seen twice a week.
There have been so manysightings of it.
It's ridiculous.
It's no longer a question andit hasn't really been a question
for decades.
There is no question of thisplane's existence.
Too many people have seen it.
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There are too many eyewitnessdescriptions of it.
They all match each other andthe devil does not want us to
know that what the messengerteaches us is the truth.
Why would he admit that whatthe nation of Islam teaches is
the truth?
So he refers to them asunidentified flying objects or
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unidentified aerial phenomena.
He makes it mysterious, andI'll give you another proof.
I don't say it will be accepted, but I'll give you another
proof.
Whenever the white man istalking about ancient
civilization, advancedcivilization in the past,
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civilization, that beats hismeaning.
When you look back in history,you don't find him as advanced
in civilization as thisparticular civilization that
he's talking about.
Have you ever noticed?
He always describes them as amysterious people.
Yes, think about it.
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He always says that it was amysterious people, and then he
always says that it's also amystery as to how and why that
civilization disappeared.
You can tell that it's a Blackcivilization as soon as he
starts mystifying it.
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If it was a white civilization,he comes right out and gives
you all the details of it, butwhen he finds an ancient
civilization advanced beyond hisown, he always mystifies it.
Well, now we have planes thatare built with a technology from
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an advanced civilization, andso what does he do when he
describes them?
He mystifies them.
But there are so manyeyewitness testimonies to both
the larger plane and the smallerplanes.
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I mean people from the devil'smilitary.
Some of his best educated andbest trained pilots have given
eyewitness testimony to theseplanes and described them in
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some detail.
So again, there's no doubt thatthese planes exist, but they
are not from outer space.
There are no aliens flyingthese planes.
These planes are flown by yourbrothers and mine.
They are pilots that aretrained from the age of six.
That's when they start.
They train from the age of sixto fly these planes.
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Now who thinks I'm saying to you, six-year-old kids are flying
planes.
I'm saying that their trainingto fly the planes begins at the
age of six.
That's all I'm saying, not thatthey're flying unidentified
objects in the sky when they'resix years old.
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That's not what I'm saying atall.
I'm saying their trainingbegins at the age of six.
If you're doing something ofgreat significance and import,
it's not something that you canstart at the age of 20 and be
doing at the age of 21.
We got to start you early.
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This is why your best boxers,your best wrestlers, your best
martial artists, you starttraining them as children.
I used to box and I also used towrestle, and I never could make
a lot of headway in on eitherof the teams the boxing team or
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the wrestling team becauseeverybody I was competing
against have been boxing sincethey were in the wombs of their
mothers.
Almost you can't start late andthink you're going to reach a
level of proficiency as thosethat started when they were very
, very, very, very young in age,and so go ahead.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Exactly yeah.
Yeah, I was getting ready tosay I started martial arts when
I was nine.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
See.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
And like now, I'm 44 and I'm still able to move
really smooth and you know, withspeed, you know people talk
about over 40, you start slowingdown.
I feel like I don't.
I don't feel like it.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
You know what I mean yes, sir, now, and I'll say this
, someone who just joined, uh, amartial arts uh, what do you
call a school?
Someone who just startedstudying martial arts at the age
of 40 and now they're 44, theycan't even say hi to you, they
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can't even say martial arts toyou, because you started at nine
.
Someone who starts at nine to44, that's 33 years.
Someone who starts at, say, 9to 44 that's 33 years.
Someone who starts at 20 and atthe age of 53, is still not
going to be as good as you,right, because you started at
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nine, right?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
yep, I understand movement and like kinesiology in
general, and, oh, absolutely so.
Uh, you know, and then my bodyis just like what do you call
lack of better term primed forfor for movement, like moving in
multi-planar directions, andyou know, and my whole my brain
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is just different.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
Exactly, exactly.
Well, these young men aretrained from the age of six.
What they are taught at six,and then at seven, and then at
eight, nine, and when they gofrom this to that, I don't know.
The messenger didn't teach us,but their training starts at the
age of six.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Now, where do they train?
And is that still going on now?
And who are these?
Uh, um, asiatics or africanpeople, however you want to put
it.
When it comes to our people,when I'm talking to our people,
I, like you, don't know whichname to give.
Give them black, give them more, give them African-American.
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What are we giving?
So what are these brothers andsisters?
Is that still going on now?
Where is the training based?
And you know, can you give memore context there?
Speaker 2 (28:19):
No further details are available, nor would it be
wise for there to be furtherdetails available.
If the white man knew wherethey were training, he'd bomb it
If the white.
The white man desires to attackthese planes as we speak, the
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only reason he hasn't launchedan attack against any of these
planes is because he can't do so.
They fly at speeds and theyhave maneuverability that does
not allow the white man toattack them, and this is what
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scares him.
They are so fast and somaneuverable that they are able
to do flights over the whiteman's most sensitive military
installations and there'snothing he can do about it.
The white man reports thatthese planes hover over, fly
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over his most sensitive militaryinstallations, and he can't as
much as shoot a spit ball atthem.
Speaker 1 (29:42):
Okay, so you're saying that these are our people
.
You can't give any informationabout where they train and
things like that.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Oh, absolutely not.
If I could, the white man wouldknow and he would attack them.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Okay, so would you say that these, these planes
existed during ancient times andthat's what possibly help build
the pyramids?
Speaker 2 (30:13):
The pyramids have nothing to do with these planes,
but the plane and itstechnology is not new.
The Most Honorable ElijahMuhammad teaches us that these
same planes are the types ofplanes that were used to bring
up mountains on the earth.
So it's not a brand newtechnology by any stretch of the
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imagination.
And again, let's just go backto the very, very first thing
that we learn.
Well, some of us don't learnthat first.
Some of us get math andalphabets first, but the student
enrollment.
Who is the original man?
The original man is the Asiaticblack man, the what Maker.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
The maker, the maker.
Yep, mm, hmm, the maker, themaker.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yep, ok, we don't need to go to anything else.
The maker of what?
The earth, the planet Earth.
We're talking about a peoplewho have science that brought
the sun into existence, thatbrought the moon into existence.
We are the makers of the earthand the universe.
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How much more easy is it tomake a plane we literally
created, brought into existence?
Lesson number one, number nineplanets are something grown or
made from the beginning.
Well, who grew them?
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Who made them?
That would be us.
So if we grow and or make asphere, we call this sphere
Earth.
It weighs six sextillion tons.
I mean, just check the science.
Here's a ball of liquid, solidand gas that weighs six
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sextillion tons.
It's 24,896 miles around.
Miles around.
It's spinning, spinning so fastthat it's spinning at the rate
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of 1,037 and a third miles perhour, while it's flying through
space at 67,000 miles per hour.
You want to talk aboutengineering, you want to talk
about aeronautic technology, andwhile it's doing all of that,
it's producing life Billions ofhuman beings, untold billions of
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animals, insects, water life.
It's an ecosystem.
It's doing all of that whilespinning at 1,037 and a third,
flying at 67,000 miles per hour,tilting in and out so that all
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areas of it, get the properamount of sunshine and seasons.
It's a.
It's an indescribable miracleof engineering.
So if you can do that andthat's just one planet, what
about the other eight?
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What about the billions ofstars that we put out there in
space?
If you can do all of that, it'seasy to build a plane that's.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
That's no problem right right now, that which
which you just built on is isactually a whole another lecture
actually.
Uh, because you know, being amaking, an owner, creamer,
planet earth, father,civilization and god in the
universe, people look at thatdegree and they just go making
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it of your own universe, yourfamily, and you know they don't
look at it like literally.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
And I think it's because they're probably
misinformed or they don'tunderstand the power within
themselves.
Right, they can't fathom.
How can we create this?
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Exactly, yeah, exactly, but we did, and there's
no evidence that we didn't.
There's no evidence anyone elsedid.
We have no idea who and what weare, because the white man has
reduced us to such a low level.
We just can't see ourselves inthat exalted state, just can't
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see ourselves in that exaltedstate.
We see the white man in anexalted state, though, and I
just don't understand.
Well, I really do, but yeah, Ido, yeah, I, I really do, I.
I wish I would stop saying that, but it just, it's all in the
lessons.
It's aggravating as hell,brother.
I mean, you see the white mansending vehicles so far out into
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space that he's exploring.
How far has he gotten now?
Hasn't he gotten as far asSaturn, maybe beyond Saturn?
Speaker 1 (35:34):
I'm not sure, but I know.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I mean, he's gotten way out there.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
And he's just the white man out there.
Yeah, and he's just the whiteman.
And we somehow think that wehave been here so many more
millions of years than he is andall we've ever done is pick
berries and build mud huts,until the white man just woke up
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and did all of these wonderful,technologically advanced things
Anything the white man has beenable to do and keep in mind.
The white man's technologicaladvances experienced an extreme
explosion After the mosthonorable Elijah Muhammad was
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arrested and they got all thatsupreme wisdom from him.
They learned a lot from theliterature that they took from
the Most Honorable ElijahMuhammad in 1942.
And if you look at theirtechnological advancement pre-42
compared to post-42, you'll seethat there was an absolute
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explosion.
And so for us to believe thatthe white man has achieved all
that he has achieved in just6,000 years, if we give his
whole time on the planet.
And yet we've been heremillions of years.
Even the white man says we'vebeen here millions of years,
we've been here millions ofyears and think we never did
(37:08):
anything.
The white man can't build apyramid today, brother.
The white man can't build apyramid today.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
He doesn't know how so now, as far as the nation of
Islam, how is it taught themother plane, ufos and aliens,
you know, let's say you knowthat doesn't belong to the
faction that you belong to, forlack of a better term faction,
the faction that you belong to,for lack of a better term
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faction, the faction that youbelong to, like as far as, like
you know, farrakhan and thingslike that, did they leave the
get rid of these teachings, or?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
I have been gone from Farrakhan's organization for so
long that I assume that theystill teach the same thing about
the mother plane.
But I can't say for certain.
I assume they do, especiallysince Farrakhan has been
teaching for so many years.
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The plane follows him around toprotect him, which is
ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Oh, he said the plane follows him around to protect
him, which is ridiculous.
Oh, he said the plane followshim around to protect him, which
is ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
It's beyond absurd.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And he taught that when you were around there.
Yes, Okay.
So now as far as the motherplane, what is taught to the
Nation of Islam that this motherplane is going to pull us into
the plane at some point anddestroy Earth?
How is it taught?
Speaker 2 (38:53):
I have no teaching that the mother plane is going
to pull us anywhere.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
The mother plane the messenger teaches was built not
for the purpose of taking us oncruises.
It wasn't built as a passengerplane, but it was built for the
purpose of destroying this world.
Now we do have to be taken to azone of safety, but the only
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teaching I know of as far asbeing taken to this zone of
safety is a teaching that dealswith us being on the ground.
There'll be men on each cornerand they'll be directing us
which direction to go in.
They'll ask us who are you with, and if you say you with the
devils, they'll escort you thisway.
If you say you with the Muslims, they're going to escort you
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another way and you'll be takento a zone of safety.
But as far as being beamed uplike Scotty no, I know of no
such teaching as that at allOkay and the teachings?
Speaker 1 (40:05):
they don't mention anything about aliens at all.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
No, not at all.
Now, the teaching does mentionthat there is life on other
planets, but as far as aliensfrom other planets visiting this
planet, no sir, absolutely not.
No one can survive on any otherplanet than the planet that
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produces them.
You can't eat anything onanother planet.
It will kill you.
You can't drink anything onanother planet.
It will kill you.
You can't even breathe theatmosphere on another planet.
It will kill you.
You can't survive without thatthat comes from the planet that
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produced you.
You can't.
These other planets are intheir own sphere, they're in
their own lane and that's theway it has to happen.
You know, interplanetary alieninvasions and integration and
all of that.
That's like trying to put blackants in the same mound with red
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ants.
It just can't happen, okaygotcha now.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Um, for the rest of the podcast today I want to talk
about Master Farah Muhammad.
It's just like the lessons WDFarah Muhammad.
You know, master Farah Muhammadand Honorable Elijah Muhammad,
when you brothers talk about,they're not dead, they're still
(41:51):
alive, and things like that.
Can you explain that?
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Yes, the best way to explain it is to take it from
the supreme wisdom.
Now the one to 40.
To 40.
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Nostradamus, lesson number twowho made Holy Quran or Bible?
How long ago Will you tell us?
Why does Islam renew ourhistory every 25,000 years?
Right, the Holy Quran or Bibleis made by the original people.
Who is Allah, the Supreme being?
The Black man from Asia?
Right, it goes on further tosay that the Black man makes
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history to equal his homecircumference, which is
approximately 25,000 miles Nowwe know that the history that we
write of the Black nation iswritten in advance.
We don't make history.
And then, after 25,000 yearsNow, and it gets so detailed
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that we even know in advance thename of any great and
significant individual who'sgonna do something in that
history.
So the knowledge of socialengineering I'm just using that
term, okay, the knowledge ofsocial science I'll use that
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term being able to predict whata society is going to do, our
knowledge of that is so advancedthat we can tell you what's
going to happen for the next25,000 years.
Now there's a point to all ofthis.
Now, this history, the truth ofit, you can find it in the Bible
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, you can find it in the HolyQuran, but it's written in
symbolic language, and thereason that that becomes
significant is you can't makethe scientists' writings of
history lies.
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They don't write lies, lies,they don't write lies.
The mathematics that they useto make their predictions is
impeccable, and so whatever theysay is going to happen, trust
and believe it is going tohappen, because the mathematical
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calculations that predict itare right and exact.
It says that in the lesson, too, right, the nation of Islam is
all wise and does everythingright and exact.
And so to understand thehistory of Master Farad Muhammad
(45:11):
, to understand the history ofthe most honorable Elijah
Muhammad, you must go to thewritings of the scientists who
saw the messenger and saw MasterFarad Muhammad thousands of
years before they were even born, and wrote what they would do,
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when they would do it, how theywould do it, wrote their
beginning and end so to speak.
That is Now.
There is nothing in thescripture of the Bible or of the
Holy Quran that points toeither one of them being dead,
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nothing.
There is much in both Bible andHoly Quran that is yet to be
fulfilled, not just by one, butby both.
And so if either one of them isdead or both of them are dead
and all has not yet beenfulfilled, then why are we
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calling lesson number twosupreme wisdom?
For what?
Why are we calling the blackman all wise?
Why are we saying we doeverything right and exact when
we wrote a history of what thesemen would do and then they died
before they did it?
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Cut it out.
Either you accept the supremewisdom as true or you don't.
You can't have it both ways.
You just can't have it bothways.
Elijah Muhammad has not doneall that the scientists wrote he
would do.
Master Farad Muhammad has notdone all that the scientists
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wrote that he would do.
Now they wrote lies.
Or there is more for them to do, and if they're dead they can't
do it, or they are still aliveand will yet do it.
Speaker 1 (47:15):
OK, can you explain what the scientists described
they would do?
Speaker 2 (47:23):
First and foremost they would, or Master Farad
Mohammed, through the mosthonorable bully, elijah Muhammad
, would bring down America.
The messenger said.
You must remember it was notJehovah that destroyed Pharaoh,
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he made Moses to do it.
Speaker 1 (48:01):
And so, like Brother Minister Kevin Ali, who taught
today was mentioning we aregiven the history of Elijah
Muhammad as if it was Moses4,000 years ago.
Speaker 2 (48:05):
We are given the history of Master Farad Muhammad
as if it was some some spooknamed Jehovah 4,000 years ago.
When you're reading about Moses, you are literally reading
about Elijah Muhammad.
When you are reading aboutJehovah, you are literally
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reading about Master FaradMuhammad.
And so what the Bible saysJehovah did is really what Farad
would do.
What the Bible says Moses didis really what Elijah Muhammad
would do, and this is what wemust understand.
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So if Moses was made by Jehovahto be the one to destroy
Pharaoh, that means ElijahMuhammad is the one that will
destroy America, and not MasterFarad Muhammad.
Now, language let's not gethooked up on language.
The most honorable ElijahMuhammad can't do nothing
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without Master Farad Muhammad.
Whatever the most honorableElijah Muhammad can't do nothing
without Master Farad Muhammad.
Whatever the most honorableElijah Muhammad does, is really
Master Farad Muhammad doing itthrough him.
Understand.
So Moses is the one thatbrought Pharaoh down, not
Jehovah.
That means that Elijah would bethe one to bring America down
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and not Master Farad Muhammad.
Also, master Farad Muhammad isthe God who would bring about
that universal government ofpeace wherein we all can live in
peace together.
Well, where's that government?
We don't have that yet Nobody'sliving in peace right now, and
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so there's still yet work to do.
There is guidance that ispredicted in the Bible and also
in the Quran that will come inthese last days to guide the
people in the new world.
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The Bible will not be the bookof guidance in the hereafter.
The Holy Quran that we havepresently will not be the book
of guidance for the hereafter,and that's why, with respect to
that guidance that will come, itsays no eye has seen, no ear
(50:38):
has heard, nor has heart beenable to conceive.
And so the messenger teaches us,in message to the black man,
that there's two other bookscoming, one for us and one for
the Orthodox Muslim world.
Well, if they're both dead,where are these books coming
from?
What they do, give them tosomebody, what they died and
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left them in their will, andwhoever they left it to in their
will, is going to come andbring these books and lead us.
Cut it out.
Bottom line.
There is too much to be donethat the scientists wrote those
two men would do.
If they don't do it, then wemust stop talking about the
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supreme wisdom in the terms thatwe talk about it, because it
ain't right, it ain't exactabout it, because it ain't right
.
It ain't exact, and so we must,we must, we.
Maybe we're pretty wise, but wesure as hell ain't all wise.
So I choose to stick to thesupreme wisdom, being just that
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supreme with respect to wisdom.
So whatever that wisdom saysabout Elijah Muhammad, that's
what I stick to.
Speaker 1 (51:58):
Whatever that wisdom says about Master Farad Muhammad
, that's what I stick to okay,now, in the Moorish paradigm, or
the Moorish world, if you will,uh Mos, especially like uh
people, like you know, high intheir studies, they talk about
the reincarnation, or thetransfer, the transformation of,
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uh, the same spirits, so tospeak.
So if you were here, oh, youdidn't know that, oh, ok, ok.
So I'm thinking that it'spretty much the same concept
with when we talk about inrespect to Master Farah Muhammad
and Elijah Muhammad, andreincarnating again through
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another person.
Is that, is that the concept?
Speaker 2 (52:50):
Absolutely not.
Let's let's look at what themost honorable Elijah Muhammad
teaches us.
The spirit is not independentof the flesh.
It is the flesh that producesthe spirit.
No two fleshes are exactly thesame, are exactly the same, you
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know.
That's why you got fingerprints, DNA, various things like that.
No two snowflakes are the same.
You know.
There's diversity in everythingin creation.
The point that I'm making toyou is this no one human being
(53:38):
whose flesh produces spirit canhave that same spirit that his
flesh produces, produced byanother flesh of another human
being.
Therefore, reincarnation isabsolutely impossible.
You can't be reincarnated insomeone else because another
human being has a specificallyunique flesh that is going to
(53:58):
produce a specifically uniquespirit right now, paul, I'm
going to cut you.
Speaker 1 (54:07):
but when you say in my mind is almost the same
concept, when you speak on, whenyou say Moses is pretty much
Elijah, no, I'm not saying thatthe Moses of 4000 years ago is
Elijah Muhammad.
Speaker 2 (54:25):
Today is written as the Moses of 4,000 years ago is
really talking about ElijahMuhammad.
Not that Moses has beenreincarnated into the messenger,
not that, nothing like that.
I'm saying that when ElijahMuhammad's history is written in
(54:50):
the Bible, it's not written asElijah Muhammad from
Sandersville, georgia, it'swritten as Moses from Egypt.
I'm saying, when the Bible istalking about Master Farad
Muhammad, it doesn't talk aboutMaster Farad Muhammad as Farad
(55:10):
Muhammad.
Farad Muhammad as FaradMuhammad.
Mecca, arabia, 1930.
He's talked about, but he'stalked about as Jehovah in Egypt
.
Okay, gotcha, so a futureperson is described by using a
(55:31):
past person to describe them.
But the two persons, past andfuture, are two absolutely
different people.
But you can use one person.
You understand what I'm saying.
Like the movie Malcolm X,everybody comes on and says,
yeah, I am Malcolm X, you know,you think so, and so is going to
(55:54):
be the next Malcolm X.
It doesn't mean that they'regoing to be a reincarnation of
Malcolm X.
What it means is they're goingto be a person of the same
spirit of revolution as Malcolm.
Speaker 1 (56:10):
Right, well, actually that's what the moorish science
teaches, okay, so just just tojust to clarify, uh, and I think
they, uh, the moors, also talkabout a reincarnation, depending
on who you're talking talkingto as well.
Uh, so yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (56:27):
That's the indians teaching, bleeding in.
They're getting too close tothe ind.
Speaker 1 (56:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
So you know, I think, the nexttime we build I think you need
about an hour and a half, Idon't know if you have time for
that, just let me know.
Okay, okay.
Well, that wraps it up todayTonight's discussion.
I really appreciate you comingon and clarifying some things.
(56:52):
I want to expound on some othersubjects next time you come up.
I have a lot of questions.
I'm reading, I'm building andyou know I want to get into
supreme wisdom a little bit nexttime.
All right.
Thank you for coming out thisevening.
I really appreciate you,minister Eric Muhammad.
(57:12):
Right, thank you for coming outthis evening.
I really appreciate you,minister Eric Muhammad, thanks
for everyone in the chat.
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