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Ever wondered why certain thought patterns feel so ingrained despite contradicting your own interests? The 11 Principles of White Supremacy exposes the psychological architecture designed to maintain systems of control through our subconscious minds.

Host Ron Brown welcomes Magnetic, who brings a transformative framework for understanding how white supremacy operates beyond obvious racism. "White supremacy is normalized insanity," Magnetic explains, unpacking how these principles have been woven into everyday behaviors, education systems, media narratives, and even our language.

The conversation meticulously deconstructs each principle – from denial and misinformation to identity theft and chemical warfare. Particularly powerful is the analogy of Truth and Lie at a swimming pool: when Truth jumps in, Lie steals Truth's clothes, leaving us with "the naked truth chasing a well-dressed lie." This image crystallizes how falsehood gains legitimacy while truth struggles to be recognized.

What separates this discussion from typical conversations about racism is its focus on the subconscious rather than the obvious. As Magnetic notes, "We're not so much the conscious community like that, we're the subconscious community." By examining how these principles manifest in subtle ways – from food modification to educational curricula to media portrayals – listeners gain practical tools for recognizing and resisting psychological operations designed to maintain division.

The episode concludes with an emphasis on finding common denominators across cultural divides as an antidote to the divisiveness these principles create. For anyone seeking to understand why social progress feels so difficult despite decades of activism, this conversation provides the missing piece: recognition of the psychological architecture that keeps

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
what's going on?
Everybody is ron brown lmt, thepeople's fitness professional,
aka soul brother number one,reporting for duty.
I have the god magnetic in thebuilding.
Peace to the god peace almighty.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
it's a pleasure to be in the building.
Peace to the God, peace to allmighty.
It's a pleasure to be in thebuilding, building with the
builders.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Indeed, indeed, indeed.
God, thank you for uh,believing in a brand and staying
on on top of this, staying withus and being consistent,
dropping jewels.
Um man, if, uh, we could kindof put like um man, if we could
kind of put like some kind ofthing together where we could
put all the episodes in one,yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Like a movie or like a documentary, you know, and
then organize them based onsubjects.
My wife is talking about thatas well.
Yeah, that would be a real nicething, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Or you know what I can do on the like as soon as
you know what I can do on the umlike as soon as this weekend I
can go into uh, uh, youtube andYouTube, youtube.
You can like have like a serieslike.
So I can do like the BRT blackround table and they can say,

(01:23):
okay, black round table, andthey go straight to that.
And they can say okay, blackRoundtable, and they go straight
to that and they can see allBlack Roundtable videos when
they go to the NYP channel.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Very very nice, very very nice, yeah, because.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I have a lot of good feedback, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
you know, on the stuff, Good feedback.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, you always drop jewels, bring
your white porn on to man.
All that is like peace.
So now let's go into it.
The 11 principles of whitesupremacy.
This is important to me rightnow.
It hit home.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well, first thing I want to say is that to our white
listeners OK, followers, thisis not aimed at individual
whites, okay, because you know,as a fact of life, we understand
there's a very small percentageof white people left on the
planet.
So what this is dealing with isthe things that have been left
over from this system of whitesupremacy which, I would say,

(02:23):
kicked in main flux around the14th century.
These are things that arepsychological, that we see in
education, that we see in whitecommon law, that we see in
religion.
You know that we see peoplekind of do, but sometimes not
acknowledge and, like I wastelling my brother, I Supreme
here.
We're not so much the consciouscommunity like that, we're the
subconscious community.
So we're not so much theconscious community like that,

(02:45):
we're the subconscious community.
So we're going to talk to youabout some things that have been
subconsciously implanted, yousee, and bring them to the
forefront.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah, Indeed so, and don't take that we holding it,

(03:18):
we holding that, the 11principles of white supremacy,
okay, uh, preamble, preamble.
White supremacy is apsychological operation.
This psychological operation isa narrative which has made its
way into most of the world'sideologies, religions and
political systems, withoutexception.
Okay, you want me to read on?
Yes, sir, all right, ifeuropeans are the small, are a
small minority and always havebeen, then a part of this

(03:42):
psychological operation isdecorating false ideas and
concepts with well-dressed lieswhich have normalized into our
everyday behavior.
In fact, I would go as far asto say white supremacy is
normalized insanity, whitesupremacy, hey, white supremacy.

(04:04):
In fact, I will go as far as tosay is white supremacy is
normalized insanity.
That's the bar, okay, since itis a psychological operation,
since it is a psychologicaloperation, check, operation,

(04:31):
check.
Many times we are unknowinglycarrying these principles out.
In fact, I will go as far as tosay white supremacy is
normalized insanity.
Since it's a psychologicaloperation, many times we are
unknowingly carrying theseprinciples out.
I love that.
Ok, we, we must unlock thelayers of this psychological

(04:53):
phenomenon so that all of thethe subjects of white supremacy
can see these thoughts andtendencies which have been
normalized in our daily,everyday expressions.
Yes, sir, one denial.

(05:14):
So you want to, you want tokeep, want me to keep reading,
yeah, go ahead, family, and thenI'm gonna comment on each one
okay, okay, denial.
the purpose of the now is tocause the subject Okay, okay, in
achievements, this is done.
This, this done, this is.
I guess you said this is doneto obscure a people's

(05:51):
contribution, also to trivializetheir self-identity using false
identities and concepts.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, let's do it so anything that you've ever went
after in life family that was ofmerit, right and of stature.
You know that gave you yourtrue justification of who you
are.
White supremacy denies it,period, any job you ever went
after.
Oh, you're not good enough.

(06:20):
Oh, you're overqualified, right?
Whatever you say, yournationality is what they deny
you.
Oh, we're Moors.
No, you're not Mo enough.
Oh, you're overqualified, right.
Whatever you say, yournationality is what they deny
you.
Oh, we're Moors?
No, you're not Moors.
There's no such thing as a Moor.
The Moors were Arabs.
You're Black?
No, you're not Black.
You're African-American?
No, you're not African-American, you're just American.
You know, it's always the systemof denial of everything that

(06:41):
you justly have earned already.
Now I don't want you to havethat.
Oh, we built America?
No, you didn't build America.
There were so many other peoplethat helped.
And then that's one part of it.
The other part of the denial isthe white supremacist denying
everything that white supremacyand its minions has done to us.
So it's like a double denial.

(07:02):
Now some people will tell youoh, denial is the largest river
in Africa and it runs from Southto North.
But I'm here to tell you thatdenial runs through America, it
runs through Europe.
It runs through South America,it runs, running through the
whole world and some of us isswimming in it indeed, indeed,

(07:28):
all right, so I want to move to.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Okay, keep going.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I like that.
That's a day, and that's why Iput it first, because it's
something that all of us dealwith daily, and I just you know.
As a remedy to that, I want tosay never look for white
supremacy to confirm or affirmyour truths.
No, because they will deny them, just to keep you confused and

(07:52):
unsure.
So go ahead, family.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
All right, so I'm just I want people to see this,
so I'm trying to get this tag,but anyway, all right.
So two first of all, I love howyou put the preamble right.
That preamble was spot on manand then you go into denial.
Spot on, spot on.

(08:17):
This is like this could be whatthey call it groundbreaking for
some people, with an epiphany.
Oh, that's what it was, yeah,exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Oh, now I you know what I mean, because we're not
going after the obvious.
We're looking at somesubtleties, you know.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
You see, Subtleties.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's what that's the technology.
Yes, sir, yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
That's how they get you, with the subtlety they
slide it in on you, because it'stoo easy to spot the obvious
racist man they have on a KuKlux Klan uniform, or a
policeman, that's racist, or aredneck, that's too obvious.
Now they have this machine,which is represented by these 11
principles, where they justpush the button.
Then he's standing over in thecorner and look at you while

(09:05):
this machine is doing you in.
It's like he don't know what'sgoing on.
Oh, that chair is terrible.
What's going on with thoseblacks?
Man, you built a machine, youall that motherfucking, keep it
fresh and running, but he actinglike he don't know.
Once again, that's that denial,you see.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
So let me ask you this question Would you agree
that being at the majority ofpeople here in America,
especially according to thelessons, is 103 million
according to the lessons?

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, once upon a time yeah, 1930.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Right right Once upon a time.
Yeah, 1930.
Right right Once upon a time.
Right so, but those numbershave changed over time.
However, it still remains thatthey are, in this land, here,
the majority right.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, that's what they say.
I've read too many books onstatistics and on white people
that are passing for white thatyou know the one drop rule right
that the department of commercesaid if you have one drop of
black blood, you black.
Now, when these reparationschecks start coming out all of

(10:17):
that denial about them denyingtheir black roots it's gonna go
up in smoke and everybody'sgoing to be black.
When these checks start rollingout and people are able to try
to parlay and connect themselvesto the people whom they tried
to disconnect themselves from,when there's some money
connected to it, oh yeah, we'regoing to really, then we're
going to see and a lot of peoplewho you thought was white, they

(10:39):
might surprise you.
Just saying Right.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
But let's say, if we use those degrees right, okay,
and they're the majority rightalready for a while, would you
say, that being that they're,they're the majority.
If they had any kind of um love, so to speak, for us, or
respect for us, or dealt withequality, like they try to say a

(11:09):
lot of the time, don't youthink that the dynamic would
change in America kind ofovernight, because they would be
voting in favor to make changefor melanated people and deal
more on an equal plan?
Phil, so you're saying, becausethey have the numbers, four
melanated people and deal moreon an equal playing?

Speaker 2 (11:26):
field.
So you're saying, because theyhave the numbers, it will be
easier for them to really make achange that's noticeable.
Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, exactly, it would almost be overnight, you
know.
But you can't legislate loveinto law, you know, and so we've
been trying to do that for along time.
And how's it going for you?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Right, Exactly, Exactly Now denial that was,
that was fire.
Now let's go to the secondprinciple misinformation to
purposely.
To purposely mislead aindividual or group.
When a lie is matched with afederal, federal budget and
funded by taxpayers, when thelie is legislated into law and

(12:40):
truth is treated as treasonthat's powerful brother law and
truth is treated as treason.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
That's powerful, brother.
I mean, I say these things andI try to say it in a way where
everybody can reach out andtouch it and not to where some
obscure fact, but this, thismight be a little bit obscure,
but to our researchers they'regoing to.
They're going to feel this it'sa group that's called the
Daughters of the Confederacy.
Hmm, they're going to feel this.
It's a group that's called theDaughters of the Confederacy.
Hmm, these people commitpenicide and they pay other

(13:13):
teachers, administrators andpeople who work within the field
of education to commit penicideagainst us and they want to
rewrite the story of the CivilWar saying that, oh, we were
just fighting for states' rights.
We were just fighting forstates' rights.
You see, and they hideunderneath that, the real raw
racism.
You feel me.
These bills you know that theyhave with the 20, the one that

(13:37):
Wichita College just put out.
Trump just put out the big badbill, whatever.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Out the big bad deal, whatever.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
These are the kind of thingsthat they slide into education
right to create people like thiswho think like this you know,
the daughters of the confederacy, the same thing that the
confederacy was trying to do tothe land, the government, the

(13:58):
daughters of the confederacy dowithin education.
So, oh, slavery wasn't that bad, they were just indentured
servants.
You see these type of talkingpoints come from that.
Oh, the people that saved theslaves were the abolitionists.
You know what I mean.
Oh, they wanted to impose theirway of life on the South.
No, it's clearly stated, man,by you know all of these people

(14:20):
who advocated for you know theConfederacy and their doctrine
that that was about whitesupremacy and maintaining
slavery period.
But they're trying to rewritethis and make it a part of
America.
Now, I never saw where Germanytried to write in the Nazi party
as something that was favorableto the world and to Germany.

(14:41):
They said, no, y'all did somefucked up shit.
You lost, we kicked you out,man, we're trying to do better.
But these guys lost the war.
But they have bases named afterthem, they have statues named
after them, they have monumentsnamed after them.
They get a huge page in history.
You know more than the actualblack men who actually freed the

(15:02):
plantations, you know, andfought to maintain the union
simultaneously out of coming outof slavery.
You know.
But once again we have what theyhave.
We have what they call apenicide family, where somebody
can write you out of history andthen rewrite you back in, but
not in a good way.
You know what I mean.
And your tax dollars and my taxdollars come out of our pocket

(15:26):
every day to pay for that andyou can't really say nothing
because this is one of thelargest lobbies in the
democratic party, the teachersunion.
Yeah, I mean, they said well,we're liberal.
Well, why do you guys acceptthe books from the daughters of
the, the Confederacy?
Why, I know you read thesebooks, family, and you're

(15:46):
thinking man, who wrote this,right?
Yeah, so that's what I mean bymisinformation.
Not when somebody does not know, that's ignorance.
Misinformation when somebodyknow, but they purposely tell
what I call a therapeutic lie, alie that's believable.
You kind of want to believethat.

(16:10):
It sounds so good, you see,yeah, Gotcha Identity theft.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Identity theft Demonize a group's lineage or
identity, causing you to abandonyour nationality lineage,
identity for a false lineage.
He tricks you out of youridentity so they he may assume
your identity along with all ofits benefits.

(16:41):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
And that goes into.
There's so many examples ofthat.
The best one, the very best one, is a story about truth and lie
.
Have you heard this story,finley, brother, isapri?
No, sir, you might have heard aversion of it, but it goes a
little something like this so itwas a hot day like today, about
100 some degrees, and truth andlie was sitting by the this.

(17:06):
So it was a hot day like today,about 100-something degrees,
and Truth and Lie were sittingby the pool.
So you know, lie, he alwaysscheming.
He's like hey, man, let's hopin the pool and take a quick
swim.
And Truth is like nah, man, I'mnot trying to really get all
wet like that.
He's like oh, come on, man, whyyou being funny, stuff like
that.
So he gets ready, he startstaking off his clothes and stuff
.
And you know, and Truth waslike man, it is hot, man, I'm
burning up out here, let me goahead and hop in there.

(17:28):
So Truth took off his clothesbefore Lai took off his clothes
and he jumped in the pool.
So Truth is in there, you know,moving around in the pool
swimming.
Then he looks up, man, and he'slooking for Lai.
Lai put on his clothes, uh ohRight, so Truth lie and put on

(17:49):
his clothes.
Uh oh right, so truth gets outand it's like man, this took my
clothes, man, he's like well,wait a minute, I don't want to
put on his clothes because thenI'll be the truth dressed up as
a lot, you see.
So he's running down the street, buck naked, chasing a well

(18:10):
buck naked, chasing awell-dressed lie, you see, and
people are looking at this andwhat do they see?
They see the naked truthchasing a well-dressed lie.
You know, you see what I'msaying.
Who did they call the police onthe naked truth or the
well-dressed lie, the, the nakedtruth, yes, sir.
And who did they let into theirhome and welcome the
well-dressed life?
You see what I'm saying?

(18:31):
And there has been peopleimpersonating us family for the
last thousand years, using ourname, our personality, our
biblical identity, to not onlyimpersonate us but to do crime,
you see, and because you're notbeing you okay, who you are, you

(18:51):
can't be him.
That means you're nobody, yousee, and this is, you know,
because somebody took youridentity and they're using it,
you see.
So this one identity theft goesand then you go, we can go into
the Bible.
This man didn't erase the truecolor of Yeshua Ben Pandera and

(19:15):
his identity and imposed hisidentity on it so to make you
worship himity theft is a coldone.
It's just like if somebody tookall your ID and everything and
used it to get credit cards andstuff.
Now he's going all over theworld messing up your name,
messing up your credit, yeah,spending your money, and you

(19:39):
know that's how I see that one.
I mean it goes further than that, but just on a one.
I mean it goes further thanthat, but just on a real basic
level.
You see, that should be anotherpoint within reparations how
somebody has misrepresented ouridentity and stolen our identity
.
So, indeed, because that's acrime, identity theft, you know

(20:00):
for sure.
But there's no one to enforcethat identity theft.
Indeed, because that's a crime,identity theft you know Right
For sure.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Right, but there's no one to enforce that identity
theft no.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
I think we got to do it, we got to talk about it, we
got to point it out.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
We got to do a whole lot.
We got to do a whole lot.
So the four devils envy todislike someone because of their
, because of a innate talent orgift jealousy.
So I want to make sure it'sright and exact.
So the four devils a envy todislike someone because of a

(20:40):
innate talent or gift.
To dislike someone because ofan innate talent or gift.
B jealousy to be mad withsomeone for showing too much
attention to something orsomeone that you love.
C lust to have a selfish,unhealthy attraction or

(21:02):
obsession with or towardssomething or someone.
D hate to have a strong feelingof dislike towards someone.
Usually, this energy ismisdirected and unfounded,
having no worthy basis orjustification for it.
Having no worthy basis orjustification for it Many times

(21:23):
hate is based uponmisinformation, also forced
ideals and concepts.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Yes, sir, them four devils are very important family
.
And when I say that, you canlook at all of our organizations
, you could look at all thegroups that we belong to street
organizations, naacp, the Nation, the Morris Science Temple, the

(21:51):
Kemetic organizations, civilrights organizations and what
you see is the same thing.
Over and over these four things, we can subtract all that the
Alphabet Boys do.
Okay, because without thesefour things the alphabet boys
cannot function and can't touchus.
You know, because if they can'tbreak up the brotherhood, the
sisterhood, the unity, thecontinuity of thought, right,

(22:14):
using these four tropes, theycan't really do nothing.
So people would always ask mewell, why do you think so many
of our organizations fall andare unsuccessful and only last
for so long?
And I named those four.
I named those four becausethese are things that are within
our control.
You can't really control whatyour enemy is going to do to you
.
You know you can't becauseyou're not inside of his mind,

(22:36):
but these are things that we cancontrol of his mind, but these
are things that we can control.
So I mean, did you have anyquestions about those, those
four devils?

Speaker 1 (22:46):
and I'm sure you quite familiar with those yes,
sir, yes sir, with the fourdevils, you know, the only thing
I could think of is of coursethat degree.
And also I could think of is ofcourse that degree, and also,
um, I'm thinking more of likesubduing, like.

(23:09):
So there's something they sayin masonry is like, I think it
goes subdue your passions and,uh, improve yourself in history.
So now I don't know if whatwould be a passion, cause that's
, that's another thing thatcomes to mind with passion.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
It's kind of like a, it's like a gen, it's like a
very powerful force within you.
You know that you have to.
I would say even tame, you knowright.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
So that wouldn't that be.
Would that be related to envy,jealousy, lust and hate?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
yeah, those would be passions.
Some people would describe themas passions, you know, because
they're things that emotions,that kind of take us away from
myself, you see, take us awayfrom logic, take us away from
practicality, common sense, say,oh, I did this in a moment of
passion, right, and maybethey'll cut some a little bit of
time off your time, maybe.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
Indeed.
Now let's go to entrapment Five.
Number five, because we're donewith 11 principles.
Number five entrapment.
To knowingly lure someone intocriminal activity, usually for
the financial benefit ofyourself.
Example CIA crack and Hegeliandialectic, Hegelian dialectic,

(24:30):
Hegelian dialectic I think I'veheard of Hegelian dialectic, I
just don't remember what it wasexactly.
We can go back to that.
Another form of entrapmentleads us to the robot, the
resident, the residual, theresidual, residuals, residuals,

(24:50):
family, church, school, andbecome hard-hearted toward the
thought of Black unity and Blackorganizations.

(25:13):
And listen, man, this righthere you got to put this in a
book or something Like this isyou understand Like these are
real?
Put this in a book or somethingLike this is you understand
like these are real, seriousproblems that we really deal
with?
Yeah, Psychologically, and itshould be a part of everyone's
literature.
Yeah, and it should be quoted,just like people can quote 120.

(25:38):
This should be quoted, you know.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Well, that's why I'm you's why I'm putting it.
I want to put it out in a wayin which people can relate to it
, understand it, hear it, and itresonates with them.
It's not some abstract theory.
There's some stuff that peopletalk about that's so historical,
it's not touching theireveryday reality, that's not
necessarily stuff people shouldtry to reflect upon with a large
audience, because that's anecessarily stuff people should

(26:01):
try to reflect upon with a largeaudiences, because that's a
small experience and it's gone,it's yesterday, it's not today.
These are things I know.
Yeah, we dealt with yesterdayand we still dealing with it
today.
Yeah, you know, but I thinkwisdom is the way, so it is the
way you deal with it.
You know what I mean.
It's the way you deal with it.

(26:22):
And that one, the robot, thelast one, you read the residuals
of black organizational trauma.
Okay, and how we get entrappedinto that.
All of us belong to some typeof group or some type of
organization at some point,right, church school.
Some of us are in Masonicfraternal organization.

(26:42):
All of us belong to some typeof group or our family, okay.
Now, the more trauma youexperience without the
understanding of why the traumahappened, okay, in these groups.
It discourages us from comingtogether as a group.
You feel me, because every timeyou think of that group you
reflect on the trauma you seeand if somebody doesn't explain

(27:05):
to you the situation that causedthe trauma, say, hey, this is
not your fault, this is not yourpeople's fault, these are
circumstances of life, you knowwhat I mean, that everybody
deals with.
And anytime we say, well, man,I don't want to join this group
because all they do is argue, Idon't want to be a part of this
group because all they do isargue, logically we should say,

(27:26):
well, you should find somepeople in that group who don't
just want to argue and who wantto really build on the
principles that that group isabout Right.
But we said, no, I'm not, I'mnot.
And that's what I call therobot, the residuals of black
organizational trauma.
Everybody got a sob story aboutthis organization or that
organization or this clique overhere.

(27:47):
We need more good stories, man.
But you know, in order tounravel trauma, you have to
balance it out.
We talk about the 70s, okay.
We talk about heroin.
We talk about some of thequintile problem.
We talk about the families andstuff that came up out of the
60s because they didn't have thejobs.
They had better jobs in the 70s.

(28:08):
They could move to more places.
A lot of good stuff happened inthe 70s.
A lot of good music was made inthe 70s.
So I'm a balanced person family.
I'm not just going to say, oh, Iwent into this organization,
all bad stuff happened.
No, I went into thisorganization, some bad stuff
happened, some good stuffhappened.
You know, I learned from thebad.
I appreciate the good and Imultiply the good and I multiply

(28:31):
my understanding of the bad.
But I don't just stay stuckthere.
That's not a very mature way oflooking at stuff you know, of
looking at stuff you know.
But if, if people don'tunderstand entrapment is that's
how they trap you into thinkingbad about yourself and your
people.
You feel me okay?

(28:51):
That's, that's one side ofentrapment.
The other side of it is likewhen somebody lures you into a
criminal situation where you endup doing time or becoming a
criminal and you end up gettinglocked into a cycle of
recidivism, and we have amultiplicity of examples of that
dealing with us in this country.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Right for sure, for sure.
So now I want to go into, joe,as it's funny, you have it on
the six.
All right, all right, so six.

(29:29):
Gender confusion yes.
Between 1952 and 1973,homosexuality was classified as

(29:49):
a mental illness by the AmericanPsychiatric Association.
The first edition of theDiagnostic and Statistical
Manual of Mental Disorderslisted homosexuality as a
sociopathic personalitydisturbance, and it remained on
the list for subsequentadditions that's a very
important fact, because thequestion has to be asked why did

(30:13):
they remove that from thatjournal?

Speaker 2 (30:18):
why did they remove?
I actually got this point fromI believe it was Dr Bobby Wright
, you know I'm talking about.
He was a clinical psychologistdown in Alabama and Georgia and
whatnot.
But they found out that theycould use, you know, gender
confusion and whatnot, et cetera, homosexuality and whatnot as a
form of population control, Inaddition to Planned Parenthood

(30:47):
and all the other forms of birthcontrol and whatnot.
They wanted to bring this along.
It's not doing it fast enough.
Abortions ain't happening fastenough.
They're not killing each otherfast enough.
We got to take this to the nextlevel, you see.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Yeah, got you All right, so now you want to move
on or stay there?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Did you want to ask anything about that family?
I mean make sure to do it.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
That subject for me is just kind of like like, no,
no, it affects us for sure, butit's like something I don't
really think about at all.
You know what I'm saying, likenot no disrespect, I just don't
pay attention to that at all.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
You know what I'm saying, Like I mean when I look
at white supremacy and when Ilook at okay, let's take a word
like conquer, right, what reallyis con queer?
Meaning that a person cons you,deceives you into being what
Queer?

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Okay, okay, I got you .

Speaker 2 (31:57):
You see, because, like I said, it's a
psychological operation.
So they slide these things inon you, you know, putting more
estrogen in the food.
And they do this to youngpeople who are at an uncertain
time in their life Teenagers,right.
When you're changing, you'regoing from this to that.
You know, is you uncertain,you're jumping from one foot to

(32:20):
the other.
You know you're trying to findyour identity and they reach and
grab you and pull you into this, you see.
So that's how they con you intobeing queer.
You know what I mean.
It's not direct, it's a slowprocess and if you look around
this country, you'll see justpeople who you know you thought

(32:43):
was straight lace.
And then you're like, well, man, what happened to this bro-bro?
He wearing dresses now, oh, wow, you see, it kind of sneaks up.
It's like a silent ninja.
You don't see it coming.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I mean, like all technology is there, you go,
that's how it always goes.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
You know just somebody really brings it to
your face you don't you'd belike oh yeah and puts the pieces
together.
You just kind of overlook itand take it, you normalize it.
That's why I say whitesupremacy is normalized insanity
, because when we talk aboutthese things right here, you're
like man, this shit is crazy.
But they've normalized it so itdoesn't seem crazy.
You know exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
It's like like, um, uh, like that ai, like I'm not
making ai a bad thing.
You know ai is good for, forwhat it's worth.
You know it has some greatusage, but you know uses but um,
the issue with it for me isthat the public, they don't know

(33:49):
how advanced it's getting bythe second day, etc.
Like we're slowly beingprogrammed.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
What?
They call it Skynet, thecomputer from Terminator.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
Skynet.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Yeah, ain't that what they called it, the computer
that you know took over inTerminator.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha, yeah.
Oh, that's interesting.
Hold on, we got hold on.
Little Duval posted aquestionable picture on his IG
today showing the transconfusion where a man is looking
feminine with beads and a womanhas her chest out looking yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
You see it everywhere .
And people, if you saysomething, then they're like oh,
you're a homophobe, no, I'm not.
Peace, god, peace, rodney.
You know they try to tear youapart, but they're like oh,
you're a homophobe, no, I'm not,I'm a peace, god, peace, rodney
.
You know they try to tear youapart, but it's like look, I'm
not going to impose my way oflife on you in no shape, form or
fashion, no aspects of it.
But at the same time, I'm notgoing to let you impose that on
my people, particularly becauseyou're doing it in a real slick

(34:59):
way to con people into queerness.
You see, it's real indirect andsubconscious.
You know, yeah, and if we don'tsay something, be like nah,
hold up, that ain't cool man,let them people make their own
decision on that.
Don't try to offer peoplegrants.
Oh, we have a queer grant.

(35:19):
All you have to do is saygoodbye and we'll give you this
much money.
Serious, that's a real thing.
You see, yeah, you know so gotyou.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
Now I want to go into displacement, gentrification,
redlining, proxy wars, whiteflight uh-oh.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
It has temporarily paused for a second, so I guess
they want us to pause for thecause for a second.
So we will pause ongentrification and redlining.
But it is something that we allclearly experience, you know,
in all the 16 black Meccas, fromits inception until today.

(36:10):
You know, I think ourneighborhoods would be bigger, I
think they'd be more prosperous, I think we would have more
homeowners if redlininggentrification had not happened,
if it's not still happening.
You know that's a realdifficult one because it deals
with banks and it deals withmoney.

(36:31):
You know it's a monetary thing,so it's a very difficult thing
to deal with.
You have to go in and actually,I guess, convince the banks to
stop doing it.
You know, and it's difficult totell people with big money to
stop doing something.
You know you could tell them,but that don't mean they don't
listen.
So yeah, and I was justwatching something on the Bronx

(37:00):
and how they were burning down alot of the facilities, a lot of
the buildings in the Bronx inthe 70s and 80s because they
wanted to kind of chase thepeople out and the owners were
getting a lot of um, the ownerswere getting a lot of the
insurance money, you know, fromthe buildings burning down but
the people were getting squeezedout.
You know, the facilities werepoor, the water wasn't on, the
heat wasn't on.
Um, rats and roaches runningthrough, um, yeah, just, you

(37:24):
know, living in a real hell holebut still collecting rent.
This was the Bronx.
They were able to put ittogether.
A lot of different people wholived in the neighborhood who
wanted to see the neighborhoodsurvive.
After Ronald Reagan camethrough lying, a couple other
mayors came through lying saidthey was going to do stuff.
So some people in theneighborhood Puerto Rican, black

(37:45):
people, some, some even lookwhite, probably Italian, italian
or something they put theirhead together, they put their
bread together and they startbuilding back the Bronx.
You know, and I guess that'swhat brought it back to this day
.
You know, even though there wasgentrification, even though
there was redlining federalprograms, the power of the
people came together to makesomething better.

(38:07):
Even Matula Shakur in the Bronx, he put a clinic I think it was
Lincoln Hospital where they putall their heads together and
they bred together and theyfound the dissatisfied doctors
and they made a program to get alot of these people off of
heroin, off of cocaine, whichwas kind of new, you know, and,
just in general, showing themhow to chillax.

(38:28):
Because let's keep it a buck,man, these places on the east
coast and a lot of the blackmeccas, but particularly the
east coast, they're the realhigh pace and high stress.
So you have to find some typeof way to be able to release
that stress, you know, or thatstress can turn into violence,
you know.
Right, these are notundisclosed facts.

(38:50):
Excuse me, but the way we'relooking at it as a form of white
supremacy, I don't know.
Some people might not havetotally connected it like that.
They like oh well, this was amishap that happens within
government mismanagement offunds or mismanagement of this
person's job and whatnot.
Yeah, brother, I Supreme had toclick off for a second.

(39:15):
He'll be back.
This, what we call redlining,what we call gentrification, is
something that was planned,planned.
There's certain blackneighborhoods that had a lot of
prominence and dominance inpowerful regions of the country.
I call them the 16 Black Meccas.
These places were centers ofculture, these places were

(39:36):
centers of innovation andcenters of commerce for
everybody.
They wanted to break that up.
Rosewood is one of those places.
Black Rosewood is one of thoseplaces.
Black Wall Street is one ofthose places as well real quick,
peace, real quick.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Shout out to Mac for holding it down, because my
power went out.
My power went out.
I said, oh, and you keptrolling.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
That's peace, let's keep it going, yeah that's a
good example of gentrificationwhen the power go out
unexpectedly you see, man, Ipaid the bill.
I need to make a call.
Man, I paid the bill, what thefuck.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
I need to make a call .
I'm like what happened?
So you finished the build onredlining, now let's go into
tribal conflict.
Tribalism refers to strongloyalty and preference of one
social group, often withnegative feelings toward those

(40:55):
outside of the group Indeed, andmanifests in various forms,
including ethnic, political oreven cultural divisions.
Example Ethiopia versus Eritrea.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Rwanda.

Speaker 1 (41:10):
Hutu versus Tutsi, germany Nazi versus Jew,
american America, irish versusAnglo-Saxon.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
You see, and to me, this form of ethno-warfare, you
know, tribalism.
They try to point to Africa andthey try to make Africa as the
place of this.
But it heightened after aparticular period when the
colonialists came and it was intheir interest to play the

(41:43):
tribes against each other.
Now a lot of the tribalism thatwe see in Africa is tribalism
that came from Europe, becauseEurope then had like 100,000,
not 100,000 year wars, buteither 100 year war and thousand
year wars.
They try to disconnect them andmake it seem like they're not
connected, but it's the samepeople fighting, germany versus

(42:05):
France, britain versus France,just relentlessly going.
And this is why a lot of stuffdidn't grow and it was difficult
for them to get civilizationfor a long time, until it came
to like the 15th century,because there was so many wars,
you know.
So they had burnt up the landand businesses they had started

(42:28):
up.
You know, during war everythinggets blown up.
But they took this very tribal,xenophobic mind state, even
though they right next door toeach other in Europe, right
directly next door to each other.
They got to know to bexenophobic and then they took
this to the rest of the world,to India, to Africa to South
America.
You know, in South America yougot all these different groups

(42:51):
of people, look very similar,kind of very similar culture,
but octoroon, quadroon,different versions and different
mixtures of people.
You know, and that's likeYaacoub's caste system, but
nowadays we call it tribalism.
Koop's cash system, butnowadays we call it tribalism,
and it's one of the primarytools that they use to divide
people and turn people againsteach other.

(43:11):
One thing I must say aboutBlack people in this country to
a large degree we have been ableto overcome that because we had
a lot of false labels and stuffthat we was caught up in.
But after just taking a hardlook at what's happening to us
and who it's happening to rightand who's doing it, we said, oh

(43:32):
well, no, we, we pretty muchwant people, man, we pretty much
want people.
We got past that color and thatskin and that hair stuff.
It's still kind of in therebecause white supremacy, like I
said, finances these false ideasand concepts.
You see, when it dies out, theybring it back.
You see, bleaching cream wentout amongst us, but go to India

(43:56):
and go to Africa, man, see howmuch you know bleaching cream
there is.
But on tribalism, family, Iwould say that the golden or the
silver bullet, for that is whatwe was talking about, tawahedo.
You have to find commondenominators, man, amongst

(44:17):
cultures, people whom you see.
Everybody else can look at themand see they want people, but
they have little divisive thingsthat's dividing them.
You have to find commondenominators, man, like we was
talking about Tawahedo.
That would be like the commondenominator for East Africa.
Every culture has thosedifferent common denominators
Might be food, might be dance,might be certain music, might be

(44:39):
certain principles which pullpeople back to the table of
brotherhood, you know, andcommunity.
Now, in the Yacoub's laws, rulesand regulations, he gives you
the opposite.
He has you focus on all thethings that divide you, things
that you're going to argue over,things you'll never agree on,

(45:00):
like more in black and whatnot,you see, and he puts that as an
obstacle to unity and an unwiseperson will get stuck there.
I can't be with them becausethey're calling themselves this.
You know they need to be overhere with us, but okay, but your
arch enemy and his arch enemyis talking to you and him

(45:23):
Frequently and I bet your archenemy is telling him to kill you
and you to kill him.
You know what I mean,subconsciously, sometimes
straight laced conscious, youknow, and that's the I mean.
The tribalism is so cold family.
If we go to you know I talkedto my wife about it If we go to,

(45:43):
like Ethiopia, you and mecannot look and tell these
people apart like a Romo fromAmhara.
Sometimes you can if you reallyknow, but most of it, for most
part, they didn't mix togetherthe tribes to mix.
You can't tell them apart.
You can barely tell Ethiopianfrom Eritrean if you don't
really know.
You know the languages soundthe same.

(46:04):
So outside of that region,where you're at or where they're
at, that tribalism don't meannothing to nobody, even what
tribe you belong to, that don'tmean nothing to nobody outside
of that region.
You see what I'm saying.

(46:24):
They're looking at us as one inthe same, somebody that can
potentially cut into their cleanwhite birth.
You know lineage, right?

Speaker 1 (46:36):
yeah, now I want to go into micro nationalism, the
street, one's national identityfor a false sense of tribalism,
religious, ethnic, or a falseidentity, usually at the behest
of a colonizer.
Yes, sir, okay.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
To me.
I always say this Black worldculture.
I always say internationalismbecause nobody has like a bigger
.
I always say internationalismbecause nobody has like a bigger
, nobody has a bigger span ofpeople or a bigger nationality
than us family.
So I have a choice.
I have a choice.
I can be micro-nationalist andsay, oh, I'm just a part of this

(47:21):
group and the rest of thempeople screw them.
You know, that's one choicethat I can make and that's the
choice that some people make.
Or I can say I'm going toembrace all my people that are,
you know, like the lessons tellus, on all 196,000,940,000
square miles place where youthink they're not, they are and

(47:42):
they didn't just bus in therelike the colonizer, they're from
there.
You see, now let's, let's talkabout this.
Weizers, they're from there.
You see, now let's let's talkabout this.
We know they're from adifferent nation.
Okay, but for the most part,like I said, when you put the
nations together, you makecivilizations, because these
nations have trade and commercebetween them and they share
principles and they share ideas,not everything, but they build

(48:03):
on the things in which they cometogether on and see as one.
You know what I mean.
And we had this.
We've had this before, we'vehad this before.
There's a lot of places in our,I would say, antiquity and um,
what they call during, uh, thedark ages and whatnot, we had a
lot of trade between sanghai,mali and, you know, the west

(48:25):
West African nations and whatnot.
A lot of trade and civilityamongst them that was
intentionally flipped,intentionally flipped to make us
think that we cannot do goodbusiness with each other, and I
think we still think that way, alot of us.
We're coming to a point wherewe have to do good business with

(48:51):
each other because we're livingin a world where somebody will
give you bad service or badgoods just because of your
complexion.
That's bad business in itselfto be like that, because money's
green, it ain't no color.
But that's the world we live in, where somebody will not fix
your car the way they'resupposed to just because you got
the complexion that you have.
You see, right?

Speaker 1 (49:16):
Indeed.
Now let's go into chemicalwarfare, food, legal and illegal
drugs, water and air andgeneral intake, things that we
absorb, our intake is used as aconduit to our body and it is

(49:38):
the conduit is also used as ameans to poison us.
This is what is calledlow-intensity warfare, or quiet
weapons for silent wars, inother words, and we in other
words, and way to kill withoutthe culprit and murderer being

(50:05):
detected or identified.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Indeed, indeed, yep.
I think it was an album by theKiller Bees called.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Quiet, weapons Quiet.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
Weapons yes, quiet Weapons and at one time during
the Obama administration, theywere talking about death panels,
about people who were put on adeath panel and should be left
to die and should get subpartreatment or misdiagnosis.
That's one example.
Another example is the Tuskegeeexperiment, where they

(50:41):
purposely poisoned a whole bunchof people all the way up to the
70s doing a test on them.
Another example of that isMonsanto and all these seeds, or
these seeds that don't produceseeds.
They produce plants but theydon't produce the seeds, so you
can't plant nothing, number one,and no telling what type of

(51:02):
monstrosities it's doing to usin our bodies.
You know things that we seegoing wrong with us and you
wonder well, how did that happen?
Well, if people are alteringyour food and your intake, your
outtake is gone, you know yourand your outcomes of your
physicality change, I'm sure now, now, now, tell me this you

(51:25):
work in a physical fitnessfamily.
People were in way better shapein the seventies and eighties
and could get in better shape.
Back then it didn't take peopleas long to get in shape and
people were just in better shape.
They had more wind, they werejust all kinds of stuff then now
and I'm definitely looking atthe food and I can say just from

(51:48):
being a brother who was born inthe 70s the food now does not
taste the same as it used totaste.
It doesn't.
I hate eating watermelons withno seeds in it.
You know what I mean.
That freaks me out, man.
I'm from the old school man.
I'm eating a grape.
You're used to a grape having aseed.
Don't have no seed in it andwe're not going to really know

(52:11):
what these poisons andalterations have done.
Probably going to take like 10,20 years from now for us to see
the results of this modifiedfood, because that's how long
things usually take.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Well, I don't know, because people are dying all
over the place from healthcomplications.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
But they're not connecting it to the modified
food that we're eating.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you know what I mean.
They just randomly died.
It was time for them to die andit was part of their family.
Nah, buddy, it's a lot ofpeople, young people who look
healthy.
Something is randomly knockingpeople off man random strokes,

(52:51):
random heart attacks, randomuncurable diseases that pop up,
athletes that are top tieryou've seen this right, having
heart attacks and stuff.
Oh yeah, you see, so I'm.
You know, I know it has a lotto do like I.
I say intake too, because thisis the first time human beings
have been exposed to, say, thislevel of like you know, the 5G.

(53:13):
So we don't really know, yeah,we don't really know the effects
of that man.
We'll find out 10, 20 yearsfrom now.
We're speculating but we can'treally say for sure.
But you know, most of us canfeel we know what it is right.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
Indeed.
Now I want to talk about let'sgo into the uh, how do you
pronounce this word here?
I've never seen anathemization.
Anathemization I've never heardthat before.
Anathema anyone on the chatever heard that before?
The anathematization of theblack male image, also known as

(53:51):
the misandry?
Yes, sir, misandry is thehatred of contempt for, or
prejudice against, men or boys.
It's often used as a comparisonto misogyny, which is the
hatred of women.
While feminist scholars andothers have discussed misandry,

(54:15):
it's not as widely recognized ordiscussed as misogyny.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Indeed, indeed.
And if you ever want to see areally good example going way
back not too far back, but youknow of black misandry, where
the black male image isdemonized and you can clearly
see it, watch the movie calledthe Birth of a Nation.
Because what they wanted to dowith that movie was turn people

(54:44):
against the black senators whomwere taking office, the black
business people whom had moneyright after slavery, were doing
well, built towns, and theywanted to justify them coming

(55:05):
and stealing, raping, killingand taking back what they
thought the union had taken fromthem and given to the black
slaves.
So they wanted to have ajustification for that, you see.
So they demonized the blackmale images.
Rapers, you know, criminals whojust wanted to have sex with
white women.
You see, yeah, yeah Movies.
Like other movies that camelater, like the color purple,
are bricks stacked on top ofthis, you know, but it started

(55:28):
with that.
This was a movie that was shownat the White House.
It had a special showing andshowed it at the White House,
you see.
So this Black Miss Andrea, wecould take another movie, like
what's Love Got to Do With it.
If you really know that story?
Okay, if you really know thestory, if you really know the
story.

(55:48):
They embellished it and theymade him look worse, like the
antagonist or the villain.
She was whooping his ass likehe was whooping her ass.
If you talk to people who knewthem, it was equal man.
I mean, let's keep it a buck,bro.
There's not too many sisters.
Who's just going to take awhole bunch of ass weapons like
that?
A sister's going to fight youback.
It's keeping a button from theSouth.

(56:10):
And that's why from the South,the color purple becomes
unrealistic.
Tell me what black woman youknow from the South that's going
to call her husband Mr.
That don't no man.
And then it's going to letanother woman come in her house
and I don't, nah man.
And then it's gonna let anotherwoman come in her house and I
don't know my grandmother wasn'treally like that family.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
That's that's what I was getting ready to say you
took it right out of my, mythoughts.
Like yo, my grandparents, mygrandmother wasn't playing my
grandmother on my mother's side,my grandmother on my father's
side.
Nah, nah, man, you better come.
My grandmother on my mother'sside.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
My grandmother on my father's side, nah, Nah, man,
you better come all the waycorrect with them.
My grandma was R-A-W on mymama's side and on my daddy's
side, so that didn't make sensewhen they had her just bowing
down and then letting you knowand then she have, okay, she
sold.

(57:07):
He basically sold her kids intoslavery right Now.
Who really does that?
You calling him Mr, he's goingto have sex with you but then
he's going to take your kids andsell your kids into slavery.
Who really does that in realtime family?
Come on now, the slave master.
So when I think of mister, I'mlike well, hold up y'all putting

(57:29):
us on the white man's jacket.
We don't black men don't getdown like that.
We were oppressed just like theblack woman during slavery.
Still to this day he's probablyone of the most oppressed men.
So we don't really contributewith that misogyny like that man
, because that's a component ofwhite supremacy and the black

(57:49):
man has never really had thepower to carry that out.
Anyway, most of us that gothalf a brain don't want to carry
it out because we see how badit look when he do it, you know.
But misogyny, not misogyny.
Excuse me anathemization.
There's a brother I can't thinkof his name right now, but he's
a clinical psychologist and hetalks about a lot of these

(58:11):
aspects in movies and most ofyour teachers are usually women.
You have very few male teachers, particularly black male
teachers.
He talks about this, how thisstuff has been normalized, and I
mean, one example of this isyou know the word maleficent?
Okay, the root word.
Know the word maleficent?
Okay, the root word of the wordmaleficent is male.

(58:31):
Right or to malfunction, theroot word of mal, you know,
malfunction is male, you know.
So this is kind of, once again,it's normalized and we see it,
we don't like it, but it's neverreally brought to the front and
put in your face and asked whydoes this happen and where did

(58:52):
this come from?
But it's a justification forincarceration, recidivism and
military, industrial prison,complex family.
They have to keep them jailsfull and you know slavery is
justified under that conditionif you're a criminal.
Indeed indeed.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Thank you for coming by again this evening on
bi-weekly black round table.
I really appreciate you.
Magnetica Law, you know, justkeep dropping keep dropping
jewels every week table.
I really appreciate you.
Magnetica Law, you know justkeep dropping.
Keep dropping jewels every week.
Really appreciate you andthat's all I have to say.

(59:35):
That's all I have to say.
I want to read through thismyself and kind of analyze it
and learn from it myself.
Thank you for everybody on thechat watching viewing, thanks
for the viewers coming on later.
Really appreciate y'all and weare out of here.
Peace, oh oh.
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