The Power of Pan-African Unity

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
what's going on, everybody?
It's ron brown lmt, thepeople's fitness professional,
alongside my co-host mikey feverhow you doing yo.
What was that yo?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
I just been running around, man, you're taking care
of family and doing the usual.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Yeah, yeah, me too.
Man, Same here.
Yo, what's going on?
Everybody on the check inWhoever's in the chat.
Thank you for viewing us thisevening.
I really appreciate you.
We got we got Pan-Africandiplomacy tonight with the Black
Roundtable, and we got Mag.
We got Vic and Dwayne.

(00:48):
Now we know Mag and we know Vic.
I personally don't know Dwayne.
The last podcast you guys donewith Dwayne it was with just
Mikey Fever and the rest of thebrothers.
I wasn't there, so I don't knowif Mike did the traditional NYP

(01:09):
.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh yeah, I did, definitely Dwayne brother Sharp,
brother, I believe, from Guyana.
He came through a lot ofinformation.
Brother's on point.
He's on code, straight up Gcode.
On that table with the brothersman he put a lot of information
.
You know what I'm saying.
Just like the brother um vicand mag and he's vital, the
brothers, he's proficient, he'sum very insightful man indeed,

(01:34):
the brother actually has a fewbooks out.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Um, I'm sure he'll talk to us about that.
So people want to go, you know,up, check him out.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, all my books are available through.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Amazon for anyone who's interested.
Okay, so you're from Guyana.
Yeah, all right.
So Guyana's history is like amelting pot, almost like a
mixture of different cultures,right?

Speaker 4 (02:10):
So you would say Indian, indian african, and uh,
what else?
Indian african, chinese, someportuguese influence, obviously
the, the amerinian, the localpeople who were there before,
and uh, the dutch, britishcolonial influence yeah, so
that's a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
So your mom, your mom , what's her side Like?
Is that what your mom's side bemore Indian, african or, yeah,
her side is?

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Indian, african.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
My dad's side is African, chinese, some
Amerindian, some Portuguese,some British Got you All right,
so you know the whole history ofthe country is in my dna is
what I like to tell peoplegotcha wow and so and so the way
you grew up, the way you weretaught, were you taught that you
were a black man?

Speaker 4 (02:55):
yeah.
So here's the interesting thingbecause, um, my mom came up in
ghana during the 1970s blackpower movement and she was
involved in the pan-africanmovement.
So you know, for those who arefamiliar with walter ronnie, you
know the author of how you'reup under developed africa.
She was involved in hispolitical party and used to go
to his rallies okay, I know it'sthat book years ago all right,

(03:17):
that's, that's peace.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Now, um, what state did you grow up in?
Florida, florida, all right.
So what was your, your, yourupbringing?
Like some people come frompan-african background, some
people come from a five percentbackground.
Uh, some people come from amore, you know, activist based
type of background.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
You know, like the ncaa uh, what did I say that
right?

Speaker 1 (03:49):
naacACP.
I don't even watch basketballNCAACP, right yeah.
So people have that backgroundas well Political background.
So what is your background morelike?

Speaker 4 (04:05):
I would say my background is multiple things.
So I mean, I could start withthe fact that, you know, my mom
is catholic.
So we came up in the catholicum church and that was actually
profound um in terms of my uhdevelopment and influence,
because what I took out of thatcatholic upbringing was a sense
of commitment to service, uh, toother people, uh, you know, a
sense of standing up for theoppressed.
So I got a lot of that socialjustice type of um, you know,

(04:27):
bringing it from the catholicchurch, but it was very, it was
varied as well because, you know, like I said, my mom was part
of the black power movement.
So, you know, growing up withher, I'd hear stories about what
it's like, you know, for herand anna um, not just going to
walter ronnie's meetings but, um, you know, meeting with
rastafarians and an having theconversations with them, the
type of knowledge they instilledin her.
And my dad also played a rolein that development as well.

(04:50):
So I'll never forget I was 16the first time he sat me down
and we had a conversation aboutthe 1960s civil rights movement
here in the United States.
And at 16, he bought me a copyof Malcolm X Speaks, so he had
me reading Malcolm X at 16, 17.
Speaks, so you know he had mereading Malcolm X at 16, 17.
So you know, by the time Ibecame an adult I, you know, had
that Catholic influence.
You know I had the influencefrom the 1960s Black Power Civil

(05:12):
Rights Movement that my dad hadintroduced me to.
And you know, from readingMalcolm X, obviously he comes
out of the Nation of Islam, so Iwas studying Malcolm's
influences, the Rastafarianinfluence.
So you know, I came up with BobMarley.
My mom was a big funk fan aswell, so she introduced me to
Art when the Fire and the typeof consciousness in their
movements.

(05:33):
Part of why I developed thePan-African consciousness I have
is because I was getting thisconsciousness from all kinds of
different sources, from theUnited States, from the
Caribbean.
So you know, for me coming up,it was very easy to make that
connection between our people inthe Caribbean and our people in
the United States.
Because what I realized at anearly age is when we were going
through our Black Power movementin the 60s and 70s in the

(05:54):
Caribbean, trying to find thatconsciousness, trying to
orientate ourselves in aparticular way, our people in
the States were doing the samething.
We were Black Power in the 60sand 70s, so I was getting both
of those influences growing upand that really helped to shape
my Pan-African consciousness.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Nice Well put.
So now we know your history alittle bit Now.
Growing up in Florida what wasthat like Growing up in Florida,
coming from a pretty activeblack Pan-African family?
What was that like growing upin Florida?
What part of Florida actually?

(06:30):
Orlando, orlando, okay, allright, all right.
So what was it like growing upthere?

Speaker 4 (06:40):
It was fairly interesting because you know,
like I said, my mom, coming froma Catholic background, put me
in a Catholic school, so you canimagine that Catholic education
is very Eurocentric.
So and again this also helpedto shape my consciousness coming
up that a lot of what I end updoing was just rebelling against
the type of education that Iwas getting.
And you know, as I said, my momis Catholic, so she's thinking

(07:03):
she's putting me in theinstitution for religious values
and I was getting those values.
She wasn't thinking about theEurocentric aspect of the
education, so she wasn'tthinking about the fact that
when you go to a white you know,predominantly white school,
jesus is white, god is white,everything in that school is
white.
So you know, for me part ofthat upbringing was every day
I'm going to school and I'mbeing indoctrinated.

(07:24):
Obviously, for me part of thatupbringing was every day I'm
going to school and I'm beingindoctrinated.
Obviously, I wasn't thinkingabout this at the time as a
child, I didn't realize thelevel to which I was being
indoctrinated, but eventuallyit's something that I became
aware of and conscious of thefact that, you know, as I'm
going through this institution,I'm being indoctrinated with a
type of Eurocentric education.
And you know, the fascinatingthing is it gave me a different
insight, coming up in that typeof environment, because now I

(07:47):
see how the doctrine of whitesupremacy is actually being
pushed in white schools on whitechildren.
Because, you know, for me, as aBlack student in this class,
obviously I'm beingindoctrinated from a white
supremacist standpoint and theobjective is to make me think I
come from a people with nohistory, no culture, no
civilization.
And I started thinking well,what does this do to the white

(08:07):
children who are being pushed tothe same propaganda?
What it instills in them is thesense of superiority.
It makes them feel like they'rethe center of the universe,
they're the center of history,they're the center of culture
and civilization.
So not only was I rebellingagainst indoctrination, but it
also gave me some type ofinsight into why it is that
white people end up thinking theway that they do, because many
of them are actuallyindoctrinated to see themselves

(08:29):
as being dissenters.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
That's for sure.
So now you went to school.
You went to university, rightyeah, and what did you?
Major.

Speaker 4 (08:49):
Liberal arts.
So I was studying a little bitof everything a little bit of
history, political science andpsychology.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yes, sir, and of course you finished.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Yeah, I finished and I went on to law school and I'll
be doing my graduation in a fewdays oh nice, congratulations,
man, that black mom how old areyou brother?
Yeah, 34 next month young manwell at 33 you start moving.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
That's when the black man get in his god force.
That's why it's 33 degrees toget to a certain level, because
water transforms from solid toliquid, which is intuitive, to a
, which is intuitive, to gas,which is supreme intelligence.
So the 30s, these next fewyears, we're coming up in for

(09:54):
you, man, it's going to becritical.
You can make a real pressure.
Suck it to them, bro.
What is for You're working.
All sides of it.
I can tell people like you soyou can slide in like the smoke
that's set by the door.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (10:15):
It was funny about that.
The first time I read that bookI saw a lot of myself, my
upbringing, Always being inthose white spaces coming up in
school.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
I definitely related related to that book yeah right
so so now, have you been activein the community yourself, like
have you been, you know, a partof, like different groups or
anything like that?
Yeah, a lot of work, some inorlando.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
I've been part of different organizations um.
One of them was speak offlorida, which was part of the
movement to end the new Jim Crow.
I was part of an effort locallyas well.
We got a school renamed.
It was a school named afterStonewall Jackson.
We got it renamed in honor ofRoberto Clemente.
So I've done work here.
I've done international work asa Pan-Africanist as well,

(11:00):
particularly for the lastseveral years.
I've been involved in thestruggle in Togo because, for
those who aren't familiar, sincethe 1960s Togo has been run by
a single family, the Naseembefamily.
So the past few years has beena very strong movement to
overthrow the dictatorship inTogo, and part of the problem
too is that dictatorship hasbeen supported by France for

(11:21):
several decades.
So in Togo there's definitelyan anti-colonial revolutionary
struggle that's being waged andI've been part of that struggle.
So I've done work in Togo, donework in the Caribbean as well,
with different organizations inthe Caribbean, local work.
So one thing about me when Itell people I'm a Pan-Africanist
, that's something that I'mactually serious and committed
to.

(11:41):
So for me, when you say you'rean Africanist, you have to be
thinking internationally andthat means you have to be doing
this work on an internationallevel.
So that's the standard of how Itell myself to make sure that
I'm doing this work not onlylocally but globally.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
I like that man.
Oh, you're a good talker.
That's beautiful man.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yes, sir, the struggle has no barriers, man.
This is why I'm I'm completelyagainst diaspora wars, conflicts
of fba versus continentalafrican, versus caribbean
brothers, because we all enduredthe same hell.
You know, I'm saying same hell,different devils yeah, but we
never know if we don't exchangenotes.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Know we don't sit down and exchange notes.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Yeah, but for me too it's personal in the sense that,
you know, coming from my mom'sside, I have family roots in
Suriname.
So the thing about us you knowblack people in the diaspora.
When you check your roots, youknow you might be born in one
country but you might have rootssomewhere else.
You know, for example, example,I'm being from grenada.
So to me that's why thedashboard never made any sense,

(12:47):
because when you start checkingyour roots, you might find you
might be from this one countrybut you might have roots
somewhere else, particularlywhen we go back to slavery.
A lot of the ships came to thecaribbean islands before going
to the states.
So your ancestors first uh,first stop when we came to this
part of the world could havebeen in the caribbean islands
before you came to the states.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
So really, the only difference between somebody
that's born in the caribbean andsomebody that's born in the
states is where those shipsdropped us off exactly, and add
on to that too, not all umafricans actually came from
africa like they think, thetransatlantic, because, you know
, you got remember the fall ofwhen we was in Spain as more as
Europe.
Yeah, many of them, many wouldnot know that I want to say

(13:32):
something.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
A thought just came to me, man.
I just want to share this andask you, brothers, what you
think.
Now you know, I'm going to justgo back to when I started
learning about our people andhow we got in this condition,
the first real facts I got was120.
And really, I'm going to behonest with people I thought we

(13:56):
all came off the boat and I hadto add on, and I really found
out.
We've been all over the planetalready anyway.
Indeed, I had to add on and Ireally found out.
We've been all over the planetalready anyway.
So I don't want Pan-Africanismto turn into well, not
Pan-Africanism itself, but ourstruggle and our battle to be
whether or not what they did tous, more than how our unity

(14:22):
could stop what's being done tous, because the shit that they
did to every original thingthat's already here was just as
bad and worse.
But nobody ever discusses thatbecause everybody didn't come
over here in 1555 not when Iarrived, I was already here.

(14:42):
Thoroughbred mastered this part.
My mama's part, my mother'sside, was from here, my daddy's
side was from the boat, so I'mgoing to keep it 100.
I was dealing with both sides,but what I'm saying is some
countries, slaves were taken toaround the planet, right, and

(15:05):
even in Europe and Russia theyhad adventure servants and stuff
.
So it happened globally, buteverybody didn't.
The shit that I want to focuson is our nobility man.
Like they talk about the Moors,they travel the world and do
all this stuff and then allthese cats talking about it, but
then when they're talking aboutit, it's starting in Europe.

Speaker 3 (15:27):
I'm like wait a minute man That'll add up.

Speaker 5 (15:30):
We need to.
Really, our global unity isreally going to be based on our
nobility, our diplomacy, thespiritual aspects of what it
means to be call ourselves thesethings, man.
The real Moors were gods whonavigated.
They were like people couldn'twait for them to come because

(15:51):
they had all the best ofeverything, like Master Farah,
muhammad, silks and robes, andpeople couldn't wait for them to
come, but they were navigators,astrologers, teachers, healers.
They were the positive parts.
They weren't them niggas inEurope who ended up with a white
woman.
So I'm just saying if we put alittle more emphasis on our

(16:21):
nobility, man, and makeourselves the best version that
we could possibly be, it's abetter.
The art of war is to winwithout fighting, man, instead
of exhausting all your shit.
I'm oldest here, I'm almost 60.
I'm going to say, if I was yourage and knew what I knew at
your age, because the way it'sgoing now, at my age, that's why

(16:44):
I'm saying this If we focus onthe best part, we can fix it,
man, because we recognize thatwe can identify.
We got a million books, abillion people talking about it.
Nobody's really talking aboutwhat's the most effective way.
It means to fix it.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
That's a fact.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
That's the problem.
We can fix it.
That's a fact.
That's the problem, we can fixit, if we just try a little
harder.
Man, we got to try Becausethere ain't no mystery, god,
that brought us to this show, tothis time and this place and
this space.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
My question to you is what do we have to fix?

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Well, we complain and we focus on the problem.
That's what needs to be fixedand we don't focus on the
solution.
You can't change that shit, man.
It's his shit.
Niggas.
Keep complaining about somebodyelse's shit.
Let's just have some real talk.
You work for a non-motherfucker.
It's his shit, man.

(17:46):
How you gonna go there and bemad because he won't run his
shit.
How you want him to run hisshit.
You should get your own shitand run your shit.
You can't win no politicalblack nationalist,
pan-africanist, masonic weirdo,nigga.
Shit on the devil.
His technology has got yourslickology beat already.

(18:08):
The only way you can, thesolution is to fix it, as you
have to fix it, man.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
You have to fix it by doing for self.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
We got to come clean, start making our word, our bond
to all these principles thatour ancestors left us.
We talk good, but we don'treally do it.
We don't support each other, wedon't love each other.
All the podcasts I see manpeople talking strong and hard.
I'm like cool, but I don'treally see it.
I've traveled all over, notjust in the States, out of the

(18:41):
States too.
When I went into where he fromBelize it was funny style.
Niggas was trying to play asfunny as me and my wife.
Now most people bowed down.
We were like royalty, but itwas really funny style in a
sense, cause little fuckers wastrying to.
They had to hand down, they hadunrealistic expectations.

(19:02):
Um, so I know, man, we got to.
What we got to do is we got tostart doing what the Moors did
Trade barter, be self-sufficient, start faking the funk like
you're a Moor but you ain't gota business or a skill.
You work for the devil, that'sit.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
I want to add on to what you said too, is that with
our people, we tend to be stuckfighting over school of thoughts
and ideologies.
You understand, my lessons arebetter than yours, my idea, all
right, and y'all both stuck inthe same hell.
I'm going to keep repeatingthat.
Y'all both in the same trap,not progressing.
We could have all thisinformation, but what are we

(19:47):
doing with it?

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Well, I want to my part, pardon.
We could have all thisinformation, but what are we
doing with it?
Well, I went out my part,pardon me.
What, what I, what I'm?
Oh, were you?
Did you finish your thought,bro?
Yeah, go ahead, okay.
So, my, what I'm, what I thinkis that we keep, just like the
brother said, Vic said we keeptalking about the problem, the
problem.
We already know what theproblem is.
What is the solution?
Now, there's so many problems.

(20:10):
We need so many solutions to somany different things.
Now let me intervene rightthere.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
I'm not saying you're wrong, but if you fix the main
problem, everything else comesin the rotation.
It's our energy, that's howuniversal law work, bro.
That's who are.
That's the part we're notadding to our movement, our
struggle, but who we really are.
Put that force and shit ineffect on the ass, bro.
I do it all the time.

(20:39):
When they pull up on me, thepolice pull me over, I can't
have any type of contact withlaw enforcement.
Now, back in the day they hadme jacked.
I was a dumbass to you, aho-jit, because I thought I knew
it all.
I was in the streets and thegangster fly shit and they
landed me in the bank.
But I transformed into the sonof man, the supreme being.

(21:00):
And so now when they come incontact with me and they get my
license and they say they run alot, it comes back and says no
arrests, they run our law.
It comes back and says noarrests, no distress.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
That's the work I put in.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
White people will come clean if we come clean.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
That's the part that we don't never talk about.
I want to, I want to.
I want to kind of bring that in, ok, because you said a lot
Right, but you said that meanwhat you said.
I agree with right, that mainthing if we could, if we could
fix that one thing, we could fixa lot.
So what would that one thing be?

Speaker 5 (21:41):
trust and, um, I could be an uncle.
Just stop putting a sum to it.
Just do it, because we'resupposed to do it now, because
we have unrealistic expectationsof what we're going to get in
return.
That's the law of one, allah,all one.
It means that Allah isunconditional.
Selflessness, it's not acondition, can't be part of all

(22:02):
these ciphers based onconditions.
That's not God, that's not real.
That's hojic.
Brown table fell bread isunconditional.
We got to do it just becauseit's the right thing to do, man,
and not because we're gettingsomething out of it.
Then things start fixingthemselves.
I'm telling you what I know byknowing gods, that I know for 30

(22:26):
, 40 years.
And we do it.
We've done so much with solittle that we could just about
do anything with nothing,because we did the most
important thing we becamebrothers and we stopped putting
conditions on it.
We really love each other anddo right.
Man by right, we can fix itReal simple.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
All right, now I hear you right.
That's one side.
The way I see it is we need tocontrol our own education.
I think that is the, the keythat is paramount.
I think if we could do that onething and control our own
education, I think that couldfix a lot more of the things

(23:07):
Right, fix a lot more otherthings right, because, let's say
, if the Black Roundtable hadtheir own school, own school
system, that's apart from theway the American school system
has everything structured to,where you have to basically do
everything they.
You gotta follow their protocolif you want to have a school

(23:28):
right.
I think we gotta kind of likeseparate from that For our part,
and self, guys.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
School is not what you get from somebody else.
Education, man, school iseducation, is drawing them up
into the oneness of themselves.
Bro, we're giving them.
We got a school.
The school is the round tablebecause we're drawing it up.
We're going to educate ourbabies.
We do that anyway.
You got to give them game.

(23:56):
You got to give them the G-codeand you got to give them the
devil shit too.
Man, the G-code is athoroughbred gorilla nigga who
keeps it real in the basicfundamentals of this shit.
So you got to lace them withboth sides.
I don't want my sons to be someweird ass holy roller, widow,
up-balance niggas, man.
They need the G-Cult to operateand be effective in this

(24:18):
demonic, dark, funny-style shit.
Ain't no laws in war?
Ain't no rules.
Niggas be saying you got anigga.
Ain't no law or rule.
When you in war, man,everything go.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I want to move forward with the questions, so
let's go with the questions,right, Because we have five
questions here.
So now the first question iswhat are the first steps to
remove the invisible lines ofthe Berlin Conference which are

(24:52):
designed to divide us intocontrollable cults?

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Pardon me, sir, but that's from.
That's from the last show.
We don't know, oh my bad.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Pardon me, pardon me.
What are the African commondenominators among Africa's many
cultures?
Common denominators which donot have colonial roots and
demonstrate a continuity?

Speaker 2 (25:18):
and a oneness within African culture.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
African culture.
So let me just say today'sdegree is the 14th and that
represents in nation, now nation, or in.
So knowledge and culture showsyou, if you knowledge the

(25:51):
culture of each nation, itallows you to be able to see the
nation clearly.
But if you don't knowledge theculture of the different nations
that make up our people, theethnicities, the history, it's
difficult for you to be able to,you know, make a good bond with
them.
If you might have just saw howthe television represented these
folks, you know who knows how,you know how the devil
misrepresent people.
But if you take out the time toknowledge these culture that's
amongst our what I call ourinternationality It'd be easy

(26:15):
for you to deal with thesepeople and if they take out the
time to knowledge our culture aswell.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
So respect right there.

Speaker 5 (26:23):
Just like that brother just said he knowledge
this culture from America andfrom the Caribbean.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
So he can add on some , he can intelligently engage.
But if all you've heard is liesabout people and all they heard
about is lies about you, that'san 85% conversation.
I'd rather have a 5%conversation, like what we have
in people that are informed andpeople that have culture.
Because they have culture, theyhave refinement.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
That's a much better conversation.
That's I'm glad.
I'm glad you mentioned that and, just like brother duane's
mentioned, my family, as I saidbefore, are from haiti.
And one thing my pops alwaystold me when he came to this
country, he always told me tolearn the history of where you
live at the terrain and I'mgonna teach you your history,
where your family comes from.
And he always said you will notsee any difference, just in
language.
The struggle is the same, justdifference in language.

(27:16):
But these are your brothers.
The same plight you faced, thesame struggles you faced, they
faced as well, and I seen it allaround because you know, you
know it's just, it's a humanthing, it's a social thing.
You have criminality, you havepoverty, you have lack of
education, lack of resources.
This is a human condition, butit's a human condition imposed
by imperialists.

(27:36):
But you will know that peopleof African descent are one, just
different landmass.
Yeah, we strive for the samething.

Speaker 5 (27:46):
We already know we won.
We're just distrustful andselfish.
We don't want to deal with eachother unconditionally.
We keep putting a condition onit.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Of course that's the problem.
This is why I welcome anyone Ijust don't deal with.
Like you said, I'm with Vic.
I don't deal with the weirdostuff.
You get what I'm saying.
I don't deal with the weirdos.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
So, like the brother of Morris science, typical of
America he's right now to me,he's spot on.
He's spot on fixing the problem.
The solutions, the problemsstart here, go here, here.
These are all like the mainpoints.

(28:28):
Yeah, exactly, these are allthe main points.
So now, um, you're saying thecommon denominator is the
european or the white man, right?

Speaker 3 (28:42):
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't say that, I wouldsay he, he's intelligent enough
to acknowledge all the differentcultures that exist amongst us
and use it to his advantage.
I think we could learn thatfrom him to knowledge all the
different cultures and you cansee the oneness you know.
Yeah, instead of it beingversus blood, and East versus

(29:07):
West, and nice, you know, nowobserve the whole thing and take
the best parts of all of it.
And then now we got something.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
That's the worst part , that's the problem period.
I figured it out a little whilein my 30s man, you got to be
unconditional.
You got to do it just becauseit's the right thing to do, and
then some things I can't explainit to, just because it's the
right thing to do, and thensometimes I can't explain it to
you because it's an experienceand all you brothers that are
young, you're going to beinvolved into it.

(29:36):
It's just mathematics.
I'm almost wildly shy for 60,man, and you got some stuff
backing you up, man.
It ain't as hard as peoplethink it is, bro.
It's a lot more to this thanthe way we got a galactic
federation, bro.

(29:57):
I'm not going to go into thatright now.
It's way we laced, since we gotto have poise and intelligence
enough to come with solutions.
If we're going to check thedevil, the white man, our little
badass kid, make him come clean.
To me, all this shit is justtalk.
We ain't going to go check thedevil.
Make him come clean.
Get Zulu to boot it for realshit, salute it and make him

(30:21):
come clean.
That's the G-code man.
That's what the Moors did.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
They went to white people they landed on their shit
and made them come clean.
Yo, vic, I agree with whatyou're saying, just like the
Morris brothers said in thecomments.
I'm all for that Because thisis something that Brother Ron
and I spoke about, that withProject PAR.
I always say we got to have ourown educational systems, but
first we got to have dialogue.
You cannot, we cannot speakabout having you know nationhood

(30:49):
and unity without communication, respect, trust.
We got to have to see you knowcommunication, respect, trust,
crt.
We got to do that withourselves and then from there we
could take brothers with theirtalent that has talent and you
know whatever it is frommathematics, building, medical

(31:09):
and we could establish our owninstitutions.
You understand, and that's howwe'll work, work, work, work,
work on our families.
Yeah, we got to work on ourfamilies and to add on to weird
stuff is that we got tobasically police our own,
because we could easily say it'sthe white man's fault.
White man's fault.
To me, that's an old song we'vebeen singing for a while.
We know what they have done.
White men's fault to me, that'san old song we've been singing

(31:31):
for a while.
We know what they have done.
The problem because because youknow, it's just like they have
so-called white devils, we haveblack devils as well amongst our
own, you understand.
And my thing is integrity.
Our people need to have moreintegrity and be realistic
indeed, let's.

Speaker 1 (31:42):
Let's go to the next question.
The next question is six.
Why do so many so-calledAfrican leaders and governments
celebrate individualism ratherthan a continental collectivism?
What monetary benefits comewith this?

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Well, I think that one.
It kind of applies to whatwe're looking at, burkina Faso,
because, okay, let's just thinkabout this real quick.
If you look all throughout thecontinent, particularly, you
kind of see the same problem.
Okay, now some of the leadersthat are in power now will tell
you, oh, this takes more than alittle bit of time to fix.

(32:31):
That's the story.
They say, right, it doesn'tchange overnight.
Okay, but in Burkina Faso thisbrother is like the same age as
Dwayne here.
Okay, mr Traore, he's the sameage as Dwayne.
He's flipped the shit in what?
Three years.
So how do these other countriesexplain that's a good point,

(32:55):
just saying, man, these peoplehave been in power way longer
than him and they have not had,haven't had one-tenth of the
success that he had in threeyears, in 20 years.
So, hmm, you know, there has tobe some type of complicity
between these people who arerunning these governments and
the people that's running them.
You know that's what I'm saying, because he showed us it can

(33:17):
happen.
In three years he didn't justfix one part of the nation, he
fixed the mining situation, theliving situation, the food
growing situation.
He cut the officers and thepoliticians and the
parliamentarians' salary to addon to the people.
So don't take that long, justtake the willingness.

Speaker 5 (33:39):
What did you tell me?
The main thing he did, whichone?
The cracker out?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Oh yeah, that was the first thing, he checked the
devil.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Told him to beat it Beat it, beat it, beat it Ran
the devil from amongst it, ortook the devil off this planet,
off his land.
We don't say we didn'tknowledge these lessons.
We really need to knowledgethem off this land.
We don't acknowledge theselessons.
We really need to acknowledgethem, man.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Right Now.
What were you saying, mag?
You were going somewhere withthat.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
No, I was saying you know.
So when we talk about peoplethat are getting incentives
monetary incentives to bedivided, you can look kind of at
the continent and see it's not.
It's not odd that they're stuckin a situation because the
brother showed us in three years, look at all the progress he's
made, I mean againstinsurmountable odds.

(34:39):
Man France said they was goingto do this.
Equal watch said they was goingto do this.
America said they was going todo this.
But he still got his peopletogether and moved forward and
kept moving forward because hehad the willingness and he did
away with the fear.
And you know, I mean let's keepit a buck.
They tried a lot of stuff thereand it didn't work.
So they said, look, we got toput this man out of our business

(35:01):
and we got to handle ourbusiness and look where they're
at.
You know, yeah, I'm sure theyhad a whole lot of stuff to do,
but they still mashed out onwhat they did agree on.

Speaker 4 (35:13):
But you know about that situation, though a few
days ago there was ademonstration going on in
Burkina Faso in support of theleader there and one of the
demonstrators said that theyremembered what happened to
Thomas Sankara and they're notabout to let that happen again.
So what we're seeing in BurkinaFaso is the sense of the people

(35:34):
know their history, theyremember what happened in the
1980s when Thomas Sankara wasthe president and they're not
about to let that history repeatitself.
So we see that power in beingable to go back into our history
and to take the lessons fromthe history and to correct them
that we made in the past.
So they they recognize that oneof the mistakes they made with
Thomas and Cara is that theydidn't do enough to protect him,
and we see that throughouttheir history.

(35:55):
I mean, think about how manygreat leaders we've had that
have been assassinated and wehave to start asking you know,
should we have been doing moreto protect these leaders?

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Exactly, hmm, good one.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Your own answer?
You have no.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
Security and first world First mind Go get an idea.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
All right, let's go to Mike.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
You got the seventh question Definitely what role
does religion play within thedivision today and yesterday?
Are there religions which arecontinental and push back and
oppose the perceived division?

Speaker 3 (36:35):
Man.
I would say that's kind of oneof the hidden hands that keeps
the continent and us on a globallevel divided, and we don't
necessarily consider that likewe used to divided and we don't
necessarily consider that likewe used to, but I would say
that's one of the primary things, particularly on the continent,
because that's the one thingthat's in all these places is a

(36:56):
church or a mosque, and whatthey both have done have kind of
shitted on the originalpeople's culture and took the
people away from their cultureand made it to where you had to
pick either your indigenousculture or the religion in most
of these places.
In fact, if we look at theCatholic Church, that's been
just watch Nollywood, watch howit's always the natural voodoo

(37:20):
person against the Catholicpriest and they're going head to
head and they're making anatural voodoo culturalist
person look evil and bad.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Right.

Speaker 3 (37:32):
Yeah, it's just the way it is.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
I always went with the voodoo culture when I
watched the movies.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
I had to stop watching it because I was like
man, it's like this guy didn'tcast a spell on the preacher's
wife and stuff and I'm like man,that ain't cool man.
I mean it was some realdisrespectful stuff, man.
And I've just noticed that alot of people who I meet from
back home check it out now, whenyou meet somebody from Africa,
they'll be like a Holy Ghost,real Jesus-type person, man.

(38:01):
And they won't be able to tellyou nothing about their culture,
man.
So there's something going onthere.

Speaker 5 (38:11):
If you look, you know if you kind of pull back the
shade.
Can I add on to that, lord?
Come on, I want to add on towhat you said, bro.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Hold on, vic.
One second.
Dwayne had something to say.
Okay, what'd you get?

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Yes, I was just going to add on.
You know what's so deep aboutthat is when you talk to a lot
of you know brothers and sistersfrom the continent.
You know Christian and Muslimthey can't tell you much about
their religion.
You know, if we're being honestbecause I know, you know I have
a lot of friends who come fromIslamic background how it is in
the continent is you're forcedto memorize the Quran in Arabic,

(38:45):
but you can't speak Arabic, soyou don't even know what it is
you're reading.
And it's the same thing with theBible.
You know a lot of our people goto churches where the preacher
is not even encouraging them toread the Bible, because the
preacher is hoping they don'tread the Bible so that the
preacher could then use thereligion to manipulate them.
What we have to look at withthese religions is not just the
conflict between you know, theAbrahamic religions and the
African cultures, but the factthat a lot of people who
practice these religions don'treally know anything about these
religions.

(39:05):
And the final point I'll makeon this is if you really
understood your religion as aChristian or Muslim, there
shouldn't be any conflict.
The Bible and the Quran bothtells you you can't impose your
religion on another human.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
But the reason why religion was created was to
divide people.
It wasn't created to unitepeople.
That's why they create.
That's how they use religion tomake you rely on something else
who we are naturally.
That's what they took us awayfrom.
The whole objective withreligion and indoctrination was

(39:38):
to take you away from yoursource and make you feel ashamed
of your voodoo power, yourability when you was a little
kid and you used to haveinvisible friends and shit.
Your ability, your supernaturalGod powers Real shit bro.
Your ancestral you know, yourunderstanding, how we understood
the universe and map the starsand all this stuff Made
astrology to be some dark,demonic pseudo weirdo.

(40:01):
Really, it's a part of ourculture, all this stuff and they
use all of this stuff insecrecy.
These demonic people use it.
Hold on, Brother.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Rick Dwayne was getting to a point right there,
something pivotal he was sayingat the moment before you
interjected, but I appreciatewhat you said.
You were saying something aboutreligion.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
The point I was about to make is, when you read the
Bible, jesus actually tells hisdisciples to go out and make
converts among the other nations, but he tells them, if you
encounter people who don't agreewith your message, to depart
from those individuals and againread the Quran.
The Quran actually says there'ssupposed to be no compulsion in
religion.
So part of the problem that'shappening is people on the
continent who are actuallytaking these religions and

(40:44):
taking these books and using itto manipulate it in a way that's
abusing our people, andunfortunately, it's the same
thing with even a lot ofindigenous, traditional African
spiritual practices.
I mentioned Togo earlier.
One of the things that thegovernment in Togo does is it
uses religious leaders topromote its dictatorship, and
not just Christian religiousleaders, not just Islamic
religious leaders.
It's using voodoo priests aswell to do what it's doing.

(41:05):
Religious leaders, it's usingvoodoo priests as well to do
what he's doing.
So when you think about thereligious problems in Africa, a
big part of that problem is alot of these practices are being
manipulated and exploited to dothings that are being corrupted
, and we're seeing that, like Isaid, not just with Christianity
and with Islam, but even withthese traditional African
practices as well.
So a lot of these conflictsreally just come from the fact

(41:26):
that people are practicingreligions, practicing spiritual
belief systems that they knownothing about, because the
people who are manipulating them, using these systems to
manipulate them, don't want themto actually know what they're
about and what it is thatthey're actually practicing.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Exactly, and that comes down to one word integrity
.
These politicians andindividuals not only politicians
, individuals are easily bought,and this is why.
I have a problem with peoplethat kick that too much, that
religious stuff.
I'm not bashing it.
But when you're constantlyrepeating and not allowing
people to go out there andresearch for themselves to find
the truth, that's another formof imprisonment.

(42:00):
So let's jump directly intothis we touched on that directly
into this being that we touchedon that.
On number eight, is it possiblefor us to forge a new form of
spirituality, religion whichhighlights unity rather than the
vision to break down theobstacles?
White supremacy has deeplyrooted into our current
religious practices.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
Spirit means to breathe Spirit, the root word of
spirituality.
Spiritus means to breathespirit, the root word of
spirituality.
Spiritist means to breathe.
Until the original people startbreathing from their higher
self, from their, in, theirenergy and their aura and their
real, because your emotions andthoughts aren't inside of your
body, when you feel that it'sjust a response to what's

(42:46):
happening, to your energeticfield, your aura.
We have to start some real,serious work on ourselves, man.
Spiritual surgery.
We need a form of spiritualsurgery immediately and speedily
.
I'm going to say that I've hadspiritual surgery and it worked.
It may sound how it sounds, butI'm telling you, if you want to

(43:08):
get the best results and thefastest, get the shit done.
A lot of it is just weight,it's energy.
If we can get past the fear andthe bullshit, the false ideas
and concepts.
What is happening now?
Already, young people arealready on it.

(43:30):
All this stuff is alreadyhappening.
But what I add to the cipher isthere's things we can do to
expedite it.
Man, the attack is not thatthese people you're talking
about.
They're doing energy work onyou, man.
They're master manipulators ofyour energy.
That wasn't mentioned in 120.

(43:51):
They didn't mention in thewisdom builder.
They got motherfuckers that cando you in with thought forms
and they're attacking yourenergy and your aura, man.
That's what they're attackingblack people's energy and aura.
Go do the knowledge to it.

(44:12):
It's not something that we cantake lightly and that's
interfering with all the thingsthat the divine order is trying
to give us man, all this supremeintelligence and all this stuff
we absorb through our melaninfrom the divine order.
But they're attacking ourenergy, man, that part of us, so
we got to take that partserious too.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
All right now.
Now you said, you said um.
So the question reads is itpossible for us to forge a new
form of spirituality slash?

Speaker 5 (44:43):
that's the new form of spirituality, your natural
state, your natural self.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Hold on, go ahead, let him finish.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
Go ahead, mac.
Well, I think if we look closeenough, okay, at what we're all
doing.
What we're all doing, notnecessarily what religion that
we belong to.
If we look close enough at whatwe're all doing, all of us,
we'll just take us, we'll find acommon denominator within our
way of life.
When I say our way of life, I'mnot talking about necessarily

(45:17):
your particular culture, I'mtalking about your particular
spiritual culture.
We'll be able to say, yeah,that's right and exact, that's
right and exact, that's rightand exact.
And if we move the religiousstuff and exact, that's right
and exact, that's right andexact.
And if we move the religiousstuff, the rituals and stuff, to
the side, we'll be like, yeah,I agree with that, I agree with
that.
And I think that's what peopleare coming to today.
And people have come to therealization that these things,
these false religions, havedivided us and put false walls

(45:40):
in between us.
And we're looking at theessence of who we are and I'm
able to see myself in all ofy'all Serious, and we live in
all different places, with theexception of me and Vic, but I'm
able to see myself in all ofy'all and I think that's what it
comes down to Moving thesuperficial stuff to the side.
So just saying Nothing can stopthat for us.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Alright.
Now I would say to thatquestion I don't think You're
saying yeah, nothing can stopthat force?

Speaker 4 (46:08):
All right.
Now I would say to thatquestion I don't think we need
to forge a new spirituality or anew religion necessarily.
What I would say is whatever itis you're practicing, whatever
it is that you connect to,master that, and I think that's
the problem I was speaking tobefore, that we don't know
anything about that, we haven'tmastered.

(46:29):
So I don't think we need toform a new one, just master what
it is that you have.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, and respect to one another.
The key thing is respect,because you could be Christian,
muslim.
Whatever you choose to be.
I respect you as long as youare a righteous human being.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
I'm not going to bash you.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I'm not going to debate your religion.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
But that's why I made the point that you know, when
you're going back toChristianity and Islam, when you
actually master what thosereligions are about and you read
the text and you master thosetexts, there shouldn't be any
conflict.
The texts themselves tell youthere shouldn't be conflict.
If you're a Muslim and yourQuran is telling you there's no
compulsion in religion, whywould you want to go create a
conflict with somebody and tryto impose your religion on that

(47:07):
individual?
Something you'll master thosereligions, actually study the
religions and study what it isthat you profess to believe and
practice it.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Well, I mean, if I approach you as just based upon
that what religion you are andif you approach me based upon
that, based upon what religionyou think I am or what religious
background, sometimes it couldbe some barriers in the way.
So I'm going to always respectthat man's religion.
You know his culture andwhatnot and where he come from,

(47:33):
but at the same time I want toapproach him just as a man and
as a mind, or her as a personand as a mind.
You know what I mean.
And then I think we might get alittle further, because
sometimes maybe the experienceI've had with Christianity will
not be the same experience thatI have with a particular
Christian.
You know what I mean, but thenthat person could show me

(47:54):
through expression a better partof Christianity than what I've
already seen.
You know, that's all that I'msaying.
I'm not saying do away with itor nothing, because there's some
beautiful parts of all thesereligions.
Away with it or nothing becausethere's some beautiful parts of
all these religions.
However, you know, I don't.
I judge the religion based uponits principles, not based upon
its converts.

(48:15):
You know what I mean, becausethe person might be
misrepresenting.
But that don't make thereligion bad.
You see what I'm saying.
Yeah, you know, it's stillvaluable to me, you know.
But at the same time thereligion might be doing some
kind of you know what I mean.
But then this person over herethat's in it might be all to the
good and I'd be like, well,that's my brother, you know, I

(48:36):
don't like what his church isdoing, but that's my brother,
you know, I don't like what they, moms, are doing, how they
moving.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
But that's still my brother over there and you know,
know, I think, I think we'llget a better equality out of
that, you know.
All right, I want to.
I want to ask, um, uh, can yougive me so?
Question nine can you give ussome practical examples of
cross-cultural continental unity?
That's one, uh, you give usexamples of nations which are
welcoming to foundational BlackAmericans within continental
Africa.

Speaker 2 (49:18):
Beautiful.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
I'm definitely looking for those things.
I've seen some that they'llwelcome us as tourists, but I
haven't really seen ones thathave really made a way for us to
be able to come and stay and beable to thrive and whatnot.
I haven't seen that, but myvision is limited.
Maybe someone else has seenthat, you know, because we're

(49:46):
definitely looking to come.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
I've been having an interesting going on, Lord, Me
and my wife.
We travel the world, man, andso you know, sometimes I watch
these videos on YouTube.
You know good places for blackpeople, countries that are
friendly to black people.
Check that out, Tap that in,Tap that on YouTube.
And, man, man, I must say thatI used to have that attitude

(50:11):
even on the continent.
There's some countries overthere that welcome you, man,
want you to come and add on andwelcome us with open arms, and
there's a lot of powerful blackcommunities of people like us
that wanted to move and traveland become more internationally
involved, diplomatic, involved,diplomatic.

(50:31):
I got a lot of insight from alot of black people, man, that
live in some places that wewouldn't even expect that black
people would be in this day andage.
The here and the now, that'swhat I'm talking about.
What's really going on?
It's both ways.
It's some funny style stuff too, but we're the wisest people on

(50:52):
the planet, man.
We got the highest technology,highest IQ and probably the
richest group of people in theworld collectively in America.
So we got the juice.
I had Africans tell me.
They said, man, if you go tosuch and such country, man,
they'll love you from the UnitedStates and you a G.
I was like, oh shit, Africansup in Europe.
Yeah, man, they'll love youfrom the United States.
A-u-r-g.
I was like, oh shit, Africansup in Europe.

(51:15):
Yeah, man, it's different forthe black man in certain
countries than here.
You can go to certain placesand have your way.
I know, bro, I'm trying to tellyou it ain't as bad as down the
continent.
You got to contend with niggasNiggas thing with niggas.
It's a nigga thing, it's othernigga shit.
But I'm just speaking aboutAfrica.
I haven't seen it in Africa.

(51:36):
If we just want to deal withthe continent, I don't think we
were there yet.
We're moving there, we're goingin the right direction, as long
as we go in the right direction.
You know it's slow, it's goingto speed up, but we're not there
yet.
But other places that welcomeus Black folks are thriving in

(51:56):
real talk, see.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
All right now, mike, you want to go with the last
question, most definitely holdon, which is 10.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
All right, let's go Discuss delineation how African
tribal families becomexenophobic due to invaders as a
protection method by some.
By the same token, fba haveexperienced the same experience
and have a result define andredefine our tribe.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
Well, you know this, if we look at, we can go all the
way back to the Ptolemies, okay, who were the Roman generals
who came in and invaded some ofthe first real invaders of
Africa, and how they wanted tochange up the color, they wanted
to capture the trade routes,you know, and just change up the
culture and kind of move intothat part of the continent.

(52:49):
You see what I'm saying, intothat part of the continent.
You see what I'm saying.
As a result of that, so muchinvasion happened, particularly
people that are on the borders,near the water.
They became like garrisons andthey became very xenophobic on
certain levels.
That's why you saw the tribeskind of go like this with each

(53:11):
other and kind of be weary ofother tribes, because sometimes
this tribe will be armed againstthis tribe and this tribe has
made an agreement with the devilto attract, to get some guns
and some barrels of alcohol toattack this tribe.
So as a result, the xenophobiareally became intensified within
the continent.
It shouldn't be fear ofstrangers because they look just

(53:33):
like you but maybe they don'tthink like you and you don't
know what type of deal they'dhave made.
This happened so much.
It created kind of thetribalism that we see on the
continent.
Okay, by the same token, blackpeople in America have run into
the same thing, and not only wasit other black people like us
that was coming against us, butit was white people as well

(53:53):
coming against us, not justtrying to take from us and kill
us and whatnot, but to take ourculture, break us down and
re-enslave us.
So we had the same kind ofxenophobic thing going on as
well.
So we understand how peoplehave their ethnicities and their
different tribes.
We get that.
That's very understandable.
However, we're at a point nowwhere Black people in America

(54:17):
are saying okay, well, this isour tribe.
Okay, y'all have this tribe andyou represent that tribe.
Fpa is saying this is our tribeand this is our experience.
We're not knocking nobodyelse's experience, nobody else's
tribe.
We're just saying this is howwe eat and this is how we've
done it for maybe a good four,five, six hundred years now.
So if other people are allowedto have their tribe and their

(54:41):
ethnicity and their lineage,aren't we allowed to have our
tribe?
You know, I'm not saying wedon't want to sit at the table
with our brothers, but wedeserve to be able to have our
lineage as well, just as likeyou know, just like everybody
does.

Speaker 5 (54:55):
Real talk, lord, we do have a lineage.
That's very unique, man,because we came from all over
and were brought into thewilderness of North America.
We probably have the strongest,most highest IQ, biochemical we
have the strongest.
We dominate the world in sports, mental, physical, spiritual.
It's the reason why thiscountry is so powerful and

(55:15):
considered the world power,because of us.
No question about that, I'm nottrying to say it, man.
I know people don't play butnobody's taller than this, than
the black man in the wildernessof North America, because nobody
knows the devil better than us.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
That's a real important part there.
But if you subtract blackculture from America, you ain't
even got no gristle on that bonethere, damn sure ain't no meat
on that bone.
There's nothing left.
You know, nobody would want toeven be here, nobody would want
to even associate with this, ifwe had not given what we gave.

(55:55):
And since, ok, now, when you gowithin with culture Right,
because they won't let yououtwardly practice it it becomes
spirituality.
You see what I'm saying whenyou practice, when you go inward
with culture and you practiceon the inside, you're thinking
about it, you're meditating onit.
Because you can't go outwardbecause it's outlawed, it

(56:15):
becomes spirituality.
So we're really seriouslymarinated into the people that
we've become in new york and newjersey and philly and miami and
texas and alabama and atlanta,where that shit is really, and
then we were, uh, our phenotypewas, uh, quarantined to where we
couldn't mix with nobody butblack you know.

(56:37):
So this, this is like reallymultiplied and marinated man,
this culture that we're talkingabout here, and I think it's
gonna, um, help us to be able togo abroad and take many of
these talents that we have toother places if more people
respect what people are nowpopularly calling FBA culture
man, because we have a lot togive.

(56:59):
We have a lot of mechanics,scientists, artists, teachers,
very highly skilled people, butwe don't want to go somewhere
and have somebody who doesn'tacknowledge our culture and
respect our culture, and I'msure they feel the same way.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
Well, the way we're depicted through media
influences the world and givesthem a wrong image.
I would say the wrong image.
And that's, I would say, one ofthe biggest issues, and that's
the that's, I would say one ofthe biggest issues.

(57:35):
Because now you know,especially like, like, when I I
talk to different people and Ihave discussions with different
races, if you will Right,whether it be white, european,
or even our people, africanpeople Right, african people
right, especially those who arefrom the continent, sometimes

(57:55):
they, like a good majority, willput us in that boat.
Like, yeah, 50 Cent.
Like 50 Cent, like rappersMichael Jordan.
You know what I mean?
Oh yeah, Slavery.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Try to shrink us down .
Oh yeah, Slavery.
Try to shrink us down.
You know why.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
The lowest common denominator.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
That depiction is played on both ends because they
were able to pick the hip-hopthug off the street.
You know delinquent society andthey'll do the same thing from
the African, from the continentof the Caribbean, as poor,
decrepit slavery in Bristol.
Yeah, so you got to understand.
As Professor Griff said, that'snot conspiracy theory, like
with the media, maniac Europeandevils in action, you understand

(58:44):
.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
I like that.

Speaker 5 (58:46):
You got to salute a motherfucking.
It's going to keep it real withyou.
So this is what I'm going tosay real quick and then I'm
going to be done with it.
You got to salute thismotherfucking.
Respect him, man.
He's telling you how he's doing, showing you how he's doing it,
and the only way he's effectivewith it is because you won't
work together.
Again, the problem is unity,man.
It's something we can fixWorking together.

(59:09):
Sometimes you got to sit downand don't leave until you
resolve it, but you have to bebrothers and diplomatic and one
of solution and resolution.
Bring some energy and idealsand some arts and skills along
with you.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Indeed Salute.
Well, thank y'all for comingout this evening.
I really appreciate you.
We're coming back with theBlack Roundtable next week.
Again, back to back, that's afact.
I would definitely like to hearmore from the Brother Dwayne.
I see Brother Dwayne as someonewith a whole different view and

(59:47):
experience because he's from adifferent generation, you know.
So he's that younger generation.

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Ivan Van Sertema.
That's the Ivan Van Sertemaright there, awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
He's like that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
There you go.
I agree with that.
He's definitely like a VanSertema, young Van Sertema.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
Beautiful man.
Thank you all for coming outthis evening.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Really appreciate y'all, and we'll be back on the
podcast Sunday, but I'm playinglike a rerun or flashback,
flashback Friday, something thaty'all never saw before.

Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
Alright, alright, lord peace and blessings
brothers, something that y'allsaw before or not.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
if you're new to the platform, you didn't see.
Peace everybody.
And we are out of here.
We're out Peace.

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