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Speaker 1 (00:09):
what's going on?
Everybody is ron brown lmt, thepeople's fitness professional,
alongside magnetic of the blackround table.
Peace to the god.
I did.
I muted your mic because youasked me to, but I put you back
on.
Peace, peace, peace, peace.
Lord, how you be.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Man, I'm wise and
civilized family.
I was hearing about that storyand it happened in New York, but
we're going to keep it on thegood foot.
But I was a little worriedabout y'all, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that thing that happened in
Manhattan.
I didn't find out about ituntil you told me.
Yeah, cause I try to keep mymind away from this society.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I hear you.
I'm not really in the societylike that yeah, good, cause you
don't need to be in.
There's too much wild stuffgoing on.
So you know it's good to seeyou't need to be, and there's
too much wild stuff going on, soyou know it's good to see you
family, good to see you man,good to good to be black at you,
and here on nyp, talk shizzle.
Yes, sir, about to give youthis piece the seven cities of
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america.
This one is like.
It's like a sketch of, uh, myimage of how our independent
black cities will eventuallylook in the future, something
that's kind of inevitablebecause these things oil and
water is going to naturallyseparate itself.
Likewise with people who don'treally see eye to eye Right.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Indeed.
So you want me to play that now?
Yes, sir, all right, let it ripindeed.
So you want me to play that now?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
yes, sir, all right
many foundational black
americans grew tired of theinner cities.
From the inherent racism of thehiring policies to the poor
schools, all of these factorscombined had made the black
inner city unbearable for theblack family.
Prior to this, blacks hadforced the black inner city
unbearable for the black family.
Prior to this, blacks hadforced the Republican Party and
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Democratic Party to agree toreparations.
This was done to quell thegrowing tide of disillusionment
to America's endemic racismtowards FBA.
By this time, over 85% ofAmerica's population was black,
according to the Depth ofCommerce one-drop rule, a rule
which had significantly expandedthe black population in America
while shrinking the whitepopulation Population and power.
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By this time, foundationalblack Americans occupied over
60% of the armed forces and 33%of the high-ranking officers.
America conceded to this basedupon a conclusion that most of
America's business communityagreed upon Inner City Stimulus
Fund.
This was the fact thatReparations is an inner city
stimulus fund which wouldbenefit all the businesses
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within the inner city as well asfoundational black Americans.
A group of 14,400 picked up andmoved to a county called Lowndes
County, alabama.
After five years, the countywas renamed Amorica, the primary
capital city of this countybeing Bastet Bastet, seeking to
reap the reward denied forcenturies and to enjoy a newly
found wealth.
We quietly reconnectedourselves to the land.
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Amorica became the first ofmany metropolitan, economic,
cultural centers forAfro-Asiatics in America.
Bastet was a city of 1600.
All of Bastet's citizens werehighly skilled and many of
Bastet's observers referred toit as the real Wakanda or the
return of Rosewood.
Many of the baby boomergeneration were afraid to live
in such a place Due to all therumors and the lies told about
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Amorica.
Amorica's GDP produced moremoney than all of the other
counties, regions of America andstates combined.
So the anti-black racists, whoby this time numbered less than
6% of America's population, usedcaution and discretion when
dealing with Amorica.
Half of the world's top-leadingengineers and agriculturalists
lived in Bastet.
The most highly skilledengineers and agriculturalists
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that the world had seen were allconcentrated into seven
companies located in Bastet,america.
Anything they wanted to grow,they grew.
Anything that theagriculturalists couldn't grow,
the engineers built Plants thatwere thought extinct were
strengthened through themasterful crossbreeding of plant
species.
All the machines were upgradedto a higher, cutting-edge
standard of engineering, createdout of a non-centralized energy
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source, which was overabundantEnergy source, much of it was
drawn from the magnetism foundin the waters of the Atlantic
Enough magnetic ore to power allnine planets.
For a millennium, 25 Africancountries had their embassies in
Amorica.
Their diplomats spent more timein Amorica than they did in
their own countries.
Amorica even had an observerstatus within the AU.
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Amorica, being a seat offoundational Black American
diplomacy, had a lobby withfriendships in all walks of life
.
This lobby was known as theBlack Freedmen's Bureau.
This is the story of theirlives, their families and their
stories of resilience in doingwhat Rosewood, black Wall Street
and so many other Black townsonly dreamed about
Self-determination.
Amorica dreamed aboutSelf-determination.
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Amorica the money that themelanated mind made Amaru.
The second most populated cityof Amorica is called Amaru.
Amaru is populated by a blackagricultural society of planters
and farmers.
Amaru is founded in thetradition of George Washington
Carver, the agriculturalengineer and innovator.
Amaru was founded to assurethat all seven counties of
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Amorica have all of thenecessary agricultural support
needed to sustain them, and thisthey did.
Many of the black farmers fromall over the diaspora came to
assist this endeavor, to composeand build the Black Planter
Party, a group of activists fromall over the world who taught
poor communities advancedfarming and hydroponic systems
of irrigation.
Many of these men and women hadworked with Colonel Mouma
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Gaddafi to irrigate the drydeserts of Libya.
Many of the blacks from SouthAmerica had come, and about 35%
of Amaru was of black Braziliandescent.
People who were disappointedand dissatisfied with the
mistreatment and racism whichwas normalized into Brazilian
culture, had come to join ontothe minds and the cooperative
spirit of growth and enrichmentwithin Amaru.
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Amorica, ella Baker, was thethird city of the seven cities
of Amorica.
Ella Baker was a renowned civilrights activist who united the
movement and guided many freedomwriters and civil rights
activists.
Ella Baker was a city comprisedof 170 universities and 20
trade schools.
These schools attracted andtrained the finest minds within
every field, founded upon theprinciples of cooperation and
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interdisciplinary study.
All of the city's schoolsproduced geniuses, trendsetters
and adopters.
Slackers and underachieverssteered far away from the
universities within the city ofElla Baker, the two primary
institutions being Muhammad Aliand Queen Mother Moore.
These two schools taught theteachers who educated all seven
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counties.
Not only did they do it, butthey did it with pride,
appreciation and genuine love inhonor of Mother Ella Baker.
This is why we calluniversities such as those Alma
Mater our other mother.
Imagine an entire citydedicated and focused on
education, the development ofthe mind, a city in which the
sole goal is to remember theblack mind.
This is the reality of EllaBaker, one of the black cities
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of Amorica.
The city of Khaled Khaled wasthe fourth city of Amorica, a
city designed like the immunesystem of the body, a necessary
component to any society,designed to detect potential
viruses and agents ofdisorientation within the seven
cities.
Many agencies existed withinthis city infrastructure,
intelligence, the army, the airforce and the navy.
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Nevertheless, they operated asone body to keep all potential
threats to Amorica at bay.
Amaru made certain that Khalidwas well stocked with the
highest quality of foods to feedeach of these units and to
provide them with the highestlevel of health and fitness, as
well as mental health.
Khalid not only trained thebest all-around full-service
specialists, but they alsotaught community emergency
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preparedness to the whole ofAmorica.
The fifth city Shabazz.
The fifth city was the city ofShabazz, a city dedicated to
training the best athletes inthe world.
Shabazz did not participate inall sports, only specified
fields of track, tennis, boxing,basketball, soccer, pool and
golf.
Each one had a sports centerbuilt to house its events, one
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in each of the seven cities todrive inner city commerce.
Shabazz has a huge airport.
To facilitate the ever-growingtourist visitors that frequent
the Shabazz Games within theseven cities, many of them held
within the city of Shabazz,usually championship games are
held in nearby cities.
Gambling was also facilitatedhere in Shabazz.
This was for the purpose ofraising money to fortify the
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emergency fund.
The sixth city is called Teknala.
Teknala designs, makes andmanufactures all of the tech
that powers America.
Teknala is made up a system oftech labs.
These tech labs use all organicmaterials to produce their tech
, using the electromagneticenergy of the air around us.
The engineers of Teknalalearned to harness this force
into a means to power cities.
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They used this force as asource of inexhaustible energy,
also to make batteries, whichbrought energy to places where
it was not.
Technala made products that theworld had always dreamed of but
lacked the imagination and thecooperation to achieve.
The productiveness whichAmerica had always boasted was
finally truly achieved withinthe seven cities of Amorica.
Absent was the Negro naysayersand white supremacists who had
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sabotaged so many efforts likethis one.
This was a replacement to thedisplacement that was a normalcy
of most black life in America.
The seventh city was Atenegos, acity of enlightenment and
spirituality, a city which allof the world's true spiritual
systems were present.
Here they formed a nationalcouncil of elders.
Atenegus attractedspiritualists from all seven
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cities and brought them togetherto exchange notes.
They respected each other'spaths and never sought to
convert each other.
Regardless of theirdisagreements, they saw value
within each walk of spiritualityand knew its place within the
many bricks which comprisedGod's kingdom.
Atenegus could foreseespiritual corruption and
disturbances, so they used theirinsight to restore balance and
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mahat wherever it was disturbedor disrupted.
Religion was not discouraged.
It was further developed,strengthened and fortified.
Each religion was encouragedwithin its conviction to
humanity's development.
These people never separatedthemselves in person or in
identity from the communitiesthat they served.
Many times they served asvision holders and natural
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healers to instruct people inself-medicine, self-healing and
cell regeneration.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
All right, all right,
that was, that was.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Hold on a second, oh
hold on Hold on a second.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
All right, this, this
is your idea of these seven
cities.
So like can you break this down?
And who made those beats rightthere?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
um, let me see who
made them beats.
Man, it was a, it was a, it wasa few fellas, but I think, um,
I think, mainly most of thosebeats was by umofi Cooks.
Yeah, kofi Cooks, he's theproducer that I work with.
He does a lot of hot stuff, youknow.
Y'all check him out, rock withhim.
You know, yeah, yeah, but youknow I like the beats because it
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went with the flow of theimages and stuff.
Right, of the images and stuff.
We always kind of talk aboutthis but rarely do you see
images, real images, of how thiswould look.
This is something I don't know.
If you've been following in thenews, I think it's Arkansas.
They're talking about doingtheir separate little white
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conclave and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
I heard about that.
I saw that online.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I can see.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah, I mean, they've
tried that before.
I'm not salty or nothing, butsome people say that it could
easily turn into a Klan enclave,where it just turns into
something else.
I don't know, but I knowwhenever we tried to do this, we
were always kind of stomped out, flooded out, shot out, bombed
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out.
You know, still we still moveforward and build family,
community, commerce.
You know we still move forwardto do that because that's the
only way you can live.
You know, but this was, this issomething that I kind of see as
inevitable, because certainthings just separate.
Certain things just go theirseparate ways.
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They don't have nothing to dowith hate, it's just.
You know, that's just whatpeople do.
People want to be around theirown and whatnot.
And we're kind of reaching atime where people really want to
be around their own.
You know, they don't want tohave to deal with all that.
You live in New York, which islike what they call a
multicultural city, with allthat.
You live in New York, which islike what they call a
multicultural city.
Sometimes that's cool, but OK,if you're in a multicultural
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city, let's consider this whatcultural rules are we going by?
The black ones, the Asian ones,the Italian ones, the you know
Senegalese ones, the Ghanaianones that you know.
That's a lot of different normsand standards you're dealing
with.
So sometimes, when people wantto go back to their own, accept
their own and be their self, eatthe food that they people eat,
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be in the vibration that theirpeople hold, that's why people
do stuff like this.
It don't have nothing for us.
It doesn't have anything to dowith hating anyone or separating
, because we know wherever we go, there's always going to be
some white folks mixed up in it.
You know, somehow, some way,you know just saying man, you
know, but it should be a place,even if it is where there was
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white people there.
If it's our place, it needs tobe a place that we control.
You know where we control thewater and the resources, etc.
You know the housing because,um, it's not working.
The other way, it's really not.
I mean, no matter what nobodysay, it's clearly not working on
a large scale.
Might be working for a smallpercentage of people, but for
most of us it's not workingExactly, exactly, so so I want
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to talk about the 16 blackMeccas livable cities black
Meccas livable cities Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
So let's build upon
that.
First off, I want to go intothe that seven Amorak video
Seven cities of Morica.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Yes, sir.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Yeah, of Amorica,
right Now.
This is just an idea that youcame up with right Now.
This is just an idea that youcame up with right.
These are like cities that youcame up with.
I think that was great man.
That was so like yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, very creative and
you know that was well thoughtout, that was well thought out
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you know, check the guard out 16Black Meccas.
Let's put this up here 16 BlackMeccas.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, I do a lot of
animated type of stuff because
people need images, man,sometimes to go with ideas.
You know it helps them toreally make things real.
And also I do it for the babies, so it's something that the
babies can watch and enjoy and,you know, see what our future
should look like.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Right Indeed, check
out his YouTube.
A lot of great videos there,great information, great
graphics, beats.
It's entertaining.
Check it out.
So let's build this.
So let's build up on the 16black Meccas, and from here
we're going to start with theEast Coast.
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First off, what made you say,what made you put them in that
context, like 16 black Meccas?
What makes it 16 black Meccas?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I'm sure there's more
black meccas than 16, okay, but
I wanted to pick the primaryones from out of the regions in
which we're in.
And I'm sure you'll notice, ifyou look at the regions that
we're in, when you look at thepopulation of black people in
America, or foundational blackAmericans, it's usually coastal
cities, you see right.
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Americans, it's usually coastalcities, you see right, it's
like.
You know Georgia, alabama,miami, down in that region, the
five black belt states andwhatnot usually coastal cities.
You know, east Coast, the South, the coast of the South, the
West Coast, and then, of course,the Midwest.
You know, and those are thefour regions and there's four
black Meccas within these.
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Now, when I say black Meccas,I'm not saying every, all black
people live here, but what I'msaying is these are places in
which we put commerce, culture,family you know what I mean and
invested a lot of energy intomaking these places pop to where
not only we could eat off of itbut other people eat off it too
as well.
You know, yes, sir, I kind of,I kind of drew the idea.
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I want to make a visual versionwhen I came up with this.
You know, I want to give likean idealistic version of a
modern day.
And then the Green Book.
You know, updated Green Book.
I was trying to update that andkind of walk people through
this.
This is how you know sayingthis.
You know, once upon a time,this is where we were, but we're
still here.
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But we need to develop theseplaces and gain back control of
these places, because I wouldn'tsay we've had all the control,
but we were the engine of mostof these cities.
You know, yeah, and still are.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Right.
So let's start with the EastCoast.
New York, New Jersey, that'snumber one.
Two is Philadelphia.
You forgot Connecticut okay.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Well, we got a which.
Where would you say so?
Connecticut is pretty muchphiladelphia, though, right I
really told you.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
You know what I?
I can't even answer thatquestion because I don't.
I never really thought about it, but all I know is uh, okay,
new york and connecticut,they're right there yeah, indeed
, and the connecticut is reallya like a connector.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Uh, if you look on
the map that connects the East
Coast to the Midwest, yeah.
You know.
So there's like certainconnector cities too that
connect the regions Because,like I said, there's four
regions.
You know, you're talking aboutthe East Coast and we're talking
about New York.
New Jersey, that's one Mecca.
Philadelphia, iac, connecticut,too, the DMV, that's one Mecca,
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philadelphia, I had Connecticuttoo, the DMV, that's three.
And then the North Carolina.
You know, and these are, likeyou know, the places where I
mean, when you go there, firstof all, you're going to see a
lot of black landmarks, whetherthey be high schools, museums,
people's houses, businesses.
You know you're going to hearabout a lot of historical Black
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stuff.
Whether you want to run into itor not, is part of the design
of the city, of the makeup ofthe cities.
There was stuff.
When I came to New York I mean,it was just like I'd been to
New York a few times, butsometimes I would go on a
specific tour where I'm justlooking at restaurants and
places I saw so much stuff.
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I was standing next to the whatwas it?
The Harriet Tubman statue,there's like real close to the
Apollo and stuff, and me and myfamily was standing right there
and it was, you know, it feltreally good to see that type of
stuff, these type of icons.
They represent us in ourstruggle.
You know, icons that representus in our struggle, you know,
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and I feel like at some point weneed we should do a tour of
these cities where you know,instead of going to paris and
rome, etc.
No, I go to the 16 black meccasand go on a tour of your, the
history of your people got you.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Yes, sir, I like that
.
Yeah, paris and all thoseplaces are more commercialized,
just like European designerbrands and designer brands and
what else?
Foreign cars.
Look at that, check this out,check this out.
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We like to design a Europeanbrand.
Right, we like to go to.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Paris, the German
cars.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Right, we like to go
to Paris.
Yo, what's going on we?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
don't want to go and
look at our meccas that we built
out of blood, sweat and tears,man, we was French, out of
slavery and we built a lot ofthese towns, you know.
So it's like, well, how didthey do that?
No matter what nobody want tosay, and even if somebody don't
believe it, black people have avery special I'm talking about
foundational Black Americansspecifically have a very special
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magic about them where we cando things that look impossible
but make them look easy.
You see, yeah, and that's whyso many people hate us.
Because you look at what MichaelJordan does, how he does walks
on air and turns around and doesa 360, does his taxes, calls
his wife, you know, sends ashout out to his homie in the
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bleachers and then dunks it.
You know, just like it'snothing.
They have stories of JackJohnson when he'd be fighting,
he'd be with his white womanthat's in the crowd.
He'd be like, hey, baby, whatround?
You want me to knock this guyout in?
Knock him out in the third.
He'd come to the third.
Blah, blah, blah.
Okay, let's go.
So you know, that's a part ofour get down man, making the
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impossible look easy.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Right, we got Boom
Seven Mile.
I guess that would be Detroit.
I don't know if that's Detroit.
If that's Detroit, say what'sup Detroit, peace to Detroit.
If that's Seven Mile, I'mthinking that's Detroit.
What do we have on high fashion?
And besides Off-White,off-white, I think what do we
have on high fashion besidesOff-White, off-white?
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I think Off-White is the onlything we have.
Right, what's up D-Mecca in thebuilding Detroit D-Mecca?
We got Asbury Park, allah'sParadise.
I Divine Clark, peace to theGod Park, allah's Paradise.
Our Divine Clark, peace to theGod Allah's.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
Paradise.
Allah's seen and heardeverywhere.
Indeed.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
So to take it back to
New York, new Jersey art
inspired fashion.
Piece of art inspired fashion.
We're going to.
We take it to East Coast, newYork, new Jersey.
You forgot the Connecticut.
We got to throw Connecticut inthere okay.
Connecticut.
I'm writing it down come on.
Connecticut, philadelphia andNorth Carolina.
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What?
Okay, we already know New York.
As far as you know, blackhistory is so, so deep man.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
When you go to the.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Harlem Renaissance.
You can go to Schaumburg Center.
You can go to Central Park LawSchool in Mecca.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Law School in.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Mecca.
There's so much history in newyork like a lot of people don't
know even about westchestercounty and its roots with
harriet tubman, and likewestchester county has so much
black history is.
I'm just discovering this, youknow I'm saying in fact this is,
in fact, this is one of the uhum inspirations to do this
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podcast is to show people howmuch black history New York
actually has, aside from justthe five boroughs.
People just focus on the fiveboroughs.
There's so much more going onbesides the five boroughs, but
so I mean we could go on and onabout New York, new Jersey, as
far as black history.
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I'm sure it's steep.
I don't know a whole lot.
I do know this, though I knowthe new Black Panthers are out
there.
I know a large 5% are out there, and I know for a fact Nobu
Juali, newark, new Jersey.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Oh okay, I didn't
know that.
I mean you know New Jersey.
Oh okay, I didn't know that.
Yeah.
I mean, you know, new Jersey islike a lot of the stuff that
got squeezed out of New Yorkended up there.
You know, I know there's a verystrong black Muslim population
there.
You know, from the nation, likeyou say, there's plenty of gods
up in that piece and just Islam, muslims as well.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
There's a lot of just
oh my God For.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
God's sake.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Yeah, it's ridiculous
.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
Oh, my God.
I mean, I've never seen so manyMuslim restaurants or
restaurants that cater to Muslimpeople, except for when I went
there.
You know, Even the Philly Steakand Cheese Joint with the
foot-long sandwich that's aslong as your arm, you know they
sandwich that's as long as yourarm.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I didn't see no hog
up in there.
We're talking about Phillyright now.
Philly, as far as black culture, is just off the chain.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
That's where I went,
that's where I was staying.
Man, I loved it.
I wanted to move to Philly.
Me and my family was walkingthrough Philly at night through
the park, man, no problem,Nobody bothering us.
You know it was lovely man, itwas beautiful.
Yeah, I said, man I like this.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Philly gets a lot of
bad press.
Philly gets a lot of bad press,but Philly does have beautiful
parts and a deep, deep cultureand going back, it has a deep
Moorish culture as well.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
Yes, sir, I felt it
when I was there.
I felt it by the way, and then,okay, now this is something
that was being discussed to me.
Okay, If you look at theAndinka symbols, okay, go
through Philly and look at theblack iron rod man on the
different houses.
I feel like the slaves wereleaving us little messages and
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innuendos that they were here.
Through that, if you look, it'sthe most beautiful.
I like architectural art,family.
I really like architecture whenit's done well.
But you can see our peoples howthey wrote their name into the
architecture of Philly.
Just looking at the iron rodbro, and just the cities and the
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way the doors are shaped.
Seattle don't got that, becauseSeattle was built way later.
You know what I mean in the 18s.
You know what I mean late 1800s.
Philly is beautiful man, it's abeautiful city and I can see
our people's handwriting andfingerprint on the design of
Philly.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
Yeah, Black on black.
What's up?
Black on black Islam, black onblack Peace, god Islam, shalom,
hotel, peace.
So now Philadelphia.
I could go on and on about all.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Yeah, we got to talk
about move, we got to remember,
we got to give them a shout outoh man, move.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Yeah, wow, you took
it back.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
You took it back, I
know you was a shorty God, but I
know you remember that.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I was a kid but I
learned about honestly.
I learned about move throughthe new Black Panther Party.
I learned about that throughthe new Black Panther Party.
I don't know if Shaka Shakur orDivine Allah either showed me
the movie or told me to watch it.
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I forgot one or the other.
But I learned about the movethrough those brothers and that
group was basically killed offpretty much right.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
They were killed off.
A bomb was dropped upon thembecause they just wanted to live
separately and naturally andthey didn't want to send their
kids to schools and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
And.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Wilson Good, they say
.
I think he was the governor,mayor or governor, something
like that.
Some type of Negro politiciandropped the bomb on them and you
know, the slogan that we heardwas that Wilson good is no good.
And there was marching throughthe streets saying that
Paramafrica.
She came here, she talked toone of the colleges I went to
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and, man, it was just a heavystory, man, the whole way it
happened, man, when they went tocourt and everything, man, the
whole way it happened, man, whenthey went to court and
everything.
Very powerful story, but verycompelling because it shows you
the uh, just the strength, man,and the resilience of our people
when they really want to dosomething and demonstrate and
make a point.
You know, that really stayed inmy heart.
You know a whole lot.
You know the brother, johnafrica, the sister, pam africa,
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and one thing that people don'tknow, philly, another part of
Philly, is a brother named MumiaAbu-Jamal.
Right, he was there.
He was a kid at the time whenthe move stuff was going on, but
he became a journalist.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
Pardon me, Paul, I
got to say peace to the people.
Peace Amber Hill L Islam.
Islam Amber Hill L.
Okay, I'm loving the topic.
The culture has to know thistype of information is vital,
Indeed.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Peace Now.
Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
You know.
So, philly, nevertheless, man,when I went there, I was just, I
was really touched.
I could feel the energy of move.
I could feel the energy of thetouched.
I could feel the energy of MOVE.
I could feel the energy of theMuslims.
I could feel the energy of thenation.
I could feel the energy of someof the Black founders who ran
from slavery and came there.
You know, I could feel theenergy of the Black soldiers who
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fought to unify the keep theunion together, you know, and
they fought to bring our peopleoff of plantations.
I felt it all there, man, itwas, it was powerful and it was
me and my family walking throughthere.
You know, we was there for mygodfather's.
He got his PhD, so we was therefor you know.
For that I went to a blackMasonic temple.
That was actually in Jersey,you know.
(30:12):
But out here is real Mason-y.
Okay, they go all the way intoit, but out there, the Masonic
Temple is just like a buildingthat black people be chilling at
.
You know, I'm just saying.
You know what I mean.
It's a part of the community.
People don't be tripping ornothing.
They're like oh yeah, we're atthe Masonic Temple.
Yeah, yeah, you know my uncleis such and such.
Oh yeah, my great so on theEast Coast I noticed there's a
(30:37):
strong Masonic, black Masoniccontingent.
It's different from the whiteMasonic contingent so I don't
ever leave that out.
I don't take that for granted,because a lot of Masons helped
to get our people that were inthe Underground Railroad and
helped to get a lot of ourpeople out of slavery.
If you don't know that, gostudy that history y'all Very
important history.
You know White Masons too, helltoo, not just Black Masons,
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white Masons too.
You know, right, right.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Now, if we go to DMV,
we're talking about DC,
maryland, virginia right, so DC.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
When I think about
stuff, we could talk about
Benjamin Banneker.
We could talk about the slavesthat built the white house, I
mean dc chocolate city.
We could talk about howardhoward right.
Oh, it's so cold when I went.
You ever been to dc?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I used to go out
there.
I used to be there every summer.
Okay, okay, so use this in thehouse music.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yo, when I went to dc
god back back in the day, I was
out there with my godbrother.
We was out there with KwameTure at the all-African
anti-Zionist front.
Okay, I go to the KFC.
I mean, I'm from Seattle, bro.
You get regular KFC corn on thecob, some gravy, et cetera.
They had greens at the KFC.
(31:58):
They had candy yams at the KFC.
All the fixings and the mixings, the good potato salad, that
don't taste funny.
It was so, man, I was, I was, Iwas loving it.
Man, I wanted to.
Man, I'd never seen nothinglike that at KFC, bro.
That blew my head off and Iknew I was in a chocolate city,
(32:19):
you know, yeah.
And then the sister who wasserving me the food had a gold
tooth in the front of her mouth.
I was like, man, I could getsome sweet corn on the cob.
She was like, yeah, sugar, Icould get some sweet potato pie.
She was like, yeah, honey.
I said, man, this is flat.
She was like, mm-hmm, DC, youknow.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I said man, this is
flat.
She was like mm-hmm, yeah, dc,you know DC.
I used to go there every summer.
Well, my grandmother and mygrandfather they lived in.
They're from New York but theymoved in their later years to
Capitol Heights in Maryland,which is not too far from DC.
(33:00):
My aunt, catherine Brown, shewas like a big pastor out there
in DC, so we were always goingMaryland DC, maryland DC.
My cousins living in DC.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Oh, you got a kinfolk
today, bro.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, you can pull up any day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, you can pull up any day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, damn, that'swhat's up and that's what I
noticed family, not to cut yourwisdom, but I noticed that, if
you start really looking, mostof us have kinfolks in all of
these 16 cities.
That's why I picked thesecities.
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Most of us have folks.
You got to look and you got todig on both sides of your family
, but you'll see that you gotsome family in most of these
cities, even if you don't knowwho they are and they don't know
you.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
You know, yeah,
indeed, dc reminds me of Philly.
Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, me too.
Me too, Because it's flat.
Only problem with being in theDMV is mainly black.
It is, ooh, all you see isblack face on both sides.
Only only only thing thatbugged me out I couldn't tell
when I was in DC, maryland orVirginia.
They're like, oh, we don't.
We're in Maryland now.
Oh, we have Virginia.
(34:13):
Oh no, we back in DC Cause we,we drive, and I'm like man Okay,
all right.
Oh no, we're back in DC becausewe drive, and I'm like man,
okay, alright, man, it's justall one city, basically, you
know what I'm saying.
Cross the street.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
To me, dc and
Maryland look like completely
different to me.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
I feel like y'all
must know your way around.
You know what I think becauseI've been going out there every
summer since I was a kid.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
I kind of know how it
goes or whatever, but Virginia,
I'm not going to lie.
I'm not going to lie right here.
Honestly, what I know about DC,Maryland and Virginia are not
too many.
It's a lot of black history.
There's some other stuff too.
It's a lot of black history.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
It's a lot of black
history.
There's some other stuff too.
Let's keep it above Other stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:03):
Yeah, Virginia was
the spot to go to at a certain
point in the 90s.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, so that's not.
You know it's not for the show,but you know what I'm saying.
I mean, if you want to be realabout it, those are the hot
spots for you know.
Yeah, exactly, I can see that.
(35:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
I can see that you
know what.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Matter of fact DMV in
North Carolina Right.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Yeah, that's another
aspect of it.
That's kind of how most of usgot to know these cities,
because we was going city tocity dropping off packages,
picking up packages.
But now that we're older we seethere was something else that
the universe wanted us to seeFor sure.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
For sure.
Now, what do you know aboutNorth Carolina as far as black
history is concerned?
Speaker 2 (36:02):
Let me see.
Well, since I'm not from thatpart of the world, you know, I
just there's certain things thatI study that I will find, but
what I found found about NorthCarolina.
But this is where a lot of theunion battles were fought.
Union versus the Confederatebattles were fought to draw the
lines.
The Union wanted it, theConfederates wanted it, and it
(36:23):
was a very important place thatthey fought over and the people
who saved the day.
If you look into it, I'm, youknow, doing a little bit more
research, but the research Ifound was saying that the black
soldiers held the line there anda lot of the other soldiers had
ran away because they couldn't.
You know, let's keep it abovethe confederates was whooping
the unions but, bruh, they wastearing them out the frame.
(36:45):
They was tearing them out theframe and until, uh, abraham
lincoln brought us into the war,they was losing the war and but
one of the main pivotal battlesthat they say happened was in
north carolina and it was mostlyblack soldiers, you know, they
held the line and this is whereit kind of carved into people's
head oh, these guys are serious,these ain't just some slaves
(37:05):
with guns, you know.
But yeah, and that wassomething I studied at the
University of Washington in anold, dusty book.
You know what I mean.
Um, other than that, northCarolina, I don't.
I can't really say.
I know there's a strong blackcommunity out there and they say
there's a lot of blackbusinesses out there that work
with each other and you know, doyou know exchange, but other
(37:29):
than that, I don't really know awhole lot about it.
I know there's a lot ofbasketball players from there,
right From North Carolina State.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
mean a couple rappers and things
like that.
But you know I don't want tooffend nobody from North
Carolina because I'm pretty surethey wouldn't know the black
history out there.
You know what I'm saying.
Yeah, yeah, what name of battle?
What name of the battle?
They're asking about the battlethat.
(37:57):
What is the name of the battleI asking?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
about the battle.
That, what is the name of thebattle?
I, I am sorry y'all, um, Igotta go.
You know, look at my notes andwhatnot, but they, this is
something that stuck out in myhead.
You know what I mean because mysister lives in north carolina
right now.
You know I'm a during blackwall street, wilmington as well.
Okay, there we go.
Thank you, sister Amber.
Yes, durham, nc.
Black Wall Street, wilmington.
(38:20):
I mean, once we start talkingabout these places and the
people who are from there kindof plug in, they can really give
us a deeper history, becauseI'm not from there.
So I don't want to try to tellthe story, act like I know.
You know what I mean.
I've been through there.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
I never really
stopped and whatnot, but I
definitely felt a strong blackpresence there and hella, black
people didn't ask me to come andmove there, man, I'd be like no
, you know you know if, if I hadto move anywhere, it would have
to be uh, uh, I'm going to sayif it was on the East coast, if
(38:58):
it was on the East coast, if itwas on the East Coast, it's
going to have to be.
If I had to move on the EastCoast, which I wouldn't want to
stay on the East Coast.
I love East Coast though.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
Born and raised.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
East Coastian, if you
want to call it that, but New
Jersey.
I would have to go there,depending on where in
Philadelphia, dc I love DC Forsure.
Maryland for sure, virginia forsure, that whole line.
(39:30):
I rock with the whole linebecause the thing about the DMV
in North Carolina it has thatthere's a lot of land, a lot of
land.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
And the restaurants,
man, the food out there most of
it is ooh, staggler man, I meanBlack Power Salute word.
I ain't going to lie, eastCoast had me eating good man.
Everywhere I went I was eatinggood yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Now let's go to the
South Tulsa, oklahoma, texas.
You have Detroit, michiganthere on the south.
Speaker 2 (40:04):
Oh, my bad, that
should be in the Midwest yeah,
yeah, it's.
Oklahoma, actually Texas, newOrleans and Mississippi and
Georgia and Alabama.
Those are the four.
So Texas, oklahoma.
Speaker 1 (40:17):
Oklahoma, Mississippi
and Alabama.
Speaker 2 (40:22):
New Orleans and
Mississippi and Georgia and
Alabama.
Yeah, some people might knowthis, some people might not, but
most of that stuff was actuallyall Georgia at one point, but
they divided it up if I have, Iwant to move down south.
Speaker 1 (40:38):
if I have to, if,
like I would, I want to move
down south, like like,eventually, like I want to, you
know, kind of like I want to goback and forth down south in New
York, down south in New York.
You know that's my, that's myplan later on.
But what do you know about?
About these states though?
Black history states.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Though black history,
um, the specific black history
man, um, I think, uh, neworleans, I know, was founded by
a brother I don't necessarilyknow his name, I ain't gonna lie
to you uh.
But georgia, um, let's see,when I was doing doing a
knowledge to georgia, and it wasin 1526 when he came there, you
know, and people don't reallyknow a lot about the Georgians
(41:29):
man, particularly the Cherokeeand the Blackfoot, who really
founded and grounded that man.
They don't really talk a lotabout that.
They talk about the railroad,you know.
You know how Georgia was thehead of the South, the king of
the South, and whatnot, but theydon't talk about the railroad.
You know how Georgia was thehead of the South, the king of
the South, and whatnot, but theydon't talk about people like
Lucas Vasquez de Allens of 1526.
My family is actually fromGeorgia, my mother's side.
(41:54):
Atlanta, georgia, you know.
So that city is so rich withhis.
I mean, you just drive throughthere.
Just the whole city is a blackmonument to historical.
You know, atlanta is so blackthat it kind of meshes out
whatever is white that's aroundIn Atlanta.
(42:29):
That's the black mecca of the,I would say, of the South.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
The sister, amber
Hill, said Durham is and that's
North Carolina is almost 40%back.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
Wow, and a lot of
those people that I noticed that
some of them used to be in DCmoved to New York, some from New
York moved back.
To excuse me, nc, you know whatI said.
Yeah, people, you find a lot ofpeople in New York that's from
there, or a lot of people thatleft New York and went back to
(43:04):
North Carolina, you know.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
So yeah, yeah, that's
what I know about that as well.
Like it's same thing withAtlanta, a lot of people from
New York are going to.
Atlanta.
Yes, sir, you know.
Speaker 2 (43:17):
I looked at my watch
when I was in Atlanta.
It was on East coast time, soyeah.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
Exactly, exactly.
So now let's talk about Texas.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
What about Texas?
They say Texas might bereaching close to New York,
getting close to New York andhas almost the most.
I think, if not, as there nowit's real close, but it has
probably the most black people.
You know, one of the biggestblack cities in the United
States, man, you know, and a lotof people have moved from Los
Angeles to Texas.
(43:50):
A lot of people have moved.
Black cowboys were notnecessarily settled there, but a
lot of them moved there, youknow, because texas was like the
new west.
The old west was georgia, butthe new west became, as they
(44:11):
expanded, became texas.
So a lot of the people theybrought there was like the, you
know, the black cowboys andwhatnot, because people don't
really explain this to us.
Well, ok, when you said in thistime period about, you know,
after slavery and whatnot, whitepeople were not the settlers
because people were mad at whitepeople for coming and
(44:31):
colonizing a lot of the Indianand black areas.
So people were trying to keepthem out.
Plus, they weren't good farmers, ok, they weren't good cattle
herders, except, I'm not tryingto diss white folks, but I'm
just keeping it a book.
That's why Europe wasn't thatsuccessful when they had to come
here.
So people weren't lookingforward to that.
A lot of Indians were pushingthem out.
(44:54):
The only people who could comein and settle these places was
Blacks.
Because we spoke the nativelanguage, we spoke, you know,
english.
We spoke our own language andpeople don't and texas is a
really good example of this thata lot of the texas what do they
call them?
Rangers I'm not gonna tell youthis they was black.
They was black, bro, becauseonly black people could really
(45:16):
go to and fro and through thenative, you know territories and
through the black territories,white folks, a white man came up
.
He might have got his headblown up.
That's just how that went.
Now it's not all of Texas, butthis is just a lot of the South,
and in certain parts of Texasyou know that were developed by
these black pioneers who went inthere I don't exactly remember
(45:40):
where.
Uh, what's the brother's name?
Uh, best, bass reeves, but I'mpretty sure he was down in that
area, man, if not living thereas a, a marshal, going in,
capturing people and bringingthem to justice.
And, um, a lot of them werewhite supremacists who were just
(46:00):
rogue, who thought, justbecause they were white, that
they could do whatever they wantto.
But you know, when I think ofTexas, I think of these black
rangers and I think of peoplelike Bas Reeves man and the work
that they did.
I think also people like what dothey call it?
The lady who delivered the mail?
What was the sister's name?
(46:22):
Stage coach Mary.
So prior to you know now, itwas a sister named stage coach
Mary used to deliver the mail.
Now she's.
She's delivering the mailthrough, you know, redneck,
tobacco chewing, crackerjackplaces, you know.
So it wasn't an easy job likeit is now.
It ain't an easy job now, butit definitely wasn't an easy job
like it is now.
It ain't an easy job now, butit definitely wasn't an easy job
(46:42):
back there, but she always gotpeople their mail and she became
a standard for postal delivery.
You know, coming from out ofthe South and in rough areas,
you know.
So that's what I think of whenI think of Texas, and I also
think of people like what is?
What is the brother's name?
What is his name?
Deadwood, dick, deadwood DickY'all look him up, man.
(47:06):
He was a very, very well-known,one of the first people to
really ride, jump on a steer andwrestle it to the ground, and
he kind of made his way out ofslavery.
Doing that, all those rodeotricks that we see, a lot of
those came from Deadwood Dick.
Yeah, a lot of those came fromDeadwood Dick.
Yeah, a lot of those came from.
I mean, I think his real namewas Nat Love, though, but he had
(47:27):
a book about him calledDeadwood Dick, in which they say
you know, a lot of the storiescame from him.
So yeah.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Got you, okay, okay.
So now we're talking aboutTexas.
Do you have South carolina inthere, um?
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I put south carolina
with north carolina, but I put
north carolina, you know, but Iput, I kind of coupled those two
together.
Um, south carolina, oh we, wetook the gullagichi, gullagichi
man.
There you go, exactly that'sexactly where I was going, and
there's so much culture andthere's so much music,
(48:06):
particularly that move fromSouth Carolina to New York, you
know what I mean.
I think the father was fromSouth Carolina, right?
I'm not sure?
Yeah, that's what they said,him and Bumpy Johnson was from
there.
And then they made their way upto new york.
Um, when I went through there,hey, it was some real I wanted
(48:27):
to stay longer because therestaurants was really good, but
, um, you know, it looked like,I don't, you know, it looked
like a black town that was oncethriving but they pulled all the
tax money out of it, father.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
You said the father,
like the father.
I thought you.
I thought you was talking aboutsomebody else.
No, the father.
Yeah, yeah, I think it's no.
No, no, no, no, no.
The father's from DanvilleVirginia.
Oh, danville, virginia, Okay,okay, pardon me, pardon me, yeah
(48:57):
, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Okay, I guess it was
Buffy Johnson.
You know, I guess it was BuffyJohnson.
And you know, from myunderstanding, I guess that's a
place where a lot of the slavescame from, you know, were
brought to, first brought to,and then they dispersed them out
from there.
So you know, it has a lot ofthat early um colonial history
(49:21):
and whatnot.
You know, I can't really nameany landmarks like that because
I didn't really stay there.
But you know, we know that isone of our black meccas.
If you go through there, blackpeople will treat you good and
you'll feel at home right, right.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
Yeah, we forgot to
talk about that.
The father's from virginiadanville come on, come on.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
I don't know how we
forgot that.
Yeah, for real man.
Speaker 1 (49:44):
My bad, it's so good.
Now we're going into.
What do we have?
I love this topic, man.
What do we have?
Speaker 2 (49:54):
Rich man, let's jump
to Midwest, you're making me see
right now.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
We need a tour, we
need a tour like you said.
Like you said, peace, god ofLaw, divine God of Law, we need
a tour man.
We don't have no tours.
Speaker 2 (50:14):
That's exactly a tour
that takes you through all the
landmark places and houses andschools and streets in these
different cities.
Right, I'm one of those people.
I'm going to do it myself.
I would always go to all thelandmark stuff when I went to
these places and it's justastounding, man, if you really
really start peeling back thelayers and you start places,
you'll just roll by and you'llthink that's just a random place
(50:35):
.
Nah, man, that was the oldmosque, n-o-i mosque.
That was the old mosque.
You know, I must.
That was the old bppheadquarters right there.
Oh, that was where the uni heyused to meet.
You know, we got to talk aboutthings like this.
You know what I mean.
These are important things.
This is what make these the 16black meccas and make us locked
into this land.
(50:56):
You know right yes, sir, indeed.
Speaker 1 (51:00):
So now, uh, we're
talking about.
Do you know anything about theGullah?
First of all, my grandfather,his bloodline.
They come from South Carolina,the Gullah Geechee Peace to my
family, peace to my family.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Peace to the Gullah
Geechee yep.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yep, now when it
comes to do you know anything
else about South Carolina?
Speaker 2 (51:25):
No family.
I just know it's a reallyexcellent food there.
Um, like I said, a lot of theslaves you know came in through
there and were dispersed toother places.
One of the first places whereyou know some of us came to uh,
like you said, gulagichi.
Other than that, you know, andI, bumpy Johnson, and a lot of
New York people come from SouthCarolina.
Yeah, got you.
Speaker 1 (51:49):
We have a few minutes
I want to talk about.
Did you speak on New Orleansalready?
Let's see New Orleans, becauseNew Orleans has a Huge Well,
let's see New Orleans BecauseNew Orleans has a huge.
Speaker 2 (52:04):
Well, let's, ok,
let's, let's expand a little bit
with, say, louisiana.
I know that what you will callit, h Rapp Brown was from there.
H Rapp Brown is from there.
Brother Troy of the nation wasfrom there.
They busted into his mosque andyou know, you know how they go
in Louisiana was whooping onpeople unannounced, and this
(52:25):
brother was whooping on,whooping on, did not stop
fighting until the end.
Then they brought him to courtand the brother was loud, he was
just bold and black, the boldblack God.
He stood up and a lot of peopledon't know about these strong,
resilient black people who someof them might call themselves
red bones, some of them mightcall themselves creole.
(52:45):
They're still black people to me.
You know, um, I ain't gonnaeven talk about this.
What they call the frenchquarters no, no, no, we ain't
talking about that.
That's the white people part.
They say you know of it, but,uh, you know the black part.
Um, let me see what is.
What is?
What is that that?
I know there's like a littleblack haven down there you know
what I mean where everybody goeswhen you come to new orleans
(53:08):
and you get them po boys, thered light district is there.
Um, you can smoke what you wantto smoke about the louisiana
purchase right, which was causedby the ha Haitians whooping on
France, and then it forcedFrance to sell all of that to
America.
You know.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, right.
So what else?
What else, huey P.
Speaker 2 (53:32):
Newton is from
Louisiana.
Huh, you say who I said Huey PNewton is from.
Speaker 1 (53:39):
Louisiana.
Huey P Newton is from Louisiana.
Huey P Newton is from Louisiana.
I did not know that.
Yeah, his father was a preacher.
Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah, I mean, look at
him, he looked like a.
You know, he looked like a redbone type.
Yeah, but we forget about, weforgot about the voodoo, the
hoodoo, the hoodoo out there.
Yeah, that's, that's.
You know, that's all really,but it's really expressed and
highlighted down there, right,and that's a very like I said,
(54:04):
it's a part of our people'smagic.
We run from it, we shun it, butwe got to embrace our magic,
for sure, For sure.
Speaker 1 (54:11):
What else?
What other Oklahoma man and youknow what Oklahoma?
Speaker 2 (54:21):
That's black Wall
Street.
Yeah, that's where the Gap Bandis from and this was one of the
hubs of commerce.
When we talk about a blackmecca, where there was multiple
businesses and there wasindependent and could do his own
thing, that was Oklahoma.
That was Oklahoma, you know.
They came in like Philly, justlike they did move, they dropped
(54:45):
a bomb on you know, black WallStreet.
You know, because a lot of theblack soldiers that came back
from World War One, they waspoking their chest out.
It's like hey man we want to betreated just like everybody else
.
We want to put our lives on theline, you know, and people
didn't like that.
We went and put our lives onthe line, you know, and people
didn't like that, and you know.
You know the rest.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
You know the rest,
right, but regardless, black
people are still there, stilldoing their thing Still.
Speaker 2 (55:17):
So now we finish up
with the South.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we got thatwe got the South.
Speaker 1 (55:22):
So what I want to do
now is pause that and then the
next time we come on, we speakon the Midwest West Coast and
finish off with that.
Okay.
Speaker 2 (55:36):
Let's do that Might
have to take a little pause,
family, because I got a realnice special surprise for the
next show.
Man, where it's my brother,who's from Ghana, ok, who built
a school in Ghana and was one ofthe folks who introduced me to
Kwame Ture, to Willie MucasaRicks, very powerful brother man
(55:56):
, and his school is doing verywell.
He's turned out a lot of ofdoctors, lawyers, upstanding
people, man, you know.
So I want to bring him on andintroduce y'all to him in the
next one, you know, and thenwe'll, then we'll come back and
then, you know, revisit themeccas, the one after that.
But this is going to be a realspecial one.
He's writing a book too, youknow, and very powerful book,
(56:18):
very important book.
But his story in general is, tostart, the true story of a
Pan-Africanist who learned here.
God is, you know, he went toHoward, he was a student of
Kwame.
He's a student of Haley Jarema,the brother who wrote what's
that movie called Sankofa, okay,yeah.
And then he went back home toGhana, you know, got with the
(56:43):
accruements and whatnot andbuilt a really nice
Pan-Africanist school.
So you know, I wanted to bringhim on here and, you know, let
him talk to y'all and let y'allget to you know, meet this
brother, because you have peoplelike Umar who've been saying
they're going to build a schoolfor like 20 years, right, and I,
I haven't seen it.
I'm you out there, so maybe yousaw it, but this brother really
(57:04):
did it.
Okay.
I mean, it's like looking forjesus, like did you see him?
No, no.
So this brother really did itindeed, yeah, well on that.
Speaker 1 (57:14):
On that note, thank
you for coming out this evening
to talk about 16 black meccas.
We got through through the Eastcoast to South.
Now we've got to go Midwest andWest coast, but we're going to
take a pause.
We're going to take a pause andhe's going to introduce the
guard.
Magnetic is going to introducesomeone else to the PSO.
See y'all in the next one forthe BRT black round table, not
(57:36):
next week but the week after thefollowing week, that Wednesday
at 7.
Pm.
Thank you for coming out.
Thank you for supporting theplatform.
I really appreciate you, g.
I appreciate you as well, sir.
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Lovely topic, lovely
show, indeed Peace to the family
.