April 22, 2025 • 57 mins
Your eyes are deceiving you every day, and you don't even realize it. In this mind-expanding conversation with Dr. Paul Dyer, we uncover the hidden pathway between what you see and how you react—a neural superhighway that often bypasses your logical brain entirely.
At the center of this phenomenon is what Dr. Dyer calls the "amygdala loop"—a direct connection from your eyes to your brain's fear center that triggers emotional responses before your rational mind has a chance to weigh in. This visual processing system evolved for survival but now dominates our modern decision-making in ways most people never recognize. From the colors in fast food logos to the carefully crafted appearances of politicians, visual triggers manipulate our emotions and behaviors at a subconscious level.
Perhaps most revealing is Dr. Dyer's breakdown of how this visual pathway affects racial interactions, particularly with law enforcement. The same police request can trigger dramatically different responses based on visual cues and past experiences stored in the amygdala. This isn't just academic—it's a matter of life and death when visual processing escalates routine encounters.
The relationship between the amygdala and ego creates what Dr. Dyer describes as "besties" in your brain—a partnership that defends your self-image regardless of facts. This explains why criticism or perceived disrespect can short-circuit logical thinking completely. Most shocking? Dr. Dyer estimates that "95% of your life runs subconsciously" through these visual-triggered pathways rather than conscious thought.
Ready to reclaim control of your visual processing? Dr. Dyer offers practical exercises to interrupt the amygdala loop, including mindful observation practices that strengthen your ability to see what's actually there rather than what your subcons
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
you what's going on.
Everybody is ron brown, lmt,the people's fitness
professional.
We have dr paul dyer on on onthis.
Ooh, I don't know what happenedwith that.
(00:27):
He'll come back, anyway.
So tonight we're talking aboutvisual, we're talking about how
visual affects our decisions,and yeah, so hold on one second,
he is back.
Yeah, so hold on one second, heis back.
(00:50):
He is back.
Visual affects our decisions.
That's what we're building on,or talking about this evening,
and, um, let's, let's go for it,let's go for it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So so I, I got you know, we, we had known that we
were gonna to may want to dothis right, and I, because I am
not, I'm just not like regularfolk.
But when you take, and this gotme on the visual, and I saw
(01:25):
this commercial about a Charminthe Charmin bear, he came home,
he said something to his motherand his mother he has this
little book behind him and helooks like he's trying to hide
something.
He said so what's going on?
He's got glasses on and thebear is talking.
Right, and it's about Charmin.
But here's my thought on thevisual why bears would never
(01:51):
need glasses In its wholeexistence would never need
glasses.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
But now, that it's standing up learning algebra.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
All of a sudden it has these other deficiencies.
So I wondered why that is.
If you look over evolution oftime, for us to get more
streamlined into male that weknow now we might have had to
lose a lot of those naturalfactors through evolution of
(02:27):
time.
Obviously we didn't have to runso fast because we could build,
so that took the strength outof my legs.
You see what I mean.
We didn't have to wonder whereour food was growing from
because we were farming.
So that took all that thinkingout of it because we were
farming, so that took all thatthinking out of it.
(02:48):
But when it comes to visualstabilization, it has such a
strong effect on humans as weare now than most anything.
Think of how much we don't hearbecause someone says did you
hear that?
You go where you turn your headLike where are you talking
(03:10):
about?
So I can put a visual to itbefore I go back into.
I wonder if I hear what.
What did it sound like to you?
It sounded like this Thinkingthrough your hearing, I did hear
that.
But we don't do that.
We go, man, did you hear that?
And you're looking around likewhere Did something happen that
(03:30):
I missed before I tapped into myhearing.
We have been visualizing whatpeople have programmed for us to
visualize and how it needs toaffect our emotional being.
(03:54):
Ie, commercials, Whatever,poster notes, Poster notes,
whatever thing that's quick toyour visual.
Why has there been more womenin car ads?
Right, how does a woman make acar sell better when we know,
(04:26):
statistically, women are themost, they're the abundance.
Who buys big items, big ticketitems?
Very few men buy big ticketitems without their wife.
So why are there women in carads?
Because, visually, we want theman to earn and yearn for this
car and then somehow make reasonfor it, to talk it with our
(04:49):
wives.
But the visual is triggering allthis.
It's not logic, it's not this.
It's not that it's visual, it'sa very strong point because
they have what you call visualartists for all of our
politicians running for anoffice.
(05:10):
What do you look like and whatdoes your look say for you?
It's marketing.
They're not marketing yourhearing, your smell, your taste,
your touch.
They're marketing your visualexperiences wants pleasures.
(05:31):
That is what they want totrigger.
Almost like if you smellgrandma's cornbread, you're
going to start salivating.
They want you to salivatethrough the visual.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So let me share my camera, let me, can you share
the screen with me?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, upload it.
They're not going to add you.
Can you share the screen withme?
Upload it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Then I can add you.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Oh, it wants me to upload it.
Yeah, you got to share it first, then I'll welcome it in.
That was a dope thing you saidabout the whole car adds.
What they do to trigger sensorsin the brain and evoke a
certain emotion, emotions out ofyou, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So even down to the politicians, um, their presentation, their
(06:35):
parents, someone where a red tieto exert power, that's that's,
that's that represents power.
So the color of the timeshowing the nuclear family of a
president how he speaks, hisaccomplishments, because you
know, that's all down tomarketing, that's what marketing
is.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So let me.
We're getting here people forthe visual because I wanted to.
It's so psychological.
It's so much psychological.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Like the colors of McDonald's the red and yellow
Right or when you walk into asupermarket, the first thing you
do every human being does thisI'll bet you the first place you
walk is towards the right.
Am I right?
That's?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
where all the?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
produce are the sweets and everything is towards
the right.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, yep, it's to the right to share online video
files, live PDFs file from mycomputer and then from my
(07:59):
documents.
Man, if we had known.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Why are you searching for that?
Engage the listeners and theviewers.
Don't forget to comment, like,share, subscribe people and YP
Talk Show Super chats Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And how?
Because you know, and how.
Because you know they say menare visual, this, or people are.
What do you call this type oflearner?
They're mostly affected by thisyeah.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
auditorial learners, visual learners and those who
require hands-on yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You'll be amazed by what it has gotten you to do the
things they want you to do.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Mm-hmm the conditioning.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I think I'm trying to open this, but this file is oh
shoot.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Let me open this, but I can't.
This file is oh shoot, is it?
Do you have to file in large,maximizing your screen, or?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, my slide's coming up on this one.
So the reason I want to showyou this because I wanted to
take you through the process.
The first thing is it entersand the diagram I have on here
is okay, now I can presentbecause it's right here in the
(10:17):
studio.
There you go, okay.
So can you expand this a littlebit so people can see it, or is
it all just me?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Let me see, the only thing I can do is this.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yep, do that.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So as people can see, your eyes come in, so that
thymus, in the amygdala.
We have known that the amygdalais.
Now you can small it a littlebit.
Okay, you have known.
The amygdala has always beenpart of your fear system fight,
(10:58):
flight, things like that.
Right, it's the oldest part ofyour brain for survival.
That's all it knows.
It's really.
It doesn't learn more, itdoesn't know how to survive
better, whatever it can use tojust think about survival.
That's where that mygmia comesin, right Up here in the thymus,
(11:23):
as it goes back to the visualcortex, my next, the next slide
here.
That cortex now triggers thehippocampus pituitary and the
hypothalamus Right, which weknow just by up here it's the
(11:43):
stress.
So it starts shutting thingsdown.
The visual can shut emotionsdown that it does not register
something familiar with.
So it's looking for familiarity, it's not looking for logic.
(12:04):
And in that immediate visual,if something triggers a past
uncomfortableness, you startthis circle loop of panic.
Because circle loop of panic?
(12:28):
Because it goes down.
So it starts affecting yourimmune systems and below that we
can't see it anyway it startsaffecting your kidneys, your
liver, your heart.
The heart sends the mostmessages up into the brain.
(12:49):
So just from that visual.
If it doesn't recognizesomething familiar, it goes into
survival or something that'shappened in the past, it doesn't
know future.
Into survival or somethingthat's happened in the past.
It doesn't know future.
(13:09):
It has no future.
Your visual does not give youthe future.
The visual triggers everythingfrom the past and if that is
overwhelming, it stops a lot ofwhat you call the prefrontal
cortex from thinking critically.
Because now it's running thisloop.
(13:36):
I got my cortisol up there.
Going on, I am triggering mymotor skills Because in a fear
base we have to protectourselves in case something
harms us.
I got to figure out a way toget out of this.
That's what it's working on.
It's not working on logicalthinking.
If you're not a logicalthinking in the consciousness,
what I mean?
Think forward, don't bereminded of something, and
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that's how you apply your logic.
Something.
And that's how you apply yourlogic, because that's how they
get you to move and go incertain directions.
Because something you're usedto, something you're familiar
with, something you recognize, Ican move you that way.
The next thing as you go downhere, so it starts, it triggers
(14:27):
this parasympathetic nervoussystem.
Right, you see how it's hardfor you to maintain focus, it
starts to release sleep hormonesbecause it wants your mind to
go into habitual, so you don'tever have to worry about
(14:49):
thinking too hard.
So that's where it releases thesleep hormones, the serotonin
it wants to bring you down tolike it's okay, I'm going to
remember what I remember.
This is how I live my life.
It's going to be hard to changeand I'm okay with that.
That's what that hormone doesto you.
This is serotonin.
But in this effect it has aneffect If you don't know how to
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stop this circle from affectingit all the way down into your
body, right Liver, digestivemuscle, resting, heartbeat.
So if you're you know, starttriggering all those other
stress things we've alwaystalked about.
That's what visual.
(15:39):
That's what visual is.
That's what that's the scienceof visual.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay.
So let's say, if, uh, you knowI have um advertisement and you
know I want to put, I wantpeople to react to the
advertisement psychologically tomaybe go out there and buy some
something then they're going toput something out there that
(16:05):
triggers an emotional responsefor them to move, for people to
move.
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Entice them certain colors sounds symbols yeah, yeah
, wow, that's deep.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Now how would I recognize and believe me?
Trust me, this is not a jab.
95 percentile of the people are.
This is what this is, Unlessyou train yourself to think
(16:54):
about what you've seen or whatyou're looking at as a behavior
analysis.
When I look at people, I lookat for who they are In that
moment.
That gives me way moreinformation Than looking at a
past video.
(17:15):
I can look at a past video andcompare, but we humans A lot of
us look at something as moreexperience, our emotions, things
(17:36):
we're taught.
So we look at more of the pastfor reference than looking at
the information given to you atthe point.
And that's how you know you'rein a strong visual loop.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Okay.
So you basically say I can'thelp but to say, dr Dyer, when
you teach, it's like it's forall, but it's like this is
geared towards African-Americancommunity and blacks abroad,
because everything that you'resaying to me it ties back to
what people in this country haveendured and abroad and people
(18:17):
of color, basically.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I'll give you a perfect example.
There's something that I'vebeen trying to fight for this
type of education around thecountry and some people anyway.
When blacks get pulled over,people of dark skin get pulled
over, or in their front porch,on their lawn, walking down the
(18:43):
street, anything.
When a police officer says canI see some ID?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Pulled over.
Can I see your license?
Blacks know now you don't haveto give up your ID unless it has
something to do with you.
The police officer has to tellyou why they stopped you before
(19:15):
they ask for your license.
Right, you can be right andstill be dead being right.
Yeah because what it turns intoby police officers, white police
officer turns into I asked forit, you give it to me.
(19:37):
Now it jumps into resisting,resisting arrest Right, or
whatever they can make up atthat time.
Now you could be legally right.
You don't have to show themthat the passenger never has to
give an ID or their name.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
This is not their property.
But when you do that out in thestreet, what happens?
Because it's so visual ofnegative things we have in our
mind about the police, our tonecomes out differently, not
because I'm speaking my mind,but my tone is a lot more
(20:21):
threatening.
It's a lot more I'm going toboy, you have no idea.
If I get out of this car I'mgoing to whoop you or whatever,
right, because if a white persondoes it, both visuals are in
(20:43):
the same level playing field.
That's why a white person beingpulled over can I'm not doing
this.
Nope, get your supervisor, youain't going to do me.
The opposite color comes in.
They reach in your car, they'redragging you out of your car
and you're like what is going onand you're resisting arrest.
(21:04):
All this because we don't alignvisually, which triggers
certain kinds of historicalemotions gotcha that's how the
visual is such a hard player,even on our everyday lives.
(21:25):
It's what's depicted ontelevision.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
That's how the visual is such a hard player, even on
our everyday lives.
It's what's depicted ontelevision and, as you said, the
mental trauma, the scarring,you know you, basically you in
constant trepidation.
So that's why in ourcommunities mostly like people
with poor health, because theirmind is constantly going, they
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replay things from the past andwhat they've seen on television.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So how do you get out of this?
You can say let's go back tothe car.
Why'd you pull me over, sir?
I need to see a licensed driver.
It is my right to request you,tell me why you pulled me over.
He starts saying are you tryingto resist arrest?
(22:10):
That's when all that stops.
Here's my license, or I'm notgiving you anything and let's go
.
You know, detain me Right Downat the police station.
Let's go do that Because I'mnot speaking anymore.
If you haven't told me, they'lltell you to get out of the car,
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put your hands behind your backand you're going downtown.
It's a little bit annoying, butyou get to then tell your story
in a court Because they can'texplain by camera.
We're breaking out our camerasnow that I asked for something,
I requested it and all of asudden it turned into this.
(22:56):
But if I raise my voice, you'rewrong and it changes the
outcome, or it has a possibilityof changing the outcome of how
badly this reflects on theofficer.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Got you, got you, got you.
Now the visual loop.
If you could explain that onemore time, because as you
explained it, it went throughthe eyes, brain, and then it
went through the internal organs, there Right, and then it went
through the internal organsthere, right?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So, as you can see up on the picture there still,
that once it comes in it comesthrough that prefrontal cortex
but it has a straight B line tothe thymus and the amygdala,
right that circle to the visualcortex.
That's the loop.
The amygdala, the thymus, picksup the chemistry right.
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Once it starts to do, thevisual cortex says how am I
supposed to respond?
The amygdala sees like, oh, Ican grab this through
experiences, education or thingsin the past.
So now, after this littlediscussion, and if it's not a
(24:21):
thought process, because thiscan break as soon as it goes to
the thymus, it goes to thevisual cortex.
It doesn't have to go to theamygdala.
But when we are visuallystressed or something is
alarming to us, this is theroute.
After that, negatively, it goesthrough that cortex, right, it
(24:49):
hits.
Now it opens up some of theseother nervous systems and
adrenal systems and some othersystems in your body.
As you know, you have 12systems in your body, right?
So this is saying hownegatively affects, which
affects your heart, your liver,your kidneys, right?
(25:16):
All that's starting to beaffected by what you're
visualizing from the past.
This doesn't trigger thisnegative effect because you
can't have stress on somethingyou've never been before.
Because you can't have stresson something you've never been
(25:41):
before.
By definition, you cannot havestress on something you've never
did before.
The only way you create thestress is your mind tries for
you to associate differentthings that were scary to you,
that you afraid of, and put thatinto this category, and it's
going to give you that alarmlike, oh, I, I don't know if I
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could do that.
I, I have anxiety.
But you've never flown a plane,you've never been on a plane or
a train.
You know what I mean, but Ijust got this anxiety.
Well, that's your telling you.
You have the anxiety becauseyou've never been here before.
You know what I mean.
This is new.
So how can you have somethingof old in something of new?
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You can't.
So then, after it goes throughthat cycle, it starts affecting
how it comes down to the spinalcord.
I could have brought in thenerves that came off, that C8
there, the C5 there, that's thebreathing there.
(26:46):
I could have brought in morefiles.
It would just lose you into therabbit hole because there's
nerves and basically it says it.
That's why it says providesconstant muscle stimulation, the
nerves that runs and deliversthat information, has all these
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other friends and it's like, oh,I didn't know you were going
through this, so let me help youwith this.
So that's why you know why yourdigestive system could be off.
You can have diarrhea, you havea nervous stomach, you feel
like you want to throw up.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
High cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, so you have all these other informations being
passed over.
Passed around all because whatyou see, Right right, right
right.
Gotcha.
(27:43):
So when we talk aboutconsciousness and we have talked
about consciousness and thesubconscious, this is where the
subconscious immediately takesover is right in the amygdala.
Right, because, if I'm thinking, there is no need for the
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amygdala to even wake up.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Right, right.
So for what I know about theamygdala is that the amygdala is
like you know, it's like it'spretty much about fear.
It regulates, you know, um thatfear emotion right now, for
what I learned about it is thatit's not connected somewhere.
It's not really connected tothe brain.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I think something no, it's a little lube.
It's got a little bridge to gothrough, it's connected, but
it's not really connected to thebrain, I think.
No, it's a little loop, it'sgot a little bridge to go
through, it's connected, butit's not like the other big part
.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Right, right, right.
So now, how does that?
How does the amygdala beingthat it doesn't?
It's attached to the brain, butit's kind of not.
How does it affect the brain?
That's kind of not.
How is it?
How does it affect the brain?
That's what I'm trying tofigure out, like well, because
there's still.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
There's still a way to signal between the amygdala
and parts of the other bodyright, because it's still close
to down here into our brain stem.
So it it has to pass by.
But the amygdala has a lot ofinfluence because, basically,
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what it says I've done this.
I've been here before, this iswhat I was told, this is what I
remember, this is what I'm usedto.
A lot of this stuff is going toharm you.
Protect yourself, make sure youhave food, make sure you
Protect yourself, make sure youhave food, make sure you have
water, make sure you have safety.
If something directly affectsme this is why people don't
(29:41):
volunteer If it doesn't directlyaffect me, I'm going to shelter
my energy in Right, that's whatit is yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Now, how do you gain control over the amygdala?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
By thinking, by consciously thinking, of what
I'm like, the process.
I'm going to say this becauseyou have time in your brain.
I'm going to say this but whatis the outcome of how this
officer approached my car?
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Is it reasonable that I'll gothrough this two or three times
before I see the officer getagitated?
Do I want to make a statementhere?
Am I trying to just prove mypoint because I have you on
YouTube?
Am I thinking I'm going to geta lot of big payday out of this
(30:39):
if he really harms me or twistsmy shoulder?
The problem with those ideas isthat you didn't do the research
.
You heard about a couple of twoor three people 10, 100,
whatever that gotten some moneyout of the police and you're
going to use that as yourwelfare plan.
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Are you thinking this through?
Probably not, right.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
So basically you have to be your own prototype.
Probably not right?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
so basically you have to be your own prototype every
day, all the time got you thatmakes a lot of sense okay, now,
as far as the visual in thesubconscious mind, the amygdala,
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and so the visual consciousmind, the unconscious mind, the
unconscious mind or thesubconscious mind in the
amygdala, it pretty much allworks in unison, right, right,
(31:57):
it, it so it.
You recorded already some pasttrauma, yeah, and then, and then
you see something and that,whatever you see, that alert,
that alarms you, it, it bringsyou, it triggers like a past
experience and it triggers.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It triggers the same emotions you had at that
experience that you are equatingto at this time.
So it produces because maybeyou're older, you're a little
bit stronger, whatever your lifehas changed it produces more
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chemicals of a negative side, sothis doesn't get like, oh, I'm
getting this.
No, it produces more and itbuilds up in the body.
These type of chemicals don't?
They cause cellular damage.
So cells are being damagedbecause of this, of long periods
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, of all day, of this.
So even your good cells youknow it's like good cells
walking down a high schoolhallway full of hoot looms and
these good cells are just tryingto get to class and you got all
these other knuckleheadsbanging from wall to wall,
laughing.
And you got all these otherknuckleheads banging from wall
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to wall, laughing and giggling,all this other stuff, and came
to school to socialize but notto get the education.
That's why it's all about whathappened in the past, because
they don't need any newinformation or education.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Okay, makes sense.
That makes sense.
So, being that you know theamygdala and you know you have
to in the subconscious mind, youhave to, actually, you have to
be, you have to actively putwork in, so to speak.
Yeah, yeah and that's, andthere, it is.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I have to put the work in, so to speak yeah, yeah,
and that's and that's and thereand there it is.
I have to put the work in.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So do you think that you can put that work?
You could use visual topossibly fix whatever's going on
there.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Absolutely Visual.
You can do instead of lookingat something and never saying it
out loud about what you justlooked at and you think you're
just scanning the room, but thenclose your eyes and ask
yourself you scan the room, butwhat do you remember seeing?
(34:30):
Go into another room right, youknow what section you you
started from and stopped as younormally, turn your head right,
go to another room and askmyself what did I just see?
How many things you could writedown and be right or even be
close.
I'm telling you now.
(34:51):
I've done it to my students.
I've been doing it for a longtime.
It takes years to practice thattype of concentrated thinking
as I'm scanning the room.
Now we train these otherprofessionals to do this type of
(35:11):
stuff, like a good detectiveright Professionals to do this
type of stuff, like a gooddetective right or other people
who do investigation.
But for us we scan room and like, oh yeah, that looks the same.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, which is why they say in the situations.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
an alligator could walk by you and it wouldn't
trigger anything, so can you usecolors.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You know, like different colors, different
paintings, pictures to help youreset, if you will, for lack of
a better term.
No, because you're reallyworking on what you call
centering, focusing and, likeyou, only look at a particular
thing for a particular timeinstead of looking as you are
walking through your ownpersonal life.
As you are walking through yourown personal life, and when you
can, when you have time, youcan go to an office or a place
(36:19):
of work every day.
Do it in a locker room,whatever you can in your house,
in your kitchen, just lookaround and then get a piece of
paper and write down what yousaw You're going to start.
This is what I saw, but is itwhat you remember?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's going to give you.
Once you open your eye, be likeoh man that's not there anymore
.
She must have taken it down, orshe must have put it away, or
somebody must have moved it,because I was sure I remember
being there.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Basically, you're centering, your, centering your,
your attention, subconsciously,constantly and subconsciously,
basically Right.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You, you, you, you, you're learning to be aware of
what you are consciouslyactively doing what you are
consciously actively doing, andthat's how you sort of reset.
Right.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
That's how you reprogram.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, because you, you can.
You can say, you know, you canlook around and like, just like
you said, like I look at my deskand I'm sure, I'm sure this pen
is going to be there every time.
And then, but is it reallythere, right?
(37:46):
Right, because in your mind youthink it's there, but maybe
it's not.
Maybe my daughter moved it, orsomething like that.
And I'm like now I'm like okay,I got to kind of like rethink
this whole.
That's why.
Is that the reason why when,when things are missing, you're
so like disheveled?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Well, that is great, because when you're disheveled
all the way down to its core isthe unknown.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And we fear what we don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
We fear what we don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
We fear what we don't know.
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
That's a fact, it's a fact, that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
But we've said this before over time again Words
have meanings and frequenciesand vibrations and it has a way
to travel into your body bythose waves and frequencies,
because the words are the words.
You can surround it with otherobligatory words to hopefully
(39:09):
mean something in a sentence,but that's not the case.
Right Words, all words havetheir own significant vibrations
.
Like I know people use fire orsomething good.
Right, that's fire, it's fire,but the word is negative.
(39:39):
The last time fire was used asa positive is when they invented
it.
But fire means in thedictionary destruction.
It talks about heat and flameand oxygen and the flammables
(39:59):
and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
But it's negative, right, right, right.
To take it back to the visualand resetting your amygdala and
your response sensors or yourtrigger responses your trigger
responses your trigger responses.
(40:24):
What about the visual and your,your hearing sensories?
They work together.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
They can work together, but some have
alternate issues.
Some have more priority whatthey think it is.
This is why you can't trust awitness.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
You said that, dr Dyer, about the sensory and the
visual and the auditorial.
It's like walking down thestreet, for instance right
Subconsciously, you know all thesounds.
It's like before you sensedanger.
The sounds somehow always shift.
You can tell something's off.
When the sounds shift, themovement around you changes.
Isn't that part of that as well?
(41:17):
The amygdala it is.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
But here's the thing.
Let me explain to you this waytoo, because I think I
understand how Ron was asking.
Is that so?
I see something?
I have a fear response.
But as it goes through andpicks up in my hearing, my
(41:40):
hearing should be like why areyou afraid of that, right?
yeah so it doesn't.
It doesn't have a biggerdecision-making.
(42:00):
As the car gets filled up withall its other senses, visual
drives a lot.
It's always driving Right.
It's always driving Right,unless you're thinking.
Then the other five senses areriding in the back of the
minivan and what you callthere's another driver.
(42:25):
Because we can't drive andthink, the visual sees, it
recognizes, it knows where it'sgoing to go, how it's going to
travel.
Audio is questioning it.
But you're starting to make alot of sense.
With your experiences, youreducation, you're looping things
(42:49):
.
Now this goes back into why isit such a strong way of wanting
to loop?
It's because 95% of your lifeis ran subconsciously.
So the mind wants to puteverything into habitual, which
makes it easier to use lessprotein, less carbohydrates and
less energy.
And I'll say what I think isimportant to where the brain
(43:14):
really has to do the criticalthinking.
And if I can really move thatdown to let you think, eh, it's
not that big a deal.
You probably say, forget aboutit, right, and let the
subconscious do its thing.
Not many people think in a day.
That's what I'm trying to tellyou.
(43:34):
Not many people think in a day.
That's what I'm trying to tellyou.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Not many people think in a day.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
They don't.
Thinking takes work.
See if people thoughtthroughout the day they wouldn't
come back from work going.
Man, that was a hard dayBecause that's when they had to
think.
That lets you know what therest of your life is like.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Everything is just like programmed Nature, yep.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
A loop Got you.
When kids will come home fromkindergarten full day
kindergarten or first grade theycrash, they crash, they take a
nap, they're going to lay down,they're going to be.
I'm hungry.
I just want to chill in theirown little six-year-old way,
(44:38):
seven-year-old way.
I just want to chill.
They're not want to thinkbecause this whole direction be
quiet over here it's gettingthem to think.
Humans do our best to try notto think and black America does
(45:01):
the best at it with the leastreturn.
We'll spend 1.2 point trilliondollars on gear and stuff for
anyone else, but if we did itfor ourselves, we'd be the
richest nation.
We'd be one of the richestnations.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
But they don't look at it logically, they look at it
as it's easy.
I'll go there.
I don't have to.
I know what they mean.
You know I got it.
I still got to go and getmyself they know I'm down with
them shop at chain.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
They got it for half price.
But let me ask you to start ablack school.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I don't know if I got that money.
What do you mean?
You just spent $20 a week atthis store and you could have at
least given that $100 to me.
I didn't ask you to give me$1,000 or $100.
You got it, you got it, youdon't.
You don't your $100, $10, $5.
We want to start a blackeducation center.
(46:11):
You got it, you got it, youdon't.
You don't.
You're a hundred dollars, tendollars, five bucks.
We want to start a blackeducation center.
How many people chip in?
No, but they'll go buy thatnatural cup of coffee.
They'll go spend easily themoney they could have donated to
something they believe in, butit doesn't trigger them visually
.
So that means so many peoplecan't see forethought, which is
(46:40):
why they can never seeadvancement.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
So it's hard to talk to people about advancement when
it doesn't have a visualconnection to them.
To trigger the most majortraffic circle you've been in is
a visual lifestyle, whichbrings me to this.
Now, this is a small example.
I changed the thumbnails on thepodcast page.
The thumbnails didn't havefaces, they just had images.
(47:19):
Do you know?
The numbers went down.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Yeah, I was telling people that people got
accustomed to the visualization.
It's all visual, that's allthey know.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
It's all they know is visual.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Now you got them thinking gotta look for this.
I know they hit a name on theshow every time in the intro NYP
talk show.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
That's all you gotta type in right, but the changing
of the thumbnails brought thenumbers down because, it's
visual something they don'tvisually connect with right, so
that's heavy, that that's so.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Now we we from this podcast and past experiences
excuse me we know that thevisual is extremely, extremely I
told ron that there's thevisuals is very important
because people, they will assume, not knowing what goes on
behind the scene and we'll bearguing with you over $85.
(48:19):
You know what I'm saying it'sjust people that see, it's the
visual, they assume they seethis podcast and be like nah,
these dudes, it's not like that,there's a lot to it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
It's a lot to doing this right here.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
It's just like if you gave someone a choice of taking
$50,000 cash now in front ofyou or I'll give you $10,000 a
week, which one would you take?
They can't see.
$10,000 a week, which one would?
Speaker 3 (48:57):
you take.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
They can't see $10,000 a week.
I'll take the week, but theycan see $50,000 in front of them
.
They'll take that now andthey're like I'll decide what to
do with it.
So now I'm bringing in what youcall the ego, which is best
friends with the amygdala.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Oh, wait a minute.
You got to explain that right.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, ego and the amygdala of what it does.
It's their best, they're thebesties of best, like they went
to, like grade school together.
Best Ego wants to stand up forsomething it remembers being
(49:44):
better at, because ego can't bePresent or future, because ego
only Defends what it believes,takes away from me as a person
(50:06):
what I think of me, not what thenumbers say, not what things
say.
Just what I think of me, notwhat the numbers say, not what
things say.
You know what I mean.
Just what I think of me.
It will defend that as asurvival.
So it uses all the skills thatamygdala does to trigger the
same chemical response.
Man, I wouldn't do that.
(50:29):
You'd be like a fool.
What are you calling me A fool?
What you calling me a fool?
What me a fool?
You know me now.
You call me a fool Forgotten,all about why I told him Not to
do that.
He's not questioning that.
He's upset about the fool.
So now I'm going to defend, I'mgoing to do this anyway.
(50:49):
You can't tell me shit, right?
But if he?
So now I'm going to defend, I'mgoing to do this anyway, you
can't tell me shit, right.
But if he viewed you assomething he personally
respected, it would have nevergotten there.
It'd be like hey, mikey, whatare you talking about?
You wouldn't do what, whatyou're about ready to do right
(51:10):
there, and then we talk aboutwhatever it.
What you're about ready to doright there.
Then we talk about whatever itis.
I was about ready to do wecould talk about it logically.
I see your understandings.
Oh, I didn't know that Now Ican make a decision.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Eagle stands in front of all that.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Not a fan of the eagle at all.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
No, so the eagle Is basically attached to fear.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, I knew eagle as another.
I used to use it as anotherAcronym called edge god out.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, it's built on false pretense, grandual
illusion Like I'm the omnipotent, untouchable.
That's the ego, that's the ego.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
It's like a young running back coming into the
league and gets his first startsaying I can carry 30 times.
Do you know what it's like tocarry 30 times in the NFL?
We'll probably have to carryout in a stretcher.
Your body's going to be so sore.
If you don't build up to it,that little silly 18 games you
(52:27):
play Back down there Because youmade the playoffs or whatever.
There's nothing compared tobanging up with these guys.
30 carries a game.
Who's telling you this?
Emmitt Smith, you're going tolisten or you're not going to
listen Can't tell me nothing.
That's just an old man.
(52:49):
He don't know.
He don't know my body, thewhole game right.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
It sounds ridiculous.
He don't know my body.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
I don't know.
I was running back in the NFL,for you know 60, 70 years and
you're just now coming in.
All right, it isn't.
Ego doesn't get logic.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Mm-mm.
Don't you think ego isnecessary though?
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Okay, you need to explain to me how, where I can
tell you as equally and moreproductively conscious thinking
outweighs anything you couldever do.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Well, it depends on what you consider ego, because
ego also for me, is a defensemechanism to assure your safety
and dignity.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Okay, as a conscious being.
You have went through whatdignity is to me.
You've gone through dignity.
These are all the samequestions To the conscious
person.
What is dignity?
How would they know how tojudge me on my dignity?
(54:13):
Um, what type of you know?
So it goes through this logicalway of who said it, where they
said it, when they said it.
What's what's going on?
There's a history to does youknow what is this triggering
from the conscious?
Conscious level is thinking ofall that.
It's very fast, it's not asslow as me saying it, but it's
(54:36):
going through all thatpossibilities, configurations,
ego goes right back toexperience.
Someone's talked to me like thisbefore I don't like it, I'm
going to defend myself.
That's it.
I don't like it, I'm going todefend myself.
That's it.
It's like me Going back toMikey telling me I'm doing a
(54:57):
fool thing.
If I do that, I'm so focused onbeing called a fool Because In
my past Someone's called me afool.
Whatever someone thought of meas a fool, I didn't like the
negativity of being called afool.
Fool has a very Strongemotional pull.
Whatever Someone thought of meas a fool, I didn't like the
negativity of being called afool.
Fool has a very strongemotional pull and the word
(55:18):
triggered that pull.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Not my logic thinking .
Speaker 3 (55:29):
Got you, got you, that's deep, got you.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Wow, I hope the audience got that right there.
It's, it's, it's um, this partof the podcast.
You got to really think youknow if you, if you want to stay
on that loop man, good luck.
But you got to really payattention to really get what Dr
(55:54):
Dyer is saying, and right nowit's clear.
Thank you for coming out, drPaul Dyer, really appreciate you
.
We're going to get this ispre-recorded, but we're going to
get Dr Dyer back on a live.
That's a fact For sure, forsure.
Thank you for all who viewedthis.
What is it?
I'm going to post this, I think, saturday.
(56:16):
Thank you guys for viewing thisSaturday.
Really appreciate you.
We're back on live with Dr PaulDyer next week and we are out
of here and peace.
Peace are out of here and peace.
you what's going on.
Everybody is ron brown, lmt,the people's fitness
professional.
We have dr paul dyer on on onthis.
Ooh, I don't know what happenedwith that.
(00:27):
He'll come back, anyway.
So tonight we're talking aboutvisual, we're talking about how
visual affects our decisions,and yeah, so hold on one second,
he is back.
Yeah, so hold on one second, heis back.
(00:50):
He is back.
Visual affects our decisions.
That's what we're building on,or talking about this evening,
and, um, let's, let's go for it,let's go for it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
So so I, I got you know, we, we had known that we
were gonna to may want to dothis right, and I, because I am
not, I'm just not like regularfolk.
But when you take, and this gotme on the visual, and I saw
(01:25):
this commercial about a Charminthe Charmin bear, he came home,
he said something to his motherand his mother he has this
little book behind him and helooks like he's trying to hide
something.
He said so what's going on?
He's got glasses on and thebear is talking.
Right, and it's about Charmin.
But here's my thought on thevisual why bears would never
(01:51):
need glasses In its wholeexistence would never need
glasses.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
But now, that it's standing up learning algebra.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
All of a sudden it has these other deficiencies.
So I wondered why that is.
If you look over evolution oftime, for us to get more
streamlined into male that weknow now we might have had to
lose a lot of those naturalfactors through evolution of
(02:27):
time.
Obviously we didn't have to runso fast because we could build,
so that took the strength outof my legs.
You see what I mean.
We didn't have to wonder whereour food was growing from
because we were farming.
So that took all that thinkingout of it because we were
farming, so that took all thatthinking out of it.
(02:48):
But when it comes to visualstabilization, it has such a
strong effect on humans as weare now than most anything.
Think of how much we don't hearbecause someone says did you
hear that?
You go where you turn your headLike where are you talking
(03:10):
about?
So I can put a visual to itbefore I go back into.
I wonder if I hear what.
What did it sound like to you?
It sounded like this Thinkingthrough your hearing, I did hear
that.
But we don't do that.
We go, man, did you hear that?
And you're looking around likewhere Did something happen that
(03:30):
I missed before I tapped into myhearing.
We have been visualizing whatpeople have programmed for us to
visualize and how it needs toaffect our emotional being.
(03:54):
Ie, commercials, Whatever,poster notes, Poster notes,
whatever thing that's quick toyour visual.
Why has there been more womenin car ads?
Right, how does a woman make acar sell better when we know,
(04:26):
statistically, women are themost, they're the abundance.
Who buys big items, big ticketitems?
Very few men buy big ticketitems without their wife.
So why are there women in carads?
Because, visually, we want theman to earn and yearn for this
car and then somehow make reasonfor it, to talk it with our
(04:49):
wives.
But the visual is triggering allthis.
It's not logic, it's not this.
It's not that it's visual, it'sa very strong point because
they have what you call visualartists for all of our
politicians running for anoffice.
(05:10):
What do you look like and whatdoes your look say for you?
It's marketing.
They're not marketing yourhearing, your smell, your taste,
your touch.
They're marketing your visualexperiences wants pleasures.
(05:31):
That is what they want totrigger.
Almost like if you smellgrandma's cornbread, you're
going to start salivating.
They want you to salivatethrough the visual.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So let me share my camera, let me, can you share
the screen with me?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, upload it.
They're not going to add you.
Can you share the screen withme?
Upload it.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Then I can add you.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Oh, it wants me to upload it.
Yeah, you got to share it first, then I'll welcome it in.
That was a dope thing you saidabout the whole car adds.
What they do to trigger sensorsin the brain and evoke a
certain emotion, emotions out ofyou, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So even down to the politicians, um, their presentation, their
(06:35):
parents, someone where a red tieto exert power, that's that's,
that's that represents power.
So the color of the timeshowing the nuclear family of a
president how he speaks, hisaccomplishments, because you
know, that's all down tomarketing, that's what marketing
is.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
So let me.
We're getting here people forthe visual because I wanted to.
It's so psychological.
It's so much psychological.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Like the colors of McDonald's the red and yellow
Right or when you walk into asupermarket, the first thing you
do every human being does thisI'll bet you the first place you
walk is towards the right.
Am I right?
That's?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
where all the?
Speaker 3 (07:33):
produce are the sweets and everything is towards
the right.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, yep, it's to the right to share online video
files, live PDFs file from mycomputer and then from my
(07:59):
documents.
Man, if we had known.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Why are you searching for that?
Engage the listeners and theviewers.
Don't forget to comment, like,share, subscribe people and YP
Talk Show Super chats Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
And how?
Because you know, and how.
Because you know they say menare visual, this, or people are.
What do you call this type oflearner?
They're mostly affected by thisyeah.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
auditorial learners, visual learners and those who
require hands-on yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
You'll be amazed by what it has gotten you to do the
things they want you to do.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Mm-hmm the conditioning.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
I think I'm trying to open this, but this file is oh
shoot.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Let me open this, but I can't.
This file is oh shoot, is it?
Do you have to file in large,maximizing your screen, or?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Yeah, my slide's coming up on this one.
So the reason I want to showyou this because I wanted to
take you through the process.
The first thing is it entersand the diagram I have on here
is okay, now I can presentbecause it's right here in the
(10:17):
studio.
There you go, okay.
So can you expand this a littlebit so people can see it, or is
it all just me?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Let me see, the only thing I can do is this.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yep, do that.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
So as people can see, your eyes come in, so that
thymus, in the amygdala.
We have known that the amygdalais.
Now you can small it a littlebit.
Okay, you have known.
The amygdala has always beenpart of your fear system fight,
(10:58):
flight, things like that.
Right, it's the oldest part ofyour brain for survival.
That's all it knows.
It's really.
It doesn't learn more, itdoesn't know how to survive
better, whatever it can use tojust think about survival.
That's where that mygmia comesin, right Up here in the thymus,
(11:23):
as it goes back to the visualcortex, my next, the next slide
here.
That cortex now triggers thehippocampus pituitary and the
hypothalamus Right, which weknow just by up here it's the
(11:43):
stress.
So it starts shutting thingsdown.
The visual can shut emotionsdown that it does not register
something familiar with.
So it's looking for familiarity, it's not looking for logic.
(12:04):
And in that immediate visual,if something triggers a past
uncomfortableness, you startthis circle loop of panic.
Because circle loop of panic?
(12:28):
Because it goes down.
So it starts affecting yourimmune systems and below that we
can't see it anyway it startsaffecting your kidneys, your
liver, your heart.
The heart sends the mostmessages up into the brain.
(12:49):
So just from that visual.
If it doesn't recognizesomething familiar, it goes into
survival or something that'shappened in the past, it doesn't
know future.
Into survival or somethingthat's happened in the past.
It doesn't know future.
(13:09):
It has no future.
Your visual does not give youthe future.
The visual triggers everythingfrom the past and if that is
overwhelming, it stops a lot ofwhat you call the prefrontal
cortex from thinking critically.
Because now it's running thisloop.
(13:36):
I got my cortisol up there.
Going on, I am triggering mymotor skills Because in a fear
base we have to protectourselves in case something
harms us.
I got to figure out a way toget out of this.
That's what it's working on.
It's not working on logicalthinking.
If you're not a logicalthinking in the consciousness,
what I mean?
Think forward, don't bereminded of something, and
(14:01):
that's how you apply your logic.
Something.
And that's how you apply yourlogic, because that's how they
get you to move and go incertain directions.
Because something you're usedto, something you're familiar
with, something you recognize, Ican move you that way.
The next thing as you go downhere, so it starts, it triggers
(14:27):
this parasympathetic nervoussystem.
Right, you see how it's hardfor you to maintain focus, it
starts to release sleep hormonesbecause it wants your mind to
go into habitual, so you don'tever have to worry about
(14:49):
thinking too hard.
So that's where it releases thesleep hormones, the serotonin
it wants to bring you down tolike it's okay, I'm going to
remember what I remember.
This is how I live my life.
It's going to be hard to changeand I'm okay with that.
That's what that hormone doesto you.
This is serotonin.
But in this effect it has aneffect If you don't know how to
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stop this circle from affectingit all the way down into your
body, right Liver, digestivemuscle, resting, heartbeat.
So if you're you know, starttriggering all those other
stress things we've alwaystalked about.
That's what visual.
(15:39):
That's what visual is.
That's what that's the scienceof visual.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay.
So let's say, if, uh, you knowI have um advertisement and you
know I want to put, I wantpeople to react to the
advertisement psychologically tomaybe go out there and buy some
something then they're going toput something out there that
(16:05):
triggers an emotional responsefor them to move, for people to
move.
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Entice them certain colors sounds symbols yeah, yeah
, wow, that's deep.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Now how would I recognize and believe me?
Trust me, this is not a jab.
95 percentile of the people are.
This is what this is, Unlessyou train yourself to think
(16:54):
about what you've seen or whatyou're looking at as a behavior
analysis.
When I look at people, I lookat for who they are In that
moment.
That gives me way moreinformation Than looking at a
past video.
(17:15):
I can look at a past video andcompare, but we humans A lot of
us look at something as moreexperience, our emotions, things
(17:36):
we're taught.
So we look at more of the pastfor reference than looking at
the information given to you atthe point.
And that's how you know you'rein a strong visual loop.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Okay.
So you basically say I can'thelp but to say, dr Dyer, when
you teach, it's like it's forall, but it's like this is
geared towards African-Americancommunity and blacks abroad,
because everything that you'resaying to me it ties back to
what people in this country haveendured and abroad and people
(18:17):
of color, basically.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I'll give you a perfect example.
There's something that I'vebeen trying to fight for this
type of education around thecountry and some people anyway.
When blacks get pulled over,people of dark skin get pulled
over, or in their front porch,on their lawn, walking down the
(18:43):
street, anything.
When a police officer says canI see some ID?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Pulled over.
Can I see your license?
Blacks know now you don't haveto give up your ID unless it has
something to do with you.
The police officer has to tellyou why they stopped you before
(19:15):
they ask for your license.
Right, you can be right andstill be dead being right.
Yeah because what it turns intoby police officers, white police
officer turns into I asked forit, you give it to me.
(19:37):
Now it jumps into resisting,resisting arrest Right, or
whatever they can make up atthat time.
Now you could be legally right.
You don't have to show themthat the passenger never has to
give an ID or their name.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
This is not their property.
But when you do that out in thestreet, what happens?
Because it's so visual ofnegative things we have in our
mind about the police, our tonecomes out differently, not
because I'm speaking my mind,but my tone is a lot more
(20:21):
threatening.
It's a lot more I'm going toboy, you have no idea.
If I get out of this car I'mgoing to whoop you or whatever,
right, because if a white persondoes it, both visuals are in
(20:43):
the same level playing field.
That's why a white person beingpulled over can I'm not doing
this.
Nope, get your supervisor, youain't going to do me.
The opposite color comes in.
They reach in your car, they'redragging you out of your car
and you're like what is going onand you're resisting arrest.
(21:04):
All this because we don't alignvisually, which triggers
certain kinds of historicalemotions gotcha that's how the
visual is such a hard player,even on our everyday lives.
(21:25):
It's what's depicted ontelevision.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
That's how the visual is such a hard player, even on
our everyday lives.
It's what's depicted ontelevision and, as you said, the
mental trauma, the scarring,you know you, basically you in
constant trepidation.
So that's why in ourcommunities mostly like people
with poor health, because theirmind is constantly going, they
(21:46):
replay things from the past andwhat they've seen on television.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
So how do you get out of this?
You can say let's go back tothe car.
Why'd you pull me over, sir?
I need to see a licensed driver.
It is my right to request you,tell me why you pulled me over.
He starts saying are you tryingto resist arrest?
(22:10):
That's when all that stops.
Here's my license, or I'm notgiving you anything and let's go
.
You know, detain me Right Downat the police station.
Let's go do that Because I'mnot speaking anymore.
If you haven't told me, they'lltell you to get out of the car,
(22:34):
put your hands behind your backand you're going downtown.
It's a little bit annoying, butyou get to then tell your story
in a court Because they can'texplain by camera.
We're breaking out our camerasnow that I asked for something,
I requested it and all of asudden it turned into this.
(22:56):
But if I raise my voice, you'rewrong and it changes the
outcome, or it has a possibilityof changing the outcome of how
badly this reflects on theofficer.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Got you, got you, got you.
Now the visual loop.
If you could explain that onemore time, because as you
explained it, it went throughthe eyes, brain, and then it
went through the internal organs, there Right, and then it went
through the internal organsthere, right?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So, as you can see up on the picture there still,
that once it comes in it comesthrough that prefrontal cortex
but it has a straight B line tothe thymus and the amygdala,
right that circle to the visualcortex.
That's the loop.
The amygdala, the thymus, picksup the chemistry right.
(24:01):
Once it starts to do, thevisual cortex says how am I
supposed to respond?
The amygdala sees like, oh, Ican grab this through
experiences, education or thingsin the past.
So now, after this littlediscussion, and if it's not a
(24:21):
thought process, because thiscan break as soon as it goes to
the thymus, it goes to thevisual cortex.
It doesn't have to go to theamygdala.
But when we are visuallystressed or something is
alarming to us, this is theroute.
After that, negatively, it goesthrough that cortex, right, it
(24:49):
hits.
Now it opens up some of theseother nervous systems and
adrenal systems and some othersystems in your body.
As you know, you have 12systems in your body, right?
So this is saying hownegatively affects, which
affects your heart, your liver,your kidneys, right?
(25:16):
All that's starting to beaffected by what you're
visualizing from the past.
This doesn't trigger thisnegative effect because you
can't have stress on somethingyou've never been before.
Because you can't have stresson something you've never been
(25:41):
before.
By definition, you cannot havestress on something you've never
did before.
The only way you create thestress is your mind tries for
you to associate differentthings that were scary to you,
that you afraid of, and put thatinto this category, and it's
going to give you that alarmlike, oh, I, I don't know if I
(26:02):
could do that.
I, I have anxiety.
But you've never flown a plane,you've never been on a plane or
a train.
You know what I mean, but Ijust got this anxiety.
Well, that's your telling you.
You have the anxiety becauseyou've never been here before.
You know what I mean.
This is new.
So how can you have somethingof old in something of new?
(26:25):
You can't.
So then, after it goes throughthat cycle, it starts affecting
how it comes down to the spinalcord.
I could have brought in thenerves that came off, that C8
there, the C5 there, that's thebreathing there.
(26:46):
I could have brought in morefiles.
It would just lose you into therabbit hole because there's
nerves and basically it says it.
That's why it says providesconstant muscle stimulation, the
nerves that runs and deliversthat information, has all these
(27:08):
other friends and it's like, oh,I didn't know you were going
through this, so let me help youwith this.
So that's why you know why yourdigestive system could be off.
You can have diarrhea, you havea nervous stomach, you feel
like you want to throw up.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
High cholesterol.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, so you have all these other informations being
passed over.
Passed around all because whatyou see, Right right, right
right.
Gotcha.
(27:43):
So when we talk aboutconsciousness and we have talked
about consciousness and thesubconscious, this is where the
subconscious immediately takesover is right in the amygdala.
Right, because, if I'm thinking, there is no need for the
(28:06):
amygdala to even wake up.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Right, right.
So for what I know about theamygdala is that the amygdala is
like you know, it's like it'spretty much about fear.
It regulates, you know, um thatfear emotion right now, for
what I learned about it is thatit's not connected somewhere.
It's not really connected tothe brain.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
I think something no, it's a little lube.
It's got a little bridge to gothrough, it's connected, but
it's not really connected to thebrain, I think.
No, it's a little loop, it'sgot a little bridge to go
through, it's connected, butit's not like the other big part
.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Right, right, right.
So now, how does that?
How does the amygdala beingthat it doesn't?
It's attached to the brain, butit's kind of not.
How does it affect the brain?
That's kind of not.
How is it?
How does it affect the brain?
That's what I'm trying tofigure out, like well, because
there's still.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
There's still a way to signal between the amygdala
and parts of the other bodyright, because it's still close
to down here into our brain stem.
So it it has to pass by.
But the amygdala has a lot ofinfluence because, basically,
(29:18):
what it says I've done this.
I've been here before, this iswhat I was told, this is what I
remember, this is what I'm usedto.
A lot of this stuff is going toharm you.
Protect yourself, make sure youhave food, make sure you
Protect yourself, make sure youhave food, make sure you have
water, make sure you have safety.
If something directly affectsme this is why people don't
(29:41):
volunteer If it doesn't directlyaffect me, I'm going to shelter
my energy in Right, that's whatit is yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Now, how do you gain control over the amygdala?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
By thinking, by consciously thinking, of what
I'm like, the process.
I'm going to say this becauseyou have time in your brain.
I'm going to say this but whatis the outcome of how this
officer approached my car?
(30:18):
Is it reasonable that I'll gothrough this two or three times
before I see the officer getagitated?
Do I want to make a statementhere?
Am I trying to just prove mypoint because I have you on
YouTube?
Am I thinking I'm going to geta lot of big payday out of this
(30:39):
if he really harms me or twistsmy shoulder?
The problem with those ideas isthat you didn't do the research
.
You heard about a couple of twoor three people 10, 100,
whatever that gotten some moneyout of the police and you're
going to use that as yourwelfare plan.
(31:01):
Are you thinking this through?
Probably not, right.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
So basically you have to be your own prototype.
Probably not right?
Speaker 1 (31:14):
so basically you have to be your own prototype every
day, all the time got you thatmakes a lot of sense okay, now,
as far as the visual in thesubconscious mind, the amygdala,
(31:35):
and so the visual consciousmind, the unconscious mind, the
unconscious mind or thesubconscious mind in the
amygdala, it pretty much allworks in unison, right, right,
(31:57):
it, it so it.
You recorded already some pasttrauma, yeah, and then, and then
you see something and that,whatever you see, that alert,
that alarms you, it, it bringsyou, it triggers like a past
experience and it triggers.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
It triggers the same emotions you had at that
experience that you are equatingto at this time.
So it produces because maybeyou're older, you're a little
bit stronger, whatever your lifehas changed it produces more
(32:29):
chemicals of a negative side, sothis doesn't get like, oh, I'm
getting this.
No, it produces more and itbuilds up in the body.
These type of chemicals don't?
They cause cellular damage.
So cells are being damagedbecause of this, of long periods
(32:54):
, of all day, of this.
So even your good cells youknow it's like good cells
walking down a high schoolhallway full of hoot looms and
these good cells are just tryingto get to class and you got all
these other knuckleheadsbanging from wall to wall,
laughing.
And you got all these otherknuckleheads banging from wall
(33:15):
to wall, laughing and giggling,all this other stuff, and came
to school to socialize but notto get the education.
That's why it's all about whathappened in the past, because
they don't need any newinformation or education.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Okay, makes sense.
That makes sense.
So, being that you know theamygdala and you know you have
to in the subconscious mind, youhave to, actually, you have to
be, you have to actively putwork in, so to speak.
Yeah, yeah and that's, andthere, it is.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I have to put the work in, so to speak yeah, yeah,
and that's and that's and thereand there it is.
I have to put the work in.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
So do you think that you can put that work?
You could use visual topossibly fix whatever's going on
there.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Absolutely Visual.
You can do instead of lookingat something and never saying it
out loud about what you justlooked at and you think you're
just scanning the room, but thenclose your eyes and ask
yourself you scan the room, butwhat do you remember seeing?
(34:30):
Go into another room right, youknow what section you you
started from and stopped as younormally, turn your head right,
go to another room and askmyself what did I just see?
How many things you could writedown and be right or even be
close.
I'm telling you now.
(34:51):
I've done it to my students.
I've been doing it for a longtime.
It takes years to practice thattype of concentrated thinking
as I'm scanning the room.
Now we train these otherprofessionals to do this type of
(35:11):
stuff, like a good detectiveright Professionals to do this
type of stuff, like a gooddetective right or other people
who do investigation.
But for us we scan room and like, oh yeah, that looks the same.
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Yeah, which is why they say in the situations.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
an alligator could walk by you and it wouldn't
trigger anything, so can you usecolors.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
You know, like different colors, different
paintings, pictures to help youreset, if you will, for lack of
a better term.
No, because you're reallyworking on what you call
centering, focusing and, likeyou, only look at a particular
thing for a particular timeinstead of looking as you are
walking through your ownpersonal life.
As you are walking through yourown personal life, and when you
can, when you have time, youcan go to an office or a place
(36:19):
of work every day.
Do it in a locker room,whatever you can in your house,
in your kitchen, just lookaround and then get a piece of
paper and write down what yousaw You're going to start.
This is what I saw, but is itwhat you remember?
Speaker 3 (36:39):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
That's going to give you.
Once you open your eye, be likeoh man that's not there anymore
.
She must have taken it down, orshe must have put it away, or
somebody must have moved it,because I was sure I remember
being there.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
Basically, you're centering, your, centering your,
your attention, subconsciously,constantly and subconsciously,
basically Right.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You, you, you, you, you're learning to be aware of
what you are consciouslyactively doing what you are
consciously actively doing, andthat's how you sort of reset.
Right.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
That's how you reprogram.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, because you, you can.
You can say, you know, you canlook around and like, just like
you said, like I look at my deskand I'm sure, I'm sure this pen
is going to be there every time.
And then, but is it reallythere, right?
(37:46):
Right, because in your mind youthink it's there, but maybe
it's not.
Maybe my daughter moved it, orsomething like that.
And I'm like now I'm like okay,I got to kind of like rethink
this whole.
That's why.
Is that the reason why when,when things are missing, you're
so like disheveled?
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Well, that is great, because when you're disheveled
all the way down to its core isthe unknown.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
And we fear what we don't know.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
We fear what we don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
We fear what we don't know.
Okay.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
That's a fact, it's a fact, that's a fact.
Speaker 2 (38:48):
But we've said this before over time again Words
have meanings and frequenciesand vibrations and it has a way
to travel into your body bythose waves and frequencies,
because the words are the words.
You can surround it with otherobligatory words to hopefully
(39:09):
mean something in a sentence,but that's not the case.
Right Words, all words havetheir own significant vibrations
.
Like I know people use fire orsomething good.
Right, that's fire, it's fire,but the word is negative.
(39:39):
The last time fire was used asa positive is when they invented
it.
But fire means in thedictionary destruction.
It talks about heat and flameand oxygen and the flammables
(39:59):
and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
But it's negative, right, right, right.
To take it back to the visualand resetting your amygdala and
your response sensors or yourtrigger responses your trigger
responses your trigger responses.
(40:24):
What about the visual and your,your hearing sensories?
They work together.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
They can work together, but some have
alternate issues.
Some have more priority whatthey think it is.
This is why you can't trust awitness.
Speaker 3 (40:54):
You said that, dr Dyer, about the sensory and the
visual and the auditorial.
It's like walking down thestreet, for instance right
Subconsciously, you know all thesounds.
It's like before you sensedanger.
The sounds somehow always shift.
You can tell something's off.
When the sounds shift, themovement around you changes.
Isn't that part of that as well?
(41:17):
The amygdala it is.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
But here's the thing.
Let me explain to you this waytoo, because I think I
understand how Ron was asking.
Is that so?
I see something?
I have a fear response.
But as it goes through andpicks up in my hearing, my
(41:40):
hearing should be like why areyou afraid of that, right?
yeah so it doesn't.
It doesn't have a biggerdecision-making.
(42:00):
As the car gets filled up withall its other senses, visual
drives a lot.
It's always driving Right.
It's always driving Right,unless you're thinking.
Then the other five senses areriding in the back of the
minivan and what you callthere's another driver.
(42:25):
Because we can't drive andthink, the visual sees, it
recognizes, it knows where it'sgoing to go, how it's going to
travel.
Audio is questioning it.
But you're starting to make alot of sense.
With your experiences, youreducation, you're looping things
(42:49):
.
Now this goes back into why isit such a strong way of wanting
to loop?
It's because 95% of your lifeis ran subconsciously.
So the mind wants to puteverything into habitual, which
makes it easier to use lessprotein, less carbohydrates and
less energy.
And I'll say what I think isimportant to where the brain
(43:14):
really has to do the criticalthinking.
And if I can really move thatdown to let you think, eh, it's
not that big a deal.
You probably say, forget aboutit, right, and let the
subconscious do its thing.
Not many people think in a day.
That's what I'm trying to tellyou.
(43:34):
Not many people think in a day.
That's what I'm trying to tellyou.
Speaker 1 (43:36):
Not many people think in a day.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
They don't.
Thinking takes work.
See if people thoughtthroughout the day they wouldn't
come back from work going.
Man, that was a hard dayBecause that's when they had to
think.
That lets you know what therest of your life is like.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Everything is just like programmed Nature, yep.
Speaker 2 (44:16):
A loop Got you.
When kids will come home fromkindergarten full day
kindergarten or first grade theycrash, they crash, they take a
nap, they're going to lay down,they're going to be.
I'm hungry.
I just want to chill in theirown little six-year-old way,
(44:38):
seven-year-old way.
I just want to chill.
They're not want to thinkbecause this whole direction be
quiet over here it's gettingthem to think.
Humans do our best to try notto think and black America does
(45:01):
the best at it with the leastreturn.
We'll spend 1.2 point trilliondollars on gear and stuff for
anyone else, but if we did itfor ourselves, we'd be the
richest nation.
We'd be one of the richestnations.
Speaker 3 (45:18):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (45:20):
But they don't look at it logically, they look at it
as it's easy.
I'll go there.
I don't have to.
I know what they mean.
You know I got it.
I still got to go and getmyself they know I'm down with
them shop at chain.
Speaker 3 (45:44):
They got it for half price.
But let me ask you to start ablack school.
Speaker 2 (45:51):
I don't know if I got that money.
What do you mean?
You just spent $20 a week atthis store and you could have at
least given that $100 to me.
I didn't ask you to give me$1,000 or $100.
You got it, you got it, youdon't.
You don't your $100, $10, $5.
We want to start a blackeducation center.
(46:11):
You got it, you got it, youdon't.
You don't.
You're a hundred dollars, tendollars, five bucks.
We want to start a blackeducation center.
How many people chip in?
No, but they'll go buy thatnatural cup of coffee.
They'll go spend easily themoney they could have donated to
something they believe in, butit doesn't trigger them visually
.
So that means so many peoplecan't see forethought, which is
(46:40):
why they can never seeadvancement.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
So it's hard to talk to people about advancement when
it doesn't have a visualconnection to them.
To trigger the most majortraffic circle you've been in is
a visual lifestyle, whichbrings me to this.
Now, this is a small example.
I changed the thumbnails on thepodcast page.
The thumbnails didn't havefaces, they just had images.
(47:19):
Do you know?
The numbers went down.
Speaker 3 (47:22):
Yeah, I was telling people that people got
accustomed to the visualization.
It's all visual, that's allthey know.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
It's all they know is visual.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
Now you got them thinking gotta look for this.
I know they hit a name on theshow every time in the intro NYP
talk show.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
That's all you gotta type in right, but the changing
of the thumbnails brought thenumbers down because, it's
visual something they don'tvisually connect with right, so
that's heavy, that that's so.
Speaker 3 (47:55):
Now we we from this podcast and past experiences
excuse me we know that thevisual is extremely, extremely I
told ron that there's thevisuals is very important
because people, they will assume, not knowing what goes on
behind the scene and we'll bearguing with you over $85.
(48:19):
You know what I'm saying it'sjust people that see, it's the
visual, they assume they seethis podcast and be like nah,
these dudes, it's not like that,there's a lot to it, yeah.
Speaker 1 (48:35):
It's a lot to doing this right here.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
It's just like if you gave someone a choice of taking
$50,000 cash now in front ofyou or I'll give you $10,000 a
week, which one would you take?
They can't see.
$10,000 a week, which one would?
Speaker 3 (48:57):
you take.
Speaker 2 (48:58):
They can't see $10,000 a week.
I'll take the week, but theycan see $50,000 in front of them
.
They'll take that now andthey're like I'll decide what to
do with it.
So now I'm bringing in what youcall the ego, which is best
friends with the amygdala.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
Oh, wait a minute.
You got to explain that right.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, ego and the amygdala of what it does.
It's their best, they're thebesties of best, like they went
to, like grade school together.
Best Ego wants to stand up forsomething it remembers being
(49:44):
better at, because ego can't bePresent or future, because ego
only Defends what it believes,takes away from me as a person
(50:06):
what I think of me, not what thenumbers say, not what things
say.
Just what I think of me, notwhat the numbers say, not what
things say.
You know what I mean.
Just what I think of me.
It will defend that as asurvival.
So it uses all the skills thatamygdala does to trigger the
same chemical response.
Man, I wouldn't do that.
(50:29):
You'd be like a fool.
What are you calling me A fool?
What you calling me a fool?
What me a fool?
You know me now.
You call me a fool Forgotten,all about why I told him Not to
do that.
He's not questioning that.
He's upset about the fool.
So now I'm going to defend, I'mgoing to do this anyway.
(50:49):
You can't tell me shit, right?
But if he?
So now I'm going to defend, I'mgoing to do this anyway, you
can't tell me shit, right.
But if he viewed you assomething he personally
respected, it would have nevergotten there.
It'd be like hey, mikey, whatare you talking about?
You wouldn't do what, whatyou're about ready to do right
(51:10):
there, and then we talk aboutwhatever it.
What you're about ready to doright there.
Then we talk about whatever itis.
I was about ready to do wecould talk about it logically.
I see your understandings.
Oh, I didn't know that Now Ican make a decision.
Speaker 3 (51:27):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
Eagle stands in front of all that.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Not a fan of the eagle at all.
Speaker 1 (51:34):
No, so the eagle Is basically attached to fear.
Speaker 2 (51:41):
Yeah, I knew eagle as another.
I used to use it as anotherAcronym called edge god out.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
Yeah, it's built on false pretense, grandual
illusion Like I'm the omnipotent, untouchable.
That's the ego, that's the ego.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
It's like a young running back coming into the
league and gets his first startsaying I can carry 30 times.
Do you know what it's like tocarry 30 times in the NFL?
We'll probably have to carryout in a stretcher.
Your body's going to be so sore.
If you don't build up to it,that little silly 18 games you
(52:27):
play Back down there Because youmade the playoffs or whatever.
There's nothing compared tobanging up with these guys.
30 carries a game.
Who's telling you this?
Emmitt Smith, you're going tolisten or you're not going to
listen Can't tell me nothing.
That's just an old man.
(52:49):
He don't know.
He don't know my body, thewhole game right.
Speaker 3 (52:58):
It sounds ridiculous.
He don't know my body.
Speaker 2 (53:04):
I don't know.
I was running back in the NFL,for you know 60, 70 years and
you're just now coming in.
All right, it isn't.
Ego doesn't get logic.
Speaker 1 (53:17):
Mm-mm.
Don't you think ego isnecessary though?
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Okay, you need to explain to me how, where I can
tell you as equally and moreproductively conscious thinking
outweighs anything you couldever do.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
Well, it depends on what you consider ego, because
ego also for me, is a defensemechanism to assure your safety
and dignity.
Speaker 2 (53:52):
Okay, as a conscious being.
You have went through whatdignity is to me.
You've gone through dignity.
These are all the samequestions To the conscious
person.
What is dignity?
How would they know how tojudge me on my dignity?
(54:13):
Um, what type of you know?
So it goes through this logicalway of who said it, where they
said it, when they said it.
What's what's going on?
There's a history to does youknow what is this triggering
from the conscious?
Conscious level is thinking ofall that.
It's very fast, it's not asslow as me saying it, but it's
(54:36):
going through all thatpossibilities, configurations,
ego goes right back toexperience.
Someone's talked to me like thisbefore I don't like it, I'm
going to defend myself.
That's it.
I don't like it, I'm going todefend myself.
That's it.
It's like me Going back toMikey telling me I'm doing a
(54:57):
fool thing.
If I do that, I'm so focused onbeing called a fool Because In
my past Someone's called me afool.
Whatever someone thought of meas a fool, I didn't like the
negativity of being called afool.
Fool has a very Strongemotional pull.
Whatever Someone thought of meas a fool, I didn't like the
negativity of being called afool.
Fool has a very strongemotional pull and the word
(55:18):
triggered that pull.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
Not my logic thinking .
Speaker 3 (55:29):
Got you, got you, that's deep, got you.
Speaker 1 (55:33):
Wow, I hope the audience got that right there.
It's, it's, it's um, this partof the podcast.
You got to really think youknow if you, if you want to stay
on that loop man, good luck.
But you got to really payattention to really get what Dr
(55:54):
Dyer is saying, and right nowit's clear.
Thank you for coming out, drPaul Dyer, really appreciate you
.
We're going to get this ispre-recorded, but we're going to
get Dr Dyer back on a live.
That's a fact For sure, forsure.
Thank you for all who viewedthis.
What is it?
I'm going to post this, I think, saturday.
(56:16):
Thank you guys for viewing thisSaturday.
Really appreciate you.
We're back on live with Dr PaulDyer next week and we are out
of here and peace.
Peace are out of here and peace.
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