September 3, 2025 • 71 mins
What happens when neighborhoods that once thrived as centers of Black culture are systematically dismantled? In this thought-provoking conversation, Ron Brown welcomes Malachi Kane to explore the transformation of our communities and chart a path forward.
Kane offers a refreshingly balanced perspective on neighborhood change. While acknowledging the devastating impacts of drugs, violence, over-policing, and gentrification, he celebrates an overlooked truth: "We held on where others could not." This recognition of resilience provides a crucial counterweight to narratives focused solely on decline. As cultural landmarks disappear and familiar faces are displaced, the conversation examines how communities maintain their identity when physical spaces are lost.
The discussion ventures beyond local concerns to examine global connections, particularly regarding intentional engagement with Africa. Kane cautions against "nigga safari" tourism, instead advocating for purposeful business relationships and cultural exchange. His candid advice for travelers reveals common pitfalls while offering practical guidance for meaningful connections across the diaspora.
At the heart of community survival lies housing stability. Kane identifies this as the foundation upon which all other progress depends, noting that African Americans represent 77% of homelessness applications nationwide. The conversation shifts from problems to solutions, highlighting Seattle's Centralized Diversion Fund, which has distributed over $10 million for housing support.
What emerges is a comprehensive vision for community preservation that combines practical housing initiatives with digital sovereignty and global connection. Kane challenges listeners to look beyond outdated models and embrace collective action: "We need to come to the table, meet, and create the unified front."
Ready to be part of the solution? Visit AfricaTownInternational.org to learn how you can contribute to community-led housing initiatives and join the movement to build livable Black communities for generations to come.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, what's going on?
Everybody, it's Ron Brown, lmt,the People's Fitness
Professional, reporting for duty.
Wait, is that how it goes?
Ron Brown, lmt.
People's Fitness Professional,aka Soul Brother number one,
(00:23):
reporting for duty.
All right, fitness professional, aka Soul Brother number one
reporting for duty.
On the check-in, we gotMagnetic in the building.
Malachi Kane in the building.
Peace, peace to everybody,whoever's in the chat, whoever's
going to come on to the chatlater on.
As you know, they probablyexpect it 7 pm and then we're
(00:44):
about 10 minutes off.
But it's all good, y'all catchyou later.
Thank you for coming out again,malachi Kane.
Thank you, magmatic forbringing us brother on today.
We're going to pretty much.
We're on TikTok.
I'm hitting TikTok up prettyhard, y'all.
Nyp Talk Show.
I posted Malachi Kane's video.
(01:08):
That's about 1527 on the views,People like that.
You got a great response aboutKansas City on that one.
Yeah, the Kansas City mob andthings like that.
You got some comments on that.
But let's go into the questionsyou know.
(01:30):
First off, like I said, thankyou for coming out.
How are you feeling today,brother?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Thank you for having me.
It's good to have a forum wherewe can come together without
any foolishness and really getdown to the straight talking
business that impacts andaffects us all and our future.
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
So now I want to go into.
We asked you what region andcity you're from last week and
the things that your city isbest known for and how much of
of your neighborhood remainstoday.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I want to talk about that um, the degradational
process of the drugs and theviolence, uh, the over policing,
um, and the influx of, I won'tsay necessarily, immigrants, but
but other populations coming inwith a separate agenda, have
(02:31):
pretty much, you know, reallydiluted and done away with the
place.
That I know, you know, as Ithink most of us can, can attest
to from our own various areas,most of us can, can attest to
from our, our own various areas,uh, so, uh, the area is, is, is
(02:52):
degraded.
There's some icons there thatwe all can call out to like
we're all chiefs, fans and we'reall this, and that you know the
super bowl guys and you knowwhere the barbecue people are
there, you know, but it's justit doesn't have the same soul
that it had before.
You know, and that what I meanby that, it was coming from the
(03:12):
people, by the people, for thepeople.
Now it's coming from the peoplefor the money.
And I don't know if that makessense, but that's a transition,
a translation of our culturefrom for us to benefit us to,
hey, man, whoever stepped to thething first, we're going to
(03:33):
serve them and you know, getthem out of here, and money is
green and we don't care aboutblack in between and all of that
.
So that's the kind of thesentiment that that I see you
know, not only there buteverywhere.
And you know, and I know it's alot of negative talk a lot of
times about our communities.
(03:53):
I just want to say and send ashout out to everybody that's
listening and that will listenwe held on where no one else
could.
We held on to these blocks,these schools, these
neighborhoods, even if it's justby the pinky toe that we
holding on and about to fallinto the pot, the melting pot or
(04:15):
whatever they want to call itthis year.
But we held on where otherswould not and could not, and
that's obvious.
You got people fleeing theirown country, where they speak
their own language, just to comehere because they fell off and
we have gone nowhere.
You know, our, our school mighthave went somewhere.
(04:35):
Our community center wentsomewhere.
Our favorite nightclub orhangout spot went somewhere.
The park went somewhere.
You know, even our house mighthave went somewhere.
The park went somewhere.
You know, even our house mighthave went somewhere.
But we stayed and we remain tocontinue to fight and try to
hold on to all we got.
And so somebody got to shoutthat out.
And so I just wanted to do that, man, for all of us in these
metropolitan areas that havebeen assaulted since the 80s up
(04:59):
until now, with everything fromdope to police, to our own
people, you know, gunning usdown in the most ruthless of
ways, to the racism, theinability to find housing, jobs,
all of that.
Somebody got to shout that out.
Brothers and sisters that haveheld on, I commend to us.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Definitely Salute, salute.
You know what I never thoughtof, that you gotta think of that
.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I want you to think about it.
Yeah, I don't want you to thinkabout that.
Everything we're doing is afailure when no silver lining on
that dark cloud.
But that's not the reality.
We're still here.
We're still here, as we'restill here.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
As an actual fact.
So, you know, you basicallyspoke on, you know, the
immigration issue and we weretalking kind of talking about
that.
I think you were alluding tothat before we got on the
podcast.
We were talking about New York,you know as far as like.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, as far as like definitely yeah, as far as like
yeah, no, I was just saying man,I had, you know, I used to
frequently uh visit uh themosque in, uh, new york, you
know, um, and and uh, you know,uh, all the way over to long
island, bronx, everywhere, youknow.
(06:26):
And you know the whole vibe inthe 90s was different, um,
meaning, and again, there was aculture and a community that had
been set up for us, by us, youknow, and uh, one that we could
involve ourselves in with, youknow, no stipulations.
(06:48):
You know, come as you are, youknow, a welcoming, open arm
community, and you know you dideverything from shop, pray, eat,
sleep, and you was at home.
You was at home and it feltgood, you know.
And now that feeling is gone andthere's an urgency that has
(07:11):
been put on everybody in thesecommunities and that urgency is
one of we're on limited time,we're not wanted, not wanted.
There's a force pushing and wedon't feel strong enough to push
(07:31):
back with enough strength tomaintain our footing or our
position, and that's a feeling,that it's an insecurity that we
see now.
And you know, a lot of times wedon't look at it like this and
we've always been welcoming, ourcommunity has always been
welcoming, whether the peoplewere Jamaican or African or
(07:52):
Hispanic or whatever.
You know, and on our last talk Iwas calling out to movies that
were uh, mirrors or or uhcalling out to our culture.
Calling out to our culture, youknow, look at the movie
Breaking and B Street and Colorsand all these other movies, you
know, regardless if they werenegative or positive, you always
(08:12):
saw us in the mix, with amulti-ethnic facets and groups
of people coming together tocelebrate our culture and to
push it forward.
Okay, so that's always been ouridentity.
Okay, we were never uh, uhexclusive, you know of, of other
groups and people, but you know, as more and more came that
(08:36):
were exclusive of us.
You know, and we all hear thatstory about people getting on
the boat or the plane orwhatever to come here and
getting a pep talk about don'tmess with those
African-Americans and you stayaway from that community and
don't get caught up with thoseguys.
They'll put you in trouble andthis and this and that.
You know, and in doing the workthat I do, I have to testify
(08:59):
that that is an actual realitycoming from the State Department
of the United States of America.
It's not some fantasy orconspiracy or whatever.
That is a reality.
There are movies, there are PSAmovies in multiple languages,
detailing this to them how theywill lose their citizenship, and
(09:20):
this and that so you got thisgroup coming in with already a
negative aversion to mingling,communicating or working
together.
Okay, so we all seen the peoplethat had the, you know, the gas
face for us and we didn'treally trip on it because it was
(09:42):
always somebody else thatwanted to come to the hood and
hang out or come to the hood andcontribute, or come to the hood
and just watch.
You know what I'm saying.
So we never took much stake init.
But as time and the years andvolumes of people went by on top
of us, you know, it began totake an effect and now we're
(10:03):
starting to see that effect.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And it's the time that we really need to speak up,
stand up and, you know, maybeeven act up.
Man, oh man.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Why you put that in my head, why you did that to me,
man, because what I'm talkingto, what I'm speaking to, um,
it's not hatred, it's notdislike, it's not anger, it's
none of that, it's survival,right, and somebody has trained
you myself and everybody else todownplay our own survival for
someone else's.
That is what is in style,that's what feels comfortable.
You know, anytime we go into aspace and we speak about our
(10:54):
survival, we automatically have,you know, pressure on us oh,
hold it down, wait a minute.
What are you saying?
You know, but when we speak toour survival and the fact that
we are, to an extent, endangeredyou know, when we speak to that
, and then the factors that arecreating that danger, then we're
(11:16):
saying something hostile orsomething unwanted, you know,
and that's where we get theflack and the pushback.
But the most important thing, Ithink, for everyone immigrant
otherwise, because at one pointin time you're going to realize
we are one people and us as betatest subjects and models for
(11:54):
the destruction of ethniccultures and civilizations
globally.
Okay, I'm going to repeatdestroy a people on us.
First they have tested that outon us, perfected it, and now
they are exporting that acrossthe board to any and all ethnic
(12:17):
groups and other people that arenon-Anglo, non-white and
non-supportive of the supremacydoctrine therein.
So when we look at that, youknow we grew up I don't know
about you, I grew up watching.
(12:39):
You know friends go to schooleating cereal with water.
You know we go to school.
Your parents go next door andget high.
You know people come up to theschool, have a shootout right
after the school ends.
We get on the bus and go homeand see the junkies everywhere,
get off the bus and go home andhave to fight and walk through.
(13:00):
You know all kinds of different.
You know situations and things,whether it was prostitutes
fighting or police arrestingsomeone, whatever it was just
negative imagery was constantlycompounded upon us.
So we took that as that was thehood, that was the ghetto, that
(13:20):
was just normal, ok.
So now what they have done iscreated that normal, that normal
thought process for everybody'schildren, ok, and it has just
as it destabilized us and gaveus a negative impression of our
own place where we lived, andour own people.
(13:41):
Now it's doing the same forothers.
We're starting to see gangviolence, the drugs, the police
presence and all the crazymishaps going on in these other
communities.
But bear in mind, we were thetest subjects for this and if
there's a wider plan at playbesides black, white, low income
(14:05):
, upper income, this race, thatrace, it's a greater plan at
play.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
OK, so what's the root?
What's the root of this?
Like the root behind thedisplacement and the black
mechanism what the uh singlemost important reality is.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Um, for us to build and I know that's a common
terminology, but for us to buildwe have to have a foundation to
start on.
When we talk about social andcommunity development, that is,
a community which braced intoour family and our house, okay,
where do you stay at?
You know, uh, I stay on.
You know this block, that block, oh, okay, you right across
(14:54):
from me or my grandmother?
I know that whole place.
I know the park by there, Iknow the this and that, okay.
So when I create housinginstability for you, so when I
create housing instability foryou, create a normalcy around
that, you having a housinginstability, but your friends
(15:14):
and the community and the peoplethat you were relying on to
support you in that community,then the community is at a stage
of attack and decline.
You know it cannot be foundedwithout a foundation and so
without the community, we cannotmobilize, you know, first,
(15:35):
socially, just to get along.
Secondarily, we can't mobilizeany offense to that which is
coming in invading anddestabilizing the communities.
So that's one aspect.
Another aspect is I don'tbelong anywhere, I don't have a
(15:55):
home, so I don't mind shootingthe person next door to me or
having some type of deadlyaltercation with the people
across the street Because Idon't know you, I ain't from
here, my mama's not from here,she didn't grow up with your
mama.
And when I was young, I hadthose situations where the
(16:19):
people across the street theygrew up with my father, they
went to school with my father,just as I was going to school
with their kids, and ourgrandparents moved in the
neighborhood together or aroundthe same time and had been
friends.
So these are people that I'mstill cool with, the ones that
are alive to this day.
Okay, so when you remove thosefamily ties and those community
(16:44):
ties and that foundation tobuild on, you remove much more,
and that is, as I said, theability to create an offense and
a defense against the forcesthat are trying to destroy,
hinder and limit our involvementin the overall society all
society, yeah, Check All right.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
How do we find our people and direct them back to
balance?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Well, it's always going to be a physical place and
a coming together.
And the Internet is good and wereally have to take advantage
of it while we can where we cancome together.
And the internet is good, um,and we really have to take
advantage of it while we canwhere we could come together, uh
and speak, and that's why I wasso happy, you know and I thank
you in the uh onset about theability to come on and not talk
(17:38):
with a bunch of uh rhetoric.
It's just extensive and doesn'thave any productivity in it.
So we must use the internetwhile we can to meet, greet and
come together with those of uswho have something solid to talk
about, who are trying toformulate plans of action and
(18:01):
strengthen these communicationlines.
You know, a lot of times we'reonline, we see somebody that's
productive, we shout them out,we even have a little
conversation with them.
Oh man, they canceled my TikTokaccount.
I can't find such and suchagain.
You know, or such and suchdisappeared Times that we need
to be creating and networkingthe connections when we find
(18:26):
somebody that is actuallytalking with some sense and
clarity in a region.
You know New York need to bewanting to connect with Los
Angeles?
Who wants to connect with Vegas?
Who wants to connect withKansas City and Chicago and
Houston?
And not on some drill music orsome shoot them up stuff or some
puff puff pass, but on some.
How do we survive this nextround?
(18:48):
Where are y'all at?
Where are we at?
Okay, man, you need to travelover here.
Come, I got you.
You know what I'm saying.
These are the type ofrelationships that we need to
set up.
That will be the foundation ofthe future.
Because we lost the block.
You know, they gentrified it,they bought it out, they sold it
(19:11):
out.
You know I want to say, hey,man, we can come up on some
bread and hit them back anddestabilize and buy the block
back up on some Greek raw stuffor whatever the guy's name is.
But, um, how likely is that?
You know, in in the time frame,that we have meaning, you know,
(19:33):
if half your life is done, youknow, and I, I I'm, you know, an
optimist, so I, I plan, I wantto live to 100.
So half my life is over now, inthat 50 years, can I create
(19:56):
some plan where I amass enoughmoney to go buy these other
people out and move them out ofmy neighborhood and move, can
network and create relationshipswith people worldwide who can
come together and we can amassenough funds and formulate the
(20:17):
designs and plans for our futureoutside of these neighborhoods,
outside of these oldcommunities that we come from,
and create something new.
And I think that's what's inorder and something that we all
should be looking for, because,in reality, when I travel
through Kansas City and I stopand I look at the blocks or the
(20:40):
places and I, one second Irejoice oh man, this is where
such and such and we used to gohere and such and such used to
be over there and we'd go thereafter school and get burgers and
play video games, you know.
And then I remember, oh yeah,and then such and such got shot
over here, and then such andsuch got arrested over here and
this is where such and such OD'd, you know, and I had a fight
(21:07):
with this guy over here that I,you know that type of stuff.
So let's escape the trauma, youknow, on a larger scale, a
national and international scale.
Let's escape the trauma,rebuild, regroup and come back
at them and let them have that,you know.
Let them have that, you know.
Let them have that, because itwasn't anything other than our
(21:27):
trauma that built it, sustainedit and now locks us out so I
think if we come and we build,rebuild from a healthy
standpoint, um, and build itright, not from some forced move
of poverty or redlining or or,uh, you know, some of the other
destructive policies likelow-income project housing and
(21:48):
these type of things you know.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Science projects.
Yeah, let's have high-endhousing projects.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You know upward mobility housing projects, you
know housing developments withscattered sites and homes that
people can own and win out of inthe future.
So coming together, creatingrelationships and building new
(22:37):
communities, new places, becauseit wasn't the block, it was us,
it was our ideas, our dancing,our music, our thoughts, our
science, our math that made ithappen, not the numbers on the
block.
Go ahead, bro.
Sorry to speak so long, it'sokay um.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So what do you think about?
Um, now, I know you're talkingabout in america.
What are you thinking about?
Uh, like in the Caribbean andmaking connections in the
Caribbean and Africa?
You know, just spread out.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
So from here on over, OK, well, I think that the last
group of people on Earth thatneed to limit themselves to a
plot of land is us.
You know, and I think everybodyon the panel at some point in
(23:38):
time got some boxing skills andsome fighting skills.
Let's just keep it like thatflat out.
And so we knew, and we know,that a moving target is hard to
hit.
We know that if we want to bereal with ourselves, you know,
and this is hard, okay, butlet's be real with ourselves
(24:02):
this is a survival mode and movethat we've been put in.
And, with that being said, weare fighting and we need to have
different places, positions andother stances that we can take,
because if we just stand therestraight up in the ring flat
(24:24):
footed, eventually we getknocked out and we ain't gonna
wake up.
So we need to capitalize on ourability, because no one else
can do this, no one else can dothis all over the earth.
(24:47):
Establish relationships can dothis, and that is all over the
earth.
Establish communityrelationships and relationships
based on money, not based on,you know, some material item or
something, based on the fact ofwho we are.
You know, and I said that lastweek and I'll say it again we
(25:07):
are.
You know, and I said that lastweek and I'll say it again we
are respected and valuedglobally, and anyone that says
differently has not either beenthere or is lying.
Ok, we are respected globally.
Now let me say this you gotsome people that break code and
go over there, go to differentplaces.
(25:30):
Let's just use Africa as anexample.
You got people with horrorstories and I listen to them,
you know, and I just shake myhead and I want to reach out.
Hey, you did this wrong andit's like I don't get it, but
(25:50):
back in the day, and even tothis day, if you come to our
neighborhood incorrect, you getdealt with in a way that's not
favorable to you.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Real quick brother.
Your Wi-Fi is a little off.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Okay, is it Robot voice?
I apologize for that.
Let me see if I can kill someapps and make it a little bit
better.
All right, how's that?
Is it better now?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, as soon as whatever you started doing
started to fix it.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
OK, I just start killing apps.
Ok, but I was saying that ifyou were to come in our
neighborhoods incorrect, youknow, on whatever you was on,
you just want to hang out andparty.
You want to get something toparty with or someone to party
with, and you came in, correctyou're going to get dealt with
(26:53):
in a way that is not going to befavorable to that outcome.
Can we agree on that?
Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Yeah, exactly.
It's called act right, so right.
They took my money, they tookmy car.
I remember in the mac when dudesitting in the bathtub she ran
off with everything it happens.
Okay.
Now, listen, man, you gotsisters going over to africa,
(27:19):
like they on a girl's trip, okay, and they get over there and
the first thing that comes up isshe out of line, where's her
man?
Okay, you don't see them overhere without a man.
Basically, whether it's theirfather, their brother or their
(27:42):
man, okay, it's our women that'straveling without the chaperone
.
And I know we got the liberatedsister like, hey, I don't need
no man to go with me and I drivein my car, I fly it on a plane,
I got my own passport.
Yes, I understand, but do youunderstand that that's not the
culture over there?
(28:02):
Okay, that the women are notunattended over there, however
you look at that.
So you out of line as far astheir culture goes.
You know, you got men doing thesame thing.
So when you get over there andyou have a negative experience,
(28:23):
this is the reason why you comein incorrect.
So we've got to firstly learnfrom experience, or someone who
has experienced the culture ofwhere we're going and what are
we trying to do, you know, andwhen I take people over there, I
tell them like this we gotthree different main venues that
(28:43):
you're going to do Business,some type of spiritual
reconnection.
Some people want to go overthere and have the dude lie to
him in the tent with KuntaKinte's loincloth and pray on it
.
Some people want to do that andlisten to some bongos.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
All right, we call that the nigga safari.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Exactly, do that and listen to some bongos.
All right, we call that thenigga safari.
Exactly, some people want to goover there on Fantasy Island
Love Express.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Okay, a lot of people do yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I'm going to find, you know, mandingo.
Or I'm going to find, you know,the Black Panther woman, you
know, and you know.
It's a 50-50, if not less,ratio of success on that.
If you go over there onbusiness, though, everybody got
(29:41):
to respect you.
Everybody got to respect youbecause we're known here in
America as business people.
Okay, america is a commercecapital, so I'm not on some
tricked out stuff or somewhacked out weird stuff.
I'm over here on business.
Now, if those other thingsintersect with my journey,
(30:03):
there's a greater chance I willwill succeed at both of them,
but if I go over there on thewrong thing, in the wrong manner
, like I said, a favorableoutcome may not be attained.
Okay, can you give me examplesof that, because I myself I'm
(30:26):
thinking about taking a trip toghana next year okay, um,
firstly I'll say this ghana isthe un setup point for us to go
to, meaning Ghana is their trap.
(30:47):
Okay, and we are the trick.
All right, ghana is their trap.
There was a plan in the UnitedNations called the Wakanda
Villages Okay, and they were tobe scattered throughout Africa.
Ok, and they were to bescattered throughout Africa, but
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Ghana was the one of thepremier points of that and it
was made to attract us and toexploit us financially for a
spiritual fantasy of uscommuning in Africa.
So not saying you can't go toGhana and have a favorable
outcome, but saying that is thedesignated point for
exploitation, ok, so when I goto Ghana, what am I doing?
(31:39):
I'm bringing a lot of money,first off.
Secondly, I'm realizing thesepeople have been schooled
amongst each other that I am themark.
Okay, that I'm coming to breakbread and and, and you know
whatever angle they're going tocatch me, whether that's
spiritual, or I want to just seewhat's going on, or I'm looking
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for my next wife and they gotit she over there, all right,
you know her position, how toplay it.
But bottom line is this is anexploitation point.
It's just like if I go down tothe crack spot and I got my hand
in my pocket and I'm walkingaround with my eyes on books.
People like, oh OK, we've seenthis before.
(32:26):
You know what I'm saying.
There are other places andpoints throughout the continent
that are more humble andinviting and accepting of us,
where the exploitation is downand our ability to interact in a
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more positive way and get whatwe came for.
And that's the most importantpoint, it's not there, it's not
here, it's in here.
What are you going for?
You know what do you want toget out of this?
You can have it, but establishit.
Don't be random over here,random over there.
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Establish hey, man, I want, youknow, I'm looking for a wife,
or I want to start a business,or man, I just want a spot where
, if stuff get hot, I can tipand dip.
You know what I'm saying.
What do I want?
Let's get that established Now.
(33:31):
Let's establish who am Idealing with and can they get me
what I want, because I do notrecommend going by yourself and
just I'm going to feel myself,feel my way around, and
oftentimes we can do thatbecause we do that in our
day-to-day life.
But, like I said, this is a trapwhere somebody done set up.
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Ghana is an extreme version,but you got the same in Nigeria,
the same in Liberia, the samein Kenya.
They waiting, you know theywaiting.
So who are you dealing withbefore you go?
You know who are you dealingwith and what are their
capabilities.
(34:14):
You know, this is what I want.
Can you help me with that?
How are you going to help me?
Ok, once we have thatestablished, the trip is set.
What's the timeline?
A two-week trip is not atwo-month trip, okay.
So a two-week trip is hotels.
(34:36):
You know restaurants, this,this and that, and I'm dealing
with a small group of people.
A two-month trip, no, we're notin the hotel, no more, because
that hotel is going to getexpensive.
We're in a long-term housingsituation and I'm dealing with
people that are stable, that canconnect me with the resources
(34:59):
that I need to make me morestable while I'm there.
So you know planning anddealing with the people that are
reputable, to whatever extentthat means to your plan or
program, and being able to beprepared financially and
(35:22):
otherwise.
Ok, so that's you right therethat's key got you now.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Now going back to um, you know how do we find our
people and direct them to moreof a balance.
Uh, um, um.
Can you refer us to a book tostudy further into this, into?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
this subject as far as our current situation travel
to.
Okay, as far as our currentsituation, we have so many.
We have our brother, dr ClaudeAnderson.
He's one of my favorites and mygo-to call-outs and he has
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numerous works on the subjectand videos, and what he is
describing is the time framethat we're in now, when he is
saying, once it reaches thispoint, it's too far gone for us
to really, for us to really, uh,right back, and when we look at
(36:33):
all the, the key markers thathe said in his works, um, we
find that they've already lapsedand passed.
You know, so he was urging usduring the 80s and the early 90s
hey, if you all don't do this,this is going to be your reality
.
Okay, we've already surpassedit, we're there, and so, um, I
think just a refresher on hisworks and his videos and his
(36:57):
books, um, bring us to theconscious reality of where we
are now, as opposed to us beingin a fantasy of man.
We're going to go down and havea rally and put on some
t-shirts and man, you know, cookup some fish and some beans and
rice and come together.
You know, we're beyond thatpoint, okay, and what we need to
do is come up with a more uh,as he advocated for, uh, an
(37:22):
aggressive financial, uh, uh, uhand political campaign, and not
so much delving into theirpolitical agenda and arenas, but
creating our own.
Okay, what does that mean?
I mean that we're not sittingup here looking for the next
candidate and sitting him downand grilling him.
(37:43):
What are you going to do for us?
No, no, that's over, because wedon't have the financial
fortitude to motivate thatperson to do whatever he says
he's going to do.
So we need to come together andbuild that political
infrastructure within ourselvesthat says, hey, what does Black
(38:05):
survival look like in the next10 years, in the next 25 years,
in the next 50 years, regardlessof what Jose and them is doing
or Fufu and them is doing?
What are we doing to ensurethat we are here, our legacy is
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here and our children are safe,in their right frame of mind?
What are we doing?
Who is going to make that areality?
Who are the leaders of thefuture?
You know, and that takes alittle money.
It takes a lot of communitybuilding and nurturing, and we
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have to come together and makethat happen.
And, as crazy as it sounds, it'snot a simple American deal.
This is a global ideal that wehave to embrace, that we have to
embrace and I say that and atthe same time, autonomy and
(39:11):
identity, you know, but stillsaying we still have to embrace
globally our assets, ourresources, our people and allies
and create those inroads sothat we can have, you know,
finances coming in and assetsgoing in and coming out.
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There's not one nation on earththat does not interact with
Africa.
As I said before, he whocontrols Africa controls the
world.
Right now, we are in the midstof the third world war and we
are seeing the Caucasian, thewhite man, the European battling
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each other openly for who willcontrol Africa Now.
They may put another spin on itor say this or say that, but
when we see these three groupsof people openly in an armed
struggle for domination, restassured that the result for them
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is who will dominate andcontrol Africa Now?
With that being said, who hasmore right, or more obligation,
I would say, to create the roadsand the places of safety in
Africa, other than us?
(40:39):
Who should be more inclined?
The European, the white man, orthe Caucasian, or the Asian and
the Caucasian, however you wantto look at it, or us.
We should be the first ones,you know, with a diplomatic
envoy and proposal for solutionto these nations like Ghana.
(41:00):
Hey, hey, I know the UN got youon this, but we want this, you
know.
Hey, I understand that you allhave this.
We have that.
You know the people at the top,they know who we are, they
understand what we can do and,just as a reminder to us, they
took us from some people whowere in a backward civilization,
(41:23):
which was Europe, full ofdisease, fraud, prisons, insane
asylums, criminal institutions.
They came to America and, afterobtaining us and mobilizing us,
they became the most advancedcivilization on Earth.
Now, if it was them, if it waswhat they say it is, that they
are just supreme and they can doit and this and that, why
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wouldn't the people that theyare just supreme and they can do
it and this and that, whywouldn't the people that they
came from have done it beforethem?
Ok, so the reality is theycouldn't do it until we came.
Now everyone on Earth sees that.
No one else is under anyillusions about how it happened,
(42:06):
when it happened, how ittranspired and what.
You know.
This white man left that whiteman, or this European left that
one and became the white man.
And then he did that.
No, they simply had a placewhere they could have rampant,
outright unbridled slavery,manipulation, psychologically
and physically of a people, andthose people were us, and
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through that manipulation anddomination they became the
world's most advanced societyfor over 200 years.
All right, now everyone elsesees that and those at the top
that understand and know haveopen arms for us to come and do
the same thing for them.
(42:52):
My proposal is we come and dothe same thing for ourselves.
Okay, that is my proposal,right.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Hmm, all right.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
So you mentioned, you mentioned, uh, claude and Dr
Claude Anderson books and yousaid I mean it was, it was
basically made for what wealready went through, but you,
you said also, you said arefresher.
So what are some books that aremore like refreshers to deal
(43:26):
with today's downtime?
Speaker 3 (43:32):
For today I would say power nomics.
Okay, power nomics.
And we're always going to haveto.
When I say a refresher, we'regoing to have to go into these
works.
You know, even shake shake,anthony, or Jewel as they call
(43:53):
him in Senegal.
You know he gave us abiological and a genetic
foundation of who we are, and agenetic foundation of who we are
you know, just in his worksabout the.
You know just the traveling ofpeople throughout the continent
(44:14):
and how some of us wound up overhere.
But powernomics, I think,allows us to integrate the point
of capitalism with the digitaland information age and how that
can be used to leverage astronger position and place in
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today's society.
You know we have to leveragethese tools.
We look at the internet asbasically a television with a
keyboard as opposed to anengineering firm or a marketing
place.
We don't look at it like hey,that's tomorrow's Walmart,
(45:01):
amazon did and look whathappened, you know.
So what's really selling?
What are we selling?
What do we have to sell?
Um, it's always been ourpersonality, our story and our
entertainment, which we've donethrough song, uh, dance and and
and cultural expression inmovies, theater and play.
(45:23):
All right, but we're stillrelying on the oppositional
forces to promote that.
We should have been cometogether and created an internet
entity to sell our greatestasset, which is our ability to
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entertain and storytell.
You know, and a lot of times,you know, we look at 50 Cent and
his network, bet, you know, andsome of the other.
You know things that arepromoted to us as being for us,
but look at the negativity thatthey're promoting, right, you
(46:05):
know, and I remember in the 80s,when I was pursuing some of my
music ideas and I met with somepeople from Sony, a distribution
deal was on the table and oneof the guys, after the end of
(46:25):
the meeting, he said you know,you guys are the only people
that kill your target audience.
And it was like what do you mean, and he was just like you know,
as they're just listening tothe whole.
We're here, we made it typesituation.
You're the only people thatkill your target audience.
And he said listen man, thisyear touring the Eagles took in
(46:51):
the most money I was like theEagles he's like yeah, you know,
hotel California.
And I was like, oh yeah, yeah,yeah, that song's tight man, I
like that man.
Yeah, the bass line, oh man,he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that song's tight man, I likethat man.
Yeah, the bass line, oh man,he's like, yeah, they've been
singing that song since the 70s.
He said but can you imaginesome guy sitting up here talking
(47:12):
about you know, shoot this guy,sell some more drugs to him and
shoot up the community and dothis?
Can you imagine him 20 yearsfrom now singing that song?
And who's gonna be listening?
And then I sat there and Ithought about it and I was like,
yeah, you don't know, you don'tunderstand, you don't
understand our music and ourpeople.
(47:33):
Man, you're just.
But as I got older I realizedwhat he was actually saying.
You know, we're the ones thathave misused our media potential
or allowed it to be misdirected, uh, to this, this fallacy, uh,
that has us in a perpetualcycle of loss.
(47:54):
So it's upon us to reverse that, and we can do it.
We are the creators.
Ok, we're the ones that theentire world is listening to.
Ok, no matter how much theysuppress our voice, they hear it
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, they mimic it, they reiterateit, they replicate it, they
replicate it.
So it's just upon us to take astand and create the things that
are, uh, the next trend or thenext fad.
You know why are we on tiktok?
I love tiktok.
Tiktok is hostile to us, youknow.
(48:39):
You got people on tiktok.
Can't call us niggers and this,this and that, and if you write
one comment saying that you getan account, strike.
And it was like I was justsaying what they said in the
video, you know.
But you could promote it, butwhen it comes to actually
(49:01):
critiquing and interacting withthat promotion, dissecting it or
making or telling the truthabout it, now you are an enemy
to a content, guideline or sometype of morality that they want
to all of a sudden uphold.
Ok, we should have our own ownTikTok and it would be 10 times
(49:25):
better than theirs.
We should have our own YouTubeand it would be 10 times better
than theirs.
Why?
Because everybody would bethere trying to see what we are
doing.
Number two, we would not haveto be filtering through their
nonsense just to get to ours.
And number three, we couldmonetize it and have that, you
(49:48):
know.
So that's today's version of uh, the jay prince, uh, dr dre, uh
, jay-z, you know meeting orwhatever should night meeting to
create a distribution hub forour music and this, this and
that.
That's the new reality, and wehave a better chance of getting
it off now than we ever had then, because it's not some you know
(50:11):
public icon, you know somegangster dude that we got to
look up to, that's going to bighomie us down, some favor and
let us in.
It's us coming together andsaying let's put this together,
man, okay, we could talk, wecould sing, we can have news, we
can have music, we can have, uh, theater and poetry and and
(50:32):
movies.
We can do that.
Why are we not?
So that's the future and Ithink that's our power right now
.
And another thing is we don'thave to stay in the same
position.
You know we became verypowerful in rap.
No one can deny that rap musichas taken over the entire world.
(50:56):
So far as the sound of music,ok, from the day and time time
when we would turn it on, they'dhate on us.
I don't know if you everremember, but I remember people
shutting my radio off or turningit up louder or saying turn
that monkey music off or wedon't want to hear that.
That's not even music, it'sjust a beat and somebody's
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talking nonsense.
I remember those days.
Now you turn on Fox News, it'sa hip hop.
Beat you know, the Pope damnnear break dancing to it, you
know.
So what happened was we gotcomfortable and we didn't
continue to elevate and grow.
You know, what saved us afterrock and roll, after we created
(51:43):
rock and roll and they took itover, was the fact that we could
take bits and pieces of themusicianship and put it into
other genres like jazz, r&b andsmooth easy listening and
acoustic and this and that, andyou know it dispersed our
talents, our heads, our leaders,our Curtis Mayfields, our
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Marvin Gays.
It dispersed them, those thatcouldn't.
They lost their mind and wentcrazy on the blow and other
stuff and we lost them.
But our talent remains andmoves forward.
We are not some fixed entity.
We are expressing the creationthrough our art history entity.
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We are expressing the creationthrough our art history, and so
we cannot be limited to hip hopor a song or a dance.
We have to do the whole thingand accept and express the whole
thing for it to continue togrow and for us to continue to
be empowered by it.
And that goes back to what Iwas saying about the staying in
motion, because this is being awar, you know, and we have to
keep reiterating that and cometo that conclusion we are in a
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war.
Whenever you got a situation,with this many people losing
their lives, year after year,for this many years, it's on
purpose.
It's a war.
So we got to keep sticking, wegot to keep moving.
Those are our weapons our minds, our artistry, our ability to
(53:08):
create, our imagination, ourability to communicate.
No one can communicate with aworld like us, so we don't need
to shut ourself off from anybody.
We don't need to shut ourselfoff from anybody, um, and we
don't need to bar anybody fromcoming to us with their thoughts
feelings emotions and ideaseither.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
All right, I want to talk about uh, what, what uh?
Was it that inspired you tobuild Africa town?
What is Africa town?
Um, africa town was a uh you tobuild Africa Town.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
What is Africa Town?
Africa Town was a universalconcept, and what I mean by that
.
People adopted their owndefinition and meaning for it as
it applied to them andthemselves and their objectives.
I heard one man say hey, man,you got a china town, a japan
(54:08):
town, a german town, why can'twe have an africa town?
Right, okay, and from thatstandpoint, he said, that would
be our marketplace and ourcommunity gathering point for,
uh, uh, you know, justexpressing ourselves to the
other cultures and community andcreating equality amongst them,
since they have their own towns.
(54:29):
You know, and I listened tothat, I adopted it and I thought
well, you know, the differenceis Africa is not a country.
Okay, so, to sum it up, if wewere going to logically equate a
town to Chinatown or this, andthat we'd have to have Ghana
(54:52):
town, congo town, siberian townyou see what I'm saying?
We'd have to do it like that.
And how many of those do weneed?
I mean it would be.
I mean 52.
And after you did that, thenthey would say man, you know, we
got a village inside of thatand we want recognition too.
I mean it would just be endless.
(55:13):
So Africatown, to me, took on amore classical and purist
definition.
Classical and purest definitionmeaning that the original
people that were compiled andforced into this place were
Americans and people from WestAfrica who had to come together
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and share, share their knowledge, their story, their skills to
create methodologies forsurvival and expansion and
growth.
Some of the people fromAfricatown, the original one in
Alabama actually went back toAfrica.
We have been prompted andbrought up on roots.
(56:02):
Kuntukente came over here.
They whooped him, chopped hisfoot off.
He died over here.
His daughter got raped, beat,you know, just a continuous
story of tyranny and it justnever got any real success out
of it.
You know, I think Kizzy gotlike 80 years old and got to
(56:24):
spit in the white lady's cup orsomething you know.
Was that a win?
Was that our victory?
You know?
But I think they did notpromote the Africa town story
because number one is theoriginal pan African story, or
one is the original, uhpan-african story, or one of the
original pan-african stories,where someone is coming telling
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the story of africa, uh,surviving independently during
the the most racist times ofthis country and traveling back
to africa as three people, youknow, coming here, never being
slaves and leaving.
You know, at some point in time, some of them and maintaining
that connection and maintainingtheir language and their story
(57:11):
to an extent.
So if we could build on that towhere I get to be who I am I
don't have to change tosomething else.
Who I am, I don't have tochange to something else and I
still have the ability tointeract in a positive way and
travel back and forth and haveyou come and travel back and
forth and we can commune andcreate higher ideals for both of
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us.
I think that message in itself,right there, is the ultimate
success and key to our survivalat this point, you know, and if
we can embrace that concept ofAfrica town, of us having good,
positive relations with thebrothers and the sisters and the
(57:57):
land.
You know, one of theconversations that consistently
comes up is about reparations.
You know, um, and you got somepeople, uh, you know there's
many different uh viewpoints onon reparations, but one thing we
we frequently overlook is okay,yeah, this man owes some money
(58:21):
and some this or that forwhatever he's done, some
resources, whatever.
However, you want to equatethat this man owes something.
Okay, somebody over there owessomething.
You know and what I mean bythat man if you got drug off
your land and put on a boat andsent somewhere, if that's a, or
(58:42):
if your people were holding landand they were brought over here
and that land was then turnedover this, this, and that
somebody owes something overthere.
If it's not just theconversation and the ability to
regain your footing on thatplace, all right, and I think a
lot of times we overlook that.
(59:03):
You know, and it's not a victimthing where you know we can't
move forward unless we get thisor that.
No, but we have the abilityright now to establish those
relationships, to communicateour thoughts, and the world is
receptive to it.
You know the African Union isreceptive right now.
(59:23):
Who's leading the conversation?
You know I was on TikTok.
I heard people on there.
They was going off man.
You know the AU doneestablished a six region
diaspora trying to take ourreparation money, you know, and
I was like no, wait a minute.
We started that, our peoplestarted that so that we as a
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group could have a seat at thetable at the United Nations when
they are creating resolutionsfor who is owed what and what
happened to who and this, thatand the other.
That was our place, where wecould sit at the table and voice
our concern.
It had to be expanded to thewhole diaspora because you had
the Caribbean, south America andother places where similar
(01:00:14):
situations had occurred.
But we were the driving forcefor that, not the AU.
They rejected us.
No one ever wanted to accept usas Africans or people that were
old or victimized by the humantrafficking transatlantic
operation.
No one wanted to acknowledge usnot the white man, because he
(01:00:36):
knew he old, and definitely notthe African because they knew
they old and they wanted toshift the conversation strictly
to themselves.
And when we try to put our footin the door, no, so it took
years of people advocating for asixth region which encompasses
us and others, but we were theones leading that conversation
(01:00:59):
and we need to be leading thatconversation now, us leading
that conversation, and we needto be leading that conversation
now.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Okay, Now, um, um.
Before we go, I want to askthis question how can people
contribute to your organizationand its objectives.
Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Well, I will say this Um, the number one thing that
we're fighting here in theUnited States of America, number
one thing that we're fightinghere in the United States of
America is housing instability.
All right, I could go into somany other things Health care,
the prison population, youngboys got switches, blah, blah
you know but at the root of allof that, we have housing
(01:01:40):
instability in the midst of ahousing crisis.
So the housing crisis isaffecting everybody, from the
billionaires on down, andhousing instability is not
affecting everybody but isprimarily playing out on us.
So right now, we represent 77percent of the homelessness
(01:02:03):
applications in America.
We're the ones going to theagencies, the facilities, the
shelters, everywhere else,saying, hey, I'm not going to be
able to sleep tonight.
Me and my kids are in the car.
We was over at my mama's housebut she died, and now they
(01:02:24):
evicting us.
They bought our house, okay,and are repurposing it for
multi-person dwellings.
These things are affecting us.
So I think, when we look atthat, I think when we look at
that in its totality, if onewere inclined to want to help,
(01:02:48):
we need to get together firstand talk about the solutions,
which we have some workingsolutions.
I've iterated some problems butwe have working solutions to
those problems and we have whatwe call the centralized
diversion fund that we operatehere in Seattle.
It was a pilot program.
It's been adopted by severalother groups, but here in
(01:03:12):
Seattle we have the centralizeddiversion fund.
To date we've given out anupwards of $10 million to our
people for housing, job,training and to stabilize the
home lives of the people in thecommunity.
Here If one wanted to donate,they could go to the website and
(01:03:37):
donate, and that'sAfricatowninternationalorg
Africatown International anddonate and that's
AfricaTownInternationalorgAfricaTown International.
I remember Brother Fred I'llsay Father Fred Hampton when I'm
speaking about one of my iconsand people that I look up to.
You remember he had a video andthe brothers came to him and
(01:04:00):
said man, we want to start abank and we got some money and
this, this and that.
And Fred brothers came to himand said man, we want to start a
bank and we got some money andthis, this and that.
And Fred just looked at him andsaid wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
What about the educational program?
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Yeah, you don't have no educational program.
You got you know, what do youhave about a year before they
bust you?
Or the money is gone, orsomething crazy.
You know he was thinkingforward on it, forward on it,
and I think we need to think thesame so far as what is our
agenda for our, for the housingof our people?
You know, uh, what is thatagenda looking like?
(01:04:30):
Is it to consistently ask theman who's taking everything out
from under us consistently forhelp, or is it for us to come
together, mobilize, uh, ourfunding?
That's where power, powernomics come in and and create
the education that will give usthe ability to create, maintain
(01:04:52):
and sustain housing for thegenerations to come.
We have to do that and that's aconversation first.
So I would rather, man, if youwant to give me a thousand
dollars hey, like the dude said,I'm not turning down nothing,
you know, but I would ratherhave a conversation with real
estate developers, civilengineer trained people and
(01:05:17):
others families and say, hey,this is what we need.
You know, here's a plot of land, here's an area where we can
create sub developments andhousings that are favorable and
beneficial.
You know, these are theconversations that we need to
have before the money come,because what I've learned hey,
(01:05:37):
the money can come at any pointin time.
Money is out there, but what todo with it and how to do it and
when, and all of that is aneducational factor and we need
to strengthen that and also thecooperation, the cooperative
group that can carry out.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
You know, get us from point A to point B.
Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yes, Exactly and we have to understand all of these
problems have been solved beforeand the reason that we're not
dealing with solutions asopposed to problems at this
point in time is because someoneengineered that.
Okay, during the 60s, thecreation of Section 8 entailed
(01:06:24):
home ownership and housingstability, not in projects.
The projects were temporary uh,housing situations that were
supposed to get home ownershipand section that was supposed to
get you to home ownership andviable, strong communities.
What happened?
All right, so we have thesolution.
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
That's what the buyer said Something happened along
the way right.
Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Yeah, it happened.
It definitely did.
It definitely did With thepeople that can sit down and
logically put this step by steptogether in solution format and
hand off to another group ofpeople who can implement and
(01:07:12):
come back to that table and goforward with the next phase and
step of social and communitydevelopment, as opposed to
devolution, which is what wekeep seeing, you know, and it's
just, it's tragic and it's sadand we're going to lose some
more until we come to the tableand do what I'm saying, do you
(01:07:33):
know?
Until the hope and a future inus Okay, they don't see a future
in us.
They don't see a future in us.
They're out here going in anydirection, doing anything, and
it's backfiring on all of us.
(01:07:54):
We need to come to the table,like I said, meet and create the
unified front.
That's what I think the partialsolution is, but it involves us
.
It involves real conversationand real people who realize what
(01:08:15):
time?
is yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Now that's a supreme deal, family, because that's
been our conversation here onthe black roundtable and with
the black, with the series thatwe've been doing, the livable
black cities.
That's been the conversation.
So this is the grounding andthe founding and a practical
aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
So we definitely appreciate you coming with not
just ideas and theory but withthings that people can plug into
you know, and you know, pleasereach out to Brother Ron or you
Magnetic, and if they want to beconnected and I mean connected
in reality, to real solutions,let's get together, let's talk
(01:09:03):
and let's start implementing.
Because, look, there's aresidence in.
I know everybody heard ofMarriott's residence in.
You know, nationwide there areother housing projects and
things of that nature that arenationwide.
Okay, we can have a franchiseof livable housing that is
(01:09:27):
stable for families.
You know, nationwide we canhave that.
That's not something outrageous.
We see large corporations andBlackRock and the rest of them
doing it, you know, on the levelthat they want to do it on for
their people, their millionaireand billionaire class.
We see them.
(01:09:47):
You know they got places, man,where you go from LA to Las
Vegas and the room looks exactlythe same as the one you just
left, and you go from there tothe one in New York and the room
and the triage and the service,everything is the same.
You don't even feel like you'rein a different place till you
(01:10:10):
go outside the door.
You know they've got corporatehousing like that, you know.
So it's just a matter ofadapting models that are already
in place for people that uh uhneed it, as opposed to who can
afford it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Right, right, indeed.
On that note, thank you,brothers, for coming out this
evening.
I really appreciate you.
Uh, can't wait to have you backon.
I want to talk about some otherthings, um, as well, about, uh,
you know the relationships,relationships, marriage, and you
know decline of that.
I wanted to kind of pick yourbrain on that and what you think
(01:10:49):
about that at some point.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Thank you for everybody in thechat, the viewers, the viewers
later, the viewers next week,and we're out of here.
Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Peace peace, salam brother.
All right, what's going on?
Everybody, it's Ron Brown, lmt,the People's Fitness
Professional, reporting for duty.
Wait, is that how it goes?
Ron Brown, lmt.
People's Fitness Professional,aka Soul Brother number one,
(00:23):
reporting for duty.
All right, fitness professional, aka Soul Brother number one
reporting for duty.
On the check-in, we gotMagnetic in the building.
Malachi Kane in the building.
Peace, peace to everybody,whoever's in the chat, whoever's
going to come on to the chatlater on.
As you know, they probablyexpect it 7 pm and then we're
(00:44):
about 10 minutes off.
But it's all good, y'all catchyou later.
Thank you for coming out again,malachi Kane.
Thank you, magmatic forbringing us brother on today.
We're going to pretty much.
We're on TikTok.
I'm hitting TikTok up prettyhard, y'all.
Nyp Talk Show.
I posted Malachi Kane's video.
(01:08):
That's about 1527 on the views,People like that.
You got a great response aboutKansas City on that one.
Yeah, the Kansas City mob andthings like that.
You got some comments on that.
But let's go into the questionsyou know.
(01:30):
First off, like I said, thankyou for coming out.
How are you feeling today,brother?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Thank you for having me.
It's good to have a forum wherewe can come together without
any foolishness and really getdown to the straight talking
business that impacts andaffects us all and our future.
So thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
So now I want to go into.
We asked you what region andcity you're from last week and
the things that your city isbest known for and how much of
of your neighborhood remainstoday.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I want to talk about that um, the degradational
process of the drugs and theviolence, uh, the over policing,
um, and the influx of, I won'tsay necessarily, immigrants, but
but other populations coming inwith a separate agenda, have
(02:31):
pretty much, you know, reallydiluted and done away with the
place.
That I know, you know, as Ithink most of us can, can attest
to from our own various areas,most of us can, can attest to
from our, our own various areas,uh, so, uh, the area is, is, is
(02:52):
degraded.
There's some icons there thatwe all can call out to like
we're all chiefs, fans and we'reall this, and that you know the
super bowl guys and you knowwhere the barbecue people are
there, you know, but it's justit doesn't have the same soul
that it had before.
You know, and that what I meanby that, it was coming from the
(03:12):
people, by the people, for thepeople.
Now it's coming from the peoplefor the money.
And I don't know if that makessense, but that's a transition,
a translation of our culturefrom for us to benefit us to,
hey, man, whoever stepped to thething first, we're going to
(03:33):
serve them and you know, getthem out of here, and money is
green and we don't care aboutblack in between and all of that
.
So that's the kind of thesentiment that that I see you
know, not only there buteverywhere.
And you know, and I know it's alot of negative talk a lot of
times about our communities.
(03:53):
I just want to say and send ashout out to everybody that's
listening and that will listenwe held on where no one else
could.
We held on to these blocks,these schools, these
neighborhoods, even if it's justby the pinky toe that we
holding on and about to fallinto the pot, the melting pot or
(04:15):
whatever they want to call itthis year.
But we held on where otherswould not and could not, and
that's obvious.
You got people fleeing theirown country, where they speak
their own language, just to comehere because they fell off and
we have gone nowhere.
You know, our, our school mighthave went somewhere.
(04:35):
Our community center wentsomewhere.
Our favorite nightclub orhangout spot went somewhere.
The park went somewhere.
You know, even our house mighthave went somewhere.
The park went somewhere.
You know, even our house mighthave went somewhere.
But we stayed and we remain tocontinue to fight and try to
hold on to all we got.
And so somebody got to shoutthat out.
And so I just wanted to do that, man, for all of us in these
metropolitan areas that havebeen assaulted since the 80s up
(04:59):
until now, with everything fromdope to police, to our own
people, you know, gunning usdown in the most ruthless of
ways, to the racism, theinability to find housing, jobs,
all of that.
Somebody got to shout that out.
Brothers and sisters that haveheld on, I commend to us.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Definitely Salute, salute.
You know what I never thoughtof, that you gotta think of that
.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
I want you to think about it.
Yeah, I don't want you to thinkabout that.
Everything we're doing is afailure when no silver lining on
that dark cloud.
But that's not the reality.
We're still here.
We're still here, as we'restill here.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
As an actual fact.
So, you know, you basicallyspoke on, you know, the
immigration issue and we weretalking kind of talking about
that.
I think you were alluding tothat before we got on the
podcast.
We were talking about New York,you know as far as like.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Yeah, as far as like definitely yeah, as far as like
yeah, no, I was just saying man,I had, you know, I used to
frequently uh visit uh themosque in, uh, new york, you
know, um, and and uh, you know,uh, all the way over to long
island, bronx, everywhere, youknow.
(06:26):
And you know the whole vibe inthe 90s was different, um,
meaning, and again, there was aculture and a community that had
been set up for us, by us, youknow, and uh, one that we could
involve ourselves in with, youknow, no stipulations.
(06:48):
You know, come as you are, youknow, a welcoming, open arm
community, and you know you dideverything from shop, pray, eat,
sleep, and you was at home.
You was at home and it feltgood, you know.
And now that feeling is gone andthere's an urgency that has
(07:11):
been put on everybody in thesecommunities and that urgency is
one of we're on limited time,we're not wanted, not wanted.
There's a force pushing and wedon't feel strong enough to push
(07:31):
back with enough strength tomaintain our footing or our
position, and that's a feeling,that it's an insecurity that we
see now.
And you know, a lot of times wedon't look at it like this and
we've always been welcoming, ourcommunity has always been
welcoming, whether the peoplewere Jamaican or African or
(07:52):
Hispanic or whatever.
You know, and on our last talk Iwas calling out to movies that
were uh, mirrors or or uhcalling out to our culture.
Calling out to our culture, youknow, look at the movie
Breaking and B Street and Colorsand all these other movies, you
know, regardless if they werenegative or positive, you always
(08:12):
saw us in the mix, with amulti-ethnic facets and groups
of people coming together tocelebrate our culture and to
push it forward.
Okay, so that's always been ouridentity.
Okay, we were never uh, uhexclusive, you know of, of other
groups and people, but you know, as more and more came that
(08:36):
were exclusive of us.
You know, and we all hear thatstory about people getting on
the boat or the plane orwhatever to come here and
getting a pep talk about don'tmess with those
African-Americans and you stayaway from that community and
don't get caught up with thoseguys.
They'll put you in trouble andthis and this and that.
You know, and in doing the workthat I do, I have to testify
(08:59):
that that is an actual realitycoming from the State Department
of the United States of America.
It's not some fantasy orconspiracy or whatever.
That is a reality.
There are movies, there are PSAmovies in multiple languages,
detailing this to them how theywill lose their citizenship, and
(09:20):
this and that so you got thisgroup coming in with already a
negative aversion to mingling,communicating or working
together.
Okay, so we all seen the peoplethat had the, you know, the gas
face for us and we didn'treally trip on it because it was
(09:42):
always somebody else thatwanted to come to the hood and
hang out or come to the hood andcontribute, or come to the hood
and just watch.
You know what I'm saying.
So we never took much stake init.
But as time and the years andvolumes of people went by on top
of us, you know, it began totake an effect and now we're
(10:03):
starting to see that effect.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
And it's the time that we really need to speak up,
stand up and, you know, maybeeven act up.
Man, oh man.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Why you put that in my head, why you did that to me,
man, because what I'm talkingto, what I'm speaking to, um,
it's not hatred, it's notdislike, it's not anger, it's
none of that, it's survival,right, and somebody has trained
you myself and everybody else todownplay our own survival for
someone else's.
That is what is in style,that's what feels comfortable.
You know, anytime we go into aspace and we speak about our
(10:54):
survival, we automatically have,you know, pressure on us oh,
hold it down, wait a minute.
What are you saying?
You know, but when we speak toour survival and the fact that
we are, to an extent, endangeredyou know, when we speak to that
, and then the factors that arecreating that danger, then we're
(11:16):
saying something hostile orsomething unwanted, you know,
and that's where we get theflack and the pushback.
But the most important thing, Ithink, for everyone immigrant
otherwise, because at one pointin time you're going to realize
we are one people and us as betatest subjects and models for
(11:54):
the destruction of ethniccultures and civilizations
globally.
Okay, I'm going to repeatdestroy a people on us.
First they have tested that outon us, perfected it, and now
they are exporting that acrossthe board to any and all ethnic
(12:17):
groups and other people that arenon-Anglo, non-white and
non-supportive of the supremacydoctrine therein.
So when we look at that, youknow we grew up I don't know
about you, I grew up watching.
(12:39):
You know friends go to schooleating cereal with water.
You know we go to school.
Your parents go next door andget high.
You know people come up to theschool, have a shootout right
after the school ends.
We get on the bus and go homeand see the junkies everywhere,
get off the bus and go home andhave to fight and walk through.
(13:00):
You know all kinds of different.
You know situations and things,whether it was prostitutes
fighting or police arrestingsomeone, whatever it was just
negative imagery was constantlycompounded upon us.
So we took that as that was thehood, that was the ghetto, that
(13:20):
was just normal, ok.
So now what they have done iscreated that normal, that normal
thought process for everybody'schildren, ok, and it has just
as it destabilized us and gaveus a negative impression of our
own place where we lived, andour own people.
(13:41):
Now it's doing the same forothers.
We're starting to see gangviolence, the drugs, the police
presence and all the crazymishaps going on in these other
communities.
But bear in mind, we were thetest subjects for this and if
there's a wider plan at playbesides black, white, low income
(14:05):
, upper income, this race, thatrace, it's a greater plan at
play.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
OK, so what's the root?
What's the root of this?
Like the root behind thedisplacement and the black
mechanism what the uh singlemost important reality is.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Um, for us to build and I know that's a common
terminology, but for us to buildwe have to have a foundation to
start on.
When we talk about social andcommunity development, that is,
a community which braced intoour family and our house, okay,
where do you stay at?
You know, uh, I stay on.
You know this block, that block, oh, okay, you right across
(14:54):
from me or my grandmother?
I know that whole place.
I know the park by there, Iknow the this and that, okay.
So when I create housinginstability for you, so when I
create housing instability foryou, create a normalcy around
that, you having a housinginstability, but your friends
(15:14):
and the community and the peoplethat you were relying on to
support you in that community,then the community is at a stage
of attack and decline.
You know it cannot be foundedwithout a foundation and so
without the community, we cannotmobilize, you know, first,
(15:35):
socially, just to get along.
Secondarily, we can't mobilizeany offense to that which is
coming in invading anddestabilizing the communities.
So that's one aspect.
Another aspect is I don'tbelong anywhere, I don't have a
(15:55):
home, so I don't mind shootingthe person next door to me or
having some type of deadlyaltercation with the people
across the street Because Idon't know you, I ain't from
here, my mama's not from here,she didn't grow up with your
mama.
And when I was young, I hadthose situations where the
(16:19):
people across the street theygrew up with my father, they
went to school with my father,just as I was going to school
with their kids, and ourgrandparents moved in the
neighborhood together or aroundthe same time and had been
friends.
So these are people that I'mstill cool with, the ones that
are alive to this day.
Okay, so when you remove thosefamily ties and those community
(16:44):
ties and that foundation tobuild on, you remove much more,
and that is, as I said, theability to create an offense and
a defense against the forcesthat are trying to destroy,
hinder and limit our involvementin the overall society all
society, yeah, Check All right.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
How do we find our people and direct them back to
balance?
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Well, it's always going to be a physical place and
a coming together.
And the Internet is good and wereally have to take advantage
of it while we can where we cancome together.
And the internet is good, um,and we really have to take
advantage of it while we canwhere we could come together, uh
and speak, and that's why I wasso happy, you know and I thank
you in the uh onset about theability to come on and not talk
(17:38):
with a bunch of uh rhetoric.
It's just extensive and doesn'thave any productivity in it.
So we must use the internetwhile we can to meet, greet and
come together with those of uswho have something solid to talk
about, who are trying toformulate plans of action and
(18:01):
strengthen these communicationlines.
You know, a lot of times we'reonline, we see somebody that's
productive, we shout them out,we even have a little
conversation with them.
Oh man, they canceled my TikTokaccount.
I can't find such and suchagain.
You know, or such and suchdisappeared Times that we need
to be creating and networkingthe connections when we find
(18:26):
somebody that is actuallytalking with some sense and
clarity in a region.
You know New York need to bewanting to connect with Los
Angeles?
Who wants to connect with Vegas?
Who wants to connect withKansas City and Chicago and
Houston?
And not on some drill music orsome shoot them up stuff or some
puff puff pass, but on some.
How do we survive this nextround?
(18:48):
Where are y'all at?
Where are we at?
Okay, man, you need to travelover here.
Come, I got you.
You know what I'm saying.
These are the type ofrelationships that we need to
set up.
That will be the foundation ofthe future.
Because we lost the block.
You know, they gentrified it,they bought it out, they sold it
(19:11):
out.
You know I want to say, hey,man, we can come up on some
bread and hit them back anddestabilize and buy the block
back up on some Greek raw stuffor whatever the guy's name is.
But, um, how likely is that?
You know, in in the time frame,that we have meaning, you know,
(19:33):
if half your life is done, youknow, and I, I I'm, you know, an
optimist, so I, I plan, I wantto live to 100.
So half my life is over now, inthat 50 years, can I create
(19:56):
some plan where I amass enoughmoney to go buy these other
people out and move them out ofmy neighborhood and move, can
network and create relationshipswith people worldwide who can
come together and we can amassenough funds and formulate the
(20:17):
designs and plans for our futureoutside of these neighborhoods,
outside of these oldcommunities that we come from,
and create something new.
And I think that's what's inorder and something that we all
should be looking for, because,in reality, when I travel
through Kansas City and I stopand I look at the blocks or the
(20:40):
places and I, one second Irejoice oh man, this is where
such and such and we used to gohere and such and such used to
be over there and we'd go thereafter school and get burgers and
play video games, you know.
And then I remember, oh yeah,and then such and such got shot
over here, and then such andsuch got arrested over here and
this is where such and such OD'd, you know, and I had a fight
(21:07):
with this guy over here that I,you know that type of stuff.
So let's escape the trauma, youknow, on a larger scale, a
national and international scale.
Let's escape the trauma,rebuild, regroup and come back
at them and let them have that,you know.
Let them have that, you know.
Let them have that, because itwasn't anything other than our
(21:27):
trauma that built it, sustainedit and now locks us out so I
think if we come and we build,rebuild from a healthy
standpoint, um, and build itright, not from some forced move
of poverty or redlining or or,uh, you know, some of the other
destructive policies likelow-income project housing and
(21:48):
these type of things you know.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Science projects.
Yeah, let's have high-endhousing projects.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You know upward mobility housing projects, you
know housing developments withscattered sites and homes that
people can own and win out of inthe future.
So coming together, creatingrelationships and building new
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communities, new places, becauseit wasn't the block, it was us,
it was our ideas, our dancing,our music, our thoughts, our
science, our math that made ithappen, not the numbers on the
block.
Go ahead, bro.
Sorry to speak so long, it'sokay um.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
So what do you think about?
Um, now, I know you're talkingabout in america.
What are you thinking about?
Uh, like in the Caribbean andmaking connections in the
Caribbean and Africa?
You know, just spread out.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
So from here on over, OK, well, I think that the last
group of people on Earth thatneed to limit themselves to a
plot of land is us.
You know, and I think everybodyon the panel at some point in
(23:38):
time got some boxing skills andsome fighting skills.
Let's just keep it like thatflat out.
And so we knew, and we know,that a moving target is hard to
hit.
We know that if we want to bereal with ourselves, you know,
and this is hard, okay, butlet's be real with ourselves
(24:02):
this is a survival mode and movethat we've been put in.
And, with that being said, weare fighting and we need to have
different places, positions andother stances that we can take,
because if we just stand therestraight up in the ring flat
(24:24):
footed, eventually we getknocked out and we ain't gonna
wake up.
So we need to capitalize on ourability, because no one else
can do this, no one else can dothis all over the earth.
(24:47):
Establish relationships can dothis, and that is all over the
earth.
Establish communityrelationships and relationships
based on money, not based on,you know, some material item or
something, based on the fact ofwho we are.
You know, and I said that lastweek and I'll say it again we
(25:07):
are.
You know, and I said that lastweek and I'll say it again we
are respected and valuedglobally, and anyone that says
differently has not either beenthere or is lying.
Ok, we are respected globally.
Now let me say this you gotsome people that break code and
go over there, go to differentplaces.
(25:30):
Let's just use Africa as anexample.
You got people with horrorstories and I listen to them,
you know, and I just shake myhead and I want to reach out.
Hey, you did this wrong andit's like I don't get it, but
(25:50):
back in the day, and even tothis day, if you come to our
neighborhood incorrect, you getdealt with in a way that's not
favorable to you.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Real quick brother.
Your Wi-Fi is a little off.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Okay, is it Robot voice?
I apologize for that.
Let me see if I can kill someapps and make it a little bit
better.
All right, how's that?
Is it better now?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, as soon as whatever you started doing
started to fix it.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
OK, I just start killing apps.
Ok, but I was saying that ifyou were to come in our
neighborhoods incorrect, youknow, on whatever you was on,
you just want to hang out andparty.
You want to get something toparty with or someone to party
with, and you came in, correctyou're going to get dealt with
(26:53):
in a way that is not going to befavorable to that outcome.
Can we agree on that?
Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Yeah, exactly.
It's called act right, so right.
They took my money, they tookmy car.
I remember in the mac when dudesitting in the bathtub she ran
off with everything it happens.
Okay.
Now, listen, man, you gotsisters going over to africa,
(27:19):
like they on a girl's trip, okay, and they get over there and
the first thing that comes up isshe out of line, where's her
man?
Okay, you don't see them overhere without a man.
Basically, whether it's theirfather, their brother or their
(27:42):
man, okay, it's our women that'straveling without the chaperone
.
And I know we got the liberatedsister like, hey, I don't need
no man to go with me and I drivein my car, I fly it on a plane,
I got my own passport.
Yes, I understand, but do youunderstand that that's not the
culture over there?
(28:02):
Okay, that the women are notunattended over there, however
you look at that.
So you out of line as far astheir culture goes.
You know, you got men doing thesame thing.
So when you get over there andyou have a negative experience,
(28:23):
this is the reason why you comein incorrect.
So we've got to firstly learnfrom experience, or someone who
has experienced the culture ofwhere we're going and what are
we trying to do, you know, andwhen I take people over there, I
tell them like this we gotthree different main venues that
(28:43):
you're going to do Business,some type of spiritual
reconnection.
Some people want to go overthere and have the dude lie to
him in the tent with KuntaKinte's loincloth and pray on it
.
Some people want to do that andlisten to some bongos.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
All right, we call that the nigga safari.
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Exactly, do that and listen to some bongos.
All right, we call that thenigga safari.
Exactly, some people want to goover there on Fantasy Island
Love Express.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Okay, a lot of people do yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I'm going to find, you know, mandingo.
Or I'm going to find, you know,the Black Panther woman, you
know, and you know.
It's a 50-50, if not less,ratio of success on that.
If you go over there onbusiness, though, everybody got
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to respect you.
Everybody got to respect youbecause we're known here in
America as business people.
Okay, america is a commercecapital, so I'm not on some
tricked out stuff or somewhacked out weird stuff.
I'm over here on business.
Now, if those other thingsintersect with my journey,
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there's a greater chance I willwill succeed at both of them,
but if I go over there on thewrong thing, in the wrong manner
, like I said, a favorableoutcome may not be attained.
Okay, can you give me examplesof that, because I myself I'm
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thinking about taking a trip toghana next year okay, um,
firstly I'll say this ghana isthe un setup point for us to go
to, meaning Ghana is their trap.
(30:47):
Okay, and we are the trick.
All right, ghana is their trap.
There was a plan in the UnitedNations called the Wakanda
Villages Okay, and they were tobe scattered throughout Africa.
Ok, and they were to bescattered throughout Africa, but
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Ghana was the one of thepremier points of that and it
was made to attract us and toexploit us financially for a
spiritual fantasy of uscommuning in Africa.
So not saying you can't go toGhana and have a favorable
outcome, but saying that is thedesignated point for
exploitation, ok, so when I goto Ghana, what am I doing?
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I'm bringing a lot of money,first off.
Secondly, I'm realizing thesepeople have been schooled
amongst each other that I am themark.
Okay, that I'm coming to breakbread and and, and you know
whatever angle they're going tocatch me, whether that's
spiritual, or I want to just seewhat's going on, or I'm looking
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for my next wife and they gotit she over there, all right,
you know her position, how toplay it.
But bottom line is this is anexploitation point.
It's just like if I go down tothe crack spot and I got my hand
in my pocket and I'm walkingaround with my eyes on books.
People like, oh OK, we've seenthis before.
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You know what I'm saying.
There are other places andpoints throughout the continent
that are more humble andinviting and accepting of us,
where the exploitation is downand our ability to interact in a
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more positive way and get whatwe came for.
And that's the most importantpoint, it's not there, it's not
here, it's in here.
What are you going for?
You know what do you want toget out of this?
You can have it, but establishit.
Don't be random over here,random over there.
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Establish hey, man, I want, youknow, I'm looking for a wife,
or I want to start a business,or man, I just want a spot where
, if stuff get hot, I can tipand dip.
You know what I'm saying.
What do I want?
Let's get that established Now.
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Let's establish who am Idealing with and can they get me
what I want, because I do notrecommend going by yourself and
just I'm going to feel myself,feel my way around, and
oftentimes we can do thatbecause we do that in our
day-to-day life.
But, like I said, this is a trapwhere somebody done set up.
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Ghana is an extreme version,but you got the same in Nigeria,
the same in Liberia, the samein Kenya.
They waiting, you know theywaiting.
So who are you dealing withbefore you go?
You know who are you dealingwith and what are their
capabilities.
(34:14):
You know, this is what I want.
Can you help me with that?
How are you going to help me?
Ok, once we have thatestablished, the trip is set.
What's the timeline?
A two-week trip is not atwo-month trip, okay.
So a two-week trip is hotels.
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You know restaurants, this,this and that, and I'm dealing
with a small group of people.
A two-month trip, no, we're notin the hotel, no more, because
that hotel is going to getexpensive.
We're in a long-term housingsituation and I'm dealing with
people that are stable, that canconnect me with the resources
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that I need to make me morestable while I'm there.
So you know planning anddealing with the people that are
reputable, to whatever extentthat means to your plan or
program, and being able to beprepared financially and
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otherwise.
Ok, so that's you right therethat's key got you now.
Speaker 1 (35:30):
Now going back to um, you know how do we find our
people and direct them to moreof a balance.
Uh, um, um.
Can you refer us to a book tostudy further into this, into?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
this subject as far as our current situation travel
to.
Okay, as far as our currentsituation, we have so many.
We have our brother, dr ClaudeAnderson.
He's one of my favorites and mygo-to call-outs and he has
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numerous works on the subjectand videos, and what he is
describing is the time framethat we're in now, when he is
saying, once it reaches thispoint, it's too far gone for us
to really, for us to really, uh,right back, and when we look at
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all the, the key markers thathe said in his works, um, we
find that they've already lapsedand passed.
You know, so he was urging usduring the 80s and the early 90s
hey, if you all don't do this,this is going to be your reality
.
Okay, we've already surpassedit, we're there, and so, um, I
think just a refresher on hisworks and his videos and his
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books, um, bring us to theconscious reality of where we
are now, as opposed to us beingin a fantasy of man.
We're going to go down and havea rally and put on some
t-shirts and man, you know, cookup some fish and some beans and
rice and come together.
You know, we're beyond thatpoint, okay, and what we need to
do is come up with a more uh,as he advocated for, uh, an
(37:22):
aggressive financial, uh, uh, uhand political campaign, and not
so much delving into theirpolitical agenda and arenas, but
creating our own.
Okay, what does that mean?
I mean that we're not sittingup here looking for the next
candidate and sitting him downand grilling him.
(37:43):
What are you going to do for us?
No, no, that's over, because wedon't have the financial
fortitude to motivate thatperson to do whatever he says
he's going to do.
So we need to come together andbuild that political
infrastructure within ourselvesthat says, hey, what does Black
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survival look like in the next10 years, in the next 25 years,
in the next 50 years, regardlessof what Jose and them is doing
or Fufu and them is doing?
What are we doing to ensurethat we are here, our legacy is
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here and our children are safe,in their right frame of mind?
What are we doing?
Who is going to make that areality?
Who are the leaders of thefuture?
You know, and that takes alittle money.
It takes a lot of communitybuilding and nurturing, and we
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have to come together and makethat happen.
And, as crazy as it sounds, it'snot a simple American deal.
This is a global ideal that wehave to embrace, that we have to
embrace and I say that and atthe same time, autonomy and
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identity, you know, but stillsaying we still have to embrace
globally our assets, ourresources, our people and allies
and create those inroads sothat we can have, you know,
finances coming in and assetsgoing in and coming out.
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There's not one nation on earththat does not interact with
Africa.
As I said before, he whocontrols Africa controls the
world.
Right now, we are in the midstof the third world war and we
are seeing the Caucasian, thewhite man, the European battling
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each other openly for who willcontrol Africa Now.
They may put another spin on itor say this or say that, but
when we see these three groupsof people openly in an armed
struggle for domination, restassured that the result for them
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is who will dominate andcontrol Africa Now?
With that being said, who hasmore right, or more obligation,
I would say, to create the roadsand the places of safety in
Africa, other than us?
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Who should be more inclined?
The European, the white man, orthe Caucasian, or the Asian and
the Caucasian, however you wantto look at it, or us.
We should be the first ones,you know, with a diplomatic
envoy and proposal for solutionto these nations like Ghana.
(41:00):
Hey, hey, I know the UN got youon this, but we want this, you
know.
Hey, I understand that you allhave this.
We have that.
You know the people at the top,they know who we are, they
understand what we can do and,just as a reminder to us, they
took us from some people whowere in a backward civilization,
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which was Europe, full ofdisease, fraud, prisons, insane
asylums, criminal institutions.
They came to America and, afterobtaining us and mobilizing us,
they became the most advancedcivilization on Earth.
Now, if it was them, if it waswhat they say it is, that they
are just supreme and they can doit and this and that, why
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wouldn't the people that theyare just supreme and they can do
it and this and that, whywouldn't the people that they
came from have done it beforethem?
Ok, so the reality is theycouldn't do it until we came.
Now everyone on Earth sees that.
No one else is under anyillusions about how it happened,
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when it happened, how ittranspired and what.
You know.
This white man left that whiteman, or this European left that
one and became the white man.
And then he did that.
No, they simply had a placewhere they could have rampant,
outright unbridled slavery,manipulation, psychologically
and physically of a people, andthose people were us, and
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through that manipulation anddomination they became the
world's most advanced societyfor over 200 years.
All right, now everyone elsesees that and those at the top
that understand and know haveopen arms for us to come and do
the same thing for them.
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My proposal is we come and dothe same thing for ourselves.
Okay, that is my proposal,right.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
Hmm, all right.
Speaker 1 (43:06):
So you mentioned, you mentioned, uh, claude and Dr
Claude Anderson books and yousaid I mean it was, it was
basically made for what wealready went through, but you,
you said also, you said arefresher.
So what are some books that aremore like refreshers to deal
(43:26):
with today's downtime?
Speaker 3 (43:32):
For today I would say power nomics.
Okay, power nomics.
And we're always going to haveto.
When I say a refresher, we'regoing to have to go into these
works.
You know, even shake shake,anthony, or Jewel as they call
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him in Senegal.
You know he gave us abiological and a genetic
foundation of who we are, and agenetic foundation of who we are
you know, just in his worksabout the.
You know just the traveling ofpeople throughout the continent
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and how some of us wound up overhere.
But powernomics, I think,allows us to integrate the point
of capitalism with the digitaland information age and how that
can be used to leverage astronger position and place in
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today's society.
You know we have to leveragethese tools.
We look at the internet asbasically a television with a
keyboard as opposed to anengineering firm or a marketing
place.
We don't look at it like hey,that's tomorrow's Walmart,
(45:01):
amazon did and look whathappened, you know.
So what's really selling?
What are we selling?
What do we have to sell?
Um, it's always been ourpersonality, our story and our
entertainment, which we've donethrough song, uh, dance and and
and cultural expression inmovies, theater and play.
(45:23):
All right, but we're stillrelying on the oppositional
forces to promote that.
We should have been cometogether and created an internet
entity to sell our greatestasset, which is our ability to
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entertain and storytell.
You know, and a lot of times,you know, we look at 50 Cent and
his network, bet, you know, andsome of the other.
You know things that arepromoted to us as being for us,
but look at the negativity thatthey're promoting, right, you
(46:05):
know, and I remember in the 80s,when I was pursuing some of my
music ideas and I met with somepeople from Sony, a distribution
deal was on the table and oneof the guys, after the end of
(46:25):
the meeting, he said you know,you guys are the only people
that kill your target audience.
And it was like what do you mean, and he was just like you know,
as they're just listening tothe whole.
We're here, we made it typesituation.
You're the only people thatkill your target audience.
And he said listen man, thisyear touring the Eagles took in
(46:51):
the most money I was like theEagles he's like yeah, you know,
hotel California.
And I was like, oh yeah, yeah,yeah, that song's tight man, I
like that man.
Yeah, the bass line, oh man,he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that song's tight man, I likethat man.
Yeah, the bass line, oh man,he's like, yeah, they've been
singing that song since the 70s.
He said but can you imaginesome guy sitting up here talking
(47:12):
about you know, shoot this guy,sell some more drugs to him and
shoot up the community and dothis?
Can you imagine him 20 yearsfrom now singing that song?
And who's gonna be listening?
And then I sat there and Ithought about it and I was like,
yeah, you don't know, you don'tunderstand, you don't
understand our music and ourpeople.
(47:33):
Man, you're just.
But as I got older I realizedwhat he was actually saying.
You know, we're the ones thathave misused our media potential
or allowed it to be misdirected, uh, to this, this fallacy, uh,
that has us in a perpetualcycle of loss.
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So it's upon us to reverse that, and we can do it.
We are the creators.
Ok, we're the ones that theentire world is listening to.
Ok, no matter how much theysuppress our voice, they hear it
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, they mimic it, they reiterateit, they replicate it, they
replicate it.
So it's just upon us to take astand and create the things that
are, uh, the next trend or thenext fad.
You know why are we on tiktok?
I love tiktok.
Tiktok is hostile to us, youknow.
(48:39):
You got people on tiktok.
Can't call us niggers and this,this and that, and if you write
one comment saying that you getan account, strike.
And it was like I was justsaying what they said in the
video, you know.
But you could promote it, butwhen it comes to actually
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critiquing and interacting withthat promotion, dissecting it or
making or telling the truthabout it, now you are an enemy
to a content, guideline or sometype of morality that they want
to all of a sudden uphold.
Ok, we should have our own ownTikTok and it would be 10 times
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better than theirs.
We should have our own YouTubeand it would be 10 times better
than theirs.
Why?
Because everybody would bethere trying to see what we are
doing.
Number two, we would not haveto be filtering through their
nonsense just to get to ours.
And number three, we couldmonetize it and have that, you
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know.
So that's today's version of uh, the jay prince, uh, dr dre, uh
, jay-z, you know meeting orwhatever should night meeting to
create a distribution hub forour music and this, this and
that.
That's the new reality, and wehave a better chance of getting
it off now than we ever had then, because it's not some you know
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public icon, you know somegangster dude that we got to
look up to, that's going to bighomie us down, some favor and
let us in.
It's us coming together andsaying let's put this together,
man, okay, we could talk, wecould sing, we can have news, we
can have music, we can have, uh, theater and poetry and and
(50:32):
movies.
We can do that.
Why are we not?
So that's the future and Ithink that's our power right now
.
And another thing is we don'thave to stay in the same
position.
You know we became verypowerful in rap.
No one can deny that rap musichas taken over the entire world.
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So far as the sound of music,ok, from the day and time time
when we would turn it on, they'dhate on us.
I don't know if you everremember, but I remember people
shutting my radio off or turningit up louder or saying turn
that monkey music off or wedon't want to hear that.
That's not even music, it'sjust a beat and somebody's
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talking nonsense.
I remember those days.
Now you turn on Fox News, it'sa hip hop.
Beat you know, the Pope damnnear break dancing to it, you
know.
So what happened was we gotcomfortable and we didn't
continue to elevate and grow.
You know, what saved us afterrock and roll, after we created
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rock and roll and they took itover, was the fact that we could
take bits and pieces of themusicianship and put it into
other genres like jazz, r&b andsmooth easy listening and
acoustic and this and that, andyou know it dispersed our
talents, our heads, our leaders,our Curtis Mayfields, our
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Marvin Gays.
It dispersed them, those thatcouldn't.
They lost their mind and wentcrazy on the blow and other
stuff and we lost them.
But our talent remains andmoves forward.
We are not some fixed entity.
We are expressing the creationthrough our art history entity.
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We are expressing the creationthrough our art history, and so
we cannot be limited to hip hopor a song or a dance.
We have to do the whole thingand accept and express the whole
thing for it to continue togrow and for us to continue to
be empowered by it.
And that goes back to what Iwas saying about the staying in
motion, because this is being awar, you know, and we have to
keep reiterating that and cometo that conclusion we are in a
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war.
Whenever you got a situation,with this many people losing
their lives, year after year,for this many years, it's on
purpose.
It's a war.
So we got to keep sticking, wegot to keep moving.
Those are our weapons our minds, our artistry, our ability to
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create, our imagination, ourability to communicate.
No one can communicate with aworld like us, so we don't need
to shut ourself off from anybody.
We don't need to shut ourselfoff from anybody, um, and we
don't need to bar anybody fromcoming to us with their thoughts
feelings emotions and ideaseither.
Speaker 1 (53:35):
All right, I want to talk about uh, what, what uh?
Was it that inspired you tobuild Africa town?
What is Africa town?
Um, africa town was a uh you tobuild Africa Town.
Speaker 3 (53:43):
What is Africa Town?
Africa Town was a universalconcept, and what I mean by that
.
People adopted their owndefinition and meaning for it as
it applied to them andthemselves and their objectives.
I heard one man say hey, man,you got a china town, a japan
(54:08):
town, a german town, why can'twe have an africa town?
Right, okay, and from thatstandpoint, he said, that would
be our marketplace and ourcommunity gathering point for,
uh, uh, you know, justexpressing ourselves to the
other cultures and community andcreating equality amongst them,
since they have their own towns.
(54:29):
You know, and I listened tothat, I adopted it and I thought
well, you know, the differenceis Africa is not a country.
Okay, so, to sum it up, if wewere going to logically equate a
town to Chinatown or this, andthat we'd have to have Ghana
(54:52):
town, congo town, siberian townyou see what I'm saying?
We'd have to do it like that.
And how many of those do weneed?
I mean it would be.
I mean 52.
And after you did that, thenthey would say man, you know, we
got a village inside of thatand we want recognition too.
I mean it would just be endless.
(55:13):
So Africatown, to me, took on amore classical and purist
definition.
Classical and purest definitionmeaning that the original
people that were compiled andforced into this place were
Americans and people from WestAfrica who had to come together
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and share, share their knowledge, their story, their skills to
create methodologies forsurvival and expansion and
growth.
Some of the people fromAfricatown, the original one in
Alabama actually went back toAfrica.
We have been prompted andbrought up on roots.
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Kuntukente came over here.
They whooped him, chopped hisfoot off.
He died over here.
His daughter got raped, beat,you know, just a continuous
story of tyranny and it justnever got any real success out
of it.
You know, I think Kizzy gotlike 80 years old and got to
(56:24):
spit in the white lady's cup orsomething you know.
Was that a win?
Was that our victory?
You know?
But I think they did notpromote the Africa town story
because number one is theoriginal pan African story, or
one is the original, uhpan-african story, or one of the
original pan-african stories,where someone is coming telling
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the story of africa, uh,surviving independently during
the the most racist times ofthis country and traveling back
to africa as three people, youknow, coming here, never being
slaves and leaving.
You know, at some point in time, some of them and maintaining
that connection and maintainingtheir language and their story
(57:11):
to an extent.
So if we could build on that towhere I get to be who I am I
don't have to change tosomething else.
Who I am, I don't have tochange to something else and I
still have the ability tointeract in a positive way and
travel back and forth and haveyou come and travel back and
forth and we can commune andcreate higher ideals for both of
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us.
I think that message in itself,right there, is the ultimate
success and key to our survivalat this point, you know, and if
we can embrace that concept ofAfrica town, of us having good,
positive relations with thebrothers and the sisters and the
(57:57):
land.
You know, one of theconversations that consistently
comes up is about reparations.
You know, um, and you got somepeople, uh, you know there's
many different uh viewpoints onon reparations, but one thing we
we frequently overlook is okay,yeah, this man owes some money
(58:21):
and some this or that forwhatever he's done, some
resources, whatever.
However, you want to equatethat this man owes something.
Okay, somebody over there owessomething.
You know and what I mean bythat man if you got drug off
your land and put on a boat andsent somewhere, if that's a, or
(58:42):
if your people were holding landand they were brought over here
and that land was then turnedover this, this, and that
somebody owes something overthere.
If it's not just theconversation and the ability to
regain your footing on thatplace, all right, and I think a
lot of times we overlook that.
(59:03):
You know, and it's not a victimthing where you know we can't
move forward unless we get thisor that.
No, but we have the abilityright now to establish those
relationships, to communicateour thoughts, and the world is
receptive to it.
You know the African Union isreceptive right now.
(59:23):
Who's leading the conversation?
You know I was on TikTok.
I heard people on there.
They was going off man.
You know the AU doneestablished a six region
diaspora trying to take ourreparation money, you know, and
I was like no, wait a minute.
We started that, our peoplestarted that so that we as a
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group could have a seat at thetable at the United Nations when
they are creating resolutionsfor who is owed what and what
happened to who and this, thatand the other.
That was our place, where wecould sit at the table and voice
our concern.
It had to be expanded to thewhole diaspora because you had
the Caribbean, south America andother places where similar
(01:00:14):
situations had occurred.
But we were the driving forcefor that, not the AU.
They rejected us.
No one ever wanted to accept usas Africans or people that were
old or victimized by the humantrafficking transatlantic
operation.
No one wanted to acknowledge usnot the white man, because he
(01:00:36):
knew he old, and definitely notthe African because they knew
they old and they wanted toshift the conversation strictly
to themselves.
And when we try to put our footin the door, no, so it took
years of people advocating for asixth region which encompasses
us and others, but we were theones leading that conversation
(01:00:59):
and we need to be leading thatconversation now, us leading
that conversation, and we needto be leading that conversation
now.
Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Okay, Now, um, um.
Before we go, I want to askthis question how can people
contribute to your organizationand its objectives.
Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Well, I will say this Um, the number one thing that
we're fighting here in theUnited States of America, number
one thing that we're fightinghere in the United States of
America is housing instability.
All right, I could go into somany other things Health care,
the prison population, youngboys got switches, blah, blah
you know but at the root of allof that, we have housing
(01:01:40):
instability in the midst of ahousing crisis.
So the housing crisis isaffecting everybody, from the
billionaires on down, andhousing instability is not
affecting everybody but isprimarily playing out on us.
So right now, we represent 77percent of the homelessness
(01:02:03):
applications in America.
We're the ones going to theagencies, the facilities, the
shelters, everywhere else,saying, hey, I'm not going to be
able to sleep tonight.
Me and my kids are in the car.
We was over at my mama's housebut she died, and now they
(01:02:24):
evicting us.
They bought our house, okay,and are repurposing it for
multi-person dwellings.
These things are affecting us.
So I think, when we look atthat, I think when we look at
that in its totality, if onewere inclined to want to help,
(01:02:48):
we need to get together firstand talk about the solutions,
which we have some workingsolutions.
I've iterated some problems butwe have working solutions to
those problems and we have whatwe call the centralized
diversion fund that we operatehere in Seattle.
It was a pilot program.
It's been adopted by severalother groups, but here in
(01:03:12):
Seattle we have the centralizeddiversion fund.
To date we've given out anupwards of $10 million to our
people for housing, job,training and to stabilize the
home lives of the people in thecommunity.
Here If one wanted to donate,they could go to the website and
(01:03:37):
donate, and that'sAfricatowninternationalorg
Africatown International anddonate and that's
AfricaTownInternationalorgAfricaTown International.
I remember Brother Fred I'llsay Father Fred Hampton when I'm
speaking about one of my iconsand people that I look up to.
You remember he had a video andthe brothers came to him and
(01:04:00):
said man, we want to start abank and we got some money and
this, this and that.
And Fred brothers came to himand said man, we want to start a
bank and we got some money andthis, this and that.
And Fred just looked at him andsaid wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
What about the educational program?
Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Yeah, you don't have no educational program.
You got you know, what do youhave about a year before they
bust you?
Or the money is gone, orsomething crazy.
You know he was thinkingforward on it, forward on it,
and I think we need to think thesame so far as what is our
agenda for our, for the housingof our people?
You know, uh, what is thatagenda looking like?
(01:04:30):
Is it to consistently ask theman who's taking everything out
from under us consistently forhelp, or is it for us to come
together, mobilize, uh, ourfunding?
That's where power, powernomics come in and and create
the education that will give usthe ability to create, maintain
(01:04:52):
and sustain housing for thegenerations to come.
We have to do that and that's aconversation first.
So I would rather, man, if youwant to give me a thousand
dollars hey, like the dude said,I'm not turning down nothing,
you know, but I would ratherhave a conversation with real
estate developers, civilengineer trained people and
(01:05:17):
others families and say, hey,this is what we need.
You know, here's a plot of land, here's an area where we can
create sub developments andhousings that are favorable and
beneficial.
You know, these are theconversations that we need to
have before the money come,because what I've learned hey,
(01:05:37):
the money can come at any pointin time.
Money is out there, but what todo with it and how to do it and
when, and all of that is aneducational factor and we need
to strengthen that and also thecooperation, the cooperative
group that can carry out.
Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
You know, get us from point A to point B.
Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
Yes, Exactly and we have to understand all of these
problems have been solved beforeand the reason that we're not
dealing with solutions asopposed to problems at this
point in time is because someoneengineered that.
Okay, during the 60s, thecreation of Section 8 entailed
(01:06:24):
home ownership and housingstability, not in projects.
The projects were temporary uh,housing situations that were
supposed to get home ownershipand section that was supposed to
get you to home ownership andviable, strong communities.
What happened?
All right, so we have thesolution.
Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
That's what the buyer said Something happened along
the way right.
Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
Yeah, it happened.
It definitely did.
It definitely did With thepeople that can sit down and
logically put this step by steptogether in solution format and
hand off to another group ofpeople who can implement and
(01:07:12):
come back to that table and goforward with the next phase and
step of social and communitydevelopment, as opposed to
devolution, which is what wekeep seeing, you know, and it's
just, it's tragic and it's sadand we're going to lose some
more until we come to the tableand do what I'm saying, do you
(01:07:33):
know?
Until the hope and a future inus Okay, they don't see a future
in us.
They don't see a future in us.
They're out here going in anydirection, doing anything, and
it's backfiring on all of us.
(01:07:54):
We need to come to the table,like I said, meet and create the
unified front.
That's what I think the partialsolution is, but it involves us
.
It involves real conversationand real people who realize what
(01:08:15):
time?
is yes, sir.
Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Now that's a supreme deal, family, because that's
been our conversation here onthe black roundtable and with
the black, with the series thatwe've been doing, the livable
black cities.
That's been the conversation.
So this is the grounding andthe founding and a practical
aspect of it.
Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
So we definitely appreciate you coming with not
just ideas and theory but withthings that people can plug into
you know, and you know, pleasereach out to Brother Ron or you
Magnetic, and if they want to beconnected and I mean connected
in reality, to real solutions,let's get together, let's talk
(01:09:03):
and let's start implementing.
Because, look, there's aresidence in.
I know everybody heard ofMarriott's residence in.
You know, nationwide there areother housing projects and
things of that nature that arenationwide.
Okay, we can have a franchiseof livable housing that is
(01:09:27):
stable for families.
You know, nationwide we canhave that.
That's not something outrageous.
We see large corporations andBlackRock and the rest of them
doing it, you know, on the levelthat they want to do it on for
their people, their millionaireand billionaire class.
We see them.
(01:09:47):
You know they got places, man,where you go from LA to Las
Vegas and the room looks exactlythe same as the one you just
left, and you go from there tothe one in New York and the room
and the triage and the service,everything is the same.
You don't even feel like you'rein a different place till you
(01:10:10):
go outside the door.
You know they've got corporatehousing like that, you know.
So it's just a matter ofadapting models that are already
in place for people that uh uhneed it, as opposed to who can
afford it.
Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Right, right, indeed.
On that note, thank you,brothers, for coming out this
evening.
I really appreciate you.
Uh, can't wait to have you backon.
I want to talk about some otherthings, um, as well, about, uh,
you know the relationships,relationships, marriage, and you
know decline of that.
I wanted to kind of pick yourbrain on that and what you think
(01:10:49):
about that at some point.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Thank you for everybody in thechat, the viewers, the viewers
later, the viewers next week,and we're out of here.
Speaker 3 (01:11:02):
Peace peace, salam brother.
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