July 9, 2025 • 56 mins
The deliberate erasure of Moorish identity from historical consciousness may be one of the most successful and far-reaching cultural manipulations in modern history. This eye-opening episode dives deep into compelling literary evidence showing how terms like "Moor," "Blackamoor," and "Black Moor" were commonly used throughout the 15th-18th centuries but systematically disappeared during the 1900s.
Ron Brown and guests meticulously trace the timeline of this linguistic and cultural suppression, revealing how it aligns perfectly with European colonial expansion and key political treaties. Beginning with the Treaty of Granada in 1491 and continuing through the Doctrine of Discovery (1493), the Peace of Westphalia (1648), and beyond, European powers crafted a sophisticated legal framework that effectively buried Moorish nationality while maintaining the appearance of legitimate governance.
The presentation explores fascinating historical documents including dictionaries, plays, and literature that demonstrate the common usage of "Moor" as an identifier of nationality rather than merely skin color. Shakespeare himself used these terms extensively, while historical dictionaries clearly defined "Morris" as "Blackamoor" and "Moor" as "Negro or Blackamoor." Even more telling is the historical distinction between "Black Moor" (darker complexion) and "Tawny Moor" (lighter brown complexion), showing how Moorish identity transcended simple color designations.
What makes this exploration particularly powerful is the examination of motives behind this erasure. Unlike indigenous Hawaiians who maintained knowledge of their sovereignty despite subjugation, descendants of Moors were systematically disconnected from knowledge of their heritage, redirecting generations of activism away from sovereignty reclamation. The hosts argue this
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
what's going on, everybody?
It's ron brown lmt, thepeople's fitness professional,
aka soul brother number one.
I'm gonna start using thatreporting for duty, reporting
for duty.
Thanks for everybody coming outthis evening.
I I really appreciate it.
Thank you to Abdullah, thankyou to Yashril and everybody on
the check-in, that one personviewing us now.
(00:32):
You know our people still thinkthey're black, so they're on CPT
time.
They don't come in until later.
Yo, little jokey joke.
Come on, man, come on, lightenup the mood a little bit.
So, peace, peace to everybodyon the check-in.
(00:54):
I really appreciate AbdullahYashril coming in on alternate
Wednesdays they're coming toDrop the Science about why
shouldn't we call ourselvesblack.
Now, um, I've been saying stuffon facebook more recent and, um
, um, I think we we spoke aboutthat a while back, I think, like
(01:17):
the last, the last podcast, andwe had, um, we had, uh, we had
a sort of kind of like a debatewith Magnetica Law.
I got both points clearly andnow we're going to go to part
two of why we shouldn't callourselves Black.
Let's just run it through,let's go straight to it.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So, part two why we shouldn't call ourselves black.
In this image we have an imageof a moor, the story of the
moors in Spain by Stanley LanePoole, with a new introduction
of John G Jackson.
Of John G Jackson, marvinGraham, blackmore's Tale.
(02:11):
And Fins, o mortal friend, yourtale of woe.
A goatish bully, a watery foe.
You saw my plight from depthsunseen.
My Blackmore's life, a tragicscene.
Co-black I am, with eyes thatbulge, a living jewel, a watery
(02:31):
foliage, my fins, a dance ofancient grace From the Tane
Dynasty, a watery space.
Once dragon eyes, they calledmy kind For orbs that peered
beyond their mind.
Now trapped in glass, a waterysail.
My spirit yearns a mournfulknell.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Now, what we're doing here, my brothers and sisters,
is that we're showing in theliterature, because we have more
literature to show in theliterature, because we have more
literature to show thepreponderance, use of Black
Amour in the literatureThroughout the 15th.
(03:20):
Between the 15th and 1800,black Amour was interchanged,
used synonymously with Negro andEthiopian.
You don't see that today.
You don't see that throughoutthe 1900s.
What is the motive behind thedisappearance of Black Amour?
(03:41):
More Black Amour and BlackAmour used synonymously with
Negro and Ethiopian in theliterature.
What's the motive behind thedisappearance?
Why not throughout the 1900s?
What happened?
So we first set the stage withour receipts, our finding of
(04:03):
facts, our evidence, shortstories, other literature,
bibles, dictionaries, claims,movies.
You got to show the facts, yougot to show the facts.
(04:23):
So I remember that the claim iskeep in mind, my brothers and
sisters, the claim is right nowis why the disappearance of
Moore, black Moore, black Moorefrom the literature?
Because you have those whomisunderstand the claim.
(04:46):
We're not Moores.
No, no, no.
We're not saying that.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We're not saying that.
What we're saying is why Moore,blackmore, blackmore is not in
the literature throughout the1900s, as it was, as you can see
(05:11):
, through research in during the15, 16, 17, and 1800s.
I'm going to make it clear now,because you're not going to
out-slick me, not going toout-slick me.
I'm going to make it clear nowbecause you're not going to
out-slick me, not going toout-slick me, we'll make it
clear.
We're not boys.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We're not saying that right now.
We're not saying that now.
We're talking about theliterature.
(05:34):
Now we're talking about theliterature.
We'll make it very clear onwhat we're saying.
We don't want people to run.
I'm grabbing those who try torun.
You ain't running.
You're not going to run.
All right, we're going to stickto the literature, the facts,
(05:56):
the motive behind it.
So I want y'all to think aboutthat while we're going through
it, and this also those who arewatching us.
You can use our presentationsto teach from.
Israel always shares the slideson his Facebook page and I
always share the mine.
You can use the literature toteach from.
(06:16):
All right, israel Did he whathappened?
He went off.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Same thing I tried to turn the camera off because
something was happening.
But yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
All right, I just wanted to set the.
You know, and that was goodthat how he went into it.
Then I just wanted to set theplatform Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Fall in the practice of a damn slave.
This is arts and sciences, buarts and sciences writing
program.
Fall in in the practice of adamn slave.
Racial ideology and Vellini andShakespeare's Othello ideology
in Vellani and Shakespeare'sOthello, mari Rooney.
Read the instructor'sintroduction.
(07:08):
Read the writer's comments andbio.
Download this essay.
In a chapter from his book, theMore in English Renaissance
Drama, jack D Amico asserts thatsome Renaissance era plays
encourage they're predominantlywhite and then it cuts off.
But basically making it standout about the book is a chapter
(07:32):
in a book.
The book is called the More inEnglish Renaissance Drama by
Jack D Emiko.
This is from Cal L Day OnFacebook Book by JA Rogers.
(07:52):
So the book is by JA Rogers.
This is a post by Cal L Day onFacebook.
The most ancient names ofso-called black people are
Nahasu or Nubian.
A Nubian equals Mar.
Ancient Egypt, ethiopian 1599.
(08:13):
Geneva Bible says Mor insteadof Ethiopian, also one of the
older names of the Africancontinent continent given by
Greeks.
Mor M-A-U-R or Mer.
M-r equals high priest of Anu.
Also means builder or lord ofthe land from ancient Egypt.
(08:36):
Let's look at Negro In thisetymological demonstration.
It relates back to the rivernigger, meaning people of the
great river, you mean Niger.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Would it be a G, a soft G or a hard G?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And it's pronounced Niger.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yes, niger, meaning people of the Great River.
It doesn't have anything to dowith their complexion or status,
so it was connecting them to ariver.
That was the name of a river,not the name of a people.
What do these all have incommon?
Land, which means nationality,honoring forefathers and mothers
(09:25):
.
Negro, black, colored, equal,stateless, so miscellaneous.
This is number 91 in the 100amazing facts about the Negro.
The most ancient names forso-called black people are
Nehessu, or Nubian, ethiopianand more from ancient Egypt, and
(09:51):
Negro or Negrita from WestAfrica.
All the above are nativeAfrican words.
Negro is probably the oldest,as the Negritos are the oldest
known branch of the human race.
Negro comes from the riverNiger.
Niger found its way into Latinand since the people from that
(10:12):
region were dark skin, niger,negra, negrum came to mean black
, negro, negrito.
Negrita means the people of thegreat river.
Black and colored like whiteare, on the other hand, european
words.
Ethiopian and more werepopularly used to describe the
(10:34):
so-called blacks until 1500.
Shakespeare uses Negro onlyonce, and uses it synonymously
with more, and uses itsynonymously with more.
Africa comes from the ancientEgyptian Afrika, or Kafrika, the
land of the Kaffir.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's interesting, being that America is supposedly
named after Ameriko.
What's his name, beskuchi?
Americo, americo.
What's his name?
Americo.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Vespucci, vespucci, vespucci.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Vespucci, however you say his last name.
Yeah, so, but JA Rogers issaying something different,
according to Cal L Day.
I just want to mention this aswell.
Remember, this is also apodcast, so, uh, even though
you're putting the images on thescreen, just keep in mind that
(11:26):
people are also listening onspotify and, uh, apple music.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Anyway, continue, indeed, all right but did you
want to go on it?
You ain't on this.
Uh, brother, I'm doing no it'sgood.
So who are the Moors?
Renee Bassett, phd, in herMoors literature books,
describes them this way theregion which extends from the
(11:52):
frontiers of Egypt to theAtlantic Ocean and from the
Mediterranean to the Niger wasin ancient times inhabited by a
people to whom we give thegeneral name of uh oh, general
name of Berbers.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
yeah, we'll say Berbers, and then it cuts off
right and keep in mind it'sMoorish literature, that's the
name.
Moorish literature, yeah, sothat's.
So.
We look again once again whenwe're looking at the predominant
use of Moor, black Moor andBlackamoor in the literature
(12:38):
short stories, poems, plays,bibles, dictionaries and other
forms of writings that waspredominant during the 15, 16,
17, and 1800s, even before the1500s, but then it started
(13:00):
waning during the 1900s where totoday, you don't see it at all,
like you don't hear people sayyeah, hey, black Moore.
In the movie the Black Knight,the Black Knight, martin
Lawrence five times, five or sixtimes, martin Lawrence is
(13:23):
referred to as Moore, I'll cutoff.
Referred to as Moore, I'll cutoff your tongue.
Moore and Martin Lawrencewalking away.
Man, he called me Moore onemore time.
I knocked the you-know-what outof him.
Yeah, see that Now.
Of course that went overeverybody's head because it's
entertainment, you know what Imean Went over people's heads
and I remember my aunt.
When it came out, my aunt wentto see the movie, my mother's
(13:49):
sister, she went to go see themovie and she recalled my
teaching her that we're Moorsand she says yeah, wayne, yeah
Wayne, yeah, I was thinkingabout you, he said, because now
she was probably the only one inthe movie theater that was
(14:10):
thinking this way because shehad something.
She had a reference point,conversations with me,
literature I've shown her, sothat stood out to her.
You know Martin Lawrence sayingthey say more five times to
Martin Lawrence.
That stood out to her and sherecounted that when she had you
know a couple of days later toher.
You know Martin Lawrence sayingthey say more five times to
Martin Lawrence.
That stood out to her and sherecounted that when she had.
You know a couple of days laterto me.
I'll continue.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Race and ethnic hub.
Load this up, let's see.
Race and ethnic hub.
Race and ethnic hub the moorsblack presence in the united
kingdom before and after thetutor period.
Carol brown leonardi.
(15:03):
Hello, I'm dr carol brown lei.
I'm a social anthropologist andI work in the Faculty of Arts
and Social Sciences, fass, asassociate lecturer and honorary
researcher at the OpenUniversity, and I'd like to
welcome you to my presentation,which is going to be about the
Moors Black presence in theUnited Kingdom before and during
(15:24):
the Tudor period.
So I'll make a start then.
So the Moors are northernAfricans and they have extensive
knowledge of ancient Egypt andNubia, which was fostered from
constant cultural exchangesbetween the Africans of the
Northwest and North Africa, andthey introduced science,
(15:45):
literature and other forms ofknowledge to Europe.
That lifted it out of the darkages when they conquered the
Iberian Peninsula in AD 711.
The Iberian Peninsula, thenknown as Al-Andalus territories,
thrived as a center of arts andculture.
(16:06):
It was esteemed for scientificadvancements and economic
prosperity.
The Moors existed and ruled inEurope for over 700 years and
resided in the Royal House ofEurope, where they collaborated
on many levels with each other,which included marriage.
There is very little discussionabout the presence of Black
(16:29):
people in Scotland, england,ireland, wales before 1500, and
this presentation aims to gainsome insights on some Black
individuals that lived andvisited England or the United
Kingdom before this period.
I thought we would think aboutthe story of Europa.
So the story of Europa is atthe heart of European identity
(16:50):
and culture.
Europa the young maiden was theobject of affection of the
Olympian god Zeus, who wasenamored by her beauty.
He devised a plan whichinvolved metamorphosing himself
into a beautiful bull.
The young maiden gatheringflowers is impressed by the
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bull's handsome flank and gentlenature.
She caresses the bull and getson his back.
Zeus takes the opportunity toabduct her and swim to the
island of Crete, where heimpregnates her.
Thus she becomes pregnant andgives birth to three children,
(17:39):
one of which is the king ofCrete.
Minos Negro.
Morris was synonymous with more, that's M-A-U-R-U-S.
Morris Was synonymous with moreNegro and Ethiops.
A-e-t-h-i-o-p-s.
(18:00):
A-e-t-h-i-o-p-s.
In John Eddick's A New EnglishLatin Dictionary 1783.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
1783.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
In A New Latin English Dictionary by William
Young 1810.
Morris is a.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Blackmoor, can I interject before you continue?
The first one you brothers werebreaking it down on how I
forgot those Europeans names, onhow they started to gradually
change things in the I guess itwould be the dictionary, right
(18:43):
was that the Geneva Bible?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
you talking about Geneva Bible, Yvonne?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
No no no.
You referring to?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Francois Bonheur.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And what year was that?
Do you remember?
Francois Bonheur was 1684.
So, if you follow the first one, going on into this one,
there's a timeline Indeed.
Yep, okay, check.
So I need to put those twovideos together in a like a file
(19:18):
, so to speak.
Yes, okay, I'm following.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Alright, yes, okay, I'm following.
Absolutely All right, yeah, soaccording to the Ainsworth's
Latin dictionary, morell'sabridgment by Alexander Jameson,
robert Ainsworth, 1828.
Morris means Blackmoor.
Okay, the English term morealso meant black in English
(19:51):
dictionaries and encyclopediaprior to the 20th century.
More meant Negro or Blackamorein a dictionary of the English
language, and that'sB-L-A-C-K-A-M-O-O-R.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Black Amor.
So let me say this again,because you got those who are
trying to run, those that aretrying to run and try to dismiss
our point we're making.
I'm not going to allow them todo that.
See, see, see.
It says there that more meansblack.
Well, that's not our claim,though.
That's not what we'representing.
(20:28):
That's not our claim.
That's not our claim, though.
That's not what we'representing.
That's not our claim.
That's not our claim.
More means black, more meansthis.
That's not what we'representing here.
What we're presenting here forthose who I'm not allowing
nobody to run what we'representing here is the
predominant use of more black,more.
(20:49):
What we're presenting here isthe predominant use of more
black, more black, more in theliterature during the 15, 16, 17
, 1800s and its disappearancethroughout the 1900s.
Not, it means this, no, we'retalking about it's actual use.
(21:15):
People writing Blackmore inliterature, blackmore,
blackamore.
You know, like we see here, wetalk about like you don't see
this today.
Do you see this today?
1950s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s,2000, 2010, you see literature
like this.
You see this in thedictionaries today.
(21:36):
Like this you have to liveliterature, bibles, short
stories, plays.
That's what we're talking about, when I'm not allowing no one
to run today?
Not running today, go aheadIsrael alright, what was that?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Go ahead, israel, all right.
Yeah, so the English term morealso meant is that what it was?
Yeah, the English term morealso meant black.
In English dictionaries andencyclopedia prior to the 20th
century, moore meant Negro orBlack Amor.
(22:09):
In a dictionary of the Englishlanguage 1768 by Samuel Samuel
Johnson, the Encyclopedia Londonin London in this London is
1817 by John Wilkes lists Mooreas follows Morris, and also I
(22:31):
did miss this at the top.
Further proof of the truedefinition of the Latin term
Morris can be found in earlyEnglish Latin dictionaries and
that's what we just went through.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Finding a fax evidence.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Okay, so, so, being that, you know, you took us from
, I believe, the 1500s, with thefirst one 15 or 1600s, yeah,
and it seems like they'regetting further and further and
further away from more and thengo into more Negro, black color.
(23:10):
So what would be the motive,over hundreds of years, to try
to rewrite history?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Good, great question.
All right Now, this is why youhave to.
This is why history is soimportant, because that gives
you the insight, the answer.
You start seeing the increasein European power.
All right, let's look at it.
So let's answer Ron's question.
(23:44):
In 1492, what happened?
The Treaty of Granada?
So that's a great question, ron.
1492.
What happened the Treaty ofGranada?
So that's a great question, ron.
The Treaty of Granada, november25th 1492.
What was that about?
That's the treaty with AbuMuhammad.
Abu Muhammad surrendered theMoorish territorial sovereignty
(24:10):
over Granada to Isabella, kingIsabella and Queen Isabella and
King Fernand.
But in that treaty, though theMoorish territorial sovereignty
surrendered, moorish protectionis still there in that treaty.
There's an extraterritorialstill there in that treaty.
(24:34):
There's an extraterritorialityclause in that treaty.
So that treaty protects Moore'spersonal rights in that treaty.
So let me continue, because it'sto answer your question.
So what was happening after thetreaty?
You had Philip II.
(24:54):
Philip II, who is the son ofPhilip I.
Philip I is the son of KingFernand and Queen Isabella.
Oh, no, sorry, charles I,charles I is the son of Queen
(25:15):
Isabella and King Fernand.
Philip II is the grandson ofKing Fernand and Queen Isabella.
Philip II is the great-grandson, so the great-grandson Philip
II, he manipulated, dideverything he could to try to
remove the Moorish treatyprotection.
This is where the Moors wereclassified as Spanish.
(25:38):
There you go.
So this is the subjugation, ron.
That's the subjugation.
So great question, ron.
So what Ron is observing is asystematic dumbed down or the
subjugation and burial of theMoorish nationality, even in the
(26:03):
literature.
Great observation, ron.
Thank you Great observation,Ron.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Thank you so after.
But what would be the motive Todumb down, To dumb it down?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Subjugation, because if they Look at today, the
people don't know who they are.
So if we don't know who we are.
So, therefore, the Treaty ofGranada Doesn't protect us now,
right.
It doesn't protect us now,right.
It doesn't say Spanish, it saysmore.
It doesn't say Black, itdoesn't say Negro, it's more.
(26:38):
So you're systematicallyremoving the more sovereignty,
the more treaty protection,removing the more from the
family of nations.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, now, what I'm trying to figure out is okay.
So the motive is subjugation.
Okay, so why do they want tokeep the Moors, us, subjugated?
As the prophet said Moors, youare rich.
Right, you are plainly rich.
(27:13):
I think that's, that's how it,that's the quote, right?
So he's saying rich in whatsense?
Do we actually have um land?
Do we have an empire that ourancestors left behind?
And if we were to get withinthe rightful position under the
right names, would we beentitled for lack of a better
(27:39):
word to these riches, thisempire?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
All right.
So let's first address what theburial of our nationality does,
and now what it does.
It doesn't allow us mentally toreclaim, to even think about
reclaiming, to organize toreclaim, meaning that we're not
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in the same mindset?
That's a great question, greatquestion.
That we're not in the samemindset, that's a great question
, great question.
We're not in the same mindsetas the native people of Hawaii.
The native people of Hawaii,though they've been subjugated
by the United States since 1893,they have been fighting and
(28:27):
working for that long to recovertheir lost Hawaiian sovereignty
.
They never lost knowledge oftheir mother, of their Hawaiian
kingdom, of Hawaiian sovereignty.
They're absent of it.
They lost their Hawaiiansovereignty but never lost
knowledge of it.
So therefore, we have lostknowledge, we lost knowledge.
(28:48):
So therefore, there's no fight,there's no recover, there's no
efforts, there's no organization.
I mean that we have been activein civil rights.
We've been active in what Blackand black power?
We've been active there.
We've been active.
A lot of resources, a lot offinance, a lot, a lot of
activity, a lot of parades, alot of marches, a lot.
(29:09):
We keep on going.
It's a lot, but that what?
But we have not been active onthe large scale in the recovery
of our lost boy's sovereignty.
So what it does, ron?
Great question.
By not knowing who we are, itkeeps our resources misdirected
(29:31):
and not directed to the recoveryof our lost sovereignty efforts
.
Great question.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Right, I have more questions, but I want you all to
keep building.
Yeah, mm-hmm, right, I havemore questions, but I want you
to keep building.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, mm, hmm, all right, so we have here the flag
of Sardinia.
Many of antiquity havedocumented the appearance of the
Moors.
Sixth century corpus writer andpoet.
Corpus writer and poet uses thephrase phasis negroque colors,
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meaning faces or appearance ofblack color, to describe the
North African.
Thomas Iliot, bibliothecaIliote, london, tomei
Bertholetti, 1542 1542,ethiopian Laos.
Thou washest.
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Thou washest a morin, or more Aproverb.
(31:11):
Thou washest a mooring, or morea proverb applied to him that
praiseth a thing.
Thinkage that the blackness ofhis saying happened by the
negligence of his first master.
He ceased not to wash themooring continually with such
(31:33):
things as he thought would makehim white, by the witch labor
and washings.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
He so vexed the poor slave that he brought him into a
great sickness, his skinremaining still as black as it
was before now notice this thatblack was only used and in this
guy here, black was only used todescribe what Israel, his skin
(32:09):
more was used to identify Israel, his skin More was used is used
to identify.
Black is used here, but todescribe skin more is used to
identify 1542.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Indeed.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Just wanted to point that out.
Go ahead, Brock.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Misogynist Catherine Laurentius Barwee.
Barwee Barwee, 1577 CAC.
I am, by my country and birth,a true Egyptian.
I have seen the black moors andthe men of Sign.
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My father was also a naturalEthiopian.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I spell black moors For those who are watching.
Spell black moors.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I have seen the black moors Lowercase b l-a-c-k space
uppercase m-o-o-r-s.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
That's 1577.
All right, that's why we got topoint these out yep details
absolutely we have else elsedone.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Cole smith, american surnames 1986.
In shakespeare's time, theaudience at the globe accepted
the word as meaning a black man,and either then or later on it
became tautologically extendedinto blackamore.
It's b-l-a-c-k-a-m-o-o-r, nospaces, just one word.
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It's a compound word.
The common people of thecountry are not likely to have
known much about ultra-BritishMoors, not enough, at any rate,
to have made the word aneveryday term for a Black man.
Nor can the Moors of heraldrybe explained sufficiently by the
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theory that the founders offamilies bearing Moors as
supporters and Moors' heads ascrests had won their spurs in
assisting the spainers to expeltheir moors let's stop there,
israel.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Let's go back to that second paragraph and answer the
question now.
Now we, now we're looking atthe present time commences 1986.
This is 1986.
The common people of thecountry are not likely to have
known much about ultra BritishMoors, not enough, at any rate,
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to have made the world aneveryday turn for a black man.
What that was, what was thecase in the 1500s, 1600s, 1700s,
1800s.
This is what we're claiming,that's our claim.
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That's our claim.
Why not, why Arthur, why Arthur?
What's his name?
Why, why, why, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why, why,
why, why, why, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why, why,
why, why, why, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why, why,
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why, why, why, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why, why,
why, why, why, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why?
No, now you have a so-calledscholar I'm not going to call
them scholars so-called scholarwho would present this as a
claim and not do what we'redoing.
So their audience doesn't knowJack, their audience doesn't
know Jack.
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So this is how you shape.
So they're not going to present, so the audience doesn't know
that during the 15, 16, 17,1800s, that what was the case,
what was well known and used inliterature and in the general
public.
But if the audience doesn'tknow that, then the so-called
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scholar can play the audience.
The so-called scholar canpresent this, the so-called
scholar can present this.
So what we're doing is no, no,no, no.
It was well known, it waswidely used.
Why not today?
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Continue Israel.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I just want to emphasize certain points yeah,
I'm going to read this paragraphagain.
Nor can the Moors of Heldry beexplained sufficiently by the
theory that the founders offamilies bearing Moors are as
supporters and Moors heads ascrests had won their spurs in
assisting the Spaniards to expelthe Moors.
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The bearing is too common amongancient coats to admit of this
explanation, and the heraldicrepresentation of a Moor or
Negro man does not suggestGranada.
The features are ugly andirregular, and the hair, though,
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longer than that of a pureNegro, is woolly.
The head is encircled by afillet or chaplet and there are
pearls pendant from the ears.
The complexion is of courseblack.
The complexion is of courseblack.
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More dub du D-U-B-H is black,more Moro or moray.
In Highland tradition there aremany sea tinkers, such as the
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blacksmith of Dronthyn, and inthis Galloway district,
especially the legendaryBlackamore, black Moray or Black
Douglas is remembered in oneaccount as a sea rover and in
another one one and in anotheras one of a company of sea,
foreign moors or Saracensvarious historical names sacking
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churches and monasteries,killing and ravishing and at one
time actually conquering thegreater portion of the British
islands.
Apparently, then, thispatriarchal leader of the Tory
section of the Galloway Fallswas a genuine descendant of the
ancient Moors or Picts.
These are the ways of a 13thcentury horde of Tartars
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emerging from the Danish orKimbrick Peninsula.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Alright.
So I can understand why they'recalling us ugly.
I can understand.
So it's not.
You got to keep in mind, mybrothers and sisters, the
context.
Well, when you call somebodyugly and all that, if they're
capturing you, like, wouldn'tyou?
I mean, I can understand, I'mnot mad.
I'm not mad.
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If you know the history, youwouldn't be mad at this.
That's capturing you, holdingyou for ransom, like wouldn't
you call them ugly and all that.
I mean I would Like, wouldn'tyou call them ugly and all that.
I mean I would Like youwouldn't be, you know.
So you understand why theauthor is calling us ugly, not
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that we're ugly, he doesn't meanthat that's emotional, because
we're capturing them, holdingthem for high ransom.
So I understand that.
I'm just trying to be mybrothers and sisters.
We gotta be objective.
I'm just gonna be objective,I'm gonna provide objectivity
(40:17):
here.
He's a racist, no, he's notforget all.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,we're not going there.
We gotta analyze it in thehistorical context.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, we're not going there.
We got to analyze it in thehistorical context, go ahead
Israel.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I was going to pull it up, but I'll just read it.
The word ugly the etymology ofthe word ugly, adjective
mid-13th century ug-like,frightful or horrible in
appearance, from a Scandinaviansource such as Old Norse,
ugliger, dreadful, fearful, fromugler fear, apprehension, dread
(40:57):
, perhaps related to egg, a-g-g,strife, hate, plus ligger
L-I-G-R.
Like so yeah, they were dead.
So having fear, you know theywere fearful.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I can see the fearful , I can see that I'm at that.
For me, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
All right.
So up here these are thedifferent crests with the
Moorish heads.
Make it as wide as possible.
You can see the words are kindof faded.
A period says Morel, morel,morel, morel, morel More.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, you can see a more when they blow it up.
They blow it up on their phone,their device.
You can see it, you can seethem.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
I think it says Lubeck.
It looks like it says Lubeckunder there.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, so yeah, you see more.
You see more in it, thedifferent Latin and Dutch, and
absolutely it's in J Rogers'book, nature's no, the Cuddle
Line, chapter 6.
The Negro has more in Europeanaristocratic families he shows
off there's lots of coat of armsand there's thousands of them,
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coat of arms, family crests andso forth.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Code of Arms, Family Crest and so forth.
Moray in geography, a countryin Scotland.
Moray adjective Can't reallysee that Something to be from
Moro, a moor, Dark brown, darklyred.
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Moray from the adjective a darkbrown, More, A more a black, a
black, a more a Negro, anEthiopian Moors.
In the Middle Ages and the 17thcentury Moors were supposed to
be black and the supposed to beblack and the word was used as a
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generic name for all dark skinraces as equivalent to Negro or
Blackamore today.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
But why is that not today, though?
Why is it not used?
Why is it more today?
But why is that not today,though?
Why is it not used?
Why is it more today's 1950s,1940s, 1930s, 1970s, 1980s?
Speaker 1 (43:35):
1990s.
This is the.
This is the question that Iwould love to have you brothers
answer, because how did theymaintain that status quo to keep
the nationality of the Moors?
Look down?
Right, because people come andgo, because we all got to go,
right.
So how were they?
(43:56):
Was it something passed downthrough generations in some kind
of secret society to keep thisgoing?
How was this done?
Or was it done just through?
Um, uh, just over time, peopleforgot, or you know.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
All right, let me.
Let me answer that once again.
We talked, I saw we gave thetreaty of granada, we gave the
treaty of granada, we gave theTreaty of Granada, 1493.
And there's other politicalactivities that occurred after
that in Europe.
You have the expulsion of theMoors from England in 1610.
You have the IntercaterraDivina.
So after the Treaty of Granada.
So let's look at the timelineAfter the Treaty of Granada of
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14 of 14, 1991, thank you,november 25th 1491.
Thank you, israel.
The Intercatera Divina is 1493,that's.
Thank you, israel.
So for clarification, theTreaty of Granada is November
25th 1491 okay all right.
(45:06):
The Intercatera Divina, theDoctrine of Discovery.
The third one is November 25th,1491.
Okay, all right.
The Inter Catera Divina, theDoctrine of Discovery.
The third one is March 24th,march 6th, 1493.
Pope Alexander VI.
All right, so that's Now.
This just happened.
Their agenda is written out.
(45:28):
Their agenda is written out.
Their agenda is written out.
Their agenda is intercateradivina, doctrine of discovery.
It's written out.
They're organized, they'restructured.
You also.
You also have the, the, the,the.
What's the name?
(45:48):
Westphalia, the Treaty ofWestphalia, the Peace of
Westphalia, the Peace ofWestphalia of 1648.
That ended the 100-year war,and that is an agreement among
themselves.
That's also written out.
You also have the treaty, thetreaty of Utrecht, the treaty of
Utrecht of 1713, that ended thewar of Spanish succession.
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That's an agreement amongthemselves to not snatch land
from one another without atreaty.
They have agreements, they havewritten agreements.
This is the United Nations,this is the United Nations.
The United Nations Charter isnot the United Nations.
This is the United Nations.
The United Nations Charter isnot the United Nations.
Hear me out, my brothers andsisters.
The United Nations Charter isnot the United Nations.
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Their United Nations is theTreaty of Granada, 1491.
The Intercaterina Divina, 1440.
Dom Diversus IntercaterinaDivina.
1493.
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Peace of Westphalia, 1648.
The Treaty of Utrecht and twoother series, that's with that,
1713.
That's their United Nations.
What they did is incorporated,what I mentioned, into modern
international law.
That's their United Nations.
(47:17):
I'm answering your question,ron.
I'm being very detailed.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
You have to identify those instruments I got to give
you sources?
I'm answering your question,ron.
I'm being very detailed.
Okay, you have to identifythose instruments.
I got to give you sources.
I'm identifying those sources.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
That's what they operate on, whenever they draft
contracts or make treaties oranything, they're going to keep
those things in mind.
Right, and actually theCrusades was sparked, I guess.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
That too.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, that's 12, that's that's there you go, go
ahead, there you go.
Yeah, he rallied the uh,rallied the christian knights,
uh.
In claremont, france, in 1095.
He gave a speech rallying themto go, you know, go out, and uh,
basically, and also, whatevercrimes they had committed prior
to that, as long as they were inhonor of the Pope and
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conquering us you know more, orwhatnot, then that thing, you
know, that would get wiped offlike the record was clean.
That's how the Pope, that's howPope Urban II was promoting
that.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
This is important.
These receipts are veryimportant because this is their
conquesting foundation thatthey've maintained to this very
day.
Once again, they haveincorporated it within modern
international law.
It's important that we knowthis.
This is what I'm saying is veryimportant.
We cannot go half-cocked.
We must have this knowledge.
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This is major.
We can't assume one thing.
We have to know what they'reoperating on.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Continue Israel continue as well.
Oh yeah, I did miss this piecedown here, the word tawny, the
word tawny, tawny, t-a-u-n-e.
Tawny, t-a-u-n-e.
Tawny, t-a-w-n-y From TawnyT-A-U-N-E.
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Tawny.
Adjective A brownish orange tolight brown that is slightly
redder than sorrel.
Compared Tint T-E-N-N-E.
Number two A tawny coloredcloth or garment.
Number three Archaic A.
(49:52):
A brown skinned person.
B.
American Indian.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Alright, let me.
Let's use Terrence Howard.
We're gonna use Terrence Howardand Wesley Snipes.
So we're in the 1500s, we're inthe 1500s, we're in the 1500s.
Wesley Snipes during the 1500s,16, 17, 1800s, wesley Snipes
and Terrence Howard you alreadyknow what they look like.
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Terrence Howard would bereferred would have been
referred to as a tawny moor.
Wesley Snipes would be referredto as a black or moor or black
moor.
Today, wesley Snipes isreferred to as a dark-skinned
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black man.
Today, terrence Howard isreferred to as a light-skinned
black man.
Today, terrence Howard isreferred to as a light skin
black man, but not during the 15, 16, and 1700s.
Tony Moore and Blackmore Ha ha,ha, ha Ready.
(51:05):
All right and why not today?
Why isn't Terrence Howardreferred to as a Tony Moore
today?
We already know the answer.
Why isn't Wesley Snipesreferred to as a Blacker Moore
today?
Speaker 1 (51:20):
we know the answer this is, yeah, honestly, man,
you know not to be.
You know I I'm no person to getspooked out and scared of stuff
excuse my language, but this iskind of scary if you really
(51:41):
think about it.
Like the way they took thenationality away and what's been
happening behind closed doorsand how they have everybody like
this zombies.
It's kind of crazy, man, like,if you really think about this,
(52:01):
from like the way you broke itdown on the first one from the
timeline and how it kind of wentfrom more and slowly went to
black or more and then slowlywent to Negro and then then went
to black and thenAfrican-American, and then like
(52:22):
what's going on right now youknow what I'm saying?
Like it's like kind of spookyreally, you know.
And then you just broke downthe treaties and all the things
that went on behind closed well,not behind closed doors, this
is public information yeah, it'sprobably not behind closed
doors but the public, they don'tkeep up with this, you know so
you're spooking.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
The spookiness would be like uh, for instance, like
we're being buried alive, we canactually see you.
Can you're conscious of thatburial?
Speaker 1 (52:50):
right, exactly, exactly.
And then you're watching peoplefight you over the word black,
it's just.
And then you just you're givingthem the information, giving
them the information, and theydon't want to accept that.
There's something to this thatwe need to really look into.
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It's kind of scary.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
All right, he's going to move to the next one, All
right.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Leroy Malikin, malikin, diotre, les Marches de
Galon, galonet, dior, dior.
Yeah, I'm not going to be ableto get this.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
But the key is this Morin, that's the key.
Israel able to get this, butthe key is this Morin, that's
the key.
Israel is that.
Morin is the key.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Morin, right here yeah point that out.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
The other part, the other part the other part, the
other part, the other part, theother part, the other part.
Hey man, he did it.
Di Moreno Corrone Di Argent.
Hey man, he did it.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
I threw it, he did it .
Yeah, that tongue man, we gottaget our tongue in order.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
That's the what's it called the hypoglossal nerve,
the hypoglossal nerve man.
Hypoglossal nerve man.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
There we go.
Linguistics, linguistics, therewe go, see Terminology Very
important.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
But, mors, you know I don't mean to cut it short, but
you know we only have an hour.
Yep, we're good, we're going tocontinue this.
Part three and then part four.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yeah, we do a part three.
We definitely do a part two tothree finishes up Israel.
Yes yeah, this is good.
Yeah, cause this is, this is agood stuff, man.
Yeah yeah, we got it.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yes, and I and I think that maybe you know we can
talk about it, but I think youto need more time.
So thank you for coming outthis evening.
I really appreciate you.
And get that hypoglossal, howdo you say it again?
(55:15):
Hypoglossal nerve.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Get that hypoglossal nerve functioning.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
Y'all On that note.
Thank y'all for coming out.
Peace, everybody in the chat.
We're on another podcast inabout five minutes and we are
out of here.
Peace, oh, oh.
what's going on, everybody?
It's ron brown lmt, thepeople's fitness professional,
aka soul brother number one.
I'm gonna start using thatreporting for duty, reporting
for duty.
Thanks for everybody coming outthis evening.
I I really appreciate it.
Thank you to Abdullah, thankyou to Yashril and everybody on
the check-in, that one personviewing us now.
(00:32):
You know our people still thinkthey're black, so they're on CPT
time.
They don't come in until later.
Yo, little jokey joke.
Come on, man, come on, lightenup the mood a little bit.
So, peace, peace to everybodyon the check-in.
(00:54):
I really appreciate AbdullahYashril coming in on alternate
Wednesdays they're coming toDrop the Science about why
shouldn't we call ourselvesblack.
Now, um, I've been saying stuffon facebook more recent and, um
, um, I think we we spoke aboutthat a while back, I think, like
(01:17):
the last, the last podcast, andwe had, um, we had, uh, we had
a sort of kind of like a debatewith Magnetica Law.
I got both points clearly andnow we're going to go to part
two of why we shouldn't callourselves Black.
Let's just run it through,let's go straight to it.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So, part two why we shouldn't call ourselves black.
In this image we have an imageof a moor, the story of the
moors in Spain by Stanley LanePoole, with a new introduction
of John G Jackson.
Of John G Jackson, marvinGraham, blackmore's Tale.
(02:11):
And Fins, o mortal friend, yourtale of woe.
A goatish bully, a watery foe.
You saw my plight from depthsunseen.
My Blackmore's life, a tragicscene.
Co-black I am, with eyes thatbulge, a living jewel, a watery
(02:31):
foliage, my fins, a dance ofancient grace From the Tane
Dynasty, a watery space.
Once dragon eyes, they calledmy kind For orbs that peered
beyond their mind.
Now trapped in glass, a waterysail.
My spirit yearns a mournfulknell.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Now, what we're doing here, my brothers and sisters,
is that we're showing in theliterature, because we have more
literature to show in theliterature, because we have more
literature to show thepreponderance, use of Black
Amour in the literatureThroughout the 15th.
(03:20):
Between the 15th and 1800,black Amour was interchanged,
used synonymously with Negro andEthiopian.
You don't see that today.
You don't see that throughoutthe 1900s.
What is the motive behind thedisappearance of Black Amour?
(03:41):
More Black Amour and BlackAmour used synonymously with
Negro and Ethiopian in theliterature.
What's the motive behind thedisappearance?
Why not throughout the 1900s?
What happened?
So we first set the stage withour receipts, our finding of
(04:03):
facts, our evidence, shortstories, other literature,
bibles, dictionaries, claims,movies.
You got to show the facts, yougot to show the facts.
(04:23):
So I remember that the claim iskeep in mind, my brothers and
sisters, the claim is right nowis why the disappearance of
Moore, black Moore, black Moorefrom the literature?
Because you have those whomisunderstand the claim.
(04:46):
We're not Moores.
No, no, no.
We're not saying that.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We're not saying that.
What we're saying is why Moore,blackmore, blackmore is not in
the literature throughout the1900s, as it was, as you can see
(05:11):
, through research in during the15, 16, 17, and 1800s.
I'm going to make it clear now,because you're not going to
out-slick me, not going toout-slick me.
I'm going to make it clear nowbecause you're not going to
out-slick me, not going toout-slick me, we'll make it
clear.
We're not boys.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
We're not saying that right now.
We're not saying that now.
We're talking about theliterature.
(05:34):
Now we're talking about theliterature.
We'll make it very clear onwhat we're saying.
We don't want people to run.
I'm grabbing those who try torun.
You ain't running.
You're not going to run.
All right, we're going to stickto the literature, the facts,
(05:56):
the motive behind it.
So I want y'all to think aboutthat while we're going through
it, and this also those who arewatching us.
You can use our presentationsto teach from.
Israel always shares the slideson his Facebook page and I
always share the mine.
You can use the literature toteach from.
(06:16):
All right, israel Did he whathappened?
He went off.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Same thing I tried to turn the camera off because
something was happening.
But yeah, all right.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
All right, I just wanted to set the.
You know, and that was goodthat how he went into it.
Then I just wanted to set theplatform Go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Fall in the practice of a damn slave.
This is arts and sciences, buarts and sciences writing
program.
Fall in in the practice of adamn slave.
Racial ideology and Vellini andShakespeare's Othello ideology
in Vellani and Shakespeare'sOthello, mari Rooney.
Read the instructor'sintroduction.
(07:08):
Read the writer's comments andbio.
Download this essay.
In a chapter from his book, theMore in English Renaissance
Drama, jack D Amico asserts thatsome Renaissance era plays
encourage they're predominantlywhite and then it cuts off.
But basically making it standout about the book is a chapter
(07:32):
in a book.
The book is called the More inEnglish Renaissance Drama by
Jack D Emiko.
This is from Cal L Day OnFacebook Book by JA Rogers.
(07:52):
So the book is by JA Rogers.
This is a post by Cal L Day onFacebook.
The most ancient names ofso-called black people are
Nahasu or Nubian.
A Nubian equals Mar.
Ancient Egypt, ethiopian 1599.
(08:13):
Geneva Bible says Mor insteadof Ethiopian, also one of the
older names of the Africancontinent continent given by
Greeks.
Mor M-A-U-R or Mer.
M-r equals high priest of Anu.
Also means builder or lord ofthe land from ancient Egypt.
(08:36):
Let's look at Negro In thisetymological demonstration.
It relates back to the rivernigger, meaning people of the
great river, you mean Niger.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Would it be a G, a soft G or a hard G?
Speaker 3 (08:58):
And it's pronounced Niger.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yes, niger, meaning people of the Great River.
It doesn't have anything to dowith their complexion or status,
so it was connecting them to ariver.
That was the name of a river,not the name of a people.
What do these all have incommon?
Land, which means nationality,honoring forefathers and mothers
(09:25):
.
Negro, black, colored, equal,stateless, so miscellaneous.
This is number 91 in the 100amazing facts about the Negro.
The most ancient names forso-called black people are
Nehessu, or Nubian, ethiopianand more from ancient Egypt, and
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Negro or Negrita from WestAfrica.
All the above are nativeAfrican words.
Negro is probably the oldest,as the Negritos are the oldest
known branch of the human race.
Negro comes from the riverNiger.
Niger found its way into Latinand since the people from that
(10:12):
region were dark skin, niger,negra, negrum came to mean black
, negro, negrito.
Negrita means the people of thegreat river.
Black and colored like whiteare, on the other hand, european
words.
Ethiopian and more werepopularly used to describe the
(10:34):
so-called blacks until 1500.
Shakespeare uses Negro onlyonce, and uses it synonymously
with more, and uses itsynonymously with more.
Africa comes from the ancientEgyptian Afrika, or Kafrika, the
land of the Kaffir.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's interesting, being that America is supposedly
named after Ameriko.
What's his name, beskuchi?
Americo, americo.
What's his name?
Americo.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Vespucci, vespucci, vespucci.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Vespucci, however you say his last name.
Yeah, so, but JA Rogers issaying something different,
according to Cal L Day.
I just want to mention this aswell.
Remember, this is also apodcast, so, uh, even though
you're putting the images on thescreen, just keep in mind that
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people are also listening onspotify and, uh, apple music.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Anyway, continue, indeed, all right but did you
want to go on it?
You ain't on this.
Uh, brother, I'm doing no it'sgood.
So who are the Moors?
Renee Bassett, phd, in herMoors literature books,
describes them this way theregion which extends from the
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frontiers of Egypt to theAtlantic Ocean and from the
Mediterranean to the Niger wasin ancient times inhabited by a
people to whom we give thegeneral name of uh oh, general
name of Berbers.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
yeah, we'll say Berbers, and then it cuts off
right and keep in mind it'sMoorish literature, that's the
name.
Moorish literature, yeah, sothat's.
So.
We look again once again whenwe're looking at the predominant
use of Moor, black Moor andBlackamoor in the literature
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short stories, poems, plays,bibles, dictionaries and other
forms of writings that waspredominant during the 15, 16,
17, and 1800s, even before the1500s, but then it started
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waning during the 1900s where totoday, you don't see it at all,
like you don't hear people sayyeah, hey, black Moore.
In the movie the Black Knight,the Black Knight, martin
Lawrence five times, five or sixtimes, martin Lawrence is
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referred to as Moore, I'll cutoff.
Referred to as Moore, I'll cutoff your tongue.
Moore and Martin Lawrencewalking away.
Man, he called me Moore onemore time.
I knocked the you-know-what outof him.
Yeah, see that Now.
Of course that went overeverybody's head because it's
entertainment, you know what Imean Went over people's heads
and I remember my aunt.
When it came out, my aunt wentto see the movie, my mother's
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sister, she went to go see themovie and she recalled my
teaching her that we're Moorsand she says yeah, wayne, yeah
Wayne, yeah, I was thinkingabout you, he said, because now
she was probably the only one inthe movie theater that was
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thinking this way because shehad something.
She had a reference point,conversations with me,
literature I've shown her, sothat stood out to her.
You know Martin Lawrence sayingthey say more five times to
Martin Lawrence.
That stood out to her and sherecounted that when she had you
know a couple of days later toher.
You know Martin Lawrence sayingthey say more five times to
Martin Lawrence.
That stood out to her and sherecounted that when she had.
You know a couple of days laterto me.
I'll continue.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Race and ethnic hub.
Load this up, let's see.
Race and ethnic hub.
Race and ethnic hub the moorsblack presence in the united
kingdom before and after thetutor period.
Carol brown leonardi.
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Hello, I'm dr carol brown lei.
I'm a social anthropologist andI work in the Faculty of Arts
and Social Sciences, fass, asassociate lecturer and honorary
researcher at the OpenUniversity, and I'd like to
welcome you to my presentation,which is going to be about the
Moors Black presence in theUnited Kingdom before and during
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the Tudor period.
So I'll make a start then.
So the Moors are northernAfricans and they have extensive
knowledge of ancient Egypt andNubia, which was fostered from
constant cultural exchangesbetween the Africans of the
Northwest and North Africa, andthey introduced science,
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literature and other forms ofknowledge to Europe.
That lifted it out of the darkages when they conquered the
Iberian Peninsula in AD 711.
The Iberian Peninsula, thenknown as Al-Andalus territories,
thrived as a center of arts andculture.
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It was esteemed for scientificadvancements and economic
prosperity.
The Moors existed and ruled inEurope for over 700 years and
resided in the Royal House ofEurope, where they collaborated
on many levels with each other,which included marriage.
There is very little discussionabout the presence of Black
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people in Scotland, england,ireland, wales before 1500, and
this presentation aims to gainsome insights on some Black
individuals that lived andvisited England or the United
Kingdom before this period.
I thought we would think aboutthe story of Europa.
So the story of Europa is atthe heart of European identity
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and culture.
Europa the young maiden was theobject of affection of the
Olympian god Zeus, who wasenamored by her beauty.
He devised a plan whichinvolved metamorphosing himself
into a beautiful bull.
The young maiden gatheringflowers is impressed by the
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bull's handsome flank and gentlenature.
She caresses the bull and getson his back.
Zeus takes the opportunity toabduct her and swim to the
island of Crete, where heimpregnates her.
Thus she becomes pregnant andgives birth to three children,
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one of which is the king ofCrete.
Minos Negro.
Morris was synonymous with more, that's M-A-U-R-U-S.
Morris Was synonymous with moreNegro and Ethiops.
A-e-t-h-i-o-p-s.
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A-e-t-h-i-o-p-s.
In John Eddick's A New EnglishLatin Dictionary 1783.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
1783.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
In A New Latin English Dictionary by William
Young 1810.
Morris is a.
Speaker 1 (18:16):
Blackmoor, can I interject before you continue?
The first one you brothers werebreaking it down on how I
forgot those Europeans names, onhow they started to gradually
change things in the I guess itwould be the dictionary, right
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was that the Geneva Bible?
Speaker 3 (18:45):
you talking about Geneva Bible, Yvonne?
Speaker 1 (18:47):
No no no.
You referring to?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
Francois Bonheur.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Right.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I got you.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
And what year was that?
Do you remember?
Francois Bonheur was 1684.
So, if you follow the first one, going on into this one,
there's a timeline Indeed.
Yep, okay, check.
So I need to put those twovideos together in a like a file
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, so to speak.
Yes, okay, I'm following.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Alright, yes, okay, I'm following.
Absolutely All right, yeah, soaccording to the Ainsworth's
Latin dictionary, morell'sabridgment by Alexander Jameson,
robert Ainsworth, 1828.
Morris means Blackmoor.
Okay, the English term morealso meant black in English
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dictionaries and encyclopediaprior to the 20th century.
More meant Negro or Blackamorein a dictionary of the English
language, and that'sB-L-A-C-K-A-M-O-O-R.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Black Amor.
So let me say this again,because you got those who are
trying to run, those that aretrying to run and try to dismiss
our point we're making.
I'm not going to allow them todo that.
See, see, see.
It says there that more meansblack.
Well, that's not our claim,though.
That's not what we'representing.
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That's not our claim.
That's not our claim, though.
That's not what we'representing.
That's not our claim.
That's not our claim.
More means black, more meansthis.
That's not what we'representing here.
What we're presenting here forthose who I'm not allowing
nobody to run what we'representing here is the
predominant use of more black,more.
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What we're presenting here isthe predominant use of more
black, more black, more in theliterature during the 15, 16, 17
, 1800s and its disappearancethroughout the 1900s.
Not, it means this, no, we'retalking about it's actual use.
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People writing Blackmore inliterature, blackmore,
blackamore.
You know, like we see here, wetalk about like you don't see
this today.
Do you see this today?
1950s, 1970s, 1980s, 1990s,2000, 2010, you see literature
like this.
You see this in thedictionaries today.
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Like this you have to liveliterature, bibles, short
stories, plays.
That's what we're talking about, when I'm not allowing no one
to run today?
Not running today, go aheadIsrael alright, what was that?
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Go ahead, israel, all right.
Yeah, so the English term morealso meant is that what it was?
Yeah, the English term morealso meant black.
In English dictionaries andencyclopedia prior to the 20th
century, moore meant Negro orBlack Amor.
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In a dictionary of the Englishlanguage 1768 by Samuel Samuel
Johnson, the Encyclopedia Londonin London in this London is
1817 by John Wilkes lists Mooreas follows Morris, and also I
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did miss this at the top.
Further proof of the truedefinition of the Latin term
Morris can be found in earlyEnglish Latin dictionaries and
that's what we just went through.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Finding a fax evidence.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
Okay, so, so, being that, you know, you took us from
, I believe, the 1500s, with thefirst one 15 or 1600s, yeah,
and it seems like they'regetting further and further and
further away from more and thengo into more Negro, black color.
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So what would be the motive,over hundreds of years, to try
to rewrite history?
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Good, great question.
All right Now, this is why youhave to.
This is why history is soimportant, because that gives
you the insight, the answer.
You start seeing the increasein European power.
All right, let's look at it.
So let's answer Ron's question.
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In 1492, what happened?
The Treaty of Granada?
So that's a great question, ron.
1492.
What happened the Treaty ofGranada?
So that's a great question, ron.
The Treaty of Granada, november25th 1492.
What was that about?
That's the treaty with AbuMuhammad.
Abu Muhammad surrendered theMoorish territorial sovereignty
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over Granada to Isabella, kingIsabella and Queen Isabella and
King Fernand.
But in that treaty, though theMoorish territorial sovereignty
surrendered, moorish protectionis still there in that treaty.
There's an extraterritorialstill there in that treaty.
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There's an extraterritorialityclause in that treaty.
So that treaty protects Moore'spersonal rights in that treaty.
So let me continue, because it'sto answer your question.
So what was happening after thetreaty?
You had Philip II.
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Philip II, who is the son ofPhilip I.
Philip I is the son of KingFernand and Queen Isabella.
Oh, no, sorry, charles I,charles I is the son of Queen
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Isabella and King Fernand.
Philip II is the grandson ofKing Fernand and Queen Isabella.
Philip II is the great-grandson, so the great-grandson Philip
II, he manipulated, dideverything he could to try to
remove the Moorish treatyprotection.
This is where the Moors wereclassified as Spanish.
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There you go.
So this is the subjugation, ron.
That's the subjugation.
So great question, ron.
So what Ron is observing is asystematic dumbed down or the
subjugation and burial of theMoorish nationality, even in the
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literature.
Great observation, ron.
Thank you Great observation,Ron.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Thank you so after.
But what would be the motive Todumb down, To dumb it down?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Subjugation, because if they Look at today, the
people don't know who they are.
So if we don't know who we are.
So, therefore, the Treaty ofGranada Doesn't protect us now,
right.
It doesn't protect us now,right.
It doesn't say Spanish, it saysmore.
It doesn't say Black, itdoesn't say Negro, it's more.
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So you're systematicallyremoving the more sovereignty,
the more treaty protection,removing the more from the
family of nations.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Yeah, now, what I'm trying to figure out is okay.
So the motive is subjugation.
Okay, so why do they want tokeep the Moors, us, subjugated?
As the prophet said Moors, youare rich.
Right, you are plainly rich.
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I think that's, that's how it,that's the quote, right?
So he's saying rich in whatsense?
Do we actually have um land?
Do we have an empire that ourancestors left behind?
And if we were to get withinthe rightful position under the
right names, would we beentitled for lack of a better
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word to these riches, thisempire?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
All right.
So let's first address what theburial of our nationality does,
and now what it does.
It doesn't allow us mentally toreclaim, to even think about
reclaiming, to organize toreclaim, meaning that we're not
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in the same mindset?
That's a great question, greatquestion.
That we're not in the samemindset, that's a great question
, great question.
We're not in the same mindsetas the native people of Hawaii.
The native people of Hawaii,though they've been subjugated
by the United States since 1893,they have been fighting and
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working for that long to recovertheir lost Hawaiian sovereignty
.
They never lost knowledge oftheir mother, of their Hawaiian
kingdom, of Hawaiian sovereignty.
They're absent of it.
They lost their Hawaiiansovereignty but never lost
knowledge of it.
So therefore, we have lostknowledge, we lost knowledge.
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So therefore, there's no fight,there's no recover, there's no
efforts, there's no organization.
I mean that we have been activein civil rights.
We've been active in what Blackand black power?
We've been active there.
We've been active.
A lot of resources, a lot offinance, a lot, a lot of
activity, a lot of parades, alot of marches, a lot.
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We keep on going.
It's a lot, but that what?
But we have not been active onthe large scale in the recovery
of our lost boy's sovereignty.
So what it does, ron?
Great question.
By not knowing who we are, itkeeps our resources misdirected
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and not directed to the recoveryof our lost sovereignty efforts
.
Great question.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Right, I have more questions, but I want you all to
keep building.
Yeah, mm-hmm, right, I havemore questions, but I want you
to keep building.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Yeah, mm, hmm, all right, so we have here the flag
of Sardinia.
Many of antiquity havedocumented the appearance of the
Moors.
Sixth century corpus writer andpoet.
Corpus writer and poet uses thephrase phasis negroque colors,
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meaning faces or appearance ofblack color, to describe the
North African.
Thomas Iliot, bibliothecaIliote, london, tomei
Bertholetti, 1542 1542,ethiopian Laos.
Thou washest.
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Thou washest a morin, or more Aproverb.
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Thou washest a mooring, or morea proverb applied to him that
praiseth a thing.
Thinkage that the blackness ofhis saying happened by the
negligence of his first master.
He ceased not to wash themooring continually with such
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things as he thought would makehim white, by the witch labor
and washings.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
He so vexed the poor slave that he brought him into a
great sickness, his skinremaining still as black as it
was before now notice this thatblack was only used and in this
guy here, black was only used todescribe what Israel, his skin
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more was used to identify Israel, his skin More was used is used
to identify.
Black is used here, but todescribe skin more is used to
identify 1542.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Indeed.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
Just wanted to point that out.
Go ahead, Brock.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Misogynist Catherine Laurentius Barwee.
Barwee Barwee, 1577 CAC.
I am, by my country and birth,a true Egyptian.
I have seen the black moors andthe men of Sign.
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My father was also a naturalEthiopian.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I spell black moors For those who are watching.
Spell black moors.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
I have seen the black moors Lowercase b l-a-c-k space
uppercase m-o-o-r-s.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
That's 1577.
All right, that's why we got topoint these out yep details
absolutely we have else elsedone.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Cole smith, american surnames 1986.
In shakespeare's time, theaudience at the globe accepted
the word as meaning a black man,and either then or later on it
became tautologically extendedinto blackamore.
It's b-l-a-c-k-a-m-o-o-r, nospaces, just one word.
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It's a compound word.
The common people of thecountry are not likely to have
known much about ultra-BritishMoors, not enough, at any rate,
to have made the word aneveryday term for a Black man.
Nor can the Moors of heraldrybe explained sufficiently by the
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theory that the founders offamilies bearing Moors as
supporters and Moors' heads ascrests had won their spurs in
assisting the spainers to expeltheir moors let's stop there,
israel.
Speaker 3 (34:32):
Let's go back to that second paragraph and answer the
question now.
Now we, now we're looking atthe present time commences 1986.
This is 1986.
The common people of thecountry are not likely to have
known much about ultra BritishMoors, not enough, at any rate,
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to have made the world aneveryday turn for a black man.
What that was, what was thecase in the 1500s, 1600s, 1700s,
1800s.
This is what we're claiming,that's our claim.
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That's our claim.
Why not, why Arthur, why Arthur?
What's his name?
Why, why, why, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why, why,
why, why, why, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why, why,
why, why, why, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why, why,
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why, why, why, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why, why,
why, why, why, why, why, why,why, why, why, why, why?
No, now you have a so-calledscholar I'm not going to call
them scholars so-called scholarwho would present this as a
claim and not do what we'redoing.
So their audience doesn't knowJack, their audience doesn't
know Jack.
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So this is how you shape.
So they're not going to present, so the audience doesn't know
that during the 15, 16, 17,1800s, that what was the case,
what was well known and used inliterature and in the general
public.
But if the audience doesn'tknow that, then the so-called
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scholar can play the audience.
The so-called scholar canpresent this, the so-called
scholar can present this.
So what we're doing is no, no,no, no.
It was well known, it waswidely used.
Why not today?
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Continue Israel.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
I just want to emphasize certain points yeah,
I'm going to read this paragraphagain.
Nor can the Moors of Heldry beexplained sufficiently by the
theory that the founders offamilies bearing Moors are as
supporters and Moors heads ascrests had won their spurs in
assisting the Spaniards to expelthe Moors.
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The bearing is too common amongancient coats to admit of this
explanation, and the heraldicrepresentation of a Moor or
Negro man does not suggestGranada.
The features are ugly andirregular, and the hair, though,
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longer than that of a pureNegro, is woolly.
The head is encircled by afillet or chaplet and there are
pearls pendant from the ears.
The complexion is of courseblack.
The complexion is of courseblack.
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More dub du D-U-B-H is black,more Moro or moray.
In Highland tradition there aremany sea tinkers, such as the
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blacksmith of Dronthyn, and inthis Galloway district,
especially the legendaryBlackamore, black Moray or Black
Douglas is remembered in oneaccount as a sea rover and in
another one one and in anotheras one of a company of sea,
foreign moors or Saracensvarious historical names sacking
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churches and monasteries,killing and ravishing and at one
time actually conquering thegreater portion of the British
islands.
Apparently, then, thispatriarchal leader of the Tory
section of the Galloway Fallswas a genuine descendant of the
ancient Moors or Picts.
These are the ways of a 13thcentury horde of Tartars
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emerging from the Danish orKimbrick Peninsula.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
Alright.
So I can understand why they'recalling us ugly.
I can understand.
So it's not.
You got to keep in mind, mybrothers and sisters, the
context.
Well, when you call somebodyugly and all that, if they're
capturing you, like, wouldn'tyou?
I mean, I can understand, I'mnot mad.
I'm not mad.
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If you know the history, youwouldn't be mad at this.
That's capturing you, holdingyou for ransom, like wouldn't
you call them ugly and all that.
I mean I would Like, wouldn'tyou call them ugly and all that.
I mean I would Like youwouldn't be, you know.
So you understand why theauthor is calling us ugly, not
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that we're ugly, he doesn't meanthat that's emotional, because
we're capturing them, holdingthem for high ransom.
So I understand that.
I'm just trying to be mybrothers and sisters.
We gotta be objective.
I'm just gonna be objective,I'm gonna provide objectivity
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here.
He's a racist, no, he's notforget all.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,we're not going there.
We gotta analyze it in thehistorical context.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,no, we're not going there.
We got to analyze it in thehistorical context, go ahead
Israel.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I was going to pull it up, but I'll just read it.
The word ugly the etymology ofthe word ugly, adjective
mid-13th century ug-like,frightful or horrible in
appearance, from a Scandinaviansource such as Old Norse,
ugliger, dreadful, fearful, fromugler fear, apprehension, dread
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, perhaps related to egg, a-g-g,strife, hate, plus ligger
L-I-G-R.
Like so yeah, they were dead.
So having fear, you know theywere fearful.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I can see the fearful , I can see that I'm at that.
For me, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
All right.
So up here these are thedifferent crests with the
Moorish heads.
Make it as wide as possible.
You can see the words are kindof faded.
A period says Morel, morel,morel, morel, morel More.
Speaker 3 (41:46):
Yeah, you can see a more when they blow it up.
They blow it up on their phone,their device.
You can see it, you can seethem.
Speaker 2 (41:53):
I think it says Lubeck.
It looks like it says Lubeckunder there.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Yeah, so yeah, you see more.
You see more in it, thedifferent Latin and Dutch, and
absolutely it's in J Rogers'book, nature's no, the Cuddle
Line, chapter 6.
The Negro has more in Europeanaristocratic families he shows
off there's lots of coat of armsand there's thousands of them,
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coat of arms, family crests andso forth.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Code of Arms, Family Crest and so forth.
Moray in geography, a countryin Scotland.
Moray adjective Can't reallysee that Something to be from
Moro, a moor, Dark brown, darklyred.
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Moray from the adjective a darkbrown, More, A more a black, a
black, a more a Negro, anEthiopian Moors.
In the Middle Ages and the 17thcentury Moors were supposed to
be black and the supposed to beblack and the word was used as a
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generic name for all dark skinraces as equivalent to Negro or
Blackamore today.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
But why is that not today, though?
Why is it not used?
Why is it more today?
But why is that not today,though?
Why is it not used?
Why is it more today's 1950s,1940s, 1930s, 1970s, 1980s?
Speaker 1 (43:35):
1990s.
This is the.
This is the question that Iwould love to have you brothers
answer, because how did theymaintain that status quo to keep
the nationality of the Moors?
Look down?
Right, because people come andgo, because we all got to go,
right.
So how were they?
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Was it something passed downthrough generations in some kind
of secret society to keep thisgoing?
How was this done?
Or was it done just through?
Um, uh, just over time, peopleforgot, or you know.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
All right, let me.
Let me answer that once again.
We talked, I saw we gave thetreaty of granada, we gave the
treaty of granada, we gave theTreaty of Granada, 1493.
And there's other politicalactivities that occurred after
that in Europe.
You have the expulsion of theMoors from England in 1610.
You have the IntercaterraDivina.
So after the Treaty of Granada.
So let's look at the timelineAfter the Treaty of Granada of
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14 of 14, 1991, thank you,november 25th 1491.
Thank you, israel.
The Intercatera Divina is 1493,that's.
Thank you, israel.
So for clarification, theTreaty of Granada is November
25th 1491 okay all right.
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The Intercatera Divina, theDoctrine of Discovery.
The third one is November 25th,1491.
Okay, all right.
The Inter Catera Divina, theDoctrine of Discovery.
The third one is March 24th,march 6th, 1493.
Pope Alexander VI.
All right, so that's Now.
This just happened.
Their agenda is written out.
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Their agenda is written out.
Their agenda is written out.
Their agenda is intercateradivina, doctrine of discovery.
It's written out.
They're organized, they'restructured.
You also.
You also have the, the, the,the.
What's the name?
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Westphalia, the Treaty ofWestphalia, the Peace of
Westphalia, the Peace ofWestphalia of 1648.
That ended the 100-year war,and that is an agreement among
themselves.
That's also written out.
You also have the treaty, thetreaty of Utrecht, the treaty of
Utrecht of 1713, that ended thewar of Spanish succession.
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That's an agreement amongthemselves to not snatch land
from one another without atreaty.
They have agreements, they havewritten agreements.
This is the United Nations,this is the United Nations.
The United Nations Charter isnot the United Nations.
This is the United Nations.
The United Nations Charter isnot the United Nations.
Hear me out, my brothers andsisters.
The United Nations Charter isnot the United Nations.
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Their United Nations is theTreaty of Granada, 1491.
The Intercaterina Divina, 1440.
Dom Diversus IntercaterinaDivina.
1493.
(46:55):
Peace of Westphalia, 1648.
The Treaty of Utrecht and twoother series, that's with that,
1713.
That's their United Nations.
What they did is incorporated,what I mentioned, into modern
international law.
That's their United Nations.
(47:17):
I'm answering your question,ron.
I'm being very detailed.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (47:25):
You have to identify those instruments I got to give
you sources?
I'm answering your question,ron.
I'm being very detailed.
Okay, you have to identifythose instruments.
I got to give you sources.
I'm identifying those sources.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
That's what they operate on, whenever they draft
contracts or make treaties oranything, they're going to keep
those things in mind.
Right, and actually theCrusades was sparked, I guess.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
That too.
Speaker 2 (47:50):
Yeah, that's 12, that's that's there you go, go
ahead, there you go.
Yeah, he rallied the uh,rallied the christian knights,
uh.
In claremont, france, in 1095.
He gave a speech rallying themto go, you know, go out, and uh,
basically, and also, whatevercrimes they had committed prior
to that, as long as they were inhonor of the Pope and
(48:14):
conquering us you know more, orwhatnot, then that thing, you
know, that would get wiped offlike the record was clean.
That's how the Pope, that's howPope Urban II was promoting
that.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
This is important.
These receipts are veryimportant because this is their
conquesting foundation thatthey've maintained to this very
day.
Once again, they haveincorporated it within modern
international law.
It's important that we knowthis.
This is what I'm saying is veryimportant.
We cannot go half-cocked.
We must have this knowledge.
(48:54):
This is major.
We can't assume one thing.
We have to know what they'reoperating on.
Speaker 2 (49:10):
Continue Israel continue as well.
Oh yeah, I did miss this piecedown here, the word tawny, the
word tawny, tawny, t-a-u-n-e.
Tawny, t-a-u-n-e.
Tawny, t-a-w-n-y From TawnyT-A-U-N-E.
(49:31):
Tawny.
Adjective A brownish orange tolight brown that is slightly
redder than sorrel.
Compared Tint T-E-N-N-E.
Number two A tawny coloredcloth or garment.
Number three Archaic A.
(49:52):
A brown skinned person.
B.
American Indian.
Speaker 3 (49:58):
Alright, let me.
Let's use Terrence Howard.
We're gonna use Terrence Howardand Wesley Snipes.
So we're in the 1500s, we're inthe 1500s, we're in the 1500s.
Wesley Snipes during the 1500s,16, 17, 1800s, wesley Snipes
and Terrence Howard you alreadyknow what they look like.
(50:20):
Terrence Howard would bereferred would have been
referred to as a tawny moor.
Wesley Snipes would be referredto as a black or moor or black
moor.
Today, wesley Snipes isreferred to as a dark-skinned
(50:42):
black man.
Today, terrence Howard isreferred to as a light-skinned
black man.
Today, terrence Howard isreferred to as a light skin
black man, but not during the 15, 16, and 1700s.
Tony Moore and Blackmore Ha ha,ha, ha Ready.
(51:05):
All right and why not today?
Why isn't Terrence Howardreferred to as a Tony Moore
today?
We already know the answer.
Why isn't Wesley Snipesreferred to as a Blacker Moore
today?
Speaker 1 (51:20):
we know the answer this is, yeah, honestly, man,
you know not to be.
You know I I'm no person to getspooked out and scared of stuff
excuse my language, but this iskind of scary if you really
(51:41):
think about it.
Like the way they took thenationality away and what's been
happening behind closed doorsand how they have everybody like
this zombies.
It's kind of crazy, man, like,if you really think about this,
(52:01):
from like the way you broke itdown on the first one from the
timeline and how it kind of wentfrom more and slowly went to
black or more and then slowlywent to Negro and then then went
to black and thenAfrican-American, and then like
(52:22):
what's going on right now youknow what I'm saying?
Like it's like kind of spookyreally, you know.
And then you just broke downthe treaties and all the things
that went on behind closed well,not behind closed doors, this
is public information yeah, it'sprobably not behind closed
doors but the public, they don'tkeep up with this, you know so
you're spooking.
Speaker 2 (52:43):
The spookiness would be like uh, for instance, like
we're being buried alive, we canactually see you.
Can you're conscious of thatburial?
Speaker 1 (52:50):
right, exactly, exactly.
And then you're watching peoplefight you over the word black,
it's just.
And then you just you're givingthem the information, giving
them the information, and theydon't want to accept that.
There's something to this thatwe need to really look into.
(53:10):
It's kind of scary.
Speaker 3 (53:22):
All right, he's going to move to the next one, All
right.
Speaker 2 (53:25):
Leroy Malikin, malikin, diotre, les Marches de
Galon, galonet, dior, dior.
Yeah, I'm not going to be ableto get this.
Speaker 3 (53:45):
But the key is this Morin, that's the key.
Israel able to get this, butthe key is this Morin, that's
the key.
Israel is that.
Morin is the key.
Speaker 2 (53:51):
Morin, right here yeah point that out.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
The other part, the other part the other part, the
other part, the other part, theother part, the other part.
Hey man, he did it.
Di Moreno Corrone Di Argent.
Hey man, he did it.
Speaker 2 (54:11):
I threw it, he did it .
Yeah, that tongue man, we gottaget our tongue in order.
Speaker 1 (54:20):
That's the what's it called the hypoglossal nerve,
the hypoglossal nerve man.
Hypoglossal nerve man.
Speaker 3 (54:28):
There we go.
Linguistics, linguistics, therewe go, see Terminology Very
important.
Speaker 1 (54:36):
But, mors, you know I don't mean to cut it short, but
you know we only have an hour.
Yep, we're good, we're going tocontinue this.
Part three and then part four.
Speaker 3 (54:46):
Yeah, we do a part three.
We definitely do a part two tothree finishes up Israel.
Yes yeah, this is good.
Yeah, cause this is, this is agood stuff, man.
Yeah yeah, we got it.
Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yes, and I and I think that maybe you know we can
talk about it, but I think youto need more time.
So thank you for coming outthis evening.
I really appreciate you.
And get that hypoglossal, howdo you say it again?
(55:15):
Hypoglossal nerve.
Speaker 2 (55:21):
Get that hypoglossal nerve functioning.
Speaker 1 (55:24):
Y'all On that note.
Thank y'all for coming out.
Peace, everybody in the chat.
We're on another podcast inabout five minutes and we are
out of here.
Peace, oh, oh.
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