Wizards, Warlocks, Spooks and Holy Ghost(Occult) - Sheik Denham El - NYPTALKSHOW Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:10):
what's going on?
Everybody out there is ronbrown lmt, the people's fitness
professional, aka soul brothernumber three.
Soul brother number three inthe building.
Number three to shake denim lbecause he's soul brother number
two now, who's so brothernumber one?
james brown brother ah I knewthat's who you were saying, but

(00:31):
I didn't think that's.
You know what I mean.
I thought you, I thought it wasmore complicated than that, so
complicated.
So, brother number one, jamesbrown.
So today we're talking aboutthe unseen, right, we're talking
about the unseen forces.
Do they exist?
Right?
I would do does.
Does uh do demons and these?
You know, you know entitiesexist.

(00:53):
Do they exist?
Or is it spookism?
So you know I got wizards,warlocks, spooks and holy ghosts
from the jizzer, from thejizzer, uh.
What is it called?
The G-O-D?
What's the name of that song?
The G-O-D?
The G-O-D.
Qualify those who wants to trythe G-O-D.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wizards, warlocks, spooks andholy ghosts Rizaless defraud the
host, and when it steps out ofits place then it gets smacked
in the face.
You know what I'm saying oh,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, peace
King Matala, peace, king Matala.
I don't know if anyone else haswhat I have in my supreme

(01:40):
alphabet or born you truth.
In my supreme alphabet it talksabout Allah, you know being,
you know God of all worlds, lordof all worlds, seen and unseen.
Right, and I always wonderedyeah, swordsman, swordsman,
Swordsman.

(02:00):
And my supreme alphabets?
It says you know, lord of allworlds, seen and unseen.
Alphabet it says you know, lordof all Worlds, seen and unseen.
And when it says unseen, Ialways thought like unseen, what
is that saying?
What is that really?
What is that really talkingabout?
What is unseen?
You know it could be somethingelse, any other, any other gods,
if they have that In theiralphabets, you know they could
add on.
However, you know From myexperience, you know you know

(02:27):
the way I grew up, my mother.
You know my mother.
She deals with, like you know,her ancestral roots when it
comes to voodoo and all of thatvoodoo, et cetera.
And hold on a second Greetingsfrom oh yes, nc.
Amber L, amber Hill, l Islam.
More so from my perspective.

(02:49):
You know the voodoo thing andall that was always around and I
always wondered, like, what'sthe science behind that you know
saying, and at a point I justdeemed it as spookism, spookism,
you know saying, just deemed itas spookism, spookism.
You know I'm saying, um, butlater on I found out that this

(03:10):
is an occult teaching right.
This is an occult world and, um, you know, I just never really
dove deep into it to have a fullunderstanding of it.
So that's why we brought chicdenim l today to build on it.
So peace to you, you brotherSheik Denim L.
Hope all is well with you.
I trust all is well with you.
Thank you for coming out thisevening.

(03:31):
I really appreciate you andyour words of wisdom.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
Thank you for being here, brother, thank you for
having me.
But yeah, I mean, I mean, youjust mentioned voodoo man.
Like to some people that'sspooky.
You know what I'm sayingBecause when you don't have a
knowledge of a particular thing,it can become spooky.
It can become something thatyou would just draw up and
proceed with from your ownunderstanding, lacking knowledge

(03:59):
of it.
You know, we talk about thingsa lot of times.
People talk about stuff theyhave no knowledge of, all the
time as if they're experts.
It's something that's very, verycommon, because we regurgitate
the things that we may hear, oreven if we're very religious
people, religion teaches verystrongly against what we will

(04:20):
call the occult.
The word occult simply meanshidden.
There's nothing scary about theword.
Occult simply means hidden.
It's nothing scary about theword.
It just means hidden.
It just means knowledge thatyou haven't been exposed to.
So that's what it is.
That's what the occult ishidden knowledge or knowledge
that you have not been exposedto.
And you mentioned earlier abouta law being the Lord of the

(04:42):
worlds.
Worlds is plural, so you knowthat's a plural word right, so
that's more than one world right.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Right.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Yeah, the Lord of all of the world, seen and unseen.
Well, now, when you're dealingwith seen and unseen, you got to
remember the human being onlyhas so much capacity to see with
his physical eyes.
There's only so much you cansee that you can pick up with
your eyes because of the wayyour eyes vibrate, at a
particular rate of speed and aparticular rate dealing with
light.

(05:11):
We can only see so much, sojust the things around us that
we can't see.
There's unseen things going onaround us at all times.
Now, dealing with the unseenworlds, now you're talking
interdimensional, or you'retalking interdimensional, or
you're also talking about justother galaxies that you'll never
physically see with your eyesor probably get a chance to
travel to, physically fly towhatever.

(05:31):
But that word unseen can bevast.
It can be, can be drawn up todefine or to be defined, or
expressed in a couple of ways.
Yeah, you understand what Imean.
Okay, yes, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Okay, so you said it could be expressed in a couple
of ways.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah, and I just gave a couple.
I just mentioned unseen beingsomething right here on this
plane With the physical eyesthat we can't see.
Also, maybe other planets andother worlds or galaxies that we
would never be able tophysically see With our own eyes
or even physically get to gothere, but maybe can go there
astrally, who knows.
And then you got the unseen,where you're just dealing
inter-dimensionally.
Things happen in dimensiondimensions.

(06:15):
You know I'm saying so.
We, we have we have planes ofdimensions and things that
that's stacked as well Thirddimension, fourth dimension,
fifth dimension, dimensionalthings as well.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Okay, okay.
So what's your experience withthe occult?

Speaker 2 (06:33):
Oh, it's just, you know, like I said earlier, it's
hidden knowledge, it just meanshidden knowledge, and I'm just,
I'm a student of many things,man.
You know, I have a history withthe occult.
You know, dealing with certain,certain things, dealing with,
as you mentioned, ancestralinformation and ancestral
knowledge, you know, I'm sayingdealing with the elements,
dealing with, um, natural magic,sympathetic, magic, things of

(06:56):
that nature, man, okay, so we'relike for what I know, like I
was, I was dabbling with theSanteria a while back.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
I was in my 20s.
I was just doing the knowledgeat that time, just doing the
knowledge of everything.
I've experienced some thingswhere I watch people dance kind
of wild bite a chicken's headoff and you know, and things
like that.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, that's the low-wow, that's the orisha,
that's what they call thelow-wows.
When you're being riding, whenyou're being ridden, it's called
being ridden.
When the low-wows come down andthey take your form and they
ride you, they begin to expressthrough you.
You know, some people prophesy,some people, like you said,
they flip around, roll around orwhatever, but it's no different
than going to a Pentecostalchurch on Sunday and saying the

(07:47):
same thing, but they catch theHoly Ghost Right Rolling around
on the floor.
And they're speaking in funnylanguages that nobody can
interpret.
You know it's right amongst ourown people, right in what you
call church.
Matter of fact, the Pentecostalchurches if you go back into
the South, the Pentecostalchurches or the strong prayer
churches were some of the most.

(08:07):
Some of those women were someof the most advanced specialists
in the occult sciences.
Those women in thosePentecostal churches with those
prayer rooms, the women withthem, big old hats on, yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
So what, what?
What's the validity to the, tothe lowest, like, like?
Is that actually happening?
Or people are just hyped up andyou know what's the science?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
behind it.
Like well, when you, when youwitnessed it, what did you see?
Did you see it?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
actually happen.
When I witnessed it it lookedwild to me.
I've never I've seen it inchurch like in baptist churches.
I've seen it before, but thisone was a little different
because this person was likelike eating glass oh, yeah, yeah
, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, that's real.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
I mean, think about if you're eating glass, brother
I.
You can't fake that.
You can't fake I mean, unlessyou got a prop set up prior.
You know you can't fake that.
Like me, I'm a skeptic ofeverything.
Yeah, no doubt I mean me too.
I mean, you know, I'm skepticalabout a lot of things.
You know what I'm saying, butthat I've witnessed as well and

(09:35):
that I've experienced.
That makes me know andunderstand that there's another
whole side of reality that manyof us don't deal with, because
other demographics or othersocial institutions have driven
us away and we fear these things, while those same institutions
that have driven you away and wefear these things, while those
same institutions that havedriven you away from it utilize
and subdue you through it.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Right Now.
My experience with theseenergies for instance, for me to
still be curious about it isthat not only did I see that
ceremony going on, where thisperson was eating glass bit the
chicken's head off, blood wasgoing everywhere.

(10:11):
It was just a wild scene.
And then there was twoinstances.
One day I went to thisgathering.
I was young.
I went there for a female.
I went there for a female, Iwent there for a female.
I went there for a female.
She was like I want you to comeand check out my church.
I said, all right, I'm going tocheck out your church, right?

(10:32):
So I go to the church and thenI, and when I go in there, I'm
standing there, you know, causeat that time I already had
knowledge of self.
So I'm like everybody in there,85, 85.
So I'm kind of like laughing.
I'm laughing in my mind.
I'm not laughing out loud, butI'm laughing in my mind.
I'm like these people are crazyman.
So then, uh, I'm standing thereat the end of the whole thing

(10:54):
and this guy would walk aroundand he was touching people's
foreheads, right and so, andpeople were falling out.
And I'm laughing like yo, thisshit is like a joke, right To me
.
And then he came over to me andtouched me in my forehead Word
is born.
I fell out.
I fell out Like I went out andthen I woke up.

(11:17):
When I woke up, I just felt likeat peace and like really light
and I never understood how thathappened.
I don't know how that happened.
Like you know, I'm saying like,like these people meditate, and
all of that for long periods oftime, meditate, pray, whatever
you want to call it, and they'reactivating something that we're

(11:41):
not dealing with.
You get, I'm saying, and Ithink that's what it is, you
know I'm saying they're like,like, almost like monks, you
know, like, like, like likeshallon monks, yeah, meditate
for long periods of time.
They could like, touch someoneand and send electrical, you
know, uh, energy throughouttheir body.

(12:02):
You know, I'm saying the hill,the hill, like I watched, uh, uh
, a Tai Chi master do thatbefore.
So I think it's all together,like it's all relative, you know
what I'm saying.
Also, um, there was another timewhen, um, you know, I went to
go see my mom.
She was in church.
I went to go see my mom, I satin the back and, um, he told, he

(12:27):
said everybody stand up and we,he's walking around, walking
around and he, he's givingeverybody a hug.
He gave me a hug and, bro, likesomething happened, I don't
know what happened, like, afterthe hug, just like, I felt, felt
clean.
It was just a wild experience.

(12:49):
That's why I'm curious, becauseI think that all of this stuff
is relative to the occultsciences.

Speaker 2 (13:05):
It is, bro, because most preachers a lot of
preachers, I can't say most, butmany preachers are initiates of
other things, bro.
They're initiates of otherschools of thought.
You know they belong to otherspiritual orders and other
societies where other things istaught as well.
You know what I mean and youcan cross and you can cross and
you can cross reference thesethings.

(13:26):
Like you can utilize certainthings in religion, you can
utilize certain healingtechniques and certain healing
rituals in any religion, becauseit's healing.
It may not come from religionat all, but you can use it in a
religion to heal somebody.
You see what I mean.
So you could use it in areligion to help somebody.

(13:54):
So the religion, the realsciences, is what they call
pagan or heathen man, the pagansciences or the heathen sciences
.
That's where religion comesfrom.
When you really look at theorigin of churches and where
they are, where they were built.
They were built on pagangrounds, man.
Many churches sit on groundswhere other rituals were held
before there was even a religioncalled Christianity.
Many places are built on thosesame grounds and then when you

(14:16):
look at the churches and youlook at the buildings, I mean
you see the flower of lifesymbolism, you see the elemental
symbolisms of life expression,the Fibonacci patterns and all
types of other sacred geometryall over the walls and signs and
symbols that had nothing to dowith Christianity but that's all

(14:37):
over Christian churches and soon and so forth.
Man, that's all spells, thoseare all rituals, those are all
rituals, right?

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Peace Crip Jesus, peace Crip Jesus, king Mathala.
In yoga, they talk aboutcontrolling breathing in your
mind to a point you can make itrain.
That's a fact.
All the above is caused by theSon of man.
Now, I don't know anybodyelse's experiences.
I made it rain, brother.
I made it rain.
Okay, now check this outAnybody else.

(15:07):
When you in a like back in thedays, me and the guards we used
to build on the corner, and youand like when you're building at
certain points I don't know ifyou've been through this, but
it's like it's like you're notreally there physically, you
know, I'm saying it's likeyou're traveling and then it

(15:28):
start raining.
Though it start raining, Iexperienced that twice, so
that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Like so, with the teachings anybody else have
experience with, with buildingand this happening, like, yes, I
have not not only in the build,not only with the gods, but
also when I was with an Africandance troupe called Shanti Amani
, you know what I'm saying.
You know, we did a ritual toShango in the park and we made

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it thunder, lightning and allthat.
It was a clear summer day out.
The clouds came black, all thatman.
I mean, this is kind of thingsIn the Moorish Holy Quran.
Chapter 1 of the Moorish HolyQuran is an invocation.
Chapter 1 is a method ofTeaching you how to Control
lightning, air, fire, water,earth, thunder.

(16:23):
All of that is in chapter 1.
But people don't understandwhat chapter 1 is.
They just read it, but notunderstanding that.
It's an actual invocation whenyou're calling the elements Hear
ye now all living things.
Hear ye now Fire, air, water,earth.
Hear ye now, see what I'msaying.
Spirit man speaks from thehighest planes of life.

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This is who's calling.
This is who's speaking now.
The spirit man is calling Hearye now all protoplasts, living
things, all that.
He's calling them andcommanding them and invoking
them for his own purpose and candirect the lightning, can
direct the thunder and so on andso forth.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Right, that's moral science, right, that's what make
it a science.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
See Moral science is a science and Islamism is the
religion.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Right okay, okay, so now, back.
Now to go back to the subjectof oh, we're already on there
now.
Yeah, you've experienced thisrain coming down, thunder, etc.

(17:38):
Yeah, it's, it's what's your,what's your background as far as
the occult.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
If you can share that , well, I have a, I have a vast
background in the occult man.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna initiate acouple of different sacred
orders.
I'm an initiate of a couple ofdifferent sufi orders.
I'm an initiate of a couple ofmartial spiritual orders.
Um, I was, I was a free mason.
I went through the lodge um,you know what I'm saying.
I also, I'm also highly adeptin science of hoodoo.

(18:06):
My family family is fromMississippi.
I mean my grandmother and mygrandfather were very high in
certain sciences.
I mean dealing with theelements, dealing with nature,
dealing with graveyards, dirtand all that type of stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Man, so if you can give us, you know, like an idea
of you know what you've beenthrough as far as Sufism, if you
could build on that, you knowreal quick.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Okay, Well, Sufism is what they call the inner
teachings of Islam, and in Islamyou have what they call inner
and outer teachings, right, andyou have Sharia, and then you
have what they call Tasha Wuf.
Sharia is the outer law.

(18:59):
You know Quran, the law, theSharia laws and so on and so
forth, and then you have TashaWuf.
Tasha Wuf is the inner laws,the spiritual, the unseen, and a
lot of that is simply basedaround.
It's mystical, it's mysticism.
It's based around the abjad,which is the numerical values of
the Arabic numbers and theletters themselves, Kharufism,

(19:24):
where you study the study ofactual Arabic letters, as well
as the Hebrew letters and theirum ability to transform into
talisman or to turn into sigilsor to be used for um, or to be
integrated or cross integratedwith other sciences such as
combat you know what I'm sayingSuch as you know Salat, or maybe
even Hoodoo combining,combining you know Sufism with

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hoodoo, combining hoodoo withSalat, and so on and so forth,
Because when you study ancientindigenous combat systems,
there's mysticism that'sattached to it.
You know what I'm saying, whichis what's missing in our combat
systems today there's nomysticism, there's no spiritual
science that's attached to it atall, and you're missing the big
picture.
You're missing the big picture.
So there's certain things thathas to be understood when it
comes down to the occult,because the occult is not just

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people thinking about devils andwitches and evil things.
Remember I said that the occultmeans hidden knowledge.
Also, the occult is being ableto take that hidden knowledge
and apply it and transfuse itinto other things.
One second knowledge and applyit and transfuse it into other
things.
One second Appreciate it, man.

(20:33):
I'll take some.
Thanks.
Man, that's my slender law,Excuse me.
Slender law just brought mesome ginger beer.
Man, I love ginger beer, Thankyou.
So yeah, so ginger beer, yeah,man, so yeah.
So where was I, bro, Before Igot interrupted?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
You were talking about martial sciences.
Oh yeah, it doesn't have.
It's like missing that piece,right, and that for me I'm
noticing, like with the formsare sharp, with angles like
90-degree angles, 45, 90-degree45, 90-degree 45.

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And it's like when you'removing your feet on the floor it
seems like they're making somekind of like a pattern.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
See, when you're doing kata, when you're doing
kata, imagine taking your kataand taking, say I don't know,
say, a straight punch, takingthat straight punch, and when
you punch you visualize theArabic letter Elif.
You know what an Elif look like?

(21:50):
Look like a straight line.
It's an axis, it's the divineaxis, it even has a meaning.
So imagine your punch coming inElif.
Your punch turns into an Elifvisually.
So whatever you visualize withthat blow, it actually becomes
that because it makes it soTransmission, words of power,

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mantras Added to the sprites,added to the movement, the
sliding of the foot into a horsedance, you may say, you may say
ba, the ba is the bee.
You know what I'm saying In theArabic In the visualization of
B.
You know what I'm saying in theArabic In the visualization of
it.
It's like all of that stuff isrelevant, bro.
It all coincides and it allcoexists.

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For instance, in Silat there'sa method in Silat, there's a
sorcery method in Silat whereyou charge and consecrate your
blade.
Your blade becomes a livingspirit because you ritualized it
, you consecrate it, you putwords of power or certain

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prayers on the blade, literallyon the blade.
They're etched into the blade,literally.
So when it's when the blade isbreathed upon or certain things
don't, the blade, the blade,literally.
So when it's when the blade isbreathed upon or certain things
don't, the blade has its ownmission.
Vibration, okay yeah, vibration, frequency and a mission.
It has a purpose, right?

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So you may see those gentlemen,those same cats.
They may have a bag on theirshoulder or something wrapped
around their waist.
Down South they call it mojo,mojo bags or gree-grees.
You will hear that in the oldtalk in the South I got my mojo
working, I got my mojo working.
Well, that's the mojo bag thatthey're carrying that's filled

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with certain types of thingsthat either brings protection,
that brings um other types of uh, frequencies around you.
People like that are neveralone.
They got things working all thetime around them, unseen things
.
A lot of times it's spirits,frequencies, graveyard spirits.
It's a lot of different things,but they control them.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Okay, can you explain , like these Spirits right?
So, coming from the 5% nation,most 5%, I want to say most, I'm
going to say some 5% Would sayyou know, we don't deal With
spirits and things like that.
So you know, I think it's justthe word that gets misconstrued.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
It does get misconstrued, brother, because
anybody who understands thescience, first of all, the word
spirit is spiritus, it's a Latinword, right.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Okay, spiritus, yeah yeah, it means breath Right.
Okay, spiritos, yeah yeah, itmeans breath Right.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
So how?
We don't believe in spiritBecause it's breath, it's spirit
that's got you talking To say Idon't believe in spirits and
spooks.
It's breath or spirit or aspook that got you speaking,
right, right.
So when we're dealing withspirit or spirits, you're

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dealing with frequencies.
Everything is vibration,frequency or sound that has
taken on a form.
This us, we're a frequency.
We're a frequency, a purefrequency, in a physical form
For this plane of existence,designed for this plane of
existence.
Yet we're not the body thatwe're using.

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This is just the tool, this isthe vehicle that we're using For
this plane of existence.
We express soul expressionsThrough a physical form, yet you
can't see the soul, but you cansee the expressions of the soul
through this physical form.
That's magic.
That's unseen, because theauthentic you is unseen, but we

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see the expression of the unseenthrough the seen, expression of
the unseen through the seen.
We can't see Allah, but we sayAllah is seen and heard
everywhere, but we can't see him.
But we can see and hear himeverywhere.
But we can't see him, but wecan see and hear him everywhere.
So then obviously we can seehim.
If he's seen and heardeverywhere, then we can see

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Allah.
But what is a law to eachindividual?
You understand what I'm saying.
What is a law to the individual?
Who sees a law or not?
It's the same thing with thesesciences.
You know what I mean Likecrossroad science.

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Every city, every inner city,has a crossroad, bunchunches of
them when you can stand and seefour corners.
Every place has a crossroad andevery place that has a
crossroad there has been somework done on that very crossroad
.
In that place, new York City,chicago, they all got crossroads

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.
In that place, new York City,chicago, they all got crossroads
and a lot of those areas gotthings that protect it or things
that's attached to it.
That's why certain blocks areknown for death, because nothing
happens on it but death.
Because what's on that block?
It has to be fed with blood.
So death happens all the timeand most of those blocks are

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protected or shrouded with lowfrequencies, low frequency
spirit, anything that you know,low frequency spirit.
And then the people take thespirit.
Like you know even the way wewear clothing, the colors we
wear.
We wear black, we know we wearblack.

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Our children wear black a lot.
The children wear a whole bunchof black all the time, all the
time hoodies cover.
You know, all the time, man,just all the time.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
So what's the science with black?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
Well, in the occult sciences, black represents Satan
or Saturn.
So it's like, when you see,it's the lowest vibration.
But that's only in the scienceof, because you know, black has
another meaning in anotherschool, and this is what I've
been telling people as well.

(28:34):
You know, depending upon theschool that you're dealing with
or that you're dealing from,things don't mean the same
things.
They take on differentunderstandings and they take on
different tones Depending on theschools you come out of.
And because it takes on adifferent tone, it takes on a
different outcome.
Because we buy into, when youbuy into a mass agreement,

(28:56):
brother, you become, you becomethe agreement.
You said earlier the dudetouched you on your forehead and
you passed the fuck out.
Yeah, you kind of bought into aconsciousness, mass agreement,
something.
He did something to you, but hewas doing something to everyone
and you were sitting inside ofa Bro.

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Whenever you go somewhere,you're not the only spirit there
now, everybody else in.
There is a bunch of spirits nowA whole bunch, and some of
there is a bunch of spirits, nowA whole bunch, and some of
those people or some of thosebodies have some things attached
to them.
It's easy for someone to walkin who's not acclimated to

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what's happening in that placeand get caught up in the
vibration, the frequency and allof that.
It's mass agreement, it'sspiritual, it's like hypnotism.
You know, what I'm saying Wasmusic playing.
Music was playing.
Okay, exactly, it wasn'tgetting faster and faster, it

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was the tone speeding up.
The tone was slow.
First of all, look at me, watchme.
You're rocking.
First, the tone is slow.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Nah, I wasn't rocking , though I wasn't rocking.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Not you.
I'm not Not you, not you.
I'm talking about the people.
The tone is slow and then, nextthing, you know, the tone get
faster, the tone.
Everybody start clapping thetone.
People rolling Everybody startclapping the tone.
And people rolling around, thedrum is faster.
Everything speeds up Becausethat's a part.

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The drum is the door, the drumis the door.
The drum is a sound, it's avibration.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
King Mataw and my culture black ain't saying it's
God, but yeah, that's what theGod said already.
He said that you know thesewords that we use.
It depends on who's basicallysaying them and how you
acknowledge them.
It's based on the individual.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, and when you're talking about Satanism, you're
talking about Satanism Camebecause of Christianity.
Satanism Is a manifestation ofChristianity.
The Bible Talks about Egypt awhole lot.
It talks about how it'spolytheist, so on and and so

(31:28):
forth, blah, blah, blah.
Now if you look at Satanismclosely and examine it, all of
the symbolisms of Satanism isEgyptian.
The eye of Amin Ra Ma'at,that's a satanic deity to
Christianity.
The Ankh, all of that stuff issatanic deity to Christianity.
The Ankh, all that stuff issatanic to Christianity.

(31:50):
It's the answer toChristianity's Scariness.
Here's Satanism.
But understand, in the Africantraditions there's no Satan, so
that don't even Vibe with us.
And even in indigenoustraditions there's no Satan,

(32:11):
there's no devil, there's man.
Just like somebody taught whomade the devil?
Well, what is the devil?
Who made God?
What is God?
One man's God is another man'sdevil, indeed, but man is man

(32:32):
himself is just a devil.
He's a devil too In thought.
His actions can be devilish.
So who made devil?
Did Elohim make the devil?
Did God make the devil or didGod just make man?
Now, man has the choice ofhigher self or lower self.
Man has the ability to.
Did God make the devil or didGod just make man?
Now, man has a choice a higherself or a lower self.
Man has the ability to becomeGod or devil.
So did God make a devil, or didGod just make man?

(32:53):
You understand where I'm comingfrom.
Indeed, you know what I'msaying.
So it's like oh.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
L Divine Peace, L Divine, what's going on?
L Divine, what's up with you?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I mean he ain't lying According to the lessons.
That's an actual fact.
He just spit Right.
You know what I'm saying andthat's the thing.
See, you know what about us?
We love the good things aboutus All the good stuff but
there's some wicked stuff too.
We got to learn to take it all.
We got to learn to take thewhole story.

(33:34):
We can't pick and choose thegood stuff and the bad stuff.
Take the whole story, becausethat's what makes us a great
people.
It's who we were and who we are, what we come from, where we've
been, how resilient we are, howwe beat this, how we transform,
how we change.
We're adaptable, swift andchangeable.
Adaptable, that's what we'vealways been.

(33:56):
Our whole history has beenadaptation and we're still
adapting right now as we speak.
So, when it comes down to thesesciences, I tell people all the
time Study, ancient, study Haiti, study the Haiti revolution,
study the Haitian revolution.
Study Bukhman the Muslim, whowas also a Hulgun.
Bukhman the Muslim Was Muslim,but he was a Hulgun, a Haitian

(34:22):
Hulgun master, mixing HaitianHulgun With Sufism, islam Mixed
together and created a hell of afusion.
And this is what we're notdoing.
What we need to be doing todayis mixing these sciences,
because they mean something.
They're all in our hands.
But we ain't being scientists.

(34:44):
We ain't mixing one-third thisand one-third that to create a
mixture that's out of this world.
But that's't being scientists.
We ain't mixing one third thisand one third that to create a
mixture that's out of this world.
B but that's how I operate.
I've been one who's alwaysdealt with fusion.
I was taught to add on, so Ialways add on to everything and

(35:06):
I pull from other things, I pullthe best parts from other
things and bring them into me.
Yeah, indeed, zoroastrianism aswell.
A hundred percent Ahura Mazda,and you know, zoroastrianism
deals a lot with fire and flames.
There's a lot of flame or firescience in Zoroastrianism, a lot

(35:27):
with Fire and flames.
There's a lot of flame or firescience In Zoroastrianism, as
well as the comedic science ofthe lake of fire, in Anubis,
taking you into the underworldacross the lake of fire For
purification, for the soul to bepurified.
But Christianity just tells youthat this is the lake of fire
that you will burn in forever.
See the parallels, indeed, so so, see the parallels, indeed, so,

(35:47):
so, yeah, man, so it's.
It's all of these sciences.
To me, brother, they're very,very well and they coincide and
we have to become more studious,not limit ourselves to just one
, just one school of thinking,because our people sit in every
school.
If you were real master, youwould be able to walk and sit in

(36:09):
every one, every chair, andhave something to offer in every
chair you sit in because ofwhere you have sat, where you
have walked you know what I'msaying when you have you know
what I'm saying Met yourself andall that type of stuff.
Man.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
All right To take it to.
So you, you spoke about sufismright, and you mixed it with
hope.
Uh, who do now explain what?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
do is who do?
Is the ain't who do?
Is the religion of our peoplein the south to pretty much.
Voodoo is just an offshoot ofwhat they call voodoo From our
perspective on these shores,from those who came over and the
descendancy I mean, you gotlittle, you got family from down
South.
Brother, oh yeah, for sure youever been down South?

(37:01):
Oh yeah.
So where were you at what city?
Georgia, Florida, Texas, Texas,okay, yeah, so you'll see some
things like.
You'll see things and maybestuff like the broom getting
swept on your foot and they spiton the broom.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
Or they'll take salt, washing salt, throw it over the
left or put salt in front ofthe doorway a line of salt in
front of the doorway.
Or they'll take the Bible andput it on the 23rd Psalm and lay
it on the bed and burn a candlenext to it.
That's all.
Those are all tenets of hoodoo.
That's basics.
The Psalm, psalmic, sorcery,using the Psalms for sorcery

(37:40):
work, because the Psalms aremagic.
The Psalms can be used to causethings to happen, used properly
, the right time of day, theright day, right planetary
alignments, and so on and soforth.
It's a science B.
You gotta know the days of theweek, you gotta know what angel
rules Monday, tuesday, wednesday, what planet rules, and so on
and so forth.
It's not just something thatyou just, it's not just some

(38:04):
type of little game.
It's science.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Okay, so if you can give me a little more about
hoodoo, because you know, I knowthe Gullah Geechee yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Yeah, the Gullah Geechee is hoodoo voodoo.
It's a combination, becausethey got a over on the Gullah in
South Carolina.
They got a whole Africanvillage over there there.
I forgot the name of thevillage, but there's the
Olatunji.
I think it's the Olatunjivillage, but it's an African
village.
It's a West African village.
They maintain the West Africantraditions and then you got the

(38:40):
Gullah Geechies who maintaintheir situation and you see the
hoodoo through the church.
It's all in the church.
You know what I'm saying theprayer bags, the prayer rituals,
the prayer call.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
I forgot about all of that.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
I forgot all about that, wow, okay.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Mm-hmm, red dirt, okay, red dirt nail spikes,
graveyard dirt, railroad spikes,you know what?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
I'm saying.
My thing is like what's thevalidity of all of this?
Like does this stuff work, youknow, have you seen any?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
it worked, it worked, it worked, it definitely works,
it works, it works because it'sit's.
It's you working, it's youworking the ethers man?
It works.
It's magic, it works.
Be beat, spells, be cases, itworks, it works, it works.

(39:48):
I can't validate it for you.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
You understand.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, the only way something of that nature could
be validated for you is youhaving your own infinite
experience, your own personalexperiences, with that science B
, but I can tell you that it'svery real, the science of the
ancestors.
You know, you may have walkedinto a house down south and you
see it, and you know they gotaltars in the house, got an

(40:17):
altar where you.
You might not call it an altar,but you may have seen a table
In somebody's house down southWith a whole bunch of pictures
of the family People who arepassed away, all on the table
Decorated, with a whole bunch ofpictures of the family people
who are passed away, all on atable decorated with a bunch of
little things all over thetables or whatever.
But ain't nobody on that tablepicture alive and you will never

(40:37):
see a person who's alive on atable with people who passed
away, because the altar is thealtar is a doorway.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Okay, explain that.
That altar is a doorway.
Okay, explain that part rightthere.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
You use your altar To open doors, spiritual doors,
astral doors, portal doors, andyou have to be careful with
mirrors, very careful withmirrors, especially old mirrors.
Never go, never go to anantique store and buy a mirror

(41:20):
from it.
Man, you see what I mean.
If you do, take that mirror andsit it outside in the sun for
about a day or so, man, two orthree days, man, so you can
clean it.
Cleanse it Because you got toremember how mirrors in ancient,
the old mirrors, were made, man.
The old mirrors were made withcertain types of ingredients

(41:41):
that can hold frequencies, soyou may look in the mirror and
somebody else's face show up,and the mirrors can also be
portals.
Things can come through themirror that's the thing I never.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
The only thing I experienced is what I explained
earlier.
But now, as far as likeenergies and all of that, like I
mean, I could say I'veexperienced some other weird
things too, but I don't know ifit was my eyes.

(42:16):
I don't know right, right.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
Well, you know frequencies, man.
Sometimes other other otherworldly entities use frequencies
and sounds and things to speakthrough, like white noise on a
TV when you the white noise oreven white noise on a radio.
Sometimes they also use yourlighting system, electricity

(42:41):
lights and shit.
They do a lot of work indifferent ways depending on what
you're working.
Know what you working on, man,Okay.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Okay, so as far as, like you know, quote, unquote,
spirits and things of thatnature, you know what's the
science with that, Like fromwhat I'm learning right, but I'm
what I'm gathering is that, um,these energies like so, if we

(43:13):
could look at it more, I waslike energy right.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Yeah, you can.
You can, I see that.
I can see that, like when youthink about the seven African
powers, or the Orishas, whatthey call them.
In Vodun, the Orishas, theseven African powers.
Or in Santeria, the sevenAfrican powers, or whatever,
ogun, yemaya, shango, oya, youknow, oshun?
You ever heard those namesbefore?
Yeah Right, so many people.

(43:38):
Some people teach that thesebeings actually live.
Some some teach that thesebeings actually live and that
they became ancestors and theybecame elemental forces.
Some people teach that theseseven African powers already
exist within you.
You understand, like theirfrequencies or energies that are

(44:00):
already a part of your makeup.
When you're using thesesciences, what you're doing is
you're drawing.
You're drawing that frequencyup or you're drawing it out.
It's already a part of you.
Quote unquote you know what I'msaying.
Like, you got seven chakras,seven African powers, seven
Elohim.
Are all of these things a partof you already?
You know what I'm sayingBecause you got to remember what

(44:22):
is the makeup of man, what isman and what is his physiology.
So why do we have a pituitarygland, a pineal gland and a
hypothalamus gland and why isthere three wise men in the book
?
And I just named three parts inyour brain.
You know I mean so.

(44:43):
A lot of things tie right backto you.
The biggest mystery is manhimself, but he's outside of his
own self seeking answers, whenthe whole mystery is his own
self.
Everything else is just anintroduction to you through
signs, symbolism and allegory,and stories with great names

(45:06):
that the initiate onlyunderstands and that the profane
mind don't get.
They just see it as a story.
But initiation makes adifference.
When you become initiated intocertain things, there's things
that come along with initiation,depending upon what schools of
thinking you're going into.
I mean, an initiate knowsthings that the average person

(45:27):
won't know.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
But no man or woman has ever come back to say, hey,
this thing exists, that exists.
So how do we deal with that?
What you mean?
Because we got people.
No man has come back from thedead.
Oh, come back from the dead,right.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
Well, you have people , quote unquote who have died
for two or three minutes andcame back know I'm saying, they
gave their little visions orwhatever.
Um, but what is death?
Because I'm, I'm taught, andfrom my studies I can't die.
I can, I can, I can, I canthrow my, I can throw my body
away, but I can't die.
There is no death.
The body disintegrates.

(46:12):
The body has a time constraintwith it.
Just like going to jail, youknow how you're in jail you're
behind the wall, you do goodtime behind the wall, you get
out and good things happen toyou from behind the wall because
you did your good time, youtransitioned, so on and so forth
.
Well, the body is a prison too,and we're behind the wall
because you did your good timeand you transitioned, and so on
and so forth.
Well, the body is a prison too,and we behind the wall with
this thing called body, and ifwe do good time in the body, and

(46:32):
when we released, there's othergood things happening.
For those who know, when you'rereleased, the more you gain
while you have this body in yourconsciousness, the more you
take with you when you leavethis body.
It's important to learn certainthings, so when you leave you
can use those things when yououtside of this form.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Uh, uh.
The God said uh, my uncle diedand came back to.
He said it was just black.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
That was his experience.
Other people, other people cameback and said it wasn't black,
it was other things, andeverybody's experience is
different.
So I've never been to thatpoint, I've never physically
tasted that what they call deathor the stopping of my heart.
I've never been to that point.
But what I have done is I'vebeen outside of my body numerous

(47:29):
times.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Astral projection is a very, very real thing and when
you actually project, you goplaces see, my thing is I I've
never experienced any of that,so that's why I'm so curious
about it, and I think that, youknow, doing a podcast on this on
a regular basis is important tokind of like.
I know there are certain thingsyou can't speak on.
You know, when you, when youbecome a part of this, um, um,

(47:53):
hold on, how do you do it?
Uh, oh, how do you do it?
I want to try it.
Yeah, me too, god, I want to, Iwant to learn, I want to figure
this out too, um, and I thinkthat the only way you can do
that is you have to kind of beinitiated into these ciphers and
things like that.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Well, action, projection is very, very easy.
I mean, we do it when we go tobed, you're doing it out of,
you're not able to control it,you call it dreaming, You're
projecting, you call it dreaming, you're projecting, you call it
dream, but your soul istraveling, bro, and we call it

(48:36):
dreams.
Now, be able to do thatconsciously, while you're awake,
where you don't have to go tosleep, where you lie through
meditation, breathing,visualization, and it's a wrap.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
This is a good one.
Just remember how to get backSomeone insane.
I hear this too a lot.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Well, because they didn't pay attention to the core
that they're attached to.
Your soul can never get lost,bro.
If you don't have knowledge,you may not know, but you're
going to come back to your body.
But, like you said, you maycome back a little off.
I mean, I mean, but nine timesout of ten when you ask to

(49:27):
project, you're going to see.
You're not going to go too far,you're not going to what's what
I'm looking for?
A person with knowledge of selfwill be fine actually projecting
.
Like I mean, I can't you know,and maybe I'm wrong, I don't
know, but I've never had aproblem getting back, ever,

(49:51):
because it's my, the home base,is my physical form.
It's sitting in in lotusposition somewhere and I'm,
without you know or laying orwhatever.
I'm off.
I'm going to come back to mysource.
How do you get lost, unless youtalk to an astral entity and
they take you?
You allow yourself to be talkedand taken somewhere.

(50:14):
Somewhere, you know, I mean,but that don't happen with me,
man so you actually seen astralentities yeah, who does, if you
actually?
yeah, you've seen them too inyour dream state.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Listen, man, in my dream state I saw something kind
of weird.
Like two weeks ago, a friend ofmine, a close friend of mine,
had a dream that I saw his dadsmoking a cigarette.
His dad is no longer with us.
Now I like yo, I ask, I say yo,did your pop smoke cigarettes?

(50:51):
He say yeah, my pop did smokecigarettes.
See, see.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
See, and that mean pop ain't dead either.
Pop somewhere enjoying acigarette.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
I don't know Cause that.
That situation Like Stuff, thatI see man, is kinda weird Like.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
Bro, that's.
That's why it's supposed to beweird For you, for you to make
sense of it Like, huh what, andyou just said it, bro, did your
pop smoke cigarettes?
Yeah, he did.
Why is you seeing his pops?
Man, well, what?
And you just said it, bro, didyour pop smoke cigarettes?
Yeah, he did.
Why is you seeing his pops?

Speaker 1 (51:30):
man.
Well, me and his brother justreconnected after not really
building with each other forLike, we always build, but we
haven't seen each other in aphysical in a while.
And we've seen each other in aphysical and then I would say,
matter of fact, before we evenseen each other in the physical,
I had this dream we after for awhile, and then you ran into

(51:55):
him and then I saw him in thephysical after that.
Yeah, okay.
So I don't know.
That's why I said like this, iswhy I'm curious about it, cause
I see some shit happening, bro.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
You're getting all types of answers, bro.
You're getting all types ofconfirmations.
You want somebody to just walkthrough your door, b Like you
just sit in your living room andsomebody just like, walk
through the door.
Not open it up and walk, butjust come through the door.
If you see that you'll be allright, what?

Speaker 1 (52:28):
I'm doing for you.
Somebody got to come throughand say yo, we here.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah, you know, if you wake up at night, you know
you may go to bed.
Wake up and your grandmother isin front of your bed Like boy.
What more do you need?
You know what I'm saying?
Like we here, all you got to dois talk.
Call us.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
Another weird thing happened.
Another weird thing.
I'm not on no spooky, I'm justlike Bro, you're not spooky at
all.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
I fully understand what you're coming for.
It's not spooky brother, thisis another thing that happened.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
I now my sister died years ago, right, and um, I'm
just like you know.
I'm like I'm thinking about mysister.
I'm thinking about my sister,right, and I'm like you know
what man, I went to her gravesite one time.

(53:19):
One time since she's been gone,I said, yo, I want to go a
second time.
You know what, let me pick thisSunday, right.
I'm like yo, ma I want to go toDeshaun Gravesite this Sunday.
She said, you know what, thisSunday is right.

(53:39):
I'm like, nah, this Sunday isher death's anniversary.
I'm like, what, like this, likestuff like this is kind of I
don't know man.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Bro, she hit your sister.
Hit you, bro, she hit you up.
That's why you start thinkingshe hit you.
Your sister hit you up, man.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
I don't know bro.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
I'm just trying to figure this shit out though bro,
I'm gonna tell you, all I'mgonna say is this we don't die,
bro, we don't die, we don't die.
It's not the final leaving.
The physical form is not thefinal.
It's not the final destination,man, it's not think about.

(54:27):
Think about the history.
Final destination, man, it'snot.
Think about the history of yourancient ancestors before any
religion.
Think about in all theindigenous religions, or not
even in religion, but all theindigenous cultures they deal

(54:48):
with ancestral worship andgratitude and ancestral
reverence.
They even do spiritual ritualsand initiations and rituals
around, going to the ancestralland, in the spirit world to
speak to their ancestors, kindof like how your boy did in

(55:12):
Wakanda movie when he went backand was talking to the ancestors
and they were all standingthere and he was in the spirit
world.
That's our reality.
There is no white dude inheaven sitting around with a
list saying okay, oh good, yougo to the left, you go to the

(55:34):
right, checking people's namesoff, saying he was good, you did
good, and all that type ofstuff.
So we have to learn to get backto that, our ancestral sciences,
man, because this is where wewill become Strong again, man,
because chasing after thestrange idols Of different
nations of people has gotten uswhere Nowhere.

(55:59):
How does those who were Onceworshipped Become worshippers?
Something happened along theway.
We gave up some of our ownthings to do something else and

(56:23):
in the process, you gave yoursoul away.
Man, when you give up yourspiritual, when you give up your
source energy, it's a wrap.
Drop your God to pick upanother God, the God of your
people.
For 10,000 years, you drop thatdeity to pick up another God of
your foreign enemies and youbask in it.

(56:46):
There's a consequence to pay,man.
There's a consequence to pay.
We have to go back to what ourancestors left for us, man.
We got to go back to thoseindigenous sciences.
Your moms was doing voodoo.
You've been around it all yourdamn.
You've been around it all yourlife, bro.
And that's when we miss things,when we're around it all your

(57:08):
damn.
You've been around it all yourlife, bro.
And that's when we miss things,when we around it all our lives
, because it's just so normal.
We just, you know, I mean, it'sjust that's what mom do.
That's what mom do.
Yeah, it ain't nothing.
I mean we don't think about itbecause it's just because it's
just around us.
You know I'm saying but it'saround you and it's been around
you, so it's, it's on it's, it'son your dna, it's on you, man,
and as time progresses you willcome into this working

(57:32):
information.
You will come into it as youare.
You're being led, you're beingguided.
Right now, bro, I'm not talkingabout by me.
You're being guided.
You're going to be guided rightto these sciences.
You're being guided.
That's why your interest isthere.
That's why you, all of a sudden, you got an interest in the
occult and all of these things.

(57:53):
You know why?
Because you've mastered aparticular rudimentary science
already.
You understand the science ofinitiation, in a sense because
you're God.
You had to manifest 120.
You had to know the supremealphabet.
You had to know the suprememath.
You had to manifest 120.
You had to know the SupremeGovernment.
You had to know the SupremeMath.
You had to be able to recitethose with an understanding.
You had to be able to go to 0to 9.
You had to do that.

(58:14):
That's an initiation.
So you're an initiate in onescience already.
You're an initiate in a numberof other sciences, martial
sciences.
You're an initiate, so you'rean initiate, so you, you're an
initiate in in sciences alreadynow the thing is, whatever
martial arts that you areinitiated in, find the spirit

(58:36):
side of those arts, find that'swhat I've been trying to do.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
I've been asking questions, I've been saying like
so you know, because you know,with Khalid PTK, I'm like so
what did they like?
What was their spiritual side?

Speaker 2 (58:54):
I'm going to tell you why hold up For TD Tertia.
That's with Leo Gaji, right?
Yep, leo Gaji.
If I'm not mistaken, he's aChristian, I think so.
So he's not going to tell youabout Antin.
He's not going to tell youabout the sorcerer.
He's not going to tell youthose things because he's a

(59:14):
Christian.
So you're going to miss thatwith him.
I'm giving you something rightnow.
Write this word down.
Get a pen and write this worddown.
All right, you ready?
Yeah, I'm going to spell it foryou.
A-n-t-i-n-g One word.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
A-N-T-I-N-G Say that word, anting Say it twice.
Anting, Anting.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Look Anting Anting up Right now.
Do it.
If you can't write quick, Lookit up.
Google it real fast, Alright,and read it.
And read the definition of it,Read what it says.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
The term Anting Can refer to two distinct things.
One Anting Behavior this refersto two distinct things.
One anting behavior this refersto the maintenance behavior
observed in birds and somemammals like squirrels, where
they rub insects.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
No, put collie next to it, Like put anting, anting,
put Anting, put Kali, put magic,or Anting Arnie's magic.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
Oh, here it is now.
Oh, you said Anting, Anting.
Okay, I just put Anting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
So Anting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Anting is a Filipino term for amulets or charms often
believed to possess magicalproperties and protective powers
.
It's also a system of Filipinofolk magic and sorcery that
utilizes these amulets.
These items, ranging fromsimple objects like stones or

(01:01:02):
dried fruit to more elaboratependants, are thought to offer
protection, strength and evenprosperity to the wearer.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Yep, yep.
And you see that in a lot ofsystems I just mentioned to you
about Grigori bags and Mojo bags, mojo bags in hoodoo, yeah, you
know what I'm saying.
So this is universal scienceAmulets, talismans worn on the
body, you know what I'm saying.

(01:01:33):
Making the body the triangle.
Yes, yes, yeah, kali, thetriangle.
So, and that's Filipinoipino.
Indonesia has sorcery, javanesesorcery, that's connected to

(01:01:54):
the sea lock.
You understand what I mean.
I'm creating a system, thegraveyard system of my combat,
connected with hoodoo,visualization and harufisms and
other things.
B?
B, you know what I'm saying.
So it's time, man, like it'stime, to do these things.
We slipping Hold on.

(01:02:17):
I'll call back.
It's my daughter.
I'll call back.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Well, I was just about to say we're an hour in.
Oh, okay, we're an hour in.
Your daughter called at theright time.
Thank you for coming out thisevening.
Really appreciate you.
We're going to do Wizards,warlocks, spooks and Holy Ghosts
again A call the next timeyou're up.
Alternate Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
All right, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
All right, we're going to just keep building on
this and go in depth on this andI'll come back with some with
some findings.
All right, yeah, yeah, do that.
Indeed Peace to everybody inthe chat.
I really appreciate y'all andwe are out of here.
Peace, peace you.

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