February 27, 2025 • 52 mins
Welcome To The Oddity Shop, Where The Bizarre is Always on Sale. This week, your curator Kara has a tale that will have you checking your email inbox for spooky messages
Ever wondered if your tech gadgets could bridge the gap between the digital world and the afterlife? Our journey takes a curious twist as we tackle the tech challenges of setting up YouTube TV for Kara's parents, navigating the minefield of passwords and updates with comedic flair. But what's tech without a hint of the paranormal? We ponder whether spirits could hack emails, just like humans do, and share real stories of mysterious emails that blur the line between ghost tales and phishing scams. Could the digital age be the new frontier for afterlife communication? It's enough to make you question your email inbox!
As we wrap up, the enigma of emails from beyond unfolds, revealing personal stories of comfort and connection that defy logic. From considering the ethical implications of a dead man's switch to quirky tales of receiving messages from deceased loved ones, we explore the heartwarming and eerie sides of these experiences.
And for our fellow oddballs, there's a playful nudge to join our community on Patreon, where more exclusive content awaits. So, grab your headphones and "creep it real" with us at the Oddity Shop.
References:
- https://www.getastra.com/blog/security-audit/phishing-attack-statistics/
- https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2012/03/ghostwriter-mysterious-emails-sent-from-beyond-the-grave
- https://www.reddit.com/r/RBI/comments/1hymmip/i_got_an_email_from_a_deceased_friend/
- https://medium.com/of-misdeeds-and-mysteries/the-messages-from-beyond-eaca3fe7ac25
- https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/so-supernatural/id1500667648?i=1000668583799
- https://www.reddit.com/r/Ghosts/comments/1c2w5jg/i_just_received_an_email_from_my_dead_dad/
Each Week at the Oddity Shop, Your Curators Kara and Zach will bring you Creepy, Strange, Weird Bizarre Stories from around the globe!
GET TICKETS TO HAUNTERS AGAINST HATE EVENT:
The Shop's phone lines are open! Give us a call and leave a voicemail (Or two!) with your creepy personal tale/oddity, and it could be featured on a future episode!
616.320.4935
JOIN US ON PATREON: Click Here!
Join the Oddity Shop on Patreon for Day Early Access to Episodes and tons of bonus content!!!
Visit our Website to learn more!
Email Us at: oddityshoppodcast.com
www.OddityShopPodcast.com
Disclaimer: This post contains affiliate links. Affiliate programs are designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertisin
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
I want to dance with the mothman At the IA shop,
baked in the moonlight At the IAshop.
Creep through the graveyard Tothe IA shop.
The door's always open At theIity Shop.
(00:47):
What's up, oddballs?
Welcome back to the Oddity Shop, the podcast, where we tell you
all the creepy, odd, weird,strange and bizarre stories from
around the globe.
I am one of your two curators,zachary, sitting here with the
(01:10):
lovely, gorgeous, amazing oneyear freshly older, but doesn't
look a day over 21 years oldthank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you, you're welcomeyou're welcome, welcome.
I feel like you've been givingme some like really great intros
for a while, so I needed to doa gas you up one you need to up
it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, it was recently my day of birth.
It was.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I think that was one of my favorite birthday parties
and, honestly, you and I at thisparty fought for the guest's
attention from a Lions game thateveryone thought was going to
be a huge game, and I think wedid good pretending that we knew
what was going on with sport.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh, actually, that's because we didn't care, we
didn't even entertain, we didn'tacknowledge the game.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I sat with my face looking at the game and then at
one point you look over.
You're like are you OK?
I just hold up my phone like,yeah, I'm looking at pictures of
puppies, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, it was funny because that was actually my
birthday that day, so and it wasa Saturday.
So I'm like hello, it has to beon that.
And then I invited everybody,you know, like a couple weeks
prior, and then, slowly, as itgot closer, people are like,
yeah, but will the game be on?
And like I'm just like I mean,I'm not that dumb, but I wanted
to be like what game?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Right, I actually was pretty much like what game?
Until you all explained it tome.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Literally every single person that I got invited
that day or the night beforewas like, well, is the game
going to be on?
And I'm like, oh my God, I'llhave the fucking game on.
I get, I love hosting and Ilove having people over, but I
do get a little bit anxiousbecause I feel like I have to
entertain everybody, even thoughI know that that's not true and
these are all just like myclosest friends that literally
can just sit at the table andjust talk to each other.
(02:46):
But when you're having likesome sort of like party or event
or whatever, like you feel likeyou know what I mean Like you
want to entertain.
So it's kind of nice, though,because half of the people were
just like entertainingthemselves with the game, and
then some of us were justchatting and listening to music
and just, you know, drinking,smoking, doing some things.
Like I thought it was fun, Ithink it was super chill, it was
like it was kind of perfect,and then the whole day before
(03:07):
that, I literally slept in and Itexted you.
I said I don't want to get upyet.
You said sleeping girl, andthen we had the chillest day.
That was the day of your party.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
We had the chillest day.
People didn't come over tillfive.
You ran all my errands.
Thank you so much.
I love you.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I was going to go get food anyway, so I'm like yeah,
but you went to Kroger twice.
Oh, I know you so well, right,and I know like and this isn't a
dig, no, but I don't care aboutaesthetics of things and I know
sometimes you do.
So I was tasked with gettingbirthday candles for a cake and
you wanted to take a reallyspecific, really awesome picture
(03:42):
.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
This is what's funny, though, is, I told myself,
because I was going to go getthe candles and I was going to
do all this stuff, but I wasjust tired.
I had a little bit too much todrink with you the night before.
Not, you didn't drink, I didjust because you and I just
hadn't seen each other in awhile.
So I was feeling a little yuckyand I was mad at myself for it.
But whatever, it doesn'tfucking matter.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It doesn't fucking matter.
So I didn't even give you anydirection.
You told yourself yes and youdidn't give me direction.
I went through the valentine'sday aisle, the card and party
aisle, the uh baking aisle.
Everyone had a differentselection of candles and I'm
like what I wanted?
Because it was a black cake andI know you love beetlejuice.
I wanted something with greencandles, oh that would be no
multi-pack.
No, anything had green candles.
Then I'm like, okay, straightwhite candles, no, they only had
(04:31):
the twisty ones.
I'm like, okay, I'm gonna getthose.
But then I found one withoff-white and gold.
I'm like, okay, I'm gonna getthose two.
But then there are sparklercandles.
So I'm like I'm gonna get thosetwo, but then, like this blue
one might work instead of green.
I think I came home with fouror five packs of candles.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, it might have been three or four, maybe four,
I think it was four.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, and I was just like, oh my God, You're like
well, I didn't know Literallyother than your birthday party,
though I don't have much to talkabout.
And can I also just talk aboutsomething else that happened at
your party that had everybodydying Sure.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Okay, so for those of you who don't know?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Kara is like the tchotchke queen.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, don't say tchotchke Hold on.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, let me, I was going to fix it.
Okay, not just like uselesstchotchkes you do find very
useful.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Well, hold on, because what I'm saying is
tchotchke.
When you say the term tchotchke, people think of like old
ladies with shelves full of justlittle shit everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
That is okay it's like little appliances, little
like, yeah, very specific useitems they're just like okay.
So she starts off, though, withbringing out her ring cleaner,
and she's like, and honestlylike, you're making
recommendations because you wantyour friends to like have
things that you love.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, this is what's funny is, I've never realized
I've done this ever in my life.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
You've always been this way a little bit, but it
wasn't to this extent.
So she had everyone put theirrings and glasses in the ring
cleaner.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It actually started off with the ninja slushie,
because I was making us allslushies and everyone's like, oh
my god, that is so cool.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And so I'm just talking about it because I have
it then then the like theacupuncture mat came out, the
mopper came out, and you'regiving everybody like these
product demos and having themall try it, everything.
And at one point I look overand me and emily are like when
is the catalog going to come out?
Like, is this a pampered chefthing?
Is she trying?
So you're like, but it was sofunny because it felt like one
(06:27):
of those like multi-levelmarketing, like Tupperware
parties but you weren't tryingto actually sell us anything.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And the funniest part was is that it was all organic.
It all came up organicallybecause I was literally looking,
shauna went to grab a piece ofsomething like a food and it
like her ring was shining undermy light, I was like, girl, oh
my God, it looks so beautiful.
And I was like we got to get youone of those sonic cleaners,
cause she goes, oh, I just gotit clean from the jeweler.
I said we got to get you asonic cleaner.
She's like does it work?
Well, I said let me grab mine.
(06:53):
And then I'm like everybody putyour rings and I'm putting
people'sie on the floor.
So I'm like let me go get mysteam mop.
And I'm steam mopping.
Everyone's like that's so cool.
And I'm like, yeah, it's great.
I mean I had already made Emilybuy that.
Emily already purchased.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I can't even remember what like the last one was.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The acupuncture mat.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Because there was something at the very tail end
of the night where you started.
You finally caught yourselfbecause you started.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You're like oh my God , I'm doing it again.
That's right, because then Iwas like I'll send everybody
links of everything.
I'm going to make you aspreadsheet.
But I don't, you're right, Idon't remember what the last one
was.
But anyway, now I'm like, oh myGod, I'm like I'm not afraid,
but this morning I was textingZach right away this morning, or
no.
I'm like, dang, you really needto get this walking pad,
(07:43):
because I just edited ourpatreon videos and typed an
episode and I walked for twohours I'm like it's amazing with
a standing desk.
And then I'm like I'm nottrying to sell you this, I am
just suggesting.
And then I sent him the linkand I'm like, wow, I am crazy
you, you truly missed yourcalling to be on qvc.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I think like for sure maybe I should have those
parties okay.
I Okay, I think we're way toofar into this.
I don't have anything else totalk about.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
What's on your?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
mind before we open the shop.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I don't have anything else really Cool, and I don't
really have a question for you.
I'm sorry, but well, I guessI'll ask you this.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I feel like I don't even know how to open the shop.
Okay, I do have a question.
I'm going to Okay.
Okay, do you want to know how Ispent?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
my Tuesday morning slash afternoon.
How did you spend your Tuesdaymorning slash afternoon?
Okay, I spent two hours tryingto help my parents get YouTube
TV.
Oh no, okay, so I create anaccount with mom's email on on
my Mac, right, because I'mFaceTiming this woman.
Okay, and it's morning.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
There is nothing worse than trying to set up
electronics.
It's hard Remotely.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So here's the thing they wanted to do the trial of
YouTube TV.
Because we have YouTube TV andthey want to down.
They don't watch a lot ofwhatever, it doesn't matter.
So I'm trying to help them andI'm like, wait, they can't
create this account, it's gonnabe too hard.
So I'm on my Mac creating theYouTube TV account right with
her email.
Okay, via FaceTime, yeah, we'rejust, yeah, okay.
(09:15):
So then I get to the part tohave them download the YouTube
TV app on their TV and the appsays that it needs an update.
So I'm like, okay, I'mFaceTiming them and listen this,
my, I love my mother so much,but she's warbling all around.
I can barely see my stepdad andthe TV.
I'm like I can't see whatyou're doing.
Sit down, just sit down andface the TV.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Plus, as much as Google, products are great as
soon as one part starts toupdate, especially with the TV,
for whatever reason it freaksout.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So this is LG.
Okay, so this is what happens.
So the TV needs an update.
The so the TV needs an update.
The YouTube TV app on the LGneeds an update.
They don't have an LG accountor whatever, and it's saying
that they need that.
It's required now to downloadthe update to this app.
Okay, so then I log in on, I'mon my Mac and I create her an LG
account with my mom's Gmail.
(09:58):
Because I'm like I'm makingeverything easy.
I have a picture, I have allher passwords written down for
every account and I'm like but Ididn't do that.
So who the hell did that?
Because I'm like what?
So I'm like, okay.
So then I do forgot passwordCause.
(10:18):
Then my stepdad's like you knowwhat Maybe we did when we first
got this TV?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
literally nine years ago Right and just forget about
it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, okay, so I do forgot password and I get that
figured out and then I go tosign in right, you'd let me
reset the password.
And I go to sign in and itfucking says your LG account was
used for a Taiwan LG account.
You need to delete the Taiwanaccount first.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Okay, I sat there for way longer than I ever wanted
to, with which I will tell you.
This is really cool, and I'mnot selling anything but the
Google translate app.
No, the Google translate app.
Now you know you can put thecamera button on, but all you
have to do is hover over.
You don't take pictures.
So I'm literally hovering overmy laptop screen, still on
FaceTime with my damn momreading this shit, spent 30
(11:01):
minutes doing that, and then I'mlike you know what it's got to
be my brother.
I get a hold of my brother.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
He's three hours, you know, behind, or oh, I didn't
even think about him, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Oh my God.
So I get a hold of him and I'mlike, hey, did you use mom's LG
account in Taiwan?
And he's like I have no ideawhy I would ever use an LG
account and I was in Taiwan inlike 2016.
So I don't think so, but maybe,but I can't help you.
So I'm like fuck it.
So then I create mom asecondary email just so I can
make a fucking new LG account.
(11:30):
Okay, all right.
Then I get the fucking LG appupdated, finally, cool.
And I go on my computer and Isign up for the free trial for
YouTube TV and I log in and itsays you're unable to use the
free trial oh my god I said didyou guys already try to do this?
and my stepdad goes, yeah, butwe couldn't get it to work so
they already wasted their freetrial.
(11:51):
So I'm like no big deal, I havea secondary email that I now
created.
I didn't want to use thesecondary email because that's
more confusing.
But then I'm like fuck it.
So I do that, and then I go allthe way through and it's like
tied to the same card and itkept saying you can't, it's
already on file type deal Likeyou can't have a free trial.
And then I literally said fuckit.
And after two hours of doingthis they didn't even get their
(12:12):
free trial.
And watch them, not even watchthis.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
No, they won't.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Okay, so anyway, okay .
Then I started thinking aboutwhy someone would use like her
email in Taiwan.
I'm like just for like just forlike the LG app.
Like, but like.
Why would you do that?
Like what else would you needthat for?
Because my brother is like it'snot, it's not me, he's like I.
Really, why would you ever usean LG app?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
yeah, you wouldn't, unless you had the product for
sure right, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So I'm like, if that's the worst that they did,
though me and my brother likefuck it, who cares, right.
But then it like got methinking about like hacking.
And then that got me thinkingof like the statistics of email
hacking.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I literally thought you were just going on like a
sidebar story about your mom,like I don't have a question, so
I didn't realize this tied intothe episode.
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So, according to Astracom, 55% of phishing
websites use targeted brandnames to capture sensitive
information ease.
According to the F5 labsphishing and fraud report of
2020, which makes sense, causeyou know how you always get
those ads that look like the um,the wherever you're shopping,
and then, once you click it, youdon't notice that the website
is actually different.
They're good.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So I almost got one that was super well done.
It looked like Apple and it wasright.
After that whole, you had toaccept the terms and conditions
for iCloud to work.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
It was an email saying I didn't do it and I
almost fell for it, and I'musually pretty good about the
phishing stuff, yeah, but it'shard I mean they're getting good
84% of US-based organizationshave stated that conducting
regular security awarenesstraining has helped reduce the
rate to which employees fall forprey, and my company does this
all the time.
(13:57):
They'll send out a fakephishing email and see who opens
it and then, as soon as youopen it, you literally have 24
hours to complete a trainingabout phishing.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
That's so funny.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So phishing scams, scam accounts, oh my God.
Phishing scams account fornearly 22% of all data breaches
that occur, which is just likeit's like the most prevalent
cybercrime.
In the FBI's 2021 IC report, Isee three part, which is just
that's actually low I I I guessI could go both ways.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I guess, yeah, 22 does seem low for that I guess
though I don't know enough aboutall the other kinds of hacking
to yeah, uh, in 2021, it wasnearly 83 of companies
experienced phishing hacks yepand then 36 of all data breaches
involve phishing, according toVerizon's 2022 report, and it
was estimated that by 2022,ransomware or phishing attack
(14:52):
will occur every 11 seconds.
One of my friends who works forquite a large corporation, I
think during 2020,.
They got literally shut downfor almost a week from a
phishing ransomware scam thatgot into everything.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's so crazy.
At 16%, phishing was the secondmost reason for data breaches
and the closest or the costliest, averaging $4.990 million in
breach costs.
And one of the most expensivephishing attacks was through
compromised emails, with around19,000 complaints having a loss
(15:26):
of 1.8 billion.
Oh my God, okay, so that I justyou know it's going down this
rabbit hole.
So definitely easy and commonto have one of your accounts
hacked, especially like throughyour email.
So then it got me thinking.
We have after death phone calls, we have Ouija boards, spirit
boxes and other equipment anditems that we use to talk to the
dead.
So if we can hack into emails,then why can't the dead?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Are you saying hack the Ouija board or hack the
email?
The email, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
A spirit box works by rapidly scanning through
various radio frequencies, right, so essentially acting like a
radio scanner that continuouslymoves between stations without
stopping and with the idea thatspirits can manipulate those
frequencies to create audiblewords or phrases, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Right, like kind of through the white noise.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And then, according to the theory behind the Ovilus,
spirits are thought tocommunicate by subtly altering
environmental fields, which thedevice then interprets as
changes and translates wordsinto pre-programmed database.
So essentially like speakingenvironmental fields, which the
device then interprets aschanges and translates words
into pre-programmed database.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
so essentially like speaking the obvious, that's the
one that it is like the wordquiet spirit box that says words
okay yeah, it just says thewords so if spirits can
manipulate, like through allthat like, why can't they
manipulate the email waves andall that shit?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
right, it makes sense , I know.
So I'm excited.
You might have heard of thisone, but it has been one that
has already been on my list andin my brain.
But once I started going downthis spiral of all this stuff,
I'm like, oh, my god, this kindof like correlates.
Okay, so let's talk a bit aboutour main character.
(17:01):
Okay, and his name is jackfroice.
Okay, jack, according to hismother, is a sensitive,
kind-hearted and unique 32 yearold from pennsylvania, and when
we start with a description likethat, we know that
unfortunately, they died did healso lit up the room right?
yeah, okay so, in june 2011,jack unexpectedly unexpectedly
(17:26):
died from a heart arrhythmia and, according to the Cleveland
clinic, a heart arrhythmia, ifyou didn't know, is a heart
rhythm that isn't normal.
Your heart may be beating toofast when you're at rest or just
not beating at a regularpattern, and they range from
being like serious to harmless.
So some people don't even havesymptoms, and it's an estimated
1.5 to 5% of people have heartarrhythmias.
(17:49):
Okay, and then, kind of like Isaid, though, because you don't
have symptoms, it does make itdifficult to like estimate how
many people actually have it,and because I love all of you
guys, I'm going to give you somesymptoms so that you can be
aware.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh, time for self-diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Heart arrhythmia symptoms may include heart
palpitations, dizziness,lightheadedness, faint episodes,
shortness of breath, chestdiscomfort, weakness or fatigue.
And for the curious, arrhythmiacauses include coronary heart
disease, irritable tissue inyour heart, high blood pressure,
changes in your heart, valvedisorders.
(18:27):
You know, blah, blah, blah,blah.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I love you, but I'm sorry to tell you that you would
never cut it in pharmaceuticalcommercials.
That was way too slow to rattleall that off.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Oh God.
So basically, the healingprocess can be heart surgery or,
like I said, it might not evenbe serious.
Okay, so he didn't know he hadit.
It was tragic 32 years old, ugh, too young, I know.
So, again, we sadly lost himand it's sad, but that's why
we're here, sad, depressingthings.
(18:56):
Okay, so we know that we neverlike get over death of a loved
one.
We know that.
But as time moves on, you know,so do our lives and we kind of
better accept it.
So five months after a death, Iwould say, is still fresh,
absolutely, but you're probablylike been trying to like get
back into your routine and yourlife as best as you can, but
(19:17):
that's still not a lot of time.
So can you imagine, five monthsafter losing your childhood
best friend, he emails you.
No, because that's exactly whathappened to Tim Hart.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah Well, I figured that's where we were going with
this.
All right, tell us about Tim.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Tim told the BBC one night in November.
I was sitting on my couch goingthrough my emails on my phone
and it popped up Sender Jack.
I turned ghost white and I readit.
The subject line I'm watching,oh, I just got chills, yeah.
So then, referring to thecontext in the email, tim stated
(19:55):
it was a very quick and short,but to a point that only Jack
and I could relate.
And this is what the email saidDid you hear me?
I'm at your house, clean yourfucking attic.
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Clean the attic.
That is the absolute firstthing I'm doing.
Actually, I'm just going tomake sure he's not hiding in the
attic.
Yeah, my head would start toplay games with me Also.
This um, it kind of reminds meof the calls from beyond the
grave that we did about thepeople who did the phone calls
or receiving phone calls.
That's kind of why I said, likeif they can do all that, why
(20:30):
couldn't you know?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So, if that's not really like weird or creepy
enough for you, days before Jackdied he was actually in Tim's
attic.
The two were discussing whatneeds to be done to finish it
and, as it was like really dirty, unfinished addict, jack had
made comments along the lines oflike dusting or sweeping it
before he would even begin tohelp do anything.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I kind of love that though, because like that makes
the message really Exactly, it'sless random or like somebody
got into the email, or somethinglike that.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's personal, but not so personal that like it's
just yeah, so as this was aprivate conversation, it was
just with friends.
Like it makes it more unlikelyto be a prank, like you were
just saying, or like a hacker.
Like you could say that maybeJack's told somebody about his
experience in his friend's attic, or that Tim said something
about being in his friend'sattic, but like why would either
one of them be like oh yeah, Iwas up in Tim's attic today and
I told him it was dusty, or likeyeah.
(21:32):
Jack told me my attic was dusty.
It's just such a weird thing torandomly tell anybody else for
it to then be them to say it'sjust ad.
So yes, there are like reallycruel and fucked up people in
the world, but like why sendthat if you were hacking the
account?
It's just so pointless to me Ilike, if it was somebody hacking
it like why, what?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't know it would just be kind of a pointless
hack.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah yeah, jimmy, or jim mcgraw, jack's cousin, grew
up more as a brother to jack andhe received a november email.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Oh, wait, remind me, when did uh tim get his email?
June, november november, okay,june is when he passed.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So this is a little bit later, in november, I think
it was like a couple weeks, uh,or like the end of nove.
I think the other ones made thebeginning.
It was a couple of weeks, partGotcha, and I've got obviously
from no other, no one other thanJack, subject of this one.
I knew you were going to breakyour ankle.
Tried to warn.
You Got to be careful.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I'm guessing his ankle.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A week prior to Jim getting this email, he broke his
ankle on his way to work, likewalking outside of his house on
his way to work.
He broke his ankle on his wayto work, like walking outside of
his house on his way to work.
And then basically he said,aside from like his, like family
, like a few family and some ofthe friends, nobody knew about
this accident, like he didn'treally tell anybody.
Yeah, that's wild.
If somebody that also happensalready emailed him, then was
(22:58):
like.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So now you would have to know about both things if
you were a hacker.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Right, such weird little things that, yeah, and I
guess you could be like well, ifyou, if I told my mom I broke
my ankle, she's probably goingto tell 500 people, so that's a
little bit easier to say thatlike, I'm sure somebody could
have found more out about hisbroken ankle than the attic, but
still, it's something sofucking weird that I just don't
know why you would fuck withsomebody with that.
(23:22):
No, it makes no sense.
So Tim had actually replied backto his, like he emailed a
follow up, but he didn't get aresponse and Jim just stated I'd
like to say Jack sent it, justbecause I look at it as he's
gone, but he's still trying toconnect with me, trying to tell
me to move on, to feel better.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I mean one that's really cute and comforting, to
get from beyond the grave too.
But like I also feel kind ofwhat you're saying, where we're
talking about the phone calls,like it almost has to be easier
to manipulate a keyboard or acomputer than it would a phone
call or some of the othermessages.
Like it doesn't seem like.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Are you manipulating the keyboard?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh, I'm sorry, I mean like for a spirit to manipulate
an electronic written wordrather than spoken word in their
own voice.
So I argument for spirit, notsomebody manipulating.
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
So Patty Jack's mother said I saw they made
people happy.
They made some upset, but I seeit as people were still talking
about him and then Patty alsosaid like was quoted saying
think what you want about it orjust accept them as a gift.
I think that, regardless of howthese emails happened, the most
(24:35):
important thing to take away isjust that sometimes there
doesn't need to be anexplanation for everything,
primarily when it can serve tohelp bring comfort to you after
a loss.
Whatever the meaning is to takefrom something like this is to
accept it and to move to abetter place.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I agree so much with that.
Especially when it comes togrief, you can rack your brain
trying to figure out ifsomething was real or not right,
but whether in that moment it'sreal or not, if it brought you
comfort, the feelings of comfortare real, so let it be real to
you.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, and then Tim said like he doesn't mind, even
if he found out the emails werejust a prank from somebody who,
like, hacked into his old emailaccount.
If somebody's joking around, Idon't care because I take it
what I take it, whatever way Iwant, the mysterious emails are
still unsolved because, like I,like I said, jack's loved ones
kind of just accepted it as asign from him.
(25:29):
There are some articles and oneinterview that I watched with
both of them and his mom.
One of them does say that therewere others, but I don't think
those others wanted to comeforward.
Yeah, and there was no mentionof what any of those emails said
did they have screenshots ofthe ones that?
yes it did talk about, okay,yeah it's implied that more
(25:52):
people got emails from him andthey were just as like weird,
like this, uh, but I don't knowwhat they say.
No one's like reported on them.
But I was racking my brain likefor other explanations is like
what?
Like why was nobody else liketalked to about this, like his
mom?
His mom didn't get one.
She was one that didn't likebut other than like loved ones,
(26:12):
just like checking in frombeyond, like the two guys, like
I don't know.
I'm just like it's so weird tome because the two guys have
mentioned like could havementioned the addict broken his
ankle and then someone pulledthis prank.
But, like I said before, likewhat was the person like purpose
?
Like what are they?
What would they gain?
Right, and like, if you'repranking, this is bad, but like,
if you're pranking, wouldn'tyou then like respond to the
(26:35):
reply to tim?
Like, unless you're like reallytrying to creep him out, but
you think you'd really like fuckwith him a little bit yeah,
like you, you'd keep the rusegoing for me it kind of right if
we think about evps or other umevidence we get from beyond the
grave.
It's never a full back and forthconversation, snippets it's
yeah, it's when you can musterthe energy, so maybe and then I
(26:58):
but I do think that if it was acruel prank because if this is a
prank that is really cruel oh,you're gonna email his two, like
his best friends or his cousin,like.
But I was thinking, if you arethat cruel to do that, wouldn't
you fucking email more people oremail his mother?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
yeah so, unless you really hated just these two
individuals, I don't know Idon't know, but there was also
nothing malicious they weren'tgaining, so like if they were
trying to get information ortrying to make that person upset
or something like.
Then I could see more of theargument.
But like why, why would you dothis as a prank, without follow?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
up.
That's why I'm just confused, Idon't know.
Another thought was Jack couldhave future scheduled these
emails, true, but that doesn'texplain how he would know that
his cousin was going to breakhis ankle, yeah.
And like, why would hepre-schedule an email?
It's not like he knew he wasdying.
And like, why emails?
Because you can pre-scheduletexts which would just be so
(27:54):
much easier to your loved onesthan, like, they're likely to
miss an email.
They're not going to miss atext.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Honestly, if I like was dying, that's the shit I
would probably do is likeschedule stuff out.
But yeah, like you said you,you can't predict the because
the the ankle injury, like surethat could explain the first one
.
But it was also a freakaccident, the way he died or not
, that's what I'm saying, yeahhe didn't know.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So it's like, yeah, and I could really see like
randomly emailing you and beinglike fucking clean your attic.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Right, you know what I mean.
Like, even like.
Oh dude, if I like had a couplemonths, and they're like, hey,
you're dying the way, I wouldmess with you.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
All right, well, here we go.
So there's a website calleddeadmanswitchnet and, if you
don't know, a dead man switch isa switch that is designed to be
activated or deactivated if thehuman operator becomes
incapacitated, such as throughdeath.
So this could be for, likegovernment people that are like
(28:51):
you know.
It could be for anything, it'sjust like that's called a dead
man switch, like if I getknocked out, this switch, blah,
blah, blah.
You get what I mean, but thewebsite is also called that, so
let me read you the gist of thewebsite.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Because I think you're gonna like it.
So this is what this is all thewebsite says why Bad things
happen.
Sometimes they happen to you.
If something does happen, youmight wish there was something
you had told the people aroundyou how you feel, what you
regret, what you wish you hadsaid.
Or maybe you just want to makesure your pets are taken care of
promptly.
(29:25):
For that you need a dead man'sswitch.
How this is how it works.
You write a few emails andchoose the recipient, recipients
recipients.
These emails are storedprivately until they're sent.
Your switch will email youevery so often, asking you to
show that you are fine byclicking a link If something
(29:47):
were to happen.
Your switch would then send theemails you wrote to the
recipients you specified, sortof an electronic will.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You could say oh, I am not consistent enough with
checking my emails.
Oh my God, I'd write like somelike like tell all secret stuff.
And then it's just like no, Iwas just camping for a weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I should have looked.
I should have asked Reddit ifanyone has done a dead man
switch and then didn't die.
So then.
The next one, though, is when?
So notifications are sent atcertain intervals by email,
telegram or browser pushnotifications.
You can set the intervals towhatever you want, from one day
to years.
By default, the switch willnotify you 30, 45, and 52 days
(30:34):
after you last showed signs oflife.
If you don't respond to any ofthose notifications, all your
messages will be sent 60 daysafter your last check-in.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Okay, so this is not like an instant thing.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, of course you can have your switch postpones
its activation, like you know,if you're on vacation or
whatever, by telling it to nottry to, to not try to contact
you for a specific period oftime.
Uh, the service will resumenormally after however many days
has passed In default examples.
You don't really care, but youget it.
And then basically, it justsays how much it's like right
(31:09):
now.
You can add one email with upto one recipient each, and then,
upgrading your account, youcould do premium things, oh, I'm
sure.
And then the last little thingis but but nothing, that's it.
Nothing to it.
You can get started right now.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Just register using the following button.
How much is it for?
Like five?
Okay, because that would be fun, honestly, no.
I would have to figure out,like my, who my five mortal
enemies are.
I don't think I even have five.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I don't know, oh, I guess, if you're going to do it
to people that, yeah, you can'tdo to your loved ones.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Right and just like the like our boy did at the
beginning of this one just I'mwatching you.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
So, anyway, maybe Jack did have some sort of
inkling of didn't tell anybodyand again set this up, or he was
just lingering around longenough to mess with his two
favorite loved ones one moretime.
So I did want to end us, though, with my favorite reddit.
(32:15):
I knew there was gonna be somereddit stories yeah, I was able
to find some additionally, likepeople that had like this
happened to them.
Yeah, I was just.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I haven't heard about this specific gentleman, but I
do feel like I have heard fairlyrecently somewhere maybe
another podcast or somethingabout people.
Honestly, it could have beenreddit too.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Just yeah, messing around okay so this username is
ultra havens, um, and it is thetitle is.
I just received an email frommy dead dad and it was posted
under personal encounter.
My dad died six weeks ago.
Earlier this evening I receivedan email from his account.
It simply said check this out,followed by a copy, pasted
(32:55):
headline and a link to a newsarticle from two days ago
pertaining to the university Iwent to and a topic I care about
.
It was extremely, extremely.
It was exactly the type ofarticle that he would have
shared with me and we would havetalked about.
I rationally assumed that my mommust have sent it from the
computer which his email isstill logged into.
That makes sense.
But she told me that she didnot send it and had no knowledge
(33:17):
of the article or news inquestion.
She did share with me that shehad an encounter about an hour
before I received the email.
For context, my mom lives alonein the house she shared with my
dad.
I live about seven hours away.
She said that she heard thegarage door open and close and
got scared.
So she called our neighbor whotold her that she could only see
(33:38):
the light on in the garage.
But my mom checked the lightwas off.
She had recently had manypartial dreaming experience of
seeing and hearing his spirit.
I've also dreamt of interactingwith his spirit several times.
I'm always aware that he's deadin those dreams, but this email
is my favorite tangible andunexpected experience.
(33:58):
Has anyone out, has anyoneheard of ghost reading the news
or sending emails?
Edit Sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I was actually just gonna say there's an edit with
an update, right I?
So I surf Reddit when I can'tsleep.
I have definitely read this one, okay, so there's a couple
edits.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Edit I did reply to the email with a message to him.
At it to the link was to alegit news website.
Don't worry guys, I'm aware ofphishing scams and know to be
weary of strange links andmessages.
The email was too eerilypersonal in nature.
Edit three I just checked foremail spoofing thanks to I don't
know what this user is, but andit appears it and it appears by
(34:38):
legitimately sent from hisGmail account from a local IP.
I'm going back to my parents'home at the start of May for
Memorial Gathering so I will beable to investigate my dad's
phone and computer and otherthings, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
That's so funny, remember, because I told you I
was just reading about thissummer.
Recently I read that one, doyou?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
know why?
Because this was just postedvery, very recently.
So if you read, read it, readit.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I need water hold on, if you read, read it, read,
read it.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
It's easy enough to do but I thought that was kind
of a cool one because it hadit's crazy, because it had
everything that we just talkedabout like it had the email from
dan.
It had like some ghosty, weirdfeelings and then it had, like
he even put in there about thephishing email which is like
exactly how it let you down.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
No, the synchronicities were there.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
No, that's an interesting one so I think
that's definitely his dadbecause or her dad, whoever's,
because there's no way that momhad an experience of that
happening.
Like dad clearly walked, cameinto the garage and walked in,
did you went.
The computer got to send youthis link, son or daughter,
whoever you are, it's so cute.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Which too right.
Then you can make an argumentand not make an argument.
You could have the debate Isthis intelligent or residual?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I mean the only thing , not the only, but I could go
both ways.
The reason that I would leanmore towards intelligent is
because I get that the routineof it would be residual, but
because it's like a new articleand like a new thing, I feel
like it's an intelligent right.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I agree with you, but also like if he in the past
came down, sat down, pulled upan article and sent it to him,
because the only thing that mademe think residual is how you
said earlier, when he knew itwas his dad was um or her I
don't know if it's a male or,yeah, their parent it's the
exact type of article like mydad would send me.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
so this right, that's true, so it could out of the
norm.
So like I mean, you would neverknow, you could argue no, we
could debate this all night, butoh yeah, I thought that was a
fun one.
Okay, so this other one is fromProFmoxie ProFmoxie, I don't
know.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Prof like professor.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Oh, profmoxie.
Yeah, when I'm reading it as ausername, it's all one and I'm
like what?
I got an email from a deceasedfriend and then this is under
the category or under thesubreddit advice needed.
I am really spooked.
Tonight I got an email from afriend who died two years ago.
The email is like this, andthen there's like a screenshot.
The screenshot was weird,though, so it didn't even make
(37:12):
sense to me, but and he kind ofmade up some names and stuff me.
Subject Thank you kindly, bodyfor the glimmer, a skull emoji,
a hammer emoji and then a brokenheart emoji.
That's fucking weird.
Skull hammer, broken heart,yikes.
(37:35):
So again for the glimmer, andthen those emojis that's so
cryptic for the sake of thispost, we'll call him jack von.
he passed away two years ago.
Before he died, we had afalling out and hadn't spoken in
15 plus years.
It wasn't a major falling out,just a disagreement, and we
drifted years.
It wasn't a major falling out,just a disagreement, and we
drifted apart, which was easy todo as we moved across the
(37:58):
country.
Don't imagine too much dramahere.
We're in our late 50s 60s.
We're too old for this crap.
We never exchanged emails usingmy current email address.
We were never friends on anysocial media and never texted.
I only found out he diedthrough a mutual friend on any
social media and never texted.
I only found out he diedthrough a mutual friend.
The email address this emailcame from is something similar
to preciousmusic68 at gmailcom.
(38:20):
It's not an address I know or aphrase I recognize.
I googled the Gmail address andfound it was associated with a
comment on a blog post from fiveyears ago.
Interestingly, that blog postis a picture tour of a park near
where my friend lived before hedied.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Oh weird.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
The front part of the email address, preciousmusic68,
is associated to a Discogsaccount.
My friend was a musician butthe name on the account is Doug
something, not my friend, andthere is no other info on the
profile that could be somethingelse entirely.
Otter still is.
This email address isglimmermynameatgmailcom.
(38:58):
The person that sent this emailhad to know the very specific
word.
Glimmer means a great deal tome and has for decades.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I was wondering.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, not the actual word, but similarly unique one.
Obviously I know my friend isdead.
There was an obituary and Iread an article celebrating his
life and music by some of hisfriends.
As far as I know, this was nothis email address, but I can't
be sure of that fact.
The emojis are freaking me outa bit.
The message is oddly cryptic,like something he might have
(39:30):
written when I knew him poet,music type, but he couldn't.
But he could have not, oh myGod, but he could not have sent
it.
I would dismiss it as spam, butfor the fact that the message
uses such a unique oh my God,I'm done such a unique word for
me.
I don't think a spam generatorgoing through random Gmail
addresses is going to align theemail message and emoji.
(39:53):
So, specifically, what should Ido?
Is there any way I can learnmore?
Should I reply and ask who thisis?
Should I assume it's spam andstop freaking out?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Okay.
So first of all, before you gettoo down on yourself for
stumbling over words, I thinkI've only helped you with one
word through this entire episode, so that's going to be like a
banner one I don't even remembernow, okay, but still that's.
It's.
That one is still really.
I think of all of them, thisone is like maybe the easiest
one to kind of explain away,just because it's like it's a
(40:24):
random word that could have just.
You know there's a lot of,there's probably hundreds of
words that if I just got it inan email I would be able to find
meaning in it, but it's stillvery strange.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Well, and I guess what's weird is that.
So somebody in the Redditcomments, though, was like well,
if your email is likeglimmerzackpalmer at gmailcom,
the auto like the hacked, likethe auto hack is going to think
you're glimmer, so it's going tosay glimmer or like whatever,
because we've all seen that typeof shit.
(40:56):
So they were like that isdefinitely a bot, like they
don't recognize what is actuallya name and what's not.
So it makes sense to be a bot.
But the weird part and is in hekind of like debated in the
argument or in the um comments,and he wasn't going either way,
he's just curious.
He was just saying I understandthat, but how would this person
(41:17):
, this Jack Vaughn, ever get myemail?
That's what he was so confusedabout, because, yes, the word is
so weird but he never had thisemail.
It was like a newer emailaccount that this guy would
never have.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
I think if there wasn't the pictures of the park
near his house, it would.
I would write this one awayeasier, but yeah, there's
definitely oddness to it.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
And then that's why he was saying like, well, I
really think it like I don'tknow if it's actual account, but
it was like the account itself,the email has something to do
with music, which he was amusician.
Then that one account wasattached to a profile picture
that was near him, like so, justvery weird.
But this one, I think you couldbe the easiest one to write off
as somebody just scamming you.
But it is really strange andjust really creepy, like for the
(42:01):
glimmer skull, hammer, brokenheart.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's so creepy we're gonna solve this one and
we're also gonna solve the callsfrom beyond the grave okay the
way we're gonna solve.
It is not gonna be soon,hopefully, and it's not when
we're dead cute.
Yes, okay, let's make a vowright now, whoever dies so funny
.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I was gonna ask you what?
Where are you gonna haunt mewhen you die first?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
oh, all the ways.
Let's be honest, like I'm nevergonna give you a moment of
peace again, I'm gonna poke yourbutthole a lot, only if it's
not watery.
I don't know how I I'm going toknow that Maybe you get x-ray
vision as a ghost, but no,whoever dies first.
The first thing you have to dois try to call and text and
email the other person and we'regoing to see which one comes
through first.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
So here's the thing, off the air, if you will, we'll
have to give each other like acode word that we would only
know as each other sending it tous I already know what my safe
word is going to be okay, Idon't know what mine is, but
I'll think about it, okay, soout of these, like basically
three stories, what are youleaning?
(43:06):
Hacked, you don't know, or thethe only one I'm?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
gonna say I don't know too.
Is number three same, um?
The first two are just sosimilar to other things we've
talked about.
Yep, um, the obviously thephantom calls sliding kind of
reminds me a bit too, because,like, if the living have the
ability to manipulateelectronics around them, that's
(43:32):
true, I would imagine a energyafterlife would also.
I would be interested, thoughit would be kind of cool to see,
like for both those individuals, if they spent a lot of time
doing the emails, because that'swhere my brain stuck on is to
me something like an email couldbe so residual if that was part
(43:57):
of your routine, if that dad,if his way of communicating with
his son at school was to comehome, open the garage, sit down
and send that email.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It sounded like it kind of was something that he
would do and you can visualizeit.
It's weird because this is howI visualized it like okay.
So mom says that she heard thegarage door, she saw the light,
okay, and like I'm literallyvisually okay, he walks in the
garage so the light goes off.
He comes in, closes the door,goes to computer, sends the
email, right, she tells theneighbor that she's scared.
(44:29):
The neighbor's like the garagelight looks like it's on, but
mom goes and looks and it'sprobably already off because
it's already been censored.
Like my garage light stays onlike a minute or so after I walk
out.
Right, that's how I figure.
Like oh, like you know what Imean.
Like no, it's off now.
Well, yeah, because he alreadywalked through, he he'd been in
the house now emailing.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I feel like I usually give a little bit more
skepticism to you no, becausethis is like an impelling yeah,
no, this one seems pretty legitcompelling, impelling compelling
, compelling um.
I said impelling, compellingare you sure, the first time I
said impelling, but what I willsay?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I was scouring reddit and the interwebs for more
people that have had this happento them and I cannot fucking
find any, which makes it evenyes, what makes it even more
compelling to me is that itdoesn't happen that often that,
like quote unquote, dead peopleare emailing yeah, because I I
(45:23):
think a lot of those things thatwe see the same story over and
over again.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
You have to start to ask yourself, like, is this
folklore, is it beingexaggerated, right?
Speaker 2 (45:32):
that's what I mean, and so I was trying because I
was trying to put some in herethat would be like that's
definitely like that's hacked.
You was hacked, bro, but I itwas just hard.
Now, obviously, like you're.
My searches are like deadpeople being like sending emails
, emails from the dead, and it'sliterally like everyone pop up.
Be like what do you do aftersomebody?
What do you do with somebody'semail after they die?
It's like no, it's not, oh yeah, so it's like a lot of that.
I'd be like what do you doafter somebody?
(45:53):
What do you do with somebody'semail?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
after they die.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It's like no, it's not what they're asking you.
So it was like a lot of that.
I'd be like paranormal emails,ghost emails.
And then it's like what is aghost email?
A ghost email is like no, fuckyou.
So I will say it was alsoreally hard to find the right
verbiage.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
But even Reddit didn't have too many that popped
up.
So I don't know Like I, likeyou said, I'm going to go with
the last one.
It's so fucking creepy that Iwant it to be real.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
But I could see that one being just like.
So if a ghost sends you a link,is it still called phishing?
Speaker 2 (46:27):
No, because it's not a phishing link.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
OK, well, I mean I'm setting it up for a pun here.
Would it still be fishing?
That's where you just say no Isaid no okay, what if it was
harbooing instead of harpooning?
Okay, there's a reason.
I'm not a stand-up comedian,but I could have at least gotten
a pity laugh there.
Thank you all right.
(46:52):
So I definitely think the firsttwo are a little paranormally,
and then the third one a coupleyears out of these shoppers and
by that I mean at least 45 to 50and we'll tell you one of us,
one of us will go maybe 60 yearswell, what am I?
36 now yeah, 96 would be a goodage okay, yeah, because tune in
(47:18):
60 years from now and we willtell you if this is true or not.
Actually sign up for our emaillist and we'll email you.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Post death oh my god, we'll put all of the.
We can put all the Patreonsubscribers on our Dead man
Switch.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yes, I love that.
We'll just send them all theunedited footage so you can see
everything we've cut out.
That is the number one perk nowof being a Patreon.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
When we die, you get all the dirt.
But speaking of Patreon, youguys should come on over to
Patreon, marielle.
Actually I don't know if yousaw today she chatted They've
got snow where she is for likethe first time in three years,
oh gross.
She sent a picture of theOddity Shop mug in the snow,
like I have the perfect mug touse and I'm like that's so cute.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, it was cute.
Yeah.
I guess if you only get it onceevery few years, you're
probably excited.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, so it was a cute picture.
I should repost it somewhere.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
And Kara's been forcing me to get better on
camera and I'm doing videos andstuff with her.
We got new things coming inthere.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah, we have a lot of fun stuff coming.
So if you want to join thePatreon, that would be fun.
I would love to get more peoplein there so that the chat keeps
going.
You know like we just all daycan like vibe and like send good
vibes messages to each other,perfect, okay, well.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Well, that is what I have for phishing scams, dead
people emailing letter emoji ohyeah, well, I don't know.
If there's an email, there's anenvelope oh yeah isn't like the
little email envelope thingylet's do that, some sort of
envelope, letter thing.
Well, no, I love how we alwaysstart specifically and we're
like what actually actually?
Whatever emoji.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
No, what you should do is skull hammer, broken heart
.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
There you go.
That's what I want.
Just email us, glimmer, we'llknow.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Skull hammer broken heart.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Perfect.
Well, good job.
That one was definitelyinteresting.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
I can't wait to test it out.
I kind of took you all over.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, give me some medical.
And I really thought too whenyou were starting.
I'm like, you literally justcame up with a question so you
could tell me another story.
Cool, cool, I played that offvery well.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
You did good job no, for those obviously that don't
see us, which is everybody.
Zach's face was getting soannoyed because he's thinking
this intro is going so fuckinglong.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
We're like 15 minutes in.
People are tuning out I'mtuning out.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
He was.
He was starting to like lookaround like I'm glad I have such
a good poker you're likegrating your, like grating your
teeth, like, okay, you're liketrying so hard to interrupt me
so you'd be like here, shut thefuck up.
Like I'm gonna edit all of thisout yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Wow, you are in my head okay with that how are we
closing the shop up?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
oh my god.
So yes, we've decided skullhammer broken heart broken heart
emoji.
That's how we I want you toglimmer is how I want you to
approach me with sign up for ourPatreon.
We've got cool things coming,thank you.
Thank you, guys.
I know we probably said on thelast episode, but thank you guys
so much for being cool andloving that we were replaying
some old episodes all January.
(50:12):
We really appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
But we're back and refreshing.
We have so much new stuffcoming.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I know, okay, so that's really all I have for you
guys.
I love you so much.
Creep it real oh no, try again.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
I love you guys so much, but the most important
thing you can do is creep it.
(50:51):
Real Yadballs Goodbye V shop.
Hooked in the shadows At the IVshop At home with the oddballs
At the IV shop.
The door's always open At theIV shop.
I want to dance with the mothman At the IA shop,
baked in the moonlight At the IAshop.
Creep through the graveyard Tothe IA shop.
The door's always open At theIity Shop.
(00:47):
What's up, oddballs?
Welcome back to the Oddity Shop, the podcast, where we tell you
all the creepy, odd, weird,strange and bizarre stories from
around the globe.
I am one of your two curators,zachary, sitting here with the
(01:10):
lovely, gorgeous, amazing oneyear freshly older, but doesn't
look a day over 21 years oldthank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you, you're welcomeyou're welcome, welcome.
I feel like you've been givingme some like really great intros
for a while, so I needed to doa gas you up one you need to up
it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, it was recently my day of birth.
It was.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I think that was one of my favorite birthday parties
and, honestly, you and I at thisparty fought for the guest's
attention from a Lions game thateveryone thought was going to
be a huge game, and I think wedid good pretending that we knew
what was going on with sport.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Oh, actually, that's because we didn't care, we
didn't even entertain, we didn'tacknowledge the game.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I sat with my face looking at the game and then at
one point you look over.
You're like are you OK?
I just hold up my phone like,yeah, I'm looking at pictures of
puppies, yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
No, it was funny because that was actually my
birthday that day, so and it wasa Saturday.
So I'm like hello, it has to beon that.
And then I invited everybody,you know, like a couple weeks
prior, and then, slowly, as itgot closer, people are like,
yeah, but will the game be on?
And like I'm just like I mean,I'm not that dumb, but I wanted
to be like what game?
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Right, I actually was pretty much like what game?
Until you all explained it tome.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Literally every single person that I got invited
that day or the night beforewas like, well, is the game
going to be on?
And I'm like, oh my God, I'llhave the fucking game on.
I get, I love hosting and Ilove having people over, but I
do get a little bit anxiousbecause I feel like I have to
entertain everybody, even thoughI know that that's not true and
these are all just like myclosest friends that literally
can just sit at the table andjust talk to each other.
(02:46):
But when you're having likesome sort of like party or event
or whatever, like you feel likeyou know what I mean Like you
want to entertain.
So it's kind of nice, though,because half of the people were
just like entertainingthemselves with the game, and
then some of us were justchatting and listening to music
and just, you know, drinking,smoking, doing some things.
Like I thought it was fun, Ithink it was super chill, it was
like it was kind of perfect,and then the whole day before
(03:07):
that, I literally slept in and Itexted you.
I said I don't want to get upyet.
You said sleeping girl, andthen we had the chillest day.
That was the day of your party.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
We had the chillest day.
People didn't come over tillfive.
You ran all my errands.
Thank you so much.
I love you.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I was going to go get food anyway, so I'm like yeah,
but you went to Kroger twice.
Oh, I know you so well, right,and I know like and this isn't a
dig, no, but I don't care aboutaesthetics of things and I know
sometimes you do.
So I was tasked with gettingbirthday candles for a cake and
you wanted to take a reallyspecific, really awesome picture
(03:42):
.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
This is what's funny, though, is, I told myself,
because I was going to go getthe candles and I was going to
do all this stuff, but I wasjust tired.
I had a little bit too much todrink with you the night before.
Not, you didn't drink, I didjust because you and I just
hadn't seen each other in awhile.
So I was feeling a little yuckyand I was mad at myself for it.
But whatever, it doesn'tfucking matter.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It doesn't fucking matter.
So I didn't even give you anydirection.
You told yourself yes and youdidn't give me direction.
I went through the valentine'sday aisle, the card and party
aisle, the uh baking aisle.
Everyone had a differentselection of candles and I'm
like what I wanted?
Because it was a black cake andI know you love beetlejuice.
I wanted something with greencandles, oh that would be no
multi-pack.
No, anything had green candles.
Then I'm like, okay, straightwhite candles, no, they only had
(04:31):
the twisty ones.
I'm like, okay, I'm gonna getthose.
But then I found one withoff-white and gold.
I'm like, okay, I'm gonna getthose two.
But then there are sparklercandles.
So I'm like I'm gonna get thosetwo, but then, like this blue
one might work instead of green.
I think I came home with fouror five packs of candles.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Yeah, it might have been three or four, maybe four,
I think it was four.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Yeah, and I was just like, oh my God, You're like
well, I didn't know Literallyother than your birthday party,
though I don't have much to talkabout.
And can I also just talk aboutsomething else that happened at
your party that had everybodydying Sure.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Okay, so for those of you who don't know?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Kara is like the tchotchke queen.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, don't say tchotchke Hold on.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, let me, I was going to fix it.
Okay, not just like uselesstchotchkes you do find very
useful.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Well, hold on, because what I'm saying is
tchotchke.
When you say the term tchotchke, people think of like old
ladies with shelves full of justlittle shit everywhere.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
That is okay it's like little appliances, little
like, yeah, very specific useitems they're just like okay.
So she starts off, though, withbringing out her ring cleaner,
and she's like, and honestlylike, you're making
recommendations because you wantyour friends to like have
things that you love.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, this is what's funny is, I've never realized
I've done this ever in my life.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
You've always been this way a little bit, but it
wasn't to this extent.
So she had everyone put theirrings and glasses in the ring
cleaner.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
It actually started off with the ninja slushie,
because I was making us allslushies and everyone's like, oh
my god, that is so cool.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
And so I'm just talking about it because I have
it then then the like theacupuncture mat came out, the
mopper came out, and you'regiving everybody like these
product demos and having themall try it, everything.
And at one point I look overand me and emily are like when
is the catalog going to come out?
Like, is this a pampered chefthing?
Is she trying?
So you're like, but it was sofunny because it felt like one
(06:27):
of those like multi-levelmarketing, like Tupperware
parties but you weren't tryingto actually sell us anything.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And the funniest part was is that it was all organic.
It all came up organicallybecause I was literally looking,
shauna went to grab a piece ofsomething like a food and it
like her ring was shining undermy light, I was like, girl, oh
my God, it looks so beautiful.
And I was like we got to get youone of those sonic cleaners,
cause she goes, oh, I just gotit clean from the jeweler.
I said we got to get you asonic cleaner.
She's like does it work?
Well, I said let me grab mine.
(06:53):
And then I'm like everybody putyour rings and I'm putting
people'sie on the floor.
So I'm like let me go get mysteam mop.
And I'm steam mopping.
Everyone's like that's so cool.
And I'm like, yeah, it's great.
I mean I had already made Emilybuy that.
Emily already purchased.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I can't even remember what like the last one was.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
The acupuncture mat.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Because there was something at the very tail end
of the night where you started.
You finally caught yourselfbecause you started.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You're like oh my God , I'm doing it again.
That's right, because then Iwas like I'll send everybody
links of everything.
I'm going to make you aspreadsheet.
But I don't, you're right, Idon't remember what the last one
was.
But anyway, now I'm like, oh myGod, I'm like I'm not afraid,
but this morning I was textingZach right away this morning, or
no.
I'm like, dang, you really needto get this walking pad,
(07:43):
because I just edited ourpatreon videos and typed an
episode and I walked for twohours I'm like it's amazing with
a standing desk.
And then I'm like I'm nottrying to sell you this, I am
just suggesting.
And then I sent him the linkand I'm like, wow, I am crazy
you, you truly missed yourcalling to be on qvc.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
I think like for sure maybe I should have those
parties okay.
I Okay, I think we're way toofar into this.
I don't have anything else totalk about.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
What's on your?
Speaker 1 (08:09):
mind before we open the shop.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
I don't have anything else really Cool, and I don't
really have a question for you.
I'm sorry, but well, I guessI'll ask you this.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
I feel like I don't even know how to open the shop.
Okay, I do have a question.
I'm going to Okay.
Okay, do you want to know how Ispent?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
my Tuesday morning slash afternoon.
How did you spend your Tuesdaymorning slash afternoon?
Okay, I spent two hours tryingto help my parents get YouTube
TV.
Oh no, okay, so I create anaccount with mom's email on on
my Mac, right, because I'mFaceTiming this woman.
Okay, and it's morning.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
There is nothing worse than trying to set up
electronics.
It's hard Remotely.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
So here's the thing they wanted to do the trial of
YouTube TV.
Because we have YouTube TV andthey want to down.
They don't watch a lot ofwhatever, it doesn't matter.
So I'm trying to help them andI'm like, wait, they can't
create this account, it's gonnabe too hard.
So I'm on my Mac creating theYouTube TV account right with
her email.
Okay, via FaceTime, yeah, we'rejust, yeah, okay.
(09:15):
So then I get to the part tohave them download the YouTube
TV app on their TV and the appsays that it needs an update.
So I'm like, okay, I'mFaceTiming them and listen this,
my, I love my mother so much,but she's warbling all around.
I can barely see my stepdad andthe TV.
I'm like I can't see whatyou're doing.
Sit down, just sit down andface the TV.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Plus, as much as Google, products are great as
soon as one part starts toupdate, especially with the TV,
for whatever reason it freaksout.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
So this is LG.
Okay, so this is what happens.
So the TV needs an update.
The so the TV needs an update.
The YouTube TV app on the LGneeds an update.
They don't have an LG accountor whatever, and it's saying
that they need that.
It's required now to downloadthe update to this app.
Okay, so then I log in on, I'mon my Mac and I create her an LG
account with my mom's Gmail.
(09:58):
Because I'm like I'm makingeverything easy.
I have a picture, I have allher passwords written down for
every account and I'm like but Ididn't do that.
So who the hell did that?
Because I'm like what?
So I'm like, okay.
So then I do forgot passwordCause.
(10:18):
Then my stepdad's like you knowwhat Maybe we did when we first
got this TV?
Speaker 1 (10:21):
literally nine years ago Right and just forget about
it.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, okay, so I do forgot password and I get that
figured out and then I go tosign in right, you'd let me
reset the password.
And I go to sign in and itfucking says your LG account was
used for a Taiwan LG account.
You need to delete the Taiwanaccount first.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Okay, I sat there for way longer than I ever wanted
to, with which I will tell you.
This is really cool, and I'mnot selling anything but the
Google translate app.
No, the Google translate app.
Now you know you can put thecamera button on, but all you
have to do is hover over.
You don't take pictures.
So I'm literally hovering overmy laptop screen, still on
FaceTime with my damn momreading this shit, spent 30
(11:01):
minutes doing that, and then I'mlike you know what it's got to
be my brother.
I get a hold of my brother.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
He's three hours, you know, behind, or oh, I didn't
even think about him, yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Oh my God.
So I get a hold of him and I'mlike, hey, did you use mom's LG
account in Taiwan?
And he's like I have no ideawhy I would ever use an LG
account and I was in Taiwan inlike 2016.
So I don't think so, but maybe,but I can't help you.
So I'm like fuck it.
So then I create mom asecondary email just so I can
make a fucking new LG account.
(11:30):
Okay, all right.
Then I get the fucking LG appupdated, finally, cool.
And I go on my computer and Isign up for the free trial for
YouTube TV and I log in and itsays you're unable to use the
free trial oh my god I said didyou guys already try to do this?
and my stepdad goes, yeah, butwe couldn't get it to work so
they already wasted their freetrial.
(11:51):
So I'm like no big deal, I havea secondary email that I now
created.
I didn't want to use thesecondary email because that's
more confusing.
But then I'm like fuck it.
So I do that, and then I go allthe way through and it's like
tied to the same card and itkept saying you can't, it's
already on file type deal Likeyou can't have a free trial.
And then I literally said fuckit.
And after two hours of doingthis they didn't even get their
(12:12):
free trial.
And watch them, not even watchthis.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
No, they won't.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Okay, so anyway, okay .
Then I started thinking aboutwhy someone would use like her
email in Taiwan.
I'm like just for like just forlike the LG app.
Like, but like.
Why would you do that?
Like what else would you needthat for?
Because my brother is like it'snot, it's not me, he's like I.
Really, why would you ever usean LG app?
Speaker 1 (12:37):
yeah, you wouldn't, unless you had the product for
sure right, okay.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So I'm like, if that's the worst that they did,
though me and my brother likefuck it, who cares, right.
But then it like got methinking about like hacking.
And then that got me thinkingof like the statistics of email
hacking.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I literally thought you were just going on like a
sidebar story about your mom,like I don't have a question, so
I didn't realize this tied intothe episode.
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
So, according to Astracom, 55% of phishing
websites use targeted brandnames to capture sensitive
information ease.
According to the F5 labsphishing and fraud report of
2020, which makes sense, causeyou know how you always get
those ads that look like the um,the wherever you're shopping,
and then, once you click it, youdon't notice that the website
is actually different.
They're good.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So I almost got one that was super well done.
It looked like Apple and it wasright.
After that whole, you had toaccept the terms and conditions
for iCloud to work.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
It was an email saying I didn't do it and I
almost fell for it, and I'musually pretty good about the
phishing stuff, yeah, but it'shard I mean they're getting good
84% of US-based organizationshave stated that conducting
regular security awarenesstraining has helped reduce the
rate to which employees fall forprey, and my company does this
all the time.
(13:57):
They'll send out a fakephishing email and see who opens
it and then, as soon as youopen it, you literally have 24
hours to complete a trainingabout phishing.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
That's so funny.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
So phishing scams, scam accounts, oh my God.
Phishing scams account fornearly 22% of all data breaches
that occur, which is just likeit's like the most prevalent
cybercrime.
In the FBI's 2021 IC report, Isee three part, which is just
that's actually low I I I guessI could go both ways.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
I guess, yeah, 22 does seem low for that I guess
though I don't know enough aboutall the other kinds of hacking
to yeah, uh, in 2021, it wasnearly 83 of companies
experienced phishing hacks yepand then 36 of all data breaches
involve phishing, according toVerizon's 2022 report, and it
was estimated that by 2022,ransomware or phishing attack
(14:52):
will occur every 11 seconds.
One of my friends who works forquite a large corporation, I
think during 2020,.
They got literally shut downfor almost a week from a
phishing ransomware scam thatgot into everything.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's so crazy.
At 16%, phishing was the secondmost reason for data breaches
and the closest or the costliest, averaging $4.990 million in
breach costs.
And one of the most expensivephishing attacks was through
compromised emails, with around19,000 complaints having a loss
(15:26):
of 1.8 billion.
Oh my God, okay, so that I justyou know it's going down this
rabbit hole.
So definitely easy and commonto have one of your accounts
hacked, especially like throughyour email.
So then it got me thinking.
We have after death phone calls, we have Ouija boards, spirit
boxes and other equipment anditems that we use to talk to the
dead.
So if we can hack into emails,then why can't the dead?
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Are you saying hack the Ouija board or hack the
email?
The email, oh.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
A spirit box works by rapidly scanning through
various radio frequencies, right, so essentially acting like a
radio scanner that continuouslymoves between stations without
stopping and with the idea thatspirits can manipulate those
frequencies to create audiblewords or phrases, you know.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Right, like kind of through the white noise.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
And then, according to the theory behind the Ovilus,
spirits are thought tocommunicate by subtly altering
environmental fields, which thedevice then interprets as
changes and translates wordsinto pre-programmed database.
So essentially like speakingenvironmental fields, which the
device then interprets aschanges and translates words
into pre-programmed database.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
so essentially like speaking the obvious, that's the
one that it is like the wordquiet spirit box that says words
okay yeah, it just says thewords so if spirits can
manipulate, like through allthat like, why can't they
manipulate the email waves andall that shit?
Speaker 2 (16:41):
right, it makes sense , I know.
So I'm excited.
You might have heard of thisone, but it has been one that
has already been on my list andin my brain.
But once I started going downthis spiral of all this stuff,
I'm like, oh, my god, this kindof like correlates.
Okay, so let's talk a bit aboutour main character.
(17:01):
Okay, and his name is jackfroice.
Okay, jack, according to hismother, is a sensitive,
kind-hearted and unique 32 yearold from pennsylvania, and when
we start with a description likethat, we know that
unfortunately, they died did healso lit up the room right?
yeah, okay so, in june 2011,jack unexpectedly unexpectedly
(17:26):
died from a heart arrhythmia and, according to the Cleveland
clinic, a heart arrhythmia, ifyou didn't know, is a heart
rhythm that isn't normal.
Your heart may be beating toofast when you're at rest or just
not beating at a regularpattern, and they range from
being like serious to harmless.
So some people don't even havesymptoms, and it's an estimated
1.5 to 5% of people have heartarrhythmias.
(17:49):
Okay, and then, kind of like Isaid, though, because you don't
have symptoms, it does make itdifficult to like estimate how
many people actually have it,and because I love all of you
guys, I'm going to give you somesymptoms so that you can be
aware.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
Oh, time for self-diagnosis.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
Heart arrhythmia symptoms may include heart
palpitations, dizziness,lightheadedness, faint episodes,
shortness of breath, chestdiscomfort, weakness or fatigue.
And for the curious, arrhythmiacauses include coronary heart
disease, irritable tissue inyour heart, high blood pressure,
changes in your heart, valvedisorders.
(18:27):
You know, blah, blah, blah,blah.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I love you, but I'm sorry to tell you that you would
never cut it in pharmaceuticalcommercials.
That was way too slow to rattleall that off.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Oh God.
So basically, the healingprocess can be heart surgery or,
like I said, it might not evenbe serious.
Okay, so he didn't know he hadit.
It was tragic 32 years old, ugh, too young, I know.
So, again, we sadly lost himand it's sad, but that's why
we're here, sad, depressingthings.
(18:56):
Okay, so we know that we neverlike get over death of a loved
one.
We know that.
But as time moves on, you know,so do our lives and we kind of
better accept it.
So five months after a death, Iwould say, is still fresh,
absolutely, but you're probablylike been trying to like get
back into your routine and yourlife as best as you can, but
(19:17):
that's still not a lot of time.
So can you imagine, five monthsafter losing your childhood
best friend, he emails you.
No, because that's exactly whathappened to Tim Hart.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah Well, I figured that's where we were going with
this.
All right, tell us about Tim.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
Tim told the BBC one night in November.
I was sitting on my couch goingthrough my emails on my phone
and it popped up Sender Jack.
I turned ghost white and I readit.
The subject line I'm watching,oh, I just got chills, yeah.
So then, referring to thecontext in the email, tim stated
(19:55):
it was a very quick and short,but to a point that only Jack
and I could relate.
And this is what the email saidDid you hear me?
I'm at your house, clean yourfucking attic.
What do you do?
Speaker 1 (20:09):
Clean the attic.
That is the absolute firstthing I'm doing.
Actually, I'm just going tomake sure he's not hiding in the
attic.
Yeah, my head would start toplay games with me Also.
This um, it kind of reminds meof the calls from beyond the
grave that we did about thepeople who did the phone calls
or receiving phone calls.
That's kind of why I said, likeif they can do all that, why
(20:30):
couldn't you know?
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So, if that's not really like weird or creepy
enough for you, days before Jackdied he was actually in Tim's
attic.
The two were discussing whatneeds to be done to finish it
and, as it was like really dirty, unfinished addict, jack had
made comments along the lines oflike dusting or sweeping it
before he would even begin tohelp do anything.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I kind of love that though, because like that makes
the message really Exactly, it'sless random or like somebody
got into the email, or somethinglike that.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
It's personal, but not so personal that like it's
just yeah, so as this was aprivate conversation, it was
just with friends.
Like it makes it more unlikelyto be a prank, like you were
just saying, or like a hacker.
Like you could say that maybeJack's told somebody about his
experience in his friend's attic, or that Tim said something
about being in his friend'sattic, but like why would either
one of them be like oh yeah, Iwas up in Tim's attic today and
I told him it was dusty, or likeyeah.
(21:32):
Jack told me my attic was dusty.
It's just such a weird thing torandomly tell anybody else for
it to then be them to say it'sjust ad.
So yes, there are like reallycruel and fucked up people in
the world, but like why sendthat if you were hacking the
account?
It's just so pointless to me Ilike, if it was somebody hacking
it like why, what?
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I don't know it would just be kind of a pointless
hack.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Yeah yeah, jimmy, or jim mcgraw, jack's cousin, grew
up more as a brother to jack andhe received a november email.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Oh, wait, remind me, when did uh tim get his email?
June, november november, okay,june is when he passed.
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
So this is a little bit later, in november, I think
it was like a couple weeks, uh,or like the end of nove.
I think the other ones made thebeginning.
It was a couple of weeks, partGotcha, and I've got obviously
from no other, no one other thanJack, subject of this one.
I knew you were going to breakyour ankle.
Tried to warn.
You Got to be careful.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
I'm guessing his ankle.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
A week prior to Jim getting this email, he broke his
ankle on his way to work, likewalking outside of his house on
his way to work.
He broke his ankle on his wayto work, like walking outside of
his house on his way to work.
And then basically he said,aside from like his, like family
, like a few family and some ofthe friends, nobody knew about
this accident, like he didn'treally tell anybody.
Yeah, that's wild.
If somebody that also happensalready emailed him, then was
(22:58):
like.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So now you would have to know about both things if
you were a hacker.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Right, such weird little things that, yeah, and I
guess you could be like well, ifyou, if I told my mom I broke
my ankle, she's probably goingto tell 500 people, so that's a
little bit easier to say thatlike, I'm sure somebody could
have found more out about hisbroken ankle than the attic, but
still, it's something sofucking weird that I just don't
know why you would fuck withsomebody with that.
(23:22):
No, it makes no sense.
So Tim had actually replied backto his, like he emailed a
follow up, but he didn't get aresponse and Jim just stated I'd
like to say Jack sent it, justbecause I look at it as he's
gone, but he's still trying toconnect with me, trying to tell
me to move on, to feel better.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I mean one that's really cute and comforting, to
get from beyond the grave too.
But like I also feel kind ofwhat you're saying, where we're
talking about the phone calls,like it almost has to be easier
to manipulate a keyboard or acomputer than it would a phone
call or some of the othermessages.
Like it doesn't seem like.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Are you manipulating the keyboard?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh, I'm sorry, I mean like for a spirit to manipulate
an electronic written wordrather than spoken word in their
own voice.
So I argument for spirit, notsomebody manipulating.
Yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
So Patty Jack's mother said I saw they made
people happy.
They made some upset, but I seeit as people were still talking
about him and then Patty alsosaid like was quoted saying
think what you want about it orjust accept them as a gift.
I think that, regardless of howthese emails happened, the most
(24:35):
important thing to take away isjust that sometimes there
doesn't need to be anexplanation for everything,
primarily when it can serve tohelp bring comfort to you after
a loss.
Whatever the meaning is to takefrom something like this is to
accept it and to move to abetter place.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
I agree so much with that.
Especially when it comes togrief, you can rack your brain
trying to figure out ifsomething was real or not right,
but whether in that moment it'sreal or not, if it brought you
comfort, the feelings of comfortare real, so let it be real to
you.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, and then Tim said like he doesn't mind, even
if he found out the emails werejust a prank from somebody who,
like, hacked into his old emailaccount.
If somebody's joking around, Idon't care because I take it
what I take it, whatever way Iwant, the mysterious emails are
still unsolved because, like I,like I said, jack's loved ones
kind of just accepted it as asign from him.
(25:29):
There are some articles and oneinterview that I watched with
both of them and his mom.
One of them does say that therewere others, but I don't think
those others wanted to comeforward.
Yeah, and there was no mentionof what any of those emails said
did they have screenshots ofthe ones that?
yes it did talk about, okay,yeah it's implied that more
(25:52):
people got emails from him andthey were just as like weird,
like this, uh, but I don't knowwhat they say.
No one's like reported on them.
But I was racking my brain likefor other explanations is like
what?
Like why was nobody else liketalked to about this, like his
mom?
His mom didn't get one.
She was one that didn't likebut other than like loved ones,
(26:12):
just like checking in frombeyond, like the two guys, like
I don't know.
I'm just like it's so weird tome because the two guys have
mentioned like could havementioned the addict broken his
ankle and then someone pulledthis prank.
But, like I said before, likewhat was the person like purpose
?
Like what are they?
What would they gain?
Right, and like, if you'repranking, this is bad, but like,
if you're pranking, wouldn'tyou then like respond to the
(26:35):
reply to tim?
Like, unless you're like reallytrying to creep him out, but
you think you'd really like fuckwith him a little bit yeah,
like you, you'd keep the rusegoing for me it kind of right if
we think about evps or other umevidence we get from beyond the
grave.
It's never a full back and forthconversation, snippets it's
yeah, it's when you can musterthe energy, so maybe and then I
(26:58):
but I do think that if it was acruel prank because if this is a
prank that is really cruel oh,you're gonna email his two, like
his best friends or his cousin,like.
But I was thinking, if you arethat cruel to do that, wouldn't
you fucking email more people oremail his mother?
Speaker 1 (27:12):
yeah so, unless you really hated just these two
individuals, I don't know Idon't know, but there was also
nothing malicious they weren'tgaining, so like if they were
trying to get information ortrying to make that person upset
or something like.
Then I could see more of theargument.
But like why, why would you dothis as a prank, without follow?
Speaker 2 (27:32):
up.
That's why I'm just confused, Idon't know.
Another thought was Jack couldhave future scheduled these
emails, true, but that doesn'texplain how he would know that
his cousin was going to breakhis ankle, yeah.
And like, why would hepre-schedule an email?
It's not like he knew he wasdying.
And like, why emails?
Because you can pre-scheduletexts which would just be so
(27:54):
much easier to your loved onesthan, like, they're likely to
miss an email.
They're not going to miss atext.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Honestly, if I like was dying, that's the shit I
would probably do is likeschedule stuff out.
But yeah, like you said you,you can't predict the because
the the ankle injury, like surethat could explain the first one
.
But it was also a freakaccident, the way he died or not
, that's what I'm saying, yeahhe didn't know.
Speaker 2 (28:16):
So it's like, yeah, and I could really see like
randomly emailing you and beinglike fucking clean your attic.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
Right, you know what I mean.
Like, even like.
Oh dude, if I like had a couplemonths, and they're like, hey,
you're dying the way, I wouldmess with you.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
All right, well, here we go.
So there's a website calleddeadmanswitchnet and, if you
don't know, a dead man switch isa switch that is designed to be
activated or deactivated if thehuman operator becomes
incapacitated, such as throughdeath.
So this could be for, likegovernment people that are like
(28:51):
you know.
It could be for anything, it'sjust like that's called a dead
man switch, like if I getknocked out, this switch, blah,
blah, blah.
You get what I mean, but thewebsite is also called that, so
let me read you the gist of thewebsite.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
Because I think you're gonna like it.
So this is what this is all thewebsite says why Bad things
happen.
Sometimes they happen to you.
If something does happen, youmight wish there was something
you had told the people aroundyou how you feel, what you
regret, what you wish you hadsaid.
Or maybe you just want to makesure your pets are taken care of
promptly.
(29:25):
For that you need a dead man'sswitch.
How this is how it works.
You write a few emails andchoose the recipient, recipients
recipients.
These emails are storedprivately until they're sent.
Your switch will email youevery so often, asking you to
show that you are fine byclicking a link If something
(29:47):
were to happen.
Your switch would then send theemails you wrote to the
recipients you specified, sortof an electronic will.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
You could say oh, I am not consistent enough with
checking my emails.
Oh my God, I'd write like somelike like tell all secret stuff.
And then it's just like no, Iwas just camping for a weekend.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
I should have looked.
I should have asked Reddit ifanyone has done a dead man
switch and then didn't die.
So then.
The next one, though, is when?
So notifications are sent atcertain intervals by email,
telegram or browser pushnotifications.
You can set the intervals towhatever you want, from one day
to years.
By default, the switch willnotify you 30, 45, and 52 days
(30:34):
after you last showed signs oflife.
If you don't respond to any ofthose notifications, all your
messages will be sent 60 daysafter your last check-in.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Okay, so this is not like an instant thing.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Yeah, of course you can have your switch postpones
its activation, like you know,if you're on vacation or
whatever, by telling it to nottry to, to not try to contact
you for a specific period oftime.
Uh, the service will resumenormally after however many days
has passed In default examples.
You don't really care, but youget it.
And then basically, it justsays how much it's like right
(31:09):
now.
You can add one email with upto one recipient each, and then,
upgrading your account, youcould do premium things, oh, I'm
sure.
And then the last little thingis but but nothing, that's it.
Nothing to it.
You can get started right now.
Speaker 1 (31:27):
Just register using the following button.
How much is it for?
Like five?
Okay, because that would be fun, honestly, no.
I would have to figure out,like my, who my five mortal
enemies are.
I don't think I even have five.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
I don't know, oh, I guess, if you're going to do it
to people that, yeah, you can'tdo to your loved ones.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Right and just like the like our boy did at the
beginning of this one just I'mwatching you.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
So, anyway, maybe Jack did have some sort of
inkling of didn't tell anybodyand again set this up, or he was
just lingering around longenough to mess with his two
favorite loved ones one moretime.
So I did want to end us, though, with my favorite reddit.
(32:15):
I knew there was gonna be somereddit stories yeah, I was able
to find some additionally, likepeople that had like this
happened to them.
Yeah, I was just.
Speaker 1 (32:24):
I haven't heard about this specific gentleman, but I
do feel like I have heard fairlyrecently somewhere maybe
another podcast or somethingabout people.
Honestly, it could have beenreddit too.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Just yeah, messing around okay so this username is
ultra havens, um, and it is thetitle is.
I just received an email frommy dead dad and it was posted
under personal encounter.
My dad died six weeks ago.
Earlier this evening I receivedan email from his account.
It simply said check this out,followed by a copy, pasted
(32:55):
headline and a link to a newsarticle from two days ago
pertaining to the university Iwent to and a topic I care about
.
It was extremely, extremely.
It was exactly the type ofarticle that he would have
shared with me and we would havetalked about.
I rationally assumed that my mommust have sent it from the
computer which his email isstill logged into.
That makes sense.
But she told me that she didnot send it and had no knowledge
(33:17):
of the article or news inquestion.
She did share with me that shehad an encounter about an hour
before I received the email.
For context, my mom lives alonein the house she shared with my
dad.
I live about seven hours away.
She said that she heard thegarage door open and close and
got scared.
So she called our neighbor whotold her that she could only see
(33:38):
the light on in the garage.
But my mom checked the lightwas off.
She had recently had manypartial dreaming experience of
seeing and hearing his spirit.
I've also dreamt of interactingwith his spirit several times.
I'm always aware that he's deadin those dreams, but this email
is my favorite tangible andunexpected experience.
(33:58):
Has anyone out, has anyoneheard of ghost reading the news
or sending emails?
Edit Sorry.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I was actually just gonna say there's an edit with
an update, right I?
So I surf Reddit when I can'tsleep.
I have definitely read this one, okay, so there's a couple
edits.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Edit I did reply to the email with a message to him.
At it to the link was to alegit news website.
Don't worry guys, I'm aware ofphishing scams and know to be
weary of strange links andmessages.
The email was too eerilypersonal in nature.
Edit three I just checked foremail spoofing thanks to I don't
know what this user is, but andit appears it and it appears by
(34:38):
legitimately sent from hisGmail account from a local IP.
I'm going back to my parents'home at the start of May for
Memorial Gathering so I will beable to investigate my dad's
phone and computer and otherthings, and that's it.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
That's so funny, remember, because I told you I
was just reading about thissummer.
Recently I read that one, doyou?
Speaker 2 (34:58):
know why?
Because this was just postedvery, very recently.
So if you read, read it, readit.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I need water hold on, if you read, read it, read,
read it.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
It's easy enough to do but I thought that was kind
of a cool one because it hadit's crazy, because it had
everything that we just talkedabout like it had the email from
dan.
It had like some ghosty, weirdfeelings and then it had, like
he even put in there about thephishing email which is like
exactly how it let you down.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
No, the synchronicities were there.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
No, that's an interesting one so I think
that's definitely his dadbecause or her dad, whoever's,
because there's no way that momhad an experience of that
happening.
Like dad clearly walked, cameinto the garage and walked in,
did you went.
The computer got to send youthis link, son or daughter,
whoever you are, it's so cute.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Which too right.
Then you can make an argumentand not make an argument.
You could have the debate Isthis intelligent or residual?
Speaker 2 (35:54):
I mean the only thing , not the only, but I could go
both ways.
The reason that I would leanmore towards intelligent is
because I get that the routineof it would be residual, but
because it's like a new articleand like a new thing, I feel
like it's an intelligent right.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
I agree with you, but also like if he in the past
came down, sat down, pulled upan article and sent it to him,
because the only thing that mademe think residual is how you
said earlier, when he knew itwas his dad was um or her I
don't know if it's a male or,yeah, their parent it's the
exact type of article like mydad would send me.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
so this right, that's true, so it could out of the
norm.
So like I mean, you would neverknow, you could argue no, we
could debate this all night, butoh yeah, I thought that was a
fun one.
Okay, so this other one is fromProFmoxie ProFmoxie, I don't
know.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
Prof like professor.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Oh, profmoxie.
Yeah, when I'm reading it as ausername, it's all one and I'm
like what?
I got an email from a deceasedfriend and then this is under
the category or under thesubreddit advice needed.
I am really spooked.
Tonight I got an email from afriend who died two years ago.
The email is like this, andthen there's like a screenshot.
The screenshot was weird,though, so it didn't even make
(37:12):
sense to me, but and he kind ofmade up some names and stuff me.
Subject Thank you kindly, bodyfor the glimmer, a skull emoji,
a hammer emoji and then a brokenheart emoji.
That's fucking weird.
Skull hammer, broken heart,yikes.
(37:35):
So again for the glimmer, andthen those emojis that's so
cryptic for the sake of thispost, we'll call him jack von.
he passed away two years ago.
Before he died, we had afalling out and hadn't spoken in
15 plus years.
It wasn't a major falling out,just a disagreement, and we
drifted years.
It wasn't a major falling out,just a disagreement, and we
drifted apart, which was easy todo as we moved across the
(37:58):
country.
Don't imagine too much dramahere.
We're in our late 50s 60s.
We're too old for this crap.
We never exchanged emails usingmy current email address.
We were never friends on anysocial media and never texted.
I only found out he diedthrough a mutual friend on any
social media and never texted.
I only found out he diedthrough a mutual friend.
The email address this emailcame from is something similar
to preciousmusic68 at gmailcom.
(38:20):
It's not an address I know or aphrase I recognize.
I googled the Gmail address andfound it was associated with a
comment on a blog post from fiveyears ago.
Interestingly, that blog postis a picture tour of a park near
where my friend lived before hedied.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Oh weird.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
The front part of the email address, preciousmusic68,
is associated to a Discogsaccount.
My friend was a musician butthe name on the account is Doug
something, not my friend, andthere is no other info on the
profile that could be somethingelse entirely.
Otter still is.
This email address isglimmermynameatgmailcom.
(38:58):
The person that sent this emailhad to know the very specific
word.
Glimmer means a great deal tome and has for decades.
Speaker 1 (39:08):
I was wondering.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, not the actual word, but similarly unique one.
Obviously I know my friend isdead.
There was an obituary and Iread an article celebrating his
life and music by some of hisfriends.
As far as I know, this was nothis email address, but I can't
be sure of that fact.
The emojis are freaking me outa bit.
The message is oddly cryptic,like something he might have
(39:30):
written when I knew him poet,music type, but he couldn't.
But he could have not, oh myGod, but he could not have sent
it.
I would dismiss it as spam, butfor the fact that the message
uses such a unique oh my God,I'm done such a unique word for
me.
I don't think a spam generatorgoing through random Gmail
addresses is going to align theemail message and emoji.
(39:53):
So, specifically, what should Ido?
Is there any way I can learnmore?
Should I reply and ask who thisis?
Should I assume it's spam andstop freaking out?
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Okay.
So first of all, before you gettoo down on yourself for
stumbling over words, I thinkI've only helped you with one
word through this entire episode, so that's going to be like a
banner one I don't even remembernow, okay, but still that's.
It's.
That one is still really.
I think of all of them, thisone is like maybe the easiest
one to kind of explain away,just because it's like it's a
(40:24):
random word that could have just.
You know there's a lot of,there's probably hundreds of
words that if I just got it inan email I would be able to find
meaning in it, but it's stillvery strange.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Well, and I guess what's weird is that.
So somebody in the Redditcomments, though, was like well,
if your email is likeglimmerzackpalmer at gmailcom,
the auto like the hacked, likethe auto hack is going to think
you're glimmer, so it's going tosay glimmer or like whatever,
because we've all seen that typeof shit.
(40:56):
So they were like that isdefinitely a bot, like they
don't recognize what is actuallya name and what's not.
So it makes sense to be a bot.
But the weird part and is in hekind of like debated in the
argument or in the um comments,and he wasn't going either way,
he's just curious.
He was just saying I understandthat, but how would this person
(41:17):
, this Jack Vaughn, ever get myemail?
That's what he was so confusedabout, because, yes, the word is
so weird but he never had thisemail.
It was like a newer emailaccount that this guy would
never have.
Speaker 1 (41:30):
I think if there wasn't the pictures of the park
near his house, it would.
I would write this one awayeasier, but yeah, there's
definitely oddness to it.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
And then that's why he was saying like, well, I
really think it like I don'tknow if it's actual account, but
it was like the account itself,the email has something to do
with music, which he was amusician.
Then that one account wasattached to a profile picture
that was near him, like so, justvery weird.
But this one, I think you couldbe the easiest one to write off
as somebody just scamming you.
But it is really strange andjust really creepy, like for the
(42:01):
glimmer skull, hammer, brokenheart.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
That's so creepy we're gonna solve this one and
we're also gonna solve the callsfrom beyond the grave okay the
way we're gonna solve.
It is not gonna be soon,hopefully, and it's not when
we're dead cute.
Yes, okay, let's make a vowright now, whoever dies so funny
.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I was gonna ask you what?
Where are you gonna haunt mewhen you die first?
Speaker 1 (42:25):
oh, all the ways.
Let's be honest, like I'm nevergonna give you a moment of
peace again, I'm gonna poke yourbutthole a lot, only if it's
not watery.
I don't know how I I'm going toknow that Maybe you get x-ray
vision as a ghost, but no,whoever dies first.
The first thing you have to dois try to call and text and
email the other person and we'regoing to see which one comes
through first.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
So here's the thing, off the air, if you will, we'll
have to give each other like acode word that we would only
know as each other sending it tous I already know what my safe
word is going to be okay, Idon't know what mine is, but
I'll think about it, okay, soout of these, like basically
three stories, what are youleaning?
(43:06):
Hacked, you don't know, or thethe only one I'm?
Speaker 1 (43:11):
gonna say I don't know too.
Is number three same, um?
The first two are just sosimilar to other things we've
talked about.
Yep, um, the obviously thephantom calls sliding kind of
reminds me a bit too, because,like, if the living have the
ability to manipulateelectronics around them, that's
(43:32):
true, I would imagine a energyafterlife would also.
I would be interested, thoughit would be kind of cool to see,
like for both those individuals, if they spent a lot of time
doing the emails, because that'swhere my brain stuck on is to
me something like an email couldbe so residual if that was part
(43:57):
of your routine, if that dad,if his way of communicating with
his son at school was to comehome, open the garage, sit down
and send that email.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
It sounded like it kind of was something that he
would do and you can visualizeit.
It's weird because this is howI visualized it like okay.
So mom says that she heard thegarage door, she saw the light,
okay, and like I'm literallyvisually okay, he walks in the
garage so the light goes off.
He comes in, closes the door,goes to computer, sends the
email, right, she tells theneighbor that she's scared.
(44:29):
The neighbor's like the garagelight looks like it's on, but
mom goes and looks and it'sprobably already off because
it's already been censored.
Like my garage light stays onlike a minute or so after I walk
out.
Right, that's how I figure.
Like oh, like you know what Imean.
Like no, it's off now.
Well, yeah, because he alreadywalked through, he he'd been in
the house now emailing.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
I feel like I usually give a little bit more
skepticism to you no, becausethis is like an impelling yeah,
no, this one seems pretty legitcompelling, impelling compelling
, compelling um.
I said impelling, compellingare you sure, the first time I
said impelling, but what I willsay?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
I was scouring reddit and the interwebs for more
people that have had this happento them and I cannot fucking
find any, which makes it evenyes, what makes it even more
compelling to me is that itdoesn't happen that often that,
like quote unquote, dead peopleare emailing yeah, because I I
(45:23):
think a lot of those things thatwe see the same story over and
over again.
Speaker 1 (45:27):
You have to start to ask yourself, like, is this
folklore, is it beingexaggerated, right?
Speaker 2 (45:32):
that's what I mean, and so I was trying because I
was trying to put some in herethat would be like that's
definitely like that's hacked.
You was hacked, bro, but I itwas just hard.
Now, obviously, like you're.
My searches are like deadpeople being like sending emails
, emails from the dead, and it'sliterally like everyone pop up.
Be like what do you do aftersomebody?
What do you do with somebody'semail after they die?
It's like no, it's not, oh yeah, so it's like a lot of that.
I'd be like what do you doafter somebody?
(45:53):
What do you do with somebody'semail?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
after they die.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
It's like no, it's not what they're asking you.
So it was like a lot of that.
I'd be like paranormal emails,ghost emails.
And then it's like what is aghost email?
A ghost email is like no, fuckyou.
So I will say it was alsoreally hard to find the right
verbiage.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
But even Reddit didn't have too many that popped
up.
So I don't know Like I, likeyou said, I'm going to go with
the last one.
It's so fucking creepy that Iwant it to be real.
Speaker 1 (46:22):
But I could see that one being just like.
So if a ghost sends you a link,is it still called phishing?
Speaker 2 (46:27):
No, because it's not a phishing link.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
OK, well, I mean I'm setting it up for a pun here.
Would it still be fishing?
That's where you just say no Isaid no okay, what if it was
harbooing instead of harpooning?
Okay, there's a reason.
I'm not a stand-up comedian,but I could have at least gotten
a pity laugh there.
Thank you all right.
(46:52):
So I definitely think the firsttwo are a little paranormally,
and then the third one a coupleyears out of these shoppers and
by that I mean at least 45 to 50and we'll tell you one of us,
one of us will go maybe 60 yearswell, what am I?
36 now yeah, 96 would be a goodage okay, yeah, because tune in
(47:18):
60 years from now and we willtell you if this is true or not.
Actually sign up for our emaillist and we'll email you.
Speaker 2 (47:26):
Post death oh my god, we'll put all of the.
We can put all the Patreonsubscribers on our Dead man
Switch.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
Yes, I love that.
We'll just send them all theunedited footage so you can see
everything we've cut out.
That is the number one perk nowof being a Patreon.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
When we die, you get all the dirt.
But speaking of Patreon, youguys should come on over to
Patreon, marielle.
Actually I don't know if yousaw today she chatted They've
got snow where she is for likethe first time in three years,
oh gross.
She sent a picture of theOddity Shop mug in the snow,
like I have the perfect mug touse and I'm like that's so cute.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, it was cute.
Yeah.
I guess if you only get it onceevery few years, you're
probably excited.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
Yeah, so it was a cute picture.
I should repost it somewhere.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
And Kara's been forcing me to get better on
camera and I'm doing videos andstuff with her.
We got new things coming inthere.
Speaker 2 (48:17):
Yeah, we have a lot of fun stuff coming.
So if you want to join thePatreon, that would be fun.
I would love to get more peoplein there so that the chat keeps
going.
You know like we just all daycan like vibe and like send good
vibes messages to each other,perfect, okay, well.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Well, that is what I have for phishing scams, dead
people emailing letter emoji ohyeah, well, I don't know.
If there's an email, there's anenvelope oh yeah isn't like the
little email envelope thingylet's do that, some sort of
envelope, letter thing.
Well, no, I love how we alwaysstart specifically and we're
like what actually actually?
Whatever emoji.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
No, what you should do is skull hammer, broken heart
.
Speaker 1 (48:56):
There you go.
That's what I want.
Just email us, glimmer, we'llknow.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Skull hammer broken heart.
Speaker 1 (49:03):
Perfect.
Well, good job.
That one was definitelyinteresting.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
I can't wait to test it out.
I kind of took you all over.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, give me some medical.
And I really thought too whenyou were starting.
I'm like, you literally justcame up with a question so you
could tell me another story.
Cool, cool, I played that offvery well.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
You did good job no, for those obviously that don't
see us, which is everybody.
Zach's face was getting soannoyed because he's thinking
this intro is going so fuckinglong.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
We're like 15 minutes in.
People are tuning out I'mtuning out.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
He was.
He was starting to like lookaround like I'm glad I have such
a good poker you're likegrating your, like grating your
teeth, like, okay, you're liketrying so hard to interrupt me
so you'd be like here, shut thefuck up.
Like I'm gonna edit all of thisout yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 1 (49:46):
Wow, you are in my head okay with that how are we
closing the shop up?
Speaker 2 (49:51):
oh my god.
So yes, we've decided skullhammer broken heart broken heart
emoji.
That's how we I want you toglimmer is how I want you to
approach me with sign up for ourPatreon.
We've got cool things coming,thank you.
Thank you, guys.
I know we probably said on thelast episode, but thank you guys
so much for being cool andloving that we were replaying
some old episodes all January.
(50:12):
We really appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
But we're back and refreshing.
We have so much new stuffcoming.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
I know, okay, so that's really all I have for you
guys.
I love you so much.
Creep it real oh no, try again.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
I love you guys so much, but the most important
thing you can do is creep it.
(50:51):
Real Yadballs Goodbye V shop.
Hooked in the shadows At the IVshop At home with the oddballs
At the IV shop.
The door's always open At theIV shop.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.