July 31, 2025 • 53 mins
Welcome To The Oddity Shop, Where The Bizarre is Always on Sale. This week, your Curator Zach is deep diving in CERN, Particle Physics, and Conspiracies!
What happens when the brightest scientific minds on Earth build a machine that can tear apart the very fabric of reality. The scientific achievements of CERN and the Large Hadron Collider are undeniable. But, as we delve deeper into this world of quantum strangeness, we discover unsettling questions
Why does a statue of Shiva —the Hindu deity of cosmic creation and destruction—stand prominently at CERN's headquarters? What explains the disturbing ritual sacrifice video filmed on their premises in 2016? And could there be a connection between the activation of this godlike machine in 2008 and the emergence of the Mandela Effect in 2009?
When CERN's own scientists make cryptic statements like "out of this door might come something, or we might send something through it," should we dismiss it as metaphor, or take it as confirmation they're aware of what they're unleashing?
References:
- https://www.iflscience.com/conspiracy-theorists-think-cern-has-wild-plans-for-2024s-solar-eclipse-73694
- https://www.home.cern/science/accelerators/large-hadron-collider
- https://www.bbc.com/news/in-pictures-36428799
- https://mythdetector.com/en/does-cern-seeks-to-open-the-gates-of-hell-and-what-role-does-hindu-god-shiva-play-in-science/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wuolos/where_does_the_idea_that_cern_is_demonic_come_from/
- https://www.theregister.com/2009/11/06/lhc_dimensional_portals/
- https://www.theguardian.com/scienc
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
I want to dance with the Malt Men At the IA shop,
baked in the moonlight At the IAshop.
Creep through the graveyard Tothe IA shop.
The door's always open At theIA shop.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome back to the Oddity Shop Podcast, the podcast
where we Tell creepy, odd,weird, strange and bizarre
stories from around the world.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm your curator, cara, and this is your curator
zachary.
Hi, that's me, if you're newhere, if you're not new here,
then you know who we are idiotssorry straight idiots uh, how
are you?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I am surviving and recovering from a flesh wound,
another one, another one, butthis one didn't make me pass out
because, instead of the wound,being like Well, okay, here's
the thing I figured out, becausethis one didn't even freak me
out, even though it bled a lotagain.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I was kind of surprised when you texted me and
you didn't really.
That's why I didn't sayanything.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I put something together yesterday, okay.
So this one I sliced off theskin like a thick layer of skin
on the very tip of my finger.
Yeah, it's nasty.
The slice went across rightLike it shaved it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
yeah, it wasn't like a stab or a slash, it's the
slashing motion.
I think that gets to me.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
That gets you.
Yeah, because when you told methat you cut your finger, I was
like I'm'm not gonna ask howyou're doing about it and you
didn't say anything.
And then I was like okay.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And then you were like I'm just gonna cover it
with band-aids I was in full onso I did like a two-hour deep
clean of the bathroom, like thebleach and everything like it's
also like cleaning product.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
How did you cut it again?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I have, um, I use a safety razor to shave, yeah, so,
like the like the old fashionedrazors, and it's on a stand
that it slides into.
While I was like dusting stuffon that shelf, I knocked it.
It fell off and I reached outto catch it.
Yep, luckily it was just thetip of my finger.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm surprised that by trying to catch it, well, I
guess, yeah, well, because sowhen you use it at an angle.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I caught it straight on very quickly.
It could have been a lot worse.
At least it wasn't like themiddle of my hand.
But yeah, so I do clean thebathroom.
I also I don't know if you cansee the new thing on my altar I
don't think I've told you aboutthis little floral arrangement
that I bought.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't believe you have.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So it's a little rose and it's all pretty with some
flowers.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I bought this, though , at a Grand Rapids Pride
Festival.
Is it a floral arrangement withpretty flowers?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yes, in a popper's bottle.
Oh God, that's funny.
Which I thought was hilariousthis guy had all sorts of these
in different popper bottles $20.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
That's kind of a lot All sorts of these.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
How much was that In different popper bottles?
20 bucks, that's kind of a lot.
Also, they made a donation of30% of it to the Trevor Project.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh, okay, never mind, it should have been more.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, no, it was good cause it was a cute little
local vendor and I just thoughtit was hilarious because you
don't see that kind of shiteverywhere.
No, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
All it everywhere.
No, that's funny, so all right,cute.
Um, I have nothing really newexcept for yesterday it was
pouring rain out.
Yes, it was, and I cannot gosit like my deck's not covered,
but my porch is like an enclosed.
What do you call it like anenclosed porch?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I don't know it has like a built in porch over it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah so I can sit out on my porch and I don't get wet
.
So last night until almost 10o'clock I was just out on the
porch with my laptop't get wet.
So last night until almost 10o'clock I was just out on the
porch with my laptop and all mystuff, just doing all of our
socials and just doing stuff,and it was so nice and peaceful.
I probably looked crazy though,but it was nice and peaceful.
And then I met a little frog.
(03:59):
He just jumped right out ofnowhere and then I was talking
to the frog.
I forgot to send you a picture.
I send it to you.
He's cute little hands.
I know, oh god, I know, can youget one?
I used to have frogs well, youdon't have them now and I need
them now.
So then, my bird, you know mylittle bird, my fern bird, susie
q.
She just kept popping up andtweeting at me.
It was just like so nice, itwas very snow white yours.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
you're doing better than me.
We had a cardinal trapped inour porch this week, oh yeah,
and that little baby was nothappy.
So the thing was it came in thedoor on the side, but it could
see its nest out the frontwindow.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And it kept dashing into the.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
How did you end up getting it?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
out.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Julia ended up kind of coaxing it with a towel.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So, but we do Now.
I know it's chirp, though, so Ican hear it from my bedroom
window I mean, at least it gotout and it's okay, true very
true, I know.
Would you name her?
I don't think we did, oh I'm sosurprised yeah, no, usually
julia does name some of the thelocal critters.
She probably did.
I'll ask her fair, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
All right, let's get going.
Boo boo, all right, you readyto open the shop?
Up then with a question.
You're opening the shop.
Are you ready?
All right, you ready to openthe shop?
Up then with a question, you'reopening the shop up.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Are you ready for your question, so I can open the
shop.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Did you not see my face?
I was like wait, I already went.
It's not my episode, we're juststarting with a question.
What's my question?
Are you?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
ready.
What's my question?
What causes Mandela effects?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh, oh, well, well, well, how do I articulate this?
It's basically just we'regetting fucked up, whether it's
like the government fucking usup, aliens fucking us up, but
like we.
The timelines are not right.
The years are shorter, themonths are shorter, the weeks
are shorter.
Something's fucked up and it'serasing patches of time okay, or
(05:40):
it's moving patches of timesomewhere else you don't think
it's just faulty memory.
No fucking way, don't even getme started.
You're pissing me off already.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, good, we're already on the same side of this
one.
This is not an episode, though,entirely about Mandela effects.
I promise you that, thankfully,deep underground, beneath the
peaceful countryside ofSwitzerland and France, there's
a machine larger than any knownmachine in our human lifetime,
and it is smashing atoms,together with the force of
(06:11):
cosmic creation, on an officialquest to unlock the secrets of
the universe.
But some believe it's doingsomething might be, or maybe,
darker like opening portals,summoning ancient forces or even
bending reality itself.
And tonight we're headingstraight, first, straight, first
, straight forward.
We're running right into, justlike the atoms inside the
(06:33):
machine, cern's Large HadronCollider.
Have you heard of this machine?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I don't think so.
No, well, maybe just not bythat name.
I don't know.
Do they just call it Surge?
Maybe just not by that name, Idon't know, sir, do they just
call it surge?
Cern C-E-R-N.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yep, I don't know.
So they have this giant machineunder Switzerland that is
smashing atoms together likebeyond the speed of light to
discover.
Oh, ok, I'm just gonna stoptalking because you're going to
learn as we go.
I don't know why I'm gettingahead of myself.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
CERN stands for the council.
No, this is French ConcealEuropean pour la recherche
nucléaire.
Murdered that, absolutely.
I can't do French, but inEnglish it's the European union
for nuclear research and it'slocated in geneva.
So when we're talking nuclearresearch, we're not talking bomb
, we're talking like be belowatoms, right the nuclear
(07:32):
physicist, like particles.
okay, according to wikipedia, itis an intergovernmental I'm
here, okay, carrie anintergovernmental organization
that operates the largestparticle physics laboratory in
the world.
Established in 1954, it'scomprised of 24 member states
(07:54):
from europe and in 2013, theyadmitted israel as well uh, the
only non-european which probablya touchy subject right now.
Um, but cern's main function isto provide the particle
accelerator machine, which isthe other name for the large
hadron collider, which you mayhave heard of, okay, yeah, or
(08:14):
other infrastructure needed forhigh energy physics.
Consequently, they've done likea ton of experiments at cern
and other, their internationallike laboratories, but at their
headquarters on site is wherethe large hadron collider is at
CERN and other, theirinternational laboratories, but
at their headquarters on site iswhere the Large Hadron Collider
is.
We're going to call it the LHCfor the rest of this, because I
can only say that so many timesLHC.
(08:34):
And that's the particleaccelerator.
It's the world's largest and ithosts a large computing
facility, the machine itself andit's primarily used to store,
carry out and analyze all sortsof experiments and simulate
cosmic events.
Okay, to put that like reallyyeah, I see your eyes.
(08:55):
To put it really easy tounderstand it's a giant research
center focused on physics hassome really big findings that
have reshaped how we look atnuclear physics and how we
understand the world and how wegot here and things at a
subatomic level.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So I'm sorry, did you say when this started?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yes, 1954 CERN.
Ok, CERN is the organizationthat has the LHC.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, so thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Here's some of this, like their key findings.
So the Higgs boson that wasdiscovered using the LHC in 2012
.
It is the particle that givesother elementary particles mass.
They kind of called it the Godparticle.
It was something that was onlytheorized for a long time and
was a huge finding when theyproved it Interesting Okay, in
(09:41):
83, they also discovered the Wand B bosons.
It Interesting, okay.
In 83, they also discovered theW and B basons.
These particles mediate weaknuclear force and that, like
physics beyond me, they were abig discovery.
In 1973, they were able toprove weak neutral currents,
which showed a close similaritybetween weak and electromagnetic
interactions and a majorunderstep in just understanding,
(10:04):
like fundamental forces of theuniverse.
1995 they discoveredanti-hydrogen um, which is a
type of antimatter.
They basically have created ourstandard model of particle
physics and then alternativelyalso cern.
In 1989 um under the directionof tim Berners-Lee, invented the
(10:28):
World Wide Web.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Wow, yeah, I'm just like trying to comprehend
everything you just told me.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
These are the people who are doing this science to
figure out how things workbeyond the naked eye.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I've heard of CERN when you break it down, because
I think people just call it cernbecause it's definitely easier,
but um, I don't, yeah, okayokay, the lhc, right?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
that's basically the most famous machine at cern
that's doing all the experiments.
Okay, so it's the particleaccelerator.
It was built by cern between1998 and 2008.
Over,000 scientists work on it,hundreds of universities are
involved, over 100 countries.
It's in a tunnel that is 17miles in circumference and as
(11:12):
deep as 175 meters, or almost600 feet, beneath the French and
Swiss border, near Geneva.
Think about that 17 milescircumference.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I was going to ask you how big it is.
That's not what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
This thing is absolutely massive.
It's the biggest machine builtby man Dang so and what they do
is they use massive magnets tojust smash atoms into each other
.
Sounds super safe, right.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But also it just sounds crazy, like to me, like
you're just smashing things intoeach other.
What is that doing?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So here we just smashing things into each other.
What is that doing so?
But clearly it's doing a lot.
The collider has four crossingpoints where accelerated
particles collide, ninedetectors in each designed to
detect different phenomena andtheir position specifically
around the crossing point.
So what they do is they takebeam proton beams, but it can
also accelerate beams of heavyions like lead and protons, and
like smashes them together tounderstand what happens when the
(12:08):
atoms break apart and what thesubatomic features do when they
collide.
Okay, so they basically havephysicists who are giving
predictions and testing theorieson particle physics and they're
like this kind of like.
The subatomic physics to me isjust like playing around as god,
like I feel like there'scertain fundamental building
(12:31):
bricks that like we can theorizeabout, but it's a whole
different thing to play withthese things yeah, or like
should we be playing with thesethings?
which is what we're going totalk about a bit, but so it's
generally accepted purchaseright.
It's furthering scientificunderstanding, answering deep
questions about matter, energy,time in the universe.
(12:51):
There's the most easy way I cansay it.
But with many things in scienceand nature, when things are
harder for the normal person tounderstand and we're playing
with the building blocks ofexistence itself, there's
definitely a mysteriousconspiracy, shadowy reputation
to this place.
Yikes like.
(13:12):
I mean.
This is a perfect place toreally breed fear and how many
people have died there?
um, do you go over that?
None that I know of.
However, there is actually andI don't think I have this in
here, but this is just a funfact I know there is a guy who
stuck his head into the machinewhen it got turned on and he got
hit with a beam through thehead.
Massive amounts of radiationshould have killed him and he
(13:36):
actually survives.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Why did he stick his head in there?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He didn't think the machine was on.
He was supposed to be workingon it.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I think they turned it on when he was in there or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But yeah, he's one of the they.
There's no explanation for howhe should have survived.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Wow, okay, that's, that's fucked up okay, not only
is this a place that perfectlybreeds these things just by what
they're doing, their ownbranding and art choice and um
names of experiments makes themlike it takes it from being
unintentionally creepy to likeactually straight up strange.
So I want to talk to you aboutthe conspiracies, but let's talk
(14:16):
about why these conspiracieseven exist first.
Okay, okay, let's start with,uh, the god Shiva.
Okay, mm-hmm.
So this is what usually givepeople a strange feeling about
CERN being up to some secretiveor ritualistic stuff, because
the god Shiva is basically theirmascot.
Oh, so on June 18th 2004, theyunveiled their new statue at its
(14:42):
headquarters, a two-meter tallstatue of the Indian god.
I like needle better.
Gift from the Indian governmentyou would carry If you know.
You know.
So this statue, though.
It depicts the deity in itsNataraja form, or the cosmic
dance, which is supposed tosymbolize what they're doing
(15:05):
with the particles colliding andtransforming.
In Hinduism, it's important tonote that Shiva, one of the most
important deities, is known asthe destroyer and the creator of
the universe.
Little bit, little bit on thenose.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
But whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh no, go on.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I'm just like thinking Just continue.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Okay, you just keep thinking.
So I I mean, I think it's alittle bit weird.
I I get, and I think whatyou're gonna start to go at is
they are doing work on physicsand the building blocks, the
universe, so it makes sense theyhave the creator and the
destroyer.
But like kind of they're alsodoing things to literally
replicate.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Replicate rep here's what's happening the timelines
are getting fucked up and ourbrains are not working because
we're talking about thisreplicate you hinted about it
last week's episode and my braingot all discombobulated.
And now I can't talk and nowyou can't talk, you're fucking
with us so replicate and createliteral black holes, dude so the
(16:09):
statue could be in reverence tothese people trying to play god
and mess with things that theyshouldn't do.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I mean it just oh, you had a well no, I just, I
just don't, I just don't, Idon't know so, according to
their website, the Shiva statuewas a gift from India to
celebrate its association withCERN, which started in the 1960s
and remains strong today.
So the Lord Shiva practiced theNataraja dance, which also
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symbolizes not only creation anddestruction, but Shakti, or
life force.
So the deity was chosen by theIndian government because of a
metaphor that was drawn betweenthe cosmic dance of the Nataraja
and the modern study of thecosmic dance of subatomic
particles.
That's how they explain it.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm surprised, though , that they let them use her as
their representation.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
They gifted it.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I know, I don't know why I'm surprised about that.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So they're not part of CERN, but they've worked very
closely with.
I think it was a symbol ofrespect.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
OK.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But others are like hey, you know, this is like
proof that they're doing darkuniverse manipulating tactics.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well, right, but also , like you know, like, when you
think of like other cultures andlike their gods and goddesses,
they're so sacred like you cancan't even talk, like they don't
even let people outside liketalk about them, like they're
just so sacred and so likeimportant that it's just like I
don't know.
It's weird to me that theywould.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Hinduism might be a little bit different, though.
I'm sure I feel like they'revery they want to share about it
.
They want to share their.
Yeah, I mean, there's multipledeities and like it's a to have
a symbol of it is kind of likean honor, okay.
So that's like one reason whywe have conspiracies.
The other is just researchinginto the great unknown.
(17:52):
Right.
So they push physics andscience.
They've been creating andobserving things like
anti-matter dark matter, darkenergy, many black holes, which
I think is like a little bitalarming as a person who doesn't
fully understand it.
But I would rather usunderstand it than trying to
create something we don't trulyunderstand.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Do you, or maybe you get into this what was like
their first?
What was the reason that theyfirst built this or came
together?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Was there like Just learn about the subatomic
particles.
That was just it Okay, okay so alot of it was only theory.
Physicists were only able totheorize.
You know, beyond proton,neutron, electron, what are the
parts that make up those atoms,right, and why do they act the
way they do?
Because we have things likehave you ever heard of the
double slit experiment, whereatoms act differently?
(18:42):
It's proven that they actdifferently when they're
observed rather than whenthey're not.
This is the stuff it's tryingto answer.
Okay, back to the great unknownstuff, though they're not
helping with the way they namethese experiments, so let's go
through some.
Yeah, see Alice, a large ioncollider experiment, but some
connect it to Alice inWonderland, interpreting it for
(19:05):
the metaphor of going down therabbit hole right, alternate
realities we have Atlas, namedafter the Greek titan who held
up the sky.
Some see this as symbolic ofhumans challenging divine
authority or holding up theheaven.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I could see that Okay .
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Then we have Methuselah massive timing
hodoscope for ultra-stableneutral.
I could see that Okay.
Then we have Methuselah Massivetiming hodoscope for
ultra-stable neutral particles,but the name obviously
represents Methuselah, abiblical figure said to have
lived for 969 years and promptstheories about time and
mortality or manipulating thefabric of existence.
We have experiment totem, total, elastic, ancestral
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connotations right, leading tospeculation about like occult or
ancient practices, right.
My favorite one I feel likethis is the most Star Trek-y one
.
We have Phaser.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Phaser.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
For word.
It's the A in word.
I don't know, is the A inPhaser Search experiment the R
in experiment?
Like they're stretching forthis one.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I was just going to say this one.
The rest all kind of lined up,but what?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
They think this is like hidden military tech or
like exotic intense energymanipulation.
The third and final ingredientof our conspiracies is the human
sacrifice.
Shut the fuck up.
Oh yeah, dude.
So only one.
Ok, maybe that is all on filmand it's it's very likely.
(20:44):
I'm going to rip the bandaidoff.
It's very likely fake, but it'sstill fucking weird.
Okay, so in 2016, there's avideo which was leaked and
circulated online, which showsseveral individuals in black
coats gathering in the mainsquare of their headquarters to
reenact, or enact, an occultceremony the ceremony sacrifice.
(21:07):
This sounds familiar so it'sshot from the point of view of a
secret viewer watching fromlike a window above the
courtyard.
Um, and now the courtyard we'retalking about is the
headquarters where shiva is,okay, so he's standing there and
you see torches around thestatue of shiva and like a group
of 10 people dressed in robesleading a woman dressed in white
(21:29):
and wearing a flower crown tokneel in front of the statue
yeah, this sounds vaguelyfamiliar, okay hold on, let me
get through this and then thengive me your thoughts.
She proceeds to lay down and allthose in the robes kneel around
her, except for the onestanding at the front.
He pulls out a large knife andappears to stab her.
At this point, the personfilming it freaks off, takes out
(21:50):
running, or freaks out, takesoff running, and you don't see
anything more.
Ok, give me your thoughts.
So far.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
She thought it was a reenactment.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
God only knows, because right from when the
knife goes down is when you seenothing more.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
OK, so this video.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
If it was a reenactment, why would he have
freaked out and ran?
We'll get to that in a second.
The video obviously takes offlike this is 2016 internet.
It gains popularity and aspokesperson from CERN actually
makes a comment about it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I gotta watch this.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
They stated that the video was a prank oh, I just
linked in the notes and thatnobody was actually harmed.
Why would they prank.
In its FAQ online that the videowas fiction and the actions
were outside CERN's professionalguidelines and without any
official permission.
They also state that they donot tolerate this kind of spoof
(22:41):
and that it can give rise tomisunderstandings about the
scientific nature of our work.
But here's the deal.
It was filmed in the maincourtyard in front of the actual
statue, so to be able to getinside there you have to have an
access badge.
So whoever created this,whether it was real or fake,
they're involved with CERN.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
They have intimate access to the headquarters so
the person looking above, likewherever that view is, you don't
have to be in, you don't haveto have badge access.
So yes, you do.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Is that what we're saying?
Oh, everybody would have had to, so even the person filming let
me watch this real quick.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh it's.
I don't know if this would befake.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It's a weird video for sure, and the same
spokesperson who made that quoteearlier said that they were
never going to ID the personresponsible.
They would only say it was aninternal matter and they were
investigating it, but they don'tprovide more details.
But if you had to have a badgeto get in there, they know, did
it yeah, and I'm like like fromthe video you, oh yeah, he like
freaks out it's really short.
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I urge you guys actually all topause this.
If you're just watch it, soyou're not driving watch yeah,
just so you can know what we'retalking about.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It is very weird because it doesn't.
I don't know.
I mean, you could stage pranksvery well, but to me that
doesn't look like.
I don't understand why thatwould number one be a prank.
I don't know why you'd bereenacting a sacrifice.
That's fucking weird.
I mean I just don't know whythey would be doing that.
And the the shaky video, likethe whole, the person recording
is like shaking oh yeah, no, heseems they are.
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They seem generally freaked outI listened to it without volume,
so I don't know.
But like he, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's okay, weird.
So this is where I want to stop, before we get into the
conspiracies.
There's two camps, right, it'sjust a highly technical place
where super smart people arestudying physics at a level we
don't understand.
Therefore, we get scared and wemake theories, or while doing
real silent or science, they'realso giving enough evidence that
there's something creepy anddarker going on.
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Where are you at right now?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
why do you have to ask?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
well, kara is obviously going the conspiracy
route.
She always does everyone else.
I want you to figure out whereyou are right now.
Maybe leave us a comment whereyou're thinking at this point.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Okay, here's, if you're watching on youtube,
anytime we as humans get anysort of power, whether that's a
political power, acting,whatever, scientific what, being
a cop, scientific what, any,any type of power, it can really
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shape our stupid little brainsall you have to do is look at
the science or the Stanfordprison experiments to see all
the proof you need of that.
So I just feel like, even ifthis started as like a good
thing or not necessarily, but Iguess it could still be a good
thing, I don't know If itstarted as, just like scientists
(25:37):
being scientists, you'restarting to get all that power.
You know that God-like feeling,like holy shit, this is working
.
And like the strength of likeah, you, you can starting to get
all that power.
You know that godlike feeling,like holy shit, this is working.
And like the strength of like,you can tend to turn more dark
or whatever, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
if I'm articulating this the way, To put it really
easy, you can see the path thatsomebody would go down when
they're playing with thebuilding blocks of life, that
they can get a little bit ofcarried away, whether they have
positive or negative intentions.
It might come from curiosity,but holy shit, this stuff, we
don't understand it.
Maybe we should stop shovingthese things into each other to
try to understand.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I mean as like a dumb trying to be relatable thing.
Think about even just like youand I and we're not doing
anything malicious or harmful.
But what I mean is, before wereally did like investigations,
we were kind of nervous, right.
We're like, oh my God, like wedon't know if we really want to
be involved in investigations.
Like we love it from afar, welove watching and talking about
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it and like doing research, butdo we want to be the people that
do investigations?
And now we're getting paid todo investigations and we are not
even like, like we don't evensecond guess it, we don't even
have a fear, we're just likecool, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
But that mentality something you should have
reverence for becomes normalized.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You start acting different yes, and that
mentality is going to get us introuble one day.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I promise you that oh yeah, that are our mouths.
Come on, let's be for real okay,so so let's get into the top
three conspiracies surroundingcern in the lhc there's only
three or top three, top okayyeah, and honestly they're all
almost one in the same and theyall have hundreds of little
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parts, okay, so I tried to justgroup them the best I could.
So the first is that they'retrying to open a portal and
summon entities through um.
This theory states that cern,through actions at the subatomic
level, is trying to open aportal to either another
dimension, a pair, to paralleluniverse or another spiritual
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realm.
So why we think this?
The physicists there haveopenly discussed higher
dimensions, multiple dimensions,string theory and possible
gravitational leaks from thesedimensions into our realm I, I
guess.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
But for those things, why wouldn't you start like
researching that and trying tolike?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
because you don't fucking know what you're letting
in.
Look at again I understand.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Let's put this into our perspective.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
When you and I first started in the first five
episodes, we talked about shitwe didn't understand.
We talked about demonic shitand things started getting crazy
in our houses.
We played with something wethought we understood and had
bad consequences.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Okay, but what I'm saying is, if you're a scientist
and you're trying to researchthese types of things and figure
them out, why wouldn't you?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Because the fate of the world, if you-.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
But they're probably not thinking that way, I know.
That's my but okay, I'm nottrying to be argumentative or to
debate you.
No, no, this is good If if youwere them, why wouldn't you do
these things so?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
which also gives more credence to the fact that these
conspiracies are probably right, because I don't think yes, I
was to say I don't know if thatthere's a net in here.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I don't know if that would be a conspiracy.
That's probably fact because Iguess in their heads like why
wouldn't you do that?
Why wouldn't we try to either?
They haven't admitted it andthat's why it's conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well, yeah, more evidence.
On this one, the higgs boson.
We talked about this earlier.
They sometimes call it the godparticle, and this has the
potential.
This particle has the potentialto create the conditions for,
and be able to observe, awormhole, or properties of
wormholes, which, again, we'remessing with things bigger now,
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that freaks me out.
Yeah, so the fears are that theexperience would summon dark
matter creatures or otherworldly entities right by
opening up a portal.
I don't want to worms.
No Well, wormholes are like.
I know Inner, I know Spacetravel, that's just.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I'm just kidding Did, I'm just kidding Did you really
think?
I thought it was worms.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
No, this stuff just stresses me out.
Okay, so the reasons theoristscome up with this right is that
they're trying to make contactwith beings in other worlds or
dimensions to gain some sort ofknowledge, access higher states
of consciousness or unlockinterdimensional travel.
Which, come on, every good cultconspiracy has like fourth
dimension shit.
They're playing God right.
Fourth dimension shit, they'replaying god right.
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They think they're trying torecreate things like the big
bang or like the conditions forit to open these portals.
Some also think that theirultimate goal is to collapse our
current world to make way forthe new one.
Some like real illuminati levelshit here I mean we could use a
new world right and they're kindof using like a controlled
chaos to bring about the newworld, enabling the new order.
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New world order.
Okay, and I think the darkestof these theories really goes
into the the suggestion thatcern is intentionally trying to
bring something through a deity,an ancient evil, the watcher
type entity, beliefs that tie tobiblical and occult narratives
about end times, fallen angelsor the antichrist.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Okay you know what, bring it on.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I mean oh this place is weird.
This place always just it'sgiving me the heebie-jeebies.
We'll talk about some otherstories that end.
But let's go to like majorconspiracy number two, and you
see what I mean about how, likeit's a whole bunch of different
conspiracies.
I'm just trying to like pushthem into a couple categories, I
guess.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Well, because I mean they all kind of like coincide
in a way.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yes, ish so this one is in regards to lhc's ability
to create mini black holes, andthat's kind of one of the most
persistent and, they say, quoteunquote misunderstood concept
feeling conspiracies.
The hypothesis here, if webreak it down, is that if extra
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dimensions exist, as issuggested by string theory, then
the energy threshold for ablack hole or the creation of a
black hole would be lower thanexpected in modern day physics
standards.
So the LHC collides protons atnearly the lightest speed,
recreating the conditions of theearly universe, and there's in
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this theory potential that whatthey're doing could create a
black hole literally in themiddle of Earth.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
If there was a black hole in the middle of the earth,
would you?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
go in it.
If they do this and they createa black hole, nobody has a
choice.
We're all in it and we're allgonna figure out exactly what
happens.
But if you had a choice?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
you don't have a choice.
No, but if just say, just sayjust, the black hole just opened
up in the middle of the earthand it was just in there.
Everything around it is fine,would you go in it or would you
stay here?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'm gonna go in that black hole.
How much whiskey have I had?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I'm getting fucked.
You can have as much as youwant.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I'm jumping in that I mean when I have to make the
decision because, like, let's behonest, after a couple of
fashions, I'm going in, yeah,but would you rather be here?
You know, it's kind of one ofthose things of like the evil,
you know what, if it's like thisis, you know, human eating
worms on the other side, but itis worms, so worms from beetle
juice.
No, seriously, though, but itlike they're saying that
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basically they have created theconditions of mini black holes,
but like, that to me is ismessing with power like what's a
mini black hole, exactly, Imean like, yeah, um, so there
was actually a lawsuit in 2008trying to stop cern and the lhc
from running, citing this as themain fear.
Now, right, we don't know that.
Every sci-fi movie has shownsomething different.
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You either get compressed right, you get obliterated, you go
into nothingness when you go toblack hole.
But some people do claim thatthey did create a black hole and
that we're living in asimulation or a parallel
timeline now, after we've beensucked, in which is why the
world hasn't felt quite rightand timelines don't.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I can get down on that.
So basically we just didn'teven know, we got sucked in and
it's just like a it's kind oflike the show Lost.
Here's the thing I never watchthat bullshit Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm going to spoil it .
I'm going to spoil it foreverybody, okay.
So if you're going to watch itand you've had two decades,
pause me now skip ahead.
But the whole thing is they'rein a plane that lands on a
remote island after a planecrash.
They're all in purgatory.
They've been dead the wholetime, but nobody realized it.
If this major shift happened,it would be like that, like we
just don't know that we've goneinto a parallel.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I didn't know that.
About that, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
What a dumb show right, so like it, dude, it
doesn't feel like the sameuniverse, though, like you know
this, you and I talk about this.
This doesn't feel like the same.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
This is, let me let me talk to these scientists,
because this is what I wantCreate another fucking one, put
us on another black hole in adifferent world, because this
one ain't it which?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
leads perfectly into theory number three that this
has happened multiple times.
And conspiracy number threesuggests that CERN and the LHC
is the reason why humansexperience the Mandela effect.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I mean, I get that.
That 100% makes sense.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
But how many times do they think this has happened?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
That we don't know, right, okay, okay.
So for anybody who doesn't knowthe Mandela effect and why it's
called, this is actually really, really important for another
point we're going to make.
So it's a phenomena where largegroups of people remember
events or facts differently thanwhat the historical record
shows.
It's named after Nelson Mandelaand a lot of people recalling
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that he died in prison in the80s, despite the fact that he
was released and became SouthAfrica's president.
Okay, there's a whole bunch ofother ones, right Berenstain,
berenstein, fruit of the Loomlogo.
Hamlet Cornucopia, monopoly man, man with his monocle you're
instantly making me angry sowhat do they have to do with
each other?
so the theory goes is that withall the work they're doing
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finding these god particles,researching dimensions and all
sorts of other string theorycraziness it's caused our
reality to cross and merge withother timelines and other
realities.
This causes the large numbersof people right to remember
things different from the waythey were because of the way the
mergers happened.
So we were in a timeline whereNelson Mandela died in prison.
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We've somehow smashed withanother timeline or dimension.
To quote my favorite Doctor whowibbly, wobbly, timey, wimey.
Shit has now happened andeverything just works slightly
differently.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, I mean, but I'm just wondering how?
Because CERN was established inwhat?
53?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
54.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
So I'm just wondering , by the time they made Black
Hole, it's probably what when dothey think they made a Black
Hole?
Do you know?
60.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
These two things don't have to necessarily, it
doesn't have to necessarily bethe black hole, I know, but I'm
just trying to think.
They've never confirmed nordenied it.
They've said they've createdthe conditions for.
Hold on, though.
I think I might have the answerfor you.
The Ney-Mandela effect wasfirst coined in 2009 by a
paranormal researcher namedFiona Broom.
So Broom had the false memoryof Nelson Mandela dying in
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prison in the 80s, even thoughhe was released in 1990, died in
2013.
So she discovered this beforehe died, which is wild, which is
when a lot of people started topoint it, right.
So this was when 2009,.
She coined the term MandelaEffect.
Wow, okay.
So she discovers that a bunchof other people share the false
memory.
Right, but it wasn't reallydiscovered that people shared
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this false memory until 2009.
So in the same year, we know,she created a website to
document and explore thephenomenon.
Okay, the Large Hadron Colliderturned on for the first time in
2008.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
So the very next year is when the Mandela effect
starts to be researched.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So I'm just wondering how many times this has
happened.
So if we were to go through asa side project, we'd have to
write down all the major.
I don't think we'd be able toknow how many times it happened.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Mandela's.
And when you're talking aboutmultiple realities, it's
happening across, right?
If it's happening in ours, it'salso happening in others and
it's constant.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Well, I want to know how many times I don't care
about y'all Me.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, I have a couple more fun facts for you that
make it just like it justfurther.
The strangers here wait.
Do you want to talk any moreabout the conspiracies?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
um no, I mean, I just don't know if they're
necessarily conspiracies.
They're only conspiraciesbecause we nobody is talking
about them openly and publiclyand they're being hush about it
I know we can't, I'm just sayinglike, I just don't think that
they're conspiracies, I thinkthat that is they're true.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I I think the better word than conspiracies is highly
probable accidental sideeffects if it's not the direct
effect of what they'reresearching.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, here's what's crazy to me, and I'm sure
there's, I don't know, ok.
So like, for example, they'redoing this experiment, this
stuff, where are they located?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
again, it's on the France and Swiss Geneva, uh,
geneva, geneva, thank you so,okay, cool, so they're doing the
shit in geneva.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So, like, theoretically, us here, we
should like, we don't even care,you do your experiments there
because, like, you're all acrossthe world, right, like you no,
listen, just let me finish.
Okay, so you're all across theworld, theoretically, I don't
really give a shit what you'redoing, but because it affects,
like, potentially, the universe,the planet, the world, that's
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where it's like, how are youallowed to do that?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
because 54 countries have come together and agreed to
do it right, but I just don'tunderstand why.
But like and I think that's whythey have the lawsuits to stop
it.
Because it is like the samething of what you said would be
like if China was drilling tothe core of the earth and
putting a bomb down there.
Sure, it's on the other side ofthe world, but it affects it,
right?
It?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
affects everybody, so it's different.
So like if, if you were doingthis and I keep thinking
Princess of Genovia- I know.
Ok, so if you're the princessof Genovia and you're just like
in a bomb, you're like fuck it.
I want to bomb Genovia, cool,fine, bomb Genovia, because it's
probably not going to affect us.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, it's geographically limited or
limited?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
But I'm just saying OK, but now you're doing things
that affect the universe.
Absolutely fucking everybody.
I just don't be.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I just don't understand how you should be
allowed to do that, but whatever, that's beyond me.
Let's theorize about it, let'snot.
Okay, fun facts ready.
Yeah, uh, in 2004, cern begantesting the newly upgraded LHC.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
So last year, 2004 uh-huh, they did a bunch of last
year 2024 sorry you said 2004last year.
What fucking timeline are we onnow?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
2024?
Oh god, god only knows.
It's 2005 for me, no 2024.
So last year, do you rememberthe total solar eclipse?
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's whenthey decided to turn it back on.
Oh, I wonder why.
Yeah, so they have a history ofdoing it during odd either
cosmic or weird earthquakes.
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You can line up theseexperiments with odd times
constantly no, are they justsaying it's coincidence, um?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
or they're not saying anything.
Some say it's coincidence or nolike the lac cern.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, I don't say anything people say it's
coincidence or that there'smassive amounts of energy from
these events that they'reharnessing or I think it's
energy yeah, so one person, uh,you may have heard this name
before.
His name is alistair crowley.
He made contact, apparently,with a demonic entity called
awas a-i-w-a-s-s, uh, in 1904,in april, uh, april 8th, 19.
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Okay, so they think that thisis who.
Cern might be attempting tocontact the deity through the
portals by tying up with some ofthese cosmic.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
They're trying to get to Alistair Crowley.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
No, they're trying to get to the demonic entity he
was talking about.
That's one of those things thatthey were maybe trying to pull
through.
Yeah, I just wanted to clarify.
Um, and there's people who do alot of tie together about the
cosmic events that are happening.
Right, compared to lhc, it'sbeyond what we can get into in
the hour that we got.
Okay, a top researcher at thelhc says that the titanic
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machinery may possibly create ordiscover previously unimagined
scientific phenomena or unknownunknowns, for instance, an extra
dimension is basically a directquote from a scientist, so we
know right there that they don'teven know what they're they're
playing with.
He goes on to quote out of thisdoor might come something, or
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we might send something throughit, and this is from physicist
sergio bertolucci, who is thedirector for research and
scientific computing.
Um, and he said this whilebriefing reporters, including,
like some really really bignames, at their headquarters in
2009 okay, read that quote to meyeah, out of this door might
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come something or we might sendsomething through it.
This was after he was talkingabout.
The machinery may possiblycreate or discover previously
unimagined scientific phenomenaor unknowns.
Unknowns, for instance, anextra dimension.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Listen, they literally said that I'm going to
shove you right through thatdoor.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Oh my God, Tell me what happens.
December 18th 2016,.
The CERN Axion Solar Telescopecalled CAST took advantage of a
rare astronomical alignment whenthe sun aligned with a
supermassive black hole at thecenter of the Milky Way.
This alignment allowed theresearchers to search for
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hypothetical particles likeaxions and chameleons, which
could provide insights.
In provide insights into darkmatter or dark energy.
They basically use the sun'sgravitational field as a lens to
figure out.
Like it, just it, that is wild.
That is playing the shit.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
We showed it can you imagine being that smart?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't want thatresponsibility.
I do want to leave you with acouple more fun quotes from
people who have worked at cernthat make me just feel a little
bit nervous about the wholething.
We're gonna start simple, we'regonna get so.
We're probing the fabric of theuniverse itself.
These are all direct quotes.
By the way, we are on the vergeof discovering new dimensions.
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The lhc will will open a doorto new worlds.
Our work could changeeverything we know about reality
, and possibly the worst one.
We really just don't knowwhat's gonna happen next I mean
you, you could take that.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Anyway, you're taking it like doomsday, but I get, I
get it, but like they don't knowit doesn't have to be doomsday
or not.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
We don't know what happens next.
That's my whole thing.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Whether this is doomsday or not, you are still
playing with things that youdon't understand you know what
this whole entire time I've beenthinking of which I don't, this
is just came to my brain.
Okay, you know, in the movietriple x I've actually never
seen it, oh, it's a good oneWell, there's like a Russian
gang or something and they haveall these scientists and they
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have this big machine thing likeroom, and then they just put a
bunch of people in there, theyput a bunch of the scientists in
there, and then they're likeyou got to watch it, they
literally kill them all in thismachine and then they just sit
there and they all laugh asthey're dying in the machine.
And it just was making me thinkof this this whole time.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, no, I, I can definitely see that it's really
fucked up, but it's such a goodmovie.
Um, I have to watch that.
I'll add it to the list.
I know we're getting long.
I'm gonna just hit us with onefleshed out conspiracy theorist
from.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Reddit.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Okay, so this comes from r slash and I don't know
why low stakes conspiracies.
This is from Falco Lombardi andit's titled.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Remember it's a low stake Right.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
The world ended shortly after the LHC was
switched on and we are currentlybeing devoured by the resulting
black hole.
He goes on to state that LHCstarted operations September
10th 2008,.
Despite alarmism from variousmedia outlets and outspoken
persons who claimed that anearth devouring black hole could
be formed, the sciencecommunity were confident that
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any black hole forming would bemicroscopic and only last a
nanosecond.
Nine days later, on September19ember, 19th 2008, the
unthinkable happened.
Now he doesn't give any sourcesfor this, but okay, it was
thought impossible, but during aroutine collision, a massive
black hole opened upunexpectedly and quickly
engulfed the earth.
To avoid utter panic that wouldno doubt ensue, authorities
(46:22):
covered up the incident, blamingit on a so-called magnetic
quench, which is a thing thatdid actually happen.
I looked at that.
Okay, I don't know exactly whatit means, but their effects
felt around the world literallynine days after he goes on state
due to the warping of thespace-time and bizarre mechanics
of a black hole.
It seems obvious, though over14 years have passed, that
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everything seems fine.
However, the scientists at CERNcontinue to do their work
because they believe outside ofthe black hole, it is still
September 19th 2008, and only afew seconds have actually
elapsed will last before it'sripped apart, but it is thought
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that global warming is actuallythe effects of spaghettification
, which is string theory stuff.
With the upper atmosphere beingcloser to the center of the
black hole, the government iskeen to avoid mass hysteria and
chaos before the inevitable, sostringing everyone along with an
alternative narrative that,while seeming bleak itself, is
akin to a slowly boiling orslowly boiling a frog, without
(47:30):
it noticing that something worseis at play.
Several billionaires have beguna new space race, but this is
not so much about the space raceto escape the planet from
global warming, but rather afutile effort to avoid the fate
of the rest of humanity, becauseif outside the black hole only
a few seconds have passed, timeis moving slow enough for us
(47:51):
that they might have a chance tosurvive themselves, which ties
in, like every fuckingconspiracy theory, and why
they're still doing shit to undowhat they did when they first
turned it on.
But do you care?
I you're way more blasé aboutit than I am, because I get like
way more anxious about all thisshit.
But at the end of the day, thepeople are.
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They're doing it already.
They're going to continue to doit?
To what control do I have?
We might as well ride the wave,but like it just seems like
reckless abandon.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, it very much seems reckless.
I will not say that it's not,but there are so many other
things in our world right nowthat are very fucking reckless.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
So if a black hole were to come and get me, I think
I might be okay, but thenthere's others who would suggest
that all the craziness that'shappening is due to what they
did in the first place.
So it's like I don't know aboutthat.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Very Ouroboros of like eating itself.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I think this is where the aliens just need to come
get me.
I've been telling them for along time I'm ready, beat me up,
baby, let's go, it's we're toowilling.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Do we have pick me energy?
I think so fuck, I really do.
They don't ever pick somebodythat wants them.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I don't feel, you know andrea perrin, come on,
they love each other yeah, butthey should have already taken
her oh they should.
We need to work on that eitherstory or a guest in the future,
because that would justliterally make my entire life oh
my god, what did she post theother?
Speaker 1 (49:17):
wait, she just posted a video the other day on her
facebook and it was so wholesomeand now I can't remember what
it was, but I was like I watchit immediately when we're done
here, Dang was it a?
It was something.
I don't even remember what itwas, but I was just like, oh, I
gotta go.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Alright, I already have my two emojis for this
episode on deck, because that'sall I've got for you.
We've gone long, two weeks in arow.
Are you ready?
What are they?
I want a circle and anexplosion emoji.
Okay, I think it's fitting.
Yeah, do it up.
That's the story of CERN thedarkness that they show us.
Enough of, that creates theconspiracies.
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And, yeah, a little lesson onsubatomic physics.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Call to action is what are your thoughts around
this?
Are you blasé, as Zach wouldsay, like me, or are you
freaking out, going down therabbit hole?
How are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (50:08):
and if you don't want to answer either of those
questions, tell us about yourfavorite mandela effect that
you've oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
No, they're not your favorite.
They're terrible.
They're so annoying.
But what's your favorite?
Speaker 2 (50:19):
what?
What's the one that catches youthe most?
The one that you are adamantwas different.
Yeah, that really bugs.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, really, yes.
Yeah, for me it's the cornuccatches you the most.
The one that you are adamantwas different.
Yeah, that really bugs you,really gets you.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
For me it's the cornucopia, because I straight
up remember it.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
That one and the Bernstein Bears pissed me off.
Those two really, really makeme mad.
And there was a TikToker thatfound an old T-shirt at a thrift
store.
Yeah, the fucking cornucopia.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
So everyone can even when the CEO like oh, the my
third one, febreze.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, it wasn't, isn't cheese, it's one of them,
because probably it is.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Is it cheese it or cheese it?
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah, or it was yeah, something Dang.
What's another one that just?
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Jif and Jiffy, yeah Butter fucking dumb.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
You know it's really dumb about it, though about most
of them pretty much all of themis that they're so minuscule of
things Like they don't impactyou, like they're not.
You know what I mean.
They don't affect you, they'renot very impactful in life, but
they're just not right.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
The consequence of that shows why so many other
things don't feel right Like itseems so minuscule.
But that's like the whole thing.
If you go back in time andchange anything.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Yeah, in the future we're not going to realize that
it shifted right, but it's likethere's yeah, oh my god, okay, I
will go into this all night.
We gotta go.
Zach will never sleep no, I'm.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I'm already going immediately back to google,
jesus christ, don't go back togoogle.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Y'all just go to bed or whatever else you're supposed
to be doing.
Um do all the things we justasked.
Um try not to spiral like zachis going to, but the most
important thing you can do forus is to creep it really a
little oddballs and don't getsucked into a black hole.
Goodbye or do bye guitar soloAt the Irish Shop and open the
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door At the Irish Shop.
The door's always open At theIrish Shop.
I want to dance with the Malt Men At the IA shop,
baked in the moonlight At the IAshop.
Creep through the graveyard Tothe IA shop.
The door's always open At theIA shop.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Welcome back to the Oddity Shop Podcast, the podcast
where we Tell creepy, odd,weird, strange and bizarre
stories from around the world.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I'm your curator, cara, and this is your curator
zachary.
Hi, that's me, if you're newhere, if you're not new here,
then you know who we are idiotssorry straight idiots uh, how
are you?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I am surviving and recovering from a flesh wound,
another one, another one, butthis one didn't make me pass out
because, instead of the wound,being like Well, okay, here's
the thing I figured out, becausethis one didn't even freak me
out, even though it bled a lotagain.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
I was kind of surprised when you texted me and
you didn't really.
That's why I didn't sayanything.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
I put something together yesterday, okay.
So this one I sliced off theskin like a thick layer of skin
on the very tip of my finger.
Yeah, it's nasty.
The slice went across rightLike it shaved it.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
yeah, it wasn't like a stab or a slash, it's the
slashing motion.
I think that gets to me.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
That gets you.
Yeah, because when you told methat you cut your finger, I was
like I'm'm not gonna ask howyou're doing about it and you
didn't say anything.
And then I was like okay.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
And then you were like I'm just gonna cover it
with band-aids I was in full onso I did like a two-hour deep
clean of the bathroom, like thebleach and everything like it's
also like cleaning product.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
How did you cut it again?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I have, um, I use a safety razor to shave, yeah, so,
like the like the old fashionedrazors, and it's on a stand
that it slides into.
While I was like dusting stuffon that shelf, I knocked it.
It fell off and I reached outto catch it.
Yep, luckily it was just thetip of my finger.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm surprised that by trying to catch it, well, I
guess, yeah, well, because sowhen you use it at an angle.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
I caught it straight on very quickly.
It could have been a lot worse.
At least it wasn't like themiddle of my hand.
But yeah, so I do clean thebathroom.
I also I don't know if you cansee the new thing on my altar I
don't think I've told you aboutthis little floral arrangement
that I bought.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I don't believe you have.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
So it's a little rose and it's all pretty with some
flowers.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
I bought this, though , at a Grand Rapids Pride
Festival.
Is it a floral arrangement withpretty flowers?
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yes, in a popper's bottle.
Oh God, that's funny.
Which I thought was hilariousthis guy had all sorts of these
in different popper bottles $20.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
That's kind of a lot All sorts of these.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
How much was that In different popper bottles?
20 bucks, that's kind of a lot.
Also, they made a donation of30% of it to the Trevor Project.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Oh, okay, never mind, it should have been more.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, no, it was good cause it was a cute little
local vendor and I just thoughtit was hilarious because you
don't see that kind of shiteverywhere.
No, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
All it everywhere.
No, that's funny, so all right,cute.
Um, I have nothing really newexcept for yesterday it was
pouring rain out.
Yes, it was, and I cannot gosit like my deck's not covered,
but my porch is like an enclosed.
What do you call it like anenclosed porch?
Speaker 2 (03:35):
I don't know it has like a built in porch over it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah so I can sit out on my porch and I don't get wet
.
So last night until almost 10o'clock I was just out on the
porch with my laptop't get wet.
So last night until almost 10o'clock I was just out on the
porch with my laptop and all mystuff, just doing all of our
socials and just doing stuff,and it was so nice and peaceful.
I probably looked crazy though,but it was nice and peaceful.
And then I met a little frog.
(03:59):
He just jumped right out ofnowhere and then I was talking
to the frog.
I forgot to send you a picture.
I send it to you.
He's cute little hands.
I know, oh god, I know, can youget one?
I used to have frogs well, youdon't have them now and I need
them now.
So then, my bird, you know mylittle bird, my fern bird, susie
q.
She just kept popping up andtweeting at me.
It was just like so nice, itwas very snow white yours.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
you're doing better than me.
We had a cardinal trapped inour porch this week, oh yeah,
and that little baby was nothappy.
So the thing was it came in thedoor on the side, but it could
see its nest out the frontwindow.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
And it kept dashing into the.
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
How did you end up getting it?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
out.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Julia ended up kind of coaxing it with a towel.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So, but we do Now.
I know it's chirp, though, so Ican hear it from my bedroom
window I mean, at least it gotout and it's okay, true very
true, I know.
Would you name her?
I don't think we did, oh I'm sosurprised yeah, no, usually
julia does name some of the thelocal critters.
She probably did.
I'll ask her fair, fair enough.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
All right, let's get going.
Boo boo, all right, you readyto open the shop?
Up then with a question.
You're opening the shop.
Are you ready?
All right, you ready to openthe shop?
Up then with a question, you'reopening the shop up.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Are you ready for your question, so I can open the
shop.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Did you not see my face?
I was like wait, I already went.
It's not my episode, we're juststarting with a question.
What's my question?
Are you?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
ready.
What's my question?
What causes Mandela effects?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Oh, oh, well, well, well, how do I articulate this?
It's basically just we'regetting fucked up, whether it's
like the government fucking usup, aliens fucking us up, but
like we.
The timelines are not right.
The years are shorter, themonths are shorter, the weeks
are shorter.
Something's fucked up and it'serasing patches of time okay, or
(05:40):
it's moving patches of timesomewhere else you don't think
it's just faulty memory.
No fucking way, don't even getme started.
You're pissing me off already.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Well, good, we're already on the same side of this
one.
This is not an episode, though,entirely about Mandela effects.
I promise you that, thankfully,deep underground, beneath the
peaceful countryside ofSwitzerland and France, there's
a machine larger than any knownmachine in our human lifetime,
and it is smashing atoms,together with the force of
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cosmic creation, on an officialquest to unlock the secrets of
the universe.
But some believe it's doingsomething might be, or maybe,
darker like opening portals,summoning ancient forces or even
bending reality itself.
And tonight we're headingstraight, first, straight, first
, straight forward.
We're running right into, justlike the atoms inside the
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machine, cern's Large HadronCollider.
Have you heard of this machine?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
I don't think so.
No, well, maybe just not bythat name.
I don't know.
Do they just call it Surge?
Maybe just not by that name, Idon't know, sir, do they just
call it surge?
Cern C-E-R-N.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Yep, I don't know.
So they have this giant machineunder Switzerland that is
smashing atoms together likebeyond the speed of light to
discover.
Oh, ok, I'm just gonna stoptalking because you're going to
learn as we go.
I don't know why I'm gettingahead of myself.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh, I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
CERN stands for the council.
No, this is French ConcealEuropean pour la recherche
nucléaire.
Murdered that, absolutely.
I can't do French, but inEnglish it's the European union
for nuclear research and it'slocated in geneva.
So when we're talking nuclearresearch, we're not talking bomb
, we're talking like be belowatoms, right the nuclear
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physicist, like particles.
okay, according to wikipedia, itis an intergovernmental I'm
here, okay, carrie anintergovernmental organization
that operates the largestparticle physics laboratory in
the world.
Established in 1954, it'scomprised of 24 member states
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from europe and in 2013, theyadmitted israel as well uh, the
only non-european which probablya touchy subject right now.
Um, but cern's main function isto provide the particle
accelerator machine, which isthe other name for the large
hadron collider, which you mayhave heard of, okay, yeah, or
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other infrastructure needed forhigh energy physics.
Consequently, they've done likea ton of experiments at cern
and other, their internationallike laboratories, but at their
headquarters on site is wherethe large hadron collider is at
CERN and other, theirinternational laboratories, but
at their headquarters on site iswhere the Large Hadron Collider
is.
We're going to call it the LHCfor the rest of this, because I
can only say that so many timesLHC.
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And that's the particleaccelerator.
It's the world's largest and ithosts a large computing
facility, the machine itself andit's primarily used to store,
carry out and analyze all sortsof experiments and simulate
cosmic events.
Okay, to put that like reallyyeah, I see your eyes.
(08:55):
To put it really easy tounderstand it's a giant research
center focused on physics hassome really big findings that
have reshaped how we look atnuclear physics and how we
understand the world and how wegot here and things at a
subatomic level.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
So I'm sorry, did you say when this started?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yes, 1954 CERN.
Ok, CERN is the organizationthat has the LHC.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Yeah, so thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Here's some of this, like their key findings.
So the Higgs boson that wasdiscovered using the LHC in 2012
.
It is the particle that givesother elementary particles mass.
They kind of called it the Godparticle.
It was something that was onlytheorized for a long time and
was a huge finding when theyproved it Interesting Okay, in
(09:41):
83, they also discovered the Wand B bosons.
It Interesting, okay.
In 83, they also discovered theW and B basons.
These particles mediate weaknuclear force and that, like
physics beyond me, they were abig discovery.
In 1973, they were able toprove weak neutral currents,
which showed a close similaritybetween weak and electromagnetic
interactions and a majorunderstep in just understanding,
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like fundamental forces of theuniverse.
1995 they discoveredanti-hydrogen um, which is a
type of antimatter.
They basically have created ourstandard model of particle
physics and then alternativelyalso cern.
In 1989 um under the directionof tim Berners-Lee, invented the
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World Wide Web.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Wow, yeah, I'm just like trying to comprehend
everything you just told me.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
These are the people who are doing this science to
figure out how things workbeyond the naked eye.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
I've heard of CERN when you break it down, because
I think people just call it cernbecause it's definitely easier,
but um, I don't, yeah, okayokay, the lhc, right?
Speaker 2 (10:50):
that's basically the most famous machine at cern
that's doing all the experiments.
Okay, so it's the particleaccelerator.
It was built by cern between1998 and 2008.
Over,000 scientists work on it,hundreds of universities are
involved, over 100 countries.
It's in a tunnel that is 17miles in circumference and as
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deep as 175 meters, or almost600 feet, beneath the French and
Swiss border, near Geneva.
Think about that 17 milescircumference.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
I was going to ask you how big it is.
That's not what I was thinking.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
This thing is absolutely massive.
It's the biggest machine builtby man Dang so and what they do
is they use massive magnets tojust smash atoms into each other
.
Sounds super safe, right.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
But also it just sounds crazy, like to me, like
you're just smashing things intoeach other.
What is that doing?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
So here we just smashing things into each other.
What is that doing so?
But clearly it's doing a lot.
The collider has four crossingpoints where accelerated
particles collide, ninedetectors in each designed to
detect different phenomena andtheir position specifically
around the crossing point.
So what they do is they takebeam proton beams, but it can
also accelerate beams of heavyions like lead and protons, and
like smashes them together tounderstand what happens when the
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atoms break apart and what thesubatomic features do when they
collide.
Okay, so they basically havephysicists who are giving
predictions and testing theorieson particle physics and they're
like this kind of like.
The subatomic physics to me isjust like playing around as god,
like I feel like there'scertain fundamental building
(12:31):
bricks that like we can theorizeabout, but it's a whole
different thing to play withthese things yeah, or like
should we be playing with thesethings?
which is what we're going totalk about a bit, but so it's
generally accepted purchaseright.
It's furthering scientificunderstanding, answering deep
questions about matter, energy,time in the universe.
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There's the most easy way I cansay it.
But with many things in scienceand nature, when things are
harder for the normal person tounderstand and we're playing
with the building blocks ofexistence itself, there's
definitely a mysteriousconspiracy, shadowy reputation
to this place.
Yikes like.
(13:12):
I mean.
This is a perfect place toreally breed fear and how many
people have died there?
um, do you go over that?
None that I know of.
However, there is actually andI don't think I have this in
here, but this is just a funfact I know there is a guy who
stuck his head into the machinewhen it got turned on and he got
hit with a beam through thehead.
Massive amounts of radiationshould have killed him and he
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actually survives.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
Why did he stick his head in there?
Speaker 2 (13:39):
He didn't think the machine was on.
He was supposed to be workingon it.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
I think they turned it on when he was in there or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
But yeah, he's one of the they.
There's no explanation for howhe should have survived.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Wow, okay, that's, that's fucked up okay, not only
is this a place that perfectlybreeds these things just by what
they're doing, their ownbranding and art choice and um
names of experiments makes themlike it takes it from being
unintentionally creepy to likeactually straight up strange.
So I want to talk to you aboutthe conspiracies, but let's talk
(14:16):
about why these conspiracieseven exist first.
Okay, okay, let's start with,uh, the god Shiva.
Okay, mm-hmm.
So this is what usually givepeople a strange feeling about
CERN being up to some secretiveor ritualistic stuff, because
the god Shiva is basically theirmascot.
Oh, so on June 18th 2004, theyunveiled their new statue at its
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headquarters, a two-meter tallstatue of the Indian god.
I like needle better.
Gift from the Indian governmentyou would carry If you know.
You know.
So this statue, though.
It depicts the deity in itsNataraja form, or the cosmic
dance, which is supposed tosymbolize what they're doing
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with the particles colliding andtransforming.
In Hinduism, it's important tonote that Shiva, one of the most
important deities, is known asthe destroyer and the creator of
the universe.
Little bit, little bit on thenose.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
But whatever.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Oh no, go on.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
I'm just like thinking Just continue.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Okay, you just keep thinking.
So I I mean, I think it's alittle bit weird.
I I get, and I think whatyou're gonna start to go at is
they are doing work on physicsand the building blocks, the
universe, so it makes sense theyhave the creator and the
destroyer.
But like kind of they're alsodoing things to literally
replicate.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Replicate rep here's what's happening the timelines
are getting fucked up and ourbrains are not working because
we're talking about thisreplicate you hinted about it
last week's episode and my braingot all discombobulated.
And now I can't talk and nowyou can't talk, you're fucking
with us so replicate and createliteral black holes, dude so the
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statue could be in reverence tothese people trying to play god
and mess with things that theyshouldn't do.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
I mean it just oh, you had a well no, I just, I
just don't, I just don't, Idon't know so, according to
their website, the Shiva statuewas a gift from India to
celebrate its association withCERN, which started in the 1960s
and remains strong today.
So the Lord Shiva practiced theNataraja dance, which also
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symbolizes not only creation anddestruction, but Shakti, or
life force.
So the deity was chosen by theIndian government because of a
metaphor that was drawn betweenthe cosmic dance of the Nataraja
and the modern study of thecosmic dance of subatomic
particles.
That's how they explain it.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I'm surprised, though , that they let them use her as
their representation.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
They gifted it.
Speaker 1 (16:58):
I know, I don't know why I'm surprised about that.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
So they're not part of CERN, but they've worked very
closely with.
I think it was a symbol ofrespect.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
OK.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
But others are like hey, you know, this is like
proof that they're doing darkuniverse manipulating tactics.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Well, right, but also , like you know, like, when you
think of like other cultures andlike their gods and goddesses,
they're so sacred like you cancan't even talk, like they don't
even let people outside liketalk about them, like they're
just so sacred and so likeimportant that it's just like I
don't know.
It's weird to me that theywould.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Hinduism might be a little bit different, though.
I'm sure I feel like they'revery they want to share about it
.
They want to share their.
Yeah, I mean, there's multipledeities and like it's a to have
a symbol of it is kind of likean honor, okay.
So that's like one reason whywe have conspiracies.
The other is just researchinginto the great unknown.
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Right.
So they push physics andscience.
They've been creating andobserving things like
anti-matter dark matter, darkenergy, many black holes, which
I think is like a little bitalarming as a person who doesn't
fully understand it.
But I would rather usunderstand it than trying to
create something we don't trulyunderstand.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
Do you, or maybe you get into this what was like
their first?
What was the reason that theyfirst built this or came
together?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Was there like Just learn about the subatomic
particles.
That was just it Okay, okay so alot of it was only theory.
Physicists were only able totheorize.
You know, beyond proton,neutron, electron, what are the
parts that make up those atoms,right, and why do they act the
way they do?
Because we have things likehave you ever heard of the
double slit experiment, whereatoms act differently?
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It's proven that they actdifferently when they're
observed rather than whenthey're not.
This is the stuff it's tryingto answer.
Okay, back to the great unknownstuff, though they're not
helping with the way they namethese experiments, so let's go
through some.
Yeah, see Alice, a large ioncollider experiment, but some
connect it to Alice inWonderland, interpreting it for
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the metaphor of going down therabbit hole right, alternate
realities we have Atlas, namedafter the Greek titan who held
up the sky.
Some see this as symbolic ofhumans challenging divine
authority or holding up theheaven.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
I could see that Okay .
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Then we have Methuselah massive timing
hodoscope for ultra-stableneutral.
I could see that Okay.
Then we have Methuselah Massivetiming hodoscope for
ultra-stable neutral particles,but the name obviously
represents Methuselah, abiblical figure said to have
lived for 969 years and promptstheories about time and
mortality or manipulating thefabric of existence.
We have experiment totem, total, elastic, ancestral
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connotations right, leading tospeculation about like occult or
ancient practices, right.
My favorite one I feel likethis is the most Star Trek-y one
.
We have Phaser.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Phaser.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
For word.
It's the A in word.
I don't know, is the A inPhaser Search experiment the R
in experiment?
Like they're stretching forthis one.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
I was just going to say this one.
The rest all kind of lined up,but what?
Speaker 2 (20:18):
They think this is like hidden military tech or
like exotic intense energymanipulation.
The third and final ingredientof our conspiracies is the human
sacrifice.
Shut the fuck up.
Oh yeah, dude.
So only one.
Ok, maybe that is all on filmand it's it's very likely.
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I'm going to rip the bandaidoff.
It's very likely fake, but it'sstill fucking weird.
Okay, so in 2016, there's avideo which was leaked and
circulated online, which showsseveral individuals in black
coats gathering in the mainsquare of their headquarters to
reenact, or enact, an occultceremony the ceremony sacrifice.
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This sounds familiar so it'sshot from the point of view of a
secret viewer watching fromlike a window above the
courtyard.
Um, and now the courtyard we'retalking about is the
headquarters where shiva is,okay, so he's standing there and
you see torches around thestatue of shiva and like a group
of 10 people dressed in robesleading a woman dressed in white
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and wearing a flower crown tokneel in front of the statue
yeah, this sounds vaguelyfamiliar, okay hold on, let me
get through this and then thengive me your thoughts.
She proceeds to lay down and allthose in the robes kneel around
her, except for the onestanding at the front.
He pulls out a large knife andappears to stab her.
At this point, the personfilming it freaks off, takes out
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running, or freaks out, takesoff running, and you don't see
anything more.
Ok, give me your thoughts.
So far.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
She thought it was a reenactment.
Speaker 2 (21:59):
God only knows, because right from when the
knife goes down is when you seenothing more.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
OK, so this video.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
If it was a reenactment, why would he have
freaked out and ran?
We'll get to that in a second.
The video obviously takes offlike this is 2016 internet.
It gains popularity and aspokesperson from CERN actually
makes a comment about it.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I gotta watch this.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
They stated that the video was a prank oh, I just
linked in the notes and thatnobody was actually harmed.
Why would they prank.
In its FAQ online that the videowas fiction and the actions
were outside CERN's professionalguidelines and without any
official permission.
They also state that they donot tolerate this kind of spoof
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and that it can give rise tomisunderstandings about the
scientific nature of our work.
But here's the deal.
It was filmed in the maincourtyard in front of the actual
statue, so to be able to getinside there you have to have an
access badge.
So whoever created this,whether it was real or fake,
they're involved with CERN.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
They have intimate access to the headquarters so
the person looking above, likewherever that view is, you don't
have to be in, you don't haveto have badge access.
So yes, you do.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Is that what we're saying?
Oh, everybody would have had to, so even the person filming let
me watch this real quick.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Oh it's.
I don't know if this would befake.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
It's a weird video for sure, and the same
spokesperson who made that quoteearlier said that they were
never going to ID the personresponsible.
They would only say it was aninternal matter and they were
investigating it, but they don'tprovide more details.
But if you had to have a badgeto get in there, they know, did
it yeah, and I'm like like fromthe video you, oh yeah, he like
freaks out it's really short.
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I urge you guys actually all topause this.
If you're just watch it, soyou're not driving watch yeah,
just so you can know what we'retalking about.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It is very weird because it doesn't.
I don't know.
I mean, you could stage pranksvery well, but to me that
doesn't look like.
I don't understand why thatwould number one be a prank.
I don't know why you'd bereenacting a sacrifice.
That's fucking weird.
I mean I just don't know whythey would be doing that.
And the the shaky video, likethe whole, the person recording
is like shaking oh yeah, no, heseems they are.
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They seem generally freaked outI listened to it without volume,
so I don't know.
But like he, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
It's okay, weird.
So this is where I want to stop, before we get into the
conspiracies.
There's two camps, right, it'sjust a highly technical place
where super smart people arestudying physics at a level we
don't understand.
Therefore, we get scared and wemake theories, or while doing
real silent or science, they'realso giving enough evidence that
there's something creepy anddarker going on.
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Where are you at right now?
Speaker 1 (24:44):
why do you have to ask?
Speaker 2 (24:45):
well, kara is obviously going the conspiracy
route.
She always does everyone else.
I want you to figure out whereyou are right now.
Maybe leave us a comment whereyou're thinking at this point.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Okay, here's, if you're watching on youtube,
anytime we as humans get anysort of power, whether that's a
political power, acting,whatever, scientific what, being
a cop, scientific what, any,any type of power, it can really
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shape our stupid little brainsall you have to do is look at
the science or the Stanfordprison experiments to see all
the proof you need of that.
So I just feel like, even ifthis started as like a good
thing or not necessarily, but Iguess it could still be a good
thing, I don't know If itstarted as, just like scientists
(25:37):
being scientists, you'restarting to get all that power.
You know that God-like feeling,like holy shit, this is working
.
And like the strength of likeah, you, you can starting to get
all that power.
You know that godlike feeling,like holy shit, this is working.
And like the strength of like,you can tend to turn more dark
or whatever, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
if I'm articulating this the way, To put it really
easy, you can see the path thatsomebody would go down when
they're playing with thebuilding blocks of life, that
they can get a little bit ofcarried away, whether they have
positive or negative intentions.
It might come from curiosity,but holy shit, this stuff, we
don't understand it.
Maybe we should stop shovingthese things into each other to
try to understand.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
I mean as like a dumb trying to be relatable thing.
Think about even just like youand I and we're not doing
anything malicious or harmful.
But what I mean is, before wereally did like investigations,
we were kind of nervous, right.
We're like, oh my God, like wedon't know if we really want to
be involved in investigations.
Like we love it from afar, welove watching and talking about
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it and like doing research, butdo we want to be the people that
do investigations?
And now we're getting paid todo investigations and we are not
even like, like we don't evensecond guess it, we don't even
have a fear, we're just likecool, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
But that mentality something you should have
reverence for becomes normalized.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
You start acting different yes, and that
mentality is going to get us introuble one day.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I promise you that oh yeah, that are our mouths.
Come on, let's be for real okay,so so let's get into the top
three conspiracies surroundingcern in the lhc there's only
three or top three, top okayyeah, and honestly they're all
almost one in the same and theyall have hundreds of little
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parts, okay, so I tried to justgroup them the best I could.
So the first is that they'retrying to open a portal and
summon entities through um.
This theory states that cern,through actions at the subatomic
level, is trying to open aportal to either another
dimension, a pair, to paralleluniverse or another spiritual
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realm.
So why we think this?
The physicists there haveopenly discussed higher
dimensions, multiple dimensions,string theory and possible
gravitational leaks from thesedimensions into our realm I, I
guess.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
But for those things, why wouldn't you start like
researching that and trying tolike?
Speaker 2 (28:00):
because you don't fucking know what you're letting
in.
Look at again I understand.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Let's put this into our perspective.
Speaker 2 (28:06):
When you and I first started in the first five
episodes, we talked about shitwe didn't understand.
We talked about demonic shitand things started getting crazy
in our houses.
We played with something wethought we understood and had
bad consequences.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Okay, but what I'm saying is, if you're a scientist
and you're trying to researchthese types of things and figure
them out, why wouldn't you?
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Because the fate of the world, if you-.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
But they're probably not thinking that way, I know.
That's my but okay, I'm nottrying to be argumentative or to
debate you.
No, no, this is good If if youwere them, why wouldn't you do
these things so?
Speaker 2 (28:44):
which also gives more credence to the fact that these
conspiracies are probably right, because I don't think yes, I
was to say I don't know if thatthere's a net in here.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
I don't know if that would be a conspiracy.
That's probably fact because Iguess in their heads like why
wouldn't you do that?
Why wouldn't we try to either?
They haven't admitted it andthat's why it's conspiracy.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Well, yeah, more evidence.
On this one, the higgs boson.
We talked about this earlier.
They sometimes call it the godparticle, and this has the
potential.
This particle has the potentialto create the conditions for,
and be able to observe, awormhole, or properties of
wormholes, which, again, we'remessing with things bigger now,
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that freaks me out.
Yeah, so the fears are that theexperience would summon dark
matter creatures or otherworldly entities right by
opening up a portal.
I don't want to worms.
No Well, wormholes are like.
I know Inner, I know Spacetravel, that's just.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
I'm just kidding Did, I'm just kidding Did you really
think?
I thought it was worms.
Speaker 2 (29:41):
No, this stuff just stresses me out.
Okay, so the reasons theoristscome up with this right is that
they're trying to make contactwith beings in other worlds or
dimensions to gain some sort ofknowledge, access higher states
of consciousness or unlockinterdimensional travel.
Which, come on, every good cultconspiracy has like fourth
dimension shit.
They're playing God right.
Fourth dimension shit, they'replaying god right.
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They think they're trying torecreate things like the big
bang or like the conditions forit to open these portals.
Some also think that theirultimate goal is to collapse our
current world to make way forthe new one.
Some like real illuminati levelshit here I mean we could use a
new world right and they're kindof using like a controlled
chaos to bring about the newworld, enabling the new order.
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New world order.
Okay, and I think the darkestof these theories really goes
into the the suggestion thatcern is intentionally trying to
bring something through a deity,an ancient evil, the watcher
type entity, beliefs that tie tobiblical and occult narratives
about end times, fallen angelsor the antichrist.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Okay you know what, bring it on.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I mean oh this place is weird.
This place always just it'sgiving me the heebie-jeebies.
We'll talk about some otherstories that end.
But let's go to like majorconspiracy number two, and you
see what I mean about how, likeit's a whole bunch of different
conspiracies.
I'm just trying to like pushthem into a couple categories, I
guess.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Well, because I mean they all kind of like coincide
in a way.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yes, ish so this one is in regards to lhc's ability
to create mini black holes, andthat's kind of one of the most
persistent and, they say, quoteunquote misunderstood concept
feeling conspiracies.
The hypothesis here, if webreak it down, is that if extra
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dimensions exist, as issuggested by string theory, then
the energy threshold for ablack hole or the creation of a
black hole would be lower thanexpected in modern day physics
standards.
So the LHC collides protons atnearly the lightest speed,
recreating the conditions of theearly universe, and there's in
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this theory potential that whatthey're doing could create a
black hole literally in themiddle of Earth.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
If there was a black hole in the middle of the earth,
would you?
Speaker 2 (32:03):
go in it.
If they do this and they createa black hole, nobody has a
choice.
We're all in it and we're allgonna figure out exactly what
happens.
But if you had a choice?
Speaker 1 (32:12):
you don't have a choice.
No, but if just say, just sayjust, the black hole just opened
up in the middle of the earthand it was just in there.
Everything around it is fine,would you go in it or would you
stay here?
Speaker 2 (32:24):
I'm gonna go in that black hole.
How much whiskey have I had?
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I'm getting fucked.
You can have as much as youwant.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I'm jumping in that I mean when I have to make the
decision because, like, let's behonest, after a couple of
fashions, I'm going in, yeah,but would you rather be here?
You know, it's kind of one ofthose things of like the evil,
you know what, if it's like thisis, you know, human eating
worms on the other side, but itis worms, so worms from beetle
juice.
No, seriously, though, but itlike they're saying that
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basically they have created theconditions of mini black holes,
but like, that to me is ismessing with power like what's a
mini black hole, exactly, Imean like, yeah, um, so there
was actually a lawsuit in 2008trying to stop cern and the lhc
from running, citing this as themain fear.
Now, right, we don't know that.
Every sci-fi movie has shownsomething different.
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You either get compressed right, you get obliterated, you go
into nothingness when you go toblack hole.
But some people do claim thatthey did create a black hole and
that we're living in asimulation or a parallel
timeline now, after we've beensucked, in which is why the
world hasn't felt quite rightand timelines don't.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
I can get down on that.
So basically we just didn'teven know, we got sucked in and
it's just like a it's kind oflike the show Lost.
Here's the thing I never watchthat bullshit Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
I'm going to spoil it .
I'm going to spoil it foreverybody, okay.
So if you're going to watch itand you've had two decades,
pause me now skip ahead.
But the whole thing is they'rein a plane that lands on a
remote island after a planecrash.
They're all in purgatory.
They've been dead the wholetime, but nobody realized it.
If this major shift happened,it would be like that, like we
just don't know that we've goneinto a parallel.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I didn't know that.
About that, that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
What a dumb show right, so like it, dude, it
doesn't feel like the sameuniverse, though, like you know
this, you and I talk about this.
This doesn't feel like the same.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
This is, let me let me talk to these scientists,
because this is what I wantCreate another fucking one, put
us on another black hole in adifferent world, because this
one ain't it which?
Speaker 2 (34:29):
leads perfectly into theory number three that this
has happened multiple times.
And conspiracy number threesuggests that CERN and the LHC
is the reason why humansexperience the Mandela effect.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
I mean, I get that.
That 100% makes sense.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Right.
Speaker 1 (34:47):
But how many times do they think this has happened?
Speaker 2 (34:49):
That we don't know, right, okay, okay.
So for anybody who doesn't knowthe Mandela effect and why it's
called, this is actually really, really important for another
point we're going to make.
So it's a phenomena where largegroups of people remember
events or facts differently thanwhat the historical record
shows.
It's named after Nelson Mandelaand a lot of people recalling
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that he died in prison in the80s, despite the fact that he
was released and became SouthAfrica's president.
Okay, there's a whole bunch ofother ones, right Berenstain,
berenstein, fruit of the Loomlogo.
Hamlet Cornucopia, monopoly man, man with his monocle you're
instantly making me angry sowhat do they have to do with
each other?
so the theory goes is that withall the work they're doing
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finding these god particles,researching dimensions and all
sorts of other string theorycraziness it's caused our
reality to cross and merge withother timelines and other
realities.
This causes the large numbersof people right to remember
things different from the waythey were because of the way the
mergers happened.
So we were in a timeline whereNelson Mandela died in prison.
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We've somehow smashed withanother timeline or dimension.
To quote my favorite Doctor whowibbly, wobbly, timey, wimey.
Shit has now happened andeverything just works slightly
differently.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, I mean, but I'm just wondering how?
Because CERN was established inwhat?
53?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
54.
Speaker 1 (36:14):
So I'm just wondering , by the time they made Black
Hole, it's probably what when dothey think they made a Black
Hole?
Do you know?
60.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
These two things don't have to necessarily, it
doesn't have to necessarily bethe black hole, I know, but I'm
just trying to think.
They've never confirmed nordenied it.
They've said they've createdthe conditions for.
Hold on, though.
I think I might have the answerfor you.
The Ney-Mandela effect wasfirst coined in 2009 by a
paranormal researcher namedFiona Broom.
So Broom had the false memoryof Nelson Mandela dying in
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prison in the 80s, even thoughhe was released in 1990, died in
2013.
So she discovered this beforehe died, which is wild, which is
when a lot of people started topoint it, right.
So this was when 2009,.
She coined the term MandelaEffect.
Wow, okay.
So she discovers that a bunchof other people share the false
memory.
Right, but it wasn't reallydiscovered that people shared
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this false memory until 2009.
So in the same year, we know,she created a website to
document and explore thephenomenon.
Okay, the Large Hadron Colliderturned on for the first time in
2008.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Oh, okay.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
So the very next year is when the Mandela effect
starts to be researched.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
So I'm just wondering how many times this has
happened.
So if we were to go through asa side project, we'd have to
write down all the major.
I don't think we'd be able toknow how many times it happened.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Mandela's.
And when you're talking aboutmultiple realities, it's
happening across, right?
If it's happening in ours, it'salso happening in others and
it's constant.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Well, I want to know how many times I don't care
about y'all Me.
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Okay, I have a couple more fun facts for you that
make it just like it justfurther.
The strangers here wait.
Do you want to talk any moreabout the conspiracies?
Speaker 1 (38:04):
um no, I mean, I just don't know if they're
necessarily conspiracies.
They're only conspiraciesbecause we nobody is talking
about them openly and publiclyand they're being hush about it
I know we can't, I'm just sayinglike, I just don't think that
they're conspiracies, I thinkthat that is they're true.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
I I think the better word than conspiracies is highly
probable accidental sideeffects if it's not the direct
effect of what they'reresearching.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, here's what's crazy to me, and I'm sure
there's, I don't know, ok.
So like, for example, they'redoing this experiment, this
stuff, where are they located?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
again, it's on the France and Swiss Geneva, uh,
geneva, geneva, thank you so,okay, cool, so they're doing the
shit in geneva.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
So, like, theoretically, us here, we
should like, we don't even care,you do your experiments there
because, like, you're all acrossthe world, right, like you no,
listen, just let me finish.
Okay, so you're all across theworld, theoretically, I don't
really give a shit what you'redoing, but because it affects,
like, potentially, the universe,the planet, the world, that's
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where it's like, how are youallowed to do that?
Speaker 2 (39:13):
because 54 countries have come together and agreed to
do it right, but I just don'tunderstand why.
But like and I think that's whythey have the lawsuits to stop
it.
Because it is like the samething of what you said would be
like if China was drilling tothe core of the earth and
putting a bomb down there.
Sure, it's on the other side ofthe world, but it affects it,
right?
It?
Speaker 1 (39:31):
affects everybody, so it's different.
So like if, if you were doingthis and I keep thinking
Princess of Genovia- I know.
Ok, so if you're the princessof Genovia and you're just like
in a bomb, you're like fuck it.
I want to bomb Genovia, cool,fine, bomb Genovia, because it's
probably not going to affect us.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Yeah, it's geographically limited or
limited?
Speaker 1 (39:51):
But I'm just saying OK, but now you're doing things
that affect the universe.
Absolutely fucking everybody.
I just don't be.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
I just don't understand how you should be
allowed to do that, but whatever, that's beyond me.
Let's theorize about it, let'snot.
Okay, fun facts ready.
Yeah, uh, in 2004, cern begantesting the newly upgraded LHC.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
So last year, 2004 uh-huh, they did a bunch of last
year 2024 sorry you said 2004last year.
What fucking timeline are we onnow?
Speaker 2 (40:21):
2024?
Oh god, god only knows.
It's 2005 for me, no 2024.
So last year, do you rememberthe total solar eclipse?
Oh, yeah, yeah, that's whenthey decided to turn it back on.
Oh, I wonder why.
Yeah, so they have a history ofdoing it during odd either
cosmic or weird earthquakes.
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You can line up theseexperiments with odd times
constantly no, are they justsaying it's coincidence, um?
Speaker 1 (40:50):
or they're not saying anything.
Some say it's coincidence or nolike the lac cern.
Speaker 2 (40:55):
Yeah, I don't say anything people say it's
coincidence or that there'smassive amounts of energy from
these events that they'reharnessing or I think it's
energy yeah, so one person, uh,you may have heard this name
before.
His name is alistair crowley.
He made contact, apparently,with a demonic entity called
awas a-i-w-a-s-s, uh, in 1904,in april, uh, april 8th, 19.
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Okay, so they think that thisis who.
Cern might be attempting tocontact the deity through the
portals by tying up with some ofthese cosmic.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
They're trying to get to Alistair Crowley.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
No, they're trying to get to the demonic entity he
was talking about.
That's one of those things thatthey were maybe trying to pull
through.
Yeah, I just wanted to clarify.
Um, and there's people who do alot of tie together about the
cosmic events that are happening.
Right, compared to lhc, it'sbeyond what we can get into in
the hour that we got.
Okay, a top researcher at thelhc says that the titanic
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machinery may possibly create ordiscover previously unimagined
scientific phenomena or unknownunknowns, for instance, an extra
dimension is basically a directquote from a scientist, so we
know right there that they don'teven know what they're they're
playing with.
He goes on to quote out of thisdoor might come something, or
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we might send something throughit, and this is from physicist
sergio bertolucci, who is thedirector for research and
scientific computing.
Um, and he said this whilebriefing reporters, including,
like some really really bignames, at their headquarters in
2009 okay, read that quote to meyeah, out of this door might
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come something or we might sendsomething through it.
This was after he was talkingabout.
The machinery may possiblycreate or discover previously
unimagined scientific phenomenaor unknowns.
Unknowns, for instance, anextra dimension.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Listen, they literally said that I'm going to
shove you right through thatdoor.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Oh my God, Tell me what happens.
December 18th 2016,.
The CERN Axion Solar Telescopecalled CAST took advantage of a
rare astronomical alignment whenthe sun aligned with a
supermassive black hole at thecenter of the Milky Way.
This alignment allowed theresearchers to search for
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hypothetical particles likeaxions and chameleons, which
could provide insights.
In provide insights into darkmatter or dark energy.
They basically use the sun'sgravitational field as a lens to
figure out.
Like it, just it, that is wild.
That is playing the shit.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
We showed it can you imagine being that smart?
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I wouldn't.
I wouldn't want thatresponsibility.
I do want to leave you with acouple more fun quotes from
people who have worked at cernthat make me just feel a little
bit nervous about the wholething.
We're gonna start simple, we'regonna get so.
We're probing the fabric of theuniverse itself.
These are all direct quotes.
By the way, we are on the vergeof discovering new dimensions.
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The lhc will will open a doorto new worlds.
Our work could changeeverything we know about reality
, and possibly the worst one.
We really just don't knowwhat's gonna happen next I mean
you, you could take that.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Anyway, you're taking it like doomsday, but I get, I
get it, but like they don't knowit doesn't have to be doomsday
or not.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
We don't know what happens next.
That's my whole thing.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Whether this is doomsday or not, you are still
playing with things that youdon't understand you know what
this whole entire time I've beenthinking of which I don't, this
is just came to my brain.
Okay, you know, in the movietriple x I've actually never
seen it, oh, it's a good oneWell, there's like a Russian
gang or something and they haveall these scientists and they
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have this big machine thing likeroom, and then they just put a
bunch of people in there, theyput a bunch of the scientists in
there, and then they're likeyou got to watch it, they
literally kill them all in thismachine and then they just sit
there and they all laugh asthey're dying in the machine.
And it just was making me thinkof this this whole time.
Speaker 2 (45:09):
Yeah, no, I, I can definitely see that it's really
fucked up, but it's such a goodmovie.
Um, I have to watch that.
I'll add it to the list.
I know we're getting long.
I'm gonna just hit us with onefleshed out conspiracy theorist
from.
Speaker 1 (45:24):
Reddit.
Speaker 2 (45:25):
Okay, so this comes from r slash and I don't know
why low stakes conspiracies.
This is from Falco Lombardi andit's titled.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
Remember it's a low stake Right.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
The world ended shortly after the LHC was
switched on and we are currentlybeing devoured by the resulting
black hole.
He goes on to state that LHCstarted operations September
10th 2008,.
Despite alarmism from variousmedia outlets and outspoken
persons who claimed that anearth devouring black hole could
be formed, the sciencecommunity were confident that
(45:58):
any black hole forming would bemicroscopic and only last a
nanosecond.
Nine days later, on September19ember, 19th 2008, the
unthinkable happened.
Now he doesn't give any sourcesfor this, but okay, it was
thought impossible, but during aroutine collision, a massive
black hole opened upunexpectedly and quickly
engulfed the earth.
To avoid utter panic that wouldno doubt ensue, authorities
(46:22):
covered up the incident, blamingit on a so-called magnetic
quench, which is a thing thatdid actually happen.
I looked at that.
Okay, I don't know exactly whatit means, but their effects
felt around the world literallynine days after he goes on state
due to the warping of thespace-time and bizarre mechanics
of a black hole.
It seems obvious, though over14 years have passed, that
(46:43):
everything seems fine.
However, the scientists at CERNcontinue to do their work
because they believe outside ofthe black hole, it is still
September 19th 2008, and only afew seconds have actually
elapsed will last before it'sripped apart, but it is thought
(47:07):
that global warming is actuallythe effects of spaghettification
, which is string theory stuff.
With the upper atmosphere beingcloser to the center of the
black hole, the government iskeen to avoid mass hysteria and
chaos before the inevitable, sostringing everyone along with an
alternative narrative that,while seeming bleak itself, is
akin to a slowly boiling orslowly boiling a frog, without
(47:30):
it noticing that something worseis at play.
Several billionaires have beguna new space race, but this is
not so much about the space raceto escape the planet from
global warming, but rather afutile effort to avoid the fate
of the rest of humanity, becauseif outside the black hole only
a few seconds have passed, timeis moving slow enough for us
(47:51):
that they might have a chance tosurvive themselves, which ties
in, like every fuckingconspiracy theory, and why
they're still doing shit to undowhat they did when they first
turned it on.
But do you care?
I you're way more blasé aboutit than I am, because I get like
way more anxious about all thisshit.
But at the end of the day, thepeople are.
(48:11):
They're doing it already.
They're going to continue to doit?
To what control do I have?
We might as well ride the wave,but like it just seems like
reckless abandon.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, it very much seems reckless.
I will not say that it's not,but there are so many other
things in our world right nowthat are very fucking reckless.
Speaker 2 (48:29):
So if a black hole were to come and get me, I think
I might be okay, but thenthere's others who would suggest
that all the craziness that'shappening is due to what they
did in the first place.
So it's like I don't know aboutthat.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
Very Ouroboros of like eating itself.
Speaker 2 (48:48):
I think this is where the aliens just need to come
get me.
I've been telling them for along time I'm ready, beat me up,
baby, let's go, it's we're toowilling.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Do we have pick me energy?
I think so fuck, I really do.
They don't ever pick somebodythat wants them.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I don't feel, you know andrea perrin, come on,
they love each other yeah, butthey should have already taken
her oh they should.
We need to work on that eitherstory or a guest in the future,
because that would justliterally make my entire life oh
my god, what did she post theother?
Speaker 1 (49:17):
wait, she just posted a video the other day on her
facebook and it was so wholesomeand now I can't remember what
it was, but I was like I watchit immediately when we're done
here, Dang was it a?
It was something.
I don't even remember what itwas, but I was just like, oh, I
gotta go.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
Alright, I already have my two emojis for this
episode on deck, because that'sall I've got for you.
We've gone long, two weeks in arow.
Are you ready?
What are they?
I want a circle and anexplosion emoji.
Okay, I think it's fitting.
Yeah, do it up.
That's the story of CERN thedarkness that they show us.
Enough of, that creates theconspiracies.
(49:49):
And, yeah, a little lesson onsubatomic physics.
Speaker 1 (49:54):
Call to action is what are your thoughts around
this?
Are you blasé, as Zach wouldsay, like me, or are you
freaking out, going down therabbit hole?
How are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (50:08):
and if you don't want to answer either of those
questions, tell us about yourfavorite mandela effect that
you've oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (50:14):
No, they're not your favorite.
They're terrible.
They're so annoying.
But what's your favorite?
Speaker 2 (50:19):
what?
What's the one that catches youthe most?
The one that you are adamantwas different.
Yeah, that really bugs.
Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, really, yes.
Yeah, for me it's the cornuccatches you the most.
The one that you are adamantwas different.
Yeah, that really bugs you,really gets you.
Speaker 2 (50:27):
For me it's the cornucopia, because I straight
up remember it.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
That one and the Bernstein Bears pissed me off.
Those two really, really makeme mad.
And there was a TikToker thatfound an old T-shirt at a thrift
store.
Yeah, the fucking cornucopia.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
So everyone can even when the CEO like oh, the my
third one, febreze.
Speaker 1 (50:45):
Yeah, it wasn't, isn't cheese, it's one of them,
because probably it is.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Is it cheese it or cheese it?
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Yeah, or it was yeah, something Dang.
What's another one that just?
Speaker 2 (50:56):
Jif and Jiffy, yeah Butter fucking dumb.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
You know it's really dumb about it, though about most
of them pretty much all of themis that they're so minuscule of
things Like they don't impactyou, like they're not.
You know what I mean.
They don't affect you, they'renot very impactful in life, but
they're just not right.
Speaker 2 (51:16):
The consequence of that shows why so many other
things don't feel right Like itseems so minuscule.
But that's like the whole thing.
If you go back in time andchange anything.
Speaker 1 (51:30):
Yeah, in the future we're not going to realize that
it shifted right, but it's likethere's yeah, oh my god, okay, I
will go into this all night.
We gotta go.
Zach will never sleep no, I'm.
Speaker 2 (51:35):
I'm already going immediately back to google,
jesus christ, don't go back togoogle.
Speaker 1 (51:39):
Y'all just go to bed or whatever else you're supposed
to be doing.
Um do all the things we justasked.
Um try not to spiral like zachis going to, but the most
important thing you can do forus is to creep it really a
little oddballs and don't getsucked into a black hole.
Goodbye or do bye guitar soloAt the Irish Shop and open the
(52:26):
door At the Irish Shop.
The door's always open At theIrish Shop.
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