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September 4, 2025 44 mins

Welcome To The Oddity Shop, Where The Bizarre is Always on Sale.  This week, your Curator Kara is diving deep into the halls of Waverly Hills

The gothic spires of Waverly Hills Sanatorium pierce the Kentucky sky like a warning – some places never truly empty, even long after their residents have gone. Built in 1910 as a tuberculosis hospital, this imposing structure holds the echoes of thousands who suffered and died within its walls. What began as a modest school on a hilltop transformed into one of America's most notorious haunted locations, where pain lingers in the very bricks and mortar.

The stories here are countless and chilling. Room 502, where a nurse allegedly took her own life after becoming pregnant and contracting tuberculosis. The shadow people who peer around corners on the fourth floor. The terrifying entity known as "the creeper" that crawls along walls and ceilings, sending even seasoned ghost hunters fleeing. 

Waverly Hills isn't just about ghosts, it's about understanding how places absorb human suffering. With estimates of 6,000-10,000 deaths during its operation, the sheer concentration of pain and loss has seemingly imprinted itself on this gothic monolith. We're already planning our return for a more immersive overnight investigation, and perhaps something special for our listeners too. Stay tuned for what awaits in the shadows of Waverly Hills – where the door to the past never fully closes.

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
I want to dance with the mothman at the ID shop,
bathed in the moonlight at theID shop.
Creep through the graveyard tothe ID shop.
The door's always open at theID shop.

(00:29):
Welcome back to the Oddity Shop, the podcast where we tell you
creepy, odd, weird, strange,bizarre stories from around the
globe.
I'm sitting here with thewonderfully haunted curator,
kara hey I tried something new.

(00:51):
I love it, hey, and I am thehorribly haunted curator zach, I
don't know uh, horrible, we'llhave to think of something well,
we'll, we'll we'll work on it,good lord.
Uh, I'm gonna just caveat thisright now I am a under sleepy

(01:11):
boy yeah, under slept.
I'm sleepy, so my words aregonna be tough.
You guys have to deal with it,all right, how are you well?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
good thing it's not your episode.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
That is good well, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
um, I went to a cute little new vintage shop in town
and I met Cassidy.
Hey, cassidy, and I bought.
I just bought one of theirshirts.
They have really cute stuff.
I have to take you.
I bought a lighter and it hasFrankenstein on it.
I bought something for the wall, oh and a ring.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I love it.
Also, I love that you justshouted out hey, cassidy,
because I was talking about youto somebody last night and I was
saying how like you just needan extroverted friend, because
we're talking about how likeit's tough in your 30s or like
old age to make friends.
We're not old.
In our advanced, advanced ageit is so hard to make friends
and I was like you just need toget the extroverted friend.

(02:05):
I'm just sitting at a bar withKara and all of a sudden
somebody walks by she goes youhave a nice face, like a
friendly face.
The next thing you know, we'resitting with three strangers for
the next four hours talkingabout dogs.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Hey, shout out Trevor .

Speaker 1 (02:17):
See again.
You make all the friends.
This is why we love you.
I'm perfectly both, though I'mintroverted and extroverted.
When I need to be, I feel likeI am an extroverted introvert
and you're an introvertedextrovert.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yes, probably, but anyway, you like interrupted me.
So then I went to an antiqueshop and it was really cool.
They had a lot of really neatstuff.
I didn't get anything there,but I'm like perusing Right and
the guy's like, oh, there's anupstairs and this is like in a,
it's in Fenton and I need tolook up what the house like, how
old the house is, cause youcouldn't even walk without it
going.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Oh, those are the best kinds of stores though.
Antique stores and bookstoresshould always do that.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Right.
But I was the only one upstairsand I realized because it's an
attic, it's like stairs to anattic and I don't know.
I did record some stuff forPatreon and I was like I can't
breathe up here, Like it is notokay, Like I needed to go and
there was really cute stuff upthere, but I was like it's not.
Something up there was reallyweird and I think it's a

(03:18):
particular painting that I saw.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Oh, I thought it was just like hot and stuffy.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Oh no, oh no no, oh.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Ok, I'm picking up what you're putting down.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
I'm up there whispering.
I was like I got you guys, Igot to get out of here, like I
wanted to keep looking, but I'mlike I have to fucking go, like
I needed to go stat.
And then as soon as I got backdownstairs I was like I can't
know if the guy working is justcreepy.
I didn't think he was creepyuntil after I came from upstairs
, but I'm pretty sure it was thepainting and I think I got it

(03:48):
on the video for Patreon.
But that place was fuckingcreepy.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I mean, though that kind of adds to the vibe of it
sometimes.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yeah, but this was like.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Not good.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, like I didn't feel good at all, like not just
creepy, I was like I skedaddledokay, like scooby-doo and shaggy
skedaddled so quick, so reallyquick.
What did we just do?

Speaker 1 (04:11):
oh my gosh, we just came, and this is why I'm still
so tired, because I forgot againin our advanced age that, um,
when we come back from trips, Ineed another day off before I
just go back into work.
But we, we just came back froma trip to Kentucky for the
Haunters Against Hate event.
Yes, as well as so many otherside quests that we added in, it

(04:32):
was a jam-packed 48 hours.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yes, and Zach took no days after.
I took what four days after?
Because I needed my petite.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Can you give me two?
Good lord, good lord, good lord.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Because when you go to events like that and you're
meeting so many different peopleand you're just like you're
chatting and you're beingextroverted when you're not
normally as extroverted, it's alot.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
It takes a lot out of you, especially like
conventions like that, you know,like paranormal and mediums and
just it's so fun, it's alwaysworth it, but it just drains you
To talk about that eventcompared to some of the others
for a second, and not that I amgoing to dog on any of the other
events that we've ever gone to,but Paul did what he has
created with the Hunters AgainstHate event is the most absolute

(05:19):
inclusive, lgbt but any walk oflife, family friendly event.
Like I have never been in aspace that felt so open and
accepting and just likelighthearted.
There seems like there was alittle bit less of the ego than
you get in some of the otherevents and all that kind of
stuff Like everyone was just sogreat and they had special needs

(05:41):
, goats that you could pet andfeed, so like definitely gets a
shout out oh my god, shout outto my girl, jenny jenny, I jenny
, and lucky and lucky luckyactually.
Yeah, all of them, we're justsuch precious little baby angels
but yeah, no, it was a greattime and we got to check out um,
what is it?
City hill?

(06:01):
No, what's the name of thecemetery?
Cave Hill?
Cave Hill Cemetery yes.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
That was wonderful.
So follow us on TikTok becauseI'll put all the I'm in the
process.
We just did way too much.
I was ambitious and thought Iwould have it all done yesterday
.
No, no, don't even have any ofit done today.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I need you.
I need to finish posting mypictures on Instagram, so we got
to finish that shared album.
By that I mean you need toupload it.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, but I wasn't going to send you every little
thing that I did for TikTok, soI was going to wait till I did
it all so I could delete allthose out and then send you all
of Perfect.
So you just have to be patient,you little brat.
I'll try.
Speaking of being a brat, Ihave a question for you.
Oh, I was gonna say should wejust get into it?

(06:51):
But yes, I guess we are.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
What's the question the patrons want to know?
Are you going to join the bookclub?
Oh, I love you guys.
No, I would love to say yes,I'm already in a book club.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
It doesn't.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
It's not this one and I do not have time to read
another book.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
So I will live vicariously through your book
clubs.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
But I I'm gonna be, at least for now.
It's not a forever, but for nowI'm gonna sit out the book club
.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
But I love you all so , anyway, we did start a book
club.
But right, we did start a bookclub.
Right, we did start a book club.
You do not have to be a payingsubscriber, it's on the free
tier.
So you just have to join us,because I wanted everyone to be
able to do it, even if theycouldn't afford to, like you

(07:38):
know, subscribe to Patreonmonthly.
So you just have to subscribeto the free and then we'll get
in there.
I think this is coming out wellinto September, first week in
September, so I only have thisweek and no, based on your dates
.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Oh, I guess it would be September 4th.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, first week of September.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
OK, I don't know how to I was like.
I honestly OK, I'm going to behonest here for a second.
I thought it was July.
I need a nap.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
okay, listen to Kara, not Zach oh, okay, so anyway,
for August, we're currentlyreading which will be done.
Well, I won't be done.
I'm gonna tell you that.
So we can still chat about it.
If you started now.
It is witchcraft for waywardgirls, so if you want to listen
to that or whatever, you canstill chat with us after.
We don't have to read it alltogether.
I'm going to keep the chatsgoing after.
That's all.

(08:28):
That was my question.
That was my other little rant.
Perfect, okay, so today'sepisode we're heading deep into
the hills of Louisville,kentucky.
Hey.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
I feel like we were just there.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
Well to a place where pain lingers, to a place where
pain lingers, shadows crawl andthe dead refuse to stay quiet.
This is the tale of WaverlyHills Sanatorium, one of the
most haunting, haunting,haunting buildings in America.
We're going to rewind a littlebit.

(08:59):
We're going to go to the 1800s.
Hi In 1883, major Thomas Hayesbuilt a school for his daughters
on a quiet hilltop.
So basically, the school wherehe had his house was too far
from the regular school or theclosest school, so he just built
a school for his daughter.
He's a problem solver.
So he named it Waverly Schoolafter a series of novels by Sir

(09:23):
Walter Scott.
So his wife loved theseparticular novels and something
with Waverly's in there, sothat's where he got the name
Waverly School.
And then later on Dr JH Parrishopened a tuberculosis hospital
on the same land in 1910, and hejust kept the same name and we
have an episode basically aboutall about tuberculosis and

(09:45):
vampirism.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
I don't know what episode it is, but and that's
when I learned that consumptionwasn't alcoholism.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, ok, so this wasn't some creepy horror movie,
horror.
Wow, you rubbed off on me.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
I think Carrie's just coming out.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Right Horror movie mansion.
Back then, the originalsanatorium.
Wow, you jinx me because I waslike doing flawless.
The original sanatorium wasjust a two-story wooden building
meant to hold like 40 to 50patients, so it was very small.
But tuberculosis, or, as it wascalled, the white plague, do
you remember why?

(10:23):
Because, I had my new lighter,I would show you, you have to
light the people on fire okay,everybody listen to that episode
okay, or the white plague, soobviously tuberculosis taking
over.
Did not care that the thesanatorium could only hold 50
people did not give a shit.
So it was basically tearingthrough Louisville like a

(10:46):
wildfire.
Unfortunately, we know howtuberculosis is.
It's crazy.
And by 1926, a massive fivestory gothic revival style
sanatorium replaced the oldbuilding and this was said to
hold over 400 patients.
You look like you're about tosay something.
Oh, your face, your face.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Actually what it was is your video has been really
blurry this whole time and youjust came like picture perfect
clear and I got excited about it.
Um, but 400 is, I feel like,when you're dealing with an
infectious disease, putting 400people them together, just well,
we already know how that allgoes, yeah it wasn't just a
hospital, though.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Um.
It was known to be its ownself-contained city, complete
with a post office, a watertreatment plant and even a farm,
which obviously sounds reallycool, but obviously it's all
meant for a purpose.
Like you just said, you'recontaining people, so you can't
really go in and out, and behindthe architecture was a brutal
reality.
And behind the architecturalarchitecture was a brutal

(11:47):
reality.
Tb patients were cut off fromthe outside world, from their
friends, from their family,their freedom, it was all gone.
Treatment was experimental andoften horrific.
Fresh air therapy meant lyingoutside in freezing conditions
or in the beating hot sun.
Lungs were collapsed orsurgically removed, and when

(12:08):
none of that worked, patientsjust wasted away.
Now here's where things kind ofget a little bit darker.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Just real quick, though.
I know this was early on inmedical care, but was sunlight
really the best treatment theycould come up with?
Like I know, the answer is yes,but there had to be like Well,
no, all the other stuff wastorture essentially.
So I would rather take thefucking sun like that.
Yeah, yeah, if I had to pickone of the treatments, that's
what I want.
But like, okay, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (12:37):
All right.
So the hospital had a 500 foottunnel built beneath it and
officially it was a supply chute, but unofficially it was known
as the death tunnel, and this iswhere bodies were taken quietly
and secretly, so that livingpatients wouldn't lose hope.
So basically, when you died,you were just put, you know, on

(12:58):
a stretcher and you were takenthrough the death tunnel so that
you weren't taken through allthe floors and other patients
didn't see you.
Basically, they would justnever know you're gone, and then
their hope wouldn't vanish.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
As if they didn't notice their neighbors changing
all the time.
But okay Well.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I know so.
A conveyor belt helps staffmove corpses down the hill away
from the hospital.
Thousands of people died atWaverly Hills.
Some say like 6,000, but otherswhisper was probably more about
10,000, which if you figurebecause of tuberculosis, it
makes sense.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
And some of them never really left, so I do have
a few.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
So let's talk about some ghosts, you know one of
those things that's weird thatyou never think about is with
all the investigators goingthrough there, like I know the
TB is gone, but like what if itis hiding somewhere?
Like there's like a family ofmice or something?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
that's just like, have it.
We should look that up like, ifthat's possible that's creepy
yeah I mean, I guess, howwouldn't it?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
well, well, there's been enough regular people
through there now.
I feel like somebody would havecaught it by now.
But it's like it is weird thata place was so infectious but
now it's just fine, like justfine.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Yeah, no, that's disturbing actually when you
think about it, right?
So one of the most infamousspots is room 502.
And legend says a nurse hangedherself there in 1928 after
becoming pregnant andcontracting TB.
A few years later, anothernurse supposedly jumped from the
window and visitors reportseeing figures in an

(14:27):
old-fashioned uniforms.
So there are a couple differentthings about the woman that
hung herself.
Some say that it was becauseshe knew her child was going to
or would contract tuberculosisand, being a nurse there, she
just couldn't endure that.
Another side note is thatnurses that were there basically

(14:50):
were there.
They were just like thepatients.
They couldn't leave.
They signed on to basicallynever leave.
They couldn't go see theirfamilies, they couldn't go see
their loved ones.
They could not leave either.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
How do you make that decision?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, I don't know, it had to be like the money or
it's just, but where would youspend it?

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Unless you're sending it back to your family.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Your thought, well, yeah, it would be that, but
eventually your thought wouldprobably be that you're going to
be able to get out becausethere's going to be a cure,
because that's what you guys areworking for, I would think.
But most of the time it wouldbe to send to your family.
Yeah, so anyway, it wasbasically that she thought that
she was going to have a childthat had tuberculosis.

(15:29):
She couldn't live with that,blah blah.
Another thought is that shethen realized that she could
never come out and say that shewas pregnant because it was with
one of the doctors.
So she killed herself.
And then the third story isbasically that the doctor made
her kill herself, or basicallyhe had her killed.
So there are no records thatyou can find on her.
You can't pinpoint if this is,like, true or not.
Either way, it's really sad,and I'm sure that it is true,

(15:51):
because you have no friends orfamily.
You're only like you know.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
Yeah, you have no support system and you know like
that would be such a hard thingto live with, knowing that the
child you're bringing into theworld is destined to get an
infectious disease they'relikely going to die from.
Well, destined to get aninfectious disease, they're
likely going to die from.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Well, right, and it's honestly like, even if I can't
remember, if you're pregnant, ifyou automatically give it to
your child, I can't remember,but either way, that child is
going to be born there and isnever going to be allowed to
leave and will get it.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Yeah, they're literally going to spend their
entire life in the sanitarium.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
But I mean like it had to be so sad because you're
lonely, so you meet people thatwork there.
You probably do fall in love orlike have little flings and
things like that happen, andit's just like awful OK.
So basically, like I said,another nurse also jumped out
the window and that, I think, isjust because it's miserable
there.

Speaker 1 (16:39):
Yeah, it would get to you after a time.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
Visitors oh, I think I said this, but visitors report
seeing figures in like the oldfashioned uniforms.
You hear disembodied voices,shadows creeping across the
ceiling and then there's Timmyand it's the spirit of a young
boy said to haunt the hallwaysand people bring him balls to
play with and some claim to seethe toys that move on their own.
Like if they do bring toys,they see them moving and others

(17:04):
swear that they hear littlegiggles echoing through the
halls, which is sad because he'sobviously just a little little
one that just passed there, justgrew up there, so he's still
just trucking around playingwith some toys.
Shadow people are a reallycommon theme there, especially
on the fourth floor.
So they're supposed to be tall,faceless figures and sometimes

(17:24):
like you'll see them peekingaround the corners, kind of
watching you, or they'll startrushing at you.
That would be terrifying and ifyou're really unlucky, you might
encounter what they call thecreeper, which we now know
everybody has one, a crawling,inhuman shape that scatters
among the walls and ceilings,which, again that sounds like

(17:45):
every creeper at every placewe've ever covered, and
witnesses describe it as pureterror, which it definitely
sounds like pure terror.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
It definitely could be, yeah, I mean, whether it's
something that's like inherentlyevil or not, if it's crawling
across a wall or a ceiling at me, I'm still going to get scared.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, even the bravest ghost hunters have
tapped out after seeing it,which, again, like we just said,
I don't believe or I don'tbelieve him.
I don't blame them, holycannoli Waverly.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Somebody's a skeptic now.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
Waverly didn't close when the TB epidemic ended.
In the 1960s it reopened as theWoodhaven Geriatric Center, a
home for elderly patients withdementia and severe mental
illness, which I feel like thatplace would just make you go.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
More mental, yeah, but that's just me, or it's like
that whole thing where they sayyou know, the veil is thinner
when you're young and old, Likeyeah maybe it wasn't dementia,
maybe they were seeing thepeople they were talking, which?

Speaker 2 (18:47):
reminds me what's that movie where they buy a
house unseen because it'sclosest to where they have to
take their kid to like ahospital and he ends up like
living in the basement becausehe like really wants to and he's
like that's the whole promiseof it.
He's like dying.
So he sees all the weird thingsor is like tricked.
You.
You know what I'm talking aboutHaunting in Connecticut.

(19:07):
Is that what it is, maybe?

Speaker 1 (19:10):
But so I think it's just a little bit backwards.
He starts to get really sickafter they move there and they
can't decide if it's possessionor no.
It's not that movie.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
They move him there, because the movie I'm thinking
of is they move there.
They don't even see the house,because it was a great deal and
they needed it to get him closerto his medical stuff and
because he's borderline dying.
He's on the like you just said.
He's on the veil and he can seeeverything.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
It's weird, I don't know, hold on, I know what
you're talking about and I'mpretty sure it's the same actor.
Oh, maybe, and I think that'swhy I'm confusing him.
Maybe and I think that's whyI'm confusing him Kyle Gallner,
for sure I don't know.
You might be thinking ofHuntington, connecticut, though,
because I know he's like supersick and dying in that movie.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Maybe it is that I just thought they bought the
house because he was sick.
Whatever, it doesn't evenfucking matter.
Ok.
So in the late 1980s, though,reports of neglect, abuse and
overcrowding shut it down forgood.
So thankfully, I mean, if we'reabusing old people, which
reminds me of Happy Gilmore youknow what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
I mean not terribly funny but yes, but it's
unfortunate that something thathappens so much with dementia
homes.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
The arts and crafts.
My fingers hurt.
Do you know what I'm talkingabout?
I do.
I have not seen that movie,though, since I was like you
know what I'm talking about, Ido.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
I have not seen that movie, though, since I was like
a child.
I'm going to be honest, adamSandler kind of drives me insane
, don't?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
talk about it, it'll piss me off, okay, so after that
it just stayed abandoned.
Locals broke in, as they do.
They whispered stories ofsatanic rituals and they tagged
the walls with spray paint anddid all the other things that we
do.
Paranormal investigatorsflocked there and waverly earned
its title as one of the mosthaunted places on earth, and

(20:57):
today it's privately owned andyou can book tours or even stay
the night if you're brave enough, and they do host every october
They'll do.
You know events and you knowyou can do.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
Investigations.

Speaker 2 (21:09):
Thank you, Holy cannoli, you jinxed me, but the
real question is basically, ifit isn't haunted or it is, why
Is it like just all the pain,the trauma, the volume of death,
or is it something darkerthat's maybe always been there
in the bricks of Waverly?
So it just really depends onwhat you think.

(21:30):
And Zachary and I actually wentthere.
Before we went to HauntersAgainst Hate, we booked
ourselves a little two-hourparanormal tour, so we actually
went there and I wish we hadmore to tell you.
I will say this.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
I mean we can be honest yeah, we had more to tell
you.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
I will say this.
I mean we can be honest.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, I'm going to do it.
I think if you are looking togo learn about the history and
things that happen in there,book the paranormal tour.
If you are looking to do anysort of investigation,
experiment or experience theparanormal yourself, book an
overnight or a private tour.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yes, so we didn't have a lot of time.
I have always wanted to go toWaverly.
It's been one of my places thatI've always wanted to go.
I was like holy shit, zach, ifwe go Friday night we can get a
10 hour tour at 10 pm.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
And you know obviously Zach's down, so it's
listed as a paranormal tour.
I was expecting it to be moreparanormal.
It was very history heavy,which to me it's just
disappointed.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
Disappointing because if you book paranormal and you
don't book the history, I wantmore paranormal.
I think the emphasis was reallyon the word tour and less on
the word paranormal, yes, but welearned we got to go through
the body shoot.
We did or the death tunnel.
And see just about every floor.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
We did.
We got to take a lot ofpictures.
We were not allowed to takevideos, which I was bummed about
because I wanted to take somevideos for you guys, but we took
a ton of pictures.
Zachary got some really cutenew pictures for his profiles.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Well, you can have some too.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
You just haven't uploaded them yet I don't know
if they're as good as what Itook for you uh, I, I took a
pretty fire one.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I'm just kidding, I haven't looked, you haven't
looked, yeah so, um, we'redefinitely going to go back.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
We're going to go back because it is gorgeous it
has to be.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I mean just one of the most insane buildings I've
ever pulled up to, and it was,was so dark, though, when we got
there.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I know so we barely got to really see it, but it was
beautiful and we're definitelygoing to go back and we're going
to do an overnight.
We have to.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Well, should we put a little teaser in here?

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Well, I don't know, because I have no idea if that's
going to ever happen.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
The thing is we're going to make it some sort of
event held at Waverly, andthat's where I'll leave it,
let's say event very loosely.
Oh well, there'll be some sortof something where Karen and I
would like to invite some of youSome sort of?
Something where we'll be there.
So keep our eyes peeled though,because there's there's some

(24:05):
chats happening.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
OK.
So because I thought that maybewe would have more of our
experience to talk about, thiswas a little bit of a shorter
episode, and then also I didn'twant to get into too much of
like the gruesome details ofdying of tuberculosis because we
kind of already covered that.
So I do have a Reddit story forus and it is a lengthier one.
Okay so don't you worry, I willnot cut.
Let's go.

(24:27):
Okay, so this was posted sevenyears ago.
GXDMN Batgirl is the usernameand it's Waverly Hills my
experiences in a hauntedsanatorium.
Hello all, I don't know why shesounds like that.

(24:48):
A fellow Redditor asked me toshare a post about some of my
experiences I had investigatingWaverly Hills Sanatorium in
Louisville, kentucky.
As I've already stated in thepost in the paranormal subreddit
, I have been researching andinvestigating the paranormal
since 1998.
I do have my own team and Ihave visited some of the most

(25:09):
notoriously haunted locationsaround the US.
I should also mention that I ama sensitive and this gift does
enhance my investigations.
This post will be somewhat longbut hopefully it grabs your
interest and you read throughtill the end with a smiley face.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
We're gonna back girl , we got you.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
I visited Waverly Hills back in July 2012 and had
three other investigators withme Eric, Tommy and Debbie.
Have you ever been?
Have you ever seen the buildingbefore?
It is worth looking it up.
It's huge and incredible to seein person.
It will be hard for me to sumit up.
Sum up my experiences withoutgoing into great detail, because
I feel that the full effect ofthese experiences can only be

(25:51):
truly felt with very vividdescriptions, but I will do my
best.
This was the one place I hadnever investigated.
I'm sorry.
I have ever investigated.
That made me uneasy enough towant to leave, but the sensation
only came over me and my teamwhen we entered the fifth floor.
Legend states that the hospitalwas in operation 1910 to 1961.

(26:14):
A nurse had an affair with adoctor and became pregnant.
Not only that, but she, andtherefore her unborn baby, had
contracted tuberculosis, thedisease the sanatorium was
determined to cure.
Unable to handle the stress ofher transgression and unable to
bear the thought of her childbeing born with this disease,
she performed her own abortionand threw her baby inside the
sewer system, and then shehanged herself.

(26:36):
See, there's so many storiesaround that one.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
So many variations.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
No, this claim is not conclusively substantiated.
It is just legend, folklore.
I am not saying that this isparticularly this particular
entity I encountered here.
I am just including this asbackground.
Hospital staff as well aspatients contracted TB and
passed away from the disease.
So the entity I interacted withat Waverly could have been any

(27:03):
one of those nurses.
As I mentioned earlier, I amsensitive.
In a previous investigation atProspect Place Mansion in Ohio I
had made a connection with afemale spirit there.
It became so strong that at onepoint, while communicating with
her and her and other entitiesthrough the SB7 spirit box, I

(27:23):
started to feel her emotions andbecame so overwhelmed that I
started to cry, I know.
Once the session was concludedmy own feelings came back to me,
but the residue of her energystayed with me for the duration
of the night At Waverly.
Once we reached the fifth floor, I became extremely

(27:44):
apprehensive.
Usually I will be at the frontof my team, guiding them to
particular locations accordingto the strengths and energies in
the building.
Sometimes I will follow upbehind in an effort to sort of
protect my teammates.
In this particular case I didneither.
Feeling incredibly nervous, Iput my back up against the wall

(28:04):
and would not move away from it.
I tried to maintain mycomposure the best I could, but
I felt slightly safer when lessexposed.
I wanted so badly to leave, butI knew that I could not abandon
an investigation or my team.
I could not let them down.
That's crazy, because if I feltlike that, I might be like I'm
sorry, guys, I'm out, y'all goon.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I get that though, like I feel like if you feel
like you're leading them likeyou don't want to ruin everyone
else's time, or whatever.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
Yeah, no, but I would just be like I got to go out
the parking lot.
Y'all keep going.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Right, I'll be right back, yeah, maybe.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
In my uncomfortable state, I pressed on leading my
team in an EVP session.
We began asking basic questionsto try to see if there were
intelligent entities with us.
One investigator stated that wewouldn't judge her for what
happened to her and that it wassafe for her to talk to us.
After a few moments of silence,I heard footsteps walking

(28:59):
around us.
Later on, when I reviewed theaudio, I heard four very clear
footsteps which sounded like alady's heeled shoes clicking on
the linoleum.
It was fast-paced walk and asif she had somewhere important
to be.
Perhaps the doctor inquired herfor assistance in surgery.
This would lead to otherexperiences throughout the night
.
After the fifth floor, we madeour way back down to the first

(29:20):
floor I move around according tothe pull of the energy in the
building to the electroshocktherapy room, and there we
decided to.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Sorry, real quick.
Did she say like how the energypulls her or just leave it at
that?
She didn't really say.
I wonder, how Like is it likean internal feeling?

Speaker 2 (29:39):
Yeah, I would imagine In here we decided to separate,
with each of us in a differentcorner of the room.
We decided to conduct an SB7spirit box session and we were
not disappointed.
Please note that there wasvirtually zero radio
interference due to thebuilding's location and distance
from any major cities or radiotowers.
We started with the usualintroductory statements and

(30:02):
asked the usual questions.
What I look for is intelligence, so I try to elect a real-time
response from any entities whichmight be present.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Do you mean illicit time?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
response from any entities which might be present.
Do you mean illicit Yep?
Thank you.
I said out loud that we hadcome a long way to speak with
them, that we had traveled allthe way from New York.
I asked if they knew where NewYork was.
A female voice came up throughthe box north.
Having received an intelligentresponse, I asked if she could
tell me the name of any of thepersons on my team.

(30:35):
The same female voice camethrough again and said Thomas.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Okay, two for two.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Naturally, we were impressed we continued on,
having received two intelligentresponses, both in the same
female's voice.
I said I'm hearing a female, dowe have a lady here?
What came next was disturbing.
Three different voices, darkvoices, came through, joined
together saying don't speak withher.
This sent chills up my spine.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
That just kind of gave me chills.
Also, I feel like that'ssomething we've had happen
ourselves with the spirit boxwhere?

Speaker 2 (31:10):
multiple voices coming through at once.

Speaker 1 (31:12):
Yeah, it can be a very odd feeling.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I started asking questions like who am I speaking
with now?
Why can't I speak with her?
What do you want with her?
I told them that they had noright to keep her and told them
to let her go, if they ever did.
I do not know.
We did not receive anotherresponse from those dark voices,
nor did we hear from the nurse,as I presume that was who we
were communicating with In thisroom.
Again, we moved on.

(31:37):
Next we went back upstairs, thistime to the fourth floor's main
operating room, liking the ideaof using trigger objects.
I brought dusk masks with us tosimulate as doctor's masks In
the room.
Eric took on the role as thedoctor.
We started another spiritsession.
Tommy asked do we have anynurses here that can help us?
A female voice responded yes.

(31:58):
I then asked do we have a nursehere?
Can you come over to the doctorand let him know that you're
here and you're ready?
Again, the female voice saidhere.
I asked you're here, nurse?
How many patients do you haveon this list for today?
The female voice responds three.
My theory here is that sherecognized Eric as a doctor.
Perhaps she thought the otherthree of us were patients.

(32:21):
That's kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
It's kind of interesting in the fact that
it's an intelligent response,but it's not realizing who they
are.
It's almost like a mix betweenintelligent and residual.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Or she's just thinking you guys are stupid.
I actually do have patientshere.
Get out of my way, right?
The conversation continued.
Tommy, what's the first step?
Nurse?
Give him first aid?
We asked more questions likethis, but she did not respond to
them.
I'm sorry if you didn'tunderstand.
The nurse said give him firstaid.
That was a quote.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
I got what you're saying, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
We asked more questions like this, but she did
not respond to them.
The next question she didrespond to was mine,
approximately four minutes afterthe previous response Me.
Can you tell any of us ournames?
We are the doctor's assistants,nurse Three.
We continue trying to conversewith her, but this was the last

(33:17):
response she gave us.
I felt that after a few momentsof her silence she had left the
room.
My final encounter with thenurse of waverly hills happened
after our investigation hadended at 3 am.
We had gathered up all of ourgear and headed back down to the
gift shop which had beendesigned as headquarters for the
evening.
Our tour guide had stayed downthere while we were conducting
our investigations, but when wegot back down there he had asked

(33:38):
if any of us would be willingto go back into the building
with him so he could lock up.
Of course we all volunteered togo and so we did, which.
That's so funny that, likeright, they don't go by
themselves to lock up.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
That just means you know they've had some stuff
happen where they're like yeahcan somebody go with me?

Speaker 2 (34:00):
can you hold my hand?
That's wild because I feel likeI mean we didn't have
experience this year so I can'tnot attest to this.
But even at loe is like I willwalk all over that place in the
pitchback by myself, like Idon't have that feeling yeah, I,
I guess, though it would haveto.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
We also haven't had some of the more like scary
again, not inherently evil, butscarier things happen to us
there, and I feel like if one ofthose occurred in a night.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
I would be like come with me.
No, that's true.
I mean we've had some wild assthings that could be really
scary, but we're just like butyeah, you're right, no longer
feeling uneasy.
But yeah, you're right, nolonger feeling uneasy.
I followed up at the back ofthe group, hoping to get a few
moments away from everyone toexperience the last bit of
energy that Waverly was willingto share with me.
As I was walking past a verylarge room I'm not exactly sure

(34:45):
which room it was, as it wasstill pitch black inside the
building I distinctly heard awoman speaking.
It had definite female tonesand it spoke a full sentence as
if it was a conversation withsomebody else.
Unfortunately, I could not makeout what she was saying, but I
know for a fact that I heard adisembodied voice with my own
ears.
This was really amazingexperience for me, as I had

(35:06):
never had a had such a strongconnection with the spirit
before.
The nurse was with us from thebeginning of our investigation
until the very end, saving thelast bit of evidence just for me
.
She made the night trulyspecial, one I will certainly
never forget.
I can't wait to get back thereand investigate again.
I wonder if she'll remember me,you gave me goosebumps, oh my

(35:27):
god.
So I wish we had a story to tellyou, but I thought that was a
good one.

Speaker 1 (35:32):
No, that is a good one.
I think it.
But that also goes to prove,though, that just because one
person does, or one persondoesn't have an experience at a
haunted location doesn't mean wecan say if you go somewhere one
night and nothing happens,doesn't mean you can say it's
not haunted.
Or if you go somewhere onenight and some weird stuff
happens, you can't 100% say itis.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Well yeah.
And to happens, you can't 100say it is well, yeah.
And to be fair, like we said,we were just kind of on a tour
so we didn't even have theopportunity to.
That is very true.
So, yeah, I 100.
We did walk down the hallway byourselves in the dark and
everybody watched us which wasweird oh I yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
The scariest part was during that when the uh tour
guide told me I looked twice aswide.
I said hey now.
But that was just a play onlights, um, but no, I think it's
definitely.
It's.
The history of it is just so,because you had said earlier,
like you don't know if it's evilfrom before or you know
something that was there beforeor after or whatnot, I don't

(36:28):
think it was.
I think kentucky has definitely, though just like enough
history around it that therecould be stuff with the land.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
But I don't really think it's the land.
I just don't.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Thousands upon thousands, upon thousands of
people who, like, lived either agood chunk or some all of their
lives there.
You know, and one of the thingsthey had mentioned too is like
whole families came there, yeah,and were separated, because if
you didn't have like quote,unquote too, is like whole
families came there, yeah, andwe're separated, because if you
didn't have like quote unquotechild care.
Your kids came with you andeven if they didn't have it A
lot of times the whole familygot it too yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Right, yeah, I don't think.
I think it's definitely becauseso many people have passed away
there there's so much traumaand neglect, abuse, and then you
figure, after became uh, a, um,oh my god for dementia, yes.
And then it's like, hey, that'sright, and then they were also,
though, being abused andneglected and dying.
So it's like there's just somuch death there and just so

(37:23):
much misery, whether it was justpeople just mourning the people
that they lost, nurses thatwere mourning the families that
they couldn't go back to.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
There's just so much pain and misery there I will say
, though, for some of of thecreepier buildings we've been in
, gorgeous, at least this one.
If you had to spend your wholelife there, dang, did you really
get it?
I mean, that place was built tolet sunlight in.
Oh yeah, during the day.
I'm sure it had to be justbeautifully lit up.
It is gorgeous.

(37:51):
What was weird was the windowsin the surgical room, where they
were saying they were using alot of chemicals or trying to
let in sunlight, but it was avery tiny surgical room with a
lot of fresh air coming in, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
So anyway, oddballs, that is our little side quest
that we took when we went toLouisville, to Waverly Hill
Sanatorium.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
And we're going back.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
We are going back and we're going to keep you posted
on whatever that might look like, but we are definitely going
back.
Since we kept this one realshort, should we talk for a few
minutes about Cave Hill Cemetery?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Oh sure.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
Because, okay.
So we, we had a little bit oftime to kill in the morning and
Kara was getting ready.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
We had.
No, I'm so proud of us becauseZach and I usually are like
stumbling out of bed, likebarely have time to get to the
event.
This one didn't start until 10.
But there was just not too manythings we wanted to hit in the
morning.
But we got up early.
We were out of our hotel bylike 915 930.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
Right, we had breakfast and coffee.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
Yeah, we were real humans I will give credit to
zachary because he said hey,there's a cemetery that looks
really beautiful.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
I'm saying I'm down and holy smokes I mean, we spent
two, two and a half hours twoand a half hours we probably
didn't see half of it but if youguys ever get the chance to go
to Cave Hill Cemetery.
First of all, colonel Sanders,muhammad Ali, gentlemen we had
no idea of before, but theFrito-Lay Company magician, who

(39:24):
is apparently very famous, andso many other noteworthy graves
I mean just some of the mostbeautiful graves, and it's all
built into hills with littlelakes around and it's an
arboretum, so there's trees ofall sorts of different kinds.
There it was.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
I mean I could have, I could have spent eight hours
there easy yeah, I don't evenknow how to explain how
beautiful it was in, like thevideos.
We took so many videos andpictures, like probably like a
thousand, and it still doesn'tdo justice of how beautiful this
place is, like it's gorgeousthere's like multiple, multiple,
multiple stones that havestained glass built.

(40:00):
Yes, and just sculptures,beautiful.
And then there was two little um, not lakes, but uh scattering
ponds scattering ponds and thenthey had little plaques where
you could see everybody that wasscattered into the pond and we
saw little baby turtles in thepond.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Which hopefully they're finding food source
other than what's thrown intothe pond.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Oh, and then remember those trees that had the like,
almost like the ashes were likein remember.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Oh, oh, oh oh.
You mean like the trees in theroundabouts that had the stones
with the ashes laid into them?
Yeah, yeah, it was just acemetery that I haven't seen,
like all the different types ofburial options, everything they
had it was.
So if you ever get the chanceand you're in louisville,
definitely, definitely,definitely, head over to that oh
my god, it was gorgeous yeah,gorgeous.

(40:49):
So one of my favorite parts, ohfor sure, going there.
Soballs, you have to, you haveto help us with this one.
We're manifesting a Waverlysomething.
If you're interested in going,reach out and let us know.
Tara's already looking nervous.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
She's like I don't look, I'm not nervous, I just
think that we've barely evenspoke about this, so that's OK.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
It's already booked out for the next year, so we
have some time to figure it out.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Okay, all right, outballs, you heard, uh, also
join our Patreon, or just joinour book club on Patreon.
It's a very loose book club soyou don't have to feel like you
know you got to read.
You can listen, you can pop inwhenever the hell you finish the
book.
Yeah, and get at us, leave ussome stories.
Maybe just a headstone?
I think so Because we talkedabout the cemetery and that was

(41:37):
beautiful.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
And since we always ask for your stories and we plan
to share with you some of ourstories on this episode.
And it didn't work out, ifyou've ever gotten to go to
Waverly and had experiences ofyour own, let us know about
those or anything else just oddor strange that's happened in
your life.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
And give us some recommendations of other things
you want to hear about.

Speaker 1 (41:55):
Yes, always need more .
All right, should we close itup for the day.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Yeah, that's all we have for you.
We love you, we appreciate youand the most important thing you
can do for us is to creep areel my little eyeballs.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Goodbye, bye.
Guitar solo In the shadows Atthe Irish shop and home with the
eyeballs At the Irish shop.
The door's always open At theIrish shop.
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