FREEDOM OUTBOARD | Ep061 | Off The Clock with B Scott - Off The Clock with B Scott

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's 5 o'clock and you're off the clock with BS
Scott.
Today we're excited to have asour guest Kevin Marfiotti and
Jeremiah Bowerman from FreedomOutboards.
Guys, if you have not seentheir Freedom Outboard on a
Havoc MSTC, these guys arechanging the game.
Alright, this is something thatreally there hasn't ever been.
Take an outboard, take a mudmotor.
What you love and hate aboutboth of them, combine them in

(00:21):
the middle.
It's a perfect unit.
Okay, you can do.
It's a full seasonal rig.
They're gonna walk us throughit, tell us how they got to
where they are today and justtell us a little bit about the
operation there.
So, guys, do not miss it out.
But before we get into it,check out these new shirts that
just dropped in the gear shop.
Now let's dive in.
So, kevin, jeremiah, thank youguys for coming, man, it's been

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a long trip for you guys.
Huh yeah, a little bit littlehike I'm glad y'all are here,
though, and we get to walk downand look at the plant.
It's first time y'all been here.
You know, we went up to newyork and saw y'all's plant,
which was crazy awesome.
Yeah way mind-blowing foranybody ever been in a robotics
factory.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yeah, I had no idea they built robots.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's crazy, dude, that's insane so kind of let's
get right in the beginning of it.
So the freedom motor.
What is it?
How to become what it is today?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
so there's been a long process to get here.
Uh, you know, we started out alot of r&d, a lot of figuring
out what's going to work, how tocool it.
But the freedom outboard motoris essentially a closed loop
cooled motor, right.
So we take a standard outboard,something that everyone knows
and loves, and we add somecooling fins, some external

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features to really make itself-sustaining, self-contained
cooling system so that you cantake it into more harsh
environments.
You know areas where you can'tpull the water up into the motor
to cool the motor.
Um, and really we we got therebecause, uh, we were approached
by um, by a gentleman that thathad the idea he's a duck hunter

(01:56):
and he said he wanted to takehis outboard into an area where
he couldn't you know it was.
It was mud and, uh, uh, verylittle water.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
So, um, what we did was took that, that idea and,
throughout the years, elaboratedon it and got it to where it is
today so that everyone can useit so you're basically going
after a problem you know, likehow can I have the comfort of an
outboard and the ease ofdriving and the performance of
an outboard and make it intosomething that can go through

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more durable areas?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Yep, exactly Yep, and I mean that's, you know, our
partner, our sister company, aswell as Freedom.
I mean that's what we do.
We solve problems right.
So that's exactly it.
It came to us with a problemand we solved it right, and now
we have the Freedom Outboardthat everyone's seen and we're
trying to get out there in theworld.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
It's doing a good job .

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I mean it's definitely making an impact it
is and as driving I used todrive years in the past being a
mud buddy it was incomparablebecause you've got to get to
these rough areas and a lot ofplaces you can go when you're
outboard, but you can't goeverywhere in outboard.
Well, what I like about theFreedom is you can go everywhere
and that 20% of really intensehard driving you can still make

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it through.
But then the 80% have thecomfort.
That's what I like most is thecomfort of it.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, you know what I think about.
The 80-20 thing is a good wayof looking at it.
And will this Freedom fiteverybody's needs?
Maybe, maybe not, but I dothink it will solve.
You know, 100 of the peoplethat buy surface drives only use
the motor to the full potential20 of the time.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
So the 80 of the time that freedom will give you the
luxury of an outboard motor, andI think that's what everybody's
liking about it yeah, I mean,and that was, you know, part of
our goal right, we wantedsomething quieter, something
more comfortable, somethingeveryone's used to, something
that everyone can take.
But also, you got these peoplethat are, you know, in hunting
areas and fishing areas and theywant to go and explore

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additional bodies of water thatthey couldn't get to before, and
this is really a comfortable,you know more well-known way to
do that.
It drives just like an outboard.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
That's right, it drives like an outboard and 20%
of the time, if you need to pushthat button for a wheel drive,
it's there.
And that's pretty uniquebecause you don't have to buy
two motors, right?
You have one motor that can dothe job and it can save you a
lot of money, and it could saveyou a lot of money and it'll get

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you where you want to go.
And brian and you know we'vehad a ton of people use this
motor this year.
You know brian's tested boatsmotors for what?
10 years, 15 years now?
Yep, so what do you think aboutit?

Speaker 4 (04:38):
it's it as soon as I got it and drove it I thought,
okay, this is pretty cool.
And uh, it was.
It is new.
So it's like hard to wrap yourmind around.
But when you get in it and youease down the river and it's
like driving an outboard.
And then when you get in theshallows you got four-wheel
drive and I mean, that's that'sultimately.
It's quieter, easier to driveand it would run through the

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shallows.
I don't have to worry aboutburning my outboard up, so I
didn't't have to.
If I'm scouting the river orsomething say, I hunt that
morning, then I want to goscouting.
Used to, I would just try tomake a short trip as I could.
This is an enjoyable motor todrive.
You know, my surface drive washard to drive, arms all tired,
your ears are blowed out.
Man, this is comfortable.

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And then you're like, nextthing, you know you're two hours
into a trip and you're like allright, I got to get back, I got
to get home, you know, but timewill get away from you with
this motor.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Yeah, yeah, it gives you the it's comfortable.
Yeah, it's comfortable.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
And that's to me as much as it's worth anything, is
the comfortability.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
Yes, yes, and it still gets Right.
But you know, like you said,you can go scout longer, further
.
You're not picking a boat rampto work around your scouting
area.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Yeah, you're always like okay, if I put in here it's
a 10-minute boat ride, I don'twant to drive my surface drive
more than 10 minutes.
Dude, I'll drive this motor twohours, that's right, I don't
care how far it is.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
So you know, the Freedom gives you a lot of
people just think it's weirdlooking and to me.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
I see it as like being a.
You know you can buy one rig,one motor and it's a multiple
season, it's a winter and summer.
You know unit yeah.
Like you don't have to switchboats, you don't have to switch
motors.
Like you can go out there, getin the backwaters, you can go
duck hunting, you can go to thesandbar, you can do whatever you

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want to do with one unit.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah, that's definitely kind of this thing
that we've been trying to embodyhere as the brand has kind of
progressed since our firstlaunch, and kind of what we have
answered to what the folks youknow here sitting in the
environment of it, what you guyssee on the day to day.
Y'all are the experts of your,your territory, but we really
would like to embody that ideaof freedom.
Right, we are our name, yeah,and we will give that

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opportunity to folks to be ableto take it tubing, to take it
out to the hunting holes is thatwhy the motor's name freedom?

Speaker 4 (06:58):
where'd that come from?
Where'd the freedom come from?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
mean, the story isn't really that exciting, that's so
funny, that's so funny.
Yeah it was just.
Yeah, there was a bunch ofnames tossed around, that was
the best one.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, yeah, I got you .
It serves a purpose.
The name does it, it does.
So I got to start thinking man,do they plan this?

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, so that was definitely part of it, and you
know know, hearing these andhearing stories, the people that
are that we made these forright that's why we do it, to
hear that like yeah you took itout.
You don't care if you're goingtwo hours to where you need to
go.
You know you don't care whatyou're doing.
You don't have to be, you knowspecific or intentional with
where you're going.
You can just take it anywhereand you know what.
It's going to be fun.
It's going to drive just likean outboard motor it is.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
it's.
It's really amazing.
It really is good for having,it's good for freedom, it's good
for the person that wants to goduck hunting that doesn't have
to deal with the drama of theservice drive.
And I'm not saying the servicedrive is obsolete, I'm just
saying for some people thisfreedom is a better option.
Right, and there is advantagesof a service drive.

(08:02):
You know, I wish Freddie Kingcould have been here, but this
podcast was a last-minute thingand Freddie King did a really
good job for us this year andsometimes I wonder who's going
to buy this motor.
But then you hear all thecustomers, all the emails.
We've got hundreds of freedomsgoing out, and so the demands
there B Scott made made a.

(08:23):
Really I like your commentearlier that the negative
comments on social media michaelshuckley can add on this he's a
social media king over there,warrior, but he's a warrior, but
no b scott.
Uh, what'd you say about thenegative comments?

Speaker 1 (08:36):
I was like, oh well, the freedom outboard is gonna
way outlast the negativecomments on facebook yeah, it'll
be around a lot longer.
Absolutely Is your mic out.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah it went out.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
I wasn't trying to Did you just unplug your mic.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
I wasn't trying to draw it to you.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
I was trying to go undercover but you busted me out
.
It's back in.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I looked in your eyes .

Speaker 5 (09:01):
I can tell you didn't know how to fix it.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
I was like if you would've knew how to fix it.
I was like, oh, If you wouldn'tknow how to fix it.
I wouldn't fix it.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
I was like, we'll get back on it, though We'll
pretend that never happened.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
I was like Houston, we have a problem he ended up
like I'm lost.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
He ended up like I'm lost at Walmart.
That came out of my mom's eyes.
Now you've got me looking at,but anyways, I just really think
that I.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
I had a bad habit of pulling the wire.
Beast got busted me out.
I was trying to get undercoverMe and David was on the same
page.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
I could see it in his eyes he had a problem.
But anyways, what I was sayingwas man, it's like, of course
there's going to be haters toanything new.
People are going to try todebunk it any chance they get
and I understand right.
People hate People.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
They're scared of change.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Well, for some people , their mud motor has been a way
of life.
Yeah, some people need a mudmotor all the time.

Speaker 6 (09:46):
That's what I was going to say.
There's a place for them.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
There's a place for both of them, but that's only
20% of the people.
Yeah, I mean, sadly, there is aplace for a mud motor.

Speaker 6 (09:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, there is, there is, and the freedom's though.
That's right, yes, and you know, yes, and we also showed a
video of a, uh, a freedomoutboard on a mod 40, uh, gen 2,
and was able to ride that.
You know we used to drive thatmotor up higher in the water

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column turn a big 17 pitch prop,you know, you know solace and
and that thing totally the noselike any other mod 40 out there.
So you know a lot of peopledon't understand that the
freedom is more than justbehavior.
The outboard it's also a bit ofa performance motor it is
because you can raise the motor.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
We've not even talked about that.
That's right.
This might be a whole new.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, this might be something new in the four-stroke
racing world I mean, we alreadytalked to somebody in
california, right, that wantsone to race, right.
So obviously there's peopleseeing advantages of this motor
other than what we did with it.
And it's all about proptechnology, it's all about RPMs.
What will this motor turn?

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Rpms and top in speed.

Speaker 4 (11:00):
And for years that's been the deal.
You don't ever say man, I wishmy motor could get lower, I wish
I could run my motor lower.
No, everyone wants to go uphigher, let's go up.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
And freedom gives the elevation to the customer.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
Freedom to do that.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
And that's what's so cool about those plates.
People's first questions.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
He's digging his mustache over there digging on
the freedom.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Dude, you got a killer mustache man appreciate
it.
That's a nice stash, yeah so.
So a lot of the questions thatyou get right like what are
those plates?
And you know, we tell them whatit is closely.
You know, obviously, where thecoolant goes to cool off in the
water, but what's magical aboutthe plates that a lot of people
don't notice is how it trapswater and allows you to almost
funnel water at a higher levelyeah, it's I.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
It essentially works similar to like a hydroplane.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
It does, it does.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
That was, you know, intentional and that's you know.
We spent a lot of timeadjusting the angles, figuring
out how we're going to optimizewhat that's doing.
We want it to run in the water,but not very much right.
Minimal drag, because you'regetting cooling from both the
water and the air right and andit's enough.
And it keeps the motor runningat stock temperatures and it
keeps it running whether it's inthe water or out of the water.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
It's amazing you know it really is exactly how many
times have we tested calf platesat the races?

Speaker 6 (12:17):
a lot you know, and every one of them ran different.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yes, you know and a lot of people said that.
You know a lot of people's like, hey, can we take the plates
off the motor?
It's causing issues.
That's all we ever done at theboat race is put plates on
motors.
So explain that.
What the hell these peoplethinking like we want to hold
water on the prop?
Right, we don't want propslippers.
You got a big.
You got a big aggressive mudprop out there.

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You want to hold as much wateron the prop as you can right and
it also helps you get out ofthe hole.

Speaker 6 (12:45):
It helps you get out of the hole.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
It's amazing.
It's an amazing piece ofmachinery.
I think a lot of people arejudging the machinery because of
the hate for the freedom versusthe mud motor.

Speaker 6 (12:55):
It is, it's all, it is.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
But they're definitely going to lose.

Speaker 6 (12:58):
If you could drive that boat and motor down the
highway, people would talk smack.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
Absolutely would.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Yeah they would.
I mean as an old friend saysthe Internet gives weak people
hope.
I love it.
Yep, it's the truth.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
It is the truth, it's amazing, the machine is amazing
.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
But, jake, how are you seeing the sales of this
machine?

Speaker 7 (13:21):
Excuse me, we can't.
Our issue is, we can't makethem quick enough.
We can't make the boats and getthe motors in quick enough, I
mean, and sky's the limit forthis thing.
And for the people that areskeptical, I would just say hop
on the train now.
I mean, why are you stillcaning before it's taken off?
That's right.
That's my view on it.
I mean, geez, it's wild.

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The calls, the emails,everything that we've gotten
since we've announced it.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
It's been nuts.
We've got people chasing trucksdown.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
Yeah, fallen dealers as we're being delivered.
Fallen dealers, yeah, fallendealers.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
We had a dealer that called me and said, hey, we just
got a load of freedoms in, andthese people followed the truck
to the dealership and purchasethe boats before they get off
the truck.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Yep, yeah, that's, it's been it's been amazing,
honestly, to speak to the theproduction side.
I mean we have been workinghard and and growing our staff,
increasing our production, um,you know, working on
efficiencies and everything aswell to uh, to clean, to, you
know, to make sure the operationcan get the motors out faster,
because I mean great, mean greatproblem to have not going to

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lie, but we want to make sureeveryone that wants a Freedom
Outboard motor on a Havoc boatcan get their package.

Speaker 7 (14:33):
Absolutely, it's coming.
I mean it's just a matter oftime before we get there.
Y'all get there, and then Imean we'll be rocking and
rolling then.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
So let's talk about the futures coming up.
So the first thing you'reworking on now, right, what is
that?
Because that's what I'm excitedabout.
Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 4 (14:49):
it is.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I knew you were going to go here.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
I knew you were going to go here.
So for the future, obviouslywe're not going to just stop
with a 40, 50, and 60 horsemotor.
We're actually very excited.
We've made some great stridesand we're in the process of
finalizing our 25 and 30-horsemotors.
So those are the next ones up,and Havoc will know as soon as
they're ready, because they'llhave one in their hands to go.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
That's right.
I call shotgun, shotgun,shotgun.

Speaker 6 (15:19):
You better be able to make a bunch of them.

Speaker 3 (15:22):
I think everybody's excited about that.
I mean we're getting 100 emails, jake's getting his phone blown
up.
I mean it's just a wonderfulthing, but you know.
But I want to say one thingthough you know, when we signed
on with this, we we startedpartnerships with with freedom.
I mean you gotta put your handsdown.
These guys has changed thingsfor you.
What?
What?

(15:42):
I mean they've 100 listened tothe people using the motors,
right, yeah, 100, and they'vemade changes.
They have they're adapting, umhavoc also built different
transom heights and to get thebest performance out of the
boats, the motors, uh, you knowthat.
That to me, reminds me of havocthe way we adapt to our

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customer needs, right.
So there's no reason in my mindthat this will not grow into
something huge because of thewilling to.
You know, one thing that Havocdoes is like we're not arrogant
people.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
You listen to the customer.
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
some people say now, if you go on the Internet, I'm
arrogant, but they confusearrogant with confidence.
Right, but you know you have tolisten to your customers.
You have to listen to yourcustomers, you gotta adapt to it
and you gotta take all the hatewith it.
You know, you know and, andthat's what it's.
Sometimes we struggle becausewe know what the machine is, we

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know what you guys put in themachine, you know and what we
put in the machine, so it's hardto get sideways.
You know, take all the hate.
It puts you in a bad mood.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
Well, just like this 25.
This is a prime example thatwe've had a lot of questions and
calls asking about that I meanbecause of the horsepower
restriction.
In Arkansas there's a lot ofWMAs that are 25 restriction.

Speaker 7 (17:00):
And going off of what Tim was talking about, listen
to the customer.
I mean, y'all have been outthere since what?
2017?
Is that right?
Yep, and that's kind of whatI'm curious on, because a lot of
the skepticism out there, yousee, are comments on you know,
y'all been around for a whileand this and that, so I want to
know about between then and now,and not so much now and the

(17:22):
future.
I want to know what that thenand now, what, and not so much
now and the future.
I want I want to know what thatpath has been like since 2017.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah, so I mean it's.
It hasn't been an easy road,it's been a bumpy road right,
it's been a hard road I mean,and anyone that's yeah, it has
it really has Manufacturing anddeveloping is tough

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no-transcript recognize as afreedom outboard at this point
because it is so drasticallydifferent than what's out there
today?
And I'm I mean we've.
We've made mistakes along theway, but I can tell you this
what we did was we took it, weimproved it, we simplified it
and we really made it a fullymechanical piece that doesn't

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rely on anything but that motorrunning, which is what outboards
do, right?
That's why we all buy them,because they're reliable and
when it's running, our coolingsystem is working.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
So I mean really taking what we learned and
making the adjustments are whatgot us to you know where we are.

Speaker 7 (18:47):
So what was the point that you knew like, hey, this
thing's ready, this thing isready.
What was the final touches?

Speaker 2 (18:57):
That's a tough one because you know you need to
make sure you put a lot of timeon the motors and that's so.
What did it was?
Um, you know, we we've beenvery fortunate to have some
people that do some of ourtesting put hundreds and
hundreds of hours on our motorand when they sent it back and
it was still running just likeit did when it left, that was a
really good indicator that wewere, we were getting close.
Um, you know, we obviouslywanted to refine it, we wanted

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to make it look a little nicer.
We got to that point and, um,fortunately, you know, with your
guys help, with havoc's help,we've been able to get it to
where it is and then out thereto the people to see it and
talking about that refining,we've had a lot of questions
come in about the fin.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
You know what?
Why did it take that shape?
What is that about the sharkfin.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Yeah, you want to look sweet, you want to hit that
form.
Kevin, that's what everybodyknows on a previous podcast.
It's a shark fin motor guys.
I mean it's just super coolright it looks good.
No, there's no way I'll takethe shark fin out, so I so it's
actually you know, it's actuallygot a functionality to it.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
So, um, in order to drive our cooling system, we
have a pump on the motor.
The pump's driven by thecamshaft, and what that shark
fin does is it protects it, itcovers it and you know, we, we
didn't want to just have a bumpsticking up on the motor, we
wanted something that's a littleplayer yeah, we wanted to stand
out a little bit.

Speaker 3 (20:14):
You know, I was kind of worried about the shark fin.

Speaker 1 (20:18):
I think it's cool, it's better than like a pimple
setting on the top.
Put erasure straps on the feet.
Yeah, I think it paint thatlime green or something with
green.
That's right.
Put erasure stripes on the fin.

Speaker 3 (20:24):
I think it needs to be high to green Some shark
teeth.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
You know like on them old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
No, at first that's the first thing we noticed was
like man, I think it's got ashark fin on it.
But now when you see one.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
I got to tell you this story he's got a fin, me
and my dad are at a ramp and wepull up and there's this old man
there.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
It's an amazing machine.

Speaker 4 (20:46):
And he walks over to me.
He said hey, sonny, does thatfin on top make your motor a lot
faster?
And walked off.
He never told him any different, nothing.
Your dad was confused.
My dad's just dying laughing,you know, because we knew.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
But I just doctored my.
He thought it was a regularTatsu.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Yeah he thought it was a Tatsu and I put a fin on
it.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
He said that shark fin makes you motor faster, son,
he just walks off.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
You say yes, it does man, he will never understand.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
No, no, he's still making fun of me.
It's aerodynamic.
Yeah, yeah, he sees you.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
He's going down the river all the time.
He's like there's a short thing.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Did they put them on cars?
People put them on.
You know, you got Cal inductionhoods.
Yeah, that's my Cal inductionfin.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
Yeah, nice, I like it .

Speaker 3 (21:28):
What I like about the Freedom, though, is the
opportunity in salt water in theGulf in Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
That's huge.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
The limits of this motor is just crazy.
Yeah, get the water out, gamechanger.
I think the rest of the motoris going to have to adapt to
your technology.
So far it's proven itself inthe timber, but I think the

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saltwater guys is going to reapthe benefit of this.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
for sure, I can definitely see this like a marsh
takeover.

Speaker 3 (22:01):
It definitely leads by an example of what you guys
are doing.
That's awesome.
I think it's going to changethe industry and I think it's
going to benefit everybody.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Think about all the camps and stuff people down
there use.
And you should wash your motorout if it's got salt in it each
time.
But what if you pull up to yourcamp and you're at camp and
you're just in the salt waterfor?

Speaker 3 (22:20):
a week.
What about the marsh guys thatgo freshwater to salt water?

Speaker 1 (22:23):
I mean, it's a game changer.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Nobody likes hooking up to the Clean it up.
You don't go home and hook upto the water hose.
Nobody likes to do that.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Nobody's even seen the havoc and the freedom marsh
runner deal that we're going todo in Louisiana.
I mean it's coming.
So I mean it's going to changeeverything.
You know, a lot of people geton the internet.
They argue with me because theythey're obviously mud motor
people, but those are also theguys that aren't thinking
outside of the box.
Yeah, you know, and if youdon't think outside the box,

(22:52):
guys, you can't develop yourself, you can't develop whatever
you're doing right.
So I mean you gotta thinkoutside the box here and I just
think it's gonna change the game, it's gonna change the industry
.
You guys have done a hell of ajob doing that and I and we're
just grateful to be part of that.

Speaker 4 (23:04):
So don't think it's a one-way street well, and look
at the r&d criticism's cheap,yeah, r&d costs money that them
guys.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
Talking shit on the internet just fires me up, it
makes me want to be better.

Speaker 6 (23:15):
It's cheap talking shit we're gonna keep rolling,
you know?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
yeah, but I like it, I like both.
I like being motivated that way.
You know, that's what wakes meup in the morning.
I wake up, I get beat up,whatever, and I get back up.

Speaker 6 (23:27):
But everybody else is just too embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Hey, everybody's just too embarrassed, even to you
know, I got some people thatknows that freedom is badass but
won't say it's badass becauseit looks so different.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
And you got people, too, that are scared to say that
as well they're scared to sayit because they don't want to go
against the surface drivemotors, but they know it's
badass but it's so weird.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
There's not enough of them out there.
They don't want to feel like.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
It's like a Ford.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
Ranger cult.
They're scared to leave thecult.
It's way better than a FordRanger.
No, I'm talking about the guysthat are so skeptical about
Nothing will ever beat my FordRanger I know people that love
their freedom but won't come outpublicly.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
We know people that it's kind of like you're trying
to find out who voted for JoeBiden.

Speaker 7 (24:10):
You can't find them Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (24:14):
But there had to be somebody.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Daniel, you can't make this shit up.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
But like you would think you could find one person
that voted for him.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
The motor looks so weird they can't even say they
like it publicly, and it getsthe job done.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Well remember when the haters were hating on the
hoses.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
What did you guys do?
We pulled off the trailer, ohyeah.
Yanked it by the hoses oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah, so you know, it's always easy to judge
something from the internet.
On the picture I shot a 158 andeverybody killed me for it.
Jesus Christ is 158 inches, Ipromise you.
Why would I lie?

Speaker 5 (24:52):
You know, it's something else too, man, the,
the, the hate comments.
They can roll in all they want.
My phone blows up so much withfolks saying when do you want to
race?
You want to put your moneywhere your mouth is, man, bring
it on down here Now, listen,there will be a time that we get
there.
But I want people to know toowhere we're stemming from right.
We're folks who love what we do.
We saw that there was theproblem in the industry, that

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there was an opportunity forsomething to be done better, to
be done faster, to be done, moreefficient.
And we said you know what?
Why not?
Why not take this thing whereit can go?
And what happens is we can getstronger with the people that we
surround ourselves with, wherey'all come in and with the
expertise that y'all have.
Because we're all coming fromthe place of knowing God.
We love what we do.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Yeah, we just want to build something different.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
We want to build something different People are
going to hate you for it.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
It's amazing too, because they're so wrong.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
But nothing gets better if you don't push the
limits.
You gotta push the limits, andthat's what we're doing, and
that's what we're doing with youguys, right, we're trying to
make something better for thepeople, for 80% of the people
out there that this is going tobe perfect for.

Speaker 3 (25:54):
And I really go back.
You go back to the 80-20.
It's a perfect deal.
Everyone I've talked to lovestheir surface drive when they
gotta have it.
It's only 20% of the time.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
The other 80% of the time it is miserable,
uncomfortable, loud, hard todrive.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
You guys, listen to me out there and watch this
video.
We're going to get tons of hatemail off of it and bring it on.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
They're our biggest supporters because they're
selling more of the.
Freedom Rigs than we are.
Our haters are selling them.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Thank you guys.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
We're just trying to piss you off.
100 of all surface drive.
Guys only use their surfacedrive to the full potential.
Trims in the time and thefreedoms will give you 80 of
their freedom.

Speaker 4 (26:38):
I know in the summertime, that that one rig
that they have and they'rerunning their surface drives up
and down the river at thesandbar.
They're not happy about it.
And I tell you who is evenunhappy.
More unhappy about it is thewife.
The wife doesn't like to ridesandbars in the surface drive in
the summertime.
She doesn't like that?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
No, she don't.
There's too many people.
You could talk to 10 peoplethat have surface drive motors
and they go complaining aboutnoise.
The tiller handle and that'stheir biggest problem and you
guys won't fix it.

Speaker 6 (27:07):
And speed and speed and speed.

Speaker 3 (27:08):
You're right about that, and freedom has fixed all
that and you guys hating on it.
It just don't make no sense.
Of course, cnn don't make nosense either, right?

Speaker 6 (27:16):
If it wasn't for the haters, though, we wouldn't have
changed nothing and we wouldn'tbe to where we are today.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
No it is the guys that complain about the noise,
complain about the tiller torque, complain about all that stuff,
and I'm not saying my motor'sbad.
20% of you guys love it,whatever you want to do with it,
take it, buy it, whatever weeven sell them if you want them,
it doesn't matter.
But for 20% of you guys we'regoing to make you happy's the

(27:42):
point that we're making right.
You guys are trying to improvethe situation.
Exactly, you know that's exactlyit, and you guys are doing a
wonderful job thinking outsidethe box of cooling fans, way
better than a box seven yearsago, eight years ago.
We were part of that eightyears ago and we knew it wasn't
going to work right, yep.

Speaker 4 (28:02):
So I mean it was too much.
It was too much, it was toomuch, it was just too much Took
up too much volume of the boatit was, it was just.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
It was functional.
We even had a dealer thatbought two of them.
We had a dealer that bought twoof them as well, you know, but
he's a freedom fan.

Speaker 4 (28:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
He's Now.
Yeah, you know it took time.
My first Havoc boat wasn't verygood.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
You don't know what you don't know until you know.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
You don't know you don't know that, you don't know
it.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
You hit that one on the head.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Nice, come on that was deep.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Hey, come on, but anyways, I watched Shockley use
the motor.
He used the motor all year, Imean these guys, and I'm not
easy on shit either, I meanthese guys are tough on motors,
you know, and a lot of guys saylike, hey, you know, the motor
ain't going to last here.
Last what?
What are you talking about?
We got five motors down here inSouth Arkansas.
We got motors up in NorthArkansas, right, we got motors

(28:57):
everywhere.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
South Louisiana.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
South Louisiana.
We're watching these people,we're talking to them every day.
Yeah, we're getting massiveamount of hours.
If we run into a problem,freedom's right on phone call
away.
They're helping, making changesif needed.
Yeah, you know.
So it's been a goodrelationship.

Speaker 7 (29:17):
I kind of want to touch on that a little bit.
Jeremiah, you deal with some ofthe warranty stuff, and from my
dealers I've heard nothing butgreat things.
You want to touch on thewarranty side of things for a
minute.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Yeah, absolutely, that's a good point.
I mean, you know a lot ofpeople worried about the
warranty.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
Yeah, for sure, and I'm glad you're hearing great
things, because where we aretoday is we just want to make
sure that everybody you knowgets what they need, and to know
that, hey, you know, that's,it's a blessing that they have
one of our motors.
The consumers are buying intowhat we're doing here, so the
least we could do is help outwhere we can.
Our warranty is a five-yearwarranty.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
We cover pretty much top down the whole motor as it
sits.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
That's incredible.
That's amazing.

Speaker 5 (29:57):
Usually what Tahatsu will offer as a warranty.
We take that upon ourselves.
We realize that we, you know,we've come from a spot of a lot
of R&D.
There's a lot of testing,there's things that we're
finding that we know we need totweak.
Well, again, least we can do isbe of support to our
dealerships, to our individualcustomers, to the folks who have
called in and said hey, man,I'm really in a bind.

(30:18):
Who am I to say to go through awhole process right now?
Right, so we just want to bethere for the people and let
them know that, hey, weappreciate you having one of our
products running it with aHavoc.
Least we can do is help outwhere we can.
That's awesome, for sure.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
And I think that's awesome because you know that's
how Havoc bleeds it is.
Yeah, you know we take care ofcustomers.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
I just got back from Chicago going to pick up a
customer's boat.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, yeah, and we did make a mistake.
The paint was a little light ina couple places.
The trailer was completelywrong.

Speaker 6 (30:53):
I'm just saying we went and picked it up.
Yeah, yeah, we did.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
I was just going to tell you what was wrong with the
boat.
We had one mistake on the boat.
We had the wrong trailer in theboat.
The dealer put the wrongtrailer in the boat and that's a
little disappointing that itactually got that far through
the system.
But you know, it doesn't matter.
If you make a mistake is howyou deal with a mistake, and
that's that's what I love aboutyou guys.
You guys are working with us.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Even some of the crazy shit I say you guys are
saying okay, let's do it, we'lltry it, just like them taking
care of it.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
It's the same thing, you do Same.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
Thing.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
Havoc does for its customers.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
You've got to believe that these customers are buying
this motor right?
It looks so wild and sodifferent.
You've got to help thatcustomer.

Speaker 4 (31:38):
Yeah, exactly, you've got to make that customer feel
comfortable.
Back it up.
How many boats have youreplaced that?
You shouldn't have A lot ofboats, why A bunch?
Why do you do that?

Speaker 3 (31:48):
Because I either prove a point that you're wrong
eventually you're going torealize you're wrong and I'll
take that burden or I'm going tosell more boats.
He's willing to gamble theburden.
Well, most of the time, thepeople that I take care of turn
out to be my best friends.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
And because there's a moment in their lives that they
realize that they were wrong.
So I just roll the dice on thatand it's always treating me
right.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I mean, how many times have they called you later
, like years after, and beenlike.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
All of my closest friends were my customers that I
treated right and eventuallyMichael Shockley is one of my.
All of my closest friends weremy customers as I treated right
and they eventually MichaelShockley is one of them.
Brian Jensen has always been acustomer of mine.
My closest friends are myclosest friends in my circle is
the people that took care ofwhen they were in a bind.

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
So you have to realize that you know, even when
you sell a motor, you take careof customers and they'll take
care of you, and that's kind ofhow we built our company off of,
and we don't have sales reps,we just build a good product, we
stand behind it and weassociate with good people.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
And.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Freedom is a good company and it's going to change
the industry.
I'm super freaking excitedabout it.
If you can tell.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Oh, it's going to be.
Oh, it's going to be, it'sgoing to change it.
There's no doubt it's going tochange the industry.
Oh, it is, it is.

Speaker 4 (33:11):
And true.
I mean some of the best peoplein the world own Havocs and now
some of the best people in theworld own Freedoms on Hav I can
say there's probably two orthree things in my whole career,
since I was 18 years old, thatstarted building boats.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
There's moments in my career that was life changing.
Brian was one of them.
You know, as business wiseRight, you know, moving into a
bigger facility, growing ourmarket share was one of them,
and I really believe freedom iswhat makes freedom so special,
because I know it's going tochange the industry, yeah, and

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that we're a part of that andwe're grateful for that.
So I mean, it's just which wayyou look at it, you know.
I mean I think it's going togive you a lot of benefits in
the woods, but I also think it'sgoing to change the industry,
and that is what I enjoy aboutthe freedom.
You know you're making adifference.
You're not just building a boatmaking money, You're not just

(34:08):
taking somebody's money.
You know that's what I hate.
I hate people that start acompany just to take someone's
money.
You know you see a product.
You build one that looks likeit.
What are you changing?
What are you doing?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
You're not changing anything.
You're not doing anything.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
You're just copying people because you're lazy, see,
but what you're doing is tryingto redesign something.
Which that makes a difference,right?
Yep, it makes a difference.
When you lay down at night, itdoes.
It makes a difference when aperson is buying the product.
That's what you're supposed todo.
People that go out and copypeople.
They're not making a difference.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Well, you're not making anything great.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
You're not making a difference, you're making your
ego feel good, you're notchanging the industry, you're
not changing shit, you're justcopying the leaders, not
innovative, right.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
And that's where two products come together Right.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
The freedom is copied after nobody.

Speaker 3 (34:55):
And you're not going to be nothing.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
The havoc is copied after nobody.
Yep products on the screen thatare mated together.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
That's exactly it and that's worth something it is.
It's worth something, yeah, andthat's where your sales coming
from.

Speaker 5 (35:09):
It's a lot of pride.
We take a lot of pride in whatwe do and we hope that other
folks, you know, can feel thatpride, can see that right and
know that we're trying to pushthe limits here, man, and we're,
it's going to work.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Because you believe in it and it's awesome.
It's an awesome product and I'msuper excited for you guys.
I'm glad we finally gottogether again seven eight years
apart, yeah super excited and Iwas laying in bed.
It was really funny.
I was laying in bed, couldn'tsleep, probably worried about
something, and I was strollingthrough TikTok or something and
I seen that Havoc boat, thatgreen logo on the side and I

(35:45):
seen that Freedom on the back ofit.
I was like holy shit he sent itto me it was like two o'clock
in the morning.
I said holy dang, holy shit,guys get a plane ticket what's
Tim doing now?
Here we go and I'm like why isit important to you?
To me, it wasn't the technologyor the freedom.
What drew me to thisopportunity was nothing about

(36:09):
the freedom.
It was on the Havoc.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
No.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
Listen it was the Havoc.
It was the Havoc because thiscompany is trying to build
something and they still use myproduct to develop it.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
To me, that was respect.
Well, if you want to be thebest, you've got to use the best
.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
That was respect that was respect for me, though I
was like I want to be a part ofyour creation because you gave
me the opportunity to help you.
That's what I've seen on thatvideo.
There was no way in hell Iwasn't coming to New York as
soon as he seen that video?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
like Brian said, he sent a text at 2am and by like
4.30 we was already booking.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
I woke up.
I seen that video.
I woke my wife up.
She was like what the hell doyou want we not doing nothing?
I said, look, I ain't trying toget none all.
I want to do is look at thisvideo Trying to change the world
.
I can get that tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
Just look at this video.
He tried to get it after thevideo.
I know he did.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
I said we got to celebrate right now.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
Hey, after we got the plane tickets he's like so.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Cinch her up.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
We might as well their freedom got your attention
, but I wanted to finish it.

Speaker 4 (37:25):
I remember we're sitting at the airport and I'm
like now where are they at?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
I don't even know where they are.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
We go and I'm looking on my phone and I'm like, hey,
they're close to niagara falls,maybe we can hit it too yeah,
then we end up seeing jimmy, Idon't know if we told y'all this
after we got back or not.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
But so when we left your place, we ran niagara fall.
We had to hurry up and catchour planes.
We could only spend like fiveminutes at niagara falls, so we
basically went there.
Just say, we went there and, uh, while we were there, I'm
looking at this guy and I'm likeman, he looks familiar.
I was thinking, man, maybe he'sa customer or something that I
just can't exactly remember hisname and he did something with

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his hands or something.
I'm like dude, I think that'sJimmy from the.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Yellowstone.
He did say that.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
I'm like there ain't no way, that's Jimmy.
I like Jimmy.
No shit, Jimmy from theYellowstone.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
And then when it's kind of creeping for a minute
you're just like we're juststaring at him.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Do we say something?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
That's Jimmy, and then we end up taking a picture
with them, and then there's 10people there and nobody was
excited about us.
Yeah, what the hell kidswalking around weren't even
pumped.
I'm like I don't even know whoyou're in the presence of.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
We already knew about the Kevin Costner ordeal before
you know yeah, that was prettycool though it was cool.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
It was cool.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
I don't know if we ever told you all that, but
y'all's plant was cool, though Ineed to tell the story about
the plant me walking in theplant.

Speaker 7 (38:42):
I'm always looking at numbers and I'm always like I
walk in there playing.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
I'm like why are y'all building freedoms?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I remember when you asked that question, I'm like
why are?

Speaker 3 (38:51):
you building freedoms , Like.
What the hell are y'allthinking?
Why do y'all want a piece ofthis marine After?

Speaker 4 (38:56):
we saw the third robot exoskeleton like Navy SEAL
futuristic stuff.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
They're like robots fighting each other and shit.
What is going on in there?
Why are y'all wanting to buy it?
I think a lot of people don'tunderstand.
Is this a?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
Thunderdome.
Dude, I had no clue.
They built those NASAspaceships there, I just didn't
know it.

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Nobody understands.
They know Everybody sees thisFreedom Deal and it goes back to
the haters on the internet.
I keep giving them thespotlight.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
Why do they get so much credit?
I think because they piss usoff they piss me off.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
I feel like they pissed that off on the day, but
anyway these guys are like well,they tried to release this
motor seven or eight years ago.

Speaker 5 (39:35):
Yeah, we did, I'm like we're not hiding it.
It's true, you had to startsomewhere.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
They stayed with it, they stuck with it, they stuck
with it.
What have you done in your life?
You ever stuck with somethingfor eight years and finally made
it work.
You guys are hating on thisshit, but what have you done for
eight freaking years?

Speaker 4 (39:51):
You haven't done nothing.
Thousands and thousands ofdollars on the cheaper dollar.
How many people shot rockets atthe moon until we got there?
I mean like, come on man,you're judging something based
on your personal hate, whatever.

Speaker 6 (40:01):
But when?

Speaker 3 (40:02):
you walk through the Hundreds, yeah, hundreds,
hundreds.
When you walk through theirmanufacturer man, you see these
cages, you see all these damnrobots.
Right, what the hell are theythinking?
My brain was going like crazy.
I'm trying to process.
Is this a freaking?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
trap.
I was watching those arms.
It was a mental trip Like whatis this?
Is this a trap?

Speaker 2 (40:29):
And like literally walking into a place like that,
it don't matter how old, youstart asking stupid questions
like so what happened.
If you know, that arm gotlocked up with that arm arm
wrestling would it like whathappened?

Speaker 3 (40:34):
robot arm wrestling yeah, robot arm wrestling, it
was crazy and it totallysidetracked our main mission,
yeah like we went to seeoutboard these badass outboard
motors.
Right, but tip, it's not aboutthe money.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
That's the thing it's not we.
They weren't.
We weren't doing this to makemoney.
We were doing it because we sawsomething that could be done.
That's right, that could beimproved.
That's why you're doing itright and I think people miss
that.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
They don't understand that, and that's why I think
you guys are so special, becauseI've seen what you guys do.
Yeah, I mean, and and I reallybelieve havoc.
Havoc has always been whetherit was an excel boat I was
building or edge boats, whatever.
But if you really believe in aproduct, you do it because you
want to do it.
It's your passion.
The money will come, becauseall you gotta do is treat your

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customers right and yourcustomers will take care of you
if you take care of them.
That's the only opportunity youhave to make a difference in
the industry.
And and so when I walkedthrough your plan, I'm like okay
, I was like it was really.

Speaker 1 (41:29):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
I overthink 99% of my shit in life.
I overthink it.
You know I try to control theoutcome of everything, so I'm
definitely an overthinker.
But when I walked through thatplan it kind of messed me up,
because I'm thinking okay, thisis not financial, maybe it's a
tax runoff, maybe it's this.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Are they?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
flexing on industry?
Are they trying to take overthe whole outward industry?
What the hell are we walkinginto?

Speaker 2 (41:58):
here.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
I need to understand what we're doing and what we're
going to walk into.
Are these guys trying tocapitalize on the whole industry
?
Are they trying to take outJapan?

Speaker 2 (42:05):
What are they doing?

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Tim thought about that way more than anyone at
Freedom.
I saw him over there.
He was over there at one pointin the corner and he was just
like Are you okay?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
I'm just trying to process this.
I'm like how do I approach thisangle?
What the hell are these guysdoing?
I couldn't figure it out.
I didn't give a shit about thefreedom.
These guys are nuts.
What are they doing, like?
What are they doing this?
I got to know this before I cango to the next step.
You know what I'm saying.
So, after using the motor,seeing the motor, you know I

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still don't understand whyyou're doing it.
I see why.
I think it's cool.
I think it's cool.
I know that you build badassrobots and that the freedom is
probably, just maybe, a hobby ofyours.
I don't know.
But I know that you're puttingall your effort to this and
that's amazing because yourresources is unmatched and I
think a lot of people don't justreally don't understand that as
a businessman, I can, I can Iunderstand that it's like well,

(43:04):
is the product gonna get better?
Oh yeah, hell, yeah, it's gonnaget better robots.

Speaker 4 (43:08):
Look at your boats.
I mean, yeah, does failuresmake you better?
It does make you better.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Yep, it changes and it does make you better, but if
you care about, if you careabout the customer yep,
shockingly right, yep.
If you don't care about yourcustomer, if you're just
building a product for money,you don't care about your
customer.
If you're just building aproduct for money, you don't
care about your customer.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
If you care about your customer, you will improve
your product.

Speaker 6 (43:29):
Yep, and that's a fact.
Somebody complains aboutsomething and we think it can be
changed.
You change it.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
There's so many boat companies out there just doing
it for the wrong reason.
You know who you are.
I don't want to of yourcustomers.
You're not going to getanywhere in life.
It's going to be a short ride.
You enjoy it Because I've beenthere and you have to learn to
take care of your customers, andthat's what's so awesome about
Freedom.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
Yeah, and I mean a little more insight into you
know, obviously we build our.
At least a lot of us come froma company that builds custom
automation.
Right, and that's where thefounders came from, that's where
I came from, but it's not everyday that you get to reinvent
something and make it better,and so that's the drive, that's
the excitement, that's whatfires me up.

(44:11):
Every day I come out there andI'm like I get to work on
something that isn't being doneby anyone else.
It's rarer and rarer every day.

Speaker 3 (44:19):
It's like reinventing the toilet to make it better.
I mean, how are you going to?

Speaker 1 (44:23):
do that.
I don't know, but I'll try.
I'm going to keep trying tokeep changing it until it's
better.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
People use it every day, man, it's awesome to
develop something that changesthe industry.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
It's better than making money.
It is, it's better than makingmoney.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
Yep, money is just a side effect of it.
It's the benefit that you madea difference that nobody else
could and it will make exactlythis drives you to be better it

Speaker 4 (44:46):
is.
It's exciting.
You know, this is somethingthat you know we've really
talked about and we've not hitit a lot on this podcast.
But when you really look, youdive just like b scott said you,
you dive into just duck hunting.
You know the declining numbers.
Pressure, pressure, pressure.
There's a big push right now inArkansas and everywhere this
low-impact hunting, and this isone of those tools.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
This is a low-impact right here.
This will help duck hunting.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
This is a low-impact and that's a key to this and
that's one thing we don't talk alot about.
But I really like this.
This doesn't tear up stuff,it's quiet, it's easy to drive.
You stuff.
It's quiet, it's easy to drive,you can idle around.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
I mean you can idle down the river and the ducks are
just float along.
I mean it's low impact and thispodcast is not about selling a
product because it's alreadysold.
I mean, we've already sold it.
This podcast is basically aboutexcitement, developing new
technology, and I just thinkit's a couple of guys that enjoy
this industry.
We're not trying to sell thismachine, that's already proven

(45:46):
itself, but you know, it'sexciting, of course, you guys
can tell I'm excited.
I know Daniel and David can tellI'm excited, you know, because
I love building stuff thatchanges people's lives.
You know, yeah, and I lovebuilding haters.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
Yeah, and I'll tell you what, tim I mean.
We saw it in you.
I remember talking to you yearsago, but also, just you know,
in the last year or so.
Just that drive right?

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Yeah, I mean, you can see that I want to win.
Man, anyone that knows youknows that, yeah, I want to win,
I want to crush.
That's why we love this partyeah, and you know, yeah, it's
just it's just ending when I laydown in bed at night, I always
tell myself I failed, and I wakeup every morning.
I try to get better every day.

Speaker 7 (46:28):
Every day, he's got something new.
We every day.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
When I lay my head on my pillow, I say you know I
pray and said I'm sorry I failed, I will do better tomorrow.
And you know it's like, it's a,it's a disease, it's it's
something that that mind won'tshut off, will it?
It won't you know, sometimes yougot to drink yourself to sleep.
But you know, it's just themind that won't stop turning and

(46:52):
it's like you just want to bebetter and better, and better
and better.
It's addictive, it's a drugthat you just can't get enough
of.
And the drive, you know, that'swhy I'm enjoying this freedom
thing, because I just want totake over the whole industry.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
And you know, like you said earlier, you know it's
a product of itself.
It is, it really is it's likeit's genuine, it's like and it
can actually help everything andit's going to change the game
forever, and I'm just excitedabout this product.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
I'm happy for you guys, you know, because I mean,
aren't you Brian?
Oh, dude, I mean I'm happy foryou guys and we've been there.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
Awesome dudes, Awesome.
Yeah, we appreciate y'all.
You know you showed us aroundyour place.
We ate some awesome food.
I mean, it's just and thefreedom.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Yeah, I'm super stoked for you guys, I'm happy
for you guys.
I think you're doing awonderful thing and I think,
maybe you know, your product'sgoing to develop over the next
few years.
It's going to get better andbetter and better.

Speaker 6 (47:56):
People are going to adapt.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
People are going to adapt and it's amazing.
I'm grateful to be part of theopportunity and I'm happy for
you guys because y'all aremaking a difference and to me,
in our world, this is our world.
To us, you know, that's theonly thing that matters in our
world, that we control, and it'sjust cool, man.
Y'all doing some good work andI think people are finally
starting to see it.
We're getting a lot of goodfeedback.

(48:18):
Jake's rocking it.
You know our dealers are happy.
Brian, you used the motor allyear and it was performing well.
Now you talk to some mud boatguys, those hard-driven mud boat
guys that just don't know.
But you know it goes back tothe 8020.
You know, shockley tried it.
You know we were in a fewissues.
We got it fixed, but no bigdeal.

Speaker 6 (48:39):
You're going to have issues, that's right, I don't
care what it is.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
Yeah, especially going through some of the stuff
we go through, that's right,that's right, and we did put the
motors through the most extremeshit we could possibly bring in
it's accelerated testing.
Yeah, yeah, it's accelerated.
Hey, that's right B.

Speaker 7 (48:51):
Scott.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
It's accelerated testing.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
Accelerated testing.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
We know.

Speaker 2 (49:04):
But that's how we make it better.

Speaker 3 (49:05):
That's how you make it better and what's awesome is
okay.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
They got a good product.
The R&D doesn't stop.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
No it doesn't stop.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
They're evolving and changing stuff as we speak, new
horsepower.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (49:16):
I mean, we're talking about the 25, but I mean, who
knows, there's 91, 9115 comingEven props.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
We do have a functional 90 horse, but it's
not fully functional.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
We're just doing some testing on it.
Do we need to cut that Cut?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Hey guys, daniel.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
David can we edit that out?
I wouldn't edit it.
It's coming, these big motorswill change the game guys.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Saltwater no more.

Speaker 6 (49:44):
We're excited Center console in the marsh with a
90-horse freedom.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
What about some dual motors?
Y'all want some dual motors,some T-tops.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
I want some dual motors.

Speaker 3 (49:56):
Dual motors.
I mean it's coming.
I mean I'm telling you guys, ifyou guys ain't checked out the
Freedom, go check it out.
It's amazing, it's a good pieceof machinery and it will change
the industry.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
I'm on this dual thing.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
The dual motors?
Yeah, can we do that?
Anything dual is good,anything's doable.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
You can do it just like you do with the scooter.
We should think about that.
Of course we can do it.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
We should think about that.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Oh, we can do it for sure, might be something to come
, huh.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
Maybe like dual 60s.
Y'all stay tuned.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
We got to get past the 450, 500 motors that's
already sold, yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 (50:31):
Baby steps.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
We do got some production issues we're dealing
with here.

Speaker 4 (50:36):
Does it crawl before you or run before you?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
I think it was skip before you can walk.
I don't think we ever crawl.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Who crawls?

Speaker 6 (50:45):
See, I'm talking about baby steps.
He'll not be able to sleeptonight.
He'll wake up tomorrow and belike man.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Let's build that center console.

Speaker 6 (50:52):
We just got to go ahead and get it ready.
I know, we talk about the old60s but what about trips?

Speaker 3 (50:59):
That's a good thinking right there.
If nobody crawls, who the hellcrawls?

Speaker 1 (51:03):
He'd be like all right guys, I was thinking about
it last night.
The transom has to be this wide.
How?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
many can we hold before it sinks?
Go ahead and lay that out forme.

Speaker 3 (51:11):
Scott, I know we should go fishing.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
We want to go fishing , but I think we should do a
triple, but then again we don'tlike odd numbers.

Speaker 5 (51:21):
Yeah, I was a little on four.
I was on four at that point.

Speaker 4 (51:24):
I got quadded up 60s or 90s, quad 90s.
The acceleration would beamazing.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
The whole shot would be good.
You know the top end don'tchange.

Speaker 4 (51:33):
No, it's crazy, isn't that wild?
It's wild.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
You'd think you'd have a little bit of efficiency,
you internet to actually putthe ads, those numbers.
The other thing is they got no.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
I can run 45 with with one motor, I should run 90.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Yeah, I can run 90, which doesn't work I talked to a
country said look, I got.
I got two 150s on.
There's 300 horsepower.
I should go faster, just hangon a minute no, it does not work
that way.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
You, if you cut the lower unit off, one maybe, but
but you know like the thing is,though People don't know what
they don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
I know, but the problem is they argue with
somebody that knows.
That's the problem.
That is true.
That's the big disconnect insociety.
They argue with people thatthey don't know, or maybe you
were just an opportunity forthem to learn something.
No, no, no, they argue.
I talked to a customer theother day that tried to convince
me I didn't know what I wasdoing and they bought the boat

(52:29):
from me.
How do you answer that?
I guess you just argue I didn'teven know what to tell the
customer.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
You just say good luck.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
Let us know.
If you have any more questions,then they get mad at you.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
You just pray, you, we have some customers that call
up there and they're mad at you, right, because they're both
not doing what they want to do,send them out on a ride with
Brian.
That's how you shut them up.
I tell them what they need todo.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Right, I do test rides two days a week.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Nobody's going to test ride with you.
Can I talk?
I tell these people, everybodyon the internet is going to say
you've been talking the wholetime.
But anyways, I tell customers.
I tell customers like, if youdo this, do this, do this, do
this, you'll make your boat run.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Then they spend the next 30 minutes arguing with you
, Because that's easier A lot oftimes though it isn't because
they don't think that your wayis better, but they'll try
saying okay, well, that's asix-inch jack plate, but this
six-inch jack plate's a lotcheaper.
I want to go with this one, butthis is the problem, but it's
like oh, this jack plate don'thave what this jack plate has,
but this is the biggest problemthough, so they're trying to
like, make it down there theyargue with you for 30 minutes
right.

(53:39):
Yeah, what do I even?

Speaker 3 (53:40):
know, because your job is to please people, right?
So you say shit, I don't knowwhat to tell these people.
Then all of a sudden, they'remad at you because you're not
helping them.
I'm like I tried to help youfor 30 minutes, you didn't want
to listen to me the energy theyexpel arguing is easier than the
energy expelled changing.
I just don't think peopleunderstand that they're arguing
with people that build the boats.
Are they that arrogant Are buildthe boats?

(54:01):
Are they that arrogant?
Are they that confident inthemselves?
To prove me wrong?
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
Maybe they're trying to teach you something.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Are you messaging through Facebook or is it text
message?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
Oh, it's text messages.
I think there's differentmindsets.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
Oh, they got my number no they do we should
probably change your number, soyou deal with that problem too.
We'll put it on a t-shirt, youdeal with that problem too, with
even freedoms.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
You know, Big time, Big time you know, and it's just
like they're missing the wholepoint of the freedom thing.

Speaker 5 (54:28):
As if we didn't spend years on R&D, on testing on all
of the things that make thisthing great, as if we didn't
just do that this whole time.

Speaker 3 (54:36):
I always tell people when shit breaks, it's a damn it
piss, I'll fix it.
Yeah, I got the same emotionalfeelings.
You do too.
That shit sucks.
Yeah, and we get it too.

Speaker 4 (54:46):
What if?
What if?
What if you did this?
Well, my dad used to always sayif a frog had wings, it
wouldn't bump his belt when ithopped.
Yeah, what if you know we?

Speaker 3 (54:53):
had a guy, we had a guy.
I mean this is off the subjectbrought a boat in that's over 10
years old the rake crack right,this dude cut out his rear deck
of his boat.

Speaker 4 (55:11):
No, rear deck, no, none, zero.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
Gone.
They cut the center out.
It was an HJ side console.
That dude took his console outof the boat, cut the rear deck
out of the boat, scattered ittogether with screws and welds,
and Matt had a broke rake.

Speaker 4 (55:27):
Yeah, I mean it's your fault, right?

Speaker 3 (55:29):
You know what I'm saying?
I said, yeah, I'm going to fixyour boat for you, man, but this
is a little ridiculous.
Why are you mad at me when allthis looks like this?

Speaker 2 (55:37):
That didn't look like that when it left here.
No, it did not.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
And you know that's another point of the habit.

Speaker 1 (55:42):
You only took out structural.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
What did?

Speaker 4 (55:46):
you do for that guy.
We fixed his boat.

Speaker 3 (55:51):
And why?
Because there's no way I couldchange his mindset.
I mean, he turned the boat in.
It looked like that with thecracked rake.

Speaker 7 (55:58):
There's no way you can help that guy.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
There's probably no arguing with that guy.
There's no arguing with thatguy.
It's not like you can weld hisrake up and not just re.
He took the structure out of it.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
The guy doesn't care about where his boat looks or
his condition of his boat, he'sjust mad at me because something
cracked that affects himdirectly.
And you still fixed it.
I still fixed it, yep.

Speaker 4 (56:15):
I know, you know what's cool about Tim Guess when
he calls back and says it'scracked again, what will he do?
I mean?

Speaker 3 (56:23):
I'll fix it, but I want to tell him why it cracked.
That's when he gets mad at me.
That's when he'll come up witha reason why it's cracking.
That's the problem with thepeople.
They will tell you why itcracks, but they won't fix what
they need to fix and prevent itfrom cracking.
They'll blame you for theproblem, even though it's their

(56:44):
problem.
But you got to keep fixing theproblems, right.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
Yep, exactly, I mean same page.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Yeah, it's crazy, Like yeah, don't run, don't hit
rocks.

Speaker 2 (56:54):
I'm hesitant to give examples, but I'll give one.

Speaker 6 (56:57):
Yeah, hey, tim, we got him there.
Yeah, he's opening up.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Dude, we schemed for 30 minutes to get this story my
story is true, by the way soopening up.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Did we scheme for 30 minutes to get this story my
story is true, by the way.
Yeah, so we had a customer callus up, you know, and we always
ask for pictures when they saysomething went wrong.
Yeah, oh, he sends us a pictureand this this customer clearly
ran into something really hardand, you know, skag was broken I
think I remember.
Yeah, I think we talked yeah,there's, there was some pieces
missing and ultimately, afterafter a long conversation, he
came to the realization that hedid hit something.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Oh, we did hit something.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
You know what we did.
We did the Tim Scott thing.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
We sent him the parts we did.
Free of charge.
We said, hey, we just want youback out there on the water, you
know, because that's whatmatters to us, that's what we
made these boats for, that'swhat we made these boats for,
that's right, these motors for.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Well, he gave you an opportunity to be better.
He gave you an opportunity todo one of two things.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
And guys watching this podcast don't hate us on
this.
We're not giving out sympathycards, okay, but what you guys
do do make us better, so keep itup Doing a good job.
Yep, that's right and that'swhat makes you better.
Yep, what makes any companybetter?

Speaker 4 (58:07):
but it's hard and you taking care of that customer
like that was just as good ashim apologizing everybody he
talks to.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Everybody he talks to .
These guys hooked me up, tookcare of me.
Obviously I didn't tell themthat I hit that rock wide open
throttle.

Speaker 5 (58:21):
I didn't tell them.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
I lied to them and they still hooked me up.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
I've been doing this for 26 27 years man and that
same person that denied that orlied about their situation took
advantage of you.
That will affect him eventually.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
It will.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
You know you can't lie about something and take
advantage of somebody.
At that moment it might be okay, you might get away with it,
but it will haunt you yeah, well, he came around eventually but
it was because, after westraight up said there's no way,
that there's no way you didn'thit something.
The reason, the reason why hefessed up is because he got away

(58:59):
with it.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
He wasn't expecting it away with it yeah, okay, and
he saw that you were open withhim.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Yeah, you know, being honest, once you gave him the
benefit of doubt, doubt and yousaid, okay, we'll fix your motor
.
He said, oh shit, these aregood people.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
These are good people .

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I'm a good people.
Why am I doing this?
This is bad, this is wrong.
Okay, I'm going to fess up.
He's still going to fix myproblem.
That's what a lot of customersdo.
A lot of customers call you andthey automatically think that
you're going to screw them.

Speaker 6 (59:25):
That's the biggest problem and for everybody
watching this.

Speaker 3 (59:28):
this is the biggest problem with you people.
You think everybody's going toscrew you.
Now, this is the deal when youdon't screw them, that's when
they become your friends.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
Yes, I hope it's a whole new connection.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Everybody's out there to flip a dollar.
Some people are out there totry and make a difference.
What do you?

Speaker 1 (59:45):
think for a second that y'all got in the business
to build the Freedom Motors toscrew people.
Does that even make sense.

Speaker 6 (59:51):
I will not know, did you?

Speaker 1 (59:53):
wake up, start building boats with the goal of
screwing people Absolutely not,because who would do that?

Speaker 3 (59:58):
No, nobody does that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Who can plan for that ?
There's a couple that are doingthat now, but originally.
Yeah, but it's not me, though.
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:00:06):
Those guys are just trying to flip a dollar.
That's what I'm saying.
That's a difference.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
And here's the deal Not everybody on Earth is
perfect.
There's actually no perfectpeople on Earth.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
No, there's not, but through growth and maturity we
can learn to be better.
Yeah, that's right.
And of course we do got to makemoney to be able to partnership
up with companies like you.
I mean, obviously it costsmoney, right.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Oh yeah, On both sides.
Havoc's growth and maturitystarted years ago With your
first weld on your first boatFreedoms.
Look how many years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
A lot of it was developed through mistakes.
A lot of it was developedthrough mistakes and hardships.
Divorce, not divorces, butalmost a divorce.
My wife hated me Forever.
There were about five years ofmy marriage was absolutely shit.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
So maybe people look at Tim Scott and think man, look
at him, he's got it all.
Yeah, they think that theydon't know about a pop-up camper
, do they?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
No, they don't hear about that they don't know about
a pop-up camper, do they?
No, I don't know.
I don't hear about that.
No, I don't know about the oilfield.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
We got oil field.
We gotta bring that out.
I'm just saying I don't knowabout all the in-betweens, the
tornadoes, the so what is thesame story with y'all?
Life journey has its ups anddowns.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
Yeah, the more the more I felt, more I got pissed
off at myself, not the damnproduct, you know, getting
pissed off at yourself is whatdrives you, you know.
It's just a drive man.
Yep, and that's what I likeabout when you wake up every
morning to try and make itbetter, you know.
So it's awesome, dude.
I think that's why freedom andI'm super pumped up about this,
you know but that's why I thinkI know the freedom's gonna work

(01:01:40):
because of people that's behindthe product and that's awesome,
and a lot of people buy habitsbecause of what I've done right,
yep, and I'm super grateful forthat.
I love you guys and it's reallynice to drive down the road and
see your product down the road.
It makes you feel proud.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
Super cool.

Speaker 3 (01:01:55):
Yeah, and then you get back on Facebook and you hit
rock bottom.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
We need to get you off Facebook.
I hate fucking Facebook.
That's the gist of it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
I hate Facebook.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
I can't, do you have that limiter the gist of the day
is we've got to get him offthis.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
I hate Facebook we need to put that limiter on his
phone.

Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
I just see 10 dipshits on there and I'm like
those straight up dipshits.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
It doesn't take long to find them either.
No, they stick out like a dickon a birthday cake.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
They do it on purpose .
Let's agree, though.
They do it on purpose.
You want to draw some attention?

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
say something stupid within a thousand comments.

Speaker 1 (01:02:29):
And then you'll instantly get Tim Scott's phone
number.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
Yeah, I get pissed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
That's how you want to get in contact with.

Speaker 6 (01:02:36):
Dad, all you got to do is go on Facebook and start
talking shit.
We ought to make a t-shirt withhis phone number on it, we
should.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
I just try to please everybody you know what I'm
saying I try to please everybody, I try to make everybody happy
and it gets the best of me.

Speaker 6 (01:02:52):
I told the Arkansas Tealer guy that the other one
about caused me to get a divorce.
But we talk about Havocs comingin here that have issues and
Tim fixes them.
What about all these other boatbrands that come in and you
still fix them?

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
I know I fix all of them because I don't believe
it's a brand war.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
I don't believe it's, I don't know, brand war I don't
believe it, it's not aboutbrands, guys.
There's three other brands ofboats at Havoc right now getting
fixed.
I don't know if I can even saythat there are.
Do you know why they're heregetting fixed?

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Because they want them fixed.
I had a customer call me theother day.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
He says dude who won't fix them, the three other
boat companies.
Can I say that?

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
This is a true story.
Okay, this is a true story.
I had a guy call me want me tofix his ambush boat.
I'm like, why are you callingme?
Because the ambush don't buildboats no more.
I'm like, why are you callingme?
Because I know you can fix it.
Yeah, but you didn't pay me,but you know.
So I got a hold of Jimmy.
Jimmy's a great guy.

(01:03:47):
I've been with him talks for along, long, long time, you know.
And I called Jimmy.
Jimmy took care of the customer, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:03:54):
Jimmy's a good dude, jimmy's a good guy, jimmy is a
good guy Jimmy is a super goodguy you know.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
So I mean me and Jimmy never had a word.
We never had good guy.
We got that customer fixed,even though it was an ambush.
Somebody at this table used todrive an ambush.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
I did.
I still talk to Jimmy about itonce a week.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
We're good friends.
We are good friends.
Now he's all about Havoc.
We got you through that littlespot.
That's true, jimmy's a good guy.

Speaker 4 (01:04:26):
Again, not everybody's perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:04:27):
There's that frosted tip face.
I've seen an opportunity tomake a believer out of the
product there's an opportunityto make a believer out of the
product.
And that's what you guys aredoing against the mud-boater
market.
You're making believers, andthat's the hard part?
Yep, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
But you can do it.
And we are super excited to bea part of it and I think that
the future is going to bring alot of cool stuff and a lot of
you know game changing productsto the table for the consumers
to take advantage of and use astools.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
Yeah, oh yeah, and I mean talk to anyone that that's
driven or owns a FreedomOutboard motor.
Right, they all love them.
I mean it is, it's comfortable,it's nice yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Oh yeah, the ones that talk.
I mean, I want to have a seat.

Speaker 1 (01:05:08):
They've never.
They more likely haven't seenthem in person.

Speaker 4 (01:05:11):
Tim told me the other day that he's thinking about
getting one.

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
Yeah, I'm going to buy it, you know, but anyways,
you guys are going to make himbuy it, yeah.
Oh, jenny in there, she's toughon bills man, she writes checks
.

Speaker 1 (01:05:23):
Yeah, you ain't sliding nothing through the
table, ain't nothing slippingthrough the cracks, oh Jennifer
she's a professional.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
You can borrow it, but you ain't keeping it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
She writes checks like no, she does a good job
writing checks.

Speaker 4 (01:05:36):
So when do y'all have to fly out?
When do y'all got to go backhome?
We fly out tomorrow at 4.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Where is home?
Home is Rochester, New York.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Rochester, New York.

Speaker 3 (01:05:46):
It's not a bunch of Democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
See, that's what we thought when we were first going
up there.
I was like man, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
What did you?

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
think about Little Rock.
It's pretty cool, huh.
Yeah, I mean we didn't get tosee too much yet.
I just meant the airport.
Like the Little, it's prettycool to fly out of.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
It's convenient, it's easy.
Rochester's not bad, thoughRochester's not bad.
I'm confused.
Dc, though huh.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Yeah, you had to get off DC.
Dc was pretty wild.
Dc is pretty big.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
It's always a pain.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
That's where you see all the purple hair DC.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Charlotte.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Chicago.
That's what I was talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
It's a culture shock for us.

Speaker 7 (01:06:21):
You always know it's a big airport when they they're
shipping a mile this way andyou're like I ain't kidding you.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
When we get to Washington DC, dude, I called my
wife.
I said dude, there's sevenpurple hares in front of me.
I mean you might see one everyonce in a while around here, but
you go up there and they'reeverywhere.
Like who in the hell wants?

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
to die of a hare purple.
I can tell you.
I can tell, Once we move out ofthis county he starts culture
shocking the further away we get.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
it gets worse Once I get out of Dallas County.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
I start tripping.
He'll get nervous in LittleRock.

Speaker 7 (01:06:53):
He will.
I will he about pulled over andput me in the driver's seat
when we went a couple weeks ago.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Oh, I know I get nervous, but when I went to New
York I was nervous Until I gotaround you guys I'm like, okay,
these are good people.
Yeah, we bypass all the crazyI've actually heard people say
that, though, when we talk aboutfreedoms, they're in New York,
they don't know nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
Yeah, I mean, they say it.
These guys are normal people,but it's not New York City.

Speaker 4 (01:07:18):
That's the deal right there.
It's not the city I was thesame way I'd never been to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
New.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
New York, that's New York.

Speaker 1 (01:07:25):
City very different.
Yeah, it was all country, Iknow it was all country.
I bet y'all don't even go tothe city.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
No, it's a six hour drive from Rochester, right, so
you know, to go there and backbecomes a bit of a task couple
days in between.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
I mean, I grew up in a farmhouse, you know, 15 miles
south of Rochester and I thinkpeople need, I think that's just
.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
The whole world thinks about New York as New.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
York.

Speaker 4 (01:07:48):
City.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
It is.

Speaker 4 (01:07:50):
Even my dad.
I told him he's been to NewYork City and I'm like I'm going
to New York.
And he's like, well, how wouldyou go to New York City?
And I'm like I'm not going toNew York City, I'm just going to
New York.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
I mean, it was all country yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
It was all country.

Speaker 1 (01:08:03):
Now, if you had dropped us in New York City, I'm
sure we'd have been all kindsof fucked up.
Oh, we've been tripping.

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
I don't think you guys would have made it to our
facility.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
We've been lost.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
We'd still be there waiting for the ball to drop.

Speaker 3 (01:08:17):
When's this happen?
Three more months, I'd be likeBrian Jensen our Onyx ain't
working in New York City.

Speaker 4 (01:08:24):
Dang it.
Gps don't work here.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
But yeah, I mean I was.
You said New York.
It was kind of weird, but I waskind of excited to go with it
because I was really blown away.
I thought it was going to becities and concrete, but it was
really more country.
Yeah, oh, yeah, you know thenwe went to go eat dinner and I
was going to eat some weirdstuff.
You know it was normal.

Speaker 1 (01:08:46):
It was actually good.
We don't get out a lot, that'sfair At the airport we ate those
.
What's those hot dogs?
They're like.

Speaker 2 (01:08:54):
It's like a new hot dog Zweigels hot dogs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they have thehop opens.

Speaker 3 (01:08:58):
Now y'all, hot dogs are weird.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
They were white.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
That was weird, nobody took a picture.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
The chili was like.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
We didn't know, it was like one of those things.
But anyways, listen Before I do.

Speaker 3 (01:09:11):
I might have a picture we all get these hot
dogs right and they're loadeddown with this weird looking
chili.

Speaker 5 (01:09:15):
It's the best chili man.
It might be good, Is it hot?

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
sauce Meat hot.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
No, Meat sauce.
I don't know what it is but itdoesn.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Finer chili.
What are they called?
It's meat hot, meat hot sauce.

Speaker 3 (01:09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
It was called something.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
I was looking at my hot dog and I was thinking this
is what caused me problems onthe airplane.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
We smashed those before we got on an airplane.
Oh, did you guys get a full-ongarbage plate?

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Yeah, like garbage, yes, yes, like right before we
get on the plane.

Speaker 4 (01:09:45):
That is a staple, rochester it was probably a
little much for an airplane ride.
Oh yeah, I'm thinking mostpeople puke on this plane.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
I'm about to shit on this plane, you know what?
I'm saying this is not going tobe, good Must have been
rumbling.

Speaker 5 (01:09:59):
It does a number on you, man, but you know what we
keep going back to it, though.
I'll tell you what Hard day'sworth of work.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Let me get a garbage plate after or at 3 am garbage
plate Absolutely.
If you're up at 3 am, you'regetting a garbage plate.

Speaker 4 (01:10:10):
See, this was what 10 , 10.30 in the morning and we're
on garbage plate.
I told my wife.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
I wanted to fly up there and just eat the food.
Man, I mean I would love forher to take her up there, but
you know that damn hot dog was.

Speaker 4 (01:10:20):
We didn because we were eating them with coffee.
Hey, how bad do we?

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
laugh ourselves to death after we ate these hot
dogs, knowing we're going toshit our pants on the airplane.

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
You know this is going to be a good time, and
then we had to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
actually we're coming from all I can say is we're
landing in the Litter Rock.

Speaker 1 (01:10:40):
We're landing in the Litter Rock at the end.
We're coming down and the windsare horrible.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I mean we're coming in counter and the winds are
horrible.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
I mean we're coming in all jacked up.
Oh, we're talking about theplane and we go down the lane
and all of a sudden he just fulldumps it and just rises back up
.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
I'm about 20 seats ahead of Brian Jessup.
I hear Brian Jessup out thereyelling and hollering and shit.
Like, yeah, this is awesome.
Hey, everybody else on theplane is praying.

Speaker 7 (01:11:06):
Dude next to me, do it again, do it again, do it
again.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
I don't think it's hot.
We were going to crash thetrain.

Speaker 6 (01:11:11):
We had some turbulence.

Speaker 4 (01:11:12):
I look over and everybody's cell phones is about
right here.

Speaker 5 (01:11:14):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
Whoa, this is cool.

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
What was the best part about the whole
conversation?
The pilot gets online and hegoes hey guys, that was kind of
rough.
We didn't quite land that one.
We're going to do it again,though we're going to land this
one, guys.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
He said we're going to bring it around and try it
one more time.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
I thought that was when I started hollering.
I was like hell yeah, man, thisis cool.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
The dude next to me had his fingernails dug into the
chair.
It was so deep I'm like listen,there's only two ways.

Speaker 4 (01:11:42):
it's going to land.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Just relax.

Speaker 4 (01:11:44):
Lady sitting in front of me.
First time to ever fly.
She said I've never done thisagain.
I was crying.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
I guarantee you only three people in the whole
fucking plane that was having agood time was the three having
guys.
We were like hell yeah, we'regoing to ride this bitch out.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
I was thinking worst case scenario we come in crash,
land this thing, I'm like dude.
The news interview's fixed now.

Speaker 7 (01:12:01):
Oh, it's fixed, we're going, I'm going to kill the
dude?

Speaker 4 (01:12:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
I'm surprised one of y'all didn't raise your hands
after being like can I try that?

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
next man, I'm going to be getting that cockpit All.
I can say, is freedom.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
I was sitting in a group text message Everybody
make sure to have your hats onwhen we crash this bitch but it
was a good time, man, when Iseen the pilot though.
When I seen the pilot, I'm likehell yeah, dude, that was
awesome Him getting on thespeakerphone and saying, hey
guys, we didn't land that one,but we're going to do better the
next time.
Dude, that got me pumped up.
That dude was in his element.

(01:12:35):
He was hoping to get some badweather.
That's how boring his job is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
You know what I'm saying?
He's like finally autopilot off.
He's like some rocky shit.
He's like here we go.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
I'm about to land this damn thing and everybody's
going to be happy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:48):
He said I did this thing on GTA V man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:50):
That's right, it was an awesome flight.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
And we all get out of the airplane, right?
What if we had the Hudson Riverto land in?

Speaker 3 (01:12:57):
Oh, that would be cool too.
Yikes, Call the Havoc guys.
They probably would have made amovie.
Yeah, it would have been a coolmovie.

Speaker 7 (01:13:05):
Here are the Havoc.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
Boys.
Landing in the Hudson RiverMake a splash, but when we got
off of the plane, we got out ofthe airport and it blew our hats
off to them in our heads.
It was windy, windy, oh wow,yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:13:19):
It was kind of crazy as soon as we landed we were the
last plane to land and the lastplane that took off from there.

Speaker 4 (01:13:25):
They shut it down.
We landed.
They said 35 to 40 mile an hour, crosswind gusts, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
In the moment we were out.
That's good, that's solid yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:33):
In the moment we was having a good time, but once we
got like we calmed down and weseen the board where it's like
delay, delay, delay, delay,delay.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
We're like holy shit we landed on that 45, maybe 48
degrees off.
We was way off looking Lastsecond he's like, and just
wheels on the ground.
That's a good pilot.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
He had big glasses on and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
And we stuck it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:58):
He's like yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:59):
I learned of that thing.

Speaker 5 (01:14:01):
We're like yeah, you did.
I was like yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (01:14:07):
Somebody clip that.
Somebody clip that.

Speaker 4 (01:14:09):
I've been on a lot of airplanes but, seriously, when
you come in and you look andyou're sideways, we're sideways
and you're over the grass andhe's just.
That's my first ever go aroundwhen I lost my shit on that.
I've never had that happenbefore.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
When I lost my shit on that plane that guy next to
me was shitting his pants.
But when I got excited is whenI heard those motors catching up
the gear and we ended upthinking about that he touched
the ground.
He couldn't sell the nose manand when he punched those motors
I heard those motors I was likeI was like hell yeah, that guy
over there next to me was likefreaking out.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
I was like makes me like freaking out.
I was like dude.
You hear those motors?
I reached over, I reached overand unclipped my seat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Yeah, I'm like, I'm in this ride.
Yeah, I figured that's when youdecide you want to put a jet
motor on.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Oh man, oh man, it was awesome dude, just hear
those motors take off.

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
It was awesome, but it was only three of us having a
good time no, it soundedhorrible in the plane, like the
rest of the crowd, like womenscreaming, yeah, people praying
and crying.
And was gary not on there too?
Yeah, he was some reason, wassitting way up at the front like
gary probably wasn't having agood time gary was not having.

Speaker 3 (01:15:19):
Shit was falling on the top and shit it was freaking
.
It was a ride.

Speaker 4 (01:15:23):
When the things started coming down like the
overhead bends and craps falling.
Oh yeah, yeah, it was right, itwas a ride, dude, it's a real
deal.

Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
I only get nervous when the masses come down.
That's when I get nervous.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
I'm like, no, this is probably a little serious.
I always like to put them onand be like tower.
This is Ghost Rider.

Speaker 5 (01:15:40):
Permission to buzz the tower.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
That was an awesome flight it was what's worse
crashing on landing or crashingout of the air.
Definitely on the landing wouldbe good.
I think I'd rather crash onlanding.

Speaker 6 (01:15:52):
I don't know.
Well, you're not going to crashin the air.
I mean.
I'd crash like you, that's agood point.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
I never thought about crashing in the air.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
I'd just crash in the air like another airplane would
be bad.

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
I mean, you have a chance of surviving.
What's the chances that evenhappened if you crash from the
air?

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
I mean it has to go a long way about it, but yeah,
that's strange how that evenhappens.

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
They even put me on the spot where I had to pull
that the door yeah, I don'tthink, why would they?

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
do that.
Oh, I've done that, yeah, yeahI'm thinking it's more leg room.
You can't always recline.
Yeah, you can't recline.

Speaker 3 (01:16:27):
But my responsibility was to pull the door and help
everybody out, right?

Speaker 4 (01:16:30):
So would they tell you when to pull the door?
I don't know.
Tim Scott, pull the door.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
How does that work?
Use?

Speaker 4 (01:16:36):
your best foot Pull the door.
Pull the door.

Speaker 1 (01:16:39):
I was kind of worried , though, because I'm like guys
whoa, he's a lefty.
He gets his loosies and rightytighties mixed up.
He's a lefty, all right.
Maybe we ought to pick somebodyelse for the door.

Speaker 3 (01:16:48):
But I was thinking, if we're going to crash the
plane, then I got to open thedamn door.
There's too much going on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
That's why I was thinking y'all need to
reconsider, but you don't openthe door until you're done,
crashing, I guess, so I almostfeel like you know a safety talk
?

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
Nobody's really ever paid?

Speaker 6 (01:17:00):
I don't know.
I've never listened.
Nobody ever has.
We're crashing.
What do we do?
I already told you I wasn'tlistening.

Speaker 5 (01:17:14):
Am I going to pull out that pamphlet as we're going
down?
I'm not pulling out thepamphlet.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Line 14.
Don't open the door we'retalking about plane crashing.

Speaker 6 (01:17:22):
These guys got to get on.

Speaker 4 (01:17:24):
I think, well, I mean , we'll decide, it doesn't
happen very often Either way,it's out of their control.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
It's safer than driving a car?
Yeah, the car ride back isgoing to be more dangerous.
Yeah, just ride it out, man.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
Statistically, have a good time on the way down, you
know.

Speaker 6 (01:17:37):
Just in case.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Yeah, just in case.

Speaker 4 (01:17:42):
But I think we did get a discount on the plane
ticket by being the dooroperator, oh we.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
Are, you like, legally liable for anything,
though.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
No, they can't hold you to anything, you know what
I'm saying Like.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
I mean, if you answer yes, you can do something, and
you don't do it, what?

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
are they going to say what?
Are you knocked out?

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
Well, I saw it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
It was like $5 off your next online purchase of
water, it was just $5 off $5 offyour next online purchase,
that's a great job, because youcan't even recline your chair.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
I mean I've definitely taken those chairs
and sat there after quite a fewbeers at the bar before I got on
the plane.

Speaker 3 (01:18:12):
They still let me do it.
That's probably why I washaving a good time I've been a
couple of drinks into it.
That's right, so you?

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
can still operate the plane doors while drinking Is
that what you're saying.

Speaker 5 (01:18:23):
There's some gray areas.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
There's not a license .
Yeah, they don't ask you, haveyou been drinking, sir?
If he did, I'd say yes if hedidn't open the door.

Speaker 6 (01:18:31):
I'm sure the next person will open the door I've
never thought about this.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
This is we've brought up a lot of stuff today why
don't like the plane workers,open the doors?

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
I don't I don't know why don't they have people
sitting there?
I?

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
paid for this ticket.
Man, I ain't doing nothing tothese doors, that's what I'm
saying.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
It's a new world you just got to pay for stuff and
still do stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
Why do you have to open Might as well?
Fly the plane too, when we'reat it.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
That's what you got to do.
You got to pay people, then yougot to do it.

Speaker 6 (01:18:59):
A lot of times when you crash, you're not gone
anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
But seriously.
On a serious note, why wouldthe stewardess not open the door
?
She?

Speaker 6 (01:19:07):
might be in the front of the plane or in the back of
the plane.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
Exactly yeah, we need to get a plane person on the
podcast Really break this downfor us.
We're having a hard time.

Speaker 3 (01:19:16):
I'm sorry to bring up the door.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
Would the pilot come on and be like people by the
door?
Open the door.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
Yeah, door people.
You don't know our names.

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
Right, Right.
We didn't sign nothing.

Speaker 5 (01:19:31):
Well, I hope you guys have a good flight tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
Yeah, oh, thanks, definitely won't be thinking
about this.
We're driving the 19 hours backhome.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):
I hope you eat a chili hot dog from Arkansas,
kevin just canceled theirflights and he's like how are we
going to take the rental carhome?

Speaker 3 (01:19:40):
You know what, guys?
I think we'll go fishingtomorrow.

Speaker 5 (01:19:43):
I think we will.
You know what Well you know wemight take a Havoc Freedom and
shoot up the coast man.
Oh, there you go and we canmake it from Arkansas all the
way up to New.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
York.
Dude you could, how long wouldthat take Mississippi River to
the Great Lakes?

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
Yeah, shoot right on through.
It's like a cannonball run onthe water man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
It is the Great Lakes get rough.
I wonder how long it would takeyou where they want you to go.

Speaker 6 (01:20:12):
That's going to take a lot of beer on that trip.

Speaker 5 (01:20:13):
Yeah, but at least we're not talking about.
Okay, who's got the doors?
You just bail out the side.
No one's got the doors.
You just make a run for it, man.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Well, we had a podcast.
We definitely got sidetracked,but listen guys, don't sit by
the seats with the doors, okaydon't eat chili dogs.
What garbage, garbage plategarbage, garbage.

Speaker 7 (01:20:35):
Yeah, if you go to rochester, new york.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
You have to get a garbage plate, not on an
airplane beach guy said he hadto take a piss we are yeah,
beach guy said he had to take apiss on the plane.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
It was so bad up there he pissed all over the
place.
Dude, that's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
I took it at a word, I didn't realize he just opened
it up for us to move around thecockpit.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
You know he's like yeah, you can get up, move
around, go to the bathroomwhatever.

Speaker 1 (01:21:04):
Well, I'm like, all right, I got to go, so I get up.
Dude, I went from headbuttingthe front wall, knocked my hat
off, so I had to let go of whatI was holding on to and I'm
trying not to let my hat fall onthe toilet, and then you know,
we hit the other wall.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
I was like I feel so bad for whoever the hell comes
in here next, turbulence was notover.
It's not your fault.
It's not your fault.

Speaker 3 (01:21:24):
It was in the back of the wing, I mean tell it was in
the back of the wing.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
I mean tell Dude, I went up in the air, hit my head
on the top.
Horrible that's so funny.
Well, I think this wraps us up.
Man, we're so happy y'all guyscame.
Yeah, we had a good time withyou guys.
Appreciate it guys.
Thanks for coming.

Speaker 3 (01:21:42):
I want to say thanks to all of our customers out
there and all our potentialcustomers and thank you to Havoc
, for I mean honestly, this hasbeen a great, great trip.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
It's been really nice to get down here.
I'm sure we'll be back soon.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
Yeah, we had a good time.
You know and it's like you knowit's awesome to get two
companies together that we'renormal people have a good time.
We cut up like this on apodcast.

Speaker 6 (01:22:01):
I mean, we're just normal people building something
, that's going to make adifference, building something
with purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
I wouldn't say we're normal.
Well, we have a good time.
We have a good time.
You know, we might not act ourage most of the time.

Speaker 7 (01:22:09):
but we have a good time how functioning normal.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
I think you've got to be a little different, to build
something exceptional.
Definitely that you knowDavid's weird.
Look at the music he listens to.
I mean, he's special Talkingabout David.
Yeah, david's weird, he's got asoul to him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
You got to know, david, but that's the way he's
so good, he's so good at theweird shit they don't even know
who David is.

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Yeah, he does, he got a camera.

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
There it goes.

Speaker 3 (01:22:35):
Wave your hand.
Yeah, david is awesome man.
Hey, listen, look at him.
Long hair, he's, tall Glasses.
You know what?
I mean, he's two differentpersonalities when I first seen
them I said those are magicalpeople.
Magical, they can make shithappen.
Guys, it was like you got thedreamer, you got the guy that
says no, that ain't going towork.

Speaker 6 (01:22:57):
You know he's sitting in Deerstown with me and my
wife in Missouri for two daysand he farted the whole time we
was in Deerstown.

Speaker 4 (01:23:08):
Dang man, that's rough.

Speaker 3 (01:23:09):
Y'all didn't kill her there.
That's wrong.
You got to not give her thatshit.
It's a normal thing, they'renormal people.
They just got gifts.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Everybody's got gifts .
You got to find what that is,but they make some cool-ass
videos.

Speaker 3 (01:23:17):
It's cool shit.
They're different, they'reweird.
We like them and you know that.
For what's to come?

Speaker 4 (01:23:25):
Yeah, it's going to be a fun summer.
It's going to be a fun summer.
Just get started.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
And make sure you guys leave a like, subscribe,
hit the bell, check out thevideos.
That are Freedom guys.
It is going to change the game.
Y'all stay tuned, though.
We've got new things coming upthe 2530s big motors later, yes,
sir.

Speaker 3 (01:23:40):
And the 25.
Don't coming, guys.
It's going to be a big deal.
I think we're going to get 25within a week, start testing and
, uh guys, I'm just so excitedabout that.
We haven't decided what boatwe're going to build for the 25,
but it's coming.
Check it out.
Freedom's coming in hard, soenjoy catch on the next one.

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