April 28, 2025 • 50 mins
The Wreakin' Havoc Crew are about to embark on what might be the most ambitious challenge in recreational fishing - getting tournament-ready in just six months under the guidance of professional bass angler Tyler Stewart. This eye-opening first episode of the "Road to the Pros" series lays bare what separates weekend warriors from tournament professionals. The brutal honesty begins immediately as Tyler dissects each angler's critical weaknesses.
Follow along as this six-month crash course unfolds, documenting every frustration, breakthrough, and lesson learned on the path to competing against seasoned tournament anglers. Whether they succeed in cashing a check or not, their journey provides invaluable insights for anyone looking to elevate their fishing game.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's five o'clock and you're off the clock with B-Sky
.
Now, today we have as our guestTyler Stewart, professional
bass fisherman, and let me tellyou we got something really
exciting to announce we're goingto start a series called Road
to Pro, and what we're going tobe doing is Tyler is going to be
teaching us, guiding us,showing us how to fish, from the
fundamentals all the way to thepro techniques on how to catch
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big fish, how to catch a lot offish and how to compete in these
tournaments.
All right, so we got six monthsto get ready, whipped into
tournament shape to compete inthe Toyota Series.
So, guys, make sure you followthe Recon Havoc crew, the Off
the Cock with B Scott, onYouTube, facebook, tiktok and
Instagram.
You're going to want to staytuned because this is going to
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be the road to pro.
Now let's get into it.
The road to the pros.
All right, are y'all excitedfor that, or what?
I'm excited and a littlenervous.
So what we're doing isprofessional fisherman Tyler
Stewart is going to take usunder his wing and we have six
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months to get prepared to fishbig tournaments.
So he's getting his tournamentready and we're three average
fishermen.
Okay, we do not have theknowledge that it takes as of
now but we have the equipmentwhile some of us do partly.
We halfway there on equipmentbut with the right with the
right gear and the rightcoaching, could three normal
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guys get prepared for a protournament in six months?
That's what we're going to findout.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm a little nervous about it because I know what I
do wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah Well, you don't actually know everything you do
wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
No, I know that's what Tyler's going to tell us,
but you know it's going to befun.
It's going to be fun, you know,because some things I do I
shouldn't be fun.
It's going to be fun, you know,because some things I do I
shouldn't be doing Throwing thewrong shit.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I mean, tyler already , I already know Tyler has an
idea like what our weaknessesare, Because we've been fishing
together for you know, quitesome time now.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I mean, he knows where we struggle.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean, are you going to be prepared to rescue us and
get?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
us ready in six months.
It's's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I think you should name everybody's weakness right
now like one just real quick,yeah, just real quick, brutal,
so you gotta be honest yeah, behonest let's hear brutally
honest.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
All right, all right, so here we go day one.
All right, b scott would be aheck of a lot better fisherman
if he was even halfway preparedlike when you roll up to the
lake and your trolling motordoesn't work, you have three
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baits in your box, no map cards,like have no idea where
anything is.
Like we go to fish uh caneyyesterday and um, he's like man,
I want to learn how to fishfish offshore.
I want to find some fish.
Man, I want to learn how tofish offshore.
I want to find some fishoffshore.
I'm like cool, I'm like I'llgrab some rods and I'll come
jump in and dude, I get thereand I'm like surely he's got
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like some just typical offshorestuff.
You know, like big worms,crankbait, stuff, like that.
We pull up on the first spot.
There's like a hundred of themdown there, like they're just
ready to munch a crankbait.
I'm like b scott, you uh grab acrankbait.
I'm like all right, he pulled.
He pulls the rod out and we'resitting in like 25 foot and he
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pulls out like a bandit 200medium type of crankbait that
goes like eight foot I'm right.
well, surely he's got like somedrop shot stuff.
I'm like, all right, give me adrop shot, Go through his bait,
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no hooks.
The drop shot weights he's gotare like one-sixteenth or
something, super tiny.
Like the wind was blowing andhad no worms for a drop shot.
And then I was like, oh my gosh.
Like I was like, all right,let's, we're gonna leave this
lake.
We're gonna run to a tacklestore, we're gonna regroup.
And we did.
We got b scott some tackleputting his boat.
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He got a hundred thousanddollars set up boat but no, no
tackle in it I was.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I showed up, I had the essentials, all right.
We've been bed fishing, youknow what I mean, so I got all
the stuff to be hitting the bedyou're gonna give us an
explanation why.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Why?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
yeah, I'm not ready I'm I'm learning as I go.
Yeah, obviously so I'm gettingthe equipment as we go.
Now I have some tackles yeah,I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You order seven six rod now yes, yes, that cranking
rod was not the mood dude oh, hewas cranking yesterday with a
6-2 medium like a eight to onereel, probably 25 pound big game
with like 20 feet of line on itoh my god, it's been bed
fishing for real.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, hey, listen, I got well, I got
my pole set up guys.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I got a pole for 35 foot out, 25 foot out and 45
foot out.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You know what I mean.
I pick up the pole.
It hits the distance you got alittle flipping around.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So moving to him, because y'all been talking a lot
of shit about me so let's moveover to him.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, so what's my issues?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I'd say Tim's issue is identifying the right species
of fish.
All right is identifying theright species of fish, and then
you know, sitting on thoseunidentified fish all day it's
way too long Well you know, Itend to agree with you.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I tend to agree with you.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know, I remember the first day we went to Caney
and I seen Daryl and Tim outthere live scoping and I had
already been out there.
You know, I remember the firstday we went to Caney and I seen
Daryl and Tim out there livescoping, and I'd already been
out there, you know.
So I kind of knew like wherethe fish were and what was going
on, and there was like aginormous school of gar on that
area of the lake that Tim andDaryl sat on for like three
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hours casting.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, how do you know ?
I mean, that's stuff we need toknow how do you know there's a
gar versus a?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I mean, don't get me wrong, you can tell pretty well
just based off the shape and howthey're swimming, but most of
it is like reaction to a lure.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know, like gar and stuff, they're not going to
exert the same energy that abass does.
Now you can still catch gar, orwhatever, I've been happy to
catch any gar Some days yeah.
It just all depends, like thetime of the year and how they're
set up.
A lot of that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You know, yesterday you rode with me and you showed
me a lot of stuff on side anddown.
I mean it's really crazy.
It's a lot to it for sure.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I mean before LiveScope.
I spent every day of summerjust staring at my screens you
know, down and side.
I fully depended on that so I'vespent a lot of time.
You know graphing and doingthat stuff.
You know summertime offshorefishing.
You know now it's a lotdifferent ballgame with
LiveScope.
You don't have to go find thathard spot or that.
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You know creek swing.
You can kind of troll aroundand catch random roamers, you
know, if you want to, but Idon't know it just takes time
and like success and confidence.
You know to be able to do it.
So you roll up on 10 schools ofcrappie and you don't catch a
bass out of them.
You know it's like I hate.
You know this sucks I hate.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
What am I doing wrong ?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
you know what I mean.
But then you roll over thereyou know a school of bass and
you see them set up and you kindof understand why they're there
and you go, you know run thatpattern or you know all over the
lake and then you kind of starthitting a few places with fish.
It's like a light bulb goes off.
You're like, okay, this ismakes sense.
Like some of the stuff wefished yesterday.
You noticed it like some ofthose were high spots on the
side of the channel yeah youknow you could go run every high
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spot on the side of the channeland you might.
There might not be fish onevery one of them, but there's a
high chance that you'll runinto some other groups set up
somewhere.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I believe that's my biggest problem is I get hung up
on fish.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know, and it might not be the right fish
apparently, but you know it iswhat it is.
That's what we need to learn.
You know it's a lot harder thanyou think it is.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
But you'll always end up with a big fish for the day.
Yeah, I will say that.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, no, he will hunt a fish down.
He might spend all day on onefish, but at some point he will
catch that fish and it'll be abig fish.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I caught that fish.
I caught that fish Friday wefished.
I got stuck on the fish.
There was three good fish onthe point and B Scott was
already ahead of me.
He caught some small fish, madea bag.
I was already behind and I wasgetting pissed off.
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I was throwing shit.
I couldn't get a fish to biteand I had these three fish on
this point and I already knew Iwasted so much time I had to
catch these three fish.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I finally caught one of them, but it was too late,
too late.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It's like you have to give sometimes, like sometimes
you see big fish, but they'renot doing.
It was too late, too late.
It's like it's like it's likeyou have to give sometimes, like
sometimes you like you see bigfish, but they're not doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
you're gonna have to just do something different well
too, like, uh, you know a lotof it's timing related you know,
you saw, we hit some of thoseplaces yesterday.
Like that one spot we pulled upand we didn't get a bite.
And then we went back later andwe caught three or four off of
it you know a lot of it's timing.
So just depending on how they'reset up and a lot of the timing
depends on just like, uh, youknow where the bait's at some a
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lot of times current, um,there's just so many variables
um, I think the biggest thing isjust not getting too um hung up
on.
You know one deal, you know, Imean there's yeah, there are
scenarios where you grindsomething out, you know one spot
and you, you know, catch oneevery now and again and it ends
up working.
But there's more times than not, like if you pull up on a
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school and they don't fire rightaway, like roll out.
Yeah, If, if you keep throwingbaits through them, it's just
educating them.
You know what I mean.
And making it's going to makeit harder to catch them when you
do leave and come back like ifI roll up and they don't buy it
in the first five ten minutes, Iwill leave and come back and do
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the same thing again.
Give it five, just hit it later.
Yeah, yeah, just, you know,keep it in the milk run, you
know, depending on what you'rewanting to do?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
no, I get it.
I think time management too,like looking at it like in a
tournament standpoint, I knowwhat we do is we pretty much
fish the whole day.
That'd be the tournament.
But like when there's like timecrunch and you have to make
weigh-in, you got to roll andyou got to be consistently, you
know, on active fish to evenhave a chance of winning yeah I
mean, dude, you got to makedecisions yeah and that's like
(10:15):
where the stress comes from well, that's 90 of the issue is like
or not the issue, but the youknow the.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
The challenge is like making the right decision.
The next tournament I go topickwick.
There's gonna be probably 20 30schools out on the ledge.
You know all these schools aregonna have probably 30 to 50
bass in them.
There's gonna be out of 30 40schools.
There's gonna be 100 peoplethat know about them out of 150
people in the tournament.
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So a lot's gonna a lot ofvariables that go into that
tournament is like all right, amI gonna get a good boat number?
And then, if I do get a goodboat number, like which school
do you go to like which you knowlike, because you could run to
the wrong one and the wrong timeand they not fire and the other
school that you could havestarted on.
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Somebody roll up there and catch20 pounds off of it, and then
you could leave that school andsomebody roll in right behind
you and catch 20 pounds off theschool that you just didn't get
a bite in.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
So like timing and decision-making, like all that
stuff is so important this timeof the year, especially, you
know, when they're off the bank,so mainly just you know,
covering a lot of water andtrying to uh run into them is
what I, you know, try to do yeahand I'm not very good at like
that aspect of fishing is likesearching and looking for
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schools, like I've always, just,you know, done the typical
fishing roll around and withlive scope, I just roll around,
look for randoms, yeah, yeah, Idon't actually have like a game
plan that I'm looking for solike, but your demiki rig it,
that's pretty weak too yeah, no,I'm super weak there, like I.
I can probably count on onehand how many fish I've caught
with the deminkey rig.
Well, you know why?
Because you don't do it.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
No, that's not it, I never know this is going.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I want to know why too.
I want to know all right so thefirst day.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I want to know why too.
I want to know why too.
All right, so the first day B,scott wanted to go to Mickey
Reagan.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
He calls me and he says hey man, I knew this was
going.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Hey man.
He says hey man, I need you totie a leader for me.
I need you to come tie a floorcarpet leader for me.
I want to tie the knot.
I said, okay, that's cool.
I was like, have you called any?
He was like, man, I broke agiant off, but now they won't.
I can't even get them to lookat it.
And I was like, oh, that'sweird.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So anyways.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I roll up to the ramp B.
Scott's sitting there waitingon me at the ramp to tie his
leader on Like a little kid.
It's like time I paid on dad.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I was waiting there I was waiting there I was like I
can't get back to it until heretires.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I want to have him go through my boat and steal all
the stuff I don't need out of it.
We got a lot to learn, but it'sgoing to be fun.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
But what is Daryl's weaknesses?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh, I see, I haven't been in the boat with Daryl
enough to really know hisweakness.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, you do fish with us a lot.
I would say, just from theoutside, looking in, um the doc
talk, maybe like people sayingyou need to go over here, you
need to go over there, you needto go over there.
You know what I mean.
Maybe, more or less, just goout there and do your own thing
yeah, yeah, maybe, yeah I don'tknow, that's just.
I'm not saying that's 100% true, but maybe you know what I mean
.
I know every time me and Darylgo fish somewhere and we catch a
big one.
When I come back he's sittingthere.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's a good rule of thumb to go off of you know it
worked for us.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well, I mean, he's not going to have that when he
fishes pros, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well, I mean technically, technically, I
guess you could get right behindwhoever?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
caught them the first day and follow them to where
they go.
I guess do people do that inthe pros a lot, I do.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I do, you see that I don't ever see it.
No, I mean, can you?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
get us lined out in six months, seven months.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's gonna be tough I mean, we can catch big fish,
but we can only catch big fishon certain times.
Here's the deal.
It's like you mean all aroundeverybody's gonna like.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Everybody at some point has like the skills to uh
catch them like you guys allhave the skills to catch big
fish.
What it boils down to is likeall right, blast off seven
o'clock in the morning.
You got this ginormous schoolthat you're excited to go to.
Your boat number 100 out of 150.
You only got one good spot.
You roll up to it and there'salready three boats sitting
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there.
It's like how do you, how doyou make that?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
you know adjustment, how do you do it?
There you just it's uh, shit onthe bank yeah I mean dude, it's
just like one of the.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's one of those deals where you know it's like
we're doing what you're good atyou got to make decisions on the
fly and you got to treat everyday like a practice day and I
get stuck A lot of times.
I get stuck doing like tryingto duplicate practice too much
than you know, just going tolearn you know fishing, the
conditions, I have zeroconfidence in some of that shit
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we got to do.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean, that's the problem zero confidence in
some of that shit we gotta do.
Yeah, I mean, that's theproblem.
I think one thing we majorstruggle at is like if we're not
seeing fish in like the areawe're looking, we have a
tendency of just looking harderin the same technique.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Like just looking and looking and looking, instead of
just scanning and trying adifferent approach so if you
told me, if I was shaking it onthe bank all day, it would just
absolutely kill me.
But I would do it.
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And Darryl will do that.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Darryl will do it If he's not seeing fish the way
we're seeing fish.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
But he catches them doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
He will move, he does , He'll switch up and do
different things and you knowhe's successful doing that and
we just struggle I know me andyou struggle at just doing that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
What we need to do for you guys is to take your
perspective off.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
And make y'all go fish a day without perspective.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You're right.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean you're right, because even at White Oak there
were some beds out there onperspective, but there was a lot
of other ways to catch them too.
Oh yeah, you know what I?
mean, I caught a bunch of themjust throwing.
You know damiki, not a damiki,a nico, just on random.
You know roamers and uh,there's a shad spawn going on.
You know there's.
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There's a lot of different waysto catch them and like, uh, you
kind of want to get on top ofthat.
Like the, the bed deal is goingaway right now like it's yeah,
we're at like the very tail endof it and you want to be,
instead of being on the tail endof something, you want to be at
the beginning of the next thing.
It's like what we did yesterdayat the at darbon, like those
fish that we're catching.
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They just got out there, theyhadn't been beat up yet.
They weren't biting super goodyesterday.
But um, typically when you finda school that just got out
ain't been beat up, like they'llbite, every single one of them
in the school bite.
And that's kind of whathappened at first when me and b
scott put up on that one school.
Oh, yeah, it's on fire until wegot too close to them and you
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know all that.
B scott lost his crankbait inthe middle and he had 25 foot of
line out there tangled up inthe trolling motor.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I mean it just was one of those spot lock wouldn't
work.
Oh my god, bad deal.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But I mean it's it like I mean I've been doing it
professionally now for, uh,eight years and I'm still
learning.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like this is a game that you'dnever know everything and
there's so many differenttechniques and so many people
look at things differently soyou can always learn something.
Like there's so many differenttechniques and so many people
look at things differently, soyou can always learn something.
Like there's guys out therewhen they look at a lake, they
see something that I don't see.
You know what I mean.
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Or I look at something and likesomething sticks out to me that
don't stick out to them.
So it's just you kind of got tojust, yeah, like it helps for
someone to show you it helps tofish with a bunch of different
people because you see, like howyou know, like if I went with
daryl like I don't throw a shakyhead, hardly at all.
Like I would like to go fishwith daryl just to get
confidence in the shaky head youknow what I mean.
Like obviously that's somethingthat you got a lot of
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confidence in.
You catch a lot of fish on.
You caught a 10 pounder on onelast week.
I mean I don't throw a shakyhead.
It's just not something I do um, but I mean we can.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It's a method that could work in certain situations
we can all still learn stufffrom each other.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I get it, I get it I think I've learned more than
anybody like I don't know, I gota lot more.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, like I don't know if it happened or not, but
you know Tim did claim he caughtone out of a brush pile on
guitar ball yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I didn't see it was on the edge of the rush pile.
Was it a real?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
he's acting kind of weird about it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I did not see it, but I did.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I've had live before that's why we're interrogating
you but I didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
But I know where he was sitting.
I highly doubt he caught athere was dots down there.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I don't know what it was, but did you catch one?
Yeah, I did catch one.
I did catch one.
It was 12 inches, 13 inches, Idon't know, I didn't measure, it
wouldn't be.
No, it wasn't big.
Was it a bass?
Yeah, it was a bass.
Yeah, it was a bass.
I mean, I didn't have the bestconfidence all I was doing is
humps in the lake, you know,trying to find some fish.
But like what?
But what I'm saying the otherday?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
the other day I was at white oak and I was fishing a
brush pile yeah and I was.
I mean, I was like, oh gee,there's some biggies down there,
like I told ty, you know mycousin.
I'm like some big ones aregonna catch one and I threw a
glob bait over and they didn'tmove and I was like that's kind
of weird.
Like nothing came out of thebrush pile.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So what do you think is that a?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
shaky head down there and like I hit one on the head
and do anything, I was likemaybe they're just stagnant.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, they're just chilling or something.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
And I just flip it over the top and bring it back
and three of them come out ofthe brush pile.
I'm like, oh yeah, here we go,here we go, and one eats it.
And I get up to the boat andhe's trying to get the net
undone and when it comes up,freaking big old crappie, really
brush pile.
That's a problem for me.
I went to another.
I went to another brush pileand I was with zach.
This is the next day I was withzach and I'm like, so maybe I
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looked at it and I'm like, allright, there's, there's, that's
a big, that's a big inside,throw in there my shaky head and
literally falls in there.
I mean, just don't do.
I said the hook oh, here he is,starts and he's already starts
rolling like this.
You start doing like well, youknow, like circles, and I'm like
, oh my god, it's a freakingcatfish.
Then I see another one in myheart.
The next one is definitely abass, like that.
That's random.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So I throw in there again, hook another catfish and
I'm like I know dude so I turnedthe live scale ball up, just
y'all just went to the bank likescrew that like well, yeah, so
sorry, and and I also remembertelling you there's fish in
brush tops, so maybe, so that isone of my weaknesses for sure
is identifying fish for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Well, they will likely, very likely, not be in
the brush piles.
I'm not saying there won't beone or two in there, they will.
They don't really start hittingthe brush piles heavy till that
water temperature gets up alittle bit more.
You know, like mid to the endof May, throughout the whole
summer, like right now, the shadspawns going on and, uh, you
know, you got a lot of fish justchasing bait.
(20:47):
Well, I mean, you know, and andall right.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
So for everybody watching this thing and um,
learning, uh, what we do wrong.
But I mean there's a lot, Imean a lot of people fish lakes
that we fish, or smaller lakes.
They don't have a lot of creekchannels and stuff like that.
They got a lot of wood in them,you know, know, stumps and
brush tops, whatever.
So where do those fish go?
I mean, where do they go?
(21:10):
I mean, if the fish won't getin the brush tops, in the brush,
in the trees, whatever, wheredo they go?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I think a lot of them are just roaming around.
You know what?
I mean eating bait, like rightnow.
Like I said, with the shadspawn going on in the morning,
they're obviously pushing thatbait up as shallow as they can
like.
Up on the points.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And that only lasts.
What?
Two, three weeks.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, I mean not very long, but like I have trouble
finding them between, like let'ssay, the shad spawn's kind of
over 8 o'clock.
Well, it seems like they don'tstart showing up on the schools
until like lunchtime, so likethat time between like the shad
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spawn and when they really startgrouping up offshore, like I
can't ever find them.
So like I struggle really badfrom that, you know 8 to 11
o'clock time frame Because youcan pick a few off up shallow
still, but I don't know.
I mean it's, it's crazy likeyou can go out of those schools
on caney at daylight and none ofthem be there.
Come back three hours there'dbe a hundred of them there so.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So one thing I've noticed it's weird, especially
with daryl, is he fishes certainlakes and he knows exactly
where the fish are most of thetime.
And we started fishing withdaryl.
I mean he knew where to go andso we went fishing with you and
it was the same deal.
We went fishing a couple daysbefore that and me and b scott
didn't catch a fish and you worethem out.
(22:36):
But then when I went fishingwith you, you went to four or
five spots and they all had fish.
That's a big damn lake.
Yeah, you're sure I'm sayingthat's a big damn lake.
So I mean, it's a huge lake.
So how important it is to knowwhere the fish are every.
I mean you also said that thosefish have been there since I
was a kid.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, that's crazy well, maybe, like not those
specific ones.
You know what I mean.
Obviously, those fish go spawnand they do their deal, but
since that one spot we pulled upon, they've been grouping up
there.
That was one of the firstplaces they get offshore since.
I've been in high school.
We were catching them therewhen I was in high school with
no graphs.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It just blows my mind that that lake is so big, so
much dead water.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It's like deer.
Is it 10%?
Mind that lake is so big, somuch dead water.
It's like deer.
What is it is 10 fish.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Use 10 of the lake yeah, so it's like 90 or bass or
in 10 and we and we spend 0.1of the lake trolling around
looking for, I spend the wholetime the math ain't math and
obviously we're not gonna findthem because we don't fucking
look long enough apparently youknow what I mean, yeah I mean
dude for me, like this time ofthe year, like it does not hurt
to go, not bring a single rodwith you and just idle around
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for a full day, like I used todo it all the time.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like I mean now, I know pretty much where they get
on on caney but, but like onpickwick, like the tournament I
got next week, like I probablywon't pull a rod out of my deck
for three days, like I will idlefor three days.
And the reason I won't isbecause as soon as you stand up
on your front deck you give thatschool away, like if someone
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sees like everybody knows that,everybody knows what bass look
like in in our league, so justsay, I stand up and make a cast
in this school.
If someone's running down theriver, they're gonna white point
me every time and then they'regonna come back by at some point
all over that school andthey'll have it too there's a
lot to it in it yeah, so whenyou step into the competition
side of it, are you gonna teachus that part too?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
oh yeah, I mean you got to get us ready for not not
only just fishing, but the gameI think the the the game is
played that tournament on june14th, but the game, yeah, the
game is played, I think weshould pitch that tournament on
June 14th, which one Late theBFL Darnel Darnel, June 14th.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
That'd be a tough one , probably.
No, it won't.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You don't think why?
Why I got to hear this?
Yeah, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Why he says it'd be a tough.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
He says no, I mean it was tough like three years ago.
Do I know Let?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
me go catch them.
Have you been there in a while?
No, but I just know I'll catchthem on there.
Oh my gosh, see, that's like,that's like.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I don't know if I believe that you know what I
mean there.
Again, I don't know about that.
That sounds like you're awfullyconfident, but we'll catch them
.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Catch them.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Where about y'all take?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
One of my Wobbles didn't work.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You gotta have two Working wobbles Because you're
who are with you has to be at a.
That's.
That's something that Tyler'sgonna have to do, too, is get
our stuff lined out.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Y'all need to just give me, like a, a credit card
and then A tackle warehouse andjust let me Just order
everything Y'all need.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, we probably.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Need to do that, linda hook, that I mean.
Here's a complete restart here.
Okay, we're restarting yourboat.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So, Tyler, what's the goal here that we are going to
try to say Toyota?
I think?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
the best thing for you guys to do going forward is,
you know, it wouldn't hurt tojump in a BFL or so and even
like this year, like, maybe,like in the series, like maybe
we jump in like a couple localtournaments or something, just
to get your feet wet and kind ofsee how that you know what
that's like.
And then, uh, you know thetoyota series, like it's
obviously anybody can jump inthe toyota, but it's still a
(26:19):
pretty big tournament, I meanwe're still talking.
You know 2500 entry fee, youknow big prize money and like
there's not just random guysjumping in these, like these are
hammers you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Or if you do the opens you like tyler fish but we
just have to uh what you gottaget with it, you know qualify
for the classics well, the goodthing about the, the toyotas
Speaker 3 (26:37):
yeah, uh, the opens is good too.
Don't get me wrong how.
I mean, I have nothing againstthe opens but the toyotas.
It seems like they go to thesame three or four lakes every
year.
So like, instead of having togo fish like the tom bigby river
, that freaking garhole theyfished last week, you're gonna
fish rayburn, toledo and theneither grand lake or texoma.
You know all you know for thatsouthern division, or I think
(26:59):
it's the south, I think that'sthe southeastern division, I
don't know.
I'm sure if that's southeasternor southwestern.
Is it southwestern?
yeah, right, yeah yeah, so, um,you know, with that being said,
the opens wouldn't be a bad ideaeither, but I think you guys
who's nervous?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
um, you know I have nothing to, I have nothing to
lose.
You know, I feel like I'mcompletely at the bottom of the
totem pole when it comes.
So really it's like I havenothing, but your mustache is
killing me.
I have nothing but going upfrom here.
You know what I mean.
Like if I was to get in atournament right now and get
last place, like well, that'swhat I deserve.
You know what I mean, becauseI'm not good enough yet.
(27:38):
Obviously I'm just starting.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
So obviously I'm just starting.
So if I got last place, like ifI caught a fish, I'm like hell
yeah, like we in here.
You know what I mean.
I'll tell you what's funny tome.
It's like y'all do not want tostart at the grassroots systems
at all and just go fish like aweekend club tournament.
Y'all want to go straight fromnothing.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
All right, that's how I feel, like I have a better
chance to, because, like thepros, it's like a random light,
you know the grass return, likethose people are, like there's
local hammers, you know likethose are tryhards, those are
sweaties.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
There's nothing fishing is you and caney like
there's no chance of me doingthat there's no point in me even
trying.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You got home field advantage, dude, like I'm out
boats.
You know, we always fullthrottle like pro type uh, let's
build it, let's get it going.
Yeah, that didn't work, let'sdo another one, let's do another
one.
But uh, we are definitely high,high pace, I guess.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah um, we just want to do it.
I think it'd be a lot of fun,it'd be a cool experience.
We'll all get to go and stay.
I mean, can?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
you make three normal fishermen good, good enough
that's that's kind of whatthat's.
That's kind of what we'relooking for here.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Dude, people are out there in aluminum boats.
You know what I mean.
Do you like a?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
20-foot or a 21?
What is your preference?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I like a 20.
I mean to me a 21 is going toride better and be more
comfortable like Tim's boat.
But I like the combination ofspeed and comfort.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You know what I mean, like not more one or the other,
and I feel like a 20 to 20 anda half is like ideal for that.
Yeah, I thought I was learningthat.
Okay, it feels like it is.
See, mine's a foot and a halfbigger.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah yeah, tim's boat feels huge compared to mine,
yeah, but uh, honestly, anythingover foot you could fish any of
these lakes, fine, I mean, ifit gets too brutal out there,
they'll cancel the tournament.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, Wind-wise and wave-wise you know?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, if I put a 250 on my boat, it's going to go 55
miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, dude, you're for.
No, why You're going to dosomething?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Load it down, you're going gonna do something.
Load it down, you're gonna dosomething yeah, we got to do
something we got to get ready.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Not only do we got to get our equipment ready.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I think you can get rid of half your equipment.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Well, would you argue would anybody here argue that
maybe he has a little bit toomuch tackle?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
yes, that's what I'm saying I've probably got just as
much tackle in my boat.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I really do but I just have.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Uh, but you're utilizing more unorganized yeah,
but you're utilizing, yeah, no,no tim's has got, tim's got
I'll say this, tim's probablygot a lot of stuff that you
don't need in there, yeah, andnot a lot of stuff that you do
need yeah, so he's got the wrongshit.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'm like collecting.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Basically he's got the wrong stuff, yeah you
probably got stuff but ifthere's something you may need,
he's got that right.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
He's got that hole in the wall, like I definitely got
in there, I'm telling you color.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
You know that you just really need you know he's
got color of everything.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, he's got options.
Yeah, it's better than me.
It's like I make, I got, I gotso much sugar.
I confuse myself but, with thatbeing said, you know we do these
tournaments where we fishagainst each other like every
single day.
You know, like you've seen themwith the Bubba app, you know
we're weighing fish, loggingthem in every single day and
you've seen how much tackle Ihave Very little to none.
(30:55):
You've seen how much he has Alot.
It's like you take what youhave and you make it.
Like you make it work, likeyou're fishing with the style
you have and it's like that'sall I need.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, but when you're fishing professionally, you
need to win.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But that's very like time specific though too.
Right, if you take the spawnand perspective away your
Texasas rig tube.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's probably not going to be we're not going to
be putting 20 pounds on the deal, like you did.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, I get it most likelyright.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
so I mean, which I agree, like yeah, if I could
throw in perspective and go bedevery tournament, I would 100
because it's so effective.
Yeah, Right.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's very effective.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
That's my problem.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, we can catch big fish, but it's only in
certain times of the year.
I want to catch big fish.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
All year, all year, which I mean, even in school.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Is that possible?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I mean even in school , you're all up on, even when
they school up, though I meaneven a school you rolled up on.
Even when they school up,though I mean we do that, but
like, I mean we do catch bigfish, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
But I'll tell you what I hate.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Do we catch enough big fish to win a tournament?
Do we catch enough small fishto win a tournament?
Darryl does a good job becausehe will beat the banks up and
he'll catch those small Like.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
We may not complete a full bag, but Darryl's going to
have a bad day.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I'd rather just kick myself in the nuts if I got no
thought of that.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
But, that's the deal, though that's another thing
Tim's got to get between hishead.
It's like big fish live shallowtoo, I know.
Like at Darbon the other daywhen I had those clients.
We caught 22 pounds on a frogand three inches of water.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I know, I know, dude I got some problems here.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
You'll never see him.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You'll never see him.
I might be the hardest one tofix here, I'm the oldest.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
You know what they say.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
You're going to do it , Tim.
He's set in his ways.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
See, the difference between me and Tim is I'll get
pissed off at the live scope andmight screw it and just be like
I don't even want to deal withit and you'll go to fishing
normally.
Yeah, I'll just to make myselffish with live scope all day.
He's going to make himself fishwithout live scope.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And you're 100% right .
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I mean I won't, I'll be like you know.
Last year I was like I ain'tgoing to turn that thing on, I'm
just going fishing.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
But here's the deal, though.
Here's the good thing about it.
When I grew up fishing likereally fishing hardcore, like
when I first was in college anddoing it professionally we
didn't have a lot of scope, sowe had to like really perfect
all these other techniques andreally, you know, depend on
these other ways to catch them.
Well, with Tim, I mean, you'vebeen fishing your whole life
(33:35):
probably, but not like superserious.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
No, I guess right.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like a bunch of specific techniques that you
really depend on, like, so likefor you, like you know, it's
good because you don't have tolike me and daryl like, for
instance.
Like daryl, you've obviouslyfished a lot growing up.
If the live scope ain't working, you're gonna run to the bank.
I'm gonna run to the bank too,you know what I mean and that's
a lot of our problem because,like the guys that are kicking
(34:00):
my butt on tour right now,they're not running to the bank.
They're going to continue doingthat and they're going to make
it work.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And they do make it work.
That's right, it's.
That's one thing I don't.
That's one thing I hate aboutrunning to the bank.
It's just what you just said.
If I can't see it, I don't haveconfidence in it.
If I can honestly say that Iprobably wouldn't catch 20, 23
(34:27):
pounds of fish without a livescope, you know that's my
weakness.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
You know, I want to be able to catch a 20-pound bag
without it, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, it's like a give and a take kind of deal To
me.
It's like I it's like a, it'slike a give and a take kind of
deal.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Cause, like to me it's like I feel like you gotta
practice both those.
You get a tournament and yourscope goes out right?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I mean, I don't know well.
I mean, well, there's a lot oftournaments.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I'd be pissed too.
I'd be so pissed oh, I got likethree extra boxes in my boat.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Do what?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
there's a lot of tournaments though go to like a
florida, like uh, I mean wellsorry and drew gill.
Made it work there but neverbut drew gill's an animal but at
the same time, like there areplaces where it does not how do
you make it work?
it's not effective.
Um, I mean, I I do both, likeI'm not strictly scope or
(35:16):
strictly not scope, like I'dlike, I like to do both, like I
don't mind running to the bankand throwing a frog or throwing
a buzzbait or flipping, like Istill have a lot of confidence
in that.
I mean, that's how I grew upfishing and that's why, like my
generation and the oldergeneration I wouldn't say, are
struggling.
But you know, that's why thekids below us that didn't have
(35:40):
to figure out how to catch themlike the other ways, are
excelling.
You know what I mean?
yeah, but uh, or that's how Ifeel anyway, I mean it might not
I think so too, I mean, itmakes sense I mean, those kids
are good at fishing, though,like even you take the scope
from them.
It's like they've learned somuch with the scope they don't
even have to do it with thescope, they can do it without
the scope.
I'm not taking anything awayfrom them.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Like they are freaking good I mean that's one
thing the scope has done isteach people how to fish like
how fast you pick up information.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, I mean, that will teach you too like where
the fish live at like, yeah, alot of times I realize where
fishes live or how they behaveto your bait itself.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
When I got home last, night, you know, ashley asked
me well, how'd the fishing go?
I said damn.
I said be honest with you.
I learned a lot today and Isuck you know, and it's you know
.
It pisses me off because, like,I don't like losing nothing.
You know, I get mad at myselfbecause like, come on, dude, you
know, get this shit together.
You know, but I take everythingserious in my life, it doesn't
(36:37):
matter what it is, you know.
But I also learned that, justlike you said, all these fish
are in certain spots of thelakes, and that's what pisses me
off, Because how are you goingto find that information?
out without cheating.
I mean, now I know why peoplecheat Because it's so hard to
get on fish when you're fishingfor $100,000, man, holy crap, I
(37:00):
mean, it's a lot of pressure.
So that's what I want toexperience.
It's not saying that we have towin $100,000 man, holy crap, I
mean it's a lot of pressure, sothat's what.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
I want to experience.
Not saying that we have to win$100,000.
We're doing it just to do it,you know, because it's fun and
it would be awesome money.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
It'd be cool yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
I mean the chances.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I think we're having 1% chance, but I'm telling you
the first time we go out there.
I mean, somebody drop a comment.
I statistics here, let'sactually draw a check.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
They're going to say the lineup and we're going to be
rolling out there.
B Scott's going to be runninginto shit you know, imagine
being B Scott's co-angler.
Oh my God, he's like wait whatwe doing today.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
It's like dude, I don't fucking know.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
It's like you draw somebody that's like low-key, a
hammer, a leg, has lived therehis whole life and he goes out
there.
And you just go out theresomewhere.
He like knows there ain't nofish in the co-op.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
You're sitting there like you gotta say something.
Should I not say something?
You're like, hey man, you wantto try this spot over here but
as a boater you got to be like Idon't know.
I don't know if I want to dothat.
No, I'll probably do, trying tolet me do that.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
It's like no, we're going to fish.
Right here there's a big cropof school.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Tyler's going to have to get this lined out.
I mean, it's going to be a bigtask.
We're going to fish every daytill when we got to pay our
money or deposit, whatever.
We're just going to do it.
We're going to get serious.
So I guess what we're justgoing to do, it we're going to
get serious.
So I guess what we're going tothink about doing is we're going
to go to random lakes.
(38:26):
Tyler's going to be out there.
He's not going to be in ourboat, but he's going to coach us
.
He's going to give us a list ofstuff to look for whether it's
suspended fish, whether it's, uh, punching grass, whatever it is
but he's going to give us allsomething to do, to work on that
day, and he'll grade us andtell us what we're doing wrong,
and we're going to film thewhole thing.
Being honest to us, let us knowhey, man, what are you doing
(38:50):
here?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Why are you still sitting here?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Move your boat, get off the trolling motor, whatever
it is.
I mean, you obviously know whatI do wrong.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
besides lying to him about the fish I catch, he
didn't get their fish yesterday,but this is the deal, though.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
When you have a group , when you have a group and one
of your friends is aprofessional bass angler, all
right, this is what he does fora fucking living, you feel
obligated.
I mean you want to be the coolkid too right in your group?
I mean, good jeez man, allright.
So just try that.
Add somebody like him in yourfishing group and you see how
(39:31):
much you start lying.
Yeah, and see how fast you lieabout what you catch for fishing
.
But um, all right tim.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
But what I did?
Catch a fish yesterday.
He is convinced I didn't catcha fish.
I mean, nobody's seen it andyou've lied to him before and
where you were sitting.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I would never.
I would bet thousands ofdollars that you did not catch
one right there.
Why?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
It was a hump next to the creek, the boat lane, just
like we've been fishing everyother hump, why would you not
look there?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
I've looked at that whole lake and I've never seen
them there.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
This proves my point.
This proves my point, guys, ifyou're watching this podcast,
this absolutely proves my point.
If you want to catch more fish,you've got to figure out where
the fish are, because we went toa great big old lake yesterday
and there's fish only in fivespots.
Okay, yeah, there's a lot ofthem If you're not in one of
those five spots, good luck.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
I think we should have a tournament on that lake.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Well, me and Dad went there before, you know, like
before yesterday one day, and wedid not catch a fish.
Dude, I mean not a fish all day, we're there all day.
I would call like 40 pounds.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
No, I call it maybe 40 total, but yeah, I mean 40
total pounds.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Better than zero fish yeah, I mean, he went this way
and me and b-style said well, Iguess we'll go this way and then
you should have went that way,and yesterday we went the way
y'all went I know, dude, Iwatched you lose like an eight
pounder.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I know, dude, on the glide dude glide bait's badass.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I mean, if you guys don't fish for glide bait, you
get it out.
But you know, tyler would throwit over there and it was an
eight foot of water, nine footof water, and he's just barely
working that fish would come offthat bottom.
But you know, tyler would throwit over there and it was eight
foot of water, nine foot ofwater, and he just barely work
it and that fish would come offthat bottom.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Sucking in dude what the hell's going on.
Let's go back.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
This is crazy.
I mean, I'm ready.
Well, after the podcast, we'regoing to go fishing.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Did you hear, daryl?
He said but you can't go to anyspots.
Tyler showed you, oh fuck, thatwe're going.
I mean technically, daryl, hewas showing us how to read our
graphs, so we kind of found themtogether.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Daryl, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, there's
only five spots on Lake TestFish.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
That we've seen yesterday.
There's apparently one spotthat's got a 13-incher though.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I'm not fully convinced, but supposedly.
Well, you'll never know thetruth.
I'm never going to fess up tothat one.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I'm going to put him on the line you got to start
breaking it Throughout thiswhole series of him.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Hey, the day I win on the big stage, I'll tell you if
I caught that fish or not.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Tyler's going to have to bring a polygraph with him
when he's coaching us See who'slying.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
So, Tyler, two days ago I'll be honest with you, oh
is this more about me now?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
No, okay.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Well, I was catching fish.
Like as soon as I got there,boom, boom, boom and I was
sitting there.
I was like they're never goingto believe this, so I started
taking videos of me like winningthe fish bet.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
And I'm like shoot.
I said I don't believe it.
This guy's like bullshit.
I was like bullshit.
I was like hold on.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I knew, I already knew Because of Tim saying that
before Now I did Now.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I did, I did catch, you know, I did catch a good one
yesterday.
Well, that day we fished,that's the only fish I caught.
Now that boils back down towhat Daryl's good at, you know.
Came back, you call what?
26 pounds 22 22 pounds, yeah,and here I am sitting at four
and a half, and so that's livescope versus shaky head but I
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live scope the whole day too,and I ended up with like 15
pounds.
I don't want to hear it.
Dude, you caught five fishbehind my boat.
Bullshit, I don't know how thatdamn happened.
Following them we were.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
I were fishing.
I think we're fishing together.
I was just following them herewe go and I was just casting all
fish that I seen just followinghim and I was catching every
one of them dude.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I said what are you throwing all that?
He said, man, you got to hithim in the head.
Got to hit him in the head.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I'm like shut the fuck up is what he said.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
I'm so it's a video.
It's a dude at the golf courseand it was like when you're
fishing for fish on a live scopeand the dude tees it off and
the ball is like a hook orwhatever and he hits somebody
right in the head.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
It's quite effective.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
But anyway, that shows you my mistakes.
I mean, I was self-destructing.
That's another problem I have.
It's like when I get behind,start the shit, my brain starts
fucking up.
It's like a like a highway offuckery up there and everything
just falls apart yeah, you startgetting worse, I get mad.
Your confidence, you get upset,yeah daniel showed up, beat
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scott's boat and they're filmingeverything.
I was throwing shit, I wascussing, I was mad, you know I
just lost see.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
So when we fish, I mean I just fell off.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
See when we fish.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
I mean, I just flat out lost.
See, when we fish that's mygoal.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
I go get five fish.
I'm not behind, I have to jump.
All right.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
So when I first, when I first got, there I lost a big
one, you know, and it just gotin my head and I don't know how
Tyler deals with that in atournament.
Be worse for us once we get inthe damn big tournament, but
more pressure, I mean it, Ithink it will.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
How many more times?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
you have this year tyler uh three and a
championship do you ever regretgetting into the fishing
industry?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
no, I mean I've, I've , you know, made a bunch of
really good friends, and youknow, well, you met us and yeah,
I mean I enjoy, um, I meandon't get me wrong like the
professional fishing as a wholeis.
It's, I say, not in a supergood place right now as far as
you know financially with thesponsors and stuff, but you know
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just the relationships I'vebuilt and you know, got the
stuff I've gotten to do over thelast eight years I mean to me
is worth it.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I mean.
One reason why we want to do itis to hang out with you and
fish with you.
I think you know, know, we havea good time, you know, and I
mean everybody wants to fish.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
You know what I mean like for a living.
That's like you grow whenyou're growing up like man.
I wish I'd be a professionalbass fisherman.
Yeah, wouldn't that be awesome.
Like how many kids around theworld saying that still today?
You know there's still 14, 15,16 year old guys out there are
like one day, I want to be aprofessional bass fisherman.
Well, if you want to, youshould definitely watch this
series, because Tyler's fixingto walk us through it step by
(45:30):
step the fundamentals of findingfish, catching fish, what to
look for, what to throw.
I mean, guys, you're not goingto find more information in one
place than right here.
So he's going to get us to thepros and it's going to be a
journey.
It's going to be fun for himtoo.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Oh yeah, I'm excited about it.
Can you make this happen?
Can you do this?
I mean, I don't know With me,I'm a mess.
Darrell, you know he's good atcertain things.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
I mean, it's going to be fun seeing this play out,
and it's going to be our winningdeals too.
We're going to have good daysand bad days.
Some days we're going to bepissed off.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
I think a good goal for the group would be, to cash
a check.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
That should be the goal.
Let me tell you something, dude.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
If y'all cash one check, that's a win.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
If I cash a check, we're going to party.
That's going to be awesome.
Make it win if I, if I cancheck, we're gonna party.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
That's gonna be awesome.
Make it to day three day three,I don't care what happens?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
could you imagine?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
I'm just going fishing, I don't care what
happens.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
What is one of us actually places?
Can you could you imagine howcrazy?
Speaker 1 (46:35):
that's going to be, everybody places I mean you're
gonna scroll down theleaderboards.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Gonna be daryl tip scott, brett scott the Havoc
boys came in strong, the lastthree spots 149, 148, 147.
It's going to be fun.
I can just see Ashley right nowsitting on the couch.
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Tim's going to get the weight.
He's going to have wood goodfish, wood like seven pounders.
He's going to be like Wood fishHis stage.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
You know his speech is going to be like this man.
You know, I had the big one.
I just couldn't put the bagtogether.
I just couldn't get the otherfive.
But I'm hoping tomorrow I'llget the big one.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
How'd it look guys.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I couldn't find the fish, but I drove my boat fast,
real fast, they were biting, Igot all nervous got all shook up
.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I just couldn't put it together.
Boys, we're going to go outthere tomorrow, fish hard, put
our head down, put the trollingmotor down and just try to find
fish, you know you got topractice your speech.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
That's what you got to say.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Tom, was that good.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
No that was good I've got.
Yeah, I mean, once you get usedto not catching them, you kind
of get a pretty good speech.
You're like well what?
Speaker 4 (47:35):
I try, you know, tomorrow I'm starting to put my
shoulder more down, man.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
I'm confident tomorrow will be a better day.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
The weather it could be much worse.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
I got better layup of the lake today.
You know the end of the guyscaught them, so I'm just going
to try to go put it back so Ican get a cash check and get
ready for the next event.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
We'll see.
Look at the leaderboard,they'll tell you about.
Well, you know, I find it kindof strange that we're fishing
the same lake and you know Icame out with like 12 pounds and
you know they got like 45pounds.
So I don't, it's a little sus,I don't.
I don't think we're actually onthe same lake.
I think there's an errorsomewhere.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Um, they're looking into it thanks to the sponsor
for making this happen.
Yeah, we're gonna really keeptrying.
We're gonna try to do betternext time better give us more
money we're learning.
We're learning give us moremoney.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
We try again next week.
We're still learning, that'sright.
Well guys, y'all gotta staytuned yeah, it's gonna be fun um
, I'm excited.
I'm really just ready to justhave an open mind and learn some
new strategies and new ways tofish.
I mean I want to do it theright way and everybody wants to
win.
I mean a bunch of.
I mean right now we're losers,you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I want to win, though yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
I want to see my name up there.
I want my fucking pro card,yeah that's it I'm ready.
Get tired, make it happen, letme go fish tournament all right,
let's do it, I'm in, oh my god,what day is it?
Thursday oh fucking friday.
I was like what's we're hopingin whatever thursday night or is
close I don't know man, I leave.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I think we need to get a little practice, you know.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Well, let's do it guys.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
I think we need to fish tournament for the summer
tournament.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
I think maybe like for the last episode of the
series, like we jump in like alocal tournament.
No, I say, we don't.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
actually I say we don't fish a single local
tournament.
We just go straight into theToyota Series.
Let's just go straight into theToyota Series.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Watch your mind, Brady.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
I say we go straight into it.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, let's not fish a single tournament.
Let's go, can you play?
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Can you do.
That's good for your confidence.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Let's go straight into the Toyota Series.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
That's what you're for, Tyler.
Get us ready.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
I mean mean this is gonna be a hard task.
I mean, if it ain't gonna behard, we don't want no part of
it, we want to do the impossibleI feel like you need to just
get that a little bit of littlebit of local tournaments going.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
That's what, that's what.
Hey, that's what normal peopledo.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
We don't do that no, I say I said we don't like going
and catching five fish and nottalking to anybody.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I mean, we do catch bad fish now.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
I know you can't be on the phone.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
There's so many rules that we gotta go through.
We should go fish.
We're gonna get DQ'd probably.
Hey.
Step 1 is gonna explain therule book to us my fifth
tournament.
Okay, I actually made it withoutgetting DQ'd, but alright well,
anyway, we can talk about thisall day, but I think we need to
wrap this thing up.
I'm excited.
We're all excited.
Guys, if you want to learnabout fishing the fundamentals
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there ain't going to be moreinformation in one spot than
right here, so make sure youstay tuned.
Leave a like, subscribe, hitthe bell for notifications and
we'll catch you on the next one.
It's five o'clock and you're off the clock with B-Sky
.
Now, today we have as our guestTyler Stewart, professional
bass fisherman, and let me tellyou we got something really
exciting to announce we're goingto start a series called Road
to Pro, and what we're going tobe doing is Tyler is going to be
teaching us, guiding us,showing us how to fish, from the
fundamentals all the way to thepro techniques on how to catch
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big fish, how to catch a lot offish and how to compete in these
tournaments.
All right, so we got six monthsto get ready, whipped into
tournament shape to compete inthe Toyota Series.
So, guys, make sure you followthe Recon Havoc crew, the Off
the Cock with B Scott, onYouTube, facebook, tiktok and
Instagram.
You're going to want to staytuned because this is going to
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be the road to pro.
Now let's get into it.
The road to the pros.
All right, are y'all excitedfor that, or what?
I'm excited and a littlenervous.
So what we're doing isprofessional fisherman Tyler
Stewart is going to take usunder his wing and we have six
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months to get prepared to fishbig tournaments.
So he's getting his tournamentready and we're three average
fishermen.
Okay, we do not have theknowledge that it takes as of
now but we have the equipmentwhile some of us do partly.
We halfway there on equipmentbut with the right with the
right gear and the rightcoaching, could three normal
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guys get prepared for a protournament in six months?
That's what we're going to findout.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I'm a little nervous about it because I know what I
do wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah Well, you don't actually know everything you do
wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
No, I know that's what Tyler's going to tell us,
but you know it's going to befun.
It's going to be fun, you know,because some things I do I
shouldn't be fun.
It's going to be fun, you know,because some things I do I
shouldn't be doing Throwing thewrong shit.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
I mean, tyler already , I already know Tyler has an
idea like what our weaknessesare, Because we've been fishing
together for you know, quitesome time now.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I mean, he knows where we struggle.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean, are you going to be prepared to rescue us and
get?
Speaker 4 (02:03):
us ready in six months.
It's's gonna be a good time.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
I think you should name everybody's weakness right
now like one just real quick,yeah, just real quick, brutal,
so you gotta be honest yeah, behonest let's hear brutally
honest.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
All right, all right, so here we go day one.
All right, b scott would be aheck of a lot better fisherman
if he was even halfway preparedlike when you roll up to the
lake and your trolling motordoesn't work, you have three
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baits in your box, no map cards,like have no idea where
anything is.
Like we go to fish uh caneyyesterday and um, he's like man,
I want to learn how to fishfish offshore.
I want to find some fish.
Man, I want to learn how tofish offshore.
I want to find some fishoffshore.
I'm like cool, I'm like I'llgrab some rods and I'll come
jump in and dude, I get thereand I'm like surely he's got
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like some just typical offshorestuff.
You know, like big worms,crankbait, stuff, like that.
We pull up on the first spot.
There's like a hundred of themdown there, like they're just
ready to munch a crankbait.
I'm like b scott, you uh grab acrankbait.
I'm like all right, he pulled.
He pulls the rod out and we'resitting in like 25 foot and he
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pulls out like a bandit 200medium type of crankbait that
goes like eight foot I'm right.
well, surely he's got like somedrop shot stuff.
I'm like, all right, give me adrop shot, Go through his bait,
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no hooks.
The drop shot weights he's gotare like one-sixteenth or
something, super tiny.
Like the wind was blowing andhad no worms for a drop shot.
And then I was like, oh my gosh.
Like I was like, all right,let's, we're gonna leave this
lake.
We're gonna run to a tacklestore, we're gonna regroup.
And we did.
We got b scott some tackleputting his boat.
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He got a hundred thousanddollars set up boat but no, no
tackle in it I was.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
I showed up, I had the essentials, all right.
We've been bed fishing, youknow what I mean, so I got all
the stuff to be hitting the bedyou're gonna give us an
explanation why.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Why?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
yeah, I'm not ready I'm I'm learning as I go.
Yeah, obviously so I'm gettingthe equipment as we go.
Now I have some tackles yeah,I'm ready.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You order seven six rod now yes, yes, that cranking
rod was not the mood dude oh, hewas cranking yesterday with a
6-2 medium like a eight to onereel, probably 25 pound big game
with like 20 feet of line on itoh my god, it's been bed
fishing for real.
Speaker 4 (04:39):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, hey, listen, I got well, I got
my pole set up guys.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
I got a pole for 35 foot out, 25 foot out and 45
foot out.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
You know what I mean.
I pick up the pole.
It hits the distance you got alittle flipping around.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
So moving to him, because y'all been talking a lot
of shit about me so let's moveover to him.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah, so what's my issues?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
I'd say Tim's issue is identifying the right species
of fish.
All right is identifying theright species of fish, and then
you know, sitting on thoseunidentified fish all day it's
way too long Well you know, Itend to agree with you.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
I tend to agree with you.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
You know, I remember the first day we went to Caney
and I seen Daryl and Tim outthere live scoping and I had
already been out there.
You know, I remember the firstday we went to Caney and I seen
Daryl and Tim out there livescoping, and I'd already been
out there, you know.
So I kind of knew like wherethe fish were and what was going
on, and there was like aginormous school of gar on that
area of the lake that Tim andDaryl sat on for like three
(05:40):
hours casting.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Well, how do you know ?
I mean, that's stuff we need toknow how do you know there's a
gar versus a?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I mean, don't get me wrong, you can tell pretty well
just based off the shape and howthey're swimming, but most of
it is like reaction to a lure.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
You know, like gar and stuff, they're not going to
exert the same energy that abass does.
Now you can still catch gar, orwhatever, I've been happy to
catch any gar Some days yeah.
It just all depends, like thetime of the year and how they're
set up.
A lot of that, yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You know, yesterday you rode with me and you showed
me a lot of stuff on side anddown.
I mean it's really crazy.
It's a lot to it for sure.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I mean before LiveScope.
I spent every day of summerjust staring at my screens you
know, down and side.
I fully depended on that so I'vespent a lot of time.
You know graphing and doingthat stuff.
You know summertime offshorefishing.
You know now it's a lotdifferent ballgame with
LiveScope.
You don't have to go find thathard spot or that.
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You know creek swing.
You can kind of troll aroundand catch random roamers, you
know, if you want to, but Idon't know it just takes time
and like success and confidence.
You know to be able to do it.
So you roll up on 10 schools ofcrappie and you don't catch a
bass out of them.
You know it's like I hate.
You know this sucks I hate.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
What am I doing wrong ?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
you know what I mean.
But then you roll over thereyou know a school of bass and
you see them set up and you kindof understand why they're there
and you go, you know run thatpattern or you know all over the
lake and then you kind of starthitting a few places with fish.
It's like a light bulb goes off.
You're like, okay, this ismakes sense.
Like some of the stuff wefished yesterday.
You noticed it like some ofthose were high spots on the
side of the channel yeah youknow you could go run every high
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spot on the side of the channeland you might.
There might not be fish onevery one of them, but there's a
high chance that you'll runinto some other groups set up
somewhere.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
I believe that's my biggest problem is I get hung up
on fish.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know, and it might not be the right fish
apparently, but you know it iswhat it is.
That's what we need to learn.
You know it's a lot harder thanyou think it is.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
But you'll always end up with a big fish for the day.
Yeah, I will say that.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
Yeah, no, he will hunt a fish down.
He might spend all day on onefish, but at some point he will
catch that fish and it'll be abig fish.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I caught that fish.
I caught that fish Friday wefished.
I got stuck on the fish.
There was three good fish onthe point and B Scott was
already ahead of me.
He caught some small fish, madea bag.
I was already behind and I wasgetting pissed off.
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I was throwing shit.
I couldn't get a fish to biteand I had these three fish on
this point and I already knew Iwasted so much time I had to
catch these three fish.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I finally caught one of them, but it was too late,
too late.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
It's like you have to give sometimes, like sometimes
you see big fish, but they'renot doing.
It was too late, too late.
It's like it's like it's likeyou have to give sometimes, like
sometimes you like you see bigfish, but they're not doing it.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
you're gonna have to just do something different well
too, like, uh, you know a lotof it's timing related you know,
you saw, we hit some of thoseplaces yesterday.
Like that one spot we pulled upand we didn't get a bite.
And then we went back later andwe caught three or four off of
it you know a lot of it's timing.
So just depending on how they'reset up and a lot of the timing
depends on just like, uh, youknow where the bait's at some a
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lot of times current, um,there's just so many variables
um, I think the biggest thing isjust not getting too um hung up
on.
You know one deal, you know, Imean there's yeah, there are
scenarios where you grindsomething out, you know one spot
and you, you know, catch oneevery now and again and it ends
up working.
But there's more times than not, like if you pull up on a
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school and they don't fire rightaway, like roll out.
Yeah, If, if you keep throwingbaits through them, it's just
educating them.
You know what I mean.
And making it's going to makeit harder to catch them when you
do leave and come back like ifI roll up and they don't buy it
in the first five ten minutes, Iwill leave and come back and do
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the same thing again.
Give it five, just hit it later.
Yeah, yeah, just, you know,keep it in the milk run, you
know, depending on what you'rewanting to do?
Speaker 1 (09:55):
no, I get it.
I think time management too,like looking at it like in a
tournament standpoint, I knowwhat we do is we pretty much
fish the whole day.
That'd be the tournament.
But like when there's like timecrunch and you have to make
weigh-in, you got to roll andyou got to be consistently, you
know, on active fish to evenhave a chance of winning yeah I
mean, dude, you got to makedecisions yeah and that's like
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where the stress comes from well, that's 90 of the issue is like
or not the issue, but the youknow the.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
The challenge is like making the right decision.
The next tournament I go topickwick.
There's gonna be probably 20 30schools out on the ledge.
You know all these schools aregonna have probably 30 to 50
bass in them.
There's gonna be out of 30 40schools.
There's gonna be 100 peoplethat know about them out of 150
people in the tournament.
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So a lot's gonna a lot ofvariables that go into that
tournament is like all right, amI gonna get a good boat number?
And then, if I do get a goodboat number, like which school
do you go to like which you knowlike, because you could run to
the wrong one and the wrong timeand they not fire and the other
school that you could havestarted on.
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Somebody roll up there and catch20 pounds off of it, and then
you could leave that school andsomebody roll in right behind
you and catch 20 pounds off theschool that you just didn't get
a bite in.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
So like timing and decision-making, like all that
stuff is so important this timeof the year, especially, you
know, when they're off the bank,so mainly just you know,
covering a lot of water andtrying to uh run into them is
what I, you know, try to do yeahand I'm not very good at like
that aspect of fishing is likesearching and looking for
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schools, like I've always, just,you know, done the typical
fishing roll around and withlive scope, I just roll around,
look for randoms, yeah, yeah, Idon't actually have like a game
plan that I'm looking for solike, but your demiki rig it,
that's pretty weak too yeah, no,I'm super weak there, like I.
I can probably count on onehand how many fish I've caught
with the deminkey rig.
Well, you know why?
Because you don't do it.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
No, that's not it, I never know this is going.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I want to know why too.
I want to know all right so thefirst day.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I want to know why too.
I want to know why too.
All right, so the first day B,scott wanted to go to Mickey
Reagan.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
He calls me and he says hey man, I knew this was
going.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Hey man.
He says hey man, I need you totie a leader for me.
I need you to come tie a floorcarpet leader for me.
I want to tie the knot.
I said, okay, that's cool.
I was like, have you called any?
He was like, man, I broke agiant off, but now they won't.
I can't even get them to lookat it.
And I was like, oh, that'sweird.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
So anyways.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I roll up to the ramp B.
Scott's sitting there waitingon me at the ramp to tie his
leader on Like a little kid.
It's like time I paid on dad.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
I was waiting there I was waiting there I was like I
can't get back to it until heretires.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I want to have him go through my boat and steal all
the stuff I don't need out of it.
We got a lot to learn, but it'sgoing to be fun.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
But what is Daryl's weaknesses?
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Oh, I see, I haven't been in the boat with Daryl
enough to really know hisweakness.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, you do fish with us a lot.
I would say, just from theoutside, looking in, um the doc
talk, maybe like people sayingyou need to go over here, you
need to go over there, you needto go over there.
You know what I mean.
Maybe, more or less, just goout there and do your own thing
yeah, yeah, maybe, yeah I don'tknow, that's just.
I'm not saying that's 100% true, but maybe you know what I mean
.
I know every time me and Darylgo fish somewhere and we catch a
big one.
When I come back he's sittingthere.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
It's a good rule of thumb to go off of you know it
worked for us.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Well, I mean, he's not going to have that when he
fishes pros, you know.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well, I mean technically, technically, I
guess you could get right behindwhoever?
Speaker 1 (13:47):
caught them the first day and follow them to where
they go.
I guess do people do that inthe pros a lot, I do.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I do, you see that I don't ever see it.
No, I mean, can you?
Speaker 4 (13:54):
get us lined out in six months, seven months.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
That's gonna be tough I mean, we can catch big fish,
but we can only catch big fishon certain times.
Here's the deal.
It's like you mean all aroundeverybody's gonna like.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Everybody at some point has like the skills to uh
catch them like you guys allhave the skills to catch big
fish.
What it boils down to is likeall right, blast off seven
o'clock in the morning.
You got this ginormous schoolthat you're excited to go to.
Your boat number 100 out of 150.
You only got one good spot.
You roll up to it and there'salready three boats sitting
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there.
It's like how do you, how doyou make that?
Speaker 2 (14:32):
you know adjustment, how do you do it?
There you just it's uh, shit onthe bank yeah I mean dude, it's
just like one of the.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
It's one of those deals where you know it's like
we're doing what you're good atyou got to make decisions on the
fly and you got to treat everyday like a practice day and I
get stuck A lot of times.
I get stuck doing like tryingto duplicate practice too much
than you know, just going tolearn you know fishing, the
conditions, I have zeroconfidence in some of that shit
(15:02):
we got to do.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, I mean, that's the problem zero confidence in
some of that shit we gotta do.
Yeah, I mean, that's theproblem.
I think one thing we majorstruggle at is like if we're not
seeing fish in like the areawe're looking, we have a
tendency of just looking harderin the same technique.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Like just looking and looking and looking, instead of
just scanning and trying adifferent approach so if you
told me, if I was shaking it onthe bank all day, it would just
absolutely kill me.
But I would do it.
But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
And Darryl will do that.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
Darryl will do it If he's not seeing fish the way
we're seeing fish.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
But he catches them doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
He will move, he does , He'll switch up and do
different things and you knowhe's successful doing that and
we just struggle I know me andyou struggle at just doing that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
What we need to do for you guys is to take your
perspective off.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
And make y'all go fish a day without perspective.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
You're right.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I mean you're right, because even at White Oak there
were some beds out there onperspective, but there was a lot
of other ways to catch them too.
Oh yeah, you know what I?
mean, I caught a bunch of themjust throwing.
You know damiki, not a damiki,a nico, just on random.
You know roamers and uh,there's a shad spawn going on.
You know there's.
(16:16):
There's a lot of different waysto catch them and like, uh, you
kind of want to get on top ofthat.
Like the, the bed deal is goingaway right now like it's yeah,
we're at like the very tail endof it and you want to be,
instead of being on the tail endof something, you want to be at
the beginning of the next thing.
It's like what we did yesterdayat the at darbon, like those
fish that we're catching.
(16:36):
They just got out there, theyhadn't been beat up yet.
They weren't biting super goodyesterday.
But um, typically when you finda school that just got out
ain't been beat up, like they'llbite, every single one of them
in the school bite.
And that's kind of whathappened at first when me and b
scott put up on that one school.
Oh, yeah, it's on fire until wegot too close to them and you
(16:57):
know all that.
B scott lost his crankbait inthe middle and he had 25 foot of
line out there tangled up inthe trolling motor.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
I mean it just was one of those spot lock wouldn't
work.
Oh my god, bad deal.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
But I mean it's it like I mean I've been doing it
professionally now for, uh,eight years and I'm still
learning.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
Like this is a game that you'dnever know everything and
there's so many differenttechniques and so many people
look at things differently soyou can always learn something.
Like there's so many differenttechniques and so many people
look at things differently, soyou can always learn something.
Like there's guys out therewhen they look at a lake, they
see something that I don't see.
You know what I mean.
(17:30):
Or I look at something and likesomething sticks out to me that
don't stick out to them.
So it's just you kind of got tojust, yeah, like it helps for
someone to show you it helps tofish with a bunch of different
people because you see, like howyou know, like if I went with
daryl like I don't throw a shakyhead, hardly at all.
Like I would like to go fishwith daryl just to get
confidence in the shaky head youknow what I mean.
Like obviously that's somethingthat you got a lot of
(17:51):
confidence in.
You catch a lot of fish on.
You caught a 10 pounder on onelast week.
I mean I don't throw a shakyhead.
It's just not something I do um, but I mean we can.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It's a method that could work in certain situations
we can all still learn stufffrom each other.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I get it, I get it I think I've learned more than
anybody like I don't know, I gota lot more.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
Yeah, like I don't know if it happened or not, but
you know Tim did claim he caughtone out of a brush pile on
guitar ball yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
I didn't see it was on the edge of the rush pile.
Was it a real?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
he's acting kind of weird about it.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
I did not see it, but I did.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I've had live before that's why we're interrogating
you but I didn't see it.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
But I know where he was sitting.
I highly doubt he caught athere was dots down there.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
I don't know what it was, but did you catch one?
Yeah, I did catch one.
I did catch one.
It was 12 inches, 13 inches, Idon't know, I didn't measure, it
wouldn't be.
No, it wasn't big.
Was it a bass?
Yeah, it was a bass.
Yeah, it was a bass.
I mean, I didn't have the bestconfidence all I was doing is
humps in the lake, you know,trying to find some fish.
But like what?
But what I'm saying the otherday?
Speaker 4 (19:02):
the other day I was at white oak and I was fishing a
brush pile yeah and I was.
I mean, I was like, oh gee,there's some biggies down there,
like I told ty, you know mycousin.
I'm like some big ones aregonna catch one and I threw a
glob bait over and they didn'tmove and I was like that's kind
of weird.
Like nothing came out of thebrush pile.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
So what do you think is that a?
Speaker 4 (19:18):
shaky head down there and like I hit one on the head
and do anything, I was likemaybe they're just stagnant.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, they're just chilling or something.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
And I just flip it over the top and bring it back
and three of them come out ofthe brush pile.
I'm like, oh yeah, here we go,here we go, and one eats it.
And I get up to the boat andhe's trying to get the net
undone and when it comes up,freaking big old crappie, really
brush pile.
That's a problem for me.
I went to another.
I went to another brush pileand I was with zach.
This is the next day I was withzach and I'm like, so maybe I
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looked at it and I'm like, allright, there's, there's, that's
a big, that's a big inside,throw in there my shaky head and
literally falls in there.
I mean, just don't do.
I said the hook oh, here he is,starts and he's already starts
rolling like this.
You start doing like well, youknow, like circles, and I'm like
, oh my god, it's a freakingcatfish.
Then I see another one in myheart.
The next one is definitely abass, like that.
That's random.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
So I throw in there again, hook another catfish and
I'm like I know dude so I turnedthe live scale ball up, just
y'all just went to the bank likescrew that like well, yeah, so
sorry, and and I also remembertelling you there's fish in
brush tops, so maybe, so that isone of my weaknesses for sure
is identifying fish for sure.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Well, they will likely, very likely, not be in
the brush piles.
I'm not saying there won't beone or two in there, they will.
They don't really start hittingthe brush piles heavy till that
water temperature gets up alittle bit more.
You know, like mid to the endof May, throughout the whole
summer, like right now, the shadspawns going on and, uh, you
know, you got a lot of fish justchasing bait.
(20:47):
Well, I mean, you know, and andall right.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
So for everybody watching this thing and um,
learning, uh, what we do wrong.
But I mean there's a lot, Imean a lot of people fish lakes
that we fish, or smaller lakes.
They don't have a lot of creekchannels and stuff like that.
They got a lot of wood in them,you know, know, stumps and
brush tops, whatever.
So where do those fish go?
I mean, where do they go?
(21:10):
I mean, if the fish won't getin the brush tops, in the brush,
in the trees, whatever, wheredo they go?
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I think a lot of them are just roaming around.
You know what?
I mean eating bait, like rightnow.
Like I said, with the shadspawn going on in the morning,
they're obviously pushing thatbait up as shallow as they can
like.
Up on the points.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
And that only lasts.
What?
Two, three weeks.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Yeah, I mean not very long, but like I have trouble
finding them between, like let'ssay, the shad spawn's kind of
over 8 o'clock.
Well, it seems like they don'tstart showing up on the schools
until like lunchtime, so likethat time between like the shad
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spawn and when they really startgrouping up offshore, like I
can't ever find them.
So like I struggle really badfrom that, you know 8 to 11
o'clock time frame Because youcan pick a few off up shallow
still, but I don't know.
I mean it's, it's crazy likeyou can go out of those schools
on caney at daylight and none ofthem be there.
Come back three hours there'dbe a hundred of them there so.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
So one thing I've noticed it's weird, especially
with daryl, is he fishes certainlakes and he knows exactly
where the fish are most of thetime.
And we started fishing withdaryl.
I mean he knew where to go andso we went fishing with you and
it was the same deal.
We went fishing a couple daysbefore that and me and b scott
didn't catch a fish and you worethem out.
(22:36):
But then when I went fishingwith you, you went to four or
five spots and they all had fish.
That's a big damn lake.
Yeah, you're sure I'm sayingthat's a big damn lake.
So I mean, it's a huge lake.
So how important it is to knowwhere the fish are every.
I mean you also said that thosefish have been there since I
was a kid.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, that's crazy well, maybe, like not those
specific ones.
You know what I mean.
Obviously, those fish go spawnand they do their deal, but
since that one spot we pulled upon, they've been grouping up
there.
That was one of the firstplaces they get offshore since.
I've been in high school.
We were catching them therewhen I was in high school with
no graphs.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
It just blows my mind that that lake is so big, so
much dead water.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
It's like deer.
Is it 10%?
Mind that lake is so big, somuch dead water.
It's like deer.
What is it is 10 fish.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Use 10 of the lake yeah, so it's like 90 or bass or
in 10 and we and we spend 0.1of the lake trolling around
looking for, I spend the wholetime the math ain't math and
obviously we're not gonna findthem because we don't fucking
look long enough apparently youknow what I mean, yeah I mean
dude for me, like this time ofthe year, like it does not hurt
to go, not bring a single rodwith you and just idle around
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for a full day, like I used todo it all the time.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Like I mean now, I know pretty much where they get
on on caney but, but like onpickwick, like the tournament I
got next week, like I probablywon't pull a rod out of my deck
for three days, like I will idlefor three days.
And the reason I won't isbecause as soon as you stand up
on your front deck you give thatschool away, like if someone
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sees like everybody knows that,everybody knows what bass look
like in in our league, so justsay, I stand up and make a cast
in this school.
If someone's running down theriver, they're gonna white point
me every time and then they'regonna come back by at some point
all over that school andthey'll have it too there's a
lot to it in it yeah, so whenyou step into the competition
side of it, are you gonna teachus that part too?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
oh yeah, I mean you got to get us ready for not not
only just fishing, but the gameI think the the the game is
played that tournament on june14th, but the game, yeah, the
game is played, I think weshould pitch that tournament on
June 14th, which one Late theBFL Darnel Darnel, June 14th.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
That'd be a tough one , probably.
No, it won't.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You don't think why?
Why I got to hear this?
Yeah, let's hear it.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Why he says it'd be a tough.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
He says no, I mean it was tough like three years ago.
Do I know Let?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
me go catch them.
Have you been there in a while?
No, but I just know I'll catchthem on there.
Oh my gosh, see, that's like,that's like.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I don't know if I believe that you know what I
mean there.
Again, I don't know about that.
That sounds like you're awfullyconfident, but we'll catch them
.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Catch them.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Where about y'all take?
Speaker 4 (25:16):
One of my Wobbles didn't work.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
You gotta have two Working wobbles Because you're
who are with you has to be at a.
That's.
That's something that Tyler'sgonna have to do, too, is get
our stuff lined out.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Y'all need to just give me, like a, a credit card
and then A tackle warehouse andjust let me Just order
everything Y'all need.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
Yeah, we probably.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Need to do that, linda hook, that I mean.
Here's a complete restart here.
Okay, we're restarting yourboat.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
So, Tyler, what's the goal here that we are going to
try to say Toyota?
I think?
Speaker 3 (25:56):
the best thing for you guys to do going forward is,
you know, it wouldn't hurt tojump in a BFL or so and even
like this year, like, maybe,like in the series, like maybe
we jump in like a couple localtournaments or something, just
to get your feet wet and kind ofsee how that you know what
that's like.
And then, uh, you know thetoyota series, like it's
obviously anybody can jump inthe toyota, but it's still a
(26:19):
pretty big tournament, I meanwe're still talking.
You know 2500 entry fee, youknow big prize money and like
there's not just random guysjumping in these, like these are
hammers you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Or if you do the opens you like tyler fish but we
just have to uh what you gottaget with it, you know qualify
for the classics well, the goodthing about the, the toyotas
Speaker 3 (26:37):
yeah, uh, the opens is good too.
Don't get me wrong how.
I mean, I have nothing againstthe opens but the toyotas.
It seems like they go to thesame three or four lakes every
year.
So like, instead of having togo fish like the tom bigby river
, that freaking garhole theyfished last week, you're gonna
fish rayburn, toledo and theneither grand lake or texoma.
You know all you know for thatsouthern division, or I think
(26:59):
it's the south, I think that'sthe southeastern division, I
don't know.
I'm sure if that's southeasternor southwestern.
Is it southwestern?
yeah, right, yeah yeah, so, um,you know, with that being said,
the opens wouldn't be a bad ideaeither, but I think you guys
who's nervous?
Speaker 1 (27:17):
um, you know I have nothing to, I have nothing to
lose.
You know, I feel like I'mcompletely at the bottom of the
totem pole when it comes.
So really it's like I havenothing, but your mustache is
killing me.
I have nothing but going upfrom here.
You know what I mean.
Like if I was to get in atournament right now and get
last place, like well, that'swhat I deserve.
You know what I mean, becauseI'm not good enough yet.
(27:38):
Obviously I'm just starting.
Speaker 3 (27:48):
So obviously I'm just starting.
So if I got last place, like ifI caught a fish, I'm like hell
yeah, like we in here.
You know what I mean.
I'll tell you what's funny tome.
It's like y'all do not want tostart at the grassroots systems
at all and just go fish like aweekend club tournament.
Y'all want to go straight fromnothing.
Speaker 4 (27:56):
All right, that's how I feel, like I have a better
chance to, because, like thepros, it's like a random light,
you know the grass return, likethose people are, like there's
local hammers, you know likethose are tryhards, those are
sweaties.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
There's nothing fishing is you and caney like
there's no chance of me doingthat there's no point in me even
trying.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
You got home field advantage, dude, like I'm out
boats.
You know, we always fullthrottle like pro type uh, let's
build it, let's get it going.
Yeah, that didn't work, let'sdo another one, let's do another
one.
But uh, we are definitely high,high pace, I guess.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah um, we just want to do it.
I think it'd be a lot of fun,it'd be a cool experience.
We'll all get to go and stay.
I mean, can?
Speaker 2 (28:36):
you make three normal fishermen good, good enough
that's that's kind of whatthat's.
That's kind of what we'relooking for here.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Dude, people are out there in aluminum boats.
You know what I mean.
Do you like a?
Speaker 4 (28:47):
20-foot or a 21?
What is your preference?
Speaker 3 (28:51):
I like a 20.
I mean to me a 21 is going toride better and be more
comfortable like Tim's boat.
But I like the combination ofspeed and comfort.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
You know what I mean, like not more one or the other,
and I feel like a 20 to 20 anda half is like ideal for that.
Yeah, I thought I was learningthat.
Okay, it feels like it is.
See, mine's a foot and a halfbigger.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Yeah yeah, tim's boat feels huge compared to mine,
yeah, but uh, honestly, anythingover foot you could fish any of
these lakes, fine, I mean, ifit gets too brutal out there,
they'll cancel the tournament.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
Yeah, Wind-wise and wave-wise you know?
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Yeah, if I put a 250 on my boat, it's going to go 55
miles an hour.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
Yeah, dude, you're for.
No, why You're going to dosomething?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Load it down, you're going gonna do something.
Load it down, you're gonna dosomething yeah, we got to do
something we got to get ready.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
Not only do we got to get our equipment ready.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
I think you can get rid of half your equipment.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
Well, would you argue would anybody here argue that
maybe he has a little bit toomuch tackle?
Speaker 3 (29:53):
yes, that's what I'm saying I've probably got just as
much tackle in my boat.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
I really do but I just have.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Uh, but you're utilizing more unorganized yeah,
but you're utilizing, yeah, no,no tim's has got, tim's got
I'll say this, tim's probablygot a lot of stuff that you
don't need in there, yeah, andnot a lot of stuff that you do
need yeah, so he's got the wrongshit.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
I'm like collecting.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
Basically he's got the wrong stuff, yeah you
probably got stuff but ifthere's something you may need,
he's got that right.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
He's got that hole in the wall, like I definitely got
in there, I'm telling you color.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
You know that you just really need you know he's
got color of everything.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, he's got options.
Yeah, it's better than me.
It's like I make, I got, I gotso much sugar.
I confuse myself but, with thatbeing said, you know we do these
tournaments where we fishagainst each other like every
single day.
You know, like you've seen themwith the Bubba app, you know
we're weighing fish, loggingthem in every single day and
you've seen how much tackle Ihave Very little to none.
(30:55):
You've seen how much he has Alot.
It's like you take what youhave and you make it.
Like you make it work, likeyou're fishing with the style
you have and it's like that'sall I need.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, but when you're fishing professionally, you
need to win.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
But that's very like time specific though too.
Right, if you take the spawnand perspective away your
Texasas rig tube.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
It's probably not going to be we're not going to
be putting 20 pounds on the deal, like you did.
Right, right, right.
Yeah, I get it most likelyright.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
so I mean, which I agree, like yeah, if I could
throw in perspective and go bedevery tournament, I would 100
because it's so effective.
Yeah, Right.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
It's very effective.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
That's my problem.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Yeah, we can catch big fish, but it's only in
certain times of the year.
I want to catch big fish.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
All year, all year, which I mean, even in school.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Is that possible?
Speaker 2 (31:58):
I mean even in school , you're all up on, even when
they school up, though I meaneven a school you rolled up on.
Even when they school up,though I mean we do that, but
like, I mean we do catch bigfish, you know.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
But I'll tell you what I hate.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Do we catch enough big fish to win a tournament?
Do we catch enough small fishto win a tournament?
Darryl does a good job becausehe will beat the banks up and
he'll catch those small Like.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
We may not complete a full bag, but Darryl's going to
have a bad day.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
I'd rather just kick myself in the nuts if I got no
thought of that.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
But, that's the deal, though that's another thing
Tim's got to get between hishead.
It's like big fish live shallowtoo, I know.
Like at Darbon the other daywhen I had those clients.
We caught 22 pounds on a frogand three inches of water.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
I know, I know, dude I got some problems here.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
You'll never see him.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
You'll never see him.
I might be the hardest one tofix here, I'm the oldest.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
You know what they say.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
You're going to do it , Tim.
He's set in his ways.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
See, the difference between me and Tim is I'll get
pissed off at the live scope andmight screw it and just be like
I don't even want to deal withit and you'll go to fishing
normally.
Yeah, I'll just to make myselffish with live scope all day.
He's going to make himself fishwithout live scope.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
And you're 100% right .
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I mean I won't, I'll be like you know.
Last year I was like I ain'tgoing to turn that thing on, I'm
just going fishing.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
But here's the deal, though.
Here's the good thing about it.
When I grew up fishing likereally fishing hardcore, like
when I first was in college anddoing it professionally we
didn't have a lot of scope, sowe had to like really perfect
all these other techniques andreally, you know, depend on
these other ways to catch them.
Well, with Tim, I mean, you'vebeen fishing your whole life
(33:35):
probably, but not like superserious.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
No, I guess right.
Speaker 3 (33:39):
Like a bunch of specific techniques that you
really depend on, like, so likefor you, like you know, it's
good because you don't have tolike me and daryl like, for
instance.
Like daryl, you've obviouslyfished a lot growing up.
If the live scope ain't working, you're gonna run to the bank.
I'm gonna run to the bank too,you know what I mean and that's
a lot of our problem because,like the guys that are kicking
(34:00):
my butt on tour right now,they're not running to the bank.
They're going to continue doingthat and they're going to make
it work.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
And they do make it work.
That's right, it's.
That's one thing I don't.
That's one thing I hate aboutrunning to the bank.
It's just what you just said.
If I can't see it, I don't haveconfidence in it.
If I can honestly say that Iprobably wouldn't catch 20, 23
(34:27):
pounds of fish without a livescope, you know that's my
weakness.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
You know, I want to be able to catch a 20-pound bag
without it, you know.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, it's like a give and a take kind of deal To
me.
It's like I it's like a, it'slike a give and a take kind of
deal.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Cause, like to me it's like I feel like you gotta
practice both those.
You get a tournament and yourscope goes out right?
Speaker 1 (34:45):
I mean, I don't know well.
I mean, well, there's a lot oftournaments.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
I'd be pissed too.
I'd be so pissed oh, I got likethree extra boxes in my boat.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Do what?
Speaker 3 (34:56):
there's a lot of tournaments though go to like a
florida, like uh, I mean wellsorry and drew gill.
Made it work there but neverbut drew gill's an animal but at
the same time, like there areplaces where it does not how do
you make it work?
it's not effective.
Um, I mean, I I do both, likeI'm not strictly scope or
(35:16):
strictly not scope, like I'dlike, I like to do both, like I
don't mind running to the bankand throwing a frog or throwing
a buzzbait or flipping, like Istill have a lot of confidence
in that.
I mean, that's how I grew upfishing and that's why, like my
generation and the oldergeneration I wouldn't say, are
struggling.
But you know, that's why thekids below us that didn't have
(35:40):
to figure out how to catch themlike the other ways, are
excelling.
You know what I mean?
yeah, but uh, or that's how Ifeel anyway, I mean it might not
I think so too, I mean, itmakes sense I mean, those kids
are good at fishing, though,like even you take the scope
from them.
It's like they've learned somuch with the scope they don't
even have to do it with thescope, they can do it without
the scope.
I'm not taking anything awayfrom them.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
Like they are freaking good I mean that's one
thing the scope has done isteach people how to fish like
how fast you pick up information.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
Yeah, I mean, that will teach you too like where
the fish live at like, yeah, alot of times I realize where
fishes live or how they behaveto your bait itself.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
When I got home last, night, you know, ashley asked
me well, how'd the fishing go?
I said damn.
I said be honest with you.
I learned a lot today and Isuck you know, and it's you know
.
It pisses me off because, like,I don't like losing nothing.
You know, I get mad at myselfbecause like, come on, dude, you
know, get this shit together.
You know, but I take everythingserious in my life, it doesn't
(36:37):
matter what it is, you know.
But I also learned that, justlike you said, all these fish
are in certain spots of thelakes, and that's what pisses me
off, Because how are you goingto find that information?
out without cheating.
I mean, now I know why peoplecheat Because it's so hard to
get on fish when you're fishingfor $100,000, man, holy crap, I
(37:00):
mean, it's a lot of pressure.
So that's what I want toexperience.
It's not saying that we have towin $100,000 man, holy crap, I
mean it's a lot of pressure, sothat's what.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
I want to experience.
Not saying that we have to win$100,000.
We're doing it just to do it,you know, because it's fun and
it would be awesome money.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
It'd be cool yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
I mean the chances.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
I think we're having 1% chance, but I'm telling you
the first time we go out there.
I mean, somebody drop a comment.
I statistics here, let'sactually draw a check.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
They're going to say the lineup and we're going to be
rolling out there.
B Scott's going to be runninginto shit you know, imagine
being B Scott's co-angler.
Oh my God, he's like wait whatwe doing today.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
It's like dude, I don't fucking know.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
It's like you draw somebody that's like low-key, a
hammer, a leg, has lived therehis whole life and he goes out
there.
And you just go out theresomewhere.
He like knows there ain't nofish in the co-op.
Speaker 4 (37:49):
You're sitting there like you gotta say something.
Should I not say something?
You're like, hey man, you wantto try this spot over here but
as a boater you got to be like Idon't know.
I don't know if I want to dothat.
No, I'll probably do, trying tolet me do that.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
It's like no, we're going to fish.
Right here there's a big cropof school.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Tyler's going to have to get this lined out.
I mean, it's going to be a bigtask.
We're going to fish every daytill when we got to pay our
money or deposit, whatever.
We're just going to do it.
We're going to get serious.
So I guess what we're justgoing to do, it we're going to
get serious.
So I guess what we're going tothink about doing is we're going
to go to random lakes.
(38:26):
Tyler's going to be out there.
He's not going to be in ourboat, but he's going to coach us
.
He's going to give us a list ofstuff to look for whether it's
suspended fish, whether it's, uh, punching grass, whatever it is
but he's going to give us allsomething to do, to work on that
day, and he'll grade us andtell us what we're doing wrong,
and we're going to film thewhole thing.
Being honest to us, let us knowhey, man, what are you doing
(38:50):
here?
Speaker 1 (38:50):
Why are you still sitting here?
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Move your boat, get off the trolling motor, whatever
it is.
I mean, you obviously know whatI do wrong.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
besides lying to him about the fish I catch, he
didn't get their fish yesterday,but this is the deal, though.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
When you have a group , when you have a group and one
of your friends is aprofessional bass angler, all
right, this is what he does fora fucking living, you feel
obligated.
I mean you want to be the coolkid too right in your group?
I mean, good jeez man, allright.
So just try that.
Add somebody like him in yourfishing group and you see how
(39:31):
much you start lying.
Yeah, and see how fast you lieabout what you catch for fishing
.
But um, all right tim.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
But what I did?
Catch a fish yesterday.
He is convinced I didn't catcha fish.
I mean, nobody's seen it andyou've lied to him before and
where you were sitting.
Speaker 3 (39:38):
I would never.
I would bet thousands ofdollars that you did not catch
one right there.
Why?
Speaker 2 (39:44):
It was a hump next to the creek, the boat lane, just
like we've been fishing everyother hump, why would you not
look there?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
I've looked at that whole lake and I've never seen
them there.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
This proves my point.
This proves my point, guys, ifyou're watching this podcast,
this absolutely proves my point.
If you want to catch more fish,you've got to figure out where
the fish are, because we went toa great big old lake yesterday
and there's fish only in fivespots.
Okay, yeah, there's a lot ofthem If you're not in one of
those five spots, good luck.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
I think we should have a tournament on that lake.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Well, me and Dad went there before, you know, like
before yesterday one day, and wedid not catch a fish.
Dude, I mean not a fish all day, we're there all day.
I would call like 40 pounds.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
No, I call it maybe 40 total, but yeah, I mean 40
total pounds.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Better than zero fish yeah, I mean, he went this way
and me and b-style said well, Iguess we'll go this way and then
you should have went that way,and yesterday we went the way
y'all went I know, dude, Iwatched you lose like an eight
pounder.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
I know, dude, on the glide dude glide bait's badass.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
I mean, if you guys don't fish for glide bait, you
get it out.
But you know, tyler would throwit over there and it was an
eight foot of water, nine footof water, and he's just barely
working that fish would come offthat bottom.
But you know, tyler would throwit over there and it was eight
foot of water, nine foot ofwater, and he just barely work
it and that fish would come offthat bottom.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
Sucking in dude what the hell's going on.
Let's go back.
Speaker 2 (41:10):
This is crazy.
I mean, I'm ready.
Well, after the podcast, we'regoing to go fishing.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Did you hear, daryl?
He said but you can't go to anyspots.
Tyler showed you, oh fuck, thatwe're going.
I mean technically, daryl, hewas showing us how to read our
graphs, so we kind of found themtogether.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Daryl, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, there's
only five spots on Lake TestFish.
Speaker 3 (41:30):
That we've seen yesterday.
There's apparently one spotthat's got a 13-incher though.
Speaker 2 (41:38):
I'm not fully convinced, but supposedly.
Well, you'll never know thetruth.
I'm never going to fess up tothat one.
Speaker 1 (41:42):
I'm going to put him on the line you got to start
breaking it Throughout thiswhole series of him.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
Hey, the day I win on the big stage, I'll tell you if
I caught that fish or not.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Tyler's going to have to bring a polygraph with him
when he's coaching us See who'slying.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
So, Tyler, two days ago I'll be honest with you, oh
is this more about me now?
Speaker 2 (42:04):
No, okay.
Speaker 4 (42:05):
Well, I was catching fish.
Like as soon as I got there,boom, boom, boom and I was
sitting there.
I was like they're never goingto believe this, so I started
taking videos of me like winningthe fish bet.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
And I'm like shoot.
I said I don't believe it.
This guy's like bullshit.
I was like bullshit.
I was like hold on.
Speaker 4 (42:21):
I knew, I already knew Because of Tim saying that
before Now I did Now.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
I did, I did catch, you know, I did catch a good one
yesterday.
Well, that day we fished,that's the only fish I caught.
Now that boils back down towhat Daryl's good at, you know.
Came back, you call what?
26 pounds 22 22 pounds, yeah,and here I am sitting at four
and a half, and so that's livescope versus shaky head but I
(42:48):
live scope the whole day too,and I ended up with like 15
pounds.
I don't want to hear it.
Dude, you caught five fishbehind my boat.
Bullshit, I don't know how thatdamn happened.
Following them we were.
Speaker 1 (42:58):
I were fishing.
I think we're fishing together.
I was just following them herewe go and I was just casting all
fish that I seen just followinghim and I was catching every
one of them dude.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I said what are you throwing all that?
He said, man, you got to hithim in the head.
Got to hit him in the head.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
I'm like shut the fuck up is what he said.
Speaker 4 (43:18):
I'm so it's a video.
It's a dude at the golf courseand it was like when you're
fishing for fish on a live scopeand the dude tees it off and
the ball is like a hook orwhatever and he hits somebody
right in the head.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
It's quite effective.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
But anyway, that shows you my mistakes.
I mean, I was self-destructing.
That's another problem I have.
It's like when I get behind,start the shit, my brain starts
fucking up.
It's like a like a highway offuckery up there and everything
just falls apart yeah, you startgetting worse, I get mad.
Your confidence, you get upset,yeah daniel showed up, beat
(43:54):
scott's boat and they're filmingeverything.
I was throwing shit, I wascussing, I was mad, you know I
just lost see.
Speaker 4 (44:02):
So when we fish, I mean I just fell off.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
See when we fish.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
I mean, I just flat out lost.
See, when we fish that's mygoal.
Speaker 4 (44:05):
I go get five fish.
I'm not behind, I have to jump.
All right.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
So when I first, when I first got, there I lost a big
one, you know, and it just gotin my head and I don't know how
Tyler deals with that in atournament.
Be worse for us once we get inthe damn big tournament, but
more pressure, I mean it, Ithink it will.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
How many more times?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
you have this year tyler uh three and a
championship do you ever regretgetting into the fishing
industry?
Speaker 3 (44:31):
no, I mean I've, I've , you know, made a bunch of
really good friends, and youknow, well, you met us and yeah,
I mean I enjoy, um, I meandon't get me wrong like the
professional fishing as a wholeis.
It's, I say, not in a supergood place right now as far as
you know financially with thesponsors and stuff, but you know
(44:53):
just the relationships I'vebuilt and you know, got the
stuff I've gotten to do over thelast eight years I mean to me
is worth it.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
I mean.
One reason why we want to do itis to hang out with you and
fish with you.
I think you know, know, we havea good time, you know, and I
mean everybody wants to fish.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
You know what I mean like for a living.
That's like you grow whenyou're growing up like man.
I wish I'd be a professionalbass fisherman.
Yeah, wouldn't that be awesome.
Like how many kids around theworld saying that still today?
You know there's still 14, 15,16 year old guys out there are
like one day, I want to be aprofessional bass fisherman.
Well, if you want to, youshould definitely watch this
series, because Tyler's fixingto walk us through it step by
(45:30):
step the fundamentals of findingfish, catching fish, what to
look for, what to throw.
I mean, guys, you're not goingto find more information in one
place than right here.
So he's going to get us to thepros and it's going to be a
journey.
It's going to be fun for himtoo.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
Oh yeah, I'm excited about it.
Can you make this happen?
Can you do this?
I mean, I don't know With me,I'm a mess.
Darrell, you know he's good atcertain things.
Speaker 1 (45:58):
I mean, it's going to be fun seeing this play out,
and it's going to be our winningdeals too.
We're going to have good daysand bad days.
Some days we're going to bepissed off.
Speaker 3 (46:08):
I think a good goal for the group would be, to cash
a check.
Speaker 2 (46:14):
That should be the goal.
Let me tell you something, dude.
Speaker 3 (46:16):
If y'all cash one check, that's a win.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
If I cash a check, we're going to party.
That's going to be awesome.
Make it win if I, if I cancheck, we're gonna party.
Speaker 4 (46:25):
That's gonna be awesome.
Make it to day three day three,I don't care what happens?
Speaker 2 (46:28):
could you imagine?
Speaker 4 (46:29):
I'm just going fishing, I don't care what
happens.
Speaker 2 (46:31):
What is one of us actually places?
Can you could you imagine howcrazy?
Speaker 1 (46:35):
that's going to be, everybody places I mean you're
gonna scroll down theleaderboards.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
Gonna be daryl tip scott, brett scott the Havoc
boys came in strong, the lastthree spots 149, 148, 147.
It's going to be fun.
I can just see Ashley right nowsitting on the couch.
Oh my God.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Tim's going to get the weight.
He's going to have wood goodfish, wood like seven pounders.
He's going to be like Wood fishHis stage.
Speaker 4 (47:00):
You know his speech is going to be like this man.
You know, I had the big one.
I just couldn't put the bagtogether.
I just couldn't get the otherfive.
But I'm hoping tomorrow I'llget the big one.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
How'd it look guys.
Speaker 1 (47:11):
I couldn't find the fish, but I drove my boat fast,
real fast, they were biting, Igot all nervous got all shook up
.
Speaker 4 (47:19):
I just couldn't put it together.
Boys, we're going to go outthere tomorrow, fish hard, put
our head down, put the trollingmotor down and just try to find
fish, you know you got topractice your speech.
Speaker 3 (47:24):
That's what you got to say.
Speaker 4 (47:25):
Tom, was that good.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
No that was good I've got.
Yeah, I mean, once you get usedto not catching them, you kind
of get a pretty good speech.
You're like well what?
Speaker 4 (47:35):
I try, you know, tomorrow I'm starting to put my
shoulder more down, man.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
I'm confident tomorrow will be a better day.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
The weather it could be much worse.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
I got better layup of the lake today.
You know the end of the guyscaught them, so I'm just going
to try to go put it back so Ican get a cash check and get
ready for the next event.
Speaker 1 (47:58):
We'll see.
Look at the leaderboard,they'll tell you about.
Well, you know, I find it kindof strange that we're fishing
the same lake and you know Icame out with like 12 pounds and
you know they got like 45pounds.
So I don't, it's a little sus,I don't.
I don't think we're actually onthe same lake.
I think there's an errorsomewhere.
Speaker 4 (48:12):
Um, they're looking into it thanks to the sponsor
for making this happen.
Yeah, we're gonna really keeptrying.
We're gonna try to do betternext time better give us more
money we're learning.
We're learning give us moremoney.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
We try again next week.
We're still learning, that'sright.
Well guys, y'all gotta staytuned yeah, it's gonna be fun um
, I'm excited.
I'm really just ready to justhave an open mind and learn some
new strategies and new ways tofish.
I mean I want to do it theright way and everybody wants to
win.
I mean a bunch of.
I mean right now we're losers,you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (48:42):
I want to win, though yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
I want to see my name up there.
I want my fucking pro card,yeah that's it I'm ready.
Get tired, make it happen, letme go fish tournament all right,
let's do it, I'm in, oh my god,what day is it?
Thursday oh fucking friday.
I was like what's we're hopingin whatever thursday night or is
close I don't know man, I leave.
Speaker 2 (49:02):
I think we need to get a little practice, you know.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
Well, let's do it guys.
Speaker 4 (49:07):
I think we need to fish tournament for the summer
tournament.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
I think maybe like for the last episode of the
series, like we jump in like alocal tournament.
No, I say, we don't.
Speaker 1 (49:18):
actually I say we don't fish a single local
tournament.
We just go straight into theToyota Series.
Let's just go straight into theToyota Series.
Speaker 4 (49:26):
Watch your mind, Brady.
Speaker 2 (49:29):
I say we go straight into it.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Yeah, let's not fish a single tournament.
Let's go, can you play?
Speaker 3 (49:33):
Can you do.
That's good for your confidence.
Speaker 4 (49:37):
Let's go straight into the Toyota Series.
Speaker 2 (49:39):
That's what you're for, Tyler.
Get us ready.
Speaker 4 (49:47):
I mean mean this is gonna be a hard task.
I mean, if it ain't gonna behard, we don't want no part of
it, we want to do the impossibleI feel like you need to just
get that a little bit of littlebit of local tournaments going.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
That's what, that's what.
Hey, that's what normal peopledo.
Speaker 4 (49:55):
We don't do that no, I say I said we don't like going
and catching five fish and nottalking to anybody.
Speaker 2 (50:00):
I mean, we do catch bad fish now.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
I know you can't be on the phone.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
There's so many rules that we gotta go through.
We should go fish.
We're gonna get DQ'd probably.
Hey.
Step 1 is gonna explain therule book to us my fifth
tournament.
Okay, I actually made it withoutgetting DQ'd, but alright well,
anyway, we can talk about thisall day, but I think we need to
wrap this thing up.
I'm excited.
We're all excited.
Guys, if you want to learnabout fishing the fundamentals
(50:26):
there ain't going to be moreinformation in one spot than
right here, so make sure youstay tuned.
Leave a like, subscribe, hitthe bell for notifications and
we'll catch you on the next one.
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