TAME YOUR TILLER, BOAT SETUP | Ep070 | Off The Clock with B Scott - Off The Clock with B Scott

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's 5 o'clock and you're off to call Uncle B Scott
.
Today we got Michael Shockley,daryl Moore and Tim Scott.
We're doing something a littledifferent here.
Alright, it's episode 70.
So what we're going to do iswe'll put a post on our Arkansas
Attilio handle page to call inabout setup questions.
We're talking about boats here.
So you know, everybody knowsthe different models we make.
Some people might not know, butthey're all setups to achieve

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different things and a lot ofpeople are confused and don't
know about them.
So what we're going to do iswe're going to answer questions,
we're going to take calls andwe're going to hopefully get as
much lined out as we can Now.
Obviously, it's something we'regoing to do a little bit more
of because it just goes so deep,there's so much to it and we
can't possibly cover in oneepisode.
So please smash the Like buttonif you like and enjoy this

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information, and we'll make sureto do more of it.
But before we get into it, makesure you check out the gear
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Hit the subscribe button, guys.
We're at 3300.
That's huge and we couldn't dowithout you, guys.
So we're gonna keep going andreally, let's get right into it.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
So what we're doing today?
Guys, it would give somebodysome courtesy call like they've
seen all right.
So what we're doing, guys, whatwe're doing here, is we're
doing today, guys.
I think it would give somebodysome courtesy to call Like
they've seen somebody else Allright.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
So what we're doing, guys, what we're doing here is
we're going to talk about boats,we're going to talk about
setups and we put an ArkansasArtillery Handle page that, hey,
y'all can call in during thispodcast and ask questions.
So we're going to talk aboutthe difference between the VJSTs
, the RDBSTs, what they'redesigned for and really
performance setup, Because a lotof people don't understand how
it works or what model is rightfor them, and that's what we're

(01:28):
going to be talking about.
Now.
We might get interrupted bypeople calling in and asking
questions.
I hope a whole bunch of peoplecall.
What do you think?
You think a lot of people aregoing to call Dad?
I don't know, I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I hope they do, but I think it's a lot easier to text
on your telephone than actuallytalk in person, and this is a
page that has a lot of haters init.
It has a lot of haters.
We invite the haters, of course, but you know it's a lot
different talking shit on theInternet than actually calling
somebody and talking shit tothem, Especially on the podcast.
On the podcast, but I'm lookingforward to it.

(02:00):
I think last night I mean a lotof this drummed up from last
night uh, there was a tillerpost, uh, between who was it?
Shockley?

Speaker 5 (02:10):
evan yukon denali or I can't pronounce it last all
right.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
So so I didn't know who this guy was and you know,
and I was reading all this stuffthey're talking about.
Don't need 10 inches of this,don't need 10 inches that,
whatever.
Um, of course, you see onfacebook all the time these
people that I mean.
They just think they knoweverything, you know him.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
He races the four-star class of races.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
You're right.
And after talking to the guy Iwas thinking last night, here
goes another guy.
I didn't recognize his name.
Well, I PM'd him.
I said hey man, shoot me a textmessage, I'd like to talk to
you.
Well, when he shot me a message, hell, I heard his number on my
phone.
I talked to him.
I talked to him several times.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
He's a pretty good guy.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
He's a good guy and after I talked to him I said
shit, I didn't know that was youman, what's up.
And after I talked to detail,he knows what he's talking about
.
Oh, yeah, he does, but there isa little bit misleading.
You talk to a guy.
You talk about a racer thatwill put a boat on a track for

(03:11):
660 feet.
That's a different mindset than98% of the public.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
That buys their boats .
Right, it is.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Right.
I think a guy that puts a boaton the 660 track.
That's two percent, yeah.
And if and if we were buildingboats just for those people,
we'd be out of business, right,I agree.
So you know, I think his pointof view of setting a boat up is
still yes, it may be correct forwhat he's doing, but for the

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everyday joe blow that buys aboat, that's not what he needs
to do and especially, you knowlike, with his setup, most
people that are going to have aVJST it's more of a utility boat
do a little bit of this, alittle bit of that.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
Our RD-BSTs and our Mod 40s are designed for
performance.
So if you start with a VJSTframe and you're looking to get
performance out of it, that's onthe same level with like a Mod
40 or something you're not goingto get done with six inches

(04:12):
setback.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
No, you're not.
Just because the hole is notdesigned for that, not with a
factory hole.
Now you go cutting and doingthis, doing that, you might
can't.
There's a guy in south carolinawhooped some ass with a vj at
the races.
Yeah, he did.
Uh, but for your 98 of thepeople somebody calls in, we're
not going to set your boat uplike that.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
If you roll around the river and you've got a VJST,
you know you've got a girl, anice chest, a dog, whatever a
couple of chairs, you know sixinch setback it's not going to
be enough because there's toomuch weight, there's not enough,
more likely not enough power.
Now a souped-up two-stroke onthe back, that's screaming.
And you had the right weightratio.
You might could do it with sixinches, but I still think it'd

(04:46):
be pretty hard.

Speaker 5 (04:48):
I just had a buddy of mine's up not long ago with a
150 motor on it a strong motorand it still took 10 inches to
set back to get it run right youknow what a lot of people don't
understand, though.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Even if you've got a strong motor and a big prop, big
blade of prop, whatever, andyou're holding enough water to
pick that front end up, whenthat thing blows out, it's
violent.
Oh yeah, so you know, I tellpeople all the time.
I mean, you go out there andyou can buy six thousand dollars
worth of mud tires right,they're good quality tires.
You spend six thousand dollars.
Well, take 25 cents of weightsoff of it.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
See how good them tires are, see how good those
tires are.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
So I think a lot of people don't understand that
because you're toting the nose,you're holding that nose up with
your horsepower.
You're actually robbinghorsepower from your prop and
when that thing blows out, whenthat prop loses that water
pressure and that rake hits thatwater, it's what's going to
hook up.

Speaker 5 (05:44):
An 80-degree hole is not forgiving when it comes to
that it's not designed for thatit's not, it's not.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
You know, you know, uh, you know we go duck hunting,
we go deer hunting.
And when I go deer hunting, uh,especially on hunting public,
uh, water, you know, you know,deer hunting, I like a vj I like
and a lot of people don'tunderstand the difference
between the models.
You've got a heavy-duty MSDC.
You've got an RDBST.
You've got a Mod 40.
You've got the Marshrunner orwhatever.

(06:11):
Then you've got the lightweightVJs.
Well, you could pile that boatfull of shit, right?
So you take a 1756 VJ and byCoast Guard, you fill the boat
full of water.
How many gallons it is to fill?
It is what that boat maximumcapacity.
You divide it by five, right?
So you take the same boat andthen this one's a lot heavier

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and that boat's twice as heavyas that VJ.
It's literally going to carryless weight.
You know the heavier boat'sgoing to carry less weight.
So there's actually a purposeright between the weights of the
boats and I think a lot ofpeople don't understand that
yeah you know you could pile theweight in the vj and she'll
carry the load.
You can't pile the weight intoan mscc because she's built to

(06:57):
take the beating yeah, yeah,it's a total, different pivot
point.
It's totally different, youknow.
You know, just for setup, I'mjust talking about load capacity
.
Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I meanthe setup.
I'm just talking about loadcapacity.
Oh yeah, you know, I mean thelighter the boat, the heavier
the load.
I mean it's a lot deeper thanthat.
A lot of people don'tunderstand that the pivot point
of the boat, the balancing pointof the boat, is way different.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well, I'll tell you what.
Let's explain a setup fromstart to finish.
Let's take like a 1653 vjst forexample, say a 50 horsepower
four-stroke, because most peoplethat's what they're gonna have
nowadays.
Uh, let's, let's build thatsetup so that everybody can kind
of see how we would do it fromthe start.
And we're talking about like aregular built boat.

(07:37):
You know, you got a gun tray,you got a mid-deck top hatch for
hunting.
You know, uh say, you're gonnabe carrying a little bit of gear
.
You know, not crazy, but just alittle bit of gear.
Let's start from the get-go,all right.
So you got the 50 horsepowerTatsu, whatever.
Right, if I was duck hunting outof it and I knew I was going to
have some gear and I wasn'tworried about, you know, toting

(08:00):
the nose on the sandbar, I wouldgo with like a six inch setback
.
You know, hydraulic jack place.
I can get the motor up and outif I need to, and I will be okay
with that.
Yeah, you know, because whatthat's going to allow you to do
is you're going to be able tocome out of the hole.
Good, you're going to haveadjustment with the jack plate.
You're going to be able to uh,jack it up and run shallow, you
know if anything, maybe somewedges, positive, positive

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wedges, right, if you need moretrim that's what it usually
comes down to is just the amountof trim you actually have and
take that boat right there.
And if you were to take thatboat and the way it ran, it
would run good in the huntingseason, be able to turn real
well, it'd clean up and ride.
But then you take that boat andyou want to go to the sandbar.
I would think the only thingother than maybe a prop that you

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need to change would be thejack plate.

Speaker 5 (08:47):
Add more setback, oh yeah 100%, just to help leverage
it and clean it up more.
And I would say 75% of thepeople would just change the
prop and be happy with it.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
You know why they change the prop?
Because TikTok, it's theeasiest thing to change yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
It's the easiest thing to change.
Yeah, it's the easiest thing tochange.
It's also the easiest thing toblame, yes, yes, no.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
What I was saying is that people get set up for
hunting and they want to go alittle bit faster in the
summertime.
Of course, just change yourprop, yeah, but it's the ones
that I'm getting the most callsabout.
That's wanting to float theirnose, like you see on TikTok
Unknown caller.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Are we Unknown caller ?
All right, we're getting a call.
We're getting a call, randomcaller.
All right, go ahead and answerit.
Hey, you're on.
It's me Off the Clock with BScott.
I got Shockley Dad and Darylwith me.

Speaker 11 (09:35):
Who are you and where are you calling from?
Oh, this is Evan Ujaz and I'mjust calling.
I've been talking with Mr Timand Michael on Facebook.
Awesome man, mr Tim and Michaelon Facebook Awesome man.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Awesome, how do you say your last name again?
You pause.
Okay, yeah, you fucked that up.
I called you Ucon Denali.
I didn't know.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I knew that wasn't right.
Man, you know, I'll just tellthem.
You know, earlier in thepodcast I was talking about you.
I didn't realize that was youthat I was talking to last year.
But, man, you know, explain toeverybody what that post was
about and tell everybody whatyou race and what makes your

(10:13):
boat special.

Speaker 11 (10:15):
Right.
So that post was just kind ofnot directed at Havoc or
directed at any certainindividual, anything like that.
That was more of a post that ifyou spend the time and the
effort and the energy andwhatnot, you can make a boat

(10:37):
perform in a way that you wouldlike it to.
So for me, what I really tryand aim for is I've set up
probably about 25 to 30 boatsfor people.
Now what I try to aim for is Iwant to have it because I want a
boat that I can use, whether itbe duck hunting, racing at the
sandbar, whatever the most broadboat I can find.

(11:00):
Basically was a big reason thatit pulled to me and I like to
hunt and I believe a boat leavesbetter and turns night and day
different with six versus ten um.
And so I try to get because alot of my customers hunt, you
know we're, I'm from northlouisiana, we're about an hour
south of pheasant ball andpretty close to upper, and so

(11:21):
there's a lot of guys that hunt.
That you know timber quick,turning quick, tight stuff like
that you know.
And so I try and get the boatsto run with six um just so
they're able to dart and turn ona dime a little bit better, um,
and so that was just like Isaid earlier, just say hey, if
you spend the time and theeffort and do your research and
talk to people, that you canfigure out how to make them

(11:45):
perform in a way that will suityour needs.
Basically.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Not only just talking , but talking to the right
people.
There's just so much more badinformation out there.
But you know you go back inhistory A lot of people don't
know this, but you go back inhistory when we built the edge
boats right, and we're putting a10-inch Magnum jack plates on
the back and kind of wait towait back to get the nose up in
there.
Uh, that's the reason why themod 40, you know, and that's the

(12:11):
reason why the mod 40, themarsh runners and all those
performance holes were developedbecause of that problem.
To me that was a problem and alot of people don't see it as
that, but we're in amanufacturing business.
That's what we do do and youknow it was a problem.
Just like you said, evans, inyour comment that the closer the
motor, the harder the boatturns, the whole shot's better

(12:31):
and that's absolutely right,it's 100% right.
It is.
Why do you think B Scottspanked everybody's ass with two
inches of setback on the Mod 40?
It's that whole shot.
We knew that that boat didn'tneed setback and a lot of people
want to put setback on it.
But unfortunately, when you buythe cheap havics, the vjs, the
vjs are inexpensive havics.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
I mean, they're the entry-level havoc boats and
they're cheap as a lineup, andwhen you purchase that boat you
do have to spend two thousanddollars twenty five hundred
dollars to get the boat to toe,to nose right, because it's not
designed that way because youknow they'll see that post and
they'll say, okay, six inchessetback is what I need to have
it run like that.
But they don't understand howmuch time it took on every other
aspect of the rig.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
You know like the prop and everything else you got
going on.
So, Evans, I mean, how muchweight did you take out of your
boat to compete on the 660?

Speaker 11 (13:18):
Repeat that one more time.
We're cutting out pretty bad onthis phone call.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
How much weight did you have to take out of your
boat?
Did you take any weight out ofyour boat when you race?

Speaker 11 (13:28):
Yes, sir.
So for the first year and ahalf I left the boat stock I
race at.
The personal hole that I own isa 656.
And so for the club that we'vebeen racing the past couple of
years, the Tuhatsu only has toweigh 900 pounds.
Well, when you've got a200-pound motor, a 200-pound
dude and a 656, it's pretty hardto get down to that 900 range.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
So what did you do with your boat?

Speaker 11 (13:58):
So I cut the front deck out of it and had Fab Shop,
Pin Oak and Little Rockactually make it like a
removable deck adventure seriesboat I got you and so it suits
me for more than just racing.
Uh, all my buddies run Mercs.
I'm I'm the four stroke guy inthe group and so usually when
we're hunting I'm usually tallin the gear.
You know cause I ain't gonnaline up with a one 30 pound Merc

(14:18):
that will smoke me night andday, you know.
And so when I have all thatfloor space in that room in that
boat, it makes it not only goodfor me but just the betterment
of our group when we're huntingand stuff like that.
Um, but that boat also ran likethe picture that I posted on
facebook, the one that has thereason this podcast is happening
right now and the call andeverything I would, I would

(14:40):
venture to say, is a big reason.
Um, that boat in that pictureand in that video was stock.
It had all the hatch lids on it.
The floor was in it.
It just had a six-inch kick andjack on there.
It had a couple washers I thinkthree washers stacked on the
bottom to give me a little bitmore positive trim, but there
wasn't any two-degree wedges oranything like that.

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The only reason I really cutthe boat up to make it lighter
is I hate to lose.
And uh, we went to the first,no second zone to race in 24.
And there was a boy that kindof blew my doors down, which was
new, Cause I had kind of donereally well in that class the
year before and so I went to thedrawing board.
What can I do by myself to makethis boat get faster in the

(15:25):
track?
And so that's where the idea ofthat came in.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Let me ask you this why?

Speaker 11 (15:31):
don't you just buy a Mod 40?
I love a 16-foot boat.
I got you, and so that was thebig reason.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
I was in school, so you're trying to build a race
boat out of something you canhunt with.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Right.

Speaker 11 (15:45):
And you just like the 16 foot.
Yeah, I, I like the way of 16handles, um, just for everything
.
I like to fish, I like to hunt,I like the sandbar race and for
for a while that 16 foot, 16foot boat did well in the four
stroke class.
It competed with some of yourmore performance holes.
I have videos of me actuallybeating my 40s and rdbsts in the
track, you know, just becausenot because my boat is better

(16:08):
than another boat or anythinglike that I just had more time
and effort and props and whatnotthan other people, you know.
And uh, now that I'm gettinginto the two-stroke game, I'm
not building.
I have, uh, coley mcnabb is agood buddy of mine and he builds
me and loops, race stuff andwhatnot.
And um, now that I've kind ofseen how I ran a merc on my uh,

(16:34):
on my vj and it did great, itsprayed off the back exactly
like it was supposed to, kind oflike how me and you talked
earlier on the phone thismorning that I'm not so worried
about putting the nose 10 feetin the air, rather that I want
the boat to get out the watercorrectly and spray off the back
of the paws like it wasdesigned to do you know, right,
a lot of people don't understandthat it looks cool on tiktok

(16:55):
and stuff, you know, but you canend those way up in there.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
But you know you start right, you, but you start
burying that transom.
It's just gonna take a beatingover time and most, most of the
calls I get.
That's what people are wantingand the boats are slow as shit,
but it looks good.
You know what I'm saying.
It looks cool, but I said in mycomment last night.
I said, if you go kneeboarding,hang your ass off the back of
the kneeboard, right.
Yeah, tell me how you feel thenext day.

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The object of kneeboarding isstay on top of the board, stay
on top of the water and be fast.
You start dragging that ass.
Something's going to give up.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, I mean just the way it is.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
But, man, we're getting some more phone calls.
It was a pleasure talking toyou.
Yeah, thanks for calling in youobviously know what you're
doing and we appreciate whatyou're doing for us, and if you
can help us get these peoplelined out on Facebook on how to
set up a boat, We'd be greatlyappreciate it.

Speaker 11 (17:45):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 5 (17:47):
All right, Help us out.
We'll definitely help you outin the future.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
Yeah, no kidding man, help us help you?

Speaker 11 (17:51):
Yeah Right, I just want everybody to be happy with
what they bought.
You know I've been happy withmy boat.
I know if something were tohappen, I could drive up to
Fordyce any day of the week andit'd get lined out, you know.
So I want other other, I wantthe other customers to feel the
same way about the rig that theyspend their hard-earned work,
hard-earned money that they workfor.
You know, and so that's right.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
I agree 100 we appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
I do have one question, though, evan.
Uh what, yeah, on that post youhad last night, what prop was
you?
Was you running a stock prop orwas that prop work?

Speaker 11 (18:22):
oh so that was a out the box stock srd4 prop.
It was a 15 pitch, um.
So yes, four blade is going tonaturally lift more, you know,
especially with an 11 and aquarter and shockly uh made a
comment saying that it lookedreally high.
Well, yeah, I have a calf plateon my motor too, so I can run
it even higher than per senormally, you know.

(18:43):
So that thing was jacked up atwell I don't know four and a
half five inches.
That was two years ago thatvideo.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I mean, nobody really knows that.
That's what you've got tounderstand that only 2% of the
people would know that.
The other 98% don't know that.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
And a lot of people just look at that and think
nothing more than just I needsix inches and the four-stroke.

Speaker 3 (19:00):
No you need 10 inches For 98% of the people that buy
a VJ that wants a Toth Nosethey're going to have to have a
10-inch Magnum Heavy Becausethey're probably going to have a
regular prop.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
You know, YBS, they're not going to run it for
a way.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
They're going to run it.
You know what I got $100.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
You ask somebody what prop theyS the real YVS just
for the same price as that.
But nobody gets on the gearshop and sees the same price of
real YVS on the gear shop.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Every time somebody tells me you can't find it
nowhere cheaper.

Speaker 11 (19:40):
If you're spending $10,000 on a boat and then
$2,000 on a trailer and $6,000to $7,000 on a motor, depending
on what you get, why are youlimiting yourself to a $250
product?

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Hey, you know what's even crazier than that?
They'll buy a motor that'santique, basically right.

Speaker 6 (19:57):
Pretty much.
It's basically an antique motor, right.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
They'll put all this money in the damn thing.
Then they get pissed off at mewhen I say flip the boat upside
down and work the bottom of theboat right.

Speaker 11 (20:08):
What's the difference between?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
working the bottom of the boat and buying an antique
motor and putting $5,000 in it.
It makes no sense.
Now I'm the fucking bad guy.
I'm the bad guy, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Well, evan we appreciate you calling in.
We got some people calling in.
Now sounds good.
Thanks for calling, Iappreciate you calling in we got
some people calling in now.

Speaker 11 (20:26):
Sounds good, thanks for calling.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yes, sir, I appreciate you man.

Speaker 5 (20:29):
All right, bye-bye.
So the calls we had, we want tocall them back.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
Yeah, can you try calling them back?
We had like three people callin while we were on the phone
with them.
Was there any names popping up,just numbers.
Just call them back you knowyou gotta take that in
consideration, though you knowhe's spent hours and hours
setting up his boat to be ableto be able to do both to be able
to hunt and and kind of raceout of it, but that's doing it
for other people, but, but, butthat's what's the magic about

(20:56):
him.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yes, that's what's special about him.
Most people don't do that.
He understands, yeah, and youknow it's a blessing to talk to
people like that, because heunderstands.
I talked to him this morning,had a great conversation with
him.
I said, man, you're a blessing,you know, because, man, you'll
get on the phone with somepeople and there's no, they just
will not listen, they just wantto blame you you know it's your

(21:17):
boat.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
You know, it's just like our guy up north that uh,
he was bound and terminated histurndowns was too violent.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
We're not going to mention that.
Don't bring that up.
I ain't bringing the name.
I've been billing boats for 27,28 years and he's on top of
five worst customers ever.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
But he's still calling to this day, wanting to
set up advice.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
I would block his number and.

Speaker 5 (21:36):
I found out that he had them turndowns cut off.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, that's the problem.
It, that's the problem.

Speaker 5 (21:40):
It's still running the exact same speed it was
before.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
I don't even want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
I don't want to talk about it.
Yeah, I don't want to talkabout it either.
I tried to help out.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
That's a broken road there.
Yeah, okay, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
All right, we got Daniel Simpson here.
We're about to call back.
Oh great DT.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
This is awesome, mr LCA.
Oh yeah, oh, I remember thisguy.
Yeah, dt Simpson.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Come on, baby.
Did he go back into work?
He could have.
He might be working.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
That's the tough thing about it, yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, not everybody gets to do this for a living.

Speaker 5 (22:24):
I want to say he's in the refinery, but I'm not real
sure.
I'm sorry the person that's thetough thing about it.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
Yeah, yeah, not everybody gets to do this for a
living.
I want to say he's in therefinery, but I'm not real sure.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
I'm sorry.
You know he squeezed out on abreak or something.
Yeah, he's like, I'm out.
I'm going to hit this call realquick.
I called just to call.

Speaker 3 (22:33):
No, they didn't answer, so I'm good.

Speaker 13 (22:38):
No, he'll call back.
Yeah, he will, shirley Baker.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Shirley Baker?
I don't know who that is.
What area code?

Speaker 14 (22:44):
It is a 912.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
I like it.
It's called back.
I don't know where that's from.
I'll just do it.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
That seems wild.
Go for it.
Do it, yeah.
B-squad's like oh shit.
B-squad's like you owe us thisamount of money.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Hey, you have a ticket.

Speaker 3 (23:05):
Do, do it.
We're going to figure out howto get this thing, hello.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Hello, you're on Off the Clock with B Scott.
I got Tim Scott, michaelShockley and Daryl Moore with me
.
Who are you?

Speaker 7 (23:17):
Hey what's going on?

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Not much, man.
What's going on with you dude?

Speaker 7 (23:23):
Not much.
I saw y'all put put in thefacebook group there and um, I
just had a question.
I got a 1553 rdbst all right andum, right now it's just a stock
mega.
All I got is uh voice and reedsand uh tldi head gasket.
All right, but um, I'm sittingat like on a good day I'll get

(23:47):
39, 40 and uh.
I had a question about thehopping.
My buddy said he asked one ofy'all and he said something
about laying a bead on the backwhat kind of setup do you have
on the boat?
uh, it's just I got a six inchvance kicking jack yeah, do you
have on the boat?
It's just, I got a six-inchVance kicking jack yeah.
And right now I'm just runninga Solus 13-pitch prop.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
What.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
That's one of your problems.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
That's my first problem.
First problem Get rid of thatthing.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah, you said what pitch was it 13.
It's way too small.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Oh wow, that's way too small.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
You pitch, was it 13?
It's way too small.
Wow, that's way too small.
You're banging out, yeah, Iwould say.
What's probably happening isyour motor is just the props
maxed out.
It's doing all it can do and itjust can't keep pushing through
to hold the boat up.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Well, I mean it doesn't keep her boat balanced
and it just keeps falling,falling, yeah, slipping.
Uh, you're probably trying torun the motor higher than you
should, probably.
Um, yeah, you need to go backto the drawing board on the prop
.
You know, I would suggestsomething like a Turbo or
Vengeance or something like thataround your prop.
You could try a YBS.
I think a YBS is good for duckhunting.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
Really.

Speaker 7 (24:56):
I bought a 16-pitch YBS, but I don't think that's a.
Ybs that I bought because itwasn't riding good when I put it
on.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
No, it's probably a little too much.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
I think once you get your Mega rebuilt you know Cuz
does a really good job on Megas,but you get a good, strong Mega
.
She's going to run 53, 55 withthe right builder.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
And.
I think the Hoppin's definitelyprop-related, as far as just
not enough power to hold it up Astock mega should be 45 all day
.

Speaker 5 (25:26):
He said it was stock with just some bolt-ons right,
yeah, bolt-on mods it should be45.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
His biggest problem is a prop situation.
I think so you need to get agood prop man.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
For sure, for sure, I think that's it.
What else, anything else yougot going on with it?

Speaker 7 (25:44):
That.
Uh, what else is anything elseyou got going on with it?
Oh, that's really about it.
Um, I got a cathletic.
I know that helps, but also Igot.
I just I got 50 carbs for it,but they didn't come with
O-rings and I'm waiting.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
What do you have in the?
What do you have in the frontof the boat?
Do you have a bunch of weightin the front of the boat?

Speaker 7 (26:01):
No, just a VP can.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
And I mean mean speakers.
But speakers don't weigh.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
But well, let me ask you about the hop.
Is it a fast, is it a fast hopor is it like a slow, drawn out
hop?

Speaker 7 (26:14):
that's a pretty quick hop yeah you're just out of
balance, man.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
You're out of balance .
Your prop and my balance youknow?
Uh, so when you look at a boat,a boat's.
A boat's a lot like a seesaw.
You know what I'm saying.
So let's say you weigh 100pounds and the person you're
picking up weighs 200 pounds.
Can you physically pick up the200 pounds?
You can't.
There's only one way to do itYou've got to extend your side
of the seesaw.

Speaker 5 (26:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
So boats are that way .
You gotta get the boat balancedright and the way I like to do
it is is balancing the tongueweight of the boat, and what I
do is I take a bathroom scaleand get you, get your stick or
something, put it under the uh,the tongue and weigh your boat.
You know, put like, if youweigh 200 pounds, put 200 pounds
on the driver's side, whateverit is, weigh your, your nose

(26:59):
weight and work from therebecause, let's say your nose
weight and work from thereBecause, let's say your nose
weight's 150 pounds or so.
You need to really get lighter.
I mean, our RDB drags back inthe day had 13 pounds on the bow
.

Speaker 5 (27:12):
Yeah, that's why they would tote it so good.
It sounds funny to say, but youneed a lot of weight in the
very, very back of your boat.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
And it's not weight in the back of the boat that's
concerning.
It's the weight behind thetransom, and I think a lot of
people don't understand that.
A lot of people call me and say, hey, let's move weight from
the front to the back.
Or I added weight to the frontto get the porpoising.
Well, all you did was addweight and it made the
porpoising worse.

Speaker 5 (27:35):
It just made it worse .

Speaker 3 (27:36):
You have to take weight out of your boat and put
weight in certain places in yourboat, and further away from the
balancing point of the boat isgoing to work the most.
Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 (27:46):
So basically what he's saying is so with your Mega
it's a lighter motor right andyou're running on six inches,
which isn't a whole lot ofleverage, so it's harder to get
that weight further back on thebalance point with a Mega than
it is, say, you put afour-stroke on there, like if
you put a four stroke and thesame exact setup you have you're
and you did the bathroom scalething where you weighed the

(28:09):
tongue it would be significantlylighter with the four stroke
and I'll tell you.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
I'll tell you another trick too.
A lot of people don'tunderstand it.
But let's say your balancingpoint.
We're getting a phone call.
But let's say your balancingpoint, we gotta make this quick.
But it's in the middle of yourboat.
Okay, and you've got a six-inchjack plate on the back of your
boat and you don't want to gobuy more jack plate to use the
motor as leverage?
Okay, you could simply putweight inside your jack plate

(28:36):
and it moves the balance board.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
And we've done that at the races before.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Now this is a problem , though.
You start stacking a lot ofweight on your transom and you
can't get it out of the hole.
That goes into a horsepowerissue.
Yep, you know.
So there's a fine line ofbalancing act here.
But you know a lot of peopleget confused on setback.
What does setback really do?
Does it clean the water to theprop?
That's all bullshit.
Yes, it does help clean thewater up.
Okay, if you're running theright prop to take advantage of

(29:02):
it.
But it's a lot of it iscounterweight.
You get the counterweight ofthe boat right, get the boat
about boat balance right, thenyou can start working on props.
But on your case, you'veabsolutely picked the worst prop
.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, I would start with the prop and then I would.
I would move straight from theprop on to balance point and I
would do it with the empty.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
I'd get it lined out with the boat empty, not without
a, with the gas can not in thefront yeah, I know I don't.
I don't weigh a lot and I knowthat boat is not very heavy yeah
, so that makes it even worse ayear so, and I always tell
people I'll show two people too.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
And so really it's.
I mean, it's true, put yourboat in the water, take a
picture of it, the more likely Itell's how your boat's going to
run.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Yeah, I mean generally.
Yeah, you're right In a way.
I bet your boat sits prettyflat in the water.
You're not having an issue withthe nose, just sitting up.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
No, no, no, You're sitting somewhat flat and that's
kind of how your boat's running.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Do you have a full-size marine battery or are
you running lithium?

Speaker 7 (30:00):
Battery yes sir.
That's in the back with me.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
What kind of battery is it?
What?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
kind of battery is it ?

Speaker 7 (30:07):
I got a battery in the gas tank right there.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
Is it an AGM battery or is it a lithium battery?

Speaker 7 (30:13):
No, it's just a regular battery.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
Yeah, you want a good heavy battery back there A lot
of people put lithium batteriesback there because they think
it's better, unless you don'tgot enough horsepower.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
But if you don't got enough horsepower, but if you
don't got enough horsepower youneed to go.
A lighter boat, yeah.

Speaker 5 (30:25):
I mean I run leader.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
That's a problem.
But anyways, man, we're gettinga bunch of calls coming in.
Thank you for calling.
I hope we helped you out someand definitely keep track of it.
Keep messaging us and stuff andlet's definitely help you get
your boat set up.

Speaker 5 (30:38):
Let's get it lined out, yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
Yeah yeah, man, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
Hey, man, no problem, man, we appreciate you.
Dude, alright, man, you have agood one alright alright, who we
?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
calling, we calling somebody else it says Amanda
Myers hey, amanda, I don't knowit's probably it's your phone.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
I know it's my phone, but it's definitely phone, but
it's definitely his wife's name.
Are you sure about?

Speaker 3 (31:08):
this B-Sky.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
Name.
Don't ring a bell.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
Maybe we should do live Cut Amanda Myers.
That sounds really familiar.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
He's on his mom's phone, Bill.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
I've seen a Myers name pop up here recently.
It's going to be somebody withno thing.
This is crazy.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Hey, what's going on?
You're on Off the Clock with BScott.
I got Tim Scott with me,Michael Shockley and Daryl Moore
, and who are you and where areyou calling from?

Speaker 4 (31:38):
How's it going?
Yeah, I just wanted to talkabout I got a 653 Havoc VJ Okay,
and right now I'm running a 90sYamaha two-stroke, a 90 on it
Okay, I know what you're talkingabout and Go ahead.

Speaker 5 (31:56):
How much setback.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yeah, and I have, and I'm running no setback.
I'm running no jack plate,nothing, it's just straight
bolted to transom.
Right now I'm not exactly surewhat jack plate I should go with
and what prop.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
With that motor, I would say 6-inch.

Speaker 5 (32:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
I would say 6-inch.
I would go with a good heavyBob's.
Or if you go with a lighterversion, you know they don't
make.
You know they make a.
They don't make anything.
Hydraulic.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
But they're 8-inch.
We might work with that, butyou'd have to go with 8-inch,
with one of Caleb's jack plates.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Hydrodynamics.
Hydrodynamics, yeah, that'sright, it's a manual jack plate.

Speaker 5 (32:37):
I would definitely go from 6 to 8 inches, though Is
it a built 90?
What was that?

Speaker 4 (32:49):
Is built 90.
What was that is your?
Is your motor built or is itstock?

Speaker 5 (32:51):
oh, it's stock, it's stock, it's just got an oil
literally all right, I woulddefinitely start with a I'm not
real keen on yamaha.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
So how is it running now with the way it's set up?
What the way you got it set up?

Speaker 4 (33:01):
what do I have a setup right now yeah, how's it
running, yeah, how's it running.
How's it running?
Um, so I've got it.
So the trim isn't working.
I'm about to get it rebuilt.
So what I do is I just set thepin just all the way up because
I mean I could care less on mywhole shot.
Right now I'm not racing oranything right, I'm just trying
to get the best top speed andwith the pin all the way up, it

(33:23):
sits at about 48 by myself witha 13.3, 17 pitch ybs so your
boat's not hopping at all rightnow?

Speaker 5 (33:32):
what was that?
It don't hop at all right now,with it bolted straight to the
trans okay, so it hops gettingup to plane, depending on how
much.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
What about the trim?
They're saying it doesn't workat all.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Yeah, well, you're saying it didn't have trim.
That hop in the beginning isbecause you don't have trim.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Yeah, I don't have trim right now.
I'm about to get a rebuildRight.

Speaker 3 (33:54):
Yeah, yeah, you need to get your trim.

Speaker 4 (33:55):
Yeah, I would say 100%.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
The first thing you got to get is the trim going.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
And that, right there , will tell you where you're at,
you know with it.

Speaker 5 (34:11):
So yeah, I would definitely get your trim fixed.
Get an rpm gauge, for sure youknow, though you get a yb.

Speaker 3 (34:13):
Actually, I actually run a ybs on my prop that's what
you said.
21 pitch yeah, yeah, what wasthat?
I actually run a ybs on my 90ml.
It runs good.
I don't know if I'd race withit.
Of course I race with it.
I'm slow though.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
21 pitch yBS runs really good yeah it does, it
does.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Ybs is a good prop and I would go with a heavy.
If you go with less setback,you want a heavier jack plate.
If you go with a manual, youwant to go with more setback
because you want to use yourmotor for counterweight to lift
the bow of the boat yep, so whenyou, when you're running wide

(34:47):
open right now uh, what is my?

Speaker 5 (34:48):
you say what?
Whenever you're wide open rightnow, the way it's set up right
now and you're getting all of it, you can't out of it.
Your boat's running prettyclean.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
It ain't hop trying to hop at wide open speeds yeah,
I wait for it to plane and thenit's typically the more
throttle I give it, the less ithops.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
That's amazing yeah it, it is Jay.
I'm telling you right now Sixinches is going to be your
number on setback.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
First thing to do from the get-go, get your trim
fixed, because that will tellyou exactly where you are with
it, and then after that, I woulddefinitely get like a six-inch
jack plate, because that's goingto give you just enough
leverage to really tote it withit.

Speaker 6 (35:22):
And with it being a 90,.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
I mean, I think six inches is plenty.
Yes especially if it ain'thopping right now wide open.
Yeah, I mean, dude, I thinkyou're going to have a good
running boat.

Speaker 5 (35:32):
That's going to be a good running boat, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
Really good running rig once you get the trim fixed
and about six inches setback.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, yeah, I've had.
Yeah.
The reason I'm calling is I'vehad so many mixed opinions.
I have people saying I havesome people who are running six
inches and it's running reallygood.
Then I have other people thatsaid they've got to have at
least ten because it's not thestep, transom and whatnot, and
then I think it definitely justneeds more pitch, more prop.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yeah, just get your, get your trim the.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Thing is man, it's really hard to tell without
having the trim so that you canadjust it up and down and really
find the sweet spot in the boatyou know.
And then, past that, obviouslymore leverage is going to clean
it up more, just because it'sgoing to put the balance point
further back on your, on yoursetup.

Speaker 5 (36:21):
But I'm telling you, you really don't know nothing
until you get the trim fix it'srunning better now than I would
expect it to, really yeahhonestly, I'm surprised it's
running as good as it is withthat vans and a good prop you're
gonna and your trim working,you're gonna be a that's gonna
be a good running boat and and,but I don't mean to uh speed
things up, but we got peoplecalling in.

Speaker 1 (36:40):
Uh, I appreciate you calling um yes, sir, keep tabs
with us man, keep sending usmessages and stuff and we'll
help work, work through it withyou and also keep going too.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I mean also too, if you run a trolling motor
everything on in front of yourboat.
I was thinking about this whileI was peeing a minute ago, but
uh I mean, I do know people thatrun two inches of setback, only
90, and it does work.
But if you set the boat up forfishing you got gear in the
front deck.
You gotta throw them oneverything else.
That's when you gotta go backwith the pivot but I would say
those 90s are built though yeah,yeah, those are.
A lot of them are built that'sright, okay, you gotta keep all

(37:12):
that.
You gotta keep all that in mindwhen you start building your
boat, setting it up.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
It's horsepower versus balance point and if you
have any questions further ondude, don't.
Don't feel free to hit us up,dude yeah, you got her number.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
You can find us.
Just give us a call, we'll helpyou out, bud yes, sir, I
appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Thank you, have a good day, have a good one, have
a good day, all right, bye laterso, honestly, dude, his rig was
running, great yeah he had someproblems like oh my god

Speaker 3 (37:39):
they probably don't have anything on his front, but
you know, front deck, you knowthey probably don't, and bolted
straight to the transom, notrill.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
Let me tell you something.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
When you put a trolling motor on your front
deck and a couple graphs, oreven one graph, it makes a huge
difference in setback.
Oh, it does.
You've got to have more.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Let me explain that in a way that everybody
understands what you're sayingso say I was going to take 10
pounds, you've got a balancepoint of the boat, right, and
it's two-thirds the way back ofthe boat, right?
If I take that 10 pounds andset it directly on the front
deck of the boat or say, say Iput that 10 pounds on a bow cap,
yeah, it's just 10 pounds, butthe thing about it is that's 10

(38:17):
pounds that's further away fromthe balance point, so it's
actually probably, you know, itcould be 30, 40, 50, 60 pounds
worth of leverage leverage, yeah, that's going against the, the
balance point that makes youride up pretty yeah, so that's
more of what it's about it notnecessarily weight, it's the
weight transfer it's not the way.

(38:38):
It's where you put the weight.
I mean we.
We showed that whenever theyamahals uh wanted the weight
break, 30 pounds weight breakdidn't change nothing.
I mean heck.
We showed that whenever theYamahals wanted the weight break
30 pounds weight break itdidn't change nothing.
I mean heck, we tested that.
We put 30 more pounds in ourboat.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Put a power pole on it.
It didn't change nothing, a lotof people don't understand that
either.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
You put power poles on the back of a boat and that
weight is behind the transom,and for every inch you go past
the balance point of the boat,that five pounds turns into six.
All right, we're going to callsomebody, so we got another
caller.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
This is actually kind of good.
I think this is really good.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Oh, this is sweet.
I'm glad people are calling in.
People should start doing itlike once a week For sure.
We should have all this one.
We never would have needed to.

Speaker 5 (39:18):
People are calling in .
Got Brett Smels hitting me upon text.
Thousand questions oh yeah,Right on.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Who's this?
Do we know who we're calling?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Random it's Nathan.
Hey, nathan, you're on Off theClock with B Scott.
I got Michael Shockley, timScott and Daryl with me.
You say your name's, nathan.
Where are you calling from?

Speaker 16 (39:38):
Ball and I'll Bark and Song.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Heck yeah, that's what I'm talking about.
He's a local.

Speaker 16 (39:42):
What you got going on, man, I'm sitting here
watching Paw Patrol with thedaughters.
Man, that's one question.
Did y'all know that D was thebest athlete in the room in high
school?

Speaker 4 (39:53):
No, no, no, I didn't know that I'm not saying D.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
He's my dude, oh yeah , yeah, well, tell us about it.

Speaker 16 (40:02):
How good was he, me and D went to a couple of D1
football camps together.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
I'm sure he remembers Darryl.
You remember that.
No, you don't remember that.

Speaker 3 (40:13):
I don't remember, you don't remember going to
football camps.

Speaker 5 (40:18):
What D are you talking about?
D's nuts is probably what he'sgoing to say.

Speaker 16 (40:22):
Oh motherfucker, I'm having a hard time hearing
y'all, sorry.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Not with the kids in the house.
He's not sitting with the kids,not watching Paw Patrol.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
He wouldn't do me like that.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Man, you got.

Speaker 16 (40:34):
Havoc, or what.
I'm having a hard time hearingy'all Sorry.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
I said you want a Havoc boat or what.

Speaker 16 (40:43):
I do want a Havoc boat.
I got a five 53 BJ STC with auh ported mark on it.
I love it.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (40:52):
I bought it new from ricochet three years ago.
Oh yeah, um Vance kicking jackum digital camo.
I got the um, in my opinion,the best slot bar on the market
on it and, uh man, I love it.
I have no complaints how manyhavocs have you owned?
Oh man, uh, let's see.
I bought my first 550 havocfrom shannon nichols in 2000 oh

(41:19):
god, I was just out of highschool.
So so 2013 or 14.
I mean, it was one of the veryfirst boats he sold out of his
old shop over there on WhiteRiver.
I bought three from him, Ibought one from Cuz and this
will be my fifth one.
So, ricochet, yeah, five Habits, and what's your last name?

(41:40):
My last name's Leonard, nathanLeonard, I know who you are.
I know who you are, you knowwho he is.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Yeah, I know who he is.
Yeah, that's awesome man.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
So where are you hunting at?
Do you hunt with him shockingly, or what?

Speaker 5 (41:54):
No, I don't, I just know him from Facebook.
I think I did some dealingswith him on a motor, like a long
time ago.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Really how you meet these people it is you talk to
these people on Facebook?
It's really a small world.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Talking to them on the podcast is pretty cool.
Other than D, don't rememberthe D1 football game or the
training camp.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Yeah, I don't know, I don't know Our.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
D over here.
Don't remember that I think yougot the wrong D man.
Do you have the wrong D?
I can't hear you Sorry.
I said wrong d.
I can't hear you, sorry.
I said do you have the wrong d?
The wrong daryl moore?
I didn't know there was twodaryl moores, say that again.
I said.
I said is it you got the wrongd?

Speaker 5 (42:32):
moral, I mean yeah, yeah, I mean, are you talking
about football camp while I gowith it with d?
Yeah, we're trying to figureout who d is.
Daryaryl, daryl, daryl, don'tremember that, daryl.

Speaker 8 (42:45):
don't remember it, daryl.

Speaker 5 (42:47):
Daryl can't even throw a football.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
You sure it was me.
I mean, I went to some footballcamps, but I don't think I was
the best athlete.

Speaker 16 (42:54):
Oh shit, daryl, it was.
It was Darryl Moore, me and him.
There's a little D1 sportsfacility in Winter Rock way back
when.
When did you graduate highschool, darryl In?

Speaker 2 (43:04):
2014.

Speaker 16 (43:05):
Yeah, so you were like a freshman when I was a
senior.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
Yeah, I mean that's possible.
Well, that's why you don't knowhim.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
Darryl.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah yeah, wait what was he fast or what?
Why would you assume he's fast?

Speaker 5 (43:16):
I don't know he's fast.
I don't know, is it becausehe's black?
Oh my God, here we go.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Hey, I know his vertical is better.

Speaker 16 (43:23):
Darryl, where did you go to high school, camden,
harmony Grove right?

Speaker 2 (43:28):
Harmony Grove yeah.

Speaker 16 (43:30):
Yeah, y'all had a quarterback that graduated with
me.
That was really good.
It was you.

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Yeah, it was probably me.
Dang me on the spot.
I didn't even know what to say.
I was starting to step up.
I like that dude.
D D D.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Well, man, we appreciate you calling in.
We got people calling in askingset-up questions and stuff.
Man, but good talk to you Ifyou got any problems with your
boat.

Speaker 2 (43:51):
let us know, We'll get you right.
All right man All right bye-byeLater.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
Pretty sure that guy's an LSU fan too.
Hey, that's why I'm clickingwith.

Speaker 1 (44:03):
Daryl, I wonder what episode Paw Patrol he's on dude,
I've seen them all, me too.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
I can't believe he watches you like that man.
You don't even remember.
You should be ashamed ofyourself.

Speaker 5 (44:17):
I don't Daryl you what was your 40?

Speaker 3 (44:18):
How fast did you run 40 in?
I was like 4'5", Gosh dude.
I was like a 5'3".
So you're pretty fast 4'5".
How is you not a good athleterunning a 4'5"?

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I mean, I was a good athlete Did.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Deion Sanders run a 4'5".

Speaker 2 (44:29):
I think Deion was like 4'4", yeah, 4'3".
Well damn, daryl, I mean hey wegot a call coming in.

Speaker 1 (44:37):
I don't blame you, Daryl.
Hey what's up?
I got Michael Schock with me.
Tim Scott, daryl Moore.

Speaker 8 (44:48):
Who are you and where are you calling from?

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Conway, south Carolina.
Heck, yeah, dude, what you gotgoing on.

Speaker 3 (44:58):
What you got going on , I think there's something
wrong.

Speaker 8 (44:59):
Yes, sir B Scott, so I got what you got going on.
I think there's something wrong.
Yes, sir b scott, so I got a?
Uh 17 foot ambush with 10inches of setback, with a 90
mercury four stroke.
But I'm in the market foranother boat, uh, looking for a
havoc or a reaper.
I'm trying to figure out whichway I need to go.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Well, I could get some of your opinions what do
you do with a boat the majorityof the time?

Speaker 1 (45:19):
do you just ride the river with it, or what do you
use it for?

Speaker 8 (45:23):
Hunt fish lighter ride sometimes.

Speaker 1 (45:27):
Need a marsh runner.
I'll tell you what you need.
Dude, I mean, does he hunt?

Speaker 3 (45:30):
open water?
Or does he hunt timber?
I mean, does he come?

Speaker 5 (45:32):
to our show and hunt timber.
Are you on a bunch of stumps,or what kind of water do you run
?

Speaker 3 (45:39):
Our audio is not that good.

Speaker 8 (45:45):
Hey, can you hear us barely, man.
That's why I'm having a hardtime responding.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
You think it's our service in our building here.
Hey, we're gonna up the serviceguys, we're gonna work on that.
But so the waters you'rerunning are you running like
marshes?
What I mean?
What are you running out there?
Is it stumpy, is it?
What kind of water is it?

Speaker 8 (45:57):
nice it's.
It's pretty much clear.
I mean, we got a logs, but itain't real stuff.
Water don't run too hard unlessyou go towards like Little Pee
Dee or something.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Like when you're duck hunting and stuff, are you in
like timber, super rough water,you're in super rough water.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
You're in timber or do you need to jump stuff or do
you need to go through waves?

Speaker 8 (46:21):
So if you go down towards Georgetownorgetown, it
gets pretty rough sometimesdepending on the wind, but as
far as the river you ain't gotno rough water you want to float
the nose?

Speaker 5 (46:27):
are you yeah?

Speaker 3 (46:29):
you want to float the nose on the plug the whole time
uh no, I just want to get right.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
You just want a good running boat yeah, I mean,
that's what you want?

Speaker 2 (46:39):
you just want a good running boat.
Is that what you're looking for?

Speaker 8 (46:46):
Man, that's tough yeah man, it's a little hard.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
Since you mentioned the other boats, you did the
Ambush, you did the Reaper stuff, so obviously you stayed in
this little circle.
You need to take a look at thenew Mach 1.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
I was going to say it's a 656.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
It's a good, strong boat 586 alloy, 100-inch hull.
It has a performance cutout init.
It's one of our performanceboats Runs really well.
It will give you the ability totote the nose with the right
motor, or it took the most anymotor I don't make shit what you
put on it, uh, but it'll giveyou that effect, that feeling,
and also it also take a beatingto it and it'll still give you

(47:31):
the feel of a bigger boat youknow, the boat that you can do
uh wide drive and stuff in.

Speaker 5 (47:37):
Yeah, you can very, very stable too, yeah yeah, that
might want hard to be.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
That Mach 1's hard to beat.
Yeah, it's hard to beat.

Speaker 8 (47:44):
Well, my thing is, I was wanting like a gum box at
least, and it's like a store ofguns or paper work.
So he's done his homework, orlife jackets or something.
Yep, he's heard of the Mach 1.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
He's done his homework.
He's already called somebodyand said For what you're doing,
he already knows what he wantsbeing around rougher water
potentially.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I would definitely look at the Marsh Runner line.
I would look at.
You can't go wrong with theMarsh Runner.
I wouldn't think you would needanything out of the DBSC MSTs.
I wouldn't.
I mean you could do a DBSC, Imean it's tougher, it's not
going to tote the nose like youdo, but it's not going to
toughen those Anybody in South?

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Carolina that's tough to know does not care what he
says.

Speaker 5 (48:20):
I would say Mach 1 or even the Gen 1.
Yeah, Mach 1.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Yeah because it's going to be an I-beam rip too.
It's going to be super tough.
Now the Mach 1 is going to be astep down from the Marshawner
because it's not as built asstrong Right it is.

Speaker 5 (48:36):
But you know he's going to want to haul ass.

Speaker 6 (48:39):
I don't know nobody that wants to go slow in South
Carolina.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
So here's your answer Mach 1 or the Gen 1 Marsh
Runners.
What I would recommend, that'swhat.

Speaker 8 (48:46):
I would say yeah, how fast do y'all fellas feel a
17-foot Marsh Runner Gen 1 witha 90 Mercury?
Go with a 22-pitch turbo rightnow.
With what motor you say?

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Wait a minute, this is a trick 90 Mercury four
stroke 90 Mercury four stroke.
This is a trick he alreadyknows.
He already knows the answer.
Do you got a buddy that'srunning that or what?

Speaker 8 (49:10):
22 Turbo, 13 and a quarter, I believe, was he
running what 74?

Speaker 5 (49:16):
No, I'm going to say With what?
On the back A 90.
I?
No, I'm going to say With what?
On the back A 90.
I mean 90 Mercury 4-stroke.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
I'm going to say, I had a 115 stuck in my head.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
for some reason that was like 75.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Those guys are running like 73 miles an hour.

Speaker 5 (49:31):
I'm going to say 55 to 58.

Speaker 10 (49:36):
Okay, probably.

Speaker 8 (49:38):
I know with the same setup on the ambush foot I can't
get about 48 49 out of it.
But now it's 125 gauge boat,you'll be over that's a little
difference in the ambush.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
Ambush is a little different than that yeah see,
this is gonna be a different uhdegree hole too than an ambush
we got 14 degree holes.

Speaker 1 (49:56):
You got the cutout, so yeah, I mean, this being a
performance bow.
It's gonna give you built-insetback, which is to allow you
to clean up and run faster thanwhat you're currently riding
yeah, see so how much setbackyou got in your ambush right now
how much?

Speaker 8 (50:15):
what no?

Speaker 3 (50:16):
how much setback you got on your ambush.

Speaker 8 (50:21):
So I got a double stack.
So I got four-inch jack plateand a six-inch kick plate or
six-inch jack plate I can'tremember exactly which ones were
, but it's 10-inch, roughly 10,11 inches.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Well, you buy a Mach 1.
You get a Mach 1.
You can take one of them off.
Well, it's not even that youcan take it off.
But comparing apples to apples,if you put the same setup he
has on his ambush onto the Mach1.
It's going to really float,he's going to have like 16
inches of setback?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
No, he would, because the boat already got six 16
inches of setback on the top end.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
See, that's the difference between the Mach 1
and your ambush is, when you geton the top end, when you get on
the top of the hull, when thehull cleans up and you get on
the top, that box turns into asetback.
A lot of people don'tunderstand that.
That's the difference.
On low end it turns into a zerosetback, but on top end it
turns into a six-inch setback asit cleans up in a water column.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
And that's how that boat hauls ass.
Yep, but for what you'relooking for, dude, I would 100%
be, confident saying you wouldlike definitely the Gen 1.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Marsh Runner or the Mach 1.
That's what I would go with.
You're not going to bedisappointed.
No, it fits what you're doing.
You'll absolutely love the Mach1, though the Mach 1 is badass.
It's a 16-foot boat that haulsass.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
Yeah, I mean it's a 16-foot boat that hauls ass.
Yeah, I mean it's a nice boat.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
I love how stable it is.
It runs good with a 64-strokeall the way up to a 115.
I've seen 115s on them.

Speaker 8 (51:51):
Would it be better to get a 16-foot or a 17-foot Gen
1?

Speaker 3 (51:54):
If you like.
It depends on what kind of gearyou carry.
I mean I like a 16-foot boat,especially the Mach.
All right, we built the Mach 1like six, seven years ago.
I mean it ran so good, I meanit was just awesome.
We kind of held back on it.
But I like a 16-foot boat if Iever take a trip to the Flooded
Timber, I mean Darrell, you cantalk about it.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah, I like a 16-foot boat boat, but um, for
me that's 17 foot.
It depends what you're doing.
If I was gonna have one boatthat does everything all year
round, I'm going 17 because youcan do, you can fish out of,
have plenty of room you can haul.
Now if you're going from southcarolina, say, to artisaw, you
know you and four people can getin that boat, have plenty of
room for guns, dogs, gear.
So if I'm doing one all-aroundboat, I'm going 17 foot.

(52:36):
Yeah, because it's not.
It's not that big between 16and 17.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
It really ain't, it really is it's really not so.
I prefer a 17 foot, and they'reboth the same width.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
Yeah, so I would go 17 if it was me.
But, like I said, a Mach 1,1656, that's what I ran all last
year and I loved it too, andthat's what I'm saying.
It's really whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I would say that the 17 footer is more of like a
universal.
You can do it all in it and theMach 1 is probably a little bit
more leaning towardsperformance.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
Yeah, absolutely so.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
I think for what you're saying, you're going to
do with it, I would say honestlythe Gen 1, 1756 Marsh Runner.

Speaker 5 (53:21):
I have a buddy that just bought a marsh runner, a
gen 1, like a couple weeks agohe put a 115 on it.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
Now it's not ready for 115.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
I think he might have just put 115 stickers on it oh
whatever but I know he's runningalmost 65 miles an hour.
Yeah, yeah, and it's stablelike runs.
The main difference I mean youasked me, you asked earlier in
the conversation the differencein a good 265.
The main difference.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
I mean you asked me, you asked earlier in the
conversation the difference inReapers and everybody else.
The main difference is 14degrees.
With a cutout box, that cutoutbox is going to give you more
setback at top end speed andthat's the magic deal right
there.
Magic that's going to give youthe most speed without plowing
water.
It's set up for top end speed.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
Absolutely, absolutely.
If you got any questions, justholler back at his man.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yeah, he calls back texts back and we'll definitely
help you get set up with the rigyou're looking for.
If you have more questions, youknow.

Speaker 3 (54:10):
You can always call Michael.
You can always call MichaelShockley too.
He's available.
Yeah, michael Shockley, 24.

Speaker 5 (54:17):
My number's on the website Look it up Yep, you can
find it there and you can also,if you're in South Carolina, I'm
sure you're familiar withSouthside David.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
McGee's there.
David will help you out.

Speaker 5 (54:24):
Yeah, you definitely go holler at David Dave McGee's
like the martial arts king overthere, and even if you're closer
to Fowler, I'm sure Fowler canhook him up too.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
There ain't nobody that sells more.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
Absolutely not.
No For sure.

Speaker 8 (54:37):
Well, man, I sure do appreciate y'all answering my
phone call yeah, man, it wasawesome dude.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
All right, man, you have a good one.
Bud you too, man Later.

Speaker 7 (54:45):
Bye-bye.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
That was good.
Hey guys, I'm going to take aquick pee break.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
Y'all keep talking about setup.
Hey, if y'all have to take apee break, Well, okay, either
way guys.
I just said that.
Y'all keep talking about it.
You can't go now.

Speaker 8 (55:05):
Go, alrighty, you ready.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
Ready.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
And this is going to be a podcast you can cut up and
make shorts out of, too, begreat.

Speaker 10 (55:31):
Your call has been forwarded to voicemail the
person.

Speaker 14 (55:36):
Who's?

Speaker 1 (55:36):
going to leave a bad-ass voicemail.

Speaker 13 (55:41):
The next caller has a name of Mrs.

Speaker 14 (55:43):
Shockley.

Speaker 5 (55:45):
Are you serious?

Speaker 14 (55:46):
Oh fuck.

Speaker 5 (55:47):
Oh, this is great Mrs .

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Shockley.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
I'm here for this one , mrs Shockley.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
You want to do that one?

Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yes, alright here we go.
She's going to call us dumbdude.
She's thinking of roast, allfour of us.
Yeah, just hang up.
I got to put a dip in for this.

Speaker 5 (56:06):
Give me a dip Chalk is scared, deb, she's scared,
she's scared.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
Hello, hey, you're on Off the.

Speaker 6 (56:27):
Clock with B Scott.
Who this?
Who you call, where you callingfrom.
My name is ret g.
I have a question for michaelshockley yes, let's hear it.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
Go ahead.
Ret g what do you have?

Speaker 6 (56:34):
do you think your mod 40 is the fastest havoc out
there?

Speaker 5 (56:40):
I do not think it's the fastest out there, but I
think it's faster than most.

Speaker 9 (56:47):
What a good way to put it now.

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Let me ask you do you think he has the fastest Havoc?

Speaker 6 (56:52):
Who do you think the fastest is?

Speaker 1 (56:55):
Probably the guy sitting next to him.

Speaker 8 (56:56):
I like this kid.

Speaker 5 (56:58):
I don't know, g, who do you think the fastest is?

Speaker 6 (57:03):
I got another question okay I hear your
coaching's background what'syour question, reggie?
Do you think your mod 40 isfaster than my mom's mac one?

Speaker 1 (57:17):
absolutely.
I don't know about that.
I don't think so.
I think y'all are going to haveto line them up.
I know who looks better.

Speaker 5 (57:23):
Now it depends on if you're talking about faster on
top end or faster in 660.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
I'd rather look at the Mach 1.

Speaker 1 (57:30):
That's a way better looking setup.

Speaker 6 (57:32):
Yes On the big end is my mom's Mach 1 faster.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
On the big end.

Speaker 5 (57:40):
Why don't we talk about big end the way it's?

Speaker 3 (57:42):
set up.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
I don't know, Shavey.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Something's all about that 660.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
I would say Whitney's going to win 9 out of 10 times.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
On the big end.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Especially on the looks 9 out of 10 times.
She wins on multiple, multiplestages.

Speaker 3 (57:57):
Here Are we having a bikini contest or are we having
a speed contest?

Speaker 1 (58:02):
It don't matter, it's hard to look at Shockley I
think Whitney needs to win both.

Speaker 6 (58:08):
I think so Well, but only one way to find out.

Speaker 8 (58:13):
It's a live call out.
Are we going to go to thestudio and get called out?

Speaker 3 (58:18):
Mama won the race.
That's awesome.
That was good.

Speaker 1 (58:22):
Poor guy, dude, your fame just started and ended the
same day.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Thank you for calling in bud.
Hey, rick G, tell your mom tomake another strawberry cake.
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
Call back in a little bit longer and roast chocolate.

Speaker 6 (58:35):
You got it.

Speaker 3 (58:36):
I love those brownies , dude, that was good.
Yeah, she cooks.
Good she did.

Speaker 6 (58:41):
Bye y'all.

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Bye-bye.

Speaker 5 (58:47):
See you later.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
Unbelievable, unbelievable.
Hey, god glad I actually don'thave this number.
These people.

Speaker 13 (58:53):
Okay, this one's a wireless caller, is all it says.
This is a good one.
What?

Speaker 5 (58:56):
area code 762.
I don't even know what that is.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
That, as this is a good one.
What area code?
762.
That's Mississippi, right, oh?
My god, that might be Lucas.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
I got Michael Shockley, darylMoore and Tim Scott with me.
What?

Speaker 8 (59:11):
you got going on.
What's up, Daryl?
I was calling to ask y'all.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
I was calling to ask.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (59:20):
Sorry, you're an idiot let's call it the ask what
y'all's opinion on like when touse an outboard versus like a
gator tail during duck season?

Speaker 11 (59:34):
in like which position?

Speaker 2 (59:36):
I mean, honestly, it just depends on what you got.
I mean it don't it really.
I mean depends on where you got.
I mean it really.
I mean Depends on where youhunt.
Depends on where you hunt.
Yeah, I mean that's basicallywhat it is.
I feel like gator tail has itsbenefits.
You know, if it's low water,you can pretty much go anywhere.
But you know, a gator tail, Imean an outboard you can do the
same thing.
I mean either one can get thejob done, either one gets the

(59:58):
job done.
Now, with the Freedom you get amix of both.
That answers a lot of people'sproblems.
You can just get a Freedommotor that does both.
It's an outboard and a surfacedrive, essentially mixed in one,
unless it's extreme.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
Yeah, unless it's extreme, that extreme sticky,
nasty, beaten stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:00:15):
A lot of times we tell people the mud motors won't
do it.
A lot of times, if, if you canonly get there in a mud motor
and the whole trip is like that,like it's nothing but like
extreme, you know water, thenyou're gonna have to have a.
You know you're gonna have tohave a gator tail or mud buddy
or you know some kind of servicedriver.
But you know a lot of peoplethey only have to actually go

(01:00:37):
through, say, a small section oftheir trip.
They, they need a mud motor for, yeah, and that's kind of the
inconvenience of the wholeordeal and that's why, you know,
this past year we pushed thefreedoms, because that's a good,
I mean that's a good questionfor daryl, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
I mean, I mean thank you for asking this, but yeah,
yeah uh, how, how often do yourun your, your mud motor?
I mean, how long do you have torun it when you don't need?

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
it.
Uh, I run it a lot.
I mean, there's a lot of timeswhere I don't though.
You know, you just run in theriver.
But then there's somesituations, you know, like we go
down to, let's say, I don'tknow north louisiana or you know
south arkansas, where, like yougotta run it 100 of time.
You know, yeah, so it justdepends on where you're going.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
Yes, um and a lot of it down there in south artisaw,
as you say.
It's where we land it.
That's what I call it whenever,when we get into our hole and
land it.
Well, getting back on pad, yeah, I got you.
That's the issue with me yeah,I mean without boards.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
I think bscot made the best of.
You're gonna be doing mudmudder stuff 90 percent of time
hitting stones, jumping logs geta mud mudder you know a mud
mudder, you know 100%.
But if you're going to berunning a river 90% of the time
and just cruising down channels,what about 50-50?

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Like this customer 50-50.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
He's not sure.
If I'm 50-50, I'm probablygoing mud boat.
Honestly, yeah, if I'm 50-50.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
Because you just don't know, because strictly
hunting I'm the same way.
Yeah, it's just something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
But if you're gonna be fishing, if I'm be fishing
like, let's say, if I'm onlygonna hunt duck season, which is
20 of the year, and I'm gonnafish the other 80, I'm going
outboard.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
I got you see, that's a valid point too so this
customer probably 50, 50 yeah ifhe's 50, 50 he should, he
should go mud motor yeah, areyou talking about just hunting?

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
are you gonna be running sandbars and fishing?

Speaker 13 (01:02:18):
hello you're asking again it's pagan years you're
asking me yeah, yeah yeah, Ijust hunt the timber um, so if
you're just just on timber.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Yeah, just on timber, I'd get it.
I'll work.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Yeah, I'll work yeah, because you want to deal with
the tiller torrent.
If you're not sure about it,get a freedom yeah I mean to be
honest with you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
I mean the freedom stuff's like smack dab in the
middle.
I love the freedom in thetimber, yeah, I mean that's
what's freedom's for.

Speaker 11 (01:02:45):
Well, hey man, I appreciate it.
I gotta go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Thank y'all all right , sir, have a good one, bye now,
I respect that short, sweet gota damn answer.

Speaker 6 (01:02:55):
He got to check time, yeah, time check out here break
time.

Speaker 8 (01:02:57):
Yeah, that's it, he's like hey, he.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
He just want to get famous.

Speaker 1 (01:03:00):
But you know a lot of people a lot of people, though,
ask that question.
Yeah, it's such a hard questionbecause, like, because you're
spending so much money on it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
He left it so open though.
Yeah, like, what are you goingto be doing?
Are you hunting error?
But the problem is there is alot of people like that that
don't know.
Yeah, I mean, it's a goodquestion.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Yeah, that helped somebody that's watching this
yeah, for sure I would think for50 50.
I agree with daryl a lot.
I do too.
If you're 50 50 you go with themud motor because then you got
the whole field covered.

Speaker 5 (01:03:33):
Yeah, yeah yeah, you know, now you're going to deal.
I've done everything with a mudmotor.
I've ran yo-yos with a mudmotor.
Oh, oh yeah, I've done that.
Now it sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
It sucks doing the stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
You don't need a mud motor for with a mud motor, I
can tell you like a 40-minuteboat ride with a mud motor does
suck.
I don't care what nobody says.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
That's why all my mud motors were built with turbos.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
That way you're not running 28.
If you're just hunting floodedtimber, I would go outboard and
if you're not 100% sure.
With outboard I mean floodedtimber.
Get a freedom Perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Perfect.
Alright, we're going to callsomebody who we got.

Speaker 11 (01:04:13):
Robin Swim has been forwarded to voice now.

Speaker 13 (01:04:17):
The person you're trying to reach is gone.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
Alright, are we been forwarded to voice?
Now the person you're trying toreach is gone.
Hold on, go ahead.
Are we calling again?
Stewart webb stewart more time.
He's called back.
Let's do it.
He called back.

Speaker 7 (01:04:29):
He called back your call has been forwarded to an
automatic voice message.

Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
Uh-oh, you're going to call him back.

Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
This is the hard part on this getting everybody in
Phone tag.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
But I'll be honest with you, though it gives us
good time to sit and talk abouteach situation after, though I
like it.

Speaker 8 (01:04:50):
I like the way it's set up.

Speaker 9 (01:04:51):
How about Brent Sims?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Brent Sims.
Brent Sims, let's talk to BrentSims.

Speaker 4 (01:04:57):
Let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
We haven't got very much hate yet, though you know.

Speaker 5 (01:05:03):
I don't know.
Rhett G was kind of hateful who.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Rhett, rhett to you, hello.
You're on Off the Cockle BScott With me.
I got Michael Shockley, timScott and Daryl Moore who?

Speaker 15 (01:05:15):
are you and where are you calling from?
Yes, sir man, I'm Brent Sims.
I'm from Arkansas, actually atBeebe, Not too far.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
Oh heck, yeah man what you got going on.

Speaker 15 (01:05:24):
Man, is that like me ?

Speaker 3 (01:05:25):
You building houses, dude, or what?

Speaker 15 (01:05:27):
Let me nail that off real quick.
Sorry about that, hey thatsounds like a.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
Are you at Tim's house, Dude are you working?
That's awesome, dude.
He's a frame-er.

Speaker 15 (01:05:40):
Sorry about that man .
I was kind of writing acompliment.

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
No, dude, it's okay, man, we love it.
Dude, we love it.
Man, you're running, no good.

Speaker 15 (01:05:46):
So I just picked up a new boat man.
I'm kind of new to the duckboat scene.
My last duck boat was a DagonWar Eagle with a .25.

Speaker 6 (01:05:54):
Are you a guy?
No, so.

Speaker 15 (01:05:55):
I decided.
I was going to get a new boatand I was like man, I got to get
the baddest one I can get.
So I bought a 24RDB ST.
That's a bad one.
Got it from Will over atRicochet.
Yeah, he's a good dealer.
So trying to get it set up rightnow I'm having a little problem
with it hopping.
The setup on it right now is astock 59cc mark mark, that's an

(01:06:20):
04 mark.
Uh, it's got an oiler delete onit.
You know, um, it's got a 16pitch ybs on it and I've got a,
uh, six inch vent or a circle skick jack on it, kick plate word
, um.
And I've got it set up wherethe man, the cab, plates,
probably right at the plug ormaybe just a cut here above the
plug.
Um rides good until I starttrimming up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
It wants to start doing a little hopping on me you
probably don't have enough rpmsfor that 16 pitch prop do what
you probably don't have enoughuh rpms for the 16 prop what
size was?

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
it I'm sorry, do what .
You probably don't have therpms for that 16 pitch uh, prop,
yeah, um, because it's a stockMerc, right, yeah, and what size
boat did you say it was?

Speaker 15 (01:07:05):
Yeah, so it's stock for now.
It's getting ready to go toWestbrook here in a few months
and I'm going to do a 130 huntport on it.
That'll help.
That's the plan Either the 130or the 150 custom sleeve.
I'm kind of torn on which way Iwant to go on it yet.

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
Josh is super good building his motors.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Yeah you're going to get a pretty stout one Go 150.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
But what I'm hearing right now, the 16 pitch is too
much for it until the motor goesto Josh.

Speaker 5 (01:07:31):
And that jack plate a lighter jack plate too.
Yeah, you need a little heavierjack plate.

Speaker 15 (01:07:36):
Yeah, I, yeah, I've got a Bob's kicking jack on the
way.
That'll change the game.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
I think that'll help a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:07:42):
yeah, that's going to add a little bit of weight to
your.
It's going to show a littlemore weight to the back to help
your motor out until Josh getshis hands on it.
But right now the 16 is toomuch.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
Yep, I got you After Josh works his magic.

Speaker 15 (01:07:55):
I had a.
There was a 15-pitch what wasit?
A Power.
There was a 15-pitch what wasit?
A Powertech on it and it wasdoing the same thing.
I just wasn't getting no speedout of me, that dagging prop.
I was hitting 36 as I wasgetting out of that boat.

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
I would look for a turbo, or I would look for an
Invenience.
You know, I got you.

Speaker 15 (01:08:10):
A Browning Silver something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Yeah, I would stay away from those props and stay
away from the semi-cleaver.
You know the ybs is until untilyou get your motor got you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
Is that a 553?
Yes, sir, yes, and it said itwas a 24, so it was the last one
.

Speaker 15 (01:08:25):
It's a non-foam boat .
Yeah, nice, that was prettypretty you better hang on.
I bet the last one we'll hadthat didn't have foam in it, so
there ain't very many of those,no, you definitely slid in there
at the right time, for sure theI

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
think the bobs is going to help you out more than
anything.
Yeah, it's gonna end that prop.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
It's gonna add some weight to the back and help with
your balance point.
It's gonna move it further backand help stable the.
You know, stabilize the nose alittle bit when you're driving.

Speaker 5 (01:08:51):
And if westbrook's gonna build your motor, tell him
let you try some differentprops.
He's got a bunch of them.

Speaker 3 (01:08:55):
Yeah, josh has plenty of props.
Don't let him.

Speaker 15 (01:08:57):
Uh, yeah, don't let, yeah, yeah, yeah, I talked to
him that's the reason I wentwith the 16 while he said man,
as soon as you get it built,that's the prop you're gonna
want it is, so I went ahead andgrabbed it because I say it's
going to.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
It's going to westbrook within the next couple
months oh yeah, you picked agood motor builder man, you
picked a good.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
Not only that, but you got the right stuff coming
into play here to have a reallygood run of both yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:16):
Yeah, he's anal about his motor, so he's going to do
good yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:09:19):
I looked out because you know his shop is right
there in Beavey so he's likefive minutes from my house, so
it's going to be easy to get inthere.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
And he's straight up too.
He won't bullshit you.
Oh yeah, yeah Well man, Iappreciate you sir, yes sir.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
You have a good day, you too, bud.

Speaker 3 (01:09:42):
All he's going to have a good run of both.

Speaker 5 (01:09:43):
It's awesome seeing people like Josh Bracebrook,
step up and build these motorsfor people.
Oh yeah, do it right, you know,and clean.

Speaker 3 (01:09:47):
He's always been really really fast, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
Yeah, Well he's one of the guys that really just
bought into it.
He's an original Back in theday he is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
He's original for sure.
There's a lot of fakes outthere.
He ain't one of them.

Speaker 5 (01:10:01):
I mean until Haley came along.
I thought he was gay for thelongest, haley, no, I thought
Josh was before she came along,he always wore those damn
spinnerbait pants.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
You know what those are.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Spinnerbait pants, what?

Speaker 3 (01:10:13):
is that you don't know what spinnerbait pants are.
Bedazzled.
He likes to wear all that fancystuff on his back pockets,
those fancy pants.

Speaker 1 (01:10:21):
He got like the show pants.
What are those called.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
Bling, bling.
Josh is one of the few thatI've never got into it with, and
I've liked him from the get go.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
Ashley says Josh Westbrook looks better when he's
fatter.
Well, that's just becauseyou're fat and she likes you I
think so Probably.

Speaker 5 (01:10:36):
What else does Tim?

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
have Love handles.
No, we ain't going to do that.

Speaker 7 (01:10:41):
Hey, my son will tell you my son will tell you my
three-year-old grandson is wrong.

Speaker 3 (01:10:49):
Let's leave that off.
Cut, cut, I'll pay everybodyCut.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Oh man, we got any more missed calls coming in, or
what?

Speaker 5 (01:10:58):
Nothing.
Are we all caught up?
What about Daniel Simpson?
Are we going to call him backagain, man?

Speaker 3 (01:11:01):
I need to take a piss before that gets on.
That's going to be a hoot.

Speaker 1 (01:11:03):
Yeah, I know I know, can we go to commercial break
guys?
We want to thank our sponsorsand everybody that made this
happen.
Don't forget to check out ourgear shop.
We got tons of new merch onthere and we're going.
We'll be back, good.
There we go, we're getting acall.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Did I call you hey?

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
what's going on?
You're on Off the Clock withBeast Guy.
I got Michael Shockley, darylMoore and Tim Scott with me.

Speaker 13 (01:11:32):
How are you doing?
All right, man, how's it going?

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Oh, it sounds like Nick.
It is Nick.
Is this Quick Nick?
We're talking to.

Speaker 13 (01:11:38):
This is Quick Nick.
It Is this Quick Nick we'retalking to.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
This is Quick Nick, it's ex-Quick Nick.
He don't drive no more.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
No, I talked to his wife last night.

Speaker 1 (01:11:46):
He's still Quick, nick.
What you been up to, man.
You been staying busy.

Speaker 13 (01:11:51):
Yeah, we've been busy Just working rigging boats
man.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
That's right.

Speaker 13 (01:11:56):
Been setting them up , oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
We've been sailing quite a few.
What, uh what's the most?
Boats, like most of one modelboats that you, that you start
setting up, that you see comethrough.

Speaker 13 (01:12:06):
People need help setting up uh, it's gonna be the
vjs man that's uh, especiallyhere lately.
Uh, because you know a lot ofthis social media stuff and
floating the nose and everything.
Everybody thinks it's cool tofloat the nose but they
definitely.
You have to do a lot moresetting up on a VJ to try to get

(01:12:29):
it to do that and it justwasn't built for that.

Speaker 3 (01:12:32):
Why?
I mean why they wanted to buy aVJ.

Speaker 13 (01:12:37):
Do what now?

Speaker 3 (01:12:38):
How come they wanted to buy a VJ?
Because it's cheap, becauseit's cheap, because it's cheap.
That's what I think.
Yeah, it was the two thousanddollars cheaper than rdbst.
Yeah, and they're gonna spendthat and set up.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Well, they're gonna spend two thousand dollars on
jet play that's 100 right, youknow, it's almost like they
almost cut the corner on themodel they get and then try to
achieve what the rdbs can.
The mod 40s can get way easier,you know, and spend more money
and set up anything but to theirdefense, it is hard to find a
mod 40, see.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
Now, that's a good point too well, I mean you got
rdbs teas everywhere yeah webuild rdbs yeah, once a month
what's your go-to setup for?

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
uh say, somebody brought you nick a 1653 vjst,
had a uh 50 horsepower, fourstroke on it.
What's your go-to where?

Speaker 13 (01:13:31):
do you?
I mean the.
The ideal setup will be a 10inch you know bob's jack plate.
Uh, depending on what they're,you know, if they're all they're
worried about is speed andthey're trying to get the most
out of the boat, the only way toachieve that is with like a
heavy 10-inch jack plate setup.

(01:13:53):
Right, that's correct.
The only issue that I've seenthat what we've ran into,
especially here lately, is a lotof people like the six-inch
bulbs for the kick you know thekick and jack and when they come
to buy the boat and you go overeverything on the boat and what

(01:14:16):
they're going to do with it,just say, hey, I want a stable
platform for hunting and fishingand this is what I'm not.
I'm not really concerned aboutspeed.
That's why I bought a 50 totsor a 40 tots, right.
And then what happens is, youknow, they go to the sandbar and
now all the sudden their buddyhas a mod 40 and they're

(01:14:41):
wondering why, what you know,why I can't trim out like he can
or what you know yeah, butthere's a three thousand dollars
difference between the twotheir priority.
Their priorities seem to shift.
It's, it's like seasonal, youknow it's.
It's they like that good, theylike that six inches of setback
during hunting season and it'sgood and stable and everything.
But then, as their the seasonschange, their priorities change.

(01:15:04):
Now they want their boat to dosomething else, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
I bet you what's happening that I hadn't even
realized might be happening is,I bet you the VJST, like the VJ
Series boats, is a good, greatstarter package rig and it gets
them into kind of the community,the duck boat community.
You know they go to thesesandbars, they're hanging out
with other people that have duckboats and stuff.

(01:15:27):
Then they start seeing whatother boats are doing and they
try to go after that with whatthey have currently.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
I'm confused on why people think performance come
with a cheaper price.
I don't know.
I mean, when I buy something Ialways like, if I want the
premium product you spend themoney.

Speaker 13 (01:15:43):
It's kind of money yeah you know, why is?

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
it why is people trying to buy vjs and try to
talk to those with them?

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
daryl, just want to save some money, man but they're
not.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
I know they're not, I think I think what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
They go in a dealership and they see like,
let's say, prince, they go up tonick's place, right, and they
go to west formers.
And they see like, let's say,for instance, they go up to
Nick's place, right, and they goto the West Formers and they
say, hey, I want a boat.
They tell them, hey, there's aprice for this boat, there's a
price for that.

Speaker 5 (01:16:12):
And they be like oh, I can save $3,000 here, I'm just
going to get that, that's a lot.
But they don't realize that youhole's got a different degree
hole.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
I think it's our fault that we don't tell people
more about the RDBST.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
And more about the setup and the difference between
them and the degrees.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
I mean, they're just totally like 14 and 8 is a big
difference, and it might be aproblem too, that our VJs are
such a good boat.
It is a good boat, it's acheaper model that's built out
of 586 alloy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:39):
Yeah, it's a cheaper model that's built out of 586
alloy.
Yeah, I mean come on, a lot ofthese custom boat builders out
there charge thousands ofdollars for 586.
Nobody else does it.
It's an upgrade, it's ourstandard material.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Right, so yeah, so I think we're all learning and I
think that it is mostly ourfault, but I think that they
hear that the VJSTs are lighterand they assume that the VJSTs
are lighter and they assume thatlighter means faster.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
No way and it's not the case, and I tell customers
on the daily that don't want tospend the money on like a
10-inch Bob's, they've alreadygot a Vance or a 6-inch.
That's true.
Buy 4-inch setback plates.
Put the plates on the boat.
That way your jack platesfurther back.
It's more weight transfer.

Speaker 3 (01:17:19):
More weight.
You don't have to buy another10-inch set, unless it's a super
wide jack plate though A14-and-a-half-inch jack plate.
The water comes off that box,especially if it's an RDBST.
It comes off that box and hitsthat jack plate.

Speaker 5 (01:17:31):
No, I'm talking about starting out with a 6 and then
put 4 on it to give them 10.
You don't have to spend extramoney to go buy a 10-inch jack
plate if you got a 6 already.
You can put four-inch blocks onit.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
So, Nick, are you seeing all this stuff too?
Is customers confused aboutwhat to put on their boats?

Speaker 13 (01:17:53):
Yeah, I mean there's a beauty to having different
models because you can reachmore people, but at the same
time it's like the same thing.
I'm doing this target archerystuff and I go Thursday nights
and I'm shooting against guyswith big fat shaft arrows and
magnification and everything andI'm at a disadvantage because

(01:18:19):
they bought a tool that performsbetter at that particular thing
.

Speaker 3 (01:18:23):
Right, have you ordered yours yet?
I'll save my $9,000.

Speaker 13 (01:18:26):
It's the same.

Speaker 10 (01:18:28):
Go ahead.

Speaker 13 (01:18:29):
It's the same.
I mean, you know, if you'rewanting to float the nose, you
know, the RDBST or the MarshRunner, Mach 1 or the, or the
mob, that is the hole to do thatwith it's going to be the most
efficient hole hole too.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
You know, that's the thing you don't want to bury the
transom in the water I think ifwe can just do a better job
directing people on what modelsuits them better from the
get-go, I think it'll definitelyhelp a lot of people out.

Speaker 5 (01:19:02):
We can explain it to them.
And here lately I have beengetting a lot of calls about
that.
Hey, what model do you think Ineed?

Speaker 3 (01:19:08):
Because there's so many, Like we did a while ago.
You guys realize we get 40, 50new customers every week.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
Yeah we get 40, 50 new phone calls a day too, and
Nick I hate to cut you off, man.

Speaker 1 (01:19:17):
We got our phone blowing up.
People are asking setupquestions, man, For you guys
that have any questions.
You can also hit Nick West up.
He's a setup specialist.
Right, this guy knows his stuff.
He does so, nick.
Thank you for calling, man.
It was good talking to you.
I love calling.
We're going to keep takingcalls.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
Just answer the one that's calling right now.
See who it is.

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
Can I pee this is we can't know.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
If you want to, can I pee no?

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
I got to pee really bad, can we pee?

Speaker 5 (01:19:47):
for real.
Can we get some hoses and somefunnels just over here, Dude?
We need some urinals up inthere here dude Answer.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
then go pee.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
All right, let's do one more call and let's hit him

Speaker 2 (01:19:59):
up, it's gotta be soon.

Speaker 4 (01:20:00):
Who is?

Speaker 8 (01:20:00):
this John Malik.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Match it.
Match it, my tea.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
I got Michael Shockley with me,daryl Moore and Tim Scott.
Who are you and where are youcalling from?

Speaker 14 (01:20:19):
Landry Matchett calling from currently in Austin
, Texas, Austin.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Texas.
So what you got going on man,you going to have it.

Speaker 14 (01:20:27):
Yeah, so I bought one back in late February, early
March first time, and I boughtthe 1756 MSTC 1756 MSTC.
All right I put a 60 to Hatsuon.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
Why did you just asking why did you buy a 1756
MSTC with a 60 to Hatsu Do what?
How can we buy that combinationof both?
Why didn't you buy a DBST?

Speaker 14 (01:20:58):
So I originally went in and when I went to the
dealer I priced out the DBST andby the time I got back to the
dealer he didn't have that oneanymore, but he had the MSTC
there, so I went with it.
Okay, I got you.
I got you.

Speaker 3 (01:21:15):
Makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:21:15):
I got you.
It's the same hole, except forthe ribs, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:21:18):
Well, it's also the way we weld the transom too.
It's different.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Does it have the inverted ribs?
No, it'll have inverted keelsWell go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Inverted keels, sorry .
Go ahead with your question.

Speaker 14 (01:21:34):
What you got going on, man.
So I was just curious on thatone.
I don't know.
I've got the aluminum prop thatcame on it right, it did fine
and I hit a little sand with itand kind of pulled up the edges
of it.
But I mean, other than thatI've been very, very well
pleased with the boat.
But it's my first time in anykind of bigger aluminum boat, I

(01:21:58):
guess.
Yes sir, yes sir, and that'sgood.

Speaker 5 (01:22:02):
You'll like it a lot more when you get you a
stainless steel prop on theretoo.
Yeah, we'll definitely get astainless steel prop.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
What pitch prop do you guys recommend?

Speaker 5 (01:22:11):
We have 15 pitch all day long.
Oh yeah, for that big of a boat15.

Speaker 14 (01:22:15):
Yeah, it came with an 11 by 16 on it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Well, the aluminum prop is going to be a little
lighter prop so you can spin itwith a higher pitch.
The stainless is a littleheavier prop, so you've got to
keep that in mind.
We could tend to spin a heavieraluminum prop, a bigger pitch
aluminum prop, because it's justa lighter prop itself.

Speaker 5 (01:22:33):
Yeah, the material itself is lighter, but it flexes
.
It does flex.
Don't think you're going tolose speed going back to a 15
stainless because it does flex.
Don't think you're going tolose speed going back to a 15
stainless, because you'reprobably not.
You might actually even gain.

Speaker 3 (01:22:44):
It's true, yeah, yeah .
So I would go with a good15-pitch stainless steel prop.

Speaker 1 (01:22:52):
What about setback?
What are you running on thatboat, setback-wise?

Speaker 14 (01:22:55):
I'm running a 6-inch .
Bob's kicking jack on it.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:04):
That's all he's going to be able to get out of that
boat.
Yeah, that's what you get.
You got the right setup.
Yeah, that's right.
So I think that definitely.

Speaker 3 (01:23:08):
You know you go and get a stainless prop.
I think you'd be good.
Yeah, I mean unless you come inother problems.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
But other than that, the props is the situation I see
and especially if you're, ifyou're happy with the way it's
running.
I mean with that.

Speaker 5 (01:23:19):
if you're happy with the way it's running with that
prop, you're really going to behappy with the way it runs With
a stainless.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
yeah, yeah, get you a Turbo 15 or even a YBS 15 would
be awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
It would be great for it.

Speaker 14 (01:23:33):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:23:34):
All right, man.
Well, hey, if you've got anymore questions, I appreciate you
calling and if you need morehelp, also always setting up
your boat, you can always reachout to us.
Texas, call us whatever manMichael Shockley.
His number's on the website andyou can get a hold of him.
He'd be more than happy to helpyou.

Speaker 14 (01:23:51):
I really appreciate it.
No problem thanks for callingsir, you have a great day you
too, thank you, yeah, bye, byeyeah, he'll like that stainless
prop oh for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
I already lost his boat.

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
You know what's crazy .
He liked it with that prop.

Speaker 3 (01:24:06):
You know what's crazy though it's like you realize.
You know that's what this is.
I know what you're gonna say.
We're always focused around thehate, you know there's a lot of
guys just don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
There's a lot of guys who just don't know they don't
care I feel like an asshole.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Well, you are an asshole.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
You're always bitching about people hating on
us, dude.
It's like not everybody hateson us.
We got some guys that actuallyenjoy their boats.
Have y'all noticed that?

Speaker 5 (01:24:30):
no, haters is called, though I know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
You know why?
No haters are Boom, I'm abadass, I know their next excuse
is going to be they're going tosay we did it while they were
working.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
Oh, good God, it's okay, we're going to do one at 7
o'clock at night.

Speaker 3 (01:24:47):
Nobody works at that time We'll do one tonight we're
at work.

Speaker 14 (01:24:51):
Yeah, we're at work.

Speaker 3 (01:24:52):
Yeah well, that's what we do for a living,
shockley.

Speaker 10 (01:24:55):
Wireless caller here we come.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
I would love some more ice in my drink, though I
got sniffle every time it startsringing.
I don't want to sniffle in themic because that's annoying.

Speaker 5 (01:25:06):
I blink a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
Yeah, sir, blinks a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
Hello.
Hey, you're on Off the Clockwith B Scott.
I got Michael Shockley, darylMoore and Tim Scott.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Really.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
What's your name and where are you calling from?

Speaker 12 (01:25:22):
Hey, I'm Joe.
I'm calling from Nashville,nashville.

Speaker 3 (01:25:25):
Nashville, Arkansas or Tennessee.

Speaker 12 (01:25:27):
Nope, nashville Tennessee.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
You been on Broadway lately.
Heck, yeah, he didn't hear you.

Speaker 3 (01:25:33):
He probably don't miss a Broadway.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Hey you been on.

Speaker 2 (01:25:35):
Broadway lately.

Speaker 12 (01:25:37):
I'm sorry, I can't hear you guys too well.
What did you say?
I apologize.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
I said have you been on Broadway lately?

Speaker 12 (01:25:42):
Oh man, I try to stay far away from there.
It's fun every once in a while,but that wears off pretty
quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
Oh, I guarantee it, man Do you own a Havoc.

Speaker 12 (01:25:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have a 2021 VJ 1550.
Absolutely love it.
I have a stock 59 CI on theback of it with a Bob's kicking
jack.
Yeah, I absolutely love it.
I mean, I've thought aboutgetting a new Havoc, but, man,

(01:26:13):
I've put that boat through helland back and she never lets me
down.
And yeah, I don't have to worryabout beating her up.
I can hunt her hard and, yeah,it's not not the prettiest rig,
but she definitely gets the jobdone that's awesome, man, so do
is.

Speaker 1 (01:26:26):
All you do with it is just hunt out of it.
Do you ride river with it?
Sandbar?

Speaker 12 (01:26:30):
no, I definitely.
Yeah, I ride the sandbar on itand then I throw a trolling
motor on there.
Uh, probably about you know,around february for for crappie
fishing and just to uh and justuh, just to fish.
You know, around february forfor crappie fishing and just to
uh and just uh, just to fish.
You know I don't I like to fishfor fun, but that's just about
it.
But yeah, I mean it.

Speaker 5 (01:26:46):
It does everything I I needed to do the the rest of
the year so you hunt, fishsandbar, beat on it everything
you can imagine on a vj hole,right?
I'm sorry say that again.
I I said so you fish yousandbar, you hunt, you beat on
it on a VJ, yep, on a VJ hole.
What do you like about the VJ?

(01:27:07):
That's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:27:08):
What do you like about the VJ STC?

Speaker 12 (01:27:12):
What I like about it .
Have you had other models.

Speaker 3 (01:27:15):
Have you had other models?

Speaker 12 (01:27:17):
No, I haven't had the other models want to say
really the.
The biggest thing I like aboutthe vj is like the price point
right, like you get into a havocfor a for a good price and
you're going to get the samequality as a havoc um that you
would with the other model.
You know you're not sacrificingquality but you just don't have
all the bells and whistles, um.
And for a guy like me, you know, I just I'm, I'm originally

(01:27:40):
from from Jersey, moved down toTennessee a couple of years ago
and you know, just really gotinto duck hunting the past two
years.
So you know I didn't needsomething super fancy.
I also didn't need somethingthat was going to break the bank
, you know.
So it really it does.
It does everything I needed todo and I think that it's a, it

(01:28:01):
was a, it was a good transitioninto, like you know, in the duck
boats and just tiller boats ingeneral.
It was a good jumping off pointthat's good.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
That's good, it is good, it's.
Yes, I'm glad to hear thatyou're definitely a good caller.
Yeah, I mean, you're one of thebest cars we have all day.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
You make sense yeah, that's awesome man, I'm glad to
hear.
Do you have any questions oranything like that about you
know, setup or anything?

Speaker 12 (01:28:23):
Yeah, I mean really I would say, like, when it comes
to, like, when it comes to, Ireally have two questions.
And you know I know less aboutmotors.
But like, how do you think it'dbe, would I get a significant
improvement for you knowshelling out some money again
maybe like a hunt poor you knowhunt poor build onto my motor?

(01:28:44):
Um, and then, just like youknow prop recommendations, I was
, uh, I was hunting down inarkansas and chewed through a
prop so I just I had to make alast minute pit stop and now I
just have like a 15 pitch powertech on there.
Um, I kind of just had to buyin the moment needed something
to hunt with.
But yeah, I mean I guess thoseare kind of my two questions,

(01:29:05):
like you know proprecommendations.
And then, do you think it wouldbe it'd be worth it for you
know to to look into like a huntport build?

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
well, my opinion.
I, I go, my opinion.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
I know I'm looking Me and Tim's going to have the
same opinion, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:20):
My opinion and I'll let Shockley say something next
but absolutely get the motorbuilt, but you need to go with
the right setback and you needto go with the right prop and
the right builder the rightbuilder of course.
Definitely a lot of it.
But don't you know, once youget your motor built, you need
to work on getting your boatbalanced, and that's the key is

(01:29:42):
getting your boat balanced.
Once you get your boat balancedyou can put the power to the
prop and then you can pick prop.
But you know you can't go wrongwith a 16 YBS for hunting the
woods.
Turbos are good, visions aregood, but the most important
part is get a builder to buildyour motor, balance your boat,

(01:30:04):
then pick the prop.
What are you gonna say?

Speaker 5 (01:30:06):
chocolate.
No, I agree with that 100.
Once you have your motor built,you're gonna have to have a new
prop anyway.
Yeah, what I tell people everyday is everybody's got buddies,
it's got props run.
Pick your buddies props, figureout which out, which one you
need, which one runs best, andthen buy one.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
And if you can't I mean what I used to do when I
first got my motor built is Iwould get on Facebook and just
ask people hey, I live in thisarea, I just got a motor built.
I don't want to buy one.
Does anybody want to meet me atthe river?

Speaker 12 (01:30:34):
Let me try them A lot of guys will.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
They'll put the prop on once you run it real quick
before you spend money.
So that's also another thing.

Speaker 5 (01:30:40):
But as far as the motor build, absolutely build
your motor.

Speaker 3 (01:30:43):
I mean, you've got some good builders out there,
you've got Quentin Cuzzoutboards.

Speaker 12 (01:30:48):
Westbrook.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
Westbrook Frank.
Frank West I mean you've got alot of good boat builders, a lot
of really really here buildingmotors.
Uh, you can go back on youtubewatch the races.
You can see, uh, kind of whatwe're talking about yep, okay,

(01:31:11):
awesome.

Speaker 12 (01:31:11):
I guess.
Another question too is likeand this might have been asked
already, but like are you so the?
Are you guys seeing a bigdifference between like the.83
lowers versus the 2.1 lowers?
Is that really just going tohelp with hole shot?

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
That depends, yes, but that depends on what you're
going to be doing with it Inyour RPM range.
Are you racing, are you justhunting it?

Speaker 12 (01:31:34):
I'd definitely like to do a little bit of boat
racing.
I don't get too too crazy aboutit, Unless you're going to get.

Speaker 2 (01:31:38):
We're racing like on the like in the sandbar race,
not like in the woods racing.

Speaker 5 (01:31:42):
I would stay away from the big years yeah, I
wouldn't, for what it soundslike to me what you do with it,
I would stay with the 183s, yeahI would too, I wouldn't, I
wouldn't mess with the big years, um, and if you do any messing
around, just mess with props.
Yeah okay, I mean probably theprop game is big.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
And then I mean, once you get past that, you're
already you know, you're alreadylooking into, you know some of
our performance holes.
Past that you know you'relooking in.
Like the mod 40.
I mean, if you want to takeracing serious, you know you
will graduate from the, the 1550vj up to like a mod 40 or a
mock one or something we buildthat has, you know, uh, 14

(01:32:20):
degree bottom with a built-insetback that will make it easier
and more efficient on the waterfor speed.

Speaker 5 (01:32:28):
I like what he's talking about racing.
I think he's talking about the4 o'clock races.

Speaker 2 (01:32:31):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying the 100 races.

Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Yeah, he wants to get a hole, guys, he don't need a
2-0.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
VJ will get down on turns.
Yeah, that's where it's allabout in the racing.

Speaker 12 (01:32:44):
Yeah, woods yeah, that's a good call.
I think that you're talkingabout the advantages of the vj
too.
I feel like you know that youknow driving a for someone that
doesn't have.
I mean, I haven't experienceddriving bass boats, things like
that.
Still, driving a teller is awhole nother story.
So I mean, before you, I thinkyou know something for me is
like I want to get reallycomfortable.
You know driving that boatbefore I, before I, you know,

(01:33:04):
looked at the dbsts are reallywanting to get crazy, building
the motors and stuff, becauseyou know it's uh, you know I'm
putting my life at risk and youknow, if I'm not, if I'm not
being safe, I'm also puttingother people's lives it doesn't
get.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
It doesn't get hairy to actually get past.
I mean, dbsts are pretty stable, you know pretty calm, yeah,
you start getting into reallyfast boats and then you get to
the mod 40s and the RDBSTs.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
I mean, I think if performance is what you're after
because I haven't heard youreally mention durability as far
as like jumping stuff, likeneeding a heavy-duty boat so for
what you're talking about, Iwould probably avoid going the
DBST route.

Speaker 5 (01:33:42):
If you're talking about performance, I would go
later down the line.

Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
I would either go with the VJ and then later down
the road, start transitioning tomaybe a Mod 40 or something or
RDBST.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
So basically it goes, vj is going to be the entry
level.
Then you've got DBSTs, you'vegot the RDDBSTs and you've got
the Mod 40s.
Then you've really wanted bigboats, fast speeds.
You go to the Marsh Runners.

Speaker 6 (01:34:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:34:09):
That's how it's going to work.

Speaker 12 (01:34:12):
Awesome.
Well, I really appreciate youguys.
I was just sitting herescrolling on Facebook and saw
you guys on it Awesome, it wastheir outlaw page and I was like
you know what Awesome I'mstepping.
I'm stepping out of the officereal quick.
I'm tore up about well, man,I'm glad to work about some duck
hunting again and I was likeman, it's worth the call.

Speaker 1 (01:34:28):
I'm glad to hear it, man.
Hope you have a good.
Did you get it?
Hey, what's on?
You're on off the clock with bscott.
I got michael shopper with me,daryl moore and tim scott.
Who are you?
Where you from?

Speaker 13 (01:34:50):
hello, oh god what you doing man yo, this is
clinton, what y'all up to.
Oh my god, yo, this is.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Quentin.
What y'all up to.
Oh my God, what's up, Quentin?

Speaker 3 (01:35:02):
Sounded like you was in a hurricane there for a
second, hey Shockley says oh myGod, I'm like who is it?
It has to be Quentin.
Yeah, he was texting me?

Speaker 5 (01:35:09):
Oh, was he texting you?
He said I just called threetimes what y'all doing.

Speaker 1 (01:35:15):
You didn't tell us I man, you've been staying busy,
or what man y'all are hard tohear I know it man, everybody's
everybody said that you know,daniel and dave's gonna step the
game up back we got crickettoday, we'll have 18, yeah, yeah
we right now.
We've made about 17 dollarswith the podcast, so we're gonna
start up.
You know, we'll probably put atower up in the back here for
long damn, I can't hear shity'all are saying, are you?

Speaker 3 (01:35:41):
serious.
I wonder what the deal is.
You think it's a service.
Last guy, like he could hear us.
Quentin's probably just deafQuentin races all the time he
can't hear shit.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
No, he can't hear shit.
Quentin, can you hear us?

Speaker 8 (01:35:55):
it sounds like you're about 100 yards away from the
phone.

Speaker 3 (01:36:00):
I feel like I'm deep throatthroating this damn mic.
I almost took a picture while Igo.

Speaker 1 (01:36:04):
Really he's up in that thing, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Well, Quentin, what are you doing?
What boat do?

Speaker 5 (01:36:12):
you run, do you have any problems?
Huh?

Speaker 6 (01:36:16):
I'm done, Dude.
We're going to have to get ridof you, dude you can't hear shit
, Cut, cut cut, I think it'sQuentin's phone.

Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
Get rid of Quentin.
Quentin got that Obama phone.
The fastest son of a bitch.

Speaker 3 (01:36:26):
Quentin's the fastest son of a bitch in America and
he can't hear us.
Hello, Quentin, Huh.

Speaker 10 (01:36:37):
Get him out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:36:38):
Hang up, hang up.

Speaker 5 (01:36:41):
He can't Hang up, hang up.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
There's a nearest.
Maybe he came young up.
Oh, did he?
Maybe I'll call back heyQuentin's fast.
That was funny oh yeah, huh,huh, all right, what's?

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
up with our telephone .
All right, maybe it's us.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
Oh no.

Speaker 1 (01:36:53):
I mean because some people hear it and some of them
are great.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:56):
I've noticed they hear me better when I say
something than when some ofy'all say something.

Speaker 6 (01:37:00):
Maybe it's because I can't hear shit.
All right, we got anothercaller.

Speaker 1 (01:37:04):
Guys, let's get them on the line.
See what it's all about.
I think we still got two morepeople that have called in,
which makes like 18 total today.
Who is this one?

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
calling 18 and 20,.
Man, it's pretty busy.
Let's not count the missedcalls.
Yeah, we got a lot of missedcalls too.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Jeez, this should be the last one.
It's just 12 o'clock, it'slunchtime.

Speaker 1 (01:37:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
They're going to start calling now.

Speaker 5 (01:37:27):
Yeah, my phone's going to be ringing for the next
12 hours.
We should definitely do oneafter 5 o'clock.
He said it sounds like a robot.

Speaker 1 (01:37:32):
There's probably a service on my phone in here.
Hey, take it Your-Fi.

Speaker 4 (01:37:38):
Somebody's calling.
Here we go, here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
You're off the clock with BScott.
With me I got Michael Shockley,daryl Moore and Tim Scott.

Speaker 9 (01:37:50):
Who are you and where are you from?
Hey, how you doing.
My name is Patrick Sheffield.
I'm from Savannah Georgia.
How y'all doing we're doingpretty good man.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Oh, we're doing pretty good man.

Speaker 9 (01:38:00):
You own a Havoc, sir, do you own a Havoc?
Yeah, I do, I do.
I own an RD-BST Sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Heck yeah, what kind of setup you got on that boat.

Speaker 9 (01:38:08):
So I have a 50 Yamaha on the back of this boat.

Speaker 4 (01:38:12):
Two-stroke or four-stroke?

Speaker 9 (01:38:15):
Four-stroke.
It's a brand-new 50.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:38:31):
How's it running?
It's running pretty good rightnow.
I got a six-inch Bob's kickingjack on it with a four-inch
spacer, so I'm running 10 inches, 48 to 51 with a stock prop
right now.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Like an aluminum prop or stainless steel.

Speaker 9 (01:38:49):
It's an aluminum prop .
Oh yeah, Still running prettygood.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
That's running surprisingly good, it's still
running.
Good man, that's a good runningboat.
Sounds like you got yourbalance point just right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:00):
Yeah, it sounds like you got a really happy boat
right here.
You just need something in theprop department.

Speaker 9 (01:39:06):
Yep, that's why I called.
I was looking for somesuggestions prop-wise what y'all
think I should look at.

Speaker 5 (01:39:13):
I think you can swing a 16 easy.
What size boat was it?

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
15-53.
15-53,.
Rdbst with a 50 Yamahafour-stroke.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Six-inch Bob's kicking but he has a lot of
setbacks, so you know he'srunning a high.

Speaker 5 (01:39:26):
I would try to find somebody that you know that's
got a 15 and a 16.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
I mean I think a 16,.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
I mean, he's running that motor high, aren't you?
What are you thinking?
Turbo, you thinking YBS.
What I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:39:36):
obviously, a YBS is going to pick a startup.

Speaker 5 (01:39:38):
When you run your boat, the most are you by
yourself or do you have peopleand stuff in there with you?

Speaker 9 (01:39:46):
I'm sorry it's a little hard to hear you all on
that, I know I hope that worked.
I said whenever you're runningyour boat.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
The majority of the time are you by yourself or you
got somebody in there with youice chest.

Speaker 9 (01:39:58):
Majority of the time, um, majority of the time, I'm
running, I'm running.
I'm running with two people twopeople, probably 15.

Speaker 1 (01:40:05):
I would go with a 15 go to 15 yeah it'd be, it'd be
really great if you had, youknow somebody, just reach out on
somebody on facebook orwhatever and be like hey, you
know, I got this boat.
I'm trying to run a 15 pitch tosee what it does.
That way you don't have to justbuy one without knowing yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
Get you a 15 turbo, but I think that would
definitely be good.
Or a 15 YBS might do it.
A YBS is a good prop out of thebox.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
It is, I love them.

Speaker 9 (01:40:35):
Absolutely.
Now let me ask you this as faras those YBS are concerned, is
it worth it to buy a real one?

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
Yes, yes, do not buy.

Speaker 9 (01:40:42):
Chinese.

Speaker 5 (01:40:42):
Stay away from China?

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
Yes, and what you can do on Havoc Boat's website?
You go to our gear shop and weactually sell them in our gear
shop and you're not going tofind it anywhere cheaper.

Speaker 3 (01:40:52):
Matter of fact, we'll make a special code for you.
Text us your name and numberand everything.
Yep, text us your name andnumber and everything.
Look at, yep and uh, we'll makea code for you and get you a
good product.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
An additional, uh yeah, we should discount on it,
it's already cheaper thananywhere, like literally
probably half pricing rails andwe'll get you a discount for uh
calling in and yeah tell us whatyou got and everything yeah,
choose a text message your name,number, address and all that
stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
You're looking for 15 ybs and we'll take care of you.

Speaker 9 (01:41:18):
Good deal, you can text it to the number you called
yep, yep text the number youcalled.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
we'll take care of you Good deal.
You can text it to the numberyou called Yep, Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:41:22):
Text the number you called.
We'll make a code today.
We'll send the code back to you.
Punch that in there into ourgear shop and you can buy
whatever you want.

Speaker 9 (01:41:30):
Awesome.
Well, I appreciate it fellas.

Speaker 5 (01:41:32):
Yes sir.

Speaker 1 (01:41:33):
You have a good one, man, you have a great day.

Speaker 9 (01:41:35):
You too.
All right bye.

Speaker 1 (01:41:39):
Later.
Hey, you're on Off the Clockwith B Scott.
I got Michael Shockley with me,daryl Moore and Tim Scott.

Speaker 10 (01:41:46):
Who are you and where are you from?
All right, y'all boys, morningyou done got them.
What's going on.
Oh, there he is.
Y'all boys, morning Y'all gotthem.

Speaker 1 (01:41:56):
What y'all doing over there?
Man, we just hanging outtalking about setups.
Dude, what you got going on.

Speaker 10 (01:42:00):
Man, I just got off the track and I was on the track
.
I didn't see the post.
Jamie had tagged me in it and Ireckon you had commented on it
and I seen it.
I reckon y'all going intoovertime.
Now it looks like y'all aboutan hour and a half over 12.

Speaker 3 (01:42:14):
Everybody keeps calling Wesley, but it was a
good opportunity to talk to you,for sure, but it was a good
opportunity to talk to you forsure, Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
I'm glad you called man.
So if you want to telleverybody what is your boat,
what model do you got?

Speaker 10 (01:42:26):
What's your setup?
Looking like, man, I had one ofthose.
I still got my drag.
But I had one of those 5.3s.
I don't know what was thatthing.

Speaker 3 (01:42:34):
A Mod 40?
Mod 40.

Speaker 10 (01:42:37):
No, no, I didn't.
No, I had the RDB SP.
I was the seedless one that gotthe compartments on it.
I got that from David overthere at Sloughside, yeah yeah,
yeah, but I'm going to be honestwith you, man Hell, it didn't
need no setup.
All I did was put a jack plateon it.
I think I put a kick plate onit, one of the CMCs you know.
You take the motor off and putthe spring on it.

(01:42:57):
I had one of them on there andput it on there normally.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
And I put my long shaft.
Why would you put one of themon there?
That's the worst damn jackpotyou could put on it.

Speaker 5 (01:43:09):
But it sounds like it's running good.

Speaker 10 (01:43:12):
Well, he could make anything run good when I first
bought the boat I put a shortshaft, 30 Yamaha on that thing
and it ran fine with that.
It was around near 13 solaceand 30 yarmulke on that thing
and it ran fine with that on theround near 13 solace and went
and set up on that.
All I did was bolt the damnthing up and run it and it ran
perfect.
Wow, I took my long, got a longdraft, 59 inch, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43:30):
Wesley, what you been up to, man.
You've been kind of quiet sinceyou shaved your head years ago.

Speaker 10 (01:43:35):
No, well, if y'all, I've been waiting on Tim to call
me back.
He's a busy man.
I've been working on that drag.
Again sometime this week.
I said we're going to call Timand we'll call him until he
answers, we'll call him until heanswers hey sometimes you got
to man, I'm sorry, man, I'msorry.
The guy's busy man.
I know he's busy.

(01:44:00):
You know like to pester the mantoo much.
But back to that 553, I hate it.
It was already BST and I guessthe C with the compartments.
One rod holder in the boy'salways debating on the long and
short Hell.
I didn't want to turn too muchbut being as big a boat as it is
a factory 30 Yamaha on it witha 13 solar Plane it right off

(01:44:21):
and ride just fine.
Put the 59 on there and went tothe long shaft, put it on the
second hole in the motor.
There ain't no setup to them.
You put it on there and itrides perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
That's what it is.
It's a good boat.
That.

Speaker 1 (01:44:34):
Mod 40 is such a forgiving RDST.

Speaker 3 (01:44:38):
He's running RDST, though he's not even running the
Mod 40.
The Mod 40.

Speaker 10 (01:44:40):
Yeah, the one I'm talking about is the 5.3 of the
RDBST.
Yeah, you know, with the cutoutin it.
Yeah, 16-inch setback.
There ain't no setup to it.
You put the damn motor on there, put your 15, 16-pitch black,
stainless on it and it ridesperfect in trouble setting these
boats up.

Speaker 3 (01:44:59):
Why is that, in your opinion?
Yeah, I mean no, no, no.
We build a lot of boats, right?
So you know.
A lot of guys know what they'redoing, some guys don't.
But what could you tell peoplewhen you're setting a boat up?
How can you help them?

Speaker 1 (01:45:17):
Wesley there.

Speaker 10 (01:45:19):
I hear you, man.
It's just a little hard for meto understand what he said was.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
He said you see all these people online having a
hard time setting their boats up.
What could you tell them tokind of help them set their
boats up?
What would be my advice to them?
Yeah, what would be your advice?

Speaker 10 (01:45:37):
you want me to be honest, yeah this is going to be
fun.
I'd tell them it ain't the boatduty, maybe you need a four
stroke and you need to leavethem two strokes alone because
y'all trying to overdo it.
The boats ride fine, just likey'all, and y'all expecting to
run 70 miles an hour, like yousee these boys on these videos.
I said the fact of the matter isyour motor ain't your motor's

(01:45:59):
not capable of that that's rightyou got these off-wall builders
cocking many ideas they've gotand it ain't working for you and
you're spanking money intosomething that ain't going to
work.
I said you just put a goodrunning motor on there and put
it where I told you to put it.
It's going to ride perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:46:13):
I don't understand that.
You're a smart man.
You're right, you're a smartman, wesley.
Well, I appreciate you callingbud.
We got callers coming in, Iunderstand.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
It was awesome talking to you, great talking to
you.
You know, this is Tim Scott,right, I'm talking to you.
I'll see you soon.

Speaker 10 (01:46:29):
I'll see you soon, gentlemen.
Tim, I'm going to call youlater on this week and let you
know what we got going on ourend.
See, if we can't a good plan toaccommodate everybody.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
Make sure they have a good time.
Yes, sir, we'll have a party.
We'll have a good time.
I'll see you boys soon.
I appreciate y'all andeverything.

Speaker 10 (01:46:46):
Yes, sir wesley all right, wesley, you have a good
one bud later.
All right, gentlemen bye-byedude.

Speaker 3 (01:46:49):
That dude right there is solid.
I love that dude.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
He is all right, guys .
That wraps it up.
It was fun talking to you guysabout setups.
We're gonna do a lot more ofthis, guys.
There's a lot of informationyou know at this table that we
need to get out to people, and alot of that's our fault.
We'll do a better job at it.
So make sure you guys staytuned for more like this and
don't forget, check out our gearshop.
We got tons of new things.
We got bikinis, sandbar stuff,towels everything you might need
is in there.

(01:47:12):
So before we leave, though, wejust hit 3300 subscribers, which
is huge.
Guys, keep pumping this thingup.
We'll keep making more calm, uhcontent like this, and guys,
thank you for everything.
So that wraps this up.
We'll catch you on the next one.

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