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What happens when two individuals refuse to let disabilities define their limits and instead embark on a journey to inspire others to do the same? Join us as we explore the remarkable story of Dallas and Jacob, a blind and paralyzed hunting duo who defy societal expectations. Their tale is one of resilience, humor, and determination, illustrating how they've turned personal challenges into opportunities for growth and connection. Through their partnership, they've not only pursued their passion for hunting but also established a venue accessible to individuals with disabilities, restoring independence and joy to many.

Throughout this episode, hear firsthand accounts of overcoming adversity, such as Jacob's life-altering accident that transformed his perspective, and Dallas's unwavering optimism despite his blindness. We share thrilling outdoor adventures, from alligator hunts to unexpected deer encounters, painting a vivid picture of camaraderie and the unpredictable nature of their pursuits. Their stories are woven with personal anecdotes and a touch of humor, showcasing the strength found in friendship, mutual support, and shared experiences.

As the episode unfolds, we delve into the power of positivity, faith, and gratitude in navigating life's challenges. The bonds formed through shared struggles and triumphs highlight the significance of community and the impact of being a positive influence on others. With an emphasis on embracing life's possibilities and pushing beyond perceived limitations, Dallas and Jacob's journey is a testament to the human spirit's capacity for bravery and perseverance, leaving listeners inspired to strive for greatness, regardless of the obstacles.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Alright, guys, this podcast here will change your
lives, okay.
So we was online and we seenDallas and Jacob.
They have a Havoc boat.
Well, we looked further intoand we realized that Dallas is
blind and Jacob is paralyzed andwhat they do is they work
together as a team to hunt andstill do what they love.
And it's really crazy to evencomprehend that, you know, a

(00:25):
blind guy and a paralyzed guywork together to go out on their
own and hunt.
So we had to get these guys inhere, obviously, because this is
a story that we got to have.
You know, it's inspirationaland I mean y'all really need to
stay tuned, man, because thispodcast could change your life.
Let's get this thing going.

(00:48):
So y'all been hunting, dallasand Jacob.
Y'all been hunting with Brianthe last couple days.
Yeah, sure, how'd y'all meet?
Let's get into where y'allfirst came together at Us and
Jacob and I Brian.
We're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Brian, so basically—.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
It'd be your Facebook post.
Yeah, yeah, Brian.
So basically It'd be yourFacebook post.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
They put it, dallas put it.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
I put a post because we're trying to do disability
awareness.
We want film of action and ofcourse, our home starts.
There's no action there he is.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's not a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I made a post asking if any, because we don't have a
duck, dog or nothing.
We don't really have a goat.
So you know, we see the duckand it's a guy in a wheelchair,
a black guy.
He's trying to coach me to theduck and I just made a post
asking if anybody would let ustag along.
And Brian commented on thereand said come on.

Speaker 6 (01:43):
Brian's a good guy, Heck yeah.
Oh 100%.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
He let us some straight at his chat then and
fed us and got me on some stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:51):
They made that post and I seen it, and Facebook is
just.
It's a crazy place.
There's a lot of good people inthe world, but there's a lot of
bad people.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
And when I saw his post, I saw it and I didn't know
anything about him.
So I look up a video of him andI'm like is this a blind hat,
what?
So I was a little confused.
So I get to looking a littlebit and then I see all these
comments like people are likeyou can't hunt, you're blind,
you can't do that.
I'm like man, why are peoplebeing mean?
You know what's the deal here?
Then, and I'm like Well, Ithink that people are confused

(02:23):
because people like y'all peoplelike you guys.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
Motivate people to be better.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's why we do what we do no 100%.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
I can't even go to a gym every day and you guys are
going out there hunting.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I mean it's crazy.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
I don't know.
It definitely makes you afterlistening to your story.
Of course, we're going to getall this on the podcast.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
This is going to be an awesome podcast, by the way.

Speaker 6 (02:45):
Just being so brave and going up here and talking
about this stuff, you know, andleading by an example is what we
do.
And hey, man, you know y'allare awesome, we're trying to get
it done.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
It's awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:57):
We didn't have any trouble.
The whole time they scared mean hour out.
They called me and they're likehey.
I called and I said hey, wherey'all at?
And he said we're about an hourout.

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Speaker 4 (03:22):
And in their post he said that he was blind.
And I guess he had said thatyou were in a wheelchair or
paralyzed.
Well, I guess I missed thatpart somehow.
I didn't know you were thefriend coming.
He said he was going to have afriend come with him.
I didn't know you were thefriend.
So then he says I say, well,the cabin's 32 steps high, is

(03:43):
that a problem?
And he's like, oh yes it's aproblem.
My friend is in a wheelchair andI was like, what do you mean?
He's like, well, he's paralyzed.
And I was like, uh-oh, we got aproblem.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
When you said a while ago that they stayed in their
cabin, I was thinking, becauseI've stayed in that cabin.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
I was like oh See we actually ended up staying at the
trailer just because I sold thesteps and stuff, but the 32
steps aren't anything, man.
Whenever I was in college, Igot with my what's now my wife,
and she used to carry me upthree flights of stairs every
night.
Every night during collegeshe'd carry me up three flights
of stairs on her back.
So anything's doable.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
You just got to be able to put yourself out there
and do it.
We just adjusted and there'sonly five steps to the trailer,
so we use the trailer on thehill but anyway, just a little
back story there.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
So how'd the hunt go.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Did y'all make him, or what?

Speaker 2 (04:32):
no go for it.
So, uh, monday morning we wentto the Cass River and, uh, hunt,
played a timber and got I, andI got my first green pass, just
being blind.

Speaker 4 (04:43):
What'd you tell me on the way in there?
I think we got a clip of it.
What'd you say in the boat onthe way?
You'd never killed what?

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Arkansas Flooded Timber Dreamhead yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Since you've been blind, huh yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
No period, he ain't ever killed one in Flooded
Timber.
Not in Flooded Timber, no Lazy,it's the pindering out.
This is a lifelong dream cametrue for Dallas in.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Arkansas, I've only hunted Millwood.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Big Millwood yeah or Jack Owl.
I know exactly where it is.
I was there not too long ago,but I was hunting private on
grass just below there.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
We hunted down there by the 2148 sign so this is your
first greenhead.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Yep, so awesome.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
So this is your first greenhead, Yep, since I so
awesome.
Yes, sir, oh.
And then this morning we go,the first one.
I water swatted him and hey,can they fly?
But now this I love waterswatting.

Speaker 5 (05:43):
This morning he does too.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
This morning I shot one in the air.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
So walk us through how that works.
Like what?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
So with duck hunting me and Jacob, normally they come
in, like when I shot my gooseearlier this year.
Basically they come in and hegoes up up west and just
tailwind me and I just spray andpray, trial and error A trial
and error to be honest.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
We've run it a lot of mornings and wasted a lot of
shells, and then this morning.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
But we put it together.
This morning Brian helped.
He just grabbed the barrel,pretty much, or the handguard or
whatever, and get me out thearea and then chase the ducks
with my barrel as they're flyingout.
But really in a matter of asecond I don't throw three
shells.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
He's just boom boom boom Spraying.

Speaker 6 (06:35):
So who tells me that has to be awesome, right?
I mean, did you say, hey, did Ihit the duck?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, yeah he squeezes a trigger.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
He is very concerned on whether or not, he hit what
he was aiming at.
What does he say, though?
What does he say?

Speaker 3 (06:53):
Did I get that group?

Speaker 6 (06:54):
Did I kill anything in that group?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
What does he say oh, he ain't no man.

Speaker 4 (07:00):
That's his second kill right here in the air.
Guys, I mean this is right here, I mean this is right here, I
mean it's clear as day.
So I'm helping him right hereon the tree.
Bam, bam right there in yourface.
Oh, that's awesome.
Eight steps Smoke that greenhead, I think.

Speaker 6 (07:12):
I was more excited than he was.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I was fired up.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
He's finna get his ducks up.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I was fired up when they at Look at them.
I'm telling you, if it wouldallow it, he would carry those
ducks around for two weeks.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
I promise, I promise you gotta refreeze them each day
, they won't stink.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
No, they, they are getting mounted my first limit
of birds.
I'm planning to do a dead mountwhere they're all hanging by
their legs yeah, that's how I'mgetting my first limit dude,
that where they're all hangingby their legs.
Yeah, that's how I'm getting myfirst women Dude that's going
to be cool.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Oh yeah, it's going to be awesome.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
That's exciting.
So tell me a little bit aboutyou guys.
I mean alright, so we see youkill ducks.
Have you always hunted deerducks?
Have you always hunted yourwhole life?
Have both of you guys huntedyour whole life?

Speaker 3 (08:04):
ducks.
Have you always hunted yourwhole life if both you guys on
your life, my whole life?
Yes, I grew up hunting.
Uh as far as waterfowl, no,I've always been rabbit,
squirrel, deer um hunting withmy grandpa.
I raised my grandpa uh raisehogs, hunt hogs literally just
like spending time in the woodsfishing uh running the river.
Um dallas actually drug me intothe waterfowl and then got me
into hunting ducks and it's beena learning curve but it's been

(08:27):
a blast.
It has been a blast.
So you never hunted waterfowlbefore Other things like going
out with buddies and drinking onweekends in high school.
No, and we wasn't duck hunting.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
We were saying we was duck hunting, but we was not
duck hunting.
Dallas, you did hunt waterfowlbefore your accident, right?

Speaker 2 (08:43):
So I grew up, I started hunting with my uncle
when I was young and I deerhunted and I would go sleep in
the duck boat.
But yeah, then when I got intomiddle school I started duck
hunting and it was over with.
That was life, that was all Icared about, that was all I
talked about, and I chased deerand I occasionally went deer but

(09:07):
yeah, I was always duck huntingand since I've been blind, this
is the first year I got to duckhunt since.
But yeah, I've always hunteddeer, ducks, frogs and fish,
just like him, just anything inthe woods.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
We ain't got to go into great detail, but I do want
to at least let everybody knowout there, dallas, we'll start
with you.
How'd you get hurt?
What happened to you?

Speaker 2 (09:31):
So when I was 21, I'm not 100% sure and I'm not going
to go into any details on that,but I was sound shot and I was
butt shot.
They said I did it to myself, Ihad memory, crime scene
pictures and all that and that'smy memory of it not being me.

(09:53):
But I was shot with, butt shotIn the face.
In the face and yeah, wow, mybottom jaw is my fibula, my top
jaw is my scapula, my eyes areprostheticetic and all I see is
black.
Yeah, he a tough old bird I wasshot with butt shot and the cops

(10:15):
and everything.
Let me lay in the house forthree hours shot before they let
my adopted dad come in thereand find me.
Wow.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
And then I walked myself to the helicopter.
They let my adopted dad come inthere and find me.
Wow yeah, they wouldn't enterthe residence or something.

Speaker 4 (10:26):
And then I walked myself to the helicopter.
I'd say, by the grace of Godstill here, huh.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I tell people, if you could see angels, that they
were carrying me out that house.
Wow, yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Jacob, what's your story?
How did you end up in the chair, brother man?

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I was a young dumb kid.
God was opening all kinds ofdoors every day.
I come from a little bit ofnothing and I'd gotten
scholarships to go play footballand instead of being thankful
and doing what I should havebeen doing, I kind of cut my
family off and was like you know, I don't need none of them
dragging me down.
And I had a side-by-side wreckone morning.

(11:07):
Same road I took every morningon the way to work.
It was literally a little oldquarter-mile driveway with a
very shallow turn in it andthere was absolutely no reason
for me to have wrecked at all,no reason.
I've replayed it a thousandtimes in my head and it was
sincerely like everything wasgoing great and it was like I'm

(11:29):
going to put a wrench in stuffand you're going to sit down and
smell the roses and see whatlife's about.
And it only saved my life.
It saved my life 100%.

Speaker 6 (11:37):
Getting put in this chair made me so.
You view you being paralyzed.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
a blessing for you, oh, 100% 100%, and I say the
same thing.
It was the worst slash, bestday of my life.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
I was nowhere near the type of person.

Speaker 6 (11:54):
So why do you think it's?
Why do you think, why do youall say that?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I would have never had.
I've always believed in God andI suffered with depression and
stuff and felt like nobody lovedme.
And when I woke up a monthafter I was shot in the hospital
and knew I should be dead, Iknew God loved me and he spared
my life.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
Yeah, I've spent the last three days with these guys
all day long and we were in thetruck.
I spent the last three dayswith these guys all day long and
we were in the truck.
I think I probably shed as manytears in the last three days as
I have my whole life Tears ofsadness, tears of joy, tears I
don't even know.
These guys are inspirational.

(12:36):
I asked Dallas.
I said Dallas, so what do youthink about being blind?
He's like you know, at leastI'm alive.
I could have been dead.
You know I'm alive.
God saved me, you know.
Then.
Then I asked Jacob the samequestion.
You know, is your glass halffull, half empty?
Jacob says you know.
You know I'm paralyzed, but youknow, at least I can still see
and drive, at least I'm notblind.
So it's all in your perspective.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
It's just your perspective, you know, it's it's
and the way y'all do, whaty'all do, you know, y'all go out
hunting and from the story youtell, which you're going to have
to get back to the stories.
Oh, I definitely will, y'allare like yin and yang Y'all work
together, oh yeah, and y'allget into all kinds of stuff.
So how did y'all?

Speaker 4 (13:16):
meet.
How did y'all two meet?

Speaker 3 (13:19):
How did this start?
I just got a wild hair andstarted trying to put together a
handicap accessible huntingvenue, just kind of where people
with disabilities could show up.
I could show them where theblinds are, what their options
were and just leave it to themwhere they could access the
access property, access theblinds do everything on their
own.
Just kind of give back a littlebit of independence.

(13:40):
Dallas seen one of my posts onfacebook and was like man, would
you be willing to take mehunting?
So I was like, yeah.
So the first weekend uh, it wasliterally him and his wife and
his kid showed up.
I showed him the blinds.
They went hunting, um, had someopportunities at a at one of
our target bucks and, uh, mydaughter ran him off.
Yeah, his daughter wanted toshoot it, not let dallas shoot

(14:01):
it.
So I got a little loud in theblind Sounds like my daughter
yeah yeah.
But it's all good.
And since then he hunted thatweekend with his family and then
came back, I think, two weekslater and stayed like three
weeks and then the next week orthe next season he came back
down and stayed a couple ofweeks at a time and it ended up

(14:24):
turning in from a hunting tripinto pretty good buddies and we
just seen where it goes, seenwhere it goes.
That is awesome.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
So what's, what's y'all's end goal for the what
like what?
What's your?
What's your dreams?
What's your?

Speaker 6 (14:36):
aspirations with it, Like what do you, what do?

Speaker 4 (14:38):
you want out of what?
What do you want to come?

Speaker 3 (14:47):
On my end, on my side of things, I've, uh, a lot of
it's already coming to life, um,and has really came to life in,
like the past year.
Uh, but getting my, getting mygrandparents land bought back
and solidified and uh, beingable to like with dallas here,
just share the outdoors withpeople that don't get back into
it like, or think they can't ordon't have the help to get back
into situations, and uh, just tolet everybody know that,

(15:08):
regardless of where you findyourself or what you find
yourself thinking, man, um,don't go negative with it.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
It's, if you think you can do it, you can do it um,
yeah, so thank you, can't sothank you can yeah, and also
like the uh, like me and him,the stuff we do.
We do a lot of crazy stuff wedo to show people who are
disabled you still can do it,and to show people who aren't

(15:34):
disabled we still can do it Likeyou ain't got to hang up your
old buddies just because youmight think it'll be a hassle to
get them in a boat or to getthem to stay out.
All my old buddies.
Not one of them has you know.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Until they see him on the duck call room.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, you know so a lot of people hate you up or
whatever, or like he, like Brian, said people on there, you
can't do it, you're blind.
Well, if we're out here doingit and showing people they can
do it, then you can't count themout.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
if you see it happening For one of those
aren't your buddies.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
It's just like anything else in life the haters
keep you going A ranch one timetold me, no, a gun club told me
they're all about me joininguntil they heard I was blind and
they're like that's like tryingto join a race car club.
I was like, well, well, if Ilove driving race cars then and
I went blind, I'd learn how todo it and if I could, I'd race

(16:30):
them.
I was like I'm going to let youknow.
People like you is why I get upevery day and strive to do what
I do.
That's right.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Absolutely.
And like with a lot of oursituations and everybody's
situations, man, I'm sure youprobably go through things in
life that you need help with ona daily basis.
I got a lot of haters too.
A lot of people are quick to belike, no, I don't need help.
No, I don't need help,especially being in a chair or
being blind or being at adisadvantage.

(17:00):
You know you don't want to feellike the needy person in the
room, whereas like this video uphere on the screen.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Dallas finna snatch me out of the boat and throw me
in my chair.
We get back from huntingyesterday.
This is how they get out of thetruck.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
It's not that I can't get out of the boat and into my
chair, but this is a hundredtimes simpler.
We don't have to worry aboutmessing with the chair and all
that.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
If it's easier, make it easier man, it's like y'all
got two to make one.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Yes, sir, yes sir, he don't have.

Speaker 5 (17:27):
He has what you don't have.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, and another thing that's pretty cool, though
, is like if it's just mehunting with a bunch of
able-bodied people, then Brianand them, they're a lazy group
of people.
People you can tell thatthey're uncomfortable or they're

(17:50):
they're weird about it, butlike me and jayshuck, I don't
feel like I'm putting him out,it's just we're both.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
We're both disabled, so you know it's like it's
buddies hunting.
Yeah, it's not.
You don't feel like the oddball or nothing.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yes, sir yeah, I can see real quick that they're.
They're perfectly fine doingtheir thing.
And I told them.
I was like, if y'all need help,let me know, Otherwise I'll be
over here.
You know I'm doing the boat,stuff and next thing I know he's
unloaded.
I mean I and stuff doesn'talways go perfect.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
I promise it's not always perfect, I done almost
drowned one time this year in aduck hole.
What happened?
Oh dude, late night one of mybuddies hit me up.
He was like, hey, you want togo hunt that hole down there by
your house?
I was like, yeah, sure, let'sgo Wake up.
He was supposed to be there at430.
I laid back down at about 455,and he messaged me at 5.
I was like, hey, I'll be therein 15 minutes.

(18:41):
So jumped back up.
So I ripped my coveralls,zipping them up, ended up I was
cussing the good Lord and I wasnot being a very decent human
being and got my track chairloaded up.
Everything was going good.
As I rolled out the door, mywife said you need to pray about
that and apologize.
And I didn't.
And I generally pray everymorning before I hunt.
I pray before I eat, you know Ipray all the time.

(19:04):
And I pray every morning beforeI hunt.
I pray before I eat, you know Ipray all the time.
Uh, and I didn't.
And we got out there and mybuddy unloaded my chair, pulled
it up there beside me, throw mein it.
Um, I backed up a little bitand he was grabbing our shell
bag getting all our stuff.
He went to open the doors toget our shotguns and I was just
a little bit too close to thepickup so I had to back up.
And when I backed up I backedup about five feet too far and

(19:26):
it was just a new parking spotwe normally don't park there and
I wasn't aware of mysurroundings.
I gave him my headlight so hecould get all our stuff and
anyway I backed up and oneminute I was looking at him
about to hand me my shotgun.
The next second I was lookingat the stars and everything went
dark, dark.
I dropped off about three and ahalf four foot into about three

(19:48):
foot of water.
Oh man, my track chair kickedover on its side.
The way my track chair works isit's all electric, so obviously
that ain't a good mix.
I've got a bar that kicks downover my knees, in front of my
shins, and it straps my legs in.
I'm in three foot of water onmy side, so you're pinned.
Yes, sir, I'm under the water.
And at first I didn't realize Iwas in the water, like I guess

(20:10):
I was in shock.
I don't know really what wasgoing on.
What I first realized is Iwasn't just cold, I was wet and
I was like, oh, this ain't good,no-transcript, went back to the

(20:48):
house and sat in front of theheater for about 30 minutes and
then went and winched the oldtrack chair out of the icy
depths, tell us is it destroyed?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
Oh brother.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Did we need a GoFundMe?

Speaker 3 (21:08):
No, no, no, no, go fund me, director, hey, I, I, I.
Hey, I did make a post ontiktok asking just um, yeah, it
did ruin, but I'll be, I, I, man, I've had that thing 10 years
now and I've put a lot of, I'veput a lot into it, put a lot of
hours on it uh, put a lot ofhunts into it.
Um, I've got a lot of use outof, out of it.
But it is a super expensiveunit and, um, man, electric and
outdoors just don't mix reallywell and I'm hard on everything

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as it is.
Uh, right now I'm waiting on itto dry out and see, see what
the damage actually is.

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Uh, probably has a board I guess, yeah, it's got,
it's got a mother.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
It's got a control panel and it's got a motherboard
, and then it's got two electricmotors off the back side of it
and it's got two big 24 volt uhbatteries, and two of my bat, or
one of my batteries, wassubmerged.
Both my motors were submergedand my controller was submerged.
Um, I got my controller off,drying it and all that good
stuff.
But if the cost damage isanywhere around 3,500, then I'm

(22:00):
just going to go ahead andconvert it either to gas powered
or lithium, because lithium theonly thing that scares me is
lithium is the fires.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Yes, man, I don't even know.
That would be no good.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
That would not be good.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
It wouldn't be cold, though.
No, it wouldn't work.
You'd have to install like aquick eject.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
You know what I mean A little airbag Like off the
power.
But know what I mean A littleairbag button like Austin.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Powers, but doing what you do.

Speaker 5 (22:27):
that track chair is a necessity, oh man.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Nearly nearly.
Yeah, Corp of Engineers don'tlike you on their property on
wheelers, very much so the trackchair does do it.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
It makes it easier guiding me, because I ain't got
to bend all the way over to grabthis shoulder.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
This sucker will complain about anything.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
I tell you hey, dallas is a big guy, dude, he is
, he's big.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I lost a lot of height a few years back.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
A few weeks ago, a few duck hunts ago, those are so
positive.
A few duck hunts ago we weretrying to go see if we could
find a duck that I may have shot, so we got on the wheeler and
drove around.
We were trying to go see if wecould find a duck that I may
have shot, and so we got on thewheeler and drove around and
we're driving through the waterjust going along.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
No hold up, we was on a gravel bar.
Yeah, we were driving down agravel bar.
We was in a good spot.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
It was in the water, but we were driving and all of a
sudden that rear end just satdown.

Speaker 3 (23:21):
And I'm talking about sank and we came off the, what
it is.
The creek channel flows intothe lake and we came off the end
of that gravel bar and I didn'trealize it and went straight
into the lake bed and it satdown and we're on an old Yamaha
09, yamaha Big Bear, and myfront drive shaft gave out a
blast.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
You're two-wheeling drive.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
It was a forwarder given to us that we patched up
to work.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
But so at first you know I'm on it, gunning it,
trying to downshift and work thewheel, and Dallas is trying to
pick up on the rear end to getit out of the hole.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Finally, I was like dude, I'm going to have to take
you off.
Let's see.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
Luckily I had my waders on that morning but he
had sent me over in likechest-deep water and I got a
little bit of it on video but Iwas trying to balance myself
most of the time.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
But yeah, he literally had to manhandle this
wader, yeah, and got it dashedup out of the hole.
If it wasn't in the hole, itwas about right above my ankle
or a little in my shin.
In the hole it was like my knee, literally, like.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
I a little in my shin and the hole it was like my
knee.
Literally, like I said, theground just disappeared
underneath us.
But like that dude, had thatbeen just me out there by myself
, I'd be stuck out there.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Luckily I had an old, blind guy with me and, that
being said, when that happened,honestly we weren't mad, we were
laughing oh, we was having agood time and I was like.
I was like I feel like you knowif this happens to people that
can see we're getting to beregular.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
We're getting to do it.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
I would like to be more like that.
I would be mad yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:57):
Oh, you would have been mad Two years ago, but I
mean you're just mad.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Two years ago ago I'd have been mad too, I'm not
gonna lie.
Uh, yes, I've um, which I'm alot more patient than I used to
be where you kind of have to be,I'm a lot better.
There you go.
The good lord knew what he wasdoing baby I'm telling you.
I just um, I learn every day.
But dallas and I, when I saythis, I mean this ain't just
patting him on the back.
He is a very patient, he is.
He's hard to get mad.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
I asked him this morning.
I said being blind, does thishelp with your patience?
And he was like yeah, a lot,because I have to depend on
someone else so much.

Speaker 6 (25:35):
He's not depending on somebody, though.
You want to do it.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
Yeah, no, yes, 100%.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
The partnership is like.

Speaker 4 (25:43):
He's just saying he's a lot of times on their oh yeah
, yeah, yeah, no, no exactly100%.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
The partnership is like this no just Chris and Rick
Donahue, he's just saying he'son a lot of times on their time
frame.

Speaker 4 (25:48):
He's on other people's time.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
Yes, there's been several times this year.
We've had Hunt set up and I'vehad stuff come up.
I'm not going to be able to doit right now.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Y'all are partners in this.
Yeah, 100%, y'all feed off eachother's excitement.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:04):
Yes, sir, y'all are one person and you don't need
him.
He don't need you no.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Y'all just do it together.
Yes, and that's what I wasgetting at.
Man, it's everything I do.
I do a lot of solo hunting.
I hunt public land.
When I deer hunt, I hunt bymyself or with my six-year-old
niece.
Like nine times out of ten ifI'm not carrying somebody but
hunting, like I said, huntingwith Dallas, it's not carrying
somebody, hunting, it's goinghunting with a buddy yeah, it's,

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and from listening to y'allstories you know I think y'all
like the problems that y'all runinto.
Oh, 100% it's like because ofthe challenge.
It's like you're like it's whateverybody thinks you want to do
everybody thinks you can't do,and when you're out there doing
it, it not only solidifies itfor you.
It lets them know, In the senseof accomplishment, knowing

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you're still doing it.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
You're like, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, I'm blind, but I'm stillout here doing it.
How are y'all, when there'speople that aren't blind, that
probably would have just leftour four-wheeler and cried?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
about it.

Speaker 4 (27:04):
Oh, I promise, yeah, that wheeler probably would have
got left for a couple hoursanyway these last few days.
It's just been crazy, becauseI'm not used to dealing with
this either.
So I've been trying toaccommodate as I can.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
Well, you know, Brian , I text you at 4.30 this
morning saying are you rollingdown here?
Yeah.
And you said I'm going duckhunting.
I'm like holy cow, he duckhunts every day.
We need to come down here anddo this podcast, you know
whatever.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
But now I understand the commitment.
A couple times in the woods andstuff.
I'm like here's your shells orhere's whatever.
I'm like here you go, dallas.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
What.

Speaker 5 (27:33):
I want to know.

Speaker 4 (27:34):
He doesn't take them and I'm like you forget.
Oh it what I want to know?

Speaker 6 (27:40):
I want to know this.
That's great.
What I want to know, and Ithink the viewers want to know
this too, because this is notabout funny stories or nothing
like this.
This is about your drive insociety, driving your life.
You know you mentioned severaltimes, it's changed your life.
Yes, and y'all both have thesame mindset.
How in the world did that everhappen?

(28:01):
And your children?
So you have children?
No, Dallas does.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
Dallas has a wife and kids.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
How old?

Speaker 6 (28:08):
is your child.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
I have a daughter who is 10.
She was two when it happenedand she's 10 now, and I have a
son who will be two in Februaryand his name is actually Camo.
His name is Camo, yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:24):
Oh my gosh, Spell it for him.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Dallas.
It's spelled K-A-M-O, but wemake the joke.
People are like, why would youname your son that?
And I'm like I can't see.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
Oh my God, Bro Rabbit .

Speaker 3 (28:41):
Rabbit, you are a rabbit.

Speaker 6 (28:44):
Y'all are absolutely.
I've never, I've never met,that's so awful.
I've never met two people.
My whole entire life.
I'm 45 years old, I've nevermet two people.
That is that cool, I appreciatethat.
Y'all are amazing.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Absolutely With that.
So my daughter was two and,yeah, I had to fight for her.
You know, like I had to do itfor her too, and you know I had
to show her, you know, and I'veused this as a teaching point in
her life Like, just assomething don't go your way,
that don't mean you give up.
You know, you wake up and youhold your head high and tell

(29:24):
everybody about Jesus and evenwhen stuff don't go your way,
you have good character and thistaught me a lot, honestly.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
I was asking, I didn't realize.
So he met his wife and gotmarried after this Same.
So he's never seen his wife.
Oh, wow, yeah, I see, manDallas has never seen his wife.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
He's never seen his wife.
Oh wow, Dallas has never seenhis wife.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
He's never seen his little boy.

Speaker 6 (29:49):
How do you imagine what she looks like?
Do you feel her face?

Speaker 2 (29:56):
No, the whole feeling , the face thing to me, it is
but my.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
thing is she has?

Speaker 2 (30:05):
It's a scam, she's been bothered by that before,
but at this point in life, likeI told her at the end, it really
don't matter.
What matters is what's on theinside.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
Last night we went to the gas station.
When we go to the gas station Istay in the car Normally.
If I can't see the register,I'll FaceTime.

Speaker 4 (30:23):
Dallas, you did find the guest.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Actually, we went to the Dollar.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
General.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
I asked what people look like Anyway.
So he always asks me whatpeople look like, so I try to
describe people to him.
Well, last night when he gotback in the car he said, what'd
she look like?
And I was like well, what doyou think she looked?

Speaker 4 (30:48):
like and dude almost to a T which I'm not real good
at judging women's weight?
Neither, but as far as Nobodyis as far as Don't do that.
That's a huge negative.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Quit talking about it .
It's a huge negative.
But yeah, sometimes I'mcompletely off.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
But as far as hot hair color, skin color and what
else did I ask?
I asked something else or no?

Speaker 6 (31:06):
you said something else I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Oh and weight.
I don't know what he said.
I think it looked right to me,you know, but he hit all the
points off of walking andtalking to that lady.
It's great.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
He surprises me a lot .
So I do carpentry sometimes Ibuild fences and stuff you build
fences now, yes.
Before I came to go huntingwith him, I built the wood duck
box.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
I've seen pictures and they are legit.
If anybody's needing a fencebuilt by the way.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yes, 100%, bruce is fencing.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
There's been times I've built a fence when I tried
to do it as a business butpeople don't want to work.
Say, an employee did somethingand I'd go there and fill it and
I'd be like this ain't right.
And everybody looking at itwould be like yeah, it is.
And I'd go get a level or atape measure and I'd show them
like this ain't right.
And then they'd be like hang on, he's right.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
It is wrong.
We've been on deck jobstogether because I went through
a little old wanting to be acontractor escapade.
Let me tell you that can turninto some crazy things, but
anyhow, we was working on a deckjob and Dallas called about
four or five things that wasn'tbeing done right and I'm like
consistently.

(32:20):
So y'all was working togethernow.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh yeah, we built stuff together.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
Y'all have done a lot in four or five years.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Oh, yes, about three years, About three years yeah we
built a 20 by 20 deck one timefor a year.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
I ain't got no quit.
We ain't got no quit.
There ain't no quit.
Anyhow, everything Dallascalled on that job.
I've had to go back and redobecause everything he said was
wrong was wrong.

Speaker 4 (32:45):
Oh, I love working.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Dallas already asked me he's a pretty good hand.
Do you think y'all got anyassembly or anything I could do
at the plant?
And I said I don't know.
I'll have to holler at Tim,we'll check into it.
And he said but there's onedeal.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
He said somebody's got to get me to work, so you've
got to hire Jacob too.
So a few years ago, I can hireyou guys in a heartbeat.
A few years ago, I wassplitting firewood as a job, oh
my.

Speaker 6 (33:17):
God.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Running the hydraulic splitter and my boss said he's
like man.
Honestly you're the bestemployee I ever had.
I said what do you mean?
He's like you're blind, so youdon't wander off, you don't get
distracted.
He's like you just sit thereand work, you get in a groove
and you just stay at it and godbless you.

Speaker 6 (33:35):
Oh yeah yeah, yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2 (33:39):
You inspire a lot of people to be better that's's why
I said I woke up in thehospital he has me for sure.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
The list of accomplishments and the
accolades.
I mean for one he's blind, gotmarried blind, has a kid, blind,
goes hunting.
Hey, show him your deer, ohyeah.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
We even got to that.
Let's touch on that for aminute.
Go already.
Oh, dude, I'm at arkansas tank.
I'm telling you he, uh, he'sright there, to your right, bro,
yeah I'm right here.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
I'll sit right next to this thing up.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
Um yeah, tell us this story guys uh, all right, so,
uh like, like we said, we'vebeen hunting a lot together.
Well, uh, the night before Ishot him we've been talking
where are we gonna go?
Where are to go?
The old lady obviously has apreacher out in her place.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
And it wasn't Sunday.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
And it wasn't Sunday.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
So we're going to go hunt public.
So that night we're like let'swait until dark to let slip in
there and put a blind out onpublic lands.
Well, where Jacob lives now hedoesn't hunt it or nothing
there's deer there he never seesEither way.
We go to leave and there's hishouse, an eight acre block of

(35:01):
timber, and then there's cabins.
Well, we go to leave and assoon as the eight acre block,
his property line, ends, there'sa street light between his
property line and the cabinswhere there's three doe, another
good buck.
After we got him we realizedthat other buck still is a
decent buck and he was standingin the shadows and we passed.

(35:22):
We go back and forth probablysix times and Jason's like dude,
he ain't running off.
I think we need to go put thatdeer in the timber and hunt here
in the morning.
He's like I've never huntedhere but he ain't running off.
So we snuck in there, put theblind up, snuck in there.
Yeah, let me tell you, we didnot sneak in there, we woke up

(35:46):
late, we walked out the frontdoor.
No, that night, that night, ohyeah.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
That night we did slip, we slipped in Because we
knew he was there.
But and then that next morningI told Dallas Dallas is my alarm
clock most times because hejust doesn't sleep.
Literally, the past three dayshe has probably slept a total.
Why don't you sleep?
I'm going to say like six orseven hours.
Why don't you sleep?

Speaker 6 (36:09):
You don't know.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
Tell him what you were saying earlier, I guess,
because it's always dark.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Well, like so yesterday I woke up to go duck
hunting yesterday morning up allday, up all night, up all day.
So I was asleep at like 9, 30,10 o'clock and at 1 30 I woke up
and that's what every time hecomes and hunts.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
That's what.
That's the way he sleeps.
He'll sleep a couple of hours,like for four days.
I'm like, dude, what are youdoing?

Speaker 2 (36:34):
but but uh, back on the story that next morning we
woke up late and it's daylight,like it's 6.15.
We're walking across the yardand Jake's like hey, there's a
doe walking across the backyard.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Mind you, we've been hunting.
Dallas ain't killed nothing, soI was kind of hoping he
wouldn't post up and shoot a doein the front yard.
We wouldn't have to do nohunting but we didn't.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
But it's funny because we were walking in and I
was like see you in a minutekind of thing.
When we walked in and Iliterally picked the blind up.
He goes in it, I get in and satdown, we get set up and uh, he
hits that grunt call and all ofa sudden here comes that doe and
, honest to god, I almost saidlet me shoot that doe, but I
didn't.
And she come in and she beddeddown and and he's like dude,
that deer just bedded down Like45 yards in front of us, yeah,
and I was like, yeah.

(37:25):
And when he said that, I waslike are you sure that buck's
not in here already?
And he's like brother, I'mlooking.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
Mind you, I've been, I've been combination grunt call
and snort wheeze and try it.
There was two bucks there andthree dough.
I'm like I know they're goingto be locked down right there.

Speaker 2 (37:43):
He says the whole morning is 10 minutes or
something.
Quite literally, he hits thatthat dough comes in, bends down.
I asked is he in here?
And he said I don't see him.
Well, he hits that grunt callagain and his snort wheezes.
And when he snort wheezes hegoes holy crap, there he is,
right there and 85 yards infront of us.

(38:05):
He had bedded down and when hesnort wheezed he picked his head
up.
Well, when he done that, hemade a mistake.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
Yes, he did.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Well, I'll give it to Jacob because, like Ruth said,
there's two ducks.
That night before, jacob tookthe gun and looked, because he's
going to where he's laid up and, mind you, we had slipped in
and popped this blind up atnight.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
So we're literally it's a hardwood flat.
It's kind of overgrown, but notbad.
There's some open areasgrown,but not bad it's.
It's, there's some open areas,but not a lot.
So what we're looking throughto see this deer is in between
two oaks and of course there'svines grow it all up and
everything.
But we've got a decent window,but all I can see is this side.
No, it would have been that thethe two.
Yes, it's in that side of hismain beam and I can see.

(38:57):
I can't see his body real wellor the backside of his body real
well, but I can see from, like,his rib cage forward.
And so I told Dallas like letme see the gun.
I'm going to make sure it's agood deer, because I didn't.
That other one just didn'tdidn't look like a very good
deer because I didn't realizewhat caliber of deer this was.
Anyhow, got the gun, got on himand he ended up swinging around

(39:18):
and looking at us and I waslike holy crap.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
I was like yeah, dallas it's him, it's him.
Tell them, how you point this.
How does that work?

Speaker 2 (39:24):
So, like we were talking earlier, we try to use a
P-CAM.
I don't know how the podcastworks between dog companies, but
we use a P-CAM and they don'twork.
Everything we tried just wasn'tworking.
So that night before we justtook a pistol laser and zip-tied
it to the scope.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
I literally boresighted a pistol laser on
top of my scope at like 25 yardsin my living room and told him
if this camera doesn't work inthe morning because it's real
bad about not picking up in lowlight and we was hunting this
thing or just coming along andyou'll squeeze the trigger and
it'll shut itself off, likewe've just had.

(40:05):
We've had a bunch of issueswith it anyway.
So we rigged that little laserup and I told him I was like
dude, it's not going to work.
I was like we're just going toclick the laser on and let you
punch it.
And that's our word out thereleft, right up, down, hold,
punch it.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
And so that's what I did, yeah he was behind the bush
and Jacob gets me on him.
He's like I'll punch it.
I shoot and he stands up.
Jacob's like he's up and hesteps.
He goes to walk off and hesteps and then he hard steps
Like he stumbles and Jacob goesget another one in him.

(40:43):
I'm big on shooting twice Ifyou've got a chance to put
another one in him, put anotherone in him and I was shooting a
single shot, .243, and I ejectedthat shell, smacked another one
in it and got back up and goton him again and shot and he
turned.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Like he and got back up and got on him again and shot
and he turned.
He was going like right.
He 180'd it on a dime and wentright back into that timber and
I told him I was like youplugged him that time.
I was like I know you hit himthat time.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Well, we go to the shot site and there's not much
blood, a little bit of lye.
So he's like David, it looksgood.
He's like let's back out andwait.
And then he has a blood dog.
He's like we'll put him on him.
Well, we went to the house forlike four hours and slipped back
out there and me and his mess,you go to the back side of the
block just in case he slips out.
That deer didn't go 25 yardsfrom where he got shot.

Speaker 6 (41:33):
He was stiff as a board.

Speaker 2 (41:40):
But by the grace of God, jacob solved out two shots
Once we got to looking at him.
His back leg was broke from thelast joint down.
His front shoulder wasdislocated and if you I don't
know where the camera was at oranything, but right here you can
see he got nicked.
The first shot that's where ithit.
That's crazy.

(42:02):
That is wild, and so he harshedthat because and then over here
you can feel that the wholereason he harshed that is he
done been hit by a car.
He didn't have a back leg, yeah.
And so he harshed that becausehe was a disabled deer, but yeah
, so Draggling.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
But a little back story.

Speaker 2 (42:27):
I've never seen this deer, you can't make this stuff
up.
Hey, real quick, you can turn afive-gallon bucket sideways on
his rack.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Oh yeah, he's 20 and a half wide at the widest point
and he was 18 wide at the tips.
That's crazy, wow.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Congratulations, that's awesome and another big
thing like just we look ateverything, god, I've been.
I've been blind for seven yearsand I don't think you'll feel
much bigger.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
On seven point, it worked out real cool.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
It's a sign you guys are doing it right.
It worked out real cool.
You are amazing.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
For sure Amazing.
And we've been hunting hard.
I'm talking about hunting hard.
Make old boys want to make somebad decisions.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Hunting hard Like I just got one, yeah, driving Like
we drive anywhere from 10minutes up the road to Two, from
10 minutes up the road to Twohours.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
We're up here going with Brian in the auction shop,
yeah, wherever we drove,literally.
If we got the opportunity andwe've got the funds, we're going
to go try and make it happen.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
I make the joke that I shot him connected to the
Wi-Fi.

Speaker 3 (43:33):
We walked.
We wasn't 50 yards from myhouse when he pulled the trigger
on that deer.
I had never seen that deer ornothing.
Ended up going on a hunt inMississippi and was showing him
off up there, you know, talkingabout him, and my next door
neighbor was actually up thereon the same hunt.
I didn't.
I had never met these peoplebefore in my life.
She's like, oh, that's a deerthat comes through my backyard.
I was like hey, not, no more.

(43:55):
No, he's gone now, he's going tomake a trip to the wall,
that'll be it so what's youguys' goals?

Speaker 6 (44:00):
I mean, do you want to go hunt mule deer?
Do you want to go hunt?

Speaker 2 (44:03):
other places, every thing man Turkey.
Have you ever hunted turkey?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Yes, man, oh my goodness.
That'd be the next thing.
Okay, and they are.
They are because I didn't killthem, but they hooked me.
Golly, they hooked me.
Were you talking about ducks,or what?
No?

Speaker 6 (44:21):
turkey, turkey, turkey, oh my goodness, it's the
business.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
One of my mates, to be real honest, an elk hunt yeah
, mine too.
Just because my grandpa and myuncle always went.
That was like they went everyyear and then my grandpa died.
I ended up getting put in achair.
My uncle had a knee injury, sowe never really.

Speaker 6 (44:40):
What's your mule deer tag?
Don't you have a mule deer tagfor the 15th?
When is it?

Speaker 1 (44:46):
No, it's out.
A mule deer tag is.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
There's also elk in Arkansas yeah, nine there is.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
There is.
Yes, sir, nine is I put in forthat draw every what you mean,
baby.
Yes, sir, I want to kill an elk,an axis and a muley and a bear,
but to put bear no, you'relying my goal and it's going to
sound so stupid, but it's reallynot man and it's changed

(45:14):
drastically in the past twoyears probably, and a lot of it
has been hunting with dallas andseeing the look on his face and
the way he reacts whenever hekilled his first squirrel and
whenever he killed his firstgoose and man, just just
everything falling into placeand uh, I, I really I want to
see it take off and I want to beable to.

(45:35):
Those like the wounded warriorsdo and like you know, I, I want
to make a difference in otherfolks' lives.
I've killed good deer.
I ain't been duck hunting much,but I've killed some ducks.
I've killed a bunch of rabbits,I've killed a bunch of
squirrels and there's just awhole lot of people that ain't
got to kill none of those.
Why do you want to help people?

Speaker 6 (45:53):
That's what God does.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Man, amen.
Honestly, like five years ago,I woke up and realized I had a
purpose, and it wasn't to keepbeing a moral you feel like you
can save people, you feel likeyou can make a difference in
their lives.
The outdoors helps and I don'tknow how everybody feels about
it, but when I go to the woodssometimes there is there is a

(46:15):
little bit of weight on yourshoulders.
There is a little bit of weighton your shoulders there is a
little bit of—.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
You ever get depressed, you ever get sad man.

Speaker 3 (46:19):
Yeah, I've been in a chair.
It'll be 10 years in August andI've probably had like 160 days
.
That was just like I hate this.

Speaker 6 (46:27):
This is terrible.
What happens when you get sadand depressed?
What do you do?

Speaker 3 (46:31):
It ain't going to get better if you keep laying.
I'm not a super positive.

Speaker 6 (46:34):
You better do good big guy.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
You know, I'm like you stupid pain, get up off the
couch and go get something going.

Speaker 6 (46:44):
Do your wife?
I'm sure your wives are verysupportive of what you have to
do.
Oh, my wife is phenomenal.
How has it affected your wives?
I mean, do they get, I mean, dothey keep you motivated, the EU
?

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Depending on what they want to do.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
They still get on TV and stuff.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
What do you mean?

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Come on now, somebody's got to keep us in
check.
They just do it to you, but no,and that's another thing we
didn't get no slack.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
No, no Situation.
I was about to say she knowsthe situation before she came
into this.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
She's like buddy, I ain't cutting you no slack, I
don't remember, but we talkabout it so much.
I'm sorry if I ask somethingtwice, but how long y'all been
married?

Speaker 4 (47:26):
I got married, see, look you put me on the spot and
she's going to watch thisSeveral years October 12th of 20
, was it 20 or 21?

Speaker 3 (47:33):
22.
Okay, so of 2020.
I have been, or 2022, I'm sorry, I have been with my wife for
eight years.
You believe she's your soulmate.
Oh, 100%, absolutely.
We rode around for about amonth, probably before we
actually started dating and Iwas joining a fraternity, so we

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had a little lot and a frathouse and you know places that I
could access and that are easyfor me to get into with a
wheelchair or just park andstuff.
So we'd done that for about amonth and just park and hang out
and talk and get to know eachother.
And then finally, one night shewas like Jacob, I'm tired of
not hanging out somewherecomfortable because you don't
want me to carry you up mystairs to my apartment.

(48:16):
Oh, what a good person.
And I was like, well, if youthink you can do it, let's do it
.
And she carried me up threeflights of stairs.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
Tell them what she weighs.
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (48:24):
Oh, she probably weighs a buck twenty.
Maybe, soaking wet she's alittle and it's like five, four
something.
She's a little video thing.
She did it.
She does, I'm telling you.
But I call her stuck out therein the woods on a track chair
and she'll be at work and she'dbe like, give me 30 minutes,
I'll be out there Like.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
All right, honey, sorry that's awesome Me and my
wife been married three andtogether six.
Really, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 (48:52):
It's amazing.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
It is amazing 27 years and you get where you're
with somebody so long.
You just get scared to deathwhen they're not there.
Yeah, she, she's my best friendand we met us.
And we met at church.
And it's actually crazy because, uh, my dad, like we met at
church, but she had seen mearound town when I should see.
Everybody made me uh, you know,I'm a big, I can't be in a room
without being seen.
I'm big and she had seen mearound and actually had a crush
on me or whatever.
Well, after I got shot, we metand started dating and all that.

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And I was at her mom's houseand I was talking about my dad
he's out now, but he was inprison and her dad is
incarcerated also and I wastelling her about my dad and all
that and her mom was like, hangon, who's your dad?
And I was telling them about mydad and all that and her mom
was like, hang on, who's yourdad?
And I told her and she's likeyour dad and her dad were
cellmates when you got shot andhe called home and asked them to

(49:50):
pray for you, like, just, youknow it's crazy, super small
world.

Speaker 1 (49:54):
It's crazy it is.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
And then my wife was like, hang on, you're Dallas.
I was like, mm-hmm, yeah, I'mDallas.
She's like, no, you're Dallas.
From the Junction I was like, Iguess, yeah, yeah, that's when
she told me.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
She had a crush on me .
Man, that's awesome.
That's a good story, somotivating.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
It's just like honestly, what's funny is my
wife before she met me did notlike hunting.
On camo day at school shewouldn't even wear camo.
Does she like hunting now?
She don't like waking up early,but she'll go occasionally.
But the happiest, the happiestI've ever seen her is when she

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shot a stock deer.

Speaker 6 (50:43):
Oh, she was happy.
So she hunts with you.
So she hunts with you.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
She has some yeah.

Speaker 6 (50:48):
So she's making a difference in your life.
She loves you, yeah, and shedoes it for you, and it's such
an awesome story.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Yeah, but now that Jacob takes me, I don't drag her
out there as much, but does shewant to go, or does she just
let the boys be boys?

Speaker 3 (51:02):
No, we normally, if we're going to be together,
she's like, yeah, y'all got tohandle this.

Speaker 2 (51:08):
My wife has bad anxiety so going out in the
woods in the dark and we seen abig cat one time driving down
the road where we're from andwhen she seen that she's like I
ain't ever going again and I waslike you know, but she will go,
she will.
She just don't like going onpublic.

(51:28):
Yeah, I don't blame her.
Yeah.
The first year I drug her onpublic me.
Her and my daughter went outthere and took a pallet or two
and just kind of brushed us in alittle wall.
Daughter went out there andtook a pallet or two and just
kind of brushed us in a littlewall.
And we went down there theweekend before opening weekend
and somebody had tore it downand it and my wife got mad and
was like I ain't hunting itagain she's like we spent so

(51:50):
much time on that and somebodyjust tore it down.
I was like people are jerks.
Yeah, they are.

Speaker 6 (51:56):
And they can be when you go to public.
Do people make fun of you Inpublic?

Speaker 2 (52:01):
Yeah, People have stared at me.
Jacob will say stuff to him too.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
No, no, no, no, no.
How do you tell him thatsomebody's staring at him?
I don't tell him.
I ask him what they're lookingat.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
I fight people over handicapped parking spots and I
don't tell him.

Speaker 6 (52:18):
I ask him what they're looking at.
I got you.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
Yeah, no, I fight people over handicapped parking
spots and I don't use them.
I do not use them.

Speaker 6 (52:24):
I don't have a handicap tag.
I don't have a handicap tageither.
I got you, but there aresincerely there's 90-year-old
women that can't walk 25.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah, there's people who need them.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
Yeah, you ain't finna .
Take that spot, buddy, not infront of me.
I got you Washington.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Public.
I've had people go what the,but one time I went out to the
bar with my buddy right after Iwent blind and I was walking out
and he's like, hey, the truck'sin front of you and I reached
out to grab the hood so I canfind the vehicle and touch it, I
can get where I need to go.

(52:59):
And I accidentally grabbed thisguy's shoulder and he's like no
, I don't play that.
And I was like dude, I'm blind,I'm sorry.
He's like no, I don't play that.
And I was like man, I'm blind.
And I didn't have my I'm blind.
And finally he's like I don'tgive a crap that you're blind

(53:20):
and my blind chain sound like atent pole.
It'll fold up to about a footlong and it has an outdoor tent
on it which is about four inchesin diameter and it's solid.
And I folded that blind chainup and I said, well, have you
ever been whooped by a blind guy?
And yeah, the bouncers put mein that truck so fast.

(53:40):
I swear, I swear I done told himI'm finna, get him a hockey
mask and we just gonna let someold boy have it one day but no,
you know, I don't try to fightno more, cause that was a big
thing with me before and I usedto fight all the time like I
loved it, loved it, loved it,loved it, you loved fighting.

Speaker 6 (53:57):
Oh yeah, Why'd you like fighting for him?

Speaker 2 (54:00):
I grew up pretty rough and it was just something
I did.
The people you hung out withwhat do you mean?
They needed me to fight.
Oh, I got you, but I liked theadrenaline rush Of fighting.
Yeah, yeah, I liked boxing Likejust boxing, just the
adrenaline, and I was good at it.
I got you, yeah.

Speaker 4 (54:20):
I've spent the last three days with these guys and
it does not.
It's just wild.
Well, brian, it definitely.

Speaker 6 (54:26):
I mean, it's just.
It definitely motivates you tobe a better person, for sure.
How could you not be?
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
How can you sit around and smile?

Speaker 1 (54:36):
I think because we're out there just going through
all these challenges and justkeep pushing, keep doing it.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
It's like why would you ever have an excuse for
anything?
No, they took me.
That's right, they took mehunting.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
We had a good time.
We had a good time and Iappreciate it for sure, brother.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Man, I appreciate y'all no thank you man, I think
it's been better for me thany'all.

Speaker 5 (54:57):
It's been a blast, ain't no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
It's just unbelievable what y'all can do.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
It's looking like it might be for us too.
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (55:06):
Like.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
I said when doors have been opening and stuff's
been happening, man, it's beenhappening this year, 2025, is
going to be something.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
It is Brian.
You're making my dreams cometrue.
It's going to be a green headin September.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 (55:19):
I mean thank you, yes , sir.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
And we were talking about wives a while ago and mine
sees this podcast and see howmuch I'm focused in on this
conversation.
She's going to be big mad.
Why can't you focus on me thatmuch?
It's a story you've got tolisten to.
It is.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
It's inspiration.
That's why God kept us here.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
There's hundreds of them.
I'm telling you, they uhcameras.
We gonna mess around and get uswhat we need.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
Y'all need to, guys.
The whole world needs to heary'all's stories that food plant
hunt you couldn't have remade it.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
You can't remake it Like everything we've been doing
.
It's just.

Speaker 4 (55:58):
Hey, let's blow your mind again.
We saw your first duck.
We saw your second duck.
We've seen your deer Tell themhow we got those ducks in.
Why don't you show them what doyou got around your neck Bo?

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I got some calls so real quick.
Like I said, my bottom jaw ismy fibula, top scapula.
It didn't happen.
Honestly, I cried because mypassion is hunting birds.
After about a year or so, Iwent and got a call that I

(56:32):
always hunted with just a ZekePH2.
Yes, sir, oh yeah, by the graceof God, baby.

Speaker 4 (56:48):
We're out there standing by a tree and he goes
y'all get ready, the migration'sfixing it.
Yeah, yeah, I lost it he startshitting that call, I'm like you
can blow a duck call.
He said yeah, I can blow a duckcall y'all going duck hunting
tomorrow they're going home.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
All we waiting on is an invite yeah, yeah, and
they're going home.
All we're waiting on is aninvite, and it's cold front
pushing through.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Oh yeah, yeah we're ready to go whenever.
It's funny because we'recalling it.
He told me he said get thembirds with that migration.
I was calling and they didn'tcome.
He's like what happened.
I said my son must have blewhis duck.

Speaker 3 (57:26):
He got something for everything.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
That's so funny, dude we need to call Drake Butler
and get him on the.
Yeah, shackley.
Yeah, you take care of that, Iwill.
We also got Freddie King too.
We'll take.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
We'll go with Freddie King and keep these guys busy
absolutely Drake Butler's dealwill be right there, close to
y'all too, yes, drake Butlerwill be really close.
We were talking the other day,awesome, awesome.

Speaker 4 (57:48):
There's that old saying a blind squirrel finds an
acorn.
Every now and again I'll get mysquirrel mounted like that.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
His first squirrel is going to be mounted.
We just dropped it off thetaxidermist not long ago.
A blind duck hunter will find amallard every now and again.
There you go, there you go.
His squirrel is going to bestood up.
With a blind cane Looking for awalnut out the front of his
head, y'all got the best senseof humor, dude.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
That's what makes it so great.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
It's so good you know it's like y'all's adventures
are going on.
That's what everybody enjoysthe most about hunting.

Speaker 6 (58:19):
I just don't, I just can't even wrap my head around
it.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Y'all are more positive than most people.
You don't have any issues.

Speaker 3 (58:25):
My biggest deal is Even myself In high school, when
you had that teacher that youwalked into class and you knew
she was going to be angry.
You knew she was going to beupset, you knew she was going to
be mad about something, so thewhole class sucked, whereas you
had that one teacher that reallydidn't know what he was doing
and really wasn't a greatteacher but had a good sense of
humor, and that class rocked man.

(58:46):
Literally.
The expression on your face canchange somebody's whole day and
I try to roll around with asmile.
That's right.
And like you see somebody in anegative situation, like Dallas
this sucker nine times out often.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
He's grinning ear to ear.
Every morning I pull up to pickhim up.
Dallas is outside, just smiling.
He hears my truck and he's justout there on the porch he's
just ready.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Here's my truck and he's just out there on the port.
He's just ready.
I'm ready, man.
I say this a lot to people likehow do you do it, man?
I legit, when I woke up in thehospital I handed it all over to
the good Lord, and the amountof peace I have, and I know
that's where I get.
You know what I mean.
So I just give it all to Godhonestly, and I do that every

(59:32):
time something goes bad, everytime something's good, it's God.
I do what I do for God.
I'm here because of God.
So that's my big thing.
And the Bible says try to beChristlike.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
Yes, sir and I don't know why God put all this
together, but he did, and Ibelieve that 100%.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
This is not an accident.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
You're not standing here for an accident.

Speaker 2 (59:56):
My biggest fear in life is going blind.
Growing up, I had a disabledsister with cerebral palsy and
she was blind Her whole life.
I'd tell her if I could take itaway from her I would, but she
was blind and her whole life.
I'd tell her if I could take itaway from her I would, but she
was invincible.
She didn't.
You know.
Well, she died April 5th 2017,and I was shot and went blind
April 23rd.

(01:00:17):
It was meant it was meant tohappen and, as odd as that is,
you know, here I am.
I do it for her.
I do it for her, I do it foreverybody, you know you don't
have to be miserable you don'thave to be miserable.
Yes, sir, it's a choice in God.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
A hundred percent.
A hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
And y'all's story is life changing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Man, I mean really, and that literally that's like
brave, which his little hashtagor whatever is brave and blind,
and that's literally that's ouroutlook behind it, Like just to
let everybody know it doesn'tmatter what your situation is,
man, If you go into it with apositive attitude and knowing
you're going to get it done.
You might hit some obstaclesalong the way and it might not

(01:01:04):
work out perfect, but you're outthere doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I love it.
One thing I tell Brian everyday I wake up I'm not like, oh,
I'm blind.
Obviously, I wake up and all Isee is black.
I look at this as a normalsituation and just do what you
got to do.
You know the awning needs totake him off the camper.
Take the awning off the camper,Feel about it, Feel how it's

(01:01:31):
put together, and take it off,and there's no kind of thing you
know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:34):
There's been situations I'd be mad, going
through the car looking forsomething I've lost or whatever,
and just walk away from it.
Here and there I'd be like it'sunder your seat.
I'm like dude, leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Leave me alone.
One time he fought with atripod because we were trying to
get it to where we could recordand our tripod didn't have a
thing to hold a phone.

Speaker 3 (01:01:54):
So we were taking like three pieces of.
Gopro equipment, some Tacticamequipment, a tripod we bought at
Walmart.
Anyway, I could not make itwork.
I tried for like 45 minutes toput it together in different
ways and then to make it holdthe phone securely.
Could not do it.
I literally walked away from it, rolled away from it for like
five minutes and Dallas was likewill this work?

(01:02:16):
Got it all there set up?
I was like dude, I'm an idiot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
I love it.
It's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
I've got another story I want to hear.
I've already heard it, but Iwant you all to tell it.
We've talked about ducks, we'vetalked about geese and we've
talked about bucks.
I want to hear about this gator.
What do you all got?
Let's tell about the alligator.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Gator hunt was awesome.
I don't know if I it is aprivate hole, a good buddy I
know from a little bit afterhigh school it literally we've
talked about it several times,about coming down there and
putting something together, andfinally I was like man, I got to
do this.
So I reached out to him andtold him kind of what I had
planned.
I was wanting to bring Dallaswith me, uh, and if we were
successful, I'd try and takesomebody, you know, somebody

(01:02:59):
else with disabilities downthere and get on a gator Anyhow.
So we ended up going down thereand, uh, the first right out of
the gate we got on a monsterI'm talking about.
His head was probably anywherefrom 18 to 24 inches, like it
was just from nose to the backof his eyes.
It was just stupid.
Well, uh, we got up on him andI'd been talking to the, to the

(01:03:22):
person we was hunting with onthe property we're hunting and
you tell they'd killed quite afew gators and they just hadn't
updated their equipment verymuch.
And I told him you know, if weend up sticking a good one, I
don't know if that cable's gonnahold.
Well, we stuck a good one andthat cable did not hold, uh.
But anyway, later that night weended up or well, came back,
came back the next night and, uh, we had built a pole at our

(01:03:44):
house and then used their orfixed their too, got new cables
and new points for their poleand got out there and it is
super, super exhilarating.
Relatively easy, not going tolie, if you've got gators it's
relatively easy.
I know for a fact next yearI'll be able to have Dallas on.
I'll definitely be able to makeit happen for Dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:04:06):
Oh, so you think you'll get Dallas on?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
Oh yeah, yes, able to have dallas on, like I'll
definitely be able to make ithappen for dallas.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
You think you'll get down, oh yeah yes, I just said
out of respect.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
Tag this year is three hundred dollars and it
wasn't yeah, it just wasn'tideal for us to to do all that
at once and he could be on myteam to be able to hunt.
So right, it worked out, uh,but anyway, I ended up.
We got on one.
He was looking at him, that waslike he's probably about a
seven-footer and I was like it'sa gator.

Speaker 6 (01:04:29):
I don't care how big he is, he's legal.

Speaker 3 (01:04:31):
I'm going to stick him.
So we got up on him and wechased this dog for probably a
quarter mile across this oxbowand through this oxbow and
finally we just tired him outand he surfaced.
And I Tired him out and hesurfaced and I stuck him and the
fight was on.
Man, it was really exhilaratingfeeling that line tense up and

(01:04:58):
I was going to say, actually myhands were not in the exact spot
, I should have had them.
So I've got one hand on thefront of the boat and I've got
the other rod in my hand.
So when the line tightens upit's off the back of that rod.
So it came straight across myhand and I was like, oh, I
realized how much power thatsucker had.
Oh, yeah, yeah, they do.
So we're getting ready todispatch him, we're trying to
tie him out so we can get him tofloat up to the top of the
water easily, to dispatch him.

(01:05:19):
And we're letting Dallas workthe line and he's pulling him in
and finally the gator comes tothe top.
Well, instead of just coming tothe top, he starts death
rolling.
So I'm telling Dallas feed himline, feed him line.
Well, dallas is like letting mynewts amount of line, like he's
giving inches when his gatorneeds miles.
And finally my other buddysteps up there and like yanks

(01:05:42):
the line out of Dallas' hand.
It's like, dude, give him someline.
And Dallas was going to pull an8'1 alligator up in the boat
with us.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
It was legit.
I told him I was like I ain'tworried about it until he
touches me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
It was wild, but we got him dispatched and then
later that night, my wife endedup getting an 8'9 alligator.
So, yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
And while we were out there, we hit a pond.
So, yeah, it was awesome.
And while we were out there, wehit a pond, Because there's a
couple pools out there.
We went to one pond that wasinfested with bullfrogs.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
Oh yeah, I'm talking about you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
It was crazy.
We have to film a bullfrog hunt.
Yeah, you think you'd be up forthat, dallas.

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Oh, I'm down for anything.
We tried that and, like I said,our main gig was we was trying
to get on gators but we seen allthem frogs and I was like man,
there ain't no way we can't nottry.
He's talked about snagging them.
You want to try and catch somefrogs.
So we tried.
With everything we do, it takesa little bit of trial and error
.

Speaker 6 (01:06:40):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Now we're going to rig a little glove with a net on
top of it, because he washitting them every time.
He top of it.
Because he was hitting themevery time, he just wasn't
closing his hand quick enough sothey would just get out left or
right.
So I got with just a glove witha net on.
He's catching frogs.

Speaker 2 (01:06:54):
Jake just said I'm going to start throwing stuff at
you, so you have to have thereflex.

Speaker 4 (01:07:00):
So the second night I got to tell this story.
This is too good not to tell.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
So the second night, they're here, we have them over
for tacos and by the way we madethat elk.

Speaker 3 (01:07:11):
Oh sure yeah, from Elk Tacos Sugar, delicious,
delicious, son Elk, I love elk.

Speaker 4 (01:07:15):
I love elk, oh crazy.
So anyway, we're there eatingand me and my wife are sitting
at the table.
My aunt comes down to bring mylittle boy his Christmas present
and my cousin's with him.
He's like 21 years old, hisname's Matthew.
Matthew walks in and he's likeno way.
I'm like what are you talkingabout?
He's like that's Dallas.

(01:07:35):
I'm like what are you talkingabout what?
How do you know Dallas?
He's like dude.
They got a viral TikTok video.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
We're working on it, man.
I'm telling you.

Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
This is not about videos.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Oh no, this is crazy, yes, sir.
So my cousin says I've seenthem on TikTok.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
I'm like, no, you haven't.
He goes, dude, I promise theygot a video out there.
It's got over a million views,a load and a four-wheeler.
I'm like, seriously, he saidall of these people, he knew
them before.
I did, Really.
And when he walked in he's likethat's Dallas.

Speaker 6 (01:08:08):
I've seen you before.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
That's crazy.
We're trying to make it.
We're trying to make it.
We're going to help you make itokay.

Speaker 6 (01:08:16):
We appreciate that we appreciate it the way I feel
you know about it.
You know the Havoc boat, so I'mblessed to meet you guys for
sure we're definitely blessed.

Speaker 3 (01:08:28):
We've had like I said , we've had an awesome three
days of hunting.
We've seen more ducks in thepast three days than we've seen
in the past three months sowe've been looking for them.

Speaker 5 (01:08:36):
So where exactly was y'all at?
In the water, in the water?

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
I'm trained to.
You're gonna get quizzed onwhere you were at.
Just tell them you were in somewater.
In the water Dallas is like Icouldn't see.
I don't know where we're at.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
We went left and right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:57):
And evidently Brian didn't drive like the Brian I
know, with y'all in the boatwith him.
No, he already jumped a stomp,not yet.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
No, hey, he jumped a stomp he should build a house
out of, and I about had to go tothe chiropractor.
Hey, I will say, shout out tothe Havoc Boats that Freedom
Motor, that's a bad little motor, it is.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
It put some work in.
I was impressed as well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
I've always been a mud motor guy.
But that Freedom Motor it'sdifferent.
Y'all go buy a freedom motor.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
It's very versatile.
It's very versatile.
It is.
It's quiet.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
We were running up down through there.
It was just a bad spot.
You just got to hit it, I hitit, we went airborne and jumped
over this.

Speaker 5 (01:09:45):
He's like oh my goodness he said I didn't see it
coming.

Speaker 6 (01:09:49):
What are you?

Speaker 4 (01:09:49):
trying to do break my back and put me in a wheelchair
.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
Dude, we'd die.
We'd be bad off, then We'd haveto find another blind guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
God, y'all got such a good Y'all do, man, y'all got
such a good.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
I'm so glad y'all never made a glad, I know we can
talk about funny stories allday long, it's funny, but gosh,
dang it.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
We'll have to get back on it.
It still blows my mind.
It blows my mind too.
For an example, the Bo companystruggled last year due to the
election and everything else.
We worked our butts off.
It's just amazing that I canget upset or depressed or

(01:10:30):
whatever, but you guys have.
I have everything in the worldto be proud of, but you guys are
like better than me, man.
It's just, I worked my wholelife to get where I'm at today
and I got a lot of people hateme.
Then I got a lot of people thatdepend on me to make good
decisions, man, but I'm nothingcompared to what you guys are

(01:10:51):
and that is so freaking awesome.
And I don't think youunderstand how good and how you
change our lives, as much as wecan maybe help you.
Well, we appreciate it you know, I just don't.
Nobody here understands it.
I know Brian thinks deep likethat.
I'm an overthinker.
You know I have a sister thathas CP.

(01:11:12):
Oh man, and I've been raisedaround you know handicaps and
wheelchairs and stuff like that.
You probably guys probablydidn't know that, but you know
it's just amazing how positiveyou guys are and how terrible I
am at certain things and it's ablessing to meet you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
We met a young man.
It was probably a month ago.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Thank you for that Thank you for that for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
But we met a young man probably a month ago, maybe
two months ago, named Scooter,out of Mississippi, and he was
in a real bad wreck, caused somesignificant brain injury.
He ended up gaining back.
I think it was like 98% of hiscognitive ability, but basically
0% of his.

(01:12:02):
He's non-vocal.
Yeah, he's non-vocal.
He's not mobile.
You ask that man if he likedkilling deer.
You ask like because he'skilled some studs, he's been on
some good hunts.
You go to talking about huntingwith him and he just lights up
the room.
Man, it's about that.
And I got to carry a young man.

(01:12:22):
It was last year.
I carried a young man.
He had autism and his.
It was last year.
I carried a young man.
He had autism, yeah, and hisfamily wouldn't carry him
hunting because he wouldn't bestill in the blind.
You know he just he wasautistic, he had some cliques,
he'd done some things, but wegot out there and had an awesome
hunt.
I'm talking about Y'all arechanging people's lives and it
was fantastic ended up killinghim a doe.

(01:12:45):
It was just just seeing ithappen.
It's literally like before thehunt.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
You see this person that, yeah, they might be
excited about going hunting, andI'd like to add, just not even
like, because it's happenedseveral times, but the whole
change in people's lives.
Man, throughout these sevenyears, I cannot put a number on
the amount of strangers who havemessaged me and told me that

(01:13:12):
they're still alive and here tobe a daddy or a mother to their
kids because of me.
And I don't know who thesepeople are.

Speaker 6 (01:13:20):
Well, you're inspiring people yeah, your
strength, your confidence inlife and your family supports
you and people like Brian thatlooks at Facebook.
Brian has the biggest heart inthe world and sometimes I get on
to him about that, but, nomatter what, brian always proves
me wrong.
And I'm the business guy onthis end, right?

(01:13:42):
So I'm the strict guy.
I'm always the one that'strying to make everybody better
and motivated.
I've got to pay a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
Yeah, the more you got.
You know, trying to makeeverybody better and motivated,
I got to pay a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (01:13:53):
Yeah, the more you got, the more you got to lose.
There's a lot of people thatdepend on me.
There's a lot of people I pissoff on every day and I got to be
the bad guy every time, butBrian always seems to make me
better, and you know.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
That's like me and Dallas.
I'm the bad guy too.

Speaker 6 (01:14:07):
It's okay, I understand we're 72 hours into
this journey, but you guys, mayyou know y'all make a difference
in people's lives, including mylife and Brandon's life and
everybody in this room and youjust I don't think you guys
understand what you do forpeople, and y'all are wonderful
people thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
We're standing at a duck hole.
We're 72 hours into thisrelationship.
We do need to go show the boatplant.
Yeah, for sure, for sure, we're72 hours into this.

Speaker 6 (01:14:34):
We're going to talk to these guys tomorrow, the next
day.
We're going to talk to you guysforever.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 (01:14:42):
This life will end.

Speaker 3 (01:14:43):
Yes, sir, yes, I was telling Dallas at the second.
I feel like we got a prettygood click.

Speaker 6 (01:14:47):
I think you were brought here from.
I feel like he was brought herefor me.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
You know, I appreciate that, and I think
everybody receives thisinformation differently oh 100
percent, and that's what I wasalso going to say, man.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Oh, a lot of people are quick to look at my
situation or Dallas's situationand be like, well, they've got
it bad, they've got a lot worsethan me, or whatever.
But at the same time, man,everybody's problems are as big
to them as they're not to you,if that makes sense, because
there's some people thatstruggle with anxiety Dude, just
like he'll tell me.

Speaker 4 (01:15:25):
He's saying you know it's terrible to be blind, but
I'm not dead.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
You're like I'm in a wheelchair, but I'm not blind.

Speaker 4 (01:15:31):
Exactly, it's everyone, and that's how you
have to look at situations wewere standing in a duck hole
with six people, and three ofthe six people in that hole are
disabled.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
One's in a wheelchair .

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
One's blind, one's missing a leg, and heck yeah,
the Crips they were killingducks.
Dallas is like we're in herehunting with the Crips today
it's just awesome.
Yeah, it's awesome.
I want to tell one more story.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
Come on brother we're huggers and kissers.

Speaker 6 (01:15:58):
I want to show them some boats.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
We're huggers and kissers in my family, so he goes
to leave my house after we havesex.

Speaker 6 (01:16:03):
I know you always try to hug me all the time.

Speaker 4 (01:16:05):
I'll kiss you too.

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
I don't want to kiss you.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Dallas will hug you, so I lean over and I hug, kiss
my aunt and I was like hey, youknow, thanks for coming, and
Matthew was there.
He knows that these arecelebrities, tiktok.

Speaker 3 (01:16:16):
Working on it.

Speaker 4 (01:16:17):
And so we always say see you later, well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Dallas.
Tell him Dallas, what do yousay?
I'll hear you or another.
Make sure to eye out for you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:36):
Dude, we'll be sitting in the deer stand and
I'll be.
You know, Dallas, he will notlet you fall asleep unless he's
asleep.
I'm talking about, like, howdoes he know you're asleep?
I?

Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
have no idea.
I guess my breathing changesdude.
I don't know.
I have no idea, but every timeI changes dude, I don't know, I
have no idea.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
But, every time I go to nod off, he's like Jacob.
Jacob, are you awake?

Speaker 2 (01:16:53):
He'll be like wake me up if you hear something, bro.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
every 30 seconds I'm getting knocked on the shoulder.
There's a squirrel.
There's a leaf fell 100 yardsout there in Dallas, harvard.
You'll be in the hole and he'llbe like the ducks are in here.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
I'm like, yeah, I'm about to tell you to shoot and
he's like I know andlegitimately it's crazy, it's
wild, it's wild.
I know you got something to say, but even with this band I got
the night before I was like howcrazy would it be if God let my
first bird be a banded bird.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Show.
Birdie, knocked out of the skywas a banded bird and one more
short.
I know we're fitting to go Onemore short on this.
We was early archery inArkansas right, it was the night
before.
We're getting everything ready.
We've had two studs on cameraconsistently.
It's going to happen.
Dallas is like dude.
It's going to be crazy if we goin there in the morning and
both our target deer arestanding in front of us.
So back to cameras not beingfantastic for us.
I'm working on trying to getthe camera set up.

(01:17:50):
They got us set up in the blind, got his bow put up where it
needs to be, got my compoundhung up.
Like we're ready.
I'm trying to get the camerason, trying to get the cameras on
.
Camera's saying connected,disconnected, connected,
disconnected, and I look up andboth of them my target buck is
walking in the wood line and hisis standing at 10 yards looking
at me like what you doing,homie?

(01:18:10):
It wasn't nothing I could doabout it.
I could have shot him, but Iwas like Dallas, I blew this
hunt for us.
Brother.
I'm sorry, it is what it is.
It ain't what it ain't, butthey didn't.
One of them ended up gettingkilled this year.
One of them ended up gettingkilled this year.
One of them made it, so we'regood He'll be around next year.
Did y'all bow hunt?
Did?

Speaker 2 (01:18:29):
y'all bow hunt.
Yes, sir, you did bow hunt.
Yes, sir, I hadn't killednothing with a bow yet.
All right, we got a spot foryou All right, we're going to
make it happen.

Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
All right, we'll get it ready for you.
I've kind of started well, I'vedone a little bit last year but
reaching out to other propertyowners and kind of trying to
expand a little bit, because on120 acres you can only host so
many hunts.
You know it's not like you canjust you won't be able to do it
next year, you know type deal,so we try to stay off.

(01:19:02):
If me and Dallas are hunting,nine times out of ten, we're
hunting public land.
If I'm hunting solo, I'mdefinitely hunting public land.
We're hunting public land.
If I'm hunting solo, I'mdefinitely hunting public land.
That private hole down therewe're working on turning about
five acres into a little threeto six inch flooded timber spot
for ducks next year.
We got a lot of stuff in themix, man.
A lot of stuff in the mix.
It's been coming to life.

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
Havoc Boats is always leading by an example.
That's what we always say,right, no matter how much people
hate us, and you guys are trulyliving that we're trying.
We're trying, man, man, it'sjust amazing, man.

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
Y'all are so awesome, man, and they're not just
living, they're thriving, andsurviving Brian.

Speaker 6 (01:19:43):
I just can't wrap my mind around how positive they
are.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
I don't want them to go home.
You're not getting me back towork.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
I'm just going to spend the rest of the season In
a duck hole in a bad situation,or in the deer woods in a bad
situation.
You're not going to upset.
Dallas.
I promise it don't matterwhat's going on.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
You guys make a bad situation good.
Yes, sir, you're happy peopleand it's contagious, and your
spirits and your personalitiesand the way you believe in it is
just contagious.
It's a gift.
It's a gift from God.
Yes, sir, it is yes, sir andman.
I thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
I thank y'all.
Like I said, I appreciate theopportunity to even be here.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
It's awesome, it's just awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:20:28):
It's heartwarming, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
I thank y'all.
Like I said, I appreciate theopportunity to even be here.
This is awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
I mean it's just awesome.
It's heartwarming.
For sure Y'all have a story ofthe world.
Yeah, when I looked at Brian'sFacebook.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
I tried to get to him .
I was like I think he works forHazard.

Speaker 4 (01:20:41):
Yeah, yeah, obviously we had no idea what we was
walking into when we decided tocome on a little old duck hunt.
And, and I'll be honest, I'veseen your comment and I've seen
the people that were not beingnice.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
Oh man, I've seen good people and there are, there
are.

Speaker 4 (01:20:50):
But it would surprise you at the people that, and
honestly I think they're jealousof your happiness.
A hundred percent, absolutely.
I honestly, think there'speople jealous of y'all I have
and those people want to hate.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
I've lost a couple of buddies that I've yeah, I've
lost a couple of buddies thatI've.
Most haters are jealous.
I've lost a couple of buddiesthat I've became friends with
that were in chairs and stufflike that, simply because, man,
they've just got a negativeoutlook and are always mad about
something and don't want helpbecause they can do it their
self and man that ain't no wayto live life.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
I've got people I know that are watching this.
That ain't no way to live life.

Speaker 5 (01:21:26):
There's going to be a bunch of people see this
podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Hi, just to add.
Yeah, y'all can holler at thesame time.
Anybody that does make the talk.

Speaker 6 (01:21:39):
Daniel and David and all this.
How about your wives?
Your wives want to come up hereon the podcast.
We can definitely make thathappen.
Okay, because we make thathappen and figure out let's get
where they live and send thetrucks to get them and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:21:53):
Absolutely, didn't you have.

Speaker 6 (01:21:56):
Y'all are amazing is all I can say.
I can say it a hundred thousandtimes.

Speaker 1 (01:22:01):
Well, I appreciate it , brother.
Yeah, it's inspiration man.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
It's inspiration, man .
It's really just like it makesyou sit and think and it's like
god, look at what you take forgranted.
Oh yeah, that's what that runsthrough my head every day.
What I used to take for granted.
Yeah, me too, like man, I, Itook so much for granted
literally every day of my life.
And now, when you, when youwake up and you don't kick your
legs out of the bed and theydon't hit the floor and you
don't walk to the bathroom, ithits you different, but it's not
a negative different, it's nota hey, your day's going to suck,

(01:22:34):
it's a hey, you got it a littlebit different.

Speaker 6 (01:22:37):
You got to be a little bit tougher.
You did good, Ryan Jessen.
Thanks, buddy.

Speaker 4 (01:22:43):
We've never done this before, but I made them a
promise.

Speaker 3 (01:22:47):
Oh God, Uh-oh.

Speaker 4 (01:22:48):
Tim, what I made them a promise, why They'd come on
the podcast and talk to us underone condition.
What's that?
That Dallas could end it in aclosing prayer.
Understood Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Dear Lord, thank you for this day.
Lord, Lord, just thank you forallowing us to come on this
podcast.
Lord, Lord, just thank you forsaving Jacob and I the days of
our accident, so we can be aninspiration and point people
towards you.
Lord, Lord, just thank you forgreat friends and good people,
Lord, and the ones that aren'tgood, Let us be a light to make
them good, Lord, just so we allcan end up in the glorious place

(01:23:22):
of heaven with you.
Lord, and just thank you forjust waking us up today, and
thank you for the hunt thisweekend and just forgive us for
where we fell, you and Jesus man, amen.

Speaker 4 (01:23:32):
Amen, dallas, jacob, thank y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
Yes, sir, thank you.
Like I said, it's been ablessing.
It's been a blessing.
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