April 14, 2025 • 48 mins
What drives a Wisconsin teenager to murder his parents in a twisted plan to assassinate a former president? How does comedy legend Rosie O'Donnell form an unlikely bond with convicted murderer Lyle Menendez? When does aggressive basketball play cross the line into criminal assault?
The OK Bud podcast tackles these mind-bending questions head-on as hosts Ben Kissel, Jerry Aquino, and Kyle Plouffe navigate through the strangest headlines they've encountered lately. From the 17-year-old who allegedly killed his mother and stepfather to fund an assassination plot against Donald Trump (complete with disturbing neo-Nazi connections), to the helicopter tour company offering massive discounts after a fatal crash, the crew explores the darkest corners of human behavior with their signature mix of shock, humor, and unexpected insight.
The conversation takes a fascinating turn when they discuss Rosie O'Donnell's years-long friendship with Lyle Menendez, revealing how shared trauma created an unexpected bond between the comedian and the convicted murderer. Meanwhile, a high school basketball player faces adult felony charges for breaking an opponent's nose during a game, sparking debate about where we draw the legal line in competitive sports.
Perhaps most relatable is the tale of an apprentice mechanic who threatened to mess with a coworker's toolbox after someone tampered with his lunch, leading to his dismissal and a workplace "tribunal" that feels straight out of a sitcom. Through it all, the hosts bring their trademark perspective to these bizarre stories, reminding us that sometimes the truth really is stranger than fiction.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:03):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
Isn't that exciting.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
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Who knows Any stories you wantto tell us?
Yes, yeah.
Yes, we have a couple of We'vegot a story.
Yes, we do have a story we'regoing to start off with here.
We also have a couple ofupdates to get to will be very
exciting.
Okay, let's go to the emails.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Ring it up.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
What about our emails ?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Who's emailing?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
What about our emails ?
What about the emails?
Let me see your emails.
Are pizza orders in there?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Or electronic mail.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Pizza means child.
Yes, what?
That's what I learned from theconspiracy web.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
When people want to order a pizza they're ordering a
child Traffic child.
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, Covered in marinara oh no.
Yeah, and then you got to eatthe pepperonis off them.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, that doesn't sound very good.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
No, it's like a strip club that has the sushi on top
of the person there lying thereand that's all disgusting.
Yeah, isn't that kind of weird,throw it all out it seemed
thorny.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I mean, just Kyle's kid could cut my finger off,
just clean off with like twoteeth.
Oh, he's devastated.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, strange, I don't want to be near one of
those for food?
Absolutely not.
No, well, that's the thing, allright.
Well, this story comes in fromDaisy.
Speaking of children, didn'tall of us take a bus at some
point?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, we sure did, isn't that fun.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Varying lengths, one varying lengths varying lengths
some were the short bus, somewere the long bus.
I was in a long bus but I'm sotall it was the short bus to me
and if you grew up in new yorkcity.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Sometimes it's the public bus oh, yeah, that's true
.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, that's sad.
Yeah, that just sounds sucks.
Uh, she says on episode 44 youtalked about the woman who maybe
got hit by a bus.
That was virginia goufret.
Yeah, yes who is back in thenews, but I don't even care
anymore, because that's a wholeother thing.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That they have to work out themselves.
We put it to rest.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
We put that to rest.
She says I lived way out in thecountry, growing up to the
point that the car bus routetook over an hour to get us to
school and from All.
Throughout elementary school wehad the worst driver because
she was the only one willing towork that route.
Wow, so didn't you have thebest driver?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah right, come on, yeah, so true.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
They say we had three wrecks under her until she had
to retire because she had aheart attack while driving us.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, my God, oh my.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
God, yeah, that's kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, if she pulled over safely, kudos on her.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I don't think she did .
She says twice we just hitsomebody's car, but the
memorable wreck was the last one.
She took a turn too shallow andour bus literally flipped over
into a ditch.
Oh damn, the windows were onthe floor and we were all
standing on them after gettingthrown around like maracas, oh
(03:30):
my.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
God.
Well, it's a good thing, kidsare durable.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
They're also pretty buoyant.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh, you can't kill a kid.
You really got to try.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
You have to try so hard.
They'll bounce.
They'll melt.
They're like a cat.
They'll melt.
They're like a cat.
When they squeeze underneathdoors and just all of a sudden
flatten themselves, they getunder weird shit.
You're like how'd you get there?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
When I hang out with Caden, kyle's kid, when Kyle's
not looking, I'll bend his armsoff.
It's freaking weird, doesn'tfeel it?
No, she goes on to say as anadult.
Now, looking back, I'mhorrified, but I remember that
being the best bus ride ever.
We got to climb along the backof the seats like we were
Spider-Man.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, that's actually pretty cool, Just like climbing
on top of the bus like, ah,lord of the Flies.
Yeah, it's fun.
Not really yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And the teacher has a heart, the bus driver has a
heart attack.
You gotta laugh and stuff.
You don't take anythingseriously because death isn't
real yet.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, yeah, it's just like oh, big adventure.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But also they had like a work-level commute to
their school An hour to and fromfor school.
I would hate that so much.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Lunchbox is flying.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
That's a good thing.
That means you got to wake uptoo early.
Yeah, 5 am.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Depending on what grade it was.
You know, some of theirbackpacks are larger than them,
so they could have just landedon all this backpack cushion.
Yep yep, that's a good point.
They always wear these giantlittle things.
It's like a little kid.
And then inside is one folder,one little pen box.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yep, and then now they actually have a little
pocket for the gun.
Yeah, yeah, isn't that nice, Alittle gun pocket.
No, unfortunately the kids nowtheir backpacks have to be clear
.
Yes, you have to have a clear.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Are they going into a stadium?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Poor kids.
I'm sorry guys.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
They have to be clear all the time.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I think they have to be clear all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
States maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Maybe it's just states or school districts, but
I'm pretty certain they have tobe clear.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I feel like that's no .
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's your sacred spot, that's your stuff in there
.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, they don't even sneak your Crocs in anymore.
I know Crazy.
Well, let's get to an update.
Last episode we talked aboutthe helicopter crash from hell,
yeah, where the six folks fivefamily members and one pilot who
apparently was a veterancrashed into the Hudson after
they forgot to screw on theJesus nut.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Oh my God, which is that thing that keeps?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
the helicopter together.
But good news the New York Cityhelicopter touring company that
was responsible for the crashthey're advertising a 70%
discount on flights.
Hey-oh.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
We're slashing the competition.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
We're slashing, isn't that?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
cool, they were slashing themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Wow yeah, but you know there's people that are
gonna take that action right.
Well, you're saving money now,yeah there's gonna be like those
new yorkers or just people ingeneral that are like all right,
what are the chances that likeit crashes right now,
immediately after that time?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
yeah we've got some leeway room before the next
accident happens, at least aweek it reminded me what kyle me
, where he says his buddy justtravels based upon where their
last terrorist attack was,because he says after a
terrorist attack the city'ssafer than it's ever been.
Yeah, exactly, yep, after 9-11,he's like I'm booking a ticket
to New York.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, no, seriously.
Now is the time to get in your$20 helicopter rides around the
Hudson.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You imagine that crashing and all of a sudden
you're like and I paid fullprice, this sucks.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You're like where is the refund going to go now?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, at least, Bev, we got 70% off.
It was nice knowing you.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Here I am paying for the skies.
I'm in the Hudson.
I'm getting twice as much.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Technically it's a twofer.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
When you get on your helicopter, they give you little
floaties just in case.
Yeah right, that's not good.
So it's a helicopter tourcompany.
They were behind a fatal 2018New York City crash.
They're the ones who areslashing the prices after
another company, of course, hadthe massive disaster.
This one's called Flynyon.
Flynyon what Flynyon?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Fly Nyon.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Fly Nyon, fly Nyon, and they're offering 70% off
various tours around the city,including trips just like the
one offered by the other companythat killed everyone.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I'm sure they just switch company names all the
time so that they're not everbeing looked up.
I'm sure, like, oh, you're thecompany that killed everybody
again.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
I'd probably think of a newname fast.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I mean, how many helicopters are going around
Right, Like they're all sharinghelicopters, I bet.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's so true it's probably like it's all like
three quote unquote rivalcompanies, but they all share
the same backyard of helicopters.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
They're hot coptering .
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah.
They're hot coptering, you knowyeah.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Like the dudes that rent out the mopeds in South.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Beach, oh yes.
Or the bicycles in LA.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yes, and then you get hit by them.
You get hit in your heels bythem.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah well, at least they're not all held together by
one nut.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's me right now.
I'm one nut away from dying,Falling apart completely.
Senate Minority Leader ChuckSchumer you would think he has
more stuff to do, but he saysthis is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Offering a discount.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Oh, oh, he didn't say it was outrageous for the crash
.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, yeah, but he's just mad about the discount.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, he's like 70%, it should be 85.
Really you killed six people.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Come on, I'm not going to give you come on, he
made a whole speech about this.
He says listen to this Fly Neonis offering the same kind of
flights that just took the livesof these six people, but now,
because of the crash, they'regiven a 70% special discount.
Outrageous, outrageous.
So maybe he likes it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Outrageous, outrageous.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
This is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Come get it now, before it's over.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Why is he talking about this?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I have no idea, because he's distracting people.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, there's so much going on.
Yeah, wow, but he is reallyabout the prices of the
helicopters in New York City.
Is he the owner and he's pissedhe?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
might be.
Who knows, it's a fire sale.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yes, indeed, and another update, eric and Lyle
Menendez.
I believe it's this Thursday.
Oh, they are up forresentencing.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Wow, that was fast.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, it's fast and slow.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, because it was supposed to be in like January,
December.
It was around Christmas timewhen they were about to do it,
so it's taken a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
But Loseles county superior court judge michael
jessic.
Uh, he says everything youargued today is absolutely fair
game for the resentencinghearing next thursday.
And that was when theprosecution showed a bunch of
pictures of jose and kim andendez's body.
Oh, just liquefied yeah allmessed up.
And then eric and lyle werelike you didn't tell us you were
(10:02):
gonna show that.
And then the prosecutor waslike well, you did all that.
Were like you didn't tell usyou were going to show that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And then the prosecutor was like well, you
did all that?
Yeah, we did.
They didn't have footage ofthem getting molested, though,
because that would Right.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That would like pretty much even it out.
Yeah exactly that would levelthe playing field.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Sure Tape for tape.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Let's go to the tape.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Did you say t of the?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
taint.
So they are going to continueto show Jose and Kitty Menendez
that's what the prosecution isgoing to do and be like these
are the guys who did it andthey're real bad dudes.
And then the defense is goingto be like, as Kyle just said
well, they were all molested.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, oh my God.
Well, I mean I.
I think that's fair, becausethere has been a lot of like
uptalk about like their quoteunquote innocence or their like
level of defense, becausethey've been and everyone's been
feeling emotional about it.
I mean, yeah, that's true, theygot molested.
This movie came out and showedthe horrors of it and then
(11:00):
people are kind of forgetting,like, no, no, no, they still
destroyed the fuck out of theirparents.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Right.
With shotguns I mean it isimportant to remember.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, they should have the dude from Menudo who
was molested by Jose Menendez.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Come on and be able to talk about it too, or like
his or like.
Wasn't one of their cousinsalso molested?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, he wasn't molested, but he knew about it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
So then we should bring those they should talk
about that and then also bringup the photos of how they shot
their parents.
Sure, they were a good shot.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Absolutely A tit for tat.
Yeah Well, what's sointeresting?
When you become a celebrity,you get to hang out with other
celebrities.
What and this is kind offascinating for Lyle Menendez
Uh-oh, it turns out that he hasa very strong relationship with
a certain comedian.
Oh, Miss.
Pat.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
No, did you say comedian?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Comedian.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Saying that it's a whorman.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Rosie O'Donnell.
Hell yeah, that's awesome,isn't that?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Irish national, rosie O'Donnell, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I don't know, but they are good friends.
Wow.
So apparently Rosie has beenspeaking with Lyle Menendez for
years.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Really?
Yes, you guys said he was goingto come out and be a gay icon.
I think you might be right.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I said his brother.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Maybe he's going to take the twist.
Lyle's the one with the.
He's the bald one.
He's the bald one, eric is thetall one who's married to Tammy.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Okay, yeah, eric and Tammy O'Donnell.
She says he started calling meon a regular basement.
He started calling me probablyfrom a basement almost from a
basement.
He started calling me on aregular basis from the tablet
phone thing they have.
Then she says he would tell meabout his life, what's been
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going on in prison, and for thefirst time in my life I felt
safe enough to trust and bevulnerable and love a straight
man.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm dead.
For the first time she feltsafe talking to a man behind
bars that can't actually reachher in any kind of way.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
A straight man?
Yes, wow, so Lyle is thestraight man for her.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Because she felt a little unsafe around other
straight men.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, what the fuck?
The key to this is prison.
You know that, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well, he killed his.
Like he's a double murderer.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, but he's but I just feel so safe.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But I feel so safe because he up and I'm in Ireland
.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, I don't know how can this go wrong?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
A land where there's no straight men?
Yes, so apparently they werediscussing the crime on Larry
King Live in 1996.
The former talk show host saidthat she believed Lyle and
Eric's claim of childhood abuseand molestation by their father
and that killing their parentswas an act of self-defense.
So she was standing on LarryKing Live back in 1996.
Wow, which is quite interesting, because of course most people
(13:50):
were like that's just false andthey're just trying to say
anything to get out of beingfound guilty.
Yeah, so after her appearance,o'donnell received a letter from
Lyle and it thanked her for hersupport and stated his belief
that she knew from a personalplace that what he was saying
(14:11):
was true.
So she says I know you'retelling the truth.
Oh, rosie O'Donnell 1996.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Wow, yeah, I wonder if they just laid low and didn't
spend so much money after thedeaths.
Well, that was the problemExactly, and that's what made it
seem like they were in it justfor the money, because they were
just going doing everythinglavishly.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, because they were kids and they were morons.
Exactly yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
The actress herself said that she has experienced
something similar to Eric andLyle.
Yeah, yeah, she says that sheand her siblings had been
molested by their father.
Oh jeez, isn't that sad?
Yeah, so she understands wherethey're coming from.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
O'Donnell says, at that point I had not ventured
anywhere near this in my familyor in my therapy, so this case
really brought that to theforefront for her.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Oh wow, Interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Isn't that fascinating.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So she didn't shoot her dad with a shotgun.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
She did not oh interesting, not oh interesting,
but she was like but I couldsee how that could make you feel
like doing that.
Yeah, absolutely right.
And then maybe she didn't havemaybe the sister, you know,
maybe they didn't talk about it.
Yeah, yeah and it seemed likeeric and lyle they were
discussing it, yeah, and thenthey were like let's go get that
gun let's go do the thing itwasn't until 2002, when the
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siblings case gained new life ontikt TikTok, that the comic
reached back out.
O'Donnell explained that she hadheard of the prisoner's wife,
rebecca Sneed, who contacted herto see if she was interested in
speaking with him.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
So there you go.
So they're having a nice time.
Dude his smile is so creepy.
It's a creepy smile.
It's a creepy smile.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It is very creepy.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, o'donnell, she did say at first she was
concerned because he's amurderer, but now she doesn't
care.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Now she's over it.
Yeah, she's like yeah.
At first it's like scary, butthen you know.
You just look inside.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, look inside.
Apparently, lyle talked toO'Donnell, talked O'Donnell into
getting a dog for her son Clay,through a prison program he was
involved in.
Wow, the inmates were workingto train dogs and I guess she
got one of the dogs, so she'sgot.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Lyle's dog.
Wow, she's got a prison dog.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Clay was paired with a Labrador mix that was trained
by a man who was in prison forarmed robbery.
Okay, so it wasn't exactly hisdog, but it was a man who was in
prison for armed robbery.
Yeah, I don't know if they letmurderers have the dog.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, it is ballsy that you know this is a
resentencing, not a pardoning, Iknow, but if this doesn't go
through, their next hope is toget pardoned.
But they're now associatingwith the one person the
president hates the most.
So I don't know if that's sucha good look, someone that ran.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Only Rosie O'Donnell.
Yeah, that was America, america, america.
Here we are.
So, o'donnell says I noticedthe difference in Clay
immediately that's her son whenhe got the dog.
She says I was so shocked tofind out all these tall tales I
heard from other mothers ofautistic children were true.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Wait what.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Her kid's autistic.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But she said all of the tall tales that were true.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yes, you know all the tall tales that mothers of
autistic children talk about aretrue.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I thought she was going to say all the tall tales
that mothers talk about are notfully.
Maybe she's talking about thetall tales that mothers talk
about are not fully.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Maybe she's talking about the.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Tall tales are definitely true.
Okay, this is.
There was a new documentarythat came out.
It's called Unleashing Hope thepower of service dogs for
autism.
Hope was on a leash, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Now unleashed it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, unleash hope, wow.
So apparently, if you'reautistic, get yourself a service
dog.
Things are going to be good foryou.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Isn't that nice.
That is very nice.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
So, anyway, this is her film.
It comes on the heels of hermoving to Ireland once again.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So it's kind of a strange, that's strange.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, you never know who's connected in this world.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And you're like huh, look at those two.
We didn't picture them asfriends, but okay.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Indeed, yeah, they're having a great time, sounds
like it, and Clay is happy withthe dog that Lyle sent.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
We'll keep you updated, hopefully by the end of
this week.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Oh yeah, we hope you know something, yes.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Because again it seems as if it's been a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's kind of interesting.
If they get out.
They're going to be in LA.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, they're going to be hanging out.
They're going to hang out atthe Ha Ha Club.
It's going to be great.
Where do you think they'regoing to go?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
first.
They're probably going to getmemberships right away at the
Soho House and just hang outthere looking for more
documentaries about themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That actually sounds right.
We're going to do moredocumentaries about themselves.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
We'd have to kill again.
I don't know it's interesting,but she's in Ireland so they
can't even really hang out.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, that's by design.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
For three and a half years at least.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Well, speaking of Donald Trump, this next story is
quite interesting.
A Wisconsin teen, my home state, the land of cheese and beer.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Wow, and serial killers?
Nice, yes, it's cold.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So a Wisconsin teen and this is also involving
murder of parents a Wisconsinteen allegedly murdered his
mother and stepfather.
Why?
To obtain financial means andautonomy necessary to kill
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Wait, whoa, okay, there's a lot there's a lot.
There's a lot to unpack herethere really is Nikita Gassop,
17 years old.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
They were arrested in March and charged with two
counts of first-degree murderand two counts of hiding a
corpse after killing his mother,tatiana, and stepfather Donald
in their Waukesha home.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's so messed up, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
right Waukesha, just outside of Milwaukee, a nice
little suburb area.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Did their parents like vote for Trump, even I
think he just wanted the moneyto go kill Donald Trump, he
could have.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Ask for a co-sign on a loan or a credit card.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, he could have done.
He could have got emancipated.
There's so many routes youcould take.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Why is the first thing?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
yeah, I gotta take my parents out, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Can't dig into my mom's purse if she's alive.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, what happened to just stealing from your
mother's purse?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, we're just not killing the president.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Well, yeah, you know oh yeah, yeah, it's America, all
right.
Well, we're talking about juststep one.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Step one yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Step one is really let's just go through the logic
of each step.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah right, he needs to attain finances.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, so yes.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
He needs finances?
Yeah, but he didn't get a job.
He could have gone the Wendy'sroute.
Yeah, maybe automation screwedhim over.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
So after he killed his mother and stepfather, he
slashed their bullet-riddenbodies under blankets for weeks.
So he hid them under blankets,uh-oh.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
In the house I guess in the house, that's not—that
smell's going to come to get youpretty fast, oh at some point.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
yeah, they're just like where are your parents?
That's the kid.
Yeah, he's a scary kid.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Looking at the photo he looks.
Yeah, he looks pretty scary.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
You know, I mean he's got the flat jacket on.
He's like you know, it's notthe most appealing outfit, right
?
No, but it's gonna take a turnhere.
Okay, called for theassassination of trump and the
(21:35):
start of a revolution, to quote,save the white race.
Oh, okay, wait.
So he wanted to martyr trumpand then be like hey hey, now
we're going to have a race war,and now me, Nikita is going to
save the white race.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Okay, where is this name from I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Russia.
Yeah, he looks Russian,Probably Russian, yeah.
So then the teen he wasscrawling.
So there's a bunch of drawings.
They're calling them scrawlings, which I assume just means bad
drawings.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Scrawlings, scrawlings, which, I assume,
just means bad drawings,scrawlings.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Scrawlings, scrawlings.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
He had a lot of images of Adolf Hitler, and then
this was the following text.
It said Hail Hitler, hail thewhite race, hail victory.
So he was hailing a lot ofstuff.
What a weather report, wow.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Maybe Just not himself, definitely not himself,
definitely not his parentseither.
I guess his parents reallydidn't vote for Trump.
There's a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, this is a whole roundabout way to start a race
for him.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, he's like yeah, we'll just do the necessary,
like martyr things.
He's just a pawn in the game oflife, just a larger plan.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Which I wonder if that one idiot who tried to kill
Trump.
I wonder if that was his planalso.
I don't know.
These guys are a little wacky.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
They're not thinking because the opposite side is
looking at Trump like he's thenew Hitler.
So then you're going to killthe new Hitler and praise the
old one.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well then, but God, it's tough.
17-year-old Waukesha boy triedto get into the brain.
I, yeah, yes, tried to get intothe brain.
I think he thinks people aregoing to be so mad they're going
to take up firearms, and theneveryone was just going to kill
everyone that isn't white, andthen vice versa, oh, and then
the race war will start.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
The race, war will start, and then the white people
will win.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It ends with the white people winning.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Well, in his little, in his lore, right, yeah,
investigators say he was intouch with other parties about
his plan to kill the presidentand overthrow the government of
the United States.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Was he trying to be the president?
Yeah, he was going to be thepresident.
Oh, so he's trying to be thenew Hitler.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I guess so.
And then they say and he paidfor, at least in part, a drone
and explosives to be used as aweapon of mass destruction, oh
damn, To commit the attack.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Oh damn.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So he's on it that is messed up.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I mean now that they've caught him.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
This is a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
This kid's going to be stuffed in a shoebox.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, he really is what you writing in there.
Hey, Nikita, what you writingin there.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Just sometimes ask your kid what's in their little
notebooks.
It's not, nikita, what youwriting in there.
Yeah, just sometimes ask yourkid what's in their little
notebooks it's not Nikita, it'sNikita.
Nikita, so they say otherparties with whom Kassop was in
contact appeared to have beenaware of his plan and action and
they provided assistance toKassop in carrying them out.
(24:23):
So he had a whole crew ofmorons.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Wow, wow, oh my God.
They probably really believedin him, like he is the new
Hitler or something.
Yeah, he thought he haddisciples.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well, the facial hair isn't matching up.
He's very young.
He's got that young hair, yeah,yeah.
See the grease.
It's just a, you know, teenager, teenage boy, hair is greasy,
it's always greasy.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
They Teenage boy hair is greasy.
It's always greasy.
They're always so oily, yeahZitty.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
They're nervous.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Clammy, A little sweaty yeah sweaty.
What are you so nervous about?
Oh, I'm trying to start a racewar.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
It's a lot of work and it's a lot of pressure
Talking to girls.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I'm talking to girls trying to start a race war.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You know, you know race, for you know Trying to
fight this boner.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Authorities also uncovered materials on the
teen's phone related to theOrder of the Nine Angles.
Wow, it's a network ofindividuals holding new Nazi,
racially motivated, extremistviews.
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I mean, if you're Donald Trump, you're like aren't
?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
you supposed to be one of my people.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, exactly, and you're going to kill me too.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You're going to kill, kill me.
Does anybody want me aliveother than dana white right?
So he faced his charges,including uh well, obviously,
murder, um, and uh yeah,apparently he just wanted ten
thousand dollars.
Oh gee, that's all he thoughtit was gonna take.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Could have ten thousand bucks he really could
have gotten that withoutmurdering his parents.
But there's definitelysomething a little more
deep-seated in there.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
This kid's got to work out oh yeah, he's gonna
have a lot of time to work thatout there is a lot more reason
that he killed his parents yeppolice performed a welfare check
at the family's home february28th, after the teen was absent
from the waukesha west highschool for two weeks.
Oh wow, so he've got to pretendlike everything's okay.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, mistake number one.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You've got your stepdad and your mom rotting
under a bunch of blankets,you've got to go to school.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, that's the weird thing about it you do.
You have to be exactly the samestudent.
You were Not any better, notany worse.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Everything's just fine, still kind of creepy.
Perfect, nice Yep Parentsprobably still alive, probably
Cops.
Found the teenager's mom buriedunder piles of clothes and a
blanket in the hallway near thekitchen.
That is so gross, with multipleshots to the neck, upper torso,
abdomen and right wrist Damn.
(26:40):
So maybe the right wrist mayhave been a defensive wound and,
as you can see in the mugshot,he does have acne.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
He has a lot of acne.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And then Kasim's stepfather was discovered in the
home's first floor office witha gunshot wound to the head.
So, he was just hanging outwith these bodies for like weeks
.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Dude, he did a school shooting in his own house.
What an asshole.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, both bodies were decomposed beyond
recognition, forcing authoritiesto use other methods to confirm
their identity.
Like their teeth.
Yeah, like their teeth Hair.
He has not yet entered a plea,but it don't look good, does not
?
Look good.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
He should.
Yeah, no, Take away any pen andpaper from this kid.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No more scrawlings for you.
No more scrawlings.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Jotting down ideas.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Iroglyphics.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Well, speaking of school, this story is
interesting.
Athletics.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Things I don't have.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You do.
You're very good at yoga.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
That's a very athletic thing to do.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I can do self-athletics.
I'm not good in team sports.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yes, and nor was this child we're going to speak
about, but I do want to ask thequestion if something happens in
a basketball game or a footballgame, should you be charged
with a felony?
What depends a west virginiahigh school basketball player.
He is facing a felony chargefor repeatedly fouling one of
his opponents.
Apparently he fouled the guy sohard he broke his nose wow, and
(28:19):
now he's been arrested.
His name is gage ketterman.
Wow, and he.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Wow, and he's 18 years old Dude, Gage Ketterman,
18 years old, pumped on steroids.
He was born to be pumped onsteroids.
Be punching guys on the fuckingcourt, Gage yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It's both a cool name and a douchey name, yeah, but
it can kind of go either.
It's very superhero-ish.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Kind of Gage.
Anyway, he's a West Virginiahigh school athlete either.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's very superhero-ish Kind of Gage
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
He's a West Virginia high school athlete, oh my god,
is that him that's?
Him Just seeing a picture.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
This episode has a lot of scary whites Wow, I see
that.
Yes, between Rosie O'Donnelland Gage.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Just flaring those nostrils away.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Go on A West Virginia high school student.
He's facing adult felonycharges after he allegedly
elbowed his opponent in the face, breaking his nerves, during a
basketball game.
My question again is it's Idon't know.
I feel like it's a sacred space.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
That's a sacred space .
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Where you kind of get to get away with a little bit
of violence.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, isn't that why you guys do sports to begin with
?
Right?
That's literally the point.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's why they always say, well, put that boy
in sports.
He's got a lot of gumption.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, he's got to work out a lot of that energy.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, otherwise he's going to become a serial.
You know something?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
A serial, what, what?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Something Killer or that's.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, so he's 18.
He was at the Harmon School.
He was arrested on Monday forthe alleged in-game attack.
I wonder how they decided to.
I guess the kid that took thehit went home very upset and
their parents decided to presscharges, or?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
something Apparently the kid that he elbowed in the
nose.
His nose was bleeding for fourhours and then his parents had
to bring him to the hospital,and it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But it happened during the heat of the moment.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But they said he kept on doing it.
Is he one of those thingswhere— Well, you get six, you
get six a game.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, you get six fouls a game.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Make them count.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Unless you get technicals, then you get two or
one, depending on the rules.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And there's no word If this game I think the ref was
like play on.
So West Virginia State Policethey were notified about the
assault February 27th after theinjury was reported by the
student's mother.
I'm just not sure about this.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
But it's like I said, if he did it with malicious
intent, like he already plannedto be hurting this kid as much
as possible before he evenstarted the game, he wasn't
scrolling in his notebook beforethe game.
I don't believe he wasn'tscrolling in his notebook before
the game.
I don't believe he could havebeen plotting in his brain he
could have been plotting.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Could have been plotting.
The woman claimed her son waselbowed in the face yeah, the
victim's nose reportedlybleeding profusely, as I said,
for more than four hours, andthere was some video from the
game that was reviewed by statepolice.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I want to see.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
And they said that the jab was directly in the face
of the opposing player.
Damn Throughout the game.
The clip has also showed himallegedly taunting multiple
players by striking them in theback of the head.
God what a bully.
Yeah, I don't think he reallyunderstood what basketball is.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Or he was watching a lot of 1980s NBA, because this
used to happen all the time.
There would be one person thatwent out, they were called the
enforcer and they would go elbowpeople in the face until the
other team fought them True.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Anthony Mason, new York Knicks.
Baby, let's go.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's frowned upon in today's sports.
It's not.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
It is.
If the kid needs a frickin'mugshot, I think he needs a
talkin' to and be like.
That's not what athletics isall about.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I don't even know if this is the kid's mugshot.
I think this is him with, likehis basketball shot.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Well, he's scary, he's a terrifying gentleman.
Yeah, I think it's a mugshot,but maybe not.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
It looks like I don't know the walls of my gym, so it
does look like a school mugshot.
Like right in front of the vent.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, right, yeah that's where you want to put
your butt, yeah Yum.
Authorities noted that in thevideo, ketterman can be seen
quote wiping something off theelbow he had just used to strike
the union player.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Damn Like what.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Like his boogers, blood Like pins, and needles.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean just to arrest the kid.
The officers concluded thatKetterman's actions seemed quote
intentional and criminallymalicious in nature.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, I just I want to see.
I want to see footage.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I've been trying to find it.
I can't Damn.
I couldn't find any either.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I guess, maybe because now it's like police
evidence or something.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Maybe also.
I think everyone else isprobably underage, but does that
stop footage?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So because Ketterman was 18 at the time of the
incident, he's going to becharged as an adult.
But again, they don't even sayif he was kicked out of the game
, right?
I don't know, I just don't knowif arresting is the right way
to go in this case.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I mean it's also on.
Like the coach, if you'reseeing a kid, that's that out of
control.
You've got to take him out ofthe game.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You've got to do what's going on.
He should have pulled him backa couple of hits ago.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, he should be bopping people in the back of
the head.
It's basketball.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Should have gotten into wrestling, but even in
wrestling you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
One malicious assault and two attempted malicious
assaults.
So he swung and missed a coupletimes.
I guess.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
It's not that common to get felony charges while
playing a basketball game.
No, I've never heard of it.
No, but I guess that's the newworld we're living in.
Granted, he broke somebody'snose, but that went for four
hours.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I mean, did he try tilting his head up and
squeezing it yeah.
For a little bit, Because ifyou prematurely just stop doing
that, it's going to keepbleeding.
Man, For four hours.
It wasn't like a river of blood.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I think it was a river of blood.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You think it was a river of blood.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
The mom was like it's a river of blood.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
It wouldn't stop for four hours.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It's a river of blood .
It wouldn't stop for four hours.
What if it was just like?
Every time he took the littlenose, the paper tissue glops in
his nostrils pulled it out itwas still red.
He's like still bleeding, Stillbleeding.
And then he puts another one inthere, hangs out, plays video
games.
Hour later still bleeding,Still red glops, Still red glops
.
And then he just puts anotherone in and mom's like oh my god,
you've been bleeding for fourhours now.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Four hours.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
We have to go to the hospital.
Yeah, it could have been likethat it could have been like
that.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I think also the guy who got hit should have.
Just you had to hit him back.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, yeah, stand up for yourself, damn it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, well, then his mom, his mom had to go report
him to the police.
Anyway, I don't know, don'tknow that just happened he does
it does.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
He does also seem like a loose screw where he's
like.
His energy is maybe hinting.
Juvenile detention yeah, yeahso maybe you know, bring, bring
him in, teach him like, give hima smack on the wrist and be
like hey, maybe you startlearning how to play sports or
take up fucking boxing boxing,there we go, yeah, you need
something a little bit morecombat yeah, yeah, concentrated
(35:18):
focus that
Speaker 1 (35:19):
yeah well, speaking of violence, not all violence
involves blood.
No, or punching, or elbowing.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Words are violence.
Ben.
Yeah, because sometimes you canbeat someone with an orange and
it doesn't leave bruises.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, true, very true .
Okay, great, good to know.
There was a fella.
He was an apprentice at agarage.
His name was Brooklyn ForresterHayes.
He claimed yes, brooklynForrester Hayes, fancy.
Yeah, that's cool, he's notfrom around here, this is over
across the pond.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Oh gotcha.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yes, brooklyn Forrester Hayes.
He was real mad because he saysa coworker has been tampering
with his lunch.
Oh yeah, and he didn't likethat one bit.
Oh no, yes, he was 21 years old, he is.
He's real pissed off and hestarted making threats towards
the other employees, telling himhe would mess up anyone's
(36:12):
toolbox and damage his bike ifhe found out that that person
was messing with his lunch.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Not messing with my lunch, not messing with his
toolbox.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yes, he said he was going to mess with this guy's
toolbox and damage his bike.
Forrester Hayes was fired fromhis role at the Scania Truck
Depot after bosses saw theabusive messages he had been
sending.
Abusive, yes, wow.
He took the firm to anemployment tribunal, claiming he
was unfairly dismissed and thatthere was a culture of banter
(36:46):
at Scania.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Right, right, what drove him over the edge.
So he well, no, he was sayingthat was like a facetious thing
where he wasn't like I'm gonnamess up.
He's like all right, guys, stoptaking my fucking electronic
and mess with your toolbox.
There's going to be a Jesus nutmissing from your bike.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
So they said pranks are common.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
And Forrester Hayes was handed a final warning and
said hey, you better stopthreatening these people, okay?
He then grabbed him by thecollar and held on before a
supervisor intervened.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
So he's grabbing this guy stop messing with my lunch.
Well, now that's turning intosomething else.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yes.
Shortly after starting hisshift on July 2023, he went to
the tea room for a drink andfound that his lunch bag had
been tampered with.
He found his crisps those are,chips smashed, chocolate bars
crushed, and someone had openedhis sandwich box and poked
finger-sized holes through thesandwiches.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You know, they licked their finger before they did it
too.
Yeah, he got all mad, that'swhy he was all mad.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I'd be pissed too.
Yeah, they also opened up teabags and sprinkled tea leaves
all over his lunch bag.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
All right, that's messed up.
It's messed up.
Yeah, I'm starting to see whyhe threatened people's toolboxes
and their bike and their bike,which is pretty adorable.
They're messing with our food.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It's like Wallace and Gromit yeah, food.
It's like Wallace and Gromityeah.
Forrester Hayes says, quote hewas super upset, dismayed and
angry and now had no food untilhe got home.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And then he was hangry on top of that.
Oh my God, You're lookingforward to that sandwich in the
fridge.
Four hours of work you finallyget your lunch break.
Everyone's annoying you.
You're like I want a fuckingsandwich.
I want that.
And then you discover that it'sbeen tampered with.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
The only thing I will say when it comes to the crisps
I don't mind a nice smashed upbag of chips.
No, Kind of take it down thatway.
No, I need my chip.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I need them to be whole.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, when they're crunched, I need my teeth to be
the crunchers of the chip.
Yes, but it's a little easiersometimes if you just crunch
them, crunch them, crunch themand then open it up and you just
pour them into your mouth.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Nah, no, no, no, no, no.
I want the satisfaction offeeling this like very fragile
chip just crack.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, I get depressed getting to the end of the bag
of chips when it's all just likethe crushed up part.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, yeah.
Because into your mouth it's acrunch.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
There's still crunch.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, it's like already pre-chewed for you.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
It's pre-crunched, it's not wet, it's almost,
because it's like pretty muchall oil too.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
It is almost wet.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Well, anyway, he thinks the same way that you
guys think, because he threw thecontents of the lunchbox in the
bin, which is the garbage.
He said I hate this, I hatethis this year, that's it.
Forrester Hayes assumed theculprit was an apprentice on the
early shift and told thecolleague I'm going to fuck him
up for it.
Then he says, quote if I seehis fucking toolbox open
(39:42):
tomorrow, I'm gonna fuck upeverything up in there.
So he's gonna mess with histools.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
What are you gonna do ?
Bend the screws.
How do you mess with the screwsLike you just draw a dick on
each one of them.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I can't use this anymore.
He put a cock on it.
So Forrester Hayes, he sentmessages to everyone on the
early shift asking them if theyknew who was responsible.
In a Snapchat message to anapprentice he suspected, he says
if I find out it was you, yourtoolbox is fucked.
He is so mad he's going to goafter the guy's toolbox.
(40:20):
He's going to go after thetoolbox, which is wow.
That's pretty aggressive stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I don't understand what he's going to do.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I feel bad for this guy because, like every group of
friends in a guy's group, weall have had someone where, like
you, just fuck with them allthe time because of their
reaction and you're like this isadorable you're gonna fuck up
my toolbox yeah, and it's likethey do kind of, the more they
get upset, the more it's kind ofhilarious.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yes, exactly it gets funnier and funnier.
And you don't mean for it, andbut they get that one day they
just snap yeah, dude man, it'sbeen all love this whole time.
Why do you come on yeah?
Look at what you do?
You start adding the fluffyshit to our fucking wrenches.
Yeah you just, you just attachcotton to everything so it's not
(41:04):
sharp anymore like that's yourrevenge.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Someone's last words are like but, I was nice to you
for.
But I was nice to you,forrester, I was nice to you,
not nice enough, yep.
So he says if it was you,you're paying for my lunch and
if you don't, I'll cut your tirevalves off.
He's going to cut tire valvesoff.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That's a little more than messing with my toolbox,
buddy.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
It is In an exchange of messages with another
colleague.
He said the culprit had fuckedup all my food for tonight.
And then the colleague repliedyeah, that's a bit much.
I would only do the crisps atworst, not everything.
So he's like I'll fuck withyour crisps.
He's got some decency.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, he's like oh man, that was bad form.
See, if it were me, this is howI would attack the lunchbox.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Right, put a lock on your lunchbox.
Yeah, this is adorable.
So then, forrester Hayes, theyhad a tribunal.
They're calling this a garagetribunal.
A tribunal, yes, which I canonly imagine.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
There's like an emergency bell that's never rang
.
Yeah Ringing it.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
My God, it's time for a tribunal.
We haven't had one in 25 years.
Yeah, so he says I have ADHD.
He's like I have ADHD everybody.
That's why he was saying someof those things impulsively.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
First of all, isn't that Tourette's?
It could be?
First of all, isn't thatTourette's?
It could be?
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Second of all.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
So he got the fake diagnosis wrong.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Perhaps.
But ADHD, you are a littleimpulsive, I have it, I'm
impulsively fun, do you tellpeople you're going to ruin
their lunchboxes or theirtoolboxes?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
No, no, thinks back, has to remember about it.
I don't know anyone that worksno.
No.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Thinks back has to remember about it.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
I don't know anyone that works, but this is what I'm
talking about.
This is part of the reaction,so this is going to get him made
fun of even more, becausethey'll be like oh I'm sorry, I
have ADHD.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
What's?
The guy who said he wasautistic and that's why he
killed her?
Goldberger, yeah, yeah, that'sright four people.
I'm autistic, okay.
So he said at the time he wasso impulsive he quote did not
stop to think about theconsequences of the messages.
The following day, a foremanasked all of the apprentices if
(43:22):
they knew what happened to thelunch did anyone fess up?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
nobody wow well, yeah because it's gone too far oh
it's when you can.
Once it starts avalanching likethis, then you fully pull back
and you hope no one makes eyecontact with you.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Just one dude with a little pickle under his nails
Hoping to do a DNA test.
So no one owned up to that, butsome did say they received some
messages that were abusive.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Oh they would, oh, they would, oh, they would, yeah
, oh, oh, I know, okay.
So this whole time I've beenthinking about how to fuck with
someone's toolbox in a cute way,pouring honey all over the
tools.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Oh, that would fuck everything up.
Winnie the Pooh it.
I'd be so pissed.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Or just smashing a banana into all of it.
That would work.
Yeah, because it'd be soannoying to just get everything
out and you got to just cleaneverything.
It's still going to get stickyFlies are going to get on it.
You're never going to fully getall the banana out.
It's always going to smell likebanana in your toolbox.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
And that's really the only way to combat a food crime
is with more food.
Anyway, he was fired and now heis claiming that he was
unfairly dismissed and that theinvestigation that the tribunal
again.
I would love to know who thesepeople are was inadequate, and
the managers did not take hisADHD into account before they
made the decision.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Let me see a prescription.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yes, the tribunal ruled that his bosses were
entitled to conclude hisbehavior was unacceptable and
that dismissal was necessary.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
What tribunal?
It sounds like they took cargrease and painted on their
faces for this fucking ritual.
The tribunal, yes.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
It was very serious.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
So so serious.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
It's very serious.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
And then, meanwhile, this kid is pulling a Ross.
He's just like my sandwich Getsfired over it.
It's just like my sandwich, hegets fired over it.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
It's just amazing.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
What a great time.
All he did was get mad thatpeople were fucking with his
stuff.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
I mean they fingered his sandwich.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
I'm with him.
The tribunal should have stoodup for him.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
He said I'm going to destroy your toolbox and shit.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
If I were the boss I would have been like, hey, if I
see any destroyed toolboxes,pretty much going to know it was
you, it was you.
Yeah, Told everyone you woulddo it.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And it's all empty threats.
Look at this kid he's adorable,he's so cute.
That's why they're fucking withhim.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
He's not that adorable.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
He's got a baby face.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
It's just so mad when it gets all red and angry.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
He's one of those people that is like I'm not
crying because I just get.
I tear up when I'm angry.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
I cry when I get mad.
Yeah, yeah, those guys arefunny.
That is me though.
Yeah, totally.
You get all red faced.
Then you just talk about itnonstop for like three freaking
months, like we know, kyle, yes,oh, god damn, anyway, all damn,
(46:12):
anyway, all right.
Well, let's see Anything fromthe chat.
Yes, should basketball playersbe arrested on the court now?
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Well, chris G said, did we learn nothing from the
eyebrow incident?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
regarding this, Great , it's so true, this is the
eyebrow type guy you just don't.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
All over again.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
But I do understand You're hungry and lunch and but
I would be pissed, I would bepissed.
Yeah, I would be pissed.
It's kind of funny.
Yeah, but also come on.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Jeff says ban him for the season.
No charges for the kid that wasthrowing elbows around.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Okay, there you go.
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
His tourniquet says he was Okay.
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Whether or not legal, we don't know.
He had huge nostrils.
She said the nostrils aregiving bowling ball sniffer, the
nostrils are giving eight ballsniffer.
But yeah sure, whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
In response to the Menendez brothers being friends
with Rosie O'Donnell, they saidfor the pardon, they're going to
be schmoozing with RoseanneBarr.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
So they'll be on Trump's good side then.
Oh yes, that's right, oh bar sothey'll be on Trump's good side
then.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Oh yes, that's right, it's a tale of two roses, yes.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
And then a lot of people talk about the Karen Reid
documentary.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Oh yes, so you were saying that has now been moved.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yes, the trial was going to start tomorrow, but
they released one juror, sothey're down to 15.
They're going to need 16 to 18before the trial starts, so
that's going to continuetomorrow.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
That is annoying.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
I've got a bunch of DMs about that and we will be
covering it, because Kyle knowsa lot, jerry knows a lot, yeah,
and I think she looks kind ofcute.
But apparently you guys don'tlike her very much, but you also
don't think she's guilty.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I like her.
I don't mind that.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot about her presentation and
her just delivery of her naturalpersonality.
Is it screaming likable?
No, and because of that it'snot.
It's like people are using thatunlikability to be like she's
guilty.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
That bitch is guilty.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
I think she's not super likable as a person, but I
do think she's innocent, yes,super likable as a person, but I
do think she's innocent.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yes, all right.
Well, we will be covering thatstory.
Thank you all so much forjoining our Monday episode.
We will be back tomorrow andwe're going to have a great week
ahead.
Okay, everyone, hail yourself.
We'll talk to you soon.
Bye, bye.
Mm-hmm, oh, gluten-free.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
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Welcome to OK Bud, the podcastwhere everything's gonna be OK
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Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Isn't that exciting.
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Also shoot us an email, okbudpod, at gmailcom.
Share pictures of your animals.
Who knows Any stories you wantto tell us?
Yes, yeah.
Yes, we have a couple of We'vegot a story.
Yes, we do have a story we'regoing to start off with here.
We also have a couple ofupdates to get to will be very
exciting.
Okay, let's go to the emails.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Ring it up.
Speaker 1 (01:05):
What about our emails ?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Who's emailing?
Speaker 1 (01:07):
What about our emails ?
What about the emails?
Let me see your emails.
Are pizza orders in there?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Or electronic mail.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Pizza means child.
Yes, what?
That's what I learned from theconspiracy web.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
When people want to order a pizza they're ordering a
child Traffic child.
Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, Covered in marinara oh no.
Yeah, and then you got to eatthe pepperonis off them.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Well, that doesn't sound very good.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
No, it's like a strip club that has the sushi on top
of the person there lying thereand that's all disgusting.
Yeah, isn't that kind of weird,throw it all out it seemed
thorny.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
I mean, just Kyle's kid could cut my finger off,
just clean off with like twoteeth.
Oh, he's devastated.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, strange, I don't want to be near one of
those for food?
Absolutely not.
No, well, that's the thing, allright.
Well, this story comes in fromDaisy.
Speaking of children, didn'tall of us take a bus at some
point?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, we sure did, isn't that fun.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Varying lengths, one varying lengths varying lengths
some were the short bus, somewere the long bus.
I was in a long bus but I'm sotall it was the short bus to me
and if you grew up in new yorkcity.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Sometimes it's the public bus oh, yeah, that's true
.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yeah, that's sad.
Yeah, that just sounds sucks.
Uh, she says on episode 44 youtalked about the woman who maybe
got hit by a bus.
That was virginia goufret.
Yeah, yes who is back in thenews, but I don't even care
anymore, because that's a wholeother thing.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
That they have to work out themselves.
We put it to rest.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
We put that to rest.
She says I lived way out in thecountry, growing up to the
point that the car bus routetook over an hour to get us to
school and from All.
Throughout elementary school wehad the worst driver because
she was the only one willing towork that route.
Wow, so didn't you have thebest driver?
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah right, come on, yeah, so true.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
They say we had three wrecks under her until she had
to retire because she had aheart attack while driving us.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Oh, my God, oh my.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
God, yeah, that's kind of fun.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Well, if she pulled over safely, kudos on her.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
I don't think she did .
She says twice we just hitsomebody's car, but the
memorable wreck was the last one.
She took a turn too shallow andour bus literally flipped over
into a ditch.
Oh damn, the windows were onthe floor and we were all
standing on them after gettingthrown around like maracas, oh
(03:30):
my.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
God.
Well, it's a good thing, kidsare durable.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
They're also pretty buoyant.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Oh, you can't kill a kid.
You really got to try.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
You have to try so hard.
They'll bounce.
They'll melt.
They're like a cat.
They'll melt.
They're like a cat.
When they squeeze underneathdoors and just all of a sudden
flatten themselves, they getunder weird shit.
You're like how'd you get there?
Speaker 1 (03:48):
When I hang out with Caden, kyle's kid, when Kyle's
not looking, I'll bend his armsoff.
It's freaking weird, doesn'tfeel it?
No, she goes on to say as anadult.
Now, looking back, I'mhorrified, but I remember that
being the best bus ride ever.
We got to climb along the backof the seats like we were
Spider-Man.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, that's actually pretty cool, Just like climbing
on top of the bus like, ah,lord of the Flies.
Yeah, it's fun.
Not really yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
And the teacher has a heart, the bus driver has a
heart attack.
You gotta laugh and stuff.
You don't take anythingseriously because death isn't
real yet.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Yeah, yeah, it's just like oh, big adventure.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
But also they had like a work-level commute to
their school An hour to and fromfor school.
I would hate that so much.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Lunchbox is flying.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
That's a good thing.
That means you got to wake uptoo early.
Yeah, 5 am.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Depending on what grade it was.
You know, some of theirbackpacks are larger than them,
so they could have just landedon all this backpack cushion.
Yep yep, that's a good point.
They always wear these giantlittle things.
It's like a little kid.
And then inside is one folder,one little pen box.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yep, and then now they actually have a little
pocket for the gun.
Yeah, yeah, isn't that nice, Alittle gun pocket.
No, unfortunately the kids nowtheir backpacks have to be clear
.
Yes, you have to have a clear.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Are they going into a stadium?
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Poor kids.
I'm sorry guys.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
They have to be clear all the time.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I think they have to be clear all the time.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
States maybe.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Maybe it's just states or school districts, but
I'm pretty certain they have tobe clear.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I feel like that's no .
Speaker 3 (05:25):
That's your sacred spot, that's your stuff in there
.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, they don't even sneak your Crocs in anymore.
I know Crazy.
Well, let's get to an update.
Last episode we talked aboutthe helicopter crash from hell,
yeah, where the six folks fivefamily members and one pilot who
apparently was a veterancrashed into the Hudson after
they forgot to screw on theJesus nut.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Oh my God, which is that thing that keeps?
Speaker 1 (05:44):
the helicopter together.
But good news the New York Cityhelicopter touring company that
was responsible for the crashthey're advertising a 70%
discount on flights.
Hey-oh.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
We're slashing the competition.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
We're slashing, isn't that?
Speaker 3 (06:00):
cool, they were slashing themselves.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Wow yeah, but you know there's people that are
gonna take that action right.
Well, you're saving money now,yeah there's gonna be like those
new yorkers or just people ingeneral that are like all right,
what are the chances that likeit crashes right now,
immediately after that time?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
yeah we've got some leeway room before the next
accident happens, at least aweek it reminded me what kyle me
, where he says his buddy justtravels based upon where their
last terrorist attack was,because he says after a
terrorist attack the city'ssafer than it's ever been.
Yeah, exactly, yep, after 9-11,he's like I'm booking a ticket
to New York.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, no, seriously.
Now is the time to get in your$20 helicopter rides around the
Hudson.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You imagine that crashing and all of a sudden
you're like and I paid fullprice, this sucks.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
You're like where is the refund going to go now?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well, at least, Bev, we got 70% off.
It was nice knowing you.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Here I am paying for the skies.
I'm in the Hudson.
I'm getting twice as much.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Technically it's a twofer.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
When you get on your helicopter, they give you little
floaties just in case.
Yeah right, that's not good.
So it's a helicopter tourcompany.
They were behind a fatal 2018New York City crash.
They're the ones who areslashing the prices after
another company, of course, hadthe massive disaster.
This one's called Flynyon.
Flynyon what Flynyon?
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Fly Nyon.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Fly Nyon, fly Nyon, and they're offering 70% off
various tours around the city,including trips just like the
one offered by the other companythat killed everyone.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I'm sure they just switch company names all the
time so that they're not everbeing looked up.
I'm sure, like, oh, you're thecompany that killed everybody
again.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
I'd probably think of a newname fast.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I mean, how many helicopters are going around
Right, Like they're all sharinghelicopters, I bet.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It's so true it's probably like it's all like
three quote unquote rivalcompanies, but they all share
the same backyard of helicopters.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
They're hot coptering .
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah.
They're hot coptering, you knowyeah.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Like the dudes that rent out the mopeds in South.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Beach, oh yes.
Or the bicycles in LA.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yes, and then you get hit by them.
You get hit in your heels bythem.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Yeah well, at least they're not all held together by
one nut.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
That's me right now.
I'm one nut away from dying,Falling apart completely.
Senate Minority Leader ChuckSchumer you would think he has
more stuff to do, but he saysthis is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Offering a discount.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Oh, oh, he didn't say it was outrageous for the crash
.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, yeah, but he's just mad about the discount.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, he's like 70%, it should be 85.
Really you killed six people.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Come on, I'm not going to give you come on, he
made a whole speech about this.
He says listen to this Fly Neonis offering the same kind of
flights that just took the livesof these six people, but now,
because of the crash, they'regiven a 70% special discount.
Outrageous, outrageous.
So maybe he likes it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Outrageous, outrageous.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
This is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Come get it now, before it's over.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Why is he talking about this?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
I have no idea, because he's distracting people.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Yeah, there's so much going on.
Yeah, wow, but he is reallyabout the prices of the
helicopters in New York City.
Is he the owner and he's pissedhe?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
might be.
Who knows, it's a fire sale.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Yes, indeed, and another update, eric and Lyle
Menendez.
I believe it's this Thursday.
Oh, they are up forresentencing.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Wow, that was fast.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Yeah, it's fast and slow.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Yeah, because it was supposed to be in like January,
December.
It was around Christmas timewhen they were about to do it,
so it's taken a little bit.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
But Loseles county superior court judge michael
jessic.
Uh, he says everything youargued today is absolutely fair
game for the resentencinghearing next thursday.
And that was when theprosecution showed a bunch of
pictures of jose and kim andendez's body.
Oh, just liquefied yeah allmessed up.
And then eric and lyle werelike you didn't tell us you were
(10:02):
gonna show that.
And then the prosecutor waslike well, you did all that.
Were like you didn't tell usyou were going to show that.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
And then the prosecutor was like well, you
did all that?
Yeah, we did.
They didn't have footage ofthem getting molested, though,
because that would Right.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
That would like pretty much even it out.
Yeah exactly that would levelthe playing field.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Sure Tape for tape.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Let's go to the tape.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Did you say t of the?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
taint.
So they are going to continueto show Jose and Kitty Menendez
that's what the prosecution isgoing to do and be like these
are the guys who did it andthey're real bad dudes.
And then the defense is goingto be like, as Kyle just said
well, they were all molested.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yeah, oh my God.
Well, I mean I.
I think that's fair, becausethere has been a lot of like
uptalk about like their quoteunquote innocence or their like
level of defense, becausethey've been and everyone's been
feeling emotional about it.
I mean, yeah, that's true, theygot molested.
This movie came out and showedthe horrors of it and then
(11:00):
people are kind of forgetting,like, no, no, no, they still
destroyed the fuck out of theirparents.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Right.
With shotguns I mean it isimportant to remember.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Yeah, they should have the dude from Menudo who
was molested by Jose Menendez.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Come on and be able to talk about it too, or like
his or like.
Wasn't one of their cousinsalso molested?
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Well, he wasn't molested, but he knew about it.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
So then we should bring those they should talk
about that and then also bringup the photos of how they shot
their parents.
Sure, they were a good shot.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Absolutely A tit for tat.
Yeah Well, what's sointeresting?
When you become a celebrity,you get to hang out with other
celebrities.
What and this is kind offascinating for Lyle Menendez
Uh-oh, it turns out that he hasa very strong relationship with
a certain comedian.
Oh, Miss.
Pat.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
No, did you say comedian?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Comedian.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Saying that it's a whorman.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Rosie O'Donnell.
Hell yeah, that's awesome,isn't that?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Irish national, rosie O'Donnell, yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I don't know, but they are good friends.
Wow.
So apparently Rosie has beenspeaking with Lyle Menendez for
years.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Really?
Yes, you guys said he was goingto come out and be a gay icon.
I think you might be right.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I said his brother.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Maybe he's going to take the twist.
Lyle's the one with the.
He's the bald one.
He's the bald one, eric is thetall one who's married to Tammy.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
Okay, yeah, eric and Tammy O'Donnell.
She says he started calling meon a regular basement.
He started calling me probablyfrom a basement almost from a
basement.
He started calling me on aregular basis from the tablet
phone thing they have.
Then she says he would tell meabout his life, what's been
(12:48):
going on in prison, and for thefirst time in my life I felt
safe enough to trust and bevulnerable and love a straight
man.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I'm dead.
For the first time she feltsafe talking to a man behind
bars that can't actually reachher in any kind of way.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
A straight man?
Yes, wow, so Lyle is thestraight man for her.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Because she felt a little unsafe around other
straight men.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, what the fuck?
The key to this is prison.
You know that, right yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Well, he killed his.
Like he's a double murderer.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yeah, but he's but I just feel so safe.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
But I feel so safe because he up and I'm in Ireland
.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Yeah, I don't know how can this go wrong?
Speaker 1 (13:29):
A land where there's no straight men?
Yes, so apparently they werediscussing the crime on Larry
King Live in 1996.
The former talk show host saidthat she believed Lyle and
Eric's claim of childhood abuseand molestation by their father
and that killing their parentswas an act of self-defense.
So she was standing on LarryKing Live back in 1996.
Wow, which is quite interesting, because of course most people
(13:50):
were like that's just false andthey're just trying to say
anything to get out of beingfound guilty.
Yeah, so after her appearance,o'donnell received a letter from
Lyle and it thanked her for hersupport and stated his belief
that she knew from a personalplace that what he was saying
(14:11):
was true.
So she says I know you'retelling the truth.
Oh, rosie O'Donnell 1996.
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Wow, yeah, I wonder if they just laid low and didn't
spend so much money after thedeaths.
Well, that was the problemExactly, and that's what made it
seem like they were in it justfor the money, because they were
just going doing everythinglavishly.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Yeah, because they were kids and they were morons.
Exactly yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
The actress herself said that she has experienced
something similar to Eric andLyle.
Yeah, yeah, she says that sheand her siblings had been
molested by their father.
Oh jeez, isn't that sad?
Yeah, so she understands wherethey're coming from.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
O'Donnell says, at that point I had not ventured
anywhere near this in my familyor in my therapy, so this case
really brought that to theforefront for her.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Oh wow, Interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Isn't that fascinating.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
So she didn't shoot her dad with a shotgun.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
She did not oh interesting, not oh interesting,
but she was like but I couldsee how that could make you feel
like doing that.
Yeah, absolutely right.
And then maybe she didn't havemaybe the sister, you know,
maybe they didn't talk about it.
Yeah, yeah and it seemed likeeric and lyle they were
discussing it, yeah, and thenthey were like let's go get that
gun let's go do the thing itwasn't until 2002, when the
(15:22):
siblings case gained new life ontikt TikTok, that the comic
reached back out.
O'Donnell explained that she hadheard of the prisoner's wife,
rebecca Sneed, who contacted herto see if she was interested in
speaking with him.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
Oh, that's nice.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
So there you go.
So they're having a nice time.
Dude his smile is so creepy.
It's a creepy smile.
It's a creepy smile.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
It is very creepy.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, o'donnell, she did say at first she was
concerned because he's amurderer, but now she doesn't
care.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Now she's over it.
Yeah, she's like yeah.
At first it's like scary, butthen you know.
You just look inside.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, look inside.
Apparently, lyle talked toO'Donnell, talked O'Donnell into
getting a dog for her son Clay,through a prison program he was
involved in.
Wow, the inmates were workingto train dogs and I guess she
got one of the dogs, so she'sgot.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Lyle's dog.
Wow, she's got a prison dog.
That's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Clay was paired with a Labrador mix that was trained
by a man who was in prison forarmed robbery.
Okay, so it wasn't exactly hisdog, but it was a man who was in
prison for armed robbery.
Yeah, I don't know if they letmurderers have the dog.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, it is ballsy that you know this is a
resentencing, not a pardoning, Iknow, but if this doesn't go
through, their next hope is toget pardoned.
But they're now associatingwith the one person the
president hates the most.
So I don't know if that's sucha good look, someone that ran.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Only Rosie O'Donnell.
Yeah, that was America, america, america.
Here we are.
So, o'donnell says I noticedthe difference in Clay
immediately that's her son whenhe got the dog.
She says I was so shocked tofind out all these tall tales I
heard from other mothers ofautistic children were true.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Wait what.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Her kid's autistic.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
But she said all of the tall tales that were true.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Yes, you know all the tall tales that mothers of
autistic children talk about aretrue.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I thought she was going to say all the tall tales
that mothers talk about are notfully.
Maybe she's talking about thetall tales that mothers talk
about are not fully.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
Maybe she's talking about the.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Tall tales are definitely true.
Okay, this is.
There was a new documentarythat came out.
It's called Unleashing Hope thepower of service dogs for
autism.
Hope was on a leash, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Now unleashed it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Yeah, unleash hope, wow.
So apparently, if you'reautistic, get yourself a service
dog.
Things are going to be good foryou.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Isn't that nice.
That is very nice.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
So, anyway, this is her film.
It comes on the heels of hermoving to Ireland once again.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Fantastic.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
So it's kind of a strange, that's strange.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, you never know who's connected in this world.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
No.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
And you're like huh, look at those two.
We didn't picture them asfriends, but okay.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Indeed, yeah, they're having a great time, sounds
like it, and Clay is happy withthe dog that Lyle sent.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
We'll keep you updated, hopefully by the end of
this week.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Oh yeah, we hope you know something, yes.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Because again it seems as if it's been a lot.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It's kind of interesting.
If they get out.
They're going to be in LA.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, they're going to be hanging out.
They're going to hang out atthe Ha Ha Club.
It's going to be great.
Where do you think they'regoing to go?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
first.
They're probably going to getmemberships right away at the
Soho House and just hang outthere looking for more
documentaries about themselves.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
That actually sounds right.
We're going to do moredocumentaries about themselves.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
We'd have to kill again.
I don't know it's interesting,but she's in Ireland so they
can't even really hang out.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Yeah, that's by design.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
For three and a half years at least.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Well, speaking of Donald Trump, this next story is
quite interesting.
A Wisconsin teen, my home state, the land of cheese and beer.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Wow, and serial killers?
Nice, yes, it's cold.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
So a Wisconsin teen and this is also involving
murder of parents a Wisconsinteen allegedly murdered his
mother and stepfather.
Why?
To obtain financial means andautonomy necessary to kill
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Wait, whoa, okay, there's a lot there's a lot.
There's a lot to unpack herethere really is Nikita Gassop,
17 years old.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
They were arrested in March and charged with two
counts of first-degree murderand two counts of hiding a
corpse after killing his mother,tatiana, and stepfather Donald
in their Waukesha home.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
That's so messed up, it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
right Waukesha, just outside of Milwaukee, a nice
little suburb area.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Did their parents like vote for Trump, even I
think he just wanted the moneyto go kill Donald Trump, he
could have.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Ask for a co-sign on a loan or a credit card.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Yeah, he could have done.
He could have got emancipated.
There's so many routes youcould take.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
There's a lot.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Why is the first thing?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
yeah, I gotta take my parents out, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Can't dig into my mom's purse if she's alive.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Right.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Yeah, what happened to just stealing from your
mother's purse?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Yeah, we're just not killing the president.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Well, yeah, you know oh yeah, yeah, it's America, all
right.
Well, we're talking about juststep one.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Step one yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Step one is really let's just go through the logic
of each step.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah right, he needs to attain finances.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yeah, so yes.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
He needs finances?
Yeah, but he didn't get a job.
He could have gone the Wendy'sroute.
Yeah, maybe automation screwedhim over.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
So after he killed his mother and stepfather, he
slashed their bullet-riddenbodies under blankets for weeks.
So he hid them under blankets,uh-oh.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
In the house I guess in the house, that's not—that
smell's going to come to get youpretty fast, oh at some point.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
yeah, they're just like where are your parents?
That's the kid.
Yeah, he's a scary kid.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Looking at the photo he looks.
Yeah, he looks pretty scary.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
You know, I mean he's got the flat jacket on.
He's like you know, it's notthe most appealing outfit, right
?
No, but it's gonna take a turnhere.
Okay, called for theassassination of trump and the
(21:35):
start of a revolution, to quote,save the white race.
Oh, okay, wait.
So he wanted to martyr trumpand then be like hey hey, now
we're going to have a race war,and now me, Nikita is going to
save the white race.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
Okay, where is this name from I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Russia.
Yeah, he looks Russian,Probably Russian, yeah.
So then the teen he wasscrawling.
So there's a bunch of drawings.
They're calling them scrawlings, which I assume just means bad
drawings.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Scrawlings, scrawlings, which, I assume,
just means bad drawings,scrawlings.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Scrawlings, scrawlings.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
He had a lot of images of Adolf Hitler, and then
this was the following text.
It said Hail Hitler, hail thewhite race, hail victory.
So he was hailing a lot ofstuff.
What a weather report, wow.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Maybe Just not himself, definitely not himself,
definitely not his parentseither.
I guess his parents reallydidn't vote for Trump.
There's a lot.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Yeah, this is a whole roundabout way to start a race
for him.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
Yeah, he's like yeah, we'll just do the necessary,
like martyr things.
He's just a pawn in the game oflife, just a larger plan.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Which I wonder if that one idiot who tried to kill
Trump.
I wonder if that was his planalso.
I don't know.
These guys are a little wacky.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
They're not thinking because the opposite side is
looking at Trump like he's thenew Hitler.
So then you're going to killthe new Hitler and praise the
old one.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Well then, but God, it's tough.
17-year-old Waukesha boy triedto get into the brain.
I, yeah, yes, tried to get intothe brain.
I think he thinks people aregoing to be so mad they're going
to take up firearms, and theneveryone was just going to kill
everyone that isn't white, andthen vice versa, oh, and then
the race war will start.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
The race, war will start, and then the white people
will win.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
It ends with the white people winning.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Well, in his little, in his lore, right, yeah,
investigators say he was intouch with other parties about
his plan to kill the presidentand overthrow the government of
the United States.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Was he trying to be the president?
Yeah, he was going to be thepresident.
Oh, so he's trying to be thenew Hitler.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I guess so.
And then they say and he paidfor, at least in part, a drone
and explosives to be used as aweapon of mass destruction, oh
damn, To commit the attack.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Oh damn.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
So he's on it that is messed up.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
I mean now that they've caught him.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
This is a lot.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
This kid's going to be stuffed in a shoebox.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, he really is what you writing in there.
Hey, Nikita, what you writingin there.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Just sometimes ask your kid what's in their little
notebooks.
It's not, nikita, what youwriting in there.
Yeah, just sometimes ask yourkid what's in their little
notebooks it's not Nikita, it'sNikita.
Nikita, so they say otherparties with whom Kassop was in
contact appeared to have beenaware of his plan and action and
they provided assistance toKassop in carrying them out.
(24:23):
So he had a whole crew ofmorons.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
Wow, wow, oh my God.
They probably really believedin him, like he is the new
Hitler or something.
Yeah, he thought he haddisciples.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
Well, the facial hair isn't matching up.
He's very young.
He's got that young hair, yeah,yeah.
See the grease.
It's just a, you know, teenager, teenage boy, hair is greasy,
it's always greasy.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
They Teenage boy hair is greasy.
It's always greasy.
They're always so oily, yeahZitty.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
They're nervous.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Clammy, A little sweaty yeah sweaty.
What are you so nervous about?
Oh, I'm trying to start a racewar.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
It's a lot of work and it's a lot of pressure
Talking to girls.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I'm talking to girls trying to start a race war.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You know, you know race, for you know Trying to
fight this boner.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Authorities also uncovered materials on the
teen's phone related to theOrder of the Nine Angles.
Wow, it's a network ofindividuals holding new Nazi,
racially motivated, extremistviews.
Oh God.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
I mean, if you're Donald Trump, you're like aren't
?
Speaker 1 (25:20):
you supposed to be one of my people.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Yeah, exactly, and you're going to kill me too.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
You're going to kill, kill me.
Does anybody want me aliveother than dana white right?
So he faced his charges,including uh well, obviously,
murder, um, and uh yeah,apparently he just wanted ten
thousand dollars.
Oh gee, that's all he thoughtit was gonna take.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Could have ten thousand bucks he really could
have gotten that withoutmurdering his parents.
But there's definitelysomething a little more
deep-seated in there.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
This kid's got to work out oh yeah, he's gonna
have a lot of time to work thatout there is a lot more reason
that he killed his parents yeppolice performed a welfare check
at the family's home february28th, after the teen was absent
from the waukesha west highschool for two weeks.
Oh wow, so he've got to pretendlike everything's okay.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Yeah, mistake number one.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
You've got your stepdad and your mom rotting
under a bunch of blankets,you've got to go to school.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah, that's the weird thing about it you do.
You have to be exactly the samestudent.
You were Not any better, notany worse.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Everything's just fine, still kind of creepy.
Perfect, nice Yep Parentsprobably still alive, probably
Cops.
Found the teenager's mom buriedunder piles of clothes and a
blanket in the hallway near thekitchen.
That is so gross, with multipleshots to the neck, upper torso,
abdomen and right wrist Damn.
(26:40):
So maybe the right wrist mayhave been a defensive wound and,
as you can see in the mugshot,he does have acne.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
He has a lot of acne.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
And then Kasim's stepfather was discovered in the
home's first floor office witha gunshot wound to the head.
So, he was just hanging outwith these bodies for like weeks
.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Dude, he did a school shooting in his own house.
What an asshole.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Yeah, both bodies were decomposed beyond
recognition, forcing authoritiesto use other methods to confirm
their identity.
Like their teeth.
Yeah, like their teeth Hair.
He has not yet entered a plea,but it don't look good, does not
?
Look good.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
He should.
Yeah, no, Take away any pen andpaper from this kid.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
No more scrawlings for you.
No more scrawlings.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Jotting down ideas.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Iroglyphics.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Well, speaking of school, this story is
interesting.
Athletics.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Things I don't have.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
You do.
You're very good at yoga.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
Oh, that's okay.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
That's a very athletic thing to do.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
I can do self-athletics.
I'm not good in team sports.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yes, and nor was this child we're going to speak
about, but I do want to ask thequestion if something happens in
a basketball game or a footballgame, should you be charged
with a felony?
What depends a west virginiahigh school basketball player.
He is facing a felony chargefor repeatedly fouling one of
his opponents.
Apparently he fouled the guy sohard he broke his nose wow, and
(28:19):
now he's been arrested.
His name is gage ketterman.
Wow, and he.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Wow, and he's 18 years old Dude, Gage Ketterman,
18 years old, pumped on steroids.
He was born to be pumped onsteroids.
Be punching guys on the fuckingcourt, Gage yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
It's both a cool name and a douchey name, yeah, but
it can kind of go either.
It's very superhero-ish.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Kind of Gage.
Anyway, he's a West Virginiahigh school athlete either.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
It's very superhero-ish Kind of Gage
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
He's a West Virginia high school athlete, oh my god,
is that him that's?
Him Just seeing a picture.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
This episode has a lot of scary whites Wow, I see
that.
Yes, between Rosie O'Donnelland Gage.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Just flaring those nostrils away.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Go on A West Virginia high school student.
He's facing adult felonycharges after he allegedly
elbowed his opponent in the face, breaking his nerves, during a
basketball game.
My question again is it's Idon't know.
I feel like it's a sacred space.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
That's a sacred space .
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Where you kind of get to get away with a little bit
of violence.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
Yeah, isn't that why you guys do sports to begin with
?
Right?
That's literally the point.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
That's why they always say, well, put that boy
in sports.
He's got a lot of gumption.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, he's got to work out a lot of that energy.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah, otherwise he's going to become a serial.
You know something?
Speaker 2 (29:37):
A serial, what, what?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Something Killer or that's.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yes, so he's 18.
He was at the Harmon School.
He was arrested on Monday forthe alleged in-game attack.
I wonder how they decided to.
I guess the kid that took thehit went home very upset and
their parents decided to presscharges, or?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
something Apparently the kid that he elbowed in the
nose.
His nose was bleeding for fourhours and then his parents had
to bring him to the hospital,and it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
But it happened during the heat of the moment.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
But they said he kept on doing it.
Is he one of those thingswhere— Well, you get six, you
get six a game.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, you get six fouls a game.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Make them count.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Unless you get technicals, then you get two or
one, depending on the rules.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And there's no word If this game I think the ref was
like play on.
So West Virginia State Policethey were notified about the
assault February 27th after theinjury was reported by the
student's mother.
I'm just not sure about this.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
But it's like I said, if he did it with malicious
intent, like he already plannedto be hurting this kid as much
as possible before he evenstarted the game, he wasn't
scrolling in his notebook beforethe game.
I don't believe he wasn'tscrolling in his notebook before
the game.
I don't believe he could havebeen plotting in his brain he
could have been plotting.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Could have been plotting.
The woman claimed her son waselbowed in the face yeah, the
victim's nose reportedlybleeding profusely, as I said,
for more than four hours, andthere was some video from the
game that was reviewed by statepolice.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I want to see.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
And they said that the jab was directly in the face
of the opposing player.
Damn Throughout the game.
The clip has also showed himallegedly taunting multiple
players by striking them in theback of the head.
God what a bully.
Yeah, I don't think he reallyunderstood what basketball is.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
Or he was watching a lot of 1980s NBA, because this
used to happen all the time.
There would be one person thatwent out, they were called the
enforcer and they would go elbowpeople in the face until the
other team fought them True.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Anthony Mason, new York Knicks.
Baby, let's go.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
It's frowned upon in today's sports.
It's not.
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:41):
It is.
If the kid needs a frickin'mugshot, I think he needs a
talkin' to and be like.
That's not what athletics isall about.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
I don't even know if this is the kid's mugshot.
I think this is him with, likehis basketball shot.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Well, he's scary, he's a terrifying gentleman.
Yeah, I think it's a mugshot,but maybe not.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
It looks like I don't know the walls of my gym, so it
does look like a school mugshot.
Like right in front of the vent.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, right, yeah that's where you want to put
your butt, yeah Yum.
Authorities noted that in thevideo, ketterman can be seen
quote wiping something off theelbow he had just used to strike
the union player.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Damn Like what.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
Like his boogers, blood Like pins, and needles.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean just to arrest the kid.
The officers concluded thatKetterman's actions seemed quote
intentional and criminallymalicious in nature.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, I just I want to see.
I want to see footage.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
I've been trying to find it.
I can't Damn.
I couldn't find any either.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
I guess, maybe because now it's like police
evidence or something.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Maybe also.
I think everyone else isprobably underage, but does that
stop footage?
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
So because Ketterman was 18 at the time of the
incident, he's going to becharged as an adult.
But again, they don't even sayif he was kicked out of the game
, right?
I don't know, I just don't knowif arresting is the right way
to go in this case.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I mean it's also on.
Like the coach, if you'reseeing a kid, that's that out of
control.
You've got to take him out ofthe game.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
You've got to do what's going on.
He should have pulled him backa couple of hits ago.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, he should be bopping people in the back of
the head.
It's basketball.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Should have gotten into wrestling, but even in
wrestling you can't do that.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
One malicious assault and two attempted malicious
assaults.
So he swung and missed a coupletimes.
I guess.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
It's not that common to get felony charges while
playing a basketball game.
No, I've never heard of it.
No, but I guess that's the newworld we're living in.
Granted, he broke somebody'snose, but that went for four
hours.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
I mean, did he try tilting his head up and
squeezing it yeah.
For a little bit, Because ifyou prematurely just stop doing
that, it's going to keepbleeding.
Man, For four hours.
It wasn't like a river of blood.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
I think it was a river of blood.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
You think it was a river of blood.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
The mom was like it's a river of blood.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
It wouldn't stop for four hours.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
It's a river of blood .
It wouldn't stop for four hours.
What if it was just like?
Every time he took the littlenose, the paper tissue glops in
his nostrils pulled it out itwas still red.
He's like still bleeding, Stillbleeding.
And then he puts another one inthere, hangs out, plays video
games.
Hour later still bleeding,Still red glops, Still red glops
.
And then he just puts anotherone in and mom's like oh my god,
you've been bleeding for fourhours now.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Four hours.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
We have to go to the hospital.
Yeah, it could have been likethat it could have been like
that.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
I think also the guy who got hit should have.
Just you had to hit him back.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, yeah, stand up for yourself, damn it.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah, well, then his mom, his mom had to go report
him to the police.
Anyway, I don't know, don'tknow that just happened he does
it does.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
He does also seem like a loose screw where he's
like.
His energy is maybe hinting.
Juvenile detention yeah, yeahso maybe you know, bring, bring
him in, teach him like, give hima smack on the wrist and be
like hey, maybe you startlearning how to play sports or
take up fucking boxing boxing,there we go, yeah, you need
something a little bit morecombat yeah, yeah, concentrated
(35:18):
focus that
Speaker 1 (35:19):
yeah well, speaking of violence, not all violence
involves blood.
No, or punching, or elbowing.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Words are violence.
Ben.
Yeah, because sometimes you canbeat someone with an orange and
it doesn't leave bruises.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Yeah, true, very true .
Okay, great, good to know.
There was a fella.
He was an apprentice at agarage.
His name was Brooklyn ForresterHayes.
He claimed yes, brooklynForrester Hayes, fancy.
Yeah, that's cool, he's notfrom around here, this is over
across the pond.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Oh gotcha.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Yes, brooklyn Forrester Hayes.
He was real mad because he saysa coworker has been tampering
with his lunch.
Oh yeah, and he didn't likethat one bit.
Oh no, yes, he was 21 years old, he is.
He's real pissed off and hestarted making threats towards
the other employees, telling himhe would mess up anyone's
(36:12):
toolbox and damage his bike ifhe found out that that person
was messing with his lunch.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
Not messing with my lunch, not messing with his
toolbox.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yes, he said he was going to mess with this guy's
toolbox and damage his bike.
Forrester Hayes was fired fromhis role at the Scania Truck
Depot after bosses saw theabusive messages he had been
sending.
Abusive, yes, wow.
He took the firm to anemployment tribunal, claiming he
was unfairly dismissed and thatthere was a culture of banter
(36:46):
at Scania.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
Right, right, what drove him over the edge.
So he well, no, he was sayingthat was like a facetious thing
where he wasn't like I'm gonnamess up.
He's like all right, guys, stoptaking my fucking electronic
and mess with your toolbox.
There's going to be a Jesus nutmissing from your bike.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
So they said pranks are common.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
And Forrester Hayes was handed a final warning and
said hey, you better stopthreatening these people, okay?
He then grabbed him by thecollar and held on before a
supervisor intervened.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
So he's grabbing this guy stop messing with my lunch.
Well, now that's turning intosomething else.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
Yes.
Shortly after starting hisshift on July 2023, he went to
the tea room for a drink andfound that his lunch bag had
been tampered with.
He found his crisps those are,chips smashed, chocolate bars
crushed, and someone had openedhis sandwich box and poked
finger-sized holes through thesandwiches.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
You know, they licked their finger before they did it
too.
Yeah, he got all mad, that'swhy he was all mad.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I'd be pissed too.
Yeah, they also opened up teabags and sprinkled tea leaves
all over his lunch bag.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
All right, that's messed up.
It's messed up.
Yeah, I'm starting to see whyhe threatened people's toolboxes
and their bike and their bike,which is pretty adorable.
They're messing with our food.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It's like Wallace and Gromit yeah, food.
It's like Wallace and Gromityeah.
Forrester Hayes says, quote hewas super upset, dismayed and
angry and now had no food untilhe got home.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And then he was hangry on top of that.
Oh my God, You're lookingforward to that sandwich in the
fridge.
Four hours of work you finallyget your lunch break.
Everyone's annoying you.
You're like I want a fuckingsandwich.
I want that.
And then you discover that it'sbeen tampered with.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
The only thing I will say when it comes to the crisps
I don't mind a nice smashed upbag of chips.
No, Kind of take it down thatway.
No, I need my chip.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
I need them to be whole.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
Yeah, when they're crunched, I need my teeth to be
the crunchers of the chip.
Yes, but it's a little easiersometimes if you just crunch
them, crunch them, crunch themand then open it up and you just
pour them into your mouth.
Speaker 2 (38:54):
Nah, no, no, no, no, no.
I want the satisfaction offeeling this like very fragile
chip just crack.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Yeah, I get depressed getting to the end of the bag
of chips when it's all just likethe crushed up part.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Yeah, yeah.
Because into your mouth it's acrunch.
Speaker 3 (39:09):
There's still crunch.
Speaker 2 (39:11):
No, it's like already pre-chewed for you.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
It's pre-crunched, it's not wet, it's almost,
because it's like pretty muchall oil too.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
It is almost wet.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
Well, anyway, he thinks the same way that you
guys think, because he threw thecontents of the lunchbox in the
bin, which is the garbage.
He said I hate this, I hatethis this year, that's it.
Forrester Hayes assumed theculprit was an apprentice on the
early shift and told thecolleague I'm going to fuck him
up for it.
Then he says, quote if I seehis fucking toolbox open
(39:42):
tomorrow, I'm gonna fuck upeverything up in there.
So he's gonna mess with histools.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
What are you gonna do ?
Bend the screws.
How do you mess with the screwsLike you just draw a dick on
each one of them.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
I can't use this anymore.
He put a cock on it.
So Forrester Hayes, he sentmessages to everyone on the
early shift asking them if theyknew who was responsible.
In a Snapchat message to anapprentice he suspected, he says
if I find out it was you, yourtoolbox is fucked.
He is so mad he's going to goafter the guy's toolbox.
(40:20):
He's going to go after thetoolbox, which is wow.
That's pretty aggressive stuff.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
I don't understand what he's going to do.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
I feel bad for this guy because, like every group of
friends in a guy's group, weall have had someone where, like
you, just fuck with them allthe time because of their
reaction and you're like this isadorable you're gonna fuck up
my toolbox yeah, and it's likethey do kind of, the more they
get upset, the more it's kind ofhilarious.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
Yes, exactly it gets funnier and funnier.
And you don't mean for it, andbut they get that one day they
just snap yeah, dude man, it'sbeen all love this whole time.
Why do you come on yeah?
Look at what you do?
You start adding the fluffyshit to our fucking wrenches.
Yeah you just, you just attachcotton to everything so it's not
(41:04):
sharp anymore like that's yourrevenge.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Someone's last words are like but, I was nice to you
for.
But I was nice to you,forrester, I was nice to you,
not nice enough, yep.
So he says if it was you,you're paying for my lunch and
if you don't, I'll cut your tirevalves off.
He's going to cut tire valvesoff.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That's a little more than messing with my toolbox,
buddy.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
It is In an exchange of messages with another
colleague.
He said the culprit had fuckedup all my food for tonight.
And then the colleague repliedyeah, that's a bit much.
I would only do the crisps atworst, not everything.
So he's like I'll fuck withyour crisps.
He's got some decency.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Yeah, he's like oh man, that was bad form.
See, if it were me, this is howI would attack the lunchbox.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Right, put a lock on your lunchbox.
Yeah, this is adorable.
So then, forrester Hayes, theyhad a tribunal.
They're calling this a garagetribunal.
A tribunal, yes, which I canonly imagine.
Speaker 2 (42:10):
There's like an emergency bell that's never rang
.
Yeah Ringing it.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
My God, it's time for a tribunal.
We haven't had one in 25 years.
Yeah, so he says I have ADHD.
He's like I have ADHD everybody.
That's why he was saying someof those things impulsively.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
First of all, isn't that Tourette's?
It could be?
First of all, isn't thatTourette's?
It could be?
Speaker 1 (42:33):
Second of all.
Speaker 2 (42:34):
So he got the fake diagnosis wrong.
Speaker 1 (42:37):
Perhaps.
But ADHD, you are a littleimpulsive, I have it, I'm
impulsively fun, do you tellpeople you're going to ruin
their lunchboxes or theirtoolboxes?
Speaker 2 (42:47):
No, no, thinks back, has to remember about it.
I don't know anyone that worksno.
No.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
Thinks back has to remember about it.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
No.
Speaker 3 (42:50):
I don't know anyone that works, but this is what I'm
talking about.
This is part of the reaction,so this is going to get him made
fun of even more, becausethey'll be like oh I'm sorry, I
have ADHD.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
What's?
The guy who said he wasautistic and that's why he
killed her?
Goldberger, yeah, yeah, that'sright four people.
I'm autistic, okay.
So he said at the time he wasso impulsive he quote did not
stop to think about theconsequences of the messages.
The following day, a foremanasked all of the apprentices if
(43:22):
they knew what happened to thelunch did anyone fess up?
Speaker 2 (43:27):
nobody wow well, yeah because it's gone too far oh
it's when you can.
Once it starts avalanching likethis, then you fully pull back
and you hope no one makes eyecontact with you.
Speaker 1 (43:39):
Just one dude with a little pickle under his nails
Hoping to do a DNA test.
So no one owned up to that, butsome did say they received some
messages that were abusive.
Speaker 2 (43:52):
Oh they would, oh, they would, oh, they would, yeah
, oh, oh, I know, okay.
So this whole time I've beenthinking about how to fuck with
someone's toolbox in a cute way,pouring honey all over the
tools.
Speaker 3 (44:04):
Oh, that would fuck everything up.
Winnie the Pooh it.
I'd be so pissed.
Speaker 2 (44:07):
Or just smashing a banana into all of it.
That would work.
Yeah, because it'd be soannoying to just get everything
out and you got to just cleaneverything.
It's still going to get stickyFlies are going to get on it.
You're never going to fully getall the banana out.
It's always going to smell likebanana in your toolbox.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
And that's really the only way to combat a food crime
is with more food.
Anyway, he was fired and now heis claiming that he was
unfairly dismissed and that theinvestigation that the tribunal
again.
I would love to know who thesepeople are was inadequate, and
the managers did not take hisADHD into account before they
made the decision.
Speaker 2 (44:44):
Let me see a prescription.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
Yes, the tribunal ruled that his bosses were
entitled to conclude hisbehavior was unacceptable and
that dismissal was necessary.
Speaker 2 (44:53):
What tribunal?
It sounds like they took cargrease and painted on their
faces for this fucking ritual.
The tribunal, yes.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
It was very serious.
Speaker 2 (45:04):
So so serious.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
It's very serious.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
And then, meanwhile, this kid is pulling a Ross.
He's just like my sandwich Getsfired over it.
It's just like my sandwich, hegets fired over it.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
It's just amazing.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
What a great time.
All he did was get mad thatpeople were fucking with his
stuff.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
I mean they fingered his sandwich.
Speaker 3 (45:22):
I'm with him.
The tribunal should have stoodup for him.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
He said I'm going to destroy your toolbox and shit.
Speaker 2 (45:27):
If I were the boss I would have been like, hey, if I
see any destroyed toolboxes,pretty much going to know it was
you, it was you.
Yeah, Told everyone you woulddo it.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And it's all empty threats.
Look at this kid he's adorable,he's so cute.
That's why they're fucking withhim.
Speaker 1 (45:39):
He's not that adorable.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
He's got a baby face.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
It's just so mad when it gets all red and angry.
Speaker 2 (45:47):
He's one of those people that is like I'm not
crying because I just get.
I tear up when I'm angry.
Speaker 1 (45:52):
I cry when I get mad.
Yeah, yeah, those guys arefunny.
That is me though.
Yeah, totally.
You get all red faced.
Then you just talk about itnonstop for like three freaking
months, like we know, kyle, yes,oh, god damn, anyway, all damn,
(46:12):
anyway, all right.
Well, let's see Anything fromthe chat.
Yes, should basketball playersbe arrested on the court now?
Speaker 3 (46:20):
Well, chris G said, did we learn nothing from the
eyebrow incident?
Speaker 1 (46:23):
regarding this, Great , it's so true, this is the
eyebrow type guy you just don't.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
All over again.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
But I do understand You're hungry and lunch and but
I would be pissed, I would bepissed.
Yeah, I would be pissed.
It's kind of funny.
Yeah, but also come on.
Speaker 3 (46:37):
Jeff says ban him for the season.
No charges for the kid that wasthrowing elbows around.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
Okay, there you go.
I'm fine with that.
Speaker 3 (46:54):
His tourniquet says he was Okay.
I agree with that.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
Whether or not legal, we don't know.
He had huge nostrils.
She said the nostrils aregiving bowling ball sniffer, the
nostrils are giving eight ballsniffer.
But yeah sure, whatever.
Speaker 3 (47:01):
In response to the Menendez brothers being friends
with Rosie O'Donnell, they saidfor the pardon, they're going to
be schmoozing with RoseanneBarr.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
So they'll be on Trump's good side then.
Oh yes, that's right, oh bar sothey'll be on Trump's good side
then.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
Oh yes, that's right, it's a tale of two roses, yes.
Speaker 3 (47:17):
And then a lot of people talk about the Karen Reid
documentary.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Oh yes, so you were saying that has now been moved.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yes, the trial was going to start tomorrow, but
they released one juror, sothey're down to 15.
They're going to need 16 to 18before the trial starts, so
that's going to continuetomorrow.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
That is annoying.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
I've got a bunch of DMs about that and we will be
covering it, because Kyle knowsa lot, jerry knows a lot, yeah,
and I think she looks kind ofcute.
But apparently you guys don'tlike her very much, but you also
don't think she's guilty.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
I like her.
I don't mind that.
Speaker 2 (47:52):
Yeah, yeah, there's a lot about her presentation and
her just delivery of her naturalpersonality.
Is it screaming likable?
No, and because of that it'snot.
It's like people are using thatunlikability to be like she's
guilty.
Speaker 3 (48:04):
That bitch is guilty.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
I think she's not super likable as a person, but I
do think she's innocent, yes,super likable as a person, but I
do think she's innocent.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yes, all right.
Well, we will be covering thatstory.
Thank you all so much forjoining our Monday episode.
We will be back tomorrow andwe're going to have a great week
ahead.
Okay, everyone, hail yourself.
We'll talk to you soon.
Bye, bye.
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