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That shadowy organization pulling strings behind the scenes? Turns out they might be more like high school pranksters with unlimited government funding than sophisticated spies from your favorite thriller. 

The CIA's recently declassified operations reveal an intelligence agency that once hatched a plan to drop extra-large condoms labeled "small" over communist countries to destroy male morale during the Cold War. Because nothing says psychological warfare like making your enemies feel inadequate about their manhood while American men supposedly strutted around with Magnum-sized confidence.

But wait, it gets stranger. Remember Osama bin Laden? The agency commissioned the creator of GI Joe to design action figures with faces that would peel off in sunlight to reveal demonic red skin and green eyes. The plan was to distribute these terrifying toys to children across the Middle East. Only three prototypes were ever made, but the fact this idea made it past a brainstorming session tells you everything you need to know about CIA creativity.

Sexual blackmail was another favorite tactic. The agency produced pornographic films with actors impersonating foreign leaders, including one called "Happy Days" showing President Sukarno of India. The plan hilariously backfired when Sukarno was reportedly impressed with how the film portrayed his sexual prowess. Other ventures included remote-controlled dogs with devices implanted in their skulls, testing psychics who claimed to bend spoons with their minds, and of course, the infamous MK Ultra mind control experiments.

These bizarre operations raise important questions about government transparency and what exactly our intelligence agencies are doing with taxpayer money. Are today's classified operations equally ridiculous, or have they evolved into something more sophisticated? Subscribe to hear more strange-but-true stories that make you question everything you thought you knew about how power really works.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I feel good.
I feel good, I feel great.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Let's do it, Lucy goosey.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Put them cans on.
Put them cans on.
Hey, what's up everyone?
Welcome to OK Bud, the podcastwhere everything's going to be
OK Bud.
I am Ben Kissel at Ben Kissel1,joined by Jerry Arcano.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Hello and.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Miss underscore, jerry.
That's J-E-R-I-I and KylePlouffe.
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Send us pictures of your cats,your dogs, stories that you want

(00:48):
to tell.
In my case, I am starting a30-day alcohol-free challenge.
If you want to join me on that,let's get that going on.
Shoot me some inspirationalemails if you would like to, and
we will all get healthytogether for bikini season
that's about to come.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Not bikini season.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Yeah, I'm going to start wearing bikini, bikini Ben
.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Do you have all of your swimsuits ready, ready to
go?
Got your halter tops and yourbandos, your strapless and your
strapfuls.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
Your pasties.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Your pasties.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, I'm just going to use pastries.
A couple of ecla Pasties.
Yeah, your pasties.
Yeah, I'm going to use pastries.
Yeah, there it is A couple ofeclairs.
There it is.
Sorry.
My nipples are showing off, asthough I ate the Danish that I
was covering them up with.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
All right, well, we have an interesting it's a
longer story about the CIA, the.
Cia yes, the CentralIntelligence Agency, we're going
to get into that.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
They do exist, right, they do Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
They're actually everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
They exist and not exist.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Are they like Mr Smith in the Matrix?
Yeah, they're like nowhere, buteverywhere at the same time.
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Okay, kind of scary, yeah Kind of scary, but don't
worry, she looked terrified.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
Thank God for that, just like a bunch of women.
Yes, it was pretty amazing.
That was real.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, that was so horrible, I thought it was fake.
I did too.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
They acted like they were at a Nashville bachelorette
party.
They were driving the bicyclewhere you have to bike to drink.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
You have to pedal it to keep it going.
Oh my Lord.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
And then Katy Perry was like yeah, I love astronomy,
astrology all the stars.
She actually said thatAstrology.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Anyway, it doesn't matter and she was French
kissing the ground.
When she got back I saw thatshe was French kissing the
ground.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Well, she was kissing the ground yeah, okay Well, was
it with or without tongue?
Was it in French?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
I think, it was.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I would say that's more like Ozzy Osbourne?

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, it wasn't.
I don't think it was fulltongue on Mother Earth.
No, yeah, they spent a total oftwo minutes up in space and
they did say I respect MotherEarth more now.
And it only cost $11 milliontotal.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Oh wow, million dollars total.
Oh wow, yeah, it was reallygreat and it was only like a
hundred million carbonfootprints.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
350 000 feet in the air, 10 times what a normal
flight goes.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's insane it's crazy wow, pretty cool I mean?

Speaker 1 (03:16):
does that just mean that, like, because sometimes
when I'm in a plane and it'sgoing higher and higher and then
I'm like, oh, it's gone highenough and they're?
Like no, we still have another20 000 feet to climb.
Yeah, seriously, it's gone highenough.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
And they're like no, we still have another 20,000
feet to climb.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, seriously, it's like that, but for like 11
minutes, I guess because that'swhat they did.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
I don't even know why they tell us that.
What does that mean to me?
What is 20,000 feet?

Speaker 1 (03:33):
What is 20,000?
All.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I know is if I'm off the ground or on the ground.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
No, like I said, it is something, especially when I
jumped off a plane and wentskydiving you did that I did
that once.
I did it multiple times, yeah,no, out of control, and that was
definitely one of those timeswhere I was like hey, I feel
like we're high enough andthey're like oh no, we have a
couple thousand feet to climbstill, and I'm like no, I can't

(04:01):
tell the measurements.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Db Coopers, yeah, that's amazing.
Well, let's go to our firststory.
It involves heights and yourfavorite Jerry cats.
Ooh, yes, my faves.
A cat was stuck up in a tree 20feet high for nine days.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Oh, Wait why?

Speaker 3 (04:18):
Because it's a cat.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
The cat.
It could have climbed down,jumped down.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
It's a Maine Coon Snowy.
It's a scaredy cat.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
It has no excuse.
Yeah, what Kyle said, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
It's a big cat.
So its owner, raza Aoub, 36years old, it says that his cat
jumped into the neighbor's carand was taken on a trip by
accident.
And then he shows up and thenthey're like whoa, what's this
cat doing here?
And the cats are like you'renot my dad.
And then he ran into the woodsseeking refuge up a tree.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Aw, that's so sad.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yes, it was so they stole a cat.
No, the cat jumped into theircar, allegedly Raza and his
daughter Ayla she's nine.
They were like, oh my God,where's our cat?
So they went to Facebook, asone does.
They put up around 50 postersas well.
So eventually a local saw Snowyup in a tree.

(05:18):
Snowy, yes, but the felinerefused to come down.
So he was helped to the groundby a tree surgeon.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Firefighter.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
No a tree surgeon.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Is that another word for firefighter?

Speaker 3 (05:32):
It's someone who goes in.
Does maybe a prostate exam on atree makes sure the milk is
coming out well, maybe does alittle honk-honk on the tree
boobs.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Asks if it's a cough.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yes, turn your head and please, cough tree.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
The family thinks it may have gone up the tree for up
to nine days.
Wow, yes, raza he's a mortgageadvisor.
He says we were euphoric.
We just wanted to sit at homeand cuddle her all the time.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
You said he's a mortgage advisor.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
He does mortgages.

Speaker 1 (06:04):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, that sounds like a real thing.
A tree surgeon is just alandscaper.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
No, it's a tree surgeon.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Tree surgeon.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
Scalpel.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Yeah.
Doctor, doctor but is that justfor cosmetic reasons?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
I think that it is a little bit bloviating.
Yeah, no, I don't just humptrees, I'm a tree surgeon.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
I got my new little tree-tree-el going on.

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Snowy's family noticed she was missing when
they got up for their Ramadanmeal at 4 am.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
So I think, because Ramadan you can't eat during the
daylight.
I believe yeah, so you got toget it in.

Speaker 1 (06:37):
You got to get it in when the get-in's good.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
Which, now that I think about, it.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
I might be Muslim.
I eat mostly Full diet in thedark.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yes, Eating in the daylight.
That's where all the caloriesare, it's true.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
It's very true.
All I do during the daytime isdrink coffee and these
electrolytes.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yes, so Ramadan is just essentially going goblin
mode.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
You go goblin mode.
Yeah, it's reverse gizmo fromyes, from, of course Gremlins,
gremlins.
Yes, so she was spotted later.
There was a tip.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Why didn't the people that accidentally took this cat
on a joyride, why didn't theyimmediately tell their neighbors
?

Speaker 3 (07:14):
I don't know if they knew who the cat belonged to.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Oh, so she was spotted at the tip two days
later and Raza spent dayswalking around at night shouting
her name, so he probably justlooks all crazy.
That's a very expensive lookingcat man, Maine Coon yeah, I
would have lost my shit too.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Also you just wonder, like why is this guy wandering
our village yelling snowy Right,maybe he's high off of cocaine.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Right Like dude, you finished the bag yesterday.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Well, it's interesting because the police
actually stopped him once at 4am.
So Raza was going around theneighborhood be like Snowy,
snowy.
And then the cops were like sir, what are you doing, like shut
up?

Speaker 1 (07:56):
But I'm looking for something.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
The cops said no, you're not a burglar.
And do you know why they knewhe wasn't a burglar?

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Because he was announcing himself very loudly
Because he was like I'm inmortgages.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
No, because in his bag he had cat treats.
That's what they said the copswere like oh, it's catnip.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I swear it's catnip yeah.

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Cops were like no way , you're a burglar, he's got cat
treats Right, so that got himoff.
The cat was found up a tree.
After five hours of coaxing,the family found an
animal-loving tree surgeon oncheck-a-trade.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
What's a tree surgeon ?
What is exact Google treesurgeon?

Speaker 3 (08:32):
They found him A tree surgeon.
A tree surgeon.
They found it on check-a-trade.
On what Check-a-trade?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Like a trade, you Google tree surgeon.
It comes up landscapers andtree care.
Well, like a trade, you Googletree surgeon it comes up
landscapers and tree care.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Well, they're calling him a tree surgeon.
Certified arborists.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
Not an arborist.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Arbor Day, one of the better holidays out there that
no one seems to celebrate.
We have to love our trees.
That's true, raza says we wereall in tears clapping when he
got safely down.
It was so overwhelming to knowwe would be taking care, we
would be taking her home againat last.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Okay.
Well, how does it feel to knowthat you raised your giant, wild
, almost wild cat to be a totalpuss?
Why?
Because he just stayed in atree for nine days long.
My cat better fend for himselfa little bit better than that.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Well, he had to live for nine days, so he must have
had some water, maybe ate acouple of mice something like
that.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
It's a stereotype of cats that they get stuck in the
tree and then the firefighterhas to come get them.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
No, that's not a stereotype.
Yes, it is.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
That's a cat stereotype that they get stuck
in a tree.
I think it's a stereotype.
They do it.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, sometimes they just fall and then they
seem to live.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
And they always land on their feet.
Except my cat would not land onhis feet because he doesn't
have whiskers.
Why not Because he's hairless,oh yeah, so he has like really
bad balance for a cat.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
I told you my brother , my gay brother.
He used to trim his cat'swhiskers because he wanted to
make him look better.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Fur looked better, but it was very painful.
No, that's not good.
That's not good at all.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
That cat's name was Charcoal.
It was always walking, allweird.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
That sucks because probably his face was constantly
hurting and stinging fromgetting his whiskers cut.
And then Chris was like just alittle snip here and here You're
a pretty cat now no, my cat,just he doesn't have.
He has like the little, likeholes where they're supposed to
be, but he doesn't grow whiskers.
Wow, and he just walks away andthen he hits his head on walls.
It's hilarious.

(10:32):
That's kind of funny, it is.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Well, speaking of bodies, this is interesting.
We have mentioned the show, themovie Wild Things before.
Wild Things have mentioned theshow the movie Wild Things
before Wild Things.
Ah, yes, yes, starring KevinBacon, mr Dillon and then Nev
Campbell, denise Richards steamystuff, ooh very.
This story is kind of weird inthat it's Kevin Bacon giving an

(11:00):
interview and he just randomlysays something that I think
should be taken slightly moreserious.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Oh really, What'd he say?

Speaker 3 (11:03):
So he was talking, he was doing a video testimony and
he was talking about the memoryof filming this movie.
He was speaking with Varietyand he says we were at the swamp
one night.
A lot of mosquitoes, wow, youknow, we were shooting some
scene.
I don't remember what it was,but it was kind of a river.
And then he just sort of saysthey had floated a raft out

(11:23):
there so that they could put upa light.
And then he says all of asudden I hear across the
walkie-talkie hey, I think wejust saw a floater, what?
But not like a poop, like aperson, like a body.
And then he says and it was abody that was floating by.
Then he just goes on to say itwas kind of indicative of the

(11:44):
vibe of the movie.
So no one knows who this guywas.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
He just casually said that it's weird how that kind
of just matched the vibe of themovie it was like oh wow, nice.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
It's a random body was floating by and there's no.
They just sent like a PA to goscoop it out.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
There was no investigation about it.
They didn't know who it was.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, no, no one cared.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
No one even cared.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
They're just like you're in the shot floating
bloated body.
Can you please get out of here?
And then the bloated body islike is this going to go on my?

Speaker 1 (12:14):
IMDB yeah, they're like only if you sign this NDA.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
So they say all of a sudden yes, the walkie talkie,
hey, we got ourselves a floater.
And then that's how the moviewas.
And then he goes on to reallyexplain the plot, which I
actually didn't realize.
So it co-starred Matt Dillon,and did you know this?
He was attempting to pull offan extortion scheme with high
schoolers played by NeveCampbell and Denise Richards.

(12:40):
Did you know they were in highschool?

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I did not know they were in high school.
I did not know they were inhigh school.
No, that's extremelyuncomfortable to know.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah, so they had to be like 16.
I don't like that at all.
They were not 16 in that scene,they were full grown women.
Oh my God.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
I don't like this anymore.
Wait what they were in highschool?
They can't take that from me.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
They can't take wild things from me like 90s, so they
say under the nose of Bacon'spolice detective character.
So Matt Dillon is trying topull off an extortion theme and
then in the third act it'srevealed that Dillon and Bacon
they were in cahoots together.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Oh no, cahoots for what?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
For the extortion theme of these two high
schoolers that they all had sexwith in a pool, even though now
that I realize it really theleverage is with Neve Campbell
and Denise Richards, becausethey can just be like, hey, you
fucked two underage chicks in apool, yeah pedophiles yeah, yeah
, totally.
I guess they weren't thinkingclearly.
So anyway, when it comes to thefloating body, they say we
called the police and theyactually grabbed the body and

(13:39):
kept it from getting into ourshot.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Oh well, thank God for that.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Just slapping it with a paddle we weren't even that
much out of our schedule withproduction.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
You're not getting any SAG credits for this pal.
Get out of here you body that'sfloating around a random river
that no one seems to give aflying fuck about.
It was never identified.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
No, oh my God, we gotta cover this on Death and
Entertainment too.
There's been multiple bodiesthat have been found on sets and
stuff.
They just very creepy.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Scoop them up, multiple bodies that are just
found on sets.
This would ruin my entire day.
Did this not ruin everyone'sentire day on set?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
It didn't even ruin the shoot.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
It was literally just like well, that's very
indicative of the shoot thatwe're doing right now.
Like what?

Speaker 2 (14:21):
There that we're doing right now, like what,
there was one guy in like the40s and 50s.
His name was Elmer McCurdy andhe was in a museum but he was an
actual dead body covered in waxand they didn't know there was
a real dead body under there.
He was in like the AndyGriffith show, like a million
movies and TV things, beforethey realized there was an
actual dead person inside it.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh my God, is that that thing that you just body?
Oh my God, that's so creepy.
I do love that house of wax.
Oh wow, it's so nuts.
They used to just drip wax overthe actual bodies of people.
Well then, maybe they wouldhave gotten Just him.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
They put him in like a museum and they didn't realize
it was an actual person afterthat I mean remember when they
did Beyonce, that was really bad.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Oh yeah, Sometimes the wax museums don't really do
it very well.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah, wow.
So anyway, kevin Bacon does saywhen it came to Wild Things,
when he first picked up thescript he thought, oh, this is
trash.
But then every few pages hekept on discovering what he says
seemed like another surprise.
So he's like it's really bad.
But he's like, oh, there's asurprise, it's really bad.
Oh, there's a surprise, sothat's why he did it.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
And then, in no way was it because he got to have
fake sex with Neve Campbell andDenise Richards, because it was
a surprise.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Wild Things did earn 30 million dollars in its
theatrical run.
That's not good.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Why not?

Speaker 3 (15:38):
How much did it cost to?

Speaker 2 (15:38):
make it probably cost like 10.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
I mean, the body clean up alone Is going to be a
couple thousand.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
But it shouldn't be that much.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
The budget was 20, so it made 10, it's like 10.
I mean the body cleanup aloneis going to be a couple thousand
.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, but it shouldn't be that much.
The budget was 20.
Okay, they made 10.
Yeah, so it made 10.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Well, I guess you usually do want to make double.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
There's literally one scene with them in the pool and
it becomes the cover of themovie.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, dvd sales probably went through the roof.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I really didn't realize they were supposed to be
in high school.
That does it plays into why Ialways felt like I was so young
looking in high school, becauseall the actors that played high
schoolers were 45.
Yeah, yeah, you know, speakingof old looking before we get to
our CIA tale, there was a fella.
His name is Ian Stanley Wagner.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Okay, ian Stanley Wagner.
Ian Stanley Wagner.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Now this is the Minnesota version of Luigi
Mangione.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
No, it's not.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Okay, he has a mustache and a beard and it
doesn't connect, but it's tryingand it's thinking about it.
He has a lot of acting on hisface.
Yes, he does.
Why is he related to LuigiMangione?
Because he was arrested at theUnited Healthcare Campus with a
gun.
Oh snap, but he didn't killanyone.
Also, if he did kill someone,again, luigi Mangione people.

(16:57):
This is going to be furtherevidence that people don't
really care about the cause.
They care about him becausehe's so handsome.
Yes, oh, definitely definitelyyeah because this guy's real
ugly right yeah, yeah, throwthis guy away and no one cares
about him.
No, even though technically hewas trying to send the same
message that luigi said, whichis our health care system is
broken well, he's not going toget.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
Is he gonna even get any charges or anything?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
oh yeah, oh yeah, why he?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
didn't shoot anyone.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
He threatened it.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Look at that head.
You charge that head.
It's all wrong, it's all big onthe top and then it kind of
goes down, but then it's stillsort of big on the bottom there
too.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
But none of it makes sense.
Big nose, bulbous.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, it's unfortunate.
So law enforcement, they tellus Ian Stanley Wagner.
He was busted Monday outside ofthe UnitedHealthcare HQ and
he's been booked for allegedlymaking threats of violence.
This all took place in a placecalled Minnetonka.
Yes, Minnetonkas.
Minnetonka Minnesota.
Minnetonka Minnesota.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
Minnetonkas and my mini sodas.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Yes, the FBI Minneapolis field office on
Monday morning had issued saythat he had issued threats of
violence directed at the UnitedHealthcare Facility if specific
demands were not met.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
He tried to make demands.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Well see, that's your problem right there.
We just knew he wasn't going toget anywhere with demands.

Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, I don't know if anyone.
Do you ever get the demand?

Speaker 1 (18:24):
No, has anyone ever won the demand?
Yeah, has anyone ever gotten it?

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Because I mean I'll do it.
If it worked, I'd do it.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
But I just feel like they kind of laugh at you and
they're like yeah, buddy, we'llgive you a million dollars in
unmarked bills.
And there's a helicopter on theroof Right.
And then they just beat thehell out of you pants you and do
something horrible to your butt.

Speaker 1 (18:43):
Show up at midnight.
Come with no one except thebriefcase you all lied to me.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, I was like wait , you were supposed to come
alone it's like when btk waslike hey, you guys can't trace a
floppy disk, can you?
No, totally not dude definitelynot find, torture, kill.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
He's still upset with the police for lying you guys
lied to me, they lied to him wow.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
So the feds say there is currently no indication that
the individual had specificgrievances against
UnitedHealthcare.
That's notable, of course,because Brian Thompson, who was
killed by Mangione.
Mangione has a personal feudwith them, so I'm not exactly
sure why he chose this.
The FBI.

(19:25):
They sent in a crisisnegotiator who talked to Wagner
over the phone, which that mustbe nice.
Why?
Because they're forced to speakwith you.
They're getting paid.
They want to understand whyyou're there, what you're doing.
They're really just a therapiston steroids, a crisis
negotiator.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Oh yeah, that's, so true, yeah it'd be comforting.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Yeah, Everything's going to be fine.
Just put the gun down.
Pull your pants back up.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Yeah, it's going to be all right.
Yeah, and it won't be,definitely not.

Speaker 3 (19:54):
Like it's going to be real bad for him.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Yeah, but you won't make it worse.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah.
So he says, he says I got a gun, and then he says I want $1
million.
No, he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
That's what he said.
He demanded $1 million.
Okay, Dr Evil, yes, which isreally do you get taxed on that
Do?
You get taxed on the case Onransom Actually today on
TurboTaxcom.
They were like did you collectany ransom over the last year?
And if you did, show us, take apicture of your ransom note?

(20:26):
You can actually press this QRcode, upload it right here.
Certified We'll tax that.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
It is tax season yeah .
It's a really stupid amount ofmoney.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
It is.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Like $1 million.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
It's like not even specific, like he doesn't know
what he would do with that $1million.
I don't even I mean inMinnetonka money you can get a
lot.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Our lives.
Money that's, you can get a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Our lives, our troubles are over man, you can
get custard donuts, yeah, pizzaschnozberries, yeah, other
minnesota treats.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
I don't know what exactly, but fatty foods.
Deep fried brats, yeah, a lotof cheese.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
No, that's wisconsin I know, but I've been to
minnetonka and they do have alot of deep fried cheese they.
They're just stealing your shit.
I know what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (21:09):
I know what they're doing.
So he's like I've got a gun,Give me a million dollars.
But everyone has a gun.
It's America, that's true.
And then he says I won't betaken alive.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
But he was.
But he was taken alive, wasn't?

Speaker 2 (21:23):
he, yeah, they let him take him alive.
You can't say that and let ithappen.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
You won't take me alive, like do not harm the
idiot, just take them alive, allright, maybe you will Fine.

Speaker 3 (21:34):
Can I get 10 bucks?
You weren't supposed to.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
They're very finicky people over there.
We got kicked out of a bar inMinnetonka for saying the F word
during an NFL Monday nightfootball game.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
What.
We don't talk that way here,pal.
Oh my God, what?
Yeah, oh my God, the only Fword we use is gay slurs.
Yeah, come on.
Yeah, I was out there on tour acouple years back and this dude
I was with smoked a joint in aroom and they kicked him out.
So yeah, they're very, they'repeople, they're strange.
Yeah, that's why I will take myWisconsin people, because

(22:10):
they're not as uptight asMinnesota people, because
Minnesota people think they're areal state.
You know, wisconsin's like noone cares, yeah, we don't even
care Right, they're just veryhumble.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah, we're just here for the cheese In Minnesota.
If you go to Minneapolis,they'll be like it's New York,
los Angeles, and then it's aboutthe Twin.

Speaker 3 (22:31):
Cities and it's like no one.
No one thinks St Louis isbigger.
So the cops say they recovereda firearm from his car.
The incident did result in amassive police response to the
UnitedHealthcare headquarters.
So anyway, he's just going tobe a nothing.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, what an idiot that sucks he's gonna be in jail
for the same amount of time fordoing nothing for doing nothing
, yeah yeah, well, it's becausehe lied, he was taken alive.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, yeah, you gotta first mistake.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Come on now.
He's gonna get three hots inthe car for the rest of his life
?

Speaker 1 (23:03):
did he even write anything on his bullets?

Speaker 3 (23:06):
no yeah exactly what the hell.
I don't think he was veryserious about it.
Doesn't seem like he was.
He kind of looks like Pennywisea little bit with that big
fucking weird head.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
Oh yeah, I guess the shape of his head.
Yeah, yeah yeah, he does looklike a light bulb.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Real greasy hair.
Like a cartoon that swallowed alight bulb, and then his head
just turns into that shape.
Cool, yeah, you need a banana,giant banana.
Well, speaking of weird heads,this is a bit of a science story
it is it's a bit of a medicalstory.

(23:42):
Oh no, astronomy, astrology ohright, yes so a decapitated
woman's head has been reattached.
It's not quite as fun as youmight think.
What it's not quite as fun.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Like what is like.
The guillotine went all the waythrough like, but just right
before that, like the last, likeinch, they were like no, no, no
wait, we got the wrong person.
We can sew this thing back up.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
We can sew it back up .
Sew it back up.
Yeah, no.
So what happened?
Was her skull separated fromher spine?

Speaker 1 (24:14):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (24:16):
They say it was a freak accident.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Oh no.
What was the accident?

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Something where that happened right Gym class it was.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Gym class.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yeah, gym class.
Yeah, she was playing a soccergame in gym class.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
That's true.
This is why I neverparticipated in PE.
I didn't run the mile, I didn'tdo anything.
I was like come on, coach, youknow I'm not going to run this.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
I don't know how the hell she did this.
I don't know how you break.
I don't know how you separate.
Anyway, I'm not blaming her.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
So, yeah, she was playing a soccer game in gym
class when she fell leaping fora ball, so it injured her right
ankle and spine and it tore themuscles off both of her shoulder
blades.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Oh, my God Jesus Christ.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
So that is a day.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
She needs milk.
Jesus Christ, yeah, like whatvitamins they just all just got
clean off sliced from a fall.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Drinking soda all day .

Speaker 3 (25:11):
Leaping for a ball.
If you're the gym teacher,you're like what the hell?
Yeah, like we're playing soccer.
How did she have her muscle offof both of her shoulder blades
ripped off?
Ouch, it's unique.
That happened when she was 16years old.
She's now 35.
Holy shit, oh wow, thathappened when she was 16 years
old.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
She's now 35.
Holy shit, oh wow, so that wasa while ago, she had 22
surgeries, oh my God.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
However, her condition got worse and worse
and worse.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Oh no.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
She had a genetic kinetic tissue disorder that
disrupts the body's productionof collagen, leading to a joint
instability.
Okay, that makes sense now,Right?
So a year after the diagnosis,King's neck just became
dislocated it just fell off.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
It just fell off the bone like a nice rip, but there
was still skin but there's skinaround it.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
So like one day she was just like whoa, yeah Head
just like rolled off, but it'sstill like hanging there.
I swear to God I'd lose.
She tries to like put it on,but it's still hanging there.
I swear to God I'd lose.
She tries to put it on, butit's still just falling over.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
I'd lose my head if it wasn't attached.
Well, we have bad news.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
It's currently not, it's kind of not attached right
now, did you guys feel that oh?

Speaker 3 (26:22):
my God, that's terrible.
To make this matter worse again, just a 16-year-old gym class,
A 16-year-old in gym class.
You never know what days aregoing to bring.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Yeah, seriously, I mean, as a gym teacher you got
to ask does anyone have anytissue connectivity problems in
their bodies before you startplaying this sport?

Speaker 3 (26:41):
I don't think she knew.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
So because her neck fell off of her body.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Her head.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yes, Her head.
Yes, her head fell off of herbody.
She was forced to wear arestricted halo brace, so she
had to sit there with this halobrace for like years and years,
and years, oh man, and therewere screws directly into her
skull to keep her from moving.
This is a fucking nightmare.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Yeah, this is a nightmare, this is an absolute
nightmare.
How is she?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
What is she doing?
Looks like a trap from Saw.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
It really does, and I would much rather see that
little tiny wheelchair clown,creepy man.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
I would just end me.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Want to play a game.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
No, that's how I got into this fucking mess oh that's
right.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Want to play a game?
Just signs you up for PE soccer.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
That kicks a soccer ball at you.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
How could this possibly go wrong?
You'll see.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
You'll see.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Take a kick.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Oh man, no, but that's really fucked up and sad.
She's just living there withthis head brace on.
She's not allowed to move.

Speaker 3 (27:46):
Can't look any direction on.
She's not allowed to move,can't look any direction, there
go your peripherals.
Well, good luck if they try toplay dodgeball, god forbid.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
she has whiplash for any reason.

Speaker 3 (27:53):
Keep your head on a swivel.
So they removed this halo fromher right, okay, and when they
detached it, her skull detachedfrom her spine, good lord.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
Oh, my god, yes.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
It's called an internal decapitation.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
Yes, it's called an internal decapitation.
Wow, internal decapitation thatkind of sounds like if the HR
team of your company decides todecapitate someone.
Internal decapitation On thelow we're going to handle this
internally.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (28:23):
I do love that.
Send them to the second floor.
Oh my God, they never come backfrom the second floor, they
never come back to the secondfloor.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh my God, they never come back from the second floor
.
They never come back from thesecond floor.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
This is what she says .
She says I flew my chair backto keep gravity from
decapitating me.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
My neurosurgeon had to hold my skull in place with
his hands.
I couldn't stand.
My right side was shakinguncontrollably, oh my God.
She was then rushed to anemergency surgery where doctors
fused her skull to her spine.
You can see here what thatsurgery looked like.

(28:59):
They had to shave the back ofher head, oh my God.
And then there's a massive,massive scar.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
It's so freaky, oh my God, I mean, she's such a
badass for going through all ofthis.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
She is.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
What a badass fucking scar.
I mean, that is just gnarly.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
She says it was a horror show.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Yeah, it sounds like one.

Speaker 3 (29:18):
I woke up unable to move my head at all.
She managed to survive theharrowing decapitation, which
evidently carries a 90% fatalityrate, but I actually thought it
would be higher.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
I thought it would be way higher.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Like 9 out of 10 people that lose their head die.
But it's like, didn't it?

Speaker 1 (29:36):
be 10 out of 10?
.
Yeah, you got your headdecapitated.
I wasn't decapitated by sight,it technically just kind of fell
off on its own, like what.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Our pet's heads are falling off.
Yeah, it's like the bird fromDumb and Dumber.
So it has a 90% fatality ratedue to the likelihood that nerve
signals will become damagedbetween the brain and the body.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
Well, yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Right, right, and then that would lead to
paralysis around vital organslike the lungs and the heart,
which are, like all, importantand stuff.
Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, so thenshe had to have 37 more
surgeries, leaving her bodyfused from her skull to her
pelvis and her head, unable tomove in any direction.
What a Okay, she says.

(30:24):
I am literally a human statue.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Oh my God, and we've talked about this as it's a
witch's curse.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
Oh, I want to a human statue.
Oh my God and we've talkedabout this as it's a witch's
curse oh, I want to beworshipped by all.
She turns him into a statue.
I'm literally a human statue.
My spine doesn't move at all,but that doesn't mean I've
stopped living.
So she's like very motivational.
But also this poor woman.
I just want to cry.

(30:51):
They say internal decapitationsare three times more likely in
children with traumaticaccidents because their bones
are not fully developed.
But in her case her fall in acombination with HEDS was enough
to have the head injury thatled to what she has here.
I'm not exactly sure whath-e-d-s is, although it does
spell heads, heads.

(31:12):
So she got will roll.
Yeah, kyle, what is it?

Speaker 2 (31:17):
hypermobile ehlers-danlos syndrome.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Uh, yeah, yeah, that's not fun that doesn't
sound like a good syndrome tohave generalized joint
hypermobility.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
So if it was like a little less severe, she could
sound like a good syndrome tohave Generalized joint
hypermobility.
So if it was like a little lesssevere, she could be like a
contortionist and be verysuccessful.
Oh, but now she just willfucking fall apart.

Speaker 3 (31:35):
She could have worked for David Copperfield and got
finger popped against her will.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's like a human made out of Legos.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
So apparently it really is Internal decapitations
.
They're pretty rare.
It accounts for less than 1% ofall cervical injuries, so
that's good.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Yeah, I can imagine it doesn't sound very common.
I've never heard of this.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
And now again they have fused her head back and she
is a living miracle, Wow.

Speaker 1 (32:04):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Her body is returning to normal hobbies she had
before the life-altering injury.
She just recently went bowlinglike our friend Vanessa.
What?
Who the hell let?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
her go bowling.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I don't know why she's around any balls.
If I was her mom.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
I'd be like, are you fucking kidding me?
We just reattached your headand now you're going bowling.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Maybe she just pushed it down like the kid little
ramp thing.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 (32:30):
No, she says she bowled a strike.
Whoa, she bowled a strike.
Wow, I thought she couldn'tmove.
No, because now they'vereattached it.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
So now she's starting to move.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
Now she can move, now she can move and hold bowling
balls.
This is a happy picture of her.
Oh my.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
God, she, oh, my God, she's standing.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
She's standing, yep, and she can really do it now.
And yeah, she went bowling.
She says I bowled a strike onmy very first try.
Wow, my friends screamed andclapped and cheered like wild.
They weren't just celebratingthe strike which they, yeah,
like no one really cares aboutthe strike.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
No one cares about the strike.
Everyone was like is her headstill on Right.
Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
Yeah, they were celebrating everything I've
survived.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Dude, I can't, I couldn't imagine Everything she
would do would scare the crapout of me.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, just lifting anything over 10 pounds.
No, no, no, no, no, I got this.
I got this Please.
She said They'd be like don'tlook behind you, but there's
someone that we know.
No, don't actually look behindyou.
Please Don't turn around.
I'll make them come around toyou.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Yes, just relax, Just relax.
There's so many programs outWatch the penguin Relax, oh my
God.
But she says I'm still learningwhat my new body can do.
It's not easy, but I'm adaptingand I'm always surprised by
what I can still accomplish.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
I mean, yeah, that is very.
She's incredibly resilient forthat.

Speaker 3 (33:56):
Yep Meghan King.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Stronger than most of us.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Yep, hell, yeah, yeah , oh my God, I would be so done.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
I would yeah Like take me out.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
So it's the miracles of modern science.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
That's insane.
They 3D printed her a new spine.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Pano said her head and spine did a 7-10 split.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
It really did.
It was a bowling reference.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
It really did.
Anyway, I almost want to makeher butt of the week.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Almost you can't even get decapitated to be butted in
this movie.
What do you have?

Speaker 2 (34:31):
to do?
You gotta be inanimate.

Speaker 1 (34:33):
You gotta be a bus stop.
Well, if I see one.
Well, the bus stop wasn'tdecapitated.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
What about?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Paddington Was Paddington ever the butt of the
week?

Speaker 3 (34:42):
No, no, no, he was stolen and put back together
again.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
He was stolen and put back together again.
He was, he was sawed in halfand technically reattached.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Much like that woman who was stopped yeah.
All right, let's move on to aninteresting story tale.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, that is true.
Yeah, well, I mean, that wasinteresting.
Is it more interesting thanthat?
Ish, ish.
The CIA Okay, we're learning alot about their shadowy
businesses.
Yeah, I've never personallyknown what they've been up to.

Speaker 3 (35:11):
They're horrible.
My friend's family works in theCIA, but they're always how do
you know that?

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Aren't you not allowed to know that?

Speaker 3 (35:17):
You can know that, but you can't know anything,
right.
All I know is one's in Bahrain.
Oh, and they're just doing-.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
So they're like whenever there's a war, they
just kind of go first and laythe war groundwork.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
I don't know.
They sweep out the streets, getit ready.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, it's like well, this is just right.
It's like fixture upper.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
They're like look at that beautiful shiplap right
there, That'll look goodexploded.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
So the CIA.
Many of their secrets have beencoming out.
It's decades later thatAmerican citizens are finally
learning about Russian alienencounters and mind control
experiments.
However, not everything they dois so cool and James Bond-y.
Sometimes they just want tomake fun of communists for

(36:05):
having small penises.
Wait what this is true.
These are Cold War condoms.
In the 1950s, the CIA co-fundedan operation to drop millions
and millions of anti-communistpropaganda on the ground right,
and that was going to be inSoviet-controlled Europe.
And the CIA took things alittle bit further.

(36:27):
Within these anti-communistpamphlets they had a bunch of
condoms and the CIA, so theywould label the condoms small or
medium and then they would dropthem on communist nations.
The strategy what?
Yeah, because they wanteveryone to think they have all
small dicks.
That's okay, this is a lot ofmoney.

(36:48):
This is the top knowledge.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Why are they using?

Speaker 2 (36:51):
medium at best.
Yes, that's incredible.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
It's very interesting .
So they drew up plans to alsohave packets of extra large
condoms labeled small or mediumand those were dropped to the
communist country.
So basically they sent out themagnums right and then they were
like these condoms are prettytiny, and then people would put
the condoms on and be like thiscondom's pretty big and then

(37:17):
they would think those Americandicks must be real long.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
This is it.
Wow, this is what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (37:24):
This was in the 1950s .
This is the peak of the RedScare.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
That's a good psy-op right there, isn't that?

Speaker 3 (37:29):
amazing.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Just a bunch of morons just being like 25 years
old in the CIA and be like, yeah, you know, it'd be funny.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
The strategy was.
It worked.
It lowered the morale of themale citizens of Western of
Eastern Europe and it made themlook like their well-endowed
Western counterparts were justreally fucking hung.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
So they all said small, but then you could fit
your arm into it.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
Isn't that amazing.
That's awesome, that'shilarious.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Yeah, apparently they never really did the plan, but
this was a big plan that theyhad.
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Hook line and sinker.
They fell for it.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Billions and billions of dollars, right.
What if we make them think thattheir dicks are all small and
our dicks are all big?

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Mind control.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
I never thought about that.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
That's mind control, baby Like what.

Speaker 3 (38:20):
We're all so stupid, but it would work.
It would work.

Speaker 2 (38:23):
It would work.
Definitely would yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
If I bought a Magnum condom.
But it was like oh, it sayssmall condom, and then I put it
on and I'd be like whoa, it'snot supposed to be that.
No, I'd be all sad.
I was like well, they messedthe packaging up wrong yeah,
like I'm a grower, not a shower,and then I'll be like I'm not
even a grower.
Sad they also had a plotagainst osama bin Laden.
Remember him?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Did they kill him or not kill him?
That's the question.
I don't know.
Did they?
Well, I know the guy O'Neill.
What's his name?
Paul O'Neill, not Paul O'Neill,that's the name of another dude
.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Of course they killed him.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Well, they dumped him in the middle of the ocean.
There's some speculation hemight be alive.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
Robert O'Neill.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Robert O'Neill.
He's the guy who says I killedBin Laden.
I met him many, many times, butthe thing is he's probably a
psyop, because you're notsupposed to actually say that.
If you did do it, I'm surprisedyou're letting him say it.
Well, he's the one that can sayit.
He was on the SEAL Team 6.
That is true.
Obviously all of his booksvetted and they're probably full

(39:30):
of misinformation, outrightlies, because then he does have
some counterparts that were withhim being like I don't think
you did kill him, but folks kindof let him have it.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Oh boy, yes.
And then every time I would seehim at Fox News, people would
be like thanks for killing Osamabin Laden, and he'd be like no
problem.
So he's been using it to getlaid for a long time.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
Yeah, I bet so, yeah, yeah, I bet, so yeah, yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
But did he actually do it?
Probably not, because, to yourpoint, kyle, they don't want you
to actually know what happened.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:51):
Yeah, so the CIA once hatched a plan to make Osama
bin Laden figurines with a facethat peeled off in the sun to
reveal the devil.
Whoa, this is about a toy, it'sa demon toy.
This is true what the aim wasto distribute demonic toys to
children in the Middle East.

(40:12):
Wow, oh jeez.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
Yeah, that's not even cool man, that's not even nice.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
No, it's not nice.
Why are you doing that?
I don't know.
So they say we're going todistribute demonic toys to
children in the Middle East andcounter Al-Qaeda's leadership.
According to Donald Levine, thecreator of GI Joe, they were
commissioned to design threeprototypes in 2005.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
As part of the spy agency's plan to find out what
happened during 9-11 and bringOsama bin Laden back.
Wow.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
So what these toys have like little voodoo things
attached to them.
They have little recorders sothat kids can talk into them.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
This is what it's all about.
That's the irony of all of thisstuff, where, yes, it is very
high tech in many ways.
In other ways they're like whatif we make a really scary toy
for kids and then they're alllike he's nuts, he's scary, he's
the devil, yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Yeah, I mean this is, this is the peak of adulthood,
right here.
It really is having having thatjob title with all of those
confusing words that you don'tknow what it really means.
But then at the end of the day,you're just getting coffee for
someone like tree surgeon.
Like yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:24):
But this reminds me of those really cool He-Man
dolls, remember, you could pushthe one guy's stomach and then
he would turn all like creepyfaces.
I think this would make himlook kind of cool.
What so, apparently?
What's the name of that one?

Speaker 2 (41:39):
I'm trying to find Mondo he was really cool, mondo.

Speaker 3 (41:42):
So what would happen is the face of the prototype
would peel off in the sun.
The face of the prototype wouldpeel off in the sun and then
that would reveal a demon-likevisage with red skin, green eyes
and black markings.
Evidently it looked just likeDarth Maul.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Whoa, I see that.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yes, what's the name of the toy?
Man-y faces, oh.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
I love it I love it.

Speaker 3 (42:04):
Whoa 80s, you did it again.

Speaker 1 (42:07):
Many faces.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
The action idea was proposed.
However, it was later rejected,but it did get past the
prototype stage, According to aCIA spokesperson.
They say to our knowledge,there are only three individual
action figures ever created, andthese were merely to show what
a final product might look like.
So that was one of their ideas.
I kind of want that doll.
Well, if you take a look, here.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
that's what it would look like, so that was one of
their ideas.
I kind of want that doll.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Well, if you take a look here, that's what it would
look like.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (42:32):
Yes, very, very creepy, and it does look very
Darth Molly, very, very DarthMolly.
Oh, my God, right there.
Oh yes, holy shit.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
That is really creepy , jesus.
I think it looks cool.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
Yeah, it looks pretty cool, it looks a little, a
little tribal too.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Yeah, but I mean, if I was, if I was gonna play with
that as a toy, I would be likethis is freaking awesome Before
I just had this Stupid lookingguy.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Yeah, and now I've got this demon.
Now it like Looks like he tookup wrestling.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Yeah, it's all cool, looks like Kane.
It does look like Kane.
That's who I thought of.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yes, the boogeyman.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
The real boogeyman so that's not all the CIA has done
.
It's not just big old Magnumcondoms marked as small and toys
.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
Oh, that's good.
This is what they mean whenthere are these folders that are
like classified this is it?
This is what it is they're like.
No, no, no, don't look at that.
That's classified informationClassified.
It's just pictures of toys.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
I used to do a show called Red Eye all the time with
this gal, kt McFarland.
She was former CIA and it'sfunny I was playing the Black
Ops game and her character it'sdefinitely her in that movie and
anyway, it's just this stupid.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
But it's so stupid and it's so pervasive that it
just becomes reality.
You know, like with the beepersituation, with what happened
with Israelis going againstparts there in Palestine,
Palestinians right, when theysold them the beepers, and then
they all exploded and stuff likethat.
It was like this whole like two, three year long process where
they had to create a fakecompany.
Wow.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
They're like Hamas is going to love these beepers,
they really beep.
That's insane.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
So, anyway, they also were known for blackmailing
world leaders with fake sextapes.
From 1945 until 1970, the CIAran a covert operation targeting
foreign leaders.
Among the targets, fidel Castro.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Okay, so in these years, the CIA was filled with a
bunch of high schoolers, yes,spreading rumors, bullying other
countries, dropping off condoms, being like ha ha, you got a
small dick.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
It's jerk.
It's just boys being boys.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
Literally Getting their head.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, but this one sounds a little more girlish.
It's like you know, if you dothis, we're going to tell
everyone that you fucked thisperson, and we have footage.
We have footage and it's likewe don't really, but just tell
them that we do.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
The Congo's Patrice Lombamba, dominican dictator
Rafael Trujillo and PresidentNgo Dinh Diem of South Vietnam.
There were also some lethalviruses.
They had explosive cigars andother spy thriller type tactics
were used, oh my God.
But mostly what they would liketo do is make it look like they

(45:15):
are having a lot of crazy sex.
So the CIA producedpornographic film.
The name of this pornographicfilm was quote Happy Days that's
what it is and it wasreportedly showing President
Ahmed Sukarno of India havingsex.
It showed him in ecstaticsexual congress with a woman,

(45:41):
although the person involved wasactually an American performer
in a mask.
Oh, it was an imposter.
It was an imposter.
No word on what size condom hewas mask.
Oh, it was an imposter.
It was an imposter.
No word on what size condom hewas wearing.
Oh, so the CIA's plan was tocirculate the film, pretending
that it had been secretly madeby the KGB in the course of a

(46:02):
visit by Sukarno to the SovietUnion.
So he went to the Soviet Union,they made this fucking thing,
and then they were like well,this is going to make him be all
mad with the Russians becausehe's going to think that they
filmed him having sex with awoman.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, Could have been worse.

Speaker 3 (46:17):
Could have been a guy it could have been.
Back then they really did makeit quite respectful, yeah, but
back then not everyone wasshowing their balls and their
you know cocks and everything oncamera.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Yeah, that was outrageous enough.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yes, People had.
I think it was shame.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, but you know who cares, I remember shame,
fuck it.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Who cares yeah?

Speaker 1 (46:38):
Honestly, this is all just confirming that the
cartoon Archer is probably takenfrom totally real events.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
From what the CIA actually is up to.
It's just a bunch of morons.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
Well, and just to go further with how really just man
run the world, the planbackfired.
And why did it backfire?
Because Sukarno was impressedwith the film.
Yeah, he's like, oh, that wascool.
So he was impressed with how hewas depicted in the film.

(47:08):
Because it showed him quoteleaving his Russian partner
aglow with fulfillment.
Yeah, so they made him.
So that's the problem with thetape.
They made him like a greatlover.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
They made him complete the mission.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
Yeah, so it really.
He was probably showing it toall his other country folks.
Be like, look how good yourpresident fucks.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Hell yeah, that's how I get down Right.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Who said this?
This isn't me, oh wait, oh wait.
Well, shit, maybe it is me.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Where it is.
She's still coming to this day.
We had to reattach her head.
There was another program thathad remote-controlled dogs.
In 1963, they tried to do amind-control experiment on dogs,
which is just called a dog.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
Pretending to throw the ball, yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Dogs are the most loyal things ever.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
You can pretty much train a dog to do things.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
But this is disgusting.
They would implant devices intosix canine skulls and use a
remote control to guide themthrough an open field.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Oh my God, that's fucked up.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
Really nuts.
So they could be made to run,turn and stop, as scientists
would zap them.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
You can literally do that without zapping them.
They don't, they don't.
There's no need to implantanything in them.
Give them a treat, implant thetreat from your hand to its
mouth.
It's going to do all of thosethings.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Give them a treat.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:38):
The specific aim of the program was to examine the
feasibility of controlling thebehavior of a dog in an open
field.
It's so easy.
It's so easy, guys, we're sostupid, it's so dumb.
Oh, we're so stupid.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Oh my God, Back then we thought like the dog was like
this, like complex fuckingcreature, right.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Is that what it is?
I don't know what they werethinking.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Or is it like they didn't quite figure out how to
train the dog yet?

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Yeah, just again, treats are the way to go.
Yeah, that's all the dogs need.
They don't need to be remotecontrolled, no.
And then of course, you havethings like MK Ultra Mind
Control, which we all know about, project Stargate, which we
could probably do a wholeepisode on that.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
All of the acid that they gave to everyone.

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Yeah, in the 1970s for ProjectStargate, the CIA was trying to
test this psychic, uri Geller.
He was famed for bending spoons, but then I think they just
realized he was full of shit.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Oh, that's.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Yeah, but that's how people were back then.
They're like we better get himin here and it's like I'm Johnny
Carson, that's a character Iplay.
Yeah, the great Houdini, orwhoever the hell.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Yeah.
Then the great Randini put outa million dollar bounty, saying
anyone that can actually provethat they're a medium or a
psychic or can bend stuff withtheir mind, he'll give them the
million dollars.
They never were able to findanyone who really had it.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Yeah Well, according to the CIA, the conclusion is
that Yuri quote demonstrated hisparanormal perceptual ability
in a convincing and unambiguousmanner, so maybe he could have
been used for good old CIApsyops.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Why was he?
What was it with the bendingspoons thing?

Speaker 3 (50:23):
Everyone wants to bend a spoon.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
Why do you want to bend a spoon?
What about a spatula?
What about like a larger?
Like a soup spoon, like thelarge?
Bend a spoon.
I don't know.
What about a spatula?
What about like a larger, likea soup spoon Like the large one.
They're always just like onetiny spoon.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:33):
What about a can?
Can you crush a can?

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Such a trash trick.
Yeah, bend a shovel.
Wow, you really bent that spoon.
Bend a shovel yeah.
Hey, honey you just fuckingruined a good spoon yeah, I
could have my spoon back asshole.
And then, of course, there'sOperation Paperclip, where we
just took a bunch of Nazis andwe're like you're with us now
and you're fine.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yeah, you want to build a bomb.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Anyway, we all know those stories.
I thought that the doll and thecondoms now that is the kind of
creativity that I want in myUnited States.
Psyops in my spy programs, allright.
Well, we have a bunch of otherarticles, but we'll get through
those later on this week.
Let's go to our comments.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Oh boy, let's see, we got Pano saying CIA propaganda.
Prototype developer is now mydream job.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
Oh, it's the best, it's literally the best.
Just be a moron, and then theythink you're smart, and then
boom.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Yeah, jeff was saying .
Some of their dust-off guyswere stationed in Abbottabad,
where Bin Laden got his headblown off.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
Fantastic Good.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
He said most of the people in the CIA are actually
boring and do accounting andother boring jobs.
True, yes, but the field agentbase in Afghanistan was Kush.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Oh sweet, let's see we had an inside guy.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
His tourniquet says I feel like everyone who says
they work in the CIA is lying.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
That's the point yeah .

Speaker 1 (52:05):
I'm supposed to know.

Speaker 3 (52:07):
Technically, I'm a diplomat.
Maybe I work in the CIA.
Oh yeah, All right, everyone onthat cliffhanger.
Yeah, mm-hmm, let us know whatyou think Again.
Okbudpod at gmailcom.
Let's get healthy these nextcouple of weeks.
Yes, and I'm going to drop somepounds and maybe try to fit
into jeans I haven't worn in awhile and keep your head on

(52:29):
straight.
Keep your fucking head on.
Maybe no soccer?
Yeah, it's just going to happen.
No matter what, don't leap forballs.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
You see, this is why everyone gets all hyped up about
sports.
Have I ever leaped for a ball?

Speaker 3 (52:40):
No, you know where my head is Attached.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
Okay, everyone.
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