April 22, 2025 • 49 mins
Deadmau5 gave Coachella attendees more than they bargained for when the Canadian DJ delivered a performance that quickly went viral—not for his signature electronic beats, but for repeatedly falling over his equipment while visibly intoxicated. The 44-year-old producer (real name Joel Thomas Zimmerman) later took to social media with refreshing candor, joking that while he remembered nothing of the night, at least he "didn't have a cig," calling it a personal victory amid the chaos.
Meanwhile, Tiger King's Joe Exotic has found love in the most unexpected place—prison. The incarcerated zookeeper tied the knot with Jorge Flores Maldonado, a fellow inmate serving time for immigration issues. Complete with tuxedos and matching white boutonnieres, the ceremony marks a new chapter for Exotic, who proudly shared photos of their union online. Maldonado has already stated he's willing to follow his new husband to Mexico if they're both released, adding another twist to Exotic's already colorful life story.
The digital era continues creating disturbing new challenges as teenagers employ AI "nudify" apps to generate fake nude images of classmates. These applications, which received over 200 million visits in just six months, create realistic-looking nudes from simple headshots, causing psychological harm to victims. We also explore the strange case of a Polish woman claiming to be Madeline McCann who's now facing stalking charges for harassing the missing girl's family. Between paranormal investigators passing to the other side and disturbing true crime cases, this episode examines how technology and human behavior continue to intersect in unexpected—and sometimes troubling—ways.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo, deadmau5.
Hey, what's up everyone?
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(00:42):
Yes, it was I got two likes byCarrot Top.
Yes, it was.
I got two likes by Carrot Topyesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Why did Carrot Top like our episode?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Because, he's nice.
Does that make us his carrotbottom?
Speaker 1 (00:50):
I would be a bottom for Carrot Top any damn day.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And I would allow it.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Thank you, you would allow me to get plowed by Carrot
.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Top yes.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
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Wait, what are we doing?
Am I dead mouse?
Because we're about to talkabout it?
Scribble, scrabble, scribble,scrabble, holding all over the
turntables.
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
We just got some nice dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We did get a lot of nice dogs.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And that's not a euphemism for anything.
They're actual dogs.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
No, they're actual doggos.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yes, well, speaking of Deadmau5 and Coachella, what
a fun night he had.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
He had such a good night he doesn't remember it.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And I love that for him.
For those that don't know, areyou under a rock?
Have you been under a rock?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, Deadmau5 has been pretty big for a long time.
He's a Canadian DJ, yeah,because when I think DJ, he
makes awesome house music.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
He does.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Is there such thing?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, oh my God, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
All right, limp Bizkit Jr.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That is a good point.
Kyle did say that Corey Feldmanimpressed him.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It was very impressive.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, yeah, kyle, but then Jerry's pushback also does
reign, true.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And, honestly, deadmau5 impressed me at
Coachella.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh, deadmau5,.
Canadian DJ.
Real name Joel Thomas Zimmerman.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Joel JT Zimmerman.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
JT Zimmerman the names are never as good as the
stage names.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Justin Timberlake Zimmerman.
What about him?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yep, he went with Deadmau5 there and he got all
drunk right and he was having alot of fun.
And let's just listen to alittle bit of his clip, because
this is what you go to Coachellafor.
Yeah, you go for the disaster,you go for the calamity.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, everyone was like we paid hundreds of dollars
to see an elite performancefrom Deadmau5.
And instead we got Dude thosepretty drunk on stage.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You got what you deserved.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Honestly.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Every one of them.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's a festival.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
He has to have fun.
Yeah, all right, let's playDeadmau5.
First fall.
So he just kind of falls offthe stage there a bunch.
Just a little stumbly stump,and then he continues to fall
off the stage.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, this one, he just kind of folds over the
turntables.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And his hands are still twisting the knobs.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, and then he just stays like that, yeah
completely face first down.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
He's in a K-hole.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That is how talented he is, though the music is still
sounding okay.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The music is still awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It's still flowing through him, I love that Do we
have any of him talking?
Yeah, it's about to come up.
He falls over Right now.
He's on the ground, but he'sabout to grab a mic Because
they're like, cut the music.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Don't want to cut that music.
Never cut the music fromLegends, legends he sounds
(04:13):
canadian all right dead mouse.
Thank you, dead mouse get himoff.
I said I want on Keep him onthe stage.
This is what you pay for.
This Coachella has been a totalclusterfuck.
I mean, I know very, verylittle about any of it, but I
feel like this would be thething that you want to go see.
(04:36):
You want to see everyone kindof fall apart, get super fucked
up, because what is it?
Is it day like 19?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
How long has this been going on for?
It's been going.
It goes on for like for like,every every summer solstice
weekend that there is in thesummer.
I don't know what that means,but it happens a lot, it feels
like.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
He's just been fucked up for like 15 straight days.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And it's also yeah, and it's also like he's not the
only person in this like it's agoddamn festival.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's a festival.
He's hanging out with all therock stars backstage getting
hammered.
That's the show.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's the show.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I wouldn't want to.
Who cares what happens on thestage?
Yeah, I actually wouldn't care.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I want to see crowd one second, I mean I'm not a
festival person in general atall, just because I can't stand
the I've already.
I'm walking like three milesfrom stage to stage, drunken 21
year olds just running aroundkicking dirt around each other
because it's cute and fun forthem, and then porta potties, oh
, porta potty.
Everything is a very long line.
(05:40):
I can't I can't.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
no, I want to see every one of the outfits that
they post being like look, lookat this chick and how cute she
is.
I want to see her when she hasto dump and I want to see what
she has to unstrap in order toget into that nasty ass porta
potty.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
She needs like two girlfriends to help unzip some
random shit, untie some bows.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's worse than your wedding night, because at the
end you just get VD, you don'tget married yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Although I will say they are pretty protected with
their like giant platform boots,because they're like three feet
off the ground with boots sothey're not really touching any
of like the gross stuff on thefloor oh, that's good.
So that always makes me feelbetter.
That is a very I do really likethe rave outfits.
They're so cute.
Oh they're cute.
I would just want to wear themto, like you know, a dive bar on
a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Absolutely so.
The EDM producer.
He's 44.
He says I don't rememberanything, but he does say this
but I don't think I had a cig,so that's good, I guess that's
hilarious.
So he did not have a cigarette.
So Deadmau5, you won you winthe night.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He was pretty, he was a successful junk person,
without being like, hey, who'sgot a cigarette?
He, he was like who's got thebeat?
Oh, wait me.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
That's right.
That's my job.
That's right.
Isn't that impressive.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It is pretty impressive.
You know some people when theyrun around drunk they're like I
want a cigarette, yes, and maybethis was something he was
trying really hard to let go of.
And he's like oh, I'm worriedabout getting drunk because I'm
just going to want a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And I told myself, I'd quit.
And I like him because he'sfunny.
He says, quote going back tobed wake me up around
Thursday-ish.
He's like I'm sleeping forthree days.
Fuck you, I'm dead mouse.
I'm literally dead.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, no literally, I'm a mouse that's dead.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So hopefully everyone's having fun.
He said that's probably hislast Coachella set, but bring
him back.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Who gives a shit?
What are you talking?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
about For why?
Yeah, he says, probably my lastCoachella show.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, I mean, that's funny.
He has a nice sense of humorabout it.
Yeah, who cares?
Coachella's going to be like.
Oh my God, you're not even theworst fucking artist to have
fallen over the stage this year,you're fine.
Yeah, he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You know what?
All of those TikToks?
Not one cigarette.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Unbelievable.
I'm so fucking proud of him.
Good job, Dan.
It's about the little victories.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Didn't break a leg, didn't break an arm.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Honestly as much as he fell over, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So he was drinking a lot of whiskey, which is
although when I think of EDMmusic, I don't think of whiskey
as the booze that goes with it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, no, I would think more like vodka jello
shots.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, he says dude, that whiskey, I can't lol.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I can't, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
He is so funny.
He says, man, even my cat isdisappointed in me, and he shows
a picture of his cat.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's a picture of his cat, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
He says man, even my cat is disappointed in me,
though it could be argued thatshe's always been, which is true
.
He says sorry about last night,lol.
To be fair, I felt the firstthree-fourths was great.
Fair, I felt the firstthree-fourths was great.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Out of the entire four and a half hours set, I
think of the first solid 15minutes.
They happened.
I remember those and it wasgoing pretty well, from what I
remember.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yep, he says huge shout out to Zoo for introducing
me to whiskey and carrying mydumb ass till the bitter end.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Not introducing me to whiskey.
44-year-old DJ techno player,this is the first time you've
ever gotten drunk.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I love him.
He says let me quit smoking, dosome fucking personal resetting
here at home, find my spiritanimal, work on some new music
and come back better.
Yes, I want to hear some newmusic and come back better.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yes, I want to hear this new music too.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh my God, I love him .
He also said he was coming downwith a little bug.
He's like I might have a littlebug.
Yeah, it's just a hangover.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's called being hung the fuck over.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's the Irish flu, bro.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
You're going to have this bug for a little while, wow
.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
He is really.
He's like I'm going to quit thecigarette starting today.
I haven't made a solid effortto quit in years.
I've always wanted to, but, myGod, breaking a nicotine
addiction is up there for mebecause I've always found it as
a wonderful stress pacifier.
But, yeah, I think it's time.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Oh man, I love it.
So he's quitting smoking cigshe's, so he's being so human
about it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I do love that he's quitting the thing that didn't
make him fall off stage At all.
Yeah, no totally.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He was like I know what you're all thinking, guys.
I had too many cigarettes andeven though you didn't see me
have one, I think it's a prettylarge concern that we all have
to focus.
Don't look at me falling again.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
We're concerned about my smoking.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
He's like thank you for introducing me to whiskey.
Never met her before a day inmy life.
I never realized she was thatnice.
Oh, good for him.
Old thomas joel zimmerman, thecoolest canadian dj around jt.
Well, speaking of cool, we'vegot ourselves butt of the week
oh my god, on a tuesday on atuesday and butt of the week
this week is prison marriage,specifically prison marriage
(10:47):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Specifically prison marriage.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Tiger King Joe Exotic .
He has gotten married behindbars to an inmate doing time for
immigration crimes.
What so?
That's like the most innocentthing you can go to jail for it
is it's just existing.
Yeah, what are you in here forBelieving in the American dream?
Thinking I could come to thiscountry and make it, pull myself
up by my moot straps and have afamily Freedom, freedom.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Enjoy this four by five.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He is married now to a 33-year-old man.
Joe always gets him young.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So it's same-sex prison.
Marriage is the butt of theweek.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, because what there's not, they don't.
Yeah, it's always going to besame-sex.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I guess.
So I'm talking about twoprisoners getting married in
prison.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, I think that's adorable.
Yeah, it's wonderful, so cute.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It's more marriage than marriage.
I don't know why, becauseyou're like really together.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You cannot leave each other at all.
Yeah, you can't do the thingwhere you're like well, we're
going to have boys night.
You're in boys night.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, what if you?
Oh, do you want different cellsor do you want the same cell?
Because that would be stressful.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah you want separate cells.
Very, very stressful.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, so the incarcerated zookeeper has met
Jorge Flores Maldonado.
He took his last name.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Of course he did.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Jorge took his last name, and they were together in
tuxedos and they wore plainwhite hats and white
boutonnieres to match.
According to Joseph, he says Ihave never been more proud of
someone.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And look at the picture of them.
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
He is such a sugar AI flowers.
It's adorable, oh my God.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
No, I didn't know, this poor man Matching white
hats?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
This is a get, tiger King's a get.
Tiger King is a get, I guess.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, it's two of the most innocent crimes that you
could commit to be sentenced tohard time.
This guy, again, again, is justlike I didn't fill out the
paperwork, all right.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And then you know, Tiger King is like you, have one
too many tigers in yourbackyard.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Right, oh, I threatened to kill this big
fucking chick that I hate, butnot even really I was just like
God.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I wish he was dead.
And then one dude was like I'llkill her for you.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And all of a sudden you're in a conspiracy to murder
.
Exactly so he says.
Meet my husband, jorge floresmaldonado.
Maldonado's new husband iscurrently serving time again
because of immigration issues.
Uh, exotic posted back inoctober that he was engaged.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So it's been going on for a while.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
He's there, in love it started in 2024 and it's
finalized in 2025.
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean, it's just the kid.
Just, I would say.
The kid seems like he has thewhole world in front of him, but
how much time does he have?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
He's got a whole Joe behind him.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yes, that's what he's got.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
So right now they say that Joe says he's working on
getting Marquez asylum or we'llbe leaving America when we both
get out.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, yeah, lord knows, you need asylum too,
buddy.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yes.
In response, one social mediawished him good luck.
Maldonado said he has noproblem going to Mexico with his
new husband, if released.
So that would be nice.
You go to prison, come out witha husband, you end up in Mexico
and you just live your life theway you want to live it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That is so wild.
It's just a love story.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It really is a love story.
So congratulations to TigerKing, joe Exotic and.
Jorge, I hope you guys have awonderful, wonderful life
together.
Yes, and just you know, ciao,maybe ciao together, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
We'll be talking to him in the next month or two, oh
we're going to chat with himagain.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, we're chatting with him again.
We should just chat with himanyway.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, so we're going to catch up with him on death
and entertainment.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And we definitely have to know.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, we have to catch up with him on love and
entertainment.
That's right.
I agree with that.
I agree with that?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yep, I agree with that.
Good call, jerry.
I do want to know if they selltogether.
Sell what Sell Like see Likesell Sell ramen packets for
drugs.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Are they allowed to be like husbands, like oh well,
now that they're husband andhusband, you say obviously they
have to move into the same cell.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, just that's God's law.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I did watch an episode of Lock Up Indiana,
which, holy hell, I don't know.
What's going on in Indiana.
A lot of people in there formeth, sounds dark and a guy
finally got to be with hisbunkmate that he wanted.
It was a transgender gal, Isuppose, and they were just
having sex all day.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Wow, they loved it.
That sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, but then the guy was also like in here she's
a woman On the streets.
I like women, but then you knowit's all confusing, it's prison
.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You know, if only prisoners were a little more
used to saying it's all just aspectrum man, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I'm not sure if they've gotten that in their
liberal arts classes thatthey're forced to take All right
.
Well, speaking of prisoners,scott Peterson, did he kill
Lacey and the baby?
Yes, well, you guys agree withthe comment section on TMZ
agrees with you guys, because hedid.
But the Innocence Project sayshe didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
The LA Innocence Project.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
The Los Angeles Innocence Project.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Okay, why does that change anything?
That's double A ball.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
No, it's not the Los Angeles Innocence Project.
That's creme of the creme, it'snot the Madison Wisconsin
Innocence Project.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
No, you never fucked that guy up.
Don't you think that would bemore innocent than the Los
Angeles Innocence Project?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Los Angeles.
All they do is deal withcriminals.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
All they're here to do is, yeah, to deal with the
Instagram-influencing criminals.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
According to the Los Angeles Innocence Project, they
say they have new evidence thatwill exonerate Scott Peterson,
the person that both of you guysare deeming a murderer.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
A 1.5 murderer?
Yeah, exactly because she waspregnant.
It's despicable, I think, damn,you really think he did not?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I have no idea.
All I know is the LA InnocenceProject filed a petition Friday.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, but they said we're going to come out.
They're always exaggeratingthat, though they never actually
have this incredible piece ofexonerating evidence.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They do.
No, they don't.
Well, you're not letting mespeak it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh, you know what it is.
Yes, okay, yeah, I'm speakingit, so say it.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
There was a burglary the day before at the neighbor's
house.
There was a busted up vanoutside of their home.
In that van was a mattresscovered in blood.
They never tested that bloodand they never even brought that
to the jury.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Why would they never test that blood?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because they're all dumb and they saw Scott Peterson
banging this other broad andthey're like that guy is
definitely fucking guiltybecause he's banging this blonde
chick who was, like you know, acalifornia one in arizona 11.
And then, although chicks inarizona are beautiful, so maybe
flip it, but yeah, they nevercared because they thought it
was scott peterson from the get.
Yeah, so, according to multiplereports, scott's uh wife, lacey
(17:59):
peterson she was again.
She was eight months pregnant.
She disappeared the eve of 2002.
You feel old, yet yeah.
Holy shit, yes, this baby couldfucking drink if it was alive,
oh shit.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, you're right, this baby would be an adult, oh
my.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
God.
Anyway, she was found in theSan Francisco Bay months later,
and then he became the primesuspect when it was revealed
that he had an affair with amassage therapist, which, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Of course you have a.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's what a massage therapist is for.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I don't know about love, I don't know about
marriage, but I would say, ifone of your significant others
is constantly going to a massagetherapist, they're getting
jerked or beamed, they'regetting flicked one way or
another.
Yeah, so cops arrested Scottottin april of 2003, ultimately
found guilty, but again, the newevidence was never brought to
(18:52):
light.
Lady, now they do, okay.
So there is this, all thecircumstantial evidence.
They call it uh-huh where it'slike, yeah, it was his old
swimming hole, yeah, and youknow, maybe fishing he was
fishing she was found in thewater.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
She was, uh, anchored down with concrete.
They found the concrete dustall over his boat.
He said he just happened to bemaking an anchor for his boat
with said concrete the day thatshe was killed, so he's fucked
yeah but then they're like hey,bloody mattress Over there.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
There's a bloody mattress over there.
Look.
The Innocence Project says Okay, okay, okay.
The Innocence Project sayspolice ignored a burglary at the
neighbor's house and burned outvan, again with blood-stained
mattresses inside, which they doclaim could be related to
Lacey's death.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Mm-hmm, so we'll see what happens.
It could be he could have puther in that mattress.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, and you know what Peterson says, what it's
important to me that whoeverkilled my wife and son be found
and held accountable.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Don't worry, we did.
I can't believe he's stillsaying that shit.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Is that something a murderer would say?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yes, oj Simpson said it.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
He said I will not rest.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
In the eyes of the American legal system, he rested
very well.
Yeah, yeah, he did.
He's a thief, not a murderer.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
If whoever committed.
And then he says if whoevercommitted such violence against
Lacey and Connor is still atlarge, they are a danger to
public safety.
Because he cares about publicsafety, good thing.
And then he says it is alsoimportant to me that I clear my
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name and my family's namebecause I did not and could
never harm or kill my family.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Okay, sure, so he is um in prison right now, right,
oh, yeah, yeah, well, that'sgood yeah, he's the one that
getting.
He's getting into fightsplaying pickleball yeah, that's
so true he's getting intopickleball fights.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I just think, isn't he just like us yeah just like
us.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
No, no, I'll get into a fight playing pickleball I've
never, I've never made anythingout of concrete, let alone a
fucking anchor yeah, I don'twhat do you mean?
I was just all.
I have all this random cementjust so that I can make an
anchor for my boat, and, whoops,a lot of it is attached to my
dead wife.
Never had had a wife, which isa problem I got to look inward
for.
But that's you know.
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There's a lot of situationsthat I'm not.
And another thing these fuckingcops just do your job the right
way, so that way they don't getoff on technicalities being
like oh well, I guess we forgotto check the mattress, so all of
this is null and void, eventhough the fucking the dead wife
or the dead baby are not nulland voiding themselves.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Check the mattress in the fucking busted up van that
probably had a home invaderdriving it.
Yeah, so that's Mark Garagos.
Yeah, he's Scott's lawyer, whoI think was also OJ's lawyer.
Yeah, anyway, he says the caseagainst Peterson is an
abomination.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
An abomination, it's an abomination that sounds like
the checks are clearing for him.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
An abomination, it's an abomination that sounds like
the checks are clearing for him.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, basically, yeah , basically, that's exactly what
that sounds like.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
He's doing his job.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, I hope you guys are happy because everyone in
the comments section of this TMZarticle agrees with you.
So what good company you guyskeep.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, they caught him with like $15,000 cash and IDs
and a passport to go leave forMexico.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, Ben yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
So he could take his very innocent ass somewhere else
.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
What am I guilty of?
Eating a succulent Chinese meal?
Get your hands off my penis,Cantaman vacation.
Also, are you guys not the twothat want to suck the D's of the
Menendez brothers, who didworse than that after they
butchered their two parents?
Yes, granted, they wereprobably pedophiles.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yes, okay, yeah, I'm all for killing pedophiles.
Call me old-fashioned,old-fashioned.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Old-fashioned Jinx Nice.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
According to a comment and I rarely care about
these comments, but this mightbe interesting he says I lived
where the remains washed up.
We all knew we're sailors, sothat means they're gay.
They say the dude did not checkthe tides.
He would have gotten away withit if his newly acquired boat
with his homemade weights thathad her hair on them was out at
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the right time.
But it was not, so anyway,Anyway.
We'll keep you updated on whathappens with all that.
We'll see.
It doesn't seem as if he hasthe same public support as the
formerly mentioned Menendezbrothers.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
No, yeah, no, why would he?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Also remember that guy who did the UnitedHealthcare
shooting.
The hot guy, yeah.
Remember the ugly guy, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
No ugly guy.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, no, no one talks about him.
Not at all.
Isn't that funny?
I didn't care less.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
They're all going to treat me like.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Luigi Mangio.
How is he?
How is he?
How's my boy?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
He just made fruitless demands outside and
then got arrested.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, for real, it's just the weakest shit ever.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
All right, well, let's get to death news A
paranormal investigator known asthe real life Scully.
No, not from Monsters Inc.
Wow, From X-Files.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's Sully.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
What?
Oh, that's Sully.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, I was like what Not to be confused with
Sullenberger yeah well, okay.
Who flew the plane into theHudson?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Scully Sully.
That's who I was thinking about.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Scully Sully, I can't see the difference.
Hey, anyway, he died last month.
Oh no, yes, he's remembered asan icon and a hero within the
skeptical community.
The man's name was Joe Nickel.
He called himself the world'sonly full-time professional
paranormal investigator, and Ibelieve that Because there is
(24:31):
very little money in findingghosts, where is his?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
1099?
I want to see the paperworkthat clears him from being a
full-time paranormalinvestigator.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
There's no paperwork in Ghost Hunting.
It's all in business.
Never leave a paper trail.
He was known for digging intosome of the world's biggest
myths.
He was a skeptical inquirer.
Nicol had worked as a columnistfor decades.
He wrote articles about enigmas, including historical, forensic
and paranormal stories.
(25:02):
Yes, this is according to BarryCarr, the executive director of
the Committee for SkepticalInquiry, which that man spells,
there is a committee.
Yeah, he's dusty.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's very dusty.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Committee for.
So he has to stand before apanel of people that they can
accept.
They're like, all right, we seethat you wrote this article on
what you think might be outthere.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm seeing a lot of tan and taupe.
Oh for sure, and they calledglasses spectacles.
Yes, and maybe there's amonocle involved.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
There could be a monocle.
Someone's got a cane.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh, someone has a cane.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, absolutely, but not ironically.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
They need it.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Oh, they're all feeble.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, at least three of them have some kind of
fibromyalgia, I mean and isn'tthat the biggest mystery of all?
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
So Barry Carr says Joe was a hands-on investigator
who could be found aboard theQueen Mary looking for alleged
ghosts.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
How do you make money being a ghost hunter?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
It's really hard.
You've got to write stuff andthen you've got to go to the
conventions and then you've gotto sign papers or autographs.
It just sucks.
Oh, then meet and greets, meetand greets, and then people will
be like I don't know if you'rereally right about the ghost of
the anal, whatever.
And then you have to be like,well, no, I queefed it out
myself, I'm pretty right, yeahand it's all real stupid and
people are smelly I see, yeah,oh, they are, which I don't like
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it.
The ghost community yeah, whichis why I powder, I powder.
Also, I powder all over myhouse, so if there is a ghost In
my house, I'll be able to seeIts footprints.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Why would?
But if it's a ghost, don't theylike Not have feet?
Don't they like Fully dissolveFrom, like the knees down, and
they just float around?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Did you watch Paranormal?
Paranormal what was the name?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
of the.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Pertinomal activity.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Because they have feet.
They have little feet.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
They have little feet yeah they wear little ghost
shoes.
As soon as you die, you have togo to the ghost shoe store and
they're like, well, Fuckingsucks.
First things first.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
If you're going to haunt a house.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You want the right shoes.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'm still a size 14, huh.
Yeah, I guess I got a big oldghost bag, so he was looking for
ghosts at the Queen Mary.
He would also go to a farmer'sfield and investigate crop
circles.
He was also seen roaming theshores of the Loch Ness for
Nessie Seen.
He was seen.
He was seen roaming the shoresof Loch Ness looking for Nessie
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the big old thing.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Well, yeah, yeah, who isn't a ghost?
But?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
that's not a ghost.
No, he does everything you haveto.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's different income streams.
You got the cryptid groups.
You got the ghost groups.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
They all live under the same tent.
Yeah, come on now, literally inthe woods.
He also toured China, studyingtraditional Chinese medicine and
examining the claims of theQui-Gon masters.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Like Qui-Gon Jinn.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yes, so he is getting laid all the time?
Oh, definitely, obviously.
And Barry says that barely evenscratches the surface of what
this guy has done.
Joe was a true polymath, whooften left you in awe of his
depth of knowledge in whatseemed to be a limitless number
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of subjects.
Because you make it up.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, honestly In awe .
Yeah, I would leave in awe.
I'd be like man.
This guy did not shut up aboutthat random fucking shelf that
he thought was a ghost for like25 minutes.
I am in utter awe and shockthat he had so much to keep
trying to filter into my brain.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the obituary that
everybody wants.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
They say he was a walking and talking encyclopedia
with never-ending curiosity.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Aw.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
To know even more and bring on the next mystery.
So he is dead.
What a tremendous loss.
They say he can never bereplaced.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
So, thank you for what you did the skeptical
inquirer, mr Nickel.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yes, yes.
Us skeptics need people likeyou.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, but he did get into an argument with a lot of
people.
He says I'm tired of thesedebunkers coming to my office,
so people were kind of razzinghim.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, obviously yeah, it's not real.
For the last time I saw it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And you know what the debunkers would yell at him.
Hey Nickel, seen any ghostslately?
Har, har, har.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Nerd Give him a wedgie.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh my God, Imagine dealing with dumb shit like that
until you're very old age.
He's very old, you're like howthe fuck am I still going
through this?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Like shut up up ghost dork.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Right, he's like I'm 80 can I have
Speaker 1 (29:35):
some respect around here.
Yeah, yeah, he also listed morethan a thousand personas that
helped him with his job oh lord.
Do you know what those personas?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
are.
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
so he was.
He was a private investigator,a federal fugitive, a food
server, a magician.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Federal fugitive.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I just want the government to just intersect
right now and just be like hewas never wanted by the FBI for
any federal reason whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Tommy Lee Jones chased him off a waterfall.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Nobody ever wanted him.
It was a one-armed man.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
The ghost arm.
He was also a magician, he wasa beer master and, most
importantly to me, a Bigfoothunter.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Oh, oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
According to Kenny Biddle.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I never caught you.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Mm-hmm.
According to Kenny Biddle, hesaid he didn't treat a ghost
story as a ghost story or a UFOstory as a UFO story, which I
don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But he didn't.
They weren't stories to him,man, they were real life.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Okay, so there you go .
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Rest in peace.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Rest in peace, real life.
Scully Alright.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
He should be like here, haunting everyone.
That was like debunking him.
He should spend his entire lifejust haunting all those
motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
He knows now, doesn't he?
He knows the truth.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Now he knows, now he's like, wow, I was so wrong
about all of this.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, they educate him on his ghost stereotypes.
Right, he's going to open.
You know he's going to startlearning.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, no, we don't talk to Mr Cortez over there.
He fought for the Confederacy.
It's all like political andshit, all right.
Well, speaking of concrete,this story is just really,
really shitty.
And it's another example.
I am all for rehabilitation,all for hey, you did your time,
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come on out Work at the WaffleHouse.
Except for one group of people,and that is child sex offenders
.
It's just very difficult tooverlook that A grandmother took
a risk by hiring somebody tohelp her take care of her home.
That was a child sex offender.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yes, it's very sad she was 82 years old.
I say was because she is dead.
She was found buried under ashed in concrete.
More developments have come out, oh my God.
They say that she was foundbound with Velcro straps and
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beaten.
She wasn't just beaten, she wastortured with a nail gun.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Good God.
Okay, that's horrible, Right.
And also what an insult to bebound by Velcro.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
She's ew, that sucks.
Yeah, you're 82.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It fucking sucks.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You could technically come out of this.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Right.
Just put a rubber band aroundher arm.
She's like I can't stretchthese.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Like a lobster claws.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I mean it makes sense that a disgusting child
predator would go after an82-year-old as well, because
they're looking for people whoare weak.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Who are real.
That's probably something.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Young or old.
There's a Venn diagram ofvictimhood for these pieces of
trash, according to the ThurstonCounty coroner, gary Warnock.
He said it was the worst casehe's ever witnessed.
He says her onset from injuryto death was not instant.
It took hours.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
She held on for a long time.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
She did.
You make it 82 years and youget fucking tortured by this
douche bag.
Yep, they say, we see andwitness things, and this
investigation is one you cannotunsee.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
That's crazy.
It sounds brutal.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
The name of the killer is her former handyman
and his name is Fun.
That's not his name, but hisname is Jeffrey Ziz, ah, ziz,
z-i-z-z, ziz, ziz.
That guy, remember Dr Zizmore.
No, a little bit the ads in NewYork City for the guy that
would get rid of all yourpimples.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he did do that.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Jeffrey Ziz.
He's 47.
He appeared in court.
He was arrested on suspicion ofmurder, kidnapping, and then
they always say you didn'tdispose of the body right, which
is the least worst of all thestuff.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, it's like you made a body.
You made a person a body.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yes, he is a child molesting veteran.
Do you thank him for yourservice?
Do you thank him for theservice Do?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
you thank him for the service and when you say child
molesting.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Was he a veteran of child molesting?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, I don't think you get a badge for that.
You don't get a badge, I think,when you're oh man, you know
I'm a veteran.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
There's not like a PFW, like a Pedophiles of
Foreign Wars.
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Purple colon.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, I just go down to the PFW, you know, bowl a
little bit With the guys.
You know, yeah, the guys.
He is a father of five.
He's being held without bail.
This woman, she was reportedmissing April 4th of this year
and, yeah, they've built thecase around Ziz.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, I can imagine his five kids don't want much to
do with him.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Probably not.
Yeah, probably not.
I mean, also, they have to livewith the last name Ziz.
That's terrible.
I mean it's cool.
If you're cool, I'm going toziz.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah.
But if you're not cool, thenyou're just like they're like
hey ziz, how's your fuckingpants?
On your ankles.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
If you have bad acne, you're zitty ziz.
Yeah you know.
But if you're cool like, ifyou're like a middle linebacker
and you're like Frankie ziz,that's cool, I, that's cool I
guess, so it would be cool.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I mean, you're kind of like a hate rapist.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
It's the Ziz Master that's it's not like the Ziz,
it's the Ziz Meister, ziz,meister man.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Ziz bro, ziz Zizki.
I like Ziz.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Meister you don't like.
Ziz Meister.
No, I mean, he's one of thefriends that, like you, can't
bring.
Yeah, the handyman was the lastperson to see her alive after
she invited him over for dinner.
Oh, what a piece of garbage.
A search of Ziz's homeuncovered a five-page letter
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which meticulously planned out aburglary and sexual assault of
a woman who was referred to ashis customer.
So he also made a five-pageletter talking about it.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
He likes them very young and very old.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
He doesn't like anybody.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
He doesn't like anybody, but he does like to
write apparently he wrote fivepages, what?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
a fucking asshole.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Five pages.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
What a dickhead.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Did he like indent each paragraph?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Why would you?
This reminds me of a littlepoem that I thought of Right.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
What?
Yeah, he was arrested.
Ziz was arrested in Missoula,montana.
He was initially interviewedbut became the suspect after he
falsely claimed he was home thenight.
She disappeared, but of coursehe was not.
So anyway, that's RIP.
Just be careful who you hire.
But you never know, because youwant to trust people.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, you don't want to be like.
This is a good thing that I'mdoing.
I don't want to.
You know they've rehabilitated.
They need a chance.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
And it's always such a shock when the person that you
trusted turns out to be amonster Like I've had this
experience in my real life whereI trusted somebody and then I
find out they want to kill mydogs and shit.
I'm like what the fuck is wrongwith these psychos.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Why would they want to kill your dog?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Buddy, I don't know.
I haven't lost all faith inhumanity Because I keep it, but
I have to actively work at it.
I know I totally get people whoare just like God, I'm not
really with folk, I'm not reallyfeeling people right now.
I'm like I understand thatsucks.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
It's so frustrating.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
But I love it Actively trying to make people
happy.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I love people, I hate people.
I love gatherings.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Mm-hmm, you know Well , speaking of people and, I
guess, sexual abuse, this is atoss-up story, so I want to talk
about this.
On last episode, we discussedhow some pedophiles are using AI
child porn.
Absolutely disgusting, right.
But now teenagers are using AIto create fake nudes of their
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classmates.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
That's still child porn.
That's bullying too Harshlycyberbullying.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Unless like, look fucking amazing in it.
You're like, oh, that's meputting saggy tits.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
You know they're putting saggy long nipples on
all of you right, that's true,and this is.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You know, this is what happens.
These are teenagers doingteenager stuff.
Yeah, so I don't like, becausethere's some people in prison
for, like, sexting when theywere both 15.
I don't know, that's like aweird yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
To arrest like a 16-year-old on child pornography
charges and it's like come on,dude, it's just weird yeah.
It was like a 7th gradersending text to an 8th grader.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
But this is a case that is now new territory.
So teens are using AI and thenthey're creating very realistic
images naked images of theirclassmates.
It was on an app called NudifyNudify.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Nudify.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
These are Nudify apps .
Speaker 2 (38:38):
That's a very specific app that was made for
this.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Who did this?
Who started this app?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
That's the problem, right there.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
That is a very good question, and you wonder if the
person who made this is likeuh-oh.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Some guy that was sick of paying for OnlyFans.
I think, Dude, he's like.
I'll take a picture of myneighbor and see her naked.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Is that real now that guys are doing OnlyFans but
covered up with AI to make themlook like women?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Oh, I mean, that probably is a.
Thing.
Oh yeah, that is a thing.
That is a thing, I guess youdon't know what's the difference
.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
And men, we should make money too.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
The men wealth gap on OnlyFans is real yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Men should go into female-dominated fields that are
trying to Take up space.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yes, fields that are trying to.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Take up space.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yes, yeah, and male-dominated fields.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
So it is a nudify app .
That's what they're beingdubbed.
All you have to do is take apicture, a headshot, put it into
the app and then the app islike this is what that dude
looks naked, looks like nakedbig old balls and shit, but to
your point, they are probablymaking them look worse than they
do or whatever.
(39:46):
I mean everyone.
I don't know, I don't want towhatever.
According to Don Austin,superintendent of the Palo Alto
Unified School District.
He says we're at a place nowwhere you can be doing nothing
and stories and pictures aboutyou are posted online.
They're fabricated, they'recompletely made up through ai
and it can have your voice, yourface.
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It's a whole nother world.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I hate that it's.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
It's crazy.
I hate that so much, but ifit's not really you, so I guess
it's.
The question is if it's notreally you right, and you know
it's not really you, buteveryone thinks it's you
perception is reality, I suppose.
So it might as well be you,yeah, and it's not really you
right, and you know it's notreally you, but everyone thinks
it's you.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Perception is reality , I suppose so it might as well
be you, yeah, and it's not even.
I feel like even with teenagersit doesn't even have to be that
black and white where itimmediately has to automatically
look like them.
It could just be funny to belike I put Tanya's face on this
random body and they're like oh,that's stupid.
You put a differentskin-colored body on her head
because she's stupid, right, andthen it's all fake, but
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everyone's laughing anyway.
And you're like oh, shut upguys, we all know that's not my
body.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
And they're like yeah , Then you've got to show us.
Then you've got to show us yourbody.
Make sure your clit doesn'tlook like that, because you're
stupid yeah so to your point,kyle.
last summer, a San Franciscocity's attorney's office they
sued 16 so-called nudifywebsites for allegedly violating
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laws around child exploitationthose sites.
In the first half of 2023,guess how many visits those
sites got?
Oh boy, I don't even want toknow.
Oh, a million, 200 million.
Jesus Christ, there's only like300 million people in this
country.
What the fuck.
So like?
I guess it's international, butthat's a lot right, that's a
lot.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
I mean, yeah, it sucks, because it's like maybe
they had good intentions withthis app, maybe they were like
yeah, what, what, what.
I want to have a crush onsomeone and have some private
time in my fantasies aboutthings without actually going to
that person, stalking them,taking photos, and I'm just
going to keep this littlesituation in my brain me myself
(41:52):
and the tissue box.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
No, or they're doing it for themselves.
If you're trying to courtsomeone, you're like oh, this is
what I look like, naked.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
That could also be.
Oh well, that's bad, becausethen that's catfishing now.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Oh yeah, absolutely, but people do it all the time.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, so it's a catfishing act, and of course
you catch a catfish by puttingyour hand right in the water and
the catfish bites you.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
My guess is that it's a weaponized catfish situation
here.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, he's probably right about that.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Minnesota is the first state to try to pass
legislation to hold thesecompanies accountable.
However, it's extremelydifficult because, again, these
companies move very fast.
They say this causes extremeharm.
They say kids these days willupload maybe a headshot of
another kid at school and theapp will recreate the body of
that person as if they are nude.
(42:40):
This causes extreme harm tothat kid that might be in the
photo, and especially theirfriends, as well as the whole
family, which I mean.
That would be awkward.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yep, pretty messed up to have to stand there and
explain.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, so be careful Before you give your kids a
phone, make sure you have thisdiscussion.
You want to have a discussionwith them.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
You want to have a discussion about, like what apps
?
Yeah, what apps?
I mean, there's so much youhave to talk about with kids
these days.
When it comes to these phones,they all just have not only
better access but a betterunderstanding because they grew
up with it.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, they're all smart.
They're so much smarter than us.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah, they know how to do this with one hand while
they're not paying attention inclass.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I know.
Then you take a picture of theteacher.
Ooh, we had a teacher, MrsHarrison.
She went to go be a model inChicago.
What Wish I had that AI app.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Oh wow, that would have been awesome.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
My friend Matt.
Accidentally he was going toswing his arm around, probably
trying to hit me or something,but he accidentally touched her
vagina, oh, wow.
Oh, my God yeah we talked aboutit at recess about it at recess
.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I hate that so much.
We were in sixth grade Fuckingweirdo, never washing this hand
again.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
We were in sixth grade, mrs Harrison.
She was a banger, she was superhot, super cute.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
She sounds great.
She sounds like she was alittle bit assaulted by some
fucking.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
No, it was an accident.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Fucking A.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
It was an accident Alright.
Well, just lastly, you knowthat story about Madeline McCann
.
Yeah, this is a baby.
She went missing a couple ofyears ago.
Yeah, it's British.
So the McCanns, this story waseverywhere right, and everyone's
like you killed your babyparents.
And the parents are like wedidn't kill our baby, we loved
our baby.
Yada, yada, yada.
I think they ended up.
(44:16):
They were never charged withanything and someone did steal
the baby with anything.
And someone did steal the baby.
I don't think they've everfound out who did it, but making
their lives even worse.
There is a woman who isclaiming to be Madeline McCann
and now she has pleaded notguilty to stalking the missing
toddler's parents and theirsiblings by turning up at their
home.
Oh my God, doesn't that suck.
(44:36):
So she's like I'm your deaddaughter and they're like no, oh
my God.
Our daughter is definitely deadand you are like, really ugly,
she's not like as cute asmadeline mccann, so they're you
know, I think they're also like,like, even if it really was
their daughter, they'd be likeyou know what our?
Daughter's dead.
Get out of here it wouldtotally suck if that was
actually her right and she'd belike why don't you love me like
(44:57):
you're not our?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
daughter, you're an imposter because we know we
killed her Right.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Oh my god, that'd be a what if we didn't actually
bury the body?
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I told you to make sure the pulse was fucking not
there anymore.
She's back.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
She wants revenge.
Oh god, and apparently she'sfrom Poland.
She's.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Polish.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
She's 23.
She appeared in the courts ofLeicester Crown Court and she
was like I am not guilty, butshe allegedly had unwanted
contact with the McCanns,turning up with their addresses,
and then she sent them lettersand WhatsApp messages and so she
really got obsessed and soshe's being charged with
stalking.
And then she's also stalkingMadeline's brother, sean, who
(45:43):
was just like, can I just not dothis?
All the time, damn.
And she denied causing seriousharm or distress from May 3,
2024 and February 21 of thisyear.
So she's been on it for a while.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh, yep, so now she's in custody.
She must really think she iswho she says she is.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
She's in custody, so now she's happy custody.
She must really think she iswho she says she is.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
She's in custody.
So now she's happy that someonehas custody of her because
she's been looking for it Isn'tthat nice, it's heartwarming
really.
Yep.
She also has an Instagramhandle at.
I am Madeline McCann.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
God.
That's crazy so you want togive her a follow?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
I don't know, man, there's something about this
that's not sitting right with me.
This could really be her.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
She had previously shared a DNA test which shows
she's 100% Polish.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Oh, you never want to be 100% Polish.
What does that have to do withanything?
It's stupid.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
She can't be Madeleine McCann, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Her parents aren't Polish.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Wow, yeah, oh there you go Between the Russians and
the Polish.
You don't want to adopt fromeither country.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Yeah, you really don't.
Lots of duds.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
They don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
They just don't know that they're Just like a big
brute fucking bear.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I mean, man, I guess it depends what you're trying to
get.
I mean, it's weird when youcall it casting, not adopting.
Yeah, so she posted her DNAresults and then everyone's like
, yeah, you're not our daughter,so now she's going to kind of
go to jail.
And I don't know, if I was herparents I'd be like, well, I
guess we did a horrible jobbecause she wants to be this
dead girl now.
Well, that's that update, allright any comments Okay.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Vanessa said there was an SVU episode like that A
girl pretended to be thiscouple's missing child.
Turns out the sister actuallykilled her and the mother
covered it up, so they knew thatshe was not the daughter they
couldn't say how much they knewshe wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
No, there's no way I killed that.
Oh wait, no, no, no, you're it.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, I mean, I've been looking for her everywhere.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Lori's saying all they need is the DNA to figure
that one out.
I mean, that's pretty pointblank, it's true?
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Well, yeah, that's what they did and she's Polish,
which you don't need to do DNAtesting to figure if someone's
Polish, you just see.
Oh yeah, but a screen door anda submarine.
There's a lot of Polish-likejokes because they're all dumb.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Vanessa's saying kids are assholes.
They're going to use that tobully the shit out of some poor
kid who's already going throughit, which that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Kids pile on, but you know what I would do, though,
if I was that kid I'd AI myself,make myself look fucking
shredded.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Greek God Exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yep.
I'd be like Joe's on you,because that is my body.
That's what I look like underthis shirt.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
And everybody is saying OJ Simpson and Scott
Peterson are guilty Ben.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Everybody.
Well, you better agree with thecrowd.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah, you better Just ask.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Jesus of Nazareth, I'm crying.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Jesus was killed for sticking up for OJ Simpson.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Did the glove fit on Jesus' hand, then you gotta
acquit him.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
It was nailed to a cross, the cross fit though.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Oh nice, yeah, cross fit, all right, everyone.
Well, thank you, I got to goexercise and do some cross fit.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Thank you all so much for listening.
We'll be back on Thursday.
Also, again, check out the OKBud YouTube, because I think
we're going to.
Let's keep.
Bo-bo-bo-bo-bo-bo, deadmau5.
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Thank you, you would allow me to get plowed by Carrot
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Because we're about to talkabout it?
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Speaker 2 (01:36):
We just got some nice dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
We did get a lot of nice dogs.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
And that's not a euphemism for anything.
They're actual dogs.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
No, they're actual doggos.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yes, well, speaking of Deadmau5 and Coachella, what
a fun night he had.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
He had such a good night he doesn't remember it.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
And I love that for him.
For those that don't know, areyou under a rock?
Have you been under a rock?
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Yeah, Deadmau5 has been pretty big for a long time.
He's a Canadian DJ, yeah,because when I think DJ, he
makes awesome house music.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
He does.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Is there such thing?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, oh my God, it's the same thing.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
All right, limp Bizkit Jr.
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
That is a good point.
Kyle did say that Corey Feldmanimpressed him.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It was very impressive.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, yeah, kyle, but then Jerry's pushback also does
reign, true.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And, honestly, deadmau5 impressed me at
Coachella.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Oh, deadmau5,.
Canadian DJ.
Real name Joel Thomas Zimmerman.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Joel JT Zimmerman.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
JT Zimmerman the names are never as good as the
stage names.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Justin Timberlake Zimmerman.
What about him?
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yep, he went with Deadmau5 there and he got all
drunk right and he was having alot of fun.
And let's just listen to alittle bit of his clip, because
this is what you go to Coachellafor.
Yeah, you go for the disaster,you go for the calamity.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah, everyone was like we paid hundreds of dollars
to see an elite performancefrom Deadmau5.
And instead we got Dude thosepretty drunk on stage.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
You got what you deserved.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Honestly.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Every one of them.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
It's a festival.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
He has to have fun.
Yeah, all right, let's playDeadmau5.
First fall.
So he just kind of falls offthe stage there a bunch.
Just a little stumbly stump,and then he continues to fall
off the stage.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Well, this one, he just kind of folds over the
turntables.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
And his hands are still twisting the knobs.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, and then he just stays like that, yeah
completely face first down.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
He's in a K-hole.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
That is how talented he is, though the music is still
sounding okay.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
The music is still awesome.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
It's still flowing through him, I love that Do we
have any of him talking?
Yeah, it's about to come up.
He falls over Right now.
He's on the ground, but he'sabout to grab a mic Because
they're like, cut the music.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
Don't want to cut that music.
Never cut the music fromLegends, legends he sounds
(04:13):
canadian all right dead mouse.
Thank you, dead mouse get himoff.
I said I want on Keep him onthe stage.
This is what you pay for.
This Coachella has been a totalclusterfuck.
I mean, I know very, verylittle about any of it, but I
feel like this would be thething that you want to go see.
(04:36):
You want to see everyone kindof fall apart, get super fucked
up, because what is it?
Is it day like 19?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
How long has this been going on for?
It's been going.
It goes on for like for like,every every summer solstice
weekend that there is in thesummer.
I don't know what that means,but it happens a lot, it feels
like.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
He's just been fucked up for like 15 straight days.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
And it's also yeah, and it's also like he's not the
only person in this like it's agoddamn festival.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
It's a festival.
He's hanging out with all therock stars backstage getting
hammered.
That's the show.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's the show.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
I wouldn't want to.
Who cares what happens on thestage?
Yeah, I actually wouldn't care.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I want to see crowd one second, I mean I'm not a
festival person in general atall, just because I can't stand
the I've already.
I'm walking like three milesfrom stage to stage, drunken 21
year olds just running aroundkicking dirt around each other
because it's cute and fun forthem, and then porta potties, oh
, porta potty.
Everything is a very long line.
(05:40):
I can't I can't.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
no, I want to see every one of the outfits that
they post being like look, lookat this chick and how cute she
is.
I want to see her when she hasto dump and I want to see what
she has to unstrap in order toget into that nasty ass porta
potty.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
She needs like two girlfriends to help unzip some
random shit, untie some bows.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's worse than your wedding night, because at the
end you just get VD, you don'tget married yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
Although I will say they are pretty protected with
their like giant platform boots,because they're like three feet
off the ground with boots sothey're not really touching any
of like the gross stuff on thefloor oh, that's good.
So that always makes me feelbetter.
That is a very I do really likethe rave outfits.
They're so cute.
Oh they're cute.
I would just want to wear themto, like you know, a dive bar on
a Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Absolutely so.
The EDM producer.
He's 44.
He says I don't rememberanything, but he does say this
but I don't think I had a cig,so that's good, I guess that's
hilarious.
So he did not have a cigarette.
So Deadmau5, you won you winthe night.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
He was pretty, he was a successful junk person,
without being like, hey, who'sgot a cigarette?
He, he was like who's got thebeat?
Oh, wait me.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
That's right.
That's my job.
That's right.
Isn't that impressive.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
It is pretty impressive.
You know some people when theyrun around drunk they're like I
want a cigarette, yes, and maybethis was something he was
trying really hard to let go of.
And he's like oh, I'm worriedabout getting drunk because I'm
just going to want a cigarette.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
And I told myself, I'd quit.
And I like him because he'sfunny.
He says, quote going back tobed wake me up around
Thursday-ish.
He's like I'm sleeping forthree days.
Fuck you, I'm dead mouse.
I'm literally dead.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, no literally, I'm a mouse that's dead.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
So hopefully everyone's having fun.
He said that's probably hislast Coachella set, but bring
him back.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Who gives a shit?
What are you talking?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
about For why?
Yeah, he says, probably my lastCoachella show.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Yeah, I mean, that's funny.
He has a nice sense of humorabout it.
Yeah, who cares?
Coachella's going to be like.
Oh my God, you're not even theworst fucking artist to have
fallen over the stage this year,you're fine.
Yeah, he wasn't.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Exactly.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You know what?
All of those TikToks?
Not one cigarette.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Unbelievable.
I'm so fucking proud of him.
Good job, Dan.
It's about the little victories.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
It really is.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Didn't break a leg, didn't break an arm.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Honestly as much as he fell over, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
So he was drinking a lot of whiskey, which is
although when I think of EDMmusic, I don't think of whiskey
as the booze that goes with it.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Yeah, no, I would think more like vodka jello
shots.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Yeah, he says dude, that whiskey, I can't lol.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
I can't, he didn't.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
He is so funny.
He says, man, even my cat isdisappointed in me, and he shows
a picture of his cat.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
That's a picture of his cat, yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
He says man, even my cat is disappointed in me,
though it could be argued thatshe's always been, which is true
.
He says sorry about last night,lol.
To be fair, I felt the firstthree-fourths was great.
Fair, I felt the firstthree-fourths was great.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Out of the entire four and a half hours set, I
think of the first solid 15minutes.
They happened.
I remember those and it wasgoing pretty well, from what I
remember.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yep, he says huge shout out to Zoo for introducing
me to whiskey and carrying mydumb ass till the bitter end.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Not introducing me to whiskey.
44-year-old DJ techno player,this is the first time you've
ever gotten drunk.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I love him.
He says let me quit smoking, dosome fucking personal resetting
here at home, find my spiritanimal, work on some new music
and come back better.
Yes, I want to hear some newmusic and come back better.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Yes, I want to hear this new music too.
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Oh my God, I love him .
He also said he was coming downwith a little bug.
He's like I might have a littlebug.
Yeah, it's just a hangover.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's called being hung the fuck over.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's the Irish flu, bro.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
You're going to have this bug for a little while, wow
.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
He is really.
He's like I'm going to quit thecigarette starting today.
I haven't made a solid effortto quit in years.
I've always wanted to, but, myGod, breaking a nicotine
addiction is up there for mebecause I've always found it as
a wonderful stress pacifier.
But, yeah, I think it's time.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Oh man, I love it.
So he's quitting smoking cigshe's, so he's being so human
about it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
I do love that he's quitting the thing that didn't
make him fall off stage At all.
Yeah, no totally.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
He was like I know what you're all thinking, guys.
I had too many cigarettes andeven though you didn't see me
have one, I think it's a prettylarge concern that we all have
to focus.
Don't look at me falling again.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
Nope.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
We're concerned about my smoking.
Speaker 1 (10:26):
He's like thank you for introducing me to whiskey.
Never met her before a day inmy life.
I never realized she was thatnice.
Oh, good for him.
Old thomas joel zimmerman, thecoolest canadian dj around jt.
Well, speaking of cool, we'vegot ourselves butt of the week
oh my god, on a tuesday on atuesday and butt of the week
this week is prison marriage,specifically prison marriage
(10:47):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Specifically prison marriage.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Tiger King Joe Exotic .
He has gotten married behindbars to an inmate doing time for
immigration crimes.
What so?
That's like the most innocentthing you can go to jail for it
is it's just existing.
Yeah, what are you in here forBelieving in the American dream?
Thinking I could come to thiscountry and make it, pull myself
up by my moot straps and have afamily Freedom, freedom.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Enjoy this four by five.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He is married now to a 33-year-old man.
Joe always gets him young.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
So it's same-sex prison.
Marriage is the butt of theweek.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, because what there's not, they don't.
Yeah, it's always going to besame-sex.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I guess.
So I'm talking about twoprisoners getting married in
prison.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
No, I think that's adorable.
Yeah, it's wonderful, so cute.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
It's more marriage than marriage.
I don't know why, becauseyou're like really together.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
You cannot leave each other at all.
Yeah, you can't do the thingwhere you're like well, we're
going to have boys night.
You're in boys night.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah, what if you?
Oh, do you want different cellsor do you want the same cell?
Because that would be stressful.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yeah you want separate cells.
Very, very stressful.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, so the incarcerated zookeeper has met
Jorge Flores Maldonado.
He took his last name.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Of course he did.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Jorge took his last name, and they were together in
tuxedos and they wore plainwhite hats and white
boutonnieres to match.
According to Joseph, he says Ihave never been more proud of
someone.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And look at the picture of them.
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
He is such a sugar AI flowers.
It's adorable, oh my God.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
No, I didn't know, this poor man Matching white
hats?
Speaker 3 (12:33):
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
This is a get, tiger King's a get.
Tiger King is a get, I guess.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah, it's two of the most innocent crimes that you
could commit to be sentenced tohard time.
This guy, again, again, is justlike I didn't fill out the
paperwork, all right.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
And then you know, Tiger King is like you, have one
too many tigers in yourbackyard.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Right, oh, I threatened to kill this big
fucking chick that I hate, butnot even really I was just like
God.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
I wish he was dead.
And then one dude was like I'llkill her for you.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
And all of a sudden you're in a conspiracy to murder
.
Exactly so he says.
Meet my husband, jorge floresmaldonado.
Maldonado's new husband iscurrently serving time again
because of immigration issues.
Uh, exotic posted back inoctober that he was engaged.
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
So it's been going on for a while.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
He's there, in love it started in 2024 and it's
finalized in 2025.
It's insane.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean, it's just the kid.
Just, I would say.
The kid seems like he has thewhole world in front of him, but
how much time does he have?
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
He's got a whole Joe behind him.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Yes, that's what he's got.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
So right now they say that Joe says he's working on
getting Marquez asylum or we'llbe leaving America when we both
get out.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Well, yeah, lord knows, you need asylum too,
buddy.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yes.
In response, one social mediawished him good luck.
Maldonado said he has noproblem going to Mexico with his
new husband, if released.
So that would be nice.
You go to prison, come out witha husband, you end up in Mexico
and you just live your life theway you want to live it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
That is so wild.
It's just a love story.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It really is a love story.
So congratulations to TigerKing, joe Exotic and.
Jorge, I hope you guys have awonderful, wonderful life
together.
Yes, and just you know, ciao,maybe ciao together, yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
We'll be talking to him in the next month or two, oh
we're going to chat with himagain.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, we're chatting with him again.
We should just chat with himanyway.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Yeah, so we're going to catch up with him on death
and entertainment.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And we definitely have to know.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Well, we have to catch up with him on love and
entertainment.
That's right.
I agree with that.
I agree with that?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
Yep, I agree with that.
Good call, jerry.
I do want to know if they selltogether.
Sell what Sell Like see Likesell Sell ramen packets for
drugs.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Are they allowed to be like husbands, like oh well,
now that they're husband andhusband, you say obviously they
have to move into the same cell.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Well, just that's God's law.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I did watch an episode of Lock Up Indiana,
which, holy hell, I don't know.
What's going on in Indiana.
A lot of people in there formeth, sounds dark and a guy
finally got to be with hisbunkmate that he wanted.
It was a transgender gal, Isuppose, and they were just
having sex all day.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Wow, they loved it.
That sounds amazing.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, but then the guy was also like in here she's
a woman On the streets.
I like women, but then you knowit's all confusing, it's prison
.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
You know, if only prisoners were a little more
used to saying it's all just aspectrum man, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
I'm not sure if they've gotten that in their
liberal arts classes thatthey're forced to take All right
.
Well, speaking of prisoners,scott Peterson, did he kill
Lacey and the baby?
Yes, well, you guys agree withthe comment section on TMZ
agrees with you guys, because hedid.
But the Innocence Project sayshe didn't.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
The LA Innocence Project.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
The Los Angeles Innocence Project.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Okay, why does that change anything?
That's double A ball.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
No, it's not the Los Angeles Innocence Project.
That's creme of the creme, it'snot the Madison Wisconsin
Innocence Project.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
No, you never fucked that guy up.
Don't you think that would bemore innocent than the Los
Angeles Innocence Project?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Los Angeles.
All they do is deal withcriminals.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
All they're here to do is, yeah, to deal with the
Instagram-influencing criminals.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
According to the Los Angeles Innocence Project, they
say they have new evidence thatwill exonerate Scott Peterson,
the person that both of you guysare deeming a murderer.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
A 1.5 murderer?
Yeah, exactly because she waspregnant.
It's despicable, I think, damn,you really think he did not?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I have no idea.
All I know is the LA InnocenceProject filed a petition Friday.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Yeah, but they said we're going to come out.
They're always exaggeratingthat, though they never actually
have this incredible piece ofexonerating evidence.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
They do.
No, they don't.
Well, you're not letting mespeak it.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh, you know what it is.
Yes, okay, yeah, I'm speakingit, so say it.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
There was a burglary the day before at the neighbor's
house.
There was a busted up vanoutside of their home.
In that van was a mattresscovered in blood.
They never tested that bloodand they never even brought that
to the jury.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Why would they never test that blood?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Because they're all dumb and they saw Scott Peterson
banging this other broad andthey're like that guy is
definitely fucking guiltybecause he's banging this blonde
chick who was, like you know, acalifornia one in arizona 11.
And then, although chicks inarizona are beautiful, so maybe
flip it, but yeah, they nevercared because they thought it
was scott peterson from the get.
Yeah, so, according to multiplereports, scott's uh wife, lacey
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peterson she was again.
She was eight months pregnant.
She disappeared the eve of 2002.
You feel old, yet yeah.
Holy shit, yes, this baby couldfucking drink if it was alive,
oh shit.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, you're right, this baby would be an adult, oh
my.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
God.
Anyway, she was found in theSan Francisco Bay months later,
and then he became the primesuspect when it was revealed
that he had an affair with amassage therapist, which, yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Of course you have a.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's what a massage therapist is for.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
I don't know about love, I don't know about
marriage, but I would say, ifone of your significant others
is constantly going to a massagetherapist, they're getting
jerked or beamed, they'regetting flicked one way or
another.
Yeah, so cops arrested Scottottin april of 2003, ultimately
found guilty, but again, the newevidence was never brought to
(18:52):
light.
Lady, now they do, okay.
So there is this, all thecircumstantial evidence.
They call it uh-huh where it'slike, yeah, it was his old
swimming hole, yeah, and youknow, maybe fishing he was
fishing she was found in thewater.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
She was, uh, anchored down with concrete.
They found the concrete dustall over his boat.
He said he just happened to bemaking an anchor for his boat
with said concrete the day thatshe was killed, so he's fucked
yeah but then they're like hey,bloody mattress Over there.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
There's a bloody mattress over there.
Look.
The Innocence Project says Okay, okay, okay.
The Innocence Project sayspolice ignored a burglary at the
neighbor's house and burned outvan, again with blood-stained
mattresses inside, which they doclaim could be related to
Lacey's death.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
Mm-hmm, so we'll see what happens.
It could be he could have puther in that mattress.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, and you know what Peterson says, what it's
important to me that whoeverkilled my wife and son be found
and held accountable.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
Don't worry, we did.
I can't believe he's stillsaying that shit.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Is that something a murderer would say?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Yes, oj Simpson said it.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
He said I will not rest.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
In the eyes of the American legal system, he rested
very well.
Yeah, yeah, he did.
He's a thief, not a murderer.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
If whoever committed.
And then he says if whoevercommitted such violence against
Lacey and Connor is still atlarge, they are a danger to
public safety.
Because he cares about publicsafety, good thing.
And then he says it is alsoimportant to me that I clear my
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name and my family's namebecause I did not and could
never harm or kill my family.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Okay, sure, so he is um in prison right now, right,
oh, yeah, yeah, well, that'sgood yeah, he's the one that
getting.
He's getting into fightsplaying pickleball yeah, that's
so true he's getting intopickleball fights.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
I just think, isn't he just like us yeah just like
us.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
No, no, I'll get into a fight playing pickleball I've
never, I've never made anythingout of concrete, let alone a
fucking anchor yeah, I don'twhat do you mean?
I was just all.
I have all this random cementjust so that I can make an
anchor for my boat, and, whoops,a lot of it is attached to my
dead wife.
Never had had a wife, which isa problem I got to look inward
for.
But that's you know.
(21:11):
There's a lot of situationsthat I'm not.
And another thing these fuckingcops just do your job the right
way, so that way they don't getoff on technicalities being
like oh well, I guess we forgotto check the mattress, so all of
this is null and void, eventhough the fucking the dead wife
or the dead baby are not nulland voiding themselves.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Check the mattress in the fucking busted up van that
probably had a home invaderdriving it.
Yeah, so that's Mark Garagos.
Yeah, he's Scott's lawyer, whoI think was also OJ's lawyer.
Yeah, anyway, he says the caseagainst Peterson is an
abomination.
Speaker 3 (21:46):
An abomination, it's an abomination that sounds like
the checks are clearing for him.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
An abomination, it's an abomination that sounds like
the checks are clearing for him.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Yeah, basically, yeah , basically, that's exactly what
that sounds like.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
He's doing his job.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Well, I hope you guys are happy because everyone in
the comments section of this TMZarticle agrees with you.
So what good company you guyskeep.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Yeah, they caught him with like $15,000 cash and IDs
and a passport to go leave forMexico.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Yeah, Ben yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
So he could take his very innocent ass somewhere else
.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
What am I guilty of?
Eating a succulent Chinese meal?
Get your hands off my penis,Cantaman vacation.
Also, are you guys not the twothat want to suck the D's of the
Menendez brothers, who didworse than that after they
butchered their two parents?
Yes, granted, they wereprobably pedophiles.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yes, okay, yeah, I'm all for killing pedophiles.
Call me old-fashioned,old-fashioned.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Old-fashioned Jinx Nice.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
According to a comment and I rarely care about
these comments, but this mightbe interesting he says I lived
where the remains washed up.
We all knew we're sailors, sothat means they're gay.
They say the dude did not checkthe tides.
He would have gotten away withit if his newly acquired boat
with his homemade weights thathad her hair on them was out at
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the right time.
But it was not, so anyway,Anyway.
We'll keep you updated on whathappens with all that.
We'll see.
It doesn't seem as if he hasthe same public support as the
formerly mentioned Menendezbrothers.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
No, yeah, no, why would he?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
Also remember that guy who did the UnitedHealthcare
shooting.
The hot guy, yeah.
Remember the ugly guy, yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
No ugly guy.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Yeah, no, no one talks about him.
Not at all.
Isn't that funny?
I didn't care less.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
They're all going to treat me like.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Luigi Mangio.
How is he?
How is he?
How's my boy?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
He just made fruitless demands outside and
then got arrested.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Yeah, for real, it's just the weakest shit ever.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
All right, well, let's get to death news A
paranormal investigator known asthe real life Scully.
No, not from Monsters Inc.
Wow, From X-Files.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
That's Sully.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
What?
Oh, that's Sully.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
Yeah, I was like what Not to be confused with
Sullenberger yeah well, okay.
Who flew the plane into theHudson?
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Scully Sully.
That's who I was thinking about.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Scully Sully, I can't see the difference.
Hey, anyway, he died last month.
Oh no, yes, he's remembered asan icon and a hero within the
skeptical community.
The man's name was Joe Nickel.
He called himself the world'sonly full-time professional
paranormal investigator, and Ibelieve that Because there is
(24:31):
very little money in findingghosts, where is his?
Speaker 2 (24:33):
1099?
I want to see the paperworkthat clears him from being a
full-time paranormalinvestigator.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
There's no paperwork in Ghost Hunting.
It's all in business.
Never leave a paper trail.
He was known for digging intosome of the world's biggest
myths.
He was a skeptical inquirer.
Nicol had worked as a columnistfor decades.
He wrote articles about enigmas, including historical, forensic
and paranormal stories.
(25:02):
Yes, this is according to BarryCarr, the executive director of
the Committee for SkepticalInquiry, which that man spells,
there is a committee.
Yeah, he's dusty.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
It's very dusty.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Committee for.
So he has to stand before apanel of people that they can
accept.
They're like, all right, we seethat you wrote this article on
what you think might be outthere.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
I'm seeing a lot of tan and taupe.
Oh for sure, and they calledglasses spectacles.
Yes, and maybe there's amonocle involved.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
There could be a monocle.
Someone's got a cane.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Oh, someone has a cane.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Yeah, absolutely, but not ironically.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
No.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
They need it.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Oh, they're all feeble.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, at least three of them have some kind of
fibromyalgia, I mean and isn'tthat the biggest mystery of all?
Yes.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
So Barry Carr says Joe was a hands-on investigator
who could be found aboard theQueen Mary looking for alleged
ghosts.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
How do you make money being a ghost hunter?
Speaker 1 (26:02):
It's really hard.
You've got to write stuff andthen you've got to go to the
conventions and then you've gotto sign papers or autographs.
It just sucks.
Oh, then meet and greets, meetand greets, and then people will
be like I don't know if you'rereally right about the ghost of
the anal, whatever.
And then you have to be like,well, no, I queefed it out
myself, I'm pretty right, yeahand it's all real stupid and
people are smelly I see, yeah,oh, they are, which I don't like
(26:25):
it.
The ghost community yeah, whichis why I powder, I powder.
Also, I powder all over myhouse, so if there is a ghost In
my house, I'll be able to seeIts footprints.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Why would?
But if it's a ghost, don't theylike Not have feet?
Don't they like Fully dissolveFrom, like the knees down, and
they just float around?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Did you watch Paranormal?
Paranormal what was the name?
Speaker 2 (26:43):
of the.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Pertinomal activity.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
Because they have feet.
They have little feet.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
They have little feet yeah they wear little ghost
shoes.
As soon as you die, you have togo to the ghost shoe store and
they're like, well, Fuckingsucks.
First things first.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
If you're going to haunt a house.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
You want the right shoes.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
I'm still a size 14, huh.
Yeah, I guess I got a big oldghost bag, so he was looking for
ghosts at the Queen Mary.
He would also go to a farmer'sfield and investigate crop
circles.
He was also seen roaming theshores of the Loch Ness for
Nessie Seen.
He was seen.
He was seen roaming the shoresof Loch Ness looking for Nessie
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the big old thing.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Well, yeah, yeah, who isn't a ghost?
But?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
that's not a ghost.
No, he does everything you haveto.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
It's different income streams.
You got the cryptid groups.
You got the ghost groups.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
They all live under the same tent.
Yeah, come on now, literally inthe woods.
He also toured China, studyingtraditional Chinese medicine and
examining the claims of theQui-Gon masters.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Like Qui-Gon Jinn.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Yes, so he is getting laid all the time?
Oh, definitely, obviously.
And Barry says that barely evenscratches the surface of what
this guy has done.
Joe was a true polymath, whooften left you in awe of his
depth of knowledge in whatseemed to be a limitless number
(28:05):
of subjects.
Because you make it up.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
Yeah, honestly In awe .
Yeah, I would leave in awe.
I'd be like man.
This guy did not shut up aboutthat random fucking shelf that
he thought was a ghost for like25 minutes.
I am in utter awe and shockthat he had so much to keep
trying to filter into my brain.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is the obituary that
everybody wants.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
They say he was a walking and talking encyclopedia
with never-ending curiosity.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Aw.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
To know even more and bring on the next mystery.
So he is dead.
What a tremendous loss.
They say he can never bereplaced.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
So, thank you for what you did the skeptical
inquirer, mr Nickel.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yes, yes.
Us skeptics need people likeyou.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, but he did get into an argument with a lot of
people.
He says I'm tired of thesedebunkers coming to my office,
so people were kind of razzinghim.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Yeah, obviously yeah, it's not real.
For the last time I saw it.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
And you know what the debunkers would yell at him.
Hey Nickel, seen any ghostslately?
Har, har, har.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Nerd Give him a wedgie.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Oh my God, Imagine dealing with dumb shit like that
until you're very old age.
He's very old, you're like howthe fuck am I still going
through this?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
Like shut up up ghost dork.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
Right, he's like I'm 80 can I have
Speaker 1 (29:35):
some respect around here.
Yeah, yeah, he also listed morethan a thousand personas that
helped him with his job oh lord.
Do you know what those personas?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
are.
What do you mean?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
so he was.
He was a private investigator,a federal fugitive, a food
server, a magician.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Federal fugitive.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah, I don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I just want the government to just intersect
right now and just be like hewas never wanted by the FBI for
any federal reason whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Tommy Lee Jones chased him off a waterfall.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Nobody ever wanted him.
It was a one-armed man.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
The ghost arm.
He was also a magician, he wasa beer master and, most
importantly to me, a Bigfoothunter.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Oh, oh, my God.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
According to Kenny Biddle.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
I never caught you.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Mm-hmm.
According to Kenny Biddle, hesaid he didn't treat a ghost
story as a ghost story or a UFOstory as a UFO story, which I
don't know what that means.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
But he didn't.
They weren't stories to him,man, they were real life.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
Okay, so there you go .
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Rest in peace.
Speaker 1 (30:35):
Rest in peace, real life.
Scully Alright.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
He should be like here, haunting everyone.
That was like debunking him.
He should spend his entire lifejust haunting all those
motherfuckers.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
He knows now, doesn't he?
He knows the truth.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Now he knows, now he's like, wow, I was so wrong
about all of this.
Speaker 3 (30:53):
Yeah, they educate him on his ghost stereotypes.
Right, he's going to open.
You know he's going to startlearning.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Yeah, no, we don't talk to Mr Cortez over there.
He fought for the Confederacy.
It's all like political andshit, all right.
Well, speaking of concrete,this story is just really,
really shitty.
And it's another example.
I am all for rehabilitation,all for hey, you did your time,
(31:25):
come on out Work at the WaffleHouse.
Except for one group of people,and that is child sex offenders
.
It's just very difficult tooverlook that A grandmother took
a risk by hiring somebody tohelp her take care of her home.
That was a child sex offender.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Yes, it's very sad she was 82 years old.
I say was because she is dead.
She was found buried under ashed in concrete.
More developments have come out, oh my God.
They say that she was foundbound with Velcro straps and
(32:03):
beaten.
She wasn't just beaten, she wastortured with a nail gun.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Good God.
Okay, that's horrible, Right.
And also what an insult to bebound by Velcro.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
She's ew, that sucks.
Yeah, you're 82.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
It fucking sucks.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
You could technically come out of this.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Right.
Just put a rubber band aroundher arm.
She's like I can't stretchthese.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Like a lobster claws.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I mean it makes sense that a disgusting child
predator would go after an82-year-old as well, because
they're looking for people whoare weak.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Who are real.
That's probably something.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Young or old.
There's a Venn diagram ofvictimhood for these pieces of
trash, according to the ThurstonCounty coroner, gary Warnock.
He said it was the worst casehe's ever witnessed.
He says her onset from injuryto death was not instant.
It took hours.
That's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
She held on for a long time.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
She did.
You make it 82 years and youget fucking tortured by this
douche bag.
Yep, they say, we see andwitness things, and this
investigation is one you cannotunsee.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
That's crazy.
It sounds brutal.
Speaker 1 (33:10):
The name of the killer is her former handyman
and his name is Fun.
That's not his name, but hisname is Jeffrey Ziz, ah, ziz,
z-i-z-z, ziz, ziz.
That guy, remember Dr Zizmore.
No, a little bit the ads in NewYork City for the guy that
would get rid of all yourpimples.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he did do that.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Jeffrey Ziz.
He's 47.
He appeared in court.
He was arrested on suspicion ofmurder, kidnapping, and then
they always say you didn'tdispose of the body right, which
is the least worst of all thestuff.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Yeah, it's like you made a body.
You made a person a body.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yes, he is a child molesting veteran.
Do you thank him for yourservice?
Do you thank him for theservice Do?
Speaker 2 (33:57):
you thank him for the service and when you say child
molesting.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Was he a veteran of child molesting?
Speaker 1 (34:03):
That's what I mean.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well, I don't think you get a badge for that.
You don't get a badge, I think,when you're oh man, you know
I'm a veteran.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
There's not like a PFW, like a Pedophiles of
Foreign Wars.
Oh my God.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
Purple colon.
Speaker 1 (34:16):
Yeah, I just go down to the PFW, you know, bowl a
little bit With the guys.
You know, yeah, the guys.
He is a father of five.
He's being held without bail.
This woman, she was reportedmissing April 4th of this year
and, yeah, they've built thecase around Ziz.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, I can imagine his five kids don't want much to
do with him.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Probably not.
Yeah, probably not.
I mean, also, they have to livewith the last name Ziz.
That's terrible.
I mean it's cool.
If you're cool, I'm going toziz.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Yeah.
But if you're not cool, thenyou're just like they're like
hey ziz, how's your fuckingpants?
On your ankles.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
If you have bad acne, you're zitty ziz.
Yeah you know.
But if you're cool like, ifyou're like a middle linebacker
and you're like Frankie ziz,that's cool, I, that's cool I
guess, so it would be cool.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
I mean, you're kind of like a hate rapist.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
It's the Ziz Master that's it's not like the Ziz,
it's the Ziz Meister, ziz,meister man.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Ziz bro, ziz Zizki.
I like Ziz.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
Meister you don't like.
Ziz Meister.
No, I mean, he's one of thefriends that, like you, can't
bring.
Yeah, the handyman was the lastperson to see her alive after
she invited him over for dinner.
Oh, what a piece of garbage.
A search of Ziz's homeuncovered a five-page letter
(35:39):
which meticulously planned out aburglary and sexual assault of
a woman who was referred to ashis customer.
So he also made a five-pageletter talking about it.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
He likes them very young and very old.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
He doesn't like anybody.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
Yeah well, yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
He doesn't like anybody, but he does like to
write apparently he wrote fivepages, what?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
a fucking asshole.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
Five pages.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
What a dickhead.
Speaker 2 (36:06):
Did he like indent each paragraph?
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:10):
Why would you?
This reminds me of a littlepoem that I thought of Right.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
What?
Yeah, he was arrested.
Ziz was arrested in Missoula,montana.
He was initially interviewedbut became the suspect after he
falsely claimed he was home thenight.
She disappeared, but of coursehe was not.
So anyway, that's RIP.
Just be careful who you hire.
But you never know, because youwant to trust people.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, you don't want to be like.
This is a good thing that I'mdoing.
I don't want to.
You know they've rehabilitated.
They need a chance.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
And it's always such a shock when the person that you
trusted turns out to be amonster Like I've had this
experience in my real life whereI trusted somebody and then I
find out they want to kill mydogs and shit.
I'm like what the fuck is wrongwith these psychos.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Why would they want to kill your dog?
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Buddy, I don't know.
I haven't lost all faith inhumanity Because I keep it, but
I have to actively work at it.
I know I totally get people whoare just like God, I'm not
really with folk, I'm not reallyfeeling people right now.
I'm like I understand thatsucks.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
It's so frustrating.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
But I love it Actively trying to make people
happy.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
I love people, I hate people.
I love gatherings.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Mm-hmm, you know Well , speaking of people and, I
guess, sexual abuse, this is atoss-up story, so I want to talk
about this.
On last episode, we discussedhow some pedophiles are using AI
child porn.
Absolutely disgusting, right.
But now teenagers are using AIto create fake nudes of their
(37:38):
classmates.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
That's still child porn.
That's bullying too Harshlycyberbullying.
Speaker 3 (37:45):
Unless like, look fucking amazing in it.
You're like, oh, that's meputting saggy tits.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
You know they're putting saggy long nipples on
all of you right, that's true,and this is.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
You know, this is what happens.
These are teenagers doingteenager stuff.
Yeah, so I don't like, becausethere's some people in prison
for, like, sexting when theywere both 15.
I don't know, that's like aweird yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
To arrest like a 16-year-old on child pornography
charges and it's like come on,dude, it's just weird yeah.
It was like a 7th gradersending text to an 8th grader.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
But this is a case that is now new territory.
So teens are using AI and thenthey're creating very realistic
images naked images of theirclassmates.
It was on an app called NudifyNudify.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
Nudify.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
These are Nudify apps .
Speaker 2 (38:38):
That's a very specific app that was made for
this.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Who did this?
Who started this app?
Speaker 1 (38:44):
That's a good question.
Speaker 2 (38:46):
That's the problem, right there.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
That is a very good question, and you wonder if the
person who made this is likeuh-oh.
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Some guy that was sick of paying for OnlyFans.
I think, Dude, he's like.
I'll take a picture of myneighbor and see her naked.
Speaker 1 (38:59):
Is that real now that guys are doing OnlyFans but
covered up with AI to make themlook like women?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Oh, I mean, that probably is a.
Thing.
Oh yeah, that is a thing.
That is a thing, I guess youdon't know what's the difference
.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
And men, we should make money too.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
The men wealth gap on OnlyFans is real yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Men should go into female-dominated fields that are
trying to Take up space.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
Yes, fields that are trying to.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Take up space.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yes, yeah, and male-dominated fields.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
So it is a nudify app .
That's what they're beingdubbed.
All you have to do is take apicture, a headshot, put it into
the app and then the app islike this is what that dude
looks naked, looks like nakedbig old balls and shit, but to
your point, they are probablymaking them look worse than they
do or whatever.
(39:46):
I mean everyone.
I don't know, I don't want towhatever.
According to Don Austin,superintendent of the Palo Alto
Unified School District.
He says we're at a place nowwhere you can be doing nothing
and stories and pictures aboutyou are posted online.
They're fabricated, they'recompletely made up through ai
and it can have your voice, yourface.
(40:07):
It's a whole nother world.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
I hate that it's.
Speaker 1 (40:12):
It's crazy.
I hate that so much, but ifit's not really you, so I guess
it's.
The question is if it's notreally you right, and you know
it's not really you, buteveryone thinks it's you
perception is reality, I suppose.
So it might as well be you,yeah, and it's not really you
right, and you know it's notreally you, but everyone thinks
it's you.
Speaker 2 (40:24):
Perception is reality , I suppose so it might as well
be you, yeah, and it's not even.
I feel like even with teenagersit doesn't even have to be that
black and white where itimmediately has to automatically
look like them.
It could just be funny to belike I put Tanya's face on this
random body and they're like oh,that's stupid.
You put a differentskin-colored body on her head
because she's stupid, right, andthen it's all fake, but
(40:45):
everyone's laughing anyway.
And you're like oh, shut upguys, we all know that's not my
body.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
And they're like yeah , Then you've got to show us.
Then you've got to show us yourbody.
Make sure your clit doesn'tlook like that, because you're
stupid yeah so to your point,kyle.
last summer, a San Franciscocity's attorney's office they
sued 16 so-called nudifywebsites for allegedly violating
(41:10):
laws around child exploitationthose sites.
In the first half of 2023,guess how many visits those
sites got?
Oh boy, I don't even want toknow.
Oh, a million, 200 million.
Jesus Christ, there's only like300 million people in this
country.
What the fuck.
So like?
I guess it's international, butthat's a lot right, that's a
lot.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
I mean, yeah, it sucks, because it's like maybe
they had good intentions withthis app, maybe they were like
yeah, what, what, what.
I want to have a crush onsomeone and have some private
time in my fantasies aboutthings without actually going to
that person, stalking them,taking photos, and I'm just
going to keep this littlesituation in my brain me myself
(41:52):
and the tissue box.
Speaker 3 (41:54):
No, or they're doing it for themselves.
If you're trying to courtsomeone, you're like oh, this is
what I look like, naked.
Speaker 2 (42:01):
That could also be.
Oh well, that's bad, becausethen that's catfishing now.
Speaker 3 (42:04):
Oh yeah, absolutely, but people do it all the time.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
Yeah, so it's a catfishing act, and of course
you catch a catfish by puttingyour hand right in the water and
the catfish bites you.
Speaker 3 (42:14):
My guess is that it's a weaponized catfish situation
here.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Yeah, he's probably right about that.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Minnesota is the first state to try to pass
legislation to hold thesecompanies accountable.
However, it's extremelydifficult because, again, these
companies move very fast.
They say this causes extremeharm.
They say kids these days willupload maybe a headshot of
another kid at school and theapp will recreate the body of
that person as if they are nude.
(42:40):
This causes extreme harm tothat kid that might be in the
photo, and especially theirfriends, as well as the whole
family, which I mean.
That would be awkward.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Yep, pretty messed up to have to stand there and
explain.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, so be careful Before you give your kids a
phone, make sure you have thisdiscussion.
You want to have a discussionwith them.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
You want to have a discussion about, like what apps
?
Yeah, what apps?
I mean, there's so much youhave to talk about with kids
these days.
When it comes to these phones,they all just have not only
better access but a betterunderstanding because they grew
up with it.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yeah, they're all smart.
They're so much smarter than us.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah, they know how to do this with one hand while
they're not paying attention inclass.
Speaker 1 (43:19):
I know.
Then you take a picture of theteacher.
Ooh, we had a teacher, MrsHarrison.
She went to go be a model inChicago.
What Wish I had that AI app.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Oh wow, that would have been awesome.
Speaker 1 (43:30):
My friend Matt.
Accidentally he was going toswing his arm around, probably
trying to hit me or something,but he accidentally touched her
vagina, oh, wow.
Oh, my God yeah we talked aboutit at recess about it at recess
.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I hate that so much.
We were in sixth grade Fuckingweirdo, never washing this hand
again.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
We were in sixth grade, mrs Harrison.
She was a banger, she was superhot, super cute.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
She sounds great.
She sounds like she was alittle bit assaulted by some
fucking.
Speaker 1 (43:52):
No, it was an accident.
Speaker 2 (43:54):
Fucking A.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
It was an accident Alright.
Well, just lastly, you knowthat story about Madeline McCann
.
Yeah, this is a baby.
She went missing a couple ofyears ago.
Yeah, it's British.
So the McCanns, this story waseverywhere right, and everyone's
like you killed your babyparents.
And the parents are like wedidn't kill our baby, we loved
our baby.
Yada, yada, yada.
I think they ended up.
(44:16):
They were never charged withanything and someone did steal
the baby with anything.
And someone did steal the baby.
I don't think they've everfound out who did it, but making
their lives even worse.
There is a woman who isclaiming to be Madeline McCann
and now she has pleaded notguilty to stalking the missing
toddler's parents and theirsiblings by turning up at their
home.
Oh my God, doesn't that suck.
(44:36):
So she's like I'm your deaddaughter and they're like no, oh
my God.
Our daughter is definitely deadand you are like, really ugly,
she's not like as cute asmadeline mccann, so they're you
know, I think they're also like,like, even if it really was
their daughter, they'd be likeyou know what our?
Daughter's dead.
Get out of here it wouldtotally suck if that was
actually her right and she'd belike why don't you love me like
(44:57):
you're not our?
Speaker 3 (44:57):
daughter, you're an imposter because we know we
killed her Right.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
Oh my god, that'd be a what if we didn't actually
bury the body?
Oh shit.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
I told you to make sure the pulse was fucking not
there anymore.
She's back.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
She wants revenge.
Oh god, and apparently she'sfrom Poland.
She's.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Polish.
Speaker 1 (45:20):
She's 23.
She appeared in the courts ofLeicester Crown Court and she
was like I am not guilty, butshe allegedly had unwanted
contact with the McCanns,turning up with their addresses,
and then she sent them lettersand WhatsApp messages and so she
really got obsessed and soshe's being charged with
stalking.
And then she's also stalkingMadeline's brother, sean, who
(45:43):
was just like, can I just not dothis?
All the time, damn.
And she denied causing seriousharm or distress from May 3,
2024 and February 21 of thisyear.
So she's been on it for a while.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Oh, yep, so now she's in custody.
She must really think she iswho she says she is.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
She's in custody, so now she's happy custody.
She must really think she iswho she says she is.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
She's in custody.
So now she's happy that someonehas custody of her because
she's been looking for it Isn'tthat nice, it's heartwarming
really.
Yep.
She also has an Instagramhandle at.
I am Madeline McCann.
Speaker 3 (46:15):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (46:15):
God.
That's crazy so you want togive her a follow?
Speaker 2 (46:19):
I don't know, man, there's something about this
that's not sitting right with me.
This could really be her.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
She had previously shared a DNA test which shows
she's 100% Polish.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Oh, you never want to be 100% Polish.
What does that have to do withanything?
It's stupid.
Speaker 1 (46:32):
She can't be Madeleine McCann, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Her parents aren't Polish.
Speaker 1 (46:36):
Wow, yeah, oh there you go Between the Russians and
the Polish.
You don't want to adopt fromeither country.
Speaker 3 (46:43):
Yeah, you really don't.
Lots of duds.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
They don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
They just don't know that they're Just like a big
brute fucking bear.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
I mean, man, I guess it depends what you're trying to
get.
I mean, it's weird when youcall it casting, not adopting.
Yeah, so she posted her DNAresults and then everyone's like
, yeah, you're not our daughter,so now she's going to kind of
go to jail.
And I don't know, if I was herparents I'd be like, well, I
guess we did a horrible jobbecause she wants to be this
dead girl now.
Well, that's that update, allright any comments Okay.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
Vanessa said there was an SVU episode like that A
girl pretended to be thiscouple's missing child.
Turns out the sister actuallykilled her and the mother
covered it up, so they knew thatshe was not the daughter they
couldn't say how much they knewshe wasn't it.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
No, there's no way I killed that.
Oh wait, no, no, no, you're it.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, I mean, I've been looking for her everywhere.
Speaker 3 (47:39):
Lori's saying all they need is the DNA to figure
that one out.
I mean, that's pretty pointblank, it's true?
Speaker 1 (47:44):
Well, yeah, that's what they did and she's Polish,
which you don't need to do DNAtesting to figure if someone's
Polish, you just see.
Oh yeah, but a screen door anda submarine.
There's a lot of Polish-likejokes because they're all dumb.
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (47:57):
Vanessa's saying kids are assholes.
They're going to use that tobully the shit out of some poor
kid who's already going throughit, which that's what happens.
Speaker 1 (48:04):
Kids pile on, but you know what I would do, though,
if I was that kid I'd AI myself,make myself look fucking
shredded.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
Greek God Exactly.
Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yep.
I'd be like Joe's on you,because that is my body.
That's what I look like underthis shirt.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
And everybody is saying OJ Simpson and Scott
Peterson are guilty Ben.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
Everybody.
Well, you better agree with thecrowd.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
Yeah, you better Just ask.
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Jesus of Nazareth, I'm crying.
Speaker 2 (48:32):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Jesus was killed for sticking up for OJ Simpson.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
Did the glove fit on Jesus' hand, then you gotta
acquit him.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
It was nailed to a cross, the cross fit though.
Speaker 3 (48:45):
Oh nice, yeah, cross fit, all right, everyone.
Well, thank you, I got to goexercise and do some cross fit.
Speaker 2 (48:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (48:51):
Thank you all so much for listening.
We'll be back on Thursday.
Also, again, check out the OKBud YouTube, because I think
we're going to.
Let's keep.
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