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We sit down with Ryan from Flat Top Noob YouTube channel to explore his journey from cooking smash burgers to building a welcoming community around griddle cooking.

• Ryan's channel began when his parents gifted him a Blackstone griddle as thanks for wiring their houses
• His signature "welcome, welcome, welcome" catchphrase came from a happy accident during his first video
• The "Refurbished Turd" series shows viewers how to restore neglected flat tops rather than buying expensive new ones
• Unlike his tech-focused channel, Ryan found the outdoor cooking community exceptionally supportive and welcoming
• Cast iron pizzas rank as Ryan's second favorite cook, recreating the classic Pizza Hut experience from decades ago
• Ryan's background in film and tech gives him strong editing skills, though he emphasizes authenticity over perfection
• The flat top community has connected Ryan with other creators like Doug and Rob, leading to friendships and collaborations

Check out the Flat Top Noob channel for entertaining cooks, griddle restorations, and Ryan's unique blend of humor and practical cooking advice https://www.youtube.com/@TheFlatTopNOOB


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, what's up everybody.
Welcome back to the OkieSmokin' podcast.
I'm John and, of course,joining me as always, dolores.
Today we got a very specialguest for episode 45, ryan from
the Flat Top Noob YouTubechannel, and he's been firing up
some awesome cooks and evenbringing beat-up flat tops back

(00:20):
to life.
We're gonna be talking somefood, youtube, flat tops and
having some fun, so let's get itrolling and let's cue that
intro.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Time to fire up that grill.
From smoked pork to smashburgers, outdoor cooking just
tastes better.
This is the Okie Smokin'Podcast, and here's your host,
John Barry.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
All right, we're back , Ryan.
Welcome to the show man,Excited to have you here.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah, I'm excited to be here.
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Before we get too far , heard you were cooking some
fajitas today.
How'd those turn out, man?

Speaker 3 (01:04):
Oh boy, I'll tell you tomorrow after they come out.
They were, they were.
They were awesome, though, man,I ate six of them.
If I had more, I'd probably eatmore, and then I probably
wouldn't have made it down here,so it's probably a good thing,
yeah you're making me hungry,you're getting hungry over there
, dolores right, we haven't atedinner yet oh I'm sorry.

(01:25):
I always have to feed the wifebefore we do this stuff, make
sure she's happy.
So I do most of cooking in thehouse, so therefore you know I
was off today.
She worked today, so thereforeit was my chore, so I'm good all
right, well, to kick things off.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
So what was the?
Uh?
Do you remember the very firstthing you cooked on a flat top?

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, it was the smash burgers always, yeah, so I
mean, that was one of thebiggest, biggest reasons to get
one of those flat tops.
So we do a lot of cruises, okay.
So we've gone on severalcarnival cruises and the thing
about carnival cruises is theyhave Guy's Burgers.
So if you guys don't know GuyFarrar, they do the Guy's

(02:06):
Burgers, so they're smashburgers.
So I wanted to recreate that.
So here I am with one of thoselittle electric skillet griddles
at home.
That doesn't work very well,right?
So when I finally got thatthing, I was like, all right,
finally I get to make smashburgers.
So I think I used I think, thefirst ones I did, I used the

(02:27):
pretzel buns.
So but then lettuce, tomato,onion, whatever you know, all
your, all your fixings.
So but yeah, smashburgers isprobably the best thing.
On.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, we had some last night actually when no, I
had them, I had the smashedburger.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
I did see your coleslaw smashed burger.
You did that about a year ago.
That thing looked prettyawesome.
I'm not lying and I've got onein mind that I'm about to do.
So keep an eye out on that one,doug and the boys.
We were talking about me doingone of those, so I've got an
idea for one, so just keep aneye out on that one.

(03:11):
It'll be on the VIVOR, so thatVIVOR makes the best Smashburger
.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
For anyone that may not know your channel how do you
describe Flat Top?
No top new.
What's your channel all about?

Speaker 3 (03:27):
um, well, the premise was the the.
When it first started out, thepremise was I didn't know
nothing about it and I'm one ofthose guys I don't care how I
look I'll fall and ask somebodyif they videoed it or not so I
can get it.
So I really could care less ifI look like a fool.
But when I first started Iwanted to show the people that

(03:50):
hey, everybody starts somewhere,so don't be embarrassed to ask
questions.
As it progressed I was a prettyquick learner on it.
So you've mentioned earlierabout basically that series.
I did last year the refurbishedturd where I restored a lot of
those things.
So when I did that one, I kindof was showing people, if you

(04:14):
don't have a lot of money to gobuy one, you can find these used
on Marketplace and just restorethem yourself and not have to
spend a lot of money.
I'm about I'm not a minimalist,but I'm about finding the
cheapest but the good stuff.
You know, try, try, try to savemoney where you can.
You don't have to go the campchef, I have that smoker.

(04:34):
I bought that thing.
You know that is $800 smoker,but I've got 175 bucks.
Then that's.
That was a premise, my firststart it was.
You don't have to go spend allthis money just to get what you
want, you know.
But I guess here lately it'smore entertainment purposes if

(04:55):
you've noticed there's morejoking but showing you I'm
cooking food and just make youhungry.
I'm not the king, I'm not theflat top king, I'm the flat top
noob and we're probably going tostay in that way well, one of
the things you always say whenyou walk right out on your
channel or in the beginningsthat welcome, welcome, welcome.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Can you hit us with that?

Speaker 3 (05:19):
welcome, welcome, welcome to the flat top Noob.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
There it is.
I love that.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Yeah, that was so the very first video I made.
There was probably seven oreight intros and, believe it or
not, and I've got a footage ofit.
I don't know if it'll ever getreleased or not, but when I was
coming down the stairs into thatdirty-ass garage I got, I fell

(05:49):
and it took me a while and I wassitting on the couch and I was
mad and I was like you know whatthat all just sounds like
garbage.
It's like you know, I'm theFlat Top Noob.
It's a new channel.
I want people to feel welcome.
They're like, welcome, welcome,and it just flows right off the
top, right.
And I did do a video and a poll.

(06:10):
I was like, should I keep it orshould I not?
And people seem to like it.
I think it's become a staple ofmine and if you've noticed on
the live show, it just shows upthere.
It just shows up there.
I'm kind of happy and pleasedwith the happy accident that the

(06:32):
welcome, welcome, welcome comesinto play and to me, I want
people to feel inviting into thechannel.
Well, nothing says invitationand welcome, right.
So it's just kind of stuck andit's there.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, I know I agree.
I say stick with it.
As a matter of fact, I've gotto be honest.
I was doing a video.
I've done it a couple times andI'll be sitting there.
In the beginning I'll gowelcome, welcome.
I say no, I can't say that.
I'm still in Ryan Noob's sprays.
I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, so it's a good catchphrase and I think if
anybody knows who I am,hopefully it'll be that welcome,
welcome, welcome, because thiswill be synonymous Luke
Skywalker in Star Wars.
Welcome, welcome, welcome is me.
So that was a happy accident IfI never fell.

(07:26):
If I didn't fall in that veryfirst video, I probably would
have never come to light.
So it's one of those things?

Speaker 1 (07:29):
And what's one of the favorite parts, do you think of
running the channel, thecooking or the community?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
The editing.
The editing, I mean thecommunity is.
I'll be honest with you, thecommunity on this side, versus
the other channel I have, is somuch better.
It's, it's, it's so inviting,it's, it's, it's a breath of
fresh air.
Um, there's, you know, there'stimes on the other channel where

(07:54):
I get, uh, I call it YouTubefatigue, but it's more.
You're just alone, you know,and and and this community is I.
I mean the process of editing.
I love editing, but as far as,like, the community, like you
said, this by far probably is agreat community.
I don't think I could have everasked for a better one.

(08:16):
You know, we've got a wholebunch of friends here now.
I mean, I met I don't know ifyou know how I met Doug.
So I've been watching the FlatTop King and I've been talking
to him since he started hischannel and he was actually the
Charcoal King and all that stuff.
And the Flat Top King has aFacebook page you know the

(08:37):
griddle page or whatever andbefore he locked it all down, I
mentioned something about mychannel and all that stuff on
there and then Doug actuallyresponded hey, you got a channel
, what's your channel?
And then he saw the St LouisBlues hat and realized that I
was in St Louis and he messagedme and we started talking.

(08:58):
Hell man, I think.
We talked for two or threehours on the phone one night and
he talked about his computerand wanting to build one, and
then he knew rob, and it justkind of morphed from there.
You know, and uh, I mean a lotof these guys I know, even even
even you john was from from robor doug, you know, uh, the well,

(09:19):
the welcome, welcome, welcomeis almost.
You know how I, how I feel witheverybody that's brought me
into the community.
I mean, I'm sitting there at270 subs and there's a lot of
people that have a lot more thanI do, but they're just more
welcome.
I mean, it's great, even ifnothing transpires.

(09:42):
Through this whole thing I'vegained a whole bunch of good
friends.
You know, I really have.
I'm really upset because wetalked, I listened to that live
show, we did.
You know, on the tech side,vegas has CES and right after
that they have World of Concreteand then after that they have
some kind of Comic-Con stuff orwhat have you.

(10:04):
They don't have nothing for usas griddles or grills or
anything you know, to gettogether in one spot and you
know, just talk and then seewhat's coming out.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
kind of weird, unless there's something I'm missing
no, I think you're spot on andthat's one of my favorite things
about it, like you said,because I have a swimming pool
channel, you have a tech channeland, uh, the pool channel has
over 3 000 subs and I have Idon't think I have one full
channel, friend.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, you know.
No, you're, you're, you'reright.
And on the tech channel I'vetried to reach out to small
creators and they don't want not, they don't want nothing to do
with you.
It's like man.
So I'm like all right, it'slike they think that you're
trying to take away their subsor something.

(10:57):
I just want to have some kindof you know, because I do this
by myself a lot of times.
You see RJ in there, but forthe most part I'm by myself.
You know, it is kind of nice tohave somebody, especially when
I got an idea to bouncesomething off of somebody, you
know.
Or if you just tell me it's acrappy idea, I won't do it, then

(11:21):
you know.
But the White Castle, the WhiteCastle stuff.
You see me and Doug argue aboutthat one.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
I did.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
So you know that makes fun.
That makes fun entertainmentcontent too, you know.
But we know each other's jokingaround.
You know me, rob and Doug, Ithink, are pretty tight and
close.
You know I'm not trying to takenothing away from anybody else.
It's just the three of us and Ialways joke around how they

(11:51):
started the live show.
It was their idea andeverything it was my idea.
You know I did put it alltogether and I reached out.
I'm the one that reaches out toeverybody to get on and like
we've a big Lou coming on thisweekend, you know Sunday night,
so that's, that's prettyexciting too.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
So yeah, no, I think you'll have a real good uh
chemistry and I I think it's agreat y'all do great together
with it.
And Rob was from poor guyoutdoor cooking was I think he
was probably one of the firstones that ever reached out to me
and Mile High Guy Barbecue.
And that's when I was maybe acouple hundred subscribers or

(12:34):
less, and that's when I reallyand, to be honest, I think
that's why I kept going on,because it was like cool and
people started to reach out andthings like that.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
And that helps.
That really helps.
Like my, my tech channel isgrowing, is growing slow.
I started that in 2020, notbecause of the pandemic, because
of other reasons, but um, uh,it's like I said before.
There's such a thing as youtubefatigue and and you do it

(13:05):
constantly, day in and day out.
You just try, you grind, yougrind.
You're like cool, I got one onesubscriber.
Cool, I've got three views.
But it's like you know, after awhile it's like you start to
get discouraged and you're like,well, what am I doing?
But then something kicks in.
That one comment or that onelittle spark is like OK, maybe

(13:30):
I'm OK, you know it's, andthat's some people don't talk
about.
It really isn't.
You know, if you noticed onthis channel, if you go back to
my first video and you go backand you actually watch the first
video from Rhino Tech the techchannel, you'll go back to my
first video and you go back andyou actually watch the first
video from Rhino Tech, the techchannel, you'll see night and
day.
I came into this channel with alot of knowledge that I didn't

(13:55):
have, you know, when I startedthe other channel and I think
you need to have that when youstart the channels to grow.
It's just fortunate enough forme.
I was able to have a little bitof a step up I'm looking at
your first one on this one.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
It's called should loads, assemble your new riddles
that sound like your firstvideo that was my first video.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, so did.
Did you guys ever hear thestory of how I got that griddle?
I don't believe I did so I waslooking at, I'm looking, I'm
looking at them, but me, as as Iam, I, you know I'm like, okay,
I'm gonna go buy one.
And then, all right, this ismore important.
All right, this is moreimportant.
Well, my parents had bought,had built two houses in the in

(14:44):
the course of about three and ahalf years.
Well, me being a low voltageguy and a networking guy, and
all that, I wired up their firsthouse.
I refused to take any money.
I refused, you know, becauseit's just family, I don't do
that.
That's just not how we werebrought up.
I just I'm going to go wireyour house and get everything
the way it's supposed to be, andthen we move on.

(15:05):
Well, then they built theirsecond house and I did the same
thing.
Well, my mom's like I need togive you some money.
I was like I don't want nomoney, it's just the way it is.
So they hoodwinked me.
They found a workaround.
They show up one day with thatblack stone.
I can't tell you to take itback, I can give you your money

(15:27):
back.
I can't tell you to take backthe blackstone.
I was like, well, crap.
My wife's like, just take it,it'll make them feel good, just
take it.
I'm like, all right.
And that's where they hadLowe's assemble it and all that
stuff.
I was like, well, I might aswell just make a video on should
those to symbol it.
Now there was some little flawshere and there with it but you

(15:52):
know, it made for a good firstvideo and it just snowballed
from there, you know, and Inever had gas anything.
So I never had a gas grill.
I always used charcoal.
I don't like gas, you know asfar as what the grill's
concerned.
So I did a follow-up video onhow to set, you know, hook up
your your gas and all that stuff.
And I'm a noob, and if you're anoob to it, there's people out

(16:14):
there that don't know how youknow.
So we're learning together.
And that's where the back, thepremise of the channel, started
at, you know, and it justprogressed from there.
So I don't know, I'm happy withit.
It was just 270 subs in twoyears.
I think it's more.

(16:35):
I do it more now because thefriendship I have with you know,
doug and Rob, and in thecommunity that I've met through
them, it's like you got to havesomething to keep yourself out
of trouble.
But I found ways to balancework life, and this you know.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
Yeah, that's key too.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Right, and you know RJ's in baseball, so like we've
got baseball games you knowMonday and Tuesdays and
Wednesdays and practice.
And then I got you know I workfour tens or better, and so
Friday, saturday, sunday is whenI'm off, so I cram a lot of
stuff in three days.
So that video I did today, Ifilmed it, edited it and posted

(17:22):
it all today.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Yeah, I've done that a time or two day.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
I filmed it, edited and posted it all today.
Yeah, I've done that a time ortwo, but, but, uh, but the
cooking videos are a lot easierto edit than the text videos are
, because sometimes on the techside of things, you got to make
sure that you're absolutelycorrect on what you're saying,
because you can't be wrong on it, or else, for one, you're going
to get a lot of slack.
For two, you're going to get alot of slack.
For two, you're gonna get a lotof people pissed at you.
And for three, you know, youjust don't want to be that guy.

(17:49):
So there's a little bit moreattention to detail, if you will
on that side of things I, I canrelate just like we're talking
about.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You say something and some cool guy come, come on
here.
What are you doing?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
It's not the right way, it feels more like a grind
and this is just fun.
The tech stuff I enjoy and I'vegot a lot of computers here and
I've got a lot of that and thisand the other but it's
something I've always liked.
I've always been into it sinceI was a kid.
I know I was unscrambling cableTV channels when I was a kid,

(18:29):
you know.
You know the smut channels thatyou see a thingy on there.
It's like, okay, I want to seethat.
So I figured out the frequencythat they would scramble it on
and inject that frequency tomake it clear.
But I was doing that since Iwas like 10, 11 years old.
You know it's like it's justwhat it is, it's in my blood

(18:49):
I've got a little bit of thattoo, wouldn't you say?

Speaker 1 (18:53):
because, uh, creating stuff has always been something
I've enjoyed.
And this is actually my thirdyoutube channel my first one I
pretty much have shut downbecause of similar to what
you're talking about.
It almost hit 10,000subscribers, one of the most

(19:13):
successful channels I ever hadAbout five plus years ago.
I don't know if you ever heardof a program called Cody Well, I
created video after video aftervideo with my computer.
Oh, how do you get the latestmovies?
Go to it would sit there andpeople would watch that, watch
that, watch that.

(19:33):
And then I started how do youget some IPTV, get pay-per-view?
So I wasn't really doinganything, I wasn't in my opinion
, I was just showing how to doit.
Huh, then it.
I started getting a little bitof warnings and copyrights and I
and stuff, and, and my channelgot demonetized and everything,

(19:57):
and I said okay, so that thatfell apart yeah and like, like
you got the jailbreak, thejailbreak fire sticks.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
But the thing and I'll go on service calls at work
over there.
We just had one the other daywith that Cody, okay.
So they're complaining becauseit don't work.
But what people don't realizeis so back in the old days we
used to use BearShare, winmx,napster was the popular, what

(20:26):
everybody knew about, right, butyou could download movies,
music, software, anything onthere.
So when this cody stuff, whenthe streaming came along where
you could actually stream videosand stuff, cody and some of
these other third-partyplatforms basically all cody is
your computer, my computerlinked up to some network, and

(20:47):
maybe I might be watching youknow Best Times at Ridgemont
High on my computer.
But I'm uploading it from yourcomputer, right?
It's not on somebody's serverlike Netflix and Hulu and stuff.
So it might not be in greatcondition.
If your upload speed sucks atyour house when you're uploading

(21:08):
that stuff to my computer, it'snot going to play very well and
people say, well, cody's notillegal because you're not
downloading it.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
You're streaming.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Somebody's got something somewhere that they're
not supposed to have.
You know what I mean.
And we used to argue and fightover okay, well, what if I go
and buy a shirt from walmart andjeff borrows, is walmart going
to come and say, hey, you can'tdo that?
So that was our rational, right, right, our.
Our way of rationalizing whatwe were doing was wrong.

(21:41):
But you, you know Premiere Pro.
Back then you had to buy thesoftware.
It wasn't a subscription-basedlike it is now, because the
Internet wasn't fast enough, butit was also about $4,000 or
$5,000.
Well hell, I didn't have thatkind of money at 22 years old
because I was making short filmsand stuff and I needed that
software.
So guess what I did, or Ididn't do it.

(22:03):
I don't want to incriminatemyself.
Maybe Statue of Libertations ispast.
Download that software.
You get the GenKey, the keygenerator.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
Yeah, those key generators were big back then.

Speaker 3 (22:20):
Uh-huh, oh, and then my buddy, my buddy Dave, he got
a letter from the FCC because hewas, and I told him you're a
dummy, he was programming thefootball cards for DirecTV and
you know, selling them for $150on Craigslist and online and
stuff was.

(22:41):
And I told him, you can't dothat, but he would run it, he
would run, he would run thatthrough his computer onto the,
onto the box and then, and then,like he throws a fight on or
something he was wanting towatch, so he, just he, he ran it
, he ran it live, hardwired, andthat's how he got caught.

(23:01):
Because they could, they bought,they found it, they monitored,
they pinpointed where, where hewas, the ip address he was
coming from, and and he got anice little letter from the fcc
and I told him, I said you knowthat's why, uh, you know, uh, oj
simpson didn't go to jail for,for, for his ex-wife, but he
sure as hell went to jail forfreaking football cards, you

(23:24):
know.
So it's just, it's just what itwas.
I mean, the kids today don'tunderstand what we went through.
You know, back and back backwhenever this stuff first
started coming out and ourgeneration we talked about.
You're a couple years youngerthan me, but our generation kind
of pretty much.
Well, put the, put the theforefront of what's going on

(23:45):
today.
They don't realize it.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
You're talking about them, scramblers.
They used to have specific adsthat would list a phone number.
But only if you had one wouldyou get that ad.
So they always said don't callany commercial, because you
would call that and they wouldsay oh, he saw the ad, you know
what he's using.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Uh huh yeah, yep, there was a lot of ways.
There was a lot in direct tvused to, once a year, used to
send something down to all thereceivers and do a.
There's a piece of software andwhat would fry those football
cards and you would have to getstuck trying to scramble to find
something.
You know, another one somewhere, so it's just what it is.

(24:32):
I mean, nowadays, betweenyoutube and all this other stuff
, I mean you almost don't reallyneed to do any of that.
You know, and these kids.
These kids, like you and me, weprobably we couldn't wait to
see the next movie or tv show orwhat they're on tiktok and
youtube and they're the stuffthat's you know out now.

(24:52):
They don't care less aboutfreaking and or freaking
mandalorian or whatever else isis coming out you know, right,
it's all youtube free tv yeah,that that All that stuff is made
by our generation, created forour generation and sold by our
generation.

(25:14):
When Generation X goes away, theworld will never be the same
again, you know.
So it's what it is.
But you know, my kids we got.
I think our oldest is 27 andour youngest is 13.
So there's a wide array of youknow what each one of them got

(25:36):
to see.
And then you know, this one gotme as a dad, but this one has
the older dad, so it's different, you know.
So you know the younger me wasbusting his hump, trying to keep
a roof over your head and foodin your mouth and all that stuff
.
And the older me is like screwyou guys, I'm going to go do my

(25:59):
kid's game.
You know I miss too much of theother one.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
So it's what it is yeah, you know you've gone a
long ways.
And old, when my grandson,who's 10, he saw a big record,
remember that he's like wow,that's the biggest game CD.
He thought it was a.
You know like how do you putthat in a playstation, because
he'd never seen nothing likethat yeah, my daughter was the

(26:25):
same way.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
She's like that's a big CD.
Dad, I got a lot of old LPs.
I got old Run DMC and I got oldthe first Eat Me Beastie Boys
Beastie Boys album.
I call it the Eat Me albumbecause it's got the plane and

(26:46):
it's got Eat Me writtenbackwards and the three and the
A.
They never made no money onthat album, by the way, if you
know that or not, but there's awhole bunch of albums.
I got Guns N' Roses in there.
I got old Michael JacksonThriller albums, but she just
thought it was a big CD.
She didn't know that was mydaughter.
So our oldest granddaughter issix, five, six, six and my

(27:11):
grandson's four.
So they're going to be.
Yeah, they're still little.
They're still little, butthat's fine, that's fine.
I got siblings that are stillmaking babies.
So my sister just had anotherone.
I'm like man, I'm havinggrandbabies and they're still

(27:32):
out there getting trophies.
I don't know, I don't want nomore trophies.
I got enough trophies.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Got enough trophies.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Well, my cousin calls them another word before that,
I'll be nice.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
It starts with an F and then trophies, so I'm sure
your listeners can decipher thatone so well, ryan, before we
switch gears, uh, I've starteddoing some live cooks and I

(28:08):
remember on your live show yousaid recently that live cooks is
something you would like to do.
Is that something you uhthinking about doing or setting
up?
You know, maybe doing the cooklive.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
If you burn it, it's live you know, I, I, I have, um,
I've got.
I mean looking at puttingtogether a small PC that I can
just carry Because, like so, ifyou guys don't know, if you're
not monetized or if you don'thave the thousand subscribers
and what have you, they won'tlet you go live on your phone.

(28:39):
You have to go live through aPC.
You have to go live through aPC.
So, with that being said,anything I do live has to go
through a computer.
I don't have a laptop.
So what I've done was you sawthe big camera I have, you know
the one I use for everything.
It looks like a big cinematiccamera.

(29:01):
So I bought some wireless HDMIthings.
So you got a receiver and atransmitter and it can go to the
computer through the capturecard and I can do it that way.
So I just need to build me asmall computer to just bring
upstairs with me with a smallmonitor and then that wireless
on that camera.
I can, you know, I'll get myson, I can get my son to just do

(29:22):
the camera work while I do thatand then, hopefully, I can get
that worked out.
I would like to do a live cook.
I just don't want to do itdownstairs in the basement with
all this technology, all thiscomputer stuff.
I don't want grease everywhereand I wouldn't mind just doing
it outside.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Just go outside and do it.
Yeah, that's how I like it.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
I like to go outside.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
We're on a laptop.
Let's plug the power right now,but I'll take it out there and,
uh, plug it up to the extensioncord and have a couple of
cameras and I just think it'spretty, pretty cool and if you
go live, I never want to jump onI'd go live with you, we'd cook
one yeah cool yeah, well, I I'dget marcus to do the camera
work and then if I could figureout a way to set up, like, uh,

(30:10):
another camera, uh, just like astationary one that you could go
back and forth to, or justsmall on the screen, that would
probably work too.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
Like you were saying, you thought you were at a big
screen and it wasn't a bigscreen.

Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, I'm using riverside, which is not, and I
thought about maybe I'll userestream because they got a free
version anyway, and uh, so Ithink what it's doing is what
I'm looking at.
Was it thinks I'm looking likeI'm looking at them to be
watched at me, not me looking,you know it's.

(30:48):
So what I got to do is I've gota second little computers I got
to set up beside me, I guessfor now one, and actually have
it going so I can see what theheck other people are seeing.
Right right, right yeah, becauseI didn't have that.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, well, and I remember your trial run.
Your trial run looked prettygood, though that was pretty
snazzy, you know.
You said you drove away.
You could still see the cookwhen you went to Walmart or
whatever.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, no, that's pretty cool.
Which is an option with whatI'm using is yeah, like the link
that you came in here with Yep.
If you just had it on a phoneand clicked the link, you could
just go driving right now.
We'll just watch you on a roadtrip or something I can send you
to the store.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
You just turn off the mic on that particular device,
and so it doesn't do an echo.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, right now Dolores is using an iPhone and I
just clicked the link link andshe has it.
It's not plugged up to acomputer or anything, so she
could go walking with it.
As long as you can keep somekind of cellular coverage, she
would stay connected and herstream would continue.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Well, I will.
I will tell you like I'mlooking right now on on this
format.
Here you're at 10 ADP and thatrestream even when I pay for the
diversion I pay for, it's only720, which I I didn't think was
that big of a deal for us justdoing our little show and
everything like that.
You know, like I do everything4k whenever I do my videos, but

(32:17):
like the stream stuff, Iwouldn't mind doing 1080.
But just keep in mind, it'll be720 instead of 1080 whenever
you're.
If you, if you go over to there, I and I don't know why they
they want it.
I mean, I guess it's anupcharge and but the but the
difference is price between whatI pay for and the other one is
so freaking high it's likeforget that.

(32:39):
And then there's a feature onthere where they would make
shorts out of our live show.
But that's $20 a month.
I was like, well, I can justtake the live show, throw it on
Premiere Pro and create thoseshorts.
Why do I need to do that?

Speaker 1 (32:57):
You're seeing that as $10.80, and that is correct.
However, the live is only $7.20.
The live is Okay, unless youpay an extra $15 a month.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
So they always get you by the balls one way or the
other.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Are you limited on how long you can be on this?

Speaker 1 (33:14):
Yeah, so this plan that I'm on right now is $29 a
month I think it's for 24 yearlysomething like that, I don't
remember and you're allowed 15hours of recording a month.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
Recording, but what about live?

Speaker 1 (33:30):
Live stream, I believe, counts as that.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Okay, because I don't think there's a limitation on
that.
I mean, you've seen our show.
Some of them go two hours, someof them go three hours.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
I think the longest one is three hours and 20
minutes.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I I think the longest one was three, three hours and
20 minutes.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
I think it was a long you might have to go to the
enterprise print plan where theysay contact Well, I think,
cause we went over to Sundaynights.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
I think I think you're you're, you're seeing
like ours was like two hours and30 minutes, but I think you're
going to start seeing shorterones because rob wants to go to
bed.
So it's like you're retired.
You're going to bed, dude, getout of here.
You know.
But um, I, I, you know we wentto the sunday nights because

(34:20):
because doug, uh, doug does alot of camping in the summertime
.
You know, for him to be here onSaturday it'll be difficult or
whatnot.
I think possibly in thewintertime we'll be talking to
them.
Maybe go back to Saturdaynights.
I like the Saturday nightbecause we can talk all night

(34:46):
and I don't mind being up allnight because the next day I'm
not doing anything.
I just don't want to be upuntil midnight on a live stream
and have to go to work, you know.
But I don't mind the long ones.
I mean it's fun, everybody hasfun.
I've listened to them.
I was like man, there's somedead air here and there, but for
the most part, man, it's prettyentertaining.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
You're not going to expect anybody to come in for
five hours and just glue their.
You know they come and go.
Come back a couple.
Y'all still.
Y'all still here.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, well, and a lot .
So like during the live I'llget two or three views, but like
, oh, I can look at or threeviews, but like I can look at it
real quick.
So last week I only had liketwo or three people watch live,
Okay, but now I've had 36 viewson it, so people come back and

(35:38):
watch it later, you know.
So there's only 10 on Andy'sand then there's like like the
ranchers that was, uh, there's21 on there.
I'm looking for yours, okiesmoking.
36 views, yeah, 36 views onyours.
And only had two people watchthe whole night.

(36:00):
We were live, you know, butthere's 36 people came back and
watched it later.
So, and then I'm looking at thepodcast.
Making a podcast there's like60 p or 660 downloads or 60
watches throughout the whole.
And I don't know if you'veexperienced this, but india,
there are people listening inindia, you know it's like, oh,

(36:22):
it's weird.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
You mentioned that because right when you're
talking about that, I was goingto say what's so cool?
I'd have to look it up.
But I've got people like yousaid India, what countries?
Finland, just crazy UK, yeah.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I got somebody down in Brazil Like what, why?
How did we get down to Brazil?
I'm just thinking like theIndia one.
I'm like none of us cook withcurry.
I can't stand the smell ofcurry, but I guess they're
trying to figure out westernfood.

(37:00):
I don't know.
First world problems.
Our smoker don't work.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
We gotta use charcoal yeah, I'm looking, I'm gonna
look at my stats right now.
So, if I can pull that up, isthat I get fascinated?
Here we go locations.
So, uh, yeah, countries got theunited states, finland, all

(37:26):
countries here israel, germany,united kingdom and australia
those are.
So that's got six differentones.
And then when you look at thethe places that listen to this
podcast, I've got california,new Jersey, ohio, missouri,
virginia, wisconsin, florida,several Some that must be some

(37:50):
other country.
Yuziami, there's a littleOklahoma on base right there,
but I don't know.
It's cool.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Yeah, it's.
So the internet has definitelymade the world smaller.
You know it definitely has madethe world smaller, but it's
actually fascinating that peopleare interested in watching
something from over there youknow it's, it really is and that
there's a lot of UK people Iwatch.
You know there's.
There's some guy on YouTube.

(38:22):
He's got tons of subscribers.
You know there's some guy onYouTube.
He's got tons of subscribers.
He was building a bomb shelter,a room in his backyard, and
then he covered it up and he'sgot grass.
So you go through his shed andthere's a stairwell going down
to it.
You know it's weird.
Hey, you know the world isdefinitely.

(38:44):
It's becoming easier and easierto succeed if you do something
right.
You know.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Consistency, I think, is one of the biggest things.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Well, you know what?
I would agree with you on that.
But I'll be honest, it was likethree months there where I
didn't do nothing on my techchannel.
But I didn't do nothing on thischannel either because some
things had happened.
You know, rob knows about allthat stuff, but things that
happened that pulled me awayfrom it for a while.
And that tech channel, I thinkin three months I gained like 40

(39:22):
subscribers and didn't freakingput one video up.
So it's like we talk about thatbut it's like it's still gross,
you know, it's like does itreally matter?
I mean, I, I do know, I do knowthat I would like to.
I'm trying, I'm trying to focusmore on quality than quantity.

(39:46):
Would that make sense?
Yes, I would think that,because you can put out 10
videos that are garbage nobody'sgoing to watch, but you put out
one video that's decent, thenyou're going to get a lot of
views.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, you don't want to put a video out just to get a
video out, right?
No, you're producing videosjust to produce a video.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
Yeah, and I've done fairly well on this channel.
With that the other channel, itgoes back to the YouTube
fatigue.
It's like, just get it out, getit out.
And you're like, fuck, I ain'tgoing to put that out there.
And then it sits there and itdoesn't do nothing because I
don't put it out and I got tothink of something else.
But I'm looking at like thischannel here, the new channel,

(40:30):
that is the potato sausage one Ijust threw out there just just
as a little yeah it was.
it wasn't a welcome, it wasn't ahow to, it was just I was
cooking them as a cave.
This would be cool, just tofilm real quick, do something
real quick and put music tostraight into the point.
You know, and uh, I mean it's131 views, but I mean, for the

(40:52):
most part I'm getting 300 to 400views, 500 views on almost
every video now, and it's justweird to me that I'm getting
that many views on it.
So that country cutter did yousee that one?
Yet that was today.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
I haven't gotten to that one yet.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
No, so that country cutter just started, so that
Country Cutter just started, soit's only six views, but that's
actually a big Lou thing, butyeah.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
And I've found that it's kind of it starts out slow
and then day two and three itseems to pick up, at least on
mine, kind of strange.

Speaker 3 (41:33):
Well, doug says the same thing, but it's like 13
days, 555 views.
So I did the grilled cheese,that grilled cheese, and Doug
said, well, it's because youcalled it jelly roll, and people
were thinking that it was jellyroll.
I was like, all right, well, ifthat's the the case, I'll start
naming stuff m&m and dante'sinferno.

(41:54):
I mean, if it, if it works,then fine.
You know, uh, the white castlevideo is 453, so that one, that
one there kind of died, but Ididn't expect it to even do 4.53
.
So that was one of those thingswhere, leading up to it, we

(42:15):
were fighting and arguing about,because, if you notice me, I'll
call people out.
Yes, I'm not scared.
And I told everybody on thatlive show nobody do a White
Castle Burgers, right, nobody.
And then Rich just cooked thatdamn food, or whatever this damn
food you know.
So I do the rising.
No, you didn't.
You already know, you didn't,what kind of onions you use,

(42:39):
real, real onions.
Yeah, you didn't do it right,because the onions that they use
is, uh, dehydrated onions.
So you didn't do it right.
So, and then my little z grillsfiasco everybody likes to talk
about the z grills.
Hey, I was right, I don't want,I mean I was right, I'm sorry,

(43:01):
and I had everything backed upand I you know that done.
Videos took a while to puttogether but I want to make sure
that dot that the t's were.
Oh crap, when you put yourhands up, the t's the t's sure
that the T's were crossed.
Oh crap.
You put your hands up.
The T's were crossed, the I'swere dotted.
Everything else was thatgarbage.
Doug gets a kick out of the ZGrills freaking thing.

(43:22):
I don't know why, but he gets akick out of that Z Grills.
But I'm not scared.
I come from a world on the techside.
We call out companies that dobad, you know.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
We don't just sit back and let them yeah, don't
let them do what they're doingPush the consumer around.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
We don't do it.
I haven't seen that too much onthis side.
I get you know we're all fromthe Midwest.
I'm sure Oklahoma is stillconsidered the Midwest.
I'm in the Midwest, so we'vegot that Midwest mentality.
But at the same time I've gotthe mentality of don't screw
people over.
You know, people work hard fortheir money.

(44:05):
So don't sit here and tell methat this smoker here is part of
your thing and then we'reasking about it you say, well,
no, that's not part of it.
Well then, don't put it in yourads.
Don't have your influencersfreaking be in front of it
saying you get to have five newgrills and you know.
Or spin this and you get fivegrills for this.

(44:26):
Whatever you know, whatever thepromotion crap is Okay, don't,
don't.
If it's not part of it, don'tput it in there.
Play it simple.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
Yeah, don't misrepresent or switch bait or
click bait.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
You know what I?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
mean Right, kind of making you think a little.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
It was one of those small, small Facebook ads.
You know that was an influencer.
I don't know who it was.
I don't know who that guy is.
I'm surprised that guy hasn'teven seen all that stuff.
But and I don't know who it isNobody's even going to tell me
who that guy is.
But you got an influencer therethat's got a Z-Grills, that's

(45:08):
toting your stuff.
You know their promotion infront of a grill.
That's not part of yourpromotion.
It just doesn't make sense tome.
You know, it's like I'm goingto a Mercedes dealership and
you've got a freaking Volkswagenthere.
It just doesn't work.
You know, come buy a Mercedesand you show me a freaking

(45:32):
Volkswagen Rabbit.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
Okay, yeah, it's like no, yeah them car dealers do
that kind of stuff all the timeyeah.
I know they do.
You know they'll add something,or maybe you get a brand new TV
.
You go oh, we just sold that,but we got this, you know.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
They don't like me when I go in there, because I
flat out tell them this is whatI'm paying and if that's not
what you want to give it to me,fine, I'll go somewhere else and
I do.
It's like um, that truck outthere, they call me well, we'll
give it to you for that price.
I said no I'm not interested, nomore.
I don't want to deal with youpeople.
Oh well, what could we?
What could we do?
What could we do?
I was like, well, you can giveme free oil changes for two

(46:14):
years.
That's what you can do.
So they gave it to me.
All right.
Oil changes are $100.
$100.
So you just got to finagle.
But I'm too old to heckle andhaggle.
You just want to walk in andsay this is a good enough deal.

(46:34):
Give it to me, yep, and I'm nottrying to screw you over, I know
and I really like, like thatwas a Suburban and it was
sitting in an Audi dealership,okay.
So you got all these Audis inthere and you got a Suburban on
your parking lot.
I'm like, dude, you don't wanta Suburban on your parking lot,

(46:54):
it's bad for business.
You got a Chevy in your parkinglot and you sell Audis.
I mean, come on.
So they saw the light but I waslike screw it, I'm not buying
from you unless you give me this.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Dick to your guns.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
Because I was like I don't need it, I can go find
somewhere else.
I've gone this long without it.
I don't need it right thisminute.
It's not like we're.
I got a company vehicle, so itwasn't like I needed a car, so
we already had hers.
It was just time for me to getanother one.
That Blazer I had went kapooey.

Speaker 1 (47:38):
I said man had hers, it was time for me to get
another one right.
That blazer I had went kapooeyman, I need something.
Well, I think we already talkedabout this, but uh, you know, I
really enjoy the the uh, theway you refurbish the turd
episodes to refurb this turd.
Yeah, because I I kind of hadsome notes here and I was going
through there and I I think youtouched on this when we started,
didn't you?
You know how you just you don'twant to pay full price for
anything and you just kind offind something low price.

(48:00):
And because I remember there'sa video you took and you
restored a complete turd right.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
Oh well, so my sister , my sister's?
Well, so that one was.
I think that was an old.
No, that wasn't a member's mark, it was a Char-Broil.
It was still a Walmart brand.
It was like a Char-Broil but Igave it to my sister.
That was the worst griddle Ifound the absolute worst.
Okay, you know you didn't see alot of that in the video, but

(48:32):
there was a lot of elbowscrubbing in that one.
There was still.
There was grease coming out ofthe, the frame of the leg of the
of the griddle.
You know, I mean, I, I knowthat I cleaned that stupid.
I I ended up taking that wholething completely apart nuts and
bolts and everything to clean it.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
You did, I remember watching that.

Speaker 3 (48:56):
Yes, we watched it, yeah and then I gave it to my
sister, you know, but I seasonedit all up and then I took it to
my sister's house and she comeout and she was all excited and
it was perfect for her and herplace, you know.
Um, but that one probably wasthe by far the worst one.
I still got one in the garage.
I paid 25 bucks for it was a 28inch blackstone and my wife

(49:18):
claimed it.
So, um, if you guys saw theepisode where I took the 36 inch
and had it sandblasted, well, Ihad her sandblasted too.
At the same time.
We went on that cruise.
I dropped it off, so theysandblasted too.
At the same time we went onthat cruise.
I dropped it off, so theysandblasted both of those tops
for $100.
So I still got to do hers, so Istill got to do a video.

(49:40):
I've got a hood for hers.
I've got to do drain back drainfor hers.
I think I can't remember becauseit was last year when I bought
this stuff.
I don't remember if I boughtwheels for it, you know, like
caster wheels for it.
I can't remember that far, butI still have to get hers
together.
But when I got it it wasNovember and so, like that

(50:00):
cruise, we went on a Halloweencruise and we got back in early
November and it started gettingfrizzy, cold.
Now, like I'm not getting thepower spray out, I'm not getting
the power spray out, I'm notdoing any of that stuff, I'll
just wait until spring next year.
So I've still got to do thatvideo, but I don't think I'm
going to do a refurbished turdon that one, for the simple fact
that I've already got the topsandblasted and all that.

(50:24):
But the refurbished turd waspretty good.
But I'll be honest with you,it's a lot of work and I don't
know if it's going to bereprised or not, just because of
the time that it takes to do it.
People seem to like it, but Idon't think they realize the

(50:52):
consumption of time that ittakes to.
You know, to clean them up isone thing, but you know as well
as I do, john, that anytime youadd making a video, it makes it
three times longer oh gosh yeahokay, so it's like I I got, I
gotta.
I gotta focus my time on on what, what's important, and I don't
think the refurbished turdeditions are a lot of work or

(51:17):
completely worth it, if that youknow.
I mean, they're enjoyable andit's cool to see, but it's like
man, it's just a lot of work butthere's enough there to show
people hey, you can go buy thesethings cheap on, buy, sell,
trade and fix them up and dowhat you need to do with them.

(51:40):
The problem is people don'twant to do it.
There's a lot of people whodon't want to do that, but there
are people that do, so it'sit's.
It's it's a matter of how muchyou want to work for it.
Right Cause Blackstone's, Ithink the crappy ones at Walmart

(52:01):
are like two 98.
And then they go up from thereand then you know, if you can
buy a halo, you're you're you aHalo.
You're not doing the refurbstuff.
If you're buying the $300 onefrom Walmart, you're doing the
refurb stuff.
You know what I mean.
It's just the way it is,because why would you refurb
something if you can go buy aHalo or the $500 griddle?

(52:24):
You know $500 griddle.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
And you're refurbing something that's you know higher
end.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Right.
So it's what it is and I knowI'm the flat top dude, but I've
incorporated and I went back andforth on this too, because, if
you notice, I started using thecast irons and the smoker and
then I've been trying toincorporate the smoker into the
flat top and all that stuff.

(52:51):
So I think I probably hit it inthe beginning.
I've become more, trying to bemore entertaining.
If you notice, a lot of myvideos are fun, lighthearted,
joking.
Yes, you know, because if Ican't get you from me cooking,
I'm going to try to get you fromcomedy Something funny, you
know, and I think that to try toget you from comedy Something
funny.

Speaker 1 (53:12):
You know, and I think that's what people like about
your channel.
I've tried, but I just thinkyou've got the perfect
personality, the charm, I meanyou know where you kind of get
that glow and that funniness outof you.
Quirkiness.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Right, well, that's just the way.
I always wanted to be astand-up comedy, but I never had
the kahunis to do it until now.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
I was always scared.
I don't know why I'm scared.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
I always find laughter to be one of those
things that everybody can relateto, but there are people that
aren't funny.
They try to be.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I just know I'm not, so I don't try, right.

Speaker 3 (53:55):
So and then there's there's, there's, there's
sometimes, there's.
Sometimes there's subtletieswhere you don't, you got to take
a double.
Did he really say that?
Did he say go back to whoa?
Did he say that?
He said that.
So what was that video?

(54:15):
Was it the White Castle one?
I said something.
My wife watched it.
Oh it was.
I said something about thegriddle being my mistress or
what have you, but it just kindof coasted underneath the radar
stuff.
And I said something about butI love my wife and I got my wife

(54:37):
, whatever something, and mywife's just like what the hell
is it?
You got to go back and watch it, you'll, you'll see it.
You kind of you'll miss itsometimes if you don't.
But I don't know.
I but I don't know.
I try to be entertaining.
Sometimes I'm not, but that'swhere the editing comes into
play too, you know.
So editing was always so.

(55:04):
I don't know if you want me toget into this or not, but when I
first started YouTube, itwasn't to actually be on YouTube
.
Started YouTube, it wasn't toactually be on YouTube.
When I was, we talked aboutpirating back in my early 20s
the Premiere Pro.
So I've always wanted to be afilmmaker.
But you know, I've lived in aworld of parents that says you
can't my whole life, so youalways believed them because you

(55:28):
said it so many times.
But when I was younger I didshort films and we did put them
in small film festivals here andthere in the local area.
And when I got older I waswanting to.
I think it was 2018.
I've written like three or fourscripts and I was wanting to
film and make one of them and Ididn't have the hardware or

(55:54):
nothing to edit with.
So I started filming and itjust wasn't working.
So I waited until I got thatone over there built and I was
like, all right, well, I'm goingto start YouTube to relearn
Premiere Pro, because PremierePro today is completely
different than Premiere Proyesterday.
So the whole premise behindactually starting YouTube was to

(56:16):
make videos brushing up on myediting skills, and it just
snowballed from there and Istill haven't made my short film
.
There's a video on the techchannel that I kind of did a
spoof not a spoof, but more of acinematic cinema type of video

(56:41):
but it still had tech tied intoit.
It didn't do very well, but itwas just me getting stuff out,
just my creativeness out.
You know, if you actually lookat the if you look, because I
can't do it on this channel yet,but if you look at the trailer
on the other channel, you cansee the.

(57:01):
You can see, like me, puttingthe trailer together in a
cinematic type of thing.
This stupid, god-blessed thing.
I've got to get rid of thestupid camera or find a way to
turn that stupid thing off.
You saw it in the live show andthen Doug's got the same camera
now.
But I know I'm rambling aboutstuff.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
but Is there anything , any short film or anything
you've made that you just neverhave shown?

Speaker 3 (57:29):
You know, maybe have a bunch of stuff out there, I
don't have it, I don't have it,I've lost it all.
So when I was younger I moved alot and in my adult years I
moved a lot and I lost a lot ofthat stuff and then, like the
hard drives that I had gotdestroyed.

(57:53):
There were some things thathappened in the past where
people were very malicious, andyou know what happens when you
put a magnet to a hard drive.
Right, oh, yes, Okay, well, soI lost a lot of that stuff.
I can't get back, it hurts.
But I can either have one or twooptions.

(58:15):
I can sit here and be angry therest of my life about it or say
, well, it's what it is.
You know, you put a lot of workinto it, it's difficult.
And then there was one that Ihad on VHS but it got so
degraded you can't see.
You know, you can't make it out, you know.

(58:35):
So it's what it is.
All right, you know all thevideos I've done.
I've toyed with the thought ofdoing a documentary on the life
of a YouTuber.
I just got to figure out how toactually approach it.
Does that make sense?

(58:55):
But I have every single pieceof footage, from Rhinotech to
the Flattop New.
It's all stored.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
I got all of it, you could do a big compilation.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
I've got five years worth of video.
All the mess ups me call myselfa fucking idiot.
Me call me a stupid ass, me go.
You know, it's just you know.
And then I got, I got.
I got kids in the in the backlaughing their ass off because I

(59:28):
screw up, I'm fumbling overwords and it's like, well, I've
been, I've got, I've got allthat.
I've got all that footage.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
A lot of people don't keep it yeah, I, I have some,
but I I don't think I I can, Idon't have all that I've got all
of it, I don't.
I get a hard drive full andthen it runs out of space and
then you're like, okay, I don'tneed this, no more.
Start over.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I kept it all you got it all I've got it, all you
know if anything when I die, mykids can go back and watch all
of it.
You know they'll get a laugh.
You know, even with thechannels, even if they don't get
the raw stuff, you know that'swhat's cool about this, too, is
your kids can go back and watch,watch this Even when you're

(01:00:20):
gone, you know, I think, uh, Ithink some of this stuff is like
just a memoir, you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
And that raw stuff is is.
You know, that's pretty cooland and when I first started
doing this I was trying to betoo perfect, you know, or you
edit in this and I've got moreand more like live videos, for
example.
That was something that I'vealways kind of been scared of,
as you, if you, you know it iswhat it is, so well, and I told

(01:00:53):
you, I told you in the beginning.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
He's like I, I'm the guy that falls and asking if I
got recorded.
Who cares?

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
yes, I've let loose and and enjoyed, uh, doing that
to where I don't, I don't careas much anymore so who does the
editing?

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
you, or or dolores?

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
so I I do the editing .
I've got a few differentediting softwares.
I've got a Mac and Final CutPro and I've got CapCut I use
occasionally and I've I've gotdifferent ones and if you look
back at some earlier videos, Iused to have a two camera setup.
I'd have one camera pointing atthe, say, the, the food, one
camera pointing at me, and thenI would go in there and I'd

(01:01:33):
upload both files and you'd tryto sync them.
Then I'd have a different audiodevice and then you'd sync it
and then you'd have to sit thereand you'd press 1, 2, 1, 2 to
get it just right.
And I still do that.
Yeah, you do the little clapand then line it up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Yeah, like Premiere, it does it automatically.
You just highlight both of them, click it and sync it and there
it goes, the reason I wasasking.
So the question I was going tohave for you, because this was
very hard for me in the verybeginning editing myself.

(01:02:12):
Did you find it difficult toedit yourself in the beginning
because I had, I had atremendous hard time editing
myself because a lot of thoseshort films I didn't star in
them and the ones I did I didn'tyou know, the ones I did start
them I didn't have speaking, thespeaking lines or nothing.
So editing yourself, I found,was the most difficult thing for

(01:02:33):
me whenever I did.
Did I do that again?
No, I don't think so, butediting was the hardest thing I
ever found myself to do in thevery beginning.
It was weird.
Did you find that?

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
No, I really don't think so.
Well, once he edits it, hemakes us watch it over and over
like all the kids plus me, I diddo that.
I said, hey, come see what youthink I need to just delete the
whole thing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Yeah, no, I didn't traumatize them with that.
I was just like you know whatI'm just going to?
So I found in the beginningthat if you spend all your time
trying to perfect it, it'llnever get published.
Just you, just I mean, there'sjust going to be flaws in it,

(01:03:30):
it's just going to be what it is.
You just got to, you know,otherwise I'd still be over
editing my first video fromLowe's, you know, or the first
video I did with my graphicscard.
That I did on my other channel,you know.
Did you happen, you guys?
You guys, you don't.
You never really saw the otherchannel, did you?

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
The Rhino.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
I have subscribed to it and watched some of it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
Did you watch any of the shorts that were?
So there's a segment on there Ido with my boys called 80s
Gamer.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
No, I haven't seen that.

Speaker 3 (01:04:08):
Go watch those and then come back Not now, but
didn't just come back to meafter you've watched the 80s
gamers.
They're so funny, it's just forlike the very first one I ever
did.
And there's this little premisehere.
I'm in the hallway, you know,in the hallway closet, you know,
acting like I'm reaching forsomething.

(01:04:28):
Rj know, rj.
He comes in and video bombs usevery week, you know, and he's
in a few of those videos.
He comes out of his room.
He goes hey, dad, you want toplay Fortnite?
Sure, why not?
So the next, the next thing,you see me.
We're downstairs and I have Ihave a well, actually, I have a

(01:04:50):
joystick.
Where is it at Come here, I gota joystick in my hand.
He's like all right, I'm readyto play Fortnite.
And he goes no, dad, you got touse this.
And he hands me an Xboxcontroller and I pick it up and
I'm looking at it and I gothat's too many buttons and

(01:05:10):
there's a lot of other and Imake myself look so stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
You do this in your shorts.

Speaker 3 (01:05:16):
On the shorts, on the Rhino Tech one, you know, and
he gets real involved in it andthere's, you know, there's a
whole mess of them and they'rejust hilarious.
But it's called 80, it 80sgamer, you know, because I mean
the tech channel has got a lotof gaming, pcs like gaming stuff
, another tech stuff as well,but 80s gamer because I'm, I'm,

(01:05:42):
you know gen x, and when videogames came out, we had pong in
the 70s and then atari came outin the late 70s early 80s
ColecoVision, and then intoNintendo and then Sega and
Dreamcast and you ever have theIntellivision.
Intellivision too.
Donkey Kong was on that one aswell.

(01:06:02):
It was on ColecoVision, becauseColecoVision actually put out
Donkey Kong, but Intellivision,I think, was a sister company of
ColecoVision.

Speaker 1 (01:06:12):
That sounds pretty cool.
I'm going to do some bingewatching on that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
You're going to have to at least watch some of it.
There's one on there.
I left it on there.
It's kind of embarrassing, butit was so when I'm singing the
80s gamer song.
Just keep in mind.
It was an inside joke from afriend of mine that whenever I
did it, so a lot of people knowit only only he understands it

(01:06:38):
so but I just kept it up therejust because it's like okay,
well, um, there was one on there.
I flushed an air tag.
I tried to flush an air tagdown a down a toilet at walmart.
So I mean, stupid crap likethat.
My, my comedy comes out in someof those shorts, you know.

(01:06:59):
So, uh, but I've never beenlike we've talked about making
shorts to grow your channel.
I think that's a, that's a badidea.
I I think you taught it on thatone I think I think shorts are
fine to make, but I don't thinkthey're fine to grow, because
people aren't going there towatch your long form.

(01:07:21):
They're only going to be thereto watch you short.
They're subscribing to yourshort, so therefore they're
there for your short right,there's a silly video too.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
I don't know that what I make is for short.
You know it's not dancing, it'snot, you know?

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
uh well, so in the very beginning, if you actually
go and look at uh, because Istopped making a lot of shorts,
I'll make some shorts for rightor for for the flat top noob.
But if you look at some of theearlier videos, I turned a lot
of early videos into shorts and,yes, they're a great way to
grow your channel, to getsubscribers right.

(01:07:59):
But at the same token, the waythat I look at it now, you've
been on YouTube just as long, ifnot longer, than I have.
Okay, so you understand part ofthis.
If you're subscribing whenyou're watching a short, you're
not there for long form.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
You're just not.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
And if you're not a channel that does a lot of
shorts with your long form,there's no point.
You know, because you've almostgot to keep up with that
audience along with your longform.
There's no point, you know,because you've almost got to
keep up with that audience alongwith your long form audience,
because now you've got twoseparate audiences on your one
channel.

Speaker 1 (01:08:39):
And even if you do like a what do they call it?
A refurbish it, or you knowwhere you could.
Just you could put it insomething, have it, pick out 30
seconds of your video.
Those people most likely onlygoing to watch that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
Right, they're not going to watch the full version
and they have a related video.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
No one clicks it.
No, no, nobody does.

Speaker 3 (01:09:00):
That's why I say, if I'm making it short, I'm not
making it to gain something.
I'm making it just because it'seither funny, goofy or you know
something.
I just got a wild hair up myass to do you know, because I
want to.
Just do it Right, just to do itRight.
It's not to grow.

(01:09:20):
And I hear everybody say, oh, Ineed to start making shorts so
I can grow my channel and stuff.
Well, it doesn't work that way,buddy, it really doesn't.
I'm sorry I sound like richardnixon right now, but I'm not a
crook.
You're gonna edit that part out.
It's just not.

(01:09:42):
I mean, I don't know a lotabout youtube, but I've been on
long enough to I've learned afew things here and there.
You know, know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
You want to make short form content, go make a
TikTok or something.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
Well, you know what and I don't even mind you making
short form TikTok's not it.
If you're going to do shorts onYouTube, just do shorts, don't
do long.
Okay, you can stay on, becauseI don't think TikTok, tiktok is.
Tiktok is not going to be herethat long.
Youtube is going to be hereuntil after we're dead.

(01:10:17):
Youtube is not going anywhere.
I keep trying to tell peoplethat Look at what happened with
TikTok, where they shut it downfor a little bit.
Unless they find an Americanbuyer, it's going to go bye-bye.
Tiktok is american buyer, it'sgonna go bye-bye tiktok it's
gonna go bye-bye, um, andyoutube's still gonna be here.
Youtube, youtube has been hereso long.

(01:10:40):
It's been here long enough.
They have everything set up for, I mean, they're they're the
most generous of the creators.
They really, really are.
Twitch screws you.
That's all.
Amazon, jeff Bezos, they don't.
They are not very good fortheir creators.

(01:11:02):
I think YouTube, as far as theplatform is concerned, I think
they're here to stay.
They're always making thingsbetter for you and I, the
creator.
I don't think they're goinganywhere, and if you want to
make shorts, just make shorts onYouTube and just all shorts.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Have you thought about creating your own little
just shorts channel?

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
I toyed with it.
But I'll be honest with you,man.
I mean, it doesn't seem like ittakes that much time, but it
takes some time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:36):
Yeah, and I think it's better to really
concentrate on one or something.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Well, and I'll be honest, two is hard, two is
difficult.
You know, shorts aren't hard toedit.
And make A lot of those, a lotof those 80s gamer shorts, I
actually wrote the scripts forand we followed the scripts for

(01:12:00):
them and I I mean like I did thewords, I did and I wrote down
what we were going to do and allthat stuff.
A lot of those 80s gamers were.
The whole script was written.
Not all of them, but a lot ofthem were written, especially
the ones with me and RJ.
They were written.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
You predetermined what you were going to do.

Speaker 3 (01:12:24):
Yeah, and I got.
I had it all set up and I didall that stuff.
There's there's one there's 80sgamers worst.
And I did all that stuff.
There's one that says 80sgamers worst trade ever.
And I was trying, all I wantedwas my Atari back.
Rj had my Atari and all Iwanted was my Atari back.
So I gave.
I was trying to give himeverything I had, from all my

(01:12:45):
gaming PCs to PlayStations, toXboxes, to everything.
I just wanted my Atari back.
That's all I wanted.
But he wouldn't give it to me.
But it was like 80s gamers,worst trades.
So I had all this stuff stackedup on the table.
He's like all right, all right,geez, I always make me look

(01:13:06):
stupid in the whole videos.
Every video we make of the 80sgamers.
I'm the stupid one.
I always make him look like thegenius and when you watch you
know better At least I hope youknow better.
But I always try to make myselflook stupid.
That's the comedy of it, that'swhat makes it so fun.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
Because we were making it.
He's 13 now.
We started making those when hewas like eight, eight or nine
years old, you know.
So it's you know there was onewith the Game Pass.
Okay, so I got the Game Passright.
So I'm trying to stick itinside the Xbox where the CD

(01:13:50):
goes.
It's like I got the Game Passright.
So I'm trying to stick itinside the Xbox where the CD
goes.
It's like I got the Game Pass,but it won't work.
So you just got to go watchthem.
They're actually really, reallyfunny.
All right, but I don't know, Icould talk and talk and talk.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
No, it's great, man, I mean, you've been awesome
really.
I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
I wasn't sure how it was going to go.
Man, I was really worried.
You were going to ask me aboutrec tech and Pit Boss.
I was like yeah, I don't know,yeah, no.
I'm sure it's more of a formatjust to get to know who I am,
and that's great because,honestly, man, there's a lot of

(01:14:38):
jack offs out there and theycome out looking fake on some of
these little interviews andshows with me is what you get.
I mean, you get the same guyhere as you saw on the live show
.
You know it's just, you knowit's what you get.
I mean, you get the same guyhere as you saw on the live show
.
You know it's just what it is.
I like to have fun, I like tojoke around and I like to make

(01:14:59):
people laugh and happy.
If you don't like it, well,there's a garbage truck over
there.
You can go, hop in it andthey'll take you down to the
dump.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
The one in St Louis is on fire, hopefully some of
these days, you'll sink down tothe flames and burn your ass.
I don't know what to tell you.
Well, I drive a garbage truck,I know.
That's why I caught a couple onfire, that's why I referenced
it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
It wasn't a knock on you, it was just a reference,
because I kind of knew that Ikind of segued that one in there
.
So that's awesome, that'sawesome, that's awesome, awesome
.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
It's been a pretty good time here, so what do you
think about the pit boss?

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
Well, you know what?
It's a boss and it's a pit.
Honestly, I don't like them,you know I don't like them.
Um, uh, you know it, it it does.
I don't like.
I like so, like, like the, the,the grease tray, I like it to
flow, like I got on my camp ship.
It flows down on that pit boss,it's rounded and it flows down

(01:16:06):
to the bottom and then and thengoes, goes down from the back
and the front to the side.
You know what I'm talking about, how it's concaved.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Grease all everywhere yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:16:18):
I'm just I'm going to get a Z grill.
That would be so funny.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
You get a Z grill.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Wouldn't that be so funny.
That would be the ultimate.
That would be the ultimate,that would be the ultimate.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
That's going to be a 180.
You're going to be theirspokesperson.
You're going to be standing infront of it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
And it won't even be the one that they're offering
for the special projects orwhatever the hell it is.
No, you know what.
I've gone back and forth.
I've been looking and like man,do I, do I keep the cap chef
for another season or do I sellit and buy another one?
Um, I've been.
There was a what company wasthat?

(01:17:03):
And they haven't responded tome.
So there's a company.
Uh, I'm to try to find it realquick.
I messaged and it was kind ofthe brisket grills.
It was kind of a genius idea onmy part if it would have worked
, but it didn't work.
So it kind of fizzled out andI'm not such a genius anymore.

(01:17:25):
But that particular companygloats on how much tech is in
their grills and they use AItechnology and all that stuff.
So I asked them to send me agrill for my other channel, my
tech channel, and I told them Iwanted to go over all the tech
stuff for it.
So I'll make a video on all thetech stuff on the grill on the

(01:17:47):
tech channel and then use it andcome over here to the flat-top
noob and use it.
I get one product for twochannels.
It would be great if they wouldsend it to me, but I can't even
get them to respond.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Yeah, they would get two reviews in one.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Yeah, and honestly, and all joking aside, that would
be awesome if I could find atleast one of these companies to
send me their grill for thistech channel and go over all the
technical stuff.
Because let's be honest with you, john, I know you know a lot

(01:18:23):
about tech and stuff, you'repretty handsome with it, but
there's a lot of people thatdon't, that aren't.
And if I could do a video onthe tech side of this stuff, on
the smokers, because they'regetting more and more
sophisticated, you know, it'snot like that camshaft where you
just turn the button, thepellets drop and you're smoking

(01:18:44):
away and you go buy yourself a,because I got a couple of them
upstairs with the Bluetooththermometers that stick in my
meat.
But a lot of these have thatnow where it's all on your
iPhone or your Android.
They got an app and you're atlows.
You're like, oh man, I got two.
It's too high on that brisket.

(01:19:05):
I'm going to bring that down alittle bit.
I can't do that with that oneup there, but there's a lot of
people that don't know.
So I thought maybe the techchannel would be an awesome,
awesome format for that and justgo do a deep dive on that.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Just on that alone yeah, because I don't know any
tech channel that's reviewinggrills.
No, but, but I want, I want todo for the tech stuff on the,
just the tech stuff, you know,because there's a lot of tech
stuff on them grills now thatthat people don't realize there
are but I just gotta find acompany that'll send me a grill
for it, you know so yeah,because I know a guy that has a

(01:19:46):
grill that he'll be at work andI I don't know if he can fire it
up, but I know he can look atit and monitor everything going
on with it and, you know, maybego home or call home.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Hey, the grill went out you know, yeah, well, and,
and, and, aside from from itgetting legs and going into the
refrigerator and putting thatstuff on the grill for you.
I don't know what.
I really don't know what thepoint is, but I'm not going to
sit here and say, well, it'sstupid, not get me a grill.

(01:20:21):
No, I'm going to say, hey, sendme one, because they're putting
them in there, so you might aswell just you know accept it.
But I do think it's one morething to break, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
Yeah, the more tech you get on it, the more problems
you're going to have.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
It's like your cars.

Speaker 1 (01:20:42):
You know we were looking at refrigerators, and
they had one that has a camerain it.
So if you're at the store youcould say well, do I have eggs?
You can go on your phone.
We didn't get that.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
There's a Samsung on it.
It's got a TV on it.
I've gone to the house I said,well, I need my TV hooked up.
Okay, it's in the kitchen, it'son my refrigerator, come on.
You know it's all Wi-Fi.
It's got Netflix on it.
It's got YouTube on it, it'sgot everything on it.
It's like man, why do you needthat?
The thing's like freaking fourgrand.

(01:21:15):
You know it's like, why do youneed a $4,000 refrigerator.
You know I'm not in the freakingkitchen watching TV.
I'm on the freaking couch in myfreaking living room watching
the 65-inch.
Why do I want to watch a littlebig, dicky dick on the fridge?
I know, Make a lot of things Idon't know.
So as a tech guy, I thinkthere's good tech and there's

(01:21:42):
bad tech.
My truck, my work truck badtech Everything is controlled on
that 17-inch monitor.
On my truck, my heat, my AC,everything.
There's nothing.
If that screen goes out, I havenothing.
You know it's like man.
Why, why?

Speaker 1 (01:22:04):
Yeah, it's one computer chip away from a
breakdown.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Give me a mechanic.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
That is scary, you know.
It ain't like back, you know,in ford f-150 or something.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
You know I had that old ford f-150.
It didn't have ac, it had the,it had the triangle windows.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you movedover if you want, if you were
hot, you just drove faster.
That old four pickup man, Ilove that thing thing.
It had that old inline 300 sixcylinder in there, full wheel
drive man, I loved that.

(01:22:34):
That was the best motor Fordever made, was that 300 inline
six.
You know it had a one barrelcarburetor on it so I had that
thing jacked up.
It had big mud dobbers on it,mud wheels on there.
We'd go up to Monroe City upthere by Mark Twain Lake man go
freaking pond hopping on thedamn thing.

(01:22:55):
That was back in my youth, myyoung, young days, my young
stupid days.
Those days I could work on themthings.
I hate working on them now.
But man, every weekend, everyweek, I'd work on that thing
just to play with it and breakit on the weekend, do something
else on it.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Is there anything else you'd like to talk about?
Anything you want to bring up?
What did we miss about the flattop noob?

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
Oh man, he's insane.
What did we miss about the flattop noob?
Oh man, he's insane.
He's a square mil short offreaking being in an asylum.
Just if you guys come over tomy channel, don't expect to
learn anything, but sometimesyou'll be entertained, sometimes

(01:23:49):
you won't.
Sometimes you go.
That guy's an an idiot.
Sometimes that's just made thatway.
It might be supposed to be thatway.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
you never know any food item you want to mention
before we go.
We're here for the food.
What's your favorite?
All time cook.
Second favorite smash burgerthe cast iron pizzas.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
You can't go wrong the cast iron pizzas.
You can't go wrong with thosecast iron pizzas, you know, you
just can't.
I've said it before.
So Pizza Hut, don't do them nomore.
Back in the days when we weregrowing up they actually they
cook them in a deep dish pan now, but they used to cook them in
a cast iron pan.
They used to bring the castiron pan out to the table and

(01:24:33):
sit it on the table.
I think I remember that yes, butthey don't make them like that,
no more.
But the cast iron pizza, Ithink, is probably the second
best thing on the channel I'vedone, because I've made those
things probably five times afterI made that video.
You know it's good when youmake it five, six, four times,
not making the video afteryou've made the video.
You know If you've made food onyour channel and it's a video

(01:25:00):
and then all of a sudden you'vemade that thing several times
after that, within like twoweeks, three weeks, you know you
were wrong to something.
Especially, your family knowsyou were wrong to something.
Your family knows you werewrong to something we did some.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
What was that?
Recently we did and we made ittwo or three times.
What was that?
Uh, I can't think there was.
There was something.
We just did that and we, oh thecrack burger the crack burger.

Speaker 3 (01:25:24):
Yeah, I didn't like that.
Did you see my crack burger?
I'll be the only one that hatedit.
I'm serious.
Everybody else said, oh, it'sgreat, I just dogged the shit
out of it she made variations ofit and everything else.
Yeah, I've seen that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, uh, yeah,sure, like serving over coop to

(01:25:47):
grill that you know they weredoing those party ribs.
And he goes man, I, man, I madeparty ribs for a month.
They were so good.
So you know you're on tosomething whenever you make them
after the video.
You keep making it for a whileuntil you get tired of it.
You know you need to come backto it later.

Speaker 1 (01:26:05):
Because well, if something sucks, I'm going to
say it, but when you're doingthe video you know it's good,
but then you may not remake itas much, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Right, right.
So, like the White Castle.
You know it was good, but itwas one of those things that you
know I could go 15 minutes downthe road and buy a White Castle
.
I don't need to make it at home.
That video was strictly for one, because I got the molds for
the 3D printer and then two Dougstarted.

(01:26:37):
I started on how everybodydidn't make it right, and then
me and him got into arguing howto do it.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blahblah.
I think you have a winner whenyou make a video on a food and
you make it several timesafterwards.

Speaker 1 (01:26:53):
That's an excellent point.

Speaker 3 (01:26:55):
But I think you know, after the Smash Burgers,
because I mean I've madevariations and I'm about to make
another one here soon.
I tease that at the beginningof the show, but I think there's
200, 120 videos.
I've made the cast iron pizza.
That was a winner in the housetoo.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
That was a winner in the house, and I think possibly
our second best cook would be apizza, and it was cooked in the
cast iron on the fifth barrel itwas the beer cheese pizza she's
got it the beer cheese yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
That was awesome.
Yeah, why didn't you get any?
Well, and I so, when I madethat, it was winter time, so I,
I really want to throw it in thesmoker and do it in the smoker
the next time.
Um, and I, and honestly, I justdiscovered the cast irons.
I mean, I knew about them.
I, just as far as using them,I've just I've just recently

(01:27:52):
discovered them.
So there's, uh, there's an egg,an egg, um, oh, what do you call
it?
They call them bowls, but anegg skillet.
I guess it's pretty much.
Well, you know, throw it in asmall cast iron and it's just
basically a, a big omelet with awhole bunch of stuff in there,

(01:28:14):
because I like putting greenpeppers, green onions, green
peppers, red peppers, sausage,mushrooms, all that stuff in
there.
So I wouldn't mind doing one ofthose.
Maybe do like an egg quiche orsomething with all that stuff in
there in the smoker.
I'll live all of it.
Yeah, I'll eat anything once.

(01:28:35):
If I don't like it, then Iwon't eat it again, but I'll try
anything.
I've had octopus, shark,freaking testicles, all that
crap Not my testicles, buttesticles.
I don't recommend those, butit's what it is.
So, yeah, I appreciate you guyshaving me on here.

(01:28:57):
It was fun.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that I was a dud, butyeah, this turned out better
than ever expected.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
I got to say it's been a blast, right?

Speaker 3 (01:29:09):
So I'm trying.
I have my kids and my grandson.

Speaker 1 (01:29:12):
I got to say, man, it's been a blast right.
So I'm trying.
I have my kids and my grandkidscoming in and out and
everything, so that's fine yeahthat's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:29:18):
Don't be.
Is this the longest you've had?
You've had a podcast.

Speaker 1 (01:29:22):
It is, and I've really enjoyed it.
So we're I'm looking at mytimer an hour and and 34 minutes
it goes, doesn't it?
Yeah, I mean it's prettyawesome.
I can see now how the shit showjust goes.
For two or three hours You'resitting here and you're just
like next thing you know you'retwo, three hours in.

(01:29:44):
You're having a hell of a time.

Speaker 3 (01:29:47):
But it's fun.
But if it wasn't fun itwouldn't go.
It really wasn't.
And the three of us I thinkbetween the three of us and then
the guests that we have, itmanages to just banter and play
off of each other and it justgoes by the time you know it
it's like, oh man, it's tomorrow, you know.

(01:30:07):
But that's fine, as long asyou're entertained and hopefully
the audience finds a findsomething entertaining about.
I've gone back and listened tothem and they are quite
entertaining.
It's like, man, that's funny,you know.
So they're laughing, you know.
It's like I, because I wasworried about that too.
It's like, are we really justboring?
And nobody, you know, becauseat the time nobody's watching,

(01:30:29):
but I'd look and people comeback and watch.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Each episode you release or each thing you
release, you gain a few more.
Or you know, someone else findsyou.
And not only that, you get alittle more better.
Everything kind of gets alittle better.
You kind of grow.

Speaker 3 (01:30:48):
It all started with me saying, hey guys, you want to
do a live show, and it justkind of gets a little better.
Yeah, you kind of grow it it.
It all started with with mesaying, hey guys, you want to do
a live show, and it just itkind of blossomed from there and
then and then, and then we were, we were like, well, why don't
we have people on it's like,well, hey, that's great.
And then, you know, I'll behonest, I am still shocked, as
can be, that the flat top Kingcame on the show.

(01:31:11):
I am, I mean, I'm happy andgrateful that he took time out
of his of his world to come onthat show.
I would have never thought in amillion years that he would
have done that, but I've, I wasin contact with him, I've talked
to him, I've run it, I run it,run it by him a few times over
the course of about three orfour months.

(01:31:31):
And I'm still shocked, still tothis day.
I went back and listened tothat live show.
I was like man, you know, thatwas a good show, and just to
have him on it's like man, Ijust I don't think we could do
any better.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Yeah, I mean I'm not impressed he came on.
He came on so early on, yeah.
You know, and you know, that'sreally cool.

Speaker 3 (01:32:01):
Yeah, well, I mean, I get what you're saying, I just
wouldn't have thought he'd havecome on.

Speaker 1 (01:32:12):
You know there's because I got this podcast.
We've been doing this for alittle while.
There is a guy that I wouldlike to get on.
I don't know if you've everheard of him.
He probably never would come on.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
I don't know if you've ever heard of Sam the
Cooking Guy.

Speaker 1 (01:32:24):
Yeah, look him up, he's on YouTube.
He's got like over a millionfollowers.
He's on YouTube.
He's got like over a millionfollowers.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:36):
And yeah, he's really , really entertaining.
Drops the F-bomb all the timeand all that.
Well, if you notice, I try notto in my, you know there might
be some innuendos in there, butI try not to you know.
I try to make it familyoriented, at least on that side
of things.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Yeah, but it's very entertaining.
And you know, I just like tosomething if you could get
someone like that, so you've gotto always have someone or
something that you kind of uhright, so well, you know what I?

Speaker 3 (01:33:01):
I'm ecstatic because, because he was the one, he's
the one that I, when I waslooking at flat tops to begin
with, he was the one I found tostart watching Plus the grills
because he was doing thecharcoal thing.
He was starting to taper overto the because he had that Camp
Chef griddle and I just foundone of his videos.

(01:33:23):
When he got that Camp Chef hehadn't changed his name yet and
stuff, and it's like that'sawesome.
But I'm just grateful that heactually came on.
You know, I mean, it's just,you know, the hungry hussy, he,
he won't, he, I think, I thinkhe's.
He don't have that personality,but neil does, I think neil I

(01:33:46):
know one person I'm glad thatcame on, that's you.
Oh, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
It took a while before I even started asking
people on and I've started tokind of said I'm going to start
doing that and I appreciate yougetting on here and a lot of fun
, you're fine.

Speaker 3 (01:34:03):
Maybe again we'll get you back to it.
I was your 1,000th subscriber.
Oh, I told her I was going tomention that.
I was going to mention that andI totally forgot all about it.
I didn't, I didn't.
I'm not modest, hey look.
So so that that that week, thatweekend, that weekend that we,
that weekend we were having youon, I, I cause I I'm not going

(01:34:28):
to lie, I just sometimes I justcan't watch everybody all the
time, so I'll go and binge watchpeople's channels.
That way I'm more because I'vewatched your stuff, but I just
can't, like I don't.
Doug gets mad at me because Idon't watch his stuff right away
.
I don't know what to tell you,man.
I just, I just don't.
And then he gets mad because Idon't comment.

(01:34:49):
I'm like, well, I watch it onmy TV.
I can't comment from my TV.

Speaker 1 (01:34:55):
And I get you and I have some people a few that as
soon as you post it within 10minutes, it's the same few
people.
Yeah, they watch it right away.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I will watch.
But going back to thesubscriber stuff, I got on here
and I'm like well shit, I'm noteven subscribed to his ass.
And then it said 999.
I'm like, well, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
So I was like all right, there he is 1,000
subscribers 1,000.

Speaker 3 (01:35:31):
You know, maybe I'll call you whenever I'm at like
997.
You can unsubscribe to me andthen come back and subscribe at
999.
You can be my 1,000, I wouldn'tmind so that's awesome it'll be
a minute this was fun, man.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
I hope I can come back yeah, I hope so, and I'll
get back on your show, maybe oneday.
We've already talked about.

Speaker 3 (01:36:01):
it's quite amazing, john, the amount of people that
are now wanting to come on theshow.
It's like I wouldn't sayoverwhelming, it's just like I
start feeling bad and Doug wantsto throw them in there, when
it's just the three of us.
Oh, give them a link.
I would rather just have awhole, because, if you notice, I

(01:36:23):
do the thumbnails with me him,rob, and then whoever's coming
on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
You're right.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Rob and then whoever's coming on.
And you know Rich, rich comeson every once in a while, but
Rich has been doing that for ussince the beginning.
So it's like when Rob wants togo to bed and we're not ready to
shut down, rich will come on.
You know, but I think Rich isthe backup goalie.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
I might have to reach out to him see if he'd come on
here.

Speaker 3 (01:36:53):
Yeah, he probably would.
Rich is a great guy man, I know.
I know him and I got, you know,went back and forth on that
White Castle thing, but he knowswe were just joking and stuff,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Yeah, before we go Rich, he did a video a while a
long time ago about the uh toad,the egg toad.

Speaker 3 (01:37:15):
You know the, the burger, and you put an egg in it
.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I forgot what it's called toad in
a hole.
Toad in a hole, yeah, yeah andI like that video, so I kind of
made one similar and then Itagged him in it and everything
said great video.
And and that's how the both ofus kind of uh and he kind of oh,
that's cool and this and that,and we kind of started talking.
I find that find something andcreate something with someone,

(01:37:36):
and it's always cool.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
Well, so, like Sherman and Cherie or whatever,
the Coupe de Grille up there inWisconsin, you know, I mean I
found them because we did thatFreedom Wiener collab two years
ago.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
That guy.

Speaker 3 (01:37:55):
Yeah, yeah, and I only had, like I don't know,
maybe 20 subs, but Rob and Douggot me involved with that one.
So it's like, you know, it'slike all right.
Well, this is cool, man.
You know, I wasn't expectingany of this stuff.
I really wasn't.
I am so humbled right now withthe amount of people that reach

(01:38:19):
out to me, doug, rob and I.
I know we're the three amigosin the space.
I don't know if everybody looksat the three of us or, you know
, I don't know how everybodyperceives us that way.
I mean, it's like we're theleaders of this pact or if we're

(01:38:43):
just part of it.
I don't know, man, it's hard toexplain.
It's just kind of morphed intowhat it is.
But I'll be honest with you, Idon't, even if that grows big, I
don't want us to change, youknow, I want it to be the same

(01:39:03):
stupid bull.
I don't, you know, and we've hadconversations and it's like if
somebody actually comes, likewhen I started putting this
stuff on Spotify and stuff,somebody comes to us and offers
this stuff, I don't want to letgo of the creativeness of it.
I don't want somebody coming inand changing it, because the

(01:39:23):
whole purpose and the wholeright, well, and don't change
the show, because the wholereason we're here is because the
show.
But once they start to want tochange things, it's like, well
then, why?
You know, so that's all thepipe dream stuff.
You know, it's just stuff thatI think of and it's what it is,

(01:39:46):
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:39:51):
Well, we would love to have you back sometime, you
know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
I hear a but.

Speaker 1 (01:39:55):
A few more words or something.
There's a but in there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
There's a but, but what?
I'm just kidding, I'd be morehappy to come in.
It was fun.
I know we're an hour and 45minutes.
I broke your record.

Speaker 1 (01:40:10):
Maybe next time we'll go and 45 minutes.
I broke your record.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Maybe next time we'll go over two hours.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
I've got the stamina.
Let's see if we can take it out, say bye.
Bye, we'll see you guys.
Thanks for having me Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
Thank you for listening to the okie smoking
podcast.
Episodes drop every monday.
Don't forget to follow thispodcast or you might miss out on
some delicious creations.
You can also find us on ourwebsite, okiesmokingcom, and on
youtube and other social mediaplatforms.
Until next time, keep firing upthat grill.
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