On Investing

On Investing

From market moves to the latest economic news, On Investing looks below the surface of the headline data to bring you fresh insights on what's happening and why—and what the implications are for your portfolio. Hosted by Schwab's Chief Investment Strategist Liz Ann Sonders and Chief Fixed Income Strategist Kathy Jones, On Investing is a weekly audio magazine featuring a variety of Schwab experts and special guests sharing their insights on equities, fixed income, macroeconomic issues, and more. Find it at Schwab.com/OnInvesting or wherever you get your podcasts. Podcasts are for informational purposes only. This channel is not monitored by Charles Schwab. Please visit Schwab.com/ContactUs for contact options. (0823-3DKU)

Episodes

July 18, 2025 25 mins

In this week's episode, Kathy and Liz Ann discuss the June inflation data, its implications for the market, and the Federal Reserve's policy decisions. They explore the impact of tariffs on inflation, the rise in global yields, and the dynamics of the dollar. The discussion also touches on complacency, the influence of AI on the economy and the challenges facing stagnation in the housing market. 

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On this week's episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the bond market reaction to the new August 1 tariff deadlines—and what that means for potential Fed policy. They also examine the impact of servicing the national debt after the passage of the "One Big Beautiful Bill." Liz Ann looks at the upcoming earnings season, while also addressing concerns about economic indicators, inflation, and the housing market. The overall ...

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On this week's episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the current state of the markets amid geopolitical tensions in the Middle East and the implications for oil prices and overall investor sentiment.  

Then, Kathy Jones sits down with Mike Townsend, Schwab's managing director of legislative and regulatory affairs, to discuss the evolving geopolitical landscape, particularly the U.S. involvement in the Middle East and its ...

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Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss recent unemployment data, the upcoming Fed meeting, and the performance of the Magnificent 7 stocks. 

Then, Liz Ann Sonders and Cameron Dawson, Chief Investment Officer of NewEdge Wealth, discuss the “muddiness” in the current economic data and the overall landscape, focusing on inflation, tariffs, consumer behavior, corporate margins, and the outlook for earnings. They explore the complexitie...

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In this week’s episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the current state of tariffs and the ongoing trade war, the implications of budget bills on the economy, and insights into inflation and the labor market. They explore how tariffs are affecting economic indicators, the challenges in estimating tariff revenue, and the potential impact of upcoming economic reports on Federal Reserve policy.

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In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the current state of the bond market, the influence of central banks, and the impact of policy announcements on market dynamics. They explore consumer confidence, economic indicators, and the potential effects of upcoming labor data on market trends. The discussion highlights the volatility in the markets and the importance of understanding the interplay between policy and ec...

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Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss recent market moves potentially related to Washington budget negotiations and an increasing focus on debt and deficits. Then, Liz Ann Sonders interviews longtime market technician Helene Meisler. They delve into market mechanics, sentiment indicators, and the historical context of market trends, providing insights into the evolving landscape of investing. They also discuss the intricacies of ...

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May 16, 2025 31 mins

Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the pause on some tariffs and the impact on the equities market. Then, Kathy interviews Cooper Howard about the features of municipal bonds in the current landscape. They explore the implications of federal funding on state and local governments and the challenges faced by higher-education institutions. The discussion also covers practical investment strategies for municipal bonds, including ...

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Kathy Jones and Collin Martin discuss the recent Federal Reserve meeting, the implications of their decisions on interest rates, and the current economic landscape. They delve into the risks of stagflation, market reactions, and the dynamics of the corporate and municipal bond markets. The discussion emphasizes the importance of focusing on income and yield in the bond market amid volatility and uncertainty.

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In this conversation, Liz Ann Sonders interviews Dario Perkins of TS Lombard. They discuss the growing international skepticism towards U.S. policy, the implications of trade deficits and capital account surpluses, and the risks of recession in the current economic climate. They explore the Federal Reserve's reaction function in light of labor market dynamics and the political influence on monetary policy. The discussion also touch...

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Volatility and uncertain economic outlooks continue to dominate the macroeconomic landscape. In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones consider the current state of the stock market, which has been characterized by significant price fluctuations. They explore the dynamics of the yield curve and the pressures on central bank independence amid political influences. The discussion also highlights the economic indicators that co...

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In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones begin by discussing the current state of the markets, focusing on volatility, investor confidence, and the impact of trade policies. They explore how changing economic conditions and uncertainty are affecting investment strategies and corporate earnings guidance. The conversation also delves into the complexities of global trade dynamics and the Federal Reserve's cautious approach in...

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In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the current state of the markets, focusing on the volatility in both the equity and bond markets. They analyze the impact of recent economic announcements, the role of the Federal Reserve, and the implications of trade deficits. The conversation also covers investment strategies in uncertain times and looks ahead to upcoming economic indicators that could shape market expecta...

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In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the latest round of tariffs issued by the Trump administration—and how they might impact the economy going forward. Then, Kathy sits down with Dr. Nela Richardson, the chief economist of ADP Research. 

They discuss the role of ADP in providing payroll services and employment data. They also cover the current trends in the labor market, the impact of immigration, and the demogr...

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In this conversation, Liz Ann Sonders interviews Barry Ritholtz. He's the co-founder, chairman, and chief investment officer of Ritholtz Wealth Management. And he’s the author of a new book titled How Not to Invest.

Barry and Liz Ann discuss the evolution of financial media, the current market cycle, and the psychological aspects of investing. They discuss the pitfalls of market timing, the significance of emotional control in inves...

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In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the recent FOMC meeting, focusing on the implications of the economic projections, the potential for stagflation, and the uncertainty surrounding current economic indicators. They delve into the Fed's quantitative tightening program and its adjustments, as well as the importance of various economic data points moving forward. The discussion highlights the challenges businesse...

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March 14, 2025 33 mins

In this episode, Liz Ann Sonders and Kathy Jones discuss the current sentiment in the market, contrasting consumer sentiment with investor sentiment amid economic uncertainty. They explore the implications of bearish investor attitudes and the potential for a recession and reflect on the anniversary of the COVID-19 pandemic's impact on the economy. The conversation also highlights key economic indicators to watch in the coming week...

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March 7, 2025 34 mins

In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders review some of the recent questions they have received from investors. Their questions and answers focus on the current economic landscape and cover topics ranging from bond yields to the impact of tariffs to the Federal Reserve's stance to the performance of key indexes and stocks. They explore the complexities of government debt, the dollar's reserve status, and the ongoing debate ...

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Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders discuss the recent drawdown in markets and debate whether this is a growth scare or something more lasting in the bond market.

What's the housing market outlook for 2025? Liz Ann Sonders interviews noted housing market expert Ivy Zelman, executive vice president and co-founder of Zelman & Associates. Ivy reflects on the unique economic cycle that has emerged since the pandemic, particularly its impact...

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In this episode, Kathy Jones and Liz Ann Sonders start out by discussing the latest developments in economic policy and tariffs. They also cover the latest inflation readings and their implications on the dollar and the Treasury market. Then, Liz Ann sits down with Phil Mackintosh, chief economist and senior vice president at Nasdaq. 

They discuss the unique economic cycle in the U.S., post-pandemic, focusing on the interplay betwee...

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