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What happens when the veil between worlds grows thin enough to glimpse what lurks beyond? Bob Dominguez, seasoned Bigfoot researcher and paranormal investigator, takes us on a mind-bending journey through the shadowy realm where cryptids and the supernatural converge.

Ever wondered why Bigfoot bodies are never found? According to wildlife biologist John Benderneagle, "If a Bigfoot doesn't want to be found, it's not going to be found." These elusive giants combine animal-level senses with human intelligence, vanishing into vast wilderness or—as some witnesses claim—stepping into interdimensional portals that swallow them whole.

The conversation ventures into electromagnetic phenomena that connect both paranormal activity and cryptid sightings. Bob shares his groundbreaking theory that Bigfoot may actually weaponize electromagnetic fields found along power line right-of-ways, intensifying fear in witnesses who encounter them. This could explain why people often flee in terror rather than documenting their experiences.

From the Mothman prophecies of Point Pleasant to government conspiracy theories involving MK-Ultra experiments, we explore how cryptid encounters might be manufactured, genuine, or something far stranger. The mysterious figure Indrid Cold—a "smiling man" in anachronistic clothing who appeared before tragedy struck—raises questions about entities that exist outside our normal understanding of reality.

Most fascinating are accounts suggesting Bigfoot and other cryptids might be more than flesh and blood. Native American wisdom holds these creatures as spiritual beings, while multiple witnesses report seeing them disappear into thin air or step through portals leading to arctic environments. Even psychics who help with paranormal cases often refuse to assist with alien encounters, believing these beings exist outside normal temporal constraints.

Whether you're a skeptic wanting to understand the psychology behind these phenomena or a believer seeking validation, this episode challenges everything you thought you knew about what lurks in the shadows. Subscribe now and join us as we venture beyond the boundaries of the known world—just remember to look behind you when searching for Bigfoot, because the one you see might just be the distraction.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome back to Honor Best Behavior.
I'm your host, kelly, and todayI've got a very special guest
in the house.
He's hairy, he's mysterious, heonly comes out under a full
moon.
It's Robert Bigfoot.
Bob Dominguez.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey Cryptid Kelly AKA Kirby.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Kirby.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
AKA.
Was it nine upper no?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Nine over.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Nine over.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Because I always go nine over the speed limit.
For those of you who didn'tlisten to that, well, that was
on your show, so people mightnot have heard it if they
haven't been smart enough to geton the bandwagon there.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yeah, so that's you've like.
I think whenever we startedtalking you didn't have any
nicknames.
Now you got a bunch.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
Yeah, yeah.
So yeah, we've been working onit.
I don't know if any of them aregoing to stick, but we're going
to try.
Okay, we'll see.
I should say we'll see.
I'm not trying to make it stuff, because I'm Cryptid Kelly.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Right.
So I figured that if that'sgoing to be my nickname, I got
to live up to it.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, so we're going to dive into paranormal versus
cryptids, ghosts, schools,mothmen, maybe even Bob's
distant cousins.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
And yeah, so let's get into it.
I guess here.

Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
So I'm really excited to talk to you about this stuff
, because I don't know.
I mean, I think I know some but, I, usually am way off on what
I think I know and what is true,and so I'm really excited to
have an expert on the show likeyou so that you can kind of put
me straight and tell me whereI'm right and tell me where I'm
wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Well, I wouldn't say I'm an expert, I was just saying
.

Speaker 1 (01:57):
You're not.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I've delved into lots of stuff.
Yeah, we like in the in peoplein the Bigfoot field, we don't
we try not to say that wordBigfoot expert, because we,
because we're not, we haven'tdiscovered it yet.
So we can't be experts if thisthing has not been, like,
discovered by science yet.
So but anyway, I'm sorry, I'mjust getting technical on it.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Sorry, you're getting real technical on it.
My show is not that technical,it's just fun and funny okay.
Right, we're just here forentertainment.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Any and all kinds.
Okay, All right.
So Bigfoot, I feel like, is themost known cryptid creature
right, mm-hmm.
And also known as SasquatchRight Hairy creature tall 6 to
12 feet.
15 feet yeah, how tall do youthink he could be?

Speaker 2 (02:46):
There's been some reports, like I was talking to a
guy recently, matt matt parish,and he has the.
The side of his house is likethe easement from the from the
ground to the very top of the,the roof he had.
He has a video of of a bigfootturning a corner around his
house and his easement from thefloor to the to the top of the
roof is like 10 feet and thisbigfoot's head was over that so,

(03:08):
yeah, 10 to 12 feet, yeah, sixto 15 feet tall yeah, that's,
that's massive, that'smassive so it's it's scary, but
it's very intriguing to hearstories like that.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
So all right.
So for the people who areskeptics of bigfoot, there's
been so much footage of bigfootcaptured, but how, how can we
not prove it?

Speaker 2 (03:36):
prove it yeah that that I get that question more
than any, than anything fromanybody.
Hey, bob, how come we haven'tgot like any footage there's?
There's a couple of footagethat I feel that's real.
Number one is the RogerPatterson from 1967.
That was on an 8mm film, sothat one to me is authentic.

(03:58):
You can't really alter it atall.
There's another one called theFreeman footage and that was in,
uh, the pacific northwest.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
that one I feel it's real which the pacific northwest
is the most, um big footy.
Whatever I can't, why can't Isay it?
It's like the most populatedplace where you would see
bigfoot, that's that's.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
That's british columbia.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yeah, british columbia washington state,
oregon, uh, northern that's whatthey say.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, British Columbia, Washington State,
Oregon, Northern California, allthat area.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
It's really foresty.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
It's massive.
It's massive.
You could just throw a dart andgo to an area and there's no
people and there's no houses orany kind of construction.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
And you probably couldn't find the dart you threw
, just like if you saw Bigfootthen you would lose them real
fast.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, so it's just a big, massive area.
But yeah, you're correct onthat area, it's very, very
massive.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And then do you remember the show Harry and the
Hendersons.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Was that Bigfoot, or was that just the big ape?

Speaker 2 (05:05):
It was a Bigfoot, it was aendersons.
Yes, was that Bigfoot, or wasthat?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
just the big ape.
It was a Bigfoot.
It was a Bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Okay, yeah, I actually just recently showed
that one to the boys and theboys loved that movie so much I
can't remember if it was a movieor a show.
It was a movie.
It was a movie that came outand then they did a show with
the original actor who playedhim, but it didn't last very
long.

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Do you remember Elf?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Not my gosh, my memory is real bad today.
Not Will Ferrell Elf, but likeElf A-L-F.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yes, yeah, yeah, the alien one.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
He's also like an alien or like a cryptid creature
, right?

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yeah, he kind of resembles a Bigfoot a little bit
in a way.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
But he's little.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
A small one, yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:49):
Yeah, a small one.
When I was little, I alwayswanted to do you remember the
movie Gremlins?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
I always wanted that little gremlin.
What was his name?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Gizmo.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Gizmo, I wanted him so bad.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I was.
So I wanted him, so bad Iwanted him to be real.
Yeah, he kind of resembles avery hairy Yoda.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:10):
If you kind of think about it, A cuter yeah a cuter
Also, do you remember in StarWars, the Ewoks?
I also wanted one of them,really bad.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yes, yeah, I did.
I love those characters.
I'm a huge Star Wars fan.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Do you remember?
I'm just going down memory, see, my memory sucks.
And then, once I open the door,it just keeps going, do you?
Remember those little stuffedanimals.
They were called Chubbles.
And they had these little lightup eyes and they're light
sensitive and so if somethingpasses it or the light hits it
right, it would be like it makesthis.

(06:47):
They're called chubbles, so itmakes this chubble chitter noise
and they kind of looked likeEwoks because they have little
robes on.
But they kind of reminded me ofwhen my mom died.
I had one and it would go offrandomly and I'm sure it was the
battery dying, but I thought Iwas just like, oh, it's my mom.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Cause it just gave me some peace.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, you, you got a lot of paranormal stories that I
didn't know that was that wasdefinitely the batteries, that
was not it wasn't like there wasno batteries in there and it
was just going off.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
I mean there was yeah yeah but so so my paranormal
like what's really paranormaland what's like made up in my
mind very questionable yeah,yeah, I mean uh you're agreeing,
thanks no, I I mean it's.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's just like you know you have to because, like
I've done both I've doneparanormal and I've done cryptid
stuff and so I sometimes I findlike some of that stuff is kind
of there's a thin line and theykind of cross over sometimes.
And so, you know, I'veinterviewed so many people like
in the paranormal and cryptidstuff.
So you know, I try to hearpeople out completely and

(07:58):
without judging them or justtelling them like, oh you know,
you're not telling me the truthor whatever.
That didn't happen.
So I'm kind of in that mode allthe time.
So if you want to, someonetells me a story.
I just I want to hear it allcompletely.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
So you're really good about being open-minded, do you
get a lot of skeptics that tryto give you a hard time?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, a lot.
I get family members at first.
You know, I've had a lot offamily members.
I had some really close friendsin high school who just
disowned me because I got intoBigfoot stuff and they just
didn't want to talk to me and Ikind of felt like I was carrying
them anyway.
So I said, you know what, Idon't really need them, so I'm
good.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
A lot of those high school junior high friends.
They're just, they're friendsbecause they're there, right,
and you see them every day.
Yeah, okay, so Bigfoot.
You know, my experience withBigfoot is when I was a kid I
had a power wheels and I'd putmy brother in the back and he'd
fall out and I had the Bigfootone, which is like the monster
truck, not the hairy creature,but what I was always super

(09:00):
fascinated with was Locky, theLoch Ness monster, and now
people seem to believe in Lockymore than Bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
Yeah, I mean it's a possibility because that lake is
like super ancient and there'slike I think there's parts of it
that are deeper than some partsof the ocean.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Yeah, it's super, super, super deep, because I
think they've tried to go to thevery bottom to try to find
Lockheed and they can't go tothe bottom because of the
pressure.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
The pressure and there's so much sediment that
just moves around and it limitsthem from actually seeing any,
because I think a lot of stuffthat they actually get on there
is like sonar stuff.
And there's like there's somereally, unless there's like
sonar stuff, and there's likethere's some really, unless
there's like a like a thousandschools of of fish like swimming
together constantly, then youknow, that's that's what you

(09:53):
know.
People say, oh, you know, it'sa, it's, it's a, possibly a
creature that's very, very large.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
So so if there's only one lochie in one lake, how has
it survived this long?
There's there's only oneLockheed in one lake.
How has it survived this long?

Speaker 2 (10:07):
There's rumors saying that there's underwater caverns
that lead into the ocean.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
Oh, so there could be more than one.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
Right, and so there's also stories about, and I get
fascinated by it.
But there's center of the earththere's caves that are so
massive and there's environmentsdown there that other creatures
stay down there.
It's just conjecture, to behonest with you, that I kind of

(10:45):
like and I kind of I kind ofdelve into that sometimes and,
uh, it's very, very amazingstory and it's it's you know,
you get, you get more questionsthan you get answers whenever,
because it's it's hard to provethat you know well and like
lucky.

Speaker 1 (10:54):
You know.
They say that some reptilessurvived like the dinosaur era,
like my chickens, for example,are the closest living relative
to a t-rex yeah so so locky,could it could be the same thing

(11:14):
, right, like if locky was waydown with his little locky
family members.
Maybe they survive yeah,there's.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
there's some fish that uh, I think it was.
It's called the uh coelacanth.
It's a peristaltic fish.
It should have been like 30million years ago and fishermen
have caught it.
They've actually thrown linesvery, very low and they've
caught it and they brought it upto the surface and then it died
.
It couldn't survive theelements.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah, the elements now, so it's like if they put us
on pluto and we can't breathegas.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yep, we would die so there's, it is a possibility, I
think you know, just for them tofind that that one fish think
about.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
They discover new species of animals and bugs and
in the ocean every day.
There's so much unknown still.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
Yeah, it's kind of exciting, but it's kind of scary
at the same time.
Creepy, yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
It creeps me out.
That's why I don't like theocean, because there's too many
things in there that I don'teven know what's going on.
And sharks?
Nope, don't do sharks.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Yeah, I'm with you on that.
I don't like the ocean.
I don't know, I hyperventilatein the ocean.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Yeah, no, I don't like it either.
I don't like to go underwaterand I don't like when there's
weird, when there's thingsbigger than me in the water,
even at the lake, if I feel likea fish, go by my foot, I'm done
, I'm out.
Yeah, give me a pool where Ican see my feet, where there's
no creatures, or shouldn't be inthere.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
I think this is why I hover toward you so much,
because we have.
So we have some stuff that wehave in common.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
We don't even know it , so I went on a cruise a few
times, but the first time I everdid, I would have this
reoccurring nightmare that ashark would jump up onto the
cruise ship, like onto the likebig landing and then, like you
know, then it was like titanicwhere, like the boat was tipping
over and everyone's like I'mlike hanging on to not fall in,

(13:18):
but yeah didn't happen you know,if I would, wouldn't, I
wouldn't go on a cruise.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
But if I did, I'd probably do the same thing.
I would treat the same thing.

Speaker 3 (13:28):
Yeah, that's weird, you know it was, it was fine, it
was fine.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah.

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Okay, mothman.

(14:17):
Now I don't know a lot aboutMothman, but associated with
Point Pleasant in West VirginiaSightings in the late 60s.
So tell me it's a large wingedhumanoid with glowing red eyes,
sounds scary.
And was that a movie?
Did they make a movie out ofMothman?

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Yes, it's called the Mothman Prophecies.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
And so this one is really, really fascinating.
This one I think the originalbook is written by Stephen Keel
and the movie's based on hisbook, and so he has a character
in there that I'm very, veryfascinated with.
His name is Ingrid Cole, and sohe is.
They don't know if he's analien, a trans, a changed

(15:03):
dimensional person or being orsomething, or he is a part of
the um the uh, men in black, andso supposedly he came.
He came into west virginia,pleasant point, west virginia,
before the mothman showed up,and so he's kind of tied into it
.

Speaker 1 (15:23):
but there was like a big bridge, fatality right.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
And so they think that okay.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
They think like he survived that and came back as
Mothman.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
No, what it was is that Ingrid Cole was telling
people.
He was warning people about itbefore it happened.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Oh, hence prophecies, yes, okay.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
But here's the thing about the Mothman.
So there's a theory.
Like I said, it's conjecture,there's not any data for it.
But the Point Pleasant is rightbetween the CIA Langley.
It's right close to the FBI,which was what's the FBI

(16:04):
headquarters.
It's Quantico Virginia.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Quantico.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
And so then there's a bunch of stuff.
So the theory on that one wasthat the government had put
something in the water in PointPleasant and it caused these
people to see this Mothman, andso it was almost like there's a
thing called mk ultra.
I don't know if you've everheard of that.
Um, it's like a, like a mindcontrol stuff.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
It was like, yeah, I kind of read about it and some
of the stuff I was looking at,yeah, yeah, cia stuff, mk, ultra
stuff, so there's, there's allthat stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:41):
It's all kind of gathered together.
So we don't know if peopleactually saw Mothman, or they
were just drinking the water andthey were seeing this stuff.
And then they were seeingIngrid Cole as well.
But Ingrid Cole is also he's inother authors' books, other
than Stephen Keels.
So supposedly he's like astrange entity.

(17:03):
They call him the smiling man,and so he was.
He was wearing clothes thatthat looked out of his error,
like he's wearing, like a shinysuit, and he was smiling and he
was at.
He was at a diner.
He didn't know how to use, youknow, uh, like a knife and a
fork, so he's watching otherpeople do it, so he would copy
them and eat.
So there's that guy's.

(17:26):
Oh, I think I have like twoepisodes on on uh, ingrid cole.
So I just I've been, in factI've been fascinated.
I'm supposed to get this guynamed alan greenspan he's, he
wrote a book about uh,prophecies and stuff like that
and he has, um, ingrid cole andI'm trying to get him on on to
our show, but he's really hardto get in touch with.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
I also think like prophecies and prophets are
super fascinating.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
It is, it is, so I get intrigued with all that
stuff too.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
So All right.
So the next one that I want totalk to you about is the now I
don't know how to say itchupacabra.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
I did Okay yeah that was perfect.
So the little cryptid that Ireally like bunnies and so the
jackalope is always a littlecryptid that has my heart.
Yeah, it's really cute, but younever hear anyone talk about
the jackalopes art, yeah, butyou never hear anyone talk about
the jackalops.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
You see, like you see people who, who do these
customs um yeah, taxidermy, yeah, taxidermy yeah yeah, and they
like do that all the time andI've seen it before.
But yeah, I don't think I'veever talked to anybody who's
seen one.
So but uh, chupacabra, the,that one is really, really
fascinating as well.
So I don't know the exact date,but supposedly it was first

(18:49):
reported in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, Puerto Rico, yep.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
And there's like a big US laboratory there.
So, theory has that they wereworking on this inner species.
They were combining speciestogether and this chupacabra
escaped from this laboratory andit was killing goats.
That was the first thing itattacked with goats, but it was

(19:15):
sucking their blood right.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
Yes, it was just draining all the blood out of
their body.
Because, then it got like thisit was called like a vampire
creature so that's what I wastelling you off show.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Chupa means suck yeah , and cabra means goat, so it's
goat Spanish yes, well, it'syeah yeah, goat sucker, is that
what you?

Speaker 1 (19:35):
said yep, but didn't it also attack cows and horses
and other things?
It?

Speaker 2 (19:38):
did it, did it, did go to the first thing, yeah, the
first thing they got, they gotreapported and it, like it, went
viral did go to the first thing, yeah, the first thing they got
.
They got reapported and it,like it, went viral before viral
was.
Was good, you know so, butthere's like viral was a disease
.
Not when it was, yes, not whenit was a phenomenon I was trying
to say that, but you you knowwhat I was talking about.
So I did but uh, so there's.

(20:01):
There's been like a lot ofreports in like East Texas or
not East Texas, south Texas ofthese chupacabras.
But to me, I've seen footage ofthis stuff and pictures of it
and it just looks like coyotes,like in mange.

Speaker 1 (20:15):
It says it can look reptilian scaly skin, large red
eyes, dog-like with fangs andclaws.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, no one's actually like they've.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
No footage.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Yeah, there's footage of it, but, like I was telling
you, it's mostly like coyotes ordogs that have really, really
bad mange.
Oh yeah, they don't have anyskin.
I mean not skin, but hair.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
They just look like scaly a little bit, yeah, so
hair, and they just look likescaly a little bit, yeah.
So well, how in the world wouldlivestock blood get drained
without it being like some kindof vampire thing, because
there's no like huge gash yeahit like cut a main artery.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Yeah I don't, I don't think there's.
I mean, the only only thing Ican think of that can do that is
a bat yeah, a A bat can do that.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Maybe it was Mothman.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, could be.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Doesn't have big fangs like a bat, though Just
big wings.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
He made it down to Puerto Rico to go on vacation or
something.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Yeah, maybe he's like oh, I wonder how many more
people I can throw off.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
You were so funny yesterday.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
All right, so Puerto Ricoxico and texas, which is
where you live.
So right that's good.
Oh, and it does say thatmisidentification, such as dogs
or coyotes, with mange all rightsome people think that it's an
undiscovered species ofcarnivore or a large flightless
bat which would make sense rightif it's a bloodsucker yeah, but

(21:43):
there's some people think it'sextraterrestrial it could be, it
could be.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
And then, uh like, there's a lot of theories of,
like aliens dropping offbigfoots.
There's a lot of alien, youknow, theories of them dropping
off other creatures as well.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
So I mean yeah, yeah, so me and mac we were having a
conversation about bigfoot andaliens and one of the questions
wasfoot and aliens and one ofthe questions was well, this one
wasn't one of the questions,but this is one of the questions
I've been wanting to ask youthat I always forget and I just
remembered it.
So why doesn't Bigfoot want tobe found?

Speaker 2 (22:16):
You know what?
I had this conversation withJohn Benderneagle.
He's already passed.
He passed a couple couple yearsago.
But he was a wildlife biologistfor British Columbia University
and he's got one of the bestbooks that anybody could ever
read if they want to starttalking about or thinking about

(22:36):
Bigfoot.
But I cornered him somewhere atthis Bigfoot conference and I
asked him why can't we find aBigfoot?
And he goes.
Well, bob, he says you have tothink like a deer has very high
senses of smell, sight andhearing.

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A Bigfoot is the same way, butit's got a big brain and so if
it doesn't want to be found,it's not going to be found,
because if you come into an areaand he knows that you're coming
, he can smell you coming, he'sgone and he's always you know.
He told me that and then Iasked him this question.
I said how come we can neverfind a body?

(23:21):
He says well, he goes.
I know there's grizzly bears.
I know there's grizzly bearsand there's black bears.
He goes.
But I've been all over thewoods I've never seen bones, but
I know ravens and vultures andfalcons and coyotes and wolves

(23:44):
and stuff.
So that's what he told me and Igo.
Man, that really made sense.
So he's, you know, he told methat and he's, you know, he's
studied and he's he'sinterviewed hundreds and
hundreds and thousands of people.
So, you know, I I really likedtalking to him because, you know
, here I was just a nobody and Iwas asking him questions and I

(24:06):
was telling him, like you know,my ideas, and he'd pull out a
pad and a pen and he startedwriting down what I was saying.
Now, granted, he probably neverused it, but it just made me
feel good that he was doing that.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
You know I do that a lot, Like when you're talking.
I'll start jotting down notesbecause I'm like, oh, that's a
good idea.
I got to hang on to that foranother time, so it must be
something about you that youradiate.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
I don't know, but thank you.
That's one of the highestcompliments I could, and getting
it from you, I oh, stop.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Okay, so back to the.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Bigfoot thing.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I can't let you be stroking my ego too much,
because then I just get on myhigh horse and then my family
gets mad at me that I think I'mso special.
So anyway so Bigfoot withnobody seeing him and his
remains not being there.
So the debate Mackie and I werehaving is could it be because
there is some extraterrestrialcomponent to Bigfoot?

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Yes, they could be.
What do you think?
I'm asking what you think aboutthat.
What I think is that I'vetalked to Choctaw natives.
I've talked to see Choctaw andthere was another one.
I can't think of it right nowbut I've talked to Native
American people and so theybelieve it's spiritual and they

(25:26):
also believe in aliens as well.
So whenever I first started witha group, their ideal or their
kind of pounding to you thatBigfoot is flesh and blood, and
so once I left that group and Istarted doing stuff on my own,
started interviewing otherpeople, then you kind of run

(25:47):
into the realm.
I was telling you earlier thatparanormal and Bigfoot kind of
run almost a real thin line,because I've been in the woods
hundreds of times and I've runinto stuff that I cannot explain
.
I don't know if it's paranormal, I don't know if it's explain,
I don't know if it's paranormal,I don't know if it's UFO, I
don't know if it's Bigfoot, butI've had weird, weird things

(26:08):
happen to me and I just thinkthat there's a thin line between
Bigfoots, possibly aliens, ormaybe supernatural or paranormal
stuff.
So I was telling you before Ithink there's theories on
Bigfoots that can do infrasound,where they can paralyze a deer

(26:31):
or a person or whatever.
That's in theory.
And then there's EMF.
I've talked to you about thatas well In paranormal the
government, yeah.
Yeah, so there's theories thatwhenever ghosts manifest, they
give off EMF.
So that's the theory for that.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Ghosts give off EMF.
Is that like leftover energykind of thing?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Yeah.
So it's almost like say, forexample, you have a haunted
house and then there's a powerline coming in from the, from
the power pole to your housethen, or maybe even like a um
electrical box so that gives offEMF.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the word I was trying tothink of yes.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
So there's, there's that, so there's, there's all
these things, so there's that,so there's all these things.
And so everybody reacts.
Similar with EMF and alsoinfrasound.
So people get headaches, theyget nauseated, they get fearful,
they get lightheaded.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
What does it stand for?
Whatever it's called?

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Electric magnetic field.
Okay, okay, yeah, that makessense.
So there's, so there's, there's, there's like, uh, like
whenever I do, whenever I firststarted doing bigfoot stuff,
kelly, um, I noticed thatthere's a lot of sightings by
electrical right-of-ways and Idon't know if you know what.
So, and then there's gasright-of-ways as well.
So there's like a clear cutthrough a county.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
With a lot of residual energy.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
So there is, and so there's a lot of sightings near
these, and then sometimes,whenever you want to find a
Bigfoot, you go find one ofthose and you always find, like
footprints, hair broken trees,hair broken trees we call them
tree stacks or wood stacks wheresupposedly there's like a
teepee of sticks just stucktogether, and so we'd always had

(28:33):
that theory that it's a way ofBigfoots communicating with
other Bigfoots.
So in this area you have EMF,and so it's always been my
theory that Bigfoots use this asa weapon, like they weaponize
it.
So if you're going down thiselectrical gas right away and

(28:54):
you see a Bigfoot, your fear isintensified completely, and I've
heard stories of people justrunning out screaming.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Or they don't stop, they just push the gas like oh
my gosh.
I just saw something crazy andI don't want to see anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
So that's, that's the theory on that stuff.
So, uh, I was pushed.
I've been pushing that since Ithink the last two years.
I've been, uh, kind of been oneof those people that said,
saying, hey, this is what Ithink, because I've done ghost
stuff and I've done cryptidstuff.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
And they kind of marry each other sometimes.
So if they found Bigfoot furwhen they study that, what do
they determine it is?

Speaker 2 (29:35):
So that's a really good question.
So I've done some research inParis, texas, and there was this
barbed wire fence that we hadalways thought that these
bigfoots were crossing onto thisguy's property.
And I had a friend of mine, uh,he had a contact at depaul
university and, uh, so we wouldgather these hairs and send it

(30:00):
to this guy.
We didn't tell him what it was,we just sent, sent it to him.
He wanted, he wanted study, youknow, extra studies, extra,
extra practice.
So we sent it to him and thenhe, uh like, responded back to
us and said how are youcollecting this?
Are you using your hands?
And at first we were.
And then he says, okay, well,it's, it's human contaminated,

(30:20):
it has human cells on it.
So then we started collecting itwith like, with like tweezers,
and then we would put it andthen send it to him.
And he says it's still humancontaminated.
What do you?
What do you use?
Are you using gloves?
Use, like, like a envelope.
And I go, okay, so we usetweezers, we use gloves, we put
it in like a envelope, we sentit to him.

(30:41):
He says this is still humancontaminated.
What is the deal?
So we finally told him what itwas it's Bigfoot hair and he
just stopped communicating withus.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
So every time we he stopped communicating with you
because he didn't like that.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
So he was.
He got scared and he didn'twant to be, he didn't want to be
part of it.
So, um, so, whatever we werecollecting, it had human DNA in
it.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
I don't know why, but it did so maybe it's a hybrid,
like a human with an alien.
It could be, I mean that couldbe bestiality if it's a human
and an animal.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah, cause I I had, I've had stories of I've talked
to people.
Oh, yeah, you told me aboutthat big penis one, I think the
lady who saw that, yeah, there's, there's another one that has
like a big penis in it as well Ithink we're the only podcast
that talks about bigfoot penis.
That's fine.
So you want to.
You want to hear that onereally quick yeah yeah, okay,

(31:39):
tell it.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So there was.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
We want to hear about penis, for sure so there was
this story of this lady uh, youknow it's, it's on this, uh,
bigfoot group.
I, you know it's on there, butI can't really use you know her
name or whatever, because itbelongs to them that's fine, but
but I was I was yeah, I was apart of that and like, uh, in a
investigation.

(32:01):
So it was this lady in Paris,texas.
Her and her boyfriend weregoing down this road, and so now
that road is covered with alake down like a man-made lake.
And so they were going downthis road and his truck broke
down.
He didn't have a spare, so hehad to walk into town to go get
help or go get a tow or whatever.

(32:22):
So she said I'm staying here.
So she slept in the front seatand while she was asleep she
said this thing came to herwindow, the driver's side window
, grabbed her ankle and tried topull her out and I said what
was it?
And she described everything.
She described its nipples, itsbelly button and its penis, and

(32:43):
she said it had hair everywhere.
Three most important body partsyes, and so she said it probably
lasted for like 30 seconds, butshe said it felt like forever.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
Well, yeah, 30 seconds in that, whatever
environment, that would feellike a long time.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, she said this thing was aroused and it was.
It was trying to pull herthrough this this car window or
this this truck window, and shehad like a.
This was like in the 60s, soshe had this like old coke.
Was she on lsd though?
Uh, she was.
You know, there was reports ofher being on on drugs before.
Okay, so there is that okay,and so she got this coke bottle

(33:25):
and started hitting its handwith that story yeah, she
started hitting with you know,you know, started hitting its
its hand with it, uh, with thiscoke bottle.
And she said, uh, these twoother big footsteps stepped out
of the woods and they were.
She said they were both female.
One of them was like pregnant,they had, they had breasts and
the and One of them was pregnant.
They had breasts and the onethat was pregnant was yelling at

(33:47):
the one male grabbing her.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
Like ah.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
Yeah, like screaming at her and so he stopped and all
three of them just walked intothe woods.
So we did interview her,probably about 20 years ago, and
we had six questions that wereall redundant.
We asked her like 300 questionsbut six of them were.
All was exactly how.
She said the abrasions on herankle and they said that she was

(34:26):
hysterical and all this stuff.
And then when we did theFreedom of Information Act with
the local PD, they lost the file.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
Convenient.

Speaker 2 (34:36):
Yeah, so that one was pretty intense to do that one
because that's probably the mostphysical contact I've ever
taken on a Bigfoot sightingreport.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
And do people usually see more than one Bigfoot at a
time?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Okay, I guess I didn't think that I always just
thought it was a solo.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, usually if you see one and they want to get you
out of an area, you shouldalways look behind you, because
there's probably more, becauseit's probably trying to trying
to get you out of this area,yeah, the family.
So, uh, I've had multiplepeople tell me that that they've
seen multiple bigfoots, andthere was one, I think, my, our

(35:21):
friend has anyone seen a babybigfoot?
yeah, there was.
Uh, there was one.
Was that a baby one?
No, that wasn't a baby, it wasa younger bigfoot.
There was a story that myfriend matt on his show, was
talking about.
Uh, this lady was in I forgotwhat state it was, but she was
she was in a camper, her husbandhad gone in like in the town to

(35:42):
go work or find work and, uh,she went out.
She heard crying and she wentout of her, her camper and went
down to the creek and it wasthis.
There was this little bigfoot.
It was bleeding and it was hurtand it was like it looked like.
She said it looked like a, likea compound fracture, a bone
sticking out blood coming outand she said that this she could

(36:04):
fear some.
she could feel someone runningbehind her and she got down and
this Bigfoot jumped right overher, jumped right over her and
then his, his, her descriptionwas that she could see its penis
and its balls.
And so we kind of said, we kindof called that one the
teabagger.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I hope she had her mouth closed when she looked up.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
So this, this Bigfoot , jumped over her, grabbed the
baby, scooped up the baby andtook off running.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Was there any blood left behind?
Because then they could haveput that on a slide.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I believe so, but I don't think I don so, but I
don't think she went back.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
Too freaked out.
That's what happens.
Everyone gets scared and thenyou can't find it.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Yep, so those are some interesting stories, right.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, it is fun, though I don't want to have to
have a story like that, but wow,okay, another folklore creature
, the, the jersey devil.
So what's the legend of jerseydevil?

Speaker 2 (37:07):
you know, I don't.
I don't know it per se likecompletely, but I do know there
was.
It was from a, the dutchimmigrants and the I can't
remember, I think the lady'sname was raiding chicken coops,
destroying crops and killinganimals.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
I'm not a fan.
Yeah, I think I think thelady's name was Leeds Raiding
chicken coops, destroying cropsand killing animals.
I'm not a fan.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Yeah, I think the family is.
I think they're called theLeeds.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
Yep, the Leeds.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
I can't think of her first name, but she had 12 kids.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
She had 12 kids and then she cursed her body for
being Overwhelmed by her 13thchild, cursed it to be a devil
yes, and supposedly it came outand it was born deformed born
deformed and then flew away,supposedly yes, so that was in
1735 yes, so it's, it's, it'sbeen all over.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
there's people who I've never seen any footage of
any Jersey Devil, but I am sointrigued with it.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
That area of Jersey.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
It's like there's so much paranormal stuff happened
there.
It's just crazy.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
I think that if I had 13 kids, I would probably have
lost my mind and needed to go tothe psych ward.
So you know, there's that Maybewith her 13th child her uterus
also came out and that's whatshe thought was the devil
Probably.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
yeah, that's pretty bad right.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Do people see it?
It looks like sightings arepretty rare.
Yeah, it's been some time sincelivestock killings, but nothing
really, nothing really recent1909 um there were some
sightings back then south jerseyand philadelphia and it led to
when they saw the jersey devil.

(38:57):
It led to school closures,worker absences and vigilante
groups trying to hunt this thing.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
Yeah, I think that area was I could be wrong here.
I think it was like a highProtestant group maybe, so they
were strongly believed indemonic stuff and they took it
seriously back then.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Some people think it was a sandhill crane or a
kangaroo yeah, yeah, I've heardthat story too, yeah that's
interesting that I never heardof that at all.
So that one is superinteresting to me now in my in
my time for, um, this is more ofan urban legend, but slenderman

(39:42):
I remember when mccoy waslittle he was really into
slenderman and, um, I rememberhaving to like have a really
serious talk with him about itbecause you know, they came up
with a movie.
There was, I think, a video gameand these girls like didn't
they kill themselves forslenderman?

Speaker 2 (40:01):
They killed somebody.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
They killed somebody.
Yeah, creepy, so Slenderman?
Yes, very tallizing individuals, especially preys on children
associated with forest andabandoned areas with abilities

(40:30):
to teleport.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Wow, yeah, there's this show called Paranormal
Caught on Camera.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
I don't know if you've ever watched that.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
It's on Travel Network and there is an episode
of some kids that were in Iforgot what state it was, but
they were looking for Slendermanand they found a doll that was
wrapped in plastic up in a tree.
And then the guy turns thecamera and I don't know how much
this is AI or whatever, but youcould see a tall person with no

(41:05):
face and they just take offrunning, so I forget what it's
called.
It's like whenever you thinkabout something so much and it
conjures itself.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, it says Slender man controls humans, known as
proxies, does that make sense.
Yeah, but with Slender man,like, right, no-transcript.
There's the internet andthere's the viral spread, right.
And then that inspires there'sfan fiction and people get

(41:40):
obsessed with it more so thanthey could back then, right,
because we didn't have thetechnology that we have now.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Right, they call it creepypasta.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
For real.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, they call it creepypasta where they're, like
I was telling you they.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Where they get in your mind.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, I've never heard of that, like there's
another word for it.
I can't think of it right now.
It's, um, I just can't think ofit where you, you conjure
something in your own mind andthen it becomes reality like you
manifest it yeah, almost that,that way okay, so I've heard.
I've heard many people likepeople tell me that people have

(42:18):
always told me that because youknow you're going to see what
you want to see.
Yeah, and people see like, likeI was telling you earlier,
people see orbs or they seeshadow people or they see full
body aberrations or they will,like, see mist.
It just depends on.
You know, my mom was alwaysagainst me going out to go do
bigfoot stuff.
She was always against it.
And she to go do Bigfoot stuff,she was always against it.

(42:39):
And she had to pray for me,like before I left, all the time
and she says you know I don'twant you doing this, but I can't
stop you.

Speaker 1 (42:49):
Has she come around now or is she still like a
skeptical and doesn't like it?

Speaker 2 (42:54):
No, she's actually a big supporter of the podcast, so
she listens.
She's actually called into thepodcast like numerous times and
she knows I'm doing a show andshe'll call Mom, I'm doing the
podcast.
Yeah, and I'll keep itrecording and I go.
Mom, you're on the show, shegoes hey.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
She knows, though right, because she knows you're
doing the show, and so she knowsshe's calling and she knows
you're going to answer.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Yeah, she's actually been on like a episode, so she's
got a lot of paranormal stuff.
Oh, thank you, she's got a lot.
She's got a lot of paranormal.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
You'll have to tell me which one that is.
I don't know if I haven'tlistened to it yet or if I just
didn't know.
If I don't remember, I'll sendit to you.
It so the shadow people.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
I really didn't know a lot about that, but they
accompany strong feelings ofintense dread or fear and they
are the explanation for sleepparalysis to be a part of a
paranormal group and there wassome people in the group that

(43:58):
would always lean toward demonicand there was a lot of other
people who didn't.
So there was always a fightbetween shadow people, whether
it was demonic or not.
I have a tendency to believethere is energies in people's
houses, or if someone diespretty bad in an area, there's
energy there.
It's always stored, and sowhether dark entities kind of

(44:23):
get drawn to that and then hangout there, it's possible.
That's just my theory.
And then there's energies ofpeople who's passed on and
they're just not ready to go yetand sometimes they're there,
and so sometimes those lines getcrossed, uh, like if, like, for
example, someone, if someonecommits suicide into an area and

(44:43):
it's, there's a lot of energythere possible.
It's possible where you can getdemonic um entities attracted
to it, and so.
But I'm, you know, I'mcompletely open to lots of stuff
.
So I try to give people, uh,whenever I was a researcher and

(45:04):
investigator, I try to givepeople all the options that was
available for them.
So, uh, I would always keep anopen mind on, on trying to get
them help and try to try to suethem as much as possible I feel
like in the world we live inright, there's good people and

(45:25):
there's bad people so Idefinitely believe in good
spirits and bad spirits.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
So I mean, why would it be any difference?
And just like, if you want togo back to biblical times, right
, and if you want to go back tobiblical times, right, and if
you want to go back to angelsand demons, and I mean, it's in
the Bible that it was there.
So it just kind of depends onwhat you believe in and what you
want to believe.
And, like you said, people cansee and believe whatever they
want to see and believe andthat's fine.
But it is fascinating to hearpeople's beliefs.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
Yeah, stephen had a really.
Steven had a really cause, likehe was in Oklahoma city
recently and he had a.
he had a very interesting story.
He said that, uh, he was, hewas driving into town, he was in
this real small town and he wasdriving into Walmart to go get
some stuff to like to makebreakfast.
And he called me whenever ithappened.
Uh, and he was driving in townand he said he saw this vehicle.

(46:18):
It was a two lane road, it wasa vehicle passing him and he
said it was an older chevy, like50 something vehicle.
He says real noticeable,because it was really nice.
And he said the guy that wasdriving in there was, uh, he was
dressed like in a suit and hewas like smiling, driving the
opposite way.
And so he goes oh, look at thatcar, it's a really nice car.
And so he goes oh, look at thatcar, it's a really nice car.

(46:39):
And so he sees him passing.
He looks at the mirror, therear view mirror, and there's no
vehicle there and there's noway it could have turned off.
Anyway.
He goes there was no turn offanywhere.
So he says he goes, I'mfreaking out right now.
I said, okay, well, I go, heprobably died on that road,

(47:00):
whoever it was, and he was happywith that vehicle.
So I go.
We got to research that, we gotto look up the newspaper, the
local newspaper, to see ifanybody passed there.
Maybe we can come across thisguy.
So he had that recently so hewas telling me about it and
sometimes he and I will havethese things happen to each

(47:22):
other.
We'll kind of consult oneanother and kind of get ideas
off of it and stuff.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Beetlejuice when I was a kid, but I never realized.
The whole premise of the moviewas the fact that they lived in
that house, they were cominghome, they died on that bridge
and then I never understood allthat.
And then they were ghosts intheir own house.
And then, when I got older andI watched it again, I was like
what?

Speaker 2 (47:56):
That is a classic movie.
I love that movie a lot.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
I don't like that.
They remade it, but anyway, Iloved it as a kid and yeah, I
just remember like getting olderand being like I never knew
that's what was going on.
I just thought why are thesepeople in their house?

Speaker 2 (48:10):
yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
I miss the big picture yeah, that's actually.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
they follow, like all the theories on whether you
know you get stuck in the houseand you can't leave.
It's interesting, okay.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
So the other thing I wanted to talk to you about was
I'm trying not to watch theclock, robert, but I do Aliens.
So me and Mackie were havingthis conversation when we were
talking about Bigfoot and if hewas extraterrestrial or not.
But do you think that there's Idon't want to say people, but

(48:46):
creatures I don't even know theright word entities from other
planets among us?

Speaker 2 (48:53):
You know, I think you know, I've talked to a couple.
You know I've always believedthat that's the first thing.
I've always believed thatthere's entities from other
planets.
And then I've talked to, likemany, many psychics and like
some psychics can helpparanormal stuff or demonic

(49:13):
stuff.
But I've heard two of them sayif it's alien stuff, I can't
help you, sorry, you just youjust can't, you can't win there.
So if you move, they'll find you.
If you, if you uh move to adifferent state, they'll find
you.
If you try to hide somewhereelse, they'll like find you, no

(49:34):
matter what.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
So is it something like they know?
The psychic people know aboutit, but they are too scared to
say anything because they don'twant to be like I think.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
I think there's issues I think there's issues
with like time time and whetheryou try to help them.
They can like reverse time andthey haven't said that.
But I've heard them say youknow, you, just you can't, can't
mess with them because they'realmost like interdimensional.
So if you, if you try toresolve it, they can change it

(50:07):
where you didn't even likeresolve it, if that even makes
sense yeah, well, because, likeright, maybe they're light years
away yeah, so, or if it's, itcould be people that are from
the future coming back to checkon us.
Could be that you know.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Yeah, I never thought of that, but because, yeah,
they always are like, oh yeah,that's light years away, we're
looking into the future.
We're looking into the past orwhatever, when you're looking at
other planets.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
I mean there's there's been like people who've
talked.
I've talked to some people thatthink they've seen Bigfoots
step into a portal.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
You know and I interviewed one guy that he said
that he saw a Bigfoot like inOklahoma and then when it
crossed the road it stepped intoa portal and the portal was
like Arctic and it stepped inthe portal and just disappeared.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
And the portal disappeared too.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
So then I've interviewed people that said,
you know, hey, this Bigfootstepped into the woods and the
woods swallowed it up.
I go well, what do you meanswallowed it up?
He says, well, these trees wereskinny and I should have been
able to see it, like throughthese trees, and I couldn't.
It just stepped into the woodsand it just disappeared.
But he goes, but I could hearit, I could see it moving trees,

(51:17):
but I couldn't see it.
So I've had that.
I mean, I've had that, and it'sjust like you know, when you
try to find answers, you getmore questions.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Max here because we're going to do a.
Would you rather now?

Speaker 2 (51:30):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
We're doing a would you rather.
Yeah, I thought you'd want tomaybe do your old bit.
Okay, I don't have one, thoughI do, so I'm going to ask the
question, but first I want youto say hi to everybody and
reintroduce yourself to thepodcast.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
Hi, my name is Mac Dog McCoy, whatever you want to
call me.
I haven't been here for like amonth, maybe two, but I guess
I'm here, for my part, I guess.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
All right.
So we're talking about Bigfootand paranormal.
So here's the would you ratherfor you and Robert, and I know
what it is and I honestly don'tknow what I would pick.
So I'm excited to see what youguys say.
Would you rather spend thenight in a haunted asylum or
ghost, you're talking themicrophone so like an old asylum
, so like attacking themicrophone, so like an old

(52:19):
asylum, so like an old,abandoned like mental hospital?
Okay, all right.
So would you rather spend thenight in a haunted asylum or go
searching for Bigfoot in thewoods alone?

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Oh, dude, I don't know, that's hard.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
So you used to be obsessed with wanting to spend
the night in abandoned buildingsand not being scared.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I know If I were to do it with someone it'd be fun,
but you have to do it alone.
I have to do either one of themalone.
Yes, I'll hunt for Bigfoot then.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
Bigfoot.
Bob, are you hunting forBigfoot?

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I've done that.
I've done Bigfoot in the woodsby myself.
I've done it, but here, so I'vedone it.
But you know, here's the thingabout I'd rather do paranormal
stuff, because then you wouldhave a roof over your head.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
See, I thought about that too.
But what if you get an intenseheadache?

Speaker 2 (53:05):
Yeah, I just take some Tylenol.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
I know you can't hear it.
You would just bring a bunch ofTylenol and ibuprofen with you
in case you got sick, just moveto a different room.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Yeah, of course.
So when I was thinking of myanswer, like first, I was like,
well, I'd go in the woodsbecause I love to be outside and
I feel like pretty much, if youdon't bother things, they're
not going to bother you.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
But then I thought like, oh, if I spent the night
inside, at least I would have aroof over my head and shelter,
Right, but there could be ratsand snakes and icky water and
bacteria, or the snake at thecar show.
Why don't you tell the story?
So I hate snakes.
This is you know.
This is what we do.
Sidebar so we were walkingaround at this place the other

(53:51):
day and I hate snakes and all ofa sudden I saw this lady.
She had this huge snake on herand I was like climbing up,
mackie, I was like it was sofunny and then I'm like don't, I
don't want to go back by thatlady with the snake, and it was
getting dark so then youcouldn't see and then we were
like walking.
He's like mom, there's a snake.
And I'm like I just gotten madbecause you just do it to piss

(54:12):
me off it was funny, though youpunched me because you're like
mad, or something I did.
Punch you yeah I don't.
I don't like snakes either, Idon't know, no, okay, do you
want to say goodbye?

Speaker 3 (54:24):
yeah, see you later, I don't know when soon see you
back in september, septemberokay, maybe depends on how you
feel I guess I mean I, I wouldalways do a podcast well, you
want to come back?

Speaker 1 (54:40):
yeah, I guess yeah well, you're welcome anytime, it
is your show all right, allright, bye, get out of here.
Shut the door.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
No, don't let them in here so I, I was just gonna say
, like I used to do a lot ofBigfoot stuff in the woods by
myself with other people and wewould get separated and say, Bob
, you know you go to this creekand we'll go over here.
So I used to do it all the timeand so whenever I joined this
paranormal group, the lady thatwas running it, she says I need

(55:11):
someone to go to the attic bythemselves, and I go, I'll do it
.
I raise my hand, I'll do it.
I need someone to go to theattic by themselves and I go,
I'll do it.
I raise my hand, I'll do it.
Bob, are you sure?
I said Kendall, I've been increek beds and, like you know
areas all by myself in the woods.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Yeah, I just went to the attic.

Speaker 1 (55:27):
In the woods.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
No, it was a haunted house.
Oh, in a haunted house.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
I thought you were in the woods.
I'm sorry, what don't I knowabout?

Speaker 2 (55:37):
Yeah, so I've done stuff in the woods and then,
like, whenever I was doingparanormal stuff at this house,
we're investigating this house.
She says I need someone to goto the attic.
I said, okay, I'll go, I'll doit.
She goes are you sure I go?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:01):
I've been in the woods.
Mackie would pick.
What did he say he would.
I don't even know what he saidthat he wanted.
I think he wanted to do theasylum no, I think he said the
woods because he wouldn't do theasylum by himself oh, I see
okay alright, I think that's italright so huge.
Thank you, no problem, andthanks for not disappearing back

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