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When Kelli's son Mac ditches the podcast for summer fun, she brings in the "slightly unhinged" Emily as guest co-host for an episode that careens between book recommendations, serious social commentary, and hilarious tangents.

The conversation opens with a deep dive into psychological thrillers, including "Phantom Limb" by Lucinda Berry—a novelist who draws from her experience as a child trauma psychologist. This leads to a fascinating discussion about childhood resilience and the profound impacts of early trauma. The hosts explore the complexities of mental health conditions like OCD and autism, offering thoughtful perspectives on how neurological differences affect both those diagnosed and their loved ones.

In a standout segment, Kelli delivers a passionate PSA about birth control misconceptions, emphasizing that "pulling out is Russian roulette" and that condoms, vasectomies, and tubal ligation all count as legitimate birth control methods. The conversation shifts to the complex topic of elective abortion, with both hosts expressing concerns about how political polarization has created dangerous conditions for healthcare workers.

The episode lightens up with a hilarious breakdown of newly announced Minnesota State Fair foods (mostly disappointments), debates about the meaning of "doozy," and a surprisingly practical discussion about a post-intimacy hygiene product called the "drip stick." Throughout it all, Kelli and Emily's chemistry shines as they navigate both heavy topics and lighthearted banter with equal authenticity.

Whether you're looking for book recommendations, candid conversations about reproductive health, or just want to hear two friends dissect bizarre fair foods with brutal honesty, this episode delivers with warmth, humor, and zero filter. Listen now and join the conversation by sharing your thoughts on these topics!


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, hey, welcome back to On Our Best Behavior,
the podcast where we try to keepit classy but usually end up in
chaos.
I'm your host, kelly, and guesswhat?
Mac has officially ditched mefor the summer.
I guess teenage boys havebetter things to do than hang
with their mom, rude, but I amnot alone.
Joining me today is my fabulous, hilarious and possibly

(00:22):
slightly unhinged special gospecial guest co-host emily
slightly unhinged emily's hereto help me hold it together or
completely derail this episode.
We'll see how it goes.
We've got hot takes, weirdstories and maybe even a little
wisdom.
No promises, buckle up, friends.
This is gonna be a good one.

(00:43):
All right, em.
What's been up since we lastdid an episode together?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Oh, reading Saving Noah yeah, which was one of the
heaviest books I've ever read.
I started watching DowntonAbbey for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Okay, I don't like historical, anything you don't
like period, anything, so periodpieces or anything.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
It's very much like gilded age and I'm obsessed.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's so good um, how come you never watched it before
I?

Speaker 2 (01:14):
didn't really I don't .
I honestly don't know.
I it came out in what I thinklike 2010.
I never really paid attentionto it.
I, I think you know, back in2010,.
That was a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
You had better things to do.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I did.
I mean I was at the barpartying and like things like
that and like there wasn'treally streaming services.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
So it wasn't.
There's been Netflix for a longtime.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, but I don't think I had it back then, I
think.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
I've been a Netflix member since like 2002.
My sister used to do themail-in one yeah, I did that too
before you could stream, andthen once you could stream it
was a game changer.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh yeah, no, I mean now that now that I can stream,
that's all I can do, and whenthe internet's out I lose my
mind.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Oh yeah, that's right , how long was your internet out
?
A whole weekend, a whole Friday, saturday.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Sunday yeah, oh, I couldn't do it.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, it was like a whole.
Well, I guess you can still uselike your did you use?

Speaker 2 (02:08):
your phone as a hotspot.
I did OK To hook my iPad up fora little bit and stuff like
that, and then I was like, well,I'll just read, have music and
podcasts on, but it was.
I was like this is what my lifewas like a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Did they refund you at all?
I always think it's reallyridiculous when they don't,
because that's a long time andprime time it was a whole outage
for CenturyLink.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
So my coworker had the same issue in Maple Grove.
I don't pay for that, so Idon't know.
Yeah, my she.
It was.
My coworker had an issue inMaple Grove.
Her in-laws had an issue likeit was a whole century link
issue, so gross yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
So you, you got to read saving noah.
I did.
Oh, and then I wanted to tellyou quick about downtown abby
that wendy was telling me todaythat in two days she finished
the women by christian hannahand I'm like oh, that historical
fiction bitch, I can't readthat it has been one of the top
books the last two years.
I go that book got a lot of hypeand she goes.

(03:07):
I loved it.
She goes the story.
She's like it's not like a bigmystery twist, but there's like
a lot of little twists and Ijust didn't want to stop reading
.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
So when I went to Endometriosis the musical, a
couple weeks ago I went with myco-worker and her
daughter-in-law, which thatmusical was absolutely amazing,
super funny, super funny, veryreal.
Like I got a little emotionaltowards the end because it was
just like gaslighting,gaslighting, gaslighting.
And finally someone listenedand like that was me, with my
whole diagnosis.
I was gaslit for years of like,oh, it's nothing, this is

(03:37):
nothing, you're fine,everything's fine.
And then all of a sudden DrNoyes was like no, this is what
you have.
And she was right, but she's areader too, her daughter-in-law.
So we were talking and she wassaying we were talking about how
much we both love Kristen Hannaand she's like you have to read
the Women.
And I was like it's on my list.
She's like, no, you haven'tread it.
No, not yet it's the only onethat I Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
I'm like I swear that you've read all of her books,
nightingale the Great.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
Alone Four Winds, even ones that aren't that
popular.
I've read them Homefront.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
So why not the?

Speaker 2 (04:12):
women.
I've heard it's really intense.
Okay so, but you know, nothingbeats Saving Noah from an
intense level.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah, there you go.
Just go to that next and you'llbe fine.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
I told you when I finished saving Noah that I
needed a like palate cleanser,and so I'm reading the Wedding
People right now.
It came out like last year andit's about this woman who goes
to a hotel because she wants tokill herself but it turns out
that she wasn't actuallysupposed to be at the hotel
because this bride rented outthe entire hotel.

(04:41):
But her and the bride becomefriends and like.
It's this whole laughter andlike, realizing that there's
more to life than like becauseshe was going through a divorce
and all of these things.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
So it's actually really good yeah, that actually
seems interesting and I like it.
You know me, I like one genreyeah, no, this one.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I actually really like this one.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
It was a book of the month that I got a couple years
or last year so, since we're onthe book kick, I let me tell you
all the books I've read sincewe last recorded you read way
more than I do because I listen,so I can do so many things at
one time and I really like thatmakes me feel more like if I
read, then I feel more likeproductive yeah, and like your

(05:19):
brain is focused on something,yeah and I'm really good.
Like a lot of people say theycan't listen because they can't
like make their brain focus onthat, and I really can hone in
on like in my mind I can't so Iread phantom limb.
phantom limb by lucinda berryyes, I've heard that's a really
good one, so good.
So it's about these twin girlswho were born to a mother who

(05:41):
neglected them, would leave themlike in their crib for days oh,
my gosh.
Only ever fed them bread andformula and they, like, tried to
make pasta one day when she wasgone and started the apartment
on fire.
And that's how they got found.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
And I don't know if they were four or five, but
their teeth were all rotted outbecause they've only ever had
formula and some bread here andthere.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
You know, there's an actual, like real life case
right now about three kids beingabandoned by their mother for
about seven, eight years and the.
I can't remember why they gotcaught, but mom would drop off
food every week and that was it.
And like when the police wentinto the house, there was feces
everywhere, they were sleepingon pizza boxes.

(06:28):
All of these things neverfingernails never cut like hair,
never washed, there's norunning water.
All of these things.
She neglected all three of herchildren.
I want to say about five toseven years.
It was a long time.
At least she fed them, butstill them.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
But still yeah, well, and then like, this is right,
this is fake, so this is just astory.
But it talks about how, like,she never let them use the
toilet, so then they ended updiscovering, like, because she
wouldn't let them leave theirroom oh.
So then they would like theyfound like some bucket or
something to be able to go tothe bathroom.
And because they would sit inthe potty train themselves,
because their diapers would justbe, they'd sit in it which is
scary, because lucinda berrywrites novels based off of her

(07:07):
experience as a child traumapsychologist, but can you
imagine the child abuse andneglect that you see?
I can't.
I can never work in that fieldit's fascinating for me to read,
but I cannot imagine likenumber one.
As a mom, I could not imagineever treating a child like that.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
I could never imagine being a child like that nope it
, it is the worst form ofinhumane punishment.
Like it is, it is.
Oh gosh, it's to think about isjust gross, it's so gross, but
at the same time it's stillgross.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
But then we were talking about um, how like the
human species is like theweakest species ever.
Yep, big giraffes will be bornand they can like walk within
minutes of being born.
Yeah, they just get up and walkand and they you know the moms
take care of them for like theminimum, and then they're like
you're on your own, yeah, and Imean cats and dogs are so
dependent too, we are sodependent and I don't know, weak

(08:07):
, fragile, I don't know.
The human race isn't?
I don't know if it's becausewe're so enabled, but in that
situation, when you have tosurvive, these kids do.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, they really do.
They become very resilient inthe worst of times, but they
also right.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
They don't know how to love Nope.
They don't know how to care.
They don't know how tosocialize, they don't.
They don't know how to live.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
And that's the thing too, and that's what's scary
about all of it, is howresilient they are, but at the
end of the day, just being ahuman being, they don't know how
to just do normal things, soknow how to just do normal
things.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
so this book goes on to talk about how they pretty
much need each other okay tosurvive, yeah, oh, especially
there are they twins.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, that's a whole other connection that I mean we
can't speak on by any means, butyeah and the mom would like let
men in their room for moneyokay, oh yeah, so it talks,
about how they deal with thatI'm gonna.
I'm gonna need a while before Ican read that yeah so just a
heads up.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I mean, what's trigger?
trigger warning okay, this is anold book, also movie.
Uh, have you ever heard of this?
Because I didn't turtles allthe way down, no, okay.
So this girl this is not like athriller at all, but this girl
has OCD, okay, um, and it justkind of go.
So I ended up wanting to watchthe.

(09:31):
I don't know how I even foundthe book, but sometimes I like
mental health situations.
So, anyway, this girl, her daddies, she already had OCD then
he really did well with helpingher with her OCD and her mom
always like, struggled tounderstand it.
Okay, uh, so it's kind oftalking about, talking about and
showing like how she deals withthings and she's got a best

(09:51):
friend who is very aware andsupportive of her disorder, yeah
, and then, like they canthere's like one another, an
adventure that happens and likewhatever a guy that comes along
and it's just very interestingto see how her diagnosis and
she's very aware of it uh, howit affects her life, those are

(10:12):
such and how it affects everyonearound her life yeah, those
types of books, documentaries,things like that.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's so fascinating, like I am so engulfed in like
mental health and how importantit is and having things like OCD
or even anxiety, depression,and how it can just affect your
daily life every single day andit does, it consumes this girl.
Yeah, I mean as someone whostruggles with anxiety and

(10:43):
depression.
There are times where it justconsumes me and I can't think
about anything else except forthe bad stuff.
And I I know OCD is reallyscary and this.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
It also really shines a light on how she has OCD and
so that's all she can focus on.
Is her OCD right?
And then the people in her life.
They understand that and theysupport that.
But there's a point in thestory where they try to show her
like you are so selfish becauseall you can think about is the

(11:18):
things that you're obsessivelycomposed about.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
It's almost.
You know.
I sometimes see autism being asimilar thing, where you know
they can't under.
You know autistic peoplestruggle with social cues and
having a filter and things likethat.
And if you're with someone whois autistic, you know some
people that I know are marriedto an autistic person and it can

(11:44):
get so frustrating but likeit's their autism and it's like
they say things that are hurtfulbut their intention is not to
be hurtful.
It's just they can't filter it,like they physically don't know
how they're not deliberatelybeing mean and in the tone that
they say it in, notintentionally to be in a wrong

(12:05):
tone or whatever the case may be.
And as someone who doesn't haveautism has very little
experience with it, my immediatebrain is like why are they
treating this person like this?
Why are they treating theirloved one like this?
And I have to sit back andthink like their brain does not
work the way that someone else'sbrain is, and I have to

(12:25):
remember that, like when I'mhearing these stories and stuff,
I'm just like oh they're somean.
How do you put up with it?
That's my immediate thought andI'm like wait, no, okay.
No, they are a human.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Their brain works in a different way than mine and I
have to remember that that istough and people don't walk
around with a sign that sayslike I have ocd, yeah, I have
autism, yep, I have personalitydisorder, yeah, so you don't.
You don't know.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Invisible diseases are so real and they have such a
stigma, because just becauseyou physically can't see that
there's something going on,doesn't mean that there's not
something going on however, likeI mean this in the kindest kind
, most kind way Stereotypes area stereotype for a reason.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
So if somebody is rude, like, you just think
they're rude, and then if youfind out like it's because they
have A, b or C, yep, Then it'slike, oh well, all people, like
all people that have that arerude, yep, yeah, even though
that's not the intention.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
That's not the intention.

Speaker 1 (13:21):
It's hard to over, even though that's not the
intention that's not theintention.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
It's hard to over, it's hard for that to be
overcame.
Yeah, especially when we havelike a neurotypical mindset.
You know, I think that's partof it too is having a
neurotypical mindset.
You're always like, well, youcan get over that, or you know
you can not be that way and it'slike I can, can they?
I genuinely don't think theycan.
I, I genuinely don't think theycan.
I don't think their brainallows them to have the skills
to be better in certain aspects.

Speaker 1 (13:48):
Well, that's the thing.
Like brains are, so everyone'sbrain is different so complex,
and different people can utilizedifferent parts of their brain
and not others, and there's justso much.
It's so complex.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
Like I can never use the creativity or artistic side
of my brain.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
Yes, you can.
You build Legos.
You craft Following directions.
Use the creativity or artisticside of my brain.
Yes, you can you build legos.
Can you craft followingdirections?
I can't do that.
I don't have the patience forit.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
it's the one time it shuts my add off, but we'll see.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I follow directions mackie is good at that too, like
if you give him very specificlike building furniture and
things like that and mackie'sreally good at that.
Like we need to do that togetherbecause I have the logical
brain and he has the or maybeit's he has the like he can see
things from a different way thanI can see them, if that makes
sense.
Yeah, okay, have you read thisone, the surrogate mother, by

(14:37):
frida frida mcfadden?
No, I have it, though.
Good, I just finished it and,and it's good, okay, but same
situation where this lady, oh,no, no, no, no, this is the next
book.
So anyway, yeah, it's good, youcan kind of Clearly somebody
wants to get pregnant and theycan't.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Okay, and then kind of Okay.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Somebody ends up being a surrogate for them, and
then it's a Frida twist.
So something happens.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
It.
I mean, I love a good Fridastory.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
And Frida never fails , in my opinion.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
You haven't read the Third Housewife.
I haven't.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
But I don't count that because it's a sequel.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Yeah, it's part of a series and it just it was.
Yeah, it was disappointing.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
But did you know that Frida McFadden is a doctor?
She's a neurosurgeon.
I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Somebody just told me at work this week all bad.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Somebody just told me at work this week.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, she's an, I think, neurosurgeon.
Yeah, some kind of in new york,yeah.
So I wonder if frida's got it.
Frida mcfadden's cannot be herreal name, like she wouldn't
have this.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
She looks like a frida.
Have you seen what she lookslike?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
yeah, she does.
She's got like short blackbrown hair, dark brown hair with
glasses, and stuff like that,and she also looks like a neural
something or another.
Yeah, yeah, as someone whoworks with a lot of neurologists
, she kind of does have thatlook, you know, I've been told
by some people that I work with,like you, have to be a little
neurotic and crazy to be aneurologist.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
I always say that about surgeons Like you.
Have to be a little psycho tocut people open.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
You have to be narcissistic to be a surgeon,
Like that is 100% it and I'mlike, okay, if Frida writes the
twisted messed up stuff that shedoes, that explains how she is
a neurosurgeon, or I want to sayit's neurosurgeon.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
And I also wonder, like I mean clearly like the
stories that she writes aren'twhat she deals with as a doctor,
but I'm sure, like some of thebrain stuff that she writes
about, oh, absolutely.
OK, so the last book that I'veread that I just finished is
called Imaginary Strangers.
This is another one of myfavorite writers, minka Kent.
Have you ever heard of her?

(16:29):
She writes really good books.
No, uh-uh.
So this book is about a womanwho is a sociopath, who had a
traumatic childhood.
Her mom tried to auction offher virginity oh my God.
And then, when she refused todo it because she was like 17,
the mom's like well, you canhave half of the money, so
whatever.
So like, really fucked up.

(16:50):
Childhood made her a sociopath.
Now she she gets married to thislike super successful doctor.
Yeah, has two kids of her own,vows to never be a bad mom,
never treat them poorly.
Even though she struggles withlove she has like the acting
down pat yep big twist.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Yep, she's terrified of her mom, because her mom is
still alive interesting so she'salways afraid her mom is gonna
find her oh, like she, her momdoesn't know that she where she
lives, or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
But well, she.
She is always worried that hermom is gonna find her, but I
don't want to, I don't want togive away too much, so, anyway,
that's super good.
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Speaker 1 (18:19):
All right, so I got some heavy topics, uh-oh.
First of all, lightheartedlybut serious, this is my PSA for
the podcast.
Okay, vasectomy, condoms andhaving your tubes tied counts as
birth control, sure, doesPeople say all the time.
When I say, do you use anymethod of birth control, they
say no.
I'm like, do you use condoms?
Oh, yeah, sometimes, or everytime.

(18:40):
Every time, do you use anymethod of birth control?
No, condoms?
Well, no, I don't need to.
My husband had a vasectomy.
Oh my gosh.
Do you use any method of birthcontrol?
No, why?
Why would I need birth control?
Well, you're only 38?
Yeah, but I had my tubes tiedfive years ago.
That that's birth control.

(19:01):
That is your birth controlmethod.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
People is not just control method.
People, Birth control is notjust a pill.
We need to know.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
It's not just an IUD.
Not just a pill, when you tellme when I say, what method of
birth control do you use, andyou say, oh, he pulls out and
jizzes on my tummy.
That is not an effective birthcontrol.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
I mean, I just it's a scary time for people to not
understand that it's scary.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Birth control is a method.
This generation is scary.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
It is a method.
A method To prevent babies.
Yeah, not a pill implant orpulling out.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
Or a shot, or a shot.
Pulling out is not a method.
That's Russian roulette.
That is, that is, you'replaying.
That's russian roulette.
That is, that is, you'replaying with fire, russian
roulette.
Yep, because also psa for youpeople who don't know there's
this thing called pre-cum.
Yep, the pre-drip is reallysaturated and there are some
with swimmers, strong swimmers.
So if you think he pulled outin time, nope, he got some

(20:01):
dribble in there, promise.
How do you think mackie wasborn?
No, just kidding.
Just kidding, he was immaculateconception, okay.
So what I really want to talkabout?
What about your sisters?
Though they came first, theywere immaculate conceptions too
okay, never wow, I didn't know.

(20:23):
Your family was so holy.
Jesus came down.
Jesus came down.
Jesus came down.
You missed our sidebarconversation about Jesus.
So what I want to talk about iselective abortion, Mm-hmm, Okay
.
So I had a situation come upand I'm going to be really vague
about it and I was like Ibelieve in elective abortion.

(20:46):
I think that you should be ableto have an abortion as long as
you don't use it as a birthcontrol method.
If you have had 10 abortionsand you don't care if you get
pregnant again with a number 11,because you're just going to
have an abortion, I don't thinkthat's healthy.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
That's irresponsible as a human being it is.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
It is Now.
If you something happened andyou need to have one abortion, I
get it.
Two abortions, Shit happens,but after that you should really
get it figured out.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, and I think there's also situational.
Yeah, there's situational.
There's miscarriages and thingslike that.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Like a DNC is an abortion and, in a way, it can
be like against what you wanted,though, because that is from a
miscarriage.
You could have a dnc, yep, yep.
So I'm not talking about that.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I'm talking about elective just elective, yeah,
just elective okay, so I'm finewith that.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Do I want to be able to help people with a
termination if they want one?
I do do.
But I'm so scared with thepolitical world because the
things that happened in BrooklynPark and Champlain People.
I'm for the government.
I'm not saying that I stand forwhat the government is now,

(21:58):
that I do or that I don't.
But the government is there fora reason and I think it's great
that we live in the UnitedStates and it's a free country.
But I don't think it's okaythat if you disagree with the
government, you're going to goand shoot someone.
You can just take matters intoyour own hands and decide I
don't like what you stand for.
I don't like what you stand for, I don't like what you did at

(22:20):
work and I don't like your kid,so I'm going to come to your
house and impose as a cop andkill all of you.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I don't think that that's fair, that that has to
affect the decisions that wemake in society to help people,
because you feel like you'reputting your life in danger,
because if you do help, it couldbe public information, because
your name is attached to saidmedical record and that's scary
in and of itself.
I mean, yeah, it shouldn't bethis way, like that's my thing

(22:57):
is.
It shouldn't be this way.
Whatever you want to do withyour body is your choice.
Do I personally believe if youhave 10 abortions, do I think
you need to do something betterabout your life and what you're
doing?
Yeah, I do, but I can't controlthat.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I'm not God, I don't get it.
I can judge you, but it doesn'tmatter what I think.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yes, and just you know, if I have different views
than someone like it, it havedifferent views than someone
like it.
The political world now hascreated such a divide that it's
one way or another and it's loveor hate.
And if you're not on my sidethen I absolutely hate you.
And like the agendas are sonegative now and like when you

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had approached me with thistopic a couple weeks ago, you
know I think you're damned ifyou do, damned if you don't, and
you know it could be the samething with medications or
vaccines or things like that,Like your name's attached to it
too, and people are justabsolutely insane, For real,
unhinged, Unhinged.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
For real.
And it's getting worse.
Not unhinged like us, for realunhinged.
Unhinged For real.
And it's getting worse.
Not unhinged like us, for realunhinged.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
They're not holding back anymore.
I would say 5, 10, 15 years ago, unhinged people would hold
back a little more.
Now that type of behavior ismore acceptable and more excused
.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
I would say Forgiven or excuses for it.
Yep, I just something needs tochange.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
I completely agree, and I'm not saying presidency
wise, because this has happenedregardless if it's a Republican
president or a Democratic, itdoesn't matter because
somebody's always pissed rightCorrect.
So how are you better and howare you political when both
sides are doing the same thing?

Speaker 2 (24:47):
yep, yeah, no, I, absolutely, and it's I.
I find it frustrating that,like that, your name would be
attached to and that that wouldbe my concern.
So if I was, if I had to bepart of something like that, and
I'm not saying I do or I don't,or I will or I won't.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
But let's say somebody gets an elective
termination, yeah, and theydon't tell their partner because
it's their body, it's theirchoice, yep.
And then their partner findsout, finds some paper laying
around and your name is on it.
Printed on the patient plan,they decide that it's not their
partner's fault.
You did this, yep, you did thisto their partner and to their

(25:29):
baby.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
And then they look you up.
I mean, yeah, they make adecision, like you know what you
killed my baby, I'm gonna killyours.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
And you just don't.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
You can't trust anybody I don't trust a single
soul anymore.
I, I, it's.
It's scary, it's so scary.
The when the brook, brooklynPark and Champlin murders
happened and attempted murdershappened like it was.
It's 15 minutes from where welive.
I was petrified Backyard yeah,petrified, like I almost backed

(25:54):
out of wanting to go to Caleb'sbirthday party because I was
like I'm afraid someone's goingto jump up on my back, my my
porch and like try to get in.
Like I, it's.
It was very terrifying for the36, 48 hours that it was until
they found them and you justnever know how people are going

(26:17):
to react to anything.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
This goes back to not knowing the kind.
You know, know we were talkingabout sociopaths and how like
the statistics are, one out of25 people are sociopaths and you
don't know, and you definitelywork with or go to school with
25 to 50 people and therefore atleast one to two of them are
sociopaths and they hide it andyou don't know, and there's you

(26:42):
could be married to somebody andyou have no idea what they
might've done in their life.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Okay, yeah, that's a really big I mean just given
saving noah that we just readlike it really makes you think
and I have a hard time trustingpeople on a day-to-day like.
But the people that I trust arelike my core people.
But there still could besomething that you don't know,
you and I could be completelyhiding these biggest secrets,

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and we've known each other foralmost 20 years.
Like we, there's.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
I don't have anything , I don't either.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I mean I don't either I, but yeah hypothetically it
could like you know it it.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Just something happened a long time ago where I
worked with.
I don't work there anymore, butI worked with somebody and she
was telling me that.
She started by saying, likewhat would you do if you found
out your partner did somethingreally bad?
Would you stay with them orwould you leave them?
And I'm like, well, it dependson what really bad was.

(27:39):
Well, it ended up that hersister-in-law was dating this
guy who she somehow found out,or it came up, or he told her
because he didn't want her tofind out.
I can't remember the context,but he was a registered sex
offender, but the situation waslike he was 19 and she was 16
and it was like a sad whatever,whatever.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Statutory rate.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Statutory yeah, that's sad, not Sagittarius, yes
, yeah, so I'm like.
Well, I feel like depends onthe context, right?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
I just, yeah, I.
The thing is is in a lot ofthese situations it's it's
dependent on the context, and Idon't think context is always
taken seriously and I think it'sjust the way our world is is
like they're like it has to beblack and white, and I'm like it
can't be, like I struggled forso long in my life because I was

(28:34):
like it needs to be black andwhite.
There is no gray area and I andI think in the world that I
work in now, I at first was likeit has to be one way and I'm
like no, it can't, because it'sdependent per patient, it's
dependent on per study.
You know all of these thingsand it really taught me that
like you have to live in thegray area.

(28:55):
There's so many variables andyou can't make a drastic
decision without knowing thefacts.
And I think there's three sidesto every story your side, their
side and the truth.
And there's got to be some wayto find all of that out and it's
yeah, nothing is ever linear inblack and white ever.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Okay, so now the big thing going on is like that
flooding that happened in.
Texas oh yeah, and so many kidsdied oh, it's awful.
So did you hear about thepediatrician that said it's
their fault because of how theyvoted?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Yes, I did, and I strongly disagree with number
one.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Their kids didn't vote and they're like well,
their parents did it doesn'tmatter.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
It doesn't matter.
Kids died, like I know, like.
Do I agree with how Texas ispolitically?
No, I don't.
But doesn't matter.
That does not affect my view onthe situation, because these
innocent people died, and somany little kids.
So many little kids and it isso heartbreaking Heartbreaking

(30:05):
it is kids and it is soheartbreaking heartbreaking it
is I there were.
I think there was a sibling, apair of siblings that were found
on a tree alive, and I was like, oh they were.

Speaker 1 (30:12):
Yeah, oh, my god like they were just kind of hovering
alive, but so many of them,like, were found holding hands
dead or somebody was holdingsomebody and couldn't hang on
anymore, like, and then yousurvived, like the trauma, like
to survive that, the trauma youexperienced and to die, and
those parents, I can't evenfathom.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
No, it's heartless.
No person should have to endurethings like that, no child
especially.
And there's no politics in atragedy like that.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well, they said there's cloud seeding.
Did you hear about that?
There's cloud seeding.
Did you hear about that?
What's cloud seeding?
Cloud seeding is where thegovernment, oh, seeds the clouds
yeah, so that there's a massiveflood and then it kills people.
Yeah, I've heard our governmentis that intelligent I've.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I've heard them say that and, like when the the
hurricane in North Carolina hitlast year, they were like well,
biden planted that hurricane.
And I'm like the hell he did.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Why are you giving these people that?

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Why don't give any Like what you cannot.
No, he did not plant ahurricane.
No one planted a hurricane andno one planted floods.
Biden doesn't even know whatday it is.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
He can't plant a hurricane and no one planted
floods.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Biden doesn't even know what day it is, he can't
plant a hurricane.
No, no, like, come on, just bereal.
That's the thing is.
I think the people are notrealistic anymore.
They have the idea of whatreality is and what reality
actually is like.
What they think it is and whatit really is are two different

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things.
I think we've gone way off thedeep end of yeah, taking things
into your own hands,understanding what people
actually are like and how theylive their day-to-day lives.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
That's light in the mood.
Okay, have you heard of a dripstick, heard of a urine stick,
okay, so my next question,before we talk about a drip
stick, is leggings with orwithout underwear?

Speaker 2 (32:15):
nine times out of ten with underwear, but if I'm lazy
without underwear, I disagree,disagree.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I say 10 out of 10,.
No underwear ever, because youget lines.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
And number two I wear underwear that does not give me
lines.
That's not true.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Seamless underwear have seams and leggings come
with a little underwear trianglein them.
So we were talking about this,yeah, and somebody was like I
have to wear underwear Becauseof she's like she says when are
my juices gonna go?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
That's my question.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
And I said Well, when you get a little bit older, you
won't have as much juices.
And and her biggest concern islike what if I just had sex and
he went inside of me?
And then there's that drippageand I said oh, you just put a
tampon in and she's like.
That's the most genius thingI've ever heard.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
I never thought about that until you told me that and
I was like what?
Yeah, because it soaks all theshit out and then an hour later
you pull it out, you're cleanthat's my biggest thing is like
I feel like you can smellsomething, even though I know
you can't, but I have such aparanoia if I'm not wearing
underwear that you can smell,you think, do you?
have odor shield underwear no,but like I always, you know, my

(33:37):
brain's like there's an extralayer of protection, okay, of of
shielding it, or something likethat.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I will tell you.
If you have an odor I know youwill I will tell you and I've
never, ever noticed that in mylife.
I'm here to tell you.
Emily's vagina has no foul odorand I also hope you would tell
me the same.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
If I did, I would, I had a boss years ago I'll tell
you offline who it was that hada um horrible odor all the time.
It was so gross, yeah, that Ithink I'm scarred from that.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
We call it the positive whiff test.
Oh, um, but I have I I have umheard some stories of some
doctors who have been out todinner or out to lunch and they
are like oh, that waitress hasBV, and they've jokingly been
like well, you should just writeher a prescription for her tip.
Oh, that is so sad, oh God.

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But if somebody smells downthere, tell them.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
Like if they underway , Tell them in the nicest way If
they're sticking out or youknow, yes, tell me.

Speaker 1 (34:48):
Just be a girl's.
Girl just tell me yeah, be agirl's.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I first thought that you said be a gross girl, girls,
girl be.
Yeah, be a bro.
Yeah, come on.
If my boobs sticking out, letme know.
Like tell me these things.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
The drip stick was invented for that.
Oh so, you don't, it's not,it's not like it, it's like a
tampon.
But it's not a tampon.
You don't put it in and leaveit in.
You insert it and then youtwist it around and it collects
all the debris, okay, and thenyou pull it out and throw it
away oh, I like that.
They say not for the bum.
Oh, there's like a warning onthe on the package that says has

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a picture of a butt with an Xon it and it says not for the
bum.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
I mean yeah, no, oh, I mean that's kind of a good
invention.
Like I don't think guys realizehow like after sex, how like
they have it easy they do, theyjust wipe and done and I'm like
this shit lasts for hours Like.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
However, I wouldn't want to lick a vagina that just
wipe and done and I'm like thisshit lasts for hours.
However, I wouldn't want tolick a vagina.
That's hard for them.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
That's the only hard thing they have to deal with.
Yeah, I give them props forthat, but yeah, for us it lasts
a long time.
I'm like come on.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, no, all right On my radar TV shows that I want
to watch, okay, so I don't know.
Tell me if you've heard ofthese or seen any of these.
Okay, we Were Liars is on Primeright now.
Have not seen it.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
It's a book.
Heard good things about it.
Have the book, have not read it, okay.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
I want to Okay the Summer I Turned Pretty.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I've heard of the book.
I've never read it.
I've never seen the show.
It's too rom-com-y for me.
Like that's not my genre ofbook.
It's supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
It's not supposed to be rom-com-y.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
See, and I've heard that it is.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
It's supposed to be like dealing with grief because
one of the moms is sick.
Oh of the moms is sick.
Oh, I don't know if I can watchthat yet.
Okay, you have to watch itfirst.
All right, I'll let you know.
Monster season three ed gein.
Did you watch any of themonsters?
Never heard of it.
It's on netflix, okay, uh,season one was jeffrey dahmer oh
season two, yes, yes, yes, Iwatched the jeffrey dahmer with

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that.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Was it the zach efron played it, or I?

Speaker 1 (37:02):
can't remember no no, no anyway, season one is
Jeffrey Dahmer.
Season two is the brothers thatkilled their parents.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Oh, the Mendez brothers, the Mendez brothers.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Yep, yep.
So season three is Ed Gein.
Oh, which is like thegruesomest dude ever yes.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
And I was thinking Zac Efron played Ted Bundy.
Oh, Ted Bundy.
Yeah, it was the movie.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
And then they're doing a season four.
Lizzie Borden, Do you know who?

Speaker 2 (37:29):
she is.

Speaker 1 (37:29):
I don't know who she is she's from Massachusetts, and
she killed her dad and stepmomwith an axe.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Oh, the Ted Bundy one , or not Ted Bundy one?

Speaker 1 (37:39):
Jeffrey Dahmer, one Chills, chills.
They did a really good job onthe guy who played him.
Absolutely insane, see, and Ithought dommer on netflix, like
that guy, was a yes, that onetoo.
That was a good dommer too.
What's on?
You have anything on your radarfor shows?
I'm still watching animalkingdom, still watching dexter.
Oh yeah, mackey's stillwatching prison break dexter

(38:00):
will be forever.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Um, downton abbey has been my big one.
I've been re-watching brooklyn99.
It's funny, such a funny show.
Um, and then it's baseballseason, so I have a lot of
baseball on.
And then, yeah, home run derbyis next week, so it's one of my
favorite sports days of the yearI know nothing about it, I know
I know, so give me a quick.

(38:23):
Oh the home.
So it's all-star break, so theydo a home run derby where it's
kind of a matchup of players whohave oh, it's like the all-star
basketball when they do likethe dunk contest and stuff like
that.
So they do the home run derbythe day before, okay, and so
there's.
You know, they pick a bunch ofpeople, pick a bunch of players
from this season who have donereally well and historically

(38:45):
have done really well with likehome runs and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
byron buxton from the twins is gonna be there, so
they put everyone on a teamwho's like good at hitting
homers yeah, they pick.

Speaker 2 (38:52):
I think it's like 16 players throughout all mlb, mlb
12 or 16, it's.
It's a bigger number and thenthey have a time, they're timed
to see how many home runs theycan get within that time period,
and then also, they're justhitting, hitting, hitting yeah.
So one person will hit and thenthe other person will go.
They'll go against it.
Whoever has the most in thatround goes to the next round,

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and so on and so forth untilthere's one winner.
Ok, I don't know, that soundsfun.
I can't.
That's televised.
Yeah yeah, I can't explainthat's televised.
Yeah yeah, I can't explain whyI love it so much, but it's
always been one of my favoritethings to watch.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I think it's fun because it's like all the great
stuff about baseball without allthe waiting around.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Right, I do have to say I do like the pitch clock
because it makes the games go bya lot faster.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
So glad they came up with that.
Yeah, anything else on yourradar?
No, um, no, not really okay.
I have two words that I didn'teither know what they meant,
okay, or I didn't know what theymeant, like I was using them in
the wrong context.
So I want to know if you'veever heard this if somebody is a

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show-off, what do you call them?

Speaker 2 (40:02):
a tammy topper oh, I never heard of that.
That's kind of like a one-upperokay so who's tammy?
Topper.
I mean, that's just a name.
I call them yeah, saying yeah,if you're a show-off, I kind of
think you're a tammy topper.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Where you're a one-upper, it's like you're a
negative nancy yeah okay, yeah,so did like your parents grow up
saying that or no, I don't youjust made it up on your own.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
No, no it's, someone else said it, and, like Tammy
and Tommy Toppers, like you know, if you're a one-upper of like,
hey, I went to Mexico.
Well, I went to Mexico andstayed in this private resort
and then I went here and didthis and, da-da-da-da, the
one-uppers To me, like they'reshowing off, they're bragging.

Speaker 1 (40:39):
Okay, no, okay, thank you okay, that's like what.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
What was the phrase your son said a couple years ago
and I was like what the hell isthis like?
It was a new phrase that he itwould.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
I'm sure he said it 500 bajillion times.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
He sure did I think it was when we were in beef
barley.

Speaker 1 (41:01):
I remember, oh my god no, the 7-eleven one.

Speaker 2 (41:04):
Oh my god, did that go?
Something about a super slurp.
Something a super slurp.
I want the big gulp, the biggulp.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Yeah, super slurp something, something.
Okay, if something is a doozy,what is it?

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Like a big of like whew, that was a doozy.
Like that was a rough, or youknow a rough moment.
Or like if I'm you know I don'twork out but like if I was
working out and I was like, whew, that was a doozy, it was a
hard workout, it was a littletough.
Or you know, at work, like, ooh, that was a doozy of a meeting,
that was kind of a struggle orsomething like that.
That's how I interpret it.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
So me too, I always I associate doozy with like a
negative thing like oh that wasbad or that didn't go well, yeah
, but it can be really great,good or really bad, really, yeah
.
So doozy can be like somethinglike extravagantly great and I
never knew that no, because Igoogled it.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I always use a different, like um, what is the
word for it?

Speaker 1 (42:05):
don't you hate that when you're trying?

Speaker 2 (42:06):
to think of it I'm having.
It starts with an.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
A so doozy, something outstanding or unique of its
kind, huh, which to me soundspositive.
Yeah, but then, like thesentence that they use is it's
going to be a doozy of a blackeye, which is negative, right?
Yeah, it's going to be reallybad black eye, yeah, but when I

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hear something outstanding, orunique, like that sounds great
adjective.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
I usually use a more positive sounding adjective like
my head doozy sounds negativelike yeah so it oh to take a
doozy.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
That so it's saying like I.
That's a negative thing for me,but it says doozy can be
described both good and bad, soanyway, I mean there I feel like
there are other words, like Ijust don't see it.
I just don't see it describedin any positive way.
Roller coaster can offer adoozy of a ride.
Yeah, that sounds like a badride.
I mean I have a doozy of adilemma like that sounds like a

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bad thing I don't understandwhere it's positive no, I don't
either yeah, no, I'm well.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
I had a doozy of a poop that could be positive.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
I mean, I always know it's a see a doozy.
Does that mean like not a lotcame out or a lot came out to?

Speaker 2 (43:19):
me.
I would think I would put it inlike oh, that was a lot okay,
see, I would say, a doozy waslike I that was going to be a
lot and then not much came out.
So I'm still backed up Spendingmore than like three minutes on
the on the toilet.

Speaker 1 (43:33):
I remember.
No, I don't, I'm, it's gotta be.
I have to be in labor pain togo to the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
I remember when we worked at Vault Take Care, the
colorectal doctor was like ifyou have to read a newspaper,
magazine or a book on the toilet.
You're on there too long.
Get off.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Yeah, I don't want to rectocele.
Yeah, that's true.
When I have to push, I'm likeno, I don't want to push my anus
right out the butthole.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
God, I don't want to do it, don't push.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
Let it come no.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
No, no, god, do you have anything else that you want
to talk about?

Speaker 2 (44:06):
The new state fair foods.
Oh yeah, I did, I did.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
I'm not impressed.
Never, I'm never impressed.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
Like staples.
Sometimes I'm a littleintrigued, like the tater tot
hot dog from Lulu's a couple ofyears ago, you know, like when
they started.
The cheese cart taco is likethat's kind of a cool idea.
All of these things, I'm likenothing.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
even the drinks, nothing I didn't look at the
drinks, yet nothing sounds.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
I was gonna say usually the drinks are more
intriguing than the food, but apickle drink, I think I saw
gross.
Yeah, I just kind of no I justI glanced over them because I
was like this is reallydisappointing.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
This is really disappointing this year and
nothing's on a stick really theyhave some weird things that
they say are like on a stick butit's it's not for real they're
using that in such a loose termnow, whereas, like 15 years ago,
everything was on a stick.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Oh, you remember a fudge puppy?

Speaker 1 (45:00):
yeah, I was gonna say why don't they bring that
motherfucker?
Oh, that was.
Why don't they?
I have an idea bring the fudgepuppy, bring the good shit back.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, I don't need like all this veggies and stuff.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
So here's the thing.
Yeah, I'm not like an ethnicfood person.
I don't want to spend $18 onsomething I don't know if I'm
going to like it.
Fair enough.
So Afro bean pops no, not doingdeep fried bites of ground
black eyed peas, onions,jalapeno and cilantro Not my
thing.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Here's the thing it sounds healthy.
We are at the Minnesota StateFair.
You don't eat healthy there.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
I know you can't see this, but that doesn't even look
good or healthy.
No, that looks like they looklike meat.
Looks like some chicken poopsin my backyard.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, Kind of looks like the taco meat from high
school.

Speaker 1 (45:47):
That looks like turds , oh God, and they'd scoop it
out with like an ice cream scoop.
Yeah, exactly that is exactlywhat that looks like.
Ok, whipped feta?
No, thank you that sounds.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
That kind of sounds good to me because I love feta
and I love Greek food.
So, like whipped feta with somepita chips, I would do that one
.
That one was one of the onlyones where I was like, okay, but
that's not something I wouldgravitate towards at the state
fair I would gravitate towardsit.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
At a restaurant, if you got this and said, hey, do
you want to try it?
I'd say no, thanks, yeah, andthat's fair enough.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
But again, it's not fair food.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
It is restaurant food .
O'gara's, a few years ago, cameout with deep fried avocados
and I really, really liked thoseand they didn't last.
So that's the thing is everyonce in a blue moon, something
great comes and it doesn't last.
Okay, birthday cake cookiedough on a stick.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
I don't like cookie dough Me either.
That's not my jam I don't likebirthday cake batter.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
I don't like cookie dough Nope, it looks cute, but
I'm not eating that.
I had Dippin' it, but I'm not.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
I have I'm not eating that.
I had dip and dots last nightat the twins game.
Oh I love those.
Tried banana split for thefirst time I don't like banana.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
I can't do fake.
It was not very banana, I onlydo chocolate mint?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
they didn't have chocolate mint, they had cookies
and cream.
Rainbow sherbert um brownie,chocolate brownie something, or
banana split.
No, then I wouldn't even get it.
Oh, the salmon.
I both were like that'sactually really good what's the
so?

Speaker 1 (47:08):
it's banana.
And what's the other flavor?
Strawberry and chocolate.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Oh so it's like, no, it's, it's like napoleon vanilla
so it's napoleon with plusbanana, and the banana is not
that strong.
I thought it would be a lotstronger okay, these actually.

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Well, it would be good, but I don't like gelato.
If it was ice cream I could dothis.
Is it the nacho things?
The cannoli gelato?

Speaker 2 (47:27):
nachos yeah, that wouldn't be bad.
I mean, I love a cannoli.
Go to Cassetta's and give me acannoli.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
But I don't like the shit that's in the cannoli.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Yeah, it's ricotta yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
No, it's like Mascarpone.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
It's like cream cheese-ish.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
Yeah, it's Marks Capone, if I remember right,
caprice curds.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
You know me, I don't like soft cheese.
I mean they're deep.
It's cheese curds with balsamicglaze on them.
It's not that exciting.
Just give me the regularmouth-trap cheese curds.
Why would you not get those?
Do I love balsamic glaze?
Yeah, but not on a fried cheese.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Put it on some fresh mozzarella.
This looks good, but I wouldn'tget it at the fair Cherry
Bigfoot limeade.
Bigfoot Bob might like it.
Yeah, all right.
Chicken fried bacon fries no,who likes chicken fried anything
that much?
No, chicken fried chicken andchicken fried steak no, no one
gets that.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
No, I mean, I know I have a friend who loves a good
chicken fried steak, nicole, oh,I'm like, does she oh?

Speaker 1 (48:32):
yeah, well, that's an ethnic thing, that is.
That is her jam sinna sugarcrust tidbits.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
I can make that at home for a quarter of the price
I could isn't it like just piedough yeah freshly baked.

Speaker 1 (48:47):
I could, you could buy the pot the like just pie
dough, yeah, freshly baked.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
You could buy the Pillsbury pie crust.
I literally have pre-made piedough in my fridge right now.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Cut it in strips and it's covered in cinnamon and
sugar.
Oh, whiskey flavored carameldipping sauce.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Oh, I can make that at home too.
I got whiskey.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
And whipped cream.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
And sugar.
Caramel sauce is literallysugar and water.
Bring to a boil until it getsto a certain color.
Sugar and water.
Bring to a boil until it getsto a certain color.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Sounds great, then I can put some whiskey in it
myself.
You can skip that.
I don't need that.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I will make it myself .
I just want the caramel.

Speaker 1 (49:13):
So if you got these and you said, hey, do you want
to try one?
Yeah, I would, but I wouldn'torder it.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
But I'm not paying $15 for something I can make for
you at home.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
What's a croffle cloud?
What is that?
Croissant pressed in a waffleiron and topped with fresh
whipped sweet cream, a drizzleof fruit puree and a cloud of
cotton candy.
I'm out.
I don't like cotton candy.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
I could also just buy croissants and put them in the
waffle maker at home.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
So they have banana caramel.
You might be into that flavor,now that you like the banana.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, but I could again make it at home Deep fried
tofuego bites.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
It's tofu, yeah, yeah .
So it's deep fried tofu that'sspicy I do appreciate vegetarian
options I do, yes, I do have afew vegetarians in my life.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Um, I do appreciate that.
Just it's not my jam dillpickle iced tea yes, hard, no,
hard no I love pickle flavoredthings, not to drink, to eat.
I like pickle juice.
Yeah, I like pickle juice as achaser when I do a tequila shot.

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Oh, I'll just drink it out of the jar before I throw
it away yeah, not like all inone setting but like I'll save
it so I can like take a swighere and there, all right.
What's a falafel?
It's a falafel which is amiddle eastern fritter of
chickpeas and herbs Yep, which Iam glad we do have a very
diverse state, so I am glad thatthey have a lot of offerings of

(50:35):
this, but it's just not for me,Not my jam, and I have a phobia
of trying new foods.
Yes, I already have in my mind,if I like it or not.
I already make up my mindbefore I ever.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
And if it has something that I'm afraid, like
an ingredient that I'm afraid totry I'm out I'm out anything
with broccoli in it.
I have the biggest fear oftrying broccoli.
I'm 37 years old and I've neverhad broccoli what I just had
some for lunch.
Today I have the biggest fearof it.
I childhood trauma okay.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Did your parents say like try to make it never?

Speaker 2 (51:03):
made it.
When we were growing up, itwasn't a vegetable that we, it
was always canned vegetables forus.
But I was I was raised in ahousehold of being forced to eat
things I did not like.
Yeah, yeah, like I tried it, Ididn't like it.
Like there was the tomato soupincident of like 1997.
I love tomato soup.
Nope, I mean, I hate tomatosoup.
I hate ketchup.
Ugh, oh, I smell of it.

(51:28):
I know it's very like thethings that you don't like and
the things that I don't like.
I love anything.
Cream cheese.
How do you not like ketchup?

Speaker 1 (51:34):
okay, I'm like how do you not like cream cheese?
I'm like, how do you not likeground beef?
Okay, the next thing is hang on.
I bumped my screen here.
The next thing is flotta,flotta.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
Oh, those are just like rolled tacos.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Seasoned shredded chicken stuffed in a rolled corn
tortilla.
Oh, it's like a um, like ataquito yeah, taquito yeah
flautas and taquitos.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
I think the difference is flautas are in
corn tortillas and taquitos areprobably in flour tortillas,
okay.
Is the only difference I canthink of.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Served in a cup of mild tomato salsa, sour cream
and crumbled koja cheese, whichis good.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Kotiha cheese.
Kotiha cheese, my sister'skotiha cheese.
Kelly's bringing some onSaturday for the taco bar.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
Oh kotiha cheese.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Yes, I always call it koticha so I'm glad that now I
know Remember the J sounds likean H.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Oh, like Jesus, and Jesus, yeah suits.
Okay freaky now.
I got excited when I saw thispicture on freaky friday because
I thought it was gonna be afudge puppy.
And it's fucking not.
Is it a banana?
It's grandma doreen's dessertdog ice cream, vanilla ice cream
sandwich between two pieces ofcoffee cake.

(52:43):
I'm out.
No, I'm out too much.
Keep your family recipe in yourfamily.
Bring back the fudge puppy.
Bring back the fudge puppy.
All right, green apple suckerice cream.
This looks okay.
I would.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
I would have that, but I would prefer the green
apple seltzer yeah, that's good,that's good I love licking that
caramel off that cup hot honey,jalapeno popper donut.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
No, thank you, I'm not.
I can't mix savory and sweets.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
That's not for me see I can, but I can't do.
I don't do spicy.
If you got jalapeno for sureI'm out.
And also cream cheese like thaton a donut with jalapenos and
bacon.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
No, no give me the chocolate frosting.
Remember when they first cameout with like maple bacon donuts
yeah, that was the big flavor.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
I never got into it, don't never.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
no, don't want anything to do with that.
So hot honey is all the rage.
Hot honey pizza balls which Iwould try one of these, but I
wouldn't buy it.

Speaker 2 (53:35):
That's it, green Mill .

Speaker 1 (53:36):
Yeah, pizza.
Dough balls stuffed with cheese, curds, pepperoni, parmesan
cheese brushed with garlicbutter, topped with more
pepperoni, drizzled with.
Kind of sounds like OldChicago's pepperoni rolls
obviously I was going to say itis old Chicago but it's Green
Mill.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Oh, I miss old Chicago.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
All right, hula Kahula pork.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
I mean, I love pork, but I don't go there for fancy
meats.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
This is barbecue, and sometimes this Arcee's Barbecue
has good, it's a good placethey had that peach drink last,
that peach beer.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
That was really good.

Speaker 1 (54:04):
Yeah, it was a cocktail was oh yeah, it was a
cocktail, all right this looksgood.
This looks like fun, but Iwouldn't get it.
Land of 10 000 cakes.
I love how clever it is, yeahabsolutely so I love that.
It's like a bunch of differentcakes layered up in a cup and um
cupcakes and whipped cream andit looks super cool, but it's
not my thing no, I would ratherhave a mini apple pie.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Oh, with With cinnamon ice cream, we're having
blueberry.
This time we're havingblueberry.

Speaker 1 (54:29):
We might have to get one of each Okay that's fine.
I had mini apple pie when I wasthere, for Back to the 50s too.
It was good.
Oh, so good, All right, thisone Patisserie sweets in two
varieties.
So two pastries, an apple glazecrisp, one.
I'm just not.
That's not what I'm getting atthe fair I'm not getting a
pastry.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
None of this stuff is fair food to me pimento cheese
puffs.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
I don't like pimento cheese.
I don't either.
It's not my, not my thing.
Blend of cheddar cheese, mayoand pimento peppers gross, I'm
out this one.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
I was like that pizza cheese, curds, taco, yeah this
is at the cheese curd taco place.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
So these, I would try one of these or a bite of one
of these, but the?
you know I only had the cheesecurd tacos once and they were so
salty yeah, and I've never hadthem because I've always been
turned off because you told methey were so salty and I like a
lot of salt yeah, so do I, andI'm like you and I love salt, so
that kind of scares me, thisone okay, so pot of gold potato
dumplings, which is cheesygarlic mashed potatoes folded

(55:30):
into flake, flakely flakydumplings, so that looks good.
I would try that, served withtop the tater.

Speaker 2 (55:37):
I love potatoes and top the tater yeah, so did you
did.
You see, over fourth of julyweekend down in um farmington
where top the taters made, theydid a contest of scooping up the
chip.
Who could scoop up the most?

Speaker 1 (55:50):
Top the Tater on a chip.
I know they have like Top theTater days yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
It was.
Yeah, you'll have to look up avideo because they were picking
out a ruffled chip, becausethat's the only plain ruffles
are what goes with Top the Tater.
And they picked out what onethey thought would hold the most
, and so it was like a wholescoop of top of the tater on a
chip.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
That's not jam.
I was like that is the most.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Minnesota contest ever.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
All right.
Well, I know you've beenwaiting for something on a stick
, so here is the shrimp and porktoast on a stick.
Nope, looks terrible.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I mean, people say shrimp toast is good, but it's
shrimp?

Speaker 1 (56:21):
I've never even heard .

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I mean, this isn't another Eknett food, so I don't
know about it but it's a mixtureof ground pork and shrimp.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
No, yeah, it's like lemongrass, ginger, garlic,
shallots, thai chilies fishsauce.
I like my fake american chinesefood smash shadilla out yeah,
oh, that's ground beef, so it'slike a, it's like a hamburger
taco yeah, fried onto a tortillabasically somali street fries.
I don't know what beef sucar is, but I don't like the way it

(56:52):
looks yeah, I think it's justhow the beef is.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
It's probably a way that the beef is cooked it looks
like lamb the way in thispicture so it might be spiced
beef, vegetables, cheese andherbs on a bed of french fries.
I'll pass I'll take just frenchfries, all right what are these
sweet squeakers?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
the blue barn.
So the blue barn's a promisingplace, yeah, but read it.
Oh no, I'm out.
White cheddar cheese curdscoated in funnel cake batter,
deep fried and topped with ascoop of fresh lemon whipped
cream.
Yeah, I can't do.
The sweet and the savory.
That's what that is toodifferent for me.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
That is like too different for me all right this.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
This is ethnic food as well.
Tandoori chicken.
What's tandoori?
Tandoori chicken is no, whatethnicity is that?
Middle Eastern, yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Yeah, so spiced chicken layered with cheese,
sauteed onions, bell peppers,jalapeno, I mean I could eat
that.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
It's like a quesadilla.
It looks good.
I mean, I love chicken shawarma.
I wouldn't buy it, but I couldtry that, and I think tandoori
chicken has similar styles ofhow it's cooked and stuff.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Maybe, so these did nothing for me.
The timber twist at Giggles andGiggles is like a hot spot for
me.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
That's not even seafood, is it?
Giggles Campfire Grill?
No, normally that's where mostof their stuff is seafood.
Oh, it's not seafood, but likefish, like campfire fish, the
timber twist.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Yeah, so this is Italian sausage, mozzarella,
cream cheese and barbecue rub onthree manicotti shells wrapped
in bacon, and I thought theywere ribs when I first saw them.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
That's what it looks like from here.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
But I'm out this.
So they have another variationof.
So they have these mini donutsin a bucket and they're like
drizzled with a bunch.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
They have other options I like the tom, thumb og
ones I know, but these ones,they have some other.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
This one is just so much chocolate.
The triple chocolate, yeah,because it's chocolate.
Mini donuts, powdered sugar,chocolate icing, chocolate
sprinkles and chocolate chips.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
That's a lot of chocolate, I I love chocolate,
but that's a lot of chocolate,that's too much chocolate.
Throw some peanut butter inthere.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
But I saw some other ones that are like regular mini
donuts with chocolate drizzleand whipped cream and sprinkles.
I could do that when I was inAustin.
They had like this really greatmini donut place and it was
like you could pick the flavorof the mini donuts and you could
pick if you wanted whippedcream mini donuts and you could
pick if you wanted whipped cream.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
you could pick the type of side of chocolate sauce,
caramel sauce all the thingsbest mini donuts ever.
By the way, they changed thepackaging on the mini donuts at
the twins games.
They are now in like little um.
They look like chinese to gocontainers, and so when I was
walking past yesterday I waslike patrick would have been so
upset that they changed thecontainers because now his cats
wouldn't be able to get into themini donuts.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Oh, that's right, cats love the mini donuts.
Okay, well, we're at an hour sowe're not going to tell you
about all the other State Fairfoods, but just know that none
of them look that great.
No, so we'll be getting ourstaples and we will let you know
when that happens.
So thank you for listening toanother episode of On Our Best
Behavior.
Emily and I are ready to go tobed.
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