1 Year Without a Single Drink – Tyler Gets Real

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Tyler marks a significant milestone on this episode of On Tap - 365 days without alcohol. What began as a personal challenge has transformed into a journey of clarity, revealing how sobriety reshapes not just nights out but entire perspectives on life.

0:00 Tyler's Sobriety Milestone

6:56 Life Changes and New Priorities

16:33 Looking Back at the Podcast Evolution

26:14 Childhood Internet Discoveries

34:34 College Days and Social Pressures

42:23 Addictions and Their Impact

53:15 Finding Connection and Vulnerability

58:34 Final Thoughts on Mental Health

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, sam, bring us in.
All right, welcome back to anepisode of On Tap.
We have Cody Hughes in thehouse.
He's going to take us in on ourintro.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Cody.
Thank you for having me on theshow, sam, I really appreciate
it.
No problem.
Today we're joined by our goodfriend Tyler, founding father of
the podcast newly sober man.
We wanted to bring you on totalk about your new journey.
What have you been up to sinceyou have not been here?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
My mentor, the cool part about sobriety is that it's
extremely boring, so I've beenup to nothing.
No friends anymore, yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
so you're celebrating a big milestone right now 365
days of no alcohol yeah, prettypumped on it.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
How do you feel about that?
How do you think yourrelationship with the bar scene
has changed since you've quitoff the?

Speaker 3 (00:51):
pit, as some would say.
Pretty damn rare.
I guess I step into a baranymore.
If I'm going, it's for a fishfry or a rockin' appetizer.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Or maybe a meat raffle and karaoke.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Dude, I'll still hit up the Legion as much as
possible for karaoke.
Yeah, we've been doing at leastone or two karaoke since you've
been off of the drink, oh yeah,do you think that you have a
different experience, like adifferent time, in there now?
Do you want to drink whileyou're in there?

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, no, I don't think I want to drink in there,
but I think it's more of justtrying to enjoy yourself in
other ways, like I was fuckingaround with friends and stuff,
and yeah, I don't want to stayout nearly as late.
I kind of feel bad.
I feel bad sometimes becauseI'm like, hey guys, it's, it's
11 o'clock, let's shut her down,you know.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, no, I get that Well the are.
Honestly, because the lastkaraoke night that we were at
together, I remember thinkingthe same thing.
I'm looking at my watch.
I'm like damn, it's 10 o'clock,I'm tired.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, but you don't drink heavy anyways.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
No, I really don't, honestly.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Well, dude, especially being a dad, you
don't get days off.
They're still going to get upin the morning and need your
attention.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
That's exactly what I'm thinking in the moment too.
When I was younger, I was soquick and so it was so much
easier to sacrifice like beinglike, screw it, I'll stay up
till three, four in the morningand then go to work at 6.
Am.
I don't care, I'll be tiredtomorrow.
It'll be fine in two days.
Now, first off I like, but nowyou know, I know that the kids

(02:27):
are going to wake up somewherebetween 5 and 6 30.
Regardless if I want to or not,I have to get off.
You know they're not old enoughto just like do their own thing
.
So it's like I'm getting upsomewhere between 5 and 6 30, no
matter what oh yeah, I'm tired,and then you add hungover onto
that too.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's a terrible combination yeah, that fatigue
sets into probably about 2 pmonce you've you've trudged
through the day, but then yougotta hit the line like, hey,
maybe we should take an extralong nap today, boys oh yeah, I
get a pot of coffee in me, maybea couple energy drinks, and I
feel good for about an hour, andthen it's just once everything
crashes.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Then it's like damn, I'm really tired right now age,
you start understanding the costof your actions.
Oh yeah, even early in thenight you're like I'm going to
feel this in the morning.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
This is not going to be worth it 100%.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
So now in the year that you've been off the drank,
you've gone mostly Californiasober for most of it, half Half
of it, but now you're fullyclean and clear.
The only vice you have is whatCaffeine and nicotine.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
A lot of caffeine and nicotine is the problem.
Yeah, yeah, that's probablystill.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Yeah, it's tough to be off of the caffeine and the
nicotine, though I will say thatAt least I'm off the vapes.
Yeah, that is a good point.
That is not a good deal.
Do you notice not being on thevape?
I've never been a big vape guybecause my lungs bog me down
like crazy.
Do you notice that you canbreathe better?

Speaker 3 (03:54):
No, not really, because I am also more unhealthy
right now because I gained abunch of weight with a new
girlfriend that cooks like crazy.
Yeah, I can't quit eatingbecause she's so goddamn good at
cooking.
Yeah, so yeah, I'm stillunhealthy don't get it wrong.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Don't get me wrong.
You gotta just pick and choose.
You know you can't have it all.
Yeah, exactly unhealthy in afew different ways.
It's like the pie chart yeah,yeah, pick two of them you know
raging alcoholic and yeah,whatever, yeah maybe have a
dinner that's not have thatextra chicken Alfredo, or go
drink 15 beers tonight.
Yeah, it's a good trade-off.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
I heard that you think you're clear, Like you
think you think clear, yes, 100%, I think.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
memory well, memory's still shit, but also we're
getting old but there's a lot ofshit floating around up there.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
No, so we're getting old, but uh, there's a lot of, a
lot of shit floating around upthere, but no, I think, I think
a lot clearer, a lot, uh, easierthinking and stuff.
Let's, let's bring it back, Imean, to the episode one.
We the first 10 episodes of thepodcast, we didn't even have
video first episode of uh season.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Two bees trigger pocket bees trigger.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
yeah, so that would have been episode number 11, the
first one ever recorded onvideo.
Yeah, how do you think you'vechanged from episode 11 to now
episode?
I don't even know what numberthis is, because I don't number
them anymore, but let's say 260.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Well, it's pretty funny because when we first
started this podcast, my parents, at least, and probably your
parents or whatever were likeyou know, be careful what
happens, because this is goingto be out there forever.
And I always told myself, ifanything, my kids can watch this
and be like this is all mystories and everything.
And now that I'm older and Iwatch them back, now that I'm a

(05:36):
changed man and I'm sober now,I'm like fuck, I was kind of a
piece of shit.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
It's not like I did anything like extremely bad.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
You know I didn't go to jail the whole time that we
did the podcast, so that's goodthat's an accomplishment,
anything like that, no cases ornothing so I remember recording
the first, like, let's say, 100episodes, and being like I don't
care what I say.
I will say and do anything,obviously within what I'm okay
with, but I will never be in aposition where it will affect my

(06:11):
career.
And now, like now, I'm workinga corporate job and I'm like,
damn, everything is prettyincriminating.
But I will say this I do, Ifeel like I have enough, I have
enough pride where I'll be, likeI'm standing on business, like
that's not me now, but I don'twant to, I don't want to go
erase that, because those areall really good memories.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
It is like timeframe.
You just sent one, sent anepisode to us yesterday, but
every time that I listen back tohim it's like a little time
capsule to me.
You know we talked about thison the five-year anniversary
episode too where it just kindof puts you back exactly in that
era, the first episode with Sam.
It's like a flood of memoriesof exactly what happened that

(06:52):
night, which I feel like a lotof people don't have that to go
back on, which is cool,especially when you drink so
much you don't remember thewhole night.
But it kind of floods back whenyou can see a visual
representation and then alsohear yourself tell stories that
you kind of forgot yourself.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
Yeah, dude especially in the episodes where we're
like talking it's not the bigstory, a funny story that you
tell throughout your life, justsomething random that happened
over the week.
That was funny.
That kind of left.
Those are the moments where I'mlike, oh my God, I forgot that
happened.
Kind of left, those are themoments where I'm like, oh my
god, I forgot that happened,because the other day I I put it
to oldest first and scrolledthrough every thumbnail and read

(07:29):
a bunch of comments and like,exactly like you said, it was
like oh we got really fucked up.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
This one, that's pretty much what all the
memories are yeah well, just thewhole structure of the podcast
and stuff, and how much you guyshave changed, uh, with the
podcast and everything, how wehad a swear jar at the beginning
oh my god, because that wasbrutal.
Your grandparents didn't wantus to swear as much, so then I
just kind of took it upon myself.
That was my character to.

(07:54):
I was gonna swear a lot, and Iwas gonna drink the swear jar.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
I didn't, I didn't care that was kind of what it
came down to.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
It's like us just knowing you're gonna be the one
to drink this concoction ofeveryone's drinks all put
together, all the way up tochugging a can of SpaghettiOs
mixed with a can of Natter DaysAll the way up to that for $200.
No $100.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
He made you give $100 of it back, right, fucking
crazy.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Thank God you're out of the state.

Speaker 2 (08:21):
The only episode Caleb was ever on Bad day Too
many, if you ask me.
Yeah, I would think.
Like me looking back, it's likeit's funny now, like I said,
I'm in a corporate position nowand it's funny seeing some of
these different versions of mecolliding now that you know I
have some people that I workwith phone numbers.
So, um, just at a meeting, likea couple of weeks ago, someone

(08:45):
comes up to me and they're likeis your name on Snapchat, booger
snatcher?
And I was like okay, hold on.
First off, I made this accountwhen I was 12 years old.
I can't change it now, you know.
So it's funny Cause I rememberspecifically when I was making
that username.
I'm like I don't care, I'llnever, never, I'll never work a
corporate job anyways, you knowwhatever.

(09:06):
And I'm like damn, thosebenefits seem pretty enticing.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's so funny.
Uh well, I've seen the snapchat.
There was a lady that postedyour photos, for you shot her
wedding and it was theseextravagant wedding photos and
they're so sentimental.
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Cody did an amazing job at booger snatcher I had so
many people swipe up on my storybecause I shared it.
You know she tagged me and so Ishared it and, uh, some people
swipe up.
It's like this was super niceuntil I seen your username in
the caption and then it was like, wow, this is really funny.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Vibe change instantly .

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I know, and I go back and forth on, I do I.
I am thinking in my head likeshould I change my username or
do I?
Do I keep rolling with boogersnatcher?

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I'm tyler yolo ploschek, so that's pretty lame.
Now that we're 30, almostthat's a really good point.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
I feel like you guys because you guys are four years
older than me and you were atthe forefront of Snapchat I feel
like you guys kind of went forEveryone has a name like an AOL
username, where it's something alittle off.
It's definitely not your realname.
And then, when a lot of kidsmigrate, they just went for the
first name underscore last name.
I thank myself.

(10:20):
Now.
Every social media.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
I was smart, I planned it out for the future, I
was thinking ahead one thingI'm extremely grateful for was
the uh, the school made us makeour own emails and I still use
it and I'm so grateful.
My email is this tyler ploschekat gmail, because what was your
first email, sir?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
oh, um, cody big sexy at gmail.
I remember the first time I waslike, yeah, I need to make a
new email.
I was signing up for somethingI don't remember where I was
Maybe like a rewards program ata retail store or something and
I did the thing where I justspell it out and thinking
they're not going to actuallyread it, and the lady looks up

(11:03):
from the computer like Big Sexy,is it CodyBigSexy?
At gmailcom?
Like what?
So this was actually.
I got this nickname at LakeOwen, the skateboard camp that
we went to, and I still have theskateboard on it.
Someone wrote Big Sexy ingraffiti on my grip tape.
I still have it in my garage.
But I was like, oh yeah, thisis my name.
I was like this is the peoplechose this I have to run with.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Were they just like bullying you or something?

Speaker 2 (11:27):
no, it was dead serious.
I was just a big sexy guy.
He's never been big, it's gottabe an ironic name, dude.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
It's not like they saw you and was like oh my god
that guy's big and sexy yeah,okay.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
So what part of that would be funny to you?
Because I am big and I am sexy,so like big, like you were
fucking jacked at that time.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Yeah, massive.
You might be fit and handsome,but you're not big and sexy
buddy yeah, well, now yeah dude,bringing it back to childhood.

Speaker 1 (11:57):
I was thinking about like, and I could only be
speaking for myself.
I'm not gonna speak for everyteenage boy, but like you know
how, like you're just extremelyhorny at a young age you know,
no, like really, you know, it'sjust like almost life-ruining,
like to the point where I wouldmiss school just so I could jack
off, and I was thinking I can'ttell you that I relate to be

(12:19):
honest with you, dude when I wasit I was probably 14 or 15 is
when I discovered that kimkardash Kardashian had a sex
deal.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Oh yeah, I had no idea.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
I didn't know you could fucking find it.
I thought I remember likehearing something like there was
one out there that's how shegot famous, but I didn't know I
could fucking go to Pornhub andfind it.
The day I discovered it, dudefamily iPad.
I fucking pulled that bad bitchup.
I'm like what the?
fuck, but that bad bitch up.
I'm like what the fuck?
But my whole family was home,so I couldn't do it in the house

(12:48):
.
I literally went out into thewoods and sat under a tree, and
that was the first time Iwatched kim k's sex tape do you
ever think we overshare on thepodcast?

Speaker 3 (12:57):
no, hey, I'm with you , I remember.
I remember the first time Ifound out about it I was I see
she was on the view or something.
I was at tucker's house and shewas on the View and Tucker's
older sister was like, yeah, shehas a sex tape.
Yeah, as soon as I had accessto the internet I was like, okay
, well, we got to find this.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, what else is out there?
Yeah, dude, I used to have afucking track phone, flip phone,
and my buddy would send mepictures of his dad's playboys
and I would just look at him onthat little screen.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
Well, that's the evolution that that's scary, for
kids now have so much access tothe whole world that, like our
parents was, you know, you rip asheet out of a playboy and it's
in their tree house, in thewoods and the whole, the whole
town or whatever, depending onwhere they lived.
They all shared this oneplayboy, magazine or whatever
and like.
For me, the first thing I hadwas a wii and they had the

(13:48):
internet, but you couldn't watchvideos, so it was pictures and
you just watch.
It load from the top down ofthe picture and just one picture
at a time.
Oh, dude, I'll never forget I.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
So I have a weird childhood where, like I grew up
as more of like a 90s kid than a2000s kid because we had dial
up until 2012 and so I was adial-up kid growing up and I'll
never fucking forget the daythat my mom called me down to
the computer room and the searchhistory was pulled up.
I didn't even know search.
I was so naive at the time Ididn't know there was a search

(14:20):
history and it's fucking hot.
Naked girls.
Naked girls, boobs.
And she's like what's this?
I have no idea, it was a searchhistory and it's fucking hot.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Naked girls naked girls boobs.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
And she's like what's this?
I have no idea.
I it was a virus, you know,that's all I knew is pull the
virus card.
And I did put a fucking viruson her computer and I think she
just ended up believing iteventually Cause she I've ruined
a laptop, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Mine, that was spicy big butt.
Yeah, my, my dad did it in sucha nonchalant way to tell him
it's uh, teach me their researchhistory.
He's like, yeah, let me showyou this.
Like I was looking for atrailer for the farm and stuff
and it's like you know, I waslooking yesterday and it's like
so cool that you know I can'tremember exactly where I've seen

(15:03):
this trailer, but I can gothrough here and it'll show me
exactly the website I was onyesterday.
I can click like isn't thatsweet?
And I'm sitting there as good.
Oh, that's so cool but what agreat way for him to handle it.
You know, you knew he was beingpassive aggressive.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
I still have never talked to him about that I
should almost bring that up tohim see that's the difference
between your dad and my dad ishe would pounce at any
opportunity to embarrass me.
Like not for other people, Forhimself.
If he could fucking embarrassme, he would take it every time.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Hey, come down here.
What's this yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Oh, dude, that's like yeah, I fucking.
That was a rough fucking day.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
I don't think that I ever got caught with any
suspicious browser activity, butI will say I gave multiple of
our computers thetechnologically equivalent to
cancer, from downloading randomsongs on limewire and completely
ruining the computer to thepoint where it wouldn't even
start or you couldn't click onanything because it would take

(16:07):
forever to load.
I mean the computer trashedcompletely.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
I remember my mom standing.
Is it Geek Squad that's in BestBuy?
Yeah, Geek Squad.
I remember us going theremultiple times for her to try to
get her computer fixed andknowing I was the culprit.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
How about your story of when your stepdad fixed your
computer?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, Okay, how about your story of when your stepdad
fixed your computer?
Yeah, okay, I did forget aboutthat.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Dude If it's embarrassing.
I got a very embarrassing oneto follow up.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
I don't remember specifically what it was, but I
do remember it was a very not.
It was very, very similar toyour dad's story where he just
kind of nonchalantly was like sothere's certain websites that
you go on that will ruin thesecomputers with viruses, you know
.
But because I rememberspecifically that laptop, it was
one of those ones.
Like you click on any websiteand all of a sudden, like boom,

(16:53):
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,all these pop-ups yeah, yeah and
I was like what the heck isgoing on.
and my stepdad was really goodwith computer so I had him like,
hey, can you reset this for me?
And then, yeah, there's thislike a very, and I knew right
away what he was talking about.
I'm like I gotta be morecareful, I gotta use someone
else's laptop.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, dude it's going to what you were saying about
how kids have access to all thisshit.
My first time getting a debitcard in my life, dude.
Time getting a debit card in mylife, dude.
I've signed up for like some,some type of premium, something
on a sketchy website.
16 first debit card, first job.
And uh it, they fraud my card,they're.

(17:34):
They called me out, canceled mycard.
So I'm like, oh fuck, I go intothe bank and she's like, yeah,
uh, it looks like there's somesuspicious activity.
Do you have any idea what thewebsite was?
And I was like, no, I don'tthink it was me, there's no
chance.
And she's like, oh here, I'lljust look it up quick.
Dude pulls it up on hercomputer in the bank.

(17:56):
It was like a live cam site dude, it wasn't even like normal
shit.
She's like oh yep, thisdefinitely wasn't you.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
I'm like, oh my gosh, that's disgusting.
I don't even like that I meantalk about.
I mean the way the internet haschanged now, especially since
the dynamic of like only fans.
Think of how many kids nowgrowing up are potentially
finding their parents in thesesites online.
No, it's going to happen well,it already is happening, no

(18:28):
doubt.
I mean it's it's naive to thinkthat people haven't found this.
But the craziest part to me is,like kids don't have any chill,
you know.
So like no me knowing what Iknow now, when we were kids, if
any of our moms or dads were onOnlyFans or any sites like that,
we would have found it and thatwould have been every single

(18:49):
one of our wallpapers that wouldhave been printed out.
We would have given them a lotof shit for that.
It's obviously not right, butyou don't think of that as a kid
.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
It's super low-hanging fruit and it's
really easy to make fun of youdon't think of a long-term
trauma that comes along withthat no because, like I think of
, like even buddies that hadsisters that would send nudes to
somebody and people look atthis oh my god, that's your
sister.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Oh, I, actually there was one one instance, one of
our buddies it was, uh, maybe itwas someone in college, but it
was like we'd zoom in on likebutt.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Actually, it wasn't even a nude.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
maybe it was just like a Facebook photo or
something.
We'd zoom in on their butt andbe like what do you think of
this?
And they're like, oh yeah,she's hot and we'd zoom in and
it's like it's your sister.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
You shit, fuck Dude.
That's evil shit man.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
And that is relatively innocent, to what you
could probably do do to yourfriends.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
I remember our one buddy when we were kids and he
he was oh, check out this nude.
And he zooms in.
She has really pretty eyes,like he'll pass the whole body
into her eyes that was a goodone, diabolical now also.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
I mean the dynamic of that changing like you can get
hit with child, childpornography by, you know, just
having it on your phone even asa child like you know, if you're
both in high school, whateverthe case.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
So it's like it's very serious now I think you
know when you're young you'relike that's fucking bullshit.
But you realize they went tothe extreme just to hopefully
eliminate it entirely you knowlike yeah it probably isn't
right that a 15 year old shouldget charged with cp when they
got him from another 15 year old, but how else are we gonna stop

(20:27):
?
the yeah the epidemic of nudesdude, like it's a real fucking
problem and when you're youngyou think it's so cool, and then
the trauma that it leads tolater and just like I saw dude
guys like you said no chill, youget.
You're 14, you get a nude,you're showing every friend.
It's just how it went,especially in these days.
And I saw girls just get fuckedup by it.

(20:49):
Man, like I see why they go tothe extreme.
Like it should end.
It's fucked up.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, and it doesn't always just happen to girls too.
I mean, there's plenty of guys.
There was one guy that wegraduated with that sent an
unsolicited picture of himselfto another girl and she showed
everybody, and I actually.
I think he dropped out ofschool like it.
I would assume it ruined hiswhole entire life.
I never heard one good thingabout him after the fact, but uh
, it goes both ways.
No doubt it's just definitelymore common for girls, and

(21:14):
especially with uh, age now anddifferent perspective on life.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
It's, it's pretty wild how you think about things
differently oh yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Well, I mean, we talk about from the first episode of
this to now.
It's like just in five years,and I'm sure it's just because
we've gotten older.
But, like my perspective on youknow even the topics that we
select, yeah, it's completelydifferent.
Yeah, it's like who is who?

Speaker 3 (21:38):
is really going to be listening.
Well, like even these topics, Ifeel like we're talking right
now is a little off-brand, forhow tab is nowadays?
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, we go to have an Iron Worker flute-playing guy
on to talk about Sam's firsttime that he got off, but we're
only 20 minutes in, not thefirst time, the first time to
Kim K yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
There's been many more.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
You always remember your first time.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Oh God, yes, dude.
I remember chasing the dragondude.
I remember one of the firsttimes I ever watched porn.
It was just a banger video.
And then I tried to find thatvideo for years.
I could remember littlesnippets and I'd search just
broad.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Vague statements.
Try to find it and I'd fuckingnever find it, dude.
Now with AI, you could probablyspot that thing right away.
That's a good point, dude.
You should try typing it intoChatGPTO.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
See that's the problem.
Though this was now over adecade ago, I don't remember all
these keywords.
I don't even remember if it wasa mil for stepsister or stepmom
.
I don't know where to go withit.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
You're lost in the scene.
I'll find the dragon one day.
It might not even be on thereanymore.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Dude, it probably was one of the gutter videos that
they got rid of.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, oh, actually wasn't that a thing with
legislation, with the hub thatthey took down all of the
previous content that they hadbefore it was verified?

Speaker 3 (23:00):
There was millions of videos that were like rape
videos and sex trafficking andlike and they didn't know, how
to distinguish.
A lot of it was revenge porntoo yeah, they had to just wipe
everything out and now there'slike heavy verifications and
stuff.
It's not good.
I just listened to a podcast onthis.
Don't act like I'm a massivelyuh in tune with the porn
industry, but I do enjoy theovanand he had an amazing podcast

(23:22):
on it with a lady against it.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Oh yeah, I did see that too.
Yeah, yeah, she's the one kindof leading the charge against
getting these websites takendown.

Speaker 3 (23:30):
Well, it's bad yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Well, since we're getting into it, do you guys
remember the Fappening?
Oh yeah, that was a big day inmy life.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Jennifer Lawrence was released in that one right.
Kate Hudson.

Speaker 1 (23:43):
For people that don't know, the fappening and I'm
sure there's a lot of youngviewers that are not aware in I
want to say 2013-14, seems aboutright.
Hundreds, without exaggeration,of celebrities had their nudes
leaked to the internet.
And it was all on one website.
You basically look up anycelebrity crush you had and

(24:03):
there was new nudes of them outthere and it was like I'd skip
school the next day at least now, with today.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
Uh, celebrities and stuff can just deny stuff
because with with ai, you canmake a photo of anybody.
Oh yeah, yeah.
So yeah, that's crazy I'veliterally.
You know that's too muchactually yeah, you gotta draw
the line I'm going to keep thatone to myself.
I'm reeling back on that oneboys.

(24:33):
All right, let's switch.
Yeah, ai is crazy.
Hard topic change Dire wolvesDude no, fuck dire wolves.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I want to talk about the lady boys, not my turn I
want to talk about the lady boysin Thailand that have to draw
for the military.
Have you seen anything aboutthis dude fucking nuts?
I've been on this rabbit holebecause I it's been a thing for
a long time, but it's just goingviral.
Where so in thailand, once yougraduate high school, if you

(24:59):
volunteer for the military, youhave to do one year and you're
done.
If you go and get yourbachelor's degree, you have to
volunteer for six months andyou're done.
But if you don't do either, youhave literally a bucket like an
ice cream pail.
Some of them, I saw, was like ajar, like Hunger Games.
You walk up in front of a wholegymnasium of people.
There's red and black cards inthis jar that this guy's holding

(25:22):
and two security guards holdyou so you can't run away.
And you pull it and they readread it out loud either red or
black.
And if it's red, you got to goserve two years.
If it's black, you're free fromserving.
And so most of the people thatdon't volunteer are people that
probably wouldn't it's.
It's like the nerds, the ladyboys and so like dude, they're

(25:42):
just sweating this and if theyget red, they fucking grab them
by arms, pull them into adifferent room and they're
serving now, that's literallyhunger games.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
What do you think?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I mean just the fact that people obviously are
potentially fighting their wayout of going into the service.
What do you think the servicelooks like in thailand?

Speaker 1 (26:00):
so I I did a little research on it and I think it's
it's really fucking bad, and Iguess thailand and china are
really kind of always about togo at it, and so a lot of people
are scared because when ithappens, a lot of Thai people
are not going to make it.
It's going to be a big deal andyeah, I don't know, man, I'd be

(26:22):
fucking scared.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
You're never going to have a good army if your army
is not passionate for your cause, like if they're forced to be
in there.
A hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
You're never going to have a good army if your army
is not passionate for your cause, like if they're forced to be
in there A hundred percent.
The thing is, I think, from astrategy perspective, I think
what Thailand needs to do isthey need to introduce monster
energy and, you know, maybegrizzly wintergreen into their
economy.
And then, all of a sudden, sometrend, some trend.
All of a sudden you have aphenomenal military, because I

(26:49):
think that's where the UnitedStates really benefits.

Speaker 1 (26:51):
Cigarettes.
They probably got plenty ofcigarettes.

Speaker 3 (26:53):
Well, maybe meth pills that worked good for the
Nazis.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Very true, very true, dude yes, that shit's crazy man
, the fucking meth pills.
And at the time it was like no,this isn't bad for you.
Like, this gets you all fuckingamped up.
You just won't sleep for fourdays.
It's not a big deal, dude.
It's crazy hearing guys fromthat grew up in the 70s and

(27:17):
early 80s talk about methbecause it started as like a fun
party drug like people wouldjust seriously dude.
I swear to god, they would justdo meth casually, like my
generation.
It was like adderall people,that was a big party drugging
people, which is meth?
Someone pops an adderall infront of you, you don't think
twice, you're like oh this guylikes to get after it but like
that's how meth was looked at atthat point.
That's wild it's just arebranding, just a different

(27:39):
name dude, this older guy I knowthat was telling me this.
He's like yeah, man, everyonewas doing it.
It was like it kept the partygoing and all of a sudden the
party changed and some peoplegot out and some people they
just never made it.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
That's crazy to me I could not imagine just being
okay with.
Well, actually I take that back.
There was, uh, we were at aparty.
Tyler and I were at a party onetime for halloween and I
remember we, we were all sittingin this big circle and this
girl dressed as a nurse had thisneedle in her arm, and I
remember being like oh, that'sfunny, she's dressed as a nurse,

(28:14):
that's the costume, and thenshe's hitting the plunger.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
You're fucking kidding me.
Swear to God, swear to.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
God.
And I look at Tyler.
I'm like what is?
And all of a sudden they passthat on to someone else.
They're all using the sameneedle and everyone is doing it
in this circle.
And keep in mind, this was justa party that we were walking
down the road in college.
There was a bunch of houseslined up and everyone's just
having big house parties.
It was also around Halloweenand so we just stopped in at

(28:40):
this place that was hopping andwe go to the basement and
they're all like shooting up inthis basement and all of a
sudden I'm like whoa, this isn'tjust a Halloween costume, like
they're legitimately shooting up.
I'd never experienced this andI'd never seen this in a normal
setting in my entire life.
I've literally only ever seenit on TV.
And so I remember thinking likedamn, we got to get the fuck

(29:03):
out of here.
And one guy that we were withknew the people that were there
and he, I was walk out of here.
And one guy that we were withknew the people that were there
and he I was.
I look at him and I'm like Imust have looked panicked.
He looked at me and he's likedon't, don't do anything crazy,
just act like you're interested,but pass.
And I'm like, uh, no, I'm, I'mgetting out of here right now.
Fuck dude, I could not believeit.
So I could see, you know, Imean everyone there was just so

(29:27):
cool with it, except for likethe five or six people that we
were there with, and we're likeevery one of us is like we have
to leave now I do not want to behere like what do you guys
fucking pussy?
everyone was so okay with it too.
I was like this is why, dudethat's how it happens.

Speaker 1 (29:43):
Like you always wonder like or people.
You know everyone's always likeI would never do meth, I would
never try heroin and then all ofa sudden.
It's just tyler and I weretalking off camera about how the
people you surround yourself,like I heard that my whole life
but it hasn't hit as hard untilnow.
And it makes so much sense tome, like if you're around people
that are shooting up and it'scompletely normal, and they're

(30:03):
like, yeah, man, you just trieda couple times, it's not even
that addicting, that's bullshit.
Like it's just fun way to relax.
Like I see how people aretalked into.
Like you know, fuck it, what'sone time gonna do yeah, and then
that one time I mean dude, Ifuck.
I remember the first time Ismoked a cigarette.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
I was hooked like I do heroin one time, I'm done.
Yeah, well, if all the viewersand whatever can take anything
out of it, whoever you surroundyourself with is who you're
going to be and how successfulyou're going to be.
Me and Cody have a lot ofconversations about how it's
pretty wild that everybody inour friend group is doing good,
but that's because we all havelike-minded mindsets and all are

(30:42):
driven.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
I always thought it was really corny when people say
your network is your net worth,but I think there's a lot of
truth to that.
No doubt the people that yousurround yourself with are who
you kind of become, you know,and the ideas that you think
about are really just like anaccumulation of everyone else's
ideas around you.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, if you get together and just get blackout
drunk with whoever you consideryour friends at the time, that's
all you're going to do.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Where we'll talk about what stocks are doing
randomly.
Yeah, yeah, and even me,knowing that I don't have any
stocks, you know I don't havemoney to invest involved with it
yeah, fuck dude, I lost my asson like wednesday this week that
tanked so hard yeah oh my god,dude, big deal in the news,
right it bounced back decentthough I, though I got about 25%
back.
Yeah, so I recently got into acar accident and someone hit me

(31:34):
and I had to take my car down tothe Tesla body shop in Eden
Prairie to get it fixed, was it?

Speaker 1 (31:39):
because you're a fascist, you're a Nazi.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Well, I'd asked the people when I got there I was
like hey, have you guys seen anylike crazy protests around here
?
And the guy, dead serious, waslike not here, because we're
kind of like hidden.
This is a brand new building.
We're kind of in the middle ofnowhere.
They're like on the outside ofEden Prairie, you know.
So it's like no one has comehere.
But their store in goldenValley they're like they've had
people protesting outside ofthere.

(32:02):
Luckily nothing broken.
But there's plenty of placesaround the country that people
are like breaking into thesetesla dealerships.
Um, I know the one superchargerthat we stop at going to my
mom's the shields in fargo.
Someone tried lighting it onfire.

Speaker 3 (32:17):
How dumb are people that they don't realize.
Teslas are surrounded withcameras that are always
recording.
Yeah, like all, I see all thesevideos of people vandalizing
and you can fucking see themclear as day through all these
cameras.
Did you see that Wolf Electriccyber truck?
No, in I-San-y got spraypainted with swastikas and shit.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
No, I did not see that yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Wolf Electric the solar guys get turned on.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeah, oh my.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
God In I-San-y.
What the fuck.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Dude.
It just pisses me off because Idon't understand why people are
going after Teslas.
Don't buy one, then.
Don't fucking go after thepeople that bought one before I
told.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Cody to cover his ass .
Just get that bumper stickerthat says I bought this before
Elon went crazy.
I think that that's like theantidote for people to be like
hey man, I'm not a part of this,but it's like you're not even
hurting Elon, You're justhurting the person that owns it.

Speaker 1 (33:08):
You're not 100.
Yeah, and that's what kids do,that like we were talking about.
When you're a kid you don'tunderstand action, consequence,
cause, effect.
It doesn't fully process.
So when you do dumb things thataffect people's lives, you just
laugh and move on.
Whereas it's like now, I thinkabout the poor motherfucker that
woke up, had to deal with thisnow in the morning and what he's
got to go to work, get his kidsto daycare.
You know it's like, oh fuck,it's so fucked up to me.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
Regardless of what your reason is, don't fuck with
other people, you know you gottahave more sophisticated
boycotts, like even the, eventhe bud light boycott.
Look at how successful thatshit was crazy.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I mean in retrospect, it's like why the fuck it was
even had it was prettyridiculous but In retrospect
it's like why the fuck did thateven happen?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
It was pretty ridiculous, but holy shit, was
it effective.
I mean, look at their stockprices, everything.
They were frantic.

Speaker 1 (33:53):
Yeah, dude, I love Bud Light Lime, and I had to
drink them alone for a coupleyears, you didn't want to get
seen.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I was scared to bring that back out in public.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Luckily I never drank any Bud Light so I didn't have
to get brought into thecontroversy.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, locally I know a lot of places just stopped
carrying it all together wasn'tselling at all.

Speaker 1 (34:15):
Shout out red he.
He's like nobody buys it, itdoesn't?
We talked about him on hispodcast.
Oh yeah, that's right.
Actually he's like yeah, I, Idon't even I called the
distributor.
I took half of what I wouldnormally take because it was
hitting them that hard.
I mean, I was one of thosepeople that I'd never even drank
bud light.
But I, besides the lime, Idon't fuck with the lime, but I
was like I'm sure as fuck I'mnot gonna drink it now.
I don't want to be fuckingpussy.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Those bud light platinums when they came out,
though god those things weretasty really good and it was so
in the aluminum and no the bluebottles, the blue glass, it was
so fancy, okay, so I onlyremember ever having them in
those Tallboy aluminum bottles.
I really liked those.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
I think I only had them in the it's crazy too how
every beer tastes different theway that it's bottled.
Oh yeah, Glass bottle beertastes different from cans.
That taste different fromcanned bottles yeah, the canned
bottles are damn near top-tierbeer taste.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
Yes, I totally agree, get a little bit of that metal
flavoring.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
in there it is so weird.
Especially like I love a CoorsLight Silo.
The big motherfucker got thebig hole so you can really
fucking guzzle her down.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Oh yeah, the breather valve on the side of it.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Oh yeah, I was thinking, did you guys drink
Natty Light in college?

Speaker 2 (35:22):
No.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
Is that something that you guys weren't Natty
Light guys, Because when I inBemidji, that was just like the
big beer that the college kidswere drinking.
And I never see anyone drinkingNatty Light and I looked at the
price of it.
It's catching up to Bush Light.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
It's getting up there .

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Yeah, so when we were in college, the liquor store
that we used to buy from was thenumber one distributor for Bush
Light in all of the world.
Granted, they don't sell it inall of the world, but everywhere
that they distribute bush lighttoo.
So they always bought inmassive bulk and so they had
really stupid good prices.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
It was like 15 bucks for a 30 or 16 dollars for 30.
Like how could you beat that?
Oh yeah beat that we'd go geteight, 30 racks at a time.
Yeah, we'd have a guy buy itfor us and he's like dude, you
know I can buy more, I don'thave to.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
He'd buy so fucking much.
I'll just go whenever you want.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
I'm sick of these guys coming out with a dolly to
carry everything out to my truck, but then we're calling him
every day for beer, so he, wouldhe just quit buying for us?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
quit answering the phone call that's why you got to
get a couple of them, so youcan spread it out a little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
You don't want to wear out the plug dude.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
That's one thing I I feel bad, but also I'm proud of
myself because, you know,growing up I had we had multiple
guys that would bias it.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
When I turned 21 I was a motherfucker dude I didn't
buy shit for anybody I took ahard stance because they will
ruin your life for that and I'ma worrier.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
I think about the cause and effect in like what if
I?
Because I know when we were 17,.
It's same thing when you'reyoung, you don't understand what
you're doing and we would drivedrunk more than we should have,
which is never, yeah.
And all I could think about wasbuying some kid a case of beer,
him driving drunk, somethinghappening, and then my life's

(37:05):
over because I bought this caseof beer.
That was all I needed to neverdo, even if nobody knew.
You knew that you caused this,even like some of my buddies,
because I would turn 21 early.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I'd be like nah dude you just got a power trip on
them it was.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
It was nice.
It was definitely nice.
It was hard.
It was lonely hitting the barsfor a while, being being an
older one of the friends, butyou know I was the younger one
that everybody was sick of goingto the casino by the time I
turned 18, so that sucked.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
I was at the forefront.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
dude Me and my buddies after school would go
every single day for a goodperiod there $20 a piece.
Hit it on blackjack.
Everyone loses.
Get out the door.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
The good hit it on blackjack everyone loses get out
the door.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Oh, the good old days two dollar blackjack table.

Speaker 2 (37:51):
Yeah, oh yeah.
Now I lose like 40 bucks andI'm sick to my stomach yeah,
well, you can't play for lessthan ten dollars a hand.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Nowadays, it seems like dude, it's crazy yeah, uh,
your age is showing, tyler dude.
Well, the value of the dollaris showing.
I think that's what it comesdown to yeah, what was that?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
what's the comparison ?
It was where it was like uh,the us dollar and something else
have always remained almostexactly the same.
Well, I can't remember what itis well not, not, not the euro.
It was um gosh.
I can't even remember thatthey're the same, like they've
always yeah, they've almostremained the same, but for the
first time ever it dipped below.
Usually it's the opposite way,where the other one would dip

(38:28):
far below and then come back anddip below and come back.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
It had to be the Chinese dollar, I'd assume.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
No, because that's yen, isn't it?
I think that's Japan.
What about rubles?

Speaker 1 (38:41):
Is that one?

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Isn't that like India ?
Yeah, fuck yeah, dude.
And also Legend of Zelda, right?

Speaker 1 (38:48):
Rubies, All I know is that fucking greenback baby.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
Heard that the blue stripes.
What do they?

Speaker 1 (38:56):
call Canada money.

Speaker 3 (38:58):
Dead presidents.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Dude, is that what they call it?
They still call it dollars.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
No that's what we call cash back.
In high school there was acouple dead presidents in my
wallet.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
Their money looks fucking stupid, like a monopoly
money.
It does.
It does look like that redfucking bullshit.
I'd be embarrassed.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Yeah, I don't know, do you ever?
Are you cash guys?
Do you ever carry cash on you?
I have been recently.
I don't know why I don't ever.
It's almost like aninconvenience for cash.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Cash ruins me, dude.
I know people always say likeno, you bring cash, because then
you can watch it.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
No, I don't, I treat it as like it's separate.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
I do girl math dude yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I have cash, whatever's, in my bank account.
That's the money I have.
This cash means nothing.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Once it's in, I can't .
It's extra, it's extra money.
It's not in my bank account,it's just.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
This is free money to spend on whatever I want, you
need cash to play pull tabs andif I don't have cash?
I can't play pull tabs and yeahseriously that, and that comes
down to the not drinking anymore.
What do I do at bars?
I eat and I play pull tabs.

Speaker 1 (40:02):
That's what there is to do yeah, I guess and I feel
like if you lose on pull tabsober it fucking hurts a lot
worse well, I guess it alwayshurts yeah but at least it's not
like I go away I don't go nutseither.

Speaker 3 (40:14):
Like I used to work with some guys, I'd go nuts, you
know, like five, six hundreddollars just going, chasing that
thousand dollar in the box.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
I've seen people literally spend their rent right
in front of me.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
It's nuts and it's like how is this ever going to
pay out?
Like I feel like you're in sodeep, you're all you're.
You're just trying to breakeven at this point.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
There's no way it's a good investment, if you win,
though dude, that's what fuck?

Speaker 1 (40:38):
that's what keeps people in man, they eventually
will win and they will only tellyou about that.
Oh yeah, they want a thousanddollars.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
I have a good buddy of mine that's like that.
He'd be like dude.
I won $300 at the casino lastnight, but won't tell you that
he spent $700 to get that, yep?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
That's what they only talk about.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
It's all about what they won and not what they spent
to get that.
Well, our motto at the casino,that meme of those diamond
tunnel diggers and the guys likeright next to this huge pile of
diamonds.
But he's turning around becausehe got discouraged.
But the guys that just lock inand just keep going, they
eventually get to the diamonds.

Speaker 3 (41:15):
Take out another hundred brother.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Well, dude, we know some guys personally that have
probably lost a million dollarsat the casino.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
Oh yeah, I've always heard of people losing their
houses and stuff and when I wasyounger it's like how does that
work?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
but then it's like the credit lines the casino
gives and stuff like that yeah,or like people going to take out
, take out home equity line ofcredit on their house and then
you can't pay that back man, Ijust realized that's what he
lock stands for.
Yes, okay, cool, yep, I alwayshear he lock yep home equity
line of credit yeah, big financeguy, this is big finance guy,
yeah so you get this money, andthe crazy part about it is is

(41:51):
actually you don't pay anypayment on it.
You only pay interest on it ifyou want, and so you can drag
that out for a very long timeuntil you win which I would
imagine happens not very oftenI'd say never Dude.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
I would not want the casinos coming after me too.
You know, if you try to run off, on it.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Well, wasn't there a farm here where some dude lost
it in Vegas and they a bunch ofpeople flew out here and
liquidated all his assets?
Yeah, yeah.
That's the story I heard when Iwas a kid.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Obviously, I'm not going to go into it Right right,
right Local.
In case I don't know the rightperson.

Speaker 1 (42:30):
I love a good folk tale.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
Yeah, good folk tale.
Yeah, this was a local story ofthis guy literally losing his
entire farm.
Family leaving, kids leaving,wife leaving, and then these
people from out of town fly inand just start selling
everything and taking what theycan.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
It all runs back to addictions, man.
I think addictions runeverybody's lives to the
smallest thing.
Don't mess with me before Ihave my coffee.
Fucking, nicotine, alcohol,drugs, gambling everything is
addictive, depending on what'syour personality at a certain
point.

Speaker 2 (43:04):
Yeah, I think everyone has vices and I think
the levels of it vary dependingon who you are.
But it could be something asinnocent as I can't function
without coffee all the way up toI'm a junkie and I can't
function without being notmyself Different levels.

Speaker 3 (43:23):
It's an MLM.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
Addiction is crazy to me Different levels.
It's an MLM, yeah, it is.
Addiction is crazy to me,especially when it gets to its
worst point, to where people areliterally ruining their lives
right in front of you.
They know it, I know it, thepeople around them know it, but
it's just not enough to stop theaddiction.
I struggle with my addictions,the way that I can convince

(43:48):
myself that it's not that bad oryou know what we'll quit
tomorrow.
I can't imagine if thataddiction was fucking heroin.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I would be screwed.
What are you addicted to?

Speaker 1 (43:56):
oh god, dude, I'm addicted to nicotine.
I'm addicted to food, I'maddicted to weed, and those are
my big ones for sure.
Alcohol I'm addicted to gettingfucked up once I start drinking
, but I'm not addicted todrinking like there's, there's,
I'm.
I'm addicted to the vibes andthat's that's one thing like I I

(44:18):
wanted to talk about with tyler, where it's like I thought that
I needed the alcohol to hit thevibe but, then the vibe in the
morning would be so fucking badthat it ruined how much fun I
had the night before anyways itruined your whole week at least.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Yeah, a hundred percent the anxiety.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Me and you both struggled heavily with anxiety
kills me it's crippling and Ithink that's what keeps me from
being addicted, yeah becausethere's no part of me like if I
let her rip tonight, there's nota fucking chance in this world
that tomorrow I'm gonna rip itlike I can't.
I don't work that way.
I'm good for one crazy nightand then I need a couple easy

(44:54):
off ones, because it willdestroy me even when we first
started the podcast and stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Just uh, we try to shoot skits the next day and
stuff and it's just likeimpossible to have a vibe and
stuff the next day and get intothe mood of filming when we're
just so in our head and feellike absolute shit.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
How much of that do you think is nature versus
nurture, to like do you?
Think a lot of people are justpredisposed to having that, or
do you think a lot of that isyour relationship with the thing
?

Speaker 3 (45:22):
predisposed to always having anxiety, and how you
handle it?

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Not necessarily that, but just like maybe the
negative side of that, because II have never been affected by
that and I always think tomyself is it because I think
back to like when I was a kid?
Regardless, if I was tired, ifI didn't want to do something, I
had to do it no matter what.
So, like there's something Ifeel like in my brain that's
just like you don't feel bad,you have to do what you need to

(45:48):
do.
The second, that there's a lullin the day or whatever, then I
really feel the effects like,specifically, a hangover or just
being tired.
But I do think, if I know Ihave to do this thing, that
takes priority over how I'mfeeling.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
See, you can tell when someone that doesn't have
anxiety is talking because hejust doesn't understand.
Yeah and no offense, buteverybody's fault.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
Everybody is different, everybody handles
things differently and stuff andtotally don't yeah, it's like I
feel like coded and so likeI've always had anxiety my whole
life.
Yeah, and it goes back likeprocrastination when you hear
that, it's like I would becrippling in high school if I
know I have to do homework orsomething and but I won't do it.
And it just gets worse andworse.

(46:29):
The longer you wait it getsworse and you keep putting it
off.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Yeah, until you explode so you talk about
anxiety.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
I think I would almost argue that I have really
bad anxiety, to the point whereit's almost exact opposite of
effect of what you get whenyou're hung over and make sure
you do everything exactly like.
I'm so anxious about not doingthe thing that I've convinced
myself there is no other option.
No matter how I feel, no matterwhat the situation is, it's
getting done, and sometimes I'mso anxious about that for myself

(47:01):
.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
It works both ways.
It just it just depends on thesituation, like when you ask
about like, if it's somethingthat came about later, if it's
something that worked up.
My whole life growing up,anxiety was not a word that was
ever said in my household, likeI never even knew what anxiety
was.
It was never like I had allthese weird quirks of things I

(47:22):
would do that.
My dad would literally callpussy shit and my mom would call
overthinking.
Like that was the way that theylooked at it yeah and you know,
as an example, like the simplestform, the earliest I can
remember anxiety in not evenrealizing until I was much older
, is when I was a kid.
I, if I could not fall asleep.
It would put me in a spirallike when I laid down.

(47:45):
If I couldn't fall asleep rightaway, I would go into an
absolute spiral of like if Ican't fall asleep now, then I'm
gonna be tired tomorrow.
And what if I can't fall asleep?
What's what if it's a whiletill I fall asleep?
And like there would be norhyme or reason why I would be
worried.
I was a kid, I had nothinggoing on the next day, but I
would spiral, dude or somethingeven as crazier.
When I first got my first phone, it was the prime time of

(48:07):
sending crazy like if you don'tforward this to 10 people.
This will be in your room and Igot my first track phone when I
was in fourth grade, so I wasstill pretty young and I
remember like I would befreaking the fuck out like I
didn't get this off what is thefirst off?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
what's the point of those anyways, like whoever
creates those there, what do yougain from that?
There was no link, nobody itwas literally just forward this
message.
There was no notoriety likethere's not.
There's no benefit to this, sowhy?
What the hell is the?

Speaker 3 (48:36):
point of starting.
It was all before you couldmonetize things.
Yeah, you know, oncemonetization came, it got worse.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
But it was just for to know that, like I did
something that other people aredoing now, like I'm controlling
yeah, it would have been waymore beneficial if you had, like
, a website that was likesomething and you forwarded it
with the message like forwardthis link to 10 friends or
you're gonna die.
Nobody knew how to make moneyon the internet.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, that's a good point that's a really good point
, god that's so weird to me andeverything is ran by money now.
Now Nobody does anythingwithout money.
Yeah, very good point.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, very good point , even like it's ruined
entertainment a lot for me tooBig time.
Because now I think wheneverthere's a product placement or
someone talking about a thing,I'm thinking how much did you
get paid to say this?

Speaker 3 (49:20):
But that's also because we've been in this
industry and know how much moneyis involved.
I run into so many people likejust they were just asking me,
uh, my girlfriend's dad wasasking me about the podcast and
how that works and stuff, youknow, and just like trying to
explain them, uh, advertisingand marketing and stuff and how
there's money in it, like theycan't comprehend that I guess
like older generations and stuffof how it works yeah, it's so

(49:42):
crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
I, I, I've obviously just been in it for so long, but
there's so much confusion forme that someone can't understand
that, because of how everythingelse is sort of a similar model
now.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Which I mean kind of in this conversation, is a good
time to bring up today's sponsor, betterhelp.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
I use it and I love it every day.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Yeah, no, you're 100% right.
I it's crazy, as when you hearad inserts like that, it's like
if it doesn't really make sense,it feels very ingenuine, it
feels really it puts me off alot to the whatever I'm watching
um, which actually brings meinto I think my biggest vice,
like my biggest addiction Ithink by far, is my phone, or

(50:27):
just like social media ingeneral, it got.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
I got really bad over the winter.
There's like time.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
There's like a couple of apps I've downloaded that
will lock apps on my phone and Iwill do everything I can to
completely disable that, knowingthat I'm disabling it and I use
this weird excuse of likebecause we post things on social
media and that's a part of mybusiness, that that justifies it
, but knowing full well like Ilose sleep over it, I'm probably

(50:56):
a worse dad because of it.
I'm probably a worse friendbecause of it.
Like I'm not engaged inconversations, I probably get
less work done because of it.
But I use the excuse of likeI'm consuming to understand and
not that I'm just like zombyingout for a couple of minutes.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
I do the same thing with YouTube.
I say, you know like you canlearn things on YouTube and
stuff.
It's like, yeah, but whatpercentage of my on YouTube does
desk scrolling reels like it's?

Speaker 2 (51:23):
TikTok, well, and I get this weird spot of like
constantly consuming content.
That's like, well, and I getthis weird spot of like
constantly consuming content.
That's like learn how to editbetter, or learn how to
strategize better, or learn thisbusiness topic, or whatever.
But then, all of a sudden, Ifind myself not even remembering
these things that I'm watching,and then I'm just brain mushing
, yeah, but it's like a analysisparalysis.
Like I, I consume way too muchand then I can't hold all of

(51:44):
that and I can't app.
I can't apply that to what I'mdoing.

Speaker 3 (51:47):
I'm learning shit that I'll never apply in my life
the fucking water table inDubai so that they can rebuild,
uh, their agriculture systems,how, how to restructure, um,
landfills?
I watched like a fucking hourlong video on landfills and how
they work and shit.
And it's like just pointless.
Fucking hour-long video onlandfills and how they work and

(52:08):
shit.
It's like just pointless.
Like yeah, but realistically,we did just bid on a landfill.
We didn't get it, but I couldhave used that knowledge, yeah,
but you'd have looked like thefucking man.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
Yeah, like how does this guy know so well?

Speaker 2 (52:16):
the other guys already did landfills I'm the
only one that hasn't so, soyou're just trying to catch up
yeah, but you're using this asan excuse to consume, yeah it
was like dirt shit.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
You know, I like consuming a lot of um videos on
projects across the world ofmath, mega projects and dirt and
stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah, I was talking to my manager about how like
dirt is like a passion onceyou're into it and I love
talking about it and stuff, dudeI totally get that, because you
used to say that back in theday when you first started and I
remember thinking like I just,I just can't, I can't picture
myself being like that.
But now I realize, like I Ijust watched this video on um,
the editor for gladiator 2.
The movie I watched like abreakdown of like how he edited

(52:55):
the movie, why he made certainediting decisions, the different
takes that they you know, theychose, and the sound design for
it.
And I remember thinking, like Iknow full and well I have
absolutely no desire to edit afull-length movie, but I'm still
watching this because you'repassionate about your work and
it's a string of your work.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Yeah, I'm passionate about my work.
Do you ever consume anything onbricks and chimneys?

Speaker 1 (53:17):
dude, I I do definitely enjoy it and like if
I see other people post likecool jobs that they've done, I
love it.
But even just in real life Ilook at every chimney and be
like, oh, they need four coursesand some tuck pointing like it,
it fucked me up.
Or like if I drive by somethingthat they did amazing work, it
catches my eye like oh, that'sreally good.

Speaker 3 (53:35):
They did a good job there I know if I was in masonry
like going to these old townslike um north.
Have you ever been tonorthfield?

Speaker 1 (53:44):
dude, northfield and det Detroit Lakes is another one
that came to mind right away,where they've got just amazing
fucking historical buildingsyeah.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Dude, it's unbelievable, even here at the
pub, the work that they used todo back in the day.
Oh yeah, like those.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Corbel courses, where that's how they make like the
cool designs on these buildings.
That's how they make like thecool designs on these buildings,
like we.
We could mimic it to a point,but you know we've got guys that
are great bricklayers thatcouldn't do anything like that
it was such an art it's fuckingcrazy, but it was a pride thing
in those days you know if you ifyou had the building with the

(54:21):
cool brickwork like that was abig fucking deal yeah, and
everyone in the community builtit said they could say I was a
part of that.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
It's even the church in Baroon Like it was built by
everybody in that community andthey would said we built this
church.
You know it's bad ass it was.
Everybody was a part of it.
It's crazy.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
We did this, yeah, once you and I think a lot of it
just gets to be when you getolder you kind of narrow your
focus on one specific interest.
You know, because I do findmyself like my wife really hates
watching movies with me nowbecause, like I'll, I'll notice
certain cut changes that I'mlike, oh damn OK, so I'll pause
it.
Be like OK.
So you know you notice how thiswas a totally separate shot,

(55:02):
because the way her hair laysfrom here to here you can tell
that's a different take.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
That is so annoying.
Yeah, yeah, she hates it.

Speaker 2 (55:14):
Oh my god, I nerd out over that.
I love it.
You actually pause it, like youswear I have before I don't
know because she.
She lit me up a few times.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
I'm like all right, I won't do that, I used to be
like I used to get scared atlike haunted houses and uh,
scary movies.
I I was just such a pussy whenI was younger and now, after
like just shooting skits andstuff, I feel like I have such a
different understanding ofproduction value.
Just like when we go to pinehaven, I'm just analyzing how

(55:39):
cool and how much money and howmuch work was put into building
the set and doing this and yeahand everything and it I don't I
guess I don't get because Ican't get involved and like try
to be transformed into this

Speaker 2 (55:51):
world you're not.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
This is real, yeah because I know it's like all
this is fabricated that'sactually a really good point.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
I think doing concert photography and videos has also
ruined concerts for me a littlebit because I understand the
production and then I'm thinkingabout like when I was a kid
going to concerts it feltlegitimately like a movie, Like
you're in a cinematic experience.
But now I see it for theproduction and it's like knowing
that this same exact thing isrecreated every stop of the tour

(56:20):
that they're on To me likeruins, some of like the stardust
for it.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
And you guys were talking shit about me with bode,
about the nicki minaj concertand it's like I wasn't.
I said you had a great timethere, so but, like I thought,
the morgan wallen concert blewbecause it was literally just a
guy singing on a stage there wasno real production to it, but
also he wasn't the headliner.
So I heard that morgan does abig production when it's his

(56:45):
deal, but then, like nikki, youknow rap and stuff I feel like
they have to do more productionit's all about so many moving
parts and costume changes andhow much work into building the
set.
That was a fucking ice rink twodays ago.
Like that was like just socrazy.
To me, like that's what I likeabout it, is the production

(57:05):
value of concerts yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Oh yeah, it's an art for sure.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
That makes the entire show where I'm the only way I
could enjoy like just a regularcountry singer is if we go to a
bar and there's a guy sitting inthe corner like doing an
amazing job, then I will lovethat.

Speaker 2 (57:22):
I would love that but you're not gonna like seek it
out.

Speaker 3 (57:25):
No, well, I would.
I really want to go see abluegrass player live.
Like a really good bluegrassplayer, just go fucking see oh,
dude I completely agree.
When I stumble into a bar withlive music or something, it's
sick or like these buskers.
I don't know why there's this.
Have you ever seen Button theBusker?
I don't even know what, but abusker is a term for the people

(57:51):
that sit on like corners in lasvegas and do little tricks the,
the statue guy and stuff thathad the hat out with money.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
That's the name for him it's a busker.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
I'm pretty sure that's what I've never heard of,
that I could be wrong, but I'mpretty sure that's okay.
Yeah, so there's this dude thatdoes youtube live and instagram
live and stuff and he's justhe's a busker live streaming his
one-man band thing and it'slike mesmerizing to me that's
why I gotta look up definitionof busker yeah, I've never heard
of this yeah, what was that one?
I was really wrong about themoon landing.

(58:15):
I got a lot of fucking hateabout that yeah, well, diet coke
over here.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
Yeah, yeah, we've all fucked up on the podcast.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
Yeah, shit would yeah , busker is a person who
performs music or otherentertainment in the street or
another public place formonetary donations.

Speaker 3 (58:29):
Another random thing that I know that does.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
I have never heard of that he wanted you to be wrong.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
No, no, I just genuinely have never heard that.
I'm surprised because I've beento Vegas a few times.
I've never heard the wordBusker thrown around.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
There's a lot of Buskers there in Vegas.
It almost sounds like a sluryeah.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
It.

Speaker 1 (58:47):
It almost sounds like a slur.
Yeah, it's one of the last oneswe can use.
Buddy, Hold on to it.
Hey, we're bringing some backman.

Speaker 3 (58:53):
Me and my people.
I got a team together.
Oh, your people, huh.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
We're working, here we go.
I ain't going to get specific.
Sam just bought a Tesla, by theway.

Speaker 1 (58:59):
It's black and I park in front of Pizza Pub Pine City
all the time.
I was going to say it lookedlike a Kreutzer
tongue-in-counter to me Go spraypaint it.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
That's funny.
Well, what do you think, boys,should we get out of here and go
enjoy all of our addictions?

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Yeah, let's get drunk , oh boy, yeah, just kidding, Do
another year brother.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Yeah, another year Might as well.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Anything you.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
Plug Go.
Follow Tyler on Snapchat at.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Tyler Yoloplashik.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Yeah, I will say if anybody is struggling or
anything, especially in men'smental health, there's nothing
wrong with seeking out ortalking to people with therapy
or just owning up to whateveryou think is wrong with you 100%
Nothing wrong with that Bevulnerable it's not corny.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
It's not corny.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
No, especially guys like us, with you 100.
Nothing wrong with that, it'snot.
It's not corny, it's not corny.
No, especially like guys likeus.
We have very good friends thatI I have a lot of friends that I
have that I talk to aboutserious stuff, and if you don't
have that, that can be reallyhard.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
There's a lot of people that are hard to be
serious with totally and thatthey can't get serious.
So find somebody you can beserious 100 yeah, the offer
stands with me as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
If anyone you know, obviously I don't yeah, because
you're not fucking busy callsomebody else.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Don't call cody, I'll respond all right yeah,
probably don't hit me up, I'mjust kidding hit me up, hit me
up if.