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The human experience of consciousness may not be unique, as evidence points to extraordinary abilities in both animals and non-verbal autistic people who might access a shared mental realm beyond our understanding.

• Exploring the phenomenon of singers using auto-tune in live performances and how it affects the concert experience
• Discussing the monopolistic practices of Ticketmaster and the astronomical fees added to concert ticket prices
• Sharing retail war stories from Black Friday, including commission-based sales and corporate culture
• Examining the "Telepathy Tapes" research on non-verbal autistic individuals who appear to communicate telepathically
• Investigating animal intelligence across species, from dolphins with regional dialects to chimps with complex social structures
• Considering how consciousness might exist as a larger network that various living beings tap into differently
• Exploring strange animal-related laws that reveal our complicated relationship with other species

Check out the "Chimp Empire" documentary and the "Telepathy Tapes" podcast to dive deeper into these fascinating subjects.


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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How do you guys feel about that?
When you hear the artisttalking and you can tell it's
auto-tuned, does that kind oftake it away from you at all?
How do you guys feel aboutperformance?
Because I love when, like so,talking about Prof, you could
tell those were his vocals.
He was just letting it rip.
But I've been to concerts wherethey're singing over a track

(00:21):
and it's just fucking.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Dude, that's what the Nicki Minaj concert was like.
I had to go with her.
She couldn't find anyone to gowith.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Throw her under the bus.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Just the shittiest performer dude.

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Really she was lazy as fuck, because Tyler and
Tucker went to the Nicki Minajconcert.
Granted, they were in a suitein the Target Center, but Tyler
said to this day this is thebest concert he's ever been to.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
Was he still drinking at the time?

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Yes, he was.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Sure, I'm sure that had a bit of a factor, but it
was like in comparison to theother, like artists I've seen
perform live in the energy, theoutput energy.
It was like she is mostly.
You know, she probably justdropped the bag on, like she
just went about it, like, oh,I'm just get somebody to animate
all these cool visuals.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
The set design is cool, yeah, but it's like, but
as far as performance?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I mean she shook her ass a little bit, but that's
only half of the show.

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Like the music still has to be good right, yeah, yeah
, I'm all, I'm all in on.
But she's an.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Og now yeah, she's fucking dude it's 20 years yeah,
it's like yeah and it's like I,you know like she's kind of.
She's kind of getting up there.
She's been doing it for a longtime.
I don't blame her, I'd begetting tired too.
She's in her 40s, I wouldassume she's got kids and shit.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
She's a grown-ass woman.
She's old enough to be agrandma right now, for sure.
How?

Speaker 1 (01:30):
crazy is that?
Same thing with Rihanna andBeyonce?
They are mature women.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
They are fucking young bucks I'm excited to see.
I got tickets for christmas.
I got um me and ray tickets.
Uh see susan kendrick oh, that'sgood yeah and I'm glad I did,
because that was before theyannounced, like the super bowl
halftime show oh dang, so surethe price is skyrocketed, I'm
sure, dude, if I remember, likeit was back in like early
december, right after theyannounced the tour, I think it

(02:00):
was like within like seven daysI got the tickets but, dude,
like like on Ticketmaster, it'slike it'd be like blip, blip,
blip blip, blip Like it was justlike they're just scooped up.
No, like, just like.
As far as like selling.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Oh availability.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, I was like holy fuck.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, because I've had that happen when I'm trying
to buy tickets and like when youclick on it it it gives you the
window for like four minuteswhere it's your you're holding
it.
If you don't buy them in thatfour minutes, they jump back on
the market those bastards.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
You gotta wonder also like they obviously can control
that.
Oh yeah, so in my head I'mthinking like to make you think
you need to buy this right thissecond.
You can't think about itabsolutely how much of that is
real and how much of it do youthink could be?

Speaker 2 (02:43):
fake.
A lot of it's fabricated.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, I mean that makes me buy that instantly when
I go on their website.
If it's already something I'malready buying, I'm not just
cruising Ticketmaster's website.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, call now before all supplies last.
It's the same concept, justcarry it over to present day.
Yeah, and the fees areunbelievable.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's a damn near double.
It doubles the ticket price.
It's stupid, it's insane.
That's why you see all thesebig people like Theo Vaughn.
He always says it Don't buythese tickets anywhere that
charges all these crazy fees.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
I'll come back around whatever, and it's like a
monopoly on live entertainment.
Live Nation's got it.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
They own everything.
Live Nation owns Ticketmaster,right, pretty sure, yeah, or
they're at least the same parentcompany, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
That is one thing I love about StubHub.
I was Ticketmaster diehard foryears and I just switched over
to StubHub because when theyshow you the price, it's fees,
taxes, everything included.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
So it's no surprise Like you see two tickets $120 a
pop that's exactly what you'repaying for I think there's
actually legislation tointroduce a bill that ticket
selling websites have to displayall of the fees and everything
right up front, just like creditcards, like they have to give
you the final price.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
There's no sneaking in in checkout all these extra
fees oh, dude, I've been crushedby those fees where it's like,
oh fuck, yeah, these are good,like wild games are specifically
what I'm buying tickets formost of the time and the prices
vary.
If you buy it the day of,sometimes you can get a steal.
You buy it in advance.
If they're good, it's superexpensive, if they're not so

(04:16):
good, it lowers.
And I've been like, oh, that'sa good deal, get everything
loaded in.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
And then each fee on each ticket is like 30 just for
the processing fee, and thenthey get you on total horseshit.
And then they offer you ticketinsurance, yep, where it's like
half of whatever the total costis, and then you can cancel at
any time, even though youalready can, up to like a week
before or something crazy likethat.
It's like what?

Speaker 2 (04:40):
the hell.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
Even then, I still don't think they give you all
your money back I don't evenknow, I don't even buy it,
because I'm like, if I'm notgonna go, I'm just gonna it's
the same thing when I like whenthey now it's like if anything
electronic that's over like 50,it's like do you want to buy an
insurance?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
no, it's like, no, I'm not fucking getting the
insurance at for this fuckingyou know ps4 controller.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
That's what's crazy.
It's all profit.
And even if you do buy that,you're never going to go in and
say this broke.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Give me my money, what are the odds that they're
actually going to honor it?

Speaker 3 (05:06):
Well, that's the thing.
When I worked at Sears therewas a protection plan on
everything and as someone whowas commissioned, you would make
your most money on those.
They were called SPPs or PPs,like a small protection plan or
a protection plan, and it was abig enough deal for profit for

(05:28):
the company that every time yousold something with it you would
have to go on the radio andlike tell the manager, I just
got a protection plan.
But you would say like uh,whoever the manager was on, go
to go to the blue room for threeyears, because it'd be like a
three-year protection plan, huh,so we would like call that out
over the walkie-talkies becausethe like as a flex or yes, all
the managers were like so intolike call that out over the
walkie talkies Cause the like asa flex, or yes, all the
managers were like, so into like, call it out when you get it.
call it out Cause it rileseveryone else up, makes them

(05:50):
want to sell one Yo that's so.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
You'd get a sale.
You'd be all hyped up.
Get on your radio.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Got a three year in the blue room baby cult.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
you know it was like jp to the blue room for three
years and then now all the manyeah, cody, yeah, it'd always be
like back.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Yeah, get that pp just like super corporate
culture.
You know it's like, oh my god,dude, what?

Speaker 1 (06:12):
is the retail like life, like is it.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
It's sweet until like quarter four, you know, like
from, like you know, october tojanuary sucks because it's so
crazy busy.
I guess I don't know anymore.
This was also back like 2015,but, like you know, uh, black
friday everyone dreaded, becausethere was always two days that
we were pulling all night sothat was my next question.

(06:36):
You've worked a black fridayyeah, dude, most amount of money
I guess in my college yearsthat I made in one day was
working Black Friday because Iwas commissioned.
A lot of people in the storewere not and they still do the
same stuff which would suck.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
So you just have a terrible like you just direct
you're not making any more money.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
The first Black Friday I worked.
I'll never forget it.
I was only there for a coupleweeks.
I had started in, like October,you know, and like Black Friday
rolls around, it's November.
I'm like I barely know how torun the computer, but I remember
being trained in in electronicsand this was the first week
that I didn't have to share mycommission with whoever was
training me, which I come tofind out was complete bullshit.
This guy was just stealingmoney from nice and yeah it was.

(07:17):
It was insane.
So I found out.
Also, this guy called out sickthe day before black friday.
So I'm like, oh hell, yes, I'mthe only one in all of
electronics I get all the sales.
So basically I found out therewas also these things called
SPFs, like extra littleincentives to sell certain
things.
There was these 60-inch SamsungTVs that we got a $200 SPF on
every time we sold one.

(07:38):
It literally didn't matter ifyou got a protection on it or
anything, but if you got aprotection on it or anything.
But if you got a protection onit, it would be a little bit
more than that, even Sure.
So like, let's say you can make300 bucks on a TV.
I went in the back and I saw wehad like 10 of them in the back
.
So like, rather than trying togo into the back, see if we
still have it, come back out tothe front, bring it to the
person whatever.
Have them, go around back topick it up.

(07:58):
I would.
I literally brought out, boughtout all these TVs and just made
a big stack in the in the hallof Sears with a sign that said
the price on it, and thensomeone would just come in and I
just literally sat at theregister all night and they're
like what's the best one to buyright now?

Speaker 2 (08:12):
And I'm like that one .

Speaker 3 (08:14):
All right, they'd grab it.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
I'd ring it up and they'd be on their way.
I sold every single one.
I was like dude especially onblack Friday too like people
will walk in.
Not it could be any price youknow, honestly, like just
listing price.
But if you put it in the middleof the aisle like that and sign
dude, yeah, they like assumethat's the best deal and it
actually was a really good deal.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
Honestly, it was one of the best TVs that we had at
the time and it was veryreasonable.
Tvs have gotten a hell of a lotcheaper now than what they were
back then, but dude I, Icouldn't believe it and it made
like three grand and I was therefor like 15 hours or whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
So it sucked.
But would you guys open atmidnight?
Was it like a midnight openingor no?
It was like five like five orsix pm and then you'd be open
all throughout the whole nightsure, okay, into the whole next
day shift.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, dude, it was like only you can only work like
12 hours at a time, so thenafter 12 hours you'd take an
hour break and then you couldcome back in damn, it was all
like automated.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
So does sears attract a crowd?
Like, were you getting peoplelined up at the door or does it?
It wouldn't back at this time.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yeah, this was the place to go for like other than
best buy.
This was the electronics andappliances was huge.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
I just I always wondered, because it's like you
know, like before you're playinglike a hockey game or something
, you get them pregame yeah.
I was like I always imaginesitting there like holy fuck,
yeah, it's the doors.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
It was kind of fun because we do like these like
really cringy corporate teammeetings before the doors would
open and it'd be like all 40people in the store in a big
circle and then, like the wallstreet hyping everyone up, it
was honestly He'd be like allright, today we're going to kill
it, yelling in front ofeveryone and everyone would get
all hyped up.
Hell yeah, we're going to sellso many protection plans.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
Dude to be commissioned, like you were
saying.
If you are hourly and itdoesn't change besides your
workload, it's ten times moreTerrible.
If you're commissioned, it'slike all right, this is where I
make my fucking bag.
This is my Super Bowl.
You would have to sprinkleincentive in there.
I don't see how any sane personwould go about otherwise.
Are you cool with disclosing?

(10:10):
Do you remember the dollaramount that you got from that
first time you did a?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Like the total commission.
Yeah, it was right around$3,000 for the first day as a
college kid.
At like 19.
Oh my God, I was like literallythe thought crossed my mind like
why don't I drop out of schooland just go full-time here,
because I was only working like20 hours.
I was like why don't I justwork full-time and then I just
make way more money than if Iwere to go to school for graphic

(10:35):
design?
But I'm glad I didn't, becauseobviously all of sears are
closed now and that whole modelis totally different.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
that's so crazy that that like I don't know Sears
seems like such a long ago thingit does.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
But now that it's just extinct, you used to okay,
like even pre my time, like backin the 70s and 80s, you could
buy whole houses out of Searscatalog and they would bring it
to wherever you wanted it to goand then set it up for you Like
you could buy everything guns,clothes, houses, could buy
everything guns, clothes, houses, chicken eggs, you name it.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
You could buy it out of the sears catalog.
I remember in history classwhen I was young, learning like
the history of the sears catalogand that was a huge thing back
in the day.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
They would, yeah, if you got the sears catalog it was
like the whole family getaround circle some items they
want I gotta see a little peekbehind the curtain on like the
distribution side of the searscatalog from my grandpa telling
me about like in the early 80shis hunting club down in hugo
was like the number one sellerthrough sears for quail eggs in

(11:36):
the whole world.
They were shipping quail eggsthroughout the entire world they
were like birds bring thousandsand thousands of quail eggs to
the airport to be shipped out,like once a week and he had like
some in with the security atthe airport because he'd like
bring them donuts and shit tolike.
Let him just go straight to thefucking planes and like hand

(11:58):
them the eggs instead of havingto like go through security.
Have them check everything.
It was just like check everyegg, quail eggs here you go or
quail like live quail, they'dship them next day.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
Especially if he was doing this in the 80s.
I'm sure getting through theairport was probably pretty easy
at that time too.
Good point, you could probablydrive right up to the gate.
That was back when he smoked onthe plane too.
I was going to say they wereyeah, I couldn't imagine.

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, that's, it's insane.
Because I mean, imagine justgoing in a magazine and like
calling up a number, be likeI'll take house number j5, and
then they just show up in acouple of months and build this
house for you wild.
That's insane.

Speaker 1 (12:34):
Also, the house probably cost five grand right,
yeah, like I'll trade you somefucking quail eggs for it pretty
nuts when you think about it Ifeel like the only thing that
compares to that in today'sworld is like some of these shed
building companies where, like,they'll put up, put up a shell
in one day, like you just planout, like all right, yep, I'm
gonna have it here.
Yeah, they show up, you have afucking shed in a day.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
Yeah, like that's insane dude yeah, it's pretty
nuts and you can get prettysimple with that stuff too, but
I think the closest thing inlike modern times is probably
like tiktok shop or timu or youknow, wish, you know, where you
can literally buy everything, orvivor, you know, for tools and
shit oh, yeah, yeah dude, youcan just like buy anything and

(13:18):
it's relatively significantlycheaper.
Yeah, and you know otherwise,but the thing, the thing about
the sears catalog is, I wouldassume that a lot of it was from
inside the united states aswell, whereas, like all these
new ones, it's all cheap becauseit's all coming from china.
What I just found out recentlyis how tiktok shop, timu wish
are all able to sell stuff supercheap and still get it to you

(13:40):
fast nowadays, like before, likeearly wish days, it would take
months for things to come, andsometimes not at all.
Um, they've started like chinahas started buying huge
warehouses in the united statesand they keep a lot of this
product in the united states andit just ships from a warehouse
here instead of from china, andI'm sure they avoid yeah,
they're always up something.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yeah, because that brings me into a rabbit hole
that I got into at some pointwhere, like because trump you
know, he's always talking aboutchina they buying up our lands
china, that's good dude, andlike I didn't realize, like they
were buying up so much farmlandand warehouses like you said,
like especially connecting to orlike right next to military
bases, right, yeah, like we owethem trillions and they own so

(14:24):
much.
Us soil.
Dude, like what is happening,and dude they'll farm the land
here and then ship the food backto China.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
Yeah, or like them owning all the components that
go inside these cell towers.
Oh gosh yeah, oh man, you wantto go down a rabbit hole and get
your tin hat out.
That is a good rabbit holebecause it's a little spooky.
I think there's got to be.
I mean imagine I mean obviouslythere's no secret like anyone
can get your data from any appthat you have on your phone, but
imagine how much more data theyhave from, like, tiktok shop

(14:54):
specifically.
Dude.
Every single person I knowthat's bought something on
tiktok shop has bought a lot ofthings.
It's never like I bought thisone thing and I'm done that's
why I don't open that door.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Dude, I don't, I've, I've never once been on tamu
timu, whatever the fuck reallyfuck yeah, because I don't want
to open that door because I knowthat I'm gonna go like oh shit,
like look at the tools, like,oh, like a little ricky, like
the little, and it's cheap yeah,I know, I have I've bought
multiple things off of timu,multiple things off tiktok shop,
but like energy drinks.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
You know I'll come across like this 12 pack of
energy drinks for five bucks.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
I'm like, okay, I'll buy that, I don't care whatever
the thing that pisses me offabout timu is it takes advantage
of the impulsive adhd brains.
Like it.
You go on.
It immediately throws up like ascratch off where you scratch
these off and if you get fourwinners and you get this deal at
a free $15 gift and then likeit just keeps bringing you into
all these little runs.

(15:47):
It makes it like a casino Ahundred percent and I like I've
seen it with people I personallyknow where they get so addicted
to Teemu and cause like I'mgetting all these free gifts and
it's just such a piece of shit.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
You're spending more money.
Yeah, spending more money.
Yeah, I've definitely done it.
There was this big thing lastwinter where, if you get 10
people to sign up for timu ordownload the app, it was like
you get like 300 in credit orsomething like that you could
buy a lot of shit for 300 ontimu did you get?

Speaker 1 (16:17):
did you guys see all the ads when they were doing the
excavators on?

Speaker 2 (16:21):
yeah, I forget them popping up.
Yes, dude.

Speaker 1 (16:23):
So seaboys did a video on it where they ordered
three different ones and youknow obviously they were
complete pieces of shit, butlike they were real dude, they
sent them to them.
They fucking worked and, youknow you, you could do very
minuscule tasks with it.
It was extremely weak, but itwas, it was pretty cool at that
point just battle bought it justjust just standing wins.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, they definitely were.
Yeah, it's crazy how well theyhold up, considering they're
only 4 000 bucks.
I do know a landscaping companythat uses those things to go
into small jobs like into likebasements or like, because they
will fit through a sliding glassdoor if you pull out the door.
Oh yeah, those ones like you gointo like a basement or like
they'll also fit through gatesin a yard, like, uh, you don't

(17:08):
have to remove pieces of fence,you can fit right through the
gate.
So if you're just like doingsomething in a backyard, they
make total sense for fourthousand I do my laundry with
that motherfucker scoop up,dropping the dryer bam, that's
about as much as they canfucking lift dude yeah it's
basically.
It's basically a glorifiedshovel, but way more fun to
drive Dude fuck yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
So I've been going down this rabbit hole about I
don't know why.
First of all, rabbit hole hasreally hit my vocabulary lately.
I never said rabbit hole.
I think it's because I've been.
There's this guy on YouTubethat makes all these like Reddit
rabbit holes, like craziestReddit rabbit holes, and shit,
and it's just been sticking withme.
But I went down a rabbit, aReddit rabbit hole, and it was

(17:52):
on on weird laws, specificallyanimals, and I had to.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
I had to jot down a couple of, because I just
couldn't like.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
These are laws that are in effect at this very
moment.
Like in Alaska, moose may notbe viewed from an airplane, so,
technically, do you have to,like, cover your eyes?

Speaker 3 (18:10):
you can't, you're not allowed to look at it, dude,
it's fucking.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
It's offensive to them because, oh okay.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
So I bet this goes back to people like like, uh,
messing with the wildlife, likepurposely flying looking for
moose asians did this goes allthe way back to pearl harbor.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I'm telling you every video that you see of like
people at yellowstone fuckingwith animals I'll watch that for
hours, bro.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
They love animals I don't know.
Walk right up to like thisfucking.
You know 800 pound bison andthey like yeah yeah, try to take
a selfie with it.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
The yellowstone videos, arestone videos are
crazy.
All those signs, like all thesigns that you see that say
don't feed the bears.
That's specifically because ofAsians.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
Dude, it's a bear.
Stay the fuck away from it.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Hawaii was bad too.
They like walk right up to the.
They're like the reason whythey sheer drop and they'll be,
they have to put a sign therelike it's fucking mounted in the
ground, steel sign bolted to it.
It's like don't stand close tothe edge.
And then it shows a littlepicture of a guy falling off the

(19:13):
edge.
Oh, my god just just justcrowds of them, just standing
like a couple feet away, likewhat's that?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
what's that called the um?
The feeling that like I need tojump, or like what if?

Speaker 2 (19:24):
I want to push someone.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, what's that called?
I think it's called the edge.
There's like some name for it.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
It's inside of you yeah, it's like, yeah, it's a
little buzzy.
I definitely don't have that.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
I, I'm not the thought crosses your mind I'm
not afraid of heights, I guessin general, but if there's like
a, like the grand canyon, Iwould never get very close to
the edge, like I don't like thatfeeling of like.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah, fuck that like vertigo.
My sense of depth gets way offand if I know like I can't tell
how far down that is, I amdeathly afraid of heights.
I cannot stand close to it.
It like makes I like grip myphone tight, I like make sure
nothing's hanging out of mypockets and I get really like
weak stomach.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
It feels weird, but if there's a railing I don't get
nervous at all.
It's like that, even if therailings, flimsy, couldn't even
hold.
Yeah, it's something about like, if it's just open, an open
area with a ledge, nothingstopping you.
It's I don't know my anxietyimmediately spikes.
Probably have you ever been tothe Hoover Dam in Vegas?
No, I would love to.
I did a report on it.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
It's insane.
There's a road or a bridge thatgoes across the whole canyon
and you can look over and see.
And I went there with Taylor'swhole family Her uncle got
married in Vegas and we'rewalking on this bridge.
All of the whole family iswalking along the railing like
whoa look how far down it is.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
I railing like whoa look how far down it is I'm in
the middle, so like I can't seeeither side, and I'm just like
look straight, look straight,just look straight.
I'm like trying not to have apanic attack.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I would love, I would love to see it, but yeah, I
don't know man I.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
I'm.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
It's weird because I'm not directly afraid of
heights, but some certainsituations I am well, yeah, when
it's like a 600 foot drop orwhatever the fuck, it is like
that's a whole different animal.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Oh, it's insane.
And then you think back likehow many people died making this
thing, because of its so likeits mass.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
There's literally bodies inside it, especially
like the skyscrapers and shitthat were built a hundred years
ago, All the skywalkers dudeScrew that Unbelievable Screw,
that so so this one's actuallyreally serious, and I agree with
it.
In Connecticut, any dogs withtattoos must be reported to the
police.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, that's animal abuse, ain't it?
That's fair, unless it's a firetattoo, though.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
What if it's like flames and shit?
Then you don't need to tell noone.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Like dude, if you were a tattoo artist, you could
do some cool shit with your dog.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
I'm not going to disagree.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
The loss, like specifies dogs specifically dots
, so cats, they don't care, Iwas just thinking that, yeah, so
if you, if you got any firetattoo ideas, try it on your cat
like a naked cat you could,that would be insane you ever
seen one of them?
Ugly fuckers?
Oh yeah, they look like anutsack with legs, dude dude,
have you ever seen naked owls?
No, holy shit, holy shit.

(22:03):
Oh my god, I gotta look this up, google it right now because
it's fucking alien dude.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
I saw the.
I don't know what.
I probably read it, but Ifyou're listening.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
You need to get on your phone right now and Google
it oh gross.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
What the fuck, dude?
Oh my god, dude, if that thingwas outside your window at night
, oh gross, it creeps me out.
Is that a real thing?
Are there owls that arefeatherless?
Can they fly then?

Speaker 2 (22:32):
I don't know, but uh, birds kind of intimidate me
like scary birds, like that dude, I'm glad you brought that up,
because I've been thinking aboutthis all week.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
It all kicked off.
I saw a video where this guywas sitting in his car.
A hawk flew into his window andwas just sitting on his dash
staring at him.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
Fuck no it freaked me out.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
So like my entire life I've had an irrational fear
of snakes and I've actuallystarted to really come a long
way with that one.
But over time my fear of birdshas gotten worse, like birds
actually freak me out yeah, Idon't even know how to explain
it.
I it's not like the classic,like ducks and geese, but even
like chickens, dude Geese, arenothing to fuck with, though.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Yeah, they're really not.
Yeah, they will whoop some ass.
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
When we had peeps in here onthe desk I was getting a little
freaked out that he was likeright in my face, Dude, they'll
square up with cars and shit,it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
When we had peeps on, he would start flapping and the
wind force is insane.
To make a bird, that big fly,there's got to be a lot of force
behind it.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
To see it like that is a different experience.
Dude to harness that energy andtrain them to do your bidding
fucking wild.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Oh, dude, that's actually funny that you say that
I was listening to this DuncanTrussell podcast and he was
talking about how, with AIDuncan Trussell podcast, and he
was talking about how, like um,with AI, they've just discovered
a way and, in certain patterns,that whales speech is similar
to humans and they're trying todevelop a way to be able to
communicate with whales.
And then this guy got totalking like, at what point do

(24:04):
we draw the line?
Because, like, if I can talk tosquirrels, and I tell this
squirrel, like, because, like,if I can talk to squirrels, and
I tell this squirrel, like, Ifucking hate my neighbor Brian.
Like, will you, I will, I willset you up for life, I will give
you a warm place to sleep andmore food that you could ever
eat.
All you have to do is scratchhis fucking eyes out next time
he comes up to my door.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yeah, Like where do you?
Where do you draw?
I bet China's already workingon it.

Speaker 1 (24:30):
Dude, that would be the tipping point in war.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
Oh yeah, If you can control animals, dude, Dude,
even imagine.
Okay, think about if you couldcontrol bugs, If you could
control ants.
There's like a what?
Like a thousand to one ratio ofants to humans.
Despicable Me 4.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
That's the plot.
No, cockroaches, oh yeah.
Yeah, that's the.
They have a plot.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
No, uh, cockroaches, oh yeah, yeah, cockroaches, yep,
yeah, okay.
So yeah, I mean I just thinkabout they were talking about in
this podcast too that, um,there's never been a time in
history where, like humans,could really communicate with
wildlife, you know, in a in away to like coordinate with
wildlife.
We just kind of like cohabitateand we kind of just like take
over their shit yeah, and justsay like this is where we are,

(25:10):
this is where you are yeah butif you could like say, hey,
watch my cabin while I'm gone tothis like pack of wolves, like
that'd be crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, I'll pay you in steak or whatever you just tell
, like a big buck, be like, hey,be at my, be in front of my
stand at this time I'll give you10 bags of corn.
Just fucking, murk their assbut like going off of whales it.
They have you seen wherethey've, like, started war
against people, where they packswill go out and jump in sink

(25:43):
ships like small boats and shit.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Yeah, what else you got to do?
I just saw insane.
I just saw this video Someoneshared it on Instagram of this
whale eating an entire boat andthere's people on this boat.
It comes out, grabs onto thisboat.
Everyone's still standing onthe boat.
I mean, what do you do?
You're not really going to jumpin.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I suppose that's like some Godzilla shit.
I love me some Godzilla movies,that's great.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
I watched another video where a whale comes in,
scoops up a body border.
You know like the little Scoopsup completely, puts them in his
mouth and then just spits itout.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Like it realizes oh, this isn't something I want Gone
so.
Dude, that's what's crazy.
It's like whales are so smartand dolphins are so smart that,
like Dude, it really makes youthink.
There was this story of thislike free diver and he had this
dolphin like come up to him and,like you know, basically trying
to like talk to him and or saysomething, and he dives down and

(26:38):
sees another dolphin liketrapped in a net, freeze this
dolphin and then they're likeswimming around him, like what
he describes as like happilythat's so nuts.
Insane.
I wish I knew the guy's name,but like you know, dolphins,
they obviously live in water,but they can only be underwater
submerged for like 10 minutes or15 minutes or something like
that, without having to come upfor air, so this had to have

(27:01):
just happened.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
They probably recognize.
Well, like they probablyrecognize him, and I wonder if
they related like, found thatcommonality.

Speaker 3 (27:09):
Like he's a good guy or like, no, he breathes air too
.
Oh, maybe Like that could be aReal recognize, real dude,
mammals recognize mammals.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Like why dolphins, why do they get so?
Like what branch, evolutionarytree or whatever?

Speaker 3 (27:23):
like that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well, it makes me wonder because you know, I don't
know.
Well, it makes me wonderbecause, you know, I don't know,
Maybe they've done all thescience bullshit behind it, but
like they could be just as smartas us, they just don't have the
prop.
Like you know, we obviously arethe land rulers.
We have the thumbs, we can makeit happen, but in the sea.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
maybe they are just as smart as us.
They just don't have fuckingopposable thumbs.
They're kind of the people,yeah well, they're like a whole
different thing.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
That's like a different species in itself,
like they don't really sharemuch With anything right or
jellyfish.
Is it Wicked?

Speaker 3 (27:54):
smart.
They're like that's the onlyplace that this DNA is found.
There's no other versions ofthis or like jellyfish.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
I don't think they have brains.
Technically, I think it's justlike it almost behaves as.
It behaves as it's probablybullshit, but I think they
behave as a giant cell.

Speaker 3 (28:13):
Oh weird, they're alien drones.
Yeah, like they oh dude,they're multidimensional beings
Like Bigfoot.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's proven.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Stepping in and out of reality.

Speaker 2 (28:24):
Yeah, yeah, different planes of existence.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Well, that's the thing that is weird to me about
the dolphin thing is likethey're the only other thing on
the planet other than humansthat let that just have sex,
just to have sex.

Speaker 1 (28:38):
They just do it for fun, do it for pleasure and they
like in like grape, you know,like oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, like
there's sexual assault literallyin dolphin communities like.
From what I understand,according to science, it is the
only animal that like knowinglygrapes.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
They Welch's soda all over each other.
Yeah, dude, that is really.
That is really weird.
Also, I mean saying, like youknow, we're assuming that
they're just as smart as us isthinking like we are the
smartest things.
We have no clue because wecan't communicate with them.
They could be 10 times smarter.
They just don't need technologyto do what they got to do.
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well, and they have more area terrain technically
than we do.
Yeah Right, have you seen?

Speaker 3 (29:19):
those videos of them like doing big circles in
shallow water.
So it kicks up a bunch of dirtin the water and fish can't swim
out of it, so they'll jump overthe dirt ring to like get to
the clear side and they'resitting there waiting on the
outside, just like catching themin their mouth, like they do it
as like a hunting technique.

(29:39):
They're like go and circle these, this school of fish, so they
can't go anywhere.
They'll jump out of the waterand they catch them.
They're all waiting outside ofthis circle.
It's like a hunting pack.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
They'll go out together to go crazy, or dude
chimps to chimps are wild.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Like what's the difference between that and a
hunting party going out to likehunt a moose in Alaska?

Speaker 1 (29:58):
We drive deer.
Yeah, set up in a line, youmove together.
You have hunters on the otherside that are waiting to shoot.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
That's literally a pack of wolves dude.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
That's what like wolves do.
But I mean like if you, if you,if you were to think in like
primal terms, like the need toeat, and then it's like that's
kind of the next step up fromlike you hunting on your own for
your own existence, but thenlike looking out for your like
community, like once they likepush back, push through that
barrier of like you know it'snot just like myself or like
single existence, it's like theexistence of like the others
around you oh yeah, like thecommunity aspect.

(30:37):
Yeah, it's like the next likestage of you know whatever like
consciousness, yeah yeah, yeah,because there is like a pyramid
to it.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Um, I remember talking about this in in
psychology.
It was like your baseline islike your basic needs, like
water, shelter, food.
And then the next step up islike community.
And then I don't remember whatthe third one is.
But the last one is like fullspirituality, like you're
coexisting, like your.
Your physical presence doesn'tmatter, it's all like more of a

(31:05):
conscious place.
Uh, I wish I remembered whatthe third one was, because I,
that is like kind of where, like, humans live, like the normal
person lives there, right, butdolphins, I mean from what we
can see, you know, and again,like we only can see what we
observe, and there's likesomething to like the world that

(31:27):
changes when you're observingit.
You know, like how they actwhen no one can see them may be
totally different than how we'reviewing them, and they know
that they're being viewed it's alot like chimp empire you've
seen that documentary oh yeah,it's like they.

Speaker 2 (31:43):
They literally they went about it like most docs.
They just go out there, theyfilm for, like you know, a month
and they come back.
Well, they integrated withthese chimps.
They stayed there for yearsuntil they got comfortable
enough with them.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
I'm literally going to watch this tonight, fucking
crazy.
You already hooked me in there,dude.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Dude, it's so intricate.
There's societies, they havedifferent ranking officials
within their tribes and they goto war with each other and they
have territories, markedterritories, and then, like they
scout out, they venture into,like neighboring tribes
territories and then they hadbeef and then they fucking, they
fight because they're in theirspot, yeah, whoa, and they're

(32:20):
like they and they.
Um, you know, obviously you knowthey're talking to each other
and shit, but like there's thisone scene where they're just
like chilling and they're youknow, picking fleas and stuff,
and all of a sudden they're alljust like like.
There's this one scene wherethey're just like chilling and
they're you know, picking fleasand stuff, and all of a sudden
they're all just like like.
There's like the one designatedhe was like, he was like a
scout kind of guy or like he wasalways the one that like would

(32:41):
like round up for wartime.
He just like, he just likefucking gets spidey sense and
then everyone else picks up onit and then they just go.
They're like literally walkingin a line.
They're like they sense thatthere was like another chimp in
their territory.
So they walk and they fuckingfollow them and then they're.
One dude got shit scared and heleft.
Well, the fucking you know the,the bloods or whatever from

(33:04):
next door.
They caught him leaving on theway back and they fucking
murdered him, dude dude, oh myGod dude.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
And then, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
So then like they go out and do their thing, then
they're on their way back, theyfind his body and they're like
mourning for like a day.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
It's so fucking intricate dude.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
That's crazy, yeah, and I mean this also goes to
like all of I mean every animaleverywhere, everywhere, because
there was also I just heard thisthing about elephants.
There was like this guy in Iwant to say it was South Africa
that was like caring for thiswhole herd of elephants and he
passed away and like all theanimals knew that, and then
every year, on the anniversaryof his like, yeah, death date,

(33:44):
these elephants would go back tothis like hut that this guy
lived in, or like cabin orwhatever, and would like sit
there for a couple days and likehut that this guy lived in, or
like cabin or whatever, andwould like sit there for a
couple days and like mourn thisdude's death yeah it's like whoa
, like we don't know shit.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
It's like I don't know what I don't know what,
like what series of things I'velistened to recently, but it's
kind of like the just beensticky with me.
It's just the thought that,like, consciousness could be
like some larger, larger thingthat we're just tapped into, but
all living things could havejust this ability to pick up on

(34:19):
this big stream of consciousness.

Speaker 3 (34:21):
This is the fourth step on the pyramid dude.
We've been talking about this alot lately, but the telepathy
tapes Fill me in on everythingthat you know about this lady.
What was her name, this galthat was on Rogan?
What was her name?
Kai Kai, something, kai,something.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Kai something.
Show her her respects, dude,telepathy tapes.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
So this is like specifically with nonverbal
autistic people.
Yeah, dude, they can read mindsbro have like the ability to
connect to each other in thislike this like conscious chat
room from all around the world.
Oh, dude, that was like.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
That was like link up that was like the the chapter
I've yet to listen to the tapesyet like, just the little bit
that I picked up from was her onrogan.
But like, um, basically she setout to, she had a couple
instances where, like it seemedto I don't know she was like
working with as a para orsomething like that, and then,

(35:16):
as she was working with uh,non-verbals or whatever, um, she
like began to like suspect thatthere was like like a, like
some form of communication orthey were like tapped into some
kind of knowledge, even thoughnot, they're not like don't have
the ability to speak orsometimes, like it affects their
like motor skills and shit too.
But uh, like, the more she wasin that industry, the more like

(35:39):
she like worked with otherteachers and stuff and she uh,
and they all kind of had thesame thing of them saying like
yeah, like I don't know why, butum like one example she gives
is that, like she was gonna, shebrought some like candy or
something like there's this onegal that she worked with and uh

(36:01):
brought her like favorite candybar or something like that, and
then when she was, she, like youknow, worked with her all day
and then, like, before she left,she like communicated.
We're like, hey, yeah, can Iget those M&Ms now?
She was like I had no idea,like she didn't see it, she
didn't say anything about it,but like, or like the bond
between kids and their parents,like nonverbal kids and their
parents, and like they did theseexperiments.

(36:30):
It's kind of like what into themainstream is like tapes of
these, uh, these experimentsthey did, where they would put
them in two separate rooms andthen they would show, like the
parent and the kid in twoseparate rooms yep, they would
show the mom like a picture oflike different flashcards,
different images, and then thekid in the other room would say
what those images were and itwas like just insanely accurate,
and sometimes the mom wouldn'teven know what the picture was
specifically Like.

(36:52):
In that moment she wouldn'tknow what it was, but then the
kid in the other room would givethe like correct description,
even though the mom, like didn'teven know what it was yeah,
exactly.
And then it was like.
It was like and she like saidit multiple times too on the pod
that like, the more the likeshe or like put out the word,
the more she like feedback.

(37:13):
She got within like thatindustry of like, like people
working with like non-verbalsand stuff.
They're just like tapped into,um, yeah, tapped into, like they
can still communicate, but justlike in a different, in a
different way, like tapping intothat, even though they yeah
yeah, I know it's crazy, becauselike uh, there's like putting

(37:35):
it like I'm butchering the fuckout of it, this whole like hive
mind mentality.

Speaker 3 (37:40):
I think you see across other things too, because
there was this, this thingabout mice in los angeles, where
they're trying to do somethingwith the mouse population or rat
population.
Yeah, and these mice on theWest Coast or I'm sorry, they
were doing this experiment, Ithink, in LA or New York, and
then the rats that they werefucking with in New York, the

(38:02):
ones in LA, would adapt to thisway that they were either
catching them or killing them orwhatever, without them ever
introducing that in la or newyork again.
it was one or the other thatthey were they would like fuck
with one and the other oneswould react to it as well.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
The steps they knew, yeah, like they knew already
what to do and it was likealready, it was like a massive
percentage quicker by the timeit hit the other coast wow, dude
, I'm just sitting here, high asfuck, just mind blown right now
I'm like I don't I don't evenknow how to process like, like,
like I said, like my, mybutchering description does not
do it justice yeah, look it up,the telepathy tapes yeah, yeah,

(38:37):
yeah.
It's like a um, it's like a 10episode podcast too, where she
like did all this research, shelike basically bundled it up and
uh, yeah, just put it out there.
And now it's like starting to.
I mean, obviously it's crazy,did they starting to?

Speaker 3 (38:50):
I mean, obviously it blown up some Rogan, but Did
they ever mention like otherpeople other than nonverbal
autistic people being able tolike access this hive mind web
chat?

Speaker 2 (38:58):
No, that's the crazy thing.
Okay, so like bringing it backto like the whole like fucking
chat room thing, is that like aum, they so like the kid she was
working.
So like she first heard aboutthis like through the, the kid
that she was like working withand um, and the the parent was

(39:22):
saying like yeah, sometimes justlike she'll like go in her room
and then just like put like herpillows over her head and then
just like fucking zen out forlike hours and they asked her
like what she did.
She was like she's like oh yeah, it was on the hill.
She's like what the fuck youtalking about?
Like then she was like going onto say that like she can tap in

(39:42):
into like other with othernon-verbal kids and they
basically like somehow, way oranother they all meet up in like
this consciousness fuckingnetwork.
But then they did like they andthen they like reached out,
like and it's like regional tooit's super fucking weird where
they go there and exchangeknowledge and ideas and then

(40:05):
they like, then like they reachout to like other people in the
area and they're like, oh yeah,like go there all the time and
then they like like some.
Each one has like its ownspecific way of dialing in.
Some of them it's more visual,some of them it's more auditory
like it's fucking strange thenit's like all around the world
too.
like she was saying, like israel, there was like the hill in

(40:26):
israel, and then they allreferred with the same name,
like they kind of speculate thatit's like same thing, kind of
visual, or just like it'sfucking crazy that's insane.
Could you imagine?

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Just like zonking out for a little bit and just being
able to like connect with yourbuddies and dude, that's the
they're saying that.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
the one detail I thought was fucking like another
level was that it was likesomehow guarded, oh, like, like
only those of like pure will,like good intentions, and like
oh was like there was some levelof security there's like a gate
, where it's like you can'tenter this realm until you know
you have to, yeah like, passthrough this barrier oh my god,

(41:07):
wow, that's insane well, dude, I, I have a friend that has a
non-verbal child and he'll tellme, like he just knows things
that he should never have known,like it's, like he'll just be,
he's, he's so smart in his ownway and it's just crazy to me.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
They're all starting to make more sense now, like
dude I I you know, it's not hardfor me to to talk me into
believing things but this isblowing my mind, dude, and it's
like you gotta.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
You gotta listen to either the rogan interview with
this kai girl or listen to thetelepathy tapes.
So I just got like a littlebrief glimpse of the interview
with rogan.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
But this dude is interesting and it kind of makes
sense, because I tried tellingray about this and it was like
right away, like after bingingthat episode the following night
, and I was like like allretarded in the morning.
I'm like yo they're like yeahnonverbal skin.
They're telepathy.
She's like dude, you're dumb, no, no no, no, no, no, no it

(42:07):
really like when you think aboutit in a way of like okay,
before we had the ability tocommunicate, like as a species,
like we still somehow or anothercommunicated, even before
language was invented, right,and it's like.
Then you look at like theparallels between like species
of birds, like when you seebirds fly in a flock and they
know where to move, when Right,they're not talking to each

(42:29):
other, right.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
They're like honking and making noises or just like
that when you see, like flockbirds and they're like they
fucking, like they all move, ora school of fish.
Yeah, move is one right?
Do you?
Do you believe in twintelepathy?
Do you think there's anythingbehind that?

Speaker 2 (42:44):
because that's what I like I was gonna say you know
more about that than I do.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Well, just like growing up I've always heard
like twin telepathy, Like it'sbeen a thing.
You know people talk about itand then, like TikTok, there was
a thing going around where theywould open the door like
halfway, have one twin on oneside, one twin on the other, and
then like have them both oncamera and be like all right,
hold up a number, and they wouldjust be killing it.
You know it's easy to set up,but gets you thinking like well,

(43:09):
wasn't that a big thing in likeworld war ii?

Speaker 3 (43:11):
wasn't like hitler was doing all these tests on
twins there?

Speaker 1 (43:15):
it wasn't hitler specifically, there was a nazi
doctor oh okay, that was justevil as fuck I don't know his
name.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
They were really killing the names they would
like separate these twins andthen, like, mutilate one to see
if the other one was feelingpain and so fucked up they.
I guess they learned a lotabout twins but, like whoa, kind
of caused some blowback fromthat one.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Yeah, I think we need to dial it back, dumb it down a
little bit.
It's a little over our head.
I got a couple more animal laws.
More of our speed that I'd liketo rip through, and this one
really caught my attention.
In Alabama it's against the lawto promote or participate in a

(43:58):
bear wrestling match.

Speaker 3 (44:01):
Really this goes back to the whole inhumane thing
with animals, I guess.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Apparently that was a big thing at a certain point.
Was bear wrestling?
I don't think it'd be harassinga bear.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
I think the bear would be doing the majority of
the damage in that situation.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yeah, I think people are just dying left and right
from this.
Yeah, I think you're right.
Alabama is full of weird laws,though.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Where do they even find bears?
In Alabama, I think there isbears.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
I think they're just different.
There's a different style.
It's a little skinnier, scaryscary they sound like southern
accent.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
I think they do, bro.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
That's another we want to get into the animal
loophole or fucking rabbit holes, then uh, that's another one
where, like different animals indifferent regions have accents
and that's crazy shit.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
But well, wait, what, what jersey like dialects?

Speaker 1 (44:46):
yeah, for sure, especially like I saw a big
study with whales wheredifferent whales, depending on
where they were located in theocean, they spoke different
dialect and then with dogs ofthe same breed in certain parts
of the country will have adifferent dialect.
It's fucking nuts dude, I don'tknow enough to give you a
breakdown on it, but it's prettywild.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
There was actually, speaking of Alabama weird laws.
There was this old-timey lawthat I had just heard about
recently.
That was you can't wear amustache in a fake mustache in a
church in alabama, because backin like the 20s 30s, it was
apparently like a huge thingwhere people would like go into
churches with fake mustaches,i'm'm assuming like the Charlie

(45:30):
Chaplin era and like it wouldmake people laugh, like it would
cause a ruckus.
Oh, sure Too much that it woulddistract everyone from the
church service.

Speaker 1 (45:39):
And the church is pretty big in old Alabama.

Speaker 3 (45:41):
Church is big Church and cousins fucking no fake
mustaches.
They still don't fuck aroundwith fake mustaches.
I wonder if you'd get caughtfor that.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
So this one makes me wonder what was going on in the
New Jersey Zoo, because it isillegal to offer whiskey or
cigarettes to animals at the zoo.
I think that's fair.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
Don't even ask.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
They got hooked on smokes a while back, yeah, so
after I got on the old rabbithole of animals, I went on to
some sexual laws because I'm abig sex guy any of them overlap
huge big sex guy.
Here and in utah it is illegalto marry your first cousin until
you're 65 no way, that's amormon thing for sure I, I guess

(46:26):
I get it.
You know, at that point, ifyou're 65, you're not married,
your options, you might, theonly people that live within 50
miles of you might be yourcousin.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
Or that you know I respect it.
Yeah, your community getssmaller the older you get.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
You can't have children that late Oof, I'm in
for it, dude I think it's got tobe a Mormon law.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
If it's in Utah, it's got to be created by the
Mormons.
I'm guessing this weirdloophole in Mormon ideology 65
is a good number.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
See, this one would really affect Bodhi, because in
Texas the possession of morethan six dildos is prohibited.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Really, I can't trample my rights as an American
.
I can build a dildo hut if Iwant.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
You'd have to sell off the collection.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
I think would you be able to get around this as a
loophole of saying that it'snovelty, Like it's a collection
and that it's not for use.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
I read a little bit more into it and I guess it is
like any type of sexual toy ingeneral.
It's not enforced very often,but it is a law.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
They're trying to take away our rights.
They don't want people to befighting the sex wars.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
They're taking away all the sex toys, Not Trump's
America.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
See, this one's a little local for us and this is
an issue that.
I've run into in the past.
In Minnesota it is illegal forany man specifically to have sex
with a live fish.
It said nothing about dead ones.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
No, no, it's also illegal for women, because there
was that really popular courtcase just within the last two
years of a lady had put a fishinside of her for an OnlyFans
video and she went to prison forit.
Was that in the group chat?
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
So I think this was one of thelast episodes that Tyler was on.
I opened that shit in public,dude.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Holy fuck.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
It's a real thing.
It's a real thing.
She literally put this fishlike I don't know if it was a
crappie or what.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
It'd be so much easier for a girl to fuck a fish
than a dude to fuck a fish.

Speaker 1 (48:25):
I don't know man, I don't know, I mean their mouths.
Yeah, probably would be muchharder.
Yeah, that's insane dude.
I mean I think it's cool likeswitch it up a little bit, get
some new content out there, butmaybe get a fake fish.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
She's trying to innovate too early, you know,
it's just too early you haveanother 10 years we got to make
sure that they're consciousbeings and they're consenting.
Otherwise it's just inhumane.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Imagine the PETA rally for that one.
Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
Yeah, fish are fish though.

Speaker 2 (48:56):
Fish blood Like no fish has like personality.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Yeah, that's a real thing I'm going to.
Actually, I got to find hername again for research purposes
.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
And you know, while you find that I should let the
people know that if you, if youlive in nebraska, you cannot get
married if either partner has asexually transmitted disease
really oh, say that one moretime if in nebraska.
If either partner has a sexualsexually transmitted disease,
you cannot legally get marriedwhoa so you're dead in the water

(49:27):
, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Well, how would they?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
I guess it would be public record right, and it's
like do they take something thatyou can cure with antibiotics?
If it goes away, can you stillget married?

Speaker 3 (49:37):
I would assume they mean the serious ones, right,
like syphilis, herpes, aids,aids, hiv.
Okay, so this is from August19th of last year.
A woman who was allegedlyfilmed performing a sex act with
a live brown trout on boatfaces court.
Catherine June Lee.
She was 58 years old, from theHobart suburb of Howden, faces

(50:02):
three charges in relation tobestiality material allegedly
producing or produced betweenFebruary 22 and January 23.
Throw it on the screen Livetrout.
That is very strange.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
It's like what?
Why would that idea come tomind?
You know like there's a lot oflike dude.
When we had those OnlyFansgirls on and we learned about
breeding kinks, I'd never evenheard of that, were you like?
There's certain dildos?
Yeah, crazy shit.
If you're interested, look itup.
Breeding is insane, but it'slike what the fuck?

(50:38):
A live fish?
That's insane.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
There's a niche for everything dude.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
Do you think that bestiality in terms of fish love
is more acceptable than someonewho is like super obsessed with
feet, like licking feet?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
Licking feet like sucking on toes.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
You're talking about crossing a species barrier.
No, I'm saying like a man and awoman.
But the guy can only get off ifhe's sucking toes.
And then also this woman whowants to have sexual relations
with fish.
What do you think is moreacceptable?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I think it's apple oranges, bro.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Yeah, I mean, that is so blatantly obvious.
What the fuck are you askinghere, dude?
I'm saying which one do youthink?
I think a person that suckstoes is a weird freak.
Okay, Fucking feet?
Freak me the fuck out.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
That's the last kink I would ever have.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
But it's acceptable, whatever, if that's what they
want to do, if the woman's okay,with it, fine.
There is never a lane where youcan fuck a fish, unless they're
dead.
Then it's cool.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
I would never personally do it.
That's where you draw the line.
I would say the second that AIfigures out how to communicate
with fish and they can consent,I think the water's open.
No pun intended.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
If they can consent, fair game Fine.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
I'll agree with that.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, then they could make the first move too.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
They could swim with you.
Did you see what the fish waswearing, though?
Did you see what they had on?

Speaker 1 (51:58):
What's that shit Elon's putting in people's
brains?

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Neuralink Dude.
What if that gets?

Speaker 1 (52:05):
You can just be swimming and they come Pop that
in a fish's brain idea you getcat call you get fish, called
dude nice boat uh, yeah, thoseare the days you know.

Speaker 3 (52:17):
All of a sudden it's like damn, I don't know why sam
is so big into fishing now.
I just gotta go.
I just gotta go.
I told you I'm not doinganything friday night.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I gotta go on my boat , go to lake of woods again, get
the best snorkel gear possible.
Just let it hang dude.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
All of a sudden, Shields profits shoot through
the roof because they're sellingscuba gear, snorkels and
goggles like crazy.
But Kagama Lake is full ofpeople on the weekdays now.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
There's about four times as many city people here.
Now you know.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
I actually I was just watching a documentary on uh,
oh, my god, dude, I did this ona different episode.
Jesus christ, the show wherethey bring freaks on and make
fun of them.
The isn't like the mart, themaury show or what is it it's.
It's where people, there's acrowd, they come on on.
They tell their weird story andnormally it's like this lady

(53:13):
had a baby.
Jerry Springer, jerry Springershow baby.
That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
Dude, but that's the format for so many shows, you
know.
Like Dr Phil arguably could beone of those.
You know, so, jerry.

Speaker 1 (53:23):
Springer had on a guy that was married to a mini
horse and it makes you thinklike how can you be married?

Speaker 3 (53:33):
I thought that was illegal.
I don't know, dude, it was asexual partner.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
What do you?
What I don't?
Yeah, isn't that the likeliterally definition of like the
illegal one dude, I'm tellingyou right now the man was in a
sexual relationship with hishorse why a mini horse?

Speaker 2 (53:49):
that's just kind of more fucked up.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
He loved it was his baby.
Yeah, it'd be way cooler if itwas a regular horse.
Yeah, now it's kind ofpredatory, but it's more you
wonder, dude, what if they wereconnecting?

Speaker 1 (53:59):
what if he's autistic ?
Oh shit dude, he was probablytapped in and he actually then
he tapped in and everyone justmade fun of him, made him think
he was this weird horse fucker.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
But actually they had a true loving relationship I
don't know if I can get behindit something to something to sit
on maybe sleep on it.
You never know, dude yeah, Ithink that's where I draw the
line.
The horse thing's, weird fishthing maybe.
But what if taylor god forbidtaylor passes away?

Speaker 1 (54:31):
she's reincarnated in a turkey.

Speaker 3 (54:33):
As a mini horse.
Oh, a turkey.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
And you are able to speak to her and she's like this
is me, it's Taylor, I love you,Cody, but it's a turkey.

Speaker 3 (54:43):
Okay, if I'm going to take this literally, I'm going
to say I could accept her forbeing a turkey.
This goes back to the would youlove me if I was a worm thing?
Sure, you know but, uh, I wouldsay I would accept her and she
would definitely be a member ofthe family.
But no doubt I'm probablyremarrying a normal human like a
pet yeah.
But she's just gonna be like,oh, it's no big deal.

(55:05):
Like someone's gonna come overand be like oh, that's my
ex-wife.
Or my current wife, I guessWould it still be.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Can you divorce a turkey?

Speaker 1 (55:14):
If you were married, I think the divorce was
initiated with the death.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
The reincarnation is separate, okay, so she is my
ex-wife and my future wife isobviously going to think it's a
little weird.
But then when she comes to findout like, oh, this is kind of a
chill-ass turkey.
So she could tap in too, likewell, no, she couldn't tap in,
but he would let her in on it,okay, because hey, it's not
normal I know this is gonna seemreally fucking weird, but she

(55:40):
watched.
This is my ex-wife.
She has to the turkey.
She has to sit in the room withus.
She has to.
She has to sleep in the samebed.
It's no big deal, it's just aturkey.
Well, she'd be house trained,right.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I would assume you know if she's conscious, if
she's conscious enough toremember our relationship, she's
got to be at least pottytrained, right, yeah, because
she's still Taylor, she's got tobe potty trained.
I would hope I mean me, I would.
That's the point.
I would believe it if it's likebut I'm an idiot, that'd be
really weird.
Do turkeys molt?
I guess all birds molt right, Ithink they do.

Speaker 3 (56:07):
yeah, should they shoot randomly throughout the
year and just be shedding?

Speaker 1 (56:18):
shit all over the place?

Speaker 3 (56:18):
God, that'd be weird.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
You gotta sit the kids down when they get to a
certain age and be like boys.
I need to let you know thatthis is your mother.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Lincoln would be like damn.
I thought that was a chill-assturkey.
I always wondered why theturkey would fucking peck me
when I wasn't doing the dishes,Get mad at me when the room
wasn't clean.
I always wondered why theturkey would run in there.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
I just thought he was a fuck-ass motherfucker Just
thought the turkey liked theplace clean.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
I just thought it was weird that the turkey didn't
like certain small appliances onour countertops.
Yeah, it'd be like explainingto the kids like you know, when
mom's on her period, she's gonna, she's a little more testy, so
you know, whatever be like, heylisten, it's mom's that time of
the year she's molting again, sodon't fuck with her dude.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I remember learning what a period was and being like
holy shit, my mom has a period,like it all, like kind of like
that, like oh my god dude.
No wonder she's a cunt all thetime.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
Oh my god, you start just putting everything on that,
just kidding mommy, I love youjust one.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
I should say not all time, just one week out of the
month.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
Are you molting right now?
Is that why you're so mad?

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Dude.
Why can't it be once a year forthat dude?

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Yeah, that's a good point.
I think this goes back to wewere talking about birth control
and how that fucks with ladies'bodies.
It's like that thing.

Speaker 2 (57:51):
There's some birth controls where they don't get it
at all.
I still don't understand a lot.
A good chunk of it.

Speaker 3 (57:54):
Yeah, we're in over our head.
Let's go back to communicatingwith whales telepathically.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Yeah that I got a good grasp on we're way better
at that.

Speaker 3 (58:02):
I think yeah, oh shit .
Well, boys, what time is it Igot to get out of here?
We'll see, uh, we'll see younext week.
We've got a nice episode nextweek coming up with Reed and
T-Cab blue collar.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Happy hour.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
We got the plumbers coming in to show us their crack
.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Finally, we got to see who they eat.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
See you next week.
Do, do, do.
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